<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/procurementsoftware/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[The Procurement Software Podcast]]></title><podcast:guid>3d03900f-b7ad-5432-9b40-7fa33d943605</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 06:00:18 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Entrepreneurial Procurement LLC]]></copyright><managingEditor>James Meads</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Procurement software, or "Procuretech", is a game changer. A key enabler and driver of rapid change in the profession. Want to find out how to significantly improve your operational efficiency and enable more to be done with fewer resources?

This show is for Procurement, Purchasing, Supply Chain and Finance professionals, as well as C-Suite executives. We showcase all the best new software and bring you the latest trends and thought leadership from both myself and other industry leaders. We'll show you how technology can drive a competitive advantage. 

Show notes and further info available at:
https://procurementsoftware.site/podcast

Follow us on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/procsoft

Connect with me at:
https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/

Book an intro call here:
https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png</url><title>The Procurement Software Podcast</title><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>James Meads</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>James Meads</itunes:author><description>Procurement software, or &quot;Procuretech&quot;, is a game changer. A key enabler and driver of rapid change in the profession. Want to find out how to significantly improve your operational efficiency and enable more to be done with fewer resources?

This show is for Procurement, Purchasing, Supply Chain and Finance professionals, as well as C-Suite executives. We showcase all the best new software and bring you the latest trends and thought leadership from both myself and other industry leaders. We&apos;ll show you how technology can drive a competitive advantage. 

Show notes and further info available at:
https://procurementsoftware.site/podcast

Follow us on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/procsoft

Connect with me at:
https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/

Book an intro call here:
https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call</description><link>https://entproc.com/podcast</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[A podcast on procurement tech, for visionaries and change-makers]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Technology"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><podcast:location>Birmingham, UK</podcast:location><item><title>Why Predictive Intelligence beats Spend Analytics - Jeff Gerber from Suplari</title><itunes:title>Why Predictive Intelligence beats Spend Analytics - Jeff Gerber from Suplari</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads speaks with Jeff Gerber, CEO of Suplari, about the evolution from traditional spend analytics to AI-powered spend intelligence. The conversation explores how procurement teams can move beyond static dashboards and begin leveraging predictive insights and autonomous agents to drive better decision-making.</p><h2>Can AI-Powered Spend Intelligence Transform Procurement?</h2><p><br></p><p>Jeff shares the story behind Suplari’s journey—from startup to Microsoft acquisition and back to independence—highlighting how an AI-native foundation has enabled faster innovation. The discussion focuses on how modern platforms are shifting from reporting on past spend to actively identifying opportunities and recommending actions in real time.</p><p><br></p><p>A key theme is the growing role of AI agents in automating complex procurement tasks, from managing tail spend to improving data quality and accelerating category strategy development. The episode also tackles common challenges such as poor data and limited internal resources, showing how AI can unlock value even without perfect inputs.</p><p><br></p><p>There is also a strong emphasis on usability, with conversational interfaces and prompt libraries helping users engage with AI more effectively, regardless of technical expertise.</p><p><br></p><p>Key insights include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why spend intelligence must go beyond dashboards to drive action</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI agents can continuously monitor and optimise tail spend</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The reality of working with imperfect data, and how AI improves it</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How prompt-driven interfaces accelerate user adoption</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI enables faster, more effective category strategy development</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Whether you are exploring AI in procurement or looking to enhance existing analytics capabilities, this episode offers a practical view of what’s possible today, and what’s coming next.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:01] Introduction and Jeff Gerber’s journey.</p><p>[00:03:55] Building AI-native spend intelligence platforms.</p><p>[00:11:15] Competing with DIY analytics and legacy systems.</p><p>[00:15:48] Overcoming poor data quality challenges.</p><p>[00:22:02] Managing tail spend with AI agents.</p><p>[00:29:02] Prompt libraries and user adoption of AI.</p><p>[00:33:38] AI in category strategy development.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-gerber/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Gerber on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://suplari.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suplari</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads speaks with Jeff Gerber, CEO of Suplari, about the evolution from traditional spend analytics to AI-powered spend intelligence. The conversation explores how procurement teams can move beyond static dashboards and begin leveraging predictive insights and autonomous agents to drive better decision-making.</p><h2>Can AI-Powered Spend Intelligence Transform Procurement?</h2><p><br></p><p>Jeff shares the story behind Suplari’s journey—from startup to Microsoft acquisition and back to independence—highlighting how an AI-native foundation has enabled faster innovation. The discussion focuses on how modern platforms are shifting from reporting on past spend to actively identifying opportunities and recommending actions in real time.</p><p><br></p><p>A key theme is the growing role of AI agents in automating complex procurement tasks, from managing tail spend to improving data quality and accelerating category strategy development. The episode also tackles common challenges such as poor data and limited internal resources, showing how AI can unlock value even without perfect inputs.</p><p><br></p><p>There is also a strong emphasis on usability, with conversational interfaces and prompt libraries helping users engage with AI more effectively, regardless of technical expertise.</p><p><br></p><p>Key insights include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why spend intelligence must go beyond dashboards to drive action</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI agents can continuously monitor and optimise tail spend</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The reality of working with imperfect data, and how AI improves it</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How prompt-driven interfaces accelerate user adoption</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why AI enables faster, more effective category strategy development</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Whether you are exploring AI in procurement or looking to enhance existing analytics capabilities, this episode offers a practical view of what’s possible today, and what’s coming next.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:01] Introduction and Jeff Gerber’s journey.</p><p>[00:03:55] Building AI-native spend intelligence platforms.</p><p>[00:11:15] Competing with DIY analytics and legacy systems.</p><p>[00:15:48] Overcoming poor data quality challenges.</p><p>[00:22:02] Managing tail spend with AI agents.</p><p>[00:29:02] Prompt libraries and user adoption of AI.</p><p>[00:33:38] AI in category strategy development.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-gerber/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jeff Gerber on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://suplari.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suplari</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4ef2aea1-2798-4984-8abc-baee769f3978</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4ef2aea1-2798-4984-8abc-baee769f3978.mp3" length="37739179" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Can Free Software Outperform Existing Tools? - Tom Ruello from SpendHound</title><itunes:title>Can Free Software Outperform Existing Tools? - Tom Ruello from SpendHound</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads explores the rise of free B2B procurement software and what it really means for buyers. Joined by Tom Ruello, VP of Sales at SpendHound, the conversation unpacks how removing the price barrier can accelerate adoption—without compromising value.</p><h2><strong>Can Free SaaS Management Software Beat Existing Tools?</strong></h2><p><br></p><p>Tom explains how SpendHound’s model works: offering a genuinely free SaaS management and benchmarking platform, monetised through aggregated, de-identified market data. The discussion tackles common procurement concerns—data privacy, commercial viability, and long-term product development—while highlighting the importance of transparency and a sustainable business model.</p><p><br></p><p>Key insights include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why free tools can outperform paid alternatives in mid-market and enterprise environments</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The pros and cons of data-driven monetisation models</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How benchmarking and AI-driven insights are transforming software renewals</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What procurement teams should ask vendors before committing</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why time savings can be just as valuable as cost savings</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Whether you’re budget-constrained or simply exploring smarter ways to manage SaaS spend, this episode provides a balanced view of risk, reward and opportunity.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:01] Introduction to free B2B procurement software.</p><p>[00:03:09] The origin of SpendHound’s free model.</p><p>[00:08:08] Monetisation through aggregated data.</p><p>[00:17:41] Mid-market vs enterprise adoption.</p><p>[00:20:05] AI-driven contract analysis and benchmarking.</p><p>[00:29:18] How to get started and implementation timeline.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-ruello-354b9b78/?isSelfProfile=false" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Ruello on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="https://www.spendhound.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SpendHound</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads explores the rise of free B2B procurement software and what it really means for buyers. Joined by Tom Ruello, VP of Sales at SpendHound, the conversation unpacks how removing the price barrier can accelerate adoption—without compromising value.</p><h2><strong>Can Free SaaS Management Software Beat Existing Tools?</strong></h2><p><br></p><p>Tom explains how SpendHound’s model works: offering a genuinely free SaaS management and benchmarking platform, monetised through aggregated, de-identified market data. The discussion tackles common procurement concerns—data privacy, commercial viability, and long-term product development—while highlighting the importance of transparency and a sustainable business model.</p><p><br></p><p>Key insights include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why free tools can outperform paid alternatives in mid-market and enterprise environments</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The pros and cons of data-driven monetisation models</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How benchmarking and AI-driven insights are transforming software renewals</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>What procurement teams should ask vendors before committing</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why time savings can be just as valuable as cost savings</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Whether you’re budget-constrained or simply exploring smarter ways to manage SaaS spend, this episode provides a balanced view of risk, reward and opportunity.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:01] Introduction to free B2B procurement software.</p><p>[00:03:09] The origin of SpendHound’s free model.</p><p>[00:08:08] Monetisation through aggregated data.</p><p>[00:17:41] Mid-market vs enterprise adoption.</p><p>[00:20:05] AI-driven contract analysis and benchmarking.</p><p>[00:29:18] How to get started and implementation timeline.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-ruello-354b9b78/?isSelfProfile=false" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tom Ruello on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="https://www.spendhound.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SpendHound</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3627c898-b5d4-470f-a9af-c086fffe394e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3627c898-b5d4-470f-a9af-c086fffe394e.mp3" length="33399048" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Pulse of the Mid-Market - Mike Cargiulo from MJC Sourcing</title><itunes:title>The Pulse of the Mid-Market - Mike Cargiulo from MJC Sourcing</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Mike Cargiulo, founder of MJC Sourcing, for a conversation that challenges the tech-first narrative in procurement transformation.</p><p>Mike shares how MJC Sourcing supports mid-market organisations with hands-on, execution-focused procurement expertise. Rather than leading with slide decks, Mike and his team roll up their sleeves — delivering rapid results in complex sourcing, stakeholder engagement, and supplier negotiations. With a focus on flexible, expert resourcing, his firm fills capability gaps where internal headcount is stretched thin.</p><p><br></p><h2>Can Lean Procurement Teams Really Outperform the Big Players?</h2><p><br></p><p>We explore how smaller, agile procurement teams — armed with the right mindset, strong processes, and modern tools — can deliver more value per head than traditional enterprise setups. Mike also shares why he believes process and people come before tech, and how AI is supercharging productivity without replacing human judgement.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to build procurement credibility in organisations with limited influence</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why bringing in A-players beats training average hires</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The hidden risk of relying solely on internal category experts</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI is helping sourcing professionals manage increasing workloads</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why agility and flexible talent are essential to future-proofing procurement</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A compelling conversation on transforming procurement through smart resourcing, sharp execution, and a realistic view of technology’s role.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:09] Why MJC Sourcing was founded.</p><p>[00:03:05] Execution vs presentations in consulting.</p><p>[00:04:22] On-demand procurement expertise.</p><p>[00:07:36] Upskilling internal teams through collaboration.</p><p>[00:10:23] People, process and tech – in that order.</p><p>[00:13:45] Productivity gains with AI in procurement.</p><p>[00:16:10] Value creation beyond savings.</p><p>[00:21:02] Driving procurement influence in tough cultures.</p><p>[00:25:15] Data’s role in enabling procurement.</p><p>[00:29:21] Can small teams outperform enterprise procurement?</p><p>[00:30:30] What’s next for MJC Sourcing.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikecargiulo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Cargiulo on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://www.mjcsourcing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MJC Sourcing</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Mike Cargiulo, founder of MJC Sourcing, for a conversation that challenges the tech-first narrative in procurement transformation.</p><p>Mike shares how MJC Sourcing supports mid-market organisations with hands-on, execution-focused procurement expertise. Rather than leading with slide decks, Mike and his team roll up their sleeves — delivering rapid results in complex sourcing, stakeholder engagement, and supplier negotiations. With a focus on flexible, expert resourcing, his firm fills capability gaps where internal headcount is stretched thin.</p><p><br></p><h2>Can Lean Procurement Teams Really Outperform the Big Players?</h2><p><br></p><p>We explore how smaller, agile procurement teams — armed with the right mindset, strong processes, and modern tools — can deliver more value per head than traditional enterprise setups. Mike also shares why he believes process and people come before tech, and how AI is supercharging productivity without replacing human judgement.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to build procurement credibility in organisations with limited influence</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why bringing in A-players beats training average hires</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The hidden risk of relying solely on internal category experts</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How AI is helping sourcing professionals manage increasing workloads</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why agility and flexible talent are essential to future-proofing procurement</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A compelling conversation on transforming procurement through smart resourcing, sharp execution, and a realistic view of technology’s role.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:09] Why MJC Sourcing was founded.</p><p>[00:03:05] Execution vs presentations in consulting.</p><p>[00:04:22] On-demand procurement expertise.</p><p>[00:07:36] Upskilling internal teams through collaboration.</p><p>[00:10:23] People, process and tech – in that order.</p><p>[00:13:45] Productivity gains with AI in procurement.</p><p>[00:16:10] Value creation beyond savings.</p><p>[00:21:02] Driving procurement influence in tough cultures.</p><p>[00:25:15] Data’s role in enabling procurement.</p><p>[00:29:21] Can small teams outperform enterprise procurement?</p><p>[00:30:30] What’s next for MJC Sourcing.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikecargiulo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Cargiulo on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://www.mjcsourcing.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MJC Sourcing</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">40fec1a2-5598-46bd-8c28-5912c9ccb69d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/40fec1a2-5598-46bd-8c28-5912c9ccb69d.mp3" length="30968652" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI, People, Change, and Mindset - Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz from apadua</title><itunes:title>AI, People, Change, and Mindset - Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz from apadua</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz, co-founders of apadua, recorded live at their Indirect Procurement Days event near Frankfurt, Germany.</p><p>Drawing on their backgrounds as procurement practitioners and founders, Gregory and Markus share a grounded, thoughtful perspective on what AI really means for procurement. Rather than hype or job-replacement narratives, the discussion focuses on AI as an enabler that amplifies human capability, improves decision-making, and removes low-value administrative work.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>AI, People, Mindset, and Skills: Why they all matter</strong></h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation explores apadua’s journey from a conventional sourcing platform to rebuilding an AI-native product from scratch, driven by deep user research rather than surface-level feature injection. James and the apadua team unpack why “human in the loop” remains critical, how procurement roles may shift towards more generalist and strategic profiles, and why differentiation in an AI-first world will come from people, not models.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to tell real AI capability from marketing noise</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why procurement adoption of AI will be gradual, not sudden</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The future size and shape of procurement teams</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why apadua pursued ISO 27001 and what buyers should ask about cybersecurity</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A reflective, pragmatic conversation on the future of procurement in an AI-enabled world.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00] Podcast introduction and episode setup</p><p>[01:05] Final episode of 2025 and IPD event context</p><p>[02:45] Introduction to Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz from apadua</p><p>[03:20] Why AI creates confusion in procurement teams</p><p>[04:25] How to tell real AI capability from marketing hype</p><p>[05:45] AI as an enabler, human-in-the-loop vs automation</p><p>[12:15] Rebuilding apadua as an AI-native procurement platform</p><p>[15:50] How AI will reshape procurement roles and skill sets</p><p>[27:40] The future size and structure of procurement teams</p><p>[33:00] Cybersecurity, ISO 27001, and what buyers should ask</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryvider/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gregory Vider on LinkedIn</a></u> and <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markussinz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Markus Sinz on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://www.apadua.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">apadua</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz, co-founders of apadua, recorded live at their Indirect Procurement Days event near Frankfurt, Germany.</p><p>Drawing on their backgrounds as procurement practitioners and founders, Gregory and Markus share a grounded, thoughtful perspective on what AI really means for procurement. Rather than hype or job-replacement narratives, the discussion focuses on AI as an enabler that amplifies human capability, improves decision-making, and removes low-value administrative work.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>AI, People, Mindset, and Skills: Why they all matter</strong></h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation explores apadua’s journey from a conventional sourcing platform to rebuilding an AI-native product from scratch, driven by deep user research rather than surface-level feature injection. James and the apadua team unpack why “human in the loop” remains critical, how procurement roles may shift towards more generalist and strategic profiles, and why differentiation in an AI-first world will come from people, not models.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>How to tell real AI capability from marketing noise</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why procurement adoption of AI will be gradual, not sudden</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>The future size and shape of procurement teams</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Why apadua pursued ISO 27001 and what buyers should ask about cybersecurity</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A reflective, pragmatic conversation on the future of procurement in an AI-enabled world.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00] Podcast introduction and episode setup</p><p>[01:05] Final episode of 2025 and IPD event context</p><p>[02:45] Introduction to Gregory Vider and Markus Sinz from apadua</p><p>[03:20] Why AI creates confusion in procurement teams</p><p>[04:25] How to tell real AI capability from marketing hype</p><p>[05:45] AI as an enabler, human-in-the-loop vs automation</p><p>[12:15] Rebuilding apadua as an AI-native procurement platform</p><p>[15:50] How AI will reshape procurement roles and skill sets</p><p>[27:40] The future size and structure of procurement teams</p><p>[33:00] Cybersecurity, ISO 27001, and what buyers should ask</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3><p><br></p><ol><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Connect with <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryvider/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gregory Vider on LinkedIn</a></u> and <u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markussinz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Markus Sinz on LinkedIn</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Check out <u><a href="http://www.apadua.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">apadua</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our <u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Download our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Sign up for the<strong> </strong><u><a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></u></li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a></u> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li data-list="ordered"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></u></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">baebf0ec-3dde-4b8b-b211-d0df60eb31a4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/baebf0ec-3dde-4b8b-b211-d0df60eb31a4.mp3" length="40793193" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Revolutionising Supplier Performance Data - Matthew Spencer from FlockScore</title><itunes:title>Revolutionising Supplier Performance Data - Matthew Spencer from FlockScore</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Matthew Spencer, procurement veteran and founder of FlockScore, a newly launched startup rethinking how supplier performance is captured and shared across industrial supply chains.</p><p>Matthew brings a rare perspective as a procurement practitioner-turned-founder, having led SRM and sustainability at Bekaert Group before identifying a critical market gap: supplier scorecards were siloed, static, and lacked ecosystem-level insight. FlockScore aims to change that, offering a collaborative, AI-powered model for tracking supplier performance.</p><h2>Can we really crowdsource Supplier Performance Data?</h2><p>We unpack how FlockScore’s “open contribute-to-access” model lets procurement teams upload anonymised supplier performance data in exchange for aggregated, comparative insights. Matthew explains how AI agents enrich these insights by scanning public sources for issues like recalls, shutdowns, or delivery disruptions, without exposing contributor identity.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why supplier performance often takes a backseat to compliance and innovation</li><li>The limits of traditional scorecards and why category-specific metrics matter</li><li>How FlockScore enhances, not replaces existing SRM and S2P systems</li><li>Why soft supplier feedback from stakeholders should be part of every scorecard</li><li>What makes FlockScore different from review platforms and peer benchmarking</li><li>A fascinating deep dive into how collective intelligence and AI are reshaping supplier evaluation, built for procurement, by procurement.</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01] Intro to Matthew Spencer, FlockScore</p><p>[01:14] Matthew’s background</p><p>[02:18] FlockScore analogy</p><p>[03:44] The “aha” moment and data gap externally</p><p>[06:02] Why supplier performance management is underrated today</p><p>[11:27] Engaging stakeholders effectively</p><p>[13:04] Open contribute-to-access model and credits</p><p>[18:50] FlockScore’s AI and difference to traditional tools offerings</p><p>[23:37] Cultural and category differences, flexible taxonomy and future vision for procurement</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjspencer1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew Spencer on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://flockscore.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FlockScore</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Matthew Spencer, procurement veteran and founder of FlockScore, a newly launched startup rethinking how supplier performance is captured and shared across industrial supply chains.</p><p>Matthew brings a rare perspective as a procurement practitioner-turned-founder, having led SRM and sustainability at Bekaert Group before identifying a critical market gap: supplier scorecards were siloed, static, and lacked ecosystem-level insight. FlockScore aims to change that, offering a collaborative, AI-powered model for tracking supplier performance.</p><h2>Can we really crowdsource Supplier Performance Data?</h2><p>We unpack how FlockScore’s “open contribute-to-access” model lets procurement teams upload anonymised supplier performance data in exchange for aggregated, comparative insights. Matthew explains how AI agents enrich these insights by scanning public sources for issues like recalls, shutdowns, or delivery disruptions, without exposing contributor identity.</p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why supplier performance often takes a backseat to compliance and innovation</li><li>The limits of traditional scorecards and why category-specific metrics matter</li><li>How FlockScore enhances, not replaces existing SRM and S2P systems</li><li>Why soft supplier feedback from stakeholders should be part of every scorecard</li><li>What makes FlockScore different from review platforms and peer benchmarking</li><li>A fascinating deep dive into how collective intelligence and AI are reshaping supplier evaluation, built for procurement, by procurement.</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01] Intro to Matthew Spencer, FlockScore</p><p>[01:14] Matthew’s background</p><p>[02:18] FlockScore analogy</p><p>[03:44] The “aha” moment and data gap externally</p><p>[06:02] Why supplier performance management is underrated today</p><p>[11:27] Engaging stakeholders effectively</p><p>[13:04] Open contribute-to-access model and credits</p><p>[18:50] FlockScore’s AI and difference to traditional tools offerings</p><p>[23:37] Cultural and category differences, flexible taxonomy and future vision for procurement</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjspencer1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matthew Spencer on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://flockscore.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FlockScore</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://resources.entproc.com/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://procurementsoftware.entproc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://entproc.com/newsletter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Entproc Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30minscall?month=2025-11" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aeafabcf-456e-4fed-964a-41d27dae8b79</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/aeafabcf-456e-4fed-964a-41d27dae8b79.mp3" length="35364346" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Is Procuretech Overpriced and Overhyped? - Gaurav Sharma from Supernegotiate</title><itunes:title>Is Procuretech Overpriced and Overhyped? - Gaurav Sharma from Supernegotiate</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Gaurav Sharma, Head of Procurement Centre of Excellence at MTN, with a background that uniquely combines procurement expertise and data science.</p><p>We explore how Gaurav’s journey from category manager to leading digital transformation has shaped his view on procurement technology, user adoption, and the need for more practical, cost-effective solutions. Alongside his corporate role, he introduces his side project, SuperNegotiate, designed to simplify sourcing processes and enable tool-less digitisation for procurement newcomers.</p><h2>Is Procuretech Overpriced and Overhyped?</h2><p>Gaurav shares why many e-sourcing tools fall short of addressing real category manager needs, focusing instead on vanity features. He explains how AI and machine learning are already transforming sourcing, paving the way for outcome-based pricing models and moving procurement away from traditional RFPs.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why data science skills are becoming essential in procurement</li><li>How current tools fail to deliver true user-centric functionality</li><li>The growing demand for tech-savvy procurement professionals</li><li>Why outcome-based pricing could reshape procurement tech contracts</li><li>How Super Negotiate offers a lightweight entry point for digital procurement</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for anyone interested in the next generation of procurement technology and the evolving skill sets that will define future teams.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[[00:00] Introduction to Gaurav Sharma and His Unique Skills</p><p>[01:14] Journey from procurement to data science</p><p>[04:34] The future of procurement skills and technology</p><p>[08:55] Critiquing procurement tech and vanity features</p><p>[13:56] In-house solutions vs. traditional procurement tools</p><p>[21:11] Super Negotiate: a new approach to sourcing</p><p>[30:11] The future roles of procurement teams</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/supernegotiate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaurav Sharma on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.supernegotiate.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supernegotiate</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Gaurav Sharma, Head of Procurement Centre of Excellence at MTN, with a background that uniquely combines procurement expertise and data science.</p><p>We explore how Gaurav’s journey from category manager to leading digital transformation has shaped his view on procurement technology, user adoption, and the need for more practical, cost-effective solutions. Alongside his corporate role, he introduces his side project, SuperNegotiate, designed to simplify sourcing processes and enable tool-less digitisation for procurement newcomers.</p><h2>Is Procuretech Overpriced and Overhyped?</h2><p>Gaurav shares why many e-sourcing tools fall short of addressing real category manager needs, focusing instead on vanity features. He explains how AI and machine learning are already transforming sourcing, paving the way for outcome-based pricing models and moving procurement away from traditional RFPs.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why data science skills are becoming essential in procurement</li><li>How current tools fail to deliver true user-centric functionality</li><li>The growing demand for tech-savvy procurement professionals</li><li>Why outcome-based pricing could reshape procurement tech contracts</li><li>How Super Negotiate offers a lightweight entry point for digital procurement</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for anyone interested in the next generation of procurement technology and the evolving skill sets that will define future teams.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[[00:00] Introduction to Gaurav Sharma and His Unique Skills</p><p>[01:14] Journey from procurement to data science</p><p>[04:34] The future of procurement skills and technology</p><p>[08:55] Critiquing procurement tech and vanity features</p><p>[13:56] In-house solutions vs. traditional procurement tools</p><p>[21:11] Super Negotiate: a new approach to sourcing</p><p>[30:11] The future roles of procurement teams</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/supernegotiate/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gaurav Sharma on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.supernegotiate.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Supernegotiate</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1758bab9-41f5-41c9-9fe5-eed70bf8cb84</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1758bab9-41f5-41c9-9fe5-eed70bf8cb84.mp3" length="37583272" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Customising Existing Tech and Budget Triage - Oscar Fernandez from ProCREWment</title><itunes:title>Customising Existing Tech and Budget Triage - Oscar Fernandez from ProCREWment</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Oscar Fernandez, founder of ProCREWment and former Principal Procurement at mobility-as-a-service (MaaS) company FreeNow. </p><p>We dive into a compelling case study on building an effective procurement process using existing tools, without splurging on expensive enterprise suites.</p><p><br></p><p>Oscar shares how his small procurement team transformed chaos into clarity by leveraging Jira, Workato, and Yooz to automate intake-to-PO, approvals, and even contract renewals. This episode is a blueprint for procurement leaders operating in fast-growth environments with tight budgets and limited resources.</p><p><br></p><h2>Improvising and Triaging your Tech Stack for Success</h2><p><br></p><p>You’ll hear how Oscar turned Jira—typically used for IT support—into a fully functional procurement intake and requisition system, integrated with finance and legal workflows. Plus, why choosing a standalone e-sourcing tool like DeepStream delivered faster ROI than investing in an all-in-one platform.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why Jira became the backbone of their intake and approval flows</li><li>Using Workato to link tools and automate tasks across systems</li><li>How they structured parallel approvals to speed up decision-making</li><li>Automating contract renewals and spend visibility with Atlassian modules</li><li>Why DeepStream was the right sourcing tool for their needs</li><li>Tips for prioritising digitisation based on procurement maturity</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement professionals seeking practical, flexible solutions to scale procurement operations.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:46] Meet Oscar Fernandez, his procurement journey</p><p>[03:45] Starting with manual-heavy processes at FreeNow</p><p>[05:43] Early chaos: approvals and email overload</p><p>[07:26] Spotting inefficiencies and team scaling challenges</p><p>[10:12] Cost barriers to adopting full suites</p><p>[13:18] Jira as a no-code intake and requisition tool</p><p>[17:47] Automating approvals and connecting tools with Workato</p><p>[23:45] Choosing e-sourcing over analytics or SRM</p><p>[27:16] Why DeepStream fit their sourcing needs</p><p>[32:09] Advice for procurement leads with limited budget</p><p>[33:22] About ProCREWment—Oscar’s consultancy initiative</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oscarfdzp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oscar Fernández on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://procrewment.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProCREWment</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads is joined by Oscar Fernandez, founder of ProCREWment and former Principal Procurement at mobility-as-a-service (MaaS) company FreeNow. </p><p>We dive into a compelling case study on building an effective procurement process using existing tools, without splurging on expensive enterprise suites.</p><p><br></p><p>Oscar shares how his small procurement team transformed chaos into clarity by leveraging Jira, Workato, and Yooz to automate intake-to-PO, approvals, and even contract renewals. This episode is a blueprint for procurement leaders operating in fast-growth environments with tight budgets and limited resources.</p><p><br></p><h2>Improvising and Triaging your Tech Stack for Success</h2><p><br></p><p>You’ll hear how Oscar turned Jira—typically used for IT support—into a fully functional procurement intake and requisition system, integrated with finance and legal workflows. Plus, why choosing a standalone e-sourcing tool like DeepStream delivered faster ROI than investing in an all-in-one platform.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why Jira became the backbone of their intake and approval flows</li><li>Using Workato to link tools and automate tasks across systems</li><li>How they structured parallel approvals to speed up decision-making</li><li>Automating contract renewals and spend visibility with Atlassian modules</li><li>Why DeepStream was the right sourcing tool for their needs</li><li>Tips for prioritising digitisation based on procurement maturity</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement professionals seeking practical, flexible solutions to scale procurement operations.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:46] Meet Oscar Fernandez, his procurement journey</p><p>[03:45] Starting with manual-heavy processes at FreeNow</p><p>[05:43] Early chaos: approvals and email overload</p><p>[07:26] Spotting inefficiencies and team scaling challenges</p><p>[10:12] Cost barriers to adopting full suites</p><p>[13:18] Jira as a no-code intake and requisition tool</p><p>[17:47] Automating approvals and connecting tools with Workato</p><p>[23:45] Choosing e-sourcing over analytics or SRM</p><p>[27:16] Why DeepStream fit their sourcing needs</p><p>[32:09] Advice for procurement leads with limited budget</p><p>[33:22] About ProCREWment—Oscar’s consultancy initiative</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oscarfdzp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oscar Fernández on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://procrewment.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProCREWment</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c9857666-a8f8-4f2b-8383-f4369daaed5f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c9857666-a8f8-4f2b-8383-f4369daaed5f.mp3" length="31260902" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Running Procurement in Airtable - Brajan Gatys from Personio</title><itunes:title>Running Procurement in Airtable - Brajan Gatys from Personio</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Brajan Gatys, Procurement Operations Lead at Personio, to explore how lean procurement teams can build powerful systems without specialist procurement tech.</p><p>Recorded after James and Brajan met in person at the Wolf Pack Summit in New York, this episode is a masterclass in how low-code and no-code platforms can transform procurement operations at scale.</p><p><br></p><p>Brajan walks us through how Personio uses tools like Airtable, Make, and Jira to manage intake, automate purchasing workflows, and even parse contracts with LLMs, all without being locked into a single vendor. Instead of buying off-the-shelf procurement suites, his team has built over 250 automations tailored to their exact needs.</p><p><br></p><h2>Running Procurement in Airtable, Jira, and Make</h2><p><br></p><p>You’ll learn why agility, vendor flexibility, and team-wide tech fluency have been core to Personio’s success, and how other teams can adopt a similar mindset.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Avoiding traditional P2P and orchestration suites in favour of low-code tools</li><li>Using Airtable as a central procurement database and workflow engine</li><li>How they integrate with Ironclad (CLM) and Workday (ERP system)</li><li>Automating contract parsing and clause extraction with AI</li><li>Building internal SRM scoring models based on vendor risk and importance</li><li>Creating a culture that blends procurement expertise with tech-savviness</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for tech-savvy procurement teams looking to do more with less.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:05] Meet Brajan Gatys, Personio</p><p>[03:30] Why they chose low-code over SaaS</p><p>[07:40] Airtable as the procurement engine</p><p>[10:20] Automating POs and vendor onboarding</p><p>[14:00] Sourcing and async vendor collaboration</p><p>[18:00] Contracts, Ironclad, and clause extraction</p><p>[22:30] SRM scoring and supplier risk</p><p>[27:00] Culture, mindset, and learning low-code</p><p>[32:00] Time-saving tips and breaking the “no capacity” cycle</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brajangatys/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brajan Gatys on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.personio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Personio</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads welcomes Brajan Gatys, Procurement Operations Lead at Personio, to explore how lean procurement teams can build powerful systems without specialist procurement tech.</p><p>Recorded after James and Brajan met in person at the Wolf Pack Summit in New York, this episode is a masterclass in how low-code and no-code platforms can transform procurement operations at scale.</p><p><br></p><p>Brajan walks us through how Personio uses tools like Airtable, Make, and Jira to manage intake, automate purchasing workflows, and even parse contracts with LLMs, all without being locked into a single vendor. Instead of buying off-the-shelf procurement suites, his team has built over 250 automations tailored to their exact needs.</p><p><br></p><h2>Running Procurement in Airtable, Jira, and Make</h2><p><br></p><p>You’ll learn why agility, vendor flexibility, and team-wide tech fluency have been core to Personio’s success, and how other teams can adopt a similar mindset.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Avoiding traditional P2P and orchestration suites in favour of low-code tools</li><li>Using Airtable as a central procurement database and workflow engine</li><li>How they integrate with Ironclad (CLM) and Workday (ERP system)</li><li>Automating contract parsing and clause extraction with AI</li><li>Building internal SRM scoring models based on vendor risk and importance</li><li>Creating a culture that blends procurement expertise with tech-savviness</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for tech-savvy procurement teams looking to do more with less.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:05] Meet Brajan Gatys, Personio</p><p>[03:30] Why they chose low-code over SaaS</p><p>[07:40] Airtable as the procurement engine</p><p>[10:20] Automating POs and vendor onboarding</p><p>[14:00] Sourcing and async vendor collaboration</p><p>[18:00] Contracts, Ironclad, and clause extraction</p><p>[22:30] SRM scoring and supplier risk</p><p>[27:00] Culture, mindset, and learning low-code</p><p>[32:00] Time-saving tips and breaking the “no capacity” cycle</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p><br></p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brajangatys/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brajan Gatys on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.personio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Personio</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f321d71-ef72-4c9d-92fc-bf6650253897</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4f321d71-ef72-4c9d-92fc-bf6650253897.mp3" length="37061252" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Sourcing Complex Stuff with Less Price Focus - Harry Wilde from Cotiss</title><itunes:title>Sourcing Complex Stuff with Less Price Focus - Harry Wilde from Cotiss</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads sits down in person with Harry Wilde, co-founder of Cotiss, a source-to-contract platform purpose-built for regulated industries. </p><p>Recorded live at the Wolfpack Summit in New York, it’s a rare face-to-face conversation packed with insight, humour, and honest reflections on building procurement tech for complex sourcing needs.</p><p><br></p><p>They unpack how Cotiss helps procurement teams running high-stakes, non-price-driven RFPs—think airports buying hovercrafts or telcos procuring fibre optic cable, by simplifying evaluation, driving internal engagement, and replacing spreadsheets with intuitive tools.</p><p><br></p><h2>Sourcing Complex Stuff with Less Price Focus</h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation also explores how Harry and his co-founders spotted a global gap in the market for mid-sized, heavily regulated organisations still stuck with Excel and email, and decided to build a tool that balances ease of use with just enough customisation.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why big, “gnarly” RFPs demand more than just basic e-sourcing tools</li><li>What good procurement planning should look like</li><li>How AI should be applied to solve real problems—not just add hype</li><li>Cotiss’s US go-to-market strategy and learnings from New Zealand</li><li>Why fast implementation cycles matter for small procurement teams</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement leaders, founders, and anyone navigating sourcing in complex, regulated environments.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:20] Guest introduction: Harry Wilde</p><p>[04:30] Sourcing in regulated industries</p><p>[07:10] What makes Cotiss different</p><p>[10:20] Founding story &amp; background</p><p>[14:30] Expanding into the US market</p><p>[18:10] Best practice sourcing process</p><p>[22:00] Evaluation tools &amp; impact</p><p>[26:10] AI use in sourcing tools</p><p>[30:00] Implementation &amp; where to learn more</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-wilde/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry Wilde on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.cotiss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">COTISS</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, James Meads sits down in person with Harry Wilde, co-founder of Cotiss, a source-to-contract platform purpose-built for regulated industries. </p><p>Recorded live at the Wolfpack Summit in New York, it’s a rare face-to-face conversation packed with insight, humour, and honest reflections on building procurement tech for complex sourcing needs.</p><p><br></p><p>They unpack how Cotiss helps procurement teams running high-stakes, non-price-driven RFPs—think airports buying hovercrafts or telcos procuring fibre optic cable, by simplifying evaluation, driving internal engagement, and replacing spreadsheets with intuitive tools.</p><p><br></p><h2>Sourcing Complex Stuff with Less Price Focus</h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation also explores how Harry and his co-founders spotted a global gap in the market for mid-sized, heavily regulated organisations still stuck with Excel and email, and decided to build a tool that balances ease of use with just enough customisation.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why big, “gnarly” RFPs demand more than just basic e-sourcing tools</li><li>What good procurement planning should look like</li><li>How AI should be applied to solve real problems—not just add hype</li><li>Cotiss’s US go-to-market strategy and learnings from New Zealand</li><li>Why fast implementation cycles matter for small procurement teams</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement leaders, founders, and anyone navigating sourcing in complex, regulated environments.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[01:20] Guest introduction: Harry Wilde</p><p>[04:30] Sourcing in regulated industries</p><p>[07:10] What makes Cotiss different</p><p>[10:20] Founding story &amp; background</p><p>[14:30] Expanding into the US market</p><p>[18:10] Best practice sourcing process</p><p>[22:00] Evaluation tools &amp; impact</p><p>[26:10] AI use in sourcing tools</p><p>[30:00] Implementation &amp; where to learn more</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-wilde/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harry Wilde on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.cotiss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">COTISS</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">34c44678-f536-44be-9f8e-faf650307e29</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/34c44678-f536-44be-9f8e-faf650307e29.mp3" length="35207176" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Postcards from Brazil - with Raphael Traticoski and Leo Cavalcanti</title><itunes:title>Postcards from Brazil - with Raphael Traticoski and Leo Cavalcanti</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, Raphael, co-founder and CEO of Growin.Co interviews your usual host, James Meads, alongside Linkana co-founder Leo Cavalcanti. It's a lively and forward-looking discussion about the next wave of digital transformation in procurement.</p><p>They explore how AI, agentic automation, and no-code tools are disrupting traditional approaches—especially for mid-market businesses looking to leapfrog outdated ERP systems and legacy S2P suites.</p><h2>Postcards from Brazil - Conversations on Procuretech</h2><p>The conversation dives into how AI is already being used in supplier onboarding, document validation, and spend analytics. James and Leo also reflect on whether SaaS UIs will soon be replaced by agent-driven interfaces—and the strategic decisions procurement tech founders must now make.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why mid-sized firms are well-placed to leapfrog legacy systems</li><li>The rise of no-code tools and what they mean for small teams</li><li>Moving from structured to unstructured data with AI</li><li>The challenge of understanding real customer problems</li><li>Insights into the emerging Latin American procurement tech scene</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement professionals, founders, and anyone curious about the future of digital procurement.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:35] Guest introductions: James Meads &amp; Leo Cavalcanti</p><p>[03:15] Why procurement needs better tech—and where mid-market firms fit in</p><p>[07:42] How AI is changing supplier onboarding and document validation</p><p>[11:20] The rise of no-code tools and what they mean for smaller businesses</p><p>[16:05] Is the SaaS UI dead? Enter: agentic automation</p><p>[20:51] Why defining the problem is more important than choosing the solution</p><p>[26:34] Common buyer mistakes when scoping procurement tech</p><p>[30:12] Challenges and opportunities in the LatAm procurement tech ecosystem</p><p>[34:45] Advice for founders building in procurement today</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphael-traticoski/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raphael Traticoski</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.growinco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Growin.Co</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leozaca/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leo Cavalcanti</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.linkana.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linkana</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, Raphael, co-founder and CEO of Growin.Co interviews your usual host, James Meads, alongside Linkana co-founder Leo Cavalcanti. It's a lively and forward-looking discussion about the next wave of digital transformation in procurement.</p><p>They explore how AI, agentic automation, and no-code tools are disrupting traditional approaches—especially for mid-market businesses looking to leapfrog outdated ERP systems and legacy S2P suites.</p><h2>Postcards from Brazil - Conversations on Procuretech</h2><p>The conversation dives into how AI is already being used in supplier onboarding, document validation, and spend analytics. James and Leo also reflect on whether SaaS UIs will soon be replaced by agent-driven interfaces—and the strategic decisions procurement tech founders must now make.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Why mid-sized firms are well-placed to leapfrog legacy systems</li><li>The rise of no-code tools and what they mean for small teams</li><li>Moving from structured to unstructured data with AI</li><li>The challenge of understanding real customer problems</li><li>Insights into the emerging Latin American procurement tech scene</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>A must-listen for procurement professionals, founders, and anyone curious about the future of digital procurement.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:35] Guest introductions: James Meads &amp; Leo Cavalcanti</p><p>[03:15] Why procurement needs better tech—and where mid-market firms fit in</p><p>[07:42] How AI is changing supplier onboarding and document validation</p><p>[11:20] The rise of no-code tools and what they mean for smaller businesses</p><p>[16:05] Is the SaaS UI dead? Enter: agentic automation</p><p>[20:51] Why defining the problem is more important than choosing the solution</p><p>[26:34] Common buyer mistakes when scoping procurement tech</p><p>[30:12] Challenges and opportunities in the LatAm procurement tech ecosystem</p><p>[34:45] Advice for founders building in procurement today</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphael-traticoski/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Raphael Traticoski</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.growinco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Growin.Co</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leozaca/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Leo Cavalcanti</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.linkana.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linkana</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5352801b-dac9-4c05-afc1-77641e00c5a8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/76c30185-ce7c-4746-8747-73213fe12a2e/Procuretech-ep-03-Postcards-from-Brazil-with-Raphael-Traticoski.mp3" length="33036299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Cybersecurity 101 - Jano Bermudes from CyXcel</title><itunes:title>Cybersecurity 101 - Jano Bermudes from CyXcel</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, host James discusses the critical topic of cybersecurity in procurement with expert Jano Bermudes from CyXcel.</p><p>They explore the importance of cybersecurity in vendor selection, the regulatory landscape, and the necessary precautions organisations must take to protect their data.</p><p><br></p><h2>Cybersecurity 101: what to consider when Buying Software</h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation covers security questions procurement professionals should ask when evaluating software vendors, the importance of security certifications like ISO 27001 and SOC 2, and how companies—big and small—can mitigate cyber risks in their supply chains.</p><p><br></p><p>Jano shares insights into regulatory requirements such as GDPR and DORA, the complexities of supplier compliance, and the critical contract clauses buyers should insist on to protect their businesses.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>How small businesses can enhance their cybersecurity approach</li><li>Common pitfalls in cloud software security assurances</li><li>Why due diligence and ongoing monitoring are essential</li><li>Negotiating limitation of liability clauses in contracts</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:48] Guest introduction: Jano Bermudes</p><p>[02:02] Key cybersecurity questions</p><p>[07:53] Important regulations &amp; compliance</p><p>[11:44] Cloud security misconceptions</p><p>[14:29] Security certifications explained</p><p>[19:25] Due diligence importance</p><p>[24:16] Essential contract clauses</p><p>[30:00] Negotiating liability limits</p><p>[34:56] Where to learn more</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jano-bermudes-cyxcel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jano Bermudes on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.cyxcel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CyXcel</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, host James discusses the critical topic of cybersecurity in procurement with expert Jano Bermudes from CyXcel.</p><p>They explore the importance of cybersecurity in vendor selection, the regulatory landscape, and the necessary precautions organisations must take to protect their data.</p><p><br></p><h2>Cybersecurity 101: what to consider when Buying Software</h2><p><br></p><p>The conversation covers security questions procurement professionals should ask when evaluating software vendors, the importance of security certifications like ISO 27001 and SOC 2, and how companies—big and small—can mitigate cyber risks in their supply chains.</p><p><br></p><p>Jano shares insights into regulatory requirements such as GDPR and DORA, the complexities of supplier compliance, and the critical contract clauses buyers should insist on to protect their businesses.</p><p><br></p><p>Other topics covered include:</p><p><br></p><ol><li>How small businesses can enhance their cybersecurity approach</li><li>Common pitfalls in cloud software security assurances</li><li>Why due diligence and ongoing monitoring are essential</li><li>Negotiating limitation of liability clauses in contracts</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:48] Guest introduction: Jano Bermudes</p><p>[02:02] Key cybersecurity questions</p><p>[07:53] Important regulations &amp; compliance</p><p>[11:44] Cloud security misconceptions</p><p>[14:29] Security certifications explained</p><p>[19:25] Due diligence importance</p><p>[24:16] Essential contract clauses</p><p>[30:00] Negotiating liability limits</p><p>[34:56] Where to learn more</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jano-bermudes-cyxcel/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jano Bermudes on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.cyxcel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CyXcel</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b47e3f9b-613a-4b7f-b9a6-1eafbae2390d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dc7d69ad-7879-4f63-a988-13e440a1379d/Procuretech-ep-02-Cybersecurity-101-for-Buying-Software-Jano-Be.mp3" length="32810600" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>Generative AI opportunities in SRM - Sheldon Mydat from Suppeco</title><itunes:title>Generative AI opportunities in SRM - Sheldon Mydat from Suppeco</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to The Procurement Software Podcast! We’re kicking off Series 6 with a shift to a monthly format and an emphasis on more guest episodes.</p><p>This week, host James Meads welcomes back Sheldon Mydat, founder and CEO of Suppeco, marking his third appearance on the show. Together, they dive deep into the transformative potential of generative AI in SRM and how it’s revolutionising the way procurement professionals handle unstructured and qualitative, rather than quantitative data.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode unpacks the evolution of SRM from spreadsheets and KPI dashboards into a dynamic, relationship-driven process that prioritises operational excellence, resilience, and narrative over mere numbers. If you’ve been curious about AI’s real-world applications in procurement, this conversation is a must-listen.</p><p><br></p><h2>Generative AI in Supplier Relationship Management</h2><p><br></p><p>Suppeco is on a mission to redefine SRM by introducing a digital relationship layer that integrates operational data from diverse sources such as emails, chats, and project documentation. This approach focuses on the qualitative aspects of supplier relationships, fostering collaboration and mitigating risks. Sheldon explains how SRM has evolved from being KPI-heavy to prioritising relationship-driven resilience, a shift accelerated by the pandemic. With the SRM market projected to hit $8 billion by 2030, the importance of this transformation is evident.</p><p><br></p><p>Generative AI is particularly suited for analysing unstructured data, which makes up a significant portion of operational information. Suppeco’s AI capabilities dynamically identify risks, measure cultural fit, and optimise supplier relationships, providing actionable insights and creating contextualised RFPs. By offering a scaled-down SME version, Suppeco ensures that even smaller organisations can leverage advanced SRM features, making it accessible and impactful across different business sizes.</p><p><br></p><p>Addressing data privacy concerns, Sheldon highlights Suppeco’s multi-tenancy system, which keeps customer data securely isolated and ensures that models are never trained on proprietary information. This robust approach underscores their commitment to confidentiality and compliance, ensuring that businesses can adopt this technology confidently.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:00] Introduction to Series 6 and guest Sheldon Mydat.</p><p>[00:03:12] Sheldon’s approach to investing $50,000 in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:09:27] The evolution of SRM and Suppeco’s role.</p><p>[00:14:50] Managing unstructured data in SRM.</p><p>[00:22:31] Use cases for generative AI in SRM.</p><p>[00:29:34] Addressing data privacy concerns.</p><p>[00:35:05] Integrating external data sources into SRM platforms.</p><p>[00:37:24] Democratising SRM for SMEs.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheldon Mydat on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.suppeco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suppeco</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to The Procurement Software Podcast! We’re kicking off Series 6 with a shift to a monthly format and an emphasis on more guest episodes.</p><p>This week, host James Meads welcomes back Sheldon Mydat, founder and CEO of Suppeco, marking his third appearance on the show. Together, they dive deep into the transformative potential of generative AI in SRM and how it’s revolutionising the way procurement professionals handle unstructured and qualitative, rather than quantitative data.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode unpacks the evolution of SRM from spreadsheets and KPI dashboards into a dynamic, relationship-driven process that prioritises operational excellence, resilience, and narrative over mere numbers. If you’ve been curious about AI’s real-world applications in procurement, this conversation is a must-listen.</p><p><br></p><h2>Generative AI in Supplier Relationship Management</h2><p><br></p><p>Suppeco is on a mission to redefine SRM by introducing a digital relationship layer that integrates operational data from diverse sources such as emails, chats, and project documentation. This approach focuses on the qualitative aspects of supplier relationships, fostering collaboration and mitigating risks. Sheldon explains how SRM has evolved from being KPI-heavy to prioritising relationship-driven resilience, a shift accelerated by the pandemic. With the SRM market projected to hit $8 billion by 2030, the importance of this transformation is evident.</p><p><br></p><p>Generative AI is particularly suited for analysing unstructured data, which makes up a significant portion of operational information. Suppeco’s AI capabilities dynamically identify risks, measure cultural fit, and optimise supplier relationships, providing actionable insights and creating contextualised RFPs. By offering a scaled-down SME version, Suppeco ensures that even smaller organisations can leverage advanced SRM features, making it accessible and impactful across different business sizes.</p><p><br></p><p>Addressing data privacy concerns, Sheldon highlights Suppeco’s multi-tenancy system, which keeps customer data securely isolated and ensures that models are never trained on proprietary information. This robust approach underscores their commitment to confidentiality and compliance, ensuring that businesses can adopt this technology confidently.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:00] Introduction to Series 6 and guest Sheldon Mydat.</p><p>[00:03:12] Sheldon’s approach to investing $50,000 in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:09:27] The evolution of SRM and Suppeco’s role.</p><p>[00:14:50] Managing unstructured data in SRM.</p><p>[00:22:31] Use cases for generative AI in SRM.</p><p>[00:29:34] Addressing data privacy concerns.</p><p>[00:35:05] Integrating external data sources into SRM platforms.</p><p>[00:37:24] Democratising SRM for SMEs.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next month, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sheldon Mydat on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.suppeco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Suppeco</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ff359942-ef4f-4209-9cce-8a8153b014d9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0147d65e-8265-4bf7-b25f-279943599d51/Procuretech-ep-01-SRM-Sheldon-Mydat-from-Suppeco-edit-2.mp3" length="36430848" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>6</podcast:season></item><item><title>2025 Predictions and &quot;State of Procuretech&quot; address</title><itunes:title>2025 Predictions and &quot;State of Procuretech&quot; address</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special Christmas episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, we celebrate the end of 2024 with a roundup of the latest developments in the procurement technology space.</p><p>James shares insights on the evolution of the industry and presents predictions for 2025 in the "state of procuretech address."</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you're enjoying a festive meal or relaxing during the holiday season, this episode aims to educate and inspire professionals about the exciting changes shaping the procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h2>2025 Procurement Software Market Predictions</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James announces a change for The Procurement Software Podcast coming in 2025. We're shifting from weekly podcast episodes to a dynamic weekly newsletter, which will also house a couple of subscriber-only podcasts. </p><p><br></p><p>Plus, we're keeping The Procurement Software Podcast too with monthly, open access episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>A key focus of the newsletter will be audience segmentation.</p><p><br></p><p>Procurement practitioners and tech professionals have distinct needs, and this tailored approach ensures we put out content that resonates with both groups individually. </p><p><br></p><p>Expect insights that are specific, actionable, and engaging.</p><p><br></p><p>While podcast episodes will become monthly, the emphasis will shift to producing high-quality, in-depth discussions on key topics. This ensures every release is impactful and well-researched.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, audience feedback will play a central role in shaping this new chapter. By aligning with listener preferences, the podcast evolves into an even more valuable resource for its community.</p><p><br></p><p>Stay tuned as <em>Procurement Software Podcast</em> embraces this exciting new direction!</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:03] Weekly newsletter transition announcement.</p><p>[00:08:59] Procurement tech warning signs.</p><p>[00:12:51] Agentic AI in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:17:27] B2B marketplaces' future relevance.</p><p>[00:21:06] AI's impact on procurement roles.</p><p>[00:26:58] AI in document analysis.</p><p>[00:31:20] Build versus buy debate.</p><p>[00:33:30] Software buying versus building.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special Christmas episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, we celebrate the end of 2024 with a roundup of the latest developments in the procurement technology space.</p><p>James shares insights on the evolution of the industry and presents predictions for 2025 in the "state of procuretech address."</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you're enjoying a festive meal or relaxing during the holiday season, this episode aims to educate and inspire professionals about the exciting changes shaping the procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h2>2025 Procurement Software Market Predictions</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James announces a change for The Procurement Software Podcast coming in 2025. We're shifting from weekly podcast episodes to a dynamic weekly newsletter, which will also house a couple of subscriber-only podcasts. </p><p><br></p><p>Plus, we're keeping The Procurement Software Podcast too with monthly, open access episodes.</p><p><br></p><p>A key focus of the newsletter will be audience segmentation.</p><p><br></p><p>Procurement practitioners and tech professionals have distinct needs, and this tailored approach ensures we put out content that resonates with both groups individually. </p><p><br></p><p>Expect insights that are specific, actionable, and engaging.</p><p><br></p><p>While podcast episodes will become monthly, the emphasis will shift to producing high-quality, in-depth discussions on key topics. This ensures every release is impactful and well-researched.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, audience feedback will play a central role in shaping this new chapter. By aligning with listener preferences, the podcast evolves into an even more valuable resource for its community.</p><p><br></p><p>Stay tuned as <em>Procurement Software Podcast</em> embraces this exciting new direction!</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:03] Weekly newsletter transition announcement.</p><p>[00:08:59] Procurement tech warning signs.</p><p>[00:12:51] Agentic AI in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:17:27] B2B marketplaces' future relevance.</p><p>[00:21:06] AI's impact on procurement roles.</p><p>[00:26:58] AI in document analysis.</p><p>[00:31:20] Build versus buy debate.</p><p>[00:33:30] Software buying versus building.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cf9a3c39-f65d-44f4-ad80-40b7dfd58e70</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6f9c31bc-ad6a-4761-8ca5-c5a2ffdaecb0/Procuretech-ep-39-2024-Review-The-State-of-Procuretech-address.mp3" length="36604304" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Private Events as a Marketing Strategy - Gregory Vider from Apadua</title><itunes:title>Private Events as a Marketing Strategy - Gregory Vider from Apadua</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Gregory Vider, co-founder and CEO of Apadua, to discuss their recent Indirect Procurement Days invite-only mini conference held near Frankfurt, Germany.</p><p>Their conversation delves into the benefits of networking in a more intimate setting compared to larger conferences.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to explore how these innovative events could shape the future of marketing in the procurement space.</p><p><br></p><h2>Private Events as a Marketing Strategy</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, Gregory explores the rise of micro events and their unique role in transforming procurement marketing. These intimate gatherings offer a fresh alternative to traditional conferences, prioritising personal connections and meaningful engagement.</p><p><br></p><p>Gregory highlights how micro events, like Apadua’s recent gathering at the Villa Rothschild in Königstein, create a relaxed atmosphere for attendees to connect. Through informal settings—such as a “kitchen party” with tapas and self-serve drinks—participants can engage in deeper conversations and build lasting relationships.</p><p><br></p><p>A key insight is the focus on community-building. By bringing together satisfied clients and potential customers, Apadua fosters authentic interactions that extend beyond the event itself. Gregory explains how this approach strengthens emotional connections with the brand, laying the groundwork for trust and loyalty.</p><p><br></p><p>Another advantage? Micro events offer cost-effective solutions while giving organisers complete control over the attendee experience. This enables companies to align the event’s structure with their values and goals, ensuring a more targeted and impactful outcome.</p><p><br></p><p>By reimagining networking through micro events, Gregory demonstrates how companies can create memorable experiences, nurture relationships, and drive long-term value in today’s dynamic procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:03:07] Productivity and collaboration platform.</p><p>[00:04:11] Procurement and stakeholder collaboration.</p><p>[00:11:41] Kitchen party event concept.</p><p>[00:12:11] Unconventional event networking experience.</p><p>[00:17:06] Emotional attachment to software.</p><p>[00:21:30] ROI from conference participation.</p><p>[00:25:49] Community building through events.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryvider/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gregory Vider on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.apadua.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apadua</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Gregory Vider, co-founder and CEO of Apadua, to discuss their recent Indirect Procurement Days invite-only mini conference held near Frankfurt, Germany.</p><p>Their conversation delves into the benefits of networking in a more intimate setting compared to larger conferences.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to explore how these innovative events could shape the future of marketing in the procurement space.</p><p><br></p><h2>Private Events as a Marketing Strategy</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, Gregory explores the rise of micro events and their unique role in transforming procurement marketing. These intimate gatherings offer a fresh alternative to traditional conferences, prioritising personal connections and meaningful engagement.</p><p><br></p><p>Gregory highlights how micro events, like Apadua’s recent gathering at the Villa Rothschild in Königstein, create a relaxed atmosphere for attendees to connect. Through informal settings—such as a “kitchen party” with tapas and self-serve drinks—participants can engage in deeper conversations and build lasting relationships.</p><p><br></p><p>A key insight is the focus on community-building. By bringing together satisfied clients and potential customers, Apadua fosters authentic interactions that extend beyond the event itself. Gregory explains how this approach strengthens emotional connections with the brand, laying the groundwork for trust and loyalty.</p><p><br></p><p>Another advantage? Micro events offer cost-effective solutions while giving organisers complete control over the attendee experience. This enables companies to align the event’s structure with their values and goals, ensuring a more targeted and impactful outcome.</p><p><br></p><p>By reimagining networking through micro events, Gregory demonstrates how companies can create memorable experiences, nurture relationships, and drive long-term value in today’s dynamic procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:03:07] Productivity and collaboration platform.</p><p>[00:04:11] Procurement and stakeholder collaboration.</p><p>[00:11:41] Kitchen party event concept.</p><p>[00:12:11] Unconventional event networking experience.</p><p>[00:17:06] Emotional attachment to software.</p><p>[00:21:30] ROI from conference participation.</p><p>[00:25:49] Community building through events.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregoryvider/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gregory Vider on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://www.apadua.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apadua</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4d3cc8fb-b3e4-48db-8fd4-f7ad465e79ba</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c8da2c2f-9f35-47e8-824c-f7c79b6df45e/Procuretech-ep-38-Private-Events-as-a-Marketing-Strategy-Gregor.mp3" length="30926767" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Disruptive Spend &amp; Carbon Analytics - Richard Brown from Anvil Analytical</title><itunes:title>Disruptive Spend &amp; Carbon Analytics - Richard Brown from Anvil Analytical</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Richard Brown from Anvil Analytical to discuss the transformative power of spend analytics in procurement.</p><p>The conversation explores the evolution of spend analytics technology, highlighting the advancements from previous years and discussing practical applications that can help organisations operate faster, better, and smarter.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how these developments are reshaping the procurement profession and the tools available to help organisations embrace change.</p><p><br></p><h2>Disruptive Spend Analytics and Carbon Analytics</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, Richard sheds light on the growing importance of spend analytics tools, particularly when integrated with consultancy services. This winning combo can optimise procurement strategies across every industry. He highlights how this combination delivers both immediate insights and ongoing value, meeting the evolving demands of procurement professionals.</p><p><br></p><p>Richard emphasises the critical role of visibility in spending patterns, enabling organisations to identify cost-saving opportunities, negotiate better supplier terms, and make informed decisions. He explains how tools equipped with advanced AI and large language models (LLMs) revolutionise data handling—turning unstructured data, like invoices in multiple languages, into actionable insights.</p><p><br></p><p>A key insight is the shift from traditional consultancy to integrated solutions. With tools such as Anvil that extend beyond short-term projects, it's helped their parent company 4C to now offer long-term partnerships, fostering trust and collaboration over a longer period.</p><p><br></p><p>Richard also explores Anvil’s approach to democratising analytics for SMEs, providing cost-effective solutions that meet their unique needs while building sustainable client relationships. This adaptability empowers smaller organisations to unlock the benefits of advanced spend analytics, but without overwhelming their existing processes.</p><p><br></p><p>By integrating cutting-edge technology with tailored consultancy services, Richard demonstrates how spend analytics can drive immediate value and establish a foundation for long-term success in the dynamic procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:10] Spend analytics in procurement.</p><p>[00:05:22] Customer demographics in procurement services.</p><p>[00:09:44] Accelerated sector entry with LLMs.</p><p>[00:10:36] Unstructured data processing solutions.</p><p>[00:15:08] Revenue stability through technology.</p><p>[00:20:00] SME analytics pricing model.</p><p>[00:22:23] Customer acquisition through procurement tech.</p><p>[00:24:25] Carbon accuracy pyramid challenges.</p><p>[00:29:50] Long-term carbon reduction partnerships.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-brown-62b81b37/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Richard Brown on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://anvilanalytical.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anvil Analytical</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Richard Brown from Anvil Analytical to discuss the transformative power of spend analytics in procurement.</p><p>The conversation explores the evolution of spend analytics technology, highlighting the advancements from previous years and discussing practical applications that can help organisations operate faster, better, and smarter.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how these developments are reshaping the procurement profession and the tools available to help organisations embrace change.</p><p><br></p><h2>Disruptive Spend Analytics and Carbon Analytics</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, Richard sheds light on the growing importance of spend analytics tools, particularly when integrated with consultancy services. This winning combo can optimise procurement strategies across every industry. He highlights how this combination delivers both immediate insights and ongoing value, meeting the evolving demands of procurement professionals.</p><p><br></p><p>Richard emphasises the critical role of visibility in spending patterns, enabling organisations to identify cost-saving opportunities, negotiate better supplier terms, and make informed decisions. He explains how tools equipped with advanced AI and large language models (LLMs) revolutionise data handling—turning unstructured data, like invoices in multiple languages, into actionable insights.</p><p><br></p><p>A key insight is the shift from traditional consultancy to integrated solutions. With tools such as Anvil that extend beyond short-term projects, it's helped their parent company 4C to now offer long-term partnerships, fostering trust and collaboration over a longer period.</p><p><br></p><p>Richard also explores Anvil’s approach to democratising analytics for SMEs, providing cost-effective solutions that meet their unique needs while building sustainable client relationships. This adaptability empowers smaller organisations to unlock the benefits of advanced spend analytics, but without overwhelming their existing processes.</p><p><br></p><p>By integrating cutting-edge technology with tailored consultancy services, Richard demonstrates how spend analytics can drive immediate value and establish a foundation for long-term success in the dynamic procurement landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:10] Spend analytics in procurement.</p><p>[00:05:22] Customer demographics in procurement services.</p><p>[00:09:44] Accelerated sector entry with LLMs.</p><p>[00:10:36] Unstructured data processing solutions.</p><p>[00:15:08] Revenue stability through technology.</p><p>[00:20:00] SME analytics pricing model.</p><p>[00:22:23] Customer acquisition through procurement tech.</p><p>[00:24:25] Carbon accuracy pyramid challenges.</p><p>[00:29:50] Long-term carbon reduction partnerships.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-brown-62b81b37/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Richard Brown on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://anvilanalytical.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anvil Analytical</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">909c0c57-1ebf-42a7-83b4-af6039f51855</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/471baa50-2624-4ef6-9d4e-b637ee2dc61b/Procuretech-ep-37-Disruptive-Spend-Carbon-Analytics-Richard-Bro.mp3" length="33370999" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Why A Players must lead digital transformations</title><itunes:title>Why A Players must lead digital transformations</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores the critical role of A players in leading digital transformations within procurement teams.</p><p>He discusses the challenges organisations face in finding the right talent to implement digital procurement tools and emphasises the importance of having experienced and adept change managers</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for insights that can help drive your organisation's success in embracing technological changes.</p><p><br></p><h2>Why A Players must lead digital transformations</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James delve into the vital role of hiring top-tier talent—or "A players"—to drive digital transformation in procurement. These individuals bring a unique blend of skills in change management, communication, and technology, ensuring that transformation initiatives are successful and impactful.</p><p><br></p><p>Without the right leadership, digital projects often face resistance, poor user adoption, and a lack of strategic alignment. A players stand out by fostering smoother transitions through their ability to navigate organisational change, address user experience challenges, and manage complex stakeholder dynamics.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of understanding and addressing user adoption barriers. By prioritising the needs of end users, A players ensure that new digital tools are intuitive and widely embraced, avoiding common pitfalls like prioritising outdated systems due to executive preferences.</p><p><br></p><p>Equally critical is their role in internal communication. Beyond basic announcements, these leaders create engaging campaigns that align diverse teams, ensuring buy-in and enthusiasm for change. Their diplomatic skills are also indispensable for managing resistant stakeholders and aligning departments with broader goals.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, digital transformation is a long-term commitment. Hiring A players ensures organisations not only achieve their immediate goals but also build a culture of continuous improvement, enabling procurement to remain agile and strategically aligned in a rapidly evolving landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:10] A players lead digital transformations.</p><p>[00:06:27] Digital transformation in procurement.</p><p>[00:08:34] Hiring A players for roles.</p><p>[00:12:29] Autonomy in leadership roles.</p><p>[00:16:24] Gig economy and A players.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores the critical role of A players in leading digital transformations within procurement teams.</p><p>He discusses the challenges organisations face in finding the right talent to implement digital procurement tools and emphasises the importance of having experienced and adept change managers</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for insights that can help drive your organisation's success in embracing technological changes.</p><p><br></p><h2>Why A Players must lead digital transformations</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James delve into the vital role of hiring top-tier talent—or "A players"—to drive digital transformation in procurement. These individuals bring a unique blend of skills in change management, communication, and technology, ensuring that transformation initiatives are successful and impactful.</p><p><br></p><p>Without the right leadership, digital projects often face resistance, poor user adoption, and a lack of strategic alignment. A players stand out by fostering smoother transitions through their ability to navigate organisational change, address user experience challenges, and manage complex stakeholder dynamics.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of understanding and addressing user adoption barriers. By prioritising the needs of end users, A players ensure that new digital tools are intuitive and widely embraced, avoiding common pitfalls like prioritising outdated systems due to executive preferences.</p><p><br></p><p>Equally critical is their role in internal communication. Beyond basic announcements, these leaders create engaging campaigns that align diverse teams, ensuring buy-in and enthusiasm for change. Their diplomatic skills are also indispensable for managing resistant stakeholders and aligning departments with broader goals.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, digital transformation is a long-term commitment. Hiring A players ensures organisations not only achieve their immediate goals but also build a culture of continuous improvement, enabling procurement to remain agile and strategically aligned in a rapidly evolving landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:10] A players lead digital transformations.</p><p>[00:06:27] Digital transformation in procurement.</p><p>[00:08:34] Hiring A players for roles.</p><p>[00:12:29] Autonomy in leadership roles.</p><p>[00:16:24] Gig economy and A players.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b38e2877-e1d2-4ca6-a232-d5970eb728f0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c4a62658-4027-4c58-bc94-12e9ab14b5ca/Procuretech-ep-36-Why-A-Players-must-lead-digital-procurement-t.mp3" length="19231843" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How many procuretechs will still be around in 2 years&apos; time?</title><itunes:title>How many procuretechs will still be around in 2 years&apos; time?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into a provocative topic inspired by a LinkedIn post from industry commentator Jon W. Hansen.</p><p>The post claims that 83% of AI initiatives fail and predicts that 75% of AI solution providers will be out of business by the end of 2025.</p><p>So, is this likely? Tune in as he breaks down these bold claims and offers insights into the future of procurement technology.</p><h2>How many procuretechs will still be here in 2 years?</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James tackles the pressing question of whether 75% of AI solution providers will truly vanish by 2025, a claim recently made by industry commentator Jon W. Hansen. </p><p><br></p><p>While some market consolidation is inevitable, James argues that this figure is exaggerated. Many procurement tech companies are thriving by delivering measurable results and adapting to shifting market demands.</p><p><br></p><p>The discussion highlights how innovative tools are emerging to fill gaps in the market left by underperforming legacy providers. For SMEs and mid-market organisations, this shift is particularly exciting. New solutions tailored to these segments are making procurement tech more accessible and effective, addressing unique challenges often overlooked by traditional players.</p><p><br></p><p>Sustainability tools also take centre stage, as regulatory pressures drive demand for solutions that help organisations achieve compliance. Additionally, niche-specific platforms are gaining traction, offering tailored capabilities for industries like oil and gas, financial services, and emerging markets.</p><p><br></p><p>James emphasises that procurement professionals must remain open to innovation, prioritising results over software brand recognition and flagship case studies. By exploring new entrants alongside established players, organisations can uncover solutions that align with their strategic goals and set them up for long-term success.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:21] Procurement tech sustainability concerns.</p><p>[00:06:31] AI solutions for SMEs.</p><p>[00:08:11] Emerging markets in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:12:38] Legacy player risks in procurement.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into a provocative topic inspired by a LinkedIn post from industry commentator Jon W. Hansen.</p><p>The post claims that 83% of AI initiatives fail and predicts that 75% of AI solution providers will be out of business by the end of 2025.</p><p>So, is this likely? Tune in as he breaks down these bold claims and offers insights into the future of procurement technology.</p><h2>How many procuretechs will still be here in 2 years?</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James tackles the pressing question of whether 75% of AI solution providers will truly vanish by 2025, a claim recently made by industry commentator Jon W. Hansen. </p><p><br></p><p>While some market consolidation is inevitable, James argues that this figure is exaggerated. Many procurement tech companies are thriving by delivering measurable results and adapting to shifting market demands.</p><p><br></p><p>The discussion highlights how innovative tools are emerging to fill gaps in the market left by underperforming legacy providers. For SMEs and mid-market organisations, this shift is particularly exciting. New solutions tailored to these segments are making procurement tech more accessible and effective, addressing unique challenges often overlooked by traditional players.</p><p><br></p><p>Sustainability tools also take centre stage, as regulatory pressures drive demand for solutions that help organisations achieve compliance. Additionally, niche-specific platforms are gaining traction, offering tailored capabilities for industries like oil and gas, financial services, and emerging markets.</p><p><br></p><p>James emphasises that procurement professionals must remain open to innovation, prioritising results over software brand recognition and flagship case studies. By exploring new entrants alongside established players, organisations can uncover solutions that align with their strategic goals and set them up for long-term success.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:21] Procurement tech sustainability concerns.</p><p>[00:06:31] AI solutions for SMEs.</p><p>[00:08:11] Emerging markets in procurement tech.</p><p>[00:12:38] Legacy player risks in procurement.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e4df3484-ae35-4c99-a8c7-e0524e174739</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/54d4199f-0122-4147-9517-182bdc425aa4/Procuretech-ep-35-How-many-procuretechs-will-still-be-around-in.mp3" length="14577032" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>14:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>S2P &amp; Vendor Management in Energy Sector - Praveen Kalamegham from Workrise</title><itunes:title>S2P &amp; Vendor Management in Energy Sector - Praveen Kalamegham from Workrise</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Praveen Kalamegham, CTO of Workrise, to discuss the importance of industry-specific solutions in procurement technology, particularly in the oil and gas sector.</p><p>The conversation dives into how tailored tools can better meet the unique needs of different industries and enhance procurement processes.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how to confidently choose and implement the right procurement tech to drive efficiency and innovation in your organisation.</p><p><br></p><h2>S2P and Vendor Management in the Energy Sector</h2><p><br></p><p>Praveen emphasises the importance of tailored procurement solutions for specific industries, particularly in the energy sector, where complex supply chains and massive capital projects are the norm. He highlights how tailored tools like Workrise address unique challenges, ensuring companies avoid the pitfalls of generic solutions that fail to meet sector-specific needs.</p><p><br></p><p>His perspective focuses on the need for transparency and trust in procurement processes, especially in an industry often driven by handshake agreements. By connecting all aspects of procurement—from sourcing to payment—Workrise fosters real-time visibility and stronger supplier relationships, enabling energy companies to operate more effectively.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is Praveen’s emphasis on adaptability. Workrise is designed to integrate with existing systems, allowing organisations to enhance their current operations without overhauling established processes. This flexibility is particularly vital for companies hesitant to adopt new technologies due to fears of disruption.</p><p><br></p><p>Praveen advocates for building an engaged supplier network, where active collaboration ensures resources are available when needed. This proactive approach, coupled with alignment between procurement and finance functions, accelerates decision-making and enhances cost efficiency.</p><p><br></p><p>By tailoring its solutions to industry needs, Workrise demonstrates how procurement technology can drive immediate value while laying the foundation for long-term success in a highly dynamic sector.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:21] Assessing procurement technology needs.</p><p>[00:06:31] Niche tools for energy procurement.</p><p>[00:08:11] Complexities of CapEx projects.</p><p>[00:12:38] Cost savings in energy supply chain.</p><p>[00:17:25] Niche solutions in energy sector.</p><p>[00:20:34] Supply-side ecosystem challenges.</p><p>[00:25:30] Partnerships in the energy industry.</p><p>[00:27:16] Trust through transparency in industry.</p><p>[00:29:26] Partnership in procurement tech.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pkalamegham/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Praveen Kalamegham on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://workrise.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Workrise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Praveen Kalamegham, CTO of Workrise, to discuss the importance of industry-specific solutions in procurement technology, particularly in the oil and gas sector.</p><p>The conversation dives into how tailored tools can better meet the unique needs of different industries and enhance procurement processes.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how to confidently choose and implement the right procurement tech to drive efficiency and innovation in your organisation.</p><p><br></p><h2>S2P and Vendor Management in the Energy Sector</h2><p><br></p><p>Praveen emphasises the importance of tailored procurement solutions for specific industries, particularly in the energy sector, where complex supply chains and massive capital projects are the norm. He highlights how tailored tools like Workrise address unique challenges, ensuring companies avoid the pitfalls of generic solutions that fail to meet sector-specific needs.</p><p><br></p><p>His perspective focuses on the need for transparency and trust in procurement processes, especially in an industry often driven by handshake agreements. By connecting all aspects of procurement—from sourcing to payment—Workrise fosters real-time visibility and stronger supplier relationships, enabling energy companies to operate more effectively.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is Praveen’s emphasis on adaptability. Workrise is designed to integrate with existing systems, allowing organisations to enhance their current operations without overhauling established processes. This flexibility is particularly vital for companies hesitant to adopt new technologies due to fears of disruption.</p><p><br></p><p>Praveen advocates for building an engaged supplier network, where active collaboration ensures resources are available when needed. This proactive approach, coupled with alignment between procurement and finance functions, accelerates decision-making and enhances cost efficiency.</p><p><br></p><p>By tailoring its solutions to industry needs, Workrise demonstrates how procurement technology can drive immediate value while laying the foundation for long-term success in a highly dynamic sector.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:21] Assessing procurement technology needs.</p><p>[00:06:31] Niche tools for energy procurement.</p><p>[00:08:11] Complexities of CapEx projects.</p><p>[00:12:38] Cost savings in energy supply chain.</p><p>[00:17:25] Niche solutions in energy sector.</p><p>[00:20:34] Supply-side ecosystem challenges.</p><p>[00:25:30] Partnerships in the energy industry.</p><p>[00:27:16] Trust through transparency in industry.</p><p>[00:29:26] Partnership in procurement tech.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pkalamegham/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Praveen Kalamegham on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="http://workrise.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Workrise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">501a2d95-f5de-4a23-b881-383b274efc6d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7f0805b8-ba93-4a01-b5a2-4d063f1f380a/Procuretech-ep-34-Placeholder-Workrise-Sponsored-Episode.mp3" length="31637275" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Which categories of procuretech excite me, and which don&apos;t?</title><itunes:title>Which categories of procuretech excite me, and which don&apos;t?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores most the exciting opportunities in procurement technology, focusing on three emerging categories: spend analytics, e-sourcing, and AI-driven co-pilots, each offering unique solutions to procurement’s evolving challenges.</p><p>Tune in to learn how these innovative tools are reshaping the future of procurement, helping organisations stay competitive in an ever-evolving market.</p><p><br></p><h2>Which categories of procuretech excite me?</h2><p><br></p><p>This week James discusses how spend analytics is now a critical component for larger organisations, especially those operating multiple ERP systems. He compares navigating procurement without spend analytics to sailing a ship without a compass. New, affordable solutions leveraging AI are making these insights accessible to mid-market companies with revenues from $100 million to a few billion, allowing for better spend classification and analysis, and ultimately, more strategic decision-making.</p><p><br></p><p>E-sourcing tools also feature prominently, particularly for organisations looking to streamline tender processes and drive cost savings. Many companies still use outdated methods like emails and spreadsheets, but these lack the efficiency and data tracking capabilities of dedicated e-sourcing platforms. With high user adoption, these tools bring significant operational advantages by centralising supplier data and automating compliance tracking, making them a clear choice for procurement teams aiming for greater productivity.</p><p><br></p><p>James then introduces AI-driven co-pilots as the latest innovation to transform procurement. These tools are designed to automate repetitive tasks, such as routing purchase requests and acknowledging purchase orders, that might be too nuanced for traditional RPA solutions. The flexibility of AI co-pilots allows procurement teams to operate more strategically, focusing on high-impact projects rather than routine workflows.</p><p><br></p><p>Each of these technologies—spend analytics, e-sourcing, and AI-driven co-pilots—represents a leap forward for procurement teams seeking to innovate and adapt in a competitive landscape. By embracing these tools, organisations can drive efficiency, improve supplier relationships, and make more informed decisions.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:21] Categories of ProcureTech excitement.</p><p>[00:06:00] Growth in spend analytics technology.</p><p>[00:08:08] Underserved SME technology market.</p><p>[00:12:05] Tail spend management automation tools.</p><p>[00:16:15] The future of SRM technology.</p><p>[00:21:44] B2B marketplaces - do they have a future?</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores most the exciting opportunities in procurement technology, focusing on three emerging categories: spend analytics, e-sourcing, and AI-driven co-pilots, each offering unique solutions to procurement’s evolving challenges.</p><p>Tune in to learn how these innovative tools are reshaping the future of procurement, helping organisations stay competitive in an ever-evolving market.</p><p><br></p><h2>Which categories of procuretech excite me?</h2><p><br></p><p>This week James discusses how spend analytics is now a critical component for larger organisations, especially those operating multiple ERP systems. He compares navigating procurement without spend analytics to sailing a ship without a compass. New, affordable solutions leveraging AI are making these insights accessible to mid-market companies with revenues from $100 million to a few billion, allowing for better spend classification and analysis, and ultimately, more strategic decision-making.</p><p><br></p><p>E-sourcing tools also feature prominently, particularly for organisations looking to streamline tender processes and drive cost savings. Many companies still use outdated methods like emails and spreadsheets, but these lack the efficiency and data tracking capabilities of dedicated e-sourcing platforms. With high user adoption, these tools bring significant operational advantages by centralising supplier data and automating compliance tracking, making them a clear choice for procurement teams aiming for greater productivity.</p><p><br></p><p>James then introduces AI-driven co-pilots as the latest innovation to transform procurement. These tools are designed to automate repetitive tasks, such as routing purchase requests and acknowledging purchase orders, that might be too nuanced for traditional RPA solutions. The flexibility of AI co-pilots allows procurement teams to operate more strategically, focusing on high-impact projects rather than routine workflows.</p><p><br></p><p>Each of these technologies—spend analytics, e-sourcing, and AI-driven co-pilots—represents a leap forward for procurement teams seeking to innovate and adapt in a competitive landscape. By embracing these tools, organisations can drive efficiency, improve supplier relationships, and make more informed decisions.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:21] Categories of ProcureTech excitement.</p><p>[00:06:00] Growth in spend analytics technology.</p><p>[00:08:08] Underserved SME technology market.</p><p>[00:12:05] Tail spend management automation tools.</p><p>[00:16:15] The future of SRM technology.</p><p>[00:21:44] B2B marketplaces - do they have a future?</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">673f27e7-2374-4fd3-be6e-7b3eeb38199c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/26938bee-4e0b-4a46-8ca2-0435e4201a51/Procuretech-ep-33-Which-categories-of-procuretech-excite-me-and.mp3" length="24875967" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Crushing It with Customer Success - Dan Gianfreda from DeepStream</title><itunes:title>Crushing It with Customer Success - Dan Gianfreda from DeepStream</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads interviews Dan Gianfreda, the new CEO of DeepStream, to explore how procurement teams can move from reactive to proactive tech adoption.</p><p>Focusing on key procurement challenges and organisational maturity, Dan shares actionable insights to help procurement leaders make smarter, value-driven technology decisions aligned with their team's capabilities.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to discover how to transform your procurement function!</p><p><br></p><h2>Crushing eSourcing user adoption with Customer Success</h2><p><br></p><p>Dan highlights the need for procurement leaders to define specific objectives and success metrics before embarking on tech investments. Doing so ensures they avoid the costly mistake of overspending on tools that don’t meet immediate needs. </p><p><br></p><p>His approach centres on starting with simple, foundational tools that align with current capabilities. By mastering essentials first, organisations can prevent the frustration and underutilisation that often follow premature adoption of complex systems.</p><p><br></p><p>A significant takeaway is Dan’s emphasis on leadership involvement, which he sees as crucial for successful digital transformation. Active support from senior management not only ensures proper resource allocation but also cultivates a culture open to change, smoothing the path for tech adoption.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan advocates for a phased rollout, where procurement teams can progressively learn and adapt, building confidence and capacity before tackling advanced tools. This incremental approach minimises risk and maximises effectiveness. It provides a roadmap for realistic, strategic improvements that prepare procurement teams for long-term success in a constantly evolving tech landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:34] Proactive procurement strategies</p><p>[00:05:51] Value realisation in ProcureTech</p><p>[00:09:05] Best of breed vs. suites</p><p>[00:12:01] Customer engagement in sales process</p><p>[00:15:20] Procurement software selection strategy</p><p>[00:19:59] Best of breed vs. suites</p><p>[00:23:33] One size doesn't fit all</p><p>[00:25:35] Customer success and expansion strategy</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-gianfreda-battman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dan Gianfreda on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://deep.stream/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DeepStream</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads interviews Dan Gianfreda, the new CEO of DeepStream, to explore how procurement teams can move from reactive to proactive tech adoption.</p><p>Focusing on key procurement challenges and organisational maturity, Dan shares actionable insights to help procurement leaders make smarter, value-driven technology decisions aligned with their team's capabilities.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to discover how to transform your procurement function!</p><p><br></p><h2>Crushing eSourcing user adoption with Customer Success</h2><p><br></p><p>Dan highlights the need for procurement leaders to define specific objectives and success metrics before embarking on tech investments. Doing so ensures they avoid the costly mistake of overspending on tools that don’t meet immediate needs. </p><p><br></p><p>His approach centres on starting with simple, foundational tools that align with current capabilities. By mastering essentials first, organisations can prevent the frustration and underutilisation that often follow premature adoption of complex systems.</p><p><br></p><p>A significant takeaway is Dan’s emphasis on leadership involvement, which he sees as crucial for successful digital transformation. Active support from senior management not only ensures proper resource allocation but also cultivates a culture open to change, smoothing the path for tech adoption.</p><p><br></p><p>Dan advocates for a phased rollout, where procurement teams can progressively learn and adapt, building confidence and capacity before tackling advanced tools. This incremental approach minimises risk and maximises effectiveness. It provides a roadmap for realistic, strategic improvements that prepare procurement teams for long-term success in a constantly evolving tech landscape.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:01:34] Proactive procurement strategies</p><p>[00:05:51] Value realisation in ProcureTech</p><p>[00:09:05] Best of breed vs. suites</p><p>[00:12:01] Customer engagement in sales process</p><p>[00:15:20] Procurement software selection strategy</p><p>[00:19:59] Best of breed vs. suites</p><p>[00:23:33] One size doesn't fit all</p><p>[00:25:35] Customer success and expansion strategy</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-gianfreda-battman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dan Gianfreda on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://deep.stream/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DeepStream</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">42c4235f-baeb-4b71-bc0f-53cb9e4422bb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d4de76fa-dfd2-48c4-b7b2-e45f4e68a413/Procuretech-ep-32-From-Reactive-to-Proactive-eSourcing-Dan-Gian.mp3" length="30088764" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>10 things that Digital Procurement solutions CAN&apos;T fix</title><itunes:title>10 things that Digital Procurement solutions CAN&apos;T fix</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software<em> </em>Podcast, host James Meads dives into the essential, often overlooked aspects of digital procurement transformation that go beyond the software itself.</p><p>He discusses 10 critical factors that organisations must address, such as people dynamics, internal politics, and deep-rooted organisational issues that technology alone can't resolve.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for actionable insights on transforming procurement strategically</p><p><br></p><h2>10 things Digital Procurement solutions CAN'T fix</h2><p><br></p><p>This week James explains how organisations often rush into software adoption based on analyst recommendations, convincing sales pitches or industry trends, without fully understanding their specific needs.</p><p><br></p><p>Without a clear purpose, such tech initiatives can lead to wasted time, resources, and missed opportunities. James explains that establishing a well-defined objective is essential for ensuring a meaningful transformation.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of assessing internal challenges, such as process inefficiencies, skill gaps, or outdated systems. </p><p><br></p><p>By identifying specific pain points, organisations can tailor their strategy to address actual needs rather than following trends blindly. Engaging stakeholders from across departments—such as the CFO and IT, as well as the wider procurement team beyond senior leadership—further strengthens alignment with broader organisational goals, creating a solid foundation for securing resources and support.</p><p><br></p><p>James also stresses the importance of developing a compelling business case that ties chosen software to identified organisational challenges. This clarity helps in securing buy-in from key decision-makers and guides more informed choices.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, digital procurement transformation is an ongoing journey. </p><p><br></p><p>Regularly revisiting and refining strategies helps ensure that technology remains aligned with the organisation’s evolving objectives, enabling long-term, impactful change.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:38] - Focus on People, Politics, and Organization</p><p>[00:01:09] - 10 Things Digital Procurement Transformation Can't Fix</p><p>[00:01:20] - No Vision of the Why</p><p>[00:02:29] - Procurement Team's Capabilities</p><p>[00:03:39] - No Investment in Learning and Development</p><p>[00:04:47] - Lack of Mandate for Procurement</p><p>[00:06:02] - "We've Always Done It This Way" Culture</p><p>[00:08:05] - Misaligned Procurement KPIs</p><p>[00:09:33] - Poorly Communicated Procurement Processes</p><p>[00:10:50] - CFOs Who Only Recognize PPV Savings</p><p>[00:12:25] - Rigid Inflexible Procurement Governance</p><p>[00:14:50] - General Toxic Work Environment</p><p>[00:16:26] - Conclusion and Call for Listener Stories</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software<em> </em>Podcast, host James Meads dives into the essential, often overlooked aspects of digital procurement transformation that go beyond the software itself.</p><p>He discusses 10 critical factors that organisations must address, such as people dynamics, internal politics, and deep-rooted organisational issues that technology alone can't resolve.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for actionable insights on transforming procurement strategically</p><p><br></p><h2>10 things Digital Procurement solutions CAN'T fix</h2><p><br></p><p>This week James explains how organisations often rush into software adoption based on analyst recommendations, convincing sales pitches or industry trends, without fully understanding their specific needs.</p><p><br></p><p>Without a clear purpose, such tech initiatives can lead to wasted time, resources, and missed opportunities. James explains that establishing a well-defined objective is essential for ensuring a meaningful transformation.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of assessing internal challenges, such as process inefficiencies, skill gaps, or outdated systems. </p><p><br></p><p>By identifying specific pain points, organisations can tailor their strategy to address actual needs rather than following trends blindly. Engaging stakeholders from across departments—such as the CFO and IT, as well as the wider procurement team beyond senior leadership—further strengthens alignment with broader organisational goals, creating a solid foundation for securing resources and support.</p><p><br></p><p>James also stresses the importance of developing a compelling business case that ties chosen software to identified organisational challenges. This clarity helps in securing buy-in from key decision-makers and guides more informed choices.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, digital procurement transformation is an ongoing journey. </p><p><br></p><p>Regularly revisiting and refining strategies helps ensure that technology remains aligned with the organisation’s evolving objectives, enabling long-term, impactful change.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:38] - Focus on People, Politics, and Organization</p><p>[00:01:09] - 10 Things Digital Procurement Transformation Can't Fix</p><p>[00:01:20] - No Vision of the Why</p><p>[00:02:29] - Procurement Team's Capabilities</p><p>[00:03:39] - No Investment in Learning and Development</p><p>[00:04:47] - Lack of Mandate for Procurement</p><p>[00:06:02] - "We've Always Done It This Way" Culture</p><p>[00:08:05] - Misaligned Procurement KPIs</p><p>[00:09:33] - Poorly Communicated Procurement Processes</p><p>[00:10:50] - CFOs Who Only Recognize PPV Savings</p><p>[00:12:25] - Rigid Inflexible Procurement Governance</p><p>[00:14:50] - General Toxic Work Environment</p><p>[00:16:26] - Conclusion and Call for Listener Stories</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">24a7b072-a1fe-46af-8cec-d29021fb3daa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/15f2c54d-b7d4-4f72-b926-57bc4e1393bc/Procuretech-ep-31-10-Things-that-Digital-Procurement-CAN-T-fix.mp3" length="17838356" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>18:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Success with savings tracking (NOT in Excel) - Paul Gurr from Provalido</title><itunes:title>Success with savings tracking (NOT in Excel) - Paul Gurr from Provalido</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads sits down with Paul Gurr, founder of Provalido, to dive into the nuances of building and managing a high-impact savings pipeline.</p><p>From stakeholder alignment to identifying various different savings and value-driving categories, we drill down into key strategies and share  insights to give your budgeting process a nudge in the right direction this Q4.</p><p>Tune in to redefine your pipeline strategy!</p><p><br></p><h2>How to succeed with procurement savings pipelines</h2><p><br></p><p>Paul shares insights into how procurement can move beyond cost-cutting by embracing a structured, continuous ideation process that actively involves stakeholders from departments like finance, operations, and marketing. </p><p><br></p><p>Engaging these perspectives unlocks creative, value-driven solutions that align with organisational goals and foster cross-functional collaboration.</p><p><br></p><p>One of the key points discussed is the importance of leveraging suppliers’ expertise. Paul explains that suppliers can provide invaluable insights into market trends, innovative products, and potential efficiencies, helping organisations identify additional savings opportunities. Maintaining open lines of communication with suppliers can thus be a strategic advantage.</p><p><br></p><p>Paul emphasises that building a high-impact savings pipeline isn’t a one-off project; it’s a dynamic, year-round process. Provalido’s platform is designed to support this by offering a centralised space where ideas can be scored, prioritised, and tracked. This structure not only enhances transparency and accountability but also builds trust among stakeholders by providing clear visibility into the progress of cost-saving initiatives.</p><p><br></p><p>A standout takeaway from this episode is the breakdown of procurement's financial contributions into four categories: </p><p><br></p><ol><li>cost reduction</li><li>cost avoidance</li><li>delayed cost increases</li><li>revenue generation</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Paul explains how these categories require tailored approaches to maximise impact, demonstrating procurement’s ability to contribute strategically to the organisation.</p><p><br></p><p>Ultimately, an effective procurement pipeline goes beyond cost savings, aligning with business objectives and adding long-term value.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:25] Procurement tech's essential functions.</p><p>[00:05:15] Performance management in procurement.</p><p>[00:10:03] Financial benefits of procurement.</p><p>[00:10:57] Cost reduction strategies in procurement.</p><p>[00:15:53] Revenue drivers in procurement.</p><p>[00:19:31] Continuous procurement ideation process.</p><p>[00:22:18] Resource allocation in project management.</p><p>[00:25:17] ROI in savings reporting.</p><p>[00:27:57] Procurement department complexity.</p><p>[00:30:47] Enterprise tech for SMEs.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-gurr-1201b47/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Gurr on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.provalido.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Provalido</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads sits down with Paul Gurr, founder of Provalido, to dive into the nuances of building and managing a high-impact savings pipeline.</p><p>From stakeholder alignment to identifying various different savings and value-driving categories, we drill down into key strategies and share  insights to give your budgeting process a nudge in the right direction this Q4.</p><p>Tune in to redefine your pipeline strategy!</p><p><br></p><h2>How to succeed with procurement savings pipelines</h2><p><br></p><p>Paul shares insights into how procurement can move beyond cost-cutting by embracing a structured, continuous ideation process that actively involves stakeholders from departments like finance, operations, and marketing. </p><p><br></p><p>Engaging these perspectives unlocks creative, value-driven solutions that align with organisational goals and foster cross-functional collaboration.</p><p><br></p><p>One of the key points discussed is the importance of leveraging suppliers’ expertise. Paul explains that suppliers can provide invaluable insights into market trends, innovative products, and potential efficiencies, helping organisations identify additional savings opportunities. Maintaining open lines of communication with suppliers can thus be a strategic advantage.</p><p><br></p><p>Paul emphasises that building a high-impact savings pipeline isn’t a one-off project; it’s a dynamic, year-round process. Provalido’s platform is designed to support this by offering a centralised space where ideas can be scored, prioritised, and tracked. This structure not only enhances transparency and accountability but also builds trust among stakeholders by providing clear visibility into the progress of cost-saving initiatives.</p><p><br></p><p>A standout takeaway from this episode is the breakdown of procurement's financial contributions into four categories: </p><p><br></p><ol><li>cost reduction</li><li>cost avoidance</li><li>delayed cost increases</li><li>revenue generation</li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Paul explains how these categories require tailored approaches to maximise impact, demonstrating procurement’s ability to contribute strategically to the organisation.</p><p><br></p><p>Ultimately, an effective procurement pipeline goes beyond cost savings, aligning with business objectives and adding long-term value.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:25] Procurement tech's essential functions.</p><p>[00:05:15] Performance management in procurement.</p><p>[00:10:03] Financial benefits of procurement.</p><p>[00:10:57] Cost reduction strategies in procurement.</p><p>[00:15:53] Revenue drivers in procurement.</p><p>[00:19:31] Continuous procurement ideation process.</p><p>[00:22:18] Resource allocation in project management.</p><p>[00:25:17] ROI in savings reporting.</p><p>[00:27:57] Procurement department complexity.</p><p>[00:30:47] Enterprise tech for SMEs.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-gurr-1201b47/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Paul Gurr on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.provalido.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Provalido</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f98711b-5b38-4afe-81f8-e258244a1f9c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c458795c-80fd-4bc8-8e00-c2fc17ebcac4/Procuretech-ep-30-Placeholder-Provalido-sponsored-episode.mp3" length="30644205" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Is Procurement still seen as a back office function?</title><itunes:title>Is Procurement still seen as a back office function?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads tackles why procurement is often seen as a back-office function and offers insights on transforming it into a strategic powerhouse.</p><p>Outdated perceptions, poor data quality, inadequate technology, and a lack of executive mandate keep procurement from reaching its full potential as a value-driving function.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for actionable steps on elevating procurement to a strategic role!</p><p><br></p><h2>Is procurement still a back office function?</h2><p><br></p><p>James explores how aligning procurement with broader business objectives is essential for moving it beyond tactical tasks. </p><p><br></p><p>When procurement operates in isolation, it risks being perceived as purely administrative, rather than as a critical contributor to the organisation’s success. To shift this perception, integration with overarching goals is crucial, enabling procurement to directly support strategic initiatives and deliver measurable impact.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of accurate, reliable data in empowering procurement teams to make informed, fact-based decisions. With high-quality data, procurement can hold meaningful, value-driven discussions with stakeholders, advocating for its role as a strategic partner within the organisation. Strong data not only facilitates better decision-making but also helps procurement showcase its contributions more effectively.</p><p><br></p><p>James also highlights the transformative role of modern technology. Many procurement teams still rely on archaic ERP systems that handle only tactical procurement tasks, leaving limited scope for strategic engagement. </p><p><br></p><p>By adopting fit-for-purpose tools, teams can automate repetitive, low-value tasks, creating valuable time for high-impact initiatives like supplier relationship management and category strategy.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, James underscores the importance of a clear mandate from leadership. With executive support, procurement can proactively align its objectives with the organisation’s, evolving from an operational function to a strategic partner that drives long-term value and growth.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:38] - Moving Procurement from Back Office to Strategic</p><p>[00:01:31] - Why Procurement is Labelled as a Back Office Function</p><p>[00:03:29] - Factors Contributing to Procurement's Back Office Label</p><p>[00:05:17] - Importance of Well-Run Procurement Organisations</p><p>[00:05:38] - Role of Procurement Technology</p><p>[00:07:04] - Trends in Procurement Technology Adoption</p><p>[00:08:38] - Achieving ROI on Procurement Tech</p><p>[00:09:48] - Importance of Good Spend Data and Contract Visibility</p><p>[00:10:54] - Tools and Resources for Procurement Tech</p><p>[00:11:05] - The People Aspect in Procurement Transformation</p><p>[00:12:39] - Centralisation in Procurement Teams</p><p>[00:13:53] - Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads tackles why procurement is often seen as a back-office function and offers insights on transforming it into a strategic powerhouse.</p><p>Outdated perceptions, poor data quality, inadequate technology, and a lack of executive mandate keep procurement from reaching its full potential as a value-driving function.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in for actionable steps on elevating procurement to a strategic role!</p><p><br></p><h2>Is procurement still a back office function?</h2><p><br></p><p>James explores how aligning procurement with broader business objectives is essential for moving it beyond tactical tasks. </p><p><br></p><p>When procurement operates in isolation, it risks being perceived as purely administrative, rather than as a critical contributor to the organisation’s success. To shift this perception, integration with overarching goals is crucial, enabling procurement to directly support strategic initiatives and deliver measurable impact.</p><p><br></p><p>A key takeaway is the importance of accurate, reliable data in empowering procurement teams to make informed, fact-based decisions. With high-quality data, procurement can hold meaningful, value-driven discussions with stakeholders, advocating for its role as a strategic partner within the organisation. Strong data not only facilitates better decision-making but also helps procurement showcase its contributions more effectively.</p><p><br></p><p>James also highlights the transformative role of modern technology. Many procurement teams still rely on archaic ERP systems that handle only tactical procurement tasks, leaving limited scope for strategic engagement. </p><p><br></p><p>By adopting fit-for-purpose tools, teams can automate repetitive, low-value tasks, creating valuable time for high-impact initiatives like supplier relationship management and category strategy.</p><p><br></p><p>Finally, James underscores the importance of a clear mandate from leadership. With executive support, procurement can proactively align its objectives with the organisation’s, evolving from an operational function to a strategic partner that drives long-term value and growth.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:00:38] - Moving Procurement from Back Office to Strategic</p><p>[00:01:31] - Why Procurement is Labelled as a Back Office Function</p><p>[00:03:29] - Factors Contributing to Procurement's Back Office Label</p><p>[00:05:17] - Importance of Well-Run Procurement Organisations</p><p>[00:05:38] - Role of Procurement Technology</p><p>[00:07:04] - Trends in Procurement Technology Adoption</p><p>[00:08:38] - Achieving ROI on Procurement Tech</p><p>[00:09:48] - Importance of Good Spend Data and Contract Visibility</p><p>[00:10:54] - Tools and Resources for Procurement Tech</p><p>[00:11:05] - The People Aspect in Procurement Transformation</p><p>[00:12:39] - Centralisation in Procurement Teams</p><p>[00:13:53] - Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1d3e2b05-0168-4694-82e9-71d420dc5942</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8e6eb787-c2c0-4512-a75f-3ec2d858b0a7/Procuretech-ep-29-Is-Procurement-still-seen-as-a-back-office-fu.mp3" length="15276691" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>15:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How much automation should we expect in procurement?</title><itunes:title>How much automation should we expect in procurement?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the transformative impact of automation in procurement, focusing on how emerging technologies are reshaping the industry.</p><p>Tune in to learn how these technologies, paired with critical human skills, can help you future-proof your career and enhance efficiency in your procurement processes.</p><p><br></p><h2>Automation's game-changing impact on procurement efficiency</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James explores the transformative power of automation in procurement, focusing on how emerging technologies like AI, machine learning, and robotic process automation (RPA) are reshaping the field. He explains that while automation is taking over repetitive tasks, particularly in areas like Procure-to-Pay (P2P) and sourcing, it is also creating opportunities for procurement professionals to shift their focus to more strategic activities.</p><p><br></p><p>James emphasises the importance of balancing automation with human skills, such as critical thinking and relationship building, which remain crucial for effective procurement. He also highlights how tools like generative AI are streamlining processes that once took hours, like drafting RFPs, making the procurement function more efficient.</p><p><br></p><p>Additionally, James discusses how professionals can future-proof their careers by embracing these technologies while honing their interpersonal and strategic skills, ensuring they remain valuable in an increasingly automated landscape.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p><br></p><p>[00:01:20] AI's impact on procurement roles.</p><p>[00:04:08] Importance of interpersonal skills.</p><p>[00:09:10] Generative AI in sourcing RFPs.</p><p>[00:12:18] Automation in contract management.</p><p>[00:16:22] Spend analytics automation improvements.</p><p>[00:21:40] Automation in supplier relationship management.</p><p>[00:25:24] Future-proofing procurement careers.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Stay in touch!</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the transformative impact of automation in procurement, focusing on how emerging technologies are reshaping the industry.</p><p>Tune in to learn how these technologies, paired with critical human skills, can help you future-proof your career and enhance efficiency in your procurement processes.</p><p><br></p><h2>Automation's game-changing impact on procurement efficiency</h2><p><br></p><p>This week, James explores the transformative power of automation in procurement, focusing on how emerging technologies like AI, machine learning, and robotic process automation (RPA) are reshaping the field. He explains that while automation is taking over repetitive tasks, particularly in areas like Procure-to-Pay (P2P) and sourcing, it is also creating opportunities for procurement professionals to shift their focus to more strategic activities.</p><p><br></p><p>James emphasises the importance of balancing automation with human skills, such as critical thinking and relationship building, which remain crucial for effective procurement. He also highlights how tools like generative AI are streamlining processes that once took hours, like drafting RFPs, making the procurement function more efficient.</p><p><br></p><p>Additionally, James discusses how professionals can future-proof their careers by embracing these technologies while honing their interpersonal and strategic skills, ensuring they remain valuable in an increasingly automated landscape.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p><br></p><p>[00:01:20] AI's impact on procurement roles.</p><p>[00:04:08] Importance of interpersonal skills.</p><p>[00:09:10] Generative AI in sourcing RFPs.</p><p>[00:12:18] Automation in contract management.</p><p>[00:16:22] Spend analytics automation improvements.</p><p>[00:21:40] Automation in supplier relationship management.</p><p>[00:25:24] Future-proofing procurement careers.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Stay in touch!</p><p><br></p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8610b06b-7df9-4b2d-a483-21e996e037c1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/88c5ab93-f2ea-4853-8474-d70e71045d76/Procuretech-ep-28-How-Much-Automation-Should-We-Really-Expect-I.mp3" length="27936682" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Why rebates offer untapped potential - Mark Gilham from Enable</title><itunes:title>Why rebates offer untapped potential - Mark Gilham from Enable</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Mark Gilham from Enable to discuss the complexities and opportunities surrounding rebates in procurement.</p><p>They explore how effective tracking and reporting of rebates can lead to significant savings for organisations.</p><p>Tune in to discover practical strategies that can help your organisation navigate the opportunities of effective rebate and post-signature contract management.</p><h2>Rebates, and their procurement savings potential</h2><p><br></p><p>In this podcast episode, Mark Gilham from Enable highlights the importance of strong communication between procurement and finance teams when managing rebates. He explains that procurement often focuses on savings, while finance looks at the broader financial impact. Open dialogue is essential to ensure both teams are aligned, particularly when dealing with one-off rebates that can affect financial forecasts.</p><p>Mark also stresses the importance of building strong relationships between the two departments to better understand each other's goals and challenges. Collaboration between procurement and finance can prevent misalignment and ensure smoother rebate management.</p><p>Additionally, Mark discusses how technology, such as Enable’s platform, provides a single source of truth for rebate agreements and performance tracking. This transparency helps both teams access the same data, reducing misunderstandings and driving more informed decision-making, ultimately improving financial outcomes for the organisation.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p>[00:01:10] Rebates and procurement challenges.</p><p>[00:06:38] Procurement and rebate management.</p><p>[00:09:05] Performance-based rebate structures.</p><p>[00:12:36] Communication with finance teams.</p><p>[00:18:30] Collaborative rebate management platform.</p><p>[00:20:03] Contract management tool capabilities.</p><p>[00:27:12] AI in procurement technology.</p><p>[00:28:10] AI in rebate management applications.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilham/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Gilham on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.enable.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enable</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Mark Gilham from Enable to discuss the complexities and opportunities surrounding rebates in procurement.</p><p>They explore how effective tracking and reporting of rebates can lead to significant savings for organisations.</p><p>Tune in to discover practical strategies that can help your organisation navigate the opportunities of effective rebate and post-signature contract management.</p><h2>Rebates, and their procurement savings potential</h2><p><br></p><p>In this podcast episode, Mark Gilham from Enable highlights the importance of strong communication between procurement and finance teams when managing rebates. He explains that procurement often focuses on savings, while finance looks at the broader financial impact. Open dialogue is essential to ensure both teams are aligned, particularly when dealing with one-off rebates that can affect financial forecasts.</p><p>Mark also stresses the importance of building strong relationships between the two departments to better understand each other's goals and challenges. Collaboration between procurement and finance can prevent misalignment and ensure smoother rebate management.</p><p>Additionally, Mark discusses how technology, such as Enable’s platform, provides a single source of truth for rebate agreements and performance tracking. This transparency helps both teams access the same data, reducing misunderstandings and driving more informed decision-making, ultimately improving financial outcomes for the organisation.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p>[00:01:10] Rebates and procurement challenges.</p><p>[00:06:38] Procurement and rebate management.</p><p>[00:09:05] Performance-based rebate structures.</p><p>[00:12:36] Communication with finance teams.</p><p>[00:18:30] Collaborative rebate management platform.</p><p>[00:20:03] Contract management tool capabilities.</p><p>[00:27:12] AI in procurement technology.</p><p>[00:28:10] AI in rebate management applications.</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilham/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mark Gilham on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.enable.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enable</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ecd8a952-6f53-468e-a778-02ea3bc9d11a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c6c91f9f-4e77-464c-9d0d-a30c68517750/Procuretech-ep-27-Mark-Gilham-from-Enable.mp3" length="33569902" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Can Intake &amp; Process Orchestration replace Source-to-Pay suites?</title><itunes:title>Can Intake &amp; Process Orchestration replace Source-to-Pay suites?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the game-changing benefits of intake and process orchestration solutions for procurement teams.</p><p>James highlights how these solutions improve supplier management, compliance, and overall efficiency while freeing procurement teams to focus on strategic decisions.</p><p>Tune in for valuable insights to modernise and future-proof your procurement processes.</p><h2>Can Intake and Process Orchestration eat S2P suites?</h2><p>In this episode, we explore the growing impact of intake and process orchestration solutions on modern procurement. As traditional source-to-pay (S2P) systems face limitations in flexibility and user experience, organisations are turning to these innovative tools to create more efficient and adaptable procurement processes.</p><p>We’ll discuss how these solutions allow for custom workflow design without the need for extensive coding, making them perfect for businesses with diverse or evolving procurement needs. With seamless integration into existing systems and applications—such as supplier quality and ESG tools—intake and process orchestration ensures smoother communication and improved collaboration across departments.</p><p>The episode also highlights the automation potential of these solutions, reducing manual tasks and freeing up procurement teams to focus on more strategic work. We’ll explain how automation capabilities extend beyond simple processes, enhancing decision-making and driving overall procurement effectiveness.</p><p>Join us to learn how intake and process orchestration solutions are setting new standards for procurement technology, offering adaptability, user-centric design, and greater transparency across the entire procurement journey.</p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>[00:01:41] Intake in procurement processes.</p><p>[00:05:58] Process orchestration in procurement.</p><p>[00:10:23] Intake and process orchestration solutions.</p><p>[00:16:12] Future of procurement technology.</p><p>[00:16:44] Market share of sourcing solutions.</p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>Stay in touch!</p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the game-changing benefits of intake and process orchestration solutions for procurement teams.</p><p>James highlights how these solutions improve supplier management, compliance, and overall efficiency while freeing procurement teams to focus on strategic decisions.</p><p>Tune in for valuable insights to modernise and future-proof your procurement processes.</p><h2>Can Intake and Process Orchestration eat S2P suites?</h2><p>In this episode, we explore the growing impact of intake and process orchestration solutions on modern procurement. As traditional source-to-pay (S2P) systems face limitations in flexibility and user experience, organisations are turning to these innovative tools to create more efficient and adaptable procurement processes.</p><p>We’ll discuss how these solutions allow for custom workflow design without the need for extensive coding, making them perfect for businesses with diverse or evolving procurement needs. With seamless integration into existing systems and applications—such as supplier quality and ESG tools—intake and process orchestration ensures smoother communication and improved collaboration across departments.</p><p>The episode also highlights the automation potential of these solutions, reducing manual tasks and freeing up procurement teams to focus on more strategic work. We’ll explain how automation capabilities extend beyond simple processes, enhancing decision-making and driving overall procurement effectiveness.</p><p>Join us to learn how intake and process orchestration solutions are setting new standards for procurement technology, offering adaptability, user-centric design, and greater transparency across the entire procurement journey.</p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>[00:01:41] Intake in procurement processes.</p><p>[00:05:58] Process orchestration in procurement.</p><p>[00:10:23] Intake and process orchestration solutions.</p><p>[00:16:12] Future of procurement technology.</p><p>[00:16:44] Market share of sourcing solutions.</p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>Stay in touch!</p><ol><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">228251e5-59c3-4613-acf8-b3e56aab4409</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fbfa1fa1-0dc7-4f12-8a05-d8e8707181a1/Procuretech-ep-26-Can-Intake-Process-Orchestration-replace-Sour.mp3" length="18235852" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>18:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How to make SAP more intuitive - Shaun Syvertsen from ConvergentIS</title><itunes:title>How to make SAP more intuitive - Shaun Syvertsen from ConvergentIS</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Shaun Syvertsen, CEO of Convergent IS, to discuss how organisations can enhance their procurement processes by improving the user experience of SAP.</p><p>They delve into the complexities of the system and share insights on how to leverage procurement technology to simplify the intake-to-procure process for companies who use SAP as their ERP.</p><p>Tune in to discover practical strategies and tools that can help your organisation navigate the evolving landscape of procurement software, especially tailored for the mid-market.</p><p><br></p><h2>How to make SAP more user-friendly on the front end</h2><p><br></p><p>This episode dives into the importance of having a clear procurement strategy before selecting any technology. Sean emphasises the need for clarity in your goals, ensuring alignment between technology solutions and your organisation’s needs.</p><p><br></p><p>Key takeaways include:</p><p><br></p><p>Defining Your Strategy: Be clear on your procurement approach before exploring technology options.</p><p><br></p><p>Aligning with Goals: Make sure the chosen tools align with your organisation’s objectives to avoid adoption gaps.</p><p><br></p><p>User Adoption: Sean discusses how user-friendly technology is crucial for ensuring employees engage with the system rather than bypass it.</p><p><br></p><p>Expert Guidance: Investing in expert advice early on can save both time and resources by selecting the right technology from the start.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how a well-defined strategy can lead to successful procurement technology investments and drive long-term organisational success.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:10] SAP user experience enhancement</p><p>[00:05:14] Know your why before your what</p><p>[00:10:02] Integration with SAP systems</p><p>[00:12:30] Orchestration in procurement systems</p><p>[00:17:59] User adoption and process design</p><p>[00:20:16] Procurement transparency and efficiency</p><p>[00:23:11] Orchestration solutions in procurement</p><p>[00:27:29] Preventing SaaS sprawl in organisations</p><p>[00:32:40] Reducing time to value with AI</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><p>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></p><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaunsyv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shaun Syvertsen on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.convergentis.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ConvergentIS</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes Shaun Syvertsen, CEO of Convergent IS, to discuss how organisations can enhance their procurement processes by improving the user experience of SAP.</p><p>They delve into the complexities of the system and share insights on how to leverage procurement technology to simplify the intake-to-procure process for companies who use SAP as their ERP.</p><p>Tune in to discover practical strategies and tools that can help your organisation navigate the evolving landscape of procurement software, especially tailored for the mid-market.</p><p><br></p><h2>How to make SAP more user-friendly on the front end</h2><p><br></p><p>This episode dives into the importance of having a clear procurement strategy before selecting any technology. Sean emphasises the need for clarity in your goals, ensuring alignment between technology solutions and your organisation’s needs.</p><p><br></p><p>Key takeaways include:</p><p><br></p><p>Defining Your Strategy: Be clear on your procurement approach before exploring technology options.</p><p><br></p><p>Aligning with Goals: Make sure the chosen tools align with your organisation’s objectives to avoid adoption gaps.</p><p><br></p><p>User Adoption: Sean discusses how user-friendly technology is crucial for ensuring employees engage with the system rather than bypass it.</p><p><br></p><p>Expert Guidance: Investing in expert advice early on can save both time and resources by selecting the right technology from the start.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn how a well-defined strategy can lead to successful procurement technology investments and drive long-term organisational success.</p><p><br></p><h3>Timestamps:</h3><p><br></p><p>[00:02:10] SAP user experience enhancement</p><p>[00:05:14] Know your why before your what</p><p>[00:10:02] Integration with SAP systems</p><p>[00:12:30] Orchestration in procurement systems</p><p>[00:17:59] User adoption and process design</p><p>[00:20:16] Procurement transparency and efficiency</p><p>[00:23:11] Orchestration solutions in procurement</p><p>[00:27:29] Preventing SaaS sprawl in organisations</p><p>[00:32:40] Reducing time to value with AI</p><p><br></p><p>And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!</p><p><br></p><p>We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><p><br></p><p>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></p><p><br></p><ol><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaunsyv/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shaun Syvertsen on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.convergentis.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ConvergentIS</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ol><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">daccd4e1-32c3-47cf-8038-d7f64ebd03da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e90c5edd-ceef-4933-aaf3-0945936b2c8c/Procuretech-ep-25-How-to-make-SAP-more-intuitive-Shaun-Syvertse.mp3" length="36636929" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Our Procurement Tech Maps: SME, Mid-Market, and now Enterprise</title><itunes:title>Our Procurement Tech Maps: SME, Mid-Market, and now Enterprise</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the power of our Tech Maps and how they can simplify your search for the right procurement technology.

Whether you're part of a small business, mid-market company, or a large enterprise, Tech Maps from ProcurementSoftware.site offer a tailored approach to finding the technology that best fits your needs.

Tune in to learn how to leverage this valuable tool and explore the resources available to support your digital procurement journey.
<h2>Procurement Tech Maps: SME, Mid-Market and Enterprise</h2>
This week, we explore how Tech Maps can be a vital tool in navigating the complex procurement technology landscape. Designed to offer a clear overview of various market players, TechMaps help procurement professionals identify solutions that best fit their needs, without the noise of vendor endorsements or biases.

We discuss how these maps categorise solutions by target market—whether SMEs, mid-market, or large enterprises—providing a tailored approach to finding the right tools. Beyond just listing companies, the Tech Maps offer a snapshot of the procurement tech ecosystem, helping you on the start of your journey towards making informed decisions.

Additionally, the episode highlights the resources available to dive deeper, from a free software database to personalised consultations and detailed research options. By utilising Tech Maps and these supporting tools, organisations can confidently navigate their digital procurement journey.

Tune in to discover how our Tech Maps can streamline your search for the perfect procurement technology solutions, tailored to your specific needs.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:42] What should our Tech Maps be used for?
[00:06:33] Procurement tech for different businesses.
[00:09:02] Spend analytics in tech maps.
[00:15:07] Understanding the procurement tech market.
[00:17:28] Ways to Find Software Solutions.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
&nbsp;

&nbsp;]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this week's episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the power of our Tech Maps and how they can simplify your search for the right procurement technology.

Whether you're part of a small business, mid-market company, or a large enterprise, Tech Maps from ProcurementSoftware.site offer a tailored approach to finding the technology that best fits your needs.

Tune in to learn how to leverage this valuable tool and explore the resources available to support your digital procurement journey.
<h2>Procurement Tech Maps: SME, Mid-Market and Enterprise</h2>
This week, we explore how Tech Maps can be a vital tool in navigating the complex procurement technology landscape. Designed to offer a clear overview of various market players, TechMaps help procurement professionals identify solutions that best fit their needs, without the noise of vendor endorsements or biases.

We discuss how these maps categorise solutions by target market—whether SMEs, mid-market, or large enterprises—providing a tailored approach to finding the right tools. Beyond just listing companies, the Tech Maps offer a snapshot of the procurement tech ecosystem, helping you on the start of your journey towards making informed decisions.

Additionally, the episode highlights the resources available to dive deeper, from a free software database to personalised consultations and detailed research options. By utilising Tech Maps and these supporting tools, organisations can confidently navigate their digital procurement journey.

Tune in to discover how our Tech Maps can streamline your search for the perfect procurement technology solutions, tailored to your specific needs.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:42] What should our Tech Maps be used for?
[00:06:33] Procurement tech for different businesses.
[00:09:02] Spend analytics in tech maps.
[00:15:07] Understanding the procurement tech market.
[00:17:28] Ways to Find Software Solutions.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
&nbsp;

&nbsp;]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bd220315-3f18-41ba-a648-7a3cc1b51212</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ecd51bb7-acfa-486b-8987-9db2f00109f8/Procuretech-ep-24-Our-Procurement-Tech-Maps-SME-Mid-Market-Ente.mp3" length="19226824" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Why do big consultancies partner with legacy S2P suites?</title><itunes:title>Why do big consultancies partner with legacy S2P suites?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into why big consultancies often partner with legacy source-to-pay suites.

Host James Meads explains how their corporate mindset and focus on large organisations can limit their understanding of the broader digital procurement market. Also, how conflicts of interest can result in big consultancies shilling legacy software.

Tune in to explore how to avoid falling for the trap of thinking the big consultancy is your friend when it comes to advisory on procurement software choices.
<h2><strong>Why do big consultancies partner with legacy tech?</strong></h2>
This week, we delve into how a narrow focus on large corporate solutions drive big consultancies to favour established software players, often at the expense of more suitable options for small and mid-sized businesses.

Financial incentives are also a key factor, with consultancies earning commissions on software sales and profiting from the complex, time-consuming implementation processes.

These practices, however, raise significant ethical concerns.

The episode sheds light on the conflicts of interest that arise when consultancies receive commissions, while simultaneously billing clients for their services. We contrast this with Procurementsoftware.site's commitment to providing impartial, client-focused advice, free from any conflict of interest from software providers.

Tune in to gain insights into how these dynamics shape the procurement technology landscape and why choosing an unbiased advisor is essential for making the best decisions for your organisation.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:00:38] - Why Big Consultancies Partner with Legacy Source-to-Pay Suites
[00:01:21] - Corporate Mentality and Market Knowledge
[00:02:44] - Influence of Research Houses
[00:04:00] - Affiliate and Partner Commissions
[00:05:04] - Implementation and Business Model of Big Consultancies
[00:06:39] - Complexity and Configuration of Legacy Software
[00:08:04] - Profit Margins in Implementation Projects
[00:09:08] - Ongoing Consultancy Needs and Customisation
[00:10:13] - Lack of Innovation and Market Knowledge
[00:11:06] - Best of Breed Solutions vs. Legacy Suites
[00:11:49] - Impartial Advice and Conflict of Interest

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into why big consultancies often partner with legacy source-to-pay suites.

Host James Meads explains how their corporate mindset and focus on large organisations can limit their understanding of the broader digital procurement market. Also, how conflicts of interest can result in big consultancies shilling legacy software.

Tune in to explore how to avoid falling for the trap of thinking the big consultancy is your friend when it comes to advisory on procurement software choices.
<h2><strong>Why do big consultancies partner with legacy tech?</strong></h2>
This week, we delve into how a narrow focus on large corporate solutions drive big consultancies to favour established software players, often at the expense of more suitable options for small and mid-sized businesses.

Financial incentives are also a key factor, with consultancies earning commissions on software sales and profiting from the complex, time-consuming implementation processes.

These practices, however, raise significant ethical concerns.

The episode sheds light on the conflicts of interest that arise when consultancies receive commissions, while simultaneously billing clients for their services. We contrast this with Procurementsoftware.site's commitment to providing impartial, client-focused advice, free from any conflict of interest from software providers.

Tune in to gain insights into how these dynamics shape the procurement technology landscape and why choosing an unbiased advisor is essential for making the best decisions for your organisation.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:00:38] - Why Big Consultancies Partner with Legacy Source-to-Pay Suites
[00:01:21] - Corporate Mentality and Market Knowledge
[00:02:44] - Influence of Research Houses
[00:04:00] - Affiliate and Partner Commissions
[00:05:04] - Implementation and Business Model of Big Consultancies
[00:06:39] - Complexity and Configuration of Legacy Software
[00:08:04] - Profit Margins in Implementation Projects
[00:09:08] - Ongoing Consultancy Needs and Customisation
[00:10:13] - Lack of Innovation and Market Knowledge
[00:11:06] - Best of Breed Solutions vs. Legacy Suites
[00:11:49] - Impartial Advice and Conflict of Interest

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3d8c17c0-5a70-4c82-96dc-7085deaecc36</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/23560142-235e-41ee-8eee-218fa531a7de/Procuretech-ep-23-Why-do-big-consultancies-partner-with-legacy-.mp3" length="14820284" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>14:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Start Small, Prove the ROI, then Expand and Build on Success</title><itunes:title>Start Small, Prove the ROI, then Expand and Build on Success</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast tackles the often-overlooked challenge of securing a budget for procurement technologies.

Host James Meads provides actionable strategies to overcome this hurdle, emphasising the importance of starting small with pilot studies and opting for affordable, user-based software solutions.

He also explores how procurement professionals can work smarter by reallocating existing budgets. Doing so can clearly demonstrate ROI to gain buy-in from financial decision-makers for larger investments.

Tune in to discover how to successfully advocate for procurement tech investments and drive innovation within your organisation.
<h2>Start Small, Prove the ROI, then Build on Success</h2>
James delves into this question, discussing the common obstacles procurement teams face due to a lack of dedicated software budgets and the high ROI expectations from CFOs.

Key strategies include launching pilot studies in specific areas, such as a single manufacturing site or country office. Then, leveraging affordable software options like entry level procure-to-pay platforms, SRM tools like Canopy and LUPR, contract management systems like Concord, and e-sourcing platforms such as Market Dojo.

James stresses the importance of taking initiative by reallocating budgets from travel, training, or consultancy to fund these projects. Proving the concept and generating positive feedback can create momentum, leading to wider technology adoption within the organisation.

Tune in for practical insights and strategies to navigate procurement’s budget challenges and drive digital transformation effectively.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:31] - The Challenge: Lack of Procurement Software Budget
[00:03:07] - Understanding CFOs and ROI
[00:04:23] - Starting Small with Pilot Studies
[00:06:19] - Building Internal Support and Testimonials
[00:08:07] - Quantifying Productivity and Opportunity Costs
[00:10:04] - Carving Out Your Own Budget
[00:10:25] - Affordable Procurement Software Examples

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast tackles the often-overlooked challenge of securing a budget for procurement technologies.

Host James Meads provides actionable strategies to overcome this hurdle, emphasising the importance of starting small with pilot studies and opting for affordable, user-based software solutions.

He also explores how procurement professionals can work smarter by reallocating existing budgets. Doing so can clearly demonstrate ROI to gain buy-in from financial decision-makers for larger investments.

Tune in to discover how to successfully advocate for procurement tech investments and drive innovation within your organisation.
<h2>Start Small, Prove the ROI, then Build on Success</h2>
James delves into this question, discussing the common obstacles procurement teams face due to a lack of dedicated software budgets and the high ROI expectations from CFOs.

Key strategies include launching pilot studies in specific areas, such as a single manufacturing site or country office. Then, leveraging affordable software options like entry level procure-to-pay platforms, SRM tools like Canopy and LUPR, contract management systems like Concord, and e-sourcing platforms such as Market Dojo.

James stresses the importance of taking initiative by reallocating budgets from travel, training, or consultancy to fund these projects. Proving the concept and generating positive feedback can create momentum, leading to wider technology adoption within the organisation.

Tune in for practical insights and strategies to navigate procurement’s budget challenges and drive digital transformation effectively.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:31] - The Challenge: Lack of Procurement Software Budget
[00:03:07] - Understanding CFOs and ROI
[00:04:23] - Starting Small with Pilot Studies
[00:06:19] - Building Internal Support and Testimonials
[00:08:07] - Quantifying Productivity and Opportunity Costs
[00:10:04] - Carving Out Your Own Budget
[00:10:25] - Affordable Procurement Software Examples

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3be881cd-9689-4cbb-b535-41dce934f5a0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/168bb2b1-fb8e-452e-95c7-cf0d6af6880f/Procuretech-ep-22-Start-Small-Prove-the-ROI-then-Expand-and-Bui.mp3" length="15854739" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>15:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Will Tech and AI make Category Manager roles irrelevant?</title><itunes:title>Will Tech and AI make Category Manager roles irrelevant?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into the impact of technology and AI on category manager roles in procurement.

Host James Meads explores how advancements in tech can potentially change the landscape of procurement and discusses specific areas like spend analytics that can benefit from AI applications.

Tune in to learn more about the evolving role of category managers in the era of technological advancements.
<h2><strong>Will Tech and AI make Category Management irrelevant?</strong></h2>
In this episode, we explore how AI and technology are transforming the role of category managers in procurement. AI can automate many tactical tasks, such as spend analytics, sourcing, supplier management, and contract reviews, reducing the operational workload. This automation enables category managers to focus on more strategic activities, enhancing their ability to deliver value to the organisation.

Despite the efficiency AI brings, it cannot replace the essential soft skills required for effective supplier management and stakeholder engagement. The episode underscores that human emotional intelligence and communication skills remain crucial. Category managers excel in fostering relationships, developing category strategies, and crafting compelling narratives around data to engage stakeholders.

Tune in to learn how AI empowers category managers to shift from routine tasks to high-impact activities, driving strategic decision-making and value creation within organisations.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:02:24] AI in sourcing applications
[00:04:43] Contract Management AI Technology
[00:11:31] The rise of prompt engineering
[00:15:14] AI limitations and soft skills
[00:17:15] AI in procurement advancements

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into the impact of technology and AI on category manager roles in procurement.

Host James Meads explores how advancements in tech can potentially change the landscape of procurement and discusses specific areas like spend analytics that can benefit from AI applications.

Tune in to learn more about the evolving role of category managers in the era of technological advancements.
<h2><strong>Will Tech and AI make Category Management irrelevant?</strong></h2>
In this episode, we explore how AI and technology are transforming the role of category managers in procurement. AI can automate many tactical tasks, such as spend analytics, sourcing, supplier management, and contract reviews, reducing the operational workload. This automation enables category managers to focus on more strategic activities, enhancing their ability to deliver value to the organisation.

Despite the efficiency AI brings, it cannot replace the essential soft skills required for effective supplier management and stakeholder engagement. The episode underscores that human emotional intelligence and communication skills remain crucial. Category managers excel in fostering relationships, developing category strategies, and crafting compelling narratives around data to engage stakeholders.

Tune in to learn how AI empowers category managers to shift from routine tasks to high-impact activities, driving strategic decision-making and value creation within organisations.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:02:24] AI in sourcing applications
[00:04:43] Contract Management AI Technology
[00:11:31] The rise of prompt engineering
[00:15:14] AI limitations and soft skills
[00:17:15] AI in procurement advancements

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c7cec71d-1198-45b9-ab8a-4120fc16686e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f88b22d6-f522-481b-b771-53a3048bed16/Procuretech-ep-NEW-21-Will-Tech-and-AI-make-Category-Manager-ro.mp3" length="19993787" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Does Direct Spend need its own Tech Stack?</title><itunes:title>Does Direct Spend need its own Tech Stack?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into some unique technology needs that direct procurement teams are often facing.

James explores how specialised tech stacks, including advanced inventory management systems, supplier relationship tools, and risk mitigation software, can address the distinct challenges faced by direct procurement teams.

Tune in to uncover how these cutting-edge technologies enhance efficiency, mitigate risks, and foster stronger supplier relationships, making sophisticated procurement solutions accessible to direct procurement teams of all sizes.
<h2>Does Direct Spend Need Its Own Tech Stack?</h2>
In this episode, we delve into the unique requirements of direct procurement and why it necessitates a specialised tech stack.
<ul>
 	<li><strong>Inventory Management:</strong> We discuss the importance of handling raw materials and components, highlighting the need for advanced inventory systems and effective BOM spend management.</li>
 	<li><strong>Supplier Relationship Management (SRM):</strong> Emphasising the complexities of supplier relationships in direct procurement, we explore advanced SRM tools that ensure quality control, timely delivery, and compliance with production standards.</li>
 	<li><strong>Risk Management:</strong> We look at how predictive analytics and robust risk mitigation tools are essential for identifying and addressing potential supply chain disruptions.</li>
 	<li><strong>Niche Category Specific Tools:</strong> Certain sub-categories and areas of spend require tailor-made solutions for their nuances. We explore some concrete examples.</li>
</ul><br/>
This episode underscores the need for tailored technology solutions in direct procurement to enhance efficiency, mitigate risks, and strengthen supplier relationships.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:03:06] - Direct Spend vs. Indirect Spend Tech Stack
[00:05:05] - Key Features of Direct Spend Platforms
[00:07:14] - Five Key Areas Where Tech Can Make a Difference in Direct Spend
[00:08:18] - Strategic Sourcing and Cost Management
[00:12:00] - Supply Chain and Operations Planning
[00:14:43] - Quality, Third Party Risk Management, and Sustainability
[00:18:07] - Niche Category Specific Tools
[00:20:48] - Conclusion: Does Direct Procurement Need Its Own Tech Stack?

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into some unique technology needs that direct procurement teams are often facing.

James explores how specialised tech stacks, including advanced inventory management systems, supplier relationship tools, and risk mitigation software, can address the distinct challenges faced by direct procurement teams.

Tune in to uncover how these cutting-edge technologies enhance efficiency, mitigate risks, and foster stronger supplier relationships, making sophisticated procurement solutions accessible to direct procurement teams of all sizes.
<h2>Does Direct Spend Need Its Own Tech Stack?</h2>
In this episode, we delve into the unique requirements of direct procurement and why it necessitates a specialised tech stack.
<ul>
 	<li><strong>Inventory Management:</strong> We discuss the importance of handling raw materials and components, highlighting the need for advanced inventory systems and effective BOM spend management.</li>
 	<li><strong>Supplier Relationship Management (SRM):</strong> Emphasising the complexities of supplier relationships in direct procurement, we explore advanced SRM tools that ensure quality control, timely delivery, and compliance with production standards.</li>
 	<li><strong>Risk Management:</strong> We look at how predictive analytics and robust risk mitigation tools are essential for identifying and addressing potential supply chain disruptions.</li>
 	<li><strong>Niche Category Specific Tools:</strong> Certain sub-categories and areas of spend require tailor-made solutions for their nuances. We explore some concrete examples.</li>
</ul><br/>
This episode underscores the need for tailored technology solutions in direct procurement to enhance efficiency, mitigate risks, and strengthen supplier relationships.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:03:06] - Direct Spend vs. Indirect Spend Tech Stack
[00:05:05] - Key Features of Direct Spend Platforms
[00:07:14] - Five Key Areas Where Tech Can Make a Difference in Direct Spend
[00:08:18] - Strategic Sourcing and Cost Management
[00:12:00] - Supply Chain and Operations Planning
[00:14:43] - Quality, Third Party Risk Management, and Sustainability
[00:18:07] - Niche Category Specific Tools
[00:20:48] - Conclusion: Does Direct Procurement Need Its Own Tech Stack?

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4718d077-66fa-4fc0-a72f-525ed449db48</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4951200f-fe2d-406b-9154-d0cec8744c6a/Procuretech-ep-20-Does-Direct-Spend-need-its-own-Tech-Stack.mp3" length="23620819" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How will Tech Impact L&amp;D? – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</title><itunes:title>How will Tech Impact L&amp;D? – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads sits down with Jonathan O'Brien, Founder and CEO of Positive Purchasing.

The conversation explores the transformative influence of technology on procurement training and learning.

Jonathan, renowned for his podcast, The Procurement Show, as well as being a serial author of procurement textbooks, brings a polished, radio-inspired approach to the conversation.

Join us for an insightful discussion on how technology is transforming procurement training.
<h2><strong>What's the impact of tech on L&amp;D in Procurement?</strong></h2>
In this episode, Jonathan discusses the transition from traditional classroom training to a blend of online and classroom-based learning, a shift accelerated by the pandemic.

He highlights the significance of managing individual learning journeys using various methods, including e-learning, instructor-led sessions, and on-the-job practice. The conversation also delves into how AI can personalise training, create tailored learning plans, and conduct precise skill assessments.

Jonathan emphasises that embracing technology in training is essential for enhancing accessibility and effectiveness in procurement education.

Overall, this episode underscores the gradual yet impactful shift towards a technology-enabled, blended approach in procurement training, aiming to make learning more accessible and effective.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:03:09] Technology in training and development.
[00:05:48] The future of e-learning.
[00:09:44] Continuous learning opportunities.
[00:13:21] Professional development and initiative.
[00:15:31] Tech in Emerging Markets.
[00:19:31] Building a comprehensive learning platform.
[00:21:42] The role of AI.
[00:25:03] Evolution of tech in procurement.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Jonathan for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Jonathan, Positive Purchasing, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanobrien-at-positive-purchasing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Jonathan O'Brien on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://positivepurchasing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Positive Purchasing</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads sits down with Jonathan O'Brien, Founder and CEO of Positive Purchasing.

The conversation explores the transformative influence of technology on procurement training and learning.

Jonathan, renowned for his podcast, The Procurement Show, as well as being a serial author of procurement textbooks, brings a polished, radio-inspired approach to the conversation.

Join us for an insightful discussion on how technology is transforming procurement training.
<h2><strong>What's the impact of tech on L&amp;D in Procurement?</strong></h2>
In this episode, Jonathan discusses the transition from traditional classroom training to a blend of online and classroom-based learning, a shift accelerated by the pandemic.

He highlights the significance of managing individual learning journeys using various methods, including e-learning, instructor-led sessions, and on-the-job practice. The conversation also delves into how AI can personalise training, create tailored learning plans, and conduct precise skill assessments.

Jonathan emphasises that embracing technology in training is essential for enhancing accessibility and effectiveness in procurement education.

Overall, this episode underscores the gradual yet impactful shift towards a technology-enabled, blended approach in procurement training, aiming to make learning more accessible and effective.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:03:09] Technology in training and development.
[00:05:48] The future of e-learning.
[00:09:44] Continuous learning opportunities.
[00:13:21] Professional development and initiative.
[00:15:31] Tech in Emerging Markets.
[00:19:31] Building a comprehensive learning platform.
[00:21:42] The role of AI.
[00:25:03] Evolution of tech in procurement.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Jonathan for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Jonathan, Positive Purchasing, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanobrien-at-positive-purchasing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Jonathan O'Brien on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://positivepurchasing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Positive Purchasing</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">22a640ed-d2ee-4b51-a277-c6fd6d00a207</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4e4539f4-69ea-4c72-a374-bd7ad53e7a71/Procuretech-ep-19-How-will-Tech-impact-L-D-Jonathan-O-Brien-fro.mp3" length="27621552" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Entrepreneurial Procurement: Why we need a business owner mindset</title><itunes:title>Entrepreneurial Procurement: Why we need a business owner mindset</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of entrepreneurial procurement.

Tune in to discover how this approach encourages innovation, efficiency, and greater value delivery, transforming the procurement function into a strategic driver within organisations.
<h2><strong>Entrepreneurial Procurement: Pragmatism over Rigid Process</strong></h2>
In this episode, we explore adopting an entrepreneurial mindset in procurement, focusing on prioritising results over rigid processes. By thinking like a business owner, procurement professionals can deliver greater value to their organisations.

Traditionally, procurement has emphasised set procedures, often at the expense of efficiency and agility. An entrepreneurial approach encourages breaking free from these constraints, driving innovation, expediting decisions, and adapting quickly.

James highlights how re-allocating budgets from FTE salaries to technology can enable teams to invest in tools that automate tasks and enhance efficiency. With this approach, it can be done even if you don't have a specific software budget authorised by the CFO. This shift can lead to significant cost savings and more efficient resource utilisation.

Another key concept is the minimum viable product (MVP) approach, inspired by tech startups. By identifying the bare essential processes needed for compliance, procurement teams can streamline operations, reduce bureaucracy, and foster creativity and agility.

Overall, this entrepreneurial mindset can drive innovation, deliver value, and contribute to organisational success.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:02:26] - The Challenge of Entrepreneurial Procurement
[00:03:10] - Technocratic vs. Entrepreneurial Mindset
[00:04:47] - Thinking Like a Business Owner
[00:05:30] - Budgeting with an Entrepreneurial Mindset
[00:07:05] - Flexible Staffing Strategies
[00:08:43] - Investing in Technology Over Headcount
[00:09:57] - Retaining Star Performers
[00:11:09] - Minimum Viable Product (MVP)
[00:15:04] - Business Partnering Mindset
[00:16:10] - Importance of Data in Procurement

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of entrepreneurial procurement.

Tune in to discover how this approach encourages innovation, efficiency, and greater value delivery, transforming the procurement function into a strategic driver within organisations.
<h2><strong>Entrepreneurial Procurement: Pragmatism over Rigid Process</strong></h2>
In this episode, we explore adopting an entrepreneurial mindset in procurement, focusing on prioritising results over rigid processes. By thinking like a business owner, procurement professionals can deliver greater value to their organisations.

Traditionally, procurement has emphasised set procedures, often at the expense of efficiency and agility. An entrepreneurial approach encourages breaking free from these constraints, driving innovation, expediting decisions, and adapting quickly.

James highlights how re-allocating budgets from FTE salaries to technology can enable teams to invest in tools that automate tasks and enhance efficiency. With this approach, it can be done even if you don't have a specific software budget authorised by the CFO. This shift can lead to significant cost savings and more efficient resource utilisation.

Another key concept is the minimum viable product (MVP) approach, inspired by tech startups. By identifying the bare essential processes needed for compliance, procurement teams can streamline operations, reduce bureaucracy, and foster creativity and agility.

Overall, this entrepreneurial mindset can drive innovation, deliver value, and contribute to organisational success.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:02:26] - The Challenge of Entrepreneurial Procurement
[00:03:10] - Technocratic vs. Entrepreneurial Mindset
[00:04:47] - Thinking Like a Business Owner
[00:05:30] - Budgeting with an Entrepreneurial Mindset
[00:07:05] - Flexible Staffing Strategies
[00:08:43] - Investing in Technology Over Headcount
[00:09:57] - Retaining Star Performers
[00:11:09] - Minimum Viable Product (MVP)
[00:15:04] - Business Partnering Mindset
[00:16:10] - Importance of Data in Procurement

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5ba99b46-ea33-4e63-8e57-8337c5559f06</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bea144ef-8b1f-42fc-a7d0-2534d6a0c459/Procuretech-ep-18-Entrepreneurial-Procurement.mp3" length="17953354" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>18:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How to Transition to a Role in Procuretech – Andrew Daley from EdburyDaley</title><itunes:title>How to Transition to a Role in Procuretech – Andrew Daley from EdburyDaley</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<div data-type="rootblock" data-pm-slice="2 2 [&quot;aiblock&quot;,{&quot;prompt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;preview&quot;:false,&quot;block&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;blk_01J2DY1M3DT0P898MKV75XHZ7X&quot;,&quot;status&quot;:&quot;executing&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;prompt&quot;,&quot;selected_variation&quot;:0,&quot;variations&quot;:[],&quot;configuration&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;blk_cfg_01HJ2RWW678KVNYCW18AY9FM8S&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;prompt&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Summary&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:null,&quot;markdown_value&quot;:null,&quot;prompt_value&quot;:&quot;Write a summary for this podcast episode from the perspective of the podcast host&quot;,&quot;archived_at&quot;:null,&quot;saved&quot;:true,&quot;timestamp_configuration&quot;:null,&quot;quote_configuration&quot;:null},&quot;prosemirror&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;rootblock&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;}]}],&quot;previous_block&quot;:null,&quot;next_block&quot;:null,&quot;error_code&quot;:null,&quot;feedback&quot;:null},&quot;template&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;block_configuration&quot;,&quot;block_configuration_id&quot;:&quot;blk_cfg_01HJ2RWW678KVNYCW18AY9FM8S&quot;,&quot;prompt_value&quot;:&quot;Write a summary for this podcast episode from the perspective of the podcast host&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Summary&quot;}}]">

In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, we welcome back Andrew Daly, a partner at specialist recruitment firm Edbury Daley.

Andrew previously joined us on Episode 11 back in May to discuss digital skills. Today, we delve into how procurement professionals can transition into careers in procurement technology.

Many procurement pros feel burnt out. So, let's explore how you can leverage your skills in a less stressful, and probably more rewarding role within the procurement tech space.

Andrew emphasises the importance of educating oneself about digital tools and becoming a "super user" to stand out to potential employers. He also highlights the value of transferable skills such as relationship management, commercial acumen, and an entrepreneurial mindset.

We discuss the types of roles that might suit different personality traits, from customer success and sales to product management and implementation. Andrew notes that while younger professionals in their late 20s to early 30s might find it easier to make this transition, mindset and adaptability are crucial at any age.

We also touch on the potential risks and rewards of joining a startup versus a more established company. Andrew advises doing thorough due diligence on any prospective employer, especially in terms of leadership credibility and company culture.

</div>
<h3>Episode Timestamps</h3>
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00:03:38 - Core Transferable Skills for Procurement Tech
00:06:15 - Entrepreneurial Skills and Side Hustles
00:08:03 - Personality Traits for Sales and Customer Success Roles
00:09:04 - Personality Traits and Role Suitability
00:10:14 - Modern Sales Skills and Processes
00:11:39 - Types of Procurement Professionals
00:13:34 - Roles for Process and Compliance-Driven Individuals
00:14:56 - Ideal Career Transition Timing
00:17:01 - Senior Procurement Leaders Transitioning to Advisory Roles
00:17:34 - Watchouts When Joining a Procurement Tech Company
00:19:37 - Career Progression in Startups vs. Large Corporates
00:21:04 - Wearing Multiple Hats in Startups
00:23:33 - Learning from Mistakes</div>
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&nbsp;

To wrap up, we have a quick-fire round where Andrew shares his love for Ibiza and his guilty pleasure of staying out late in nightclubs. For those interested in learning more or seeking career advice, Andrew recommends connecting on LinkedIn or checking out the Edbury Daley YouTube channel.

If you're considering a move into procurement tech, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice to help you navigate the transition.

</div>
&nbsp;
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In this episode of the Procurement Software Podcast, we welcome back Andrew Daly, a partner at specialist recruitment firm Edbury Daley.

Andrew previously joined us on Episode 11 back in May to discuss digital skills. Today, we delve into how procurement professionals can transition into careers in procurement technology.

Many procurement pros feel burnt out. So, let's explore how you can leverage your skills in a less stressful, and probably more rewarding role within the procurement tech space.

Andrew emphasises the importance of educating oneself about digital tools and becoming a "super user" to stand out to potential employers. He also highlights the value of transferable skills such as relationship management, commercial acumen, and an entrepreneurial mindset.

We discuss the types of roles that might suit different personality traits, from customer success and sales to product management and implementation. Andrew notes that while younger professionals in their late 20s to early 30s might find it easier to make this transition, mindset and adaptability are crucial at any age.

We also touch on the potential risks and rewards of joining a startup versus a more established company. Andrew advises doing thorough due diligence on any prospective employer, especially in terms of leadership credibility and company culture.

</div>
<h3>Episode Timestamps</h3>
<div data-type="rootblock" data-pm-slice="2 2 [&quot;aiblock&quot;,{&quot;prompt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;preview&quot;:false,&quot;block&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;blk_01J2DY1M3DT0P898MKV75XHZ7X&quot;,&quot;status&quot;:&quot;executing&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;prompt&quot;,&quot;selected_variation&quot;:0,&quot;variations&quot;:[],&quot;configuration&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;blk_cfg_01HJ2RWW678KVNYCW18AY9FM8S&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;prompt&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Summary&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:null,&quot;markdown_value&quot;:null,&quot;prompt_value&quot;:&quot;Write a summary for this podcast episode from the perspective of the podcast host&quot;,&quot;archived_at&quot;:null,&quot;saved&quot;:true,&quot;timestamp_configuration&quot;:null,&quot;quote_configuration&quot;:null},&quot;prosemirror&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;rootblock&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;}]}],&quot;previous_block&quot;:null,&quot;next_block&quot;:null,&quot;error_code&quot;:null,&quot;feedback&quot;:null},&quot;template&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;block_configuration&quot;,&quot;block_configuration_id&quot;:&quot;blk_cfg_01HJ2RWW678KVNYCW18AY9FM8S&quot;,&quot;prompt_value&quot;:&quot;Write a summary for this podcast episode from the perspective of the podcast host&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Summary&quot;}}]">00:02:17 - Andrew Daly's Background and Expertise
00:03:38 - Core Transferable Skills for Procurement Tech
00:06:15 - Entrepreneurial Skills and Side Hustles
00:08:03 - Personality Traits for Sales and Customer Success Roles
00:09:04 - Personality Traits and Role Suitability
00:10:14 - Modern Sales Skills and Processes
00:11:39 - Types of Procurement Professionals
00:13:34 - Roles for Process and Compliance-Driven Individuals
00:14:56 - Ideal Career Transition Timing
00:17:01 - Senior Procurement Leaders Transitioning to Advisory Roles
00:17:34 - Watchouts When Joining a Procurement Tech Company
00:19:37 - Career Progression in Startups vs. Large Corporates
00:21:04 - Wearing Multiple Hats in Startups
00:23:33 - Learning from Mistakes</div>
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&nbsp;

To wrap up, we have a quick-fire round where Andrew shares his love for Ibiza and his guilty pleasure of staying out late in nightclubs. For those interested in learning more or seeking career advice, Andrew recommends connecting on LinkedIn or checking out the Edbury Daley YouTube channel.

If you're considering a move into procurement tech, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice to help you navigate the transition.

</div>
&nbsp;
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<h3>Stay in Touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edburydaleyandrew/">Connect with Andrew Daley on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://edburydaley.com/">Visit EdburyDaley's website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@EdburyDaley">EdburyDaley Youtube Channel</a></li>
 	<li>Grab our FREE 20 Minute <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/">Digital Procurement 101 Course</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
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 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
</div>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a349937b-102f-45bc-8e2b-14914805fb9f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/039dc3c8-039f-42ff-be4d-cc4f3945b8ba/Procuretech-ep-17-How-to-transition-to-a-role-in-Procuretech-An.mp3" length="26531574" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>No Code Procurement – Does it make sense to make vs. buy?</title><itunes:title>No Code Procurement – Does it make sense to make vs. buy?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of no-code procurement tools and generative AI.

James explores how these technologies enable teams to build custom applications and streamline processes without coding expertise.

Tune in to discover how no-code and AI technologies are transforming procurement, making simple and easy-to-use solutions accessible, especially to smaller and medium-sized organisations.
<h2>No Code Procurement: Is Make vs. Buy back on the table?</h2>
In this episode, James explores the rise of no-code procurement tools, enabling teams to create custom applications like savings trackers, performance management systems, contract repositories and vendor onboarding platforms without coding.

He highlights how tools like Airtable and Jotform enhance productivity through automation and digitalisation.

James also discusses the impact of generative AI and models like ChatGPT and Gemini, which provide advanced functionalities such as contract summarisation and clause extraction, previously accessible only through expensive software. These technologies allow small teams to efficiently manage procurement tasks.

By leveraging no-code tools and AI, procurement professionals can quickly develop solutions, track progress, and centralise resources, driving innovation and strategic goals. Tune in to discover how these technologies are transforming procurement, making advanced capabilities accessible to all organisations.

The question for you is this: could you now build your own apps now to get proof of concept, before asking Finance for a bigger procurement tech budget?
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:00] - No Code Procurement
[00:01:31] - The Evolution of Procurement Technology
[00:02:04] - The Rise of No Code Movement
[00:03:08] - Example: Procurement Software Database
[00:05:07] - Impact of Generative AI on Procurement
[00:06:32] - Seven Use Cases for No Code Tools in Procurement
[00:06:43] - Use Case 1: Savings and Performance Management
[00:07:58] - Use Case 2: Project Collaboration Tool
[00:09:02] - Use Case 3: Vendor Onboarding
[00:10:27] - Use Case 4: Simple Intake Requirements
[00:12:00] - Use Case 5: Contracts Repository
[00:13:35] - Use Case 6: Contract Collaboration Tool
[00:14:49] - Use Case 7: Procurement Learning and Resource Hub
[00:15:55] - Benefits of No Code Tools in Procurement
[00:16:39] - Call to Action and Conclusion

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of no-code procurement tools and generative AI.

James explores how these technologies enable teams to build custom applications and streamline processes without coding expertise.

Tune in to discover how no-code and AI technologies are transforming procurement, making simple and easy-to-use solutions accessible, especially to smaller and medium-sized organisations.
<h2>No Code Procurement: Is Make vs. Buy back on the table?</h2>
In this episode, James explores the rise of no-code procurement tools, enabling teams to create custom applications like savings trackers, performance management systems, contract repositories and vendor onboarding platforms without coding.

He highlights how tools like Airtable and Jotform enhance productivity through automation and digitalisation.

James also discusses the impact of generative AI and models like ChatGPT and Gemini, which provide advanced functionalities such as contract summarisation and clause extraction, previously accessible only through expensive software. These technologies allow small teams to efficiently manage procurement tasks.

By leveraging no-code tools and AI, procurement professionals can quickly develop solutions, track progress, and centralise resources, driving innovation and strategic goals. Tune in to discover how these technologies are transforming procurement, making advanced capabilities accessible to all organisations.

The question for you is this: could you now build your own apps now to get proof of concept, before asking Finance for a bigger procurement tech budget?
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:00] - No Code Procurement
[00:01:31] - The Evolution of Procurement Technology
[00:02:04] - The Rise of No Code Movement
[00:03:08] - Example: Procurement Software Database
[00:05:07] - Impact of Generative AI on Procurement
[00:06:32] - Seven Use Cases for No Code Tools in Procurement
[00:06:43] - Use Case 1: Savings and Performance Management
[00:07:58] - Use Case 2: Project Collaboration Tool
[00:09:02] - Use Case 3: Vendor Onboarding
[00:10:27] - Use Case 4: Simple Intake Requirements
[00:12:00] - Use Case 5: Contracts Repository
[00:13:35] - Use Case 6: Contract Collaboration Tool
[00:14:49] - Use Case 7: Procurement Learning and Resource Hub
[00:15:55] - Benefits of No Code Tools in Procurement
[00:16:39] - Call to Action and Conclusion

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">280c2e92-bffc-4b50-acec-0985ffa357d4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/731e6582-d7ae-46cc-927e-78e06997efb3/Procuretech-ep-16-No-Code-Procurement.mp3" length="18260052" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>18:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How to get ROI on Digital Transformation – Oliver Jones from Procure4</title><itunes:title>How to get ROI on Digital Transformation – Oliver Jones from Procure4</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads brings on guest Oliver Jones from Procure4, a UK-based procurement consultancy known for their focus on the mid-market and being solution agnostic.

Oliver shares insights and tips for effective procurement tech implementation, offering a unique perspective on the process.

Tune in to gain valuable knowledge on driving successful technology adoption in procurement.
<h2>How to get ROI on digital procurement transformation</h2>
In this episode, Oliver underscores the importance of communication and managing expectations during procurement technology implementation. He emphasises clear initial communication about the necessity for automation to improve supply performance, transparency, and visibility, aiding smoother stakeholder onboarding.

Oliver advocates for a phased, wave-based approach, promoting agility and continuous improvement through feedback. He highlights the need for diverse training formats like quick reference guides, drop-in sessions, and interactive workshops to boost user adoption.

Proper data management, including data cleansing and taxonomy creation, ensures accurate reporting and informed decision-making. The hypercare phase involves live usage, immediate assistance, and ongoing support, fostering continuous learning and proficiency. Establishing governance structures and appointing super users enhances this process.

Overall, the episode highlights key strategies for effective procurement technology implementation, driving long-term value and stakeholder buy-in.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:54] Procure4's Approach and Market Perspective
[00:05:26] Defining ROI in procurement tech.
[00:08:33] Building stakeholder relationships for success.
[00:11:58] Lazy approach to technology implementation.
[00:14:20] Commercial illiteracy in procurement.
[00:19:50] Potential banana skins during implementation.
[00:23:44] Data's role in process improvement.
[00:26:13] Ensuring good post-implementation practices.
[00:27:37] Utilising hypercare for software launch.
[00:32:09] Favourite guilty pleasure.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Oliver for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Oliver, Procure4, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-jones-mcips/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Oliver Jones on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.procure4.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procure4</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads brings on guest Oliver Jones from Procure4, a UK-based procurement consultancy known for their focus on the mid-market and being solution agnostic.

Oliver shares insights and tips for effective procurement tech implementation, offering a unique perspective on the process.

Tune in to gain valuable knowledge on driving successful technology adoption in procurement.
<h2>How to get ROI on digital procurement transformation</h2>
In this episode, Oliver underscores the importance of communication and managing expectations during procurement technology implementation. He emphasises clear initial communication about the necessity for automation to improve supply performance, transparency, and visibility, aiding smoother stakeholder onboarding.

Oliver advocates for a phased, wave-based approach, promoting agility and continuous improvement through feedback. He highlights the need for diverse training formats like quick reference guides, drop-in sessions, and interactive workshops to boost user adoption.

Proper data management, including data cleansing and taxonomy creation, ensures accurate reporting and informed decision-making. The hypercare phase involves live usage, immediate assistance, and ongoing support, fostering continuous learning and proficiency. Establishing governance structures and appointing super users enhances this process.

Overall, the episode highlights key strategies for effective procurement technology implementation, driving long-term value and stakeholder buy-in.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:54] Procure4's Approach and Market Perspective
[00:05:26] Defining ROI in procurement tech.
[00:08:33] Building stakeholder relationships for success.
[00:11:58] Lazy approach to technology implementation.
[00:14:20] Commercial illiteracy in procurement.
[00:19:50] Potential banana skins during implementation.
[00:23:44] Data's role in process improvement.
[00:26:13] Ensuring good post-implementation practices.
[00:27:37] Utilising hypercare for software launch.
[00:32:09] Favourite guilty pleasure.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Oliver for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Oliver, Procure4, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-jones-mcips/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Oliver Jones on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.procure4.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procure4</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a69269cf-809b-4969-bdf7-024c55afa9a0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b41b9650-bd59-4381-88b1-f8d28a0b96fd/Procuretech-ep-15-How-to-get-ROI-on-Digital-Transformation-Oliv.mp3" length="33082189" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>The 25 Hottest European Procurement Tech Startups</title><itunes:title>The 25 Hottest European Procurement Tech Startups</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of procurement tech startups. With over 440 solutions in our software directory over at app.procurementsoftware.site, we aim to educate procurement leaders on the vast array of software options available to them.

There's so much more out there than just the tired, legacy technology that seems to sponsor all of the conferences.

Highlighting 25 innovative European-based procurement startups, the episode provides valuable insights into emerging players who don't necessarily have the marketing presence and events budget of larger companies.

Tune in to discover how these startups are shaping the future of digital procurement.
<h2>The 25 Hottest European Procurement Tech Startups</h2>
In this episode, we spotlight 25 of the hottest European procurement tech startups.

We explore:
<ol>
 	<li>Apadua offers AI-powered sourcing solutions for professional services.</li>
 	<li>SpendKey simplifies spend analytics and contract data extraction with advanced machine learning capabilities.</li>
 	<li>Weproc is a SaaS eProcurement platform for SMEs, focused on user experience.</li>
 	<li>Mithra AI provides cognitive spend intelligence for mid-market businesses.</li>
 	<li>SpareTech delivers spare parts and MRO procurement management.</li>
 	<li>Thinking Machine automates telecoms procurement using machine learning.</li>
 	<li>TrueLedger manages real-time contract evaluation and management for professional services.</li>
 	<li>PivotApp is a cloud-based platform for procurement intake and spend management targeting growing tech companies and mid-market businesses.</li>
 	<li>DigiProc automates supplier negotiations for tactical and tail spend.</li>
 	<li>Alpas AI offers AI-driven supplier discovery and sourcing.</li>
 	<li>Canopy provides comprehensive vendor master data management.</li>
 	<li>Carbmee helps reduce carbon footprint through emissions analytics.</li>
 	<li>Daato consolidates ESG compliance and sustainability reporting.</li>
 	<li>MySupply offers AI-driven tactical sourcing and negotiation.</li>
 	<li>Lhotse automates procurement with MS Teams integration.</li>
 	<li>Vertice optimises SaaS procurement and cloud costs.</li>
 	<li>ivoflow provides AI-powered analytics for procurement in manufacturing businesses.</li>
 	<li>Supplios manages supplier relationships for direct spend.</li>
 	<li>Ctrl+s delivers sustainability and carbon tracking solutions for supply chain emissions.</li>
 	<li>Deployed simplifies drafting and managing statements of work.</li>
 	<li>Flowlity offers operations planning and inventory management.</li>
 	<li>forestreet delivers AI-powered market intelligence and vendor discovery.</li>
 	<li>ProcurementFlow provides no-code software for stakeholder collaboration.</li>
 	<li>akirolabs enables enterprise-wide category strategy collaboration with AI-driven insights.</li>
 	<li>Contingent assesses supplier risk and builds supply chain resilience.</li>
</ol><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of procurement tech startups. With over 440 solutions in our software directory over at app.procurementsoftware.site, we aim to educate procurement leaders on the vast array of software options available to them.

There's so much more out there than just the tired, legacy technology that seems to sponsor all of the conferences.

Highlighting 25 innovative European-based procurement startups, the episode provides valuable insights into emerging players who don't necessarily have the marketing presence and events budget of larger companies.

Tune in to discover how these startups are shaping the future of digital procurement.
<h2>The 25 Hottest European Procurement Tech Startups</h2>
In this episode, we spotlight 25 of the hottest European procurement tech startups.

We explore:
<ol>
 	<li>Apadua offers AI-powered sourcing solutions for professional services.</li>
 	<li>SpendKey simplifies spend analytics and contract data extraction with advanced machine learning capabilities.</li>
 	<li>Weproc is a SaaS eProcurement platform for SMEs, focused on user experience.</li>
 	<li>Mithra AI provides cognitive spend intelligence for mid-market businesses.</li>
 	<li>SpareTech delivers spare parts and MRO procurement management.</li>
 	<li>Thinking Machine automates telecoms procurement using machine learning.</li>
 	<li>TrueLedger manages real-time contract evaluation and management for professional services.</li>
 	<li>PivotApp is a cloud-based platform for procurement intake and spend management targeting growing tech companies and mid-market businesses.</li>
 	<li>DigiProc automates supplier negotiations for tactical and tail spend.</li>
 	<li>Alpas AI offers AI-driven supplier discovery and sourcing.</li>
 	<li>Canopy provides comprehensive vendor master data management.</li>
 	<li>Carbmee helps reduce carbon footprint through emissions analytics.</li>
 	<li>Daato consolidates ESG compliance and sustainability reporting.</li>
 	<li>MySupply offers AI-driven tactical sourcing and negotiation.</li>
 	<li>Lhotse automates procurement with MS Teams integration.</li>
 	<li>Vertice optimises SaaS procurement and cloud costs.</li>
 	<li>ivoflow provides AI-powered analytics for procurement in manufacturing businesses.</li>
 	<li>Supplios manages supplier relationships for direct spend.</li>
 	<li>Ctrl+s delivers sustainability and carbon tracking solutions for supply chain emissions.</li>
 	<li>Deployed simplifies drafting and managing statements of work.</li>
 	<li>Flowlity offers operations planning and inventory management.</li>
 	<li>forestreet delivers AI-powered market intelligence and vendor discovery.</li>
 	<li>ProcurementFlow provides no-code software for stakeholder collaboration.</li>
 	<li>akirolabs enables enterprise-wide category strategy collaboration with AI-driven insights.</li>
 	<li>Contingent assesses supplier risk and builds supply chain resilience.</li>
</ol><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">83b42dc0-9b37-4f6d-b30e-723c7476cb1c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1bfbe1b5-143f-4a50-bf47-6e4ded93753d/Procuretech-ep-14-The-25-Hottest-European-Procurement-Startups.mp3" length="37044417" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>The 25 Hottest American Procurement Tech Startups</title><itunes:title>The 25 Hottest American Procurement Tech Startups</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of procurement tech startups. With over 440 solutions in our software directory over at app.procurementsoftware.site, we aim to educate procurement leaders on the vast array of software options available to them.

There's so much more out there than just clunky, legacy technology.

Highlighting 25 innovative US-based procurement startups, the episode provides valuable insights into emerging players who don't necessarily have the marketing presence and events budget of larger companies.

Tune in to discover how these startups are shaping the future of digital procurement.
<h2>The 25 Hottest American Procurement Tech Startups</h2>
In this episode, we spotlight 25 of the hottest American procurement tech startups.

We explore
<ol>
 	<li>Focal Point offers intake, project management and procurement performance;</li>
 	<li>Lavenir AI offers ongoing, virtual negotiation training practice;</li>
 	<li>Raindrop is a complete spend management suite built on modern technology;</li>
 	<li>FRDM focuses on supply chain risk management;</li>
 	<li>LUPR leverages Salesforce data for SRM.</li>
 	<li>Part Analytics looks at direct materials and purchased parts for manufacturing businesses;</li>
 	<li>Ravacan enhances planning and inventory for manufacturing firms;</li>
 	<li>Requis specialises in capital equipment procurement and asset disposal;</li>
 	<li>Levelpath is an early stage startup simplifying procurement intake;</li>
 	<li>Altana uses AI for global trade solutions;</li>
 	<li>Graphite Systems looks at intake;</li>
 	<li>LightSource innovates in offering a user-friendly sourcing platform;</li>
 	<li>Opstream AI improves procurement intake and supplier discovery;</li>
 	<li>Varisource focuses on IT sourcing;</li>
 	<li>Planergy is a P2P solution for mid-sized businesses</li>
 	<li>Scalewith targets ESG and sustainability;</li>
 	<li>SaaSrooms manages SaaS spend;</li>
 	<li>Zapro offers comprehensive, affordable P2P for SMEs;</li>
 	<li>Zumen offers Source-to-Pay solutions for direct materials</li>
 	<li>e2Log looks at logistics procurement.</li>
 	<li>Control Hub offers comprehensive P2P and inventory management to mid-market</li>
 	<li>Lightyear focuses on telecoms spend</li>
 	<li>Leverage provides supply chain visibility</li>
 	<li>OpenEnvoy niches down on accounts payable</li>
 	<li>WorkSuite, last but not least, is a freelancer workforce management platform.</li>
</ol><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads dives into the world of procurement tech startups. With over 440 solutions in our software directory over at app.procurementsoftware.site, we aim to educate procurement leaders on the vast array of software options available to them.

There's so much more out there than just clunky, legacy technology.

Highlighting 25 innovative US-based procurement startups, the episode provides valuable insights into emerging players who don't necessarily have the marketing presence and events budget of larger companies.

Tune in to discover how these startups are shaping the future of digital procurement.
<h2>The 25 Hottest American Procurement Tech Startups</h2>
In this episode, we spotlight 25 of the hottest American procurement tech startups.

We explore
<ol>
 	<li>Focal Point offers intake, project management and procurement performance;</li>
 	<li>Lavenir AI offers ongoing, virtual negotiation training practice;</li>
 	<li>Raindrop is a complete spend management suite built on modern technology;</li>
 	<li>FRDM focuses on supply chain risk management;</li>
 	<li>LUPR leverages Salesforce data for SRM.</li>
 	<li>Part Analytics looks at direct materials and purchased parts for manufacturing businesses;</li>
 	<li>Ravacan enhances planning and inventory for manufacturing firms;</li>
 	<li>Requis specialises in capital equipment procurement and asset disposal;</li>
 	<li>Levelpath is an early stage startup simplifying procurement intake;</li>
 	<li>Altana uses AI for global trade solutions;</li>
 	<li>Graphite Systems looks at intake;</li>
 	<li>LightSource innovates in offering a user-friendly sourcing platform;</li>
 	<li>Opstream AI improves procurement intake and supplier discovery;</li>
 	<li>Varisource focuses on IT sourcing;</li>
 	<li>Planergy is a P2P solution for mid-sized businesses</li>
 	<li>Scalewith targets ESG and sustainability;</li>
 	<li>SaaSrooms manages SaaS spend;</li>
 	<li>Zapro offers comprehensive, affordable P2P for SMEs;</li>
 	<li>Zumen offers Source-to-Pay solutions for direct materials</li>
 	<li>e2Log looks at logistics procurement.</li>
 	<li>Control Hub offers comprehensive P2P and inventory management to mid-market</li>
 	<li>Lightyear focuses on telecoms spend</li>
 	<li>Leverage provides supply chain visibility</li>
 	<li>OpenEnvoy niches down on accounts payable</li>
 	<li>WorkSuite, last but not least, is a freelancer workforce management platform.</li>
</ol><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cb447470-2c7e-4f23-b449-73e02da0fdfd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b599c975-9154-45c9-93c4-84619f21cedb/Procuretech-ep-13-The-25-Hottest-American-Procurement-Startups.mp3" length="26809508" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Is your procurement software the problem, or is it your organisation?</title><itunes:title>Is your procurement software the problem, or is it your organisation?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores the challenges faced by organisations in adopting and utilising new software technologies.

James discusses an interesting article from The Guardian titled "Your Office Software Is Not the Problem, You Are," highlighting tensions around software usability and adaptability within large organisations.

Tune in as we explore these conflicting perspectives and provide insights on how both software providers and organisations can foster better software adoption and usability.
<h2>Is your procurement software the problem, or is it your organisation?</h2>
In this episode, we discuss the critical role of user experience and ease of implementation in the success of procurement software solutions. Poor user experience, marked by clunky interfaces and difficult navigation, can hinder adoption and lead to implementation failures. Software companies must prioritise creating intuitive platforms.

Additionally, the episode emphasises the importance of seamless implementation processes. Complex and lengthy setups deter user engagement. Effective software should be user-friendly from the start and require minimal training.

We also highlight the necessity of robust communication, training, and onboarding strategies. Engaging users through various formats, explaining the benefits, and providing bite-sized training materials can significantly enhance adoption rates.

Leaders play a crucial role by securing resources and advocating for budget allocation to support these initiatives. Prioritising these aspects can lead to a successful digital transformation within organisations.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:52] Office software usability debate.
[00:06:10] User-friendly software platforms.
[00:12:15] Effective software training methods.
[00:14:10] Digital transformation and procurement software.
[00:17:28] Software implementation challenges.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores the challenges faced by organisations in adopting and utilising new software technologies.

James discusses an interesting article from The Guardian titled "Your Office Software Is Not the Problem, You Are," highlighting tensions around software usability and adaptability within large organisations.

Tune in as we explore these conflicting perspectives and provide insights on how both software providers and organisations can foster better software adoption and usability.
<h2>Is your procurement software the problem, or is it your organisation?</h2>
In this episode, we discuss the critical role of user experience and ease of implementation in the success of procurement software solutions. Poor user experience, marked by clunky interfaces and difficult navigation, can hinder adoption and lead to implementation failures. Software companies must prioritise creating intuitive platforms.

Additionally, the episode emphasises the importance of seamless implementation processes. Complex and lengthy setups deter user engagement. Effective software should be user-friendly from the start and require minimal training.

We also highlight the necessity of robust communication, training, and onboarding strategies. Engaging users through various formats, explaining the benefits, and providing bite-sized training materials can significantly enhance adoption rates.

Leaders play a crucial role by securing resources and advocating for budget allocation to support these initiatives. Prioritising these aspects can lead to a successful digital transformation within organisations.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:01:52] Office software usability debate.
[00:06:10] User-friendly software platforms.
[00:12:15] Effective software training methods.
[00:14:10] Digital transformation and procurement software.
[00:17:28] Software implementation challenges.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">81cd02bb-8e7b-4654-be03-506eff2c37c3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a533e21a-389c-4ecc-95de-71e378acf6ad/Procuretech-ep-12-Poor-adoption-of-software-are-YOU-the-problem.mp3" length="20308990" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Are “digital skills” valued by CPOs? – Andrew Daley from EdburyDaley</title><itunes:title>Are “digital skills” valued by CPOs? – Andrew Daley from EdburyDaley</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads chats to guest Andrew Daley, a partner at EdburyDaley, a specialist recruitment firm in the UK.

Andrew sheds light on some of the differences between recruiting individuals for procurement tech companies, and how it differs from hiring for traditional procurement roles.

Tune in to gain insights into how technology is shaping the procurement profession and discover the tools to stay ahead in the game.
<h2>Are digital skills in procurement really valued by CPOs?</h2>
In this episode, Andrew Daley highlights the importance of digital skills for procurement professionals. He explains these skills are essential for leveraging technologies like AI, RPA, and cloud-based solutions. Digital literacy and technological proficiency in sourcing, risk management, and contract management are crucial.

Andrew stresses continuous learning and adaptation to stay competitive. He also discusses creating compelling job descriptions to attract quality candidates by highlighting unique aspects, career growth opportunities, and company values.

Additionally, Andrew underscores educating and motivating individuals about digital transformation's benefits. Overcoming past negative experiences with outdated systems is crucial. Continuous education and showcasing successful case studies encourage adopting new technologies, leading to efficiency, cost savings, and improved decision-making in procurement.

Overall, the episode emphasises digital skills' critical role and the need for continuous learning in procurement.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:05:05] Digital skills in procurement.
[00:07:23] Digital procurement skills definition.
[00:10:59] The potential of digital transformation.
[00:14:14] Skills for digital transformation.
[00:17:18] Digital procurement up-skilling opportunities.
[00:21:48] Impact of AI on jobs.
[00:25:51] Recruitment challenges and strategies.
[00:28:59] Crafting compelling job adverts.
[00:31:09] Hindering perceptions of digital transformation.
[00:33:55] Catalyst for improvement.
[00:38:34] Can procurement professionals transition?
[00:39:43] Is there really a war on talent.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Andrew for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Andrew, EdburyDaley, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edburydaleyandrew/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andrew Daley on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="http://www.edburydaley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EdburyDaley</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads chats to guest Andrew Daley, a partner at EdburyDaley, a specialist recruitment firm in the UK.

Andrew sheds light on some of the differences between recruiting individuals for procurement tech companies, and how it differs from hiring for traditional procurement roles.

Tune in to gain insights into how technology is shaping the procurement profession and discover the tools to stay ahead in the game.
<h2>Are digital skills in procurement really valued by CPOs?</h2>
In this episode, Andrew Daley highlights the importance of digital skills for procurement professionals. He explains these skills are essential for leveraging technologies like AI, RPA, and cloud-based solutions. Digital literacy and technological proficiency in sourcing, risk management, and contract management are crucial.

Andrew stresses continuous learning and adaptation to stay competitive. He also discusses creating compelling job descriptions to attract quality candidates by highlighting unique aspects, career growth opportunities, and company values.

Additionally, Andrew underscores educating and motivating individuals about digital transformation's benefits. Overcoming past negative experiences with outdated systems is crucial. Continuous education and showcasing successful case studies encourage adopting new technologies, leading to efficiency, cost savings, and improved decision-making in procurement.

Overall, the episode emphasises digital skills' critical role and the need for continuous learning in procurement.
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
[00:05:05] Digital skills in procurement.
[00:07:23] Digital procurement skills definition.
[00:10:59] The potential of digital transformation.
[00:14:14] Skills for digital transformation.
[00:17:18] Digital procurement up-skilling opportunities.
[00:21:48] Impact of AI on jobs.
[00:25:51] Recruitment challenges and strategies.
[00:28:59] Crafting compelling job adverts.
[00:31:09] Hindering perceptions of digital transformation.
[00:33:55] Catalyst for improvement.
[00:38:34] Can procurement professionals transition?
[00:39:43] Is there really a war on talent.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Andrew for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Andrew, EdburyDaley, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edburydaleyandrew/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andrew Daley on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="http://www.edburydaley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EdburyDaley</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1b8a84a0-f0ce-4381-a49f-8d9ad8707ac0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e6a2656a-383e-4eb4-be38-2a7472b68135/Procuretech-ep-11-Are-Digital-Skills-valued-by-CPOs-Andrew-Dale.mp3" length="39603144" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>How much does procurement tech actually cost?</title><itunes:title>How much does procurement tech actually cost?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores different price points for procurement technology applications.

James discusses software options costing less than $20,000 to $25,000 per year, those ranging from $25,000 to $75,000 annually, and higher-end solutions.

Tune in to discover what each price point can offer your procurement team and how to make the most of your tech budget.
<h2><strong>How much do digital procurement tools cost?</strong></h2>
In this episode, the focus is on the broad spectrum of procurement technology solutions available across various price ranges, catering to different organizational needs and budgets.

For those with a budget under $20,000 per year, niche-specific software designed for SMEs offers basic yet modern e-sourcing and spend analytics capabilities.

Mid-market organizations with a budget between $25,000 to $75,000 per year can access more comprehensive e-sourcing solutions, AI-powered spend analytics, and full-featured procure-to-pay software, along with supplier relationship management platforms.

For budgets exceeding $100,000 per year, top-tier procurement technologies become available, including full e-sourcing suites, advanced spend analytics, complete source-to-contract suites, and AI-powered automation for tactical and tail spend.

The episode emphasises the importance of aligning procurement technology investments with organisational budgets and the need to enhance procurement processes and drive digital transformation within the procurement function.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:24] Procurement tech on a budget.
[00:05:05] Accounts payable workflow automation.
[00:06:19] Procurement Tech for $25,000 to $75,000 per Year
[00:09:00] Premier League of procurement technology.
[00:12:08] Digital procurement introduction.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores different price points for procurement technology applications.

James discusses software options costing less than $20,000 to $25,000 per year, those ranging from $25,000 to $75,000 annually, and higher-end solutions.

Tune in to discover what each price point can offer your procurement team and how to make the most of your tech budget.
<h2><strong>How much do digital procurement tools cost?</strong></h2>
In this episode, the focus is on the broad spectrum of procurement technology solutions available across various price ranges, catering to different organizational needs and budgets.

For those with a budget under $20,000 per year, niche-specific software designed for SMEs offers basic yet modern e-sourcing and spend analytics capabilities.

Mid-market organizations with a budget between $25,000 to $75,000 per year can access more comprehensive e-sourcing solutions, AI-powered spend analytics, and full-featured procure-to-pay software, along with supplier relationship management platforms.

For budgets exceeding $100,000 per year, top-tier procurement technologies become available, including full e-sourcing suites, advanced spend analytics, complete source-to-contract suites, and AI-powered automation for tactical and tail spend.

The episode emphasises the importance of aligning procurement technology investments with organisational budgets and the need to enhance procurement processes and drive digital transformation within the procurement function.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:24] Procurement tech on a budget.
[00:05:05] Accounts payable workflow automation.
[00:06:19] Procurement Tech for $25,000 to $75,000 per Year
[00:09:00] Premier League of procurement technology.
[00:12:08] Digital procurement introduction.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6deb1158-aa06-452b-9245-c8442c546059</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/46a73fa3-b526-4b15-ab52-4f06d7aae23a/Procuretech-ep-10-How-much-does-typical-procurement-tech-cost.mp3" length="12403761" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Which tech would I buy first in a greenfield Head of Procurement role?</title><itunes:title>Which tech would I buy first in a greenfield Head of Procurement role?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, we delve into the topic of selecting technology in a greenfield procurement role.

Host James explores what technology he would invest in if given the opportunity to lead a digital transformation in procurement.

Join us for a deep dive into the world of procurement technology and decision-making.
<h2><strong>What digital procurement tools should you buy first?</strong></h2>
In this podcast episode, the importance of incorporating spend analytics software into procurement is highlighted as a means to gain insights and enhance value within the function.

Advances in AI and machine learning have made these tools more efficient, allowing procurement teams to focus on strategic activities.

The episode also discusses the benefits of using procure-to-pay and source-to-pay platforms to streamline processes, reduce administrative burdens, and enable procurement professionals to concentrate on value-driven tasks.

Furthermore, the adoption of niche category-specific tools tailored to the organization's unique needs and challenges is advocated for more efficient procurement processes and cost savings.

Overall, the episode emphasizes the critical role of technology in optimizing procurement operations, driving strategic decision-making, and achieving procurement excellence.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:48] Greenfield procurement technology investments
[00:04:32] Technological advancements in spend analytics
[00:05:30] Importance of Spend Analytics
[00:08:41] Procurement team efficiency strategies
[00:13:12] Niche category specific tools
[00:15:10] Focus on Category-Specific Tools and Solutions
[00:16:01] Eliminate, automate, delegate for efficiency

And that wraps up another episode of the show.

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, we delve into the topic of selecting technology in a greenfield procurement role.

Host James explores what technology he would invest in if given the opportunity to lead a digital transformation in procurement.

Join us for a deep dive into the world of procurement technology and decision-making.
<h2><strong>What digital procurement tools should you buy first?</strong></h2>
In this podcast episode, the importance of incorporating spend analytics software into procurement is highlighted as a means to gain insights and enhance value within the function.

Advances in AI and machine learning have made these tools more efficient, allowing procurement teams to focus on strategic activities.

The episode also discusses the benefits of using procure-to-pay and source-to-pay platforms to streamline processes, reduce administrative burdens, and enable procurement professionals to concentrate on value-driven tasks.

Furthermore, the adoption of niche category-specific tools tailored to the organization's unique needs and challenges is advocated for more efficient procurement processes and cost savings.

Overall, the episode emphasizes the critical role of technology in optimizing procurement operations, driving strategic decision-making, and achieving procurement excellence.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:48] Greenfield procurement technology investments
[00:04:32] Technological advancements in spend analytics
[00:05:30] Importance of Spend Analytics
[00:08:41] Procurement team efficiency strategies
[00:13:12] Niche category specific tools
[00:15:10] Focus on Category-Specific Tools and Solutions
[00:16:01] Eliminate, automate, delegate for efficiency

And that wraps up another episode of the show.

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">433b6a34-4156-449d-8964-a05137e8af4f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fcf0bb67-706a-4730-b709-a4bc9ae5a85f/Procuretech-ep-9-What-tech-would-I-buy-in-a-greenfield-role.mp3" length="16888878" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI Use Cases and Opportunities in S2P – Ward Karson from Raindrop</title><itunes:title>AI Use Cases and Opportunities in S2P – Ward Karson from Raindrop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes back Ward Karson, COO of Raindrop. They discuss how AI applications in source-to-pay technology can be confusing, and how organisations can best navigate the vast array of solutions available.

Ward, a veteran procurement professional, shares valuable insights to help listeners stay ahead in the ever-evolving procurement landscape.

Tune in for expert advice on embracing change and ensuring that new, cutting edge developments in procurement and not confused with old technology masquerading as the new.
<h2>AI in Source-to-Pay: Use cases and opportunities</h2>
In the latest episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, Ward Karson, COO of Raindrop, returned to discuss the transformative impact of AI on the source-to-pay space

Ward discusses how generative AI is a game-changer versus traditional AI and other types of machine learning and process automation. The conversation highlighted the shift from traditional technologies like RPA (Robotic Process Automation) and OCR (Optical Character Recognition) to advanced AI, including generative AI, exemplified by tools like ChatGPT. Ward clarified that while RPA is process-focused, AI leverages data and generative AI can autonomously create content such as contracts.

Ward stressed the necessity of mastering basic procurement operations before advancing to more complex technologies. He showcased how modern Source-to-Pay (S2P) suites like Raindrop enhance efficiency, cut operational costs, and minimise administrative tasks, potentially rendering Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) in transactional services obsolete to some extent.

The conversation also explores the business case of choosing BPO vs. technology, and how to present the numbers in order to get the political capital required to be given the budgets.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:48] Greenfield procurement technology investments
[00:04:32] Technological advancements in spend analytics
[00:05:30] Importance of Spend Analytics
[00:08:41] Procurement team efficiency strategies
[00:13:12] Niche category specific tools
[00:15:10] Focus on Category-Specific Tools and Solutions
[00:16:01] Eliminate, automate, delegate for efficiency

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ward Karson on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[On this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James welcomes back Ward Karson, COO of Raindrop. They discuss how AI applications in source-to-pay technology can be confusing, and how organisations can best navigate the vast array of solutions available.

Ward, a veteran procurement professional, shares valuable insights to help listeners stay ahead in the ever-evolving procurement landscape.

Tune in for expert advice on embracing change and ensuring that new, cutting edge developments in procurement and not confused with old technology masquerading as the new.
<h2>AI in Source-to-Pay: Use cases and opportunities</h2>
In the latest episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, Ward Karson, COO of Raindrop, returned to discuss the transformative impact of AI on the source-to-pay space

Ward discusses how generative AI is a game-changer versus traditional AI and other types of machine learning and process automation. The conversation highlighted the shift from traditional technologies like RPA (Robotic Process Automation) and OCR (Optical Character Recognition) to advanced AI, including generative AI, exemplified by tools like ChatGPT. Ward clarified that while RPA is process-focused, AI leverages data and generative AI can autonomously create content such as contracts.

Ward stressed the necessity of mastering basic procurement operations before advancing to more complex technologies. He showcased how modern Source-to-Pay (S2P) suites like Raindrop enhance efficiency, cut operational costs, and minimise administrative tasks, potentially rendering Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) in transactional services obsolete to some extent.

The conversation also explores the business case of choosing BPO vs. technology, and how to present the numbers in order to get the political capital required to be given the budgets.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:48] Greenfield procurement technology investments
[00:04:32] Technological advancements in spend analytics
[00:05:30] Importance of Spend Analytics
[00:08:41] Procurement team efficiency strategies
[00:13:12] Niche category specific tools
[00:15:10] Focus on Category-Specific Tools and Solutions
[00:16:01] Eliminate, automate, delegate for efficiency

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ward Karson on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">09d256a4-ec4f-47d4-8868-d642a1f3ae6b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ba1ea9db-bd0c-4268-8e16-4c1f769693b9/Procuretech-ep-8-AI-Use-Cases-in-the-S2P-Process-Ward-Karson-fr.mp3" length="31874827" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Why are reviews and “best of” lists not very helpful?</title><itunes:title>Why are reviews and “best of” lists not very helpful?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the topic of why reviews and best-of lists may not be as helpful as they seem when choosing procurement software.

The episode also touches on the lack of transparency in some top procurement tech listings, cautioning listeners to be wary of sponsored content.

Tune in to gain insights on navigating the complex landscape of procurement software selection.
<h2><strong>Why Procurement Software reviews are of limited use</strong></h2>
This episode underscores the importance of a critical approach when considering reviews and best-of lists for procurement software.

It stresses that the criteria used in reviews might not always align with an organisation's specific needs, given the diversity in procurement maturity and operational requirements.

The episode further highlights the significance of the reviewer's role within their company, suggesting that feedback from daily users like procurement category managers is more valuable than that from analyst firms.

Additionally, the size and maturity of one's organisation are crucial factors to consider, as a solution fit for a large, mature enterprise may not suit a mid-market business or a growing tech start-up.

The episode concludes by advocating for a nuanced evaluation of procurement software, taking into account the criteria used in reviews, the user's role, and the organisation's size and maturity level, to make informed decisions that best serve an organisation's unique procurement needs.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] The Problem with Reviews and Best-of Lists
[00:01:10] Personal Experiences and Organisational Differences
[00:03:20] Relevance of Reviews from Large Enterprises
[00:04:24] The Bias Towards Large Enterprise in Best-of Lists
[00:05:08] Considerations When Looking at Procurement Software Reviews
[00:07:37] Procurement Maturity and Organisational Stages
[00:08:10] Impact of Change Management and Data Quality
[00:09:04] Summary and Critical Mindset Towards Reviews
[00:11:22] Conclusion and Takeaways

And that's a wrap for another episode of the show.

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the topic of why reviews and best-of lists may not be as helpful as they seem when choosing procurement software.

The episode also touches on the lack of transparency in some top procurement tech listings, cautioning listeners to be wary of sponsored content.

Tune in to gain insights on navigating the complex landscape of procurement software selection.
<h2><strong>Why Procurement Software reviews are of limited use</strong></h2>
This episode underscores the importance of a critical approach when considering reviews and best-of lists for procurement software.

It stresses that the criteria used in reviews might not always align with an organisation's specific needs, given the diversity in procurement maturity and operational requirements.

The episode further highlights the significance of the reviewer's role within their company, suggesting that feedback from daily users like procurement category managers is more valuable than that from analyst firms.

Additionally, the size and maturity of one's organisation are crucial factors to consider, as a solution fit for a large, mature enterprise may not suit a mid-market business or a growing tech start-up.

The episode concludes by advocating for a nuanced evaluation of procurement software, taking into account the criteria used in reviews, the user's role, and the organisation's size and maturity level, to make informed decisions that best serve an organisation's unique procurement needs.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] The Problem with Reviews and Best-of Lists
[00:01:10] Personal Experiences and Organisational Differences
[00:03:20] Relevance of Reviews from Large Enterprises
[00:04:24] The Bias Towards Large Enterprise in Best-of Lists
[00:05:08] Considerations When Looking at Procurement Software Reviews
[00:07:37] Procurement Maturity and Organisational Stages
[00:08:10] Impact of Change Management and Data Quality
[00:09:04] Summary and Critical Mindset Towards Reviews
[00:11:22] Conclusion and Takeaways

And that's a wrap for another episode of the show.

Thanks again for listening, and do please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or rate us on Spotify. Every one helps!

We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1e1afa86-8df3-4af3-ae3c-7dbe8e9e5ed0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a74700f2-f5e0-49dd-9a12-7053cf3a1c48/Procuretech-ep-7-Why-are-reviews-and-best-of-lists-not-very-hel.mp3" length="11731269" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>What roles would I have in my dream procurement team?</title><itunes:title>What roles would I have in my dream procurement team?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James delves into the concept of creating the ideal procurement team by combining human expertise with technology.

Emphasizing the importance of leveraging existing resources without expecting additional budget, the episode explores ways to maximize the efficiency and effectiveness of a procurement team and its wage bill.

Join the discussion on how to merge human talent with technological advancements to elevate procurement's efficiency and added value to new heights.
<h2><strong>Building a procurement team that's fit for 2030</strong></h2>
This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast explores the concept of optimising a procurement team by integrating human expertise with technology.

James suggests restructuring the team to focus on strategic tasks by reducing category managers and introducing roles such as procurement business partners, data scientists, analysts, and admin assistants.

This shift allows the team to delegate routine tasks to technology, enabling a focus on value-added activities.

The episode highlights the importance of data analysis in procurement, advocating for a data scientist's role to leverage data for informed decision-making and process optimisation.

Additionally, the host discusses the significance of investing in procurement technology, like spend analytics and procure-to-pay software, to easily identify savings opportunities, automate processes and facilitate self-service for stakeholders.

This strategic combination of human and machine capabilities is presented as a way to create a more efficient and effective procurement team, driving value and enhancing productivity within the organisation.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] Dream Procurement Team Concept
[00:01:09] Budget Constraints and Assumptions
[00:02:01] Current Team and Salary Structure
[00:03:17] Rethinking the Category Management Team
[00:04:19] Reducing Category Managers and Allocating Budget
[00:05:02] Introducing a Procurement Business Partner
[00:05:57] The Importance of a Data Scientist
[00:06:51] Adding an Analyst to the Team
[00:07:54] Hiring an Admin Assistant with Marketing Skills
[00:08:59] Final Team Composition and Headcount
[00:10:47] Allocating Budget for Procurement Technology

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on The Procurement Software Podcast, host James delves into the concept of creating the ideal procurement team by combining human expertise with technology.

Emphasizing the importance of leveraging existing resources without expecting additional budget, the episode explores ways to maximize the efficiency and effectiveness of a procurement team and its wage bill.

Join the discussion on how to merge human talent with technological advancements to elevate procurement's efficiency and added value to new heights.
<h2><strong>Building a procurement team that's fit for 2030</strong></h2>
This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast explores the concept of optimising a procurement team by integrating human expertise with technology.

James suggests restructuring the team to focus on strategic tasks by reducing category managers and introducing roles such as procurement business partners, data scientists, analysts, and admin assistants.

This shift allows the team to delegate routine tasks to technology, enabling a focus on value-added activities.

The episode highlights the importance of data analysis in procurement, advocating for a data scientist's role to leverage data for informed decision-making and process optimisation.

Additionally, the host discusses the significance of investing in procurement technology, like spend analytics and procure-to-pay software, to easily identify savings opportunities, automate processes and facilitate self-service for stakeholders.

This strategic combination of human and machine capabilities is presented as a way to create a more efficient and effective procurement team, driving value and enhancing productivity within the organisation.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] Dream Procurement Team Concept
[00:01:09] Budget Constraints and Assumptions
[00:02:01] Current Team and Salary Structure
[00:03:17] Rethinking the Category Management Team
[00:04:19] Reducing Category Managers and Allocating Budget
[00:05:02] Introducing a Procurement Business Partner
[00:05:57] The Importance of a Data Scientist
[00:06:51] Adding an Analyst to the Team
[00:07:54] Hiring an Admin Assistant with Marketing Skills
[00:08:59] Final Team Composition and Headcount
[00:10:47] Allocating Budget for Procurement Technology

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">eeafa963-4b46-4b1d-ad71-235a9deba1f7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6f5de7fb-af88-47ae-b177-e44ed409e7b5/Procuretech-ep-6-What-would-my-dream-procurement-team-look-like.mp3" length="13492963" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>13:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Invoice automation: back to basics – Kevin Kazenmeyer from TradeCentric</title><itunes:title>Invoice automation: back to basics – Kevin Kazenmeyer from TradeCentric</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores invoice automation's efficiency in reducing invoicing time and tackling employee retention issues.

Guest Kevin Kazenmeyer from Tradecentric shares insights on channel development, and transitioning from procurement to a supplier role.

Tune in and discover how technology such as invoice automation enhances procurement efficiency.
<h2><strong>Accounts payable automation isn't sexy but it's key</strong></h2>
This episode delved into the transformative impact of invoice automation.

With a rich background in procurement and e-commerce solutions, Kevin highlighted how automating the invoicing process can address bottlenecks in accounts payable and improve employee retention. It does this by minimizing mundane tasks.

Despite a 65% satisfaction rate among Coupa users with their procurement systems, a survey revealed that a third still experience invoicing challenges, underscoring the need for focused automation efforts.

Kevin emphasized the critical role of collaboration between procurement and finance departments in the successful adoption of technology.

He shared success stories, including Mars Veterinary Health's operational improvements through automation, illustrating the broader benefits of investing in supplier connections.

Concluding the episode, it was evident that invoice automation offers a straightforward yet significant way to enhance procurement processes, providing a quick ROI and helping to retain skilled employees by shifting their focus from repetitive tasks to more strategic activities.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:08] Introducing Kevin Kazenmeyer of TradeCentric
[00:05:23] Invoice automation challenges
[00:08:06] Siloed Procurement and Finance
[00:14:14] Procurement vs. Finance Perspective
[00:18:07] Fixing challenges in accounts payable
[00:19:52] Employee turnover and engagement incentives
[00:24:23] Procurement as profit centre
[00:27:03] Investing in spend management
[00:31:44] Invoice automation

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Kevin for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Kevin, TradeCentric or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-k-2311a45/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kevin Kazenmeyer on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://tradecentric.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">TradeCentric</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads explores invoice automation's efficiency in reducing invoicing time and tackling employee retention issues.

Guest Kevin Kazenmeyer from Tradecentric shares insights on channel development, and transitioning from procurement to a supplier role.

Tune in and discover how technology such as invoice automation enhances procurement efficiency.
<h2><strong>Accounts payable automation isn't sexy but it's key</strong></h2>
This episode delved into the transformative impact of invoice automation.

With a rich background in procurement and e-commerce solutions, Kevin highlighted how automating the invoicing process can address bottlenecks in accounts payable and improve employee retention. It does this by minimizing mundane tasks.

Despite a 65% satisfaction rate among Coupa users with their procurement systems, a survey revealed that a third still experience invoicing challenges, underscoring the need for focused automation efforts.

Kevin emphasized the critical role of collaboration between procurement and finance departments in the successful adoption of technology.

He shared success stories, including Mars Veterinary Health's operational improvements through automation, illustrating the broader benefits of investing in supplier connections.

Concluding the episode, it was evident that invoice automation offers a straightforward yet significant way to enhance procurement processes, providing a quick ROI and helping to retain skilled employees by shifting their focus from repetitive tasks to more strategic activities.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:08] Introducing Kevin Kazenmeyer of TradeCentric
[00:05:23] Invoice automation challenges
[00:08:06] Siloed Procurement and Finance
[00:14:14] Procurement vs. Finance Perspective
[00:18:07] Fixing challenges in accounts payable
[00:19:52] Employee turnover and engagement incentives
[00:24:23] Procurement as profit centre
[00:27:03] Investing in spend management
[00:31:44] Invoice automation

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Kevin for sharing his insights with us today, and thank you again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Kevin, TradeCentric or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-k-2311a45/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kevin Kazenmeyer on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://tradecentric.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">TradeCentric</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0cf4329d-c4d8-4f27-a3e9-10dbb344a3c4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ed59a63a-3a6c-4e27-9bd2-769f29363332/Procuretech-ep-5-Kevin-Kazenmeyer-TradeCentric.mp3" length="31303859" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Will AI-powered procurement tools make our roles irrelevant?</title><itunes:title>Will AI-powered procurement tools make our roles irrelevant?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the topic of whether AI could make procurement as a profession irrelevant.

The discussion highlights the significance of embracing generative AI, despite privacy and confidentiality concerns.

Tune in to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of procurement technology.
<h2><strong>What impact will AI in procurement have on jobs?</strong></h2>
This podcast episode delves into the significant impact of generative AI technologies like ChatGPT on the procurement sector, particularly in automating routine tasks traditionally managed by procurement personnel.

It highlights the efficiency gains from AI in drafting legal documents and managing transactional activities, which could make certain roles obsolete.

The discussion points out the risk for organizations that lag in adopting AI, potentially losing a competitive edge and failing to attract skilled professionals.

Despite AI's advancements, the episode emphasizes the enduring importance of human skills in strategic procurement areas where AI cannot replicate the nuanced human touch, such as in stakeholder management and supplier relationships.

The future of procurement is envisioned as more strategic, with professionals focusing on value-added activities, supported by AI for routine tasks. Procurement professionals are advised to enhance their soft skills and strategic capabilities, in order to remain relevant in this evolving AI-driven landscape.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:44] The Role of Generative AI in Procurement
[00:02:49] AI's Influence on Recruitment and Efficiency
[00:04:37] Real-world Application of ChatGPT in Procurement
[00:05:52] The Future of Procurement Technology
[00:06:14] AI's Effect on Tactical and Operational Procurement
[00:10:55] Human Element in Strategic Procurement
[00:11:18] The Future of Procurement Roles
[00:12:21] Career Development in the Age of AI
[00:14:30] The Return of Administrative Roles
[00:15:43] Final Thoughts on AI and Procurement

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads delves into the topic of whether AI could make procurement as a profession irrelevant.

The discussion highlights the significance of embracing generative AI, despite privacy and confidentiality concerns.

Tune in to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of procurement technology.
<h2><strong>What impact will AI in procurement have on jobs?</strong></h2>
This podcast episode delves into the significant impact of generative AI technologies like ChatGPT on the procurement sector, particularly in automating routine tasks traditionally managed by procurement personnel.

It highlights the efficiency gains from AI in drafting legal documents and managing transactional activities, which could make certain roles obsolete.

The discussion points out the risk for organizations that lag in adopting AI, potentially losing a competitive edge and failing to attract skilled professionals.

Despite AI's advancements, the episode emphasizes the enduring importance of human skills in strategic procurement areas where AI cannot replicate the nuanced human touch, such as in stakeholder management and supplier relationships.

The future of procurement is envisioned as more strategic, with professionals focusing on value-added activities, supported by AI for routine tasks. Procurement professionals are advised to enhance their soft skills and strategic capabilities, in order to remain relevant in this evolving AI-driven landscape.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:44] The Role of Generative AI in Procurement
[00:02:49] AI's Influence on Recruitment and Efficiency
[00:04:37] Real-world Application of ChatGPT in Procurement
[00:05:52] The Future of Procurement Technology
[00:06:14] AI's Effect on Tactical and Operational Procurement
[00:10:55] Human Element in Strategic Procurement
[00:11:18] The Future of Procurement Roles
[00:12:21] Career Development in the Age of AI
[00:14:30] The Return of Administrative Roles
[00:15:43] Final Thoughts on AI and Procurement

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6d6f81ca-e9da-4e33-82ff-0895140f796d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9f909b6c-8f03-4bb3-827c-8aacd0237e2f/Procuretech-ep-4-Could-AI-make-procurement-irrelvant.mp3" length="17062742" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>SAP Ariba and Coupa marketplaces: last ditch attempt or game changer?</title><itunes:title>SAP Ariba and Coupa marketplaces: last ditch attempt or game changer?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into the debate surrounding the marketplace functionalities introduced by SAP Ariba and Coupa.

Host James Meads discusses whether these launches are a desperate attempt to retain market share, or a very smart, strategic move.

Tune in to gain insights into the evolving landscape of procurement technology.
<h2><strong>Will SAP Ariba and Coupa marketplaces be successful?</strong></h2>
This podcast episode examines SAP Ariba and Coupa's strategic use of marketplaces to maintain their market share amidst rising competition in the procurement tech sector. By integrating third-party applications, these platforms enhance customer retention, making it less appealing for users to switch to newer, more agile solutions.

The marketplaces not only serve as a defence mechanism against customer defection due to factors like resistance to change and high switching costs. They also act as a new revenue stream, strengthening their business models.

However, the appeal of these marketplaces might be limited for new companies starting their digital transformation, who may prefer more flexible and cost-effective solutions.

The episode also discusses how partnerships and alliances between various point solutions could offer a more adaptable and tailored approach to procurement technology, presenting a viable alternative to traditional, monolithic platforms for companies seeking to optimise their procurement processes.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] Big software suites debate.
[00:05:30] Rise of best-of-breed solutions and impact on traditional suites
[00:08:10] Marketplaces as superpower.
[00:09:13] Marketplaces driving market leadership.
[00:15:09] Modular suite-based products versus legacy platforms.
[00:17:19] The future of marketplaces.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This episode of The Procurement Software Podcast delves into the debate surrounding the marketplace functionalities introduced by SAP Ariba and Coupa.

Host James Meads discusses whether these launches are a desperate attempt to retain market share, or a very smart, strategic move.

Tune in to gain insights into the evolving landscape of procurement technology.
<h2><strong>Will SAP Ariba and Coupa marketplaces be successful?</strong></h2>
This podcast episode examines SAP Ariba and Coupa's strategic use of marketplaces to maintain their market share amidst rising competition in the procurement tech sector. By integrating third-party applications, these platforms enhance customer retention, making it less appealing for users to switch to newer, more agile solutions.

The marketplaces not only serve as a defence mechanism against customer defection due to factors like resistance to change and high switching costs. They also act as a new revenue stream, strengthening their business models.

However, the appeal of these marketplaces might be limited for new companies starting their digital transformation, who may prefer more flexible and cost-effective solutions.

The episode also discusses how partnerships and alliances between various point solutions could offer a more adaptable and tailored approach to procurement technology, presenting a viable alternative to traditional, monolithic platforms for companies seeking to optimise their procurement processes.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:37] Big software suites debate.
[00:05:30] Rise of best-of-breed solutions and impact on traditional suites
[00:08:10] Marketplaces as superpower.
[00:09:13] Marketplaces driving market leadership.
[00:15:09] Modular suite-based products versus legacy platforms.
[00:17:19] The future of marketplaces.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks again for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">86b98a6e-818a-4484-95e0-8dfff0a86ba5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ff9413ca-762e-4e38-9b97-dbc0c77071bb/Procuretech-ep-3-SAP-Ariba-and-Coupa-Marketplaces-too-little-to.mp3" length="19710948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Intake to Procure to Pay – Rujul Zaparde from ZIP</title><itunes:title>Intake to Procure to Pay – Rujul Zaparde from ZIP</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads interviews Rujul Zaparde, founder and CEO of Zip. They discuss the importance of embracing modernisation and digitisation in procurement.

Rujul shares insights on how to effectively allocate a budget for driving change within the function, highlighting the significance of control and visibility over spend in today's procurement landscape.

Tune in for valuable tips on leveraging technology to transform procurement processes and stay ahead in the ever-evolving industry.
<h2><strong>Will Intake-to-Procure replace Source-to-Pay? </strong></h2>
In this podcast episode, the spotlight is on Zip's innovative approach to enhancing <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="15">procurement processes through a user-friendly intake</a> platform. Founded by Rujul, Zip aims to revolutionise procurement by making it more accessible and intuitive from the very start.

The platform is designed to be the first point of contact in procurement, requiring minimal training due to its simplicity and user-centric design. Rujul emphasises the importance of early engagement in procurement to streamline request management, competitive bidding, and spending control. Zip's commitment to a seamless user experience, inspired by consumer tech, promises to tackle the traditional challenges of software adoption in procurement.

The company not only offers a practical intake solution but also supports customers with implementation and best practices. By working in tandem with legacy systems like SAP, Zip enhances user experiences and encourages broader adoption. Central to Zip's ethos is a relentless focus on user research and feedback, ensuring the platform evolves to meet user needs, thereby driving innovation and customer satisfaction in the procurement software market.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:41] Introducing Rujul Zaparde of ZIP
[00:02:43] Starting with intake for procurement
[00:04:27] Intake to pay
[00:07:46] User experience in procurement
[00:11:11] User experience
[00:14:19] Product led company philosophy
[00:19:06] Procurement challenges across industries
[00:20:11] Collaboration vs. Competition
[00:24:17] Challenges and opportunities at Zip
[00:26:27] Understanding end user experiences

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Rujul for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Rujul, ZIP or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rujulz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Rujul Zaparde on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://ziphq.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZIP</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads interviews Rujul Zaparde, founder and CEO of Zip. They discuss the importance of embracing modernisation and digitisation in procurement.

Rujul shares insights on how to effectively allocate a budget for driving change within the function, highlighting the significance of control and visibility over spend in today's procurement landscape.

Tune in for valuable tips on leveraging technology to transform procurement processes and stay ahead in the ever-evolving industry.
<h2><strong>Will Intake-to-Procure replace Source-to-Pay? </strong></h2>
In this podcast episode, the spotlight is on Zip's innovative approach to enhancing <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="15">procurement processes through a user-friendly intake</a> platform. Founded by Rujul, Zip aims to revolutionise procurement by making it more accessible and intuitive from the very start.

The platform is designed to be the first point of contact in procurement, requiring minimal training due to its simplicity and user-centric design. Rujul emphasises the importance of early engagement in procurement to streamline request management, competitive bidding, and spending control. Zip's commitment to a seamless user experience, inspired by consumer tech, promises to tackle the traditional challenges of software adoption in procurement.

The company not only offers a practical intake solution but also supports customers with implementation and best practices. By working in tandem with legacy systems like SAP, Zip enhances user experiences and encourages broader adoption. Central to Zip's ethos is a relentless focus on user research and feedback, ensuring the platform evolves to meet user needs, thereby driving innovation and customer satisfaction in the procurement software market.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:00:41] Introducing Rujul Zaparde of ZIP
[00:02:43] Starting with intake for procurement
[00:04:27] Intake to pay
[00:07:46] User experience in procurement
[00:11:11] User experience
[00:14:19] Product led company philosophy
[00:19:06] Procurement challenges across industries
[00:20:11] Collaboration vs. Competition
[00:24:17] Challenges and opportunities at Zip
[00:26:27] Understanding end user experiences

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Rujul for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Rujul, ZIP or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rujulz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Rujul Zaparde on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://ziphq.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ZIP</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5bdd7d44-df6b-47df-85c2-d36c98610b01</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fd3e73b9-dc4c-41bc-9ee7-4e2890622882/Procuretech-ep-2-Rujul-Zaparde.mp3" length="28121554" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>The business case: how to get a budget for procurement tech</title><itunes:title>The business case: how to get a budget for procurement tech</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads announces the rebranding of the podcast and explains the reasons behind it.

Initially launched as The Procuretech Podcast, the show has evolved over the years and now aligns with the procurementsoftware.site brand.

Tune in to stay updated and inspired by the exciting developments in the field.
<h2>How to get a budget for procurement tech</h2>
This episode delves into the evolving procurement technology market, highlighting a trend towards niche solutions tailored to specific industries and geographies, driven by the unique procurement needs across sectors and regions. Companies are now focusing on developing specialised tools to address particular industry challenges, thereby enabling organisations to select technology that closely aligns with their requirements. This shift towards customisation is leading to better technology adoption and effectiveness.

The episode also emphasises the importance of starting with the "why" when developing a business case for ProcureTech, advising to focus on addressing the most significant challenges within procurement processes. It draws on Simon Sinek's principle of understanding the purpose behind actions, suggesting that identifying key pain points can guide the selection of targeted solutions. Furthermore, the podcast advocates for a value-driven approach over merely cost-saving, urging consideration of technology's impact on both the top and bottom lines.

Moreover, the podcast outlines various factors justifying ProcureTech investment, including cost savings through streamlined processes, risk management in complex supply chains, enhanced supplier relationship management, and the promotion of sustainability initiatives. It also touches on financial optimisation by automating tasks and potentially reallocating or reducing personnel, highlighting the multifaceted benefits of investing in procurement technology.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:10] Rebranding the podcast.
[00:05:13] Funding challenges in procurement tech.
[00:08:12] Intake category and its impact.
[00:14:28] Companies' approach to procurement.
[00:15:21] Best of breed solutions.
[00:19:19] Due diligence on IT suppliers.
[00:23:15] Supply chain disruption and risk.
[00:27:30-00:27:40] CO2 emissions measurement in procurement.
[00:31:01] Giving up salary for tech.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Graham for being a great interviewer, James for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about CASME, Graham Crawshaw, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcrawshaw/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Graham Crawshaw on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.casme.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CASME</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procurement Software Podcast, host James Meads announces the rebranding of the podcast and explains the reasons behind it.

Initially launched as The Procuretech Podcast, the show has evolved over the years and now aligns with the procurementsoftware.site brand.

Tune in to stay updated and inspired by the exciting developments in the field.
<h2>How to get a budget for procurement tech</h2>
This episode delves into the evolving procurement technology market, highlighting a trend towards niche solutions tailored to specific industries and geographies, driven by the unique procurement needs across sectors and regions. Companies are now focusing on developing specialised tools to address particular industry challenges, thereby enabling organisations to select technology that closely aligns with their requirements. This shift towards customisation is leading to better technology adoption and effectiveness.

The episode also emphasises the importance of starting with the "why" when developing a business case for ProcureTech, advising to focus on addressing the most significant challenges within procurement processes. It draws on Simon Sinek's principle of understanding the purpose behind actions, suggesting that identifying key pain points can guide the selection of targeted solutions. Furthermore, the podcast advocates for a value-driven approach over merely cost-saving, urging consideration of technology's impact on both the top and bottom lines.

Moreover, the podcast outlines various factors justifying ProcureTech investment, including cost savings through streamlined processes, risk management in complex supply chains, enhanced supplier relationship management, and the promotion of sustainability initiatives. It also touches on financial optimisation by automating tasks and potentially reallocating or reducing personnel, highlighting the multifaceted benefits of investing in procurement technology.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:10] Rebranding the podcast.
[00:05:13] Funding challenges in procurement tech.
[00:08:12] Intake category and its impact.
[00:14:28] Companies' approach to procurement.
[00:15:21] Best of breed solutions.
[00:19:19] Due diligence on IT suppliers.
[00:23:15] Supply chain disruption and risk.
[00:27:30-00:27:40] CO2 emissions measurement in procurement.
[00:31:01] Giving up salary for tech.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procurement Software Podcast!

Thanks to Graham for being a great interviewer, James for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about CASME, Graham Crawshaw, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<strong>Grab your ticket to <a href="https://procureconeu.wbresearch.com/srspricing/?utm_source=11646.018_%20PCEU_MP&amp;utm_medium=Media%20Partner&amp;utm_campaign=11646.018-%20PCEU%202024-%20ProcurementSoftwareSite-%20MP:&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;disc=PCPS10&amp;extTreatId=7597819" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ProcureCon EU in Barcelona with 10% off!</a></strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcrawshaw/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Graham Crawshaw on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.casme.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CASME</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ef4e4a54-079f-4df8-9bbb-e77fd40fbaa8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0301d437-a04e-4325-9da9-24c2045809c0/Procuretech-ep-1-Repurpose-of-CASME.mp3" length="32377288" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>5</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement tech’s latest developments – Simon Geale from Proxima</title><itunes:title>Procurement tech’s latest developments – Simon Geale from Proxima</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Simon Geale, VP of Procurement at leading UK-based consultancy Proxima. This is a fireside chat-style episode about the latest trends in procurement technology.

Simon talks about his background and role at Proxima, and the company's focus on serving large enterprise clients with complex procurement problems. They also touch on Proxima's acquisition by Bain and its potential impact.

Tune in to hear their insights on how technology is shaping the future of procurement.
<h2>Digital procurement: ongoing developments and trends</h2>
In this episode, the exploration of generative AI's role in procurement tasks reveals a perception gap between its potential and the value offered by traditional providers. Despite acknowledging generative AI's capabilities in vendor discovery and strategy development, the episode highlights some of its potential ineffectiveness if not used properly.

The discussion raises questions about software vendors being able to adapt to this gap, and also touches on the democratisation of tools like ChatGPT and its role in automating procurement tasks.

We discuss the continued flourishing of digital procurement startups, which significantly expand technology options for digitisation and innovation in our profession.

Emphasising the importance of realistic expectations, the episode underscores the evolving landscape where innovation is not solely dependent on budgets, and it concludes by urging effective communication about AI capabilities and limitations, in a world where the belief in the omnipotence of systems persists.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:09] Introducing Simon Geale of Proxima
[00:05:33] Interacting with Proxima clients.
[00:08:29] Digital maturity and procurement.
[00:13:16] Lack of dynamism among CPOs.
[00:15:02] Digital transformations and failure.
[00:18:49] Setting realistic expectations in procurement.
[00:23:02] Perception gap in AI advancements.
[00:26:41] Industry 4.0 revolution.
[00:30:57] The future of ERP.
[00:34:10] The future of procurement tech.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Simon for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Simon Geale, Proxima or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/simongeale/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Simon Geale on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.proximagroup.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Proxima</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Simon Geale, VP of Procurement at leading UK-based consultancy Proxima. This is a fireside chat-style episode about the latest trends in procurement technology.

Simon talks about his background and role at Proxima, and the company's focus on serving large enterprise clients with complex procurement problems. They also touch on Proxima's acquisition by Bain and its potential impact.

Tune in to hear their insights on how technology is shaping the future of procurement.
<h2>Digital procurement: ongoing developments and trends</h2>
In this episode, the exploration of generative AI's role in procurement tasks reveals a perception gap between its potential and the value offered by traditional providers. Despite acknowledging generative AI's capabilities in vendor discovery and strategy development, the episode highlights some of its potential ineffectiveness if not used properly.

The discussion raises questions about software vendors being able to adapt to this gap, and also touches on the democratisation of tools like ChatGPT and its role in automating procurement tasks.

We discuss the continued flourishing of digital procurement startups, which significantly expand technology options for digitisation and innovation in our profession.

Emphasising the importance of realistic expectations, the episode underscores the evolving landscape where innovation is not solely dependent on budgets, and it concludes by urging effective communication about AI capabilities and limitations, in a world where the belief in the omnipotence of systems persists.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:09] Introducing Simon Geale of Proxima
[00:05:33] Interacting with Proxima clients.
[00:08:29] Digital maturity and procurement.
[00:13:16] Lack of dynamism among CPOs.
[00:15:02] Digital transformations and failure.
[00:18:49] Setting realistic expectations in procurement.
[00:23:02] Perception gap in AI advancements.
[00:26:41] Industry 4.0 revolution.
[00:30:57] The future of ERP.
[00:34:10] The future of procurement tech.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Simon for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Simon Geale, Proxima or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/simongeale/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Simon Geale on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.proximagroup.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Proxima</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">74f0fb88-1fc2-416c-af5c-a0fe1a5c2c25</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/35f7af11-537e-4e8d-b1ea-666d84a4cd70/Procuretech-ep-29-Simon-Geale-Proxima.mp3" length="34156467" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Generative AI driving better spend analytics – Sam Clive from Rosslyn</title><itunes:title>Generative AI driving better spend analytics – Sam Clive from Rosslyn</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads discusses the use of Generative AI in spend and data analytics applications with Sam Clive, Head of Product at Rosslyn.

Sam recently delivered a keynote on this topic at ProcureCon EU, and James attended this presentation and thought it would make a great podcast. They dive into the potential of Generative AI and its impact on procurement.

Tune in to learn more about how this technology is shaping the future of procurement.
<h2><strong>Generative AI and spend classification: is it accurate?</strong></h2>
The episode delves into the challenges faced by traditional AI and machine learning approaches in spend analytics, mainly due to overcoming data quality issues in customer data.

Rosslyn undertook the challenge to try to understand whether Generative AI could solve this problem. In collaboration with industry giants and universities, they sought an answer and a process to run some experiments.

Classification is a subjective task. It has been historically difficult to standardise. To address these challenges, the episode explores the use of Generative AI as a possible solution. This technology could automate data classification, providing insights and making spend analytics more accessible, even for smaller businesses.

In their recent trial, Rosslyn found that Generative AI has the potential to revolutionise data classification, improving efficiency and accuracy while democratising its use.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:37] Introducing Sam Clive of Rosslyn.
[00:03:54] Challenges in spend analytics.
[00:07:19] GPT and its capabilities.
[00:11:23] AI's decision-making transparency.
[00:16:08] Line item data challenges.
[00:19:13] Generative AI and language understanding.
[00:23:12] Bringing data together en masse.
[00:25:28] Generative AI-driven spend analytics.
[00:29:15] Our Digital Procurement 101 Course.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Sam for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Sam Clive, Rosslyn or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-clive-2b9b6168/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sam Clive on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.rosslyn.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Rosslyn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads discusses the use of Generative AI in spend and data analytics applications with Sam Clive, Head of Product at Rosslyn.

Sam recently delivered a keynote on this topic at ProcureCon EU, and James attended this presentation and thought it would make a great podcast. They dive into the potential of Generative AI and its impact on procurement.

Tune in to learn more about how this technology is shaping the future of procurement.
<h2><strong>Generative AI and spend classification: is it accurate?</strong></h2>
The episode delves into the challenges faced by traditional AI and machine learning approaches in spend analytics, mainly due to overcoming data quality issues in customer data.

Rosslyn undertook the challenge to try to understand whether Generative AI could solve this problem. In collaboration with industry giants and universities, they sought an answer and a process to run some experiments.

Classification is a subjective task. It has been historically difficult to standardise. To address these challenges, the episode explores the use of Generative AI as a possible solution. This technology could automate data classification, providing insights and making spend analytics more accessible, even for smaller businesses.

In their recent trial, Rosslyn found that Generative AI has the potential to revolutionise data classification, improving efficiency and accuracy while democratising its use.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:37] Introducing Sam Clive of Rosslyn.
[00:03:54] Challenges in spend analytics.
[00:07:19] GPT and its capabilities.
[00:11:23] AI's decision-making transparency.
[00:16:08] Line item data challenges.
[00:19:13] Generative AI and language understanding.
[00:23:12] Bringing data together en masse.
[00:25:28] Generative AI-driven spend analytics.
[00:29:15] Our Digital Procurement 101 Course.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Sam for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Sam Clive, Rosslyn or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-clive-2b9b6168/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sam Clive on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.rosslyn.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Rosslyn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0f108ab0-ba96-4255-bf88-1e4abc04143e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3a86ed5b-b3ff-4300-b71c-8fbe75a436ec/Procuretech-ep-28-Sam-Clive-Rosslyn.mp3" length="29646269" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>How to modernise procurement for the mid-market? – Hans Boot from PEG</title><itunes:title>How to modernise procurement for the mid-market? – Hans Boot from PEG</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads explores the digitisation challenges faced by mid-market companies with guest Hans Boot, a partner from consulting firm Durch Denken Vorne, specialising in this sector.

They discuss their experiences working with small and mid-sized companies in Austria, Switzerland, and Germany. They touch on topics like organisational development, digitisation of processes, indirect costs, and risk management.

Tune in to gain insights on navigating the digitisation journey in the mid-market procurement space.
<h2><strong>Procurement transformation challenges in the mid-market</strong></h2>
This episode focuses on the challenges of digitising procurement in mid-sized companies. Hans Boot is from Durch Denken Vorne. They are a German procurement consultancy which is part of a wider alliance callled Procurement Excellence Group.

Hans highlights that many mid-sized firms still rely on manual, outdated methods for procurement, particularly in areas like supplier management, risk management, and sustainability. The episode stresses the importance of analysing and improving procurement processes, contrasting them with the more professional and modern practices of larger companies.

Additionally, it advocates for giving operational procurement employees the chance to engage in strategic tasks, emphasising mindset over skills. The episode addresses the difficulties in finding experienced individuals in the job market and suggests investing in training and coaching for existing employees as a long-term solution. Ultimately, it underscores the need for a mindset shift to foster a more strategic procurement function within mid-sized companies.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong><strong> </strong>

[00:02:04] Introducing Hans Boot of Durch Denken Vorne
[00:05:47] German business culture challenges.
[00:08:22] Thinking long-term vs. short-term.
[00:13:01] Analysing procurement departments.
[00:17:10] Traditional companies in Europe.
[00:21:10] Giving time for strategic tasks.
[00:26:04] Operational buyers adopting a more strategic mindset.
[00:30:13] Adoption of digital software in procurement.
[00:34:02] The importance of procurement to these organisations.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Hans for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Hans Boot, Durch Denken Vorne or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hans-boot-procurement/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Hans Boot on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.durchdenkenvorne.de/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Durch Denken Vorne</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads explores the digitisation challenges faced by mid-market companies with guest Hans Boot, a partner from consulting firm Durch Denken Vorne, specialising in this sector.

They discuss their experiences working with small and mid-sized companies in Austria, Switzerland, and Germany. They touch on topics like organisational development, digitisation of processes, indirect costs, and risk management.

Tune in to gain insights on navigating the digitisation journey in the mid-market procurement space.
<h2><strong>Procurement transformation challenges in the mid-market</strong></h2>
This episode focuses on the challenges of digitising procurement in mid-sized companies. Hans Boot is from Durch Denken Vorne. They are a German procurement consultancy which is part of a wider alliance callled Procurement Excellence Group.

Hans highlights that many mid-sized firms still rely on manual, outdated methods for procurement, particularly in areas like supplier management, risk management, and sustainability. The episode stresses the importance of analysing and improving procurement processes, contrasting them with the more professional and modern practices of larger companies.

Additionally, it advocates for giving operational procurement employees the chance to engage in strategic tasks, emphasising mindset over skills. The episode addresses the difficulties in finding experienced individuals in the job market and suggests investing in training and coaching for existing employees as a long-term solution. Ultimately, it underscores the need for a mindset shift to foster a more strategic procurement function within mid-sized companies.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong><strong> </strong>

[00:02:04] Introducing Hans Boot of Durch Denken Vorne
[00:05:47] German business culture challenges.
[00:08:22] Thinking long-term vs. short-term.
[00:13:01] Analysing procurement departments.
[00:17:10] Traditional companies in Europe.
[00:21:10] Giving time for strategic tasks.
[00:26:04] Operational buyers adopting a more strategic mindset.
[00:30:13] Adoption of digital software in procurement.
[00:34:02] The importance of procurement to these organisations.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Hans for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Hans Boot, Durch Denken Vorne or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hans-boot-procurement/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Hans Boot on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.durchdenkenvorne.de/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Durch Denken Vorne</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">910d5dfe-8094-41b4-aca9-da33f77d11e4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a64fb043-8895-4b5e-957f-a0a6d7d7b837/Procuretech-ep-27-Hans-Boot-Durch-Denken-Vorne.mp3" length="36309793" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Predictive Procurement orchestration – Edmund Zagorin from Arkestro</title><itunes:title>Predictive Procurement orchestration – Edmund Zagorin from Arkestro</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes back Edmund Zagorin, Founder and Chief Strategy Officer of Arkestro. They discuss the use of predictive models in various areas of procurement and supply chain.

Tune in for an insightful and forward-thinking conversation about the future of procurement and technology.
<h2>Predictive procurement orchestration: what is it?</h2>
This episode focuses on user-friendly technology in the procurement industry, catering to the expectations of the new generation. The discussion underscores the need for technology that doesn't alienate suppliers and simplifies the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="16">procurement process</a> with a "one-click" approach.

It highlights the power balance between procurement leaders and suppliers, and how fostering positive relationships through efficient processes benefits both parties.

The episode also explores the use of predictive models and their integration into existing procurement systems, offering valuable insights and enhancing decision-making.

Arkestro supports various procurement activities and seamlessly integrates with ERP and other systems, providing real-time insights and automating workflows. It emphasises the value of centralised systems in tracking contract renewals and projects, ultimately streamlining and automating procurement processes for success.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:09] Introducing Edmund Zagorin of Arkestro
[00:01:27] Predictive models in procurement.
[00:06:17] Clarifying Arkestro's value.
[00:09:02] An interesting topic.
[00:14:06] Meeting people where they are.
[00:19:48] What's next for procurement?
[00:23:09] Overturning the old procurement model.
[00:25:57] Are there cool folks in procurement?

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Edmund for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Edmund Zagorin, Arkestro or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmund-zagorin-41291b13/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Edmund Zagorin on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://arkestro.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Arkestro</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes back Edmund Zagorin, Founder and Chief Strategy Officer of Arkestro. They discuss the use of predictive models in various areas of procurement and supply chain.

Tune in for an insightful and forward-thinking conversation about the future of procurement and technology.
<h2>Predictive procurement orchestration: what is it?</h2>
This episode focuses on user-friendly technology in the procurement industry, catering to the expectations of the new generation. The discussion underscores the need for technology that doesn't alienate suppliers and simplifies the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="16">procurement process</a> with a "one-click" approach.

It highlights the power balance between procurement leaders and suppliers, and how fostering positive relationships through efficient processes benefits both parties.

The episode also explores the use of predictive models and their integration into existing procurement systems, offering valuable insights and enhancing decision-making.

Arkestro supports various procurement activities and seamlessly integrates with ERP and other systems, providing real-time insights and automating workflows. It emphasises the value of centralised systems in tracking contract renewals and projects, ultimately streamlining and automating procurement processes for success.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:09] Introducing Edmund Zagorin of Arkestro
[00:01:27] Predictive models in procurement.
[00:06:17] Clarifying Arkestro's value.
[00:09:02] An interesting topic.
[00:14:06] Meeting people where they are.
[00:19:48] What's next for procurement?
[00:23:09] Overturning the old procurement model.
[00:25:57] Are there cool folks in procurement?

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Edmund for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Edmund Zagorin, Arkestro or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmund-zagorin-41291b13/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Edmund Zagorin on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://arkestro.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Arkestro</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b44b3e12-6939-4119-ba33-fa338d05f7cc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9bc15ee7-8724-4069-9aa5-bb037397bca1/Procuretech-ep-26-Edmund-Zagorin-Arkestro.mp3" length="26855555" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Can tech help to source Consulting? – Laurent Thomas from ConsultingQuest</title><itunes:title>Can tech help to source Consulting? – Laurent Thomas from ConsultingQuest</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads explores the challenges of sourcing consultancy services and how to optimise the process. He is joined by Laurent Thomas, the co-founder and president of Consulting Quest.

Together, they discuss the unique complexities of sourcing consultancy services and provide insights on how technology can help streamline the process.

Tune in to learn more about this final frontier of procurement and discover strategies for sourcing consultancy services effectively.
<h2>Can procurement tech help us source consulting services?</h2>
This episode explores optimising consultancy sourcing through technology amidst today's challenging economic landscape. Laurent draws parallels between consultancy procurement and other professional services, emphasising the distinction lies in decentralised procurement usually being the norm for consultancy.

A central theme is viewing consultancy as an investment, rather than mere cost-cutting. By employing structure and technology, organisations can lower costs and elevate service value. Laurent's company offers a platform with resources for this endeavour.

Additionally, the episode acknowledges challenges tied to personal relationships and cronyism affecting senior-level sourcing decisions.

In sum, it highlights the vital role of technology and structured methodologies in consultancy sourcing, promising cost reductions, added value, and informed procurement choices.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:40] Introducing Laurent Thomas of Consulting Quest.
[00:04:10] Digitalising sourcing of consulting services.
[00:08:33] Challenges in buying consulting services.
[00:11:43] Buying projects multiple times.
[00:15:38] Managing consulting beyond sourcing.
[00:19:52] The power of healthy competition.
[00:22:30] Independent consulting firms.
[00:25:07] Biased rankings in consulting.
[00:31:08] Average spend on consultancy.
[00:31:37] Consulting as a golden goose.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Laurent for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Laurent Thomas, Consulting Quest or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurent-thomas-1636278/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Laurent Thomas on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://consultingquest.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Consulting Quest</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads explores the challenges of sourcing consultancy services and how to optimise the process. He is joined by Laurent Thomas, the co-founder and president of Consulting Quest.

Together, they discuss the unique complexities of sourcing consultancy services and provide insights on how technology can help streamline the process.

Tune in to learn more about this final frontier of procurement and discover strategies for sourcing consultancy services effectively.
<h2>Can procurement tech help us source consulting services?</h2>
This episode explores optimising consultancy sourcing through technology amidst today's challenging economic landscape. Laurent draws parallels between consultancy procurement and other professional services, emphasising the distinction lies in decentralised procurement usually being the norm for consultancy.

A central theme is viewing consultancy as an investment, rather than mere cost-cutting. By employing structure and technology, organisations can lower costs and elevate service value. Laurent's company offers a platform with resources for this endeavour.

Additionally, the episode acknowledges challenges tied to personal relationships and cronyism affecting senior-level sourcing decisions.

In sum, it highlights the vital role of technology and structured methodologies in consultancy sourcing, promising cost reductions, added value, and informed procurement choices.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:40] Introducing Laurent Thomas of Consulting Quest.
[00:04:10] Digitalising sourcing of consulting services.
[00:08:33] Challenges in buying consulting services.
[00:11:43] Buying projects multiple times.
[00:15:38] Managing consulting beyond sourcing.
[00:19:52] The power of healthy competition.
[00:22:30] Independent consulting firms.
[00:25:07] Biased rankings in consulting.
[00:31:08] Average spend on consultancy.
[00:31:37] Consulting as a golden goose.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Laurent for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Laurent Thomas, Consulting Quest or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurent-thomas-1636278/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Laurent Thomas on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://consultingquest.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Consulting Quest</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">25e1d76f-4586-4948-b07d-6cd9910864ef</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8edd6d7f-ce1c-413c-b215-f4f03cbf2510/Procuretech-ep-25-Laurent-Thomas-Consulting-Quest.mp3" length="33928261" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>P2P software to solve a tight labour market – Ryan Belcher from Spendwise</title><itunes:title>P2P software to solve a tight labour market – Ryan Belcher from Spendwise</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Ryan Belcher, founder and CEO of Spendwise. They discuss the importance of sustainable and profitable growth for businesses of any size.

Tune in to learn more about how technology can give businesses a leg up in today's competitive landscape.
<h2><strong>Solving the procurement talent shortage through automation</strong></h2>
The episode looks at why smaller organisations often are better off buying an off-the-shelf Source-to-Pay solution, rather than pursuing in-house custom product development. With the need for maintenance, training, and resource constraints, it’s often a false economy trying to build your own product.

Smaller organisations often lack IT expertise and procurement capabilities, which can make in-house development impractical unless they are larger and have the necessary resources.

We also look at how automation and simplification of tactical and operational processes, thanks to technology, can offer an alternative to the difficulties faced when it comes to recruitment and retention of operational procurement team members.

The discussion with Ryan also focuses on achieving profitability through bootstrapping and maintaining a robust customer pipeline. Despite strong competition and an array of solutions in this segment, Ryan still sees manual processes and Excel as prominent in procurement. Educating customers about the benefits of automation is key, especially among his typical potential customer base.

The episode also explores the benefits of shortening processes: increased productivity, improved employee satisfaction, and enhanced reputation, all of which impact project completion and business success, even though quantification can be challenging.

We round off by looking at the threats to the traditional software-as-a-service model from Generative AI and low code / no code platforms.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:20] Introducing Ryan Belcher, CEO of Spendwise.
[00:04:35] How Spendwise started
[00:06:43] Greenfield space and competition.
[00:10:01] Addressing recruitment challenges in SMEs.
[00:12:20] ROI and customer objections.
[00:16:37] Increasing dominance of low-code/no-code platforms.
[00:21:23] AI in procurement tech.
[00:24:10] The importance of profitable growth.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ryan for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ryan Belcher, Spendwise or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryancbelcher/">Ryan Belcher on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.spendwise.com/">Spendwise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Ryan Belcher, founder and CEO of Spendwise. They discuss the importance of sustainable and profitable growth for businesses of any size.

Tune in to learn more about how technology can give businesses a leg up in today's competitive landscape.
<h2><strong>Solving the procurement talent shortage through automation</strong></h2>
The episode looks at why smaller organisations often are better off buying an off-the-shelf Source-to-Pay solution, rather than pursuing in-house custom product development. With the need for maintenance, training, and resource constraints, it’s often a false economy trying to build your own product.

Smaller organisations often lack IT expertise and procurement capabilities, which can make in-house development impractical unless they are larger and have the necessary resources.

We also look at how automation and simplification of tactical and operational processes, thanks to technology, can offer an alternative to the difficulties faced when it comes to recruitment and retention of operational procurement team members.

The discussion with Ryan also focuses on achieving profitability through bootstrapping and maintaining a robust customer pipeline. Despite strong competition and an array of solutions in this segment, Ryan still sees manual processes and Excel as prominent in procurement. Educating customers about the benefits of automation is key, especially among his typical potential customer base.

The episode also explores the benefits of shortening processes: increased productivity, improved employee satisfaction, and enhanced reputation, all of which impact project completion and business success, even though quantification can be challenging.

We round off by looking at the threats to the traditional software-as-a-service model from Generative AI and low code / no code platforms.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:20] Introducing Ryan Belcher, CEO of Spendwise.
[00:04:35] How Spendwise started
[00:06:43] Greenfield space and competition.
[00:10:01] Addressing recruitment challenges in SMEs.
[00:12:20] ROI and customer objections.
[00:16:37] Increasing dominance of low-code/no-code platforms.
[00:21:23] AI in procurement tech.
[00:24:10] The importance of profitable growth.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ryan for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ryan Belcher, Spendwise or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryancbelcher/">Ryan Belcher on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.spendwise.com/">Spendwise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">21d7904d-7b18-4bdd-a772-4581013d9ea0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b88b71f8-bbbd-43a9-afef-353c57a59e79/Procuretech-ep-24-Ryan-Belcher-Spendwise.mp3" length="24722292" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>The State of Procuretech address – Solo episode with James Meads</title><itunes:title>The State of Procuretech address – Solo episode with James Meads</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads first introduces the new look and feel of the website procurementsoftware.site. After months of work, the website now features a fresh and modern user interface, making it easier for users to navigate.

Additionally, 65 new solutions have been added to the database, bringing the total to over 400. The episode also mentions the launch of two new digital products as part of the website refresh.

Tune in to learn more about the exciting developments in the procurement technology space.
<h2><strong>Current and future trends in the procurement technology market</strong></h2>
James has divided this solo episode into two sections. In the first section, he discusses fundamental challenges and opportunities in procurement, highlighting the change management process during digital transformations as a significant hurdle. He stresses the importance of involving stakeholders, as well as the need to improve internal marketing and communication efforts. We need to communicate what we do better to the wider business, and articulate how this fits into their objectives.

The second section focuses on procurement technology trends, including generative AI's potential role in source-to-pay and procure-to-pay processes. Digitisation and sustainability are also explored, with James suggesting that sustainability initiatives present an opportunity for procurement professionals to secure investment into technology.

Throughout the episode, the importance of effective change management and stakeholder engagement in procurement is underscored, emphasising the need for improved strategies and communication in the field.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:52] Digital Procurement 101.
[00:06:18] Change management and communication.
[00:09:13] Modern tech stack in procurement.
[00:13:48] Sustainability driving procurement technology.
[00:17:21] Building in-house procurement tech - yes or no.
[00:22:03] Tech companies cutting marketing budget.
[00:25:48] Boom in sustainability and supply chain transparency reporting software.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

A big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads first introduces the new look and feel of the website procurementsoftware.site. After months of work, the website now features a fresh and modern user interface, making it easier for users to navigate.

Additionally, 65 new solutions have been added to the database, bringing the total to over 400. The episode also mentions the launch of two new digital products as part of the website refresh.

Tune in to learn more about the exciting developments in the procurement technology space.
<h2><strong>Current and future trends in the procurement technology market</strong></h2>
James has divided this solo episode into two sections. In the first section, he discusses fundamental challenges and opportunities in procurement, highlighting the change management process during digital transformations as a significant hurdle. He stresses the importance of involving stakeholders, as well as the need to improve internal marketing and communication efforts. We need to communicate what we do better to the wider business, and articulate how this fits into their objectives.

The second section focuses on procurement technology trends, including generative AI's potential role in source-to-pay and procure-to-pay processes. Digitisation and sustainability are also explored, with James suggesting that sustainability initiatives present an opportunity for procurement professionals to secure investment into technology.

Throughout the episode, the importance of effective change management and stakeholder engagement in procurement is underscored, emphasising the need for improved strategies and communication in the field.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:52] Digital Procurement 101.
[00:06:18] Change management and communication.
[00:09:13] Modern tech stack in procurement.
[00:13:48] Sustainability driving procurement technology.
[00:17:21] Building in-house procurement tech - yes or no.
[00:22:03] Tech companies cutting marketing budget.
[00:25:48] Boom in sustainability and supply chain transparency reporting software.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

A big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2c99f457-72e2-4b05-b684-91503d373aea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a370d757-cf02-423d-a33d-5599272915be/Procuretech-ep-23-James-Meads-Solo-Episode.mp3" length="27281702" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Is “plug-and-play” procuretech a fallacy? – Karthik Rama from Procurement Doctors</title><itunes:title>Is “plug-and-play” procuretech a fallacy? – Karthik Rama from Procurement Doctors</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Karthik Rama, also known as The Procurement Doctor, to discuss the current state of procurement and the barriers preventing investment in innovative startups and procurement tech companies. They explore the history and symptoms of the issue, and then offer potential solutions.

Join us for an exciting and insightful conversation in the digital procurement space.
<h2>Plug-and-play procurement technology: is it a fallacy?</h2>
In this episode, James discusses digital procurement with Karthik Rama, The Procurement Doctor, who leverages his nearly two decades of procurement experience to assess the current state of procurement.

They explore barriers to investing in innovative startups and procurement tech companies, emphasising the need for procurement to embrace technology.

Karthik's status as a second-time guest underscores his expertise, with insights from working with both legacy suites and startups. A compelling SharePoint utilisation example illustrates how cost-effective solutions enhance processes and profitability.

This episode offers valuable insights into digital procurement's challenges and opportunities, highlighting the importance of tech-savvy procurement professionals collaborating with startups for innovation.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:45] Introducing Karthik Rama, aka The Procurement Doctor
[00:05:51] Legacy suites and newer solutions.
[00:08:29] UI and integration concerns.
[00:12:46] Organisation size and procurement technology.
[00:15:42] Risk aversion in procurement.
[00:20:07] Demand for better UI/UX.
[00:23:58] Marketplace or app store function.
[00:29:41] Sustainability and ESG integration.
[00:31:07] Low-code, no-code revolution.
[00:34:32] Website refresh and relaunch.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Karthik for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Karthik Rama, Procurement doctors or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/procurementdoctor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Karthik Rama on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="blank" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurementdoctors.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Karthik Rama, also known as The Procurement Doctor, to discuss the current state of procurement and the barriers preventing investment in innovative startups and procurement tech companies. They explore the history and symptoms of the issue, and then offer potential solutions.

Join us for an exciting and insightful conversation in the digital procurement space.
<h2>Plug-and-play procurement technology: is it a fallacy?</h2>
In this episode, James discusses digital procurement with Karthik Rama, The Procurement Doctor, who leverages his nearly two decades of procurement experience to assess the current state of procurement.

They explore barriers to investing in innovative startups and procurement tech companies, emphasising the need for procurement to embrace technology.

Karthik's status as a second-time guest underscores his expertise, with insights from working with both legacy suites and startups. A compelling SharePoint utilisation example illustrates how cost-effective solutions enhance processes and profitability.

This episode offers valuable insights into digital procurement's challenges and opportunities, highlighting the importance of tech-savvy procurement professionals collaborating with startups for innovation.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:45] Introducing Karthik Rama, aka The Procurement Doctor
[00:05:51] Legacy suites and newer solutions.
[00:08:29] UI and integration concerns.
[00:12:46] Organisation size and procurement technology.
[00:15:42] Risk aversion in procurement.
[00:20:07] Demand for better UI/UX.
[00:23:58] Marketplace or app store function.
[00:29:41] Sustainability and ESG integration.
[00:31:07] Low-code, no-code revolution.
[00:34:32] Website refresh and relaunch.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Karthik for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Karthik Rama, Procurement doctors or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/procurementdoctor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Karthik Rama on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="blank" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurementdoctors.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">23e4fb5d-707a-457f-b428-657aeceb0df7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/eecfaba9-707a-42a2-92df-51545afc1517/Procuretech-ep-22-Karthik-Rama-Procurement-Doctors.mp3" length="34736594" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>How can Procurement Leaders grow with Coaching? – Laura Sellers from Olive</title><itunes:title>How can Procurement Leaders grow with Coaching? – Laura Sellers from Olive</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Laura Sellers, a procurement coach who runs her own business, Olive Executive &amp; Leadership Coaching. We discuss the role of coaching and how it can aid and assist leaders in the context of digital transformation.

Tune in to hear their insightful conversation on shaping the future of procurement through technology.
<h2>Can coaching for procurement leaders help them succeed?</h2>
In this episode, we embark on a transformative journey into the realm of self-awareness, uncovering its profound impact on our ability to create a lasting impression without the need for constant justification.

Laura guides us through the art of understanding our reactions and behaviours within our roles and organisations, empowering us to consciously shape our image.

With courage as our compass, we explore the terrain of self-awareness, taking charge of our thoughts, feelings, and actions. This new-found control allows us to redefine our place and influence at the table, which can ultimately magnify our impact.

Moreover, we also delve into the vital role of coaching in navigating the complexities of habit change and combating burnout. Despite the challenges of implementing lasting change, coaching emerges as a steadfast ally, offering ongoing support and guidance. Even when the path forward may not be crystal clear, coaching aids in unveiling hidden patterns and pathways for improvement.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:02] Introducing Laura Sellers from Olive.
[00:04:06] Change management in procurement.
[00:09:10] Developing executive presence.
[00:10:36] Burnout and work-life balance.
[00:15:36] Reluctance to invest in procurement.
[00:19:39] The fabled seat at the table.
[00:21:29] Great leaders and how they practice self-awareness.
[00:24:11] Coaching as a partnership approach.
[00:28:19] Soft skills and self-awareness.
[00:31:19] Investing in procurement software.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Laura for sharing her insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Laura Sellers, Olive, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-sellers/">Laura Sellers on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.coachingforprocurement.co.uk">Olive</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Laura Sellers, a procurement coach who runs her own business, Olive Executive &amp; Leadership Coaching. We discuss the role of coaching and how it can aid and assist leaders in the context of digital transformation.

Tune in to hear their insightful conversation on shaping the future of procurement through technology.
<h2>Can coaching for procurement leaders help them succeed?</h2>
In this episode, we embark on a transformative journey into the realm of self-awareness, uncovering its profound impact on our ability to create a lasting impression without the need for constant justification.

Laura guides us through the art of understanding our reactions and behaviours within our roles and organisations, empowering us to consciously shape our image.

With courage as our compass, we explore the terrain of self-awareness, taking charge of our thoughts, feelings, and actions. This new-found control allows us to redefine our place and influence at the table, which can ultimately magnify our impact.

Moreover, we also delve into the vital role of coaching in navigating the complexities of habit change and combating burnout. Despite the challenges of implementing lasting change, coaching emerges as a steadfast ally, offering ongoing support and guidance. Even when the path forward may not be crystal clear, coaching aids in unveiling hidden patterns and pathways for improvement.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:02] Introducing Laura Sellers from Olive.
[00:04:06] Change management in procurement.
[00:09:10] Developing executive presence.
[00:10:36] Burnout and work-life balance.
[00:15:36] Reluctance to invest in procurement.
[00:19:39] The fabled seat at the table.
[00:21:29] Great leaders and how they practice self-awareness.
[00:24:11] Coaching as a partnership approach.
[00:28:19] Soft skills and self-awareness.
[00:31:19] Investing in procurement software.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Laura for sharing her insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Laura Sellers, Olive, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-sellers/">Laura Sellers on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.coachingforprocurement.co.uk">Olive</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3b14cbda-535c-4066-a26c-9b130a8d8c4f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dce813c0-8105-4f81-bc22-de465e3394a8/Procuretech-ep-21-Laura-Sellers-Olive-Executive-Leadership-Coac.mp3" length="32335001" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Guided Buying for mid-market businesses – Thejo Kote from Airbase</title><itunes:title>Guided Buying for mid-market businesses – Thejo Kote from Airbase</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads invites Thejo Kote, CEO and founder of Airbase, into the hot seat. Thejo introduces guided procurement as a new feature recently launched by Airbase.

Airbase focuses on serving the underserved mid-market sector, offering a platform that brings together all workflows and payments related to non-payroll spending.
<h2>Bringing guided buying in mid-market organisations</h2>
In this episode, James and Thejo discuss the company's mission to create a procurement tool that strikes a balance between simplicity for employees, alongside the necessary features and maturity for professionals and practitioners.

They acknowledge the daily complexities faced by procurement experts but also recognise the need for a user-friendly experience for employees. The challenge lies in catering to different company preferences and accommodating individual personalities.

The company's approach is to build a flexible tool that <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="17">guides employees through the procurement process</a> without extensive training. It focuses on clarity, easy navigation, and a consumer-grade user experience, aiming to consolidate all spending needs into one platform.

The value proposition of a single interface for all spending, offering both breadth and depth, is highlighted as a compelling solution.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:09] Introducing Thejo Kote, CEO of Airbase.
[00:04:47] Procurement tech for underserved markets.
[00:05:31] Procurement process automation helps businesses.
[00:13:33] Underserved middle segment in procurement.
[00:16:00] User-friendly procurement platform with consolidation.
[00:21:20] Collaborative tool for guided procurement.
[00:26:00] Balancing complexity and user experience.
[00:31:57] Airbase’s focus being mainly on the North American market.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Thejo for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Thejo Kote, Airbase, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Thejo Kote on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.airbase.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Airbase</a>.</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads invites Thejo Kote, CEO and founder of Airbase, into the hot seat. Thejo introduces guided procurement as a new feature recently launched by Airbase.

Airbase focuses on serving the underserved mid-market sector, offering a platform that brings together all workflows and payments related to non-payroll spending.
<h2>Bringing guided buying in mid-market organisations</h2>
In this episode, James and Thejo discuss the company's mission to create a procurement tool that strikes a balance between simplicity for employees, alongside the necessary features and maturity for professionals and practitioners.

They acknowledge the daily complexities faced by procurement experts but also recognise the need for a user-friendly experience for employees. The challenge lies in catering to different company preferences and accommodating individual personalities.

The company's approach is to build a flexible tool that <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-process-orchestration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="17">guides employees through the procurement process</a> without extensive training. It focuses on clarity, easy navigation, and a consumer-grade user experience, aiming to consolidate all spending needs into one platform.

The value proposition of a single interface for all spending, offering both breadth and depth, is highlighted as a compelling solution.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:09] Introducing Thejo Kote, CEO of Airbase.
[00:04:47] Procurement tech for underserved markets.
[00:05:31] Procurement process automation helps businesses.
[00:13:33] Underserved middle segment in procurement.
[00:16:00] User-friendly procurement platform with consolidation.
[00:21:20] Collaborative tool for guided procurement.
[00:26:00] Balancing complexity and user experience.
[00:31:57] Airbase’s focus being mainly on the North American market.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Thejo for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Thejo Kote, Airbase, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Thejo Kote on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.airbase.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Airbase</a>.</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">45d76337-5af0-4e63-b9df-258c7522044b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/15c40c19-036c-4366-8347-adaf69ce5b3a/Procuretech-ep-20-Thejo-Kote-Airbase.mp3" length="35492264" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procuretech in the Middle East – Iyad Aldalooj from Penny Software</title><itunes:title>Procuretech in the Middle East – Iyad Aldalooj from Penny Software</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Iyad Aldalooj, founder and CEO of Penny, a source-to-pay solution and B2B marketplace, based in Saudi Arabia. They discuss the challenges and nuances of the procurement technology space in the rapidly developing Middle East and Gulf region.

Tune in for an insightful conversation on the future of procurement in the Middle East.
<h2>The Procurement Technology Landscape in the Middle East</h2>
In this episode, Iyad underscores the need for user-centric design in enterprise software, aligning it with consumer app experiences like Uber.

Iyad critiques the persisting complexity and outdated interfaces in enterprise software and advocates for prioritising simplicity to enhance employee engagement and productivity. Using Penny as an example, he showcases how a user-friendly approach can attract suppliers without extensive training.

The episode also discusses the importance of governance policies in procurement software, emphasising the values of saving, control, and efficiency. CEOs and CFOs are identified as advocates for digitising procurement to ensure compliance and governance, especially in rapidly growing mid-market companies.

Penny targets such companies driven by governance needs, regardless of location or industry.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:45] Introducing Iyad Aldalooj from Penny.
[00:05:37] What makes Penny unique.
[00:09:09] Focusing on market size.
[00:13:24] Millennials and Gen Z's
[00:16:39] Automation of procurement work.
[00:19:27] Procurement software market complexities.
[00:24:03] Reseller as a unique product.
[00:29:14] Digitising the full value chain.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Iyad for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Iyad Aldalooj, Penny, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/iyad-aldalooj-a0694496/">Iyad Aldalooj on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://penny.co/">Penny.</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Iyad Aldalooj, founder and CEO of Penny, a source-to-pay solution and B2B marketplace, based in Saudi Arabia. They discuss the challenges and nuances of the procurement technology space in the rapidly developing Middle East and Gulf region.

Tune in for an insightful conversation on the future of procurement in the Middle East.
<h2>The Procurement Technology Landscape in the Middle East</h2>
In this episode, Iyad underscores the need for user-centric design in enterprise software, aligning it with consumer app experiences like Uber.

Iyad critiques the persisting complexity and outdated interfaces in enterprise software and advocates for prioritising simplicity to enhance employee engagement and productivity. Using Penny as an example, he showcases how a user-friendly approach can attract suppliers without extensive training.

The episode also discusses the importance of governance policies in procurement software, emphasising the values of saving, control, and efficiency. CEOs and CFOs are identified as advocates for digitising procurement to ensure compliance and governance, especially in rapidly growing mid-market companies.

Penny targets such companies driven by governance needs, regardless of location or industry.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:45] Introducing Iyad Aldalooj from Penny.
[00:05:37] What makes Penny unique.
[00:09:09] Focusing on market size.
[00:13:24] Millennials and Gen Z's
[00:16:39] Automation of procurement work.
[00:19:27] Procurement software market complexities.
[00:24:03] Reseller as a unique product.
[00:29:14] Digitising the full value chain.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Iyad for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Iyad Aldalooj, Penny, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/iyad-aldalooj-a0694496/">Iyad Aldalooj on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://penny.co/">Penny.</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7700132a-06fe-4524-b3c8-330c80e22273</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/09e50432-056f-4e02-a801-6f5d5098a0a2/Procuretech-ep-19-Iyad-Aldalooj-Penny-Software.mp3" length="32911366" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Contract Management for the Real World – Dominique Kindt from WITH</title><itunes:title>Contract Management for the Real World – Dominique Kindt from WITH</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads features Dominique Kindt, CEO and founder of consultancy With and Birdseye. Kindt developed a contract lifecycle management platform in response to the lack of effective solutions in the market. He believes that many companies focus too much on the pre-contract signing phase and neglect the post-signature phase, which is where 80% of contract lifecycle management occurs.
<h2><strong>Contract Lifecycle Management: A Deep Dive with Dominique Kindt, CEO and Founder of With and BirdsEye</strong></h2>
In this episode, the "holy triangle" concept for successful software implementation is discussed, emphasising a well-defined process, proper training, and optimal software utilisation. Merely purchasing licenses is insufficient; correct software usage within a clear process and training for employees are essential.

A well-defined process involves configuration, installation, and adoption, preventing underutilisation of the software. Proper training ensures user awareness and maximises the benefits of the process and visibility tools. Optimal software use provides visibility and must be facilitated for effective process execution.

Organisations should prioritise the holy triangle of process, software, and people rather than focusing solely on license acquisition. This holistic approach aims for visibility and effectiveness through process, software, and people alignment.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:00] Introducing Dominique Kindt CEO of With and Birdseye.
[00:03:40] Contract life cycle management.
[00:10:01] Post-signature contract lifecycle management.
[00:11:01] The Holy Triangle.
[00:14:09] Leveraging supplier relationships.
[00:18:20] Value leakage in contracts.
[00:22:10] Driving visibility with dashboarding.
[00:24:35] Procurement's added value in negotiations.
[00:28:11] Demoing platform features.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Dominique for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Dominique Kindt, Birdseye, WITH, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominiquekindt/?originalSubdomain=be">Dominique Kindt on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.with-services.com/">WITH</a> and <a href="https://www.birdseye.digital/">Birdseye</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads features Dominique Kindt, CEO and founder of consultancy With and Birdseye. Kindt developed a contract lifecycle management platform in response to the lack of effective solutions in the market. He believes that many companies focus too much on the pre-contract signing phase and neglect the post-signature phase, which is where 80% of contract lifecycle management occurs.
<h2><strong>Contract Lifecycle Management: A Deep Dive with Dominique Kindt, CEO and Founder of With and BirdsEye</strong></h2>
In this episode, the "holy triangle" concept for successful software implementation is discussed, emphasising a well-defined process, proper training, and optimal software utilisation. Merely purchasing licenses is insufficient; correct software usage within a clear process and training for employees are essential.

A well-defined process involves configuration, installation, and adoption, preventing underutilisation of the software. Proper training ensures user awareness and maximises the benefits of the process and visibility tools. Optimal software use provides visibility and must be facilitated for effective process execution.

Organisations should prioritise the holy triangle of process, software, and people rather than focusing solely on license acquisition. This holistic approach aims for visibility and effectiveness through process, software, and people alignment.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:00] Introducing Dominique Kindt CEO of With and Birdseye.
[00:03:40] Contract life cycle management.
[00:10:01] Post-signature contract lifecycle management.
[00:11:01] The Holy Triangle.
[00:14:09] Leveraging supplier relationships.
[00:18:20] Value leakage in contracts.
[00:22:10] Driving visibility with dashboarding.
[00:24:35] Procurement's added value in negotiations.
[00:28:11] Demoing platform features.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Dominique for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Dominique Kindt, Birdseye, WITH, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominiquekindt/?originalSubdomain=be">Dominique Kindt on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.with-services.com/">WITH</a> and <a href="https://www.birdseye.digital/">Birdseye</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cf2512b7-f145-4644-b1c6-cd0d6716f06a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ffff9f20-cc81-4b33-93ba-95ab96bd1e55/Procuretech-ep-18-Dominique-Kindt-Birdseye.mp3" length="29296437" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Generative AI and B2B Searches – David Doyle from Forestreet</title><itunes:title>Generative AI and B2B Searches – David Doyle from Forestreet</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads talks to David Doyle, the co-founder and CEO of Forestreet. David, coming from a tech background, explains how he identified a problem in the technology market research industry and decided to create an independent platform that utilises data analytics to overcome cognitive constraints.

The conversation dives into the genesis of Forestreet and its aim to provide an unbiased perspective for buyers in the procurement space.
<h2><strong>Generative AI and B2B Searches - David Doyle from Forestreet</strong></h2>
In this episode, David delves into generative AI, explaining how it creates content from learned patterns in various media. He emphasise the importance of choosing the right tool for specific tasks when using generative AI. While it excels as an assistant for tasks like policy writing, and offering content suggestions, its limitations are evident when accuracy is crucial, such as in sustainability policies.

The episode stresses that generative AI isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, advocating for a balanced approach by integrating it with other technologies. Notably useful in policy creation and idea generation, chat GPT showcases its role in crafting policy recommendations. However, the episode cautions against relying on generative AI for basic internet searches due to potential misinformation.

David underscores the value of a modular approach, suggesting a blend of generative AI with other tools to maximise outcomes while acknowledging each tool's limitations. The episode concludes by highlighting the importance of discerning when to use generative AI effectively, tailored to specific tasks for optimal results.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:10] Introducing David Doyle, CEO of Forestreet.
[00:03:36] Information outside the enterprise.
[00:08:01] Generative AI limitations and benefits.
[00:10:44] Technology as an automation tool.
[00:15:28] Excess capacity and space.
[00:18:14] Deployment of new tools.
[00:22:09] Data-driven decision making.
[00:25:01] Changing procurement function architecture.
[00:27:23] Business resource finding becoming urgent.
[00:31:54] The strengths and limitations of generative AI.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to David for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about David Doyle, Forestreet, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-doyle-forestreet/">David Doyle on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://forestreet.com/">forestreet.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads talks to David Doyle, the co-founder and CEO of Forestreet. David, coming from a tech background, explains how he identified a problem in the technology market research industry and decided to create an independent platform that utilises data analytics to overcome cognitive constraints.

The conversation dives into the genesis of Forestreet and its aim to provide an unbiased perspective for buyers in the procurement space.
<h2><strong>Generative AI and B2B Searches - David Doyle from Forestreet</strong></h2>
In this episode, David delves into generative AI, explaining how it creates content from learned patterns in various media. He emphasise the importance of choosing the right tool for specific tasks when using generative AI. While it excels as an assistant for tasks like policy writing, and offering content suggestions, its limitations are evident when accuracy is crucial, such as in sustainability policies.

The episode stresses that generative AI isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, advocating for a balanced approach by integrating it with other technologies. Notably useful in policy creation and idea generation, chat GPT showcases its role in crafting policy recommendations. However, the episode cautions against relying on generative AI for basic internet searches due to potential misinformation.

David underscores the value of a modular approach, suggesting a blend of generative AI with other tools to maximise outcomes while acknowledging each tool's limitations. The episode concludes by highlighting the importance of discerning when to use generative AI effectively, tailored to specific tasks for optimal results.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:02:10] Introducing David Doyle, CEO of Forestreet.
[00:03:36] Information outside the enterprise.
[00:08:01] Generative AI limitations and benefits.
[00:10:44] Technology as an automation tool.
[00:15:28] Excess capacity and space.
[00:18:14] Deployment of new tools.
[00:22:09] Data-driven decision making.
[00:25:01] Changing procurement function architecture.
[00:27:23] Business resource finding becoming urgent.
[00:31:54] The strengths and limitations of generative AI.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to David for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about David Doyle, Forestreet, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-doyle-forestreet/">David Doyle on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://forestreet.com/">forestreet.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7c435b2f-886c-4146-8f65-5712641b6b52</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0618e409-125b-44ea-b580-fa8b87aacef8/Procuretech-ep-17-David-Doyle-Forestreet.mp3" length="33870165" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Smart Contracts for Services Procurement – Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger</title><itunes:title>Smart Contracts for Services Procurement – Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads focuses on how technology is shaping the future of the procurement profession with Jan Ellerbrock, founder and CEO of Swiss Smart Contract Platform trueLedger, who discusses smart contracting in the professional services space and how software can help manage services post-contract signature.

Jan's background is in insurance and management consulting, which inspired him to pursue entrepreneurship and found his own company.
<h2><strong>Smart Contracts for Services Procurement - Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger</strong></h2>
This episode explores the benefits of smart contracting in the professional services industry. Smart contracting ensures transparency, compliance, and savings of 10% to 25% on professional service spending.

The use of a smart contracting engine enables real-time tracking of progress, budget, and automatic invoice generation. By leveraging machine-executable smart contracts, organisations can maintain the latest contract versions and delivery tracking information. Focusing on the untapped potential after the contract signature helps prevent value erosion and improve efficiency.

Real-time cost tracking is essential to control overspending on service parts, allowing for immediate root cause analysis and issue detection. It also enables daily projections, proactive budget management, and better resource mix control. Access to real-time information enhances project management and cost control, mitigating unexpected expenses.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:57] Introducing Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger.
[00:06:27] Value erosion in professional services.
[00:09:02] Managing service contracts effectively.
[00:10:49] Collaboration and transparency in projects.
[00:14:18] Collaborating with vendors.
[00:18:27] Invoice automation and compliance.
[00:20:52] Resource Mix in Consulting Contracts.
[00:24:53] Efficiency gains in professional services.
[00:27:43] Procurement savings potential.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Jan for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Jan Ellerbrock, trueLedger, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-ellerbrock/">Jan Ellerbrock on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.trueledger.net/">net</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads focuses on how technology is shaping the future of the procurement profession with Jan Ellerbrock, founder and CEO of Swiss Smart Contract Platform trueLedger, who discusses smart contracting in the professional services space and how software can help manage services post-contract signature.

Jan's background is in insurance and management consulting, which inspired him to pursue entrepreneurship and found his own company.
<h2><strong>Smart Contracts for Services Procurement - Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger</strong></h2>
This episode explores the benefits of smart contracting in the professional services industry. Smart contracting ensures transparency, compliance, and savings of 10% to 25% on professional service spending.

The use of a smart contracting engine enables real-time tracking of progress, budget, and automatic invoice generation. By leveraging machine-executable smart contracts, organisations can maintain the latest contract versions and delivery tracking information. Focusing on the untapped potential after the contract signature helps prevent value erosion and improve efficiency.

Real-time cost tracking is essential to control overspending on service parts, allowing for immediate root cause analysis and issue detection. It also enables daily projections, proactive budget management, and better resource mix control. Access to real-time information enhances project management and cost control, mitigating unexpected expenses.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:57] Introducing Jan Ellerbrock from trueLedger.
[00:06:27] Value erosion in professional services.
[00:09:02] Managing service contracts effectively.
[00:10:49] Collaboration and transparency in projects.
[00:14:18] Collaborating with vendors.
[00:18:27] Invoice automation and compliance.
[00:20:52] Resource Mix in Consulting Contracts.
[00:24:53] Efficiency gains in professional services.
[00:27:43] Procurement savings potential.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Jan for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Jan Ellerbrock, trueLedger, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jan-ellerbrock/">Jan Ellerbrock on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.trueledger.net/">net</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">33b7e621-9d31-4f4c-a4aa-fca0c4bb9caf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b457f632-0e42-4ddb-ba59-ffdef5c9788d/Procuretech-ep-13-Jan-Ellerbock-trueLedger.mp3" length="30051935" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement Summit Live Interviews – Part 2: Corporate Procurement Leaders</title><itunes:title>Procurement Summit Live Interviews – Part 2: Corporate Procurement Leaders</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In the second part of our series of live interviews recorded at Procurement Summit in Hamburg, Germany, we dive this time into the practitioner side of digital transformation.

Discover how digital transformation and procurement tech is shaping modern procurement leadership, through the captivating stories of three great professionals who joined me in my VW camper van on the exhibition floor.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanja-ridder-7b8904149/">Tanja Ridder</a>,  Head of Commodity Group Procurement at <a href="https://bilstein.com/en/about-us/">ThyssenKrupp Bilstein</a>

Tanja shares her story about how she grew her career starting out as a purchasing clerk and working her way up through internal promotions. She's proof that it's possible to grow without going down the traditional university degree straight after school route. We discuss how that mix of operational and strategic experience has helped shape her career. Tanja has only been in her current role a few months, so we also explore some of the considerations for how to approach shaping a digital procurement strategy when starting a new role.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninabomberg/">Nina Bomberg</a>, Director of Global Indirect Procurement at <a href="https://www.dormakaba.com/us-en">dormakaba</a>

Nina and I have known each other for a while and she changed jobs in September last year. Our conversation looks at her journey of starting in a greenfield role in a relatively immature procurement organisation, especially from a digitisation standpoint.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mbruggmann/">Mario Bruggmann</a> - Social Procurement

Mario is based in Switzerland and is a freelance interim manager, typically taking on senior procurement &amp; supply chain roles for a few months at a time to bridge hiring gaps or to manage special project requirements. Mario's other passion though is what he calls Social Procurement - leveraging the power of social media to both build a personal brand and also to raise awareness of the procurement profession.

Through their stories, we witness the fusion of operational prowess and strategic vision, illuminating the multifaceted landscape of success in this dynamic field.

As the procurement landscape continues to evolve, their experiences provide invaluable insights into shaping digital strategies and propelling the profession forward.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In the second part of our series of live interviews recorded at Procurement Summit in Hamburg, Germany, we dive this time into the practitioner side of digital transformation.

Discover how digital transformation and procurement tech is shaping modern procurement leadership, through the captivating stories of three great professionals who joined me in my VW camper van on the exhibition floor.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanja-ridder-7b8904149/">Tanja Ridder</a>,  Head of Commodity Group Procurement at <a href="https://bilstein.com/en/about-us/">ThyssenKrupp Bilstein</a>

Tanja shares her story about how she grew her career starting out as a purchasing clerk and working her way up through internal promotions. She's proof that it's possible to grow without going down the traditional university degree straight after school route. We discuss how that mix of operational and strategic experience has helped shape her career. Tanja has only been in her current role a few months, so we also explore some of the considerations for how to approach shaping a digital procurement strategy when starting a new role.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninabomberg/">Nina Bomberg</a>, Director of Global Indirect Procurement at <a href="https://www.dormakaba.com/us-en">dormakaba</a>

Nina and I have known each other for a while and she changed jobs in September last year. Our conversation looks at her journey of starting in a greenfield role in a relatively immature procurement organisation, especially from a digitisation standpoint.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mbruggmann/">Mario Bruggmann</a> - Social Procurement

Mario is based in Switzerland and is a freelance interim manager, typically taking on senior procurement &amp; supply chain roles for a few months at a time to bridge hiring gaps or to manage special project requirements. Mario's other passion though is what he calls Social Procurement - leveraging the power of social media to both build a personal brand and also to raise awareness of the procurement profession.

Through their stories, we witness the fusion of operational prowess and strategic vision, illuminating the multifaceted landscape of success in this dynamic field.

As the procurement landscape continues to evolve, their experiences provide invaluable insights into shaping digital strategies and propelling the profession forward.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bdc8961e-5bbd-4e82-9885-2de9b44248d4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dce55cb9-1b76-42f8-88d5-fdf497d3a302/Procuretech-ep-15-Procurement-Summit-Live-Interviews-Part-2.mp3" length="42797773" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procuretech in Brazil &amp; Latin America – Leo Calvacanti from Linkana</title><itunes:title>Procuretech in Brazil &amp; Latin America – Leo Calvacanti from Linkana</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Leo Cavalcanti, CEO and founder of Linkana, a vendor master data management startup from Brazil.

The conversation revolves around the challenges and opportunities in the procurement and supply chain technology industry in Brazil and Latin America. Cavalcanti talks about the need for standardised supplier data management and explains how Linkana addresses this issue.
<h2><strong>Procuretech in Brazil &amp; Latin America - Leo Cavalcanti from Linkana</strong></h2>
In this episode, the focus is on the growth and investment in procurement and supply chain technology in Brazil and Latin America. Leo Cavalcanti from Linkana confirms this growth and highlights the emergence of local solutions in Brazil's ecosystem.

The Brazilian market, previously dominated by SAP Ariba, now faces competition from Coupa and GAP, indicating a promising future for procurement and supply chain tech in the region.

Leo introduces his company, Linkana, specialising in supplier data management solutions with a focus on Latin America and Brazil. He discusses the limitations of current approaches to handling supplier data in procurement technology and shares Linkana's strategy to address these challenges. He also explores the unique obstacles and advantages faced by procurement tech in Latin America, drawing comparisons to the European and North American markets.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:50] Introducing Leo Cavalcanti, CEO of Linkana.
[00:03:22] Procurement technology in Brazil.
[00:08:37] Slow adoption of procurement technology.
[00:17:04] Localisation key for successful expansion.
[00:20:23] Localisation is key for expansion.
[00:25:31] Implementing procurement technology is challenging.
[00:31:30] Future of procurement is data-driven.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Leo for joining us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about our guests, Linkana, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

<strong>Stay in touch!</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leoazca/">Leo Cavalcanti on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.linkana.com/">Linkana</a> online</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads welcomes Leo Cavalcanti, CEO and founder of Linkana, a vendor master data management startup from Brazil.

The conversation revolves around the challenges and opportunities in the procurement and supply chain technology industry in Brazil and Latin America. Cavalcanti talks about the need for standardised supplier data management and explains how Linkana addresses this issue.
<h2><strong>Procuretech in Brazil &amp; Latin America - Leo Cavalcanti from Linkana</strong></h2>
In this episode, the focus is on the growth and investment in procurement and supply chain technology in Brazil and Latin America. Leo Cavalcanti from Linkana confirms this growth and highlights the emergence of local solutions in Brazil's ecosystem.

The Brazilian market, previously dominated by SAP Ariba, now faces competition from Coupa and GAP, indicating a promising future for procurement and supply chain tech in the region.

Leo introduces his company, Linkana, specialising in supplier data management solutions with a focus on Latin America and Brazil. He discusses the limitations of current approaches to handling supplier data in procurement technology and shares Linkana's strategy to address these challenges. He also explores the unique obstacles and advantages faced by procurement tech in Latin America, drawing comparisons to the European and North American markets.

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>

[00:01:50] Introducing Leo Cavalcanti, CEO of Linkana.
[00:03:22] Procurement technology in Brazil.
[00:08:37] Slow adoption of procurement technology.
[00:17:04] Localisation key for successful expansion.
[00:20:23] Localisation is key for expansion.
[00:25:31] Implementing procurement technology is challenging.
[00:31:30] Future of procurement is data-driven.

And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Leo for joining us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about our guests, Linkana, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

<strong>Stay in touch!</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leoazca/">Leo Cavalcanti on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.linkana.com/">Linkana</a> online</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">badce1a6-cb59-4695-92ca-9836353161bb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/823213f8-fc54-48da-a325-3c2d5a7711e3/Procuretech-ep-14-Leo-Cavalcanti-Linkana.mp3" length="35277433" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement Summit Live Interviews – Part 1: Procurement Tech Companies</title><itunes:title>Procurement Summit Live Interviews – Part 1: Procurement Tech Companies</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In the world of cross-border supply chains and procurement processes, innovation is revolutionizing the way businesses operate.

In this exclusive interview series recorded live at the Procurement Summit, we dive into the minds of some visionary procuretech startup founders who are at the forefront of driving change in the industry.

First up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/romain-fayolle/">Romain Fayolle</a>, Founder and CEO of Holocene

<a href="https://www.holocene.eu/">Holocene</a> is a startup that optimises and automates logistics processes for cross-border supply chain. As I touch on in the interview, this has traditionally been a very manual process. Automation AND visibility in this space is much-needed, and it's great to come across innovation for this topic.

Next up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/beneering-christoph-moll/">Christoph Moll</a> of<a href="https://www.beneering.com/en/"> beNeering</a>. We often get frustrated as procurement professionals about incumbent ERP systems, and how inflexible or complicated they are to use because of their front end interface and vast array of features. The reality is though, companies aren't going to abandon them overnight. This conversation looks at making life easy with an intuitive front-end that seamlessly works in tandem with a SAP environment.

I then spoke to one of the industry stalwarts and one of the major sponsors of Procurement Summit, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/janhendriksohn/">Jan-Hendrik Sohn</a>, country manager DACH for <a href="https://www.ivalua.com/">Ivalua</a>. Even though I'm a huge fan of best-of-breed tech, this was actually a conversation I really enjoyed. It was really cool to get an understanding of how one of the established suites is positioning itself in such a rapidly changing market, and where they see their advantage and USP over some of their fierce competitors.

Keeping on the topic of Source-to-Pay, next up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eberhard-w-aust-65923412/">Eberhard Aust</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.ebidtopay.com/">ebidtopay</a>. They're a niche provider of S2P solutions for mid-market manufacturing businesses and their software does a LOT for its price point. They've been around a while but are really focusing on offering a suite-like set of features at a price point that doesn't require an enterprise software budget. Full disclosure, ebidtopay is one of our software partners at <a href="http://ProcurementSoftware.site">ProcurementSoftware.site</a>, and you can reach out to me if you'd like to learn more about them.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskunel/">Christoph Kunel</a>, COO of e-procurement platform <a href="https://www.crowdfox.pro/">Crowdfox</a> is next up. Catalogue procurement is not new technology. However, using generative AI - the same technology that powers ChatGPT - to assist and enhance the requisitioner's front end experience, is a simple but huge value add enhancement. He explains how "ProcureGPT" works in their platform.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In the world of cross-border supply chains and procurement processes, innovation is revolutionizing the way businesses operate.

In this exclusive interview series recorded live at the Procurement Summit, we dive into the minds of some visionary procuretech startup founders who are at the forefront of driving change in the industry.

First up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/romain-fayolle/">Romain Fayolle</a>, Founder and CEO of Holocene

<a href="https://www.holocene.eu/">Holocene</a> is a startup that optimises and automates logistics processes for cross-border supply chain. As I touch on in the interview, this has traditionally been a very manual process. Automation AND visibility in this space is much-needed, and it's great to come across innovation for this topic.

Next up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/beneering-christoph-moll/">Christoph Moll</a> of<a href="https://www.beneering.com/en/"> beNeering</a>. We often get frustrated as procurement professionals about incumbent ERP systems, and how inflexible or complicated they are to use because of their front end interface and vast array of features. The reality is though, companies aren't going to abandon them overnight. This conversation looks at making life easy with an intuitive front-end that seamlessly works in tandem with a SAP environment.

I then spoke to one of the industry stalwarts and one of the major sponsors of Procurement Summit, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/janhendriksohn/">Jan-Hendrik Sohn</a>, country manager DACH for <a href="https://www.ivalua.com/">Ivalua</a>. Even though I'm a huge fan of best-of-breed tech, this was actually a conversation I really enjoyed. It was really cool to get an understanding of how one of the established suites is positioning itself in such a rapidly changing market, and where they see their advantage and USP over some of their fierce competitors.

Keeping on the topic of Source-to-Pay, next up is <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eberhard-w-aust-65923412/">Eberhard Aust</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.ebidtopay.com/">ebidtopay</a>. They're a niche provider of S2P solutions for mid-market manufacturing businesses and their software does a LOT for its price point. They've been around a while but are really focusing on offering a suite-like set of features at a price point that doesn't require an enterprise software budget. Full disclosure, ebidtopay is one of our software partners at <a href="http://ProcurementSoftware.site">ProcurementSoftware.site</a>, and you can reach out to me if you'd like to learn more about them.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskunel/">Christoph Kunel</a>, COO of e-procurement platform <a href="https://www.crowdfox.pro/">Crowdfox</a> is next up. Catalogue procurement is not new technology. However, using generative AI - the same technology that powers ChatGPT - to assist and enhance the requisitioner's front end experience, is a simple but huge value add enhancement. He explains how "ProcureGPT" works in their platform.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">adaa006d-c959-4745-8ced-c3387c798a74</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7570adcd-3483-491a-9c65-05ebf3ecb25c/Procuretech-ep-13-Procurement-Summit-Live-Interviews-Part-1.mp3" length="62579782" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Supplier risk management within an S2P suite – Ward Karson from Raindrop</title><itunes:title>Supplier risk management within an S2P suite – Ward Karson from Raindrop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined once more by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

Today they discuss the pros and cons of tackling supplier risk management from within an S2P Suite.
<h2>Supplier Risk Management Within an S2P Suite – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
<strong><u>Timestamps</u></strong>

<strong>2:34</strong>

<strong>Background on Raindrop.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Introducing Raindrop.</li>
 	<li>UI, UX and speed of implementation.</li>
 	<li>The grand fallacy of the procurement industry.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>6:55</strong>

<strong>How long does it take to deploy a product?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>It takes 12-24 months to deploy a piece of software.</li>
 	<li>Deployment takes forever money.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>9:46</strong>

<strong>The problem with technical debt.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The grain fallacy of the procurement software industry.</li>
 	<li>How to prevent legacy providers from changing.</li>
 	<li>Rising tide lifts all boats.</li>
 	<li>The tech foundation of the company is important.</li>
 	<li>S2P and P2P software is complex.</li>
 	<li>The letter 'P'.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>15:56</strong>

<strong>Integration with other procurement systems.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Challenges of integrating with multiple technology solutions.</li>
 	<li>How to integrate with each technology solution provider.</li>
 	<li>Implementation of P2P tools for procurement and finance.</li>
 	<li>Procurement resource per minute.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>19:01</strong>

<strong>User interface user experience and integration.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The importance of quick and painless solutions.</li>
 	<li>How to make the procurement process quicker and easier.</li>
 	<li>User experience and why it matters.</li>
 	<li>B2B and B2C adoption of UX.</li>
 	<li>UI/UX is what is going to drive the industry.</li>
 	<li>The ERP industry needs more modernity.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>25:03</strong>

<strong>What are the structural and people problems?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Nobody gets fired for recommending IBM.</li>
 	<li>The age old conundrum.<strong> </strong></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>27:09</strong>

<strong>Ease of use solutions increase stakeholder adoption.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Mindset problem, not a capability or leadership issue.</li>
 	<li>B2B vs B2C, ease of use.</li>
 	<li>Benefits of ease of use solutions.</li>
 	<li>Reduce maverick spend, increase addressable spend and manage spend.</li>
 	<li>Self-service from stakeholders.</li>
 	<li>Reduce the transactional workload of procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>33:05</strong>

<strong>Why do you think large consultancies still partner with legacy technology?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Why the industry has not shifted.</li>
 	<li>Time and materials businesses need consultancy.</li>
 	<li>Risk cap, 20-30% risk factor for projects.</li>
 	<li>How do you fix the problems with legacy providers?</li>
 	<li>World class talent and the right change management strategy.</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Ward.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined once more by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

Today they discuss the pros and cons of tackling supplier risk management from within an S2P Suite.
<h2>Supplier Risk Management Within an S2P Suite – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
<strong><u>Timestamps</u></strong>

<strong>2:34</strong>

<strong>Background on Raindrop.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Introducing Raindrop.</li>
 	<li>UI, UX and speed of implementation.</li>
 	<li>The grand fallacy of the procurement industry.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>6:55</strong>

<strong>How long does it take to deploy a product?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>It takes 12-24 months to deploy a piece of software.</li>
 	<li>Deployment takes forever money.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>9:46</strong>

<strong>The problem with technical debt.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The grain fallacy of the procurement software industry.</li>
 	<li>How to prevent legacy providers from changing.</li>
 	<li>Rising tide lifts all boats.</li>
 	<li>The tech foundation of the company is important.</li>
 	<li>S2P and P2P software is complex.</li>
 	<li>The letter 'P'.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>15:56</strong>

<strong>Integration with other procurement systems.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Challenges of integrating with multiple technology solutions.</li>
 	<li>How to integrate with each technology solution provider.</li>
 	<li>Implementation of P2P tools for procurement and finance.</li>
 	<li>Procurement resource per minute.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>19:01</strong>

<strong>User interface user experience and integration.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The importance of quick and painless solutions.</li>
 	<li>How to make the procurement process quicker and easier.</li>
 	<li>User experience and why it matters.</li>
 	<li>B2B and B2C adoption of UX.</li>
 	<li>UI/UX is what is going to drive the industry.</li>
 	<li>The ERP industry needs more modernity.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>25:03</strong>

<strong>What are the structural and people problems?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Nobody gets fired for recommending IBM.</li>
 	<li>The age old conundrum.<strong> </strong></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>27:09</strong>

<strong>Ease of use solutions increase stakeholder adoption.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Mindset problem, not a capability or leadership issue.</li>
 	<li>B2B vs B2C, ease of use.</li>
 	<li>Benefits of ease of use solutions.</li>
 	<li>Reduce maverick spend, increase addressable spend and manage spend.</li>
 	<li>Self-service from stakeholders.</li>
 	<li>Reduce the transactional workload of procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>33:05</strong>

<strong>Why do you think large consultancies still partner with legacy technology?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Why the industry has not shifted.</li>
 	<li>Time and materials businesses need consultancy.</li>
 	<li>Risk cap, 20-30% risk factor for projects.</li>
 	<li>How do you fix the problems with legacy providers?</li>
 	<li>World class talent and the right change management strategy.</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Ward.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1b94e15d-f06f-41f1-ba1f-f6b54cd082ef</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6182d46d-1b38-443c-ac65-b130839b9311/Procuretech-ep-12-Ward-Karson-Raindrop-3.mp3" length="40584261" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Customer Case Study – Nick Verkroost (Canopy) and Anna Williams (Unispace)</title><itunes:title>Customer Case Study – Nick Verkroost (Canopy) and Anna Williams (Unispace)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Host James Meads is joined by two guests, this week. Nick Vekroost is the CEO of procurement tech company Canopy. Anna Williams is head of procurement at the office design and build organisation Unispace, where Canopy has been successfully implemented.

This is a rare opportunity to speak to a procurement tech provider <em>and </em>one of that provider's clients at the same time. We'll talk about their implementation journey, share their successes and hopefully give you some ammo for making a business case to your CFO or CEO.
<h3><strong>Customer Case Study – Nick Verkroost (Canopy) and Anna Williams (Unispace) </strong></h3>
<strong><u>Timestamps</u></strong>

<strong>
</strong><strong> 2:36</strong>

<strong>The challenges and advantages of working with a smaller organization vs a larger company.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Anna's journey in the early stage tech space.</li>
 	<li>Challenges and advantages of working with a smaller organization.</li>
 	<li>A huge learning curve.</li>
 	<li>Implementing canopy as a solution.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>7:56</strong>

<strong>What is the reach of Unispace? How many staff will have access to the data?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The reach of Canopy within Unispace.</li>
 	<li>How many staff will eventually have access to Canopy?</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>10:05</strong>

<strong>The supply chain is so critical to everybody's business.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>No business would survive without a supply chain.</li>
 	<li>The most important supplier in 2020.</li>
 	<li>Accounting for the system and building structures.</li>
 	<li>Integrating with different ERP systems.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>14:43</strong>

<strong>Canopy is like an intelligence layer that sits on top of ERP.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>ERP systems are rigid and need to be flexible.</li>
 	<li>Working with an API or third-party system.</li>
 	<li>Granular details of the Canopy platform.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 19:46</strong>

<strong>Risk management and Unispace</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What Unispace is all about.</li>
 	<li>Evolving towards a full-stack supplier risk management tool.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 22:23</strong>

<strong>Risk and the Canopy platform.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Risk is at the heart of every single profile on Canopy.</li>
 	<li>How Canopy connects with third party credit agencies and risk management platforms.</li>
 	<li>Bridging the gap between cloud-based and on-premise solutions.</li>
 	<li>The journey of using Canopy.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>28:54</strong>

<strong>When we say data, what do we mean?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What Canopy means by data, and why they break it down.</li>
 	<li>How Canopy works with customers.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Nick and Anna for joining us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about our guests, Canopy, Unispace or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickverkroost/?originalSubdomain=uk">Nick</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-williams-mcips/">Anna</a> on Linkedin</li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.team-canopy.com/">Canopy</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.unispace.com/">Unispace</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Host James Meads is joined by two guests, this week. Nick Vekroost is the CEO of procurement tech company Canopy. Anna Williams is head of procurement at the office design and build organisation Unispace, where Canopy has been successfully implemented.

This is a rare opportunity to speak to a procurement tech provider <em>and </em>one of that provider's clients at the same time. We'll talk about their implementation journey, share their successes and hopefully give you some ammo for making a business case to your CFO or CEO.
<h3><strong>Customer Case Study – Nick Verkroost (Canopy) and Anna Williams (Unispace) </strong></h3>
<strong><u>Timestamps</u></strong>

<strong>
</strong><strong> 2:36</strong>

<strong>The challenges and advantages of working with a smaller organization vs a larger company.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Anna's journey in the early stage tech space.</li>
 	<li>Challenges and advantages of working with a smaller organization.</li>
 	<li>A huge learning curve.</li>
 	<li>Implementing canopy as a solution.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>7:56</strong>

<strong>What is the reach of Unispace? How many staff will have access to the data?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The reach of Canopy within Unispace.</li>
 	<li>How many staff will eventually have access to Canopy?</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>10:05</strong>

<strong>The supply chain is so critical to everybody's business.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>No business would survive without a supply chain.</li>
 	<li>The most important supplier in 2020.</li>
 	<li>Accounting for the system and building structures.</li>
 	<li>Integrating with different ERP systems.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>14:43</strong>

<strong>Canopy is like an intelligence layer that sits on top of ERP.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>ERP systems are rigid and need to be flexible.</li>
 	<li>Working with an API or third-party system.</li>
 	<li>Granular details of the Canopy platform.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 19:46</strong>

<strong>Risk management and Unispace</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What Unispace is all about.</li>
 	<li>Evolving towards a full-stack supplier risk management tool.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 22:23</strong>

<strong>Risk and the Canopy platform.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Risk is at the heart of every single profile on Canopy.</li>
 	<li>How Canopy connects with third party credit agencies and risk management platforms.</li>
 	<li>Bridging the gap between cloud-based and on-premise solutions.</li>
 	<li>The journey of using Canopy.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>28:54</strong>

<strong>When we say data, what do we mean?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What Canopy means by data, and why they break it down.</li>
 	<li>How Canopy works with customers.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Nick and Anna for joining us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about our guests, Canopy, Unispace or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickverkroost/?originalSubdomain=uk">Nick</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-williams-mcips/">Anna</a> on Linkedin</li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.team-canopy.com/">Canopy</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://www.unispace.com/">Unispace</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">67f7c52e-5e62-46cf-a2e1-97c69901ae79</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1da03b50-8ddc-4ef0-8072-6222661c6eac/Procuretech-ep-11-Nick-Verkroost-Canopy.mp3" length="40289600" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Training to procurement SaaS – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</title><itunes:title>Training to procurement SaaS – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by a multiple published author, procurement training business owner and SaaS entrepreneur - Jonathan O'Brien, CEO of Positive Purchasing.

Jonathan is here to talk about the big changes he's witnessed in the industry over the last 20 years, and to look forward to the future of digital procurement.
<h2>Training to procurement SaaS – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</h2>
<h3><u>Timestamps</u></h3>
<strong> 2:19</strong>

<strong>What are the biggest changes in procurement over the past 20 years?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Biggest changes in procurement over the past 20 years.</li>
 	<li>Cost focus and recognition.</li>
 	<li>Mitigating price rises and deflation.</li>
 	<li>Conversations with procurement and sales teams.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 8:27</strong>

<strong>How much of the transformation has been accelerated by the pandemic, and how much has been a more general transition away from in person work?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Transition from in-person negotiation to digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>Sustainability, supply chain risk, digital transformation and visibility.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>10:34</strong>

<strong>How to get people to engage with online training.</strong>

Building a broadcast studio for live online instructor-led training.
<ul>
 	<li>Adoption of technology during the pandemic.</li>
 	<li>Online training needs to be high-energy and engaging.</li>
 	<li>The backlash against remote work.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>15:28</strong>

<strong>How digital transformation is <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/tech-procurement-training/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="14">impacting the travel and training</a> category.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Making travel essential rather than nice.</li>
 	<li>Budgeting for training and digital transformation.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>18:21</strong>

<strong>How do you convince your CFO to invest in digital transformation?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How to convince CFOs to invest in procurement.</li>
 	<li>The 10% of value from procurement.</li>
 	<li>The snakes and ladders board of digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>Five books on procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>24:07</strong>

<strong>What’s going to replace category management in this digital world?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Category management is the first step.</li>
 	<li>A tool that combines artificial intelligence and category strategy.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>27:06</strong>

<strong>How to get stakeholders to buy into the fact that procurement is steering the direction.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Adoption of category management is still early.</li>
 	<li>Why most companies are first-base on category management.</li>
 	<li>Changing hearts and minds to do category management.</li>
 	<li>The most painful thing about category strategies.</li>
 	<li>How technology can help procurement professionals embed sustainability principles.</li>
 	<li>Sustainability in the supply chain.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Jonathan for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Jonathan, Positive Purchasing, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanobrien-at-positive-purchasing/?originalSubdomain=uk">Jonathan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://positivepurchasing.com/">Positive Purchasing</a> online</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by a multiple published author, procurement training business owner and SaaS entrepreneur - Jonathan O'Brien, CEO of Positive Purchasing.

Jonathan is here to talk about the big changes he's witnessed in the industry over the last 20 years, and to look forward to the future of digital procurement.
<h2>Training to procurement SaaS – Jonathan O’Brien from Positive Purchasing</h2>
<h3><u>Timestamps</u></h3>
<strong> 2:19</strong>

<strong>What are the biggest changes in procurement over the past 20 years?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Biggest changes in procurement over the past 20 years.</li>
 	<li>Cost focus and recognition.</li>
 	<li>Mitigating price rises and deflation.</li>
 	<li>Conversations with procurement and sales teams.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong> 8:27</strong>

<strong>How much of the transformation has been accelerated by the pandemic, and how much has been a more general transition away from in person work?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Transition from in-person negotiation to digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>Sustainability, supply chain risk, digital transformation and visibility.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>10:34</strong>

<strong>How to get people to engage with online training.</strong>

Building a broadcast studio for live online instructor-led training.
<ul>
 	<li>Adoption of technology during the pandemic.</li>
 	<li>Online training needs to be high-energy and engaging.</li>
 	<li>The backlash against remote work.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>15:28</strong>

<strong>How digital transformation is <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/tech-procurement-training/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="14">impacting the travel and training</a> category.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Making travel essential rather than nice.</li>
 	<li>Budgeting for training and digital transformation.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>18:21</strong>

<strong>How do you convince your CFO to invest in digital transformation?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How to convince CFOs to invest in procurement.</li>
 	<li>The 10% of value from procurement.</li>
 	<li>The snakes and ladders board of digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>Five books on procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>24:07</strong>

<strong>What’s going to replace category management in this digital world?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Category management is the first step.</li>
 	<li>A tool that combines artificial intelligence and category strategy.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>27:06</strong>

<strong>How to get stakeholders to buy into the fact that procurement is steering the direction.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Adoption of category management is still early.</li>
 	<li>Why most companies are first-base on category management.</li>
 	<li>Changing hearts and minds to do category management.</li>
 	<li>The most painful thing about category strategies.</li>
 	<li>How technology can help procurement professionals embed sustainability principles.</li>
 	<li>Sustainability in the supply chain.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Jonathan for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Jonathan, Positive Purchasing, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanobrien-at-positive-purchasing/?originalSubdomain=uk">Jonathan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://positivepurchasing.com/">Positive Purchasing</a> online</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bfa0852b-699d-495e-ae8e-aa6d315a0f4b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/84a3ab0f-1bb6-4f80-9ec4-d049a8afbb30/Procuretech-ep-10-Jonathan-O-Brien-Positive-Purchasing.mp3" length="39868715" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>ESG and Sustainable Supply Chain – Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco</title><itunes:title>ESG and Sustainable Supply Chain – Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by old friend and procuretech founder Sheldon Mydat - CEO of Suppeco.

Sheldon is here to talk about ESG and sustainability, as well as sharing his thoughts on the current digital procurement landscape.
<h2>ESG and Sustainable Supply Chain – Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco</h2>
<h3><u>Timestamps</u></h3>
<strong>2:01</strong>

<strong>Sheldon’s career to date</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>A quick overview of Sheldon's career.</li>
 	<li>How Sheldon became a startup founder.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>4:18</strong>

<strong>What is the difference between the Suppeco platform and other ESG platforms?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Nailing the jelly to the wall.</li>
 	<li>How Suppeco differs from other ESG platforms.</li>
 	<li>The differentiator for Suppeco is relationships.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>8:3</strong><a href="https://otter.ai/u/r7ubItm5gYPnSBXQiLg1E2NK1WQ?tab=summary&amp;t=517s"><strong>7</strong></a>

<strong>The further you go along the supply chain, the smaller the companies become...</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Working with smaller organisations in the supply chain.</li>
 	<li>Current challenges in the industry.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>11:25</strong>

<strong>How the Suppeco platform is designed to be collaborative </strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Creating a truly collaborative platform.</li>
 	<li>Stakeholder mapping to control the flow of data.</li>
 	<li>Third-party auditors brought straight into the platform.</li>
 	<li>Creating a different experience for the user.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>17:13</strong>

<strong>How is this different from a documents repository like SharePoint?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Getting auditors involved in the negotiation process.</li>
 	<li>Keeping confidentiality in a modern supply chain.</li>
 	<li>Using live data to drive compliance.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>20:06</strong>

<strong>What are the cornerstone functionalities that hang together to make this work?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Keystone functionalities to make this work.</li>
 	<li>The value of process automation.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>22:53</strong>

<strong>What’s the future of procurement technology?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Two approaches to implementation, fast implementation or end-to-end solution.</li>
 	<li>E-sourcing platforms in the procurement landscape.</li>
 	<li>Partnerships and alliances are the future of procurement technology.</li>
 	<li>Examples of use cases for Suppeco.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>28:27</strong>

<strong>The value is in the narrative, not the numbers.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Examples of big systems driving relationship-driven performance improvement.</li>
 	<li>Examples of smaller systems driving value.</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Sheldon.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Sheldon for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Sheldon, Suppeco or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/?originalSubdomain=uk">Sheldon on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://suppeco.com/">Suppeco</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by old friend and procuretech founder Sheldon Mydat - CEO of Suppeco.

Sheldon is here to talk about ESG and sustainability, as well as sharing his thoughts on the current digital procurement landscape.
<h2>ESG and Sustainable Supply Chain – Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco</h2>
<h3><u>Timestamps</u></h3>
<strong>2:01</strong>

<strong>Sheldon’s career to date</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>A quick overview of Sheldon's career.</li>
 	<li>How Sheldon became a startup founder.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>4:18</strong>

<strong>What is the difference between the Suppeco platform and other ESG platforms?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Nailing the jelly to the wall.</li>
 	<li>How Suppeco differs from other ESG platforms.</li>
 	<li>The differentiator for Suppeco is relationships.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>8:3</strong><a href="https://otter.ai/u/r7ubItm5gYPnSBXQiLg1E2NK1WQ?tab=summary&amp;t=517s"><strong>7</strong></a>

<strong>The further you go along the supply chain, the smaller the companies become...</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Working with smaller organisations in the supply chain.</li>
 	<li>Current challenges in the industry.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>11:25</strong>

<strong>How the Suppeco platform is designed to be collaborative </strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Creating a truly collaborative platform.</li>
 	<li>Stakeholder mapping to control the flow of data.</li>
 	<li>Third-party auditors brought straight into the platform.</li>
 	<li>Creating a different experience for the user.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>17:13</strong>

<strong>How is this different from a documents repository like SharePoint?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Getting auditors involved in the negotiation process.</li>
 	<li>Keeping confidentiality in a modern supply chain.</li>
 	<li>Using live data to drive compliance.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>20:06</strong>

<strong>What are the cornerstone functionalities that hang together to make this work?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Keystone functionalities to make this work.</li>
 	<li>The value of process automation.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>22:53</strong>

<strong>What’s the future of procurement technology?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Two approaches to implementation, fast implementation or end-to-end solution.</li>
 	<li>E-sourcing platforms in the procurement landscape.</li>
 	<li>Partnerships and alliances are the future of procurement technology.</li>
 	<li>Examples of use cases for Suppeco.</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>28:27</strong>

<strong>The value is in the narrative, not the numbers.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Examples of big systems driving relationship-driven performance improvement.</li>
 	<li>Examples of smaller systems driving value.</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Sheldon.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Sheldon for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Sheldon, Suppeco or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.

&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/?originalSubdomain=uk">Sheldon on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://suppeco.com/">Suppeco</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">46e430f2-5e1f-4320-bcdf-b965e827f6a2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7be22ba0-634b-401e-af1a-4f4fa36740f8/Procuretech-ep-9-Sheldon-Mydat-Suppeco.mp3" length="36111262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement in the Metaverse – Clive R. Heal from Lavenir.ai</title><itunes:title>Procurement in the Metaverse – Clive R. Heal from Lavenir.ai</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode of The Procuretech Podcast, Clive Heal, CEO of LavenirAI is my guest.

Clive is here to introduce a cool new startup idea he's been working on, as well as sharing his thoughts on the current digital procurement landscape.
<h2>Procurement and the Metaverse – Clive Heal from LavenirAI</h2>
<h3><strong><u>Timestamps:</u></strong></h3>
2:36

<strong>How did Clive get started in the industry?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>From R&amp;D to sales and marketing</li>
 	<li>Lavenir AI, his startup, uses AI and virtual avatars for ongoing negotiation training.</li>
</ul><br/>
7:02

<strong>What is the metaverse? And what is the procurement metaverse?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What the metaverse is, and how it works.</li>
 	<li>What the procurement metaverse will be like.</li>
 	<li>Clive's prediction that all procuretech will have an existence in the metaverse.</li>
 	<li>The metaverse is being developed on both consumer and commercial sides.</li>
</ul><br/>
11:45

<strong>The benefits of the VR world.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>VR is just one example of the metaverse from a procurement perspective.</li>
 	<li>The future of VR, and how it will change the world.</li>
 	<li>Adoption of the metaverse on the consumer and the socialising side.</li>
 	<li>The future of procurement, sourcing, contract management and risk assessments in a world of VR and the metaverse.</li>
</ul><br/>
18:10

<strong>Innovation adopt</strong><strong>ion and the innovation gap.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Innovation chasm between innovators and early adopters.</li>
 	<li>Procurement people tend to be risk adverse.</li>
 	<li>Technology is a great catalyst for change.</li>
 	<li>Procurement can often feel ultra-conservative.</li>
</ul><br/>
22:54

<strong>Taking the example of the introduction of the cell phone</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The first cell phone and the first laptop.</li>
 	<li>How technology changes over time.</li>
</ul><br/>
24:45

<strong>Wil</strong><strong>l AI ever take over from human negotiators?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Lavenir.AI touches on negotiation and negotiation training.</li>
 	<li>Will AI take over from humans?</li>
 	<li>Factors to consider when negotiating with alternative suppliers.</li>
 	<li>AI is about first insight.</li>
</ul><br/>
29:06

<strong>The opportunity to create value in new ways.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>AI creates the opportunity to create value in new ways.</li>
 	<li>Negotiation training is an ongoing process.</li>
 	<li>The difference between theory and practice in the sales process.</li>
 	<li>The future of the sales avatar.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Clive for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Clive, Lavenir.ai, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/clive-heal-fcips-2936552/">Clive on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://lavenirai.com/">Lavenir.ai</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this week's episode of The Procuretech Podcast, Clive Heal, CEO of LavenirAI is my guest.

Clive is here to introduce a cool new startup idea he's been working on, as well as sharing his thoughts on the current digital procurement landscape.
<h2>Procurement and the Metaverse – Clive Heal from LavenirAI</h2>
<h3><strong><u>Timestamps:</u></strong></h3>
2:36

<strong>How did Clive get started in the industry?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>From R&amp;D to sales and marketing</li>
 	<li>Lavenir AI, his startup, uses AI and virtual avatars for ongoing negotiation training.</li>
</ul><br/>
7:02

<strong>What is the metaverse? And what is the procurement metaverse?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What the metaverse is, and how it works.</li>
 	<li>What the procurement metaverse will be like.</li>
 	<li>Clive's prediction that all procuretech will have an existence in the metaverse.</li>
 	<li>The metaverse is being developed on both consumer and commercial sides.</li>
</ul><br/>
11:45

<strong>The benefits of the VR world.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>VR is just one example of the metaverse from a procurement perspective.</li>
 	<li>The future of VR, and how it will change the world.</li>
 	<li>Adoption of the metaverse on the consumer and the socialising side.</li>
 	<li>The future of procurement, sourcing, contract management and risk assessments in a world of VR and the metaverse.</li>
</ul><br/>
18:10

<strong>Innovation adopt</strong><strong>ion and the innovation gap.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Innovation chasm between innovators and early adopters.</li>
 	<li>Procurement people tend to be risk adverse.</li>
 	<li>Technology is a great catalyst for change.</li>
 	<li>Procurement can often feel ultra-conservative.</li>
</ul><br/>
22:54

<strong>Taking the example of the introduction of the cell phone</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The first cell phone and the first laptop.</li>
 	<li>How technology changes over time.</li>
</ul><br/>
24:45

<strong>Wil</strong><strong>l AI ever take over from human negotiators?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Lavenir.AI touches on negotiation and negotiation training.</li>
 	<li>Will AI take over from humans?</li>
 	<li>Factors to consider when negotiating with alternative suppliers.</li>
 	<li>AI is about first insight.</li>
</ul><br/>
29:06

<strong>The opportunity to create value in new ways.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>AI creates the opportunity to create value in new ways.</li>
 	<li>Negotiation training is an ongoing process.</li>
 	<li>The difference between theory and practice in the sales process.</li>
 	<li>The future of the sales avatar.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast.

Thanks to Clive for sharing his thoughts with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Clive, Lavenir.ai, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/clive-heal-fcips-2936552/">Clive on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://lavenirai.com/">Lavenir.ai</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d22942db-e5cd-49e3-8556-456b6605f50a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1985ab2a-297f-443e-a4ec-8a8271b4cdca/Procuretech-ep-8-Clive-Heal-Lavenir.mp3" length="43272157" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Importance of UI/UX and fast implementation – Ward Karson from Raindrop</title><itunes:title>Importance of UI/UX and fast implementation – Ward Karson from Raindrop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined again by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

Today they discuss the different considerations you should take when sourcing procurement technology, and what sort of questions you should be asking of your technology providers.
<h2>Sourcing Procurement Technology – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
3:06

<strong>How did you get started in procurement?</strong>

Getting started in procurement 30 years ago.
<ul>
 	<li>The third leg of the stool, the environment.</li>
 	<li>Raindrop as a full suite enterprise spend management solution.</li>
 	<li>Three steps to consider when buying a solution.</li>
</ul><br/>
6:21

<strong>Pricing should not be the driving factor in choosing a procurement tech solution.</strong>

The first step back and answer to the question.
<ul>
 	<li>Risk is a big thing.</li>
 	<li>How the cost can creep up over the lifetime of the contract.</li>
 	<li>The typical payback or ROI: what to look for</li>
</ul><br/>
11:28

<strong>The difference between up front cost and ongoing support.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Different providers and how they might be set up from a cost and implementation perspective.</li>
 	<li>The difference between the initial investment, and the cost for ongoing support.</li>
</ul><br/>
13:30

<strong>How do you validate user experience?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Validate user experience, ease of use, lack of complexity.</li>
 	<li>Procurement experience, making UI right.</li>
 	<li>The new wave of procurement leaders and what they're looking for.</li>
 	<li>Deployment speed to value and overall ease of use.</li>
</ul><br/>
17:13

<strong>How to know if your software is up to standard</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How to know if a solution is right for you.</li>
 	<li>How to adapt to the needs of your business.</li>
 	<li>A more philosophical approach to procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
22:05

<strong>How important are analyst reports to the wider market?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Are reports such as Gartner Magic Quadrants useful for research and due diligence purposes?</li>
 	<li>How the analyst firm is different from the wider market.</li>
 	<li>The great fallacy of defining a leader as a leader.</li>
</ul><br/>
25:04

<strong>How to choose the right vendor.</strong>

Comparing RFPs to online dating.
<ul>
 	<li>The risk of being too dependent on RFP.</li>
 	<li>Providing value to the potential customer.</li>
 	<li>Leadership of a procurement software company.</li>
</ul><br/>
28:27

<strong>How do you know if you've never sat in my chair?</strong>

Authenticity is important in the procurement industry.
<ul>
 	<li>The second level discussions.</li>
 	<li>The gap between the CEO and the COO.</li>
 	<li>The importance of having procurement experience.</li>
</ul><br/>
<u>34:00 </u>

<strong>Full suite vs. Best of breed </strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Technical implementation</li>
 	<li>How do newer best of breeds stand up to more established solutions?</li>
 	<li>The argument that full suites have lower overall implementation costs</li>
</ul><br/>
<u>40:42</u>

<strong>What is the optimum length of a contract for procurement software?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Long term contracts reduce the risk of repricing at renewal</li>
 	<li>Why three years is Ward's perfect contract length</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Ward and find out more about Raindrop</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://form.jotform.com/231485003880352">Book a demo with Raindrop here</a></li>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of The Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined again by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

Today they discuss the different considerations you should take when sourcing procurement technology, and what sort of questions you should be asking of your technology providers.
<h2>Sourcing Procurement Technology – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
<h3><strong>Timestamps:</strong></h3>
3:06

<strong>How did you get started in procurement?</strong>

Getting started in procurement 30 years ago.
<ul>
 	<li>The third leg of the stool, the environment.</li>
 	<li>Raindrop as a full suite enterprise spend management solution.</li>
 	<li>Three steps to consider when buying a solution.</li>
</ul><br/>
6:21

<strong>Pricing should not be the driving factor in choosing a procurement tech solution.</strong>

The first step back and answer to the question.
<ul>
 	<li>Risk is a big thing.</li>
 	<li>How the cost can creep up over the lifetime of the contract.</li>
 	<li>The typical payback or ROI: what to look for</li>
</ul><br/>
11:28

<strong>The difference between up front cost and ongoing support.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Different providers and how they might be set up from a cost and implementation perspective.</li>
 	<li>The difference between the initial investment, and the cost for ongoing support.</li>
</ul><br/>
13:30

<strong>How do you validate user experience?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Validate user experience, ease of use, lack of complexity.</li>
 	<li>Procurement experience, making UI right.</li>
 	<li>The new wave of procurement leaders and what they're looking for.</li>
 	<li>Deployment speed to value and overall ease of use.</li>
</ul><br/>
17:13

<strong>How to know if your software is up to standard</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How to know if a solution is right for you.</li>
 	<li>How to adapt to the needs of your business.</li>
 	<li>A more philosophical approach to procurement.</li>
</ul><br/>
22:05

<strong>How important are analyst reports to the wider market?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Are reports such as Gartner Magic Quadrants useful for research and due diligence purposes?</li>
 	<li>How the analyst firm is different from the wider market.</li>
 	<li>The great fallacy of defining a leader as a leader.</li>
</ul><br/>
25:04

<strong>How to choose the right vendor.</strong>

Comparing RFPs to online dating.
<ul>
 	<li>The risk of being too dependent on RFP.</li>
 	<li>Providing value to the potential customer.</li>
 	<li>Leadership of a procurement software company.</li>
</ul><br/>
28:27

<strong>How do you know if you've never sat in my chair?</strong>

Authenticity is important in the procurement industry.
<ul>
 	<li>The second level discussions.</li>
 	<li>The gap between the CEO and the COO.</li>
 	<li>The importance of having procurement experience.</li>
</ul><br/>
<u>34:00 </u>

<strong>Full suite vs. Best of breed </strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Technical implementation</li>
 	<li>How do newer best of breeds stand up to more established solutions?</li>
 	<li>The argument that full suites have lower overall implementation costs</li>
</ul><br/>
<u>40:42</u>

<strong>What is the optimum length of a contract for procurement software?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Long term contracts reduce the risk of repricing at renewal</li>
 	<li>Why three years is Ward's perfect contract length</li>
 	<li>How to get in touch with Ward and find out more about Raindrop</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://form.jotform.com/231485003880352">Book a demo with Raindrop here</a></li>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop.com</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">27985e97-393f-4a65-966e-6058aaf8516d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ed1e1a78-f5f2-41d7-8bac-ac87c7024396/Procuretech-ep-7-Ward-Karson-Raidrop-2.mp3" length="42979585" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Building your Personal Brand – Tom Mills from Procurement Bites</title><itunes:title>Building your Personal Brand – Tom Mills from Procurement Bites</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the show, host James Meads is joined by LinkedIn "royalty" Tom Mills. Tom is Head of Procurement at Bibby Financial Services and runs his own Substack newsletter called Procurement Bites.
<h2>Personal Branding in Digital Procurement – Tom Mills</h2>
He's built a great personal brand online and has over 30,000 followers on LinkedIn. He's here to share some advice on personal branding, the digital procurement market and how building your brand can really help you to own and shape both your personal and career development.
<h3><strong><u>Timestamps:</u></strong></h3>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=125s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2:04</a>

<strong>A unique blend of direct and indirect buying.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>A unique blend of direct and indirect buying.</li>
 	<li>How procurement can be done badly.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=251s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">4:11</a>

<strong>Why do you need a personal brand?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Building a personal brand in the procurement industry.</li>
 	<li>The personal brand is important.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=400s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">6:39</a>

<strong>The definition of a personal brand.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Building a personal brand is about building a personality.</li>
 	<li>Personal brand is not fake.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=568s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">9:27</a>

<strong>Using social media to help others learn.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Mentors and influencers in the early 2000s procurement space.</li>
 	<li>Formal learning and development.</li>
 	<li>Procurement professionals need to develop a network.</li>
 	<li>Prioritise and prioritise.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=906s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">15:06</a>

<strong>Online resources for building your network.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Virtual content, procurement &amp; supply chain conferences and online resources.</li>
 	<li>The difference between 20 years ago and the situation now.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1065s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">17:44</a>

<strong>Is CIPS (or any other qualification) necessary?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>It's <em>one </em>option but shouldn't be seen as the <em>only </em>option.</li>
 	<li>Growth of CIPS in the Middle East and Africa.</li>
 	<li>Tackling the topic of the "procurement dinosaur".</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1222s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">20:21</a>

<strong>The problem with the dinosaur metaphor.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The two-fold age metaphor for procurement.</li>
 	<li>The importance of being very clear.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1375s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">22:54</a>

<strong>Who do you stand for against?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Tom and James discuss a few things that they stand for and against.</li>
 	<li>What are the most lacking skills in procurement?</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1520s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">25:19</a>

<strong>The role of internal processes and governance in procurement.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The biggest challenge in driving digital transformation in procurement.</li>
 	<li>The four options to drive digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>One wish to drive procurement into the 21st century.</li>
 	<li>How to connect with Tom.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Tom for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Tom or get in touch with us, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-mills-procurement/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tom on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://procurementprotagonist.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tom on substack</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the show, host James Meads is joined by LinkedIn "royalty" Tom Mills. Tom is Head of Procurement at Bibby Financial Services and runs his own Substack newsletter called Procurement Bites.
<h2>Personal Branding in Digital Procurement – Tom Mills</h2>
He's built a great personal brand online and has over 30,000 followers on LinkedIn. He's here to share some advice on personal branding, the digital procurement market and how building your brand can really help you to own and shape both your personal and career development.
<h3><strong><u>Timestamps:</u></strong></h3>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=125s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">2:04</a>

<strong>A unique blend of direct and indirect buying.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>A unique blend of direct and indirect buying.</li>
 	<li>How procurement can be done badly.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=251s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">4:11</a>

<strong>Why do you need a personal brand?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Building a personal brand in the procurement industry.</li>
 	<li>The personal brand is important.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=400s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">6:39</a>

<strong>The definition of a personal brand.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Building a personal brand is about building a personality.</li>
 	<li>Personal brand is not fake.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=568s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">9:27</a>

<strong>Using social media to help others learn.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Mentors and influencers in the early 2000s procurement space.</li>
 	<li>Formal learning and development.</li>
 	<li>Procurement professionals need to develop a network.</li>
 	<li>Prioritise and prioritise.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=906s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">15:06</a>

<strong>Online resources for building your network.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Virtual content, procurement &amp; supply chain conferences and online resources.</li>
 	<li>The difference between 20 years ago and the situation now.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1065s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">17:44</a>

<strong>Is CIPS (or any other qualification) necessary?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>It's <em>one </em>option but shouldn't be seen as the <em>only </em>option.</li>
 	<li>Growth of CIPS in the Middle East and Africa.</li>
 	<li>Tackling the topic of the "procurement dinosaur".</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1222s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">20:21</a>

<strong>The problem with the dinosaur metaphor.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The two-fold age metaphor for procurement.</li>
 	<li>The importance of being very clear.</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1375s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">22:54</a>

<strong>Who do you stand for against?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Tom and James discuss a few things that they stand for and against.</li>
 	<li>What are the most lacking skills in procurement?</li>
</ul><br/>
<a href="https://otter.ai/u/0h892Yl1cbhQHXF5PjxrZgwYo3s?tab=summary&amp;t=1520s" target="_blank" rel="noopener">25:19</a>

<strong>The role of internal processes and governance in procurement.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The biggest challenge in driving digital transformation in procurement.</li>
 	<li>The four options to drive digital transformation.</li>
 	<li>One wish to drive procurement into the 21st century.</li>
 	<li>How to connect with Tom.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Tom for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Tom or get in touch with us, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-mills-procurement/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tom on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://procurementprotagonist.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tom on substack</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cc583344-801f-47bb-98c8-80860d707779</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cb16bbe7-5e7c-440d-a16f-afa3e90718d1/Procuretech-ep-6-Tom-Mills-Procurement-Bites.mp3" length="30222635" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Funding tips for Procuretechs – Ruth Cremer from Entrepreneurial Education</title><itunes:title>Funding tips for Procuretechs – Ruth Cremer from Entrepreneurial Education</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Ruth Cremer.

Ruth is a former investment manager for IT startups at Europe's most active seed investor. She's also an adviser to the German version of the famous TV series Dragon's Den (or Shark Tank, for US listeners).

She joins James for a conversation about how startups should behave when applying for funding, her new book, and why numbers are sexy.
<h2>Funding tips for Procuretechs – Ruth Cremer from Entrepreneurial Education</h2>
<h3>Timestamps:</h3>
<strong>3:11</strong>

<strong>How did Ruth get into the field?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Starting her own business out of frustration and desperation.</li>
 	<li>Numbers are sexy, and procurement and supply chain is sexy too!</li>
 	<li>How much do venture capital companies know about the industries they are investing into?</li>
</ul><br/>
7:22

<strong>How to gain a profile by looking at specific industries?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Everyone has to start somewhere.</li>
 	<li>VCs tend to focus on either B2C or B2B products.</li>
</ul><br/>
9:17

<strong>What investors want in a pitch</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What investors want to see in a pitch.</li>
 	<li>The classic mistakes that founders typically make.</li>
 	<li>Making tech easy for non-tech savvy people to use.</li>
 	<li>The importance of having a broad mix.</li>
</ul><br/>
14:46

<strong>How big is the market for start-ups?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How big the market is for a start-up.</li>
 	<li>How to get to enterprise customers.</li>
</ul><br/>
16:46

<strong>Selling to small and medium-sized enterprises.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Easier for startups to sell to small and medium-sized enterprises.</li>
 	<li>The VC world and what they look for.</li>
</ul><br/>
19:17

<strong>The typical warning signs of a startup on the edge.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The typical warning signs of a potential startup.</li>
 	<li>Checking the business model.</li>
 	<li>How to do research on startups.</li>
 	<li>Resources for research on funding rounds.</li>
</ul><br/>
24:21

<strong>Looking at the number of employees and the growth.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Using LinkedIn to see if a company is growing too fast.</li>
 	<li>LinkedIn insights.</li>
</ul><br/>
26:41

<strong>How can corporates make it easier to work with startups?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How corporates can make it easier to work with startups.</li>
 	<li>Making the compliance process easier.</li>
 	<li>Start-ups can do something here.</li>
 	<li>How to learn more about Ruth.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ruth for sharing her insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Ruth or Procurement Education, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-cremer-1a58198b/?originalSubdomain=de">Ruth on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://ruthcremer.de/">Ruth's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Ruth Cremer.

Ruth is a former investment manager for IT startups at Europe's most active seed investor. She's also an adviser to the German version of the famous TV series Dragon's Den (or Shark Tank, for US listeners).

She joins James for a conversation about how startups should behave when applying for funding, her new book, and why numbers are sexy.
<h2>Funding tips for Procuretechs – Ruth Cremer from Entrepreneurial Education</h2>
<h3>Timestamps:</h3>
<strong>3:11</strong>

<strong>How did Ruth get into the field?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Starting her own business out of frustration and desperation.</li>
 	<li>Numbers are sexy, and procurement and supply chain is sexy too!</li>
 	<li>How much do venture capital companies know about the industries they are investing into?</li>
</ul><br/>
7:22

<strong>How to gain a profile by looking at specific industries?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Everyone has to start somewhere.</li>
 	<li>VCs tend to focus on either B2C or B2B products.</li>
</ul><br/>
9:17

<strong>What investors want in a pitch</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>What investors want to see in a pitch.</li>
 	<li>The classic mistakes that founders typically make.</li>
 	<li>Making tech easy for non-tech savvy people to use.</li>
 	<li>The importance of having a broad mix.</li>
</ul><br/>
14:46

<strong>How big is the market for start-ups?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How big the market is for a start-up.</li>
 	<li>How to get to enterprise customers.</li>
</ul><br/>
16:46

<strong>Selling to small and medium-sized enterprises.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Easier for startups to sell to small and medium-sized enterprises.</li>
 	<li>The VC world and what they look for.</li>
</ul><br/>
19:17

<strong>The typical warning signs of a startup on the edge.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>The typical warning signs of a potential startup.</li>
 	<li>Checking the business model.</li>
 	<li>How to do research on startups.</li>
 	<li>Resources for research on funding rounds.</li>
</ul><br/>
24:21

<strong>Looking at the number of employees and the growth.</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Using LinkedIn to see if a company is growing too fast.</li>
 	<li>LinkedIn insights.</li>
</ul><br/>
26:41

<strong>How can corporates make it easier to work with startups?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>How corporates can make it easier to work with startups.</li>
 	<li>Making the compliance process easier.</li>
 	<li>Start-ups can do something here.</li>
 	<li>How to learn more about Ruth.</li>
</ul><br/>
And that wraps up another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ruth for sharing her insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there!

If you want to learn more about Ruth or Procurement Education, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-cremer-1a58198b/?originalSubdomain=de">Ruth on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://ruthcremer.de/">Ruth's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">30c6acd9-6c95-4f57-9820-c78701f1d533</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/31dbb713-b7e8-43b5-b62e-c82cec374de7/Procuretech-ep-5-Ruth-Cremer-Entrepreneurial-Education.mp3" length="31938357" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Preparing For and Driving Change – Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</title><itunes:title>Preparing For and Driving Change – Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the ProcureTech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Joël Collin-Demers, Principal Consultant at Pure Procurement. The two discuss readiness for digital change in procurement versus the capacity for change.

Joel explains that he works with various customers on their digital initiatives and helps them optimise their processes and applications. He notes that while many companies are ready to make the jump to digital procurement, they often lack the capacity and resources to do so.
<h2><span data-sheets-value="{&quot;1&quot;:2,&quot;2&quot;:&quot;Importance of change management in digital transformation&quot;}" data-sheets-userformat="{&quot;2&quot;:513,&quot;3&quot;:{&quot;1&quot;:0},&quot;12&quot;:0}">Importance of change management in digital transformation</span></h2>
We discuss how companies should first assess their current system and make sure they have the necessary resources to make the switch. He also emphasises the importance of training and up-skilling the existing workforce so they can become more proficient in digital procurement.

Finally, he emphasises the importance of taking a holistic approach to digital transformation and ensuring that all departments are on the same page. Joël has been working in procurement and sourcing for over a decade and now runs his own business. He is passionate about finding the best combination of solutions for clients to help them reach their desired business outcomes. Each organisation has different needs based on their industry, budget, and constraints, so there is no one-size-fits-all solution.

James adds that when a CPO of a well-known company talks about a certain solution, it may be great for their organisation, but not necessarily for yours, so you need to consider the maturity, size, country, and degree of centralisation and maturity of your own organisation when making these type of decisions.
<h3>Readiness for change</h3>
This conversation focused on readiness for digital change.

There are five suggested components to consider:
<ol>
 	<li>Overall software budget</li>
 	<li>Your company culture</li>
 	<li>Available talent (or do you need to hire?)</li>
 	<li>Mindset of your team and stakeholders</li>
 	<li>Having a C-level sponsor.</li>
</ol><br/>
We then look at a framework for understanding readiness for digital change. This framework is composed of Awareness, Desire, Knowledge, Ability and Reinforcement.

Readiness for change means having an organisational attitude that is favourable to change and having an executive level sponsorship, mission vision, and a roadmap to follow.
<h3>Capacity to change</h3>
Capacity to change is an intangible element that includes knowledge and ability needed to successfully change.

The conversation discusses how organisations need to consider both attitude and capability when looking to make changes. This includes having a change management team, an understanding of the skills and knowledge needed, a conducive company culture, a sponsor and budget, a governance structure, and the ability to measure workload and improvement initiatives.

Additionally, the advantages of consulting backgrounds are discussed, as those who come from these backgrounds have seen many more businesses and have greater exposure to what "good" looks like.

Finally, the conversation touches on agility and how information flow and governance structures play a role in implementing changes.
<h3>Stay in Touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcollindemers/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Joël on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.pureprocurement.ca/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Pure Procurement's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the ProcureTech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Joël Collin-Demers, Principal Consultant at Pure Procurement. The two discuss readiness for digital change in procurement versus the capacity for change.

Joel explains that he works with various customers on their digital initiatives and helps them optimise their processes and applications. He notes that while many companies are ready to make the jump to digital procurement, they often lack the capacity and resources to do so.
<h2><span data-sheets-value="{&quot;1&quot;:2,&quot;2&quot;:&quot;Importance of change management in digital transformation&quot;}" data-sheets-userformat="{&quot;2&quot;:513,&quot;3&quot;:{&quot;1&quot;:0},&quot;12&quot;:0}">Importance of change management in digital transformation</span></h2>
We discuss how companies should first assess their current system and make sure they have the necessary resources to make the switch. He also emphasises the importance of training and up-skilling the existing workforce so they can become more proficient in digital procurement.

Finally, he emphasises the importance of taking a holistic approach to digital transformation and ensuring that all departments are on the same page. Joël has been working in procurement and sourcing for over a decade and now runs his own business. He is passionate about finding the best combination of solutions for clients to help them reach their desired business outcomes. Each organisation has different needs based on their industry, budget, and constraints, so there is no one-size-fits-all solution.

James adds that when a CPO of a well-known company talks about a certain solution, it may be great for their organisation, but not necessarily for yours, so you need to consider the maturity, size, country, and degree of centralisation and maturity of your own organisation when making these type of decisions.
<h3>Readiness for change</h3>
This conversation focused on readiness for digital change.

There are five suggested components to consider:
<ol>
 	<li>Overall software budget</li>
 	<li>Your company culture</li>
 	<li>Available talent (or do you need to hire?)</li>
 	<li>Mindset of your team and stakeholders</li>
 	<li>Having a C-level sponsor.</li>
</ol><br/>
We then look at a framework for understanding readiness for digital change. This framework is composed of Awareness, Desire, Knowledge, Ability and Reinforcement.

Readiness for change means having an organisational attitude that is favourable to change and having an executive level sponsorship, mission vision, and a roadmap to follow.
<h3>Capacity to change</h3>
Capacity to change is an intangible element that includes knowledge and ability needed to successfully change.

The conversation discusses how organisations need to consider both attitude and capability when looking to make changes. This includes having a change management team, an understanding of the skills and knowledge needed, a conducive company culture, a sponsor and budget, a governance structure, and the ability to measure workload and improvement initiatives.

Additionally, the advantages of consulting backgrounds are discussed, as those who come from these backgrounds have seen many more businesses and have greater exposure to what "good" looks like.

Finally, the conversation touches on agility and how information flow and governance structures play a role in implementing changes.
<h3>Stay in Touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcollindemers/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Joël on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.pureprocurement.ca/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Pure Procurement's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3e206630-1d8a-44ae-9a44-f102dba6ce81</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d439326c-8b51-417f-baca-82547f5c05f2/Procuretech-ep-4-Jo-l-Collin-Demers-Pure-Procurement.mp3" length="29473234" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>From Procurement to Supply Chain Tech CMO – Sarah Scudder from SourceDay</title><itunes:title>From Procurement to Supply Chain Tech CMO – Sarah Scudder from SourceDay</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Today on The Procuretech Podcast, we welcome Sarah Scudder, Chief Marketing Officer of SourceDay. They're a Texas-based supply chain software company. Sarah previously appeared on the show way back in Series 1.

SourceDay's mission is to ensure that manufacturing companies always get their parts on time. I can relate to this mission, having been a direct materials buyer in the automotive industry before the 2008-09 recession.

Sarah begins by talking about their career trajectory, which started with a plan to pursue fashion and eventually produce her own fashion shows. She goes on to describe how a volunteer opportunity in her senior year of college led her to procurement and supply chain. Sarah ended up working as an intern for a local company in California that did sourcing and procurement in marketing.

After some soul-searching, Sarah decided that her personality and strengths were better suited for a smaller business. She then took a job working in a sales and marketing, helping to restructure and pivot the business to become a software driven procurement company.

Part of this role included her taking a challenge to post on LinkedIn every day for 90 days, which resulted in people reaching out to her, rather than her reaching out to them. This led her to pivot her career to focus on her newly found passion for demand generation, pipeline creation and marketing.

This ultimately led to Sarah joining Source Day as the Chief Marketing Officer, where she has been for the past year and eight months. Sarah shares how networking has been essential to her career growth and success, both in sales and marketing. She credits her networking skills for undoubtedly helping her land her current job at Source Day. Her introduction to SourceDay's CEO and co-founder came through her network. Without it, she wouldn't have landed the job.

Sarah is also big on community building and hosts a meetup group twice a month, a podcast, and a series of live-streamed show formats. She leverages her network to get advice, feedback, and to secure speakers for these.

Sarah gives some solid gold advice on how leveraging your network, building a personal brand and being a content creator can lead to a wealth of opportunities which otherwise would not present themselves. I can only concur with this. I highly recommend anyone out there to get started, especially if you're a bit stuck about how to pivot into a different career path.

This episode will equip you with the "how" and the "what". All you then need to consider is the "why" and the "where" you want to go with it!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/manufacturingmaven/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://sourceday.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit SourceDay's website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://sourceday.com/what-the-duck-supply-chain-podcast/">What the Duck? Podcast</a> (Sarah is the host - supply chain stuff)</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Today on The Procuretech Podcast, we welcome Sarah Scudder, Chief Marketing Officer of SourceDay. They're a Texas-based supply chain software company. Sarah previously appeared on the show way back in Series 1.

SourceDay's mission is to ensure that manufacturing companies always get their parts on time. I can relate to this mission, having been a direct materials buyer in the automotive industry before the 2008-09 recession.

Sarah begins by talking about their career trajectory, which started with a plan to pursue fashion and eventually produce her own fashion shows. She goes on to describe how a volunteer opportunity in her senior year of college led her to procurement and supply chain. Sarah ended up working as an intern for a local company in California that did sourcing and procurement in marketing.

After some soul-searching, Sarah decided that her personality and strengths were better suited for a smaller business. She then took a job working in a sales and marketing, helping to restructure and pivot the business to become a software driven procurement company.

Part of this role included her taking a challenge to post on LinkedIn every day for 90 days, which resulted in people reaching out to her, rather than her reaching out to them. This led her to pivot her career to focus on her newly found passion for demand generation, pipeline creation and marketing.

This ultimately led to Sarah joining Source Day as the Chief Marketing Officer, where she has been for the past year and eight months. Sarah shares how networking has been essential to her career growth and success, both in sales and marketing. She credits her networking skills for undoubtedly helping her land her current job at Source Day. Her introduction to SourceDay's CEO and co-founder came through her network. Without it, she wouldn't have landed the job.

Sarah is also big on community building and hosts a meetup group twice a month, a podcast, and a series of live-streamed show formats. She leverages her network to get advice, feedback, and to secure speakers for these.

Sarah gives some solid gold advice on how leveraging your network, building a personal brand and being a content creator can lead to a wealth of opportunities which otherwise would not present themselves. I can only concur with this. I highly recommend anyone out there to get started, especially if you're a bit stuck about how to pivot into a different career path.

This episode will equip you with the "how" and the "what". All you then need to consider is the "why" and the "where" you want to go with it!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/manufacturingmaven/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://sourceday.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit SourceDay's website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://sourceday.com/what-the-duck-supply-chain-podcast/">What the Duck? Podcast</a> (Sarah is the host - supply chain stuff)</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bc608d7d-a793-4923-ac73-08f9137034a7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7a6a581b-cbb7-41e8-9938-7a8406145641/Procuretech-ep-3-Sarah-Scudder-Sourceday.mp3" length="33418351" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Key criteria when choosing a provider – Ward Karson from Raindrop</title><itunes:title>Key criteria when choosing a provider – Ward Karson from Raindrop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

They discuss the current trend for consolidation in the procurement tech space, what this means for the future, and how Raindrop plans to make some big waves.
<h2>Disrupting with Accessible Solutions – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
In light of the recent shock acquisition of Coupa, more mergers and acquisitions are likely on the way. Against this backdrop, how is Raindrop looking to disrupt and challenge the big players in the full-suite game?

0:02:49

History and background on Raindrop.
Raindrop has been around for four years, and Ward has over 30 years of experience as a procurement practitioner. Raindrop's aim is to create an enterprise Procure-to-Pay (P2P) solution to compete with legacy tech.

0:04:19

Acquisitions and their impact on procurement tech. .
In the past few weeks we've seen the acquisitions of Coupa, UBS, Credit Suisse, and the Silicon Valley Bank. This is a very interesting time, where organizations that are struggling may get acquired and consumed. As a result, expect the entire P2P space to be changing in the coming years.

0:06:10

Discussing the disparity between CRM and SRM uptake.
Even small startups have CRM systems, and this is testament to the changes happening in the industry. So why don't companies use supplier relationship management systems, despite the fact that it would make sense for them to do so?

0:07:35

Addressing  the growing SRM market and potential ERP acquisitions.

0:10:57

Predictions on the future of ERP.
Ward draws on his experience working for Oracle and predicts that more traditional ERP providers are going to go out and acquire solutions, as opposed to developing them.

0:14:59

The true value of user-friendly solutions.

Ease of use is incredibly important in any procurement tech solution. Not just from the perspective of accessibility. The real value is that it increases stakeholder adoption.

0:16:41

Exploring the pros and cons of legacy tech.

Legacy tech in the P2P space doesn't exactly have a reputation for user-friendliness or accessibility. This is where there's space to disrupt.

0:22:11

Risk appetite and modular solutions.
Modular solutions allow for fast strategic pivots and agile business practices. Monolithic legacy tech solutions can be so costly to implement that they present a serious risk to ROI.

0:23:48

The benefits of digitally native solutions.
As Millennials rise to senior positions in the industry, it's unsurprising to hear that immediacy is becoming ever more valuable. Digitally native solutions represent the speed and ease that the market now demands.

0:24:49

Ward's advice for IT procurement managers: What to look for in a future-proof, modern procurement tech solution.

And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[In this episode of the Procuretech Podcast, host James Meads is joined by Ward Karson, Chief Operating Officer of Raindrop – an enterprise spend management suite based in California.

They discuss the current trend for consolidation in the procurement tech space, what this means for the future, and how Raindrop plans to make some big waves.
<h2>Disrupting with Accessible Solutions – Ward Karson from Raindrop</h2>
In light of the recent shock acquisition of Coupa, more mergers and acquisitions are likely on the way. Against this backdrop, how is Raindrop looking to disrupt and challenge the big players in the full-suite game?

0:02:49

History and background on Raindrop.
Raindrop has been around for four years, and Ward has over 30 years of experience as a procurement practitioner. Raindrop's aim is to create an enterprise Procure-to-Pay (P2P) solution to compete with legacy tech.

0:04:19

Acquisitions and their impact on procurement tech. .
In the past few weeks we've seen the acquisitions of Coupa, UBS, Credit Suisse, and the Silicon Valley Bank. This is a very interesting time, where organizations that are struggling may get acquired and consumed. As a result, expect the entire P2P space to be changing in the coming years.

0:06:10

Discussing the disparity between CRM and SRM uptake.
Even small startups have CRM systems, and this is testament to the changes happening in the industry. So why don't companies use supplier relationship management systems, despite the fact that it would make sense for them to do so?

0:07:35

Addressing  the growing SRM market and potential ERP acquisitions.

0:10:57

Predictions on the future of ERP.
Ward draws on his experience working for Oracle and predicts that more traditional ERP providers are going to go out and acquire solutions, as opposed to developing them.

0:14:59

The true value of user-friendly solutions.

Ease of use is incredibly important in any procurement tech solution. Not just from the perspective of accessibility. The real value is that it increases stakeholder adoption.

0:16:41

Exploring the pros and cons of legacy tech.

Legacy tech in the P2P space doesn't exactly have a reputation for user-friendliness or accessibility. This is where there's space to disrupt.

0:22:11

Risk appetite and modular solutions.
Modular solutions allow for fast strategic pivots and agile business practices. Monolithic legacy tech solutions can be so costly to implement that they present a serious risk to ROI.

0:23:48

The benefits of digitally native solutions.
As Millennials rise to senior positions in the industry, it's unsurprising to hear that immediacy is becoming ever more valuable. Digitally native solutions represent the speed and ease that the market now demands.

0:24:49

Ward's advice for IT procurement managers: What to look for in a future-proof, modern procurement tech solution.

And that wraps up another episode of the Procuretech Podcast!

Thanks to Ward for sharing his insights with us today, and big thanks to you for listening. We'll be back at the same time next week, so see you there.

If you want to learn more about Ward, Raindrop, or Procurement Software, check out the useful links below.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wardkarson/">Ward on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://raindrop.com/">Raindrop</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8f766b76-e078-4f8d-8671-9797cc406330</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c20a7812-0bcd-4ded-a19c-5cd1872a3257/Procuretech-ep-2-Ward-Karson-Raindrop.mp3" length="29257567" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Where is procurement tech headed? Solo episode with James Meads</title><itunes:title>Where is procurement tech headed? Solo episode with James Meads</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Welcome back to series 4 of The Procuretech Podcast!

Join procurement content creator and consultant James Meads as he hosts weekly conversations with experts in the digital procurement space. With insights from thought leaders and news on the latest tech, we aim to excite and inspire you about the future of the industry.
<h2>Introduction to Series 4 – Solo Episode with James Meads</h2>
This episode is something a bit different. A solo episode from James that serves as an introduction to the new series, as well as a chance to catch up on recent trends in the digital procurement marketplace.

So what can you expect from the new series?

03.25

We're going to be concentrating predominantly on overcoming objections and ensuring successful outcomes. There are so many botched digital transformations out there. Tech is not a magic wand that solves problems on its own. So we're going to do more episodes on topics like change management, proposing a business case, influence and persuasion, and developing the right talent, so that implementation can be a success.

05.53

We'll also be touching on some of the big developments in the procurement tech ecosystem since our last series. Such as the acquisition of Coupa software that was announced back in December. What impact will this have on our industry at large?

07:25

Are ERP's days numbered? We'll look at how funding difficulties and the rise of  millennials to leadership positions is driving change. Can the big suites keep up with a market that demands good UX? It's going to be an interesting battle, so watch this space!

11:32:

Tech companies in emerging markets are well positioned to grow and disrupt. Look at Penny, setting a great example in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. These solutions offer something really unique, so that's something we'll also be watching very closely.

Check out this recent <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1uPjNA9Us">video interview with Muddasir</a> Ahmed from SCM Dojo for more on this topic.

14:15

Best of breed solutions seem poised to keep poaching business from the legacy suites. As does anyone coming into the market with new technology. We've got a couple of episodes coming up with Raindrop on that topic.

15:56

Solution providers look set to keep evolving into SaaS providers. Trends in the gig economy point to procurement teams becoming smaller and more specialised.

16:57

We could see Sourcing-as-a-service come into play from some of the E-sourcing platforms.

18:00

And then last but not least,  VC funding is going to continue to be tough for startups.  We've kind of got to the point now that all of the early adopters of procurement tech, have adopted it. So we've stuttered a little bit on the growth of the bell-curve. This is going to be a big challenge for the industry going forwards.

20:16

And that rounds off the first episode of Series 4!

Stay tuned for more interviews to come in the following weeks. This series is going be much more diverse in terms of guests.

We're branching out from our traditional structure, where we invite guests on to talk about their software. We're still going to do those, but they're going to be less common sponsored episodes that will slot in every two or three weeks.

Instead we're going to branch out into much more diverse content, aimed at a wider audience.

As always, please subscribe to the show and leave us a review on Apple podcasts if you like what you hear. That really helps us to reach more people.

We also have a monthly newsletter where we give a round-up of everything that's happening in the procurement tech space. Links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Welcome back to series 4 of The Procuretech Podcast!

Join procurement content creator and consultant James Meads as he hosts weekly conversations with experts in the digital procurement space. With insights from thought leaders and news on the latest tech, we aim to excite and inspire you about the future of the industry.
<h2>Introduction to Series 4 – Solo Episode with James Meads</h2>
This episode is something a bit different. A solo episode from James that serves as an introduction to the new series, as well as a chance to catch up on recent trends in the digital procurement marketplace.

So what can you expect from the new series?

03.25

We're going to be concentrating predominantly on overcoming objections and ensuring successful outcomes. There are so many botched digital transformations out there. Tech is not a magic wand that solves problems on its own. So we're going to do more episodes on topics like change management, proposing a business case, influence and persuasion, and developing the right talent, so that implementation can be a success.

05.53

We'll also be touching on some of the big developments in the procurement tech ecosystem since our last series. Such as the acquisition of Coupa software that was announced back in December. What impact will this have on our industry at large?

07:25

Are ERP's days numbered? We'll look at how funding difficulties and the rise of  millennials to leadership positions is driving change. Can the big suites keep up with a market that demands good UX? It's going to be an interesting battle, so watch this space!

11:32:

Tech companies in emerging markets are well positioned to grow and disrupt. Look at Penny, setting a great example in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. These solutions offer something really unique, so that's something we'll also be watching very closely.

Check out this recent <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1uPjNA9Us">video interview with Muddasir</a> Ahmed from SCM Dojo for more on this topic.

14:15

Best of breed solutions seem poised to keep poaching business from the legacy suites. As does anyone coming into the market with new technology. We've got a couple of episodes coming up with Raindrop on that topic.

15:56

Solution providers look set to keep evolving into SaaS providers. Trends in the gig economy point to procurement teams becoming smaller and more specialised.

16:57

We could see Sourcing-as-a-service come into play from some of the E-sourcing platforms.

18:00

And then last but not least,  VC funding is going to continue to be tough for startups.  We've kind of got to the point now that all of the early adopters of procurement tech, have adopted it. So we've stuttered a little bit on the growth of the bell-curve. This is going to be a big challenge for the industry going forwards.

20:16

And that rounds off the first episode of Series 4!

Stay tuned for more interviews to come in the following weeks. This series is going be much more diverse in terms of guests.

We're branching out from our traditional structure, where we invite guests on to talk about their software. We're still going to do those, but they're going to be less common sponsored episodes that will slot in every two or three weeks.

Instead we're going to branch out into much more diverse content, aimed at a wider audience.

As always, please subscribe to the show and leave us a review on Apple podcasts if you like what you hear. That really helps us to reach more people.

We also have a monthly newsletter where we give a round-up of everything that's happening in the procurement tech space. Links below.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7c58b53f-2430-4a96-abbf-fcc8377768fa</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2023 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/421f8d37-437d-4144-b881-06c1bd73e4dc/Procuretech-ep-1-James-Solo-Episode.mp3" length="22840639" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>4</podcast:season></item><item><title>Talent, Skills and Tech in Emerging Markets – Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School</title><itunes:title>Talent, Skills and Tech in Emerging Markets – Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is sadly the last episode in our mini series, where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Talent, Skills and Tech in Emerging Markets - Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">For this episode, we’re going all the way to Australia, where my guest today actually has his own procurement school. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">His school has a really noble mission: To make procurement education affordable to students. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So a very warm welcome to Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">02:00 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up by talking about Nolan’s mission to bring procurement education to as broad of a base as possible. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In particular, we highlight the need for such accessibility when it comes to developing countries.   </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">04:44 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How technology has impacted and enabled Nolan to reach more students.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We consider that 10 years ago, it was barely possible to have a stable Skype call, let alone host a group webinar online.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">05:31 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation of entry level positions, and the impact this is going to have in the future. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We also discuss the digital divide, and just how different life is for people who don’t live in developed countries.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Focusing on the MIddle East, for example, the challenges faced there are very different to our own, and we have to get our heads around that.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">07:36 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some of Nolan’s students don’t even have electricity in their houses. So there’s a huge gulf of things that we might take for granted that these people just don’t have.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That gap needs closing before we can even begin to talk about cutting edge tech. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">09:08 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The absolute importance of mobile phones in the developing world. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are so many users out there who will never own a PC, but many of them have a mobile phone. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As such, mobile represents a crucial frontier when it comes to unlocking the talent currently siloed away in developing countries. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">10:32</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about communications infrastructure challenges, using Papua New Guinea as an example.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some countries seem to have entirely skipped the step of installing efficient broadband, and insteadleapt right from copper cables to wireless internet. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:56 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The increasing prevalence of remote or hybrid work, and the critical role tech plays here. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:09</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Everything as a service, the Internet of Things, and the implications of moving aware from the PC as standard. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:11  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The critical role of technology in compliance, and how this helps reduce exploitative practices like slavery and child labour. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about Prewave, and their AI tool that scrapes news sources and social media accounts to back up compliance.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:23 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are three elements in combating scourges like corruption and modern slavery in the modern era. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The first thing is a mobile device. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">The second thing is a search functionality application. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">And the third is social. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you combine these three things together, you put a lot of power into the hands of ordinary people. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">21:27 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">To what extent does Nolan think that technology is going to be the driver in elevating our profession?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:56 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We can use echnology to employ people who otherwise would be living a very poor life in a remote village. It's a way of educating people out in the sticks.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It’s also a great opportunity to get companies to think about their policies. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">25:23 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That’s all we’ve got time for, this episode. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">And sadly this is also  the end of our current series!</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Big thanks to Nolan for coming on to the podcast today and sharing his insights. If you'd like to learn more about his work, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We’ll be sure to keep you posted about the next series of the Procuretech Podcast.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But until then, thanks for listening and we’ll catch you next time! </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-menachemson-37383b118/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Nolan on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">out </span><a href="https://www.nolanschoolofprocurement.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Nolan School of Procurement</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is sadly the last episode in our mini series, where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Talent, Skills and Tech in Emerging Markets - Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">For this episode, we’re going all the way to Australia, where my guest today actually has his own procurement school. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">His school has a really noble mission: To make procurement education affordable to students. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So a very warm welcome to Nolan Menachemson from Nolan School.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">02:00 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up by talking about Nolan’s mission to bring procurement education to as broad of a base as possible. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In particular, we highlight the need for such accessibility when it comes to developing countries.   </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">04:44 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How technology has impacted and enabled Nolan to reach more students.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We consider that 10 years ago, it was barely possible to have a stable Skype call, let alone host a group webinar online.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">05:31 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation of entry level positions, and the impact this is going to have in the future. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We also discuss the digital divide, and just how different life is for people who don’t live in developed countries.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Focusing on the MIddle East, for example, the challenges faced there are very different to our own, and we have to get our heads around that.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">07:36 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some of Nolan’s students don’t even have electricity in their houses. So there’s a huge gulf of things that we might take for granted that these people just don’t have.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That gap needs closing before we can even begin to talk about cutting edge tech. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">09:08 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The absolute importance of mobile phones in the developing world. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are so many users out there who will never own a PC, but many of them have a mobile phone. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As such, mobile represents a crucial frontier when it comes to unlocking the talent currently siloed away in developing countries. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">10:32</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about communications infrastructure challenges, using Papua New Guinea as an example.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some countries seem to have entirely skipped the step of installing efficient broadband, and insteadleapt right from copper cables to wireless internet. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:56 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The increasing prevalence of remote or hybrid work, and the critical role tech plays here. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:09</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Everything as a service, the Internet of Things, and the implications of moving aware from the PC as standard. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:11  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The critical role of technology in compliance, and how this helps reduce exploitative practices like slavery and child labour. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about Prewave, and their AI tool that scrapes news sources and social media accounts to back up compliance.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:23 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are three elements in combating scourges like corruption and modern slavery in the modern era. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The first thing is a mobile device. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">The second thing is a search functionality application. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">And the third is social. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you combine these three things together, you put a lot of power into the hands of ordinary people. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">21:27 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">To what extent does Nolan think that technology is going to be the driver in elevating our profession?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:56 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We can use echnology to employ people who otherwise would be living a very poor life in a remote village. It's a way of educating people out in the sticks.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It’s also a great opportunity to get companies to think about their policies. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">25:23 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That’s all we’ve got time for, this episode. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">And sadly this is also  the end of our current series!</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Big thanks to Nolan for coming on to the podcast today and sharing his insights. If you'd like to learn more about his work, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We’ll be sure to keep you posted about the next series of the Procuretech Podcast.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But until then, thanks for listening and we’ll catch you next time! </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-menachemson-37383b118/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Nolan on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">out </span><a href="https://www.nolanschoolofprocurement.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Nolan School of Procurement</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d13baf95-834f-48d5-8f71-7013ab975171</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/646bf17c-82e3-4fbd-a79f-0e45c0beff6e/Procuretech-20ep-2015-20Nolan-20Menachemson-20-20Nolan-20School.mp3" length="27095464" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Risk Management, Tech and Resilience – David Loseby from Leeds Uni Business School</title><itunes:title>Risk Management, Tech and Resilience – David Loseby from Leeds Uni Business School</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Risk Management, Tech and Resilience  - David Loseby from Leeds Uni Business School</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're tackling a big Elephant in the room that everyone's got their eye on right now: The world of third party risk management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest today is David Loseby. He’s a former CPO of Rolls Royce, a consultant, and is now moving into the academic field.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">David is one professor who definitely has the real life experience to back up what he teaches!</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">01:40</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up with a brief rundown of David’s background: An eclectic blend of the practical and academic. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">His drive is to bring more research impact into business. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">03:27 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As someone who’s currently structuring courses, how does David think the syllabus has changed in the last 10 years? Does the rise of tech impact the teaching process?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">09:39:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We discuss the challenges of risk management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With a staggering complexity of unique challenges to every geography, no-one can be expected to model risk accurately on their own. It’s simply not humanly possible. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is why we need collaborative single sources of truth. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">11:41</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The value of digital platforms in managing non-strategic spend, and how this relates to risk management. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:35</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The impact of black swan events, and how even with lots of data there are some risks that you just can’t predict. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">16:23</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are two parts to the tehc ecosystem around third party risk management: Material traceability and substainability, and pre-empting risk with intelligence. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:00 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The critical importance of the SME population.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:08</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Licenses and onboarding packages for SMEs interacting with large enterprises. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">21:31 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Does David think that some tech platforms may grow a consultancy arm to manage tail spend on behalf of mid-market businesses?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:19</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">David likens committing to procurement tech to a marriage. It’s an interesting metaphor, but one that makes quite a lot of sense. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">24:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That’s all for today’s episode. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Many thanks to David for sharing his insights, and if you want to learn more or connect with us here at the Procuretech Podcast you’ll find all the links you need below.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time! </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-loseby-cpochangeexecdir/"><span style="font-weight: 400">David on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Risk Management, Tech and Resilience  - David Loseby from Leeds Uni Business School</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're tackling a big Elephant in the room that everyone's got their eye on right now: The world of third party risk management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest today is David Loseby. He’s a former CPO of Rolls Royce, a consultant, and is now moving into the academic field.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">David is one professor who definitely has the real life experience to back up what he teaches!</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">01:40</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up with a brief rundown of David’s background: An eclectic blend of the practical and academic. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">His drive is to bring more research impact into business. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">03:27 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As someone who’s currently structuring courses, how does David think the syllabus has changed in the last 10 years? Does the rise of tech impact the teaching process?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">09:39:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We discuss the challenges of risk management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With a staggering complexity of unique challenges to every geography, no-one can be expected to model risk accurately on their own. It’s simply not humanly possible. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is why we need collaborative single sources of truth. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">11:41</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The value of digital platforms in managing non-strategic spend, and how this relates to risk management. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:35</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The impact of black swan events, and how even with lots of data there are some risks that you just can’t predict. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">16:23</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are two parts to the tehc ecosystem around third party risk management: Material traceability and substainability, and pre-empting risk with intelligence. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:00 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The critical importance of the SME population.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:08</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Licenses and onboarding packages for SMEs interacting with large enterprises. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">21:31 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Does David think that some tech platforms may grow a consultancy arm to manage tail spend on behalf of mid-market businesses?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:19</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">David likens committing to procurement tech to a marriage. It’s an interesting metaphor, but one that makes quite a lot of sense. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">24:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That’s all for today’s episode. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Many thanks to David for sharing his insights, and if you want to learn more or connect with us here at the Procuretech Podcast you’ll find all the links you need below.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time! </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-loseby-cpochangeexecdir/"><span style="font-weight: 400">David on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a326a8b1-17b1-4f24-bf32-5f4fc6e38223</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/29a64495-44cf-4a91-a941-f3f3b4925570/Procuretech-20ep-2014-20David-20Loseby.mp3" length="25507219" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procuretech Driving Procurement Excellence – Graham Crawshaw from CASME</title><itunes:title>Procuretech Driving Procurement Excellence – Graham Crawshaw from CASME</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Procuretech Driving Procurement Excellence - Graham Crawshaw from CASME</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today’s guest is Graham Crawshaw, Director of Procurement Content for CASME - a sponsor-free membership organisation for procurement professionals. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Having already been a guest on </span><a href="https://casme.com/podcast/episode-8-demystifying-procurement-tech-james-meads"><span style="font-weight: 400">an episode of Graham's own podcast</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400">, it was high time to invite him onto the Procuretech Podcast.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">02:08</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up with a look back over Graham’s career. From indirect procurement at EMI, to running procurement roundtables, and eventually finding his role at CASME.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">05:07</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How does Graham think the impact of procurement technology has changed, comparing now to five or even ten years ago?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">From writing a thesis on computer aided procurement in the early nineties and throughout his career, Graham’s had a unique vantage point. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">He shares the story from his point of view. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">06:51</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How AI and machine learning are allowing us to push more frontiers in data analysis.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We also touch on the frustratingly slow uptake for procurement tech, and how surprisingly few businesses embrace the full potential of good analytics. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Leaner teams on tighter budgets mean that there’s often an education gap in the mid-market. We talk about how to encourage smaller businesses to welcome digital transformation.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:00</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Discussing the challenges that procurement teams face in smaller organisations, and how they can get their voice heard. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">We also discuss the importance of UI and UX in appealing to Gen Z, and bringing fresh talent into our profession. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">15:00</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The importance of interpreting data in spend analytics, and how pie charts alone do not represent actionable understanding. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We explain the value of conversation and facilitation when it comes to educating people about technology, and how CASME’s sponsor-free approach makes it a unique source of knowledge. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">17:27</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What does Graham think is driving the agenda when it comes to changes in procurement?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:14</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We touch on the fantastic work of Prof. Dr. Florian Kleemann. Florian spoke with us on a </span><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/captivate-podcast/the-procuretech-pub-florian-kleemann/"><span style="font-weight: 400">previous Procuretech Podcast episode</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400">, and  had some really interesting things to say on change management.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">20:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Graham shares his experiences from hosting a recent panel discussion on eProcurement.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:05 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What did Graham notice about the participants in that discussion group? Was there any correlations between industries, their maturity, their complexity and their willingness to adopt procurement tech? Or was it fairly random? </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">24:38</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up today’s podcast by thanking Graham for his time and asking where you can learn more about CASME.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">You’ll find all the relevant links below.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time!</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcrawshaw/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Graham on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">out </span><a href="https://casme.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">CASME</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask industry experts and influencers about everything happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Procuretech Driving Procurement Excellence - Graham Crawshaw from CASME</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today’s guest is Graham Crawshaw, Director of Procurement Content for CASME - a sponsor-free membership organisation for procurement professionals. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Having already been a guest on </span><a href="https://casme.com/podcast/episode-8-demystifying-procurement-tech-james-meads"><span style="font-weight: 400">an episode of Graham's own podcast</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400">, it was high time to invite him onto the Procuretech Podcast.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">02:08</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up with a look back over Graham’s career. From indirect procurement at EMI, to running procurement roundtables, and eventually finding his role at CASME.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">05:07</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How does Graham think the impact of procurement technology has changed, comparing now to five or even ten years ago?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">From writing a thesis on computer aided procurement in the early nineties and throughout his career, Graham’s had a unique vantage point. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">He shares the story from his point of view. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">06:51</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How AI and machine learning are allowing us to push more frontiers in data analysis.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We also touch on the frustratingly slow uptake for procurement tech, and how surprisingly few businesses embrace the full potential of good analytics. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Leaner teams on tighter budgets mean that there’s often an education gap in the mid-market. We talk about how to encourage smaller businesses to welcome digital transformation.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:00</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Discussing the challenges that procurement teams face in smaller organisations, and how they can get their voice heard. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">We also discuss the importance of UI and UX in appealing to Gen Z, and bringing fresh talent into our profession. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">15:00</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The importance of interpreting data in spend analytics, and how pie charts alone do not represent actionable understanding. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We explain the value of conversation and facilitation when it comes to educating people about technology, and how CASME’s sponsor-free approach makes it a unique source of knowledge. </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">17:27</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What does Graham think is driving the agenda when it comes to changes in procurement?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">19:14</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We touch on the fantastic work of Prof. Dr. Florian Kleemann. Florian spoke with us on a </span><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/captivate-podcast/the-procuretech-pub-florian-kleemann/"><span style="font-weight: 400">previous Procuretech Podcast episode</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400">, and  had some really interesting things to say on change management.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">20:39</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Graham shares his experiences from hosting a recent panel discussion on eProcurement.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">23:05 </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What did Graham notice about the participants in that discussion group? Was there any correlations between industries, their maturity, their complexity and their willingness to adopt procurement tech? Or was it fairly random? </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">24:38</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up today’s podcast by thanking Graham for his time and asking where you can learn more about CASME.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">You’ll find all the relevant links below.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time!</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcrawshaw/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Graham on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">out </span><a href="https://casme.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">CASME</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">160694f1-7a68-4d3b-9d0d-444a67d5ba73</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/09e25334-41b9-47e6-8988-e9f28ea4a308/Procuretech-20ep-2013-20Graham-20Crawshaw-20-20CASME.mp3" length="26006262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Evolution from All-In-One Suites to Hybrid – Melissa Drew from IBM</title><itunes:title>Evolution from All-In-One Suites to Hybrid – Melissa Drew from IBM</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>
<h2>Evolution from All-In-One Suites to Hybrid – Melissa Drew from IBM</h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Back in episode 20, Melissa Drew from IBM gave us a masterclass in AI and machine learning. So we were really pleased when she agreed to come back on and take part in another episode.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For anyone that didn't listen to the original episode, Melissa has 28 years of industry and consulting procurement experience. She’s currently a keynote speaker, board member for a nonprofit, and soon to be a published author.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">2:11  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up our discussion with a quick catch-up on Melissa’s background: A history with procurement that goes all the way back to 1996.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">3:06  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What are Melissa’s memories of some key milestones in tech over the years? How has tech impacted her career?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From cloud technology to AI, we take a tour of all the biggest tech developments from Melissa’s perspective. </span>
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">5:03  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Are best of breeds coming to replace full-suite solutions? How much did COVID impact the procurement tech landscape? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Melissa explains some of the most important recent innovations in procurement tech.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">8:41  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Will agile startups ever displace the Big Five, or should we expect to see more hybrid approaches in the future? </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:09  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Melissa shares a very relevant story about working with chemical experts from her time in procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From there, we talk about talent, strategic sourcing, direct category management, and the importance of leadership.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">“If you have a leader that's doing nothing or saying nothing, they're really saying a lot."</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">15:00  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about the underlying root cause of personnel problems: Talent attrition. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The current management trend of rotating talent across categories means that in-depth experience is becoming rarer. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Can AI compensate for dwindling human expertise?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:31  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about Melissa’s upcoming book: An unfiltered, honest look at how to develop a solid foundation for transformation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This includes some advice that might upset the big boy consultancies…</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">20:47  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up this episode by thanking Melissa for her insights, and asking how to best reach out to her. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">If you want to get in touch, you’ll find all the links you need below. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time.</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/37782359/"><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></h3>
&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-drew/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site" rev="en_rl_none">Visit ProcurementSoftware.site</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>
<h2>Evolution from All-In-One Suites to Hybrid – Melissa Drew from IBM</h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Back in episode 20, Melissa Drew from IBM gave us a masterclass in AI and machine learning. So we were really pleased when she agreed to come back on and take part in another episode.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For anyone that didn't listen to the original episode, Melissa has 28 years of industry and consulting procurement experience. She’s currently a keynote speaker, board member for a nonprofit, and soon to be a published author.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">2:11  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up our discussion with a quick catch-up on Melissa’s background: A history with procurement that goes all the way back to 1996.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">3:06  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What are Melissa’s memories of some key milestones in tech over the years? How has tech impacted her career?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From cloud technology to AI, we take a tour of all the biggest tech developments from Melissa’s perspective. </span>
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">5:03  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Are best of breeds coming to replace full-suite solutions? How much did COVID impact the procurement tech landscape? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Melissa explains some of the most important recent innovations in procurement tech.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">8:41  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Will agile startups ever displace the Big Five, or should we expect to see more hybrid approaches in the future? </span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">12:09  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Melissa shares a very relevant story about working with chemical experts from her time in procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From there, we talk about talent, strategic sourcing, direct category management, and the importance of leadership.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">“If you have a leader that's doing nothing or saying nothing, they're really saying a lot."</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">15:00  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about the underlying root cause of personnel problems: Talent attrition. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The current management trend of rotating talent across categories means that in-depth experience is becoming rarer. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Can AI compensate for dwindling human expertise?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:31  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about Melissa’s upcoming book: An unfiltered, honest look at how to develop a solid foundation for transformation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This includes some advice that might upset the big boy consultancies…</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">20:47  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up this episode by thanking Melissa for her insights, and asking how to best reach out to her. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">If you want to get in touch, you’ll find all the links you need below. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we’ll catch you next time.</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/37782359/"><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></h3>
&nbsp;
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-drew/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site" rev="en_rl_none">Visit ProcurementSoftware.site</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1f4413a9-6ff8-403a-96b2-72ec2935dc91</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/aad9f181-44f2-4497-b977-8bfee22ba8a8/Procuretech-20ep-2012-20Melissa-20Drew-20-20IBM.mp3" length="22222896" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Will Negotiation Bots Replace Humans? – Mark Raffan from Negotiations Ninja</title><itunes:title>Will Negotiation Bots Replace Humans? – Mark Raffan from Negotiations Ninja</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!

We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.

This episode we're talking about negotiation. And there's no one more influential in the negotiation space than the host of the Negotiations Ninja Podcast himself, Mr. Mark Raffan.

&nbsp;
<h2>Will Negotiation Bots Replace Humans? - Mark Raffan from Negotiations Ninja</h2>
1:07

We open up by asking Mark about his background: From sales and online advertising to category manager, before finally transitioning to content creation and his own negotiation training business.

3:12

We discuss Mark's lengthy career in podcasting, now he's over 300 episodes deep. He reflects on some of his favourite episodes. He gives special mention to an interview with Brain Burns, in which it's safe to say they were not exactly aligned...

4:40

Going back to Mark's time working in Category Management, to what extent did he come across procurement technology back then?

Mark mentions how common Coupa was back then, alongside niche players like Scout, which is now part of Workday. It's very interesting to see how tech has progressed and it's especially fascinating to Mark to see how the use of tech with negotiation has progressed.

We move to talking about the future impact of tech, and Mark highlights process automation and error elimination as huge benefits.

8:17

We talk about how the mid-market is still slow to adopt digitisation.

10:06

Looking at big platforms like <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/sap-ariba-coupa-marketplaces/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="4">Coupa and Ariba</a>, we're now seeing this sort of Salesforce model, where platforms put their own app stores in place.

This is almost an admission that these big players can't be everything to everyone.

Especially when looking to the mid-market, having a modular structure that allows users to cherry pick features is hugely important.

11:50

We discuss the value of experience. When an experienced professional with over 30 years of experience leaves an organisation, how much can technology hope to fill that gap?

12:47

To what extent can technology replace humans when it comes to negotiation? Does Mark think we'll ever see a robot able to <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/ai-procurement-negotiations/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="9">replace humans when negotiating</a> for something really complex and high end?

17:50

We take Grainger as an example. The whole reason Grainger exists is because a technical buyer or MRO category manager didn't have the time to spend all day doing three bids and a buyer for something that cost $5,000.

AI can solve all sorts of problems- so as long as you've got a competent person evaluating the results to make sure that it's not doing something stupid from time to time.

18:43

Mark breaks down the present and future of automating negotiations. He doesn't think that truly complex negotiations can be carried out by bots yet. But he's keen to emphasise the word <em>yet</em> in that sentence.

He would be very cautious about saying we'll never get there. Because technology is achieving things today that we'd have thought were totally impossible ten years ago.

21:45

Nobody knows the answer for sure.

It's not unrealistic to expect that we'll be able to teach a robot to do very complex negotiations. But will we be able to teach them the emotional intelligence required to deal with cultural differences in negotiation between nationalities or between different cultures? That's going to be the most complex part for AI to replicate.

23:49

Mark runs a negotiation training business. How does advancing tech impact how he builds his long term business strategy?

26:02

Mark thinks it's very, very interesting to think about things like using AI to train people in negotiation. But he's keen to highlight the fact that we're both very biassed here.

Mark and I think about technology every day. That's our business. But for most procurement professionals it's not on their mind.

They've got operational concerns to focus on. They're not really thinking about how technology is going to take them to the next level.

28:35

We're getting there with adopting tech. And certainly some organisations are way more advanced than others. But we're not there yet. Especially not in the mid market.

29:29

We wrap up this episode by asking Mark how you can get in touch with him. You'll find all the relevant links below.

Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time!
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markraffan/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Mark on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out<a href="https://www.negotiations.ninja/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Negotiations Ninja</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!

We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.

This episode we're talking about negotiation. And there's no one more influential in the negotiation space than the host of the Negotiations Ninja Podcast himself, Mr. Mark Raffan.

&nbsp;
<h2>Will Negotiation Bots Replace Humans? - Mark Raffan from Negotiations Ninja</h2>
1:07

We open up by asking Mark about his background: From sales and online advertising to category manager, before finally transitioning to content creation and his own negotiation training business.

3:12

We discuss Mark's lengthy career in podcasting, now he's over 300 episodes deep. He reflects on some of his favourite episodes. He gives special mention to an interview with Brain Burns, in which it's safe to say they were not exactly aligned...

4:40

Going back to Mark's time working in Category Management, to what extent did he come across procurement technology back then?

Mark mentions how common Coupa was back then, alongside niche players like Scout, which is now part of Workday. It's very interesting to see how tech has progressed and it's especially fascinating to Mark to see how the use of tech with negotiation has progressed.

We move to talking about the future impact of tech, and Mark highlights process automation and error elimination as huge benefits.

8:17

We talk about how the mid-market is still slow to adopt digitisation.

10:06

Looking at big platforms like <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/sap-ariba-coupa-marketplaces/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="4">Coupa and Ariba</a>, we're now seeing this sort of Salesforce model, where platforms put their own app stores in place.

This is almost an admission that these big players can't be everything to everyone.

Especially when looking to the mid-market, having a modular structure that allows users to cherry pick features is hugely important.

11:50

We discuss the value of experience. When an experienced professional with over 30 years of experience leaves an organisation, how much can technology hope to fill that gap?

12:47

To what extent can technology replace humans when it comes to negotiation? Does Mark think we'll ever see a robot able to <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/ai-procurement-negotiations/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="9">replace humans when negotiating</a> for something really complex and high end?

17:50

We take Grainger as an example. The whole reason Grainger exists is because a technical buyer or MRO category manager didn't have the time to spend all day doing three bids and a buyer for something that cost $5,000.

AI can solve all sorts of problems- so as long as you've got a competent person evaluating the results to make sure that it's not doing something stupid from time to time.

18:43

Mark breaks down the present and future of automating negotiations. He doesn't think that truly complex negotiations can be carried out by bots yet. But he's keen to emphasise the word <em>yet</em> in that sentence.

He would be very cautious about saying we'll never get there. Because technology is achieving things today that we'd have thought were totally impossible ten years ago.

21:45

Nobody knows the answer for sure.

It's not unrealistic to expect that we'll be able to teach a robot to do very complex negotiations. But will we be able to teach them the emotional intelligence required to deal with cultural differences in negotiation between nationalities or between different cultures? That's going to be the most complex part for AI to replicate.

23:49

Mark runs a negotiation training business. How does advancing tech impact how he builds his long term business strategy?

26:02

Mark thinks it's very, very interesting to think about things like using AI to train people in negotiation. But he's keen to highlight the fact that we're both very biassed here.

Mark and I think about technology every day. That's our business. But for most procurement professionals it's not on their mind.

They've got operational concerns to focus on. They're not really thinking about how technology is going to take them to the next level.

28:35

We're getting there with adopting tech. And certainly some organisations are way more advanced than others. But we're not there yet. Especially not in the mid market.

29:29

We wrap up this episode by asking Mark how you can get in touch with him. You'll find all the relevant links below.

Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time!
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markraffan/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Mark on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out<a href="https://www.negotiations.ninja/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Negotiations Ninja</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">84fe8556-d207-46c4-a91a-d55d830c7abf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d3db1bdc-7939-4e9b-a113-1c4a4a4ec1e8/Procuretech-20ep-2011-20Mark-20Raffan-20-20Negotiations-20Ninja.mp3" length="29999027" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>The View on Tech from Both Sides – Kelly Barner from Buyers Meeting Point</title><itunes:title>The View on Tech from Both Sides – Kelly Barner from Buyers Meeting Point</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our guest today is a real stalwart in this space, and has had her own website and blog since 2009.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's seen many changes in her career, both as a Procurement Consultant with a procurement tech company back in the day, and now as an independent blogger, podcaster, and CIO.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly Barner, founder of Buyers Meeting Point and partner at Art of Procurement, a very warm welcome to the show!</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">The View on Tech from Both Sides - Kelly Barner from Buyers Meeting Point</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">2:02</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up our conversation with a brief rundown of Kelly's professional background.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How did she make the journey from software consultant to content creator, and beyond?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">6:34</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Current economic headwinds might have Category Managers looking over their shoulders and uncertain about the future.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">At the same time, growing procurement tech companies are looking to recruit people with procurement expertise. It seems like a natural transition.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How did Kelly find that transition? And would she recommend taking the leap to anyone considering a career change?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">9:35</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Why former practitioners make for great providers, and the value of having a broad base of experience.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">10:53</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What area of procurement does Kelly think will have the biggest potential impact?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What trends has Kelly seen in her years of experience, and where is the impact highest?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">11:32</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly explains the importance of data and analytics. She also touches on how we need to stop seeing compliance as a dirty word. We should be creating a situation that incentivises compliance naturally.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">13:38</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We discuss the value of content creators when it comes to internal communication. Does Kelly think that internal marketing will become a more in-demand skill going forwards?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:55</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly feels that companies won't be quick to purposefully pursue content creators. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Although internal marketing, content creation, and communication are hugely valuable, we're much likely to see that value emerge organically.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:52</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">To what extent does Kelly think procurement tech will be at the forefront of change, when compared to other factors like sustainability and geopolitical disruption to supply chains?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">22:25</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As we spend less time in tech, it's going to force us to want our tech to do more. And that might leave procurement professionals feeling like their role is in jeopardy. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need to reassess our role with this in mind and become more value oriented.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400"> 23:53</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With the direction that Kelly's going with Art of Procurement, to what extent do the increasing number of software solutions play a role in her overall strategy and business model?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">26:14:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we want to become closer to the business, not only do we need to do a better job leveraging the full capabilities of digital. There needs to be more integration between procurement's digital footprint, and that of the enterprise as a whole.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Stay in touch</b></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-barner-6884443/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://buyersmeetingpoint.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Buyers Meeting Point</span></a></li>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Enjoy</span><a href="https://artofprocurement.com/author/kbarner/"><span style="font-weight: 400"> Kelly’s content for Art of Procurement</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our guest today is a real stalwart in this space, and has had her own website and blog since 2009.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's seen many changes in her career, both as a Procurement Consultant with a procurement tech company back in the day, and now as an independent blogger, podcaster, and CIO.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly Barner, founder of Buyers Meeting Point and partner at Art of Procurement, a very warm welcome to the show!</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">The View on Tech from Both Sides - Kelly Barner from Buyers Meeting Point</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">2:02</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We open up our conversation with a brief rundown of Kelly's professional background.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How did she make the journey from software consultant to content creator, and beyond?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">6:34</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Current economic headwinds might have Category Managers looking over their shoulders and uncertain about the future.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">At the same time, growing procurement tech companies are looking to recruit people with procurement expertise. It seems like a natural transition.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How did Kelly find that transition? And would she recommend taking the leap to anyone considering a career change?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">9:35</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Why former practitioners make for great providers, and the value of having a broad base of experience.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">10:53</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What area of procurement does Kelly think will have the biggest potential impact?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What trends has Kelly seen in her years of experience, and where is the impact highest?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">11:32</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly explains the importance of data and analytics. She also touches on how we need to stop seeing compliance as a dirty word. We should be creating a situation that incentivises compliance naturally.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">13:38</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We discuss the value of content creators when it comes to internal communication. Does Kelly think that internal marketing will become a more in-demand skill going forwards?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">14:55</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly feels that companies won't be quick to purposefully pursue content creators. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Although internal marketing, content creation, and communication are hugely valuable, we're much likely to see that value emerge organically.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">18:52</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">To what extent does Kelly think procurement tech will be at the forefront of change, when compared to other factors like sustainability and geopolitical disruption to supply chains?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">22:25</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As we spend less time in tech, it's going to force us to want our tech to do more. And that might leave procurement professionals feeling like their role is in jeopardy. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need to reassess our role with this in mind and become more value oriented.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400"> 23:53</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With the direction that Kelly's going with Art of Procurement, to what extent do the increasing number of software solutions play a role in her overall strategy and business model?</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">26:14:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we want to become closer to the business, not only do we need to do a better job leveraging the full capabilities of digital. There needs to be more integration between procurement's digital footprint, and that of the enterprise as a whole.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Stay in touch</b></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-barner-6884443/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Kelly on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://buyersmeetingpoint.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Buyers Meeting Point</span></a></li>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Enjoy</span><a href="https://artofprocurement.com/author/kbarner/"><span style="font-weight: 400"> Kelly’s content for Art of Procurement</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f73252ee-af1f-4a51-9739-ea8600f8732a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/16d22858-45ad-4df9-a744-7d96607ab578/Procuretech-20ep-2010-20Kelly-20Barner-20-20Buyers-20Meeting-20.mp3" length="30490547" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>From CPO to Advising Startups – Joanna Martinez from Supply Chain Advisors</title><itunes:title>From CPO to Advising Startups – Joanna Martinez from Supply Chain Advisors</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is a former CEO, CPO and published author. She's also an advisory board member to two very rapidly growing startups.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">From CPO to Advising Startups - Joanna Martinez from Supply Chain Advisors</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Her mission is to help individuals and businesses understand technology, improve processes and align with stakeholders.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's the Holy Grail, isn't it?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Let's welcome Joanna Martinez to the podcast, and kick off our chat with a quick recap on her background.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna Martinez – A brief background</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna is an engineer by profession. She spent the first third of her career in supply chain roles for Johnson and Johnson. It's a very very diversified company that gives a lot of autonomy to its different units.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So this gave her the chance with everything, from a very rigid, rules-based, process-oriented unit to one that was very much like a startup.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This was a great opportunity for learning. And makes great advice for anyone starting their career – pick a company that's going to offer you a broad range of experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna did a stint in procurement, and loved it. She decided that she wanted to focus on helping companies that didn't have the kinds of resources that Johnson and Johnson had to create a purchasing organisation: Working for firms where she would either create a procurement organisation, or fix a broken one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Twice in the subsequent years, she walked into roles that were vacant because the predecessor went out in handcuffs!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That becomes a very interesting stakeholder engagement learning experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And it was a fascinating look into how hard it can be to keep track of data when it comes to audits.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The importance of procurement technology</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna's last role as a CPO involved a global company with a corporate stand that was very modest, but they had billions of dollars of client spend that they were processing but not really managing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology was really important there. It allowed that company to differentiate itself against the competition. It wasn't the largest supplier in that space. But they could go forward with what they had: Subject matter experts, the right kind of supplier relationships, a platform that clients could use.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Also Joanna had a really good CEO, who was willing to rethink the kinds of agreements he had in place. That was a huge enabler.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In fact, people would say, “What's your most important supplier?” and Joanna would name a technology provider. Having a platform that was easy for clients to understand was hugely helpful. It allowed them to feel comfortable that Joanna was doing a good job on their behalf.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What drives positive disruption?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna wrote a book called </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400">A Guide to Positive Disruption</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400">. It's about change management and disruption and making sure that change gets adopted within the workplace.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But what's the key driver there? Is it talent, or technology? Obviously it's a mixture of both, but we ask Joanna where she sits on the see-saw there, in terms of which one makes the most impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She says that lots of things can cause disruption – in a way, it's existed since the dawn of time.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But technology is certainly a huge driver now. Today, technology is changing how companies do business, even compared to a few years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might seem like a good thing to have 20 years of experience on your résumé, but these days that might not be the case! The world has changed so much in the last couple of years.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The pandemic became a great enabler for technology. Everyone seems to be doing things differently to what they did in 2018 and that was only four years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Yes, there's still a value to experience and in-depth subject knowledge. But it's much more important at the moment to be asking questions, to be assessing your practices and asking if you're keeping up.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Pandemic Disruption</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The pandemic had a big impact on Joanna's own story, too. Just before the lockdowns, she was having a banner year. She had great sets of assignments coming in, and was gearing up for a series of global talks and workshops.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Obviously that did not come to pass.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she used the time to reinvent herself, to write a book, and to educate herself on new technologies. She already understood things like blockchain, AI, robotic process automation. But there were other subjects like the metaverse, web 3.0, NFTs that she didn't understand as well.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna wasted no time in educating herself, and even set up a Bitcoin mining operation in a spare bedroom, to better understand it first-hand.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In a way, Joanna ended up disrupting herself by doing this. She could add a whole other area of expertise to her talks. And covering tech from the perspective of someone who's just had to learn this stuff was really helpful to people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Many of the older generations - Gen X, or baby boomers – they're not digital natives. And having the technology explained that way proved very useful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Inevitably, someone would approach Joanna after a class and say: “Hey, thanks a lot for explaining this. Because I think I'm the only one in my office who doesn't understand it. Everyone throws around these terms. And I don't want to raise my hand and say, ``I don't understand that.”</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So she actually wound up with a whole new workstream, educating people on tech in a jargon-free, understandable way.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What will have the biggest impact – changing roles, or changing tech?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna thinks that in a way, it's both. It's not just the technology, it's what the technology lets you do.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Oddly, it's often the most mundane benefits of technology that have the most impact. For example, things that automate tedious elements like the RFP process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFP automation removes all the back-and-forth, all the repetitive emails and meetings and things like that. Sourcing people can now achieve in days what might have taken months in the past.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And wasting time doing those labour-intensive email exchanges isn't a good way to spend time, money, or effort. That's not doing anything for the sourcing profession.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If that person automates the repetitive stuff, they can use the time they've created to do something of more value. Maybe they'll actually put their key suppliers together with their marketing folks, and help the suppliers better understand where the company is headed. That way, the suppliers can devote some energy and some manpower and some research power to making the enhancements that are going to be important for the company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's a win/win all around.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement can be notoriously bad at internal communication and marketing with stakeholders. That's an area we really have to improve upon. But in fairness, the reason why is often that Procurement is stuck in the weeds doing administrative jobs. So technology can have a huge benefit there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology won't revolutionise things on its own, but if we apply it correctly, it will give us more free time, and it will give us answers faster. But whether or not we use that time and those answers to communicate better and elevate our profession is, ultimately, in the hands of people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People often moan about procurement not having a seat at the table. But a lot of important corporate functions don't have a seat at the table either. No-one's going to hand that out.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You need to be showing the business that you are focused on their goals and what they're trying to achieve. Sometimes, that's figuring out a way to lower costs, because a competitor just figured out a way to do it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We've all been clobbered by supply chain issues lately. There's a lot of talk about onshoring, or nearshoring. Everyone seems to understand that. But people aren't necessarily taking action on it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a whole different way of thinking about procurement,]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is a former CEO, CPO and published author. She's also an advisory board member to two very rapidly growing startups.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">From CPO to Advising Startups - Joanna Martinez from Supply Chain Advisors</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Her mission is to help individuals and businesses understand technology, improve processes and align with stakeholders.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's the Holy Grail, isn't it?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Let's welcome Joanna Martinez to the podcast, and kick off our chat with a quick recap on her background.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna Martinez – A brief background</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna is an engineer by profession. She spent the first third of her career in supply chain roles for Johnson and Johnson. It's a very very diversified company that gives a lot of autonomy to its different units.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So this gave her the chance with everything, from a very rigid, rules-based, process-oriented unit to one that was very much like a startup.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This was a great opportunity for learning. And makes great advice for anyone starting their career – pick a company that's going to offer you a broad range of experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna did a stint in procurement, and loved it. She decided that she wanted to focus on helping companies that didn't have the kinds of resources that Johnson and Johnson had to create a purchasing organisation: Working for firms where she would either create a procurement organisation, or fix a broken one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Twice in the subsequent years, she walked into roles that were vacant because the predecessor went out in handcuffs!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That becomes a very interesting stakeholder engagement learning experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And it was a fascinating look into how hard it can be to keep track of data when it comes to audits.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The importance of procurement technology</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna's last role as a CPO involved a global company with a corporate stand that was very modest, but they had billions of dollars of client spend that they were processing but not really managing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology was really important there. It allowed that company to differentiate itself against the competition. It wasn't the largest supplier in that space. But they could go forward with what they had: Subject matter experts, the right kind of supplier relationships, a platform that clients could use.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Also Joanna had a really good CEO, who was willing to rethink the kinds of agreements he had in place. That was a huge enabler.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In fact, people would say, “What's your most important supplier?” and Joanna would name a technology provider. Having a platform that was easy for clients to understand was hugely helpful. It allowed them to feel comfortable that Joanna was doing a good job on their behalf.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What drives positive disruption?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna wrote a book called </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400">A Guide to Positive Disruption</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400">. It's about change management and disruption and making sure that change gets adopted within the workplace.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But what's the key driver there? Is it talent, or technology? Obviously it's a mixture of both, but we ask Joanna where she sits on the see-saw there, in terms of which one makes the most impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She says that lots of things can cause disruption – in a way, it's existed since the dawn of time.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But technology is certainly a huge driver now. Today, technology is changing how companies do business, even compared to a few years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might seem like a good thing to have 20 years of experience on your résumé, but these days that might not be the case! The world has changed so much in the last couple of years.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The pandemic became a great enabler for technology. Everyone seems to be doing things differently to what they did in 2018 and that was only four years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Yes, there's still a value to experience and in-depth subject knowledge. But it's much more important at the moment to be asking questions, to be assessing your practices and asking if you're keeping up.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Pandemic Disruption</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The pandemic had a big impact on Joanna's own story, too. Just before the lockdowns, she was having a banner year. She had great sets of assignments coming in, and was gearing up for a series of global talks and workshops.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Obviously that did not come to pass.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she used the time to reinvent herself, to write a book, and to educate herself on new technologies. She already understood things like blockchain, AI, robotic process automation. But there were other subjects like the metaverse, web 3.0, NFTs that she didn't understand as well.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna wasted no time in educating herself, and even set up a Bitcoin mining operation in a spare bedroom, to better understand it first-hand.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In a way, Joanna ended up disrupting herself by doing this. She could add a whole other area of expertise to her talks. And covering tech from the perspective of someone who's just had to learn this stuff was really helpful to people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Many of the older generations - Gen X, or baby boomers – they're not digital natives. And having the technology explained that way proved very useful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Inevitably, someone would approach Joanna after a class and say: “Hey, thanks a lot for explaining this. Because I think I'm the only one in my office who doesn't understand it. Everyone throws around these terms. And I don't want to raise my hand and say, ``I don't understand that.”</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So she actually wound up with a whole new workstream, educating people on tech in a jargon-free, understandable way.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What will have the biggest impact – changing roles, or changing tech?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna thinks that in a way, it's both. It's not just the technology, it's what the technology lets you do.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Oddly, it's often the most mundane benefits of technology that have the most impact. For example, things that automate tedious elements like the RFP process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFP automation removes all the back-and-forth, all the repetitive emails and meetings and things like that. Sourcing people can now achieve in days what might have taken months in the past.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And wasting time doing those labour-intensive email exchanges isn't a good way to spend time, money, or effort. That's not doing anything for the sourcing profession.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If that person automates the repetitive stuff, they can use the time they've created to do something of more value. Maybe they'll actually put their key suppliers together with their marketing folks, and help the suppliers better understand where the company is headed. That way, the suppliers can devote some energy and some manpower and some research power to making the enhancements that are going to be important for the company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's a win/win all around.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement can be notoriously bad at internal communication and marketing with stakeholders. That's an area we really have to improve upon. But in fairness, the reason why is often that Procurement is stuck in the weeds doing administrative jobs. So technology can have a huge benefit there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology won't revolutionise things on its own, but if we apply it correctly, it will give us more free time, and it will give us answers faster. But whether or not we use that time and those answers to communicate better and elevate our profession is, ultimately, in the hands of people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People often moan about procurement not having a seat at the table. But a lot of important corporate functions don't have a seat at the table either. No-one's going to hand that out.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You need to be showing the business that you are focused on their goals and what they're trying to achieve. Sometimes, that's figuring out a way to lower costs, because a competitor just figured out a way to do it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We've all been clobbered by supply chain issues lately. There's a lot of talk about onshoring, or nearshoring. Everyone seems to understand that. But people aren't necessarily taking action on it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a whole different way of thinking about procurement, where we need to look at the total cost. Because if you - for example - have emergency transport to air freight something from China, that's probably not going on procurement's budget, but it's still a cost to the business overall.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need to find ways to level out the differences in salaries and the increase in transport costs. There will always be uncertain commodities because manufacturing bases are so dense in certain countries.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But in some cases, that may prove to be a false economy, once you really dig in and look at things like production stoppages and surplus inventory.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not as easy as you may think, in terms of working out the total cost.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up today's episode by thanking Joanna for coming on the Podcast and sharing her knowledge.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you'd like to get in touch with Joanna, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time!</span>
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannamartinez/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://martinezjo.com/scadvisors/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Joanna’s website</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">951ad89f-9ae9-4c39-9bb1-fbd0a57a9e7e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3f527c41-5a01-43fd-bdcb-b7c3be347522/Procuretech-20ep-209-20Joanna-20Martinez-20-20Supply-20Chain-20.mp3" length="26404577" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Agile Procurement: Fantasy or Attainable? – Mirko Kleiner from LAP Alliance</title><itunes:title>Agile Procurement: Fantasy or Attainable? – Mirko Kleiner from LAP Alliance</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This episode we're talking about agility, and we're joined by an expert on all things agile procurement: President of the Lean Agile Procurement Association, Mirko Kleiner.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Agile Procurement: Fantasy or Attainable? - Mirko Kleiner from LAP Alliance</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I first heard of Mirko back in 2016, when I saw him asking on his website why procurement can't be more fun, lean and agile. I'm a huge fan of this kind of thinking. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our talk today should prove that agility isn't just something for startups in the tech industry.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But before we get into that, let's have a quick recap on Mirko's journey so far.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko Kleiner – A brief background</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko's actually not a procurement professional. His roots are in the supplier side, which led to some big tenders from a software supplier back in the early 2000s.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He noticed a problem. Customers didn't know what they really wanted, and expected a fixed price fixed scope contract. So back in summer 2018, Mirko got inspired by the fact that there was no solution for handling this kind of uncertainty.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And so he decided to reinvent the wheel and start on page one. If procurement didn't exist Right? How would we design that from scratch? That was the starting hypothesis.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because of his software background, he was used to having just one day to close the deal, sign the contract and start collaboration and delivery the next day. That was his starting point.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And out of this crazy idea, a whole new movement and a whole new approach evolved.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The evolution of Agile Procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The first step was bringing together the right people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then they asked, what are the expected outcomes? A lot of customers seemed to struggle internally over expectations at the very high level.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Something magic happened when they realised they needed to bring in suppliers.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Instead of sending around documents as we used to do in the past, the idea was to invite suppliers into the discussion at the ground floor. To have them simultaneously in the same room - physically, or virtually - to co create the solution.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This can close the deal within hours, or days, depending on the complexity of the case.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And this doesn't just apply to software procurement. It extends to buying raw materials or professional services. The approach could apply to any category, direct and indirect.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not a silver bullet - if you have a commodity, something that you could buy off the shelf, or a finished product, then you're better using a reverse auction or an RFP.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But if you have a level of uncertainty, innovation, or it's very organisational complexity, sometimes it's even a complexity, an organisational complexity, you should choose a more agile approach.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile is is a great way to be able to work with suppliers and understand what they bring to the table in terms of innovation on top of just commercial factors.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The role of technology in Agile Procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It might seem like agility isn't impacted much by technology. After all, so much of what Mirko does is about bringing people together.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But technology actually facilitates that process. You can't always meet in person. And bringing together 70 people from different suppliers virtually would not have been possible several years back.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From a procurement perspective, Mirko collaborates a lot with the World Commercial Contracting Association. They have tons of great numbers and studies that point to the importance of transparent supplier data. So that's definitely key.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Commodity sourcing is going more in the direction of a self-serving model. This combines with the general benefits of automating tedious processes: The opportunity to speed up how we work and free up time for more tactical concerns.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we can get clean data and single sources of truth for things like vendor master data and contracts, that definitely supports agility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might not be the central piece of the puzzle, but technology is definitely an enabler in that regard.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing agility – the next stage</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">If companies have done their homework with technology, by putting things in place like a single source of truth, that's just the beginning of the journey for Agile.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Roche is a good example. Part of their organisation stepped out of being just a service or a support to the business, into being a more proactive enabler of the organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They started to proactively work together with the business, to educate them, so that they could source themselves or become a real problem solver and a transformational coach to the organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Another example - a lot of companies are still at the stage where they need to optimise and create a single source of truth. Agile recently sourced an ERP system in just four weeks.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When it comes to enabling businesses through technology, Agile can be a great catalyst for change.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Certification from industry associations</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko sounds like a classic example of someone from a non-procurement background coming in and spotting inefficiencies. Some industry bodies might seem a little bit stale.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Given his radical approach, have any of the industry's major associations or certification bodies been in touch?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko says they have. Agile is currently working closely with World Commerce and Contracting, for example. They've also come up with their own certification and training.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is incredibly important. Because when you negotiate these kinds of changes, you're not just looking for a customer supplier relationship, you're looking for strategic partners.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You shouldn't treat a partner with this good cop / bad cop negotiation style. So that also needs to change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In a big sense, the whole part of management needs to change and become much more agile as well. So the Agile values become crucial here, it's all founded on that.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile is also working together with CIPS (the Chartered Institute of Procurement &amp; Supply).</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But Mirko admits that for some of these organisations, the response has been: “What the heck?”</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile can be seen as a competitor by these old monoliths, but in truth it's complimentary. It could could become an integral integral part of their curriculum for their members.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's going to take time and working closely together with those associations to get the message across.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">A new Agile ecosystem</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Agility is bigger than procurement – it applies to finance, it applies to marketing, it applies across the board. And these conversations are becoming more and more common.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko has the feeling that all these movements are about to come together. He's currently in progress with some other thought leaders to build up a kind of ecosystem: New topics, new training materials, and sharing data to potentially have a huge, huge impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, last year Agile began working with the public sector. Did you know that public sector procurement is responsible for 10-15% of GDP?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's huge. And Agile could do some really important work in that space. Not just commercially, but in terms of all the other topics that procurement now takes care of like sustainability.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement historically, both in the private and public sectors, has tended to think in categories. Whereas the classic example across the rest of the world and business at large just just doesn't.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a perfect fit for Agile to bring some much-needed change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">However, the Agile world needs to understand procurement better too. It takes two to tango, as they say. And that's an ongoing and evolving process.</span>

&nbsp;...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This episode we're talking about agility, and we're joined by an expert on all things agile procurement: President of the Lean Agile Procurement Association, Mirko Kleiner.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Agile Procurement: Fantasy or Attainable? - Mirko Kleiner from LAP Alliance</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I first heard of Mirko back in 2016, when I saw him asking on his website why procurement can't be more fun, lean and agile. I'm a huge fan of this kind of thinking. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our talk today should prove that agility isn't just something for startups in the tech industry.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But before we get into that, let's have a quick recap on Mirko's journey so far.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko Kleiner – A brief background</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko's actually not a procurement professional. His roots are in the supplier side, which led to some big tenders from a software supplier back in the early 2000s.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He noticed a problem. Customers didn't know what they really wanted, and expected a fixed price fixed scope contract. So back in summer 2018, Mirko got inspired by the fact that there was no solution for handling this kind of uncertainty.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And so he decided to reinvent the wheel and start on page one. If procurement didn't exist Right? How would we design that from scratch? That was the starting hypothesis.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because of his software background, he was used to having just one day to close the deal, sign the contract and start collaboration and delivery the next day. That was his starting point.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And out of this crazy idea, a whole new movement and a whole new approach evolved.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The evolution of Agile Procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The first step was bringing together the right people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then they asked, what are the expected outcomes? A lot of customers seemed to struggle internally over expectations at the very high level.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Something magic happened when they realised they needed to bring in suppliers.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Instead of sending around documents as we used to do in the past, the idea was to invite suppliers into the discussion at the ground floor. To have them simultaneously in the same room - physically, or virtually - to co create the solution.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This can close the deal within hours, or days, depending on the complexity of the case.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And this doesn't just apply to software procurement. It extends to buying raw materials or professional services. The approach could apply to any category, direct and indirect.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not a silver bullet - if you have a commodity, something that you could buy off the shelf, or a finished product, then you're better using a reverse auction or an RFP.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But if you have a level of uncertainty, innovation, or it's very organisational complexity, sometimes it's even a complexity, an organisational complexity, you should choose a more agile approach.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile is is a great way to be able to work with suppliers and understand what they bring to the table in terms of innovation on top of just commercial factors.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The role of technology in Agile Procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It might seem like agility isn't impacted much by technology. After all, so much of what Mirko does is about bringing people together.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But technology actually facilitates that process. You can't always meet in person. And bringing together 70 people from different suppliers virtually would not have been possible several years back.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From a procurement perspective, Mirko collaborates a lot with the World Commercial Contracting Association. They have tons of great numbers and studies that point to the importance of transparent supplier data. So that's definitely key.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Commodity sourcing is going more in the direction of a self-serving model. This combines with the general benefits of automating tedious processes: The opportunity to speed up how we work and free up time for more tactical concerns.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we can get clean data and single sources of truth for things like vendor master data and contracts, that definitely supports agility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might not be the central piece of the puzzle, but technology is definitely an enabler in that regard.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing agility – the next stage</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">If companies have done their homework with technology, by putting things in place like a single source of truth, that's just the beginning of the journey for Agile.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Roche is a good example. Part of their organisation stepped out of being just a service or a support to the business, into being a more proactive enabler of the organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They started to proactively work together with the business, to educate them, so that they could source themselves or become a real problem solver and a transformational coach to the organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Another example - a lot of companies are still at the stage where they need to optimise and create a single source of truth. Agile recently sourced an ERP system in just four weeks.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When it comes to enabling businesses through technology, Agile can be a great catalyst for change.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Certification from industry associations</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko sounds like a classic example of someone from a non-procurement background coming in and spotting inefficiencies. Some industry bodies might seem a little bit stale.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Given his radical approach, have any of the industry's major associations or certification bodies been in touch?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko says they have. Agile is currently working closely with World Commerce and Contracting, for example. They've also come up with their own certification and training.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is incredibly important. Because when you negotiate these kinds of changes, you're not just looking for a customer supplier relationship, you're looking for strategic partners.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You shouldn't treat a partner with this good cop / bad cop negotiation style. So that also needs to change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In a big sense, the whole part of management needs to change and become much more agile as well. So the Agile values become crucial here, it's all founded on that.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile is also working together with CIPS (the Chartered Institute of Procurement &amp; Supply).</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But Mirko admits that for some of these organisations, the response has been: “What the heck?”</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile can be seen as a competitor by these old monoliths, but in truth it's complimentary. It could could become an integral integral part of their curriculum for their members.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's going to take time and working closely together with those associations to get the message across.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">A new Agile ecosystem</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Agility is bigger than procurement – it applies to finance, it applies to marketing, it applies across the board. And these conversations are becoming more and more common.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko has the feeling that all these movements are about to come together. He's currently in progress with some other thought leaders to build up a kind of ecosystem: New topics, new training materials, and sharing data to potentially have a huge, huge impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, last year Agile began working with the public sector. Did you know that public sector procurement is responsible for 10-15% of GDP?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's huge. And Agile could do some really important work in that space. Not just commercially, but in terms of all the other topics that procurement now takes care of like sustainability.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement historically, both in the private and public sectors, has tended to think in categories. Whereas the classic example across the rest of the world and business at large just just doesn't.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a perfect fit for Agile to bring some much-needed change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">However, the Agile world needs to understand procurement better too. It takes two to tango, as they say. And that's an ongoing and evolving process.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks so much to Mirko Kleiner from LAP Alliance for joining us today.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you'd like to get in touch, or learn more about Mirko's work, check out Agile's website.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You'll find all their case studies, approaches and papers there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Agile also has a global study on the current state of agility in procurement supply, that you can download for free. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And if you want to learn even more, Agile has public classes on all those topics that you could sign up to.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Links to all of these can be found below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time!</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">out</span><a href="https://www.lean-agile-procurement.com/"> <span style="font-weight: 400">Lean Agile Procurement</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400">'s website</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirkokleiner/?originalSubdomain=ch"> <span style="font-weight: 400">Mirko on Linkedin</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b6c60726-cd9d-4431-9711-842e73bd40f0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/38daf4e6-3ea7-414d-940b-d599ba6d33da/Procuretech-20ep-208-20Mirko-20Kleiner-20-20LAP-20Alliance.mp3" length="53418323" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Success with E-Auctions – Jacob Gorm Larsen from Moneyball CPH</title><itunes:title>Success with E-Auctions – Jacob Gorm Larsen from Moneyball CPH</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're talking about E-Auctions and E-Sourcing. Depending on how the technology's been deployed, some people might be sceptical about this topic.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But our guest today literally wrote the book on E-Sourcing, and he's here to explain the upsides. Let's welcome to the podcast Jacob Gorm Larson, of Moneyball CPH.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Success with E-Auctions - Jacob Gorm Larsen from Moneyball CPH</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We're going to talk about current trends in E-sourcing from a platform agnostic viewpoint. We might all have our favourite - or least favourite - platforms, but we won't be going into specifics here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Instead we'll be sharing all the tips, tactics, and observations Jacob has learned during his long career in this space.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We began our chat with a brief rundown of Jacob's history…</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob Gorm Larson – A career in E-sourcing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob's been in the procurement space for around 20 years.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He spent most of that time with Maersk, the global shipping company. Maersk used to be a conglomerate, so they would operate in oil, gas, offshore logistics and a couple of other industries.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob introduced E-sourcing across all these different industries, and in doing so, learned that it's not an industry or category specific thing. It can be applied in any industry with the right knowledge.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But E-sourcing can be a divisive topic within procurement, because people don't fully understand the technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's why Jacob wrote his book, so he could share the kind of knowledge he wished he had access to at the start of his journey. The book sparked some interest, and a year later Jacob found himself moving to an advisory role.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He now supports companies in their procurement transformation process.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">How did the rise of technology impact Jacob's career at Maersk, and how did this improve results at auction?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob says he had a fantastic ride with E-sourcing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He came into his role at Maersk in 2007/8, so there was a huge degree of uncertainty, being right on the brink of the financial crisis. This had a lot of companies in dire straits and facing a lot of challenges.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There was a desperate need for securing cost savings. In many ways there are a lot of similarities to the situation right now, with record level inflation across the world and a potential recession coming in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It could well be that within the next six months, we see another huge drive for technologies that can help companies take out costs, and bring down the overall cost base.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that was exactly what Jacob used E-sourcing for back then, too. It was there when companies needed it the most. And so Jacob got support from all the way up the company to introduce it, to push it. promote it and drive it quite hard across all areas of the company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He realised during that time that E-sourcing is in the DNA of procurement as a function: There's a constant need to own the cost agenda. And one very efficient way of doing that is to apply E-sourcing and E-auctions,</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also added a lot of sourcing optimization capabilities later on, creating a full toolbox to digitally tackle the market and ensure they were always cost competitive within Maerks's various markets.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The five pillars of successful E-sourcing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob's book breaks things down into five pillars required for a successful E-sourcing strategy. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">These are:</span>
<ol>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Definition </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Strategy</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Bidder </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">engagement</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Adoption and change management</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">The future of E-auctions</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot of people think E-auctions are the same as reverse auctions. But they're not the same thing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob defines an E-auction as any auction in an online, market-driven negotiation, based on total value with commitment. That definition is absolutely key for understanding the potential of auctions if you drive it strategically.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First of all, it has to be market driven. Of course you need multiple suppliers to participate in your negotiation. But the total value piece is another essential part of the definition. Where a lot of companies fail with auctions is that they don't get the total value part included in their approach.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Not all negotiations - actually very few - are purely price based. That's probably one of the top myths about E-auctions, that they're just about price.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you want a real negotiation, you need to be able to include other parameters. And if you do it right, you can include any parameter in your auctions.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The last, and maybe the most important, part of the definition is commitment.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you don't commit or award based on the auction result, it's not a real negotiation. It's a market benchmark exercise.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's where you get a lot of frustration from suppliers: “Why are we doing this just to give you a benchmark?”. That's not sustainable. You have to treat suppliers with respect and you have to be consistent.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Commitment is an absolutely essential part of running a sustainable auction program. If you do that, you'll also get the respect and the acceptance from your supply base required to participate in these events.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">AI, machine learning and suggested pricing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Pricing has always been a tricky thing to evaluate in-platform. Some platforms are now implementing AI and machine learning to enable suggested pricing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is an absolute game-changer when it comes to facilitating bidder engagement: They'll be more engaged, knowing that they're not going to get beaten up on price. And in return, that helps internal shareholders become more engaged too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Interestingly, suggested pricing isn't a new thing. Glen Meakem, who founded FreeMarkets (the first E-auction platform) 25 years ago actually submitted a patent for this very thing. The problem was that very few users were actually using it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It comes down to a problem of understanding, UI, and training.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You don't become a Formula One driver, by putting yourself in a Formula One car. You need training to get the most out of these tools. And in turn, the tools need to be designed with users in mind.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Another huge barrier to adoption here is change management, mindset, and the lack of buy-in from the procurement community. There is still a lot of convincing to do.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">E-auctions and the future</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement professionals now, especially with a recession around the corner, are going to have to do more with less resources. Giving them an electronic sourcing platform that's perceived as something that creates more work for them is not going to bring them on board.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need tools that are more easily usable. And, looking towards the future, maybe companies should consider solutions for autonomous negotiations, or using machine learning or scraping for supplier scouting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's the fantastic thing about what has been going on here over the last couple of years. If you look 10 years back, the only digital option you truly had for addressing your sourcing needs was out of the boxE-sourcing platforms. But today we have a range of different solutions.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can have a customer who is doing the predictive part of procurement. So why even negotiate if we can predict the price and tuse that as an anchor towards suppliers? Now you have a Paxum who's introducing chatbot negotiators.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Keelvar do sourcing optimization, but they also do the...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're talking about E-Auctions and E-Sourcing. Depending on how the technology's been deployed, some people might be sceptical about this topic.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But our guest today literally wrote the book on E-Sourcing, and he's here to explain the upsides. Let's welcome to the podcast Jacob Gorm Larson, of Moneyball CPH.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Success with E-Auctions - Jacob Gorm Larsen from Moneyball CPH</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We're going to talk about current trends in E-sourcing from a platform agnostic viewpoint. We might all have our favourite - or least favourite - platforms, but we won't be going into specifics here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Instead we'll be sharing all the tips, tactics, and observations Jacob has learned during his long career in this space.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We began our chat with a brief rundown of Jacob's history…</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob Gorm Larson – A career in E-sourcing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob's been in the procurement space for around 20 years.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He spent most of that time with Maersk, the global shipping company. Maersk used to be a conglomerate, so they would operate in oil, gas, offshore logistics and a couple of other industries.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob introduced E-sourcing across all these different industries, and in doing so, learned that it's not an industry or category specific thing. It can be applied in any industry with the right knowledge.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But E-sourcing can be a divisive topic within procurement, because people don't fully understand the technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's why Jacob wrote his book, so he could share the kind of knowledge he wished he had access to at the start of his journey. The book sparked some interest, and a year later Jacob found himself moving to an advisory role.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He now supports companies in their procurement transformation process.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">How did the rise of technology impact Jacob's career at Maersk, and how did this improve results at auction?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob says he had a fantastic ride with E-sourcing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He came into his role at Maersk in 2007/8, so there was a huge degree of uncertainty, being right on the brink of the financial crisis. This had a lot of companies in dire straits and facing a lot of challenges.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There was a desperate need for securing cost savings. In many ways there are a lot of similarities to the situation right now, with record level inflation across the world and a potential recession coming in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It could well be that within the next six months, we see another huge drive for technologies that can help companies take out costs, and bring down the overall cost base.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that was exactly what Jacob used E-sourcing for back then, too. It was there when companies needed it the most. And so Jacob got support from all the way up the company to introduce it, to push it. promote it and drive it quite hard across all areas of the company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He realised during that time that E-sourcing is in the DNA of procurement as a function: There's a constant need to own the cost agenda. And one very efficient way of doing that is to apply E-sourcing and E-auctions,</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also added a lot of sourcing optimization capabilities later on, creating a full toolbox to digitally tackle the market and ensure they were always cost competitive within Maerks's various markets.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The five pillars of successful E-sourcing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob's book breaks things down into five pillars required for a successful E-sourcing strategy. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">These are:</span>
<ol>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Definition </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Strategy</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Bidder </span> <span style="font-weight: 400">engagement</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Adoption and change management</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">The future of E-auctions</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot of people think E-auctions are the same as reverse auctions. But they're not the same thing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob defines an E-auction as any auction in an online, market-driven negotiation, based on total value with commitment. That definition is absolutely key for understanding the potential of auctions if you drive it strategically.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First of all, it has to be market driven. Of course you need multiple suppliers to participate in your negotiation. But the total value piece is another essential part of the definition. Where a lot of companies fail with auctions is that they don't get the total value part included in their approach.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Not all negotiations - actually very few - are purely price based. That's probably one of the top myths about E-auctions, that they're just about price.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you want a real negotiation, you need to be able to include other parameters. And if you do it right, you can include any parameter in your auctions.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The last, and maybe the most important, part of the definition is commitment.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you don't commit or award based on the auction result, it's not a real negotiation. It's a market benchmark exercise.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's where you get a lot of frustration from suppliers: “Why are we doing this just to give you a benchmark?”. That's not sustainable. You have to treat suppliers with respect and you have to be consistent.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Commitment is an absolutely essential part of running a sustainable auction program. If you do that, you'll also get the respect and the acceptance from your supply base required to participate in these events.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">AI, machine learning and suggested pricing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Pricing has always been a tricky thing to evaluate in-platform. Some platforms are now implementing AI and machine learning to enable suggested pricing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is an absolute game-changer when it comes to facilitating bidder engagement: They'll be more engaged, knowing that they're not going to get beaten up on price. And in return, that helps internal shareholders become more engaged too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Interestingly, suggested pricing isn't a new thing. Glen Meakem, who founded FreeMarkets (the first E-auction platform) 25 years ago actually submitted a patent for this very thing. The problem was that very few users were actually using it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It comes down to a problem of understanding, UI, and training.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You don't become a Formula One driver, by putting yourself in a Formula One car. You need training to get the most out of these tools. And in turn, the tools need to be designed with users in mind.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Another huge barrier to adoption here is change management, mindset, and the lack of buy-in from the procurement community. There is still a lot of convincing to do.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">E-auctions and the future</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement professionals now, especially with a recession around the corner, are going to have to do more with less resources. Giving them an electronic sourcing platform that's perceived as something that creates more work for them is not going to bring them on board.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need tools that are more easily usable. And, looking towards the future, maybe companies should consider solutions for autonomous negotiations, or using machine learning or scraping for supplier scouting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's the fantastic thing about what has been going on here over the last couple of years. If you look 10 years back, the only digital option you truly had for addressing your sourcing needs was out of the boxE-sourcing platforms. But today we have a range of different solutions.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can have a customer who is doing the predictive part of procurement. So why even negotiate if we can predict the price and tuse that as an anchor towards suppliers? Now you have a Paxum who's introducing chatbot negotiators.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Keelvar do sourcing optimization, but they also do the sourcing bots - for example, for ocean freight.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So for the first time in history, the procurement organisations have a full digital toolbox available for how to address this spend in times of economic uncertainty.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jacob thinks technology will be a differentiator here: The organisations who manage to truly embrace all of these opportunities, versus the laggards that are still just getting started on digital sourcing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But it's not just technology. Jacob believes that change is actually 90% people driven. It's not about the tech, so much as in the heads of the people who need to apply it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When it comes to the future of talent, he believes that we'll focus more on how data and tech-savvy people are.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks the days will soon be gone, where you have the old school negotiator who has done this for 30 years, who'll swing suppliers around and get a good deal.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In terms of leadership as well, the technocrats and the policemen will soon become a thing of the past. We need to be more focused on an entrepreneurial mindset and agility in terms of getting things done, rather than following a process.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks to Jacob Gorm Larsen for a fascinating dive into E-sourcing and E-auctions, there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you'd like to get in touch, or would like a copy of Jacob's book, A Practical Guide to E-auctions for Procurement, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And in the meantime, if you want to explore what's out there in the E-sourcing space, we've got 26 solutions listed on Procurementsoftware.site. So head on over there and use the filters to find what you're looking for.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out</span> <a href="https://moneyballcph.com/home"><span style="font-weight: 400">Moneyball CPH</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-gorm-larsen-2220272/?originalSubdomain=dk"><span style="font-weight: 400"> Jacob on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Read Jacob’s book:</span><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-auctions-Procurement-Sourcing-Negotiation/dp/1398600288"><span style="font-weight: 400"> A Practical Guide to E-auctions for Procurement</span></a></li>
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<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our series of interviews with industry experts and thought leaders to get their take on digital procurement. In this episode, we're going to extend that a little bit and talk about supply chain.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Democratising Supply Chain Training - Dr. Muddassir Ahmed from SCMDOJO </span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is a big personality in the supply chain space: Dr. Muddassir Ahmed, CEO of SCMDOJO. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's got a YouTube channel with almost 10,000 subscribers and a complete resource platform for online courses. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But before we talk about that, let's get some background on how he got there.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Dr. Muddassir Ahmed's background – From corporate to SCM thought leadership</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir studied abroad in Sweden, where he earned a masters in production and supply chain. He then moved to the UK for a PhD scholarship. Settling in Birmingham, he began work for the manufacturing company Eaton. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir started work as a demand planner, but got to experience a wide range of roles at Eaton. He gained experience in supply chain across different departments; electrical, automotive, aerospace, hydraulics. So he's hardcore supply chain guy, through and through.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When he finished his PhD in 2015, he realised that most content in the supply chain space was pretty archaic in nature. FinTech content at the time was a lot more attractive: Punchy articles, simple “How To...” guides, easy to read lists. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thought he'd try to bring this bite-sized content to the world of supply chain, and it worked!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What started out as a personal blog quickly grew into a brand in its own right, taking on the name SCMDOJO in July 2018.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">SCMDOJO now gets 50,000 visitors every month, and the YouTube channel is growing too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dojo is a Japanese word which means place to stay and meditate. And that's exactly what SCMDOJO does. It gives the supply chain community  knowledge, tools and best practices, to help them survive and thrive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Last year, Muddassir took his biggest risk yet, when he left his job to focus on SCM Dojo.
</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What impacts has Muddassir seen from disruptive procurement technology?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir thinks we have a lot of catching up to do, in procurement. We're easily a decade behind FinTech when it comes to digitisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He often gets criticised by the big ERP providers for saying this, but he thinks they're really slowing us down. If the same four ERP providers didn't have a stranglehold on 80% of the market, things would change more quickly. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There has been a move to adopting digital tools lately, but the downside from Muddassir's perspective is that they're rarely made by supply chain people. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Every supply chain is very vertical driven, and needs to be customised to the user's business model. This takes consultation and a lot of time. As a result, transformation in supply chain has been slow. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might be 10 years late, but better late than never. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The flurry of startups in recent years presents some problems. Everyone wants to go the SaaS route, but there's no clear guide on which software to use, how to use it, or how best to customise it. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Or, you go the enterprise route and it ends up costing millions of dollars and 20 consultants. Which, of course, not everyone has the budget for.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Even if companies do want to embark on supply chain transformation, they often don't know where to start.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Lessons in digital transformation</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir offers courses to help businesses take that first step, and he thinks there are two big things companies need to learn.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First, there's a difference between digitization and digital transformation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can digitise a paper process easily enough – for example, sending emails through DocuSign. But that's not the same as using technology to transform the way you do business at a structural level.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People often jump on a new technology without thinking about the bigger picture of change management. Sure, you can rush to buy into AI, or deploy cloud, or blockchain. But it's not going to create value without a plan on how that fits your business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can implement the best technology but with poor change management it will fail.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Each technology has a specific application, there is no one size fits all. And that awareness needs to be created.  That's the first part. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The second thing is that you have to standardise to digitalize. You can spend millions on an online product, but if you're not standardised you won't see ROI.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's also a benefit to choosing software that team members actually want to use – UI and UX count for a lot. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And talking about choice, it's worth focusing that selection process, on how we select a platform. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Historically, in a big company you have two problems when choosing software:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First, there's security. For a big company it can take four or five months just to make sure something is secure. And that's just too long, we need to get that time down – possibly on the software development side of things.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The second problem is, again, who is making the decision? It should be supply chain and procurement people with relevant knowledge who get to select the software used, but because there are such costs involved, it often becomes more of a finance decision.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But price should come later as a consideration. You first need to be happy with the UX and UI, and the integration with your current ERP so the transfer of the data is seamless.
</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">On Demand, modular best-of-breeds, and why we need them</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">People also don't want to use multiple platforms. If I'm a supply chain manager, I want to do everything on one platform. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If I have to use a separate platform to do RFQ procurement and standard spend analytics, then use my ERP to create my purchase orders and track my shipments, then somebody else has got to give me visibility... I'm using four different platforms for one job, and that's just too much. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We are seeing some changes here. Coupa is moving towards implementing supply chain and procurement software in one platform. And a lot of the smaller best-of-breeds are now moving towards a more modular structure. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">These new players are starting to replace the older legacy players, because they're expensive, slow, and built on legacy stacks that are no longer fit for purpose. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tech is now more accessible to medium sized or smaller businesses that don't have the budget for any of these big enterprise suites. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir thinks that pricing will be a huge factor in the success of these modular best-of-breeds.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">These modular platforms might come with a handful of features, but if you only want to use two of them, why pay for the whole shebang?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Maybe a user wants to, say, use the RFQ module all the time, but only needs the CRM software one every six months. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">An On Demand price model would be the best solution here. Then the user can pay only for the modules they're using, when they're using them. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's obviously very attractive as a thing to adopt.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Whichever software company first offers this sort of On Demand modularity should be on to a real winner. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">How does SCMDOJO help to educate people?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There are three levels. It's like a Venn diagram of overlapping spheres. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The first sphere is the obvious one: knowledge. SCMDOJO has different teaching pathways here: A supply chain manager pathway, a logistics manager, a demand planning pathway, etc. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People see SCMDOJO as a knowledge platform, not a solutions platform. But the tagline is knowledge and solution. And that's where the other two spheres come in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If the first is knowledge (core technical knowledge, sourcing, contract management, demand planning, supply, planning, logistics), then the second sphere is the human level: Communication, presentation, how you interact with people. </span>

<span style="font-weight:]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our series of interviews with industry experts and thought leaders to get their take on digital procurement. In this episode, we're going to extend that a little bit and talk about supply chain.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Democratising Supply Chain Training - Dr. Muddassir Ahmed from SCMDOJO </span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is a big personality in the supply chain space: Dr. Muddassir Ahmed, CEO of SCMDOJO. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's got a YouTube channel with almost 10,000 subscribers and a complete resource platform for online courses. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But before we talk about that, let's get some background on how he got there.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Dr. Muddassir Ahmed's background – From corporate to SCM thought leadership</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir studied abroad in Sweden, where he earned a masters in production and supply chain. He then moved to the UK for a PhD scholarship. Settling in Birmingham, he began work for the manufacturing company Eaton. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir started work as a demand planner, but got to experience a wide range of roles at Eaton. He gained experience in supply chain across different departments; electrical, automotive, aerospace, hydraulics. So he's hardcore supply chain guy, through and through.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When he finished his PhD in 2015, he realised that most content in the supply chain space was pretty archaic in nature. FinTech content at the time was a lot more attractive: Punchy articles, simple “How To...” guides, easy to read lists. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thought he'd try to bring this bite-sized content to the world of supply chain, and it worked!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What started out as a personal blog quickly grew into a brand in its own right, taking on the name SCMDOJO in July 2018.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">SCMDOJO now gets 50,000 visitors every month, and the YouTube channel is growing too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dojo is a Japanese word which means place to stay and meditate. And that's exactly what SCMDOJO does. It gives the supply chain community  knowledge, tools and best practices, to help them survive and thrive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Last year, Muddassir took his biggest risk yet, when he left his job to focus on SCM Dojo.
</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What impacts has Muddassir seen from disruptive procurement technology?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir thinks we have a lot of catching up to do, in procurement. We're easily a decade behind FinTech when it comes to digitisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He often gets criticised by the big ERP providers for saying this, but he thinks they're really slowing us down. If the same four ERP providers didn't have a stranglehold on 80% of the market, things would change more quickly. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There has been a move to adopting digital tools lately, but the downside from Muddassir's perspective is that they're rarely made by supply chain people. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Every supply chain is very vertical driven, and needs to be customised to the user's business model. This takes consultation and a lot of time. As a result, transformation in supply chain has been slow. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It might be 10 years late, but better late than never. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The flurry of startups in recent years presents some problems. Everyone wants to go the SaaS route, but there's no clear guide on which software to use, how to use it, or how best to customise it. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Or, you go the enterprise route and it ends up costing millions of dollars and 20 consultants. Which, of course, not everyone has the budget for.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Even if companies do want to embark on supply chain transformation, they often don't know where to start.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Lessons in digital transformation</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir offers courses to help businesses take that first step, and he thinks there are two big things companies need to learn.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First, there's a difference between digitization and digital transformation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can digitise a paper process easily enough – for example, sending emails through DocuSign. But that's not the same as using technology to transform the way you do business at a structural level.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People often jump on a new technology without thinking about the bigger picture of change management. Sure, you can rush to buy into AI, or deploy cloud, or blockchain. But it's not going to create value without a plan on how that fits your business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can implement the best technology but with poor change management it will fail.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Each technology has a specific application, there is no one size fits all. And that awareness needs to be created.  That's the first part. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The second thing is that you have to standardise to digitalize. You can spend millions on an online product, but if you're not standardised you won't see ROI.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's also a benefit to choosing software that team members actually want to use – UI and UX count for a lot. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And talking about choice, it's worth focusing that selection process, on how we select a platform. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Historically, in a big company you have two problems when choosing software:</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">First, there's security. For a big company it can take four or five months just to make sure something is secure. And that's just too long, we need to get that time down – possibly on the software development side of things.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The second problem is, again, who is making the decision? It should be supply chain and procurement people with relevant knowledge who get to select the software used, but because there are such costs involved, it often becomes more of a finance decision.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But price should come later as a consideration. You first need to be happy with the UX and UI, and the integration with your current ERP so the transfer of the data is seamless.
</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">On Demand, modular best-of-breeds, and why we need them</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">People also don't want to use multiple platforms. If I'm a supply chain manager, I want to do everything on one platform. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If I have to use a separate platform to do RFQ procurement and standard spend analytics, then use my ERP to create my purchase orders and track my shipments, then somebody else has got to give me visibility... I'm using four different platforms for one job, and that's just too much. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We are seeing some changes here. Coupa is moving towards implementing supply chain and procurement software in one platform. And a lot of the smaller best-of-breeds are now moving towards a more modular structure. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">These new players are starting to replace the older legacy players, because they're expensive, slow, and built on legacy stacks that are no longer fit for purpose. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tech is now more accessible to medium sized or smaller businesses that don't have the budget for any of these big enterprise suites. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir thinks that pricing will be a huge factor in the success of these modular best-of-breeds.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">These modular platforms might come with a handful of features, but if you only want to use two of them, why pay for the whole shebang?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Maybe a user wants to, say, use the RFQ module all the time, but only needs the CRM software one every six months. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">An On Demand price model would be the best solution here. Then the user can pay only for the modules they're using, when they're using them. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's obviously very attractive as a thing to adopt.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Whichever software company first offers this sort of On Demand modularity should be on to a real winner. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">How does SCMDOJO help to educate people?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There are three levels. It's like a Venn diagram of overlapping spheres. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The first sphere is the obvious one: knowledge. SCMDOJO has different teaching pathways here: A supply chain manager pathway, a logistics manager, a demand planning pathway, etc. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People see SCMDOJO as a knowledge platform, not a solutions platform. But the tagline is knowledge and solution. And that's where the other two spheres come in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If the first is knowledge (core technical knowledge, sourcing, contract management, demand planning, supply, planning, logistics), then the second sphere is the human level: Communication, presentation, how you interact with people. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">SCMDOJO can teach all of this from a uniquely supply chain-focused perspective. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The third sphere is the digitalisation part: which technology you buy into and how you implement it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What gives SCMDOJO an advantage is the quality of mentoring available. It's about how you bring those three spheres together, and that takes coaching. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Tools in development</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">To that end, some new projects from Muddassir are aiming to address the technology side of things too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">“Phase two” of his plans with SCMDOJO are already in development. He's talking to developers and experts in the SCM space and beyond, and hoping to launch this phase of SCMDOJO soon. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The aim is to have a hundred experts on board by the end of year, available to SCMDOJO users as subject experts they can hire for one to one coaching.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The end goal is to create one true platform for SCM knowledge and solution expertise, offering standard practices and tools to drive a revolution in supply chain.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Muddassir would love to hear from you if you're a supply chain expert who'd like to get involved with this project. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There is also an upcoming phase three to Muddassir's master plan with SCMDOJO, but that remains under wraps for now. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We close this episode of the Procuretech Podcast by thanking Muddassir for his time and insights. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We also tease an exciting up-and-coming collaboration between Muddassir and myself – so watch this space!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you'd like to get in touch with Muddassir, or to join his SCM revolution, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time!
</span>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out</span> <a href="https://www.scmdojo.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">SCMDOJO</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with</span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-muddassir-ahmed/?originalSubdomain=ae"><span style="font-weight: 400"> Muddassir on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
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&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Content and Community for Procurement - Daniel Barnes from Gatekeeper</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we've got a returning guest who was on the first series of the podcast way back in 2020.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's a man who needs no introduction. But we're going to give him one anyway.It’s procurement influencer Daniel Barnes, of World of Procurement and lately Gatekeeper.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">A quick catch up on the last few years</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It was the very start of the COVID pandemic when we last spoke. So we kick off the podcast by asking Dan what he's been up to since then.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot changed very quickly for Dan when the pandemic hit. He was working as a consultant in the defence space at the time, and COVID really impacted the pipeline of work in that space.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From there, he pivoted to a FinTech firm where he worked for around 18 months. During that time he started looking into procurement tech and contract tech.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In that role, he sourced and implemented a contract management product called Gatekeeper, then decided he wanted to join that company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan's got a legal background, including an undergraduate degree in commercial law. So the contract side of procurement comes naturally to him. He finds it fascinating, being able to hold his own against properly trained legal people like solicitors.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also felt like he could make a bigger impact at Gatekeeper - by showing off this kind of tech and educating people on the benefits of digital transformation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's been in the role of Community Manager over at Gatekeeper since June. His job now involves shooting content on topics like contract and risk management, and also working with Gatekeeper to help better position the business.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So that's lots of change in the last 6 months, let alone the last two years!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Dan's experience working in FinTech</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">When he joined the FinTech, Dan was the very last person to join the team. Everyone else was more focused on the supplier management side of things</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They had a CLM but it was basically just a repository that allows you to store metadata, and it didn't really do anything else. It was really painful to work with. It was probably just an Excel worksheet by the CMS, and then a user interface was slapped on top of it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Going into a FinTech space in a scale up environment was terrifying. Everything happens so fast. Dan realised that with all the admin workload, there was barely any time to any work that adds value.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And the work was boring, too. It was just the most mundane stuff - stuff that you could have a virtual assistant do for pennies, anywhere else in the world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He felt like a very well paid admin assistant a lot of the time. And that's bizarre, especially for a tech business.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing Gatekeeper</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thankfully, the company Dan was working for did get it. He managed to secure some investment to go out and find a solution that could change things.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They looked at maybe 10 different suppliers, in CLM, and the wider procurement space. Then eventually chose gatekeeper as the best solution.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It automated everything that might usually fall to a junior admin assistant – literally every single part of what that job spec would have looked like.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan can remember the early days when he could spend all day working in an Excel spreadsheet. These days, Excel gives Dan anxiety.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Spending all day in a spreadsheet isn't doing procurement. It's busy work.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People might shut down at any mention of AI, but it really moves things along when it comes to processes and workflows. Whether it's extracting data, creating records or reaching out to people, it reduces the time spent on jobs that don't add value.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is what Dan finds so empowering about technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are also really exciting social and ethical implications, too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan gives the example of the sustainability platform Circular. They're trying to make sure that the the raw materials that end up in our phones and our cars are devoid of slave labour, exploitative practices and corruption.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The platform uses Blockchain technology to make sure there's a trackable audit history, reducing ethically dubious practices.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks things like that are really a game changer.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not just good for procurement, it's going to benefit all of us as a society as well.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Gen Z and the sustainable future</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Many of today's global challenges – from the aftermath of COVID, to supply chain challenges and geopolitical risks – make it feel like now is the time for procurement to shine.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How can technology help us face down all the current uncertainty in the world?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan thinks that technology has a huge role to play, not least in attracting essential new talent. He looks to Gen Z and their need for more efficient, usable systems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As we get rid of the boring workload foisted onto procurement professionals, we're going to attract more creative thinkers. We're going to attract more diversity, more varying perspectives.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot of that generation has different priorities, for example a strong ethical belief in sustainability, and a consciousness of where products come from. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Working in procurement potentially enables you to impact what millions of people across the world buy. And that’s really exciting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But companies need to actually take this opportunity on. They have to rework all of their job specs and welcome this change.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Community Management</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Community Manager is a role that's very much in its infancy. How essential does Dan think it is, in terms of building a brand and marketing a SaaS product?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Gatekeeper is maybe a bit different to a lot of other SaaS solutions because it offers unlimited users. So everyone in a business has access to the platform, and that creates a community base from day one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Those people can give feedback, helping to shape and direct the platform's development. The customers want to grow the product too, for obviously selfish reasons.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Content is also incredibly important. Content has to be genuinely useful. If it has no value, no-one wants to read it. It's just a superficial thing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan thinks that they're lucky at Gatekeeper to have such insightful talent. The level of expertise at the company means that they have genuinely useful insights to share in their content.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">LinkedIn isn't always the biggest help – they don't really share much content.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So having someone like Dan come in is really valuable. If his videos get good viewership ,and are on topics that people are passionate about, that starts creating conversations.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then there's thought leadership content, webinars, all sorts of directions in which a community can grow.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's about putting value out first and foremost. And then good stuff will happen in one way or another.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">That's all for this episode of The Procuretech Podcast.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap things up by talking briefly about Dan's World of Procurement podcast, and an exciting upcoming podcast project he's working on with Gatekeeper.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can check that out, connect with Dan, or explore what Gatekeeper has to offer, using the links below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://www.gatekeeperhq.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Gatekeeper</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing with our mini series where we ask influencers and industry experts for their thoughts and nuggets of advice on everything that's happening in the digital procurement world.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Content and Community for Procurement - Daniel Barnes from Gatekeeper</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we've got a returning guest who was on the first series of the podcast way back in 2020.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's a man who needs no introduction. But we're going to give him one anyway.It’s procurement influencer Daniel Barnes, of World of Procurement and lately Gatekeeper.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">A quick catch up on the last few years</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It was the very start of the COVID pandemic when we last spoke. So we kick off the podcast by asking Dan what he's been up to since then.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot changed very quickly for Dan when the pandemic hit. He was working as a consultant in the defence space at the time, and COVID really impacted the pipeline of work in that space.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From there, he pivoted to a FinTech firm where he worked for around 18 months. During that time he started looking into procurement tech and contract tech.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In that role, he sourced and implemented a contract management product called Gatekeeper, then decided he wanted to join that company.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan's got a legal background, including an undergraduate degree in commercial law. So the contract side of procurement comes naturally to him. He finds it fascinating, being able to hold his own against properly trained legal people like solicitors.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also felt like he could make a bigger impact at Gatekeeper - by showing off this kind of tech and educating people on the benefits of digital transformation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's been in the role of Community Manager over at Gatekeeper since June. His job now involves shooting content on topics like contract and risk management, and also working with Gatekeeper to help better position the business.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So that's lots of change in the last 6 months, let alone the last two years!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Dan's experience working in FinTech</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">When he joined the FinTech, Dan was the very last person to join the team. Everyone else was more focused on the supplier management side of things</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They had a CLM but it was basically just a repository that allows you to store metadata, and it didn't really do anything else. It was really painful to work with. It was probably just an Excel worksheet by the CMS, and then a user interface was slapped on top of it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Going into a FinTech space in a scale up environment was terrifying. Everything happens so fast. Dan realised that with all the admin workload, there was barely any time to any work that adds value.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And the work was boring, too. It was just the most mundane stuff - stuff that you could have a virtual assistant do for pennies, anywhere else in the world.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He felt like a very well paid admin assistant a lot of the time. And that's bizarre, especially for a tech business.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing Gatekeeper</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thankfully, the company Dan was working for did get it. He managed to secure some investment to go out and find a solution that could change things.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They looked at maybe 10 different suppliers, in CLM, and the wider procurement space. Then eventually chose gatekeeper as the best solution.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It automated everything that might usually fall to a junior admin assistant – literally every single part of what that job spec would have looked like.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan can remember the early days when he could spend all day working in an Excel spreadsheet. These days, Excel gives Dan anxiety.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Spending all day in a spreadsheet isn't doing procurement. It's busy work.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People might shut down at any mention of AI, but it really moves things along when it comes to processes and workflows. Whether it's extracting data, creating records or reaching out to people, it reduces the time spent on jobs that don't add value.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is what Dan finds so empowering about technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are also really exciting social and ethical implications, too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan gives the example of the sustainability platform Circular. They're trying to make sure that the the raw materials that end up in our phones and our cars are devoid of slave labour, exploitative practices and corruption.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The platform uses Blockchain technology to make sure there's a trackable audit history, reducing ethically dubious practices.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks things like that are really a game changer.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not just good for procurement, it's going to benefit all of us as a society as well.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Gen Z and the sustainable future</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Many of today's global challenges – from the aftermath of COVID, to supply chain challenges and geopolitical risks – make it feel like now is the time for procurement to shine.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How can technology help us face down all the current uncertainty in the world?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan thinks that technology has a huge role to play, not least in attracting essential new talent. He looks to Gen Z and their need for more efficient, usable systems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As we get rid of the boring workload foisted onto procurement professionals, we're going to attract more creative thinkers. We're going to attract more diversity, more varying perspectives.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">A lot of that generation has different priorities, for example a strong ethical belief in sustainability, and a consciousness of where products come from. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Working in procurement potentially enables you to impact what millions of people across the world buy. And that’s really exciting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But companies need to actually take this opportunity on. They have to rework all of their job specs and welcome this change.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Community Management</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Community Manager is a role that's very much in its infancy. How essential does Dan think it is, in terms of building a brand and marketing a SaaS product?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Gatekeeper is maybe a bit different to a lot of other SaaS solutions because it offers unlimited users. So everyone in a business has access to the platform, and that creates a community base from day one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Those people can give feedback, helping to shape and direct the platform's development. The customers want to grow the product too, for obviously selfish reasons.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Content is also incredibly important. Content has to be genuinely useful. If it has no value, no-one wants to read it. It's just a superficial thing.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Dan thinks that they're lucky at Gatekeeper to have such insightful talent. The level of expertise at the company means that they have genuinely useful insights to share in their content.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">LinkedIn isn't always the biggest help – they don't really share much content.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So having someone like Dan come in is really valuable. If his videos get good viewership ,and are on topics that people are passionate about, that starts creating conversations.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then there's thought leadership content, webinars, all sorts of directions in which a community can grow.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's about putting value out first and foremost. And then good stuff will happen in one way or another.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">That's all for this episode of The Procuretech Podcast.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap things up by talking briefly about Dan's World of Procurement podcast, and an exciting upcoming podcast project he's working on with Gatekeeper.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can check that out, connect with Dan, or explore what Gatekeeper has to offer, using the links below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://www.gatekeeperhq.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Gatekeeper</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielbarnesgsd/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Dan on LinkedIn</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">86ee98b8-d191-4bf9-b5af-b21c8a127ff0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f0701d4f-43d8-484b-8494-21e5c75b55a3/Procuretech-20ep-205-20Daniel-20Barnes-20-20Gatekeeper.mp3" length="29553064" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Tech and Remote Workforce Management – Lilia Stoyanov from Transformify</title><itunes:title>Tech and Remote Workforce Management – Lilia Stoyanov from Transformify</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome to another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our third series of conversations with industry leaders, which now releases twice a week.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Tech and Remote Workforce Management – Lilia Stoyanov from Transformify</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is Lilia Stoyanov, someone who truly wears many hats. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's a professor at Ziggurat Business School. She's an independent contributor to Entrepreneur Magazine. And most importantly, she's the CEO of Transformify - a vendor management and payroll management system.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our conversation opens with a brief catch-up on Lilia's background.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia Stoyanov's early career</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia started off in the shared service space, working for Coca Cola where she helped to build a shared service centre. Her role, as either CFO, or – as at Coca Cola – director of procure to pay, involved structuring shared service centres.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The big challenge was that Coca Cola, like so many large enterprises, had a variety of subsidiaries and a confusing tangle of legacy tech. Lilia's job was to decide how to bring all that together, and which PTP system or STP system to implement. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This meant factoring in time, and of course cost. Which at the enterprise level could be huge.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not only the cost of the system. With those types of traditional procure to pay suites, you often need an army of consultants to implement it as well.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then there's training people how to navigate new systems that are very complex. And they shouldn't be.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In the past, it seemed like suites needed to look complex in order to impress buyers with all their functionality.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Now it's the opposite.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Users are demanding simplicity and accessibility. Whether this is the influence of Gen Z entering the workforce, or just users losing patience with outmoded tech, the message is the same: Software needs to be user friendly.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Leaving enterprise to become an entrepreneur</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">This eye for simplicity and user-friendliness was an inspiration for Lilia.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The same could be said for her unique vantage point: Working inside growing companies that are breaching into the enterprise level gave Lilia insights into the process of building a business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It was only a matter of time before she wanted to do it for herself.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Having seen how enterprises function, she could see what the common problems are before she even began. And it's important to know the pitfalls, and also what the market is demanding. Otherwise, you can't bring a product to the market that everyone else needs and is ready to buy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia would absolutely recommend this to budding entrepreneurs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400"> If you're considering such a journey, first of all, how do others do it? How are successful businesses structured? What's the hierarchy? How do you manage teams? How do you respond to change? How do we respond to fast paced growth?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And after that, you'll be ready to do it yourself.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">
How did Lilia's experiences in corporate influence Transformify?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There are two big problems that pretty much every procurement team faces.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One is finding talent in the right places at the right costs. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The other is managing one time vendors, or occasional vendors, and dealing with the bureaucracy and human error that goes into maintaining vendor master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What Lilia's doing now at Transformify tackles both.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But what lessons from the world of corporate inspired the creation of Transformify?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Vendor management is a big one. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Be it regular or one-off vendors, using a traditional approach is very time consuming. It takes a long time to get a vendor into your vendor master data, then a long time again if you need to change their invoice details, etc.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Transformify shifts that responsibility on to vendors themselves. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They have a portal where they can do things like update bank account information. And once it's done, it's done for everyone on all sides.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">After that, Transformify also consolidates payments. It aggregates all payments to thousands of vendors into one. Instead of collecting invoices from thousands of vendors, you get one invoice.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Someone else is automating the entire process. So there’s no need to reconcile payments to invoices, no need to check if those invoices are tax compliant. Nothing. It's a simple, smooth process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Rather than something like a tail spend automation system, what Transformify offers is essentially an integrated platform that enables companies to replace X number of vendors with just one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's a big relief to the finance teams, payment teams, procurement teams and everyone involved.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's usually Finance people who approach Transformify. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Their payments teams struggle with transferring payments, making sure there are no duplicate payments or late payments, handling the resulting tax liabilities…</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's the CFO that oversees all those functions, or the finance director. So it's absolutely not surprising that they're the people screaming “we need something!”.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">People Management and Transformify</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Moving on to the people management side of Lilia's business, and how this relates to the evolution of user-friendly tech, talk turns to the geographically diversified workforce.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're looking at technology that is mobile-first, user-friendly, and enables procurement as a function to allow stakeholders to self serve.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This means that procurement, at least in theory, can work remotely: You're not having to be on site to serve your stakeholders with day to day operational problems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This then enables you to have a much more geographically diversified workforce.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an employer, this means you can take advantage of lower salaries, lower taxes, lower social contributions, and of course, to tap into a wider talent pool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The biggest challenge in procurement is getting practitioners to think outside the box to be a bit more visionary rather than technocratic.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But how does this work, practically?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Firstly, cloud-based solutions are definitely the future here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The reason is simple. It's not only remote working - it's simplicity. Let's say you're on a business trip, and you want to quickly check something before you start negotiations. You need access, and you need access from a completely different location.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're also seeing fewer companies that want to support an app, and also to support desktop. Focusing on both can lead to a confusing user experience, or one version having missing functionalities. So that's another reason for a shift towards cloud-based solutions, and responsive design.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When it comes to hiring people across borders, COVID taught us a lot of lessons.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Even companies that weren't open to hybrid work, or remote work, are now having to open up to it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As a result, more companies are hiring the right people, regardless of their location. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You might have people in various continents in various time zones, and that's absolutely normal now. That's the future, and there isn't any way back.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Managing payments to a globally diverse workforce</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Transformify offers services for both independent contractors and payrolled employees who live overseas.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For one-off overseas contractors, there's what’s called payroll on demand.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Here, Transformify acts as an authorised reseller. It buys the services provided by all those independent contractors, checks their components, documents, whatever else is needed, and then it resells those services to the end customer. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Again, the end customer receives just one invoice.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you want to add someone to your payroll, but they live in Asia, or Africa, for example, they need to have all the same...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome to another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our third series of conversations with industry leaders, which now releases twice a week.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Tech and Remote Workforce Management – Lilia Stoyanov from Transformify</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Today's guest is Lilia Stoyanov, someone who truly wears many hats. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's a professor at Ziggurat Business School. She's an independent contributor to Entrepreneur Magazine. And most importantly, she's the CEO of Transformify - a vendor management and payroll management system.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our conversation opens with a brief catch-up on Lilia's background.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia Stoyanov's early career</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia started off in the shared service space, working for Coca Cola where she helped to build a shared service centre. Her role, as either CFO, or – as at Coca Cola – director of procure to pay, involved structuring shared service centres.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The big challenge was that Coca Cola, like so many large enterprises, had a variety of subsidiaries and a confusing tangle of legacy tech. Lilia's job was to decide how to bring all that together, and which PTP system or STP system to implement. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This meant factoring in time, and of course cost. Which at the enterprise level could be huge.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's not only the cost of the system. With those types of traditional procure to pay suites, you often need an army of consultants to implement it as well.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Then there's training people how to navigate new systems that are very complex. And they shouldn't be.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In the past, it seemed like suites needed to look complex in order to impress buyers with all their functionality.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Now it's the opposite.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Users are demanding simplicity and accessibility. Whether this is the influence of Gen Z entering the workforce, or just users losing patience with outmoded tech, the message is the same: Software needs to be user friendly.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Leaving enterprise to become an entrepreneur</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">This eye for simplicity and user-friendliness was an inspiration for Lilia.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The same could be said for her unique vantage point: Working inside growing companies that are breaching into the enterprise level gave Lilia insights into the process of building a business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It was only a matter of time before she wanted to do it for herself.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Having seen how enterprises function, she could see what the common problems are before she even began. And it's important to know the pitfalls, and also what the market is demanding. Otherwise, you can't bring a product to the market that everyone else needs and is ready to buy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia would absolutely recommend this to budding entrepreneurs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400"> If you're considering such a journey, first of all, how do others do it? How are successful businesses structured? What's the hierarchy? How do you manage teams? How do you respond to change? How do we respond to fast paced growth?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And after that, you'll be ready to do it yourself.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">
How did Lilia's experiences in corporate influence Transformify?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There are two big problems that pretty much every procurement team faces.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One is finding talent in the right places at the right costs. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The other is managing one time vendors, or occasional vendors, and dealing with the bureaucracy and human error that goes into maintaining vendor master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">What Lilia's doing now at Transformify tackles both.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But what lessons from the world of corporate inspired the creation of Transformify?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Vendor management is a big one. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Be it regular or one-off vendors, using a traditional approach is very time consuming. It takes a long time to get a vendor into your vendor master data, then a long time again if you need to change their invoice details, etc.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Transformify shifts that responsibility on to vendors themselves. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They have a portal where they can do things like update bank account information. And once it's done, it's done for everyone on all sides.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">After that, Transformify also consolidates payments. It aggregates all payments to thousands of vendors into one. Instead of collecting invoices from thousands of vendors, you get one invoice.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Someone else is automating the entire process. So there’s no need to reconcile payments to invoices, no need to check if those invoices are tax compliant. Nothing. It's a simple, smooth process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Rather than something like a tail spend automation system, what Transformify offers is essentially an integrated platform that enables companies to replace X number of vendors with just one.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's a big relief to the finance teams, payment teams, procurement teams and everyone involved.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's usually Finance people who approach Transformify. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Their payments teams struggle with transferring payments, making sure there are no duplicate payments or late payments, handling the resulting tax liabilities…</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's the CFO that oversees all those functions, or the finance director. So it's absolutely not surprising that they're the people screaming “we need something!”.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">People Management and Transformify</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Moving on to the people management side of Lilia's business, and how this relates to the evolution of user-friendly tech, talk turns to the geographically diversified workforce.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're looking at technology that is mobile-first, user-friendly, and enables procurement as a function to allow stakeholders to self serve.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This means that procurement, at least in theory, can work remotely: You're not having to be on site to serve your stakeholders with day to day operational problems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This then enables you to have a much more geographically diversified workforce.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an employer, this means you can take advantage of lower salaries, lower taxes, lower social contributions, and of course, to tap into a wider talent pool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The biggest challenge in procurement is getting practitioners to think outside the box to be a bit more visionary rather than technocratic.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But how does this work, practically?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Firstly, cloud-based solutions are definitely the future here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The reason is simple. It's not only remote working - it's simplicity. Let's say you're on a business trip, and you want to quickly check something before you start negotiations. You need access, and you need access from a completely different location.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're also seeing fewer companies that want to support an app, and also to support desktop. Focusing on both can lead to a confusing user experience, or one version having missing functionalities. So that's another reason for a shift towards cloud-based solutions, and responsive design.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When it comes to hiring people across borders, COVID taught us a lot of lessons.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Even companies that weren't open to hybrid work, or remote work, are now having to open up to it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As a result, more companies are hiring the right people, regardless of their location. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You might have people in various continents in various time zones, and that's absolutely normal now. That's the future, and there isn't any way back.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Managing payments to a globally diverse workforce</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Transformify offers services for both independent contractors and payrolled employees who live overseas.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For one-off overseas contractors, there's what’s called payroll on demand.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Here, Transformify acts as an authorised reseller. It buys the services provided by all those independent contractors, checks their components, documents, whatever else is needed, and then it resells those services to the end customer. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Again, the end customer receives just one invoice.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you want to add someone to your payroll, but they live in Asia, or Africa, for example, they need to have all the same benefits as any other tax resident of that particular country.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's why Transformify has a vast network of local partners across the globe, making sure this employee gets everything they're entitled to, wherever in the world they are.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Both contingent workforce (in terms of category spend) and talent acquisition and retention are very relevant in terms of procurement. We're starting to see companies taking that bold leap into hiring outside of their jurisdiction. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But a lot of HR teams don't really understand the options available to them and just say: “No, we're not taking that risk”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's a shame when you see so many positions on LinkedIn going unfilled.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's plenty of talent out there, it just means why you might need to pay a bit more.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Just because your office, or your headquarters or your team is in one jurisdiction doesn't mean all of your employees need to be.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Making procurement sexy</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Acquisition teams almost need to become marketers.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">They need to be able to sell the role. It's not just copy pasting the description from somewhere, you need to make it really relevant.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You need to make it appealing if you want the best talent to apply. And the same is applicable to procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You're selling a product. You're selling a role within your company, and people need to buy into that.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you want the best procurement talent, make it sexy!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We should really get some T-shirts printed with that…</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">
Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia's been a great guest, but that's all we've got time for on this episode of The Procuretech Podcast. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you'd like to connect with Lilia, or get in touch with us here, you can find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you in a few days for the next episode!</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400"> </span></h3>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Check out </span><a href="https://www.transformify.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Transformify</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Connect with </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilia-stoyanov-fcca-41972b14/?originalSubdomain=uk"><span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia on LinkedIn</span></a></li>
 	<li style="font-weight: 400"><span style="font-weight: 400">Follow </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ls_transformify/"><span style="font-weight: 400">Lilia on Instagram</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
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<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our third series of conversations with industry leaders, which now releases twice a week.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement Media through the Years - Jon Hansen from Procurement Insights</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">This episode, we've got a guest who's been talking about procurement for decades. With a long-standing blog and a podcast that goes all the way back to 2009, it's Jon Hansen of Procurement Insights – the original procurement podcaster.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're going to talk about everything that's changed in the world of procurement over the course of Jon's long-standing career.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Jon's career as a long-standing procurement commentator</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon's been in the tech industry for more than 40 years, and procurement for almost as long. This has given him experience both as a practitioner and provider.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of his first business ventures was to start a company with funding from the government. It leveraged algorithms that allowed the Department of National Defence to procure indirect materials for their entire nationwide military installation base. He later moved to doing the same thing for the New York City Transit Authority.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon sold that company in 2000, and that's when he began to shift towards blogging.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He'd already had a lot of media experience from interviews in his role as a company founder. When someone in the media world said “why don't you start a blog?”, his first thought was “what's a blog?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This was around 2007. By 2009, Block Talk Radio was launched in New York City. With guests from the world of business and procurement, it broadcast a deeper understanding of procurement to an entirely new audience, through an entirely new medium.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon jokes that he's always had a face for radio, but he clearly had the talent to match: Some 900 episodes later, the monthly listener base was up to 15,000 a month.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that eventually dovetailed into where Jon is today with Procurement Insights.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Was digital transformation a hot topic back then compared to what it is today?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">While it wasn't called transformation back then, it's interesting that a lot of the same issues were still being talked about 20 or 30 years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of the biggest challenges in the procurement world was that the earlier platforms were ERP based. Procurement personnel and professionals weren't involved in the selection process of that technology. That was a Finance decision.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So there was a great deal of frustration with the majority of ERP implementations. Not that ERP doesn't have a vital role to play. But back then the majority of e-procurement initiatives would fail miserably, costing 10s of millions of dollars.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The emergence of the on demand or SaaS software was exciting. Because that started a shift away from a centralised, monolithic approach to automation, to one that was strategically effective and geared towards the procurement people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The interesting point, as we track this story over the last 10 or 20 years, is the value of human experience. In 2019, a Deloitte CPOE global survey indicated that the majority of CEOs were dissatisfied with the results of their initiative.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Of course, their ERP technology was cumbersome. But ultimately it was the mindset and approach that was at fault. It was how to leverage that technology and implement it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That inspired the move from Procurement being a function of Finance, to being a key strategic player within the enterprise.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And now we've learned that from the pandemic more so than ever before. It's caused organisations and people to look at the technology through a much different lens.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In other words, you don't throw technology at something and expect it to fix everything. You have to have the right people in place. You have to decide on the right technology and understand how to utilise it effectively. You have to adapt the technology to your processes.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology doesn't improve process. Process has to be improved using technology as a tool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, there was a major service organisation, which gave their tax incentives by the number of service calls they could do in a day. The more service calls you did, the better your score, and the better your compensation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">On the other side, though, they wanted to implement a system whereby on-site technicians could go online to order necessary parts on location. One of the biggest problems, however, is that the technology was cumbersome. It didn't save time, because they couldn't make as many calls if they had to stop at each location to wrestle with cumbersome technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So what ended up happening was what's known as sandbagging - where we're there to hold the technology, or hold all the orders until the end of the day.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The problem there is that with indirect materials, especially computer technology, the price in the morning of a particular part may be $100. But by late afternoon, as the geographic time zone of sourcing began to shrink, that price could easily become $800, $900 or $1,000.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The technicians were really doing their job based upon the incentives that were created for them, but in the long run, it drove up the cost of the parts that they needed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So they had to look at the technology and say wait a second, how are we going to be able to make it easier for technicians to leverage the technology?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's why we now see these intuitive, Amazon-like user experiences. That was always the goal – it was just very difficult to get there in the early days.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How do you complement the performance or the requirements of the service technician with the objectives of hitting an SLA but doing it on a cost efficient basis where you were not paying a lot to get these products? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a combination of processes, AND you've got to bring those together and collaborate more effectively.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In many organisations this was tough, because procurement was rarely involved with anything strategic, rarely seen as doing more than simply buying at the lowest cost when needed. And so the biggest change is that the procurement and professionals in supply chain are now seen as the leader, rather than a spectator in digital transformation.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Freeing up procurement professionals, and the future of procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a lot of talk about fully automated P2P 'freeing up procurement professionals' to focus on more value added stuff. But what does this mean for the future of procurement?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The trouble is, when you create all of this freedom to let people become more strategic in their tasks, what exactly does that mean? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For example, with the Department of Defence, they had 21 buyers, 21 people managing contract infrastructure, and it was a large contract. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">Through the automation process,within 18 months, they went from 21 buyers down to three. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So here's the question - what do you do with the other 18?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It depends on how willing and how capable they are to upskill and adapt. If a procurement professional is willing to move with the times and see the writing on the wall, that headcount and within procurement teams won't necessarily be fewer than today. The roles are just going to look very, very different.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a major overhaul happening within the procurement realm.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When we become less functionally driven and more strategically driven, we have to expand to new areas of endeavour.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We have to look at data management, and what we do with that data. Digital transformation is impossible without clean data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And the fact remains that the majority of organisations (according to IDC) only analyse 5% of the data they have. They're flying blind, even with the automation. So who's going to take the lead on that?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We have to look at factors such as cybersecurity, too. A study in Supply Chain Digest found that 53% of all enterprise breaches occurred through a third party partner or vendor.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Who should own those third party vendor relationships? Should it be finance? Should it be procurement? There's a new role there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And there's not really anyone better positioned than procurement professionals to understand how to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome to another episode of The Procuretech Podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're continuing our third series of conversations with industry leaders, which now releases twice a week.</span>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement Media through the Years - Jon Hansen from Procurement Insights</span></h2>
&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">This episode, we've got a guest who's been talking about procurement for decades. With a long-standing blog and a podcast that goes all the way back to 2009, it's Jon Hansen of Procurement Insights – the original procurement podcaster.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're going to talk about everything that's changed in the world of procurement over the course of Jon's long-standing career.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Jon's career as a long-standing procurement commentator</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon's been in the tech industry for more than 40 years, and procurement for almost as long. This has given him experience both as a practitioner and provider.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of his first business ventures was to start a company with funding from the government. It leveraged algorithms that allowed the Department of National Defence to procure indirect materials for their entire nationwide military installation base. He later moved to doing the same thing for the New York City Transit Authority.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon sold that company in 2000, and that's when he began to shift towards blogging.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He'd already had a lot of media experience from interviews in his role as a company founder. When someone in the media world said “why don't you start a blog?”, his first thought was “what's a blog?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This was around 2007. By 2009, Block Talk Radio was launched in New York City. With guests from the world of business and procurement, it broadcast a deeper understanding of procurement to an entirely new audience, through an entirely new medium.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon jokes that he's always had a face for radio, but he clearly had the talent to match: Some 900 episodes later, the monthly listener base was up to 15,000 a month.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that eventually dovetailed into where Jon is today with Procurement Insights.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Was digital transformation a hot topic back then compared to what it is today?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">While it wasn't called transformation back then, it's interesting that a lot of the same issues were still being talked about 20 or 30 years ago.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of the biggest challenges in the procurement world was that the earlier platforms were ERP based. Procurement personnel and professionals weren't involved in the selection process of that technology. That was a Finance decision.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So there was a great deal of frustration with the majority of ERP implementations. Not that ERP doesn't have a vital role to play. But back then the majority of e-procurement initiatives would fail miserably, costing 10s of millions of dollars.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The emergence of the on demand or SaaS software was exciting. Because that started a shift away from a centralised, monolithic approach to automation, to one that was strategically effective and geared towards the procurement people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The interesting point, as we track this story over the last 10 or 20 years, is the value of human experience. In 2019, a Deloitte CPOE global survey indicated that the majority of CEOs were dissatisfied with the results of their initiative.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Of course, their ERP technology was cumbersome. But ultimately it was the mindset and approach that was at fault. It was how to leverage that technology and implement it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That inspired the move from Procurement being a function of Finance, to being a key strategic player within the enterprise.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And now we've learned that from the pandemic more so than ever before. It's caused organisations and people to look at the technology through a much different lens.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In other words, you don't throw technology at something and expect it to fix everything. You have to have the right people in place. You have to decide on the right technology and understand how to utilise it effectively. You have to adapt the technology to your processes.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology doesn't improve process. Process has to be improved using technology as a tool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, there was a major service organisation, which gave their tax incentives by the number of service calls they could do in a day. The more service calls you did, the better your score, and the better your compensation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">On the other side, though, they wanted to implement a system whereby on-site technicians could go online to order necessary parts on location. One of the biggest problems, however, is that the technology was cumbersome. It didn't save time, because they couldn't make as many calls if they had to stop at each location to wrestle with cumbersome technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So what ended up happening was what's known as sandbagging - where we're there to hold the technology, or hold all the orders until the end of the day.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The problem there is that with indirect materials, especially computer technology, the price in the morning of a particular part may be $100. But by late afternoon, as the geographic time zone of sourcing began to shrink, that price could easily become $800, $900 or $1,000.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The technicians were really doing their job based upon the incentives that were created for them, but in the long run, it drove up the cost of the parts that they needed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So they had to look at the technology and say wait a second, how are we going to be able to make it easier for technicians to leverage the technology?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that's why we now see these intuitive, Amazon-like user experiences. That was always the goal – it was just very difficult to get there in the early days.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How do you complement the performance or the requirements of the service technician with the objectives of hitting an SLA but doing it on a cost efficient basis where you were not paying a lot to get these products? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a combination of processes, AND you've got to bring those together and collaborate more effectively.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In many organisations this was tough, because procurement was rarely involved with anything strategic, rarely seen as doing more than simply buying at the lowest cost when needed. And so the biggest change is that the procurement and professionals in supply chain are now seen as the leader, rather than a spectator in digital transformation.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Freeing up procurement professionals, and the future of procurement</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a lot of talk about fully automated P2P 'freeing up procurement professionals' to focus on more value added stuff. But what does this mean for the future of procurement?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The trouble is, when you create all of this freedom to let people become more strategic in their tasks, what exactly does that mean? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For example, with the Department of Defence, they had 21 buyers, 21 people managing contract infrastructure, and it was a large contract. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">Through the automation process,within 18 months, they went from 21 buyers down to three. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So here's the question - what do you do with the other 18?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It depends on how willing and how capable they are to upskill and adapt. If a procurement professional is willing to move with the times and see the writing on the wall, that headcount and within procurement teams won't necessarily be fewer than today. The roles are just going to look very, very different.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a major overhaul happening within the procurement realm.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When we become less functionally driven and more strategically driven, we have to expand to new areas of endeavour.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We have to look at data management, and what we do with that data. Digital transformation is impossible without clean data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And the fact remains that the majority of organisations (according to IDC) only analyse 5% of the data they have. They're flying blind, even with the automation. So who's going to take the lead on that?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We have to look at factors such as cybersecurity, too. A study in Supply Chain Digest found that 53% of all enterprise breaches occurred through a third party partner or vendor.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Who should own those third party vendor relationships? Should it be finance? Should it be procurement? There's a new role there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And there's not really anyone better positioned than procurement professionals to understand how to structure those relationships, how to engage suppliers, how to coordinate that and manage those risks.
</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That extends even into non cyber threat areas: Managing ESG objectives and goals, for example.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You've got to choose the right suppliers, you've got to build the right infrastructure. So we have become strategic and view our role beyond the traditional limitations of getting something at the best price as fast as we can.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The value of internal marketing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">As aspects of traditional procurement are automated and phased out, we'll have to spend more time communicating. W</span>ith suppliers,  but also within our own organisations.

<span style="font-weight: 400">Procurement as a function, historically, has been dreadful at internal marketing and communication. Compared to sales or environmental health and safety, when it comes to communicating their message, procurement has a long way to go.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you do a survey on LinkedIn, and say: “Procurement pros, do you think it's harder to negotiate with external suppliers or to convince stakeholders to implement your initiatives?” 9 times out of 10, they'll always say negotiating internally is harder.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We have to do a better job of selling our own identity. And thus that positions us to take the lead in these new strategic arenas - like cybersecurity, like data management, like all of these other aspects of it. We can no longer be spectators. We've got to be able to make sure that people are coming into the profession for the right reason with the right understanding. It begins with us.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon shares the story of a procurement professional who once approached him <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/procurement-conferences-2024/">at a conference</a>. He said he was ready to go to his company the next morning all motivated, full of new ideas, and they're going to say: “No. That's not your role”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That professional asked Jon what he should do, and Jon said - you find another company. That may seem like a smart remark, but there's truth to it. Companies have to embrace change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology doesn't repair the challenges that we're running into now, because the challenges reside in how organisations define and recognize the importance of procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And that not only starts at where we are as professionals, but also starts at the top of the organisation in the highest levels. Companies need to provide the right incentives, guidance and motivation to expand the scope of procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Organisations that do that will ultimately be more successful than those that continue to operate within the confines of what we were in the past.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Jon is such a fountain of knowledge that we really could have spoken all day, but sadly that's all we have time for.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you want to reach out to Jon, or to us here at The Procuretech Podcast, you'll find all the links you need below.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you in a few days for the next episode.</span>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
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 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jwhansen/?originalSubdomain=ca">Jon on LinkedIn</a></li>
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<span style="font-weight: 400"> We're continuing our  third series of interviews with industry experts and thought leaders.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're talking to someone with a unique niche perspective, to hear their thoughts on all things digital procurement.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Why Data is the Bedrock of Digital - Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest needs absolutely no introduction to most of you: Susan Walls, the classification, Guru herself.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan was one of our first guests in series one, all the way back in April 2020. A lot has changed in the world since then, but before we dive into that, let's get a quick reminder of Susan's background.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Susan Walsh – A brief background on the Classification Guru</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan has been running The Classification Guru for just over five years now. She started working for a spend analytics company, before deciding to go it alone.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thought there must be companies out there who just want their data classified and normalised, without the analytics part. And she was right.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Spend analytics is being increasingly brought in-house – most departments have some kind of analyst now. But people still struggle with classification.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's where Susan comes in, bringing a human touch and years of experience to classification.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The Classification Guru can help with things like supplier cleansing for PT implementations and CRM systems. Susan is also currently working on an exciting project outside of the procurement space for retail category management.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Basically, if you've got a data problem, Susan can help with it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because Susan's service isn't a tech solution, it's not the sort of thing we'd usually cover here on procurementsoftware.site. But Susan's niche is a really interesting perspective from which to view procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So how has her business been impacted by the rise of procurement technology over the last few years?</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The impact of procurement and technology</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thinks that the expansion of procurement tech has helped her business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are so many solutions saying “buy our software, it'll fix your data”. But the reality is, you have to clean that data before a tool can do anything with it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People are realising the importance of data, but at the same time they don't have the know how to manage it. They don't fully understand the tools they're using. There's an assumption that this process will be 100% automated, but that's often not the case.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's so important to get it right, and clean the data before you automate it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are hybrid solutions out there. These either offer consultancy alongside automation, but are usually more focused on enterprise level complex material master data more than vendor master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are also solutions that use AI to scrape, clean and sort the data - Tealbook and Scoutbee for example. But they're not classifying data, they're essentially just supplier discovery platforms that can help to categorise data as part of that offering.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But where's that data coming from? How do you know it's valid? Is there a human behind it?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You should always have someone who knows the industry double check data. Verify whatever you're buying in with what you know, just to make sure it's right.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation can be successful and accurate when you focus on a specific area. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">But if you're buying a tool that tries to cover every single industry in the world, it's not going to hit the mark as well, because it's trying to be everything to everyone.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Bigger data, bigger problem</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Generally, the bigger the organisation, the bigger the dirty data problem.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because they've grown through acquisition, big companies often have multiple ERP systems. That can very easily lead to a real tangle of complicated data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But mid market businesses also have an issue here. Their data is not going to be as dirty as an enterprise company that's grown through acquisition over the years, but a smaller company might not have the in-house expertise to clean it's data effectively.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Data can be real trouble, and not everyone knows where to start. When Susan hears that a company is going to try and do it in house, it gives her shivers because she knows The Categorisation Guru could do it quicker, more efficiently and accurately.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In-house, it could take something like 6-12 months. The Categorisation Guru could get it done in two or three.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What area of procurement has the biggest impact, from a data perspective?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan sees so much going on in this space right now that it's hard to call out one specific thing. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she's interested in the advancements in P2P and fraud prevention tech: The kind which scans invoices to minimise things like fraud, or paying the same invoice twice because it's named slightly differently.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The biggest data problems start with people. So if you can remove the points where there are most likely to be errors caused by people, then that's great.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For smaller businesses that haven't even started with any sort of digital transformation yet, having something like a process automation bot in AP can be really valuable. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Just getting a company to build a bot for you to automate or simplify some of the most repetitive tasks can be a game changer: It's efficiencies, its accuracy, it's helping to minimise fraud. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Especially if you're a small business, the impact of fraud or paying an invoice twice is so much more devastating than in a larger organisation where this can be absorbed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But again, you always just need someone who is knowledgeable in the area, overseeing everything and checking that it's still working.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Using digital technology to liberate your talent</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Digital technology is a means to enable procurement professionals to do what they should be doing. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a topic we keep coming back to – the real value in this tech is that it frees up expensive, valuable knowledge workers to be able to do something more relevant to their profession and skillset.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Often, Procurement don't do a very good job of promoting themselves and the value that they bring. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you free up their valuable time, they can then focus on the more strategic effort. Whether that's cost efficiencies, rational, rationalising suppliers, negotiating better deals with existing suppliers, finding new ones...</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation allows procurement to focus more on these things, which in turn will benefit the business.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's still a lot of manual intervention going on in the whole procurement process from contracting to managing suppliers to spend analytics. Which means that it's prone to errors, mistakes, fraud, etc.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you can automate as much of that as possible, you're minimising all those things, and hopefully increasing profits for the company.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Future Proofing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">As a small business owner, one of the things that you have to be very mindful of is future proofing. One of Susan's key USPS is doing a lot of manual work to maintain data accuracy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But with tech getting smarter, at some point there will be a spend analytics platform that can get 95% of the job done using AI and machine learning.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Without giving away too many trade secrets, what is Susan doing to future proof her business?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thinks that, even if such a solution comes out in the near future, it's not going to be affordable to anyone but very large organisations. So the need for human input isn't going away any time soon.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she's not sitting on her laurels. Susan also wrote a book last year, where she shares a lot of her knowledge on classifying and fixing dirty data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's also working on online courses through which to share her unique perspective and experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some will be generic data cleaning courses, and others will be procurement...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">Welcome back to the Procuretech podcast!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400"> We're continuing our  third series of interviews with industry experts and thought leaders.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Today we're talking to someone with a unique niche perspective, to hear their thoughts on all things digital procurement.</span>

&nbsp;
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400">Why Data is the Bedrock of Digital - Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru</span></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest needs absolutely no introduction to most of you: Susan Walls, the classification, Guru herself.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan was one of our first guests in series one, all the way back in April 2020. A lot has changed in the world since then, but before we dive into that, let's get a quick reminder of Susan's background.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Susan Walsh – A brief background on the Classification Guru</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan has been running The Classification Guru for just over five years now. She started working for a spend analytics company, before deciding to go it alone.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thought there must be companies out there who just want their data classified and normalised, without the analytics part. And she was right.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Spend analytics is being increasingly brought in-house – most departments have some kind of analyst now. But people still struggle with classification.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's where Susan comes in, bringing a human touch and years of experience to classification.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The Classification Guru can help with things like supplier cleansing for PT implementations and CRM systems. Susan is also currently working on an exciting project outside of the procurement space for retail category management.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Basically, if you've got a data problem, Susan can help with it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because Susan's service isn't a tech solution, it's not the sort of thing we'd usually cover here on procurementsoftware.site. But Susan's niche is a really interesting perspective from which to view procurement.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So how has her business been impacted by the rise of procurement technology over the last few years?</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">The impact of procurement and technology</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thinks that the expansion of procurement tech has helped her business. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are so many solutions saying “buy our software, it'll fix your data”. But the reality is, you have to clean that data before a tool can do anything with it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People are realising the importance of data, but at the same time they don't have the know how to manage it. They don't fully understand the tools they're using. There's an assumption that this process will be 100% automated, but that's often not the case.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's so important to get it right, and clean the data before you automate it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are hybrid solutions out there. These either offer consultancy alongside automation, but are usually more focused on enterprise level complex material master data more than vendor master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are also solutions that use AI to scrape, clean and sort the data - Tealbook and Scoutbee for example. But they're not classifying data, they're essentially just supplier discovery platforms that can help to categorise data as part of that offering.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But where's that data coming from? How do you know it's valid? Is there a human behind it?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You should always have someone who knows the industry double check data. Verify whatever you're buying in with what you know, just to make sure it's right.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation can be successful and accurate when you focus on a specific area. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">But if you're buying a tool that tries to cover every single industry in the world, it's not going to hit the mark as well, because it's trying to be everything to everyone.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Bigger data, bigger problem</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Generally, the bigger the organisation, the bigger the dirty data problem.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Because they've grown through acquisition, big companies often have multiple ERP systems. That can very easily lead to a real tangle of complicated data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But mid market businesses also have an issue here. Their data is not going to be as dirty as an enterprise company that's grown through acquisition over the years, but a smaller company might not have the in-house expertise to clean it's data effectively.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Data can be real trouble, and not everyone knows where to start. When Susan hears that a company is going to try and do it in house, it gives her shivers because she knows The Categorisation Guru could do it quicker, more efficiently and accurately.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In-house, it could take something like 6-12 months. The Categorisation Guru could get it done in two or three.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">What area of procurement has the biggest impact, from a data perspective?</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan sees so much going on in this space right now that it's hard to call out one specific thing. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she's interested in the advancements in P2P and fraud prevention tech: The kind which scans invoices to minimise things like fraud, or paying the same invoice twice because it's named slightly differently.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The biggest data problems start with people. So if you can remove the points where there are most likely to be errors caused by people, then that's great.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For smaller businesses that haven't even started with any sort of digital transformation yet, having something like a process automation bot in AP can be really valuable. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Just getting a company to build a bot for you to automate or simplify some of the most repetitive tasks can be a game changer: It's efficiencies, its accuracy, it's helping to minimise fraud. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Especially if you're a small business, the impact of fraud or paying an invoice twice is so much more devastating than in a larger organisation where this can be absorbed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But again, you always just need someone who is knowledgeable in the area, overseeing everything and checking that it's still working.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Using digital technology to liberate your talent</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Digital technology is a means to enable procurement professionals to do what they should be doing. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a topic we keep coming back to – the real value in this tech is that it frees up expensive, valuable knowledge workers to be able to do something more relevant to their profession and skillset.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Often, Procurement don't do a very good job of promoting themselves and the value that they bring. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you free up their valuable time, they can then focus on the more strategic effort. Whether that's cost efficiencies, rational, rationalising suppliers, negotiating better deals with existing suppliers, finding new ones...</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Automation allows procurement to focus more on these things, which in turn will benefit the business.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's still a lot of manual intervention going on in the whole procurement process from contracting to managing suppliers to spend analytics. Which means that it's prone to errors, mistakes, fraud, etc.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you can automate as much of that as possible, you're minimising all those things, and hopefully increasing profits for the company.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Future Proofing</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">As a small business owner, one of the things that you have to be very mindful of is future proofing. One of Susan's key USPS is doing a lot of manual work to maintain data accuracy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But with tech getting smarter, at some point there will be a spend analytics platform that can get 95% of the job done using AI and machine learning.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Without giving away too many trade secrets, what is Susan doing to future proof her business?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Susan thinks that, even if such a solution comes out in the near future, it's not going to be affordable to anyone but very large organisations. So the need for human input isn't going away any time soon.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she's not sitting on her laurels. Susan also wrote a book last year, where she shares a lot of her knowledge on classifying and fixing dirty data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">She's also working on online courses through which to share her unique perspective and experience.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Some will be generic data cleaning courses, and others will be procurement specific.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Her next plan is to build an actual product. A SaaS tool that she thinks is going to blow up massively, and that could create jobs as well.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But she's not going to give away any more clues on that one, for now…</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Wrapping Up</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">If you want to get in touch with Susan Marsh, The Classification Guru, you can find her on LinkedIn, YouTube, or her website.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You'll find links to these, and to Susan's exciting new book, below.</span>
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Buy Susan's book, <a href="http://Stay in touch Connect with Grant on LinkedIn Vist Elcom’s website Visit ProcurementSoftware.site Sign up for the Procurement Software Newsletter Book an Intro Call and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement! Connect with James on LinkedIn Follow Procurement Software’s LinkedIn Page">Between The Spreadsheets</a></li>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Visit <a href="https://www.theclassificationguru.com/">The Classification Guru website</a></li>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Follow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/theclassificationguru/">The Classification Guru on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Check out <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfrWRbL-zeEZsHwjYhj3v_A/videos?view=0&amp;sort=da">Susan's YouTube channel</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d2281665-6c53-40e2-a0ea-5d1d4cb4e338</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fc225d00-730c-4641-901b-3767e13eea43/Procuretech-20ep-202-20Susan-20Walsh-20-20The-20Classification-.mp3" length="20846974" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement and Finance: Natural Allies? – Chris Argent from GenerationCFO</title><itunes:title>Procurement and Finance: Natural Allies? – Chris Argent from GenerationCFO</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Welcome back to series 3 of the Procuretech Podcast!</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We bring you the hottest startups, thought leadership and conversation from visionary industry experts, and definitely no stiff corporate content.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We’re switching things up a bit for the new series. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We’ll now be releasing episodes twice weekly, and expanding our scope on guests. In the past we’d typically speak to startup founders, CEOs or CMOs of procurement tech companies. But we're now going to be talking to industry leaders and influencers in this space too. We’ll bring you their thoughts, opinions and projections around digital transformation of procurement. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">So without any more delay, let’s jump into this episode’s conversation with a guest from the finance community: Chris Argent, of GenerationCFO.</span></span></span>

&nbsp;
<h2 class="western">Procurement and Finance: Natural Allies? – Chris Argent from GenerationCFO</h2>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Finance and procurement are often sparring partners, but it doesn’t need to be that way. Chris and I recently met a P2P transformation conference in London, where the message was that procurement and finance are really natural allies.</span></span></span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">Chris’s 20+ year journey in finance </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Chris’s journey began as a financial controller and finance director in small to medium sized organisations. There was a key moment when he stumbled across a fraud that had been committed due to poor systems and poor technology. This inspired Chris to enter the finance transformation arena. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">There, he was lucky enough to work with some big players including John Lewis, Amazon and Vodafone. This opened his eyes to shared services and procurement technology. Chris became more tech savvy, and saw the future of what we now know as digital procurement on the horizon. But this was maybe 15 or 20 years ago, and the people around him didn’t understand all this new technology. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">This need to educate people was the birth of GenerationCFO. It all began as a LinkedIn group. And now, some 19 years later, GenerationCFO has a reach of about 100,000 people who all gather regularly to talk about these transformation issues.</span></span></span>

This community is predominantly UK-focused, but there are members all over the world - from Europe to the US and Asia.
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">An experienced perspective on finance transformation</span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Chris shares some observations from his long-standing career in this space. What have the main trends been over his time in the industry? And where do procurement tech and FinTech crossover?</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">There’s always been an acknowledgement that technology could be used for the better. In a way, this sprang the shared service environment. Back then, you’d get conversations about the cost of labour: “We can save 20% if we move everything to India”, and so on. But that’s not the case any more. The savings in that area are negligible. What we need to do now is to understand technology and optimise on that. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Technology is important, especially with things like ESG now coming down the track, and the need for increased responsibility and transparency. A siloed approach doesn’t work any more. Procurement teams are thinking about solving business problems, CFO’s feel responsible for managing ESG risks. There’s loads of crossover there - procurement can’t ignore finance and finance can’t ignore procurement. </span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">What are the challenges in communication between procurement and finance? </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Procurement professionals often struggle to get finance to recognise their wider value. There will always be ‘invisible’ work being done by procurement, below the surface of the value iceberg.  And hopefully technology can lead us to a more centralised, collaborative form of project management, where everyone’s contributions can be factored in. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">And it’s not just technology - Chris suggests that there are three key factors when it comes to transforming collaboration and project management. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The first is technology, which definitely shines a light on all the invisible work that gets done. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The second is people: People need to communicate, and people need to be open to communication. If you don’t have a finance business partner to talk to, then you need one. You need to ask your CFO or finance directory for that person. It’s their responsibility to represent you, and without that representation it’s very hard to communicate properly. </span></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">A collaboration-first, business partnering approach is critical to solving the problem here. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The third, and this a weird thing to say, but the third is a pandemic.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The last pandemic changed the mindset overnight of: How we view our processes, how we view our roles within the business, what's really important. All of a sudden, we got a lot of airtime within the business. It was no longer about sales and revenue and growth, it was about survival. That survival mindset really opened businesses up to examining their processes.</span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">Technology and People </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Technology is going to change the way we do business, it's going to change the way we maintain high performance within our teams. But Chris also thinks that the people element shouldn’t be underestimated. Having worked in change programs, technology and people are equally important. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">But the the learning journey, and the time to value is on the technology side. We’re seeing this in procurement, and Chris is having exactly the same conversation on the accounting and finance side, where generation Z (or even generation A, whatever the next one is) - they don't think of technology in the way we do. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">People are, in general, still very change resistant. And this can be a big problem when rolling out these platforms. The obvious stinker is if you choose a really clunky piece of software that both suppliers and stakeholders hate using. And there's a big famous name that I think we can all think of that is notoriously not very user friendly. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">But you can get any technology successfully adopted with the right change management process. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We need to be creating a community of people who are coming together around these transformations, these changes, and making tiny changes, incremental changes. People on the ground within companies who are trying to adopt this technology need to be improving a little every day, so they become their own internal consultants. So their internal intrapreneurs as they call them, rather than entrepreneurs. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We don't have enough visionaries in procurement. And we have too many technocrats. And that is hamstringing our profession.</span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Welcome back to series 3 of the Procuretech Podcast!</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We bring you the hottest startups, thought leadership and conversation from visionary industry experts, and definitely no stiff corporate content.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We’re switching things up a bit for the new series. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We’ll now be releasing episodes twice weekly, and expanding our scope on guests. In the past we’d typically speak to startup founders, CEOs or CMOs of procurement tech companies. But we're now going to be talking to industry leaders and influencers in this space too. We’ll bring you their thoughts, opinions and projections around digital transformation of procurement. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">So without any more delay, let’s jump into this episode’s conversation with a guest from the finance community: Chris Argent, of GenerationCFO.</span></span></span>

&nbsp;
<h2 class="western">Procurement and Finance: Natural Allies? – Chris Argent from GenerationCFO</h2>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Finance and procurement are often sparring partners, but it doesn’t need to be that way. Chris and I recently met a P2P transformation conference in London, where the message was that procurement and finance are really natural allies.</span></span></span>

&nbsp;
<h3><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">Chris’s 20+ year journey in finance </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Chris’s journey began as a financial controller and finance director in small to medium sized organisations. There was a key moment when he stumbled across a fraud that had been committed due to poor systems and poor technology. This inspired Chris to enter the finance transformation arena. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">There, he was lucky enough to work with some big players including John Lewis, Amazon and Vodafone. This opened his eyes to shared services and procurement technology. Chris became more tech savvy, and saw the future of what we now know as digital procurement on the horizon. But this was maybe 15 or 20 years ago, and the people around him didn’t understand all this new technology. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">This need to educate people was the birth of GenerationCFO. It all began as a LinkedIn group. And now, some 19 years later, GenerationCFO has a reach of about 100,000 people who all gather regularly to talk about these transformation issues.</span></span></span>

This community is predominantly UK-focused, but there are members all over the world - from Europe to the US and Asia.
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">An experienced perspective on finance transformation</span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Chris shares some observations from his long-standing career in this space. What have the main trends been over his time in the industry? And where do procurement tech and FinTech crossover?</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">There’s always been an acknowledgement that technology could be used for the better. In a way, this sprang the shared service environment. Back then, you’d get conversations about the cost of labour: “We can save 20% if we move everything to India”, and so on. But that’s not the case any more. The savings in that area are negligible. What we need to do now is to understand technology and optimise on that. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Technology is important, especially with things like ESG now coming down the track, and the need for increased responsibility and transparency. A siloed approach doesn’t work any more. Procurement teams are thinking about solving business problems, CFO’s feel responsible for managing ESG risks. There’s loads of crossover there - procurement can’t ignore finance and finance can’t ignore procurement. </span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">What are the challenges in communication between procurement and finance? </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Procurement professionals often struggle to get finance to recognise their wider value. There will always be ‘invisible’ work being done by procurement, below the surface of the value iceberg.  And hopefully technology can lead us to a more centralised, collaborative form of project management, where everyone’s contributions can be factored in. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">And it’s not just technology - Chris suggests that there are three key factors when it comes to transforming collaboration and project management. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The first is technology, which definitely shines a light on all the invisible work that gets done. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The second is people: People need to communicate, and people need to be open to communication. If you don’t have a finance business partner to talk to, then you need one. You need to ask your CFO or finance directory for that person. It’s their responsibility to represent you, and without that representation it’s very hard to communicate properly. </span></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">A collaboration-first, business partnering approach is critical to solving the problem here. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The third, and this a weird thing to say, but the third is a pandemic.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The last pandemic changed the mindset overnight of: How we view our processes, how we view our roles within the business, what's really important. All of a sudden, we got a lot of airtime within the business. It was no longer about sales and revenue and growth, it was about survival. That survival mindset really opened businesses up to examining their processes.</span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">Technology and People </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Technology is going to change the way we do business, it's going to change the way we maintain high performance within our teams. But Chris also thinks that the people element shouldn’t be underestimated. Having worked in change programs, technology and people are equally important. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">But the the learning journey, and the time to value is on the technology side. We’re seeing this in procurement, and Chris is having exactly the same conversation on the accounting and finance side, where generation Z (or even generation A, whatever the next one is) - they don't think of technology in the way we do. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">People are, in general, still very change resistant. And this can be a big problem when rolling out these platforms. The obvious stinker is if you choose a really clunky piece of software that both suppliers and stakeholders hate using. And there's a big famous name that I think we can all think of that is notoriously not very user friendly. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">But you can get any technology successfully adopted with the right change management process. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We need to be creating a community of people who are coming together around these transformations, these changes, and making tiny changes, incremental changes. People on the ground within companies who are trying to adopt this technology need to be improving a little every day, so they become their own internal consultants. So their internal intrapreneurs as they call them, rather than entrepreneurs. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">We don't have enough visionaries in procurement. And we have too many technocrats. And that is hamstringing our profession.</span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">An international perspective</span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Chris’s access to a global network of finance professionals gives him a unique vantage point. Does he see much difference geographically, in terms of maturity of digitization? </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">The UK is steeped in professional history. And you know, procurement is quite a new profession compared to accounting, that's been going 200 odd years. So we've got 200 years of historic mindset that we're trying to change. It's a conservative way of approaching these things. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Europe is somewhere more committee based, but they are quicker to move. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">In the US it’s very much “let's do this! Let's make a change!”. There are shorter decision cycles on buying some of this technology. Maybe it's just because of the number of people in the US who aren't necessarily qualified in those senior positions. They're democratising a lot of the conversation. They're using social media and channels, they want to be seen, to get their message out there. There's a lot less of that going on in the EU and the UK. </span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">In the US, if you have a tech/ social media savvy CFO they're called Rockstar CFOs? They're called out as these amazing people.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">If you did this in the UK  the board might want to sack you for misconduct, </span></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">especially if you’re a rock star! You wouldn't want a CFO coming into work on coke after two bottles of whiskey.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Well, if Elon Musk can do it, why not? </span></span></span>

&nbsp;
<h3 class="western"><span style="color: #434343"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: large">Wrapping up and final thoughts </span></span></span></h3>
<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">Reflecting on our time at P2P Transformation in June, Chris and I both agree that there’s huge value to getting out of your echo chamber and talking to other professionals. Communication is a huge part of what we do, and there’s little to be gained from navel gazing. Otherwise you’ll never understand where the other side of the table is coming from.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">As well as his website GenerationCFO, Chris is a self-confessed LinkedIn junkie and a YouTube content creator.</span></span></span>

<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Arial"><span style="font-size: medium">If you want to get in touch with him, you’ll find all the links you need below.</span></span></span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with Chris on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherargent/?originalSubdomain=uk">LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Check out <a href="https://generationcfo.com/">GenerationCFO</a></li>
 	<li>Find GenerationCFO on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBJsOF5lleghGuBc51kJFaw/videos?view=0&amp;sort=p">Youtube</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
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This week we're bringing you 10 new startups for the price of one!
<h2><b>10 cool early stage European startups from Procurement Summit</b></h2>
I recently attended Procurement Summit in Hamburg. It's a fun, pleasingly non-corporate showcase for new companies in the digital procurement space. Where else would you find a Mario Kart competition at a procurement conference?

I saw loads of exciting new ideas there, and I'd like to share ten of the best new startups that caught my eye during the conference's pitch event.
<h3><b>1. Flowciety</b></h3>
Flowciety won the startup pitch event this year, and with good reason.

They're a Berlin-based startup, all about data exchange and process automation, across both internal departments and external third parties.

This automation enables you to have a fully auditable trail, avoiding PDFs and emails in favour of realtime tracking. It also enables you to manage supply chain and inventory across, for example, a subcontracted part of an external process.

<a href="https://flowciety.de/">Link to Flowciety website</a>
<h3><b>2. Shouldcosting</b></h3>
This Swiss-based startup aims to make companies more competitive by using their internal data more effectively. This is a really smart calculation tool that takes things from the bottom up.

It's a data driven engine that estimates product prices based on CAD drawings, specifications and materials. It estimates the cost of raw materials and of cost changes per part, based on engineering changes during the new product development process, or on commodity price movements in our increasingly volatile world.

It also calculates labour costs and provides advanced analytics and material grouping.

<a href="https://www.shouldcosting.com/en/">Link to Shouldcosting website</a>
<h3><b>3. Hivebuy</b></h3>
Hivebuy is a source to contract solution, strongly focused on process optimisation for small to medium sized businesses.

The solution supports companies in budgeting, requesting and ordering services for their business. It also establishes better purchasing conditions for your business, through pooling of pricing on popular catalogues.

Obviously this is quite market-dependant, and the company has a strong focus on Germany at the moment, but I'm told that they are looking to expand this scope.

The software relies an intuitively designed approval process that link departments with a simple communication flow and approvals process.

Control features offer a transparent dashboard for budget management per department. Hivebuy also offers supplier catalogues both externally and internally, along with contract management and repository as part of their more top end plans.

It's a unique spin in a crowded niche, which I find very interesting.

<a href="https://hivebuy.com/en/">Link to Hivebuy website</a>
<h3><b>4. TrueLedger</b></h3>
This startup from Zurich is a professional services platform focused on external workforce. According to their presentation, 30% of human capital is now external contractors, and this represents 42% of a company's spend on people, on average.

As opposed to other external workforce platforms that focus on audit and legal compliance, these guys are very much focused on smart contracting as a way to reduce costs.

TrueLedger offers many forms of control here: Time and materials contracts, cost ceilings, standard contracts, and risk sharing, across both blue collar and white collar. All of which flows through to automatic invoicing and ERP integration.

<a href="https://www.trueledger.net/">Link to TrueLedger website</a>
<h3>5. Lhotse Analyitcs</h3>
Lhotse are very much focused on industrial manufacturing companies, from the midmarket to enterprise. Because these are often low margin industries, it's crucial to have better data that creates measurable value.

They claim that their software can produce 7.5% savings on average to their customers, using market intelligence and cost breakdowns to offer the best leverage possible.

Especially in industrial manufacturing companies, the supplier's sales person is often the better informed party during negotiations. This solution aims to change that by arming businesses with better data and 360 spend analytics.

<a href="https://lhotse-analytics.com/">Link to Lhotse Analytics website</a>
<h3>6. Procuros</h3>
Procuros, based in Hamburg, automates B2B transactions. It acts as one-to-all middleware between ERP systems and the end user. This turns manual ERP processes into digital workflows with a user friendly interface.

Procuros enables automatic data exchange from ERP system, via a self-serve interface for buyer and stakeholder alike. This, according to them, makes requesting and onboarding suppliers as easy as sending someone a facebook friend request.

<a href="https://procuros.io/">Link to Procuros website</a>
<h3>7. Matchory</h3>
This German startup offers a supplier scouting tool which is simple and  effective. It brings unstructured, decentralised and diverse supplier information into a harmonised supplier search.

It does this three ways. With a web scraper that searches for supplier data, by accessing publicly accessible data and through an API that talks to other systems, extracts data, and enriches it.

This data is then cleansed using ML and AI. T

Matchory claim that it only takes five minutes to find the right supplier through their platform, so this is great for anyone who's new to their category or doesn't already have a large database of potential suppliers.

<a href="https://matchory.com/">Link to Matchory website</a>
<h3>8. PAXLY</h3>
Paxly is another German startup with a very niche focus on packaging spend. Their solution helps with sourcing, selection and evaluation of bids in the packaging category. It's hard to source packaging in a standard invoicing platform, so what PAXLY aims to do is create a simple channel that's custom-tuned to the needs of packaging procurement.

<a href="https://www.paxly.eu/">Link to PAXLY website</a>
<h3>9. Tacto</h3>
Based in Munich, Tacto offer an end-to-end source-to-contract and analytics portal for direct manufacturing business, especially medium sized ones.

The focus here is on creating an intelligent procurement operating system that easily identifies opportunities and realises them within the platform - covering everything from sourcing, RFX, ajd operational purchasing ato analytics, as well as offering a supplier and vendor portal.

Their USP is being plug and play, with no high level consulting or ERP integration required to get the most out of the platform.

<a href="https://www.tacto.ai/">Link to Tacto website</a>
<h3>10. Negotiation Intelligence</h3>
Another Swiss startup, this might be the one that I found most intriguing. A completely new concept, Negotiation Intelligence combines tech with human experience.

It tackles the challenge of negotiation training. I'm sure we've all been on this kind of training, forgot most of what we were told and pushed the handout into a drawer to never be looked at again. And fair enough - the static classroom environment doesn't always translate to the real world.

Negotiation Intelligence aims to solve that by using an AI-driven core engine that gives live training, with built-in negotiation roleplays that gamify the training experience. On top of that, there's an ongoing toolkit for subscribers to improve their negotiation skills. Negotiation Intelligence combines the power of speech recognition, advanced data analytics, and human-delivered coaching for a truly hybrid approach.

One of the things I found most interesting here was that you can then host internal league tables within an organisation so you can see who your strongest negotiators are. Not only fostering a competitive attitude, but allowing you to see where your human resources will be best spent.

<a href="https://negotiationintelligence.com/">Link to Negotiation Intelligence website</a>
<h3><b>Wrapping up Series 2</b></h3>
With that, we've reached the end of Series 2.

And I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for listening to this series of the podcast.

I'm really honoured and humbled that we've been able to double our average number of monthly listeners this season, and I can't thank you all enough for that.

I hope you're just as excited as I am about what we've got coming up in the future, on procurementsoftware.site as a whole, and on this podcast, which comes back for Series 3 in September this year.

Until then, we hope you have a great summer!

There's plenty more to come in the future, and I look forward to seeing there.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit ProcurementSoftware.site</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rev="en_rl_none">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rev="en_rl_none">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/37782359/" rev="en_rl_none">Follow Procurement Software’s LinkedIn Page</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<h3><strong>
Find today's featured startups on LinkedIn and beyond!</strong></h3>
<ol>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/flowciety/about/">Flowciety</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/shouldcosting-gmbh/">Shouldcosting</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hivebuy/">Hivebuy</a></li>
 	<li><a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[It's the final episode of our second series. So to finish up, we're going to be doing something a little bit different.

This week we're bringing you 10 new startups for the price of one!
<h2><b>10 cool early stage European startups from Procurement Summit</b></h2>
I recently attended Procurement Summit in Hamburg. It's a fun, pleasingly non-corporate showcase for new companies in the digital procurement space. Where else would you find a Mario Kart competition at a procurement conference?

I saw loads of exciting new ideas there, and I'd like to share ten of the best new startups that caught my eye during the conference's pitch event.
<h3><b>1. Flowciety</b></h3>
Flowciety won the startup pitch event this year, and with good reason.

They're a Berlin-based startup, all about data exchange and process automation, across both internal departments and external third parties.

This automation enables you to have a fully auditable trail, avoiding PDFs and emails in favour of realtime tracking. It also enables you to manage supply chain and inventory across, for example, a subcontracted part of an external process.

<a href="https://flowciety.de/">Link to Flowciety website</a>
<h3><b>2. Shouldcosting</b></h3>
This Swiss-based startup aims to make companies more competitive by using their internal data more effectively. This is a really smart calculation tool that takes things from the bottom up.

It's a data driven engine that estimates product prices based on CAD drawings, specifications and materials. It estimates the cost of raw materials and of cost changes per part, based on engineering changes during the new product development process, or on commodity price movements in our increasingly volatile world.

It also calculates labour costs and provides advanced analytics and material grouping.

<a href="https://www.shouldcosting.com/en/">Link to Shouldcosting website</a>
<h3><b>3. Hivebuy</b></h3>
Hivebuy is a source to contract solution, strongly focused on process optimisation for small to medium sized businesses.

The solution supports companies in budgeting, requesting and ordering services for their business. It also establishes better purchasing conditions for your business, through pooling of pricing on popular catalogues.

Obviously this is quite market-dependant, and the company has a strong focus on Germany at the moment, but I'm told that they are looking to expand this scope.

The software relies an intuitively designed approval process that link departments with a simple communication flow and approvals process.

Control features offer a transparent dashboard for budget management per department. Hivebuy also offers supplier catalogues both externally and internally, along with contract management and repository as part of their more top end plans.

It's a unique spin in a crowded niche, which I find very interesting.

<a href="https://hivebuy.com/en/">Link to Hivebuy website</a>
<h3><b>4. TrueLedger</b></h3>
This startup from Zurich is a professional services platform focused on external workforce. According to their presentation, 30% of human capital is now external contractors, and this represents 42% of a company's spend on people, on average.

As opposed to other external workforce platforms that focus on audit and legal compliance, these guys are very much focused on smart contracting as a way to reduce costs.

TrueLedger offers many forms of control here: Time and materials contracts, cost ceilings, standard contracts, and risk sharing, across both blue collar and white collar. All of which flows through to automatic invoicing and ERP integration.

<a href="https://www.trueledger.net/">Link to TrueLedger website</a>
<h3>5. Lhotse Analyitcs</h3>
Lhotse are very much focused on industrial manufacturing companies, from the midmarket to enterprise. Because these are often low margin industries, it's crucial to have better data that creates measurable value.

They claim that their software can produce 7.5% savings on average to their customers, using market intelligence and cost breakdowns to offer the best leverage possible.

Especially in industrial manufacturing companies, the supplier's sales person is often the better informed party during negotiations. This solution aims to change that by arming businesses with better data and 360 spend analytics.

<a href="https://lhotse-analytics.com/">Link to Lhotse Analytics website</a>
<h3>6. Procuros</h3>
Procuros, based in Hamburg, automates B2B transactions. It acts as one-to-all middleware between ERP systems and the end user. This turns manual ERP processes into digital workflows with a user friendly interface.

Procuros enables automatic data exchange from ERP system, via a self-serve interface for buyer and stakeholder alike. This, according to them, makes requesting and onboarding suppliers as easy as sending someone a facebook friend request.

<a href="https://procuros.io/">Link to Procuros website</a>
<h3>7. Matchory</h3>
This German startup offers a supplier scouting tool which is simple and  effective. It brings unstructured, decentralised and diverse supplier information into a harmonised supplier search.

It does this three ways. With a web scraper that searches for supplier data, by accessing publicly accessible data and through an API that talks to other systems, extracts data, and enriches it.

This data is then cleansed using ML and AI. T

Matchory claim that it only takes five minutes to find the right supplier through their platform, so this is great for anyone who's new to their category or doesn't already have a large database of potential suppliers.

<a href="https://matchory.com/">Link to Matchory website</a>
<h3>8. PAXLY</h3>
Paxly is another German startup with a very niche focus on packaging spend. Their solution helps with sourcing, selection and evaluation of bids in the packaging category. It's hard to source packaging in a standard invoicing platform, so what PAXLY aims to do is create a simple channel that's custom-tuned to the needs of packaging procurement.

<a href="https://www.paxly.eu/">Link to PAXLY website</a>
<h3>9. Tacto</h3>
Based in Munich, Tacto offer an end-to-end source-to-contract and analytics portal for direct manufacturing business, especially medium sized ones.

The focus here is on creating an intelligent procurement operating system that easily identifies opportunities and realises them within the platform - covering everything from sourcing, RFX, ajd operational purchasing ato analytics, as well as offering a supplier and vendor portal.

Their USP is being plug and play, with no high level consulting or ERP integration required to get the most out of the platform.

<a href="https://www.tacto.ai/">Link to Tacto website</a>
<h3>10. Negotiation Intelligence</h3>
Another Swiss startup, this might be the one that I found most intriguing. A completely new concept, Negotiation Intelligence combines tech with human experience.

It tackles the challenge of negotiation training. I'm sure we've all been on this kind of training, forgot most of what we were told and pushed the handout into a drawer to never be looked at again. And fair enough - the static classroom environment doesn't always translate to the real world.

Negotiation Intelligence aims to solve that by using an AI-driven core engine that gives live training, with built-in negotiation roleplays that gamify the training experience. On top of that, there's an ongoing toolkit for subscribers to improve their negotiation skills. Negotiation Intelligence combines the power of speech recognition, advanced data analytics, and human-delivered coaching for a truly hybrid approach.

One of the things I found most interesting here was that you can then host internal league tables within an organisation so you can see who your strongest negotiators are. Not only fostering a competitive attitude, but allowing you to see where your human resources will be best spent.

<a href="https://negotiationintelligence.com/">Link to Negotiation Intelligence website</a>
<h3><b>Wrapping up Series 2</b></h3>
With that, we've reached the end of Series 2.

And I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for listening to this series of the podcast.

I'm really honoured and humbled that we've been able to double our average number of monthly listeners this season, and I can't thank you all enough for that.

I hope you're just as excited as I am about what we've got coming up in the future, on procurementsoftware.site as a whole, and on this podcast, which comes back for Series 3 in September this year.

Until then, we hope you have a great summer!

There's plenty more to come in the future, and I look forward to seeing there.
<h3><strong>Stay in touch</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit ProcurementSoftware.site</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" rev="en_rl_none">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" rev="en_rl_none">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/37782359/" rev="en_rl_none">Follow Procurement Software’s LinkedIn Page</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<h3><strong>
Find today's featured startups on LinkedIn and beyond!</strong></h3>
<ol>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/flowciety/about/">Flowciety</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/shouldcosting-gmbh/">Shouldcosting</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/hivebuy/">Hivebuy</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/trueledger1/">TureLedger</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/lhotse-analytics/">Lhotse Analytics</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/procuros/">Procuros</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/matchory/">Matchory</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/paxly-gmbh/">PAXLY</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/tactotechnology/">Tacto</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://negotiationintelligence.com/">Negotiation Intelligence</a></li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8d8cf5c0-e1bf-400d-8057-0136183f6777</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ab81a342-6eaa-4fdc-82f1-b621d5962616/Procuretech-20ep-2046-20Solo-20Episode.mp3" length="22718595" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Source-to-Pay for the Public Sector – Grant Smith from Elcom</title><itunes:title>Source-to-Pay for the Public Sector – Grant Smith from Elcom</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're looking at something we rarely talk about on the podcast - the public sector.</span>
<h2><strong>Insights on Source-to-Pay technology in the Public Sector</strong></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest this week is Grant Smith, COO of Elcom. He's here to lend his expertise, which is handy because the public sector is a topic I know relatively little about.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Grant hails from the UK, but his experience should be applicable to public procurement in any developed markets.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>A brief overview of Elcom</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We kick off with a brief history of Elcom. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It started out in the US in the early 90s as a hardware reseller. They developed a piece of software with MIT in Boston to run the ordering and procurement process for the business. When the dotcom bubble burst in the late nineties, they sold the hardware business and began to focus on the software side of things instead. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In 2001 they were offered the Scottish government's P2P service, which they're still running. It's run as a shared service by the Scottish government, for and on behalf of the entire Scottish public sector, processing nearly 8 billion pounds worth of public sector spend each year. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom also does work across the UK in the health and education space, where the software covers sourcing, contract management, P2P, inventory, point of care, analytics, and more, along with supplier services such as bid management.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a full stack suite, just in a very specific niche. And with such a saturated market, it's important to carve out that niche if you want to survive.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>How is public procurement different from the private sector?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The main difference is that the public sector is quite heavily regulated. There are thresholds in terms of the value of goods, works, or services that you're buying that need to be advertised and go through a formal process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For example, in sourcing, there are procedures that must be followed quite rigigly. In the private sector, you go out, you get your quotes and you make a decision on who you're awarding to.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But on the public side, there are a lot more rules to follow: Minimum number of bidders, the ratio between price and technical, and the documentation you need to go through, should the procurement be challenged. There are many more hoops to jump through on the public side, especially post award.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We then move on to discussing some tangible examples of what we can learn from public procurement, and focus first on healthcare.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>What are the benefits of digitisation in public sector health care?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Grant's UK-centric experience means that he's used to working in health care as part of the public sector. This is of course not the case everywhere in the world, for example in the US. But he's seen interesting things in the UK's inventory and point of care space that are applicable worldwide.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In UK healthcare, there's a good initiative called 'scan for safety', whereby consumables are regularly barcode scanned to capture data and keep track of things during a procedure. The software captures information like stocktake data, items consumed during a procedure, who's in the room, and where a procedure takes place.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">An innovation here is RFID (radio frequency identification) , which could really revolutionise the provision, costing and tracking of care in a clinical environment.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With barcodes, the problem is having to label everything manually: Staff need barcodes on their badges, each individual item has to be packaged with a label, and those labels need to be scanned by hand. It's labour intensive, and cost prohibitive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFID, though, removes this practical barrier. You don't need to apply barcodes to each and every item. Now the software can use either the RFID or the barcode, and this is already reducing costs.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>The revolutionary benefits of RFID</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Think of the day when manufactures put RFID packaging on their items, as they do now with barcodes. You'd have RFID tags on every item, and also in each location. Stocktaking, which is now a heavily manual process, would be made much more straightforward. A simple RFID reader could gather the data and pass that on to the software automatically.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This aligns with these initiatives, allowing for a better, more granular data capture with much less manual work.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFID could also be a huge boon to general manufacturing, as a very viable solution for things like store room spare parts. It could also solve the common problem of items going missing because they're not being booked out of storerooms correctly.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're already seeing this in retail – some supermarkets (and Amazon's new convenience stores) now allow you to pick up items, put them in your basket, then walk out the door while the store automatically charges your credit card. And this is almost certainly going to be important technology for procurement, going forwards.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Digitisation in local government procurement</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about the big focus on ESG, and making sure it's embedded into the procurement process, and also how local governments are often keen on awarding business to small and medium sized enterprises. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Are these objectives conflicting, when we look at the increased amount of bureaucracy around ESG, considering smaller businesses might not have the resources to handle such in-depth compliance? How can Elcom help with this?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of the biggest complaints from small businesses, especially in the UK, is that public procurement is too bureaucratic. When a tender is released, many SMEs are put off by what's required, and ESG is definitely a factor there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In the sourcing and contract management space in particular, we're seeing a move towards including ESG factors. It's common now for an awarding authority to ask for a commitment plan on environmental impact, a commitment on not paying less than minimum wage, or for a statement on gender pay gaps. They may also ask how your business practices can positively impact society – things like taking on young adults and training them for the benefit of society at large.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">While all this is admirable, it definitely creates barriers for small businesses, and could create the risk of giving an advantage to big business.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3>Data analytics and granular visibility</h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom aims to mitigate this risk through the benefits of visibility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Looking at the data and analytics angle, Elcom takes spend data, cleans, categorises and augments it, and can then give deeper insights into spend.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From a single line of this data, they can start to deconstruct who that supplier is, where they're located and the nature of that supplier – whether they're an SME or not. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Regardless of whether this data is being skewed by large businesses, having the information can help to nail down the type of spend, and what impact that has in terms of ESG. This should, in turn, influence what the public sector is buying, if that's the way society wants to go.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Giving this visibility into spend should not disenfranchise smaller businesses.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As long as the vendor can be identified as a corporate entity, that can lead to additional data in terms of wider social or environmental criteria.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom brings in data from other sources to give a clearer picture of an organisation. This solves the classic problem of the duplicate supplier, or supplier being identified in different ways. For example, by bringing in data from Companies House, the charity commission, the care equality commission and other sources, Elcom can 'roll up' duplicate suppliers into a single parent / child entity.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Take the large UK supermarket chain Tesco as an example, they have a single headquarters in</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> Welwyn Garden City</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> which would be referred to as the parent entity, then each individual supermarket throughout the country would be identified as a child entity. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is particularly useful when gauging local impact, as it helps to gauge what's happening at a local level, store by store. Money can be spent locally by these child entities, and isn't necessarily always paid back to headquarters in a simple way.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>Elcom and eSourcing</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom has an integrated eSourcing function within it as a source-to-pay solution, rather than procure-to-pay – what drove Grant to offer this, rather than partner with a best of breed for eSourcing, considering this is such a saturated market?</span>

<span]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're looking at something we rarely talk about on the podcast - the public sector.</span>
<h2><strong>Insights on Source-to-Pay technology in the Public Sector</strong></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">My guest this week is Grant Smith, COO of Elcom. He's here to lend his expertise, which is handy because the public sector is a topic I know relatively little about.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Grant hails from the UK, but his experience should be applicable to public procurement in any developed markets.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>A brief overview of Elcom</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We kick off with a brief history of Elcom. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It started out in the US in the early 90s as a hardware reseller. They developed a piece of software with MIT in Boston to run the ordering and procurement process for the business. When the dotcom bubble burst in the late nineties, they sold the hardware business and began to focus on the software side of things instead. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In 2001 they were offered the Scottish government's P2P service, which they're still running. It's run as a shared service by the Scottish government, for and on behalf of the entire Scottish public sector, processing nearly 8 billion pounds worth of public sector spend each year. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom also does work across the UK in the health and education space, where the software covers sourcing, contract management, P2P, inventory, point of care, analytics, and more, along with supplier services such as bid management.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a full stack suite, just in a very specific niche. And with such a saturated market, it's important to carve out that niche if you want to survive.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>How is public procurement different from the private sector?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The main difference is that the public sector is quite heavily regulated. There are thresholds in terms of the value of goods, works, or services that you're buying that need to be advertised and go through a formal process.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For example, in sourcing, there are procedures that must be followed quite rigigly. In the private sector, you go out, you get your quotes and you make a decision on who you're awarding to.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But on the public side, there are a lot more rules to follow: Minimum number of bidders, the ratio between price and technical, and the documentation you need to go through, should the procurement be challenged. There are many more hoops to jump through on the public side, especially post award.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We then move on to discussing some tangible examples of what we can learn from public procurement, and focus first on healthcare.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>What are the benefits of digitisation in public sector health care?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Grant's UK-centric experience means that he's used to working in health care as part of the public sector. This is of course not the case everywhere in the world, for example in the US. But he's seen interesting things in the UK's inventory and point of care space that are applicable worldwide.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In UK healthcare, there's a good initiative called 'scan for safety', whereby consumables are regularly barcode scanned to capture data and keep track of things during a procedure. The software captures information like stocktake data, items consumed during a procedure, who's in the room, and where a procedure takes place.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">An innovation here is RFID (radio frequency identification) , which could really revolutionise the provision, costing and tracking of care in a clinical environment.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">With barcodes, the problem is having to label everything manually: Staff need barcodes on their badges, each individual item has to be packaged with a label, and those labels need to be scanned by hand. It's labour intensive, and cost prohibitive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFID, though, removes this practical barrier. You don't need to apply barcodes to each and every item. Now the software can use either the RFID or the barcode, and this is already reducing costs.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>The revolutionary benefits of RFID</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Think of the day when manufactures put RFID packaging on their items, as they do now with barcodes. You'd have RFID tags on every item, and also in each location. Stocktaking, which is now a heavily manual process, would be made much more straightforward. A simple RFID reader could gather the data and pass that on to the software automatically.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This aligns with these initiatives, allowing for a better, more granular data capture with much less manual work.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">RFID could also be a huge boon to general manufacturing, as a very viable solution for things like store room spare parts. It could also solve the common problem of items going missing because they're not being booked out of storerooms correctly.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're already seeing this in retail – some supermarkets (and Amazon's new convenience stores) now allow you to pick up items, put them in your basket, then walk out the door while the store automatically charges your credit card. And this is almost certainly going to be important technology for procurement, going forwards.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Digitisation in local government procurement</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We talk about the big focus on ESG, and making sure it's embedded into the procurement process, and also how local governments are often keen on awarding business to small and medium sized enterprises. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Are these objectives conflicting, when we look at the increased amount of bureaucracy around ESG, considering smaller businesses might not have the resources to handle such in-depth compliance? How can Elcom help with this?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">One of the biggest complaints from small businesses, especially in the UK, is that public procurement is too bureaucratic. When a tender is released, many SMEs are put off by what's required, and ESG is definitely a factor there.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In the sourcing and contract management space in particular, we're seeing a move towards including ESG factors. It's common now for an awarding authority to ask for a commitment plan on environmental impact, a commitment on not paying less than minimum wage, or for a statement on gender pay gaps. They may also ask how your business practices can positively impact society – things like taking on young adults and training them for the benefit of society at large.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">While all this is admirable, it definitely creates barriers for small businesses, and could create the risk of giving an advantage to big business.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3>Data analytics and granular visibility</h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom aims to mitigate this risk through the benefits of visibility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Looking at the data and analytics angle, Elcom takes spend data, cleans, categorises and augments it, and can then give deeper insights into spend.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">From a single line of this data, they can start to deconstruct who that supplier is, where they're located and the nature of that supplier – whether they're an SME or not. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Regardless of whether this data is being skewed by large businesses, having the information can help to nail down the type of spend, and what impact that has in terms of ESG. This should, in turn, influence what the public sector is buying, if that's the way society wants to go.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Giving this visibility into spend should not disenfranchise smaller businesses.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As long as the vendor can be identified as a corporate entity, that can lead to additional data in terms of wider social or environmental criteria.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom brings in data from other sources to give a clearer picture of an organisation. This solves the classic problem of the duplicate supplier, or supplier being identified in different ways. For example, by bringing in data from Companies House, the charity commission, the care equality commission and other sources, Elcom can 'roll up' duplicate suppliers into a single parent / child entity.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Take the large UK supermarket chain Tesco as an example, they have a single headquarters in</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> Welwyn Garden City</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> which would be referred to as the parent entity, then each individual supermarket throughout the country would be identified as a child entity. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This is particularly useful when gauging local impact, as it helps to gauge what's happening at a local level, store by store. Money can be spent locally by these child entities, and isn't necessarily always paid back to headquarters in a simple way.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>Elcom and eSourcing</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Elcom has an integrated eSourcing function within it as a source-to-pay solution, rather than procure-to-pay – what drove Grant to offer this, rather than partner with a best of breed for eSourcing, considering this is such a saturated market?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">And why choose this over a less work-intensive P2P system?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Firstly, the Elcom software is modular. So a lot of Elcom's clients do already have a sourcing solution in place that can be integrated instead. But there are still authorities out there, especially in the public sector, who don't. So there's still a demand for Elcom to offer that kind of software.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It may require a lot of upkeep to manage, but for now the numbers still add up and Elcom can generate revenue on this front.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Also, there's a difference between a quick sourcing request and a more strategic sourcing exercise. And the public sector's sourcing needs are fundamentally different to those of the private sector.</span>

&nbsp;

<span style="font-weight: 400">We wrap up the podcast by asking Grant where you can follow his work at Elcom, or get in touch.</span>
<h3></h3>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-smith-2b145a7/?originalSubdomain=uk">Connect with Grant on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Vist <a href="https://www.elcom.com/">Elcom's</a> website</li>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit ProcurementSoftware.site</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f73bdcae-a03d-4a4c-b2b4-e9f2b12668e1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/21da3549-2dd5-44cf-b794-0d4af7cdb306/Procuretech-20ep-2045-20Grant-20Smith.mp3" length="24048541" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Agile Spend Analytics for SMEs – Thomas Heller-Njor from CostBits</title><itunes:title>Agile Spend Analytics for SMEs – Thomas Heller-Njor from CostBits</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're diving back into the topic of spend analytics and spend analysis, with a focus on smaller and medium sized businesses. We'll look at the challenges they face, and how smaller businesses can afford a spend analytics solution that works for their unique needs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're joined this week by Thomas Siersbæk Heller-Njor, from CostBits – a procurement professional who's entered the procurement tech space, with a unique spend analysis solution for the mid market.</span>
<h2><strong>Tailoring Spend Analytics to the Mid Market </strong></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">First up, I ask Thomas to introduce himself and his background.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas started working in IT, then moved to working in procurement for the shipping line Maersk, where one of his projects was in spend management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He found himself living in Cape Town, doing an assessment for the 42 sub-Saharan countries, and realised he had no tool for the job at hand: Gathering PO data, contract data, spend data, etc. So he built a very crude version of his software then, and realised it was a tool that others could benefit from. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's excited to get to work in this space, and passionate about wanting to make data more accessible, available, and actionable.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I pick up on the word 'actionable' as a key differentiator between CostBits and its competition. What does this mean, and  makes CostBits stand out?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a range of different factors here. From a user perspective, the main benefit of CostBits (as well as a simple UI), is that most people stop with analytics. Maybe people working in strategy look into analytics once in a while, but his experience is that a good contract doesn't always equal real savings. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So how can he create a spend management platform that gives more? Data. All the data that CostBits get every minute, or even every second, can be mined.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Let's say you agree on a price of a hundred, then you get billed for a hundred and twenty, CostBits can use data to see that and ask “is this a good idea?”. It generates actions and guidance for normal people who can't see through millions of lines of complex data. It notices things: “There's a contract for this category and you're not using it – is that okay?”. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits aims to bridge strategy and day-to-day operations with understandable suggested actions.</span>
<h3><strong>Building on invoices, not orders</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">This kind of contract / price discrepancy happens more often than we'd like to admit. One of my frustrations with pulling spend analytics from ERP is that procurement gets access to all the different reports around orders placed, but that's not spend – spend is what you actually pay on invoices.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's why CostBits is built entirely on invoices, and if they can get purchase orders, contracts, and catalogue information, that gets added on top. When working with smaller mid-market customers, invoices are where the real useful information lies.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Smaller companies don't have a wealth of resources for data management. They may have maybe one person who does business intelligence, and they don't necessarily know the data. So CostBits simplifies this, by focusing on actions to create real impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Data and resourcing are critical here, and that I'd like to come back to that point. But before that, let's get back to basics. How much revenue or spend would a company need to have before they'd see the benefits of what CostBits?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The more spend you have, the more you can get out of it from a pure money perspective. Anything more than 5-10 million euros in spend is going to be more than enough. But he still wants to address folks in the mid-market, so one of the key indicators on whether they'll be able to get anything out of the software is whether or not they have distributed procurement: Not strategic, tactical procurement, but more purchasing and operational.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Actions-focused spend analysis</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, let's say you have a plant and a HQ. You're buying, but you don't understand the contracts – they're probably in binders behind somebody's desk. If you're in this position where you have more than one location, or even people within the same location buying from vendors, you're going to have a structural issue with follow-up. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits can give that structure, so yes – money is an issue, but there are benefits beyond that in terms of structure.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This leads me to ask Thomas to walk us through what he thinks the key differences and problems are, between large and small businesses. Is it misalignment in terms of objectives, is it capability? What are the biggest issues here?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you're a large multinational company, the issue is that you have a ton of different systems. Maybe growth through acquisition has left things really messy. But you have the budget, training and staff to make sense of it all.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">However, in the mid-market you have simpler data, and fewer systems. Structure is simpler, cleaning is simpler, here the brick wall is in terms of capabilities – these companies don't have a procurement department. Your procurement team might even take on that role as a full time job. Small companies simply can't afford the training needed here.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Selling CostBits to medium-sized companies</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas thinks that procurement departments aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and often aren't invested in enough.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's the old adage, many companies understand what they sell, but very few truly understand what they buy. And if that's the case - if smaller companies don't have a dedicated procurement department - will they 'get' what he's selling to them. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In this case, what would Thomas's sales strategy be? Would he sell directly to a CFO or managing director?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Yes – this is pretty spot on. He would always engage finance in this instance. They have the budget, so he has to get them on board. In larger medium-sized companies, there may be people more dedicated to procurement so in these cases he can get a phone number and have a conversation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For smaller companies with no real procurement on their org chart, he goes straight to finance. Because these are the people who know that the cost of goods is super important. They know this, but they just don't know what to do about it. These guys know they need to do something, especially with the chaotic times we're now living in. But they're staring at the data with no real direction. And that's where CostBits comes in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How would Thomas get around the capabilities gap here? If finance has the data, but they're struggling to implement changes based on that, what does he do there? Does he offer consulting?</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing spend analytics to close the capabilities gap</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits always helps with implementation, but doesn't sell actual consultancy. His perspective is that he'd rather be the hub in the ecosystem. If you need a consultant to help you with the change, he could do that. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But Thomas would rather focus on bringing more companies and clients in, helping them with procurement, and  bridging internal and external gaps. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He hooks up with external parties – and doesn't make a dime on it. One of his first clients bought the software, then three weeks later bought catalogue software from someone Thomas knew in the market.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you're a smaller company, you can get the software from Costbits, and they will see the gaps and point you to solutions, but Thomas doesn't want to solve those problems <em>for</em> anyone, through consulting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I add that selling consulting isn't half as scalable as selling software! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The focus is on building something that makes a difference to the entire ecosystem, rather than going deep on consulting for a small handful of companies.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">My next question is about the lower end of the market. If Thomas is selling CostBits to companies who don't have large dedicated procurement teams, they're going to be predominantly involved in operational, tactical activities – especially given the geopolitical challenges at the moment. So, it's one thing being able to access results from tools quickly in terms of analysis, but what does he do in terms of delivering on the platform's insights?</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Bridging the gap between analytics and the day-to-day</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">First, the tool's landing page tells you per category, or per lever, what you can do - be that reducing supplier base, renegotiation, contract compliance...the usual stuff. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The landing page will tell you which categories and levers have the biggest...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're diving back into the topic of spend analytics and spend analysis, with a focus on smaller and medium sized businesses. We'll look at the challenges they face, and how smaller businesses can afford a spend analytics solution that works for their unique needs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We're joined this week by Thomas Siersbæk Heller-Njor, from CostBits – a procurement professional who's entered the procurement tech space, with a unique spend analysis solution for the mid market.</span>
<h2><strong>Tailoring Spend Analytics to the Mid Market </strong></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">First up, I ask Thomas to introduce himself and his background.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas started working in IT, then moved to working in procurement for the shipping line Maersk, where one of his projects was in spend management. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He found himself living in Cape Town, doing an assessment for the 42 sub-Saharan countries, and realised he had no tool for the job at hand: Gathering PO data, contract data, spend data, etc. So he built a very crude version of his software then, and realised it was a tool that others could benefit from. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's excited to get to work in this space, and passionate about wanting to make data more accessible, available, and actionable.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I pick up on the word 'actionable' as a key differentiator between CostBits and its competition. What does this mean, and  makes CostBits stand out?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There's a range of different factors here. From a user perspective, the main benefit of CostBits (as well as a simple UI), is that most people stop with analytics. Maybe people working in strategy look into analytics once in a while, but his experience is that a good contract doesn't always equal real savings. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So how can he create a spend management platform that gives more? Data. All the data that CostBits get every minute, or even every second, can be mined.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Let's say you agree on a price of a hundred, then you get billed for a hundred and twenty, CostBits can use data to see that and ask “is this a good idea?”. It generates actions and guidance for normal people who can't see through millions of lines of complex data. It notices things: “There's a contract for this category and you're not using it – is that okay?”. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits aims to bridge strategy and day-to-day operations with understandable suggested actions.</span>
<h3><strong>Building on invoices, not orders</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">This kind of contract / price discrepancy happens more often than we'd like to admit. One of my frustrations with pulling spend analytics from ERP is that procurement gets access to all the different reports around orders placed, but that's not spend – spend is what you actually pay on invoices.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">That's why CostBits is built entirely on invoices, and if they can get purchase orders, contracts, and catalogue information, that gets added on top. When working with smaller mid-market customers, invoices are where the real useful information lies.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Smaller companies don't have a wealth of resources for data management. They may have maybe one person who does business intelligence, and they don't necessarily know the data. So CostBits simplifies this, by focusing on actions to create real impact.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Data and resourcing are critical here, and that I'd like to come back to that point. But before that, let's get back to basics. How much revenue or spend would a company need to have before they'd see the benefits of what CostBits?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The more spend you have, the more you can get out of it from a pure money perspective. Anything more than 5-10 million euros in spend is going to be more than enough. But he still wants to address folks in the mid-market, so one of the key indicators on whether they'll be able to get anything out of the software is whether or not they have distributed procurement: Not strategic, tactical procurement, but more purchasing and operational.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Actions-focused spend analysis</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">As an example, let's say you have a plant and a HQ. You're buying, but you don't understand the contracts – they're probably in binders behind somebody's desk. If you're in this position where you have more than one location, or even people within the same location buying from vendors, you're going to have a structural issue with follow-up. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits can give that structure, so yes – money is an issue, but there are benefits beyond that in terms of structure.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">This leads me to ask Thomas to walk us through what he thinks the key differences and problems are, between large and small businesses. Is it misalignment in terms of objectives, is it capability? What are the biggest issues here?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you're a large multinational company, the issue is that you have a ton of different systems. Maybe growth through acquisition has left things really messy. But you have the budget, training and staff to make sense of it all.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">However, in the mid-market you have simpler data, and fewer systems. Structure is simpler, cleaning is simpler, here the brick wall is in terms of capabilities – these companies don't have a procurement department. Your procurement team might even take on that role as a full time job. Small companies simply can't afford the training needed here.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Selling CostBits to medium-sized companies</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas thinks that procurement departments aren't given the benefit of the doubt, and often aren't invested in enough.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's the old adage, many companies understand what they sell, but very few truly understand what they buy. And if that's the case - if smaller companies don't have a dedicated procurement department - will they 'get' what he's selling to them. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In this case, what would Thomas's sales strategy be? Would he sell directly to a CFO or managing director?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Yes – this is pretty spot on. He would always engage finance in this instance. They have the budget, so he has to get them on board. In larger medium-sized companies, there may be people more dedicated to procurement so in these cases he can get a phone number and have a conversation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">For smaller companies with no real procurement on their org chart, he goes straight to finance. Because these are the people who know that the cost of goods is super important. They know this, but they just don't know what to do about it. These guys know they need to do something, especially with the chaotic times we're now living in. But they're staring at the data with no real direction. And that's where CostBits comes in.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How would Thomas get around the capabilities gap here? If finance has the data, but they're struggling to implement changes based on that, what does he do there? Does he offer consulting?</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Implementing spend analytics to close the capabilities gap</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">CostBits always helps with implementation, but doesn't sell actual consultancy. His perspective is that he'd rather be the hub in the ecosystem. If you need a consultant to help you with the change, he could do that. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But Thomas would rather focus on bringing more companies and clients in, helping them with procurement, and  bridging internal and external gaps. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He hooks up with external parties – and doesn't make a dime on it. One of his first clients bought the software, then three weeks later bought catalogue software from someone Thomas knew in the market.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">When you're a smaller company, you can get the software from Costbits, and they will see the gaps and point you to solutions, but Thomas doesn't want to solve those problems <em>for</em> anyone, through consulting.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I add that selling consulting isn't half as scalable as selling software! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The focus is on building something that makes a difference to the entire ecosystem, rather than going deep on consulting for a small handful of companies.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">My next question is about the lower end of the market. If Thomas is selling CostBits to companies who don't have large dedicated procurement teams, they're going to be predominantly involved in operational, tactical activities – especially given the geopolitical challenges at the moment. So, it's one thing being able to access results from tools quickly in terms of analysis, but what does he do in terms of delivering on the platform's insights?</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Bridging the gap between analytics and the day-to-day</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">First, the tool's landing page tells you per category, or per lever, what you can do - be that reducing supplier base, renegotiation, contract compliance...the usual stuff. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The landing page will tell you which categories and levers have the biggest potential upside for cost reduction.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">People don't have the time to plough through data and make their own analysis. It's hard enough to spot problems, let alone the levers that will affect the most change. CostBits give them a list of actions with a click of a button.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Another thing Thomas aims to do here is bridge analytics and the day-to-day. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He's working on adding more feeds for day-to-day transactions. For example, when an invoice comes in that should've been paid a different way, or didn't follow the contract, that will come up for the actual employee responsible. So then you can say to that employee, specifically, “what happened here? Is this okay?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Analytics is great, but the key focus here is connecting operations to analytics, for real value, not just a pretty picture.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Is this similar to how guided buying works, where users are walked through their options in simple terms? Y</span>es, this is exactly it, taking the thinking from guided buying, and applying that on a feed level.

<span style="font-weight: 400">The dream, which may take a few years yet, is that a normal procurement purchasing operations employee can come in at the start of their day and say “this is my feed of stuff to do for the day”.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Changing behaviours and supporting positive change</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">He wants to build a tool that changes behaviour and supports that in a positive way. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He doesn't want to see the negative way, where an invoice comes in and we have to say: “You didn't use the contract, that's very bad”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400"> Instead, Thomas wants to create a scenario where we spot the purchase order and say: “You made a purchase order from supplier number one in this category, when we have a contract for supplier number two – are you sure this is the best move?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's too late, if what you're looking at is an invoice. So that's his thinking – he wants to guide people.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">How often would users need to take a CSV dump of the data to make sure it's accurate? If it's coming from finance, then presumably it needs to be uploaded into CostBits intelligently to be of any use?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas says that if he wants to get lots of people on board with his software, he needs to keep implementation fast. So CostBits feeds directly from the customer's ERP or finances. Then they have the data models, and understand how that looks per system. So this makes implementation really fast – CostBits onboarded its first client in two days, as opposed to six months.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask about licensing models. Does CostBits use a per-user licence model, or a per-organisation licence model?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Thomas says that while they're still learning here,  right now it's a per-user licence model. Maybe this will change over time, but this way made sense to begin with. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">However, what CostBits is not doing, ever, is a per-consumption licence. The whole point of CostBits is to get lots of people looking at all the data, and consumption-based licences limit usage.</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> You need people to go in and use the software a lot, that's the whole point.</span>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
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<h2><b>Supplier-centric transformation and the future of procurement</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang for a quick bit of background, before we move on to talking about his book.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He explains that he is currently leading procurement for BCG across Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and South America. He focuses on procurement transformations across different industries, including automotive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In particular, Wolfgang says that he enjoys expanding the mandate for procurement for wider value generation, using technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang about common mistakes in how organisations manage their procurement teams internally.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that, interestingly enough, many of the biggest companies make the biggest mistakes - 50, 60, perhaps even 70 percent of a company’s overall budget is managed through suppliers by procurement. Oftentimes it goes even higher. If you look at how much time CEOs spend thinking about suppliers or procurement, you’d be surprised: 1% of their day, which is around seven minutes. There is not enough focus on procurement, when there’s such big potential in terms of overall spend numbers. </span>
<h3><b>Sales or sourcing? Why businesses need to shift their focus</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang why procurement doesn’t get the same level of attention as sales.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks that this goes overlooked because most CEOs come from a sales background. It’s a legacy issue that has to change.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Look at Apple - Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO was a CPO before that. He’s always thinking in terms of profit from the source, and it’s paid off for them.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I go on to ask Wolfgang if this means we need to get CEOs on board, so that organisations can view procurement differently. Or is it more simple, that procurement just needs a bigger training budget?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang thinks it’ll need a structural mandate to empower procurement. As an example, he asks us to imagine an engineering company: It may have relatively few engineers in-house, but imagine every engineer in that company’s supply chain, all the way down the tiers… It’s a huge number of people that could be coming up with great ideas for that company. It’s frustrating that procurement always gets so little time and money spent on it, so late in the process. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also agrees with my second point on training - we need to train people better. It all comes down to experience and expertise. If you have people working in steel procurement, they should have worked in a steel plant. Industry experience really matters.</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> </span>
<h3><b>Category specific experience - why procurement deserves experts</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">CPOs often move their procurement professionals around, presumably thinking that it’ll broaden their experience and expose them to more categories. But I put it to Wolfgang that he’s almost saying the opposite - procurement experience only has so much value, and it’s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400">category-specific</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400"> experience that really counts. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that procurement people should have technical expertise in what they’re buying. They need to be able to trigger ideas from suppliers. This way you can align ideas coming from the inside and outside of the company. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks that many procurement professionals do this already - they do think deeply into their categories and they can innovate. But this potential is never tapped, they’re not heard in the organisation because they come into the process too late, and are often only expected to give a cost focus. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need to give a mandate for these people to speak up more. Again, he mentions Apple as an example.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also raises the pandemic - it was procurement in the end that solved those issues. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say this is all very well and good in theory. But go on to share some of my own experiences as an under-appreciated category manager: A lot of administrative busy work that companies dump onto procurement professionals, despite it not really being their job. Don’t we need to fix that, before we can get to the good stuff Wolfgang’s talking about ?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says it’s a big challenge, but also a massive opportunity. We need to do things in parallel.  We now have AI that can help us in all the key value dimensions - savings, innovation, risk, sustainability… </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">If we’re asking for a bigger mandate, it’s great to compliment that with powerful tools. But neither tools nor mandate can get the job done without the other. It’s going to have to be a synchronised process.</span>
<h3><b>Going bionic</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang about the phrase ‘going bionic’ from his book - the idea of integrating together human ingenuity with technological innovation. This seems to encapsulate what he’s trying to say here. Could he talk us through what a successful change management process looks like, in terms of ‘going bionic’?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang brings up the case of a German automotive company. He started to work with them a few years ago, and back then the indirect procurement function was not the place to be.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We laugh about this - it rarely is!</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">But people there were feeling utterly powerless, like every day there was a wasted day. It was the last point from which anyone could make meaningful decisions. But in the end, the two things we just mentioned happened in parallel. One, a strong roadmap laid out in terms of mandate requests, for example being involved early on in IT sourcing. And two, great enablement through capabilities, for example new tools and technologies. They used those powerful tools as a showcase - look at what we can do now. And this supported the mandate.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask specifically about that mandate - how did they convince the CEO to deliver that?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says you need to come from value. Sell procurement as the secret to CEO happiness, or the secret weapon to leapfrog competition. If CEOs manage procurement correctly, they can have whatever they need for their overall company strategy, be that savings, quality, speed, reduced risk… It is possible. </span>
<h3><b>A bigger mandate for procurement - what CEOs need to hear </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Everyone’s complaining about supplier shortages - that’s unsurprising, if the CEO only spends seven minutes a day thinking about suppliers! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that I often see it like a leaking bucket, or a tyre with a puncture - sales or revenue is the water pouring in, but lack of effective supplier management is a hole that this value flows straight back out of.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang says this is a great analogy, before we go to a quick break.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that it’s easy to convince CEOs with BCG stood behind him, but what tips would he have for chief procurement officers looking to do the same?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that procurement is often too far from procurement’s thoughts. Yes, CEO’s don’t think about procurement, but it works the other way round. He also thinks it’s important to make things tangible - share samples, share use cases, let the CEO see your hard work. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we’re going to create this mix of technology and human potential, what are some of the common myths out there? For example, there’s this feeling that robots and technology can replace human roles. What does Wolfgang think a procurement team of the future looks like?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says the future can be bright if we make it that way. Yes, some jobs and job profiles will be reduced by technology. But there are many new tasks coming up that deserve our focus, as procurement. If we can get these wide mandates to trigger creativity, then there is certainly still a huge job for procurement to do, that can not easily be replaced by a bot.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology doesn’t just reduce redundant tasks, but it helps make better choices in strategic tasks. Technology can steer us, not by becoming our boss, but by becoming a smart adviser.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - we need technology to take away these mundane tasks, because things like ESG and risk are increasing procurement’s workload. </span>
<h3><b>Is eliminating busy work the first step towards transformation?</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang thinks so, but eliminating tasks is scary - it makes people think of job losses, being replaced. So you have to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we’ve got another informal chat from The Procuretech Pub livestreams. I’m talking to Dr. Wolfgang Schnellbächer from BCG, the author of a new book fresh off the presses - Profit from the Source: Transforming Your Business by Putting Suppliers at the Core. </span>
<h2><b>Supplier-centric transformation and the future of procurement</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang for a quick bit of background, before we move on to talking about his book.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He explains that he is currently leading procurement for BCG across Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and South America. He focuses on procurement transformations across different industries, including automotive.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In particular, Wolfgang says that he enjoys expanding the mandate for procurement for wider value generation, using technology.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang about common mistakes in how organisations manage their procurement teams internally.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that, interestingly enough, many of the biggest companies make the biggest mistakes - 50, 60, perhaps even 70 percent of a company’s overall budget is managed through suppliers by procurement. Oftentimes it goes even higher. If you look at how much time CEOs spend thinking about suppliers or procurement, you’d be surprised: 1% of their day, which is around seven minutes. There is not enough focus on procurement, when there’s such big potential in terms of overall spend numbers. </span>
<h3><b>Sales or sourcing? Why businesses need to shift their focus</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang why procurement doesn’t get the same level of attention as sales.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks that this goes overlooked because most CEOs come from a sales background. It’s a legacy issue that has to change.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Look at Apple - Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO was a CPO before that. He’s always thinking in terms of profit from the source, and it’s paid off for them.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I go on to ask Wolfgang if this means we need to get CEOs on board, so that organisations can view procurement differently. Or is it more simple, that procurement just needs a bigger training budget?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang thinks it’ll need a structural mandate to empower procurement. As an example, he asks us to imagine an engineering company: It may have relatively few engineers in-house, but imagine every engineer in that company’s supply chain, all the way down the tiers… It’s a huge number of people that could be coming up with great ideas for that company. It’s frustrating that procurement always gets so little time and money spent on it, so late in the process. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also agrees with my second point on training - we need to train people better. It all comes down to experience and expertise. If you have people working in steel procurement, they should have worked in a steel plant. Industry experience really matters.</span><span style="font-weight: 400"> </span>
<h3><b>Category specific experience - why procurement deserves experts</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">CPOs often move their procurement professionals around, presumably thinking that it’ll broaden their experience and expose them to more categories. But I put it to Wolfgang that he’s almost saying the opposite - procurement experience only has so much value, and it’s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400">category-specific</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400"> experience that really counts. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that procurement people should have technical expertise in what they’re buying. They need to be able to trigger ideas from suppliers. This way you can align ideas coming from the inside and outside of the company. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks that many procurement professionals do this already - they do think deeply into their categories and they can innovate. But this potential is never tapped, they’re not heard in the organisation because they come into the process too late, and are often only expected to give a cost focus. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We need to give a mandate for these people to speak up more. Again, he mentions Apple as an example.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He also raises the pandemic - it was procurement in the end that solved those issues. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say this is all very well and good in theory. But go on to share some of my own experiences as an under-appreciated category manager: A lot of administrative busy work that companies dump onto procurement professionals, despite it not really being their job. Don’t we need to fix that, before we can get to the good stuff Wolfgang’s talking about ?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says it’s a big challenge, but also a massive opportunity. We need to do things in parallel.  We now have AI that can help us in all the key value dimensions - savings, innovation, risk, sustainability… </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">If we’re asking for a bigger mandate, it’s great to compliment that with powerful tools. But neither tools nor mandate can get the job done without the other. It’s going to have to be a synchronised process.</span>
<h3><b>Going bionic</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang about the phrase ‘going bionic’ from his book - the idea of integrating together human ingenuity with technological innovation. This seems to encapsulate what he’s trying to say here. Could he talk us through what a successful change management process looks like, in terms of ‘going bionic’?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang brings up the case of a German automotive company. He started to work with them a few years ago, and back then the indirect procurement function was not the place to be.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We laugh about this - it rarely is!</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">But people there were feeling utterly powerless, like every day there was a wasted day. It was the last point from which anyone could make meaningful decisions. But in the end, the two things we just mentioned happened in parallel. One, a strong roadmap laid out in terms of mandate requests, for example being involved early on in IT sourcing. And two, great enablement through capabilities, for example new tools and technologies. They used those powerful tools as a showcase - look at what we can do now. And this supported the mandate.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask specifically about that mandate - how did they convince the CEO to deliver that?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says you need to come from value. Sell procurement as the secret to CEO happiness, or the secret weapon to leapfrog competition. If CEOs manage procurement correctly, they can have whatever they need for their overall company strategy, be that savings, quality, speed, reduced risk… It is possible. </span>
<h3><b>A bigger mandate for procurement - what CEOs need to hear </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Everyone’s complaining about supplier shortages - that’s unsurprising, if the CEO only spends seven minutes a day thinking about suppliers! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that I often see it like a leaking bucket, or a tyre with a puncture - sales or revenue is the water pouring in, but lack of effective supplier management is a hole that this value flows straight back out of.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang says this is a great analogy, before we go to a quick break.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that it’s easy to convince CEOs with BCG stood behind him, but what tips would he have for chief procurement officers looking to do the same?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that procurement is often too far from procurement’s thoughts. Yes, CEO’s don’t think about procurement, but it works the other way round. He also thinks it’s important to make things tangible - share samples, share use cases, let the CEO see your hard work. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If we’re going to create this mix of technology and human potential, what are some of the common myths out there? For example, there’s this feeling that robots and technology can replace human roles. What does Wolfgang think a procurement team of the future looks like?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says the future can be bright if we make it that way. Yes, some jobs and job profiles will be reduced by technology. But there are many new tasks coming up that deserve our focus, as procurement. If we can get these wide mandates to trigger creativity, then there is certainly still a huge job for procurement to do, that can not easily be replaced by a bot.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Technology doesn’t just reduce redundant tasks, but it helps make better choices in strategic tasks. Technology can steer us, not by becoming our boss, but by becoming a smart adviser.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - we need technology to take away these mundane tasks, because things like ESG and risk are increasing procurement’s workload. </span>
<h3><b>Is eliminating busy work the first step towards transformation?</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang thinks so, but eliminating tasks is scary - it makes people think of job losses, being replaced. So you have to excite first, with all the things that those employees could achieve if they weren’t wasting so much time. You have to excite with the tools, the technology needed to use that new time even more effectively.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I bring up legacy suites, and how a lot of them don’t do the things we’ll need, going forwards. Looking to risk management and crisis avoidance today, how can companies reduce risk?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang says there are three things we need to be doing. </span>
<ol>
 	<li><span style="font-weight: 400">Bringing increased transparency - risk is wide. It starts with financial insecurity but goes on to disaster risks, pandemic risks, war risks. Just before the war in Ukraine, producers of trucks moved their production out of the country, and why? Because Russian border activity was so costly that it couldn’t possibly have been a bluff. Broad enough insight into procurement can really help you see global events on the horizon. </span></li>
 	<li>You need to have a defined tool box on risks. Buyers need to know their tools for risk management, just as well as they do already for savings.</li>
 	<li>We need to get closer to suppliers. If you have a rare thing you need to distribute, who do you give it to first? The people you know. We’re so used to treating people at arms length, in procurement. But we need to understand that this time is over. We need a deeper understanding of our suppliers, so we need closer personal relationships.</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><b>Hope for global supply chains in a climate of deglobalisation </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Wolfgang what he thinks about onshoring, or de-globalisation. Is this a knee-jerk reaction, or is it still possible to manage complex global supply chains?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang says that, although he does see de-globalisation already, he doesn’t want to give up on global supply chains. Finding the smartest supplier, producer, or manufacturer is a global process. You need to cast a wide net. So while some de-globalisation is necessary for resilience, we shouldn’t give it up. If we don’t do this, our companies will lose out and we will lose a lot of efficiencies.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if Wolfgang thinks the tech currently exists to manage what he was just talking about.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says no. The standard software can’t do it. But tailored solutions at individual companies could. We need specific answers to specific solutions. He gives the example of avoiding human rights abuses. We understand the metrics that feed into this (Wolfgang goes on to give examples), we can collect the data, and we can probably make something that works but there is no perfect AI solution for this that you can buy. It’s software that you have to build, using specific expertise, using your own data, for your own specific needs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that every company is different and that there’s no out-of-the-box solution for everyone. But I do question whether mid market companies can afford the kind of in-depth, DIY approach to software that Wolfgang is proposing.</span>
<h3><b>The value of talent</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We move on to talking about talent - what will this new supply chain environment we’re living in do to talent development and retention? What can we do to keep talent?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Wolfgang mentions the turnaround pyramid, and demographic shift in western countries - saying that there is something of an objective talent shortage. But yes, CEOs and CPOs need to go into hard discussions and conversations with talent. We need to advocate for procurement, and CPOs need to educate - not just the CEO but the entire company. Foster people making careers in your business, make them see that this is a great platform for them. And the last piece, of course, is technology. Investing in technology will attract the best new talent because they’ll want to work with that new technology. He talks about a company whose CPO started making content to promote new technologies within the company - articles, videos, podcasts, all to show people that they were using this latest tech and excite talent.  It’s not about finding the right people, it’s about </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400">attracting</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400"> them.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><b></b>
<h3><b>Wrapping up</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">The book was published on 21st June, by Harvard Business Review. In fact, it’s the first procurement book they’ve ever published. It will be in all good book shops, and also available on Amazon.</span>
<h3>Stay in Touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-wolfgang-schnellb%C3%A4cher-01444b142/">Connect with Wolfgang on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>More details about <a href="https://www.bcg.com/capabilities/operations/profit-from-the-source">Profit from the Source</a></li>
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 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">753418ac-17f2-47aa-a66e-24e305d99303</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a511cb08-1bf5-4cce-898e-6e11d2084427/Procuretech-20ep-2043-20Dr-20Wolfgang-20Schnellba-cher.mp3" length="38792470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Super Simple Category Strategies – Patrick Jonsson from DigiProcure</title><itunes:title>Super Simple Category Strategies - Patrick Jonsson from DigiProcure</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">On this podcast, I’m proud that we take the time to talk to some of the more early stage companies operating in this space. And you don’t get much more early stage than just launched! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our guest today is Patrick Jonsson from Digi Procure, whose recently launched company offers a low code / no code guided category strategy creation tool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Patrick to the podcast and ask him to open up with a quick intro on his background.</span>
<h2><b>Low code / no solutions in digital procurement</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick explains how he doesn’t come from anything of a tech background. From his home in Sweden, he’s embarked on an international career - everywhere from South America to Denmark. The bulk career of this was in procurement for complex organisational setups: Lots of stakeholder management and getting different cultures to agree. Then about three years ago, he went into consulting, but then decided it was time to move into the digital procurement space. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He found low code/no code solutions really interesting, and so following a low budget, bootstrap approach he launched a minimum viable product with his first solution, which only cost around 2000 dollars. There were some issues with his first customers, but in solving those he fell on what seemed to be needed: A solution for guided category strategy creation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Simplicity is Patrick’s keyword here. Digi Procure is a very simple tool that helps you get started with making category strategies. And with a low code platform, he aims to add further functionality and complexity over time.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say to Patrick that any SaaS solution will face the conundrum of functional complexity versus user experience. There’s not really a right or wrong answer here, and it can often come down to organisational maturity and complexity. I ask Patrick who he sees as the target users for Digi Procure. Is he aiming for large enterprises, or smaller businesses?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick thinks the answer is medium-sized and up. In his experience, many organisations struggle with making category strategies. You might get a consultant in and end up with a strategy that’s maybe 30-60 pages long, and these just end up on the shelf. Follow up on implementation might not ever get done. Then later you get a new CEO who wants to make some category strategies and you start the whole cycle again.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">So Patrick is aiming for what he calls  ‘maturity level 2’ companies. By this he means companies who are starting to dabble in strategic sourcing. You need that maturity and you need a certain size - maybe two or three category managers, before it makes sense to use Digi Procure.</span>
<h3><b>Simple and accessible early strategy for medium-sized companies </b><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that makes a lot of sense - we’re clearly not looking at greenfield here, as companies that young won’t have anything in place yet. But then the really big companies will probably want to go for that incredibly detailed kind of 60-page plan Patrick mentioned earlier. It’s really the medium-sized businesses that are just starting to dabble in category strategy who have the most to gain here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick agrees. He goes on to say that you can go more complex, using Digi Procure, and he speaks to some experience with customers who have asked for deeper functionality. But that’s the great thing about low code / no code. It’s adaptable to an individual customer’s needs and particularities in a way that traditional SaaS solutions might struggle with.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There’s also a much lower entry barrier when it comes to price - it doesn’t cost much to experiment with the kind of solution that Patrick is offering, compared to more established platforms with their own internal app stores. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He aims to reach a point where he can use a huge repository of category strategy knowledge, and leverage that to help clients as quickly and responsively as possible.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I bring up another benefit here - category strategy isn’t something that requires an integration with existing ERP systems. It’s an activity that largely allows you to use a standalone piece of technology without having to integrate it into your existing stack.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick says that’s just it - there were a couple of reasons why he chose this area to work in. For one, he is passionate about category strategy, but this ease of integration was definitely a factor too. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The third reason he chose to do this is that he thinks it’s a good place to start, if you want your company to mature. Many organisations struggle to move from operational work to strategic and tactical work. So why not start with simply doing a category strategy, and using a digital format that gets everybody speaking the same language. This lays strong foundations for a company’s journey towards maturity.</span>
<h3><b>Playing devil’s advocate</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I play devil’s advocate and pitch a scenario to Patrick. Let’s say I’m a head of procurement at a medium sized business with a team of five or six category managers. The biggest push back I’m going to give you is that strategy management takes too much time, it’s an administrative box-ticking exercise, it’s hard to pull together because everyone’s data is different… Convince me that I’m wrong.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick laughs like someone who’s definitely heard all this before. He sees where this comes from, but this is what he’s trying to attack. As costly as it can be, he thinks that you need strategy or you don’t know where you’re going. Sometimes you need to step back, and yes - that could be a massive workload. But do you need to invest in some hugely elaborate foundation in regard to spend review, or do you simply need to start asking some basic questions like “where do we want to go?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He recommends that you should start somewhere, and that’s where a simple tool like Digi Procure can help. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that this is where he’s heard great feedback from clients. After even a basic coaching session in strategy they come back to him and say “wow that was really good”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Patrick how this might work for a high ticket commodity within a mid-market business where the spend is high. Let’s say it’s a critical service or expensive material. How long does it take to put a category strategy through the system, bearing in mind the challenges that mid-sized businesses typically face with bad data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick says that if you want to go quite simple, his system could do one category in less than an hour. He explains that one of the selling points of his solution is customisation of complexity. You can set the level of detail you want, and that varies the depth of questions that you’ll be prompted with. Then based on your answers, here are some primary and secondary strategies that you might consider. From there you can set goals, barriers, and approvals. So it can be very simple, but it can also get very complicated.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that this ability to zoom in and out sounds great, as I used to get frustrated by one-size-fits-all documents back when I used to work in corporate - depending on the category, some things would be totally irrelevant. I like how common sense it is to remove or add levels of detail, so that things remain relevant. </span>
<h3><b>Industry uptake, the complexity sweet-spot, and wrapping up</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Patrick where he’s seeing the most interest, from an industry perspective.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that it’s early days, and he doesn’t have a lot of customers just yet, but his first customer was in wholesale. Lots of items, buying into warehouses and distributing from there. He now has two other customers - one of them being a global organisation for fast-moving consumer goods, and the other is a machinery production company. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are some industries he’s not touched yet, such as medicine. But he thinks he’s seeing confirmation that there’s a complexity and maturity sweet-spot where his tool is of most value. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask where Patrick sees the ROI with his tool? Is it simply better access to data? Or is it more around driving hard savings and delivering procurement targets?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that there’s research out there on category optimization projects and the kind of typical ROI they give. He thinks on average this is around 8.7% per project, but many companies don’t do these projects because they can’t identify where the bang for buck is. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If his tool allows customers to identify which of these projects are worth it, and it can deliver that 8.7% ROI, then it’s definitely worth it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that this is a pretty meaty chunk, especially as a hedge against some of the price increases that category managers might be facing in direct materials.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As a final question, I put Patrick on the spot by asking him to summarise his tool in one sentence.</span>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">On this podcast, I’m proud that we take the time to talk to some of the more early stage companies operating in this space. And you don’t get much more early stage than just launched! </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Our guest today is Patrick Jonsson from Digi Procure, whose recently launched company offers a low code / no code guided category strategy creation tool.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Patrick to the podcast and ask him to open up with a quick intro on his background.</span>
<h2><b>Low code / no solutions in digital procurement</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick explains how he doesn’t come from anything of a tech background. From his home in Sweden, he’s embarked on an international career - everywhere from South America to Denmark. The bulk career of this was in procurement for complex organisational setups: Lots of stakeholder management and getting different cultures to agree. Then about three years ago, he went into consulting, but then decided it was time to move into the digital procurement space. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He found low code/no code solutions really interesting, and so following a low budget, bootstrap approach he launched a minimum viable product with his first solution, which only cost around 2000 dollars. There were some issues with his first customers, but in solving those he fell on what seemed to be needed: A solution for guided category strategy creation. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Simplicity is Patrick’s keyword here. Digi Procure is a very simple tool that helps you get started with making category strategies. And with a low code platform, he aims to add further functionality and complexity over time.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say to Patrick that any SaaS solution will face the conundrum of functional complexity versus user experience. There’s not really a right or wrong answer here, and it can often come down to organisational maturity and complexity. I ask Patrick who he sees as the target users for Digi Procure. Is he aiming for large enterprises, or smaller businesses?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick thinks the answer is medium-sized and up. In his experience, many organisations struggle with making category strategies. You might get a consultant in and end up with a strategy that’s maybe 30-60 pages long, and these just end up on the shelf. Follow up on implementation might not ever get done. Then later you get a new CEO who wants to make some category strategies and you start the whole cycle again.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">So Patrick is aiming for what he calls  ‘maturity level 2’ companies. By this he means companies who are starting to dabble in strategic sourcing. You need that maturity and you need a certain size - maybe two or three category managers, before it makes sense to use Digi Procure.</span>
<h3><b>Simple and accessible early strategy for medium-sized companies </b><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that makes a lot of sense - we’re clearly not looking at greenfield here, as companies that young won’t have anything in place yet. But then the really big companies will probably want to go for that incredibly detailed kind of 60-page plan Patrick mentioned earlier. It’s really the medium-sized businesses that are just starting to dabble in category strategy who have the most to gain here.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick agrees. He goes on to say that you can go more complex, using Digi Procure, and he speaks to some experience with customers who have asked for deeper functionality. But that’s the great thing about low code / no code. It’s adaptable to an individual customer’s needs and particularities in a way that traditional SaaS solutions might struggle with.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There’s also a much lower entry barrier when it comes to price - it doesn’t cost much to experiment with the kind of solution that Patrick is offering, compared to more established platforms with their own internal app stores. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He aims to reach a point where he can use a huge repository of category strategy knowledge, and leverage that to help clients as quickly and responsively as possible.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I bring up another benefit here - category strategy isn’t something that requires an integration with existing ERP systems. It’s an activity that largely allows you to use a standalone piece of technology without having to integrate it into your existing stack.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick says that’s just it - there were a couple of reasons why he chose this area to work in. For one, he is passionate about category strategy, but this ease of integration was definitely a factor too. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The third reason he chose to do this is that he thinks it’s a good place to start, if you want your company to mature. Many organisations struggle to move from operational work to strategic and tactical work. So why not start with simply doing a category strategy, and using a digital format that gets everybody speaking the same language. This lays strong foundations for a company’s journey towards maturity.</span>
<h3><b>Playing devil’s advocate</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I play devil’s advocate and pitch a scenario to Patrick. Let’s say I’m a head of procurement at a medium sized business with a team of five or six category managers. The biggest push back I’m going to give you is that strategy management takes too much time, it’s an administrative box-ticking exercise, it’s hard to pull together because everyone’s data is different… Convince me that I’m wrong.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick laughs like someone who’s definitely heard all this before. He sees where this comes from, but this is what he’s trying to attack. As costly as it can be, he thinks that you need strategy or you don’t know where you’re going. Sometimes you need to step back, and yes - that could be a massive workload. But do you need to invest in some hugely elaborate foundation in regard to spend review, or do you simply need to start asking some basic questions like “where do we want to go?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He recommends that you should start somewhere, and that’s where a simple tool like Digi Procure can help. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that this is where he’s heard great feedback from clients. After even a basic coaching session in strategy they come back to him and say “wow that was really good”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Patrick how this might work for a high ticket commodity within a mid-market business where the spend is high. Let’s say it’s a critical service or expensive material. How long does it take to put a category strategy through the system, bearing in mind the challenges that mid-sized businesses typically face with bad data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Patrick says that if you want to go quite simple, his system could do one category in less than an hour. He explains that one of the selling points of his solution is customisation of complexity. You can set the level of detail you want, and that varies the depth of questions that you’ll be prompted with. Then based on your answers, here are some primary and secondary strategies that you might consider. From there you can set goals, barriers, and approvals. So it can be very simple, but it can also get very complicated.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that this ability to zoom in and out sounds great, as I used to get frustrated by one-size-fits-all documents back when I used to work in corporate - depending on the category, some things would be totally irrelevant. I like how common sense it is to remove or add levels of detail, so that things remain relevant. </span>
<h3><b>Industry uptake, the complexity sweet-spot, and wrapping up</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Patrick where he’s seeing the most interest, from an industry perspective.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that it’s early days, and he doesn’t have a lot of customers just yet, but his first customer was in wholesale. Lots of items, buying into warehouses and distributing from there. He now has two other customers - one of them being a global organisation for fast-moving consumer goods, and the other is a machinery production company. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There are some industries he’s not touched yet, such as medicine. But he thinks he’s seeing confirmation that there’s a complexity and maturity sweet-spot where his tool is of most value. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask where Patrick sees the ROI with his tool? Is it simply better access to data? Or is it more around driving hard savings and delivering procurement targets?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that there’s research out there on category optimization projects and the kind of typical ROI they give. He thinks on average this is around 8.7% per project, but many companies don’t do these projects because they can’t identify where the bang for buck is. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If his tool allows customers to identify which of these projects are worth it, and it can deliver that 8.7% ROI, then it’s definitely worth it.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that this is a pretty meaty chunk, especially as a hedge against some of the price increases that category managers might be facing in direct materials.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">As a final question, I put Patrick on the spot by asking him to summarise his tool in one sentence.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says: Category strategy optimization - get that 8.7%, why would you not do this?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">We laugh and conclude that, yes, that sums it up in a nutshell!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I wrap up the podcast by saying that Patrick’s tool is really interesting, particularly to companies who fall into its sweet spot in terms of complexity.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">If you’re battling with having a less mature procurement team, but have the desire to put some category strategy data in front of your board, I hope this has caught your interest.</span>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">85515646-27ef-4674-9eb5-cb6f66a2be98</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5676a999-2e67-472e-91d7-9d8fbba2a875/Procuretech-20ep-2042-20Patrick-20Jonsson.mp3" length="24624071" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Single Master Data Source of Truth – Costas Xyloyiannis from HICX</title><itunes:title>Single Master Data Source of Truth – Costas Xyloyiannis from HICX</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week, we're going to be talking again about that little devil that keeps cropping up - data. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I'm speaking to Costas Xyloyiannis, CEO of HICX, a company that takes a slightly different approach to data. Today we’re talking about what he thinks is the safest way to get clean data in your organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Before we dive into the specifics of what makes his approach to data so different, I start off by asking Costas to explain Hicx in a nutshell.</span>
<h2><b>HICX - A different way to handle data</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas explains that HICX is in the business of supplier experience management. Supplier experience, for Costas, equals data. The end state isn’t just that data - there are value drivers after that too - but data is the foundation of supplier experience management: Better data means better experience, and a better experience in turn yields better data. It’s a flywheel value effect for both sides.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask how this differs from other solutions that take the approach of automatically gathering data using scraping techniques or AI. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas gives a few differences here. Number one, what is the customer trying to solve? A lot of his customers want the right data in their systems. What you tend to find is that when you pull data out, clean it, change it, what you find is that you can never put it back into those systems. The data will have changed. So this is a very high risk, unsustainable approach. But this is the way most people have done it traditionally.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">HICX puts processes in place which control how data is entered into those systems. The supplier is the source of truth, so why not optimise the process of collecting data from suppliers? Only then does HICX apply automation to enrich that data.</span>
<h3><b>Customer experience and strategic sourcing </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Costas to clarify that he is using some degree of automation, but the fundamental difference is that he’s relying on the supplier to provide the core master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says this is correct. He then goes on to speak to customer demand. Customers need a very granular view of their suppliers. If you’re looking at, for example, a process around manufacturing that has to take place at your supplier’s facility, most other sources don’t explain the things customers want to know: What is the parent legal entity, for example? These factors change how data and business processes are managed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I bring up vendor master data. We often think about this wrongly: “What data do we need in the system to pay the supplier?”. But in something like manufacturing, food or automotive where you’ve got health and safety requirements that are important to the qualification process, there has to be some way of distinguishing the supplier experience and on-boarding process. If you’re using a tool that automatically cleanses data, it’s not going to know how strategically critical a supplier will be to you.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Costas agrees. He also says that context of how you use data is important. It could be the address of a supplier, it could be a payment address… When you’re cleansing you don’t know these things. Costas thinks that this is where customers need help: Who is the parent entity? Is this supplier part of the same legal entity? What is this address? How does it all fit together? This is what customers need to understand to a high degree of accuracy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to talk about the importance of being clear on your use case. If your use case is highly analytical, then using an outside source to cleanse your data makes sense, because your goal is to process a lot of data. If you actually want to change the data in your operational systems, this does not work. You need context to meaningfully make those changes. What does each data point mean to your organisation, and depending on context.</span>
<h3><b>The HICX Solution </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention HICX</span><span style="font-weight: 400">’s clients, who are largely enterprise-level organisations. If the suppliers are HICX’s source of truth, then what typically does Costas see from his customers when it comes to managing or changing things? If you have too many people involved in this process, do you get to a point where you’ve got incorrect entries? Is there a master data steward approach, or a centralised department in charge of what data gets entered into HICX? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says this is a great question. And that the key thing is that suppliers are very cross-functional. This is why supplier master data is harder than customer master data. Everyone touches suppliers in one way or another. Around data governance and ownership, you need to have a global centralised team - that’s just the efficient way to do it. How to see it is that the supplier owns the data. You’re just validating it. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But people want a lot of other information, environmental information, or other industry-specific needs. And what we’re seeing is people complementing this with “curated” data sources. Like Ecovadis, for example, they curate data for ESG.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">And this is cross-functional. This will then potentially go to a sustainability team or a health and safety team, or whatever applies for a specific industry’s needs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So customers are bringing the two together, they’re interested in driving their own processes, they want to do things cross functionally, and they want to use these curated sources when it makes sense.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if this makes HICX the single aggregator of all of that data in one single source of truth.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that it’s not just aggregation, but orchestration of the process across systems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It’s also about how data is implemented into workflow, and how data-driven workflow can contribute to overall efficiency.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if there’s a risk here that vendors might see HICX as just another platform that customers are asking them to use? Given how reliant HICX is on supplier data, how does Costas get vendors to input this master data?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks it comes down to context - first of all the supplier will have to supply this data to the customer. If they don’t have to do this manually through Excel or similar, you’re making things easier for them. There’s one place to go to for all their communications. You’re helping them navigate these systems, and that kind of accessible ease of use is already of value to suppliers.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Best-of-breeds versus full suite - where does HICX fit in? </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - having a single source from which to self serve is going to be a huge benefit. But then, the additional conundrum to that is “what do you do with the long tail?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask about how this plays with a platform-centric approach. Looking back on what Dr. Elouise Epstein had to say, and her model where one platform (usually a legacy suite) acts as the center of the procurement ‘spider diagram’ - does Costas think HICX could fill that role as a single source of truth that best-of-breeds then plug into?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says absolutely. He thinks Dr. Epstein would absolutely put HICX right there in the middle of that diagram. HICX connects the common thread between best-of-breeds, and differing company needs, which is the need to orchestrate processes. This relies on data in order to be efficiently automated.  Costas says that suites will not have the right information to do this. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that people forget where these suites and ERPs came from - these are largely transactional systems, used for orders, invoices and payments. So these systems focus on optimising the transaction. But where we are now, we’ve moved beyond the transactional. You need the right hierarchy of data and information, and the suite doesn’t deal with, for example, a parent entity or a manufacturing entity, or any of the things we were just talking about. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - if you put garbage data into a system, you’re going to get garbage out. It’s that nightmare scenario where you pay to run spend analytics and the biggest slice of the pie chart is “uncategorised”. We’ve all been there at some point in our careers!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Why don’t companies prioritise data, and what needs to change?</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We take a quick ad break, and once we’re back, I ask Costas if it’s lack of resources that’s part of the problem, or a lack of prioritisation when it comes to data?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that yes, historically procurement has not seen data as a priority. Focus on measuring success through savings means that data isn’t addressed until the problem is out of hand. Data solutions are no longer a nice-to-have, and now we’re seeing it prioritised more. But for years, bad data has been the main barrier to digitalisation in procurement. The penny has dropped, and the solutions on the market now are making it more feasible to invest in data.</span>

<span...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week, we're going to be talking again about that little devil that keeps cropping up - data. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I'm speaking to Costas Xyloyiannis, CEO of HICX, a company that takes a slightly different approach to data. Today we’re talking about what he thinks is the safest way to get clean data in your organisation.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Before we dive into the specifics of what makes his approach to data so different, I start off by asking Costas to explain Hicx in a nutshell.</span>
<h2><b>HICX - A different way to handle data</b></h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas explains that HICX is in the business of supplier experience management. Supplier experience, for Costas, equals data. The end state isn’t just that data - there are value drivers after that too - but data is the foundation of supplier experience management: Better data means better experience, and a better experience in turn yields better data. It’s a flywheel value effect for both sides.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask how this differs from other solutions that take the approach of automatically gathering data using scraping techniques or AI. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas gives a few differences here. Number one, what is the customer trying to solve? A lot of his customers want the right data in their systems. What you tend to find is that when you pull data out, clean it, change it, what you find is that you can never put it back into those systems. The data will have changed. So this is a very high risk, unsustainable approach. But this is the way most people have done it traditionally.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">HICX puts processes in place which control how data is entered into those systems. The supplier is the source of truth, so why not optimise the process of collecting data from suppliers? Only then does HICX apply automation to enrich that data.</span>
<h3><b>Customer experience and strategic sourcing </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Costas to clarify that he is using some degree of automation, but the fundamental difference is that he’s relying on the supplier to provide the core master data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says this is correct. He then goes on to speak to customer demand. Customers need a very granular view of their suppliers. If you’re looking at, for example, a process around manufacturing that has to take place at your supplier’s facility, most other sources don’t explain the things customers want to know: What is the parent legal entity, for example? These factors change how data and business processes are managed.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I bring up vendor master data. We often think about this wrongly: “What data do we need in the system to pay the supplier?”. But in something like manufacturing, food or automotive where you’ve got health and safety requirements that are important to the qualification process, there has to be some way of distinguishing the supplier experience and on-boarding process. If you’re using a tool that automatically cleanses data, it’s not going to know how strategically critical a supplier will be to you.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Costas agrees. He also says that context of how you use data is important. It could be the address of a supplier, it could be a payment address… When you’re cleansing you don’t know these things. Costas thinks that this is where customers need help: Who is the parent entity? Is this supplier part of the same legal entity? What is this address? How does it all fit together? This is what customers need to understand to a high degree of accuracy.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to talk about the importance of being clear on your use case. If your use case is highly analytical, then using an outside source to cleanse your data makes sense, because your goal is to process a lot of data. If you actually want to change the data in your operational systems, this does not work. You need context to meaningfully make those changes. What does each data point mean to your organisation, and depending on context.</span>
<h3><b>The HICX Solution </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention HICX</span><span style="font-weight: 400">’s clients, who are largely enterprise-level organisations. If the suppliers are HICX’s source of truth, then what typically does Costas see from his customers when it comes to managing or changing things? If you have too many people involved in this process, do you get to a point where you’ve got incorrect entries? Is there a master data steward approach, or a centralised department in charge of what data gets entered into HICX? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says this is a great question. And that the key thing is that suppliers are very cross-functional. This is why supplier master data is harder than customer master data. Everyone touches suppliers in one way or another. Around data governance and ownership, you need to have a global centralised team - that’s just the efficient way to do it. How to see it is that the supplier owns the data. You’re just validating it. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But people want a lot of other information, environmental information, or other industry-specific needs. And what we’re seeing is people complementing this with “curated” data sources. Like Ecovadis, for example, they curate data for ESG.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">And this is cross-functional. This will then potentially go to a sustainability team or a health and safety team, or whatever applies for a specific industry’s needs.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">So customers are bringing the two together, they’re interested in driving their own processes, they want to do things cross functionally, and they want to use these curated sources when it makes sense.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if this makes HICX the single aggregator of all of that data in one single source of truth.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that it’s not just aggregation, but orchestration of the process across systems.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It’s also about how data is implemented into workflow, and how data-driven workflow can contribute to overall efficiency.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if there’s a risk here that vendors might see HICX as just another platform that customers are asking them to use? Given how reliant HICX is on supplier data, how does Costas get vendors to input this master data?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He thinks it comes down to context - first of all the supplier will have to supply this data to the customer. If they don’t have to do this manually through Excel or similar, you’re making things easier for them. There’s one place to go to for all their communications. You’re helping them navigate these systems, and that kind of accessible ease of use is already of value to suppliers.</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Best-of-breeds versus full suite - where does HICX fit in? </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - having a single source from which to self serve is going to be a huge benefit. But then, the additional conundrum to that is “what do you do with the long tail?”.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask about how this plays with a platform-centric approach. Looking back on what Dr. Elouise Epstein had to say, and her model where one platform (usually a legacy suite) acts as the center of the procurement ‘spider diagram’ - does Costas think HICX could fill that role as a single source of truth that best-of-breeds then plug into?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says absolutely. He thinks Dr. Epstein would absolutely put HICX right there in the middle of that diagram. HICX connects the common thread between best-of-breeds, and differing company needs, which is the need to orchestrate processes. This relies on data in order to be efficiently automated.  Costas says that suites will not have the right information to do this. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that people forget where these suites and ERPs came from - these are largely transactional systems, used for orders, invoices and payments. So these systems focus on optimising the transaction. But where we are now, we’ve moved beyond the transactional. You need the right hierarchy of data and information, and the suite doesn’t deal with, for example, a parent entity or a manufacturing entity, or any of the things we were just talking about. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree - if you put garbage data into a system, you’re going to get garbage out. It’s that nightmare scenario where you pay to run spend analytics and the biggest slice of the pie chart is “uncategorised”. We’ve all been there at some point in our careers!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Why don’t companies prioritise data, and what needs to change?</b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">We take a quick ad break, and once we’re back, I ask Costas if it’s lack of resources that’s part of the problem, or a lack of prioritisation when it comes to data?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that yes, historically procurement has not seen data as a priority. Focus on measuring success through savings means that data isn’t addressed until the problem is out of hand. Data solutions are no longer a nice-to-have, and now we’re seeing it prioritised more. But for years, bad data has been the main barrier to digitalisation in procurement. The penny has dropped, and the solutions on the market now are making it more feasible to invest in data.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask if Costas still sees a reluctance to invest in data. CFOs tend not to think long term, especially if they’re having to report results by the year or even the quarter. If this short term thinking is so prevalent, and the ROI on data investment is so longterm, is the worm starting to turn?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that there are savings to be gained from proper data management, and especially when you make data gathering a part of your on-boarding process. When you put it in that context, there are huge savings to be made when it comes to efficiency gain. It’s about how progressively organisations are willing to think. In some of Costas’ use cases, he’s seen companies remove seventeen full time equivalents in data management. </span>

&nbsp;
<h3><b>Data problems for smaller businesses, and wrapping up the podcast </b></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that being able to move people onto more value added tasks definitely generates savings. And before closing out the podcast, I ask Costas about the difference between enterprise-scale data problems, and the data problems that could face a small to medium sized business.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Costas says that, when a company is small, chances are that their challenges will be small. But as volumes and systems grow, you need more information, more analytics, and new kinds of insights. When you’re small, you might have enough data to derive useful insights, but you still need orchestration, especially if you’re going to grow in future. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Even small companies should start with discipline around data, so that problems don’t sneak up on as a sudden and huge issue down the line. If you don’t act, these things can snowball quickly.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I finish off the podcast, not just by asking where you can find Costas, but also with a cheeky plug for his own podcast, where I myself have been a guest. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">You can find all the relevant links below, so be sure to check it out!</span>

&nbsp;
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/costasx/">Connect with Costas Xyloyiannis on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.hicx.com/">Visit HICX website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9670a875-c22a-4c9a-a5dc-163f524facc7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/65369483-0feb-4e08-a63b-6ab240aff0c0/Procuretech-20ep-2041-20Costas-20Xylioiannis.mp3" length="28520287" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procuretech Pub: S2P Tips with Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</title><itunes:title>Procuretech Pub: S2P Tips with Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on the Procuretech podcast, I’m joined by Source-to-Pay (S2P) and implementation specialist Joël Collin-Demers, all the way from Montreal.
<h2>Source-to-Pay today – Market trends, Roadmaps, and Best-of-Breed vs. Full Suite</h2>
Today we’ll be talking about the dynamics of the source-to-pay application market, how to craft a transformation roadmap in that space, and where we see this market going in the future. But before that, I ask Joël to introduce himself.

Once he’s given us some fascinating insights into his favourite vegetable (it’s eggplant, if you were curious), Joël goes on to speak about his twelve years of experience in the procurement space.

He started off his career working for IBM, working on implementing procurement modules. He then progressed to implementing for direct and indirect materials, and looking specifically at source-to-pay applications that sit on top of ERP.

For the last three years he’s been running his own independent consultancy, addressing exactly the kind of issues we’ll be talking about today.
<h3>"Sauce"-to-Pay</h3>
Joël mentions the classic ‘pasta sauce’ metaphor for consumer choice: There was a time when there were only two or three kinds of pasta sauce on the shelf, and no-one felt bad about their decisions. Nowadays, breadth of choice creates option paralysis - it’s almost impossible to know if what you’re buying is really the best deal out there.

I point out that twelve years ago (2010) would’ve been around the time that Ariba, Coupa, Jaggaer - all the big suites - were just starting to mature and come onto the market. I ask Joël to talk about what it was like at this time, when all-in-one suites were hugely in vogue.

He mentions SAP purchasing Ariba in 2012. For a while they didn’t do anything with it, but over time they integrated. Adoption in the market for these big suites really didn’t begin until a little later, maybe 2015 - at least from what Joël saw in the Canadian market.

Many providers in this time were trying to buy up smaller solutions so that they could offer full suites covering the full procurement process.
<h3>Developing bespoke applications in-house. Is it worth it?</h3>
I bring up contract management and SRM, along with newer concepts like KYS. Going back to Joël’s “pasta sauce” analogy. I put it to him that I actually make my own pasta sauce - which, jokes aside, leads me on to asking if there’s any sense to companies building their own SAP tool.

Cearly this isn’t viable for mid market businesses, but at the enterprise level, does it pay off to build things from scratch. What are the pros and cons here?

Joël says that sometimes you need to make your own pasta sauce - on the shelf solutions might not fit your exact needs. Despite this, he’s never quite seen anyone build out their own application, in his twelve years of experience. But what he does see, is large amounts of customisation, or enterprises building out their own little bits of functionality that a core suite may be lacking.

He compares it to a pyramid. ERP is at the base, this connects to other functions, then you add applications for specific use cases to build on top of that, then you may go and get specific applications for one specific vertical.

If you can’t find something cost-effective on the market, this is when it pays to build things yourself. I ask if this is still a viable strategy now. Looking at Ariba and Coupa, and their app stores full of best-of-breeds that can be easily integrated, does this diminish the case for building an in-house app?

Joël thinks so. He expects to see a funnelling down of use-cases where building your own app will be a viable strategy. Niche spaces are being increasingly served. But then again, there are always gaps to fill. Niche apps are still being developed, and not every niche has been colonised just yet.
<h3>ERP, Data, and Single Source of Truth</h3>
I ask Joël if we still need all-in-one suites to provide a single source of truth. Is he seeing a move away from the suite-based approach, towards people using something like TealBook as somewhere to store their supplier data, contracts, and so forth, then P2P can be a separate tool that fits into that..?

He says that he has started to see this, but it depends what kind of data you’re dealing with. The vendor master is important. Single source of truth needs to be thought of, as you craft a roadmap. But it also comes down to cost - what is the maturity of your organisation? How much spend do you have?

All of these applications cost. Joël thinks that plugging in a large number of best of breeds is a perfect solution - if you don’t have financial constraints. But most companies do!

If you’re making decisions from this position and having to make trade-offs, then data needs to be a priority. But you might choose to handle this in different ways depending on your specific needs. For example, if you only have a couple of thousand vendors, versus ten of thousands, you’re going to prioritise differently. You might choose to support an ERP vendor master data process with a smaller MDM suite.

But you’re always going to have a tug and pull between ‘purist’, IT-driven applications, versus function-specific applications like TealBook. It’s an ongoing conversation within the business, and ultimately, this all comes back to cost.
<h3>How would Joël advise somebody making these decisions today?</h3>
I ask Joël what he’s seeing today - if someone came to him and asked for advice on full suite versus best of breed, how would he advise them?

Joël says there are two aspects to consider here - how do you approach the market, and how do you ensure you know your own business?

He explains that his answer would differ based on the business’s spend profile. If you’re 100% indirect and you don’t do any production, then that’s a different story to a business with a heavy lean towards manufacture and parts.

It’s important to have a solid understanding of your ‘as is’. Make sure to go around the different functional teams and get a clear picture of your business. Potentially consider geographies, the different teams you may have, and be sure you’re addressing that in terms of spend. You want to address the big pieces, then craft your vision on an end-state.

He advises asking yourself: What are we going to do for spend analysis? For sourcing? for procure-to-pay? For SRM? What are the constraints here?

From there, you want to share that vision - go back to your stakeholders and get feedback on it. All of this is agnostic of technology. You’re really asking ‘what is important?’ and ‘what do we need?’.

I bring up contract management as an example. There are loads of CLM products out there, but none of them seem to offer DocuSign or AdobeSign functionality for sign-offs. If this is something you think you’ll need, this is where you need integrations.

Joël agrees that these are the things you’ll need to consider. How does this kind of functionality fit into your CLM strategy?. Are you using internal or external templates? You need answers to these questions, before you can fully craft a strategy.

I summarise then, that if you want advanced CLM functionality, you’re going to have to look to a best-of-breed. Ultimately this is the difference between a “jack of all trades” and something that’s trying to be a world-beating solution to a very specific problem.
<h3>Let’s talk about sourcing</h3>
I ask Joël, in terms of the state of the market today, are the sourcing modules that come integrated out of the box with the bigger suites more focused on strategic sourcing and complex tenders, or more focused around tail spend and bringing operational sourcing into a single source of truth?

Does it tend to skew one way, or does it depend on the solution?

Joël says it very much depends on the solution - which is why it’s essential to consider your specific needs. Is your business more on the complex side, or not? What he sees in the market today, is that everyone is picking their own verticals and categories and choosing to specialise within a niche. Knowing your profile is essential before you go out looking for solutions.

Joël comes back to his central point - that it’s crucial to have a technology-agnostic end state in mind.

What do you want? What do you need? This is going to impact the functionality that you’re looking for. Where do you need deep functionality, and where can we live with functionality that’s more basic and out-of-the-box?

Going to market, yes you can look at the Gartners of this world, but Joël feels their scope is quite small. He’d recommend going to places like Spend Matters, or indeed ProcurementSoftware.site and searching for the keywords in functionality that matter to you.

Get a sense of what the best-of-breeds are offering in your space, educate yourself on the jargon specific to your niche needs, know what’s out there, then you can compare that to the functionality offered by your full suite options.

You don’t need to see every application, but you’ll get quite a sense of what’s possible quickly and can then move from there.

I thank Joël for his very in-depth answer and agree that ultimately knowledge is power.

It pays to know what’s out there.

Joël has an additional point about applications talking to each other. That’s an important issue that we may not be alerted to as procurement professionals: What other integration methods are there for this tool with other tools? What’s the degree of integration available? And functionally, how does it integrate - for example, can you align language used across tools?

A system may be seemingly well integrated in terms of the technology, but if you and your stakeholders are having to use different words for the same things, it won’t feel very integrated at all.
<h3>Supplier Relationship Management (SRM)</h3>
I move us onto talking about SRM, and how this]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on the Procuretech podcast, I’m joined by Source-to-Pay (S2P) and implementation specialist Joël Collin-Demers, all the way from Montreal.
<h2>Source-to-Pay today – Market trends, Roadmaps, and Best-of-Breed vs. Full Suite</h2>
Today we’ll be talking about the dynamics of the source-to-pay application market, how to craft a transformation roadmap in that space, and where we see this market going in the future. But before that, I ask Joël to introduce himself.

Once he’s given us some fascinating insights into his favourite vegetable (it’s eggplant, if you were curious), Joël goes on to speak about his twelve years of experience in the procurement space.

He started off his career working for IBM, working on implementing procurement modules. He then progressed to implementing for direct and indirect materials, and looking specifically at source-to-pay applications that sit on top of ERP.

For the last three years he’s been running his own independent consultancy, addressing exactly the kind of issues we’ll be talking about today.
<h3>"Sauce"-to-Pay</h3>
Joël mentions the classic ‘pasta sauce’ metaphor for consumer choice: There was a time when there were only two or three kinds of pasta sauce on the shelf, and no-one felt bad about their decisions. Nowadays, breadth of choice creates option paralysis - it’s almost impossible to know if what you’re buying is really the best deal out there.

I point out that twelve years ago (2010) would’ve been around the time that Ariba, Coupa, Jaggaer - all the big suites - were just starting to mature and come onto the market. I ask Joël to talk about what it was like at this time, when all-in-one suites were hugely in vogue.

He mentions SAP purchasing Ariba in 2012. For a while they didn’t do anything with it, but over time they integrated. Adoption in the market for these big suites really didn’t begin until a little later, maybe 2015 - at least from what Joël saw in the Canadian market.

Many providers in this time were trying to buy up smaller solutions so that they could offer full suites covering the full procurement process.
<h3>Developing bespoke applications in-house. Is it worth it?</h3>
I bring up contract management and SRM, along with newer concepts like KYS. Going back to Joël’s “pasta sauce” analogy. I put it to him that I actually make my own pasta sauce - which, jokes aside, leads me on to asking if there’s any sense to companies building their own SAP tool.

Cearly this isn’t viable for mid market businesses, but at the enterprise level, does it pay off to build things from scratch. What are the pros and cons here?

Joël says that sometimes you need to make your own pasta sauce - on the shelf solutions might not fit your exact needs. Despite this, he’s never quite seen anyone build out their own application, in his twelve years of experience. But what he does see, is large amounts of customisation, or enterprises building out their own little bits of functionality that a core suite may be lacking.

He compares it to a pyramid. ERP is at the base, this connects to other functions, then you add applications for specific use cases to build on top of that, then you may go and get specific applications for one specific vertical.

If you can’t find something cost-effective on the market, this is when it pays to build things yourself. I ask if this is still a viable strategy now. Looking at Ariba and Coupa, and their app stores full of best-of-breeds that can be easily integrated, does this diminish the case for building an in-house app?

Joël thinks so. He expects to see a funnelling down of use-cases where building your own app will be a viable strategy. Niche spaces are being increasingly served. But then again, there are always gaps to fill. Niche apps are still being developed, and not every niche has been colonised just yet.
<h3>ERP, Data, and Single Source of Truth</h3>
I ask Joël if we still need all-in-one suites to provide a single source of truth. Is he seeing a move away from the suite-based approach, towards people using something like TealBook as somewhere to store their supplier data, contracts, and so forth, then P2P can be a separate tool that fits into that..?

He says that he has started to see this, but it depends what kind of data you’re dealing with. The vendor master is important. Single source of truth needs to be thought of, as you craft a roadmap. But it also comes down to cost - what is the maturity of your organisation? How much spend do you have?

All of these applications cost. Joël thinks that plugging in a large number of best of breeds is a perfect solution - if you don’t have financial constraints. But most companies do!

If you’re making decisions from this position and having to make trade-offs, then data needs to be a priority. But you might choose to handle this in different ways depending on your specific needs. For example, if you only have a couple of thousand vendors, versus ten of thousands, you’re going to prioritise differently. You might choose to support an ERP vendor master data process with a smaller MDM suite.

But you’re always going to have a tug and pull between ‘purist’, IT-driven applications, versus function-specific applications like TealBook. It’s an ongoing conversation within the business, and ultimately, this all comes back to cost.
<h3>How would Joël advise somebody making these decisions today?</h3>
I ask Joël what he’s seeing today - if someone came to him and asked for advice on full suite versus best of breed, how would he advise them?

Joël says there are two aspects to consider here - how do you approach the market, and how do you ensure you know your own business?

He explains that his answer would differ based on the business’s spend profile. If you’re 100% indirect and you don’t do any production, then that’s a different story to a business with a heavy lean towards manufacture and parts.

It’s important to have a solid understanding of your ‘as is’. Make sure to go around the different functional teams and get a clear picture of your business. Potentially consider geographies, the different teams you may have, and be sure you’re addressing that in terms of spend. You want to address the big pieces, then craft your vision on an end-state.

He advises asking yourself: What are we going to do for spend analysis? For sourcing? for procure-to-pay? For SRM? What are the constraints here?

From there, you want to share that vision - go back to your stakeholders and get feedback on it. All of this is agnostic of technology. You’re really asking ‘what is important?’ and ‘what do we need?’.

I bring up contract management as an example. There are loads of CLM products out there, but none of them seem to offer DocuSign or AdobeSign functionality for sign-offs. If this is something you think you’ll need, this is where you need integrations.

Joël agrees that these are the things you’ll need to consider. How does this kind of functionality fit into your CLM strategy?. Are you using internal or external templates? You need answers to these questions, before you can fully craft a strategy.

I summarise then, that if you want advanced CLM functionality, you’re going to have to look to a best-of-breed. Ultimately this is the difference between a “jack of all trades” and something that’s trying to be a world-beating solution to a very specific problem.
<h3>Let’s talk about sourcing</h3>
I ask Joël, in terms of the state of the market today, are the sourcing modules that come integrated out of the box with the bigger suites more focused on strategic sourcing and complex tenders, or more focused around tail spend and bringing operational sourcing into a single source of truth?

Does it tend to skew one way, or does it depend on the solution?

Joël says it very much depends on the solution - which is why it’s essential to consider your specific needs. Is your business more on the complex side, or not? What he sees in the market today, is that everyone is picking their own verticals and categories and choosing to specialise within a niche. Knowing your profile is essential before you go out looking for solutions.

Joël comes back to his central point - that it’s crucial to have a technology-agnostic end state in mind.

What do you want? What do you need? This is going to impact the functionality that you’re looking for. Where do you need deep functionality, and where can we live with functionality that’s more basic and out-of-the-box?

Going to market, yes you can look at the Gartners of this world, but Joël feels their scope is quite small. He’d recommend going to places like Spend Matters, or indeed ProcurementSoftware.site and searching for the keywords in functionality that matter to you.

Get a sense of what the best-of-breeds are offering in your space, educate yourself on the jargon specific to your niche needs, know what’s out there, then you can compare that to the functionality offered by your full suite options.

You don’t need to see every application, but you’ll get quite a sense of what’s possible quickly and can then move from there.

I thank Joël for his very in-depth answer and agree that ultimately knowledge is power.

It pays to know what’s out there.

Joël has an additional point about applications talking to each other. That’s an important issue that we may not be alerted to as procurement professionals: What other integration methods are there for this tool with other tools? What’s the degree of integration available? And functionally, how does it integrate - for example, can you align language used across tools?

A system may be seemingly well integrated in terms of the technology, but if you and your stakeholders are having to use different words for the same things, it won’t feel very integrated at all.
<h3>Supplier Relationship Management (SRM)</h3>
I move us onto talking about SRM, and how this plays out for both best of breeds and full suites.

I ask Joël to what extent he would recommend a full suite, or would a company working in highly regulated industries -for example, automotive or food and beverages - need a best of breed to manage their SRM needs.

Joël thinks they’ll eventually come to the realisation that they need SRM. The consideration with SRM is that this is the base of everything else - having a strong supplier relationship model is critical. If you’re going to spend a lot of money on a vertical, this one has ramifications on everything else, so he’d strongly recommend that it’s worth the cost.

If you don’t give thought to these use-case issues at the beginning then you can find yourself tied up in complications down the line and creating a lot of extra manual work.

I agree that it’s a “necessary evil” to spend money on a best-of-breed, here.

Joël goes on to give some further examples of areas where best of breeds are the way to go here. He brings up Stephany at TealBook’s analogy that this should work like contacts in your phone. You pick up a new phone (meaning application), you go on your contacts and everything gets uploaded automatically - that’s the dream for suppliers.

However, this is never really the case. Each application handles suppliers differently - leading to manual work. So this is why having that data management piece in place can provide real value. Some applications will do this better than others. And flexibility in master data is hugely important, so it can change to fit your evolving application landscape.
<h3>Managing P2P outside of ERP</h3>
I ask Joël if he’s ever implemented for a client that manages P2P outside of their ERP system that then punches that back into whatever solution they’re using to pay invoices - bypassing something like SAP or Oracle completely, and having a stand-alone tool transfer data back to financial?

Joël says that he has, and that the correct spend profile to fit is when your spend is 100% indirect. If you don’t have any materials or inventory management then you can look at this kind of setup.

When you have any sort of inventory management, that’s when you need to look more closely, and when this kind of strategy doesn’t work so well.

It’s not to say this <strong><em>couldn’t</em></strong> work - indeed, this is what Joël finds really interesting. Each business is different.

As much as consultants seem to love saying “that depends”, sometimes it really does.

Joël brings up the Dunning-Kruger effect - whereby people feel like experts after doing only minimal reading on a topic, but then the more they learn, the less qualified they feel. To be a true expert in a field, it’s going to take a while.

We compare our own specialties - Joël in implementation, and myself in knowing the market at a holistic level. We wouldn’t be able to do each other’s jobs, and nor should we.

Pressures of budget and timeline can lead us to overestimate what we’re able to digest. We feel like we (and our teams) can become experts overnight, but we should really plan for change to take a long time. Implement something once, take six months to let your users get used to it, then come back and - without re-implementing - optimise.

It takes time to bring any change to full fruition, and all too often companies will replace a suite, or move on to a new solution, before they’ve truly given their first purchase time to properly imbed. These solutions are expensive and you should take time to wring all the value out of them that you can.
<h3>Time to implementation</h3>
Speaking of time, some applications boast implementation in a day, whereas I’ve heard stories of some big suites taking years. I ask Joël about his experience when it comes to implementation and time, and if this differs between suites and best-of-breeds.

He says that when it comes to similar data requirements, you’re going to be looking at similar implementation times regardless of the application you choose. He comes back to his previous point on overestimating how quickly we adapt to change, and this is often the big factor when it comes to implementation time.

He’s typically seen upstream modules like sourcing and contract management take around two to four months, as a realistic timeframe. But then there’s a long process after that of optimising - making sure everyone’s using it, and managing that change across each of your locations.

P2P, he’s seen take even longer - often six to nine months, because it’s so complex in terms of vendor data. Integration is always the most complex step.
<ul>
 	<li>What are you integrating into?</li>
 	<li>Is there middleware?</li>
 	<li>Should there be?</li>
</ul><br/>
This is always where you’re going to run into the most complex questions, and require the most expertise when it comes to end-to-end data flow.
<h3>Wrapping things up</h3>
I draw this week’s visit to the procurement pub to a close, thank Joël for his time today.
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcollindemers/">Connect with Joël Collin-Demers on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.pureprocurement.ca/">Visit Pure Procurement website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f1551a85-9dab-4c93-8eaa-4f1ac152c06b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e3e433d9-1b3b-4066-932d-c6803a12c0c3/Procuretech-20ep-2040-20Jo-l-20Collin-Demers.mp3" length="45148376" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>10 Key Criteria to Consider when Buying Procurement Tech</title><itunes:title>10 Key Criteria to Consider when Buying Procurement Tech</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week we’re doing something a little bit different: A quick solo episode, bringing you ten key criteria to consider when sourcing a digital procurement solution.

This is something that seems surprisingly hard to come by in popular articles and white papers, so here are ten helpful factors to consider.

Let’s dive into the list…
<h2>10 Key Factors When Choosing A Procurement Solution</h2>
<h3>1. Cost</h3>
The main question here is which cost model does the solution use?

Most digital procurement tools operate a Saas (software as a service model). These will either charge you an annual or monthly fee for unlimited users, or on a per-user basis. Some solutions offer a hybrid approach somewhere between these two, or use a more modular structure.

Per-user pricing gets expensive very quickly if you need to keep adding users. You may sign up to something like this, thinking that it’s affordable, but then scale up to a point where the fees get out of hand. For established businesses this is obviously less of a concern.
<h3>2. Features</h3>
I’m particularly talking about best of breeds here, rather than legacy suites. Less is more is the key thing here - do you want it to do one thing very well, or would you like something more versatile that offers a modular structure you can expand over time?

If you’re laser focused on a specific problem, for example contract management, or supplier relationship management, you’ll want something that can do the job well. But these focused solutions obviously lack flexibility. A more versatile, modular solution can expand as your business does.

It’s important to consider this with your end goal in mind - what do you want to get out of the software, and what will your needs look like down the line?
<h3>3. Implementation</h3>
How much time and resources will it take to implement a solution? Some of the bigger suites can take months to implement, not to mention an army of consultants in some cases!

If you’re a mid market business with a limited amount of IT resources, then you need to be asking providers to give you estimates on the time and ease of implementation.

How easy is it to connect to your existing systems, for example ERP? How open is the interface?

Most modern best of breed solutions have APIs which should facilitate implementation, but be aware that ERP systems - especially older ones - may not have the kind of open ecosystem that modern tools have.

If your solution is trying to communicate with these older ERP systems, then be sure to ask about this up front.

Maybe ask for case studies to see how this integration works in real terms before you commit.
<h3>4. User Experience</h3>
How easy is it to use - For you, for your stakeholders, and for your procurement practitioners?

I’ve been in situations in my career where I’ve been given tools so complicated that even experienced procurement professionals don’t use them!

If a tool creates extra work for your procurement team, or your suppliers, it might fall by the wayside.

You want users to adopt new tech, and you want them to enjoy using it. If a tool becomes something users want to avoid, it’s not a fantastic tool in the first place.

User experience is an often-overlooked factor, but I think it’s crucially important.

Try to get a demo, or prior access before buying a piece of software - and try to check out how easy to use and accessible the key features for your business are.
<h3>5. Customer Support</h3>
This is especially important with startups, who may not have 24/7 customer support. If you’re in a different time zone, trying to get hold of a company who don’t have an external customer support team, you could be waiting a while to resolve your problem!

Try to get a picture of exactly what customer support is on offer.

Do they have their own employees? Will they give you a dedicated customer success team member as a point of contact? Or, what if it’s the worst case scenario of a ticket system run by an external company?
<h3>6. Security</h3>
This is another one that’s often overlooked.

I have to be honest here, I don’t have the most comprehensive understanding of modern cyber security certification. But speak to your IT people and familiarise yourself with what’s contained within ISO20071 - the international standard on how to manage information security.

Make sure that these criteria are part of your scoring process, because as time goes on, I think that protecting ourselves against cyber security risks is going to be increasingly important.
<h3>7. Maturity</h3>
There are no right or wrong answers here - you may want to work with a fairly young company so that you can grow with them and shape your relationship together, but of course this could lead to more technical issues and teething problems.

You may favour an older solution, but obviously the trade-off here is reliability in exchange for flexibility and customisation.

It really depends on what's best for your unique business philosophy, but it’s still something well worth taking a stance on as a strategic consideration, before you go out to tender.
<h3>8. Integration with external providers</h3>
This one is becoming increasingly important in a best of breed or hybrid ecosystem. Even the big suites don’t do everything a procurement pro needs, so you may well find yourself needing to integrate other software.

I think the partnership and alliance space, alongside best of breed, is something we’re going to see more and more of in the coming years.

Ask your provider(s) who their software speaks with easily, who they’re partnered with, and which options for integration and expansion are easily available. Having a clear roadmap in mind of how you can combine and partner solutions is key.
<h3>Startups and Growing Companies</h3>
Numbers nine and ten might not apply to everyone. These points are more relevant to those working with startups, or companies that are still growing.
<h3>9. Is the provider profitable?</h3>
…Or are they completely dependent on venture capital as their source of investment?

We’re heading into some strong economic headwinds right now, so we can take a guess that venture money may dry up a little in the months and years to come.

I’m still optimistic that the amount of opportunity in the digital procurement space means that we’ll see growth, regardless of these challenges. But any company that’s effectively on venture capital life support, might not be the best partner long term as we enter yet more uncertain times, globally and economically.

Look at the figures: How many employees do they have? When were they founded, and how quickly have they grown?

You want to understand if they’re prioritising growth over everything else, or if they’re growing organically due to their quality.
<h3>10. How valuable is your organisation to them?</h3>
By this I’m particularly referring to companies that use AI and machine learning. AI systems need data, and they need training. You provide value to AI providers - especially young ones who need to feed more data to their AI.

This means you have value, and you should absolutely keep that in your pocket as a negotiating tool.
<h3>But what do you think?</h3>
What have I missed out? Are some of these points more important than others?

Get in touch to let me know your thoughts, thanks for listening, and don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week we’re doing something a little bit different: A quick solo episode, bringing you ten key criteria to consider when sourcing a digital procurement solution.

This is something that seems surprisingly hard to come by in popular articles and white papers, so here are ten helpful factors to consider.

Let’s dive into the list…
<h2>10 Key Factors When Choosing A Procurement Solution</h2>
<h3>1. Cost</h3>
The main question here is which cost model does the solution use?

Most digital procurement tools operate a Saas (software as a service model). These will either charge you an annual or monthly fee for unlimited users, or on a per-user basis. Some solutions offer a hybrid approach somewhere between these two, or use a more modular structure.

Per-user pricing gets expensive very quickly if you need to keep adding users. You may sign up to something like this, thinking that it’s affordable, but then scale up to a point where the fees get out of hand. For established businesses this is obviously less of a concern.
<h3>2. Features</h3>
I’m particularly talking about best of breeds here, rather than legacy suites. Less is more is the key thing here - do you want it to do one thing very well, or would you like something more versatile that offers a modular structure you can expand over time?

If you’re laser focused on a specific problem, for example contract management, or supplier relationship management, you’ll want something that can do the job well. But these focused solutions obviously lack flexibility. A more versatile, modular solution can expand as your business does.

It’s important to consider this with your end goal in mind - what do you want to get out of the software, and what will your needs look like down the line?
<h3>3. Implementation</h3>
How much time and resources will it take to implement a solution? Some of the bigger suites can take months to implement, not to mention an army of consultants in some cases!

If you’re a mid market business with a limited amount of IT resources, then you need to be asking providers to give you estimates on the time and ease of implementation.

How easy is it to connect to your existing systems, for example ERP? How open is the interface?

Most modern best of breed solutions have APIs which should facilitate implementation, but be aware that ERP systems - especially older ones - may not have the kind of open ecosystem that modern tools have.

If your solution is trying to communicate with these older ERP systems, then be sure to ask about this up front.

Maybe ask for case studies to see how this integration works in real terms before you commit.
<h3>4. User Experience</h3>
How easy is it to use - For you, for your stakeholders, and for your procurement practitioners?

I’ve been in situations in my career where I’ve been given tools so complicated that even experienced procurement professionals don’t use them!

If a tool creates extra work for your procurement team, or your suppliers, it might fall by the wayside.

You want users to adopt new tech, and you want them to enjoy using it. If a tool becomes something users want to avoid, it’s not a fantastic tool in the first place.

User experience is an often-overlooked factor, but I think it’s crucially important.

Try to get a demo, or prior access before buying a piece of software - and try to check out how easy to use and accessible the key features for your business are.
<h3>5. Customer Support</h3>
This is especially important with startups, who may not have 24/7 customer support. If you’re in a different time zone, trying to get hold of a company who don’t have an external customer support team, you could be waiting a while to resolve your problem!

Try to get a picture of exactly what customer support is on offer.

Do they have their own employees? Will they give you a dedicated customer success team member as a point of contact? Or, what if it’s the worst case scenario of a ticket system run by an external company?
<h3>6. Security</h3>
This is another one that’s often overlooked.

I have to be honest here, I don’t have the most comprehensive understanding of modern cyber security certification. But speak to your IT people and familiarise yourself with what’s contained within ISO20071 - the international standard on how to manage information security.

Make sure that these criteria are part of your scoring process, because as time goes on, I think that protecting ourselves against cyber security risks is going to be increasingly important.
<h3>7. Maturity</h3>
There are no right or wrong answers here - you may want to work with a fairly young company so that you can grow with them and shape your relationship together, but of course this could lead to more technical issues and teething problems.

You may favour an older solution, but obviously the trade-off here is reliability in exchange for flexibility and customisation.

It really depends on what's best for your unique business philosophy, but it’s still something well worth taking a stance on as a strategic consideration, before you go out to tender.
<h3>8. Integration with external providers</h3>
This one is becoming increasingly important in a best of breed or hybrid ecosystem. Even the big suites don’t do everything a procurement pro needs, so you may well find yourself needing to integrate other software.

I think the partnership and alliance space, alongside best of breed, is something we’re going to see more and more of in the coming years.

Ask your provider(s) who their software speaks with easily, who they’re partnered with, and which options for integration and expansion are easily available. Having a clear roadmap in mind of how you can combine and partner solutions is key.
<h3>Startups and Growing Companies</h3>
Numbers nine and ten might not apply to everyone. These points are more relevant to those working with startups, or companies that are still growing.
<h3>9. Is the provider profitable?</h3>
…Or are they completely dependent on venture capital as their source of investment?

We’re heading into some strong economic headwinds right now, so we can take a guess that venture money may dry up a little in the months and years to come.

I’m still optimistic that the amount of opportunity in the digital procurement space means that we’ll see growth, regardless of these challenges. But any company that’s effectively on venture capital life support, might not be the best partner long term as we enter yet more uncertain times, globally and economically.

Look at the figures: How many employees do they have? When were they founded, and how quickly have they grown?

You want to understand if they’re prioritising growth over everything else, or if they’re growing organically due to their quality.
<h3>10. How valuable is your organisation to them?</h3>
By this I’m particularly referring to companies that use AI and machine learning. AI systems need data, and they need training. You provide value to AI providers - especially young ones who need to feed more data to their AI.

This means you have value, and you should absolutely keep that in your pocket as a negotiating tool.
<h3>But what do you think?</h3>
What have I missed out? Are some of these points more important than others?

Get in touch to let me know your thoughts, thanks for listening, and don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7fa1ee6d-de45-454d-b1b6-be25c11a455f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9b262014-501e-4322-9b94-3b78f93d183e/Procuretech-20ep-2039-20Solo-20Episode.mp3" length="20080019" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>All-round Supply Chain optimisation – Tobias Larsson of Altana.ai</title><itunes:title>All-round Supply Chain optimisation – Tobias Larsson of Altana.ai</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're talking about supply chains. More specifically, where does the line lie between procurement and supply chain? Should we be concentrating on better understanding our multi-tiered complex chains, rather than just purchasing software to better track and trace shipments?</span>
<h2>Understanding the value of pre-emptive end-to-end supply chain management</h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a bit of a loaded question, but I'm sure we're going to have a great debate today as we welcome an expert in the logistics and supply chain field, Tobias Larsson from Altana.ai.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Tobias to the podcast, and ask him for a little bit of background before we dive into the bulk of this week's show.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias explains how he began his career in supply chain logistics with DHL. Starting as a management trainee, he'd take calls in customer service. This let him learn the nuts and bolts of the business before moving into working in freight, then in innovation at DHL.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In 2011, just after the earthquake in Japan, he helped DHL develop a supply chain risk solution called Resilience 360. Eventually, this was spun out of DHL into its own business. Then, about a year ago, he left that organisation to join Altana.ai.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to explain how Altana's mission is to create a living map of global supply chains. He sees it like the Google Maps of b2b commerce, giving customers multi-tiered visibility of supply chain networks by using a broad pool of datasets, all stitched together with AI. Of course, this kind of risk awareness is only becoming more valuable in our current geopolitical situation, be it due to COVID, or other disruptions to global supply chains.</span>
<h3><strong>The future of supply chains – Just-in-time vs. Just-in-case</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that, in future, it's clear we'll need greater communication between corporate procurement at a strategic level, and local procurement at a more operational level. I ask Tobias, if he's starting to see a move away from procurement reporting into the CFO or a business unit, and instead reporting into supply chain, or the COO?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says yes, definitely. And goes on to describe how procurement has been a very strict process in companies, historically, acting almost as a policing faction. But now, looking at trends in the “new supply chain normal”, we've got bottlenecks, capacity shortages, transport issues, and a war in Ukraine.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's going to take time to get back to where we were before, with just-in-time supply chains, So now, pushing reliability upstream and expecting suppliers to deliver doesn't really work any more. Pointing your finger at suppliers is meaningless if they can't get access to the materials they need. It doesn't work to expect them to deliver on short deadlines.</span>
<h3>Collaboration and sharing responsibility</h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias says things are changing into a more collaborative environment where you need to work together with suppliers to manage risk. Procurement isn't a policing faction any more. Today's challenges call for a trusted, responsive network, so that we can all be more strategic and nimble.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Tobias to expand on the notion of near-shoring. Does he think that software like Altana.ai can offer the same kind of benefits? Could you keep a complex global supply chain in place while using that kind of software to mitigate risk? Or does he think a mix of both approaches is best?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that balance is the way forward, here. Reducing long supply lines is useful, and it's worthwhile for companies to do that. But what Altana.ai focuses on is trust. Whether your suppliers are near or far, if you're better able to detail your value chain, that's going to have value. It's about bringing them closer to your business in more ways than simple geography.</span>

<strong>Will we ever see a return to the way things were?</strong>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask about inventory – does the shift away from Just-in-time to Just-in-case is going to become permanent?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias thinks there'll be a strong re-balancing. It's more and more necessary to be mindful of your supply chains, and he thinks that a return to extreme JIT is unlikely.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention Brexit, and how we may expect to see more nationalistic policies in terms of trade, which is going to have an impact too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees – supply chain has never become a national interest before. But policy makers are realising that supply chains are a vital means to maintaining security in the world. We're going to see more legislation around not only locality, but ethics and sustainability too. He mentions the recent forced labour legislation in the US that prohibits some parts from China. Tomatoes, cotton, polysilicates, with each of these, you now have to prove that your suppliers are not part of forced labour activities.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention a new German supply chain law that puts responsibility on the end manufacturer to be responsible for their second and third tier suppliers too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees – this comes into play in January 2023, and will absolutely demand deeper visibility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I go back to his point about procurement being the policeman. Now it seems that policing is going to be more and more engaged with compliance. If there is an investigation, it'll fall to procurement to prove that the company is innocent and compliant.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Tobias if we should still be focusing on software that tracks cargo? Will there still be a need for that? Or if we focus on understanding our supply chains, will the need for that disappear?</span>
<h3><strong>Understanding your entire supply base – not just the first tier</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">He raises a recent study by McKinsey that shows some alarming results. Something like only 20% of businesses know anything about their Tier 2 suppliers. 3% know anything about their Tier 3. If you look at your Tier 1 suppliers, you should expect to have seven to seventeen times more suppliers in your total supply base. So you're only looking at the tip of the iceberg if you focus only on Tier 1.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I'm not convinced that a lot of companies fully understand their Tier 1s either!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees. He reckons up to 50% of companies don't really understand enough about where materials are actually produced. Visibility is lacking, all round and this needs to change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">On that note, I ask Tobias about technology in relation to risk management and predictive procurement. What can you focus on there? Some events seem impossible to predict – no software was going to forecast a war between Russia and Ukraine, for example. So what are the areas where software offers the most use?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias's mantra is that, while we can try to be proactive about things – for example eliminating dependencies – the key factor is always going to be your reactive capabilities. Some things are impossible to predict, so we need visibility and we need to be as responsive as we can. The more you understand, the faster you can adapt to changes.</span>
<h3><strong>What holds us back from embracing this technology?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It sounds like a no-brainer – so why aren't companies banging down Tobias's door to invest in this kind of thing?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says this is a great question, and thinks it comes down to cost. Risk, historically, has felt secondary when it comes to investment priorities. Lack of talent is also a factor. This is a new area, and specialists are in short supply. It's also about the data – if companies have grown through acquisition, there are so many layers that don't speak to each other, it's very difficult to organise that data into anything useful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But that's what he's doing with Altana – getting that data organised and making it so companies are ready to achieve this kind of visibility. Data isn't easy, but it is a required step if we're going to make more sophisticated systems that can cope with this new normal.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I thank Tobias for his interesting company, and round off the podcast by asking how you listeners can learn more about Altana.ai.</span>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-larsson-6a953b/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Tobias on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://altana.ai/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Altana's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date"...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week we're talking about supply chains. More specifically, where does the line lie between procurement and supply chain? Should we be concentrating on better understanding our multi-tiered complex chains, rather than just purchasing software to better track and trace shipments?</span>
<h2>Understanding the value of pre-emptive end-to-end supply chain management</h2>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It's a bit of a loaded question, but I'm sure we're going to have a great debate today as we welcome an expert in the logistics and supply chain field, Tobias Larsson from Altana.ai.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Tobias to the podcast, and ask him for a little bit of background before we dive into the bulk of this week's show.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias explains how he began his career in supply chain logistics with DHL. Starting as a management trainee, he'd take calls in customer service. This let him learn the nuts and bolts of the business before moving into working in freight, then in innovation at DHL.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">In 2011, just after the earthquake in Japan, he helped DHL develop a supply chain risk solution called Resilience 360. Eventually, this was spun out of DHL into its own business. Then, about a year ago, he left that organisation to join Altana.ai.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to explain how Altana's mission is to create a living map of global supply chains. He sees it like the Google Maps of b2b commerce, giving customers multi-tiered visibility of supply chain networks by using a broad pool of datasets, all stitched together with AI. Of course, this kind of risk awareness is only becoming more valuable in our current geopolitical situation, be it due to COVID, or other disruptions to global supply chains.</span>
<h3><strong>The future of supply chains – Just-in-time vs. Just-in-case</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I say that, in future, it's clear we'll need greater communication between corporate procurement at a strategic level, and local procurement at a more operational level. I ask Tobias, if he's starting to see a move away from procurement reporting into the CFO or a business unit, and instead reporting into supply chain, or the COO?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says yes, definitely. And goes on to describe how procurement has been a very strict process in companies, historically, acting almost as a policing faction. But now, looking at trends in the “new supply chain normal”, we've got bottlenecks, capacity shortages, transport issues, and a war in Ukraine.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It's going to take time to get back to where we were before, with just-in-time supply chains, So now, pushing reliability upstream and expecting suppliers to deliver doesn't really work any more. Pointing your finger at suppliers is meaningless if they can't get access to the materials they need. It doesn't work to expect them to deliver on short deadlines.</span>
<h3>Collaboration and sharing responsibility</h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias says things are changing into a more collaborative environment where you need to work together with suppliers to manage risk. Procurement isn't a policing faction any more. Today's challenges call for a trusted, responsive network, so that we can all be more strategic and nimble.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Tobias to expand on the notion of near-shoring. Does he think that software like Altana.ai can offer the same kind of benefits? Could you keep a complex global supply chain in place while using that kind of software to mitigate risk? Or does he think a mix of both approaches is best?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that balance is the way forward, here. Reducing long supply lines is useful, and it's worthwhile for companies to do that. But what Altana.ai focuses on is trust. Whether your suppliers are near or far, if you're better able to detail your value chain, that's going to have value. It's about bringing them closer to your business in more ways than simple geography.</span>

<strong>Will we ever see a return to the way things were?</strong>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask about inventory – does the shift away from Just-in-time to Just-in-case is going to become permanent?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias thinks there'll be a strong re-balancing. It's more and more necessary to be mindful of your supply chains, and he thinks that a return to extreme JIT is unlikely.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention Brexit, and how we may expect to see more nationalistic policies in terms of trade, which is going to have an impact too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees – supply chain has never become a national interest before. But policy makers are realising that supply chains are a vital means to maintaining security in the world. We're going to see more legislation around not only locality, but ethics and sustainability too. He mentions the recent forced labour legislation in the US that prohibits some parts from China. Tomatoes, cotton, polysilicates, with each of these, you now have to prove that your suppliers are not part of forced labour activities.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I mention a new German supply chain law that puts responsibility on the end manufacturer to be responsible for their second and third tier suppliers too.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees – this comes into play in January 2023, and will absolutely demand deeper visibility.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I go back to his point about procurement being the policeman. Now it seems that policing is going to be more and more engaged with compliance. If there is an investigation, it'll fall to procurement to prove that the company is innocent and compliant.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Tobias if we should still be focusing on software that tracks cargo? Will there still be a need for that? Or if we focus on understanding our supply chains, will the need for that disappear?</span>
<h3><strong>Understanding your entire supply base – not just the first tier</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">He raises a recent study by McKinsey that shows some alarming results. Something like only 20% of businesses know anything about their Tier 2 suppliers. 3% know anything about their Tier 3. If you look at your Tier 1 suppliers, you should expect to have seven to seventeen times more suppliers in your total supply base. So you're only looking at the tip of the iceberg if you focus only on Tier 1.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I'm not convinced that a lot of companies fully understand their Tier 1s either!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias agrees. He reckons up to 50% of companies don't really understand enough about where materials are actually produced. Visibility is lacking, all round and this needs to change.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">On that note, I ask Tobias about technology in relation to risk management and predictive procurement. What can you focus on there? Some events seem impossible to predict – no software was going to forecast a war between Russia and Ukraine, for example. So what are the areas where software offers the most use?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Tobias's mantra is that, while we can try to be proactive about things – for example eliminating dependencies – the key factor is always going to be your reactive capabilities. Some things are impossible to predict, so we need visibility and we need to be as responsive as we can. The more you understand, the faster you can adapt to changes.</span>
<h3><strong>What holds us back from embracing this technology?</strong></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">It sounds like a no-brainer – so why aren't companies banging down Tobias's door to invest in this kind of thing?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says this is a great question, and thinks it comes down to cost. Risk, historically, has felt secondary when it comes to investment priorities. Lack of talent is also a factor. This is a new area, and specialists are in short supply. It's also about the data – if companies have grown through acquisition, there are so many layers that don't speak to each other, it's very difficult to organise that data into anything useful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">But that's what he's doing with Altana – getting that data organised and making it so companies are ready to achieve this kind of visibility. Data isn't easy, but it is a required step if we're going to make more sophisticated systems that can cope with this new normal.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I thank Tobias for his interesting company, and round off the podcast by asking how you listeners can learn more about Altana.ai.</span>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-larsson-6a953b/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Tobias on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://altana.ai/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Altana's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f01d8faf-38a3-444c-acac-c2ac37007054</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e9455c81-08cd-47cf-b84a-d38029109f5c/Procuretech-20ep-2037-20Tobias-20Larsson.mp3" length="25552606" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Making the Case for the Suites – Jim Bureau of Jaggaer</title><itunes:title>Making the Case for the Suites – Jim Bureau of Jaggaer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week our guest is Jim Bureau, CEO of Jaggaer. He’s carving out a niche for an all-in-one solution, at a time when best of breeds are gaining market share. I’m known as a bit of a best of breed fanboy, so Jim is stepping into the dragon’s den, here!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Jim to the podcast, congratulate him for his bravery, and ask him about the challenges of offering a full suite solution in a tough market.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says it’s important to acknowledge that, while companies may want to commit strongly to either best of breed or full suite solutions, the reality is that most companies end up using a mix of different tech approaches. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to talk about the importance of user experience. Whether a solution is best of breed or wider in scope, the thing that users pick up on is the experience. And that’s what Jaggaer focuses on.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><b>The future landscape for established suites</b><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">I ask what Jim expects to see in the future for established suites like Jaggaer. Does he expect things to become more modular? Is that a direction he’s thinking of following with Jaggaer?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that the reason why full suites exist in the first place is that it’s expensive to tie things together. He thinks that simplicity is key here, and that this question brings up two important initiatives for Jaggaer at the moment. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">One is creating an environment and ecosystem of partners that allows people to have suite systems while being able to plug niche, innovative vendors into that - quickly, easily and without requiring a lot of IT spend. Jaggaer allows customers to share third party modules and products that can easily be plugged in.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Secondly, Jim is also working on something called Jaggaer Compose. This allows the customer and partner community to build out business processes that are specific to a niche or industry, and can then be shared amongst one another. He believes this will completely change the game on how people interact with these systems today. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It will officially be launched at the end of Q2.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><b>A Pick and Mix approach</b>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim if he sees a future where customers can take a more  “pick and mix” approach. For example, let’s imagine a consumer thinks that an external spend analytics product is stronger than what Jaggaer can offer. Is that something that they could, as part of their RFP, specifically request? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that, for any CEO, no-one wants to forgo business! But he accepts that this is how most companies want to work. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Jim has spent a lot of time and effort on Jaggaer’s autonomous commerce platform. Autonomy is important, and true autonomy comes from embracing sources outside of your own system - taking information from sources like TealBook or EcoVadis, and working that into your machine learning. There are so many sources of information out there, and you’re never going to own everything.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that you can’t be everything to everyone - Ikea makes great kitchens but you wouldn’t buy your white goods from them. Customers want to use specialists. I use contract management as an example, and Jim jumps on the opportunity to speak more about this…</span>

<b>Contract management and acquisitions</b>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that contracts are something people often use as an example of an adjacent market here, but he’s spent a lot of time and effort making Jaggaer’s contract features as usable as possible.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He explains that he doesn’t want to force customers into adopting his contract module just because it’s there. By focusing on the user experience, and good application of data (from some acquisitions we’ll talk about in a moment..), he hopes that customers will gravitate to the best, easiest solution available - and if that’s Jaggaer, then great.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim what drives his strategy around staying on top of innovation? How would he decide whether to acquire a company or to enter a strategic partnership like he has with TealBook and EcoVadis? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim explains that it comes down to comprehensiveness. Not just the comprehensiveness of the application, but the comprehensiveness of the user experience. If we follow a workflow, from start to finish through a b2b application, are we improving that workflow?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The challenge in the SaaS environment today is that everybody wants an application that works just for them,  but they also want quick time to value. Jim says this is what Jaggaer Compose is all about: Allowing people to tailor their application to either their industry, their process flows, or their environment, without breaking the system when it comes to multi-tenant SaaS upgrades.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Investing in startups</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim if he also invests in up and coming startups, and he says that this would occur by way of his partner ecosystem - either revenue sharing, or from a support perspective.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I then move on to the question of balance. How does Jim see the balance between features and cost, in terms of where the market is going? What sort of annual turnover would a company need to typically have for Jagger to be an attractive solution?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that while this can vary, based on the industry, a good rule of thumb would be to see 250-300 million turnover as an entry point. Jaggaer does serve some companies below that threshold, but they would be something like pharmaceutical startups, which are unique cases due to their high profits and ability to scale explosively if successful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim shares an interesting statistic: Indirect materials only make up about 25 to 30% of corporate spend. Direct materials matters, and Jaggaer is the strongest player in the marketplace here. It's a very good space for Jaggaer, and something that Jim views as clearly differentiated, relative to the suite’s peers. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Data management, pitfalls for large enterprises, and changing times</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim about data management. Aside from his acquisition of TealBook, what else is he doing to stay ahead of the curve here? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that this is one of the toughest aspects when making things work correctly. But he’s created an ecosystem of partners who, by working with them closely, enable a methodology for how data gets pulled in. In many cases, particularly at the enterprise level, companies will often have a separate MDM initiative that Jaggaer will then plug in to. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim where he typically sees enterprises fail. Where do they get frustrated or fall down when it comes to digital procurement transformation?</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">He says that something he’s seeing currently, is people not adapting to change. Between COVID and the recent geopolitical instability, what we're seeing now is a very different environment. Where people oftentimes historically have gone wrong, is by presuming that these changes are procurement issues, when really they’re revenue issues, or issues that affect companies on a broader scale. We should let more departments have a seat at the table, rather than limit the span of discussion to procurement alone. Span is important, and has a material impact on the success of adoption.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There’s also the expectation of speed, due to people’s experiences in the b2c world. People are expecting Amazon-speed turnarounds on purchases - to be able to buy something and have it on their desk the next day. And if you can’t deliver on that expectation, you will struggle. That’s why Jaggaer is fully intending to deliver that.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim where he’s seeing the most traction at the moment, in terms of business growth, </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says he’s mostly seeing growth in areas with complex needs, such as manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. He does also see some greenfield growth, but points out again that 75% of corporate spend is in direct materials. That market has historically been ERP run, but those ERPs don’t communicate with the outside world fantastically, so he’s seeing a lot of uptick in that space.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">To finish off, I thank Jim for his time, and ask where you can go to learn more about Jaggaer.  </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: 400">This week our guest is Jim Bureau, CEO of Jaggaer. He’s carving out a niche for an all-in-one solution, at a time when best of breeds are gaining market share. I’m known as a bit of a best of breed fanboy, so Jim is stepping into the dragon’s den, here!</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">I welcome Jim to the podcast, congratulate him for his bravery, and ask him about the challenges of offering a full suite solution in a tough market.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says it’s important to acknowledge that, while companies may want to commit strongly to either best of breed or full suite solutions, the reality is that most companies end up using a mix of different tech approaches. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">He goes on to talk about the importance of user experience. Whether a solution is best of breed or wider in scope, the thing that users pick up on is the experience. And that’s what Jaggaer focuses on.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><b>The future landscape for established suites</b><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">I ask what Jim expects to see in the future for established suites like Jaggaer. Does he expect things to become more modular? Is that a direction he’s thinking of following with Jaggaer?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that the reason why full suites exist in the first place is that it’s expensive to tie things together. He thinks that simplicity is key here, and that this question brings up two important initiatives for Jaggaer at the moment. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">One is creating an environment and ecosystem of partners that allows people to have suite systems while being able to plug niche, innovative vendors into that - quickly, easily and without requiring a lot of IT spend. Jaggaer allows customers to share third party modules and products that can easily be plugged in.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Secondly, Jim is also working on something called Jaggaer Compose. This allows the customer and partner community to build out business processes that are specific to a niche or industry, and can then be shared amongst one another. He believes this will completely change the game on how people interact with these systems today. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">It will officially be launched at the end of Q2.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><b>A Pick and Mix approach</b>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim if he sees a future where customers can take a more  “pick and mix” approach. For example, let’s imagine a consumer thinks that an external spend analytics product is stronger than what Jaggaer can offer. Is that something that they could, as part of their RFP, specifically request? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that, for any CEO, no-one wants to forgo business! But he accepts that this is how most companies want to work. </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">Jim has spent a lot of time and effort on Jaggaer’s autonomous commerce platform. Autonomy is important, and true autonomy comes from embracing sources outside of your own system - taking information from sources like TealBook or EcoVadis, and working that into your machine learning. There are so many sources of information out there, and you’re never going to own everything.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I agree that you can’t be everything to everyone - Ikea makes great kitchens but you wouldn’t buy your white goods from them. Customers want to use specialists. I use contract management as an example, and Jim jumps on the opportunity to speak more about this…</span>

<b>Contract management and acquisitions</b>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that contracts are something people often use as an example of an adjacent market here, but he’s spent a lot of time and effort making Jaggaer’s contract features as usable as possible.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He explains that he doesn’t want to force customers into adopting his contract module just because it’s there. By focusing on the user experience, and good application of data (from some acquisitions we’ll talk about in a moment..), he hopes that customers will gravitate to the best, easiest solution available - and if that’s Jaggaer, then great.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim what drives his strategy around staying on top of innovation? How would he decide whether to acquire a company or to enter a strategic partnership like he has with TealBook and EcoVadis? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim explains that it comes down to comprehensiveness. Not just the comprehensiveness of the application, but the comprehensiveness of the user experience. If we follow a workflow, from start to finish through a b2b application, are we improving that workflow?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">The challenge in the SaaS environment today is that everybody wants an application that works just for them,  but they also want quick time to value. Jim says this is what Jaggaer Compose is all about: Allowing people to tailor their application to either their industry, their process flows, or their environment, without breaking the system when it comes to multi-tenant SaaS upgrades.</span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Investing in startups</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim if he also invests in up and coming startups, and he says that this would occur by way of his partner ecosystem - either revenue sharing, or from a support perspective.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I then move on to the question of balance. How does Jim see the balance between features and cost, in terms of where the market is going? What sort of annual turnover would a company need to typically have for Jagger to be an attractive solution?</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says that while this can vary, based on the industry, a good rule of thumb would be to see 250-300 million turnover as an entry point. Jaggaer does serve some companies below that threshold, but they would be something like pharmaceutical startups, which are unique cases due to their high profits and ability to scale explosively if successful.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim shares an interesting statistic: Indirect materials only make up about 25 to 30% of corporate spend. Direct materials matters, and Jaggaer is the strongest player in the marketplace here. It's a very good space for Jaggaer, and something that Jim views as clearly differentiated, relative to the suite’s peers. </span>
<h3><span style="font-weight: 400">Data management, pitfalls for large enterprises, and changing times</span></h3>
<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim about data management. Aside from his acquisition of TealBook, what else is he doing to stay ahead of the curve here? </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">He says that this is one of the toughest aspects when making things work correctly. But he’s created an ecosystem of partners who, by working with them closely, enable a methodology for how data gets pulled in. In many cases, particularly at the enterprise level, companies will often have a separate MDM initiative that Jaggaer will then plug in to. </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim where he typically sees enterprises fail. Where do they get frustrated or fall down when it comes to digital procurement transformation?</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">He says that something he’s seeing currently, is people not adapting to change. Between COVID and the recent geopolitical instability, what we're seeing now is a very different environment. Where people oftentimes historically have gone wrong, is by presuming that these changes are procurement issues, when really they’re revenue issues, or issues that affect companies on a broader scale. We should let more departments have a seat at the table, rather than limit the span of discussion to procurement alone. Span is important, and has a material impact on the success of adoption.</span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">There’s also the expectation of speed, due to people’s experiences in the b2c world. People are expecting Amazon-speed turnarounds on purchases - to be able to buy something and have it on their desk the next day. And if you can’t deliver on that expectation, you will struggle. That’s why Jaggaer is fully intending to deliver that.  </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">I ask Jim where he’s seeing the most traction at the moment, in terms of business growth, </span>

<span style="font-weight: 400">Jim says he’s mostly seeing growth in areas with complex needs, such as manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. He does also see some greenfield growth, but points out again that 75% of corporate spend is in direct materials. That market has historically been ERP run, but those ERPs don’t communicate with the outside world fantastically, so he’s seeing a lot of uptick in that space.</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">To finish off, I thank Jim for his time, and ask where you can go to learn more about Jaggaer.  </span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span><span style="font-weight: 400">
</span>
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimbureau/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Jim on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.jaggaer.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Jaggaer's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6cafdfc0-1eae-42fe-a940-c4f32ffac844</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0deaf45e-0fbf-4909-b255-b9403a78abcd/ProcureTech-20ep-2036-20Jim-20Bureau.mp3" length="25294934" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Solving Tail Spend in a Legacy S2P Ecosystem – Henning Hatje from Lhotse</title><itunes:title>Solving Tail Spend in a Legacy S2P Ecosystem – Henning Hatje from Lhotse</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week we’ve got a sponsored episode, welcoming back a guest we last spoke to in September 2021, Henning Hatje from Lhotse.

Lhotse has a tactical and tail spend solution, which they see as something complementary to a legacy suite based approach. So if you've spent a lot of money investing in one of these suites and you're not likely to change provider, or maybe your company has a strategy to use a specific ecosystem that matches and ties in with your ERP (not naming names!), then this solution could be for you.
<h2>Lhotse pivots to enterprise with a new solution</h2>
I welcome Henning back to the podcast and mention how, since he was last on the show, he’s been busy making changes to Lhotse that he’s very excited to share.

He talks about how Lhoste have been securing funding, scaling their team, refining their value proposition and pivoting their target market over the last eight to ten months.

Lhotse now have enterprise size organisations squarely in their sites. Henning explains how the team realised that Lhotse works best when implemented in large, existing structures like the ones mentioned in the podcast’s intro - for example SAP Ariba. Not so much as a standalone solution, but rather as an integrated solution that operates in the background of those legacy systems.
<h3><strong>What makes Lhotse different?</strong></h3>
Henning explains how these legacy systems don’t cover tactical spend well, and are often cumbersome to use from a UX standpoint. I ask him what makes Lhoste different, and how it can meet the kind of requirements that today's customer is demanding.

He explains that Lhotse’s new approach hopes to supercharge procurement systems, working on two main axes:

One focusing on the operative procurement teams, the spot by teams, the tactical teams, making their life easier and more efficient, bringing efficiency levers to their daily life, in terms of execution;

And one focusing on the requester, the business users that are spread across the organisation. Henning  says that business users never enjoy these big suites, because they’re made for experts, not occasional users.

Although we both think that these big suites do have upsides, and we shouldn’t beat them up too much, we both agree that UX makes them very intimidating for new users.

For tactical spend and tail spend, users need a system that's intuitive, because if they don't have that, it results in maverick spend.
<h3>Why do things this way, as opposed to just connecting catalogues?</h3>
I put forward a logical challenge to Henning: Why wouldn't you then just just connect a bunch of punch out catalogues with something like Ariba, or one of these big suites? Where is the gap between what Lhotse does and what and what a punch out catalogue running into one of these suites can offer?

He explains that the chief benefit is central coordination and easy searchability. Lhotse can harmonise across catalogues, giving an integration layer that combines the process of searching for something, no matter if it's a catalog item, or a free text request that will go out to suppliers to get quotes.

While common, repeatable spend might benefit from a catalogue approach, not all spend is of this kind. So Lhotse is also useful when it comes to non-repeatable spend - for example a marketing assistant buying conference meeting rooms. Unique spend like this is common, and no-one wants to use a static, unintuitive catalog for these sorts of purchases.
<h3>Examples - How Lhotse could help your organisation</h3>
What does the process look like for tactical and tail spend in a poorly managed organisation, and by contrast, what does the same process look like when using Lhotse?

He proposes an example where a company is using Ariba: They get a first quote, put it into the system as a free text request, and then put this to the procurement team to action. In this example, the procurement team is effectively doing a job a robot could do. They're not even sourcing, just converting a purchase rack into a purchase order.

However, with Lhotse integrated into SAP, Ariba, it will take a requisition and identify whether it's something that should be converted into a purchase order with the vendor, or if it's something that warrants a bit more activity in terms of sourcing. And then if the buyer doesn't necessarily know who to source it from, it has a basic supplier scouting functionality built into it.

I ask Henning whether this can find new vendors, or is strictly limited to those that companies are already using.

He says that Lhotse can do this, but most customers would rather stay with their onboarded suppliers, especially in tail spend, where most look to consolidate rather than add.
<h3>Cost of integration - saving time, saving money</h3>
I ask Henning what it takes to integrate Lhotse into the existing systems of large enterprises. Will they need external consultancy and extra IT specialists, or should they be able to handle themselves?

He’s confident that any company big enough to have its own team to manage systems can handle integration themselves. Which is of course good to know because, especially now in such an inflationary market, budgets are tight. So if anything can be done in house, that's always a big selling point.
<h3>ESG Compliance - How Lhoste handles the elephant in the room</h3>
Looking at the market that Lhotse is now playing into, the elephant in the room is obviously ESG. All of these big corporations are putting a lot of focus now in terms of ESG, and additional compliance in that area. I ask Henning how Lhotse works with external ESG systems and sources like Ecovadis.

He says that this is very important to where Lhotse is heading. Ultimately, concerns around ESG compliance are becoming huge drivers in decision making, and only stand to become more so in future.

To this end, Lhotse is supercharging the way it handles ESG data, making sure that whenever a purchasing decision made, whoever is in charge in that particular situation has these data points transparent, to implement them in their in their decision making. This doesn't kill the need for a post assessment of your environmental footprint, or how your supply chain is dealing with certain regulations and compliance regulations. But it helps you to make compliance-savvy decisions along the way.

I agree that this is really important. If a company is going to get caught up in any scandals, or in any issues, around ESG it's typically going to come from the long tail, because obviously, they're the suppliers that aren’t being actively managed.

If companies are going to get tripped up, it's not going to come from the suppliers that are under control. This goes for every organisation, even at an enterprise level, so I think that's a really important point on ESG.

Henning goes on to say that, while ESG is maybe not the volume driver in terms of euros or dollars, in terms of transactions and business relationships, it's the majority. A few good decisions in this area can give a real strategic edge to your organisation. And that’s what Lhotse can help with.

If you, for example, say that in any kind of sourcing event, the suppliers need to have an Ecovadis score of at least 60 or so then you can have this as a parameter in your calibration for loads. Then you already have better recommendations of which suppliers are actually suitable for you or not. Obviously this requires the best data available too, which is a process in itself, but Henning says that Lhotse is making great progress in that direction, especially due to external data providers like IntegrityNext and Ecovadis.
<h3>Lhotse Live Demo!</h3>
We round off the episode by talking about our upcoming live demo of Lhotse, which you can sign up for using the links below.

https://procurementsoftware.webinargeek.com/lhotsedemo

Many thanks to Henning for coming back on the Podcast, and we’ll see you next time!
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/">Connect with Henning on Linkedin</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/">Visit Lhotse's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week we’ve got a sponsored episode, welcoming back a guest we last spoke to in September 2021, Henning Hatje from Lhotse.

Lhotse has a tactical and tail spend solution, which they see as something complementary to a legacy suite based approach. So if you've spent a lot of money investing in one of these suites and you're not likely to change provider, or maybe your company has a strategy to use a specific ecosystem that matches and ties in with your ERP (not naming names!), then this solution could be for you.
<h2>Lhotse pivots to enterprise with a new solution</h2>
I welcome Henning back to the podcast and mention how, since he was last on the show, he’s been busy making changes to Lhotse that he’s very excited to share.

He talks about how Lhoste have been securing funding, scaling their team, refining their value proposition and pivoting their target market over the last eight to ten months.

Lhotse now have enterprise size organisations squarely in their sites. Henning explains how the team realised that Lhotse works best when implemented in large, existing structures like the ones mentioned in the podcast’s intro - for example SAP Ariba. Not so much as a standalone solution, but rather as an integrated solution that operates in the background of those legacy systems.
<h3><strong>What makes Lhotse different?</strong></h3>
Henning explains how these legacy systems don’t cover tactical spend well, and are often cumbersome to use from a UX standpoint. I ask him what makes Lhoste different, and how it can meet the kind of requirements that today's customer is demanding.

He explains that Lhotse’s new approach hopes to supercharge procurement systems, working on two main axes:

One focusing on the operative procurement teams, the spot by teams, the tactical teams, making their life easier and more efficient, bringing efficiency levers to their daily life, in terms of execution;

And one focusing on the requester, the business users that are spread across the organisation. Henning  says that business users never enjoy these big suites, because they’re made for experts, not occasional users.

Although we both think that these big suites do have upsides, and we shouldn’t beat them up too much, we both agree that UX makes them very intimidating for new users.

For tactical spend and tail spend, users need a system that's intuitive, because if they don't have that, it results in maverick spend.
<h3>Why do things this way, as opposed to just connecting catalogues?</h3>
I put forward a logical challenge to Henning: Why wouldn't you then just just connect a bunch of punch out catalogues with something like Ariba, or one of these big suites? Where is the gap between what Lhotse does and what and what a punch out catalogue running into one of these suites can offer?

He explains that the chief benefit is central coordination and easy searchability. Lhotse can harmonise across catalogues, giving an integration layer that combines the process of searching for something, no matter if it's a catalog item, or a free text request that will go out to suppliers to get quotes.

While common, repeatable spend might benefit from a catalogue approach, not all spend is of this kind. So Lhotse is also useful when it comes to non-repeatable spend - for example a marketing assistant buying conference meeting rooms. Unique spend like this is common, and no-one wants to use a static, unintuitive catalog for these sorts of purchases.
<h3>Examples - How Lhotse could help your organisation</h3>
What does the process look like for tactical and tail spend in a poorly managed organisation, and by contrast, what does the same process look like when using Lhotse?

He proposes an example where a company is using Ariba: They get a first quote, put it into the system as a free text request, and then put this to the procurement team to action. In this example, the procurement team is effectively doing a job a robot could do. They're not even sourcing, just converting a purchase rack into a purchase order.

However, with Lhotse integrated into SAP, Ariba, it will take a requisition and identify whether it's something that should be converted into a purchase order with the vendor, or if it's something that warrants a bit more activity in terms of sourcing. And then if the buyer doesn't necessarily know who to source it from, it has a basic supplier scouting functionality built into it.

I ask Henning whether this can find new vendors, or is strictly limited to those that companies are already using.

He says that Lhotse can do this, but most customers would rather stay with their onboarded suppliers, especially in tail spend, where most look to consolidate rather than add.
<h3>Cost of integration - saving time, saving money</h3>
I ask Henning what it takes to integrate Lhotse into the existing systems of large enterprises. Will they need external consultancy and extra IT specialists, or should they be able to handle themselves?

He’s confident that any company big enough to have its own team to manage systems can handle integration themselves. Which is of course good to know because, especially now in such an inflationary market, budgets are tight. So if anything can be done in house, that's always a big selling point.
<h3>ESG Compliance - How Lhoste handles the elephant in the room</h3>
Looking at the market that Lhotse is now playing into, the elephant in the room is obviously ESG. All of these big corporations are putting a lot of focus now in terms of ESG, and additional compliance in that area. I ask Henning how Lhotse works with external ESG systems and sources like Ecovadis.

He says that this is very important to where Lhotse is heading. Ultimately, concerns around ESG compliance are becoming huge drivers in decision making, and only stand to become more so in future.

To this end, Lhotse is supercharging the way it handles ESG data, making sure that whenever a purchasing decision made, whoever is in charge in that particular situation has these data points transparent, to implement them in their in their decision making. This doesn't kill the need for a post assessment of your environmental footprint, or how your supply chain is dealing with certain regulations and compliance regulations. But it helps you to make compliance-savvy decisions along the way.

I agree that this is really important. If a company is going to get caught up in any scandals, or in any issues, around ESG it's typically going to come from the long tail, because obviously, they're the suppliers that aren’t being actively managed.

If companies are going to get tripped up, it's not going to come from the suppliers that are under control. This goes for every organisation, even at an enterprise level, so I think that's a really important point on ESG.

Henning goes on to say that, while ESG is maybe not the volume driver in terms of euros or dollars, in terms of transactions and business relationships, it's the majority. A few good decisions in this area can give a real strategic edge to your organisation. And that’s what Lhotse can help with.

If you, for example, say that in any kind of sourcing event, the suppliers need to have an Ecovadis score of at least 60 or so then you can have this as a parameter in your calibration for loads. Then you already have better recommendations of which suppliers are actually suitable for you or not. Obviously this requires the best data available too, which is a process in itself, but Henning says that Lhotse is making great progress in that direction, especially due to external data providers like IntegrityNext and Ecovadis.
<h3>Lhotse Live Demo!</h3>
We round off the episode by talking about our upcoming live demo of Lhotse, which you can sign up for using the links below.

https://procurementsoftware.webinargeek.com/lhotsedemo

Many thanks to Henning for coming back on the Podcast, and we’ll see you next time!
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/">Connect with Henning on Linkedin</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/">Visit Lhotse's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a4c04bba-814f-425b-87b0-d36a706fdd75</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1a9f592e-6588-49f9-b3b7-6300c1dab96b/Procuretech-20ep-2036-20Henning-20Hatje.mp3" length="32865809" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Using a Bot for Spot Ocean Freight – Alan Holland from Keelvar</title><itunes:title>Using a Bot for Spot Ocean Freight – Alan Holland from Keelvar</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week we're taking on a very relevant topic in today's marketplace. Given the current supply chain crisis and geopolitical instability, what better time to speak to a guest from a unique eSourcing solution?

Alan Holland, CEO of Keelvar, is here to tell us how AI can offer something more immediate, spot and transactional, in these unstable times when agility matters.
<h2>Keelvar - bot technology for spot sourcing</h2>
Alan begins by giving us a rundown of Keelvar - who it serves and how it works.

Alan explains how his background in a university computer science department inspired Keelvar, and how his knowledge in AI has enabled him to develop a platform for sourcing excellence, that scales to any size of transaction.
<h3>Recognising the importance of data... finally!</h3>
Alan got into procurement after watching his PhD students making requests from chemical companies. It was a chaotic process, and as a computer scientist he identified it immediately as a data problem: Much richer information needed to be collected from suppliers, and data processes needed to be much more efficient.

He explains a win/win situation here - with both buyers and suppliers benefiting from richer, more detailed data. This was how things got started for Keelvar.
<h3>Optimising spot sourcing, as opposed to long-term tenders</h3>
I ask Alan about Keelvar's unique focus: Optimising spot sourcing.

Using ocean freight as an example, Alan begins by explaining what makes Keelvar stand out from its competitors.

On the one side, there are strategic sourcing events that take a long time (often months) to complete. For these, Keelvar stands out by offering the most flexibility and detail.

The other major challenge in ocean freight is change - be that rates, network requirements or ports. Every day you're going back to market with mini tenders to adapt to these changes. Keelvar has sourcing bots that can automate this process, and provide great flexibility in customising this automation.

We talk about the difference between ocean freight and other areas such as consumer goods, highlighting how much flexibility and agility matter in an ever-changing marketplace.
<h3>Predictability vs flexibility in ocean freight</h3>
Many freight handlers reward predictability through their pricing.

I ask Alan how Keelvar, which by nature doesn't provide that kind of predictability, can still create value when it comes to ocean freight.

Alan explains how this capability is embedded in the sourcing bots: When requests come in, if there is predictability in the demand pattern, then that is gathered at the request stage and shared with the carriers.
<h3>How does Keelvar deal with charges at port?</h3>
Alan explains that each of Keelvar's customers has great flexibility in how they want to design their bid sheet.

Each sourcing bot asks for different things.

If you determine that port handling fees are cost elements that should be included in the overall offer, carriers can't submit a bid without including those fees.
<h3>What is the biggest win offered by Keelvar?</h3>
Is it cost, data quality, simplifying processes under one source of truth, or a mixture of all three?

Alan thinks it's a mix of all three, but that time saved is the main thing - with one customer saving 93% of the time and workload required for these mini tenders in ocean freight. He sees this as Keelvar's top benefit.

But other benefits included process consistency, and savings as a result of being able to approach a large number of carriers in parallel. Keelvar makes this kind of scalability easy, allowing you go out to many more suppliers and generate competitive tension in the process.

Keelvar is also fast - there's no time spent waiting for someone in procurement to kick off a mini tender process.
<h3>How does reporting work with Keelvar?</h3>
All the big data is collected online, so it's not on spreadsheet.

The bot then uses a chat interface with a human approver to offer a choice of available options: From fastest, to most economical, to most environmentally friendly.

You can then request the bot to find a solution that falls between these extremes, and approve it once you're happy.

With ocean freight, you typically have a pool of lanes that are repeatable, from origin to destination, and on the other hand you have completely one-off spot requirements. I ask Alan how Keelvar's sourcing bot can differentiate between the two.

Be it a one-off, a mini-tender, or a long -term agreement, you should be collecting the same information. Therefore the requirements for a sourcing bot are also fairly similar, regardless of the tender at hand. The only change being whether it's a one-off movement or something that's going to repeat for weeks. Then it's up to the carriers to adjust their response accordingly. The processes involved for the bots really don't need to change that much.
<h3>Does someone using Keelvar need a good grasp of logistics procurement?</h3>
Yes. Any bot is only as smart as the person telling it what to do. Usually the person approving suggested actions from the bot will need a competent overview of the procurement process they're dealing with.

Simple factors like 'shortest route' can be calculated mathematically, but nuanced factors like CO2 emissions will require personnel to make the final call.

There's only so much machines can do in place of human judgement.

However, there is an emerging process where the bot becomes more tightly integrated with your data sources.

Bots can use third party data sources to ascertain more information than you might think - which vessel will be used? What's it's age? These factors can give you an idea on emissions, and so it is possible, by being extremely qualitative, to train the bots to apply bias here.
<h3>The future of Keelvar</h3>
A feature we could see in the near future are FCL and LCL bots who learn to talk to each other, and that are able to handle conditional, "if x then y" scenarios. Alan sees this as a natural next step.
<h3>Beyond ocean freight – Keelvar and other categories</h3>
For a final question I ask Alan about other categories outside of ocean freight where Keelvar has been a success.

Large retailers, automotive, consumer goods - all use Keelvar for categories such as packaging, temporary labour, steel parts, fuel, and electricity. There are many spend categories with complex cost structures, that require either/or decisions, and these are where Keelvar delivers most benefit.

Keelvar can be applied to direct and indirect categories, which is quite unique. Most high end sourcing solutions tend to focus on one or the other.
<h3 class="western">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanholland/">Connect with Alan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.keelvar.com/">Visit Keelvar's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week we're taking on a very relevant topic in today's marketplace. Given the current supply chain crisis and geopolitical instability, what better time to speak to a guest from a unique eSourcing solution?

Alan Holland, CEO of Keelvar, is here to tell us how AI can offer something more immediate, spot and transactional, in these unstable times when agility matters.
<h2>Keelvar - bot technology for spot sourcing</h2>
Alan begins by giving us a rundown of Keelvar - who it serves and how it works.

Alan explains how his background in a university computer science department inspired Keelvar, and how his knowledge in AI has enabled him to develop a platform for sourcing excellence, that scales to any size of transaction.
<h3>Recognising the importance of data... finally!</h3>
Alan got into procurement after watching his PhD students making requests from chemical companies. It was a chaotic process, and as a computer scientist he identified it immediately as a data problem: Much richer information needed to be collected from suppliers, and data processes needed to be much more efficient.

He explains a win/win situation here - with both buyers and suppliers benefiting from richer, more detailed data. This was how things got started for Keelvar.
<h3>Optimising spot sourcing, as opposed to long-term tenders</h3>
I ask Alan about Keelvar's unique focus: Optimising spot sourcing.

Using ocean freight as an example, Alan begins by explaining what makes Keelvar stand out from its competitors.

On the one side, there are strategic sourcing events that take a long time (often months) to complete. For these, Keelvar stands out by offering the most flexibility and detail.

The other major challenge in ocean freight is change - be that rates, network requirements or ports. Every day you're going back to market with mini tenders to adapt to these changes. Keelvar has sourcing bots that can automate this process, and provide great flexibility in customising this automation.

We talk about the difference between ocean freight and other areas such as consumer goods, highlighting how much flexibility and agility matter in an ever-changing marketplace.
<h3>Predictability vs flexibility in ocean freight</h3>
Many freight handlers reward predictability through their pricing.

I ask Alan how Keelvar, which by nature doesn't provide that kind of predictability, can still create value when it comes to ocean freight.

Alan explains how this capability is embedded in the sourcing bots: When requests come in, if there is predictability in the demand pattern, then that is gathered at the request stage and shared with the carriers.
<h3>How does Keelvar deal with charges at port?</h3>
Alan explains that each of Keelvar's customers has great flexibility in how they want to design their bid sheet.

Each sourcing bot asks for different things.

If you determine that port handling fees are cost elements that should be included in the overall offer, carriers can't submit a bid without including those fees.
<h3>What is the biggest win offered by Keelvar?</h3>
Is it cost, data quality, simplifying processes under one source of truth, or a mixture of all three?

Alan thinks it's a mix of all three, but that time saved is the main thing - with one customer saving 93% of the time and workload required for these mini tenders in ocean freight. He sees this as Keelvar's top benefit.

But other benefits included process consistency, and savings as a result of being able to approach a large number of carriers in parallel. Keelvar makes this kind of scalability easy, allowing you go out to many more suppliers and generate competitive tension in the process.

Keelvar is also fast - there's no time spent waiting for someone in procurement to kick off a mini tender process.
<h3>How does reporting work with Keelvar?</h3>
All the big data is collected online, so it's not on spreadsheet.

The bot then uses a chat interface with a human approver to offer a choice of available options: From fastest, to most economical, to most environmentally friendly.

You can then request the bot to find a solution that falls between these extremes, and approve it once you're happy.

With ocean freight, you typically have a pool of lanes that are repeatable, from origin to destination, and on the other hand you have completely one-off spot requirements. I ask Alan how Keelvar's sourcing bot can differentiate between the two.

Be it a one-off, a mini-tender, or a long -term agreement, you should be collecting the same information. Therefore the requirements for a sourcing bot are also fairly similar, regardless of the tender at hand. The only change being whether it's a one-off movement or something that's going to repeat for weeks. Then it's up to the carriers to adjust their response accordingly. The processes involved for the bots really don't need to change that much.
<h3>Does someone using Keelvar need a good grasp of logistics procurement?</h3>
Yes. Any bot is only as smart as the person telling it what to do. Usually the person approving suggested actions from the bot will need a competent overview of the procurement process they're dealing with.

Simple factors like 'shortest route' can be calculated mathematically, but nuanced factors like CO2 emissions will require personnel to make the final call.

There's only so much machines can do in place of human judgement.

However, there is an emerging process where the bot becomes more tightly integrated with your data sources.

Bots can use third party data sources to ascertain more information than you might think - which vessel will be used? What's it's age? These factors can give you an idea on emissions, and so it is possible, by being extremely qualitative, to train the bots to apply bias here.
<h3>The future of Keelvar</h3>
A feature we could see in the near future are FCL and LCL bots who learn to talk to each other, and that are able to handle conditional, "if x then y" scenarios. Alan sees this as a natural next step.
<h3>Beyond ocean freight – Keelvar and other categories</h3>
For a final question I ask Alan about other categories outside of ocean freight where Keelvar has been a success.

Large retailers, automotive, consumer goods - all use Keelvar for categories such as packaging, temporary labour, steel parts, fuel, and electricity. There are many spend categories with complex cost structures, that require either/or decisions, and these are where Keelvar delivers most benefit.

Keelvar can be applied to direct and indirect categories, which is quite unique. Most high end sourcing solutions tend to focus on one or the other.
<h3 class="western">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanholland/">Connect with Alan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.keelvar.com/">Visit Keelvar's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">285ee6fb-c57f-4406-909b-0e10b01986cf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7dfd5847-401f-43ca-860e-530489b08825/Procuretech-20ep-2035-20Alan-20Holland.mp3" length="22176541" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Source-to-Pay in the Mid-Market – Frank Schmidt from Onventis</title><itunes:title>Source-to-Pay in the Mid-Market – Frank Schmidt from Onventis</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Digital transformation doesn't necessarily have to be complex. Sometimes, an end-to-end source-to-pay (S2P) solution that joins up the dots, and automates a lot of otherwise manual processes, can give a huge productivity advantage.

The mid market has traditionally been underserved by procurement software, with tech companies typically going after large enterprise clients at their expense.

One of the older players in the European market is Onventis, who have successfully been improving and extending their offering since 2000 and successfully serving mid-market businesses. My guest today is their CEO, Frank Schmidt.
<h2>Providing a solid solution for source-to-pay in the mid market - Onventis has survived and thrived</h2>
Frank's audio unfortunately is pretty bad, so apologies for that ahead of the interview. We did the best we could.
<h3>Who is the target market for Onventis?</h3>
Mid-sized businesses for Onventis are those who fall into the bracket of internationally active manufacturing companies with an annual turnover of EUR 100 million to EUR 1.5 billion (approx. $110 million to $1.65 billion). Although they have customers who are much bigger than this too.
<h3>What does their suite cover?</h3>
At its core, Onventis is a source-to-pay suite but its functionality is more wide reaching than this. Their sourcing module goes right through to offer auctions, as well as basic contract management functionality.

There are also additional applications covering supplier and risk management, as well as the catalogues and e-procurement functionality associated with the traditional full stack P2P offerings.
<h3>How do they fare against some of the enterprise suites?</h3>
Frank agrees that towards the upper end of their customer base, they are playing on the same turf as some of the more well-known enterprise level procurement suite providers.

There has already been a lot of consolidation in this market, and Onventis has also been no stranger to this.

Their recent acquisition of Swedish spend analytics platform Spendency, along with an invoice automation platform called Workflow Wise who were acquired by Onventis two years ago. My interview with Arvid Fredin, who was Spendency's CEO prior to the acquisition, can be found in Episode 24 of the podcast.

As a German company, it's no surprise to learn that 70% of Onventis' customers are in a SAP ecosystem. This enables them to offer fully standardised integration with SAP, when so much of their business comes from customers already using SAP as their ERP system. Coming into contact with Ariba and Coupa is also commonplace.
<h3>Why go for a suite vs. 2 or 3 best-of-breed solutions bolted together?</h3>
Customers in this segment are always somewhat more price sensitive than enterprise customers, and the "time to value" is key in terms of seeing the ROI on their investment.

Time to implementation is key, as is the ability to pick and choose which modules of the suite to purchase in the initial phase. Customers often want to see proof of concept or run a pilot and to see a positive return on their price to performance ratio.

Offering modularity allows companies to tackle their digital transformation in a piece-by-piece way by capturing the most added value at first and then building on this.
<h3>How much greenfield business is still out there?</h3>
There isn't much greenfield business out there, which kind of surprised me a little when Frank said this. Most of the business they see is replacement business or expansion business in one form or another.

Frank sees a lot of legacy tech, fragmented systems and botched transformations out there. Much of the technology is siloed, such as invoice automation in Accounts Payable, which is an area they often come across and are asked to consolidate into their suite approach.

There is also a differentiation in the various industry sectors. Industrial manufacturing industries such as automotive are often ahead of their counterparts in service industries, where Frank still sees a fair bit of greenfield business and very immature procurement functions.

He also makes the point that mid-sized businesses are typically leaner and less bureaucratic than large corporates and can implement faster, meaning that decisions are taken on investment rather than being consistently postponed.
<h3>What about data quality: Is this an obstacle to sales?</h3>
Data is a huge topic, but it's something which procurement teams can no longer ignore. Frank cites the example of the need to make inroads in terms of measuring CO2 reduction as part of companies' sustainability initiatives.

40% of the mid-sized businesses that Onventis surveyed as part of their annual barometer of market research did not have a formal supplier qualification process in place, nor did they have a plan for climate neutral goals.

Frank therefore makes the point that lack of process maturity is arguably a bigger issue than poor quality data.
<h3>What explains the lack of process?</h3>
It can be a mixture of two things:
<ol>
 	<li>A lack of voice for procurement at board level;</li>
 	<li>Missing digital and data analysis capabilities within procurement teams of this size</li>
</ol><br/>
Internal SRM systems are usually spreadsheet based and often don't have connections to external data feeds and market intelligence, which can improve and complement the data.

Frank talks a bit about the forthcoming supply chain law in Germany, the "Lieferkettengesetz", which comes into force in January 2023.
<h3>How does implementation differ based on different customers and industry sectors?</h3>
While there will always be challenges and differences in the sales process and cycle between different sectors and procurement maturity, Frank sees the biggest challenge almost universally to be the change management and digital skills capabilities within procurement teams.

Getting to the sale is one thing, but there seems to consistently be a skills shortage when it comes to the hard digital skills, along with the soft skills of change management, communication and influence.

Acknowledging this has led Onventis to include their implementation consulting team as part of the sales process.

Depending on where a customer has the most pain will usually dictate the departments and stakeholders who are heavily involved in the sourcing process.

70% of the requests and sales enquiries they see are actually originating from procurement teams, even if the push is coming from e.g. the need for more invoice automation which is typically managed by finance.
<h3>What about their technology roadmap</h3>
Frank cites three key areas where they are developing or improving:
<ol>
 	<li>Working with their supplier network to ensure that the platform remains competitive for a UX perspective for sellers to use. Catalogue integration and usability is a key area of focus. They have a direct integration with Amazon business and generic search APIs across other networks and marketplace platforms to enable guided buying.</li>
 	<li>Opening their network to third party platforms to enable enrichment of supplier data as part of SRM enhancements and ongoing need to have more transparency and improved data reliability for ESG initiatives.</li>
 	<li>Growing out the AI capabilities of Spendency, their recent spend analytics acquisition, and integrating this into the wider Onventis modular offering.</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidtfrank/">Connect with Frank on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.onventis.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Onventis' website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Digital transformation doesn't necessarily have to be complex. Sometimes, an end-to-end source-to-pay (S2P) solution that joins up the dots, and automates a lot of otherwise manual processes, can give a huge productivity advantage.

The mid market has traditionally been underserved by procurement software, with tech companies typically going after large enterprise clients at their expense.

One of the older players in the European market is Onventis, who have successfully been improving and extending their offering since 2000 and successfully serving mid-market businesses. My guest today is their CEO, Frank Schmidt.
<h2>Providing a solid solution for source-to-pay in the mid market - Onventis has survived and thrived</h2>
Frank's audio unfortunately is pretty bad, so apologies for that ahead of the interview. We did the best we could.
<h3>Who is the target market for Onventis?</h3>
Mid-sized businesses for Onventis are those who fall into the bracket of internationally active manufacturing companies with an annual turnover of EUR 100 million to EUR 1.5 billion (approx. $110 million to $1.65 billion). Although they have customers who are much bigger than this too.
<h3>What does their suite cover?</h3>
At its core, Onventis is a source-to-pay suite but its functionality is more wide reaching than this. Their sourcing module goes right through to offer auctions, as well as basic contract management functionality.

There are also additional applications covering supplier and risk management, as well as the catalogues and e-procurement functionality associated with the traditional full stack P2P offerings.
<h3>How do they fare against some of the enterprise suites?</h3>
Frank agrees that towards the upper end of their customer base, they are playing on the same turf as some of the more well-known enterprise level procurement suite providers.

There has already been a lot of consolidation in this market, and Onventis has also been no stranger to this.

Their recent acquisition of Swedish spend analytics platform Spendency, along with an invoice automation platform called Workflow Wise who were acquired by Onventis two years ago. My interview with Arvid Fredin, who was Spendency's CEO prior to the acquisition, can be found in Episode 24 of the podcast.

As a German company, it's no surprise to learn that 70% of Onventis' customers are in a SAP ecosystem. This enables them to offer fully standardised integration with SAP, when so much of their business comes from customers already using SAP as their ERP system. Coming into contact with Ariba and Coupa is also commonplace.
<h3>Why go for a suite vs. 2 or 3 best-of-breed solutions bolted together?</h3>
Customers in this segment are always somewhat more price sensitive than enterprise customers, and the "time to value" is key in terms of seeing the ROI on their investment.

Time to implementation is key, as is the ability to pick and choose which modules of the suite to purchase in the initial phase. Customers often want to see proof of concept or run a pilot and to see a positive return on their price to performance ratio.

Offering modularity allows companies to tackle their digital transformation in a piece-by-piece way by capturing the most added value at first and then building on this.
<h3>How much greenfield business is still out there?</h3>
There isn't much greenfield business out there, which kind of surprised me a little when Frank said this. Most of the business they see is replacement business or expansion business in one form or another.

Frank sees a lot of legacy tech, fragmented systems and botched transformations out there. Much of the technology is siloed, such as invoice automation in Accounts Payable, which is an area they often come across and are asked to consolidate into their suite approach.

There is also a differentiation in the various industry sectors. Industrial manufacturing industries such as automotive are often ahead of their counterparts in service industries, where Frank still sees a fair bit of greenfield business and very immature procurement functions.

He also makes the point that mid-sized businesses are typically leaner and less bureaucratic than large corporates and can implement faster, meaning that decisions are taken on investment rather than being consistently postponed.
<h3>What about data quality: Is this an obstacle to sales?</h3>
Data is a huge topic, but it's something which procurement teams can no longer ignore. Frank cites the example of the need to make inroads in terms of measuring CO2 reduction as part of companies' sustainability initiatives.

40% of the mid-sized businesses that Onventis surveyed as part of their annual barometer of market research did not have a formal supplier qualification process in place, nor did they have a plan for climate neutral goals.

Frank therefore makes the point that lack of process maturity is arguably a bigger issue than poor quality data.
<h3>What explains the lack of process?</h3>
It can be a mixture of two things:
<ol>
 	<li>A lack of voice for procurement at board level;</li>
 	<li>Missing digital and data analysis capabilities within procurement teams of this size</li>
</ol><br/>
Internal SRM systems are usually spreadsheet based and often don't have connections to external data feeds and market intelligence, which can improve and complement the data.

Frank talks a bit about the forthcoming supply chain law in Germany, the "Lieferkettengesetz", which comes into force in January 2023.
<h3>How does implementation differ based on different customers and industry sectors?</h3>
While there will always be challenges and differences in the sales process and cycle between different sectors and procurement maturity, Frank sees the biggest challenge almost universally to be the change management and digital skills capabilities within procurement teams.

Getting to the sale is one thing, but there seems to consistently be a skills shortage when it comes to the hard digital skills, along with the soft skills of change management, communication and influence.

Acknowledging this has led Onventis to include their implementation consulting team as part of the sales process.

Depending on where a customer has the most pain will usually dictate the departments and stakeholders who are heavily involved in the sourcing process.

70% of the requests and sales enquiries they see are actually originating from procurement teams, even if the push is coming from e.g. the need for more invoice automation which is typically managed by finance.
<h3>What about their technology roadmap</h3>
Frank cites three key areas where they are developing or improving:
<ol>
 	<li>Working with their supplier network to ensure that the platform remains competitive for a UX perspective for sellers to use. Catalogue integration and usability is a key area of focus. They have a direct integration with Amazon business and generic search APIs across other networks and marketplace platforms to enable guided buying.</li>
 	<li>Opening their network to third party platforms to enable enrichment of supplier data as part of SRM enhancements and ongoing need to have more transparency and improved data reliability for ESG initiatives.</li>
 	<li>Growing out the AI capabilities of Spendency, their recent spend analytics acquisition, and integrating this into the wider Onventis modular offering.</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidtfrank/">Connect with Frank on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.onventis.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Onventis' website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">30d869c4-de44-45c9-a9cf-0dfc6bb2f22c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/da7470ff-a17a-43ed-8fb3-45d305129374/Procuretech-20ep-2034-20Frank-20Schmidt.mp3" length="26737520" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procuretech: Past, Present and Future – Dr. Elouise Epstein from Kearney</title><itunes:title>Procuretech: Past, Present and Future – Dr. Elouise Epstein from Kearney</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[My guest this week on The Procuretech Pub requires no introduction to anyone who is familiar with the digital procurement space. Dr. Elouise Epstein is Partner at Kearney in San Francisco and author of the book <a href="https://www.kearney.com/procurement/trade-wars-pandemics-and-chaos">Trade Wars, Pandemics and Chaos: How Digital Procurement Enables Business Success in a Disordered World</a>.

We have an informal and very open discussion about procurement technology's past, present and what direction the future trends are moving in this space.
<h2>Procuretech's evolution, where it's at and where we're headed: The Procuretech Pub with Dr. Elouise Epstein</h2>
Elouise begins by giving a whistle stop tour of her career and some of the things she's seen in the digital procurement space along the way.

From its beginnings, where best of breed led the way, through the rise of the suites and now to a more emerging hybrid model.

She explains how around 2013, Kearney began receiving calls from enterprises who had implemented what I now often refer to as "legacy suites", saying that users didn't want to use them and they weren't seeing their return on investment. It wasn't really until 2020, where Covid definitely seems to have given the market a push, that organisations started to adopt more of a "platform-based" approach with an increasing emphasis on a best-of-breed tech ecosystem.
<h3>Elouise's "spider diagrams" and the current "platform" trend</h3>
"The suites failed to deliver and there is legacy sunk cost investment" and as a result of that, often these suites are used as a platform from which companies build out their tech stack.

Elouise is a big critic of the big suite approach and is an advocate of the platform approach, where this is built upon through best-of-breed technology. We just don't have 100% the ideal, perfect platform that we need just yet. The software used as a platform has ended up being in that role kind of by default, and there isn't a system built to act as a platform in its core function just yet.

Building their own platform can also be an option for very large enterprises who have the IT capabilities in-house to do this. This is an approach for the brave / well resourced IT departments, but advantage of this strategy is that each "module" can easily be exchanged. Using a legacy suite as the platform doesn't allow this to happen as easily for P2P, or S2C to some extent.
<h3>Will the legacy suites survive this pivot?</h3>
I ask Elouise what the future holds for these suite providers with this market backdrop. While the market leaders are secure, especially with <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/sap-ariba-coupa-marketplaces/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="5">SAP Ariba and Coupa</a> having implemented App Stores to allow easy bolt-ons and integrations for best-of-breed solutions, some of the others are "under duress. She sees the suite market as being "propped up" to some extent.

Who will come in to challenge the market leaders? Will someone from outside procuretech come in to challenge them, such as Salesforce or AWS?

And, where will the others go if they survive this? It could be that they pivot more towards the mid market, but that would obviously mean a significant realignment of their pricing model and features offered in order to compete and flourish in this market segment.
<h3>How useful or reliable are the "best-of" lists when evaluating the market?</h3>
Elouise is openly critical of analysts and consultants in general and sees the hype as being self-serving.

She starts off by saying she's not a fan of 2x2 evaluations because they create artificial markets rather that have to fit into that specific evaluation framework. Much of the innovation doesn't neatly fit into a box, and innovation is constantly changing as the market evolves.

How the data is being used and how the evaluations are put together is important to be able to truly appreciate and evaluate which procurement software is best for a specific business, based on their own unique, individual criteria.

Keeping on top of the market evaluations and maintaining relevance of these lists is a mammoth task. Inevitably, there will be imperfections. The needs and requirements of enterprise level clients will be vastly different to those of the mid market.

Knowing enough to be dangerous and not being completely reliant on the reports and content of third party research is key to leveraging the information they provide, while not blindly trusting it without the adequate due diligence on how it's been put together.
<h3>Teach a man to fish...</h3>
If they have limited means and limited budget, where does the procurement practitioner start?

There is some up-skilling required. Gone are the days where half an FTE manages digital transformation along with their regular day job as IT Category Manager or Centre of Excellence Leader.

Hiring consultants can often unwittingly foster bias in the process due to "foxes guarding the hen house", where there are systems integrators, analysts and tech providers who are very closely in step with one another.

By not outsourcing the decision making to third parties, this enables the company to reduce the possibility of bias or influence and maintain objectivity and neutrality.
<h3>The dangers of sponsored content, and choosing the "safe" option</h3>
We discuss how sometimes it's hard to figure out which content is sponsored, and which articles are biased. There is definitely a lack of transparency around who is "paying to play" and how this is documented in content such as white papers, blogs, reports and awards that we see.

While on the one hand, conference sponsors are easy to spot, it also leads to the risks of opting for the safe, established legacy brand which offers less innovation than one of the more disruptive startups.

Sponsorship of expensive events and reports provides a springboard, and while procurement is not the only industry where this happens, it can often stifle innovation.

There's a difference between not getting fired through choosing the safe option, and <strong>truly succeeding</strong> in your digital transformation by opting for a disruptive .
<h3>How will the skill set change for procurement teams?</h3>
The skills that Procurement were historically trained on are being digitised. Elouise believes that the Category Manager role will diminish to some extent, although perhaps not in every single category of spend that is managed.

Instead of hiring data scientists to come and do procurement, what is more likely to result in success will be procurement professionals being more open to acquire some of these new skills. That doesn't mean we all have to become programmers and mathematicians, but it certainly requires an up-skilling and an increase in analytical capabilities.

Good user experience and automation is going to be central to how technology is adopted by businesses as we move forward.
<h3>Where does procuretech have its biggest growth potential?</h3>
Elouise predicts that the mid-market will digitise and adopt this technology faster than enterprise because the growing pains and adjustments have already happened. Also, given the fewer layers of management and shorter decision-making, once a company decides to adopt it, the implementation should happen quicker.

On the enterprise side, the huge sector that is kind of squished under the ESG banner has the biggest potential. Elouise remarks that it's a disservice to categorise everything in this space so generally, and specifically calls out:
<ol>
 	<li>Sustainability initiatives</li>
 	<li>Risk and resilience</li>
 	<li>Advanced value optimisation / supplier partnerships</li>
</ol><br/>
She signs off by saying that none of these are first and foremost involved in driving cost savings, and are rather focused on delivering total value and avoiding unexpected costs to the business.

Procurement's reason to exist is to deal with and manage third party vendors, and as such, we're the best department to be leading and driving this space!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drelouise/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Elouise on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.kearney.com/procurement/trade-wars-pandemics-and-chaos">Link to Elouise's book</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
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</div>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[My guest this week on The Procuretech Pub requires no introduction to anyone who is familiar with the digital procurement space. Dr. Elouise Epstein is Partner at Kearney in San Francisco and author of the book <a href="https://www.kearney.com/procurement/trade-wars-pandemics-and-chaos">Trade Wars, Pandemics and Chaos: How Digital Procurement Enables Business Success in a Disordered World</a>.

We have an informal and very open discussion about procurement technology's past, present and what direction the future trends are moving in this space.
<h2>Procuretech's evolution, where it's at and where we're headed: The Procuretech Pub with Dr. Elouise Epstein</h2>
Elouise begins by giving a whistle stop tour of her career and some of the things she's seen in the digital procurement space along the way.

From its beginnings, where best of breed led the way, through the rise of the suites and now to a more emerging hybrid model.

She explains how around 2013, Kearney began receiving calls from enterprises who had implemented what I now often refer to as "legacy suites", saying that users didn't want to use them and they weren't seeing their return on investment. It wasn't really until 2020, where Covid definitely seems to have given the market a push, that organisations started to adopt more of a "platform-based" approach with an increasing emphasis on a best-of-breed tech ecosystem.
<h3>Elouise's "spider diagrams" and the current "platform" trend</h3>
"The suites failed to deliver and there is legacy sunk cost investment" and as a result of that, often these suites are used as a platform from which companies build out their tech stack.

Elouise is a big critic of the big suite approach and is an advocate of the platform approach, where this is built upon through best-of-breed technology. We just don't have 100% the ideal, perfect platform that we need just yet. The software used as a platform has ended up being in that role kind of by default, and there isn't a system built to act as a platform in its core function just yet.

Building their own platform can also be an option for very large enterprises who have the IT capabilities in-house to do this. This is an approach for the brave / well resourced IT departments, but advantage of this strategy is that each "module" can easily be exchanged. Using a legacy suite as the platform doesn't allow this to happen as easily for P2P, or S2C to some extent.
<h3>Will the legacy suites survive this pivot?</h3>
I ask Elouise what the future holds for these suite providers with this market backdrop. While the market leaders are secure, especially with <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/blog/sap-ariba-coupa-marketplaces/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-wpil-monitor-id="5">SAP Ariba and Coupa</a> having implemented App Stores to allow easy bolt-ons and integrations for best-of-breed solutions, some of the others are "under duress. She sees the suite market as being "propped up" to some extent.

Who will come in to challenge the market leaders? Will someone from outside procuretech come in to challenge them, such as Salesforce or AWS?

And, where will the others go if they survive this? It could be that they pivot more towards the mid market, but that would obviously mean a significant realignment of their pricing model and features offered in order to compete and flourish in this market segment.
<h3>How useful or reliable are the "best-of" lists when evaluating the market?</h3>
Elouise is openly critical of analysts and consultants in general and sees the hype as being self-serving.

She starts off by saying she's not a fan of 2x2 evaluations because they create artificial markets rather that have to fit into that specific evaluation framework. Much of the innovation doesn't neatly fit into a box, and innovation is constantly changing as the market evolves.

How the data is being used and how the evaluations are put together is important to be able to truly appreciate and evaluate which procurement software is best for a specific business, based on their own unique, individual criteria.

Keeping on top of the market evaluations and maintaining relevance of these lists is a mammoth task. Inevitably, there will be imperfections. The needs and requirements of enterprise level clients will be vastly different to those of the mid market.

Knowing enough to be dangerous and not being completely reliant on the reports and content of third party research is key to leveraging the information they provide, while not blindly trusting it without the adequate due diligence on how it's been put together.
<h3>Teach a man to fish...</h3>
If they have limited means and limited budget, where does the procurement practitioner start?

There is some up-skilling required. Gone are the days where half an FTE manages digital transformation along with their regular day job as IT Category Manager or Centre of Excellence Leader.

Hiring consultants can often unwittingly foster bias in the process due to "foxes guarding the hen house", where there are systems integrators, analysts and tech providers who are very closely in step with one another.

By not outsourcing the decision making to third parties, this enables the company to reduce the possibility of bias or influence and maintain objectivity and neutrality.
<h3>The dangers of sponsored content, and choosing the "safe" option</h3>
We discuss how sometimes it's hard to figure out which content is sponsored, and which articles are biased. There is definitely a lack of transparency around who is "paying to play" and how this is documented in content such as white papers, blogs, reports and awards that we see.

While on the one hand, conference sponsors are easy to spot, it also leads to the risks of opting for the safe, established legacy brand which offers less innovation than one of the more disruptive startups.

Sponsorship of expensive events and reports provides a springboard, and while procurement is not the only industry where this happens, it can often stifle innovation.

There's a difference between not getting fired through choosing the safe option, and <strong>truly succeeding</strong> in your digital transformation by opting for a disruptive .
<h3>How will the skill set change for procurement teams?</h3>
The skills that Procurement were historically trained on are being digitised. Elouise believes that the Category Manager role will diminish to some extent, although perhaps not in every single category of spend that is managed.

Instead of hiring data scientists to come and do procurement, what is more likely to result in success will be procurement professionals being more open to acquire some of these new skills. That doesn't mean we all have to become programmers and mathematicians, but it certainly requires an up-skilling and an increase in analytical capabilities.

Good user experience and automation is going to be central to how technology is adopted by businesses as we move forward.
<h3>Where does procuretech have its biggest growth potential?</h3>
Elouise predicts that the mid-market will digitise and adopt this technology faster than enterprise because the growing pains and adjustments have already happened. Also, given the fewer layers of management and shorter decision-making, once a company decides to adopt it, the implementation should happen quicker.

On the enterprise side, the huge sector that is kind of squished under the ESG banner has the biggest potential. Elouise remarks that it's a disservice to categorise everything in this space so generally, and specifically calls out:
<ol>
 	<li>Sustainability initiatives</li>
 	<li>Risk and resilience</li>
 	<li>Advanced value optimisation / supplier partnerships</li>
</ol><br/>
She signs off by saying that none of these are first and foremost involved in driving cost savings, and are rather focused on delivering total value and avoiding unexpected costs to the business.

Procurement's reason to exist is to deal with and manage third party vendors, and as such, we're the best department to be leading and driving this space!
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drelouise/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Elouise on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.kearney.com/procurement/trade-wars-pandemics-and-chaos">Link to Elouise's book</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
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</div>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1fcae774-1568-4e9e-9272-1daa30722f5d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8105e2ca-5fd3-498d-8a81-53e15b218488/Procuretech-20pub-20April-202022.mp3" length="41034546" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>56:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Guided Contract Authoring and Routing – Giles Thompson from Avvoka</title><itunes:title>Guided Contract Authoring and Routing – Giles Thompson from Avvoka</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[The relationship between Procurement and Legal can often be somewhat strained. Procurement's hands are tied because they have to seek legal support. Legal typically is under-resourced to serve the growing needs of procurement teams, especially when Sales often gets priority in the internal legal support pecking order.

My guest today is Giles Thompson, Chief Growth Officer of London-based contract process automation tool Avvoka. We discuss how both teams can work smarter with the right tech to improve relationships, free up time and ditch the repetitive tasks.
<h2>Improving Procurement and Legal team relationships and workflows thanks to automated and smart processes</h2>
Giles is a lawyer by trade and educational background, and so is great to approach this discussion from someone on the "other side of the fence" so to speak.

He tells the story of how in his short time dealing with procurement professionals, he often found himself offering the same advice and amending the exact same clauses each time he was asked to get involved in a contract negotiation process.

Avvoka as a solution essentially helps to simplify and automate this process by enabling the buyer (or the seller for that matter) to generate a contract template by answering questions as part of a guided process to determine the risk and thus the level of complexity required in numerous different contract scenarios.
<h3>Why is Legal such a bottleneck in large enterprises?</h3>
Legal is being asked to weigh in on more and more different processes and requirements, but the headcount is not being increased to the necessary level to cope with this.

Procurement, likewise, is being expected to do more with less, and as such this creates the classic bottleneck and frustration that goes with it.

Whereas in reality, the vast majority of contracts don't need to go to Legal for the green light or for very straightforward, commercially driven amendments. Having the ability to use a self-service portal that generates or inserts the necessary contract clauses depending on the specific requirements can save time, money and unnecessary frustration.
<h3>The power of aggregated data</h3>
Giles makes a great point that through having a platform that tracks and documents each time a counterparty redlines something in a standard contract or requests changes, this is stored in a central database.

If it's costing time and money to renegotiate a particularly troublesome clause every single contract negotiation, then perhaps there's a valid argument to just swallow this as something that most vendors just won't accept, and move on with a more realistic contract template that's likely to be adopted.

How many times have we clashed heads with different suppliers over the exact same standard contract clause, every single time?! Over time, the template then becomes more workable and less likely to cause conflict during negotiations.
<h3>How to simplify and self-serve legal advice to buyers</h3>
Often a procurement professional will not feel comfortable negotiating certain (more legal-specific) clauses in a contract. Especially if they don't have a formal procurement or contracting background and have not been trained in commercial contract management.

Giles gives examples of how a tool like Avvoka can enable self-serve advice directly in the platform. He gives the example of liability clauses, and how embedded videos from in-house Legal, along with various different templates, can offer a "grocery store" environment to pick the best clause according to perceived level of risk and buyer vs. supplier power balance within the negotiation.

The classic "work smarter, not harder" opportunity.
<h3>Dealing with supplier generated (third party paper) contracts</h3>
Avvoka is geared up to work on native contract formats but can also work with third party contracts. Controlling the platform that the contract is being negotiated on can often be a small win, especially if you're forced due to relative supplier power over you as the buyer to work on third party paper.

The collaboration and negotiation function within the platform can speed up and make more transparent the whole process, regardless of the contract format that's being used.
<h3>Contract negotiations without a single email being sent?</h3>
I ask Giles to walk through a the process of negotiating a fairly standard contract versus a relatively complex IT or professional services contract.

His answer is surprising in that the workflow and steps are pretty similar. It's possible in all cases to complete the end-to-end process in Avvoka and without the need to send emails to and from the supplier.

The final part, which is obviously the approval and signature, can be seamlessly integrated into best-in-class, popular SaaS products such as DocuSign, Adobe Sign and other similar solutions.
<h3>But then how many companies are actually mature enough to utilise a tool like Avvoka to its full potential?</h3>
There will always be the case that the more mature the organisation in terms of both legal and procurement maturity, the better the solution will work. Nonetheless, there are still advantages to be gained through automation and guided contracting.

The key is having the right contract templates authored, and having buyers who are smart enough to understand which ones should be taken in which scenarios.

A very immature or decentralised procurement team, working with a very skeleton legal department or even external counsels, is going to struggle a lot more than a company that's had a corporate procurement and in-house legal team in situ for a while.
<h3>Tracking changes: how and where?</h3>
Any changes made to a contract can be done completely within the Avvoka platform.

There is a single source of truth whereby the system will automatically track who has changed what, with a complete control of versions being used. The risk of loss of integrity between switching around different versions of a saved Word document is eliminated through using this, or any other central, cloud-based platform.
<h3>Who would Avvoka be suited to?</h3>
In theory, it can be used by smaller and medium-sized businesses who would still quickly see a payback. Pricing is based per user and have different scales of packages depending on features and complexity.

There's almost the argument to say the ROI is easier to calculate in organisations that don't have in-house legal teams, because the cost of engaging an external counsel can be reconciled against invoices submitted.

Whereas on the other hand, the savings gained in large enterprises that have an in-house legal department are likely going to be more on the time, performance and efficiency side vs. hard P&amp;L visible benefits.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<div data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilesathompson/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Giles on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://avvoka.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Avvoka's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
</div>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[The relationship between Procurement and Legal can often be somewhat strained. Procurement's hands are tied because they have to seek legal support. Legal typically is under-resourced to serve the growing needs of procurement teams, especially when Sales often gets priority in the internal legal support pecking order.

My guest today is Giles Thompson, Chief Growth Officer of London-based contract process automation tool Avvoka. We discuss how both teams can work smarter with the right tech to improve relationships, free up time and ditch the repetitive tasks.
<h2>Improving Procurement and Legal team relationships and workflows thanks to automated and smart processes</h2>
Giles is a lawyer by trade and educational background, and so is great to approach this discussion from someone on the "other side of the fence" so to speak.

He tells the story of how in his short time dealing with procurement professionals, he often found himself offering the same advice and amending the exact same clauses each time he was asked to get involved in a contract negotiation process.

Avvoka as a solution essentially helps to simplify and automate this process by enabling the buyer (or the seller for that matter) to generate a contract template by answering questions as part of a guided process to determine the risk and thus the level of complexity required in numerous different contract scenarios.
<h3>Why is Legal such a bottleneck in large enterprises?</h3>
Legal is being asked to weigh in on more and more different processes and requirements, but the headcount is not being increased to the necessary level to cope with this.

Procurement, likewise, is being expected to do more with less, and as such this creates the classic bottleneck and frustration that goes with it.

Whereas in reality, the vast majority of contracts don't need to go to Legal for the green light or for very straightforward, commercially driven amendments. Having the ability to use a self-service portal that generates or inserts the necessary contract clauses depending on the specific requirements can save time, money and unnecessary frustration.
<h3>The power of aggregated data</h3>
Giles makes a great point that through having a platform that tracks and documents each time a counterparty redlines something in a standard contract or requests changes, this is stored in a central database.

If it's costing time and money to renegotiate a particularly troublesome clause every single contract negotiation, then perhaps there's a valid argument to just swallow this as something that most vendors just won't accept, and move on with a more realistic contract template that's likely to be adopted.

How many times have we clashed heads with different suppliers over the exact same standard contract clause, every single time?! Over time, the template then becomes more workable and less likely to cause conflict during negotiations.
<h3>How to simplify and self-serve legal advice to buyers</h3>
Often a procurement professional will not feel comfortable negotiating certain (more legal-specific) clauses in a contract. Especially if they don't have a formal procurement or contracting background and have not been trained in commercial contract management.

Giles gives examples of how a tool like Avvoka can enable self-serve advice directly in the platform. He gives the example of liability clauses, and how embedded videos from in-house Legal, along with various different templates, can offer a "grocery store" environment to pick the best clause according to perceived level of risk and buyer vs. supplier power balance within the negotiation.

The classic "work smarter, not harder" opportunity.
<h3>Dealing with supplier generated (third party paper) contracts</h3>
Avvoka is geared up to work on native contract formats but can also work with third party contracts. Controlling the platform that the contract is being negotiated on can often be a small win, especially if you're forced due to relative supplier power over you as the buyer to work on third party paper.

The collaboration and negotiation function within the platform can speed up and make more transparent the whole process, regardless of the contract format that's being used.
<h3>Contract negotiations without a single email being sent?</h3>
I ask Giles to walk through a the process of negotiating a fairly standard contract versus a relatively complex IT or professional services contract.

His answer is surprising in that the workflow and steps are pretty similar. It's possible in all cases to complete the end-to-end process in Avvoka and without the need to send emails to and from the supplier.

The final part, which is obviously the approval and signature, can be seamlessly integrated into best-in-class, popular SaaS products such as DocuSign, Adobe Sign and other similar solutions.
<h3>But then how many companies are actually mature enough to utilise a tool like Avvoka to its full potential?</h3>
There will always be the case that the more mature the organisation in terms of both legal and procurement maturity, the better the solution will work. Nonetheless, there are still advantages to be gained through automation and guided contracting.

The key is having the right contract templates authored, and having buyers who are smart enough to understand which ones should be taken in which scenarios.

A very immature or decentralised procurement team, working with a very skeleton legal department or even external counsels, is going to struggle a lot more than a company that's had a corporate procurement and in-house legal team in situ for a while.
<h3>Tracking changes: how and where?</h3>
Any changes made to a contract can be done completely within the Avvoka platform.

There is a single source of truth whereby the system will automatically track who has changed what, with a complete control of versions being used. The risk of loss of integrity between switching around different versions of a saved Word document is eliminated through using this, or any other central, cloud-based platform.
<h3>Who would Avvoka be suited to?</h3>
In theory, it can be used by smaller and medium-sized businesses who would still quickly see a payback. Pricing is based per user and have different scales of packages depending on features and complexity.

There's almost the argument to say the ROI is easier to calculate in organisations that don't have in-house legal teams, because the cost of engaging an external counsel can be reconciled against invoices submitted.

Whereas on the other hand, the savings gained in large enterprises that have an in-house legal department are likely going to be more on the time, performance and efficiency side vs. hard P&amp;L visible benefits.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<div data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilesathompson/" rev="en_rl_none">Connect with Giles on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://avvoka.com/" rev="en_rl_none">Visit Avvoka's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
</div>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cf7c13fc-6af0-4986-959d-177728486d58</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9b1e09e1-b504-4b97-a798-152776173bb0/Procuretech-20ep-2032-20Giles-20Thompson.mp3" length="30902588" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI-Powered Contract Redline – Dan Broderick from BlackBoiler</title><itunes:title>AI-Powered Contract Redline – Dan Broderick from BlackBoiler</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We're diving in again to the ever-expanding contract management space this week, looking at a piece of software that straddles the murky waters between procuretech and legaltech.

Redlining and amending contracts is a boring and tedious process to most procurement professionals, but a necessary evil that comes with the territory for commercial contract negotiations post-sourcing and award.

My guest this week to break down how technology can get us to our destination faster is Dan Broderick, CEO and Co-Founder of Washington DC-based legaltech start-up BlackBoiler.
<h2>Utilising AI to speed up and simplify your contract clause redlining process</h2>
I start off by asking Dan about who he typically sees as being the customer's job title in the roles that they sell to, with this being a more legal-focused solution, and to what extent Procurement features in this. We then move on to some of the key features that BlackBoiler offers to set the scene of what it can actually do to aid us as procurement professionals to speed up an otherwise cumbersome and tedious task.
<h3>What is Black Boiler's sweet spot?</h3>
There's a lot of contract management software now on the market and it's becoming an increasingly crowded space.

Dan sees BlackBoiler's sweet spot as being a contract negotiation automation software that helps customer and supplier get to the point of a mutually acceptable negotiated position on contracts, through the use of automation on changes to standard contract copy.

This can be applied on both native contracts and third party documents.

Both Legal and Procurement alike are seen to Dan as being potential "buyers" in this space. Also Sales to some extent are involved in the conversation because they're often struggling to conclude contracts fast enough to satisfy customer expectations.
<h3>What inspired Dan to found BlackBoiler?</h3>
As a lawyer, he found that he was often tasked with negotiating contracts that were very similar, and was responding to very similar counter-party positions and redline in these documents.

After getting the feeling that his work felt more than a touch robotic, it made him realise that a significant part of his job could potentially be automated to free up time and to speed up the process.
<h3>Are the must-have features different when viewed from a sales, procurement or legal perspective?</h3>
YES!

Dan explains that the key challenges tend to be:
<ul>
 	<li>Self-empowering Sales to avoid them having to go to legal and potentially lose a sale due to the bottleneck.</li>
 	<li>Enabling Legal do their work faster, and looking at how can they make their work less repetitive.</li>
 	<li>Procurement is working with a business need for them to purchase something. As the gatekeeper, speeding up the end-to-end Source-to-Contract process is key.</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How to bridge the gap between AI, and the professional expertise of the lawyer?</h3>
Dan explains that BlackBoiler (or indeed any AI-powered solution for that matter) is not designed to work on its own. The objective is to speed up the process and enable arrival at the destination faster, not to eliminate Legal from the process completely.

Helping the legal counsel to become more efficient and free up their resources to work more strategically is the overarching objective. By enabling them to not be actively involved in fairly routine higher volume, lower risk agreements will add value to both Procurement and Legal alike.

Dan likens this to using a junior counsel rather than a highly experienced legal professional for more routine agreements.
<h3>What about greenfield or decentralised procurement with no standard contract templates?</h3>
This is an area where it's difficult to apply the typical solution that BlackBoiler would go in and solve. Dan mentions that they're currently working on building something that will enable new or less structured procurement teams to go in and generate some standard clauses based on some standard intake questions.

The solution isn't ready for market yet at the time of publishing but watch this space was his comment!
<h3>If lawyers wrote contacts in plain English, would this alleviate the need for such tools?</h3>
So, I've got to be honest, I've been waiting to ask someone with a legal background this question on the podcast for a while now.

His answer is that nobody in Legal sits at a computer, opens up a blank Word document, and starts composing a contract from scratch. The reality is that most contracts are a muddle of existing, previously agreed to documents and clauses which are usually chopped, changed and adapted for the specific requirements of that specific buyer / supplier relationship.

There is no difference whether a contract originates from third party paper or an internal standard contract template which has been redlined by the supplier.
<h3>Is there a full stack CLM suite that does everything?</h3>
In short, no.

It's similar to the suites vs. best-of-breed debate in procuretech. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, but through the increasing adoption of APIs and easy integration, it's possible to get different legaltech solutions to speak to each other.

The person who is responsible for the implementation must be aware of this and be mindful of the need to perhaps look at more than one solution, if there is a need and an expectation to cover all aspects of contract management within their digital transformation journey.

Implementation and customer success is key. Dan mentions that many software solutions in his opinion are way too focused on marketing and product development, and too little time is spent on ensuring that the client is happy with and able to get the most out of the software they have purchased.
<h3>Who is the customer, and how to differentiate the sales and marketing message in order to resonate?</h3>
This is a space where websites and sales campaigns have to incorporate many different potential decision makers. It's not the same as selling e-sourcing software, where Procurement is pretty much the default end customer and user.

Here, a solutions provider in theory has to appeal to Legal, Sales AND Procurement all in one.

So, how does a software company tailor their marketing, content, copy and outreach to speak everyone's language?!

Everyone's contracting function is going to be different. No two organisations are the same. This makes the sales process much less prescriptive. For example, in some cases, Procurement does certain tasks that Legal would be responsible for in other companies.

Some solutions, BlackBoiler included, tend to trend more towards Legal as the key decision maker, whereas other contract-focused software may be somewhat more generic or more tailored towards Sales or Procurement.

Dan rounds off the interview by talking about how the contracting function could perhaps benefit from becoming a little bit more streamlined or joined-up in many organisations to ensure that the whole process is somewhat smoother.
<h3>What size of business does BlackBoiler's solution serve?</h3>
It's generally a more enterprise-focused solution, with clients typically being organisations who are doing $1 billion and above in annual revenue.

Also, another stream of revenue is focusing on large legal services providers (some of the big law firms) who are typically dealing with enterprise contracts on behalf of their corporate clients.

With that being said, they are also looking at making the solution more within reach of mid-sized businesses. In theory, this could drastically reduce spend on legal services, by just sending out the most complex contracts for external counsel support.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-broderick-blackboiler/">Connect with Dan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.blackboiler.com/">Visit BlackBoiler's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We're diving in again to the ever-expanding contract management space this week, looking at a piece of software that straddles the murky waters between procuretech and legaltech.

Redlining and amending contracts is a boring and tedious process to most procurement professionals, but a necessary evil that comes with the territory for commercial contract negotiations post-sourcing and award.

My guest this week to break down how technology can get us to our destination faster is Dan Broderick, CEO and Co-Founder of Washington DC-based legaltech start-up BlackBoiler.
<h2>Utilising AI to speed up and simplify your contract clause redlining process</h2>
I start off by asking Dan about who he typically sees as being the customer's job title in the roles that they sell to, with this being a more legal-focused solution, and to what extent Procurement features in this. We then move on to some of the key features that BlackBoiler offers to set the scene of what it can actually do to aid us as procurement professionals to speed up an otherwise cumbersome and tedious task.
<h3>What is Black Boiler's sweet spot?</h3>
There's a lot of contract management software now on the market and it's becoming an increasingly crowded space.

Dan sees BlackBoiler's sweet spot as being a contract negotiation automation software that helps customer and supplier get to the point of a mutually acceptable negotiated position on contracts, through the use of automation on changes to standard contract copy.

This can be applied on both native contracts and third party documents.

Both Legal and Procurement alike are seen to Dan as being potential "buyers" in this space. Also Sales to some extent are involved in the conversation because they're often struggling to conclude contracts fast enough to satisfy customer expectations.
<h3>What inspired Dan to found BlackBoiler?</h3>
As a lawyer, he found that he was often tasked with negotiating contracts that were very similar, and was responding to very similar counter-party positions and redline in these documents.

After getting the feeling that his work felt more than a touch robotic, it made him realise that a significant part of his job could potentially be automated to free up time and to speed up the process.
<h3>Are the must-have features different when viewed from a sales, procurement or legal perspective?</h3>
YES!

Dan explains that the key challenges tend to be:
<ul>
 	<li>Self-empowering Sales to avoid them having to go to legal and potentially lose a sale due to the bottleneck.</li>
 	<li>Enabling Legal do their work faster, and looking at how can they make their work less repetitive.</li>
 	<li>Procurement is working with a business need for them to purchase something. As the gatekeeper, speeding up the end-to-end Source-to-Contract process is key.</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How to bridge the gap between AI, and the professional expertise of the lawyer?</h3>
Dan explains that BlackBoiler (or indeed any AI-powered solution for that matter) is not designed to work on its own. The objective is to speed up the process and enable arrival at the destination faster, not to eliminate Legal from the process completely.

Helping the legal counsel to become more efficient and free up their resources to work more strategically is the overarching objective. By enabling them to not be actively involved in fairly routine higher volume, lower risk agreements will add value to both Procurement and Legal alike.

Dan likens this to using a junior counsel rather than a highly experienced legal professional for more routine agreements.
<h3>What about greenfield or decentralised procurement with no standard contract templates?</h3>
This is an area where it's difficult to apply the typical solution that BlackBoiler would go in and solve. Dan mentions that they're currently working on building something that will enable new or less structured procurement teams to go in and generate some standard clauses based on some standard intake questions.

The solution isn't ready for market yet at the time of publishing but watch this space was his comment!
<h3>If lawyers wrote contacts in plain English, would this alleviate the need for such tools?</h3>
So, I've got to be honest, I've been waiting to ask someone with a legal background this question on the podcast for a while now.

His answer is that nobody in Legal sits at a computer, opens up a blank Word document, and starts composing a contract from scratch. The reality is that most contracts are a muddle of existing, previously agreed to documents and clauses which are usually chopped, changed and adapted for the specific requirements of that specific buyer / supplier relationship.

There is no difference whether a contract originates from third party paper or an internal standard contract template which has been redlined by the supplier.
<h3>Is there a full stack CLM suite that does everything?</h3>
In short, no.

It's similar to the suites vs. best-of-breed debate in procuretech. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, but through the increasing adoption of APIs and easy integration, it's possible to get different legaltech solutions to speak to each other.

The person who is responsible for the implementation must be aware of this and be mindful of the need to perhaps look at more than one solution, if there is a need and an expectation to cover all aspects of contract management within their digital transformation journey.

Implementation and customer success is key. Dan mentions that many software solutions in his opinion are way too focused on marketing and product development, and too little time is spent on ensuring that the client is happy with and able to get the most out of the software they have purchased.
<h3>Who is the customer, and how to differentiate the sales and marketing message in order to resonate?</h3>
This is a space where websites and sales campaigns have to incorporate many different potential decision makers. It's not the same as selling e-sourcing software, where Procurement is pretty much the default end customer and user.

Here, a solutions provider in theory has to appeal to Legal, Sales AND Procurement all in one.

So, how does a software company tailor their marketing, content, copy and outreach to speak everyone's language?!

Everyone's contracting function is going to be different. No two organisations are the same. This makes the sales process much less prescriptive. For example, in some cases, Procurement does certain tasks that Legal would be responsible for in other companies.

Some solutions, BlackBoiler included, tend to trend more towards Legal as the key decision maker, whereas other contract-focused software may be somewhat more generic or more tailored towards Sales or Procurement.

Dan rounds off the interview by talking about how the contracting function could perhaps benefit from becoming a little bit more streamlined or joined-up in many organisations to ensure that the whole process is somewhat smoother.
<h3>What size of business does BlackBoiler's solution serve?</h3>
It's generally a more enterprise-focused solution, with clients typically being organisations who are doing $1 billion and above in annual revenue.

Also, another stream of revenue is focusing on large legal services providers (some of the big law firms) who are typically dealing with enterprise contracts on behalf of their corporate clients.

With that being said, they are also looking at making the solution more within reach of mid-sized businesses. In theory, this could drastically reduce spend on legal services, by just sending out the most complex contracts for external counsel support.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-broderick-blackboiler/">Connect with Dan on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.blackboiler.com/">Visit BlackBoiler's website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a3319373-2d06-43f4-9018-40186646a6e1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0b955f54-3313-41d0-bcf8-c23896e11eb9/TPP-20ep-2031-20Dan-20Broderick-20BlackBoiler.mp3" length="24267068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Managing a Contingent Workforce – Igor Putrenko and Tobi Schmidt from Eqip</title><itunes:title>Managing a Contingent Workforce – Igor Putrenko and Tobi Schmidt from Eqip</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<div data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Managing a situation where an increasing percentage of any company's workforce is composed of external, contingent workers is a challenge that many companies are already dealing with. While many more will have to figure this out pretty soon too, as they move to a more flexible labour model with the advent of the "gig economy".</div>
<div></div>
<div>How to mange this digitally, to both ensure compliant onboarding of consultancies, contractors and freelancers, as well as streamlining the administrative hassle associated with this? Tobi Schmidt and Igor Putrenko from external workforce management platform Eqip are my guests to discuss this.</div>
<h2><strong>Digitally managing the Contingent Workforce: Compliant onboarding, payroll and cost management</strong></h2>
Managing this process using dozens of different recruitment agencies, or even using individual interim managers directly, isn't realistically an efficient strategy that larger businesses can manage at scale. So, there's a recognised need to manage this more effectively.
<h3>What is already out there in terms of existing technology?</h3>
Enterprise Resource Planning tools (ERPs) such as SAP and Oracle tend to be used more for matters relating to the internal workforce. Payroll, salary info, taxes, deductions, compliance requirements and so on.

Vendor Management Systems as Igor calls them, or VMS for short, have systems and records for all external providers of services. Examples here in the more traditional enterprise software space are SAP Fieldglass, AgileOne and Beeline. Cost and lack of intuitiveness when it comes to ease of use are cited as being pitfalls of these platforms.

Whereas on the other end of the spectrum, platforms such as Upwork and Fiverr are the go-to websites for managing more traditional freelancer and small agency relationships. These are popular in the tech startup and lifestyle business space, but would not be considered as rigorous when ti comes to the needs of larger businesses with compliance and due diligence requirements.
<h3>How does Eqip differentiate their offering?</h3>
Eqip is a B2B marketplace which incorporates proper screening process, and also caters to more niche, white collar consultancy or expert professions. This is essentially the differentiation between them and more generic freelancer marketplaces.

In terms of the legacy enterprise software, they attempt to also provide this in one platform but in a more agile way, enabling a faster onboarding process for vendors.

Hard-to-find skills, such as cybersecurity experts, can be very tough to find through traditional recruitment agencies. The existing enterprise software doesn't really provide the tech to enable cross-border talent scouting and a solution to compliantly onboard them.

Eqip saw a gap in the market to fix this, by enabling Swiss companies originally to recruit hard-to-find contractors and consultants from a talent pool in Central and Eastern Europe. Furthermore, it also enables them to manage these workers if they are performing the work remotely from their home countries rather than actually needing to be on site at the client.
<h3>What are the emerging trends in this market?</h3>
On the one hand, companies struggle to find workers in their own country and simultaneously are becoming more comfortable with remote work. This is leading to more geo-arbitrage when it comes to recruitment, especially in the contingent workforce.

Whereas on the other hand, Eqip is also seeing an increasing demand on the platform for more "operational" consulting requirements from companies who would typically perform the work on site.

Igor also mentions the increasing erosion of the "job for life" concept and a move towards a larger percentage of a company's total workforce being contingent rather than permanent, salaried employees.
<h3>Is HR the key stakeholder, and how open are they to change?</h3>
While HR teams are a cog in the wheel, Tobi and Igor actually say that their sales and business development strategy is usually focusing on Procurement and Finance in terms of primary outreach.

From their experience, it seems to be a pretty joined up approach insofar as HR and the end user seem to understand the need to adapt and change and consider different ways of working.

They also make the point that regardless of whether onboarding a contingent worker or a permanent employee, the roll of HR would be similar in both instances. Using an external platform to manage contingent workers can also be a boon for HR if they realise that this will be a necessity, as the shift continues towards be a larger percentage of the workforce being freelancers and contractors.
<h3>How does Eqip manage payroll and tax requirements for so many different jurisdictions?</h3>
Eqip doesn't process this through the platform, but the technology enables for the the correct vetting to take place.

The onboarding process in their system for each consultancy, freelancer or contractor ensures that these checks and requirements have been peformed.

The system can act as a single source of truth for this for audit purposes.
<h3>Which types of businesses is the platform ideal for?</h3>
Tobi mentions that startups and SMEs are using the platform too, alongside enterprise clients. They have a "lite" version that enables the solution to be affordable for smaller businesses too.

However, their main focus in terms of the full stack product is enterprise. By offering a comprehensive platform of a marketplace and the integrated software to manage the onboarding and compliance, they see this as something larger corporates would value as an all-in-one platform to challenge some of the legacy technology in this space.

Having a single vendor to issue invoices, as an integrator type model, also enables efficiencies for the client in terms of a reduction in vendor count and invoice volume and complexity.
<h3>What is their monetisation model?</h3>
It's volume driven in terms of the level of fees. There is either a percentage or a flat fee that is taken from the amount that is paid by the client to the contractor. Contingent workers are not charged a sign-up fee or ongoing membership / subscription cost.
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobstar/">Tobi</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/igor-putrenko-872271/">Igor</a> on LinkedIn</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.eqip.com/">Visit the Eqip website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Managing a situation where an increasing percentage of any company's workforce is composed of external, contingent workers is a challenge that many companies are already dealing with. While many more will have to figure this out pretty soon too, as they move to a more flexible labour model with the advent of the "gig economy".</div>
<div></div>
<div>How to mange this digitally, to both ensure compliant onboarding of consultancies, contractors and freelancers, as well as streamlining the administrative hassle associated with this? Tobi Schmidt and Igor Putrenko from external workforce management platform Eqip are my guests to discuss this.</div>
<h2><strong>Digitally managing the Contingent Workforce: Compliant onboarding, payroll and cost management</strong></h2>
Managing this process using dozens of different recruitment agencies, or even using individual interim managers directly, isn't realistically an efficient strategy that larger businesses can manage at scale. So, there's a recognised need to manage this more effectively.
<h3>What is already out there in terms of existing technology?</h3>
Enterprise Resource Planning tools (ERPs) such as SAP and Oracle tend to be used more for matters relating to the internal workforce. Payroll, salary info, taxes, deductions, compliance requirements and so on.

Vendor Management Systems as Igor calls them, or VMS for short, have systems and records for all external providers of services. Examples here in the more traditional enterprise software space are SAP Fieldglass, AgileOne and Beeline. Cost and lack of intuitiveness when it comes to ease of use are cited as being pitfalls of these platforms.

Whereas on the other end of the spectrum, platforms such as Upwork and Fiverr are the go-to websites for managing more traditional freelancer and small agency relationships. These are popular in the tech startup and lifestyle business space, but would not be considered as rigorous when ti comes to the needs of larger businesses with compliance and due diligence requirements.
<h3>How does Eqip differentiate their offering?</h3>
Eqip is a B2B marketplace which incorporates proper screening process, and also caters to more niche, white collar consultancy or expert professions. This is essentially the differentiation between them and more generic freelancer marketplaces.

In terms of the legacy enterprise software, they attempt to also provide this in one platform but in a more agile way, enabling a faster onboarding process for vendors.

Hard-to-find skills, such as cybersecurity experts, can be very tough to find through traditional recruitment agencies. The existing enterprise software doesn't really provide the tech to enable cross-border talent scouting and a solution to compliantly onboard them.

Eqip saw a gap in the market to fix this, by enabling Swiss companies originally to recruit hard-to-find contractors and consultants from a talent pool in Central and Eastern Europe. Furthermore, it also enables them to manage these workers if they are performing the work remotely from their home countries rather than actually needing to be on site at the client.
<h3>What are the emerging trends in this market?</h3>
On the one hand, companies struggle to find workers in their own country and simultaneously are becoming more comfortable with remote work. This is leading to more geo-arbitrage when it comes to recruitment, especially in the contingent workforce.

Whereas on the other hand, Eqip is also seeing an increasing demand on the platform for more "operational" consulting requirements from companies who would typically perform the work on site.

Igor also mentions the increasing erosion of the "job for life" concept and a move towards a larger percentage of a company's total workforce being contingent rather than permanent, salaried employees.
<h3>Is HR the key stakeholder, and how open are they to change?</h3>
While HR teams are a cog in the wheel, Tobi and Igor actually say that their sales and business development strategy is usually focusing on Procurement and Finance in terms of primary outreach.

From their experience, it seems to be a pretty joined up approach insofar as HR and the end user seem to understand the need to adapt and change and consider different ways of working.

They also make the point that regardless of whether onboarding a contingent worker or a permanent employee, the roll of HR would be similar in both instances. Using an external platform to manage contingent workers can also be a boon for HR if they realise that this will be a necessity, as the shift continues towards be a larger percentage of the workforce being freelancers and contractors.
<h3>How does Eqip manage payroll and tax requirements for so many different jurisdictions?</h3>
Eqip doesn't process this through the platform, but the technology enables for the the correct vetting to take place.

The onboarding process in their system for each consultancy, freelancer or contractor ensures that these checks and requirements have been peformed.

The system can act as a single source of truth for this for audit purposes.
<h3>Which types of businesses is the platform ideal for?</h3>
Tobi mentions that startups and SMEs are using the platform too, alongside enterprise clients. They have a "lite" version that enables the solution to be affordable for smaller businesses too.

However, their main focus in terms of the full stack product is enterprise. By offering a comprehensive platform of a marketplace and the integrated software to manage the onboarding and compliance, they see this as something larger corporates would value as an all-in-one platform to challenge some of the legacy technology in this space.

Having a single vendor to issue invoices, as an integrator type model, also enables efficiencies for the client in terms of a reduction in vendor count and invoice volume and complexity.
<h3>What is their monetisation model?</h3>
It's volume driven in terms of the level of fees. There is either a percentage or a flat fee that is taken from the amount that is paid by the client to the contractor. Contingent workers are not charged a sign-up fee or ongoing membership / subscription cost.
<h3>Stay in touch</h3>
<ul>
 	<li data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobstar/">Tobi</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/igor-putrenko-872271/">Igor</a> on LinkedIn</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.eqip.com/">Visit the Eqip website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d748a159-cb54-4c95-9559-170fa71b7a73</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cafecd2d-a811-442e-8daf-263ac582be18/TPP-20ep-2030-20Tobias-20Schmidt.mp3" length="20039933" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Know Your Supplier: Full Stack SRM – Sam Jenks from Kodiak Hub</title><itunes:title>Know Your Supplier: Full Stack SRM – Sam Jenks from Kodiak Hub</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[As procurement pros, we're feeling the heat a lot right now dealing with problems of a reactive nature. We're having to fight to secure supply and deal with crisis management with increasing frequency.

Moving to a more predictive form of supplier relationship management (SRM), while at the same time handling the transactional and compliance part of the requirements is what my guest, Sam Jenks, CMO of Kodiak Hub, is here to talk about today.
<h2>Full Stack SRM: The case for "Know Your Supplier" with due diligence and risk monitoring</h2>
What started off as Kodiak Rating in 2015 recently rebranded to Kodiak Hub back in September last year. Part of this was the wider evolution of their platform from being primarily a compliance and controls platform to what has now become a full SRM tool, both on the predictive / market intel side as well as on the more traditional audit and reports side.

As Sam explains, this was more of an evolutionary rather than a revolutionary process. Customers needed a platform that could expand into other areas of SRM other than the compliance piece, and Kodiak walked with them on their journey and built out their platform to evolve into what it is today.

Onboarding and assessment was the core feature, but this has since expanded to cover:
<ul>
 	<li>Credit rating</li>
 	<li>Third party market intelligence</li>
 	<li>Due diligence (audit) module</li>
 	<li>Supplier performance</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How has the evolution affected their customer base?</h3>
Primary customers have moved to be slightly larger than previously, but they have maintained to a large extent a customer base which is predominantly manufacturing businesses with a large spend on raw materials.

The industry sectors have remained pretty consistent along their journey but they are now seeing more success acquiring customers more positioned towards the enterprise segment. Whereas previously, most of their business was coming from the mid market.
<h3>Breaking down SRM: tactical and strategic</h3>
How can this experience be improved and optimised within a digital platform, based on what Kodiak Hub has built?
<h4>Tactical:</h4>
Supplier onboarding, compliance checks and audit - removing manual data entry and ensuring that the data gathering piece can be automated to the greatest possible extent.

Supplier pre-qualification and onboarding also requires the supplier to be actively engaged and to find the process intuitive.

Industry or customer specific content around supplier onboarding has been built into the platform to avoid

Weighting and KPIs can be modelled based on customers' individual criteria.
<h4>Strategic:</h4>
Collaboration space - having an interactive platform which can be used either for corrective actions, or for innovation focused activities. Looking at innovative activities, this is more based on project management or more strategic activities such as joint R&amp;D.

Performance evaluation - removing the "Excel hell" from the process and having 6 different standard areas for performance. Everyone's needs when it comes to performance are different, depending on what they are buying and the industry sector they are in.
<h4>Predictive analytics:</h4>
While there are a lot of stand alone best-of-breed solutions out there offering individual solutions - e.g. news monitoring, financial risk, traceability - Kodiak has tried to bring this all under one umbrella.

Their approach is to partner with third party solutions providers who can do all of this in one platform rather than try to build out their own proprietary technology for everything to try to compete with the single-solution software providers.
<h3>What makes Kodiak different from all-in-one suites which have SRM platforms?</h3>
Sam highlights the fact that a lot of the suites are not user friendly and there is a lot of legacy technology out there with some of the traditional suites.

He also mentions that through their approach of partnering with technology providers who are experts in the space of each of the specific areas they work with, they're able to offer a more detailed solution in each of their modules vs. the suites.

Implementation time is also faster, enabling the user to bring Kodiak on board in weeks rather than months or in some cases years, as can often be the case with some of the more traditional all-in-one suite providers which require a lot of technical integration and IT consulting support.
<h3>Pick and mix</h3>
Kodiak gives the option to purchase the solution as a modular software, so you don't need to buy the whole suite if you're mixing and matching best-of-breed solutons.

I then ask Sam is whether they are looking to partner with other complementary solutions providers who are playing in this space, as this would be the next logical step to me.
<h3>What about using AI?</h3>
Kodiak Hub doesn't use any natively developed AI but it relies heavily on their third party integrations who leverage this technology.

The Data architecture that is built for scale.
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.kodiakhub.com/">Kodiak Hub website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-jenks/">Connect with Sam on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[As procurement pros, we're feeling the heat a lot right now dealing with problems of a reactive nature. We're having to fight to secure supply and deal with crisis management with increasing frequency.

Moving to a more predictive form of supplier relationship management (SRM), while at the same time handling the transactional and compliance part of the requirements is what my guest, Sam Jenks, CMO of Kodiak Hub, is here to talk about today.
<h2>Full Stack SRM: The case for "Know Your Supplier" with due diligence and risk monitoring</h2>
What started off as Kodiak Rating in 2015 recently rebranded to Kodiak Hub back in September last year. Part of this was the wider evolution of their platform from being primarily a compliance and controls platform to what has now become a full SRM tool, both on the predictive / market intel side as well as on the more traditional audit and reports side.

As Sam explains, this was more of an evolutionary rather than a revolutionary process. Customers needed a platform that could expand into other areas of SRM other than the compliance piece, and Kodiak walked with them on their journey and built out their platform to evolve into what it is today.

Onboarding and assessment was the core feature, but this has since expanded to cover:
<ul>
 	<li>Credit rating</li>
 	<li>Third party market intelligence</li>
 	<li>Due diligence (audit) module</li>
 	<li>Supplier performance</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How has the evolution affected their customer base?</h3>
Primary customers have moved to be slightly larger than previously, but they have maintained to a large extent a customer base which is predominantly manufacturing businesses with a large spend on raw materials.

The industry sectors have remained pretty consistent along their journey but they are now seeing more success acquiring customers more positioned towards the enterprise segment. Whereas previously, most of their business was coming from the mid market.
<h3>Breaking down SRM: tactical and strategic</h3>
How can this experience be improved and optimised within a digital platform, based on what Kodiak Hub has built?
<h4>Tactical:</h4>
Supplier onboarding, compliance checks and audit - removing manual data entry and ensuring that the data gathering piece can be automated to the greatest possible extent.

Supplier pre-qualification and onboarding also requires the supplier to be actively engaged and to find the process intuitive.

Industry or customer specific content around supplier onboarding has been built into the platform to avoid

Weighting and KPIs can be modelled based on customers' individual criteria.
<h4>Strategic:</h4>
Collaboration space - having an interactive platform which can be used either for corrective actions, or for innovation focused activities. Looking at innovative activities, this is more based on project management or more strategic activities such as joint R&amp;D.

Performance evaluation - removing the "Excel hell" from the process and having 6 different standard areas for performance. Everyone's needs when it comes to performance are different, depending on what they are buying and the industry sector they are in.
<h4>Predictive analytics:</h4>
While there are a lot of stand alone best-of-breed solutions out there offering individual solutions - e.g. news monitoring, financial risk, traceability - Kodiak has tried to bring this all under one umbrella.

Their approach is to partner with third party solutions providers who can do all of this in one platform rather than try to build out their own proprietary technology for everything to try to compete with the single-solution software providers.
<h3>What makes Kodiak different from all-in-one suites which have SRM platforms?</h3>
Sam highlights the fact that a lot of the suites are not user friendly and there is a lot of legacy technology out there with some of the traditional suites.

He also mentions that through their approach of partnering with technology providers who are experts in the space of each of the specific areas they work with, they're able to offer a more detailed solution in each of their modules vs. the suites.

Implementation time is also faster, enabling the user to bring Kodiak on board in weeks rather than months or in some cases years, as can often be the case with some of the more traditional all-in-one suite providers which require a lot of technical integration and IT consulting support.
<h3>Pick and mix</h3>
Kodiak gives the option to purchase the solution as a modular software, so you don't need to buy the whole suite if you're mixing and matching best-of-breed solutons.

I then ask Sam is whether they are looking to partner with other complementary solutions providers who are playing in this space, as this would be the next logical step to me.
<h3>What about using AI?</h3>
Kodiak Hub doesn't use any natively developed AI but it relies heavily on their third party integrations who leverage this technology.

The Data architecture that is built for scale.
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.kodiakhub.com/">Kodiak Hub website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-jenks/">Connect with Sam on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">95888eb0-e98a-42f6-8b46-4f95626a5b80</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/617f3afa-db9b-41bb-b1cc-386d51d76299/tpp-ep-29-sam-jenks.mp3" length="22741413" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>ProcurementSoftware.site – The FREE resource for digital procurement</title><itunes:title>ProcurementSoftware.site – The FREE resource for digital procurement</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Today is a very proud and special day for me as I launch our new venture: Procurement Software.

The ProcurementSoftware.site website sets out to democratise access to information and resources on digital procurement as a free platform, focusing on helping procurement leaders, CFOs and boutique consultancies serving mid-market businesses.
<h2>What makes ProcurementSoftware.site different and unique?</h2>
I've listed 10 reasons why I believe that Procurement Software provides a solution that nobody else out there is offering....here goes:
<h3>1. Completely FREE to access for the buy side</h3>
We don't charge any subscription to buyers. Neither to the individual, nor to the company.

Our directory is completely free to access all areas.
<h3>2. Focus on software that's within reach of mid-market businesses</h3>
The existing content platforms and research houses who are specifically focused on the digital procurement ecosystem are very much targeting enterprise level procurement pros as their target audience.

While anyone in a large corporate will still get value from our solution, we have deliberately included some of the less well-known software that focuses on mid-market and SMEs as their target customer base.

All of the legacy suites and new best-of-breed solutions who target enterprise customers are also included in the directory, but our blogs and this podcast is more focused on the mid market.
<h3>3. More transparency</h3>
There are a number of "best of" lists out there. They have varying transparency when it comes to how these lists are put together. Some are more clear than others, but still, there is a lot that remains murky.

We have circumvented this potential issue by making the directory completely comprehensive and including anyone in there who we believe has a relevant solution and a saleable, useable product with existing customers.
<h3>4. We're all busy: you don't have time for complex research</h3>
Procurement pros - I know you're busy. There are enough challenges in the world right now keeping you up at night. That's why we feel that a lot of the detailed research and white papers are unnecessarily complex.

You're smart people. If you're given the basics to get on with, you can do your due diligence on the potential software suppliers you're considering.

Do you need to pay several thousand dollars for a white paper you'll probably never read in full? That money could be better spent hiring someone to help you source and implement the software from the shortlist of solutions we'll provide you for free.
<h3>5. User Friendly</h3>
Our content and our software directory is easy to use, easy to find and intuitive.

I talk about UX being an under-appreciated feature for procurement technology to help with adoption and uptake.

The exact same thing applies here. We will <strong>definitely </strong>also listen closely to user feedback and improve our UX as we go!
<h3>6. No Corporate Subscriptions</h3>
So, if your organisation doesn't have a corporate subscription to one of the big research houses, then how do you access market knowledge?

As an individual, you can't take out a subscription. And even if you could, it would be prohibitively expensive. That's why we're never going to offer this as a business model.

Even if we sell content in the form of digital downloads on the site in future, my goal is to ensure we offer this at an affordable price that any procurement pro could purchase, even for those of you who are unable to claim it back as a company expense.
<h3>7. No Jargon!</h3>
I hate complexity for the sake of it. White papers and solutions maps can be unnecessarily confusing. Lots of competitor websites are full of acronyms and procurement-speak.

That's why we want to give you a simple solution which just requires a few mouse clicks. We've also spelt out in full all of the acronyms that are in our software finder, so you're not scratching your head if you're not an expert in this space.
<h3>8. No "pay-to-play" business model</h3>
Every software solution that is listed in our directory has a basic profile for free. Nobody has paid us to be included on the platform, full stop.

Do we make money through sponsorship? Of course, but it's not a prerequisite to be present on the website.
<h3>9. Clear monetisation and revenue model</h3>
We are very transparent with how we make money. Our revenue will come from sponsored content:
<ul>
 	<li>Sponsored podcasts</li>
 	<li>Sponsored blog posts</li>
 	<li>Live software demos on LinkedIn and YouTube</li>
 	<li>A few strategically placed banner ads (that won't hurt the user experience)</li>
 	<li>Referral partnerships with our favourite solutions providers</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>10. We <em>only </em>feature procuretech</h3>
The generic software review and search websites are not <strong>solely </strong>focused on procurement technology. We are!

There is always going to be a fine line between procuretech and fintech, legaltech and supply chain tech in certain aspects. Inevitably, there will be some solutions included that are not <strong>pure play</strong> procuretech.

But at the same time, I believe all solutions we've included have a reference point or value proposition to procurement pros in some way.

&nbsp;

Interested to sponsor the website?

Have a software solution that you'd like us to include in the directory?
<h3><strong>Stay in touch! - I'd love to hear from you!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Today is a very proud and special day for me as I launch our new venture: Procurement Software.

The ProcurementSoftware.site website sets out to democratise access to information and resources on digital procurement as a free platform, focusing on helping procurement leaders, CFOs and boutique consultancies serving mid-market businesses.
<h2>What makes ProcurementSoftware.site different and unique?</h2>
I've listed 10 reasons why I believe that Procurement Software provides a solution that nobody else out there is offering....here goes:
<h3>1. Completely FREE to access for the buy side</h3>
We don't charge any subscription to buyers. Neither to the individual, nor to the company.

Our directory is completely free to access all areas.
<h3>2. Focus on software that's within reach of mid-market businesses</h3>
The existing content platforms and research houses who are specifically focused on the digital procurement ecosystem are very much targeting enterprise level procurement pros as their target audience.

While anyone in a large corporate will still get value from our solution, we have deliberately included some of the less well-known software that focuses on mid-market and SMEs as their target customer base.

All of the legacy suites and new best-of-breed solutions who target enterprise customers are also included in the directory, but our blogs and this podcast is more focused on the mid market.
<h3>3. More transparency</h3>
There are a number of "best of" lists out there. They have varying transparency when it comes to how these lists are put together. Some are more clear than others, but still, there is a lot that remains murky.

We have circumvented this potential issue by making the directory completely comprehensive and including anyone in there who we believe has a relevant solution and a saleable, useable product with existing customers.
<h3>4. We're all busy: you don't have time for complex research</h3>
Procurement pros - I know you're busy. There are enough challenges in the world right now keeping you up at night. That's why we feel that a lot of the detailed research and white papers are unnecessarily complex.

You're smart people. If you're given the basics to get on with, you can do your due diligence on the potential software suppliers you're considering.

Do you need to pay several thousand dollars for a white paper you'll probably never read in full? That money could be better spent hiring someone to help you source and implement the software from the shortlist of solutions we'll provide you for free.
<h3>5. User Friendly</h3>
Our content and our software directory is easy to use, easy to find and intuitive.

I talk about UX being an under-appreciated feature for procurement technology to help with adoption and uptake.

The exact same thing applies here. We will <strong>definitely </strong>also listen closely to user feedback and improve our UX as we go!
<h3>6. No Corporate Subscriptions</h3>
So, if your organisation doesn't have a corporate subscription to one of the big research houses, then how do you access market knowledge?

As an individual, you can't take out a subscription. And even if you could, it would be prohibitively expensive. That's why we're never going to offer this as a business model.

Even if we sell content in the form of digital downloads on the site in future, my goal is to ensure we offer this at an affordable price that any procurement pro could purchase, even for those of you who are unable to claim it back as a company expense.
<h3>7. No Jargon!</h3>
I hate complexity for the sake of it. White papers and solutions maps can be unnecessarily confusing. Lots of competitor websites are full of acronyms and procurement-speak.

That's why we want to give you a simple solution which just requires a few mouse clicks. We've also spelt out in full all of the acronyms that are in our software finder, so you're not scratching your head if you're not an expert in this space.
<h3>8. No "pay-to-play" business model</h3>
Every software solution that is listed in our directory has a basic profile for free. Nobody has paid us to be included on the platform, full stop.

Do we make money through sponsorship? Of course, but it's not a prerequisite to be present on the website.
<h3>9. Clear monetisation and revenue model</h3>
We are very transparent with how we make money. Our revenue will come from sponsored content:
<ul>
 	<li>Sponsored podcasts</li>
 	<li>Sponsored blog posts</li>
 	<li>Live software demos on LinkedIn and YouTube</li>
 	<li>A few strategically placed banner ads (that won't hurt the user experience)</li>
 	<li>Referral partnerships with our favourite solutions providers</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>10. We <em>only </em>feature procuretech</h3>
The generic software review and search websites are not <strong>solely </strong>focused on procurement technology. We are!

There is always going to be a fine line between procuretech and fintech, legaltech and supply chain tech in certain aspects. Inevitably, there will be some solutions included that are not <strong>pure play</strong> procuretech.

But at the same time, I believe all solutions we've included have a reference point or value proposition to procurement pros in some way.

&nbsp;

Interested to sponsor the website?

Have a software solution that you'd like us to include in the directory?
<h3><strong>Stay in touch! - I'd love to hear from you!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1b76df0f-0b8f-451e-96aa-eaef9ce33181</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2022 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ea3ada06-18ef-4155-9c97-d483a1f84779/procuretech-ep-28-website-launch-update.mp3" length="25642258" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Strategic Supplier Innovation – Matt Zaleski from Procurence Meercat</title><itunes:title>Strategic Supplier Innovation – Matt Zaleski from Procurence Meercat</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>With the backdrop of inflation, supply chain shortages and now as I currently write this, a war being fought on European soil, supplier collaboration and supplier innovation are two topics that I think we can be sure will increase in priority.</p><p>My guest to deep dive on this topic is Maciej (Matt) Zaleski of Procurence Meercat, a software platform for industrial manufacturing companies who have recently developed a supplier innovation module for their solution.</p><h2><strong>Using software to successfully drive a transparent supplier innovation program</strong></h2><p>Against the rather bleak backdrop we're currently up against, the focus right now is to ensure that manufacturing businesses are able to become a customer of choice to their supply base. With a tight market and the need to innovate to stay ahead, avoid material shortages and optimise lead times, this is particularly good timing to be discussing this topic.</p><p>Procurence grew out of Matt being frustrated at what was already out there. He found himself as a consultant having to leave a client with Excel sheets rather than a nice software dashboard. This is ultimately what drove him to start the business.</p><p>Starting off with a procurement, quality and vendor master data solution, Procurence has since grown to become a full stack solution on the quality and New Product Introduction (NPI) side in addition to the pure procurement modules. This focus has enabled them to thrive in manufacturing industries, especially the automotive sector.</p><p>New modules have very much been based on customer feedback, and supplier innovation is no different, growing out of a request from AGCO Corporation, one of Procurence's key customers, to streamline and digitise the process.</p><h3>Define "Supplier Innovation": What does it mean?</h3><p>There are three key pillars that Matt typically sees from Procurence Meercat clients:</p><ul><li>Design to cost</li><li>Quality</li><li>Sustainability</li></ul><br/><p>Matt explains that it's all about looking at what hides below the waterline.</p><p>Continuous Improvement often sits below the top of the iceberg but is nonetheless a very important component of supplier relationships.</p><p>Different stakeholders will drive the process depending on what the end result should be.</p><p>Ideas generation typically becomes a lot more bottom up process and as such requires a greater amount of participation from a wider number of stakeholders e.g. engineering, marketing, supply base, manufacturing.</p><p>Early involvement with suppliers is key. Otherwise, the potential is that a company misses out on ongoing feedback during a design process or project ideation if they are only contacting suppliers once the design and features are a done deal.</p><p>R&amp;D is a more strategic function, but often don't have the manufacturing experience or the technical knowledge of the supplier's production process.</p><p>A hands off approach will result in the supplier doing as they're told. Whereas in a more collaborative environment, they will volunteer suggestions and improvements during a more consultative process.</p><h3>How can software assist this process?</h3><p>Channel between internal stakeholders and suppliers. There are often multiple stakeholders who need to have access to a two-way conversation between the company and its supply base.</p><p>"Crowdsourcing" of innovative solutions to specific problems around product design, production process, quality improvements, kanban etc.</p><p>Software platforms facilitate this through making the conversations visible to multiple stakeholders and removing the silos we see when this task is performed through emails and spreadsheets.</p><p>Supplier to internal stakeholder: procurement doesn't know everything that's going on in the company. Procurement often expects a clear specification to be able to go to market with an RFP or RFQ. Stakeholders may look to suppliers to assist them with this process and thus reduce the time to introduce the part or project.</p><p>This can also work in service companies, and also in decentralised businesses, as Matt explains with his example of German state rail operator Deutsche Bahn.</p><h3>And what is the clear benefit to Procurement?</h3><p>Three things primarily:</p><p>Transparency - we want stakeholders to talk to suppliers directly, but we also need to know when they're doing it, in order to avoid "divide and conquer" tactics from a supplier</p><p>Compliance - through having this visibility, we can ensure that any internal processes are being followed and that stakeholders are informed of any violations in a pre-emptive manner if they enter into contractual or commercial discussions with vendors.</p><p>Better stakeholder relationships - through improvements to communication and being able to collaborate, and react, faster as a team in the triangle of communication between buyer, supplier and stakeholder</p><h3>Ways to be more engaged with your supply base</h3><p>There are 3 common ways to engage the supply base</p><p>Supplier innovation day - software enables suppliers to submit ideas online ahead of the event. Innovation teams can then review and provide feedback in time for the event.</p><p>Hackathons - coming from the tech startup scene for a quick, intensive brainstorming activity</p><p>Design-to-cost workshops - only open typically to a select number of core suppliers.</p><p>Easier to get objective feedback on supplier innovation when everything is in a single source of truth.</p><p>You can measure based on a funnel of ideas generated through to actual implementations executed and the cost savings realised.</p><p>Suppliers also want to understand and receive regular feedback around WHY their ideas are not implemented and taken on board.</p><h3>Gain shares and savings recognition</h3><p>To incentivise and ensure that suppliers are keen and want to participate, of course there usually&nbsp;to be something in it for them.</p><p>Sharing the savings with the vendor is a great way to keep supplier innovation pipelines robust!</p><p>To ensure that the right stakeholders are involved in the big ticket items, thresholds can be set within Procurence Meercat to determine that, for example, a Head of Procurement or CFO is flagged each time an innovation project is entered into the platform that has a high savings potential.</p><p>But then, Matt flips this on its head and suggests also that you can introduce new products to the market that drives bottom line growth as a result of supplier innovation. So, growth as well as cost reduction!</p><h3>How important is C-level sponsorship?</h3><p>My final question to Matt is the age old question of senior leadership involvement to ensure adoption and success. He confirms that from his experience, a CPO is usually driving this with approval from other board members.</p><p>The bigger the organisation, generally the more inertia and resistance to change within a business. The "we've always done it this way" conundrum.</p><p>Matt's parting words of wisdom are to start small and work on continuous improvement initiatives, before working on ground breaking projects. From small acorns grow large oak trees!</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaleski/" target="_blank">Connect with Maciej on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.procurence.com" target="_blank">Visit Procurence Meercat's website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the backdrop of inflation, supply chain shortages and now as I currently write this, a war being fought on European soil, supplier collaboration and supplier innovation are two topics that I think we can be sure will increase in priority.</p><p>My guest to deep dive on this topic is Maciej (Matt) Zaleski of Procurence Meercat, a software platform for industrial manufacturing companies who have recently developed a supplier innovation module for their solution.</p><h2><strong>Using software to successfully drive a transparent supplier innovation program</strong></h2><p>Against the rather bleak backdrop we're currently up against, the focus right now is to ensure that manufacturing businesses are able to become a customer of choice to their supply base. With a tight market and the need to innovate to stay ahead, avoid material shortages and optimise lead times, this is particularly good timing to be discussing this topic.</p><p>Procurence grew out of Matt being frustrated at what was already out there. He found himself as a consultant having to leave a client with Excel sheets rather than a nice software dashboard. This is ultimately what drove him to start the business.</p><p>Starting off with a procurement, quality and vendor master data solution, Procurence has since grown to become a full stack solution on the quality and New Product Introduction (NPI) side in addition to the pure procurement modules. This focus has enabled them to thrive in manufacturing industries, especially the automotive sector.</p><p>New modules have very much been based on customer feedback, and supplier innovation is no different, growing out of a request from AGCO Corporation, one of Procurence's key customers, to streamline and digitise the process.</p><h3>Define "Supplier Innovation": What does it mean?</h3><p>There are three key pillars that Matt typically sees from Procurence Meercat clients:</p><ul><li>Design to cost</li><li>Quality</li><li>Sustainability</li></ul><br/><p>Matt explains that it's all about looking at what hides below the waterline.</p><p>Continuous Improvement often sits below the top of the iceberg but is nonetheless a very important component of supplier relationships.</p><p>Different stakeholders will drive the process depending on what the end result should be.</p><p>Ideas generation typically becomes a lot more bottom up process and as such requires a greater amount of participation from a wider number of stakeholders e.g. engineering, marketing, supply base, manufacturing.</p><p>Early involvement with suppliers is key. Otherwise, the potential is that a company misses out on ongoing feedback during a design process or project ideation if they are only contacting suppliers once the design and features are a done deal.</p><p>R&amp;D is a more strategic function, but often don't have the manufacturing experience or the technical knowledge of the supplier's production process.</p><p>A hands off approach will result in the supplier doing as they're told. Whereas in a more collaborative environment, they will volunteer suggestions and improvements during a more consultative process.</p><h3>How can software assist this process?</h3><p>Channel between internal stakeholders and suppliers. There are often multiple stakeholders who need to have access to a two-way conversation between the company and its supply base.</p><p>"Crowdsourcing" of innovative solutions to specific problems around product design, production process, quality improvements, kanban etc.</p><p>Software platforms facilitate this through making the conversations visible to multiple stakeholders and removing the silos we see when this task is performed through emails and spreadsheets.</p><p>Supplier to internal stakeholder: procurement doesn't know everything that's going on in the company. Procurement often expects a clear specification to be able to go to market with an RFP or RFQ. Stakeholders may look to suppliers to assist them with this process and thus reduce the time to introduce the part or project.</p><p>This can also work in service companies, and also in decentralised businesses, as Matt explains with his example of German state rail operator Deutsche Bahn.</p><h3>And what is the clear benefit to Procurement?</h3><p>Three things primarily:</p><p>Transparency - we want stakeholders to talk to suppliers directly, but we also need to know when they're doing it, in order to avoid "divide and conquer" tactics from a supplier</p><p>Compliance - through having this visibility, we can ensure that any internal processes are being followed and that stakeholders are informed of any violations in a pre-emptive manner if they enter into contractual or commercial discussions with vendors.</p><p>Better stakeholder relationships - through improvements to communication and being able to collaborate, and react, faster as a team in the triangle of communication between buyer, supplier and stakeholder</p><h3>Ways to be more engaged with your supply base</h3><p>There are 3 common ways to engage the supply base</p><p>Supplier innovation day - software enables suppliers to submit ideas online ahead of the event. Innovation teams can then review and provide feedback in time for the event.</p><p>Hackathons - coming from the tech startup scene for a quick, intensive brainstorming activity</p><p>Design-to-cost workshops - only open typically to a select number of core suppliers.</p><p>Easier to get objective feedback on supplier innovation when everything is in a single source of truth.</p><p>You can measure based on a funnel of ideas generated through to actual implementations executed and the cost savings realised.</p><p>Suppliers also want to understand and receive regular feedback around WHY their ideas are not implemented and taken on board.</p><h3>Gain shares and savings recognition</h3><p>To incentivise and ensure that suppliers are keen and want to participate, of course there usually&nbsp;to be something in it for them.</p><p>Sharing the savings with the vendor is a great way to keep supplier innovation pipelines robust!</p><p>To ensure that the right stakeholders are involved in the big ticket items, thresholds can be set within Procurence Meercat to determine that, for example, a Head of Procurement or CFO is flagged each time an innovation project is entered into the platform that has a high savings potential.</p><p>But then, Matt flips this on its head and suggests also that you can introduce new products to the market that drives bottom line growth as a result of supplier innovation. So, growth as well as cost reduction!</p><h3>How important is C-level sponsorship?</h3><p>My final question to Matt is the age old question of senior leadership involvement to ensure adoption and success. He confirms that from his experience, a CPO is usually driving this with approval from other board members.</p><p>The bigger the organisation, generally the more inertia and resistance to change within a business. The "we've always done it this way" conundrum.</p><p>Matt's parting words of wisdom are to start small and work on continuous improvement initiatives, before working on ground breaking projects. From small acorns grow large oak trees!</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaleski/" target="_blank">Connect with Maciej on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.procurence.com" target="_blank">Visit Procurence Meercat's website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0eb6ed3a-0c25-48b3-85e6-aa195f7756f8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ae6282aa-1738-4b94-8cf2-21e34efaa59d/procuretech-maciej-zalienski-procurence-neerkat-s2e29.mp3" length="35017918" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Blockchain and Contract Management – Dr. Elena Mechik from Inhubber</title><itunes:title>Blockchain and Contract Management – Dr. Elena Mechik from Inhubber</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Kicking off this week with the first of a number of interviews we'll be doing over the next couple of months with contract management platforms. This is a rapidly expanding area and it's gone from simply being repositories and authorisation / signature software into becoming a very diverse ecosystem over the past few years.</p><p>My guest today is Elena Mechik of Berlin-based startup Inhubber, which offers a blockchain-based solution for contract management and tracking.</p><h2><strong>Blockchain and its use in Contract Management for Procurement and Supply Chain</strong></h2><p>I have to admit that I was very ignorant about blockchain and its multitude of potential different uses and applications until I started digging into this topic. If you think "it's just something to do with Bitcoin", then think again!</p><h3>End-to-end encryption of contracts: Why is it important?</h3><p>Elena explains that the way you track and store contracts should be treated the same way as you store money. With increasing risk of phishing and cyberattacks, it's important you understand, track and trace your contract management activities.</p><p>Contracts are encrypted from user-to-user with Inhubber, whereas most other platforms tend to encrypt just on the cloud or on the server. There is no need to send documents via email or any other less secure method of communication.</p><h3>What is blockchain and how is it relevant to contract management?</h3><p>Blockchain technology can be used in various industries and use cases.</p><p>It works by saving certain information on various "nodes" (or "chains"). You don't save this information on your personal laptop, rather it's saved hundreds or thousands of times on a network of other, independent nodes. This gives the document (or information) immutability: the elimination of somebody being able to fraudulently change or doctor a document.</p><p>In simple terms, it eliminates fraud and tracks and records any changes or amendments for posterity. There is no need with blockchain to save different versions of contracts in MS Word with the latest version filename as a differentiator.</p><p>There is a complete audit trail stored in cyberspace. Nobody can falsify or overwrite changes to a document without it being flagged.</p><h3>Which sectors are keenest to adopt this technology?</h3><p>Elena answers that typically, companies that have experience of being hacked are usually keenest to bring this on board. Historically this was only very large companies, but this is now starting to change.</p><p>As cybersecurity becomes more and more central to companies' risk management strategies, the size of the companies responding favourably to investing in blockchain technology are becoming smaller. It's no longer an issue that only big organisations need to worry about.</p><p>From real estate, through to construction and most recently banks are all showing an interest in adopting this type of technology.</p><h3>It's not just contracts which can be stored using blockchain</h3><p>While they may be the most obvious example, contracts are just one type of document which can benefit from blockchain.</p><p>Purchase orders and receipts for example can also be stored in Inhubber, and access control to different documents within an organisation or within a network of core suppliers can also be regulated through the platform.</p><p>By taking advantage of encryption technology, confidential documents can also be transferred for example from a buyer to a supplier when collaborating on joint innovation projects.</p><h3>Leveraging AI to extract key contract data</h3><p>As with many competitor CLM solutions, Inhubber also has an intelligent contract monitoring function which can track some standard metrics such as:</p><ul><li>When is a contract due for renewal?</li><li>Who are the contract partners?</li><li>Which conditions have been negotiated?</li></ul><br/><p>This can also be programmed according to individual requirements of customers, to enable it to train the AI based on what to look for.</p><h3>How does the AI differentiate between native contracts and third party documents?</h3><p>It depends on the needs of the customer.</p><p>The AI is programmable and the contracts can be analysed based on a specific workflow. So, if a native contract requires fewer questions and interrogation than, for example, third party paper, this can be included as part of the process.</p><h3>Can Inhubber be used for Sales too? And what else is in their roadmap?</h3><p>Yes, it can also be used for sales. As part of the ongoing roadmap as the solution matures, they are also looking at:</p><ul><li>Historical contractual relationships, including a history of the different players who have come into contact with the contract over any given point in time</li><li>Clause libraries</li><li>Contract creation and negotiation wizard</li></ul><br/><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://inhubber.com/en/" target="_blank">Inhubber website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-elena-mechik/" target="_blank">Connect with Elena on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kicking off this week with the first of a number of interviews we'll be doing over the next couple of months with contract management platforms. This is a rapidly expanding area and it's gone from simply being repositories and authorisation / signature software into becoming a very diverse ecosystem over the past few years.</p><p>My guest today is Elena Mechik of Berlin-based startup Inhubber, which offers a blockchain-based solution for contract management and tracking.</p><h2><strong>Blockchain and its use in Contract Management for Procurement and Supply Chain</strong></h2><p>I have to admit that I was very ignorant about blockchain and its multitude of potential different uses and applications until I started digging into this topic. If you think "it's just something to do with Bitcoin", then think again!</p><h3>End-to-end encryption of contracts: Why is it important?</h3><p>Elena explains that the way you track and store contracts should be treated the same way as you store money. With increasing risk of phishing and cyberattacks, it's important you understand, track and trace your contract management activities.</p><p>Contracts are encrypted from user-to-user with Inhubber, whereas most other platforms tend to encrypt just on the cloud or on the server. There is no need to send documents via email or any other less secure method of communication.</p><h3>What is blockchain and how is it relevant to contract management?</h3><p>Blockchain technology can be used in various industries and use cases.</p><p>It works by saving certain information on various "nodes" (or "chains"). You don't save this information on your personal laptop, rather it's saved hundreds or thousands of times on a network of other, independent nodes. This gives the document (or information) immutability: the elimination of somebody being able to fraudulently change or doctor a document.</p><p>In simple terms, it eliminates fraud and tracks and records any changes or amendments for posterity. There is no need with blockchain to save different versions of contracts in MS Word with the latest version filename as a differentiator.</p><p>There is a complete audit trail stored in cyberspace. Nobody can falsify or overwrite changes to a document without it being flagged.</p><h3>Which sectors are keenest to adopt this technology?</h3><p>Elena answers that typically, companies that have experience of being hacked are usually keenest to bring this on board. Historically this was only very large companies, but this is now starting to change.</p><p>As cybersecurity becomes more and more central to companies' risk management strategies, the size of the companies responding favourably to investing in blockchain technology are becoming smaller. It's no longer an issue that only big organisations need to worry about.</p><p>From real estate, through to construction and most recently banks are all showing an interest in adopting this type of technology.</p><h3>It's not just contracts which can be stored using blockchain</h3><p>While they may be the most obvious example, contracts are just one type of document which can benefit from blockchain.</p><p>Purchase orders and receipts for example can also be stored in Inhubber, and access control to different documents within an organisation or within a network of core suppliers can also be regulated through the platform.</p><p>By taking advantage of encryption technology, confidential documents can also be transferred for example from a buyer to a supplier when collaborating on joint innovation projects.</p><h3>Leveraging AI to extract key contract data</h3><p>As with many competitor CLM solutions, Inhubber also has an intelligent contract monitoring function which can track some standard metrics such as:</p><ul><li>When is a contract due for renewal?</li><li>Who are the contract partners?</li><li>Which conditions have been negotiated?</li></ul><br/><p>This can also be programmed according to individual requirements of customers, to enable it to train the AI based on what to look for.</p><h3>How does the AI differentiate between native contracts and third party documents?</h3><p>It depends on the needs of the customer.</p><p>The AI is programmable and the contracts can be analysed based on a specific workflow. So, if a native contract requires fewer questions and interrogation than, for example, third party paper, this can be included as part of the process.</p><h3>Can Inhubber be used for Sales too? And what else is in their roadmap?</h3><p>Yes, it can also be used for sales. As part of the ongoing roadmap as the solution matures, they are also looking at:</p><ul><li>Historical contractual relationships, including a history of the different players who have come into contact with the contract over any given point in time</li><li>Clause libraries</li><li>Contract creation and negotiation wizard</li></ul><br/><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://inhubber.com/en/" target="_blank">Inhubber website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-elena-mechik/" target="_blank">Connect with Elena on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a474f5f4-9389-4233-a525-3859453559dd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a7f8608d-c01e-4b41-9a0c-c3f869a34f33/procuretech-elena-machik-s2e28.mp3" length="28100694" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Better Visibility for Direct Spend – Anne-Sophie Le Bloas from Ravacan</title><itunes:title>Better Visibility for Direct Spend – Anne-Sophie Le Bloas from Ravacan</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this week's show we're digging into the world of direct materials sourcing. It's a part of the digital procurement landscape that's been a bit neglected, except for e-sourcing tools, and my guest this week decided to do something about this.</p><p>Anne-Sophie Le Bloas, Founder and CEO of Ravacan, experienced in both her native Europe and also in the US, that there wasn't much innovation out there when it came to leveraging digital tools to manage direct materials spend, and set out to remedy this.</p><h2><strong>Creating visibility, analytics and clarity in the direct materials space</strong></h2><p>Part of a rare breed, Anne-Sophie is a fellow ex-Procurement Category Manager turned startup founder. She studied Procurement and Supply Chain in Bordeaux and then moved into the corporate world, starting out in the FMCG industry, moving then into aeronautics and then finally the automotive industry.</p><p>Against this backdrop, there is a lot of focus around specification and quality, while at the same time ensuring cost reduction. Engineering and technical decisions are key, but at the same time there is a lot of pressure on cost, especially in lower margin industries such as automotive.</p><h3>Is it hard to get conversations with innovators and change agents?</h3><p>Traditional manufacturing is an industry where change often happens very slowly and is difficult to drive innovation and different ways of doing things. I was therefore curious to understand whether Anne-Sophie had experienced challenges getting traction if she is selling software into these types of businesses.</p><p>She admits that there have been challenges, but also says that she tried to target the innovators and change agents within these businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has definitely helped to accelerate the appetite for change and embracing potential new ideas, partly as a result of supply chain shortages, inflationary pressures and longer lead times.</p><p>The ability to be able to make decisions faster and to have the bigger picture at your fingertips has been a key factor in driving acceptance of using software. Moving to a remote working environment during COVID meant that previous interactions that would take place within a production plant no longer could, if white collar functions such as Procurement and R&amp;D were working from home.</p><h3>What's wrong with managing directs within an ERP?</h3><p>Understanding knock-on effects and having predictive models to be able to evaluate this impact on the overall supply chain is key. This is something that's very hard to do from within an ERP system.</p><p>For example if a COVID lockdown closes down a factory in a certain part of the world, how can you model this from within your ERP or using a spreadsheet?&nbsp;Asynchronous ways of working are too slow. Data may have changed by the time you have tried to update and work collaboratively on an Excel and email-based project.</p><h3>Managing multiple tiers of supply and directed buys</h3><p>Direct material supply chains often have added layers of complexity, where you need to understand relationships beyond your 1st tier suppliers. Anne-Sophie cites the example of the consumer electronics industry where contract manufacturing is normal and the Tier 1 supplier is really just a gatekeeper to a number of external manufacturers.</p><p>It's also quite common in some industries to have "directed buys", where the end customer dictates to a Tier 1 supplier where to buy certain components to buy from further down the supply chain.</p><p>Having the ability to track your BOM electronically, through one platform, gives a whole new level of transparency and visibility.</p><h3>Leveraging AI to capitalise on savings and limit price impact</h3><p>With constant price fluctuations in direct materials, there is also an AI element built into the software which allows for intelligent switching of suppliers in the case where components are dual-sourced.</p><p>Getting the mix right based on capacity, price, lead time and availability can certainly be managed manually but is very difficult to optimise due to lack of perfect knowledge. Ravacan can do this and intelligently switch the percentage split based on a number of different criteria.</p><h3>Why go with an all-in-one solution rather than best-of-breed?</h3><p>Ravacan offers modules that cover:</p><ul><li>"Should cost" analysis</li><li>Demand planning</li><li>Spend analytics</li></ul><br/><p>By incorporating all of these into one platform, the "if this, then that" analysis is much easier to calculate when all of this intelligence is within one platform.</p><p>So, while a best-of-breed solution for each of these may go into more granular detail and have more features, having three different platforms and getting them to communicate with one another for predictive analytics would almost certainly pose a challenge.</p><h3>Vendor tooling management capability</h3><p>Something close to my heart as an ex-automotive direct materials buyer, Ravacan offers the ability to have a digital tooling asset register within the platform.</p><p>Knowing where all of your tools are, and being able to stay on top of when a supplier moves them from one manufacturing facility to another, can be a nightmare. I remember having suppliers going into administration early in my career and us not having a clear picture of where all of our tools were.</p><p>Tooling can often be VERY expensive.</p><p>It's a bit like owning gold or bitcoin and not having any clue where it's stored. Being able to track this digitally is a huge administrative saving, and also has a big impact when it comes to increasing transparency and compliance.</p><p>It also has an impact on quality too, through being able to proactively track refurbishments and repairs to tools that you own that are under suppliers' responsibility for maintenance and link these back to any quality improvements or corrective actions.</p><h3>How big do companies need to be to see ROI from this?</h3><p>Surprisingly, you don't need to be a large enterprise to see the benefits of having all of this data in one space and be able to run predictive analytics.</p><p>Anne-Sophie describes the sweet spot as being mid-market through to enterprise clients, but especially those who are heavily into a contract manufacturing model with a complex supply chain, dual sourcing and lots of owned tooling on suppliers' premises.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aslebloas/" target="_blank">Connect with Anne-Sophie on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Visit <a href="https://www.ravacan.com/" target="_blank">Ravacan's website here</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this week's show we're digging into the world of direct materials sourcing. It's a part of the digital procurement landscape that's been a bit neglected, except for e-sourcing tools, and my guest this week decided to do something about this.</p><p>Anne-Sophie Le Bloas, Founder and CEO of Ravacan, experienced in both her native Europe and also in the US, that there wasn't much innovation out there when it came to leveraging digital tools to manage direct materials spend, and set out to remedy this.</p><h2><strong>Creating visibility, analytics and clarity in the direct materials space</strong></h2><p>Part of a rare breed, Anne-Sophie is a fellow ex-Procurement Category Manager turned startup founder. She studied Procurement and Supply Chain in Bordeaux and then moved into the corporate world, starting out in the FMCG industry, moving then into aeronautics and then finally the automotive industry.</p><p>Against this backdrop, there is a lot of focus around specification and quality, while at the same time ensuring cost reduction. Engineering and technical decisions are key, but at the same time there is a lot of pressure on cost, especially in lower margin industries such as automotive.</p><h3>Is it hard to get conversations with innovators and change agents?</h3><p>Traditional manufacturing is an industry where change often happens very slowly and is difficult to drive innovation and different ways of doing things. I was therefore curious to understand whether Anne-Sophie had experienced challenges getting traction if she is selling software into these types of businesses.</p><p>She admits that there have been challenges, but also says that she tried to target the innovators and change agents within these businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has definitely helped to accelerate the appetite for change and embracing potential new ideas, partly as a result of supply chain shortages, inflationary pressures and longer lead times.</p><p>The ability to be able to make decisions faster and to have the bigger picture at your fingertips has been a key factor in driving acceptance of using software. Moving to a remote working environment during COVID meant that previous interactions that would take place within a production plant no longer could, if white collar functions such as Procurement and R&amp;D were working from home.</p><h3>What's wrong with managing directs within an ERP?</h3><p>Understanding knock-on effects and having predictive models to be able to evaluate this impact on the overall supply chain is key. This is something that's very hard to do from within an ERP system.</p><p>For example if a COVID lockdown closes down a factory in a certain part of the world, how can you model this from within your ERP or using a spreadsheet?&nbsp;Asynchronous ways of working are too slow. Data may have changed by the time you have tried to update and work collaboratively on an Excel and email-based project.</p><h3>Managing multiple tiers of supply and directed buys</h3><p>Direct material supply chains often have added layers of complexity, where you need to understand relationships beyond your 1st tier suppliers. Anne-Sophie cites the example of the consumer electronics industry where contract manufacturing is normal and the Tier 1 supplier is really just a gatekeeper to a number of external manufacturers.</p><p>It's also quite common in some industries to have "directed buys", where the end customer dictates to a Tier 1 supplier where to buy certain components to buy from further down the supply chain.</p><p>Having the ability to track your BOM electronically, through one platform, gives a whole new level of transparency and visibility.</p><h3>Leveraging AI to capitalise on savings and limit price impact</h3><p>With constant price fluctuations in direct materials, there is also an AI element built into the software which allows for intelligent switching of suppliers in the case where components are dual-sourced.</p><p>Getting the mix right based on capacity, price, lead time and availability can certainly be managed manually but is very difficult to optimise due to lack of perfect knowledge. Ravacan can do this and intelligently switch the percentage split based on a number of different criteria.</p><h3>Why go with an all-in-one solution rather than best-of-breed?</h3><p>Ravacan offers modules that cover:</p><ul><li>"Should cost" analysis</li><li>Demand planning</li><li>Spend analytics</li></ul><br/><p>By incorporating all of these into one platform, the "if this, then that" analysis is much easier to calculate when all of this intelligence is within one platform.</p><p>So, while a best-of-breed solution for each of these may go into more granular detail and have more features, having three different platforms and getting them to communicate with one another for predictive analytics would almost certainly pose a challenge.</p><h3>Vendor tooling management capability</h3><p>Something close to my heart as an ex-automotive direct materials buyer, Ravacan offers the ability to have a digital tooling asset register within the platform.</p><p>Knowing where all of your tools are, and being able to stay on top of when a supplier moves them from one manufacturing facility to another, can be a nightmare. I remember having suppliers going into administration early in my career and us not having a clear picture of where all of our tools were.</p><p>Tooling can often be VERY expensive.</p><p>It's a bit like owning gold or bitcoin and not having any clue where it's stored. Being able to track this digitally is a huge administrative saving, and also has a big impact when it comes to increasing transparency and compliance.</p><p>It also has an impact on quality too, through being able to proactively track refurbishments and repairs to tools that you own that are under suppliers' responsibility for maintenance and link these back to any quality improvements or corrective actions.</p><h3>How big do companies need to be to see ROI from this?</h3><p>Surprisingly, you don't need to be a large enterprise to see the benefits of having all of this data in one space and be able to run predictive analytics.</p><p>Anne-Sophie describes the sweet spot as being mid-market through to enterprise clients, but especially those who are heavily into a contract manufacturing model with a complex supply chain, dual sourcing and lots of owned tooling on suppliers' premises.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aslebloas/" target="_blank">Connect with Anne-Sophie on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Visit <a href="https://www.ravacan.com/" target="_blank">Ravacan's website here</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ded5f261-1da5-4c44-af21-d06b54ac3619</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dd94e42f-b609-42d6-97b5-85bfdf0d1713/procuretech-anne-sophie-le-bloas-ravaca-s2e25.mp3" length="28973393" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Acquisition, and Evolution of Spend Analytics – Arvid Fredin from Spendency</title><itunes:title>Acquisition, and Evolution of Spend Analytics – Arvid Fredin from Spendency</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Spend analytics is a pretty mature (and competitive) market. So, what does this hold for the future?</p><p>No better person to ask than the former CEO of Spendency, Arvid Fredin. They were recently acquired by German source-to-pay technology company Onventis. Arvid stayed on post-acquisition and is now Managing Director of Onventis' operations for the UK and Nordic countries, and joins me on this week's episode.</p><h2><strong>A recent acquisition, and how this may shape the future of spend analytics</strong></h2><p>A good place to start is actually to talk about the recent acquisition of Spendency. Is this part of a wider pattern that is emerging? Are we starting to see more consolidation in the market? And if so, why are we seeing it?</p><h3>Will there be more consolidation and what is driving this?</h3><p>Arvid suggests that the driver is often the desire to get more productivity from their sales force. Being best-of-breed and focusing on one specific solution often means that it's more difficult to get warm leads who are looking for exactly what you're offering.</p><p>But is the growth coming from customers who are switching away from some of the legacy suites, or is there still enough business to go after from companies who are still at the beginning of their digital transformation journey?</p><p>Greenfield customers are easier to win over because:</p><ol><li>No existing solution in place as a benchmark to compare against</li><li>No switching costs to consider to phase out a legacy application</li></ol><br/><p>As soon as there are fewer opportunities out there in terms of greenfield customers, Arvid suspects there will be much more consolidation.</p><h3>The difference between natively coded tech vs. Power BI or Tableau</h3><p>Spendency is actually natively coded, whereas many spend analytics solutions out there, as well as anything natively developed in-house by organisations themselves, usually relies on third party technology.</p><p>The most common of these are Power BI and Tableau.</p><p>From a price perspective, this gives Spendency an advantage because they're not paying third party licensing fees. But it also allows them to be able to run queries much faster and more efficiently because their technology is specifically designed for procurement spend analytics reporting. Whereas third party technology on the other hand is built having to be something that can offer all things to all people.</p><p>This affects overall user experience as well as the cost of the solution.</p><h3>To AI or not to AI: How far can automation get you?</h3><p>Spendency currently doesn't utilise AI for their analytics solution, so the obvious question is do you actually need it?</p><p>Arvid looks at two ways that AI can be built into spend analytics:</p><ol><li>For efficiency and to reduce manual, time consuming tasks to enable procurement teams to spend time on more value added activities. This is the type of AI that is typically being used these days in spend analytics software</li><li>The more exciting, sexy future where AI engine is able to pick up on smart signals and made recommendations.</li></ol><br/><p>We're not there yet with #2, but this is where the exciting future could be.</p><p>Using AI for categorisation of spend is definitely on their roadmap. But having AI working together with a Category Manager is likely to be the common model of deploying spend analytics solutions in the near future.</p><p>Enabling Category Managers to see the categorisation rules is key to this, to remove the "black magic" from the process and ensure that the tool has credibility.</p><p>Getting to 80-90% categorisation should be possible with technology, but getting to 100% is always going to be a challenge without any human interaction in the process.</p><h3>Is there a difference between what Consultants need vs. Category Managers?</h3><p>Arvid explains that Spendency evolved through Effso, a Swedish management consulting firm, and was eventually spun off as a separate business.</p><p>The needs of a Management Consultant are indeed different than the needs of a Category Manager or Procurement Excellence Manager.</p><p>Initial categorisation and a holistic view of the spend is important for a consultancy. Whereas maintaining and developing the right structures and having taxonomy at a PO line item level detail is key for Category Managers.</p><h3>Can Mid-Market Businesses run a Spend Analytics tool without extra support?</h3><p>Not necessarily, but there IS definitely a requirement to have a strong internal implementation team and to ensure that users can be trained post implementation.</p><p>Due to Spendency's history with their roots as a management consulting firm, they have found that sometimes the two go hand-in-hand. But spend analytics tools should be able to be run and managed by in-house teams, without the need for an intensive period of hyper care or hand holding. It's not the same as complex source-to-pay software in that sense.</p><h3>Has Spendency succeeded in attracting larger clients too?</h3><p>Yes, they have seen over the past couple of years that they have</p><p>The product they had 5 years ago would not have been suitable for an international enterprise, whereas what they have now would be able to fulfil their needs.</p><p>Therefore, Arvid says it's difficult to segment from natural evolution of having a more advanced and mature product vs. changes to customer requirements.</p><h3>What are Arvid's predictions for the future?</h3><p>This was really interesting and so glad I asked the question. These are his thoughts and predictions:</p><ol><li>Best-of-breed and suites will continue to co-exist.</li><li>There will be more consolidation in the industry as the number of greenfield customers in mature markets diminishes.</li><li>Spend analytics solutions specifically will be prime acquisition targets because the native solutions in this space that are offered as part of the suites are not so strong.</li></ol><br/><h3>Stay in Touch</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arvidfredin/" target="_blank">Connect with Arvid on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://spendency.com/" target="_blank">Spendency website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spend analytics is a pretty mature (and competitive) market. So, what does this hold for the future?</p><p>No better person to ask than the former CEO of Spendency, Arvid Fredin. They were recently acquired by German source-to-pay technology company Onventis. Arvid stayed on post-acquisition and is now Managing Director of Onventis' operations for the UK and Nordic countries, and joins me on this week's episode.</p><h2><strong>A recent acquisition, and how this may shape the future of spend analytics</strong></h2><p>A good place to start is actually to talk about the recent acquisition of Spendency. Is this part of a wider pattern that is emerging? Are we starting to see more consolidation in the market? And if so, why are we seeing it?</p><h3>Will there be more consolidation and what is driving this?</h3><p>Arvid suggests that the driver is often the desire to get more productivity from their sales force. Being best-of-breed and focusing on one specific solution often means that it's more difficult to get warm leads who are looking for exactly what you're offering.</p><p>But is the growth coming from customers who are switching away from some of the legacy suites, or is there still enough business to go after from companies who are still at the beginning of their digital transformation journey?</p><p>Greenfield customers are easier to win over because:</p><ol><li>No existing solution in place as a benchmark to compare against</li><li>No switching costs to consider to phase out a legacy application</li></ol><br/><p>As soon as there are fewer opportunities out there in terms of greenfield customers, Arvid suspects there will be much more consolidation.</p><h3>The difference between natively coded tech vs. Power BI or Tableau</h3><p>Spendency is actually natively coded, whereas many spend analytics solutions out there, as well as anything natively developed in-house by organisations themselves, usually relies on third party technology.</p><p>The most common of these are Power BI and Tableau.</p><p>From a price perspective, this gives Spendency an advantage because they're not paying third party licensing fees. But it also allows them to be able to run queries much faster and more efficiently because their technology is specifically designed for procurement spend analytics reporting. Whereas third party technology on the other hand is built having to be something that can offer all things to all people.</p><p>This affects overall user experience as well as the cost of the solution.</p><h3>To AI or not to AI: How far can automation get you?</h3><p>Spendency currently doesn't utilise AI for their analytics solution, so the obvious question is do you actually need it?</p><p>Arvid looks at two ways that AI can be built into spend analytics:</p><ol><li>For efficiency and to reduce manual, time consuming tasks to enable procurement teams to spend time on more value added activities. This is the type of AI that is typically being used these days in spend analytics software</li><li>The more exciting, sexy future where AI engine is able to pick up on smart signals and made recommendations.</li></ol><br/><p>We're not there yet with #2, but this is where the exciting future could be.</p><p>Using AI for categorisation of spend is definitely on their roadmap. But having AI working together with a Category Manager is likely to be the common model of deploying spend analytics solutions in the near future.</p><p>Enabling Category Managers to see the categorisation rules is key to this, to remove the "black magic" from the process and ensure that the tool has credibility.</p><p>Getting to 80-90% categorisation should be possible with technology, but getting to 100% is always going to be a challenge without any human interaction in the process.</p><h3>Is there a difference between what Consultants need vs. Category Managers?</h3><p>Arvid explains that Spendency evolved through Effso, a Swedish management consulting firm, and was eventually spun off as a separate business.</p><p>The needs of a Management Consultant are indeed different than the needs of a Category Manager or Procurement Excellence Manager.</p><p>Initial categorisation and a holistic view of the spend is important for a consultancy. Whereas maintaining and developing the right structures and having taxonomy at a PO line item level detail is key for Category Managers.</p><h3>Can Mid-Market Businesses run a Spend Analytics tool without extra support?</h3><p>Not necessarily, but there IS definitely a requirement to have a strong internal implementation team and to ensure that users can be trained post implementation.</p><p>Due to Spendency's history with their roots as a management consulting firm, they have found that sometimes the two go hand-in-hand. But spend analytics tools should be able to be run and managed by in-house teams, without the need for an intensive period of hyper care or hand holding. It's not the same as complex source-to-pay software in that sense.</p><h3>Has Spendency succeeded in attracting larger clients too?</h3><p>Yes, they have seen over the past couple of years that they have</p><p>The product they had 5 years ago would not have been suitable for an international enterprise, whereas what they have now would be able to fulfil their needs.</p><p>Therefore, Arvid says it's difficult to segment from natural evolution of having a more advanced and mature product vs. changes to customer requirements.</p><h3>What are Arvid's predictions for the future?</h3><p>This was really interesting and so glad I asked the question. These are his thoughts and predictions:</p><ol><li>Best-of-breed and suites will continue to co-exist.</li><li>There will be more consolidation in the industry as the number of greenfield customers in mature markets diminishes.</li><li>Spend analytics solutions specifically will be prime acquisition targets because the native solutions in this space that are offered as part of the suites are not so strong.</li></ol><br/><h3>Stay in Touch</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arvidfredin/" target="_blank">Connect with Arvid on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://spendency.com/" target="_blank">Spendency website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aefb1636-76b6-458f-be21-016943e37c05</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d5fb8b52-8cb0-427b-8da4-55c11d29d8bd/procuretech-ep-24-arvid.mp3" length="28408730" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Spinning a Startup out of Corporate – Michael Pleuger from akirolabs</title><itunes:title>Spinning a Startup out of Corporate – Michael Pleuger from akirolabs</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>There are many great stories about how startups are created, but this one is particularly interesting. Take a procurement organisation that is often cited as best-in-class, and then challenge it with becoming even better.</p><p>My guest on today's show, Michael Pleuger, is a former Senior Executive at Vodafone Procurement who had the mandate to do just that. The result became akirolabs, and the journey of how this happened is our discussion today.</p><h2><strong>Making a Best-In-Class Procurement Team even Better: The story of akirolabs and the strive for excellence</strong></h2><p>Michael's journey with Vodafone started out with him being part of the team who designed and launched the Vodafone Procurement Company, headquarted in Luxembourg.</p><p>akirolabs is the first AI-enabled collaboration platform for strategic procurement, and was borne out of him being challenged by Vodafone Procurement Company's Founder and CEO (now akirolabs Co-Founder) Detlef Schultz, to take their already mature procurement digitisation to the next level.</p><h3>Beyond category management: filling a white space in today's procurement technology landscape</h3><p>To set the scene, Vodafone already had industry-leading digitisation and was performing as one of the best-in-class organisations when it comes to three KPIs of measuring the effectiveness of procurement:</p><ul><li>Value contribution</li><li>Compliance</li><li>Efficiency</li></ul><br/><p>Michael couldn't see at first anything missing from the existing set-up. How do you take that and improve on it.</p><p>All operational and tactical procurement was already digitised and automated to a high degree, so the question that Michael got to work on was: how can we make the more strategic side of procurement more digital?</p><h3>Thinking outside the box and looking at other industries</h3><p>Michael's proposal was working around replacing experience with vision, leadership and collaboration.</p><p>One of the first things the team did was to bring in McLaren Applied Technologies: the data and analytics spin-off of the McLaren F1 racing team. Just doing that in itself shows that bringing best practices from other industries or walks of life can have a huge impact. When you consider just how many data points a motor racing team has to measure to get one step ahead of their rivals, it's not surprising that the insights they could offer were hugely insightful.</p><p>Classic thinking outside the box. Not "what is our competitor doing?"</p><h3>How did they arrive at Category Management as the focus area?</h3><p>Procurement is in a unique position as the node between the business and the supply chain. No other function in the business works with such a diverse range of stakeholders within the business and at the same time looks outwards with the relationships that we manage with external suppliers.</p><p>So, what is needed to optimise and leverage this position?</p><ol><li>Connectivity: being the spider at the centre of the web has limited usefulness if the communication channels between all of the interconnected parties are not smooth and accessible to all.</li><li>Prevent Silos and Fragmentation: the necessity to have some kind of "digital glue", as Michael describes it, to prevent this fragmentation between all of the different stakeholders we come into contact with, both internal and external.</li><li>AI to leverage both the Demand and Supply factors: Procurement essentially works with internal business partners to understand the demands of the business, and then communicates this to external suppliers to understand and secure the supply-related aspects of the puzzle.</li></ol><br/><p>With these three factors, the team then concluded that the Category Management process would be the best way to bring all of this together in some digital form.</p><h3>But does this translate to the average procurement team?</h3><p>It's one thing doing this for EUR 26 billion of spend in an extremely mature procurement organisation, but can it translate to the average mid-market business whose digital journey is way less mature?</p><p>Michael argues that even if a function is not mature now, having a category management tool such as akirolabs can help organisations to boost their maturity through the world class capabilities that are embedded into the platform.</p><p>That's great, but even when taking budget and organisational maturity aside, what about the people factor? Can this approach still work in a procurement team that isn't stacked with the best talent?</p><p>It's more a case of attitude rather than pure capability. The platform delivers a large part of the potential capability gap. The key is to be open-minded towards change, regardless of experience levels within any team.</p><p>Michael describes a quadrant of the need for collaboration vs. the degree of complexity of the task. The sweet spot for leveraging what they have developed with akirolabs is o have&nbsp;world class methodology embedded into an intuitive workflow, which is then enriched through business foresight with the help of artificial intelligence.</p><h3>But will Category Management be dead in future?</h3><p>The business doesn't think in categories. So, what is the relevance for this management model of procurement as we move forward?</p><p>Whereas on the one hand, driving savings will always be a priority for procurement, different businesses require different outcomes from procurement. Not all of these are modelled around managing a category of spend.</p><p>For example, gaining efficiencies and driving innovation, to name just two. Take the example of a rapidly scaling startup that needs a procurement function to help their growth while at the same time managing risk and ensuring compliance.</p><p>Or one of the Covid vaccine manufacturers who need to work cross-category to ensure there are the raw materials and third-party manufacturing supply chains in place, while at the same time ensuring distribution and logistics to get the product out to those who are expecting it in a timely manner.</p><p>A rigid, siloed procurement organisation who only works in category teams is poorly aligned to the business in these cases.</p><h3>What industry sector or level of procurement maturity does this concept suit?</h3><p>It theoretically fits into every industry with the "beyond category" concept. However, some industries, such as retail, could find it difficult to adopt.</p><p>SMEs can indeed also use it, but there does need to be a certain degree of complexity in any organisation to really be able to leverage all that it can offer. A single-site manufacturing facility would probably not get much benefit from such a tool.</p><p>The "single source of truth" concept of having all of your data in one place and being able to maintain continuity when there are people changes in an organisation does, at the end of the day, deliver value to organisations of all sizes.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-pleuger-7bb96b/" target="_blank">Connect with Michael on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://akirolabs.com/" target="_blank">akirolabs website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many great stories about how startups are created, but this one is particularly interesting. Take a procurement organisation that is often cited as best-in-class, and then challenge it with becoming even better.</p><p>My guest on today's show, Michael Pleuger, is a former Senior Executive at Vodafone Procurement who had the mandate to do just that. The result became akirolabs, and the journey of how this happened is our discussion today.</p><h2><strong>Making a Best-In-Class Procurement Team even Better: The story of akirolabs and the strive for excellence</strong></h2><p>Michael's journey with Vodafone started out with him being part of the team who designed and launched the Vodafone Procurement Company, headquarted in Luxembourg.</p><p>akirolabs is the first AI-enabled collaboration platform for strategic procurement, and was borne out of him being challenged by Vodafone Procurement Company's Founder and CEO (now akirolabs Co-Founder) Detlef Schultz, to take their already mature procurement digitisation to the next level.</p><h3>Beyond category management: filling a white space in today's procurement technology landscape</h3><p>To set the scene, Vodafone already had industry-leading digitisation and was performing as one of the best-in-class organisations when it comes to three KPIs of measuring the effectiveness of procurement:</p><ul><li>Value contribution</li><li>Compliance</li><li>Efficiency</li></ul><br/><p>Michael couldn't see at first anything missing from the existing set-up. How do you take that and improve on it.</p><p>All operational and tactical procurement was already digitised and automated to a high degree, so the question that Michael got to work on was: how can we make the more strategic side of procurement more digital?</p><h3>Thinking outside the box and looking at other industries</h3><p>Michael's proposal was working around replacing experience with vision, leadership and collaboration.</p><p>One of the first things the team did was to bring in McLaren Applied Technologies: the data and analytics spin-off of the McLaren F1 racing team. Just doing that in itself shows that bringing best practices from other industries or walks of life can have a huge impact. When you consider just how many data points a motor racing team has to measure to get one step ahead of their rivals, it's not surprising that the insights they could offer were hugely insightful.</p><p>Classic thinking outside the box. Not "what is our competitor doing?"</p><h3>How did they arrive at Category Management as the focus area?</h3><p>Procurement is in a unique position as the node between the business and the supply chain. No other function in the business works with such a diverse range of stakeholders within the business and at the same time looks outwards with the relationships that we manage with external suppliers.</p><p>So, what is needed to optimise and leverage this position?</p><ol><li>Connectivity: being the spider at the centre of the web has limited usefulness if the communication channels between all of the interconnected parties are not smooth and accessible to all.</li><li>Prevent Silos and Fragmentation: the necessity to have some kind of "digital glue", as Michael describes it, to prevent this fragmentation between all of the different stakeholders we come into contact with, both internal and external.</li><li>AI to leverage both the Demand and Supply factors: Procurement essentially works with internal business partners to understand the demands of the business, and then communicates this to external suppliers to understand and secure the supply-related aspects of the puzzle.</li></ol><br/><p>With these three factors, the team then concluded that the Category Management process would be the best way to bring all of this together in some digital form.</p><h3>But does this translate to the average procurement team?</h3><p>It's one thing doing this for EUR 26 billion of spend in an extremely mature procurement organisation, but can it translate to the average mid-market business whose digital journey is way less mature?</p><p>Michael argues that even if a function is not mature now, having a category management tool such as akirolabs can help organisations to boost their maturity through the world class capabilities that are embedded into the platform.</p><p>That's great, but even when taking budget and organisational maturity aside, what about the people factor? Can this approach still work in a procurement team that isn't stacked with the best talent?</p><p>It's more a case of attitude rather than pure capability. The platform delivers a large part of the potential capability gap. The key is to be open-minded towards change, regardless of experience levels within any team.</p><p>Michael describes a quadrant of the need for collaboration vs. the degree of complexity of the task. The sweet spot for leveraging what they have developed with akirolabs is o have&nbsp;world class methodology embedded into an intuitive workflow, which is then enriched through business foresight with the help of artificial intelligence.</p><h3>But will Category Management be dead in future?</h3><p>The business doesn't think in categories. So, what is the relevance for this management model of procurement as we move forward?</p><p>Whereas on the one hand, driving savings will always be a priority for procurement, different businesses require different outcomes from procurement. Not all of these are modelled around managing a category of spend.</p><p>For example, gaining efficiencies and driving innovation, to name just two. Take the example of a rapidly scaling startup that needs a procurement function to help their growth while at the same time managing risk and ensuring compliance.</p><p>Or one of the Covid vaccine manufacturers who need to work cross-category to ensure there are the raw materials and third-party manufacturing supply chains in place, while at the same time ensuring distribution and logistics to get the product out to those who are expecting it in a timely manner.</p><p>A rigid, siloed procurement organisation who only works in category teams is poorly aligned to the business in these cases.</p><h3>What industry sector or level of procurement maturity does this concept suit?</h3><p>It theoretically fits into every industry with the "beyond category" concept. However, some industries, such as retail, could find it difficult to adopt.</p><p>SMEs can indeed also use it, but there does need to be a certain degree of complexity in any organisation to really be able to leverage all that it can offer. A single-site manufacturing facility would probably not get much benefit from such a tool.</p><p>The "single source of truth" concept of having all of your data in one place and being able to maintain continuity when there are people changes in an organisation does, at the end of the day, deliver value to organisations of all sizes.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-pleuger-7bb96b/" target="_blank">Connect with Michael on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://akirolabs.com/" target="_blank">akirolabs website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6345d035-bfb9-48f4-a1f4-ba94501d5ec1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e48f1ab5-2bd8-471e-9e31-8ffe620c632d/procuretech-micheal-pleuger-akirolabs-s2e23.mp3" length="33853066" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Network of Procuretech Startups – Andreas Zimmermann from Supplytechs</title><itunes:title>A Network of Procuretech Startups – Andreas Zimmermann from Supplytechs</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent">We look at something a little bit different on this week’s show and examine how one startup Founder decided to start his own community of procurement software startups to help to promote his own.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">To be able to learn from other procurement tech companies and jointly market each other’s solutions at the same time is a great, innovative way to increase attention to your own business. Andreas Zimmermann, CEO of MySupply and Supplytechs joins me to tell his story.</span></p><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">How one Founder created a community of startups to grow his Procuretech company</span></h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas began his career as a Consultant and this led him to start his entrepreneur’s journey, at the time also in the consulting space.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">MySupply evolved from this as he saw the need for an affordable e-Sourcing tool for non-enterprise businesses that can leverage AI to automate parts of the sourcing process, to point the buyer towards the right e-sourcing strategy for a specific project.&nbsp;</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Recognising the typical challenges that Startups have</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Speeding up the process from minimum viable product (MVP) to having a reliable stream of revenue is the biggest challenge for every startup.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Usually in the early stage, a startup will not have a big marketing team or a huge budget to spend on ads. So, finding ways to organically (or relatively affordably) get attention onto the product is going to be key. Even more so if a startup in the early stages is self-funded and not backed by VC money.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Enter Supplytechs as a potential solution</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">So, without a huge Sales &amp; Marketing team or budget, being able to effectively and affordably start to bring in revenue is key.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas explains how the usual route of doing a roadshow at conferences and at industry events was kind of dependent on the other parties being interested (and of course, it’s also not free). Meaning that ultimately, the ability to start generating sales was really outside of their control to a large extent.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">They noticed that other startups in the space may be targeting the same customers but are not necessarily in direct competition with MySupply, and so the seed was planted that there was perhaps a smarter way to combine resources and to help one another in some way.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why not just sponsor an event instead?</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Startups just don’t have the budget to compete with the bigger boys when it comes to event sponsorship. Attending events is fantastic from a marketing perspective but the costs to be a sponsor are just too prohibitively expensive. This is also reflected when you see the types of companies that sponsor these conferences and events. Even well funded, later stage startups are rarely seen in the list of sponsors.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How to go about getting others on board with the idea?</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas explained that he used COVID as a catalyst to get some buzz around the idea to do a digital event. With all events and conferences being cancelled, this gave him the impetus to reach out to other startups and potential speakers and there was a lot of interest, for obvious reasons.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">They recently in September just did their third Supplytechs Digital Conference which was a pitch event featuring some of the startups who are a part of Supplytechs.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging collaboration</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">While there may be some companies in the Supplytechs network who are theoretically competing with one another, it is rare that two startups are both going after and competing against one another for a sale with the exact same customer.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">And while it could happen at some point, the power of the network and the knowledge contained within each of the different startups is really a force of momentum that can help all of them grow and develop in the right direction. Especially when considering the real competition is either legacy software in organisations, or processes which use Excel and Sharepoint that could be digitised.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Discovering the full potential</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas acknowledges that Supplytechs is still in its early stages and there are numerous directions that the network could go in terms of servicing the needs of its participants.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Having mentors, consultants, pooled resources for things like advertising, sales and marketing can be a very powerful platform to serve the pain points of the network.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging i-Pass to handle customer objections around connecting Best-of-Breed solutions&nbsp;</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">A common reluctance to go best-of-breed is often the perception or the concern that it will be technically difficult and problematic to integrate a number of different, independent software solutions and get them to talk to each other. Supplytechs is tackling this through offering support through the i-Pass solution. This is a smart way to easily connect numerous APIs and solutions together and get them to play nicely with one another, without the need for large consulting projects or IT resources.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Going international</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Supplytechs has been a predominantly German network through its early stages, but they are keen to grow and have more global representation. They are already international with&nbsp;Scandinavian and British startups as part of the network, but are keen to expand this and gain a foothold in North America with some startups from the US and Canada.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszimmermann/" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">Connect with Andreas on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://procuretechs.com" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">Supplytechs website</a></li><li><a href="https://mysupply.de/en/" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">MySupply website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent">We look at something a little bit different on this week’s show and examine how one startup Founder decided to start his own community of procurement software startups to help to promote his own.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">To be able to learn from other procurement tech companies and jointly market each other’s solutions at the same time is a great, innovative way to increase attention to your own business. Andreas Zimmermann, CEO of MySupply and Supplytechs joins me to tell his story.</span></p><h2><span style="background-color: transparent">How one Founder created a community of startups to grow his Procuretech company</span></h2><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas began his career as a Consultant and this led him to start his entrepreneur’s journey, at the time also in the consulting space.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">MySupply evolved from this as he saw the need for an affordable e-Sourcing tool for non-enterprise businesses that can leverage AI to automate parts of the sourcing process, to point the buyer towards the right e-sourcing strategy for a specific project.&nbsp;</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Recognising the typical challenges that Startups have</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Speeding up the process from minimum viable product (MVP) to having a reliable stream of revenue is the biggest challenge for every startup.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Usually in the early stage, a startup will not have a big marketing team or a huge budget to spend on ads. So, finding ways to organically (or relatively affordably) get attention onto the product is going to be key. Even more so if a startup in the early stages is self-funded and not backed by VC money.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Enter Supplytechs as a potential solution</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">So, without a huge Sales &amp; Marketing team or budget, being able to effectively and affordably start to bring in revenue is key.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas explains how the usual route of doing a roadshow at conferences and at industry events was kind of dependent on the other parties being interested (and of course, it’s also not free). Meaning that ultimately, the ability to start generating sales was really outside of their control to a large extent.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">They noticed that other startups in the space may be targeting the same customers but are not necessarily in direct competition with MySupply, and so the seed was planted that there was perhaps a smarter way to combine resources and to help one another in some way.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why not just sponsor an event instead?</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Startups just don’t have the budget to compete with the bigger boys when it comes to event sponsorship. Attending events is fantastic from a marketing perspective but the costs to be a sponsor are just too prohibitively expensive. This is also reflected when you see the types of companies that sponsor these conferences and events. Even well funded, later stage startups are rarely seen in the list of sponsors.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How to go about getting others on board with the idea?</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas explained that he used COVID as a catalyst to get some buzz around the idea to do a digital event. With all events and conferences being cancelled, this gave him the impetus to reach out to other startups and potential speakers and there was a lot of interest, for obvious reasons.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">They recently in September just did their third Supplytechs Digital Conference which was a pitch event featuring some of the startups who are a part of Supplytechs.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging collaboration</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">While there may be some companies in the Supplytechs network who are theoretically competing with one another, it is rare that two startups are both going after and competing against one another for a sale with the exact same customer.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">And while it could happen at some point, the power of the network and the knowledge contained within each of the different startups is really a force of momentum that can help all of them grow and develop in the right direction. Especially when considering the real competition is either legacy software in organisations, or processes which use Excel and Sharepoint that could be digitised.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Discovering the full potential</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Andreas acknowledges that Supplytechs is still in its early stages and there are numerous directions that the network could go in terms of servicing the needs of its participants.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Having mentors, consultants, pooled resources for things like advertising, sales and marketing can be a very powerful platform to serve the pain points of the network.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging i-Pass to handle customer objections around connecting Best-of-Breed solutions&nbsp;</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">A common reluctance to go best-of-breed is often the perception or the concern that it will be technically difficult and problematic to integrate a number of different, independent software solutions and get them to talk to each other. Supplytechs is tackling this through offering support through the i-Pass solution. This is a smart way to easily connect numerous APIs and solutions together and get them to play nicely with one another, without the need for large consulting projects or IT resources.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Going international</span></h3><p><span style="background-color: transparent">Supplytechs has been a predominantly German network through its early stages, but they are keen to grow and have more global representation. They are already international with&nbsp;Scandinavian and British startups as part of the network, but are keen to expand this and gain a foothold in North America with some startups from the US and Canada.</span></p><h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszimmermann/" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">Connect with Andreas on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://procuretechs.com" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">Supplytechs website</a></li><li><a href="https://mysupply.de/en/" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent">MySupply website</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d1c998f7-c5ca-4f46-9cf7-dbcc6d5298d0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/573fba76-9ef1-4a3e-8978-e5c2f9b10179/copy-of-procuretech-andreas-zimmermann-supplytech-s2e22.mp3" length="31995237" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>The People Factor in Digital Transformation: The Procuretech Pub with Florian Kleemann</title><itunes:title>The People Factor in Digital Transformation: The Procuretech Pub with Florian Kleemann</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>We're back with another Pub episode, where we dive a little bit deeper into a topic than we do in our normal podcasts and really break down a hot topic in a more informal chat format.</p><p>My guest for this one is Prof. Dr. Florian Kleemann. He's a university professor, author of four German language procurement textbooks and also a former consultant. We dive into the topic of how people are a vital factor in change management. A digital transformation project, or orchestrating the changes to make a procurement team fit for the future, are both great examples in this regard.</p><h2>Getting Your People Strategy Right for Change Management, Digital Transformation and Orchestrating the Procurement Organisation of the Future</h2><p>We kick off the discussion by me asking Florian how he sees the skill set of procurement professionals evolving as we move forward.</p><p>While on the one hand, Procurement will definitely become more robot-driven for some tasks, he sees the function becoming more of a jack-of-all-trades as we expand our remit into other areas and become more versatile as professionals. By this, he doesn't mean tactical and strategic procurement being mixed, rather the increasing professionalisation and specialisation of procurement as a profession will result in procurement professionals being involved in different areas of the business.</p><h3>Florian's 4 key areas for managing change</h3><ul><li>Digitalisation</li><li>Innovation</li><li>Resilience</li><li>Agility</li></ul><br/><p>Digitalisation should not be seen as the future of procurement in itself: it's more the enabler to help free up procurement resources to concentrate on more strategic topics.</p><p>When considering resilience, we also need to bring in the increasing importance of the sustainability discussion as part of this too.</p><p>Touching also on soft skills - selling, influence, persuasion - the type of skills that are often more associated with Sales &amp; Marketing teams, are becoming ever more important to procurement professionals too.</p><p>Procurement, as Florian argues, should be seen as a <strong>service</strong>, but not as <strong>servants</strong> to our internal stakeholders.</p><p>Taking your team on the change journey from process-driven or compliance-driven to a more agile, strategic function will require a change in the skill set but also a change in the mindset. If you're having to control and beat down your stakeholders to a large extent to keep them in check, then Florian argues that as a procurement team, you have failed to provide a viable strategy and with it, the means of easily and efficiently procuring goods and services.</p><p>Start with the most eager or most engaged stakeholders to get some quick wins, and then move on from there.</p><h3>Can Greenfield Procurement organisations outperform Mature Procurement functions?</h3><p>I make the example of how many African countries have gone from having no functioning fixed line telecommunications network to jumping a technological generation and rapidly adopting mobile phones. Indeed in Kenya, for example, mobile payments technology is more advanced and more widely adopted than in most European countries.</p><p>Could the same apply to Procurement in organisations who are starting a centrally managed procurement team from scratch?</p><p>Florian does see some opportunity here, but also argues that if the pace of change is too quick, then it is usually not aligned to the overall corporate goals.</p><p>"Strategy following structure, or structure following strategy? In the end, culture eats it all for breakfast".</p><h3>What about soft skills and self awareness as part of formal Procurement training?</h3><p>Florian disappointingly shares that the major professional bodies are not really moving with the times yet and adopting these skills into their training syllabuses.</p><p>He also shares the story of how he wrote an article in Germany's most well-known Procurement and Supply Chain publication about these skills and how they are covered in his syllabus for the course he teaches.</p><p>Despite this being published in a popular industry magazine, it didn't result in many enquiries from the corporate world for their procurement teams to take these courses (even though the program was free-to-access!).</p><p>Is it really worth sending Procurement to their 10th negotiation training course, or would it be better to up-skill buyers on soft skills, or trading knowledge with their Sales &amp; Marketing colleagues?</p><h3>What can corporate organisations learn from elite football teams?</h3><p>Do we need to move away from seniority-driven salary structures, and the tight bands of salaries which don't differentiate much between A-players and the rest?</p><p>Should we follow football's example of breaking the bank to hire the superstars?</p><p>Procurement professionals who are twice as productive earn should earn twice as much? Probably not, but more performance-oriented formulas should play a bigger role in terms of being able to hire and retain the best talent.</p><p>When companies complain about not being able to find the best talent, it's often due to them not willing to pay the market rate to attract the best people.</p><p>What about academies? We discuss whether the "war for talent" will result in corporates adopting an academy structure, or perhaps working with academic institutions to encourage students to take internships with them. Both of these paths can enable companies to screen, nurture and attract talented individuals into their organisation in a more methodical and strategic manner.</p><h3>How does the desire for purposeful work and personal growth impact this?</h3><p>We move on from the salary discussion to the non-monetary aspects of career development and finding the right fit.</p><p>Whether this is working somewhere that offers more personal growth e.g. for a startup to get more hands-on experience across multiple different areas, or the desire to work in an organisation where you find their mission more impactful or that has a strong focus on values that are close to your heart e.g. sustainability.</p><p>Florian shares his own personal example of how he gave up a successful consulting career to go back and do his PhD and then ultimately move into an academic role.</p><h3>Advice for new graduates in the era of entry-level roles being automated?</h3><p>In summary, the focus on training procurement professionals of the future will be more conceptual work and less clerical work.</p><p>How to raise a requisition or order is no longer relevant to the modern procurement professional. Instead, they need to understand how to formulate a category strategy.</p><p>Training and courses such as Florian's curriculum reflect the reality of the modern day and future procurement function. As time goes on, new entrants to the workforce will reflect that with the skills or educational background they have when they begin their career.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/florianckleemann/" target="_blank">Connect with Florian on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're back with another Pub episode, where we dive a little bit deeper into a topic than we do in our normal podcasts and really break down a hot topic in a more informal chat format.</p><p>My guest for this one is Prof. Dr. Florian Kleemann. He's a university professor, author of four German language procurement textbooks and also a former consultant. We dive into the topic of how people are a vital factor in change management. A digital transformation project, or orchestrating the changes to make a procurement team fit for the future, are both great examples in this regard.</p><h2>Getting Your People Strategy Right for Change Management, Digital Transformation and Orchestrating the Procurement Organisation of the Future</h2><p>We kick off the discussion by me asking Florian how he sees the skill set of procurement professionals evolving as we move forward.</p><p>While on the one hand, Procurement will definitely become more robot-driven for some tasks, he sees the function becoming more of a jack-of-all-trades as we expand our remit into other areas and become more versatile as professionals. By this, he doesn't mean tactical and strategic procurement being mixed, rather the increasing professionalisation and specialisation of procurement as a profession will result in procurement professionals being involved in different areas of the business.</p><h3>Florian's 4 key areas for managing change</h3><ul><li>Digitalisation</li><li>Innovation</li><li>Resilience</li><li>Agility</li></ul><br/><p>Digitalisation should not be seen as the future of procurement in itself: it's more the enabler to help free up procurement resources to concentrate on more strategic topics.</p><p>When considering resilience, we also need to bring in the increasing importance of the sustainability discussion as part of this too.</p><p>Touching also on soft skills - selling, influence, persuasion - the type of skills that are often more associated with Sales &amp; Marketing teams, are becoming ever more important to procurement professionals too.</p><p>Procurement, as Florian argues, should be seen as a <strong>service</strong>, but not as <strong>servants</strong> to our internal stakeholders.</p><p>Taking your team on the change journey from process-driven or compliance-driven to a more agile, strategic function will require a change in the skill set but also a change in the mindset. If you're having to control and beat down your stakeholders to a large extent to keep them in check, then Florian argues that as a procurement team, you have failed to provide a viable strategy and with it, the means of easily and efficiently procuring goods and services.</p><p>Start with the most eager or most engaged stakeholders to get some quick wins, and then move on from there.</p><h3>Can Greenfield Procurement organisations outperform Mature Procurement functions?</h3><p>I make the example of how many African countries have gone from having no functioning fixed line telecommunications network to jumping a technological generation and rapidly adopting mobile phones. Indeed in Kenya, for example, mobile payments technology is more advanced and more widely adopted than in most European countries.</p><p>Could the same apply to Procurement in organisations who are starting a centrally managed procurement team from scratch?</p><p>Florian does see some opportunity here, but also argues that if the pace of change is too quick, then it is usually not aligned to the overall corporate goals.</p><p>"Strategy following structure, or structure following strategy? In the end, culture eats it all for breakfast".</p><h3>What about soft skills and self awareness as part of formal Procurement training?</h3><p>Florian disappointingly shares that the major professional bodies are not really moving with the times yet and adopting these skills into their training syllabuses.</p><p>He also shares the story of how he wrote an article in Germany's most well-known Procurement and Supply Chain publication about these skills and how they are covered in his syllabus for the course he teaches.</p><p>Despite this being published in a popular industry magazine, it didn't result in many enquiries from the corporate world for their procurement teams to take these courses (even though the program was free-to-access!).</p><p>Is it really worth sending Procurement to their 10th negotiation training course, or would it be better to up-skill buyers on soft skills, or trading knowledge with their Sales &amp; Marketing colleagues?</p><h3>What can corporate organisations learn from elite football teams?</h3><p>Do we need to move away from seniority-driven salary structures, and the tight bands of salaries which don't differentiate much between A-players and the rest?</p><p>Should we follow football's example of breaking the bank to hire the superstars?</p><p>Procurement professionals who are twice as productive earn should earn twice as much? Probably not, but more performance-oriented formulas should play a bigger role in terms of being able to hire and retain the best talent.</p><p>When companies complain about not being able to find the best talent, it's often due to them not willing to pay the market rate to attract the best people.</p><p>What about academies? We discuss whether the "war for talent" will result in corporates adopting an academy structure, or perhaps working with academic institutions to encourage students to take internships with them. Both of these paths can enable companies to screen, nurture and attract talented individuals into their organisation in a more methodical and strategic manner.</p><h3>How does the desire for purposeful work and personal growth impact this?</h3><p>We move on from the salary discussion to the non-monetary aspects of career development and finding the right fit.</p><p>Whether this is working somewhere that offers more personal growth e.g. for a startup to get more hands-on experience across multiple different areas, or the desire to work in an organisation where you find their mission more impactful or that has a strong focus on values that are close to your heart e.g. sustainability.</p><p>Florian shares his own personal example of how he gave up a successful consulting career to go back and do his PhD and then ultimately move into an academic role.</p><h3>Advice for new graduates in the era of entry-level roles being automated?</h3><p>In summary, the focus on training procurement professionals of the future will be more conceptual work and less clerical work.</p><p>How to raise a requisition or order is no longer relevant to the modern procurement professional. Instead, they need to understand how to formulate a category strategy.</p><p>Training and courses such as Florian's curriculum reflect the reality of the modern day and future procurement function. As time goes on, new entrants to the workforce will reflect that with the skills or educational background they have when they begin their career.</p><h3>Stay in touch!</h3><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/florianckleemann/" target="_blank">Connect with Florian on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a> </li><li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li><li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank">Software Finder app</a></li><li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank">Procurement Software Newsletter</a>	</li><li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li><li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bb37495f-5681-4bef-8563-e69c1bd43770</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a7bddca5-0f76-4b4f-92b2-6d2623ecb531/procuretech-procuretech-pub-florian-kleeman-s2e21.mp3" length="50588152" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI in Procurement: Opportunities and Watch-outs – Melissa Drew from IBM</title><itunes:title>AI in Procurement: Opportunities and Watch-outs – Melissa Drew from IBM</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="background-color: transparent">On this week’s episode I get to talk to a well-known industry expert and dive into a subject many of you may be confused and excited about in equal measure.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa Drew, Associate Partner at IBM is my guest to dive into the topic of use cases for AI in procurement applications. We tackle where we are, where we’re headed and what some of the opportunities and limitations could be for this technology in this space.</span>
<h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Use cases, opportunities and limitations of AI in Procurement</span></h2>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa starts off by giving a quick whistle-stop tour of her career so far, which includes 27 years in the procurement space in one form or another.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">I then begin by asking the question of whether AI and robots are about to take over our lives.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Are robots about to take over our jobs?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa gives a very important definition that AI and cognitive technologies are actually different things, and that what we commonly refer to as AI in digital procurement terms is in fact what she would define as cognitive technologies.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">The difference being, in the example she gives, that AI in driverless cars is constantly evolving and developing its behaviour as it learns from different scenarios that it is being exposed to. Whereas on the other hand, cognitive technology that’s often used in digital procurement technology is highly reliant on the human that is programming the algorithm telling the machine what it should actually do.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">AI is only as intelligent as the human programming it</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">In order for outcomes to be representative, a human has to “teach” the models. Teaching the models can only be done by collecting data. But HOW we collect the data and from which sources obviously impacts the programming that is written around how the machine interprets this.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa gives the example of Amazon’s CV screening algorithm that was unknowingly biased towards male candidates because of the way that it had been programmed based on the data it had been fed. Inadvertently, it had been shown more male applicants during its programming and as such had developed a bias towards male candidates.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">What has contributed to improvements to AI over the past 20 years?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">AI was originally used to augment human behaviour; to take things that we tactically need to do repetitively as a process and just do them faster and more accurately.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Synthesizing, cleaning and categorising complex procurement spend data used to take Melissa about 9 long weeks. Back in 2004, when she started applying AI to be leveraged for repetitive tasks in spend analysis and categorisation, it reduced this task from 9 weeks down to several hours. That’s the potential that AI has.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">As Melissa explains, what has changed over the past few years is the infrastructure that organisations have to house the data, as well as the improved ability to be able to collect and process it all.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why we still need humans to interpret and assess AI’s work</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">How do we ensure that we are collecting all of the right data? Are we using the right breadth of data. Why is AI making the decision or recommendation?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Humans still need to test the data and even then, there is the risk that they will potentially have biases because of their own preconceptions. It’s the same parallel we can draw to how reliable we as individuals perceive certain news and media outlets to be, when we consider our own political views and the assumptions we make around the media’s bias towards a certain political party or social issue, for example.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">What questions should buyers be asking procurement software suppliers to determine their AI capabilities?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Seemingly every software company is using some kind of AI, regardless of the solution they are offering. </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">The AI is being used in multiple ways: so what EXACTLY is the software vendor using AI for and to what extent is this going to enable your procurement team to spend more time and focus on the activities that drive value?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa highlights some of the key ways to determine whether the vendor is leveraging real AI to mimic how a human thinks and acts, versus whether it is just using a complex string of formulas to enable increased efficiency in performing repetitive or predictable tasks. Also the importance of where the data mapping is coming from and whether there are gaps to be able to supplement some of the gaps.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa then explains the difference between machine learning and deep learning, and expands on this by saying it takes time to build, test, feed data into and validate that AI actually works. It doesn’t just happen overnight. Ultimately, a brand new startup that claims to have world class AI should be viewed with scepticism.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">To best understand your negotiating potential and your importance to a software company in relation to their solution maturity, it’s important to get a grasp of to what extent they need your organisation’s data more than you need their solution. Asking the right questions around where they have gathered their data and to what extent it’s been tested is key to understand this relationship. </span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How will the procurement teams of the future work?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">So, depending on to what extent you want to leverage AI, this may not result in it taking everyone’s jobs, but it could certainly end up with a scenario where more junior level, repetitive task roles are eliminated. Which then begs the question of how will future procurement organisations be made up?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa and I both agree that we are at an important crossroads right now as we start to move away from being seen as a pure play cost savings function, and more of a versatile business partner.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Building relationships with fairly new functions such as Chief Data Officer and Chief Analytics Officer will be a key to ensure that procurement data is part of their roadmap and solutions enterprise-wide.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Also, the way we audit, evaluate and onboarding suppliers must become more agile if procurement teams are going to leverage the benefits of working with growth startups who are at the cutting edge of this technology, as opposed to a less innovative but “safe” established vendor.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">We also touch on the future of category management and to what extent it will still maintain its relevance within a modern procurement department, and how one would go about building a greenfield strategic procurement team from scratch in today’s world.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-drew/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="background-color: transparent">On this week’s episode I get to talk to a well-known industry expert and dive into a subject many of you may be confused and excited about in equal measure.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa Drew, Associate Partner at IBM is my guest to dive into the topic of use cases for AI in procurement applications. We tackle where we are, where we’re headed and what some of the opportunities and limitations could be for this technology in this space.</span>
<h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Use cases, opportunities and limitations of AI in Procurement</span></h2>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa starts off by giving a quick whistle-stop tour of her career so far, which includes 27 years in the procurement space in one form or another.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">I then begin by asking the question of whether AI and robots are about to take over our lives.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Are robots about to take over our jobs?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa gives a very important definition that AI and cognitive technologies are actually different things, and that what we commonly refer to as AI in digital procurement terms is in fact what she would define as cognitive technologies.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">The difference being, in the example she gives, that AI in driverless cars is constantly evolving and developing its behaviour as it learns from different scenarios that it is being exposed to. Whereas on the other hand, cognitive technology that’s often used in digital procurement technology is highly reliant on the human that is programming the algorithm telling the machine what it should actually do.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">AI is only as intelligent as the human programming it</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">In order for outcomes to be representative, a human has to “teach” the models. Teaching the models can only be done by collecting data. But HOW we collect the data and from which sources obviously impacts the programming that is written around how the machine interprets this.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa gives the example of Amazon’s CV screening algorithm that was unknowingly biased towards male candidates because of the way that it had been programmed based on the data it had been fed. Inadvertently, it had been shown more male applicants during its programming and as such had developed a bias towards male candidates.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">What has contributed to improvements to AI over the past 20 years?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">AI was originally used to augment human behaviour; to take things that we tactically need to do repetitively as a process and just do them faster and more accurately.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Synthesizing, cleaning and categorising complex procurement spend data used to take Melissa about 9 long weeks. Back in 2004, when she started applying AI to be leveraged for repetitive tasks in spend analysis and categorisation, it reduced this task from 9 weeks down to several hours. That’s the potential that AI has.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">As Melissa explains, what has changed over the past few years is the infrastructure that organisations have to house the data, as well as the improved ability to be able to collect and process it all.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Why we still need humans to interpret and assess AI’s work</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">How do we ensure that we are collecting all of the right data? Are we using the right breadth of data. Why is AI making the decision or recommendation?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Humans still need to test the data and even then, there is the risk that they will potentially have biases because of their own preconceptions. It’s the same parallel we can draw to how reliable we as individuals perceive certain news and media outlets to be, when we consider our own political views and the assumptions we make around the media’s bias towards a certain political party or social issue, for example.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">What questions should buyers be asking procurement software suppliers to determine their AI capabilities?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Seemingly every software company is using some kind of AI, regardless of the solution they are offering. </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">The AI is being used in multiple ways: so what EXACTLY is the software vendor using AI for and to what extent is this going to enable your procurement team to spend more time and focus on the activities that drive value?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa highlights some of the key ways to determine whether the vendor is leveraging real AI to mimic how a human thinks and acts, versus whether it is just using a complex string of formulas to enable increased efficiency in performing repetitive or predictable tasks. Also the importance of where the data mapping is coming from and whether there are gaps to be able to supplement some of the gaps.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa then explains the difference between machine learning and deep learning, and expands on this by saying it takes time to build, test, feed data into and validate that AI actually works. It doesn’t just happen overnight. Ultimately, a brand new startup that claims to have world class AI should be viewed with scepticism.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">To best understand your negotiating potential and your importance to a software company in relation to their solution maturity, it’s important to get a grasp of to what extent they need your organisation’s data more than you need their solution. Asking the right questions around where they have gathered their data and to what extent it’s been tested is key to understand this relationship. </span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How will the procurement teams of the future work?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">So, depending on to what extent you want to leverage AI, this may not result in it taking everyone’s jobs, but it could certainly end up with a scenario where more junior level, repetitive task roles are eliminated. Which then begs the question of how will future procurement organisations be made up?</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Melissa and I both agree that we are at an important crossroads right now as we start to move away from being seen as a pure play cost savings function, and more of a versatile business partner.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Building relationships with fairly new functions such as Chief Data Officer and Chief Analytics Officer will be a key to ensure that procurement data is part of their roadmap and solutions enterprise-wide.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Also, the way we audit, evaluate and onboarding suppliers must become more agile if procurement teams are going to leverage the benefits of working with growth startups who are at the cutting edge of this technology, as opposed to a less innovative but “safe” established vendor.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">We also touch on the future of category management and to what extent it will still maintain its relevance within a modern procurement department, and how one would go about building a greenfield strategic procurement team from scratch in today’s world.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-drew/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5004a7e1-b25c-47de-9956-31b3f3a1b3cf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/206b1c53-9a1c-4f28-8cc1-b40d9f82018a/the-procuretech-podcast-melissa-drew-s2e20.mp3" length="34643427" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Spend Analytics: Expanding a Mature Solution – Sammeli Sammalkorpi from Sievo</title><itunes:title>Spend Analytics: Expanding a Mature Solution – Sammeli Sammalkorpi from Sievo</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<span style="background-color: transparent">I’m joined today on the Procuretech Podcast by Sammeli Sammalkorpi, CEO of Sievo, one of the stalwarts of the spend analytics space. The well-known Finnish company were actually founded almost 19 years ago! </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">During this time, what started out as a simple spend analysis tool has grown to be a comprehensive best-of-breed solution for spend analytics. We discuss how this niche has matured over the years and what direction it’s headed in the future.</span>
<h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Spend Analytics: Maintaining relevance and continuously improving in a crowded market</span></h2>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Sammeli starts off by explaining how being from Lapland, his parents’ wish was always that he would become a reindeer farmer! </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Instead, he landed into software development rather than staying in his hometown. This came about through starting out as a junior analyst in a procurement consulting firm and realising quickly that there weren’t any tools out there to efficiently analyse and report on what a client’s business is spending its money on.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">In a crowded marketplace, Sammeli puts Sievo’s success down to staying on top of the latest technological trends as well as listening to and striving to satisfy their global, enterprise level client base.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Machine learning and AI is developing and evolving quickly. New technologies and more and more data is available. They have seen many well-funded competitors enter the market, and some of them fail. Even though Sievo have never received any VC money, they have gradually grown to 220 employees in their two bases in Helsinki and Chicago. </span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How has Sievo grown despite the onslaught of competitors?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">There are 3 factors Sammeli gives as the main drivers behind their continued success:</span>
<ol>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Procurement leaders who change companies and then lobby to introduce Sievo’s software in their new company because they have seen the value first hand.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The data they have been able to gather and, with their clients’ permission, use it to provide benefits and insights to their whole client base to improve analytics and predictive trends. Big data enables the classification process to be more efficient and accurate, due to the learnings and previous spend which has been analysed and classified through the system. The most obvious example of this is the ability to recognise duplicate vendors e.g. IBM, I.B.M. and International Business Machines as being the same organisation</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Scale: being able to invest more into software development and marketing &amp; sales as they have become a bigger company than most of their competitors.</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging their data assets to add to the CX</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Drilling down on this piece, Sammeli mentions three areas where they have been ableto improve customer experience through aggregating data:</span>
<ol>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Incorporating client modification or customisation requests into the general product offering to bolster the capabilities of the tool.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The aggregate intelligence gained from each spend classification / normalisation of supplier data to be able to have an ever-growing database of parent and child companies in the supply base.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The ability to use this data lake to drive benefits across their whole client base through upgrades, feedback, insights and market intelligence.</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Are new acquisitions coming from customers ditching the suites or greenfield digitisation projects?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Most of their clients typically have had some kind of approach to spend analytics in the past. There doesn’t seem to be a distinct split of whether that’s from an underwhelming experience with one of the major suites, or having tried to natively use a tool such as BI or Tableau in-house without seeing the anticipated success.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">There is a growing acceptance that even those companies who are running suites still need to aggregate their data in one place for a single source of truth, at least for large, enterprise level companies. The assumption of a few years ago that a suite could fulfill all of a corporation’s digital procurement needs is now pretty much acknowledged to simply not be accurate. This will become even more pronounced as the technology ecosystem, capabilities and reach of procuretech grows and expands.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Going from descriptive to predictive analytics</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">The world is becoming more complex and volatile, as we have seen from COVID and the Suez Canal supply chain crisis. A procurement function will never be able to predict ALL of these events, but being prepared for them and being able to figure out the consequences from such an event quickly and efficiently is key. </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Predictive analytics enables a procurement professional to be able to enact and implement a plan B much faster than an organisation that doesn’t have this capability.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">We discuss the “if-this-then-that” ability to take spend analytics data in tandem with any other best-of-breed risk management technology to be able to visualise potential scenarios and solutions to them before they actually happen.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Procurement’s journey from savings delivery to value driver</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">We discuss the trend of how procurement is shifting from a cost reduction department, to be seen as a function that can drive wider value. This is also affecting relationships with Finance, with the acknowledgement that value and cost avoidance can’t be measured as objectively as P&amp;L-visible hard savings. Sammeli describes it as being “unhealthy” that there is only one rule from Finance around how savings are reported.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Transitioning from “talk” to “action” on ESG topics</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Building on existing collaborations with risk management, supplier diversity and sustainability providers, Sievo has also just launched a new solution based on CO2 analytics. This acknowledges that companies who are seeking to become CO2 neutral must spend time and resources into understanding the carbon footprint of their supply chain because that’s where most of their opportunity is hidden.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sammeli-sammalkorpi-96782/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Sammeli on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Download Sievo’s </span><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://hub.sievo.com/en-us/resources/procurement-loves-data" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Loves Data ebook</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="background-color: transparent">I’m joined today on the Procuretech Podcast by Sammeli Sammalkorpi, CEO of Sievo, one of the stalwarts of the spend analytics space. The well-known Finnish company were actually founded almost 19 years ago! </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">During this time, what started out as a simple spend analysis tool has grown to be a comprehensive best-of-breed solution for spend analytics. We discuss how this niche has matured over the years and what direction it’s headed in the future.</span>
<h2><span style="background-color: transparent">Spend Analytics: Maintaining relevance and continuously improving in a crowded market</span></h2>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Sammeli starts off by explaining how being from Lapland, his parents’ wish was always that he would become a reindeer farmer! </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Instead, he landed into software development rather than staying in his hometown. This came about through starting out as a junior analyst in a procurement consulting firm and realising quickly that there weren’t any tools out there to efficiently analyse and report on what a client’s business is spending its money on.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">In a crowded marketplace, Sammeli puts Sievo’s success down to staying on top of the latest technological trends as well as listening to and striving to satisfy their global, enterprise level client base.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Machine learning and AI is developing and evolving quickly. New technologies and more and more data is available. They have seen many well-funded competitors enter the market, and some of them fail. Even though Sievo have never received any VC money, they have gradually grown to 220 employees in their two bases in Helsinki and Chicago. </span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">How has Sievo grown despite the onslaught of competitors?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">There are 3 factors Sammeli gives as the main drivers behind their continued success:</span>
<ol>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Procurement leaders who change companies and then lobby to introduce Sievo’s software in their new company because they have seen the value first hand.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The data they have been able to gather and, with their clients’ permission, use it to provide benefits and insights to their whole client base to improve analytics and predictive trends. Big data enables the classification process to be more efficient and accurate, due to the learnings and previous spend which has been analysed and classified through the system. The most obvious example of this is the ability to recognise duplicate vendors e.g. IBM, I.B.M. and International Business Machines as being the same organisation</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Scale: being able to invest more into software development and marketing &amp; sales as they have become a bigger company than most of their competitors.</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Leveraging their data assets to add to the CX</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Drilling down on this piece, Sammeli mentions three areas where they have been ableto improve customer experience through aggregating data:</span>
<ol>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Incorporating client modification or customisation requests into the general product offering to bolster the capabilities of the tool.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The aggregate intelligence gained from each spend classification / normalisation of supplier data to be able to have an ever-growing database of parent and child companies in the supply base.</span></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">The ability to use this data lake to drive benefits across their whole client base through upgrades, feedback, insights and market intelligence.</span></li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Are new acquisitions coming from customers ditching the suites or greenfield digitisation projects?</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Most of their clients typically have had some kind of approach to spend analytics in the past. There doesn’t seem to be a distinct split of whether that’s from an underwhelming experience with one of the major suites, or having tried to natively use a tool such as BI or Tableau in-house without seeing the anticipated success.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">There is a growing acceptance that even those companies who are running suites still need to aggregate their data in one place for a single source of truth, at least for large, enterprise level companies. The assumption of a few years ago that a suite could fulfill all of a corporation’s digital procurement needs is now pretty much acknowledged to simply not be accurate. This will become even more pronounced as the technology ecosystem, capabilities and reach of procuretech grows and expands.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Going from descriptive to predictive analytics</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">The world is becoming more complex and volatile, as we have seen from COVID and the Suez Canal supply chain crisis. A procurement function will never be able to predict ALL of these events, but being prepared for them and being able to figure out the consequences from such an event quickly and efficiently is key. </span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">Predictive analytics enables a procurement professional to be able to enact and implement a plan B much faster than an organisation that doesn’t have this capability.</span>

<span style="background-color: transparent">We discuss the “if-this-then-that” ability to take spend analytics data in tandem with any other best-of-breed risk management technology to be able to visualise potential scenarios and solutions to them before they actually happen.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Procurement’s journey from savings delivery to value driver</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">We discuss the trend of how procurement is shifting from a cost reduction department, to be seen as a function that can drive wider value. This is also affecting relationships with Finance, with the acknowledgement that value and cost avoidance can’t be measured as objectively as P&amp;L-visible hard savings. Sammeli describes it as being “unhealthy” that there is only one rule from Finance around how savings are reported.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Transitioning from “talk” to “action” on ESG topics</span></h3>
<span style="background-color: transparent">Building on existing collaborations with risk management, supplier diversity and sustainability providers, Sievo has also just launched a new solution based on CO2 analytics. This acknowledges that companies who are seeking to become CO2 neutral must spend time and resources into understanding the carbon footprint of their supply chain because that’s where most of their opportunity is hidden.</span>
<h3><span style="background-color: transparent">Stay in Touch!</span></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sammeli-sammalkorpi-96782/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Sammeli on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><span style="background-color: transparent">Download Sievo’s </span><a style="background-color: transparent" href="https://hub.sievo.com/en-us/resources/procurement-loves-data" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Loves Data ebook</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">71ee79f9-a22f-4ba6-8a1a-31225e3c5d45</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/651928de-c729-4008-b808-29bcfd73f203/procuretech-sammeli-sammelk-rpi-sievo-s2e19.mp3" length="28614366" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Case Study – Børge Langedal from Ignite Procurement &amp; Arndt Romer from SEG Automotive</title><itunes:title>Case Study – Børge Langedal from Ignite Procurement &amp; Arndt Romer from SEG Automotive</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week on the podcast I’m joined by two guests, because we’re actually going to be talking about a customer success story on the show.

Børge Langedal, Co-Founder and CRO of Norwegian spend analytics, vendor and category management tool Ignite Procurement joins me together with Arndt Romer from their German customer SEG Automotive.

We dive into how and why SEG Automotive chose Ignite as their digital solution and how they’ve seen benefits since its implementation.
<h2>Building a digital strategy with the right partner after a divestiture</h2>
SEG Automotive is best described as a large medium-sized business focusing predominantly on automotive products.

With 7,000 employees across 14 locations and annual turnover of €1.5 billion (approx. $1.9 billion). Based in Stuttgart, Germany, they were spun off from Bosch in early 2018 and therefore had to develop their own in-house systems as part of the divestment.

Ignite Procurement is based in Oslo, founded in 2016 by an ex-BCG team and has since grown to 50 employees. It’s a spend management solution to make strategic procurement easy, with data management and procurement analytics as the core offering.

Bosch had a well developed system landscape which essentially SEG would no longer have had access to after the carve-out and them becoming an independent company.

This led to the need to find and develop their own digital procurement and spend management strategy to enable them to have access to good, clean data without being dependent on an ERP system and Excel spreadsheets.

Bosch had a central procurement team and a lot of the main team at Bosch remained there, which resulted in the need to hire and onboard a lot of new team members when SEG was carved out from Bosch. The transition from following the processes and internal controls of a global corporation to becoming a leaner and more agile mid-market business necessitated the need to improve their reporting and decision-making landscape.
<h3>How did SEG arrive at the decision to select Ignite Procurement?</h3>
Arndt mentions that it was a three-prong strategy.

They were aware of some of the more well-known tools and approached them to understand what they could offer. They also considered out-of-the-box solutions such as Power BI, as well as exploring the possibility to develop some in-house solutions. On top of this, they had a digitalisation team internally who was out there going to different trade fairs, researching niche / best-of-breed solutions on the internet to discover tools that were not already known to the business. It was at one of these trade fairs shortly before COVID hit that they were introduced to Ignite.

Bringing these three approached together required a scorecard to allow different stakeholders to evaluate the capabilities of each of the different solutions. This enabled them to move forward to pilot phase with shortlisted vendors, at which point, Arndt says it became obvious that Ignite was clearly the best solution for what they were looking for.
<h3>How did Ignite Procurement go about assessing and evaluating SEG Automotive’s needs vs. their offering?</h3>
First and foremost is understanding whether they can indeed solve their challenges and meet their requirements. Trying to be everything to everyone ultimately is a road to disaster!

Ignite’s team quickly realised that making data more accessible was a key customer requirement and also a key feature of their software, and as such they determined that SEG would be a very good match in terms of system capabilities vs. what they saw as must-haves from a customer perspective.

Børge also says that they were quickly impressed with the SEG Automotive procurement and digitalisation team’s rigorous structures and processes, which went alongside the desire to digitise and improve their operations.
<h3>Why didn’t SEG Automotive choose to go with an established Suite?</h3>
As a EUR 1.5 billion company, SEG would definitely have been within the orbit of the major, established suite providers. I ask Arndt why they didn’t take the easy / lazy option of just choosing whatever enterprise procurement suite Bosch had been using and instead opted to go through this process.

He mentions that having a divestiture is a catalyst for driving change and striving to make things leaner, faster and better. Lots of new employees, a fresh breath of life into the company and also starting with a blank slate. It was not a foregone conclusion at the beginning that they would go with a best-of-breed solution. This decision came over time as they started to understand the market better, with the capabilities and limitations of other solutions that are out there.

Flexibility to develop and add / customise features, as well as the speed of implementation were also cited as being contributing factors around the final decision to go with Ignite rather than an enterprise procurement suite. Ultimately, agility and the ability to grow and expand as partners was a key factor.
<h3>Straddling the gap between best-of-breed and suite capabilities</h3>
I ask Børge about Ignite’s solution kind of sitting between a classic best-of-breed application but not being as comprehensive (or expensive!) as a suite. Is this the direction of travel and will we see this as a trend going forward? His answer is that they see themselves as a best-of-breed solution around data analytics and spend management, but with additional features where they have the expertise to complement what procurement teams typically need to go hand-in-hand with these requirements e.g. contact management, supplier management and assessments alongside. Asking themselves where do they have synergies to complement their existing functionality is a key building block of their development strategy.

Utilising modern APIs to connect different best-of-breed solutions together is becoming more commonplace and is enabling companies to not just have one solution but to connect multiple best-of-breed providers together to accomplish everything they need to do. Børge does see more of a trend towards mini-suites and best-of-breed solutions expanding their offering to be more versatile and offer more than just one single solution. Nonetheless, at the same time, there is always a limit to just how many solutions can be joined together.
<h3>How has Ignite helped SEG with regards to business planning and forecasting?</h3>
<ol>
 	<li>There are fewer requests to run special, customised reports which has freed up controlling resources.</li>
 	<li>Global meetings within the procurement community are possible without lots of slide preparation and reworking of data. If nobody trusts the figures, then nobody will use a digital spend analytics solution. Getting to this point has been key with building trust among users when it comes to using the application.</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3>Lessons learned by Ignite from the implementation with SEG</h3>
An implementation with a big, strategic client has been hugely beneficial to Ignite in terms of identifying numerous future joing initiatives and a strong continuous improvement culture.

The input from SEG has been a huge asset in helping with their product development.

Automatic integration of commodity prices with their spend data

Negotiation strategy
<h3>Stay in Touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.igniteprocurement.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ignite Procurement website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/b%C3%B8rge-langedal-4ab84b7a/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Børge on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arndt-romer-a2178129/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Arndt on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week on the podcast I’m joined by two guests, because we’re actually going to be talking about a customer success story on the show.

Børge Langedal, Co-Founder and CRO of Norwegian spend analytics, vendor and category management tool Ignite Procurement joins me together with Arndt Romer from their German customer SEG Automotive.

We dive into how and why SEG Automotive chose Ignite as their digital solution and how they’ve seen benefits since its implementation.
<h2>Building a digital strategy with the right partner after a divestiture</h2>
SEG Automotive is best described as a large medium-sized business focusing predominantly on automotive products.

With 7,000 employees across 14 locations and annual turnover of €1.5 billion (approx. $1.9 billion). Based in Stuttgart, Germany, they were spun off from Bosch in early 2018 and therefore had to develop their own in-house systems as part of the divestment.

Ignite Procurement is based in Oslo, founded in 2016 by an ex-BCG team and has since grown to 50 employees. It’s a spend management solution to make strategic procurement easy, with data management and procurement analytics as the core offering.

Bosch had a well developed system landscape which essentially SEG would no longer have had access to after the carve-out and them becoming an independent company.

This led to the need to find and develop their own digital procurement and spend management strategy to enable them to have access to good, clean data without being dependent on an ERP system and Excel spreadsheets.

Bosch had a central procurement team and a lot of the main team at Bosch remained there, which resulted in the need to hire and onboard a lot of new team members when SEG was carved out from Bosch. The transition from following the processes and internal controls of a global corporation to becoming a leaner and more agile mid-market business necessitated the need to improve their reporting and decision-making landscape.
<h3>How did SEG arrive at the decision to select Ignite Procurement?</h3>
Arndt mentions that it was a three-prong strategy.

They were aware of some of the more well-known tools and approached them to understand what they could offer. They also considered out-of-the-box solutions such as Power BI, as well as exploring the possibility to develop some in-house solutions. On top of this, they had a digitalisation team internally who was out there going to different trade fairs, researching niche / best-of-breed solutions on the internet to discover tools that were not already known to the business. It was at one of these trade fairs shortly before COVID hit that they were introduced to Ignite.

Bringing these three approached together required a scorecard to allow different stakeholders to evaluate the capabilities of each of the different solutions. This enabled them to move forward to pilot phase with shortlisted vendors, at which point, Arndt says it became obvious that Ignite was clearly the best solution for what they were looking for.
<h3>How did Ignite Procurement go about assessing and evaluating SEG Automotive’s needs vs. their offering?</h3>
First and foremost is understanding whether they can indeed solve their challenges and meet their requirements. Trying to be everything to everyone ultimately is a road to disaster!

Ignite’s team quickly realised that making data more accessible was a key customer requirement and also a key feature of their software, and as such they determined that SEG would be a very good match in terms of system capabilities vs. what they saw as must-haves from a customer perspective.

Børge also says that they were quickly impressed with the SEG Automotive procurement and digitalisation team’s rigorous structures and processes, which went alongside the desire to digitise and improve their operations.
<h3>Why didn’t SEG Automotive choose to go with an established Suite?</h3>
As a EUR 1.5 billion company, SEG would definitely have been within the orbit of the major, established suite providers. I ask Arndt why they didn’t take the easy / lazy option of just choosing whatever enterprise procurement suite Bosch had been using and instead opted to go through this process.

He mentions that having a divestiture is a catalyst for driving change and striving to make things leaner, faster and better. Lots of new employees, a fresh breath of life into the company and also starting with a blank slate. It was not a foregone conclusion at the beginning that they would go with a best-of-breed solution. This decision came over time as they started to understand the market better, with the capabilities and limitations of other solutions that are out there.

Flexibility to develop and add / customise features, as well as the speed of implementation were also cited as being contributing factors around the final decision to go with Ignite rather than an enterprise procurement suite. Ultimately, agility and the ability to grow and expand as partners was a key factor.
<h3>Straddling the gap between best-of-breed and suite capabilities</h3>
I ask Børge about Ignite’s solution kind of sitting between a classic best-of-breed application but not being as comprehensive (or expensive!) as a suite. Is this the direction of travel and will we see this as a trend going forward? His answer is that they see themselves as a best-of-breed solution around data analytics and spend management, but with additional features where they have the expertise to complement what procurement teams typically need to go hand-in-hand with these requirements e.g. contact management, supplier management and assessments alongside. Asking themselves where do they have synergies to complement their existing functionality is a key building block of their development strategy.

Utilising modern APIs to connect different best-of-breed solutions together is becoming more commonplace and is enabling companies to not just have one solution but to connect multiple best-of-breed providers together to accomplish everything they need to do. Børge does see more of a trend towards mini-suites and best-of-breed solutions expanding their offering to be more versatile and offer more than just one single solution. Nonetheless, at the same time, there is always a limit to just how many solutions can be joined together.
<h3>How has Ignite helped SEG with regards to business planning and forecasting?</h3>
<ol>
 	<li>There are fewer requests to run special, customised reports which has freed up controlling resources.</li>
 	<li>Global meetings within the procurement community are possible without lots of slide preparation and reworking of data. If nobody trusts the figures, then nobody will use a digital spend analytics solution. Getting to this point has been key with building trust among users when it comes to using the application.</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3>Lessons learned by Ignite from the implementation with SEG</h3>
An implementation with a big, strategic client has been hugely beneficial to Ignite in terms of identifying numerous future joing initiatives and a strong continuous improvement culture.

The input from SEG has been a huge asset in helping with their product development.

Automatic integration of commodity prices with their spend data

Negotiation strategy
<h3>Stay in Touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.igniteprocurement.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ignite Procurement website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/b%C3%B8rge-langedal-4ab84b7a/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Børge on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arndt-romer-a2178129/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Arndt on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f4cf2bcf-79e2-4db9-975f-7e64385e05d2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/025b2ae5-a48e-4a64-83ca-bcb61948080f/procuretech-b-rge-langedal-ignite-procurementguest-s2e18.mp3" length="37401957" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Simple, Affordable Purchasing Software for SMEs – Adam Thomas from oboloo</title><itunes:title>Simple, Affordable Purchasing Software for SMEs – Adam Thomas from oboloo</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[How big does a business need to be before they can afford procurement software? And how many features does the software need to have to still enable it to deliver value?

My guest today is Adam Thomas from a small but growing startup oboloo. Based in London, the company is focused on delivering a practical source-to-contract software solution to small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs).
<h2><strong>Providing simple, affordable and easy-to-use procurement software to SMEs: Adam Thomas from oboloo</strong></h2>
The first question we tackle is what is their definition of an SME, because everyone defines the term somewhat differently.

Oboloo sees their typical customer base as being companies with an annual turnover between £5 million and £100 million. They identified this space because typically none of the established procuretechs who do what oboloo does are very active in this segment of the market.

The software itself is essentially a simple source-to-contract (S2C) platform and has 4 core modules:
<ul>
 	<li>E-sourcing</li>
 	<li>Contract Management</li>
 	<li>Supplier Management</li>
 	<li>Savings Reporting</li>
</ul><br/>
Adam explains that they are seeking to tackle the more strategic aspects of sourcing and procurement rather than the transactional P2P space. The value proposition being through time saved as a result of digitisation, as well as the value identified through the e-sourcing module and being able to store this data centrally for future reference.

Leveraging the data - i.e. performing a spend analysis - from their P2P transactions (which could be integrated with oboloo) can then drive the initiatives that can be conducted through the oboloo platform.
<h3>What about SMEs and startups without a dedicated procurement team?</h3>
Adam explains the importance of consistency when managing external vendor spend, whether that is on spreadsheets or shared drives. As a company grows, these processes should grow with it.

So, regardless of whether a company has a dedicated buyer, the procurement process itself requires a more robust solution to be able to store data in a single, easy-to-use repository. Sending out simple RFQs and uploading a contract into a database isn’t rocket science at the end of the day, and employees can still use the system even if they’re not procurement professionals.
<h3>Where is oboloo seeing the most interest in the market?</h3>
It tends to be less about traditional, established SMEs vs. growing startups and more about the modules themselves. Adam mentions that there is a lot of demand and interest for their contract management module right now, whereas the e-sourcing and supplier management functions are not as sought after.
<h3>If they just want contract management, why not buy a specialist tool?</h3>
Simplicity is the easy answer.

A lot of businesses at their core just want to have a simple database. While oboloo does have additional functionality, the objective is to ensure that the customer can upload a contract into their system with the least amount of hassle.

This increases adoption and reduces the “desk drawer” problem in many organisations, where contracts actually registered in the database are just the tip of the iceberg.
<h3>How did they find the sweet spot between price and features?</h3>
Having all of the core functions and features that an SME requires to run their business was the goal. Does it have auction functionality, for example? No, but then practically speaking, an SME customer can go out and find a separate solution for this. The likelihood is that this would be a very infrequent requirement.

Ultimately, going back to basics, the objectives Adam states are:
<ul>
 	<li>Process &amp; outcome</li>
 	<li>Budget</li>
 	<li>People</li>
</ul><br/>
If the employees don’t accept, adopt and use the software, then as an end goal of digitally transforming your business, you have failed to a large extent.

It’s more difficult from a design concept to make things simple, than it is to make something complicated. Enabling everyone to use the system without necessarily realising that they are “doing procurement” is their goal!
<h3>Adam’s 3 main advantages to SMEs to use a procurement platform</h3>
I couldn’t have said it any better!
<ul>
 	<li>You spend a lot of money on marketing, so protect that revenue and don’t let it seep out through not managing your purchases</li>
 	<li>Help promote your values and work with suppliers who share those same values</li>
 	<li>Increasing the number of touch points you have with your suppliers can help drive broader collaboration on things like innovation</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>*Small correction requested by oboloo</h3>
oboloo’s Charities programme offers charities and non-profit organisations a discount off the Standard oboloo software subscription price. The discount may vary between countries.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-thomas-36033016/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Adam on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Link to the <a href="https://oboloo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">oboloo website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[How big does a business need to be before they can afford procurement software? And how many features does the software need to have to still enable it to deliver value?

My guest today is Adam Thomas from a small but growing startup oboloo. Based in London, the company is focused on delivering a practical source-to-contract software solution to small and medium-sized businesses (SMEs).
<h2><strong>Providing simple, affordable and easy-to-use procurement software to SMEs: Adam Thomas from oboloo</strong></h2>
The first question we tackle is what is their definition of an SME, because everyone defines the term somewhat differently.

Oboloo sees their typical customer base as being companies with an annual turnover between £5 million and £100 million. They identified this space because typically none of the established procuretechs who do what oboloo does are very active in this segment of the market.

The software itself is essentially a simple source-to-contract (S2C) platform and has 4 core modules:
<ul>
 	<li>E-sourcing</li>
 	<li>Contract Management</li>
 	<li>Supplier Management</li>
 	<li>Savings Reporting</li>
</ul><br/>
Adam explains that they are seeking to tackle the more strategic aspects of sourcing and procurement rather than the transactional P2P space. The value proposition being through time saved as a result of digitisation, as well as the value identified through the e-sourcing module and being able to store this data centrally for future reference.

Leveraging the data - i.e. performing a spend analysis - from their P2P transactions (which could be integrated with oboloo) can then drive the initiatives that can be conducted through the oboloo platform.
<h3>What about SMEs and startups without a dedicated procurement team?</h3>
Adam explains the importance of consistency when managing external vendor spend, whether that is on spreadsheets or shared drives. As a company grows, these processes should grow with it.

So, regardless of whether a company has a dedicated buyer, the procurement process itself requires a more robust solution to be able to store data in a single, easy-to-use repository. Sending out simple RFQs and uploading a contract into a database isn’t rocket science at the end of the day, and employees can still use the system even if they’re not procurement professionals.
<h3>Where is oboloo seeing the most interest in the market?</h3>
It tends to be less about traditional, established SMEs vs. growing startups and more about the modules themselves. Adam mentions that there is a lot of demand and interest for their contract management module right now, whereas the e-sourcing and supplier management functions are not as sought after.
<h3>If they just want contract management, why not buy a specialist tool?</h3>
Simplicity is the easy answer.

A lot of businesses at their core just want to have a simple database. While oboloo does have additional functionality, the objective is to ensure that the customer can upload a contract into their system with the least amount of hassle.

This increases adoption and reduces the “desk drawer” problem in many organisations, where contracts actually registered in the database are just the tip of the iceberg.
<h3>How did they find the sweet spot between price and features?</h3>
Having all of the core functions and features that an SME requires to run their business was the goal. Does it have auction functionality, for example? No, but then practically speaking, an SME customer can go out and find a separate solution for this. The likelihood is that this would be a very infrequent requirement.

Ultimately, going back to basics, the objectives Adam states are:
<ul>
 	<li>Process &amp; outcome</li>
 	<li>Budget</li>
 	<li>People</li>
</ul><br/>
If the employees don’t accept, adopt and use the software, then as an end goal of digitally transforming your business, you have failed to a large extent.

It’s more difficult from a design concept to make things simple, than it is to make something complicated. Enabling everyone to use the system without necessarily realising that they are “doing procurement” is their goal!
<h3>Adam’s 3 main advantages to SMEs to use a procurement platform</h3>
I couldn’t have said it any better!
<ul>
 	<li>You spend a lot of money on marketing, so protect that revenue and don’t let it seep out through not managing your purchases</li>
 	<li>Help promote your values and work with suppliers who share those same values</li>
 	<li>Increasing the number of touch points you have with your suppliers can help drive broader collaboration on things like innovation</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>*Small correction requested by oboloo</h3>
oboloo’s Charities programme offers charities and non-profit organisations a discount off the Standard oboloo software subscription price. The discount may vary between countries.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-thomas-36033016/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Adam on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Link to the <a href="https://oboloo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">oboloo website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ab735e9e-f430-4849-9144-fc47a96195d7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/83fe9ed6-4dee-4f60-ab4e-6e2c7cceaa40/the-procuretech-podcast-adam-thomas-oboloo-s2e17.mp3" length="22820615" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Easy Vendor Onboarding and Management – Nick Verkroost from OCG Software</title><itunes:title>Easy Vendor Onboarding and Management – Nick Verkroost from OCG Software</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Some of the irritations that procurement professionals face in their daily work are very easily avoidable.

With a bit of thought and the right software platform, a lot of busywork and unnecessary admin can be eliminated or simplified. One such example is the vendor intake process.

My guest this week is Nick Verkroost, COO of vendor onboarding and master data management solution OCG Software, about keeping things simple and the hidden value in robust vendor master data.
<h2><strong>Eliminating admin hassle and master data as the new gold: Nick Verkroost from OCG Software</strong></h2>
Nick explains that OCG was borne out of a previous business that routed office supplies to the lowest cost vendor.

I walk through some of my personal frustrations from the corporate world of how inefficient the vendor onboarding process is, through a mix of poor communication, excessive compliance requirements, vendors not following the process right the way through to internal routing of approval workflows being broken.

Onboarding a supplier should take a day. In reality, many corporate procurement teams tear their hair out with inefficient, Excel-based processes that take weeks to add new vendors into their system.
<h3>So, how do we improve this?</h3>
"Don't worry, we'll find a way around procurement".

The age-old tale told by stakeholders to their suppliers because of the painful vendor addition process that takes far too long.

Nick describes the desired end state as:

"We need to create a mechanism by which you as a customer and me as a supplier can exchange master data in a very seamless and fluid manner; highly secure, fully auditable but also with a process which we've all understood fully aligns with how you want to onboard a supplier into your organisation".

Each individual piece of tech has the requirement to onboard or input supplier data. Be it ERP systems, e-sourcing tools, P2P software or risk management solutions.

None of them are harmonised. Each of them requires different attributes of vendor data to enable them to function. But none require a uniform, comprehensive set of criteria which fulfil an organisation's compliance and vendor due diligence checks, as well as the data required in order to pay invoices and transact with the supplier day-to-day.
<h3>Does OCG target SMEs with no vendor management tools, or act as an aggregator enterprises with a complex tech stack?</h3>
Nick explains that they started their journey as a partnership with two Fortune 500 companies who had big, digital procurement suites which weren't solving this issue effectively.

However, where they've seen the most success in terms of evolving customer acquisition trends and where they're focusing most of their marketing efforts nowadays is with SMEs and the mid-market. This market segment generally is more dependent on Excel-based data and sees the bigger payback in relative terms.

Being able to give these types of businesses the ability to see a more holistic view in one single source of truth when it comes to due diligence documents on risk and CSR, on top of just pricing and contractual terms, has a huge invisible value vs. this data being stuck in silos.
<h3>What issues arise if vendor master data or onboarding due diligence is inaccurate or incomplete?</h3>
Bad data can result in a lot of poor decisions or outcomes further downstream. The simple truth is that the quality of master data is terrible in most organisations.

The pandemic, and the ensuing crisis management, laid bare the gaps that exist in a lot of vendor master data. Something as simple as missing email addresses and incorrect phone numbers meant that it was impossible to contact suppliers quickly and en masse to manage an emergency situation.

Poor master data can also lead to:
<ul>
 	<li>Inaccurate spend analysis due to duplicates</li>
 	<li>Payment to the wrong bank account</li>
 	<li>Risk of corporate scandals if the right due diligence is not followed during the vendor onboarding process</li>
 	<li>Production stoppages due to suppliers not being paid on time or not receiving POs through the correct channels</li>
</ul><br/>
Dealing with duplication

We all have a role in fixing duplication. Technology cannot fix it automatically.

Technology can automatically flag where there is duplication, but it requires a human to make the decision and fix the problem. This is best done through people and processes within an organisation, who ultimately have to go about cleaning up the data.

What is the end user trying to do? Analyse spend? Or to understand the obligations of each legal entity of a specific vendor? This will drive how systems handle certain aspects of duplication.
<h3>How can you manage variations in onboarding requirements, based on level of supplier risk?</h3>
Getting to the right balance between doing the right due diligence where it's necessary versus following common sense where it's not is one of the key features of being successful in leveraging technology in tandem with the learned knowledge of the humans who program it.

The way that the system is configured by a customer, based on their individual requirements, is key. The groundwork during the setup enables it to define the right onboarding pathway for that vendor to be routed through. This ensures that the appropriate risk and due diligence procedure is followed, but without every supplier being subjected to overkill during the intake process.
<h3>Ensuring the system maintains relevance</h3>
The information exchange between buyer and supplier has to be a two-way relationship. It can't just be a process that feels like the "compliance police".

At the same time, it's the duty of the buyers and AP to ensure that suppliers actually update their data via the vendor platform rather than sending emails to specific personnel within an organisation. Without this, it risks becoming just another under utilised piece of software.

By empowering the supplier to be proactive and update their vendor information i.e. they get paid faster and more easily.

Enabling the supplier to also upload other information e.g. marketing information, innovation ideas, can also be an intuitive way to develop the supplier / customer relationship through the platform and ensure that there is a carrot for the vendor to maintain an active presence on the portal.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>OCG Software website</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickverkroost/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nick on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Some of the irritations that procurement professionals face in their daily work are very easily avoidable.

With a bit of thought and the right software platform, a lot of busywork and unnecessary admin can be eliminated or simplified. One such example is the vendor intake process.

My guest this week is Nick Verkroost, COO of vendor onboarding and master data management solution OCG Software, about keeping things simple and the hidden value in robust vendor master data.
<h2><strong>Eliminating admin hassle and master data as the new gold: Nick Verkroost from OCG Software</strong></h2>
Nick explains that OCG was borne out of a previous business that routed office supplies to the lowest cost vendor.

I walk through some of my personal frustrations from the corporate world of how inefficient the vendor onboarding process is, through a mix of poor communication, excessive compliance requirements, vendors not following the process right the way through to internal routing of approval workflows being broken.

Onboarding a supplier should take a day. In reality, many corporate procurement teams tear their hair out with inefficient, Excel-based processes that take weeks to add new vendors into their system.
<h3>So, how do we improve this?</h3>
"Don't worry, we'll find a way around procurement".

The age-old tale told by stakeholders to their suppliers because of the painful vendor addition process that takes far too long.

Nick describes the desired end state as:

"We need to create a mechanism by which you as a customer and me as a supplier can exchange master data in a very seamless and fluid manner; highly secure, fully auditable but also with a process which we've all understood fully aligns with how you want to onboard a supplier into your organisation".

Each individual piece of tech has the requirement to onboard or input supplier data. Be it ERP systems, e-sourcing tools, P2P software or risk management solutions.

None of them are harmonised. Each of them requires different attributes of vendor data to enable them to function. But none require a uniform, comprehensive set of criteria which fulfil an organisation's compliance and vendor due diligence checks, as well as the data required in order to pay invoices and transact with the supplier day-to-day.
<h3>Does OCG target SMEs with no vendor management tools, or act as an aggregator enterprises with a complex tech stack?</h3>
Nick explains that they started their journey as a partnership with two Fortune 500 companies who had big, digital procurement suites which weren't solving this issue effectively.

However, where they've seen the most success in terms of evolving customer acquisition trends and where they're focusing most of their marketing efforts nowadays is with SMEs and the mid-market. This market segment generally is more dependent on Excel-based data and sees the bigger payback in relative terms.

Being able to give these types of businesses the ability to see a more holistic view in one single source of truth when it comes to due diligence documents on risk and CSR, on top of just pricing and contractual terms, has a huge invisible value vs. this data being stuck in silos.
<h3>What issues arise if vendor master data or onboarding due diligence is inaccurate or incomplete?</h3>
Bad data can result in a lot of poor decisions or outcomes further downstream. The simple truth is that the quality of master data is terrible in most organisations.

The pandemic, and the ensuing crisis management, laid bare the gaps that exist in a lot of vendor master data. Something as simple as missing email addresses and incorrect phone numbers meant that it was impossible to contact suppliers quickly and en masse to manage an emergency situation.

Poor master data can also lead to:
<ul>
 	<li>Inaccurate spend analysis due to duplicates</li>
 	<li>Payment to the wrong bank account</li>
 	<li>Risk of corporate scandals if the right due diligence is not followed during the vendor onboarding process</li>
 	<li>Production stoppages due to suppliers not being paid on time or not receiving POs through the correct channels</li>
</ul><br/>
Dealing with duplication

We all have a role in fixing duplication. Technology cannot fix it automatically.

Technology can automatically flag where there is duplication, but it requires a human to make the decision and fix the problem. This is best done through people and processes within an organisation, who ultimately have to go about cleaning up the data.

What is the end user trying to do? Analyse spend? Or to understand the obligations of each legal entity of a specific vendor? This will drive how systems handle certain aspects of duplication.
<h3>How can you manage variations in onboarding requirements, based on level of supplier risk?</h3>
Getting to the right balance between doing the right due diligence where it's necessary versus following common sense where it's not is one of the key features of being successful in leveraging technology in tandem with the learned knowledge of the humans who program it.

The way that the system is configured by a customer, based on their individual requirements, is key. The groundwork during the setup enables it to define the right onboarding pathway for that vendor to be routed through. This ensures that the appropriate risk and due diligence procedure is followed, but without every supplier being subjected to overkill during the intake process.
<h3>Ensuring the system maintains relevance</h3>
The information exchange between buyer and supplier has to be a two-way relationship. It can't just be a process that feels like the "compliance police".

At the same time, it's the duty of the buyers and AP to ensure that suppliers actually update their data via the vendor platform rather than sending emails to specific personnel within an organisation. Without this, it risks becoming just another under utilised piece of software.

By empowering the supplier to be proactive and update their vendor information i.e. they get paid faster and more easily.

Enabling the supplier to also upload other information e.g. marketing information, innovation ideas, can also be an intuitive way to develop the supplier / customer relationship through the platform and ensure that there is a carrot for the vendor to maintain an active presence on the portal.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>OCG Software website</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickverkroost/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nick on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cc3c999f-4429-4a3a-89e4-2dc497cce4f4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9c408122-25da-4c5f-850c-c2518f5c8d5f/procuretech-nick-verkroost-ocg-software-s2e16.mp3" length="31516256" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Best-of-Breed vs. Enterprise Suites: The Procuretech Pub with Nico Bac</title><itunes:title>Best-of-Breed vs. Enterprise Suites: The Procuretech Pub with Nico Bac</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Enterprise suites vs. Best-of-Breed is a long-standing and hotly debated topic.

This week's episode is an edit of a LinkedIn Live session that I did with Nico. If you'd like to see this on video, just head across to The Procuretech Podcast Page on LinkedIn and watch the complete live stream!
<h2><strong>The ongoing debate between Best-of-Breed vs. Enterprise Suites: Which solution is best?</strong></h2>
We start off with a brief introduction of who we are, and our background. Always good to know how we both got into this space!

Then, we dive in to an overview of what, and who, the enterprise suites are. If anyone is listening to the show who isn't an expert in procurement technology, we break it down in easy-to-understand language.

So, what DOES an "all-in-one" suite do, and encompass, and where do they typically fall short?

And why are best-of-breed solutions such hot property right now, and where could they potentially pose problems due to the fragmentation of needing to make numerous solutions communicate with one another?

Nico makes a good case for how a suite can make life easy by covering everything all in one platform.

I counter this by arguing that while that may be true, the cost and the complex, tedious implementation requirements make these suites out-of-reach for non-enterprise companies.

So, where are the limitations of suites, and what are the pitfalls of best-of-breed solutions?
<h3>When does a suite make sense vs. when does best-of-breed have the upper hand?</h3>
Like most complex questions, it kind of depends.

Suites are not agile. They take time to plan, scope and implement.

Whereas best-of-breed may have the upper hand in terms of flexibility and agility, on the flipside it requires integration between multiple solutions. This has been made simpler thanks to APIs and cloud-based infrastructure, but your IT department will need to be open-minded towards change.

Suites tend to be more bulky. Risk of obsolescence by the time a suite is fully implemented and integrated is a real concern.

While Nico oversaw the transformation at P&amp;G five years ago and was extremely happy with the result, the world has changed since then.

Best-of-breed was a much smaller ecosystem back then than it is now, especially since the proliferation and growth of procuretech since the start of the pandemic.

We finish off the live cast by looking at where this space is heading, and a lot of the future trends which may, or may not happen! It's always so much fun to speculate though!

Specifically, we examine:
<ul>
 	<li>Will there be a consolidation of the best-of-breed market, as companies who fail to deliver the expected growth don't make the grade for the next round of funding?</li>
 	<li>Who will buy them up? The suites or other BoB providers? Or will other procurement software companies simply poach their best talent and / or purchase their IP?</li>
 	<li>Realistically, the market probably isn't big enough for 5 suite providers. Will we see a consolidation among the suite providers, as both best-of-breed solutions and the market leading suites both attack the less dominant suites and eat into their market share?</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://dpnow.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nico on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Enterprise suites vs. Best-of-Breed is a long-standing and hotly debated topic.

This week's episode is an edit of a LinkedIn Live session that I did with Nico. If you'd like to see this on video, just head across to The Procuretech Podcast Page on LinkedIn and watch the complete live stream!
<h2><strong>The ongoing debate between Best-of-Breed vs. Enterprise Suites: Which solution is best?</strong></h2>
We start off with a brief introduction of who we are, and our background. Always good to know how we both got into this space!

Then, we dive in to an overview of what, and who, the enterprise suites are. If anyone is listening to the show who isn't an expert in procurement technology, we break it down in easy-to-understand language.

So, what DOES an "all-in-one" suite do, and encompass, and where do they typically fall short?

And why are best-of-breed solutions such hot property right now, and where could they potentially pose problems due to the fragmentation of needing to make numerous solutions communicate with one another?

Nico makes a good case for how a suite can make life easy by covering everything all in one platform.

I counter this by arguing that while that may be true, the cost and the complex, tedious implementation requirements make these suites out-of-reach for non-enterprise companies.

So, where are the limitations of suites, and what are the pitfalls of best-of-breed solutions?
<h3>When does a suite make sense vs. when does best-of-breed have the upper hand?</h3>
Like most complex questions, it kind of depends.

Suites are not agile. They take time to plan, scope and implement.

Whereas best-of-breed may have the upper hand in terms of flexibility and agility, on the flipside it requires integration between multiple solutions. This has been made simpler thanks to APIs and cloud-based infrastructure, but your IT department will need to be open-minded towards change.

Suites tend to be more bulky. Risk of obsolescence by the time a suite is fully implemented and integrated is a real concern.

While Nico oversaw the transformation at P&amp;G five years ago and was extremely happy with the result, the world has changed since then.

Best-of-breed was a much smaller ecosystem back then than it is now, especially since the proliferation and growth of procuretech since the start of the pandemic.

We finish off the live cast by looking at where this space is heading, and a lot of the future trends which may, or may not happen! It's always so much fun to speculate though!

Specifically, we examine:
<ul>
 	<li>Will there be a consolidation of the best-of-breed market, as companies who fail to deliver the expected growth don't make the grade for the next round of funding?</li>
 	<li>Who will buy them up? The suites or other BoB providers? Or will other procurement software companies simply poach their best talent and / or purchase their IP?</li>
 	<li>Realistically, the market probably isn't big enough for 5 suite providers. Will we see a consolidation among the suite providers, as both best-of-breed solutions and the market leading suites both attack the less dominant suites and eat into their market share?</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://dpnow.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nico on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">33e97ef1-2a4b-44f9-8791-e0d65039431b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a47b4915-4857-4138-8343-267501414bea/copy-of-procuretech-pub-with-nico-bac-s2e15.mp3" length="52096148" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>54:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Leveraging E-Auction Data for Customer Success – Henrik Balslev from Scanmarket</title><itunes:title>Leveraging E-Auction Data for Customer Success – Henrik Balslev from Scanmarket</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Our final episode in our mini-series of e-Sourcing platforms brings us to a well-estalished provider who has been in the space for over 20 years.

So, during the interview with Henrik Balslev, CCO of Danish Source-to-Contract (S2C) software Scanmarket, the most obvious thing to talk about was all of the data they've collected since they've been offering e-auctions and RFx solutions to their customers.
<h2><strong>Using 20 Years of E-Auction Data to Help Customers Gain Competitive Advantage - Henrik Balslev from Scanmarket</strong></h2>
Scanmarket have been around a long time and are one of the early e-sourcing providers.

They recently acquired Swiss-based contract lifecycle management (CLM) platform Symfact to complement their offerings in the S2C space, and can count customers in 86 different countries who use their software.

Their typical client is pretty industry agnostic and somewhere from €1 billion to €20 billion annual turnover, so large enterprises but certainly not Fortune 500 territory.
<h3>How have e-auctions evolved?</h3>
Henrik has been involved in e-auction statistics since 2006. E-auctions are now being used as a more everyday tool and

The evolution has been predominantly in these areas:
<ul>
 	<li>Less focus purely on price</li>
 	<li>More thought around which commodities or categories to tender in an auctions</li>
 	<li>More thought and strategy regarding which type of auction or e-sourcing event to utilise</li>
 	<li>When in the process to take the negotiation process offline and move to in person discussions</li>
</ul><br/>
The move towards a total cost of ownership (TCO) strategy in many organisations has been the bedrock behind these seismic shifts.
<h3>What about using auctions for services?</h3>
Henrik surprisingly confirms that services have always been in the top 10 of most auctioned areas of spend within Scanmarket's platform, but they have seen a significant uptick since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.

What sets services apart is that it is often more tricky to get stakeholders on board for tendering using an e-auction, and that it's also more difficult to measure some of the nuances in proposals for services.

"Use the tool when and where it makes sense" is a very good time from Henrik to make sure that it aids and abets the user, rather than hindering the process through having a policy that forces category managers to use a software that isn't suitable for the tender or RFP in mind.

Running the auction for certain elements within a specific provision of service can also be a successful strategy, and then inviting the top 3 suppliers from the auction to 1-on-1 negotiations to discuss the devil behind the detail. In other words, auctions are a great way to shortlist vendors if there is a large pool of potential suppliers for a certain service.
<h3>How specifically does Scanmarket leverage their auction data?</h3>
The same category for one company can be completely different to the situation within another organisation. There are so many parameters that aren't fixed and are dependent upon an organisation's maturity of procurement, relationship with incumbent vendor, and so on.

Rather than focusing on this, they tend to look at more holistic data.

Henrik cites an example of the optimal number of vendors to include in an auction. Bringing in an extra supplier into the auction statistically increases the savings by 1.11%, but only up to a total of 7 participating suppliers. Increasing the supplier count beyond 7 doesn't bring additional savings according to Scanmarket's data.

We explore how a customer can also best achieve their end goal based on the different auction types and functionalities which can be switched on and off. The "if this, then that" (IFTTT) scenarios which can be looked into based on the data that Scanmarket has, to be able to guide the customer along a path that is likely, statistically, to be more successful.
<h3>Dealing with supplier reluctance to participate</h3>
Henrik explains that reluctance to participate often comes from the Category Manager not communicating effectively to the supplier the exact purpose of running an auction.

While incumbents will always be reluctant to be challenged, he explains the importance of being able quantify the value of the non-price factors and make it clear that it's being measured on TCO, rather than just a tool to beat up suppliers on price.

Communication and conditioning is key prior to launching the event, especially transparency with regard to how the bids will be evaluated and against which specific criteria.
<h3>Competing with established suites vs. startups</h3>
I ask Henrik how they manage to sit in a space where they are seeing competition from established, large suites with a very large marketing budget, versus disruptive startups such as Archlet (episode 9) and DeepStream (episode 11) who are entering the space and challenging existing providers.

He cites 3 main areas:
<ol>
 	<li>Having an intuitive UI and UX that makes them competitive against the startups entering the space.</li>
 	<li>Ensuring that the product is feature rich like the suites are, but not too complex when it comes to accessing and performing this functionality.</li>
 	<li>Using their customer success team as a competitive advantage to ensure that customers get the most out of the tool and are able to use it to its full potential.</li>
 	<li>Connecting customers with other companies who are using Scanmarket who can learn from one another on their journey of using the tool..</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Scanmarket <a href="https://scanmarket.com/en/resources/eauction-savings-reports/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">e-auction savings reports</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrik-balslev-b502b41/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Henrik on LinkedIn</a> * I incorrectly introduced him as CTO on the podcast, whereas his actual title is Chief Commercial Officer (CCO)</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Our final episode in our mini-series of e-Sourcing platforms brings us to a well-estalished provider who has been in the space for over 20 years.

So, during the interview with Henrik Balslev, CCO of Danish Source-to-Contract (S2C) software Scanmarket, the most obvious thing to talk about was all of the data they've collected since they've been offering e-auctions and RFx solutions to their customers.
<h2><strong>Using 20 Years of E-Auction Data to Help Customers Gain Competitive Advantage - Henrik Balslev from Scanmarket</strong></h2>
Scanmarket have been around a long time and are one of the early e-sourcing providers.

They recently acquired Swiss-based contract lifecycle management (CLM) platform Symfact to complement their offerings in the S2C space, and can count customers in 86 different countries who use their software.

Their typical client is pretty industry agnostic and somewhere from €1 billion to €20 billion annual turnover, so large enterprises but certainly not Fortune 500 territory.
<h3>How have e-auctions evolved?</h3>
Henrik has been involved in e-auction statistics since 2006. E-auctions are now being used as a more everyday tool and

The evolution has been predominantly in these areas:
<ul>
 	<li>Less focus purely on price</li>
 	<li>More thought around which commodities or categories to tender in an auctions</li>
 	<li>More thought and strategy regarding which type of auction or e-sourcing event to utilise</li>
 	<li>When in the process to take the negotiation process offline and move to in person discussions</li>
</ul><br/>
The move towards a total cost of ownership (TCO) strategy in many organisations has been the bedrock behind these seismic shifts.
<h3>What about using auctions for services?</h3>
Henrik surprisingly confirms that services have always been in the top 10 of most auctioned areas of spend within Scanmarket's platform, but they have seen a significant uptick since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.

What sets services apart is that it is often more tricky to get stakeholders on board for tendering using an e-auction, and that it's also more difficult to measure some of the nuances in proposals for services.

"Use the tool when and where it makes sense" is a very good time from Henrik to make sure that it aids and abets the user, rather than hindering the process through having a policy that forces category managers to use a software that isn't suitable for the tender or RFP in mind.

Running the auction for certain elements within a specific provision of service can also be a successful strategy, and then inviting the top 3 suppliers from the auction to 1-on-1 negotiations to discuss the devil behind the detail. In other words, auctions are a great way to shortlist vendors if there is a large pool of potential suppliers for a certain service.
<h3>How specifically does Scanmarket leverage their auction data?</h3>
The same category for one company can be completely different to the situation within another organisation. There are so many parameters that aren't fixed and are dependent upon an organisation's maturity of procurement, relationship with incumbent vendor, and so on.

Rather than focusing on this, they tend to look at more holistic data.

Henrik cites an example of the optimal number of vendors to include in an auction. Bringing in an extra supplier into the auction statistically increases the savings by 1.11%, but only up to a total of 7 participating suppliers. Increasing the supplier count beyond 7 doesn't bring additional savings according to Scanmarket's data.

We explore how a customer can also best achieve their end goal based on the different auction types and functionalities which can be switched on and off. The "if this, then that" (IFTTT) scenarios which can be looked into based on the data that Scanmarket has, to be able to guide the customer along a path that is likely, statistically, to be more successful.
<h3>Dealing with supplier reluctance to participate</h3>
Henrik explains that reluctance to participate often comes from the Category Manager not communicating effectively to the supplier the exact purpose of running an auction.

While incumbents will always be reluctant to be challenged, he explains the importance of being able quantify the value of the non-price factors and make it clear that it's being measured on TCO, rather than just a tool to beat up suppliers on price.

Communication and conditioning is key prior to launching the event, especially transparency with regard to how the bids will be evaluated and against which specific criteria.
<h3>Competing with established suites vs. startups</h3>
I ask Henrik how they manage to sit in a space where they are seeing competition from established, large suites with a very large marketing budget, versus disruptive startups such as Archlet (episode 9) and DeepStream (episode 11) who are entering the space and challenging existing providers.

He cites 3 main areas:
<ol>
 	<li>Having an intuitive UI and UX that makes them competitive against the startups entering the space.</li>
 	<li>Ensuring that the product is feature rich like the suites are, but not too complex when it comes to accessing and performing this functionality.</li>
 	<li>Using their customer success team as a competitive advantage to ensure that customers get the most out of the tool and are able to use it to its full potential.</li>
 	<li>Connecting customers with other companies who are using Scanmarket who can learn from one another on their journey of using the tool..</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Scanmarket <a href="https://scanmarket.com/en/resources/eauction-savings-reports/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">e-auction savings reports</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrik-balslev-b502b41/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Henrik on LinkedIn</a> * I incorrectly introduced him as CTO on the podcast, whereas his actual title is Chief Commercial Officer (CCO)</li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3f18f560-ac95-45c8-859a-1521d05d8f18</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c5b16f8b-2857-4823-a1bd-2ce8a3a38811/procuretech-henrik-balslev-scanmarket-s2e14.mp3" length="30844178" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Affordable, easy to use E-Sourcing and Auctions – Nicholas Martin from Market Dojo</title><itunes:title>Affordable, easy to use E-Sourcing and Auctions – Nicholas Martin from Market Dojo</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[A tool that's easy to use and affordable, but also very versatile in terms of what it can do and the add-ons that go with it.

We continue our mini-series of e-sourcing solutions today with Market Dojo.

They've grown a feature rich e-sourcing tool that is offered as a simple, pay monthly software but also comes with many different additional modules to complement the core RFx / e-auction software on offer.

I spoke to one of their Co-Founders, Nic Martin, to discuss what brought them this far, and what their plans are for the future.
<h2><strong>Combining ease-of-use with flexible contracts and plenty of additional modules - Nic Martin from Market Dojo</strong></h2>
Market Dojo has a wide range of customers - from consultants through to SMEs and larger businesses. They see their flexible pricing model as one of their strengths, essentially enabling anyone to use their software on a pay-as-you-go basis. This opens up the tool to independent consultants, small businesses and growing startups, as well as their more established customer base.

Part of the Market Dojo philosophy has been studying a lot of the B2C marketplaces, the most obvious being Amazon, and trying to emulate as much as possible their interface, simplicity and general user experience.
<h3>How important is UX?</h3>
The challenge of receiving customer feedback over the years has meant that it requires a balance of deciding what is really needed vs. what are nice-to-haves.

Keeping users happy while maintaining a solution that is easy and intuitive to use has been key in balancing how to incorporate new features into the product.
<h3>What different types of auctions and RFx are available?</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Core product is e-auctions</li>
 	<li>RFQ</li>
 	<li>Live questionnaires / surveys to factor in considerations other than price, which can provide real time feedback during the event</li>
 	<li>Advanced lots: obtaining cost breakdowns at a much deeper level, without relying on Excel after-the-fact.</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How do they avoid the trap of trying to be everything to everyone?</h3>
Figuring out in the early days to understand WHAT features to pitch to WHICH type of customers has helped Market Dojo to learn and grow, and also to decide which features to prioritise.

Some aspects of the tool may be more valuable to some users than others. For example, an independent consultant may place a lot of value on a choice of different types of e-auctions, whereas an SME or growing startup would need a lot more hand holding when it comes to running events, and perhaps appreciate simplicity and an intuitive UX a lot more.

Niching down is a great marketing theory in principle, but they found that they were winning customers in quite different industries and niches during their early days.

Market Dojo has since seen e-auctions run on such diverse categories of spend as global freight, purchased parts and fruit &amp; vegetables, so versatility and offering a solution that can be used in a variety of different industries has been a difficult but possible balance to achieve.
<h3>Maturing from a pure play e-Sourcing tool to a more rounded solution</h3>
Taking on board customer feedback was a key factor in instigating Market Dojo to develop additional modules as they have grown from being a pure play e-Sourcing solution into evolving into more of a mini-suite.

An example is with the supplier onboarding tool, which was developed based on a request that was made from one of their early customers. One of their biggest challenges was with supplier intake, and they recognised that Market Dojo would be a good solution for this if they could expand beyond just the sourcing module.

Whereas on the other hand, some customer requests were seen not to be aligned with their overall vision and direction, and instead led them to seek out partners who could offer such a solution as a best-of-breed solution that could be integrated with Market Dojo's software.

Nic cites Per Angusta's procurement savings and value performance reporting solution as being a great example of where they felt it was better to partner with an existing solution rather than develop something as an add-on. Listen to Series 1, Episode 13 for my interview with their CEO, Pierre Lapree to get more information on what Per Angusta offers.

Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) versus a more simple contract repository tool is another example of how Market Dojo offers a basic solution but where they have partnered with other providers in the space for customers who require a more comprehensive solution.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://marketdojo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Market Dojo website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicmartin/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nic on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[A tool that's easy to use and affordable, but also very versatile in terms of what it can do and the add-ons that go with it.

We continue our mini-series of e-sourcing solutions today with Market Dojo.

They've grown a feature rich e-sourcing tool that is offered as a simple, pay monthly software but also comes with many different additional modules to complement the core RFx / e-auction software on offer.

I spoke to one of their Co-Founders, Nic Martin, to discuss what brought them this far, and what their plans are for the future.
<h2><strong>Combining ease-of-use with flexible contracts and plenty of additional modules - Nic Martin from Market Dojo</strong></h2>
Market Dojo has a wide range of customers - from consultants through to SMEs and larger businesses. They see their flexible pricing model as one of their strengths, essentially enabling anyone to use their software on a pay-as-you-go basis. This opens up the tool to independent consultants, small businesses and growing startups, as well as their more established customer base.

Part of the Market Dojo philosophy has been studying a lot of the B2C marketplaces, the most obvious being Amazon, and trying to emulate as much as possible their interface, simplicity and general user experience.
<h3>How important is UX?</h3>
The challenge of receiving customer feedback over the years has meant that it requires a balance of deciding what is really needed vs. what are nice-to-haves.

Keeping users happy while maintaining a solution that is easy and intuitive to use has been key in balancing how to incorporate new features into the product.
<h3>What different types of auctions and RFx are available?</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Core product is e-auctions</li>
 	<li>RFQ</li>
 	<li>Live questionnaires / surveys to factor in considerations other than price, which can provide real time feedback during the event</li>
 	<li>Advanced lots: obtaining cost breakdowns at a much deeper level, without relying on Excel after-the-fact.</li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>How do they avoid the trap of trying to be everything to everyone?</h3>
Figuring out in the early days to understand WHAT features to pitch to WHICH type of customers has helped Market Dojo to learn and grow, and also to decide which features to prioritise.

Some aspects of the tool may be more valuable to some users than others. For example, an independent consultant may place a lot of value on a choice of different types of e-auctions, whereas an SME or growing startup would need a lot more hand holding when it comes to running events, and perhaps appreciate simplicity and an intuitive UX a lot more.

Niching down is a great marketing theory in principle, but they found that they were winning customers in quite different industries and niches during their early days.

Market Dojo has since seen e-auctions run on such diverse categories of spend as global freight, purchased parts and fruit &amp; vegetables, so versatility and offering a solution that can be used in a variety of different industries has been a difficult but possible balance to achieve.
<h3>Maturing from a pure play e-Sourcing tool to a more rounded solution</h3>
Taking on board customer feedback was a key factor in instigating Market Dojo to develop additional modules as they have grown from being a pure play e-Sourcing solution into evolving into more of a mini-suite.

An example is with the supplier onboarding tool, which was developed based on a request that was made from one of their early customers. One of their biggest challenges was with supplier intake, and they recognised that Market Dojo would be a good solution for this if they could expand beyond just the sourcing module.

Whereas on the other hand, some customer requests were seen not to be aligned with their overall vision and direction, and instead led them to seek out partners who could offer such a solution as a best-of-breed solution that could be integrated with Market Dojo's software.

Nic cites Per Angusta's procurement savings and value performance reporting solution as being a great example of where they felt it was better to partner with an existing solution rather than develop something as an add-on. Listen to Series 1, Episode 13 for my interview with their CEO, Pierre Lapree to get more information on what Per Angusta offers.

Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) versus a more simple contract repository tool is another example of how Market Dojo offers a basic solution but where they have partnered with other providers in the space for customers who require a more comprehensive solution.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://marketdojo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Market Dojo website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicmartin/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Nic on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a27aeeaa-0619-4f7f-86ad-b744036ab5c3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b2ebcba5-d6d9-4de7-804b-263b3969b9cc/procuretech-nic-martin-market-dojo-s2e13.mp3" length="24551802" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>E-Sourcing plus Vendor Relationship Management – David Wadler from Vendorful</title><itunes:title>E-Sourcing plus Vendor Relationship Management – David Wadler from Vendorful</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We're back with the third in our 5-part series on e-sourcing platforms, and this week we're looking at how e-sourcing can fit into a wider scope covered by a software solution.

How can an e-sourcing requirement be married together with upstream and downstream features to create a mini-suite centred around vendor management, with e-sourcing at its core?

This is what my guest this week, David Wadler, has created with the Vendorful platform, and he's here to walk us through how this approach can reduce the need for too many SaaS applications in one organisation.
<h2>Does a Mini Suite of Best-of-Breed Vendor Relationship Management Trump "One Trick Pony" Software?</h2>
NYC native David starts by giving us some history of his background and how he kind of fell into software engineering and growing a startup after living abroad in France for a number of years.

His first experience of procurement was serendipitous, having sold his first software company to Lexmark, who then engaged him on an assignment to look into costs in their IT category. He quickly realised that the sourcing process was broken and was very administrative and manual, and hence Vendorful as a concept was born!
<h3>E-Sourcing vs. Vendor Management Platform</h3>
The idea for Vendorful was borne out of an initial concept to build a sourcing tool for IT.

As customers demanded more and more features, they followed a strategy they called customer driven development. As David explains, this was based on features that existing customers were asking for rather than internally driven by product strategy.

This resulted in Vendorful growing initially to serve e-sourcing beyond the IT category, and then ultimately to become what it is now; a vendor lifecycle management platform which covers some of the activities further upstream and downstream which would have been conducted on email or spreadsheets.
<h3>Moving from Excel and ERP to one single platform</h3>
David knew they were onto something when a customer contacted them requesting something that had nothing relating to e-sourcing.

He gives an example of supplier onboarding and management where a customer was manually typing in and uploading documents into an ERP system, and managing the records through an Excel spreadsheet which was manually updated.

Knowing that there was a better way, this led Vendorful to be developed into more of a full stack vendor management system, covering much more than just e-sourcing. Indeed, eliminating a lot of manual processes around vendor lifecycle management (VLM) is one of the key attributes they now see as their USP.
<h3>VLM platform plus P2P integration outside of ERP</h3>
Vendorful doesn't touch any steps of the procure-to-pay (P2P) process and instead sees itself as a platform that would go hand-in-hand with a best-of-breed P2P platform. This tech stack is a very viable alternative to one of the established source-to-pay (S2P) suites, or indeed trying to perform this activity natively in an ERP system with, inevitably, the need to revert to email and Excel for some of the process and analysis.

They see their segment and price point as being particularly competitive to mid-sized businesses and even to some enterprises who perhaps want something more user-friendly or versatile.

Their cost is in the low 6-figure ($) typically versus price tags of over $1 million for enterprise level S2P suites. David quips that it was once described by a sales executive for one of the suites as "Google Docs for Procurement"!
<h3>Defending market position from the bigger suites</h3>
If the suites see them potentially as a danger and move into their market segment, what ways can they differentiate themselves and compete with companies with a much bigger marketing budget?

Vendorful is a new product and is not built on a legacy tech stack that is over 10 years old. It is seen as more versatile and is able to cope with more complexity, based on some of the feedback they have received from customers who have done RFIs and RFPs and have ultimately sourced

They do 5 or 6 different things narrow and deep, rather than trying to do everything wide and shallow. David gives the example of not trying to complete with full stack contract lifecycle management software platforms as an example of this.
<h3>What is the downside of buying a tech stack of individual best-of-breed solutions?</h3>
David coins the term "mini suite" to differentiate what Vendorful is and what it does versus the "one trick pony" very niched down best-of-breed solutions. He describes it as a "Goldilocks" solution, where the customer perhaps needs to invest in 3 different pieces of software rather than 10+ different applications that all, somehow, have to speak to each other and work in tandem.

While eRFX is too narrow, similarly building a suite to compete with the big, established players was seen as being an unviable strategy to succeed in a crowded, mature marketplace.
<h3>Email and Excel as competitors</h3>
We briefly discuss how, even with so many e-sourcing solutions out there, many of them are not necessarily competing against one another.

Rather, the huge market out there they are seeking are the businesses that are still using email and Excel to manage their vendors and their e-sourcing requirements.

Can you still manage all of this using Excel? Sure, but it will take you longer as an end-to-end process and it will require more administrative management. In essence, it's a false economy, which over time will result in your organisation becoming less competitive.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Contact with David <a href="mailto:david@vendorful.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">via email</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwadler/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LinkedIn</a><a href="https://vendorful.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Vendorful website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We're back with the third in our 5-part series on e-sourcing platforms, and this week we're looking at how e-sourcing can fit into a wider scope covered by a software solution.

How can an e-sourcing requirement be married together with upstream and downstream features to create a mini-suite centred around vendor management, with e-sourcing at its core?

This is what my guest this week, David Wadler, has created with the Vendorful platform, and he's here to walk us through how this approach can reduce the need for too many SaaS applications in one organisation.
<h2>Does a Mini Suite of Best-of-Breed Vendor Relationship Management Trump "One Trick Pony" Software?</h2>
NYC native David starts by giving us some history of his background and how he kind of fell into software engineering and growing a startup after living abroad in France for a number of years.

His first experience of procurement was serendipitous, having sold his first software company to Lexmark, who then engaged him on an assignment to look into costs in their IT category. He quickly realised that the sourcing process was broken and was very administrative and manual, and hence Vendorful as a concept was born!
<h3>E-Sourcing vs. Vendor Management Platform</h3>
The idea for Vendorful was borne out of an initial concept to build a sourcing tool for IT.

As customers demanded more and more features, they followed a strategy they called customer driven development. As David explains, this was based on features that existing customers were asking for rather than internally driven by product strategy.

This resulted in Vendorful growing initially to serve e-sourcing beyond the IT category, and then ultimately to become what it is now; a vendor lifecycle management platform which covers some of the activities further upstream and downstream which would have been conducted on email or spreadsheets.
<h3>Moving from Excel and ERP to one single platform</h3>
David knew they were onto something when a customer contacted them requesting something that had nothing relating to e-sourcing.

He gives an example of supplier onboarding and management where a customer was manually typing in and uploading documents into an ERP system, and managing the records through an Excel spreadsheet which was manually updated.

Knowing that there was a better way, this led Vendorful to be developed into more of a full stack vendor management system, covering much more than just e-sourcing. Indeed, eliminating a lot of manual processes around vendor lifecycle management (VLM) is one of the key attributes they now see as their USP.
<h3>VLM platform plus P2P integration outside of ERP</h3>
Vendorful doesn't touch any steps of the procure-to-pay (P2P) process and instead sees itself as a platform that would go hand-in-hand with a best-of-breed P2P platform. This tech stack is a very viable alternative to one of the established source-to-pay (S2P) suites, or indeed trying to perform this activity natively in an ERP system with, inevitably, the need to revert to email and Excel for some of the process and analysis.

They see their segment and price point as being particularly competitive to mid-sized businesses and even to some enterprises who perhaps want something more user-friendly or versatile.

Their cost is in the low 6-figure ($) typically versus price tags of over $1 million for enterprise level S2P suites. David quips that it was once described by a sales executive for one of the suites as "Google Docs for Procurement"!
<h3>Defending market position from the bigger suites</h3>
If the suites see them potentially as a danger and move into their market segment, what ways can they differentiate themselves and compete with companies with a much bigger marketing budget?

Vendorful is a new product and is not built on a legacy tech stack that is over 10 years old. It is seen as more versatile and is able to cope with more complexity, based on some of the feedback they have received from customers who have done RFIs and RFPs and have ultimately sourced

They do 5 or 6 different things narrow and deep, rather than trying to do everything wide and shallow. David gives the example of not trying to complete with full stack contract lifecycle management software platforms as an example of this.
<h3>What is the downside of buying a tech stack of individual best-of-breed solutions?</h3>
David coins the term "mini suite" to differentiate what Vendorful is and what it does versus the "one trick pony" very niched down best-of-breed solutions. He describes it as a "Goldilocks" solution, where the customer perhaps needs to invest in 3 different pieces of software rather than 10+ different applications that all, somehow, have to speak to each other and work in tandem.

While eRFX is too narrow, similarly building a suite to compete with the big, established players was seen as being an unviable strategy to succeed in a crowded, mature marketplace.
<h3>Email and Excel as competitors</h3>
We briefly discuss how, even with so many e-sourcing solutions out there, many of them are not necessarily competing against one another.

Rather, the huge market out there they are seeking are the businesses that are still using email and Excel to manage their vendors and their e-sourcing requirements.

Can you still manage all of this using Excel? Sure, but it will take you longer as an end-to-end process and it will require more administrative management. In essence, it's a false economy, which over time will result in your organisation becoming less competitive.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Contact with David <a href="mailto:david@vendorful.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">via email</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwadler/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LinkedIn</a><a href="https://vendorful.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Vendorful website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e4d56415-ff3c-4b22-90ba-120321f79976</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e677826e-cc59-42a3-9ac6-c64190c46ca4/the-procuretech-podcast-david-wadler-vendorful-s2e12.mp3" length="26963427" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>User Experience at the Heart of E-Sourcing – Jack MacFarlane from DeepStream</title><itunes:title>User Experience at the Heart of E-Sourcing – Jack MacFarlane from DeepStream</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[On this week's episode, we explore a topic that is becoming ever more important when it comes to selecting a piece of software in the B2B space.

Adoption and acceptance of procurement technology within an organisation is highly dependent on a software's user experience and ease of use. And yet very little is spoken about this when we look at review sites and awards for procurement software.

This week's guest is Jack MacFarlane, CEO of DeepStream Technologies. They're an e-sourcing platform with UX at the heart of what they do. But can it compete and hold its own against established solutions already on the market?
<h2>Putting User Experience at the Heart of E-Sourcing Software – Jack MacFarlane from DeepStream</h2>
Jack is not a procurement pro and actually has a background in investment banking, as he explains in the intro. Going from here to found a procurement software company was a decision he took as a result of a gap he saw in the market for businesses to transact and source with each other more effectively.

He saw an email and attachment-based sourcing methodology that was endemic in the businesses he had worked in or experienced, and knew there was a better way. This despite some of the more mature and established competition that is already out there in the marketplace.
<h3>User experience: how important is it compared to features?</h3>
Being the "Mac vs. the Microsoft" as Jack explains it was the USP they wanted to achieve when designing the experience behind DeepStream. From a product philosophy perspective, building a digital platform that was as straightforward to use as sending emails and Excel sheets was their main goal.

Stripping out features and functionality was seen as a necessary evil to ensure that simplicity was key, all the way from supplier onboarding through to sourcing and awarding of tenders.
<h3>What impact can having a better UX have when it comes to user adoption?</h3>
The comparison that Jack makes is with the smartphone.

We use a multitude of apps to perform all the activities we use our smartphone for. There isn't one single suite we use on our phones. The same argument can be made for best-of-breed procurement technology because design and functionality, when it's done right, can trump an all-in-one platform when it comes to usability and adoption.

The easier it is you make something to use, the lower the barriers are to adoption. People can self-learn without the need for lengthy courses or training. You don't need consultants during the implementation phase.

So, logically you're then much more likely to get higher adoption. Not only that, but over time, if the software is easy to use then people are likely to stick with using it vs. reverting to the tried and tested method of using email and spreadsheets.
<h3>The case for features vs. simplicity</h3>
If you can essentially digitise within a day, and have users and business units up and running almost immediately, it can organically expand and develop more quickly than a more complex piece of software.

"You're never going to see the benefits of digital platforms if you have low engagement rates and it's hard to use" as Jack argues.

He sees the more traditional enterprise model to be:
<ul>
 	<li>Strategy to buy a feature rich, expensive software suite that requires a lot of training to use</li>
 	<li>Get management buy-in</li>
 	<li>Top down "enforcement" of the policy</li>
</ul><br/>
Which ultimately fails if over time, users revert back to form and use what they feel comfortable with i.e. email and Excel.
<h3>What about UX for supplier onboarding?</h3>
While suppliers will always be sceptical towards e-sourcing software, DeepStream have endeavoured to make the supplier experience as smooth as possible.

The average onboarding time for suppliers is &lt; 5 minutes and it's free to register. There are also a couple of measures that they are using to encourage suppliers to get more from the platform

Supplier engagement is one of the KPIs that they track in terms of response rate vs. the previous process before implementing DeepStream as a platform. What they are seeing is that it is higher when they use the platform.

They put this down to not just user experience but also the automation of the "nudging" to get them to sign up, accept and respond to the RFP. Doing this by email is manual, whereas this can be automated using an e-sourcing tool.
<h3>How are DeepStream growing in a crowded marketplace?</h3>
Their feedback from customers is that they see the benefit as being able to have all of their data in a single source of truth, especially with increasing audit and compliance requirements.

The "G" in ESG of having a collaborative, easy-to-use software for all of their data governance in the sourcing process is a big plus point.

Supplier evaluation (qualitative and quantitative) is also a feature and a benefit of being able to use an e-sourcing platform, and DeepStream also offers this.

Supplier matching and leveraging the network data that is in the Deep Stream platform. Building algorithms that will help to match suppliers that may be interested in bidding on the items that a client is seeking to source. As more clients and suppliers sign up, this will also grow and increase in value.
<h3>Are DeepStream seeking to niche down into a specific sector to leverage this further?</h3>
While on the one hand the product is industry agnostic, to benefit from supplier matching clearly helps if they have customers from a similar industry sector.

DeepStream has specifically niched down on the greentech sector and has seen rapid growth in this area. Because many of these companies are scaleups or new companies who don't have a stack of legacy software, the mindset of these type of organisations seems to match their philosophy with the UX-first proposition.

The appetite within this industry sector tends to be more open towards using new technology and seems to be uninhibited by a more resistant-to-change mindset that can be found in more traditional corporations.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="mailto:jm@deepstreamtech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Contact Jack by email</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.deep.stream" target="_blank" rel="noopener">DeepStream website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[On this week's episode, we explore a topic that is becoming ever more important when it comes to selecting a piece of software in the B2B space.

Adoption and acceptance of procurement technology within an organisation is highly dependent on a software's user experience and ease of use. And yet very little is spoken about this when we look at review sites and awards for procurement software.

This week's guest is Jack MacFarlane, CEO of DeepStream Technologies. They're an e-sourcing platform with UX at the heart of what they do. But can it compete and hold its own against established solutions already on the market?
<h2>Putting User Experience at the Heart of E-Sourcing Software – Jack MacFarlane from DeepStream</h2>
Jack is not a procurement pro and actually has a background in investment banking, as he explains in the intro. Going from here to found a procurement software company was a decision he took as a result of a gap he saw in the market for businesses to transact and source with each other more effectively.

He saw an email and attachment-based sourcing methodology that was endemic in the businesses he had worked in or experienced, and knew there was a better way. This despite some of the more mature and established competition that is already out there in the marketplace.
<h3>User experience: how important is it compared to features?</h3>
Being the "Mac vs. the Microsoft" as Jack explains it was the USP they wanted to achieve when designing the experience behind DeepStream. From a product philosophy perspective, building a digital platform that was as straightforward to use as sending emails and Excel sheets was their main goal.

Stripping out features and functionality was seen as a necessary evil to ensure that simplicity was key, all the way from supplier onboarding through to sourcing and awarding of tenders.
<h3>What impact can having a better UX have when it comes to user adoption?</h3>
The comparison that Jack makes is with the smartphone.

We use a multitude of apps to perform all the activities we use our smartphone for. There isn't one single suite we use on our phones. The same argument can be made for best-of-breed procurement technology because design and functionality, when it's done right, can trump an all-in-one platform when it comes to usability and adoption.

The easier it is you make something to use, the lower the barriers are to adoption. People can self-learn without the need for lengthy courses or training. You don't need consultants during the implementation phase.

So, logically you're then much more likely to get higher adoption. Not only that, but over time, if the software is easy to use then people are likely to stick with using it vs. reverting to the tried and tested method of using email and spreadsheets.
<h3>The case for features vs. simplicity</h3>
If you can essentially digitise within a day, and have users and business units up and running almost immediately, it can organically expand and develop more quickly than a more complex piece of software.

"You're never going to see the benefits of digital platforms if you have low engagement rates and it's hard to use" as Jack argues.

He sees the more traditional enterprise model to be:
<ul>
 	<li>Strategy to buy a feature rich, expensive software suite that requires a lot of training to use</li>
 	<li>Get management buy-in</li>
 	<li>Top down "enforcement" of the policy</li>
</ul><br/>
Which ultimately fails if over time, users revert back to form and use what they feel comfortable with i.e. email and Excel.
<h3>What about UX for supplier onboarding?</h3>
While suppliers will always be sceptical towards e-sourcing software, DeepStream have endeavoured to make the supplier experience as smooth as possible.

The average onboarding time for suppliers is &lt; 5 minutes and it's free to register. There are also a couple of measures that they are using to encourage suppliers to get more from the platform

Supplier engagement is one of the KPIs that they track in terms of response rate vs. the previous process before implementing DeepStream as a platform. What they are seeing is that it is higher when they use the platform.

They put this down to not just user experience but also the automation of the "nudging" to get them to sign up, accept and respond to the RFP. Doing this by email is manual, whereas this can be automated using an e-sourcing tool.
<h3>How are DeepStream growing in a crowded marketplace?</h3>
Their feedback from customers is that they see the benefit as being able to have all of their data in a single source of truth, especially with increasing audit and compliance requirements.

The "G" in ESG of having a collaborative, easy-to-use software for all of their data governance in the sourcing process is a big plus point.

Supplier evaluation (qualitative and quantitative) is also a feature and a benefit of being able to use an e-sourcing platform, and DeepStream also offers this.

Supplier matching and leveraging the network data that is in the Deep Stream platform. Building algorithms that will help to match suppliers that may be interested in bidding on the items that a client is seeking to source. As more clients and suppliers sign up, this will also grow and increase in value.
<h3>Are DeepStream seeking to niche down into a specific sector to leverage this further?</h3>
While on the one hand the product is industry agnostic, to benefit from supplier matching clearly helps if they have customers from a similar industry sector.

DeepStream has specifically niched down on the greentech sector and has seen rapid growth in this area. Because many of these companies are scaleups or new companies who don't have a stack of legacy software, the mindset of these type of organisations seems to match their philosophy with the UX-first proposition.

The appetite within this industry sector tends to be more open towards using new technology and seems to be uninhibited by a more resistant-to-change mindset that can be found in more traditional corporations.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="mailto:jm@deepstreamtech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Contact Jack by email</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.deep.stream" target="_blank" rel="noopener">DeepStream website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e7712157-91af-4ce2-ba19-4f9244a0c534</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/252ddd7d-5ee4-461a-84b4-2c11c5e77d72/the-procuretech-podcast-jack-macfarlane-deepstream-s2e11.mp3" length="26395420" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Leveraging E-Sourcing for Non-Price Factors – Lukas Wawrla &amp; Tim Grunow from Archlet</title><itunes:title>Leveraging E-Sourcing for Non-Price Factors – Lukas Wawrla &amp; Tim Grunow from Archlet</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week we kick off a mini-series of 5 podcasts on e-sourcing software.

On the one hand, this is a mature market, with lots of established players. Indeed, many of the larger suites started out as auction platforms back in the day.

But this is now being challenged by fresh thinking and new technology, especially as businesses realise that there are way more possibilities to drive value here than just through a traditional e-auction platform.

First up, we welcome Tim Grunow and Lukas Wawrla from Zurich-based startup Archlet to the podcast.
<h2><strong>Leveraging E-Sourcing to Consider Non-Price Factors - Lukas Wawrla &amp; Tim Grunow from Archlet</strong></h2>
Archlet began as a university project, and has since developed into a startup with over 30 employees, which recently secured $10 million in Series A funding to continue its path of impressive growth since inception in 2019.

Tim explains how they grew quickly to learn about supporting a client on a packaging sourcing project during a university consulting assignment, and how this ultimately became the spin-off that then became Archlet.
<h3>Why are companies still using Email and Excel, with so many e-sourcing tools already out there?</h3>
Lukas argues that perhaps it's flexibility.

The tools are not versatile, flexible or user-friendly enough to facilitate an end-to-end sourcing event completely within platform. At some point, sourcing managers get stuck or frustrated with the tool and revert back to form, which means going offline and using Excel to analyse the data from their tenders.

We talk about re-thinking procurement tools starting with the user first and explore a great graphic that I came across when I was on Archlet's website, all about Procurement's digitalisation journey:

If we consider e-sourcing, there are 5 stages:

Stage 1 - 100% Email and Excel based

Stage 2 - Supported by technology i.e. using an e-sourcing tool as a repository to collect bids or run e-auctions, but then the analysis and post-event requirements are typically done off platform; often then offline in Excel.

Stage 3 - Optimisation: The ability to perform the end-to-end event, including supplier onboarding, event management, post-event analysis and negotiation completely within the e-sourcing platform

Stage 4 - Guided Sourcing: How you could use the tool to create your scenarios to get to your desired outcomes faster? Leveraging external data as part of this to augment and complement the data in a sourcing event.

Stage 5 - Autonomous Sourcing: Completely autonomous. Will we ever get there? This is the blue sky scenario!
<h3>So, how can we avoid post-event deferment to Excel?</h3>
Focusing on the USER as a key USP, instead of being driven by features and process.

Many existing e-sourcing tools are seen as being process-centric. Archlet have focused on "consumerising" the approach.

They see the key as being feature-rich enough to offer the value that other tools can't offer, but at the same time have user-friendliness and ease-of-use at the heart of the product.

Their trick that they have up their sleeve is using external data sources from other third parties to add value to and enhance the e-sourcing data, enabling users to incorporate this into their supplier selection process during a sourcing event.
<h3>Leveraging non-price and external data factors into the sourcing decision</h3>
Tim and Lukas walk us through their strategy of having tools integrated into their platform that cover other non-price related aspects of an e-sourcing event.

Archlet recently partnered with existing tech offered by Tealbook and Ecovadis for example, which can be integrated into their e-sourcing process and their data leveraged to add this into the native data that is returned as part of the e-sourcing event.

The opportunity to have additional know-how that you don't necessarily have directly from your suppliers with the responses that they give.

Having this data in your decision-making and your post tender discussions will enable more meaningful negotiations and follow-up conversations moving towards making a final sourcing decision.
<h3>Are stakeholders more engaged in sourcing events if they see events being less focused on price?</h3>
Tim gives an example of a reference customer, who as a part of their Procurement Excellence team has someone in charge of game theoretical processes when it comes to negotiation design.

This person is much more involved in getting involves with buyers to help them use data to structure their negotiations. They can look at many different parameters now, both price and non-price, to design that negotiation before they go into battle with their suppliers post-tender.

Having this approach has facilitated a more collaborative engagement with stakeholders during and after sourcing events.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/timgrunow/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tim</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukas-wawrla-82a84211b/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lukas</a> on LinkedIn</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.archlet.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Archlet website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week we kick off a mini-series of 5 podcasts on e-sourcing software.

On the one hand, this is a mature market, with lots of established players. Indeed, many of the larger suites started out as auction platforms back in the day.

But this is now being challenged by fresh thinking and new technology, especially as businesses realise that there are way more possibilities to drive value here than just through a traditional e-auction platform.

First up, we welcome Tim Grunow and Lukas Wawrla from Zurich-based startup Archlet to the podcast.
<h2><strong>Leveraging E-Sourcing to Consider Non-Price Factors - Lukas Wawrla &amp; Tim Grunow from Archlet</strong></h2>
Archlet began as a university project, and has since developed into a startup with over 30 employees, which recently secured $10 million in Series A funding to continue its path of impressive growth since inception in 2019.

Tim explains how they grew quickly to learn about supporting a client on a packaging sourcing project during a university consulting assignment, and how this ultimately became the spin-off that then became Archlet.
<h3>Why are companies still using Email and Excel, with so many e-sourcing tools already out there?</h3>
Lukas argues that perhaps it's flexibility.

The tools are not versatile, flexible or user-friendly enough to facilitate an end-to-end sourcing event completely within platform. At some point, sourcing managers get stuck or frustrated with the tool and revert back to form, which means going offline and using Excel to analyse the data from their tenders.

We talk about re-thinking procurement tools starting with the user first and explore a great graphic that I came across when I was on Archlet's website, all about Procurement's digitalisation journey:

If we consider e-sourcing, there are 5 stages:

Stage 1 - 100% Email and Excel based

Stage 2 - Supported by technology i.e. using an e-sourcing tool as a repository to collect bids or run e-auctions, but then the analysis and post-event requirements are typically done off platform; often then offline in Excel.

Stage 3 - Optimisation: The ability to perform the end-to-end event, including supplier onboarding, event management, post-event analysis and negotiation completely within the e-sourcing platform

Stage 4 - Guided Sourcing: How you could use the tool to create your scenarios to get to your desired outcomes faster? Leveraging external data as part of this to augment and complement the data in a sourcing event.

Stage 5 - Autonomous Sourcing: Completely autonomous. Will we ever get there? This is the blue sky scenario!
<h3>So, how can we avoid post-event deferment to Excel?</h3>
Focusing on the USER as a key USP, instead of being driven by features and process.

Many existing e-sourcing tools are seen as being process-centric. Archlet have focused on "consumerising" the approach.

They see the key as being feature-rich enough to offer the value that other tools can't offer, but at the same time have user-friendliness and ease-of-use at the heart of the product.

Their trick that they have up their sleeve is using external data sources from other third parties to add value to and enhance the e-sourcing data, enabling users to incorporate this into their supplier selection process during a sourcing event.
<h3>Leveraging non-price and external data factors into the sourcing decision</h3>
Tim and Lukas walk us through their strategy of having tools integrated into their platform that cover other non-price related aspects of an e-sourcing event.

Archlet recently partnered with existing tech offered by Tealbook and Ecovadis for example, which can be integrated into their e-sourcing process and their data leveraged to add this into the native data that is returned as part of the e-sourcing event.

The opportunity to have additional know-how that you don't necessarily have directly from your suppliers with the responses that they give.

Having this data in your decision-making and your post tender discussions will enable more meaningful negotiations and follow-up conversations moving towards making a final sourcing decision.
<h3>Are stakeholders more engaged in sourcing events if they see events being less focused on price?</h3>
Tim gives an example of a reference customer, who as a part of their Procurement Excellence team has someone in charge of game theoretical processes when it comes to negotiation design.

This person is much more involved in getting involves with buyers to help them use data to structure their negotiations. They can look at many different parameters now, both price and non-price, to design that negotiation before they go into battle with their suppliers post-tender.

Having this approach has facilitated a more collaborative engagement with stakeholders during and after sourcing events.
<h3>Stay in touch!</h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/timgrunow/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tim</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukas-wawrla-82a84211b/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lukas</a> on LinkedIn</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.archlet.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Archlet website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
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<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">This week is a solo episode. I rarely do them, and I thought long and hard before publishing this.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">At the end of the day, I'm just one person who has a keen interest in digital procurement technology. I'm not an academic or a researcher, but I do take a passionate interest in what is out there and I have some strong views on what I feel should be the priorities when it comes to digital procurement transformations.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">I'm also acutely aware that most of the listeners to the podcast are not CPOs in enterprise level organisations. My aim is to bring content out there to Procurement Leaders outside of Fortune 500 companies and to shine light on solutions that are a fit for regular, mid-market businesses.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Challenging or questioning the conventional wisdom of how these lists are made up is something I debated for a while.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Ultimately I decided that listeners need to know and understand what goes into selecting these lists, so as they can look at them with a critical mindset and draw their own conclusions.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">I sincerely hope this episode provides value to everyone who listens to it and I would love to hear your feedback!</p>

<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Spend Matters</h3>
<div>Spend Matters are a household name to anyone in the Procurement space and are part of a larger parent company, Azul Partners.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters was founded by Jason Busch in 2004 and was one of the first Procurement and Supply Chain Blogs.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The focus on digital procurement technology with their 50 To Watch and 50 To Know began in earnest in 2014, and has since grown to be the go-to resource for research, analysis and content in the digital procurement space.</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, what are the 50 To Watch and 50 To Know?</div>
<div></div>
<div>Let's have a look:</div>
<h3>Almanac</h3>
<div>They're part of a wider directory of digital procurement solutions housed on the Spend Matters called the Spend Matters Almanac.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The Almanac has over 530 listings from 59 categories and over 140 analyst insights.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Feeding into the Almanac is the Spend Matters Solution Map, an interactive software solution finder, where the user can select a comparison of different types of procurement software based on a bunch of different criteria and buying personas.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters have a pretty big analyst team to crunch the data, and the listings have been going since 2014, so they have a huge back catalogue of content and analysis to draw from!</div>
<div></div>
<div>There are 23 different categories in the Almanac in total, and not all of them are focused on software itself. There are some consulting, training and membership organisations included in here too.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But this is what sets the base for the 50 To Know and 50 To Watch</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, how do we get from here to the 50 To Know and 50 To Watch lists?</div>
<div></div>
<div>"The Spend Matters® annual 50 Providers to Know and 50 Providers to Watch lists are determined by the entire Spend Matters analyst team to represent the best of the commercial providers that serve enterprise-level procurement organizations."</div>
<div></div>
<div>"We do not include brand new startups with only a few employees and customers who are piloting some “minimum viable products”. We track over a dozen of them right now and are working on highlighting them in the near future."</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters makes it very clear that participation is NOT "pay-to-play", rather "participate-to-play".</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, the 50 To Watch and 50 To Know is NOT sponsored content.</div>
<div></div>
<div>BUT</div>
<div></div>
<div>It can, however, mean that if a provider does not agree to participate according to the (pretty lengthy) RFI criteria laid down by Spend Matters that their solution will not be included.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This is also acknowledged by Spend Matters themselves - they openly recognise that there are some solutions out there who may be worthy of making the list but choose not to put themselves through the participation process for whatever reason.</div>
<div></div>
<div>"From a methodology perspective, first, the analysts review last year’s lists and determine which providers no longer meet the criteria as listed above. Then we add in the providers who have made an impact (or resurgence) in the market."</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, the previous list is the starting point, which is then refined, updated, discussed, debated by Spend Matters analyst team: This is based on the usual adage of good solutions lose their way, and new companies enter the market to challenge them.</div>
<h3>The 50 To Know</h3>
<div>The 50 To Know are the ones Spend Matters recognises at the best-in-class in the procurement and supply chain technology market.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Focusing on the key criteria such as innovation, market presence, tech competency, and solution delivery.</div>
<div></div>
<div>According to Spend Matters, these are the 50 most established and form the cornerstone of technology that enterprise level procurement teams should be aware of.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Some of them are not pure-play procurement tech companies.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The 50 To Know tends to focus on a mixture of enterprise level procurement suites on the one hand, as well as other well-established software dealing with other areas of the business that touch on procurement and supply chain i.e. cross border payments, financial risk, fraud, tax etc.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The list also includes Suplari and Orpheus, who have now been acquired by Microsoft and McKinsey respectively.</div>
<div></div>
<div>In fact, there are only 10 that I would describe as pure-play procuretech solutions.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Of course, this is just my analysis as one person with a keen interest in procurement tech. Take this with a large pinch of salt, because my "criteria" are going to be different than a CPO of a Fortune 500 company when evaluating what procurement tech solutions are interesting.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But that's the whole point, and is a general comment which I'll explore later.</div>
<div></div>
<div>These lists are built, reviewed and evaluated with the needs and requirements of procurement teams from the world's largest corporations in mind.</div>
<div></div>
<div>If you're a procurement leader for a $500 million company, a lot of what you see here will most likely not be so relevant.</div>
<h3>50 To Watch</h3>
<div>Typically the Providers to Watch list sees more turnover than the Providers to Know, and this rang true in 2021 with almost one-third of the Providers to Watch being new to the list from last year.</div>
<h3>Future 5</h3>
<div>Now we're talking.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This is a new feature this year, and I love it. The startups featured in this section are, according to Spend Matters website:</div>
<ul>
 	<li>
<div>Is &lt; 5 years old, with ideally &lt; 2 years in the market (official product launch)</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has 5+ customers</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has an innovative, interesting application of technology</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Maintains clear momentum and sustainability</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has &lt; $10 million in revenue</div></li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>ProcureTech100</h3>
<div>ProcureTech is a new platform, founded in 2020 by CEO Lance Younger, based in London.</div>
<div></div>
<div>They are a new business and are still growing out their services but they have a prominent collaboration with Kearney which is featured heavily on their website.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The ProcureTech100 was announced in October 2021.</div>
<div></div>
<div>ProcureTech claims on their website that the 100 were selected from research of over 4,000 digital procurement solutions.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Now, I'm not actually convinced there are over 4,000 digital procurement solutions out there. But let's overlook that for a moment.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The shortlist was selected using statistical analysis of over 40 key data points, including growth, security, customer, financial and employee data.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This shortlist was then taken to a panel of over 60 experts. These experts are listed on their website and are a mix of practitioners, consultants, former CPOs,  VC firms and procurement services providers.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But, this is where the trail goes a little bit cold: How they selected them doesn't appear to be very transparent at all.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Let's take a look who's in the ProcureTech100:</div>
<div></div>
<div>Well, first of all, it's dominated by a large number of enterprise level suites.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The kind of names that when you talk to the average procurement professional who actually uses the software day-in, day-out, they don't seem too enthused by their experience of using them.</div>
<div></div>
<div>There are also a lot of providers in there who, while they definitely DO focus on procurement as part of their solution, are not exclusively a digital procurement technology provider.</div>
<div></div>
<div>In fairness, there are also some top, best-of-breed exclusively procuretech solutions in the list too. It's great to see these companies featured, especially some of those which have experienced some rapid growth since...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true"><strong>The Lowdown on Spend Matters 50 To Know / 50 To Watch and the ProcureTech100</strong></h2>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">This week is a solo episode. I rarely do them, and I thought long and hard before publishing this.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">At the end of the day, I'm just one person who has a keen interest in digital procurement technology. I'm not an academic or a researcher, but I do take a passionate interest in what is out there and I have some strong views on what I feel should be the priorities when it comes to digital procurement transformations.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">I'm also acutely aware that most of the listeners to the podcast are not CPOs in enterprise level organisations. My aim is to bring content out there to Procurement Leaders outside of Fortune 500 companies and to shine light on solutions that are a fit for regular, mid-market businesses.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Challenging or questioning the conventional wisdom of how these lists are made up is something I debated for a while.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Ultimately I decided that listeners need to know and understand what goes into selecting these lists, so as they can look at them with a critical mindset and draw their own conclusions.</p>
<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">I sincerely hope this episode provides value to everyone who listens to it and I would love to hear your feedback!</p>

<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []" data-en-clipboard="true">Spend Matters</h3>
<div>Spend Matters are a household name to anyone in the Procurement space and are part of a larger parent company, Azul Partners.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters was founded by Jason Busch in 2004 and was one of the first Procurement and Supply Chain Blogs.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The focus on digital procurement technology with their 50 To Watch and 50 To Know began in earnest in 2014, and has since grown to be the go-to resource for research, analysis and content in the digital procurement space.</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, what are the 50 To Watch and 50 To Know?</div>
<div></div>
<div>Let's have a look:</div>
<h3>Almanac</h3>
<div>They're part of a wider directory of digital procurement solutions housed on the Spend Matters called the Spend Matters Almanac.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The Almanac has over 530 listings from 59 categories and over 140 analyst insights.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Feeding into the Almanac is the Spend Matters Solution Map, an interactive software solution finder, where the user can select a comparison of different types of procurement software based on a bunch of different criteria and buying personas.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters have a pretty big analyst team to crunch the data, and the listings have been going since 2014, so they have a huge back catalogue of content and analysis to draw from!</div>
<div></div>
<div>There are 23 different categories in the Almanac in total, and not all of them are focused on software itself. There are some consulting, training and membership organisations included in here too.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But this is what sets the base for the 50 To Know and 50 To Watch</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, how do we get from here to the 50 To Know and 50 To Watch lists?</div>
<div></div>
<div>"The Spend Matters® annual 50 Providers to Know and 50 Providers to Watch lists are determined by the entire Spend Matters analyst team to represent the best of the commercial providers that serve enterprise-level procurement organizations."</div>
<div></div>
<div>"We do not include brand new startups with only a few employees and customers who are piloting some “minimum viable products”. We track over a dozen of them right now and are working on highlighting them in the near future."</div>
<div></div>
<div>Spend Matters makes it very clear that participation is NOT "pay-to-play", rather "participate-to-play".</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, the 50 To Watch and 50 To Know is NOT sponsored content.</div>
<div></div>
<div>BUT</div>
<div></div>
<div>It can, however, mean that if a provider does not agree to participate according to the (pretty lengthy) RFI criteria laid down by Spend Matters that their solution will not be included.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This is also acknowledged by Spend Matters themselves - they openly recognise that there are some solutions out there who may be worthy of making the list but choose not to put themselves through the participation process for whatever reason.</div>
<div></div>
<div>"From a methodology perspective, first, the analysts review last year’s lists and determine which providers no longer meet the criteria as listed above. Then we add in the providers who have made an impact (or resurgence) in the market."</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, the previous list is the starting point, which is then refined, updated, discussed, debated by Spend Matters analyst team: This is based on the usual adage of good solutions lose their way, and new companies enter the market to challenge them.</div>
<h3>The 50 To Know</h3>
<div>The 50 To Know are the ones Spend Matters recognises at the best-in-class in the procurement and supply chain technology market.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Focusing on the key criteria such as innovation, market presence, tech competency, and solution delivery.</div>
<div></div>
<div>According to Spend Matters, these are the 50 most established and form the cornerstone of technology that enterprise level procurement teams should be aware of.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Some of them are not pure-play procurement tech companies.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The 50 To Know tends to focus on a mixture of enterprise level procurement suites on the one hand, as well as other well-established software dealing with other areas of the business that touch on procurement and supply chain i.e. cross border payments, financial risk, fraud, tax etc.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The list also includes Suplari and Orpheus, who have now been acquired by Microsoft and McKinsey respectively.</div>
<div></div>
<div>In fact, there are only 10 that I would describe as pure-play procuretech solutions.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Of course, this is just my analysis as one person with a keen interest in procurement tech. Take this with a large pinch of salt, because my "criteria" are going to be different than a CPO of a Fortune 500 company when evaluating what procurement tech solutions are interesting.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But that's the whole point, and is a general comment which I'll explore later.</div>
<div></div>
<div>These lists are built, reviewed and evaluated with the needs and requirements of procurement teams from the world's largest corporations in mind.</div>
<div></div>
<div>If you're a procurement leader for a $500 million company, a lot of what you see here will most likely not be so relevant.</div>
<h3>50 To Watch</h3>
<div>Typically the Providers to Watch list sees more turnover than the Providers to Know, and this rang true in 2021 with almost one-third of the Providers to Watch being new to the list from last year.</div>
<h3>Future 5</h3>
<div>Now we're talking.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This is a new feature this year, and I love it. The startups featured in this section are, according to Spend Matters website:</div>
<ul>
 	<li>
<div>Is &lt; 5 years old, with ideally &lt; 2 years in the market (official product launch)</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has 5+ customers</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has an innovative, interesting application of technology</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Maintains clear momentum and sustainability</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Has &lt; $10 million in revenue</div></li>
</ul><br/>
<h3>ProcureTech100</h3>
<div>ProcureTech is a new platform, founded in 2020 by CEO Lance Younger, based in London.</div>
<div></div>
<div>They are a new business and are still growing out their services but they have a prominent collaboration with Kearney which is featured heavily on their website.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The ProcureTech100 was announced in October 2021.</div>
<div></div>
<div>ProcureTech claims on their website that the 100 were selected from research of over 4,000 digital procurement solutions.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Now, I'm not actually convinced there are over 4,000 digital procurement solutions out there. But let's overlook that for a moment.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The shortlist was selected using statistical analysis of over 40 key data points, including growth, security, customer, financial and employee data.</div>
<div></div>
<div>This shortlist was then taken to a panel of over 60 experts. These experts are listed on their website and are a mix of practitioners, consultants, former CPOs,  VC firms and procurement services providers.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But, this is where the trail goes a little bit cold: How they selected them doesn't appear to be very transparent at all.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Let's take a look who's in the ProcureTech100:</div>
<div></div>
<div>Well, first of all, it's dominated by a large number of enterprise level suites.</div>
<div></div>
<div>The kind of names that when you talk to the average procurement professional who actually uses the software day-in, day-out, they don't seem too enthused by their experience of using them.</div>
<div></div>
<div>There are also a lot of providers in there who, while they definitely DO focus on procurement as part of their solution, are not exclusively a digital procurement technology provider.</div>
<div></div>
<div>In fairness, there are also some top, best-of-breed exclusively procuretech solutions in the list too. It's great to see these companies featured, especially some of those which have experienced some rapid growth since early 2020.</div>
<div></div>
<div>I've certainly watched from the sidelines as some of these companies have morphed from being pretty small startups back almost 2 years ago into becoming powerhouses in the field and experiencing incredible growth.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Clearly what they do is sought after out there!</div>
<div></div>
<div>It will be interesting to see how the ProcureTech 100 develops because, in fairness, it is still a very new directory and ProcureTech is growing and expanding as a business to offer other services in the digital procurement space.</div>
<div></div>
<div>It's one we'll keep a close eye on and watch with keen interest. It's always good to see the digital procurement ecosystem growing.</div>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<div>Which brings me to what I feel are the most important characteristics of procurement technology and, unfortunately, these seem to have been missed out of the analysis.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Note there is nothing it would seem in the selection criteria about</div>
<ul>
 	<li>
<div>UX or UI</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Ease of implementation</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Time to implement</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Amount of training for Stakeholders and Procurement Practitioners to comfortably be able to use the software</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Complexity of the platform (ease-of-use vs. features)</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Who is it aimed for?</div>
<ul>
 	<li>
<div>Strategic Procurement Teams</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Operational Users</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Wider Stakeholders</div></li>
</ul><br/>
</li>
 	<li>
<div>How will the wider business community interact with and use the software?</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Cost</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>Licensing / Usage model</div></li>
</ul><br/>
<div></div>
<div>Now, I'm not saying that these directories and rankings aren't useful. They most certainly are.</div>
<div></div>
<div>They offer a HUGE amount of value to make practitioners out there aware of what solutions there are and what they can do.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But I feel they are lacking.</div>
<div></div>
<div>First of all, they are ALL, WAY TOO FOCUSED on large, enterprise level solutions.</div>
<div></div>
<div>There is very little analysis out there that would assist a Head of Procurement or a CFO in a mid-market business who is looking to digitise his or her procurement function or P2P operations.</div>
<div></div>
<div>I don't feel that there is enough thought around who actually uses this software, and what their key criteria are.</div>
<div></div>
<div>It's not features, trust me on this one. And yet, the rankings seem to have been primarily based on features.</div>
<div></div>
<div>None of the analysis focuses on the amount of time taken to plan, execute and integrate any of these solutions into the existing tech ecosystem of the business.</div>
<div></div>
<div>If it takes a year to plan, devise and implement this type of software into your organisation, I do kind of think it's missing some of the criteria that most procurement leaders outside of Fortune 500 companies are looking for:</div>
<div></div>
<div>Namely: Agility and simplicity.</div>
<div></div>
<div>They want their procurement teams to be more operationally efficient, and one of the key ways this happens is through giving them, and their stakeholders, software that is:</div>
<ul>
 	<li>
<div>easy to use</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>easy to implement</div></li>
 	<li>
<div>easy to maintain</div></li>
</ul><br/>
<div>Planning a digital transformation 2 years out will mean that the solution you're selecting will likely be half-way obsolete by the time it's been implemented and embedded.</div>
<div></div>
<div>So, my conclusion to this episode is that yes, these listings and rankings offer a great overview of what is out there to orient you around the leading procurement software.</div>
<div></div>
<div>But if your organisation isn't a Fortune 500 company with extensive budget and resources to plan, implement and execute a digital procurement transformation, then you may find the solutions here too expensive, too advanced, too complex, too feature rich.</div>
<div></div>
<div>Remember, simplicity is key if you're just starting on your digital journey.</div>
<div></div>
<div>My recommendation would be to focus on the 50 To Watch and the Future 5 List, as these are where I see more of a pure play best-of-breed procurement tech solution that would fit with the requirements of most non-enterprise level businesses.</div>
<div></div>
<h3><strong>Looking for advice on digital procurement solutions?</strong></h3>
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</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2efd3109-003f-4dd9-b7c1-46d749771883</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/21cd1a57-4794-4863-b14b-622c55ad047d/procuretech-s2e9-solo-episode.mp3" length="63110920" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 3 – Services Procurement Startups</title><itunes:title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 3 – Services Procurement Startups</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We’re back with the final part of our 3-part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

Each podcast features a different theme, focusing on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit. This final episode looks at 3 solutions out there who have doubled down on tackling the lucrative and under-served niche of digitsing services procurement.
<h3><strong>Prospeum</strong></h3>
Philip Rathjen joins me from Prospeum, a pretty new solution out there that has recently been launched.

Philip explains that the idea came to him and his co-founders when they were working together in IT and they realised how much work goes into tenders, and what a manual, admin-heavy process it is to manage.

This led them to ultimately go their own way and build Prospeum.

Prospeum's features start with supplier scouting and vendor onboarding, and then moves through the complete sourcing process up to the point where a vendor is selected. Their focus is on the big ticket, complex services sourcing requirements in IT and marketing categories. It doesn't offer contract lifecycle management or SRM functionality: it is solely an e-sourcing platform.

So, why not just use one of the established suites for this? Phil explains that the suites are often not just focused on e-sourcing and even those which do have strong e-sourcing modules tend to be a) difficult to use unless you've received a lot of training and b) usually designed with raw materials or commoditised goods in mind, meaning that none of the templates favour services.

Sourcing nuanced, complex services is a whole different board game. Prospeum has a feature that enables pre-qualification of vendors before inviting them to an event, and then enables internal stakeholders and suppliers to collaborate on the platform. A welcome change to what usually happens, when stakeholders and suppliers just email you outside of the e-sourcing platform because they hate using it!

Typical avatar customer for Prospeum? Any business with a large IT spend, typically the higher end of the mid-market towards enterprise level. Banking, financial services, insurance and high growth tech companies would be some examples that fall neatly into that category.

<a href="https://prospeum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Prospeum website</strong></a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipp-rathjen/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Philip's LinkedIn profile</strong></a>
<h3><strong>Apadua</strong></h3>
This one is a bit of an outlier because it's vendor funded. In other words, the suppliers pay to have a profile and a presence on Apadua rather than the buying organisation purchasing a SaaS subscription or a license to run the software.

Here to tell us more about this unique approach is Gregory N. Vider, Apadua's Founder.

Greg sees their strength as being "by procurement professionals, for procurement professionals", as both he and his co-founder Markus have a procurement background.

Direct procurement is usually pretty strong in most companies, whereas indirect procurement and specifically services procurement usually lags behind in the maturity curve.

This is especially applicable in smaller businesses, and as Greg explains, the platform can be used by SMEs with just a couple of million € spend, right the way up to enterprise level clients.

The purpose of Apadua is to make services procurement free at the point of entry to buyers, while at the same time providing both sides with smart technology to create value together and build sustainable business relationships on an equal footing.

But if your own incumbent vendors aren't on the platform, then what? You can also onboard your existing vendors onto the platform in plenty of time to run an RFP.

Does Apadua have issues with getting vendors to pay to use the platform? Gregory argues that in industries such as consulting, for example, the sales cycle is not only notoriously slow but also very expensive. Instead of having to do business on the golf course or at corporate hospitality events, why not instead use a platform like this where you're only getting warm leads approach you?

A good argument, at least in theory.

Apadua right now is mainly focused on European markets but has also recently seen activity in the MENA region too, and is seeking to expand further as their platform grows and the company expands.

New features being added include frame agreements and rate cards, which have been based on customer feedback. They were able to pre-sell licences before developing and launching it, to ensure that there was demand out there!

<a href="https://apadua.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Apadua website</strong></a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorynvider/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Gregory's LinkedIn profile</strong></a>
<h3><strong>Mercanis</strong></h3>
Combining both strategic and tail spend on services is where Mercanis' solution has its sweet spot.

Companies don't necessarily want to invest in multiple platforms to deal with sourcing and managing their services spend.

Flexible workflows to be able to adapt to different types of services souring enable Mercanis customers to source both the high level items as well as the more tactical spend through their guided buying capability, driven by Mercanis' built-in taxonomy for services.

Integrating this into the day-to-day workflows and communications from within organisations is done through a Microsoft Teams and Slack integration functionality.

For strategic spend, there is a workflow builder within the Mercanis software.

For the more day-to-day tail end spend, the platform seeks to take away the manual and tedious work, driven through automation.

I ask Fabian who is using this - more traditional corporations which happen to have a large amount of services spend, or service-based corporations? He mentions that in theory they have seen enquiries from both.

Having the "single source of truth" can be beneficial to companies from all industry sectors, as long as they have enough services spend to justify the investment.

Service-based businesses of €100 million and upwards can already benefit from Mercanis, as well as larger businesses in all sectors.

<a href="https://www.mercanis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mercanis website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianheinrich/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We’re back with the final part of our 3-part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

Each podcast features a different theme, focusing on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit. This final episode looks at 3 solutions out there who have doubled down on tackling the lucrative and under-served niche of digitsing services procurement.
<h3><strong>Prospeum</strong></h3>
Philip Rathjen joins me from Prospeum, a pretty new solution out there that has recently been launched.

Philip explains that the idea came to him and his co-founders when they were working together in IT and they realised how much work goes into tenders, and what a manual, admin-heavy process it is to manage.

This led them to ultimately go their own way and build Prospeum.

Prospeum's features start with supplier scouting and vendor onboarding, and then moves through the complete sourcing process up to the point where a vendor is selected. Their focus is on the big ticket, complex services sourcing requirements in IT and marketing categories. It doesn't offer contract lifecycle management or SRM functionality: it is solely an e-sourcing platform.

So, why not just use one of the established suites for this? Phil explains that the suites are often not just focused on e-sourcing and even those which do have strong e-sourcing modules tend to be a) difficult to use unless you've received a lot of training and b) usually designed with raw materials or commoditised goods in mind, meaning that none of the templates favour services.

Sourcing nuanced, complex services is a whole different board game. Prospeum has a feature that enables pre-qualification of vendors before inviting them to an event, and then enables internal stakeholders and suppliers to collaborate on the platform. A welcome change to what usually happens, when stakeholders and suppliers just email you outside of the e-sourcing platform because they hate using it!

Typical avatar customer for Prospeum? Any business with a large IT spend, typically the higher end of the mid-market towards enterprise level. Banking, financial services, insurance and high growth tech companies would be some examples that fall neatly into that category.

<a href="https://prospeum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Prospeum website</strong></a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipp-rathjen/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Philip's LinkedIn profile</strong></a>
<h3><strong>Apadua</strong></h3>
This one is a bit of an outlier because it's vendor funded. In other words, the suppliers pay to have a profile and a presence on Apadua rather than the buying organisation purchasing a SaaS subscription or a license to run the software.

Here to tell us more about this unique approach is Gregory N. Vider, Apadua's Founder.

Greg sees their strength as being "by procurement professionals, for procurement professionals", as both he and his co-founder Markus have a procurement background.

Direct procurement is usually pretty strong in most companies, whereas indirect procurement and specifically services procurement usually lags behind in the maturity curve.

This is especially applicable in smaller businesses, and as Greg explains, the platform can be used by SMEs with just a couple of million € spend, right the way up to enterprise level clients.

The purpose of Apadua is to make services procurement free at the point of entry to buyers, while at the same time providing both sides with smart technology to create value together and build sustainable business relationships on an equal footing.

But if your own incumbent vendors aren't on the platform, then what? You can also onboard your existing vendors onto the platform in plenty of time to run an RFP.

Does Apadua have issues with getting vendors to pay to use the platform? Gregory argues that in industries such as consulting, for example, the sales cycle is not only notoriously slow but also very expensive. Instead of having to do business on the golf course or at corporate hospitality events, why not instead use a platform like this where you're only getting warm leads approach you?

A good argument, at least in theory.

Apadua right now is mainly focused on European markets but has also recently seen activity in the MENA region too, and is seeking to expand further as their platform grows and the company expands.

New features being added include frame agreements and rate cards, which have been based on customer feedback. They were able to pre-sell licences before developing and launching it, to ensure that there was demand out there!

<a href="https://apadua.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Apadua website</strong></a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorynvider/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Gregory's LinkedIn profile</strong></a>
<h3><strong>Mercanis</strong></h3>
Combining both strategic and tail spend on services is where Mercanis' solution has its sweet spot.

Companies don't necessarily want to invest in multiple platforms to deal with sourcing and managing their services spend.

Flexible workflows to be able to adapt to different types of services souring enable Mercanis customers to source both the high level items as well as the more tactical spend through their guided buying capability, driven by Mercanis' built-in taxonomy for services.

Integrating this into the day-to-day workflows and communications from within organisations is done through a Microsoft Teams and Slack integration functionality.

For strategic spend, there is a workflow builder within the Mercanis software.

For the more day-to-day tail end spend, the platform seeks to take away the manual and tedious work, driven through automation.

I ask Fabian who is using this - more traditional corporations which happen to have a large amount of services spend, or service-based corporations? He mentions that in theory they have seen enquiries from both.

Having the "single source of truth" can be beneficial to companies from all industry sectors, as long as they have enough services spend to justify the investment.

Service-based businesses of €100 million and upwards can already benefit from Mercanis, as well as larger businesses in all sectors.

<a href="https://www.mercanis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mercanis website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianheinrich/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7fd30f62-5db4-428b-bdc0-71b8d2c1d62f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bc2f523a-2754-4a53-9b9d-3ca13f421667/the-procuretech-podcast-procurement-summit-services-tracks-s2e8.mp3" length="29444433" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 2 – AI and Game Theory Startups</title><itunes:title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 2 – AI and Game Theory Startups</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We’re back with part 2 of a 3 part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

Each podcast features a different theme, focusing on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit to bring awareness to some of the exciting new players out there who have a bright future.
<h2><strong>Hot Digital Procurement Startups which Utilise AI and Game Theory to Deliver their Solution</strong></h2>
This episode is all about startups who heavily feature AI or game theory as part of their experience and solution.
<h3>Pactum</h3>
My first guest is Fabio Herle from Pactum.

Pactum leverages AI and game theory to automate negotiations. Quite a bold claim to automate something that many procurement professionals have spent their whole careers trying to refine, improve and perfect!

Fabio explains how the German-speaking area of Europe offers both challenges and advantages in equal measure. On the one hand, Procurement is a fairly mature function and there are some world class companies, procurement functions and well-managed processes. On the other hand, it’s a more conservative business culture where resistance to change can be quite common.

While Pactum was founded in Estonia, they are actually headquartered in the US. Not because of investment but due to ease of customer acquisition in relation to Europe’s largest markets.

So, what can it do, and what are its limitations?

Fabio goes on to explain that Pactum is not able to replace a human in a complex negotiation which requires preparation, emotional intelligence and the need to maintain a strategic relationship with a critical vendor.

Instead, Pactum focuses on automating negotiations for tactical purchases where it may not be the best use of a procurement professional’s time, or where the spend would not have been previously managed by anyone in the procurement team because of the value of the transaction.

NDAs and simple payment terms “horsetrading” are two examples which Fabio cites as being prime opportunities where Pactum can add value.

The goal is that over time, it will be able to handle more complex negotiations as the AI matures. The example of being able to give counter offers and counter proposals, in a proper trading style negotiation, is an area where Fabio explains is part of Pactum’s plans as the tool matures.

Another advantage of using a machine is that it never forgets any of the details!

This is definitely one to watch and a rapidly scaling company.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabio-herle-272a545/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabio’s’ LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://pactum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pactum website</a>
<h3>MySupply</h3>
Next up is Andreas Zimmermann, CEO of MySupply.

This is an e-sourcing tool, looking at some of the more tactical areas of sourcing. Whereas most e-sourcing tools tend to focus on strategic sourcing for highly complex tenders, MySupply focuses on the more straightforward sourcing requirements.

The specific USP of MySupply is the engine behind the tender which guides it towards the right strategy e.g. should it be an auction, 3-bids-and-a-buy, simple RFP etc.

Whereas it is primarily aimed at smaller and medium-sized businesses to provide a way to affordably bring more spend under control and negotiate with suppliers that otherwise would have been unmanaged, it also functions for larger businesses too for any sourcing requirements that are not complex.

As with Pactum, this focuses on a problem that is coming more and more to the forefront. Namely, that Procurement often does not have the resources to get involved in non-strategic spend, but would like to get the savings or cost avoidance from being able to deal with this in a more automated and hands-off way.

We talk about existing tools for e-sourcing and auctions, especially the more established players, not being intuitive or user-friendly. Moreover, these tools also don’t really show or guide users towards the types of sourcing events appropriate for each specific sourcing request.

I ask Andreas about their pricing model because they are very transparent with their pricing on their website, and compared to other solutions it’s an affordable tool.

He explained that the model is to encourage users to trial the software first with complete transparency of the pricing leading into a pilot phase.

Andreas mentions that for growth they will initially concentrate on the German market but as a next logical step, it will be the wider European market and then in North America.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszimmermann/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andreas’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://mysupply.de/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">MySupply website</a>
<h3>Lhotse</h3>
Our final interview on this episode is with Henning Hatje from Lhotse, who also was my guest on episode 5 of the Procuretech Podcast.

Henning came to the interview right after Lhotse was announced as runner-up in the startup pitch competition the previous day, so congratulations!

Lhotse is a tactical sourcing solution which uses big data and AI to make sense of all the historical requisition and PO data on the customer’s side, as well as databases that Lhotse taps into externally to additionally provide potential sources of supply for the goods or service to be purchased.

Similar to the other solutions featured on this episode, Lhotse seeks to save time and resources for procurement and enable more spend to be brought under management through shortening the source-to-PO journey.

There is so much hidden time spent on tactical purchases within all procurement teams that is not really recognised or acknowledged. Whether it’s looking at market data, supplier data, communicating with suppliers, switching systems etc.

The benefit is not only the time-saving function for procurement, however. By utilising a digital tool to bring all of this data and spend into one user-friendly interface, it also enables more spend to be managed which would otherwise have gone under the radar.

As Henning mentions, a poor user experience (UX) often means that goods and services are purchased by stakeholders who bypass the official procurement process. Whether it’s purchasing on company credit cards or after-the-fact POs, it affects a company’s cash flow and quality of spend data.

Lhotse’s goal is to give stakeholders the UX they need to be able to use the tool without really needing any training.

We talk a little about the self-service procurement model going forward, and how procurement can follow Ikea’s model of self-service and guided buying.

The obvious benefit of bringing this data into one space and having more spend under control and managed is then the possibilities it brings to drive supplier consolidation, ultimately driving more savings and value through channeling more spend through preferred vendors.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Henning’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lhotse website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We’re back with part 2 of a 3 part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

Each podcast features a different theme, focusing on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit to bring awareness to some of the exciting new players out there who have a bright future.
<h2><strong>Hot Digital Procurement Startups which Utilise AI and Game Theory to Deliver their Solution</strong></h2>
This episode is all about startups who heavily feature AI or game theory as part of their experience and solution.
<h3>Pactum</h3>
My first guest is Fabio Herle from Pactum.

Pactum leverages AI and game theory to automate negotiations. Quite a bold claim to automate something that many procurement professionals have spent their whole careers trying to refine, improve and perfect!

Fabio explains how the German-speaking area of Europe offers both challenges and advantages in equal measure. On the one hand, Procurement is a fairly mature function and there are some world class companies, procurement functions and well-managed processes. On the other hand, it’s a more conservative business culture where resistance to change can be quite common.

While Pactum was founded in Estonia, they are actually headquartered in the US. Not because of investment but due to ease of customer acquisition in relation to Europe’s largest markets.

So, what can it do, and what are its limitations?

Fabio goes on to explain that Pactum is not able to replace a human in a complex negotiation which requires preparation, emotional intelligence and the need to maintain a strategic relationship with a critical vendor.

Instead, Pactum focuses on automating negotiations for tactical purchases where it may not be the best use of a procurement professional’s time, or where the spend would not have been previously managed by anyone in the procurement team because of the value of the transaction.

NDAs and simple payment terms “horsetrading” are two examples which Fabio cites as being prime opportunities where Pactum can add value.

The goal is that over time, it will be able to handle more complex negotiations as the AI matures. The example of being able to give counter offers and counter proposals, in a proper trading style negotiation, is an area where Fabio explains is part of Pactum’s plans as the tool matures.

Another advantage of using a machine is that it never forgets any of the details!

This is definitely one to watch and a rapidly scaling company.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabio-herle-272a545/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabio’s’ LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://pactum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pactum website</a>
<h3>MySupply</h3>
Next up is Andreas Zimmermann, CEO of MySupply.

This is an e-sourcing tool, looking at some of the more tactical areas of sourcing. Whereas most e-sourcing tools tend to focus on strategic sourcing for highly complex tenders, MySupply focuses on the more straightforward sourcing requirements.

The specific USP of MySupply is the engine behind the tender which guides it towards the right strategy e.g. should it be an auction, 3-bids-and-a-buy, simple RFP etc.

Whereas it is primarily aimed at smaller and medium-sized businesses to provide a way to affordably bring more spend under control and negotiate with suppliers that otherwise would have been unmanaged, it also functions for larger businesses too for any sourcing requirements that are not complex.

As with Pactum, this focuses on a problem that is coming more and more to the forefront. Namely, that Procurement often does not have the resources to get involved in non-strategic spend, but would like to get the savings or cost avoidance from being able to deal with this in a more automated and hands-off way.

We talk about existing tools for e-sourcing and auctions, especially the more established players, not being intuitive or user-friendly. Moreover, these tools also don’t really show or guide users towards the types of sourcing events appropriate for each specific sourcing request.

I ask Andreas about their pricing model because they are very transparent with their pricing on their website, and compared to other solutions it’s an affordable tool.

He explained that the model is to encourage users to trial the software first with complete transparency of the pricing leading into a pilot phase.

Andreas mentions that for growth they will initially concentrate on the German market but as a next logical step, it will be the wider European market and then in North America.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaszimmermann/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andreas’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://mysupply.de/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">MySupply website</a>
<h3>Lhotse</h3>
Our final interview on this episode is with Henning Hatje from Lhotse, who also was my guest on episode 5 of the Procuretech Podcast.

Henning came to the interview right after Lhotse was announced as runner-up in the startup pitch competition the previous day, so congratulations!

Lhotse is a tactical sourcing solution which uses big data and AI to make sense of all the historical requisition and PO data on the customer’s side, as well as databases that Lhotse taps into externally to additionally provide potential sources of supply for the goods or service to be purchased.

Similar to the other solutions featured on this episode, Lhotse seeks to save time and resources for procurement and enable more spend to be brought under management through shortening the source-to-PO journey.

There is so much hidden time spent on tactical purchases within all procurement teams that is not really recognised or acknowledged. Whether it’s looking at market data, supplier data, communicating with suppliers, switching systems etc.

The benefit is not only the time-saving function for procurement, however. By utilising a digital tool to bring all of this data and spend into one user-friendly interface, it also enables more spend to be managed which would otherwise have gone under the radar.

As Henning mentions, a poor user experience (UX) often means that goods and services are purchased by stakeholders who bypass the official procurement process. Whether it’s purchasing on company credit cards or after-the-fact POs, it affects a company’s cash flow and quality of spend data.

Lhotse’s goal is to give stakeholders the UX they need to be able to use the tool without really needing any training.

We talk a little about the self-service procurement model going forward, and how procurement can follow Ikea’s model of self-service and guided buying.

The obvious benefit of bringing this data into one space and having more spend under control and managed is then the possibilities it brings to drive supplier consolidation, ultimately driving more savings and value through channeling more spend through preferred vendors.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Henning’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lhotse website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">10db1279-4b94-4273-92bd-b6369979105e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6b7ba3ce-dd0c-4ec8-b2ab-609b980c9bf3/the-procuretech-podcast-the-procuretech-summit-ai-game-theo.mp3" length="32059185" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 1 – ESG and Risk Management Startups</title><itunes:title>Procurement Summit Live Sessions: Part 1 – ESG and Risk Management Startups</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[This week, we bring you the first in a 3 part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

We’ll be covering a different theme on each episode, and featuring 3 procuretech startups each week. Our focus is on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit to bring awareness to some of the exciting new players out there who are destined to grow quickly.
<h2><strong>Hot Digital Procurement and Supply Chain Startups in the ESG and Risk Management Space</strong></h2>
On this episode, we’re looking at startups whose mission is solving problems in the rapidly growing and increasingly important ESG and Risk Management area.
<h3>Shipzero</h3>
Tobias Bohnhoff, Founder of Shipzero is my first guest.

Shipzero tracks and manages transport emissions, helping freight buyers and logistics managers to have more transparency around their shipping data.

The tool essentially enables companies to make strategic decisions around two key areas of transportation procurement and logistics management:
<ol>
 	<li>Helping companies to reduce their overall transport footprint through optimisation of their freight operations.</li>
 	<li>Evaluating different case scenarios when it comes to deciding which mode of transport to use.</li>
</ol><br/>
One part of this conundrum is actually looking at where to source goods from. The increasing cost, especially of ocean freight, is making companies reconsider lengthy supply chains where historically the logistics cost was not a major factor.

Technology is now in place to enable data sharing between companies. The transportation market is very fragmented and contains a lot of smaller businesses who are not as technologically advanced as global logistics firms. Shipzero enables this data to be aggregated for the end customer.

When it comes to decarbonisation, there are also the factors of considering transportation methods powered partly or wholly by renewable energy.

Shipzero enables companies to simulate the CO2 emissions based on different transportation scenarios.

The range and payload for electric trucks is different to diesel trucks. Using a granular data stream from the telematics of the truck allows you to make the decision of which methods or lanes for transport can be switched to transportation from renewable energy sources.

Tobias mentions that any company with over €/$100 million annual turnover with significant transportation spend can benefit and see a positive payback of using the tool to optimise their transportation.

I ask Tobias how he would convince a company who doesn’t see this as a priority, to take action now rather than in a few years time. Then we round off the interview by looking at Shipzero’s plans for future growth.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-bohnhoff/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tobias’ LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.shipzero.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shipzero website</a>
<h3>Prewave</h3>
Next up is Harald Nitschinger, CEO of risk management solution Prewave.

Harald comes off the back of winning DPW’s Startup Pitch competition during their virtual conference just a few weeks ago in September. So, what’s so special about Prewave?!

Well, it’s certainly a hot topic with COVID-19, broken supply chains, the new “Lieferkettengesetz” (Supply Chain Law) coming into effect in Germany making it a topic and a solution very much in focus right now.

Supply chains have never been less transparent and have never been more complex, with large organisations having tens of thousands of suppliers all over the world. Keeping on top of all of these transactions, past, present and future, is almost impossible without the help of technology.

Potential scandals, force majeure events, natural disasters

We take the hypothetical example of a child labour scandal for a textiles retailer using a supplier in Bangladesh: how could Prewave help to identify this before the story breaks and causes brand damage to the retailer.

Harald explains the concept of “known locally, unknown globally”, where social media and more traditional news outlets in the local language can often assist in gaining insights much faster than would otherwise be possible.

Having this foresight enables the end customer to take pre-emptive action before it becomes a bigger reputational issue in the international news.

B2C manufacturing business are the obvious target customers of Prewave, but as Harald explains, there are also other industry sectors, such as logistics and some of the wider service industries, who can also benefit from this analysis.

Managing first tier suppliers is great, but how do you tackle the wider issue of the multi-tiered supply chain? Harald gives a brief example of how Prewave has helped VW Group to do this with rare earth metals.

Prewave’s pricing model is based on the number of suppliers you want to monitor, rather than a licence-based or per enterprise pricing structure. This also means that the technology is affordable to mid-sized businesses who just have a small number of critical suppliers that they want to track.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/harald-nitschinger-88488280/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Harald’s LinkedIn profile </a>

<a href="https://www.prewave.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Prewave website</a>
<h3>Carbmee</h3>
Our final interview on this episode is with procuretech veteran Prof. Christian Heinrich and his company Carbmee.

Carbmee is one of the youngest companies pitching at Procurement Summit and focuses on offsetting carbon emissions.

If a business is aiming for achieve net zero in CO2 emissions, then you have two options: pay for carbon credits OR reduce your carbon emissions. This comes in 3 different scopes.

Scope 1 and scope 2 relate to the production and manufacturing process of a business. Energy savings being a classic example of this. The problem for most firms though lies within scope 3, which, as Christian explains, refers to the supply chain.

This is where 80% of a company’s typical carbon emissions can be found, and is also where Procurement and Supply Chain would become involved to assist in reducing emissions from suppliers or transportation providers.

Where would you start? By doing a classic pareto analysis to identify which of your suppliers are the biggest threats.

Carbmee is all about bringing the collaboration with suppliers into one, digital space rather than relying on emails and Excel sheets to try to keep track of this. The software has three key features:
<ol>
 	<li>Facilitating Supply Chain Transparency</li>
 	<li>Identifying where the CO2 hotspots are in a supply chain</li>
 	<li>Tracking down and measuring the reduction of the emissions</li>
</ol><br/>
The end result (and business case) is achieving net zero faster, and thus saving money through not having to pay for carbon offset credits.

Without using software, the reliance is on emails and spreadsheets, and likely also a costly external consulting project to resource and report on this properly.

Instead, it allows Procurement and Supply Chain to lead, own and manage this in-house and gets companies to where they need to go faster. The process automation and data automation, as well as the dashboards to track the progress and success, mean that it’s easy to report out at any time.

The industry sectors where Christian sees the biggest opportunity to make an impact with Carbmee are automotive, machine building, pharmaceuticals, chemicals, shipping and logistics.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/prof-christian-heinrich-79ab3437/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Christian’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.carbmee.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Carbmee website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[This week, we bring you the first in a 3 part series of live episodes recorded at Procurement Summit in Berlin on 29 and 30 September 2021.

We’ll be covering a different theme on each episode, and featuring 3 procuretech startups each week. Our focus is on some of the newer, less well-known startups who pitched and exhibited during the summit to bring awareness to some of the exciting new players out there who are destined to grow quickly.
<h2><strong>Hot Digital Procurement and Supply Chain Startups in the ESG and Risk Management Space</strong></h2>
On this episode, we’re looking at startups whose mission is solving problems in the rapidly growing and increasingly important ESG and Risk Management area.
<h3>Shipzero</h3>
Tobias Bohnhoff, Founder of Shipzero is my first guest.

Shipzero tracks and manages transport emissions, helping freight buyers and logistics managers to have more transparency around their shipping data.

The tool essentially enables companies to make strategic decisions around two key areas of transportation procurement and logistics management:
<ol>
 	<li>Helping companies to reduce their overall transport footprint through optimisation of their freight operations.</li>
 	<li>Evaluating different case scenarios when it comes to deciding which mode of transport to use.</li>
</ol><br/>
One part of this conundrum is actually looking at where to source goods from. The increasing cost, especially of ocean freight, is making companies reconsider lengthy supply chains where historically the logistics cost was not a major factor.

Technology is now in place to enable data sharing between companies. The transportation market is very fragmented and contains a lot of smaller businesses who are not as technologically advanced as global logistics firms. Shipzero enables this data to be aggregated for the end customer.

When it comes to decarbonisation, there are also the factors of considering transportation methods powered partly or wholly by renewable energy.

Shipzero enables companies to simulate the CO2 emissions based on different transportation scenarios.

The range and payload for electric trucks is different to diesel trucks. Using a granular data stream from the telematics of the truck allows you to make the decision of which methods or lanes for transport can be switched to transportation from renewable energy sources.

Tobias mentions that any company with over €/$100 million annual turnover with significant transportation spend can benefit and see a positive payback of using the tool to optimise their transportation.

I ask Tobias how he would convince a company who doesn’t see this as a priority, to take action now rather than in a few years time. Then we round off the interview by looking at Shipzero’s plans for future growth.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-bohnhoff/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tobias’ LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.shipzero.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Shipzero website</a>
<h3>Prewave</h3>
Next up is Harald Nitschinger, CEO of risk management solution Prewave.

Harald comes off the back of winning DPW’s Startup Pitch competition during their virtual conference just a few weeks ago in September. So, what’s so special about Prewave?!

Well, it’s certainly a hot topic with COVID-19, broken supply chains, the new “Lieferkettengesetz” (Supply Chain Law) coming into effect in Germany making it a topic and a solution very much in focus right now.

Supply chains have never been less transparent and have never been more complex, with large organisations having tens of thousands of suppliers all over the world. Keeping on top of all of these transactions, past, present and future, is almost impossible without the help of technology.

Potential scandals, force majeure events, natural disasters

We take the hypothetical example of a child labour scandal for a textiles retailer using a supplier in Bangladesh: how could Prewave help to identify this before the story breaks and causes brand damage to the retailer.

Harald explains the concept of “known locally, unknown globally”, where social media and more traditional news outlets in the local language can often assist in gaining insights much faster than would otherwise be possible.

Having this foresight enables the end customer to take pre-emptive action before it becomes a bigger reputational issue in the international news.

B2C manufacturing business are the obvious target customers of Prewave, but as Harald explains, there are also other industry sectors, such as logistics and some of the wider service industries, who can also benefit from this analysis.

Managing first tier suppliers is great, but how do you tackle the wider issue of the multi-tiered supply chain? Harald gives a brief example of how Prewave has helped VW Group to do this with rare earth metals.

Prewave’s pricing model is based on the number of suppliers you want to monitor, rather than a licence-based or per enterprise pricing structure. This also means that the technology is affordable to mid-sized businesses who just have a small number of critical suppliers that they want to track.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/harald-nitschinger-88488280/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Harald’s LinkedIn profile </a>

<a href="https://www.prewave.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Prewave website</a>
<h3>Carbmee</h3>
Our final interview on this episode is with procuretech veteran Prof. Christian Heinrich and his company Carbmee.

Carbmee is one of the youngest companies pitching at Procurement Summit and focuses on offsetting carbon emissions.

If a business is aiming for achieve net zero in CO2 emissions, then you have two options: pay for carbon credits OR reduce your carbon emissions. This comes in 3 different scopes.

Scope 1 and scope 2 relate to the production and manufacturing process of a business. Energy savings being a classic example of this. The problem for most firms though lies within scope 3, which, as Christian explains, refers to the supply chain.

This is where 80% of a company’s typical carbon emissions can be found, and is also where Procurement and Supply Chain would become involved to assist in reducing emissions from suppliers or transportation providers.

Where would you start? By doing a classic pareto analysis to identify which of your suppliers are the biggest threats.

Carbmee is all about bringing the collaboration with suppliers into one, digital space rather than relying on emails and Excel sheets to try to keep track of this. The software has three key features:
<ol>
 	<li>Facilitating Supply Chain Transparency</li>
 	<li>Identifying where the CO2 hotspots are in a supply chain</li>
 	<li>Tracking down and measuring the reduction of the emissions</li>
</ol><br/>
The end result (and business case) is achieving net zero faster, and thus saving money through not having to pay for carbon offset credits.

Without using software, the reliance is on emails and spreadsheets, and likely also a costly external consulting project to resource and report on this properly.

Instead, it allows Procurement and Supply Chain to lead, own and manage this in-house and gets companies to where they need to go faster. The process automation and data automation, as well as the dashboards to track the progress and success, mean that it’s easy to report out at any time.

The industry sectors where Christian sees the biggest opportunity to make an impact with Carbmee are automotive, machine building, pharmaceuticals, chemicals, shipping and logistics.

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/prof-christian-heinrich-79ab3437/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Christian’s LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.carbmee.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Carbmee website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3be7bdf5-035e-4823-9c29-ae71de641c35</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/14a2813d-e451-4258-900f-75e6199af0c6/the-procuretech-podcast-06-procurement-summit-live-1-s2e6.mp3" length="31498702" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Simplifying Tactical and Tail Spend – Henning Hatje from Lhotse</title><itunes:title>Simplifying Tactical and Tail Spend – Henning Hatje from Lhotse</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Tactical, non-strategic spend is a time suck to pretty much every organisation, regardless of their size.

Managing this through traditional channels - i.e. ERP systems - is a cumbersome process for both the procurement professional who has to manage it, and the stakeholder who just wants a simple, user-friendly interface to be able to buy something.

Henning Hatje, Co-Founder and CEO of Berlin-based startup Lhotse is my guest on this week's show.

He explains how their solution helps to simplify tactical, non-strategic and tail spend (we look into each of these definitions during the show, too!)
<h2>Simplifying and Automating Tactical Spend</h2>
Lhotse was founded in 2020 and is growing rapidly, having recently announced a €5 million seed round funding just before the show was recorded.

The fact that such a young company has managed to secure this kind of funding is tantamount to the need for a solution on how to manage tactical and tail spend.
<h3>Deloitte's 2021 CPO Survey points towards more effective management of tactical spend</h3>
With companies under new pressure to operate leaner, smarter and faster, it's little surprise that tactical and tail spend is coming under the microscope.

Operational efficiency topped the list of most urgent priorities among those surveyed for the 2021 Deloitte CPO Survey. Finding a more productive use of buyers' time when it comes to the huge operational workload of dealing with non-strategic spend will no doubt be high on the wish list.
<h3>Tactical vs. tail spend?</h3>
There are many different definitions, and much if it is nuanced and dependent upon how different organisations see their spend.

Lhotse views "tactical spend" as:
<ul>
 	<li>Being non-managed spend by procurement</li>
 	<li>Predominantly indirect in nature</li>
</ul><br/>
Whereas they see tail spend as:
<ul>
 	<li>Also having some crossover with tactical spend</li>
 	<li>But also encompassing "managed" areas of high volume, low value spend such as certain areas of MRO spend and office supplies which are often procured using punch-out catalogues</li>
</ul><br/>
Much depends on the thresholds that companies use to define how tactical spend or tail spend is seen.
<h3>What typical policies exist for non-strategic spend?</h3>
These are some common scenarios for how non-strategic spend can fall through the cracks:
<ul>
 	<li>Spend that falls below the threshold where competitive bidding is required - i.e. three bids, then a buy - clearly has a lot of untapped opportunity. Here, essentially, stakeholders can purchase from whomever they wish.</li>
 	<li>Diligence with which a policy is enforced. Often this is dependent upon the perception or reputation of the procurement function internally, but also is heavily influenced by staffing levels within procurement teams and their (in)ability to manage all areas of spend.</li>
</ul><br/>
There are massive differences between how these thresholds are applied - from very strict, low spend thresholds right the way through to enterprise level organisations in high profit industries which can sometimes have 6-figure sums considered as tactical spend.

When it comes to other ways of handling tail or tactical spend, Integrators and Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) are still common, but as Henning explains, they can often have flaws.

It can send the wrong message to stakeholders when low value spend is farmed out to an external organisation. But more importantly, there is now technology that can automate or semi-automate large parts of these processes.

This moves the organisation away from functionally managing a BPO or an integrator and instead towards a more strategic process of researching and integrating technology into the procurement function.
<h3>Other advantages of applying technology to this problem</h3>
Henning talks about the opportunities that a solution such as Lhotse can leverage existing data in your system to automate or semi-automate:

Lhotse can integrate system data into existing processes to give relevant supplier recommendations based on internal and external data points.

Using technology can also speed up the opportunity for supplier consolidation in indirect procurement on areas of tactical and tail spend, through trained algorithms and data points.
<h3>What other areas of the source-to-pay (S2P) cycle can be automated?</h3>
The single source of truth concept, and having the data in one central repository for posterity, can naturally drive additional efficiencies:

Supplier identification - the ability to identify a potential supplier, without the need for someone with historical experience to source a vendor. It may not be 100% accurate but will guide you along the right path.

Semi-automation of requisitioning process - technology can enable the human being the purchase requisition to be much more self-sufficient and effective in how they request something. The guided sourcing possibilities which are created by the historical data as well as the additional data points from Lhotse can remove the need for a procurement professional to be involved for the large part.
<h3>What will be the end game for tactical spend?</h3>
Henning agreed with me that the move towards self-service procurement will be unstoppable. However, he sees this process being slower than many do, and sees procurement as having an integral part to play in this role.

He also explains how he feels that procurement as a function will see an increased role as people are brought on board to bring about all of this change. These roles will be rather different from the category manager roles of today.

As we move towards a self-service model, the question is whether stakeholders will see this as a positive or a negative.
<h3>The benefits for Procurement?</h3>
The likelihood is that procurement will come out of this as a more up-skilled and strategic function, but it will be a period of intense change to bring this about.

Many procurement professionals today may not necessarily possess the skills necessary to

More agile processes will very likely replace the more rigid procedures to which many procurement organisations are adhering to at present.

This should also have an impact on user experience, for both buyer and stakeholder alike, as we move to a better designed B2B software experience!
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/">Henning's LinkedIn profile</a></span></li>
 	<li><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/">Lhotse website</a></span></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Tactical, non-strategic spend is a time suck to pretty much every organisation, regardless of their size.

Managing this through traditional channels - i.e. ERP systems - is a cumbersome process for both the procurement professional who has to manage it, and the stakeholder who just wants a simple, user-friendly interface to be able to buy something.

Henning Hatje, Co-Founder and CEO of Berlin-based startup Lhotse is my guest on this week's show.

He explains how their solution helps to simplify tactical, non-strategic and tail spend (we look into each of these definitions during the show, too!)
<h2>Simplifying and Automating Tactical Spend</h2>
Lhotse was founded in 2020 and is growing rapidly, having recently announced a €5 million seed round funding just before the show was recorded.

The fact that such a young company has managed to secure this kind of funding is tantamount to the need for a solution on how to manage tactical and tail spend.
<h3>Deloitte's 2021 CPO Survey points towards more effective management of tactical spend</h3>
With companies under new pressure to operate leaner, smarter and faster, it's little surprise that tactical and tail spend is coming under the microscope.

Operational efficiency topped the list of most urgent priorities among those surveyed for the 2021 Deloitte CPO Survey. Finding a more productive use of buyers' time when it comes to the huge operational workload of dealing with non-strategic spend will no doubt be high on the wish list.
<h3>Tactical vs. tail spend?</h3>
There are many different definitions, and much if it is nuanced and dependent upon how different organisations see their spend.

Lhotse views "tactical spend" as:
<ul>
 	<li>Being non-managed spend by procurement</li>
 	<li>Predominantly indirect in nature</li>
</ul><br/>
Whereas they see tail spend as:
<ul>
 	<li>Also having some crossover with tactical spend</li>
 	<li>But also encompassing "managed" areas of high volume, low value spend such as certain areas of MRO spend and office supplies which are often procured using punch-out catalogues</li>
</ul><br/>
Much depends on the thresholds that companies use to define how tactical spend or tail spend is seen.
<h3>What typical policies exist for non-strategic spend?</h3>
These are some common scenarios for how non-strategic spend can fall through the cracks:
<ul>
 	<li>Spend that falls below the threshold where competitive bidding is required - i.e. three bids, then a buy - clearly has a lot of untapped opportunity. Here, essentially, stakeholders can purchase from whomever they wish.</li>
 	<li>Diligence with which a policy is enforced. Often this is dependent upon the perception or reputation of the procurement function internally, but also is heavily influenced by staffing levels within procurement teams and their (in)ability to manage all areas of spend.</li>
</ul><br/>
There are massive differences between how these thresholds are applied - from very strict, low spend thresholds right the way through to enterprise level organisations in high profit industries which can sometimes have 6-figure sums considered as tactical spend.

When it comes to other ways of handling tail or tactical spend, Integrators and Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) are still common, but as Henning explains, they can often have flaws.

It can send the wrong message to stakeholders when low value spend is farmed out to an external organisation. But more importantly, there is now technology that can automate or semi-automate large parts of these processes.

This moves the organisation away from functionally managing a BPO or an integrator and instead towards a more strategic process of researching and integrating technology into the procurement function.
<h3>Other advantages of applying technology to this problem</h3>
Henning talks about the opportunities that a solution such as Lhotse can leverage existing data in your system to automate or semi-automate:

Lhotse can integrate system data into existing processes to give relevant supplier recommendations based on internal and external data points.

Using technology can also speed up the opportunity for supplier consolidation in indirect procurement on areas of tactical and tail spend, through trained algorithms and data points.
<h3>What other areas of the source-to-pay (S2P) cycle can be automated?</h3>
The single source of truth concept, and having the data in one central repository for posterity, can naturally drive additional efficiencies:

Supplier identification - the ability to identify a potential supplier, without the need for someone with historical experience to source a vendor. It may not be 100% accurate but will guide you along the right path.

Semi-automation of requisitioning process - technology can enable the human being the purchase requisition to be much more self-sufficient and effective in how they request something. The guided sourcing possibilities which are created by the historical data as well as the additional data points from Lhotse can remove the need for a procurement professional to be involved for the large part.
<h3>What will be the end game for tactical spend?</h3>
Henning agreed with me that the move towards self-service procurement will be unstoppable. However, he sees this process being slower than many do, and sees procurement as having an integral part to play in this role.

He also explains how he feels that procurement as a function will see an increased role as people are brought on board to bring about all of this change. These roles will be rather different from the category manager roles of today.

As we move towards a self-service model, the question is whether stakeholders will see this as a positive or a negative.
<h3>The benefits for Procurement?</h3>
The likelihood is that procurement will come out of this as a more up-skilled and strategic function, but it will be a period of intense change to bring this about.

Many procurement professionals today may not necessarily possess the skills necessary to

More agile processes will very likely replace the more rigid procedures to which many procurement organisations are adhering to at present.

This should also have an impact on user experience, for both buyer and stakeholder alike, as we move to a better designed B2B software experience!
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hhatje/">Henning's LinkedIn profile</a></span></li>
 	<li><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="https://www.lhotse.de/en/">Lhotse website</a></span></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e196b3cf-7c02-4c6b-a54a-ea396eae2787</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6055f5c9-d4d7-496b-84fb-27097a471ecf/procuretech-henning-hatje-lhotse-s2e5.mp3" length="30104390" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI-driven Master Data Cleansing – Adriano Garibotto from Creactives</title><itunes:title>AI-driven Master Data Cleansing – Adriano Garibotto from Creactives</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[AI is a term that often scares anyone who is not familiar with the technology and the application.

In this episode, we're going to cover some of the different use cases for AI in the procurement space, and then dive into master data as a specific case study.

Adriano Garibotto, Co-Founder and Chief Sales &amp; Marketing Officer of Italian procurement data management company Creactives is my guest on this week's show to break down this not-as-scary-as-it-sounds technology!
<h2>Using AI to Clean Procurement Data</h2>
Creactives originally set out as a cost reduction consultancy for indirect procurement back in the early 2000s, focusing specifically around optimisation of MRO spend in manufacturing businesses.

The constant challenge of poor data, inaccurate or missing taxonomies and battling with free text PO descriptions is what ultimately led them down the path of creating a software business to solve this problem at scale.

Origins of what Creactives is today comes from some of the early stage AI utilised by their consultancy around 15 years ago. Together with a collaboration with the University of Verona, they then doubled down on developing a software solution which can help to classify, clean and structure complex master data from multiple ERP systems and sources.
<h3>Some examples of what AI can do in the Procurement space</h3>
AI must be applied to specific fields to provide tangible solutions. The fundamentals of procurement can be broadly classified into the following 4 questions:
<ol>
 	<li>What am I buying?</li>
 	<li>From whom do I buy?</li>
 	<li>What price am I paying?</li>
 	<li>Who is doing the buying?</li>
</ol><br/>
Answering these questions is not easy, especially in large, enterprise level organisations with legacy systems i.e. different ERP systems, multiple languages and complex supply chains.

AI can play a strategic role in the harmonisation of the data and helping to create a unique visibility. This is the fundamental building block which leads to other opportunities to use AI in the procurement space.
<h3>How can AI be leveraged as a catalyst for positive change?</h3>
Addressing resistance to technology is a change management issue, as Adriano explains. At its core, getting the right organisational structure in place is the key to success.

Data preparation historically required a large amount of work from procurement professionals. There is the classic Pareto of 80% of the time being taken doing the preparation, and only 20% conducting the actual added value activity for which the clean data is necessary.

If AI is able to do the lion's share of the 80%, this then allows strategic resources to be freed up to focus on more value-added activities which can actually implement the changes and the projects to drive the costs down, or reduce the supply chain vulnerability, or whatever the higher goal of the activity may be.

Data itself on its own doesn't intrinsically have value - it is the enabling factor that facilitates the journey to be able to deliver the value.
<h3>Is category management dead as an organisational structure?</h3>
Adriano makes a controversial - but very valid - point that the category management architecture of procurement organisations which has been dominant for the past 20 or so years will be rendered irrelevant by AI.

The way procurement teams operate in future will be beyond the category model, as a result of data being the driver of how organisations drive value in their business. Product launches and lean activities cut across numerous different categories, and the design of procurement departments must consequently adapt to this.
<h3>To what extent can AI perform data classification?</h3>
Adriano uses a nice example of comparing master data and AI solutions to motor vehicles. The more sophisticated the engine is, the more sophisticated that the fluid going into the engine needs to be.

The same applies to procurement data and the AI solution you are using to clean it. If you have very complex data, then the process to clean and categorise that data will inevitably also need to be advanced.

Data has to be seen as the foundation. The more robust your data (foundation) is, inevitably the greater the percentage of data that can be cleaned using AI and the better the process will be.
<h3>What potential is there to use AI to manage tail spend?</h3>
On the one hand, it can be argued that the small % of spend that makes up the long tail is not strategic. The law of diminishing returns applies when trying to tackle this and drive savings vs. concentrating on the few suppliers which make up the core of a business's spend.

However, where AI does come into its own is the application further downstream of being able to automate or flag issues in the procure-to-pay (P2P) process. The strain that tail suppliers cause when it comes to delivery issues, accounts problems, master data inaccuracy, quality problems etc is the invisible cost that the business doesn't see.

If automation can be applied to this part of the process, it ultimately avoids strategic procurement teams being dragged into more operational or transactional issues.

The long tail also consists of a lot of spot buying, where there is no clear pattern of historical spend. Automating or using AI for this application is harder, but also has immense value potential due to the resource-heavy nature of having to source and procure these goods and services.
<h3>How do you convince a CFO to invest in a data strategy?</h3>
Calculating the ROI is not just about classifying data and then expecting to magically see savings. It has to have an end objective or purpose in mind.

The example Creactives have developed is a vertical solution - TAM - Technical Attribute Management - to manage material and service master data that comes from multiple ERPs. This enables them to remove duplicates, and also avoid the creation of duplicates any time in the future.

Adriano explains that it is definitely possible to show ROI using this method and cites a Forrester study (link below) which analysed the model they constructed of how ROI can be calculated built around the objective of reducing inventory of raw materials and spare parts.
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriano-garibotto-1a575117/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Adriano's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://creactives.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Creactives website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://creactives.com/web/app/uploads/2020/12/The-Total-Economic-Impact-Of-Creactives-TAM.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Forrester White Paper </a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[AI is a term that often scares anyone who is not familiar with the technology and the application.

In this episode, we're going to cover some of the different use cases for AI in the procurement space, and then dive into master data as a specific case study.

Adriano Garibotto, Co-Founder and Chief Sales &amp; Marketing Officer of Italian procurement data management company Creactives is my guest on this week's show to break down this not-as-scary-as-it-sounds technology!
<h2>Using AI to Clean Procurement Data</h2>
Creactives originally set out as a cost reduction consultancy for indirect procurement back in the early 2000s, focusing specifically around optimisation of MRO spend in manufacturing businesses.

The constant challenge of poor data, inaccurate or missing taxonomies and battling with free text PO descriptions is what ultimately led them down the path of creating a software business to solve this problem at scale.

Origins of what Creactives is today comes from some of the early stage AI utilised by their consultancy around 15 years ago. Together with a collaboration with the University of Verona, they then doubled down on developing a software solution which can help to classify, clean and structure complex master data from multiple ERP systems and sources.
<h3>Some examples of what AI can do in the Procurement space</h3>
AI must be applied to specific fields to provide tangible solutions. The fundamentals of procurement can be broadly classified into the following 4 questions:
<ol>
 	<li>What am I buying?</li>
 	<li>From whom do I buy?</li>
 	<li>What price am I paying?</li>
 	<li>Who is doing the buying?</li>
</ol><br/>
Answering these questions is not easy, especially in large, enterprise level organisations with legacy systems i.e. different ERP systems, multiple languages and complex supply chains.

AI can play a strategic role in the harmonisation of the data and helping to create a unique visibility. This is the fundamental building block which leads to other opportunities to use AI in the procurement space.
<h3>How can AI be leveraged as a catalyst for positive change?</h3>
Addressing resistance to technology is a change management issue, as Adriano explains. At its core, getting the right organisational structure in place is the key to success.

Data preparation historically required a large amount of work from procurement professionals. There is the classic Pareto of 80% of the time being taken doing the preparation, and only 20% conducting the actual added value activity for which the clean data is necessary.

If AI is able to do the lion's share of the 80%, this then allows strategic resources to be freed up to focus on more value-added activities which can actually implement the changes and the projects to drive the costs down, or reduce the supply chain vulnerability, or whatever the higher goal of the activity may be.

Data itself on its own doesn't intrinsically have value - it is the enabling factor that facilitates the journey to be able to deliver the value.
<h3>Is category management dead as an organisational structure?</h3>
Adriano makes a controversial - but very valid - point that the category management architecture of procurement organisations which has been dominant for the past 20 or so years will be rendered irrelevant by AI.

The way procurement teams operate in future will be beyond the category model, as a result of data being the driver of how organisations drive value in their business. Product launches and lean activities cut across numerous different categories, and the design of procurement departments must consequently adapt to this.
<h3>To what extent can AI perform data classification?</h3>
Adriano uses a nice example of comparing master data and AI solutions to motor vehicles. The more sophisticated the engine is, the more sophisticated that the fluid going into the engine needs to be.

The same applies to procurement data and the AI solution you are using to clean it. If you have very complex data, then the process to clean and categorise that data will inevitably also need to be advanced.

Data has to be seen as the foundation. The more robust your data (foundation) is, inevitably the greater the percentage of data that can be cleaned using AI and the better the process will be.
<h3>What potential is there to use AI to manage tail spend?</h3>
On the one hand, it can be argued that the small % of spend that makes up the long tail is not strategic. The law of diminishing returns applies when trying to tackle this and drive savings vs. concentrating on the few suppliers which make up the core of a business's spend.

However, where AI does come into its own is the application further downstream of being able to automate or flag issues in the procure-to-pay (P2P) process. The strain that tail suppliers cause when it comes to delivery issues, accounts problems, master data inaccuracy, quality problems etc is the invisible cost that the business doesn't see.

If automation can be applied to this part of the process, it ultimately avoids strategic procurement teams being dragged into more operational or transactional issues.

The long tail also consists of a lot of spot buying, where there is no clear pattern of historical spend. Automating or using AI for this application is harder, but also has immense value potential due to the resource-heavy nature of having to source and procure these goods and services.
<h3>How do you convince a CFO to invest in a data strategy?</h3>
Calculating the ROI is not just about classifying data and then expecting to magically see savings. It has to have an end objective or purpose in mind.

The example Creactives have developed is a vertical solution - TAM - Technical Attribute Management - to manage material and service master data that comes from multiple ERPs. This enables them to remove duplicates, and also avoid the creation of duplicates any time in the future.

Adriano explains that it is definitely possible to show ROI using this method and cites a Forrester study (link below) which analysed the model they constructed of how ROI can be calculated built around the objective of reducing inventory of raw materials and spare parts.
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriano-garibotto-1a575117/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Adriano's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://creactives.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Creactives website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://creactives.com/web/app/uploads/2020/12/The-Total-Economic-Impact-Of-Creactives-TAM.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Forrester White Paper </a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4c6fc429-1a3b-42f4-a792-24c2bdd1ef9d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/324a9808-cf4d-4027-990a-82f16037532f/SRHQw7gjbot_xm09WKFFXveP.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/01a0ebef-f856-4b47-8bd4-8671f0ca158f/procuretech-adriano-garibotto-creactives-s2e4.mp3" length="29512560" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Real Time Supplier Collaboration w/o Emails – Sheldon Mydat from Suppeco</title><itunes:title>Real Time Supplier Collaboration w/o Emails – Sheldon Mydat from Suppeco</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Business relationships at their heart are all about people, when you put the commercials, the products or services, and the mechanism or process used to manage those relationships to one side.

Managing people-to-people relationships, whether with stakeholders or suppliers, through email chains and Excel sheets isn't particularly effective. Especially when it comes to continuity and longer term collaboration based on mutual trust.

Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco is my guest this week to walk us through how stakeholder relationships and supplier development can flourish when these relationships can be managed in one single place.
<h2>Stakeholder and Supplier Collaboration Without Emails and Excel</h2>
Emulating relationships that are based on human behaviour is tricky to do with spreadsheets and presentations.

It's highly subjective but it also is key to driving successful, incremental value. But this value often gets lost because it's unstructured.

Sheldon explains how he built a tech platform based off the back of what he's tried to build Excel formulas and macros to measure: the performance-related benefits to some of the more subjective areas of supplier relationship management (SRM).
<h3>Value Creation through a structured approach to SRM</h3>
The challenge of course is ensuring that everybody uses a given tool or process to work with SRM, instead of defaulting to type. So, what's in it for the stakeholder or the supplier to use a digital tool?

If we look at contract and spend management, we're looking at the bottom of the pyramid. But if we look at the top of the pyramid, we look at other ways to create value such as innovation, shared R&amp;D, different areas of performance management.

The result is that these activities all drive the bottom line value at the bottom of the pyramid. Creating a structure and a visibility across all of this activity is key, so as those affected can actually see it bearing fruit.

Sheldon uses "just-in-time" (JIT) as a great example of how supply chains have been primarily driven by cost savings activities rather than collaboration. Bringing stakeholders across the whole supply chain into the relationship and to actively drive value and collaborate together is the opportunity to break this cycle.
<h3>The triangle between stakeholder, supplier and procurement</h3>
Sheldon cites an article from McKinsey about how digital procurement platforms can drive incremental value of between 3% and 10% annually because of the ability to drive instant collaboration between the three points of this triangle.

Having a structured process to work on whichever activity it may be is key, and part of that process is clearly being able to work in a platform that enables this.

Monthly or quarterly business reviews are often talking shops, and can be the very thing that holds you back because they are too rigid. The savings achievable through immediate and ongoing collaboration outside of formal meetings are real.

However, the discipline and the structure to log in and actually use the platform is key to success. Sheldon explains that there is a deliberate intention not to spam users with notifications, and to have smart links in any email communication to avoid the need for users having to log in and enter a password each time to check a project.
<h3>Is there a niche or sector that real-time SRM works for best?</h3>
Community-wide engagement is key, and ensuring that everyone is aligned that any digital collaboration platform is the single source of truth is absolutely essential.

While certain sectors or departments may be better resourced and tech savvy, the fundamentals for success are always to ensure that the process of how SRM is run and administered within an organisation is the secret sauce.

Sheldon cites the construction industry as one sector which has struggled in the past with SRM, but is now starting to make considerable strides to develop this.
<h3>How to convince CFOs to invest in something that doesn't directly drive savings?</h3>
Firstly, savings expectations from the board will never go down, especially in an environment of supply chain volatility.

Suppliers are often better at collaboration and innovation than internal stakeholders, a) because they have a vested interest to be supplier of choice and b) because they see things with a fresh pair of eyes and can take their experience of how they service other customers.

Shared R&amp;D is one example Sheldon cites as being an area where some big untapped opportunities can lie. Where there is a longer term relationship and high levels of trust, these savings driven by external innovations are often passed straight through to the end customer.

While it's not necessarily directly price related, the value that something like shared R&amp;D can drive to the organisation's bottom line (through a better end product, for example) is clearly demonstrable after the fact.

Revenue or profit lost due to disruption is very likely to increase. Value driven through collaboration is a perfect opportunity to offset this.

So, in short, it's all about a change of mindset in how savings (or wider value) is recognised by the business.
<h3>Useful links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sheldon's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://suppeco.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Suppeco website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Business relationships at their heart are all about people, when you put the commercials, the products or services, and the mechanism or process used to manage those relationships to one side.

Managing people-to-people relationships, whether with stakeholders or suppliers, through email chains and Excel sheets isn't particularly effective. Especially when it comes to continuity and longer term collaboration based on mutual trust.

Sheldon Mydat, CEO of Suppeco is my guest this week to walk us through how stakeholder relationships and supplier development can flourish when these relationships can be managed in one single place.
<h2>Stakeholder and Supplier Collaboration Without Emails and Excel</h2>
Emulating relationships that are based on human behaviour is tricky to do with spreadsheets and presentations.

It's highly subjective but it also is key to driving successful, incremental value. But this value often gets lost because it's unstructured.

Sheldon explains how he built a tech platform based off the back of what he's tried to build Excel formulas and macros to measure: the performance-related benefits to some of the more subjective areas of supplier relationship management (SRM).
<h3>Value Creation through a structured approach to SRM</h3>
The challenge of course is ensuring that everybody uses a given tool or process to work with SRM, instead of defaulting to type. So, what's in it for the stakeholder or the supplier to use a digital tool?

If we look at contract and spend management, we're looking at the bottom of the pyramid. But if we look at the top of the pyramid, we look at other ways to create value such as innovation, shared R&amp;D, different areas of performance management.

The result is that these activities all drive the bottom line value at the bottom of the pyramid. Creating a structure and a visibility across all of this activity is key, so as those affected can actually see it bearing fruit.

Sheldon uses "just-in-time" (JIT) as a great example of how supply chains have been primarily driven by cost savings activities rather than collaboration. Bringing stakeholders across the whole supply chain into the relationship and to actively drive value and collaborate together is the opportunity to break this cycle.
<h3>The triangle between stakeholder, supplier and procurement</h3>
Sheldon cites an article from McKinsey about how digital procurement platforms can drive incremental value of between 3% and 10% annually because of the ability to drive instant collaboration between the three points of this triangle.

Having a structured process to work on whichever activity it may be is key, and part of that process is clearly being able to work in a platform that enables this.

Monthly or quarterly business reviews are often talking shops, and can be the very thing that holds you back because they are too rigid. The savings achievable through immediate and ongoing collaboration outside of formal meetings are real.

However, the discipline and the structure to log in and actually use the platform is key to success. Sheldon explains that there is a deliberate intention not to spam users with notifications, and to have smart links in any email communication to avoid the need for users having to log in and enter a password each time to check a project.
<h3>Is there a niche or sector that real-time SRM works for best?</h3>
Community-wide engagement is key, and ensuring that everyone is aligned that any digital collaboration platform is the single source of truth is absolutely essential.

While certain sectors or departments may be better resourced and tech savvy, the fundamentals for success are always to ensure that the process of how SRM is run and administered within an organisation is the secret sauce.

Sheldon cites the construction industry as one sector which has struggled in the past with SRM, but is now starting to make considerable strides to develop this.
<h3>How to convince CFOs to invest in something that doesn't directly drive savings?</h3>
Firstly, savings expectations from the board will never go down, especially in an environment of supply chain volatility.

Suppliers are often better at collaboration and innovation than internal stakeholders, a) because they have a vested interest to be supplier of choice and b) because they see things with a fresh pair of eyes and can take their experience of how they service other customers.

Shared R&amp;D is one example Sheldon cites as being an area where some big untapped opportunities can lie. Where there is a longer term relationship and high levels of trust, these savings driven by external innovations are often passed straight through to the end customer.

While it's not necessarily directly price related, the value that something like shared R&amp;D can drive to the organisation's bottom line (through a better end product, for example) is clearly demonstrable after the fact.

Revenue or profit lost due to disruption is very likely to increase. Value driven through collaboration is a perfect opportunity to offset this.

So, in short, it's all about a change of mindset in how savings (or wider value) is recognised by the business.
<h3>Useful links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldonmydat/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sheldon's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://suppeco.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Suppeco website</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e2749b78-af70-4a72-8145-2d3388dca69f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8eb83fec-58ec-41ef-9285-6f633c7e59a3/IsKFnJQvbKpCc4438jR25cs8.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3adab515-df3f-4430-a931-514a7aea3ae8/procuretech-sheldon-mydat-suppeco-s2e3.mp3" length="28668700" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Managing Services: Both Strategic and Tail Spend – Fabian Heinrich from Mercanis</title><itunes:title>Managing Services: Both Strategic and Tail Spend – Fabian Heinrich from Mercanis</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Historically, there wasn't much technology out there to deal with indirect services spend, both from a sourcing and supplier contract lifecycle management perspective.

This has started to change recently. But is it possible to manage both strategic, corporate level service agreements as well as more tactical, tail spend and one-time buys all in the same platform?

My guest on this week's podcast is Fabian Heinrich from Berlin-based startup Mercanis. They claim to have a solution for both. We dive into this and find out to what extent their platform can support these requirements.
<h2>SRM for Services: Managing both Strategic and Tail Spend</h2>
Procurement volumes have massively shifted from goods to services over the past 10 years, as young tech companies have grown into major corporate entities.

Furthermore, IT and marketing have become increasingly important categories and now account for significantly more spend than they used to.
<h3>How are the sourcing requirements for services different from goods?</h3>
A services e-sourcing platform needs to be more flexible, due to the very diverse range of products being purchased under the different types of services.

Workflows are different in many cases, depending on the type of services and the type of contracts being sourced. Subcategories can often be varied and diverse, and taxonomies are much more difficult to apply to services spend.

What's more, the stakeholder collaboration and the level of the relationship between procurement and their internal business partners by necessity requires much more focus during the end-to-end sourcing process.
<h3>Managing the lifecycle of services spend and its complexity</h3>
I asked Fabian about how to ensure that the lifecycle of services procurement is reflected, and some of the important characteristics that need to be monitored and taken into consideration.

There's the classic trap of having a corporate procurement team negotiate a central or global contract that then ends up on Sharepoint or on a C-Drive that nobody in satellite locations knows about. Stakeholders and local buyers then just continue doing whatever they've always done!

Fabian explained that a sourcing tool for services wasn't enough, and that some features from an SRM or contract lifecycle system were necessary to ensure that it was a rounded platform to satisfy the needs further downstream.
<h3>The "self-service" model for tactical purchasing and one-time buys</h3>
Just like catalogues have been common for buying tail spend on indirect goods e.g. MRO and office supplies, a guided buying process to enable stakeholders to "self-serve" themselves on smaller, less strategic purchases or one-time buys is a feature Mercanis realised was absolutely essential.

If one of the goals is to free strategic procurement teams from the day-to-day operational work of sourcing non-repeatable requirements and low spend, high volume items, then something similar to how this works for goods would need to be part of the user experience.
<h3>How to avoid maverick spend for local, site level purchases</h3>
Strategic spend is (usually) well managed within larger organisations. The problem generally comes once you get down to the decentralised areas of spend. These are often categories or suppliers managed at country or local level.

Mercanis has enabled the end users through guided buying to have a better user experience when seeking to buy services locally. This enables the end user to buy from compliant sources, and to find a supplier faster, than having to go through this process in an analogue (Google search and email) RFQ.

The other advantage from a procurement perspective is that this frees up resources in strategic procurement teams to focus on the activities which have the most business impact.
<h3>What preparation is necessary to ensure success with a digital services procurement platform?</h3>
Like most things in life, you get out from it what you put in. With digital procurement software, this is especially true.

Fabian makes two really crucial comments here:
<ul>
 	<li>Mercanis isn't a magic solution that provides a process map with clean data of how to take forward services procurement within any organisation.</li>
 	<li>Using AI is a bit like raising a child - you need to teach it, nurture it and feed it the right things to get the best results.</li>
</ul><br/>
The platform itself is a tool which helps you get there, but what you input and how you manage the category strategies and stakeholders in a more holistic view will be critical to getting the most out of the tool.
<h3>What about data, taxonomy and categorisation?</h3>
If a process is analogue and is processed through email and Excel, it's much more difficult to get good spend data because in most cases you're relying on what's in the ERP system.

Purchase data from ERP systems is usually broken because it's dependent upon the free text description given by a requisitioner. If they just enter something illegible such as "quote 123 from Bob Smith at Supplier A", then you have no idea what this is for.

Having everything in a digital platform in one space, with quotes, supplier communication and scope of work in one single source of truth clearly gives the procurement professional a big advantage when it comes to improving the quality of spend data.
<h3>Profile of typical leads and customers for Mercanis</h3>
It was interesting to hear that Mercanis is attracting 2 fairly distinct buckets of customers:
<ul>
 	<li>Fortune 1000 and Fortune 2000 companies of around $5 billion turnover and upwards.</li>
 	<li>Service-based companies below $3 billion who are not manufacturing anything and as such, have very large spends on services and not so many legacy systems.</li>
</ul><br/>
This just goes to show that both at enterprise level but also for larger mid-cap businesses, there is a lot of historical services spend which has not been managed particularly well.
<h3>[mailerlite_form form_id=3]</h3>
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.mercanis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mercanis website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:fabian@mercanis.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's email address</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianheinrich/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Historically, there wasn't much technology out there to deal with indirect services spend, both from a sourcing and supplier contract lifecycle management perspective.

This has started to change recently. But is it possible to manage both strategic, corporate level service agreements as well as more tactical, tail spend and one-time buys all in the same platform?

My guest on this week's podcast is Fabian Heinrich from Berlin-based startup Mercanis. They claim to have a solution for both. We dive into this and find out to what extent their platform can support these requirements.
<h2>SRM for Services: Managing both Strategic and Tail Spend</h2>
Procurement volumes have massively shifted from goods to services over the past 10 years, as young tech companies have grown into major corporate entities.

Furthermore, IT and marketing have become increasingly important categories and now account for significantly more spend than they used to.
<h3>How are the sourcing requirements for services different from goods?</h3>
A services e-sourcing platform needs to be more flexible, due to the very diverse range of products being purchased under the different types of services.

Workflows are different in many cases, depending on the type of services and the type of contracts being sourced. Subcategories can often be varied and diverse, and taxonomies are much more difficult to apply to services spend.

What's more, the stakeholder collaboration and the level of the relationship between procurement and their internal business partners by necessity requires much more focus during the end-to-end sourcing process.
<h3>Managing the lifecycle of services spend and its complexity</h3>
I asked Fabian about how to ensure that the lifecycle of services procurement is reflected, and some of the important characteristics that need to be monitored and taken into consideration.

There's the classic trap of having a corporate procurement team negotiate a central or global contract that then ends up on Sharepoint or on a C-Drive that nobody in satellite locations knows about. Stakeholders and local buyers then just continue doing whatever they've always done!

Fabian explained that a sourcing tool for services wasn't enough, and that some features from an SRM or contract lifecycle system were necessary to ensure that it was a rounded platform to satisfy the needs further downstream.
<h3>The "self-service" model for tactical purchasing and one-time buys</h3>
Just like catalogues have been common for buying tail spend on indirect goods e.g. MRO and office supplies, a guided buying process to enable stakeholders to "self-serve" themselves on smaller, less strategic purchases or one-time buys is a feature Mercanis realised was absolutely essential.

If one of the goals is to free strategic procurement teams from the day-to-day operational work of sourcing non-repeatable requirements and low spend, high volume items, then something similar to how this works for goods would need to be part of the user experience.
<h3>How to avoid maverick spend for local, site level purchases</h3>
Strategic spend is (usually) well managed within larger organisations. The problem generally comes once you get down to the decentralised areas of spend. These are often categories or suppliers managed at country or local level.

Mercanis has enabled the end users through guided buying to have a better user experience when seeking to buy services locally. This enables the end user to buy from compliant sources, and to find a supplier faster, than having to go through this process in an analogue (Google search and email) RFQ.

The other advantage from a procurement perspective is that this frees up resources in strategic procurement teams to focus on the activities which have the most business impact.
<h3>What preparation is necessary to ensure success with a digital services procurement platform?</h3>
Like most things in life, you get out from it what you put in. With digital procurement software, this is especially true.

Fabian makes two really crucial comments here:
<ul>
 	<li>Mercanis isn't a magic solution that provides a process map with clean data of how to take forward services procurement within any organisation.</li>
 	<li>Using AI is a bit like raising a child - you need to teach it, nurture it and feed it the right things to get the best results.</li>
</ul><br/>
The platform itself is a tool which helps you get there, but what you input and how you manage the category strategies and stakeholders in a more holistic view will be critical to getting the most out of the tool.
<h3>What about data, taxonomy and categorisation?</h3>
If a process is analogue and is processed through email and Excel, it's much more difficult to get good spend data because in most cases you're relying on what's in the ERP system.

Purchase data from ERP systems is usually broken because it's dependent upon the free text description given by a requisitioner. If they just enter something illegible such as "quote 123 from Bob Smith at Supplier A", then you have no idea what this is for.

Having everything in a digital platform in one space, with quotes, supplier communication and scope of work in one single source of truth clearly gives the procurement professional a big advantage when it comes to improving the quality of spend data.
<h3>Profile of typical leads and customers for Mercanis</h3>
It was interesting to hear that Mercanis is attracting 2 fairly distinct buckets of customers:
<ul>
 	<li>Fortune 1000 and Fortune 2000 companies of around $5 billion turnover and upwards.</li>
 	<li>Service-based companies below $3 billion who are not manufacturing anything and as such, have very large spends on services and not so many legacy systems.</li>
</ul><br/>
This just goes to show that both at enterprise level but also for larger mid-cap businesses, there is a lot of historical services spend which has not been managed particularly well.
<h3>[mailerlite_form form_id=3]</h3>
<h3>Useful Links</h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.mercanis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mercanis website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:fabian@mercanis.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's email address</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianheinrich/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fabian's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b44b959b-fa11-4fe6-bd65-595da7a0e9c5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e99e4e79-4b9d-4d99-80d0-3782923bebe2/ds79CJgbyJ9wZbScXOsnvpHw.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/98e29d50-be6d-407d-abb4-82473dd8dcb0/procuretech-fabian-heinrich-mercanis-s2e2.mp3" length="23789445" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Importance of Subjective KPIs in SRM – Lars Kuch from LeanLinking</title><itunes:title>Importance of Subjective KPIs in SRM – Lars Kuch from LeanLinking</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We're BACK!

We kick off series 2 of The Procuretech Podcast with with a mini-series examining three different Supplier Relationship Management platforms.

The first one we're taking a closer look at is Danish startup LeanLinking, and my guest on this week's show is their CEO, Lars Kuch Pedersen.
<h2>Why supplier performance data can't just be measured in hard KPIs</h2>
Lars begins by explaining how he came to set up LeanLinking following a successful career in procurement as a Regional Category Manager for a pan-European hardware retailer.

One of the problems he was commonly faced with during his career in procurement was being on the other side of the table to Account Managers from his suppliers who almost always had better data on him as a customer than he did on them as a supplier.

Was the company generally happy with the supplier's performance? Was quality performance acceptable? Were they easy to deal with when it came to scheduling deliveries or accuracy of invoices? How responsive were they when there were quality or delivery problems? The truth was, other than asking every single stakeholder individually, by email, he had no way of knowing.

Lars quickly realised that he was far from alone with this problem. Most large companies don't have good supplier performance data outside of the standard on-time-in-full (OTIF) measurements.
<h3><strong>Hard vs. soft performance data</strong></h3>
Spend data and delivery performance data is (relatively) easy to get hold of. In most companies, quality data can also be extracted from ERP systems.

The challenges come when it comes to more subjective, "soft" data around performance. How do you measure that in an ERP system or in supplier performance KPIs? Without surveying stakeholders individually, it's extremely difficult. How do you measure hard data for ease of cooperation, responsiveness of suppliers?

Some categories of spend make it harder to track Service Level Agreements (SLAs) or KPIs. How do you track the performance of a marketing agency? Much trickier than measuring the performance of a raw materials vendor.
<h4><strong>Managing performance of direct vs. indirect suppliers</strong></h4>
You can't measure OTIF and corrective action incidents on indirect spend like you can on raw materials. Here, you're much more reliant on nurturing and collecting stakeholder feedback as part of the supplier review and SRM process.

What are the concrete problems that need to be overcome to improve the overall cooperation with a supplier? These are often not visible when looking at hard KPIs.
<h4><strong>Not doing proper SRM = value leakage</strong></h4>
If you're not constructively measuring supplier performance, you're missing out on driving value. What is the cost of poor supplier relationships?

Yes, it's difficult to put a cost on, but not doing it is leaving opportunities on the table. Non-conformance reports or a ticketing system can be managed within LeanLinking. For example, a storesperson can raise non-conformance tickets for packaging issues, or incomplete deliveries of spare parts.
<h4><strong>What about SRM through ERP systems or enterprise level all-in-one Procurement suites?</strong></h4>
Lars explains how ERPs are not really built with Procurement in mind and don't offer the opportunity to measure supplier performance. SAP for example have acknowledged this and are opening up their interface to integrate best-of-breed procurement solutions as a compatible add-on to their ERP suite.

Likewise, the major enterprise level suites for managing procurement are more focused on Source-to-Pay and don't really touch 360° supplier relationship management. Scorecarding and sharing agendas with stakeholders and suppliers to increase collaboration is not a feature built into these systems.
<h4><strong>How do "growth" sectors benefit from SRM if cost is not a major focus?</strong></h4>
In sectors such as tech and pharma, Lars explains that there is less focus on cost savings and more focus on value creation within procurement when it comes to supplier innovation and collaboration.

Their SRM strategy is going to place more emphasis on speed to market or enablement to help them scale, since this is what allows them to increase their revenue and grow, and in turn this makes them more profitable. Or in the case of startups, it allows them to grow more users and to break even faster.
<h4><strong>What are Lars's 3 tips of building an SRM strategy?</strong></h4>
<ol>
 	<li>What are the objectives of using an SRM program? Ensure you have top management buy-in as part of this.</li>
 	<li>Perform a supplier segmentation and define how you wish to handle SRM with each of these different segments. Strategic suppliers will require a different approach to tactical or tail suppliers.</li>
 	<li>Organisational structure: Take a real fresh look at your organisation. Does the category approach fit? Or is it a better approach to split sourcing and onboarding from ongoing category management (in a similar way to sales splits Business Development from Key Account Management)</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><strong>Useful Links</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://leanlinking.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LeanLinking website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/larskuch/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><u>Lars' LinkedIn Profile</u></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We're BACK!

We kick off series 2 of The Procuretech Podcast with with a mini-series examining three different Supplier Relationship Management platforms.

The first one we're taking a closer look at is Danish startup LeanLinking, and my guest on this week's show is their CEO, Lars Kuch Pedersen.
<h2>Why supplier performance data can't just be measured in hard KPIs</h2>
Lars begins by explaining how he came to set up LeanLinking following a successful career in procurement as a Regional Category Manager for a pan-European hardware retailer.

One of the problems he was commonly faced with during his career in procurement was being on the other side of the table to Account Managers from his suppliers who almost always had better data on him as a customer than he did on them as a supplier.

Was the company generally happy with the supplier's performance? Was quality performance acceptable? Were they easy to deal with when it came to scheduling deliveries or accuracy of invoices? How responsive were they when there were quality or delivery problems? The truth was, other than asking every single stakeholder individually, by email, he had no way of knowing.

Lars quickly realised that he was far from alone with this problem. Most large companies don't have good supplier performance data outside of the standard on-time-in-full (OTIF) measurements.
<h3><strong>Hard vs. soft performance data</strong></h3>
Spend data and delivery performance data is (relatively) easy to get hold of. In most companies, quality data can also be extracted from ERP systems.

The challenges come when it comes to more subjective, "soft" data around performance. How do you measure that in an ERP system or in supplier performance KPIs? Without surveying stakeholders individually, it's extremely difficult. How do you measure hard data for ease of cooperation, responsiveness of suppliers?

Some categories of spend make it harder to track Service Level Agreements (SLAs) or KPIs. How do you track the performance of a marketing agency? Much trickier than measuring the performance of a raw materials vendor.
<h4><strong>Managing performance of direct vs. indirect suppliers</strong></h4>
You can't measure OTIF and corrective action incidents on indirect spend like you can on raw materials. Here, you're much more reliant on nurturing and collecting stakeholder feedback as part of the supplier review and SRM process.

What are the concrete problems that need to be overcome to improve the overall cooperation with a supplier? These are often not visible when looking at hard KPIs.
<h4><strong>Not doing proper SRM = value leakage</strong></h4>
If you're not constructively measuring supplier performance, you're missing out on driving value. What is the cost of poor supplier relationships?

Yes, it's difficult to put a cost on, but not doing it is leaving opportunities on the table. Non-conformance reports or a ticketing system can be managed within LeanLinking. For example, a storesperson can raise non-conformance tickets for packaging issues, or incomplete deliveries of spare parts.
<h4><strong>What about SRM through ERP systems or enterprise level all-in-one Procurement suites?</strong></h4>
Lars explains how ERPs are not really built with Procurement in mind and don't offer the opportunity to measure supplier performance. SAP for example have acknowledged this and are opening up their interface to integrate best-of-breed procurement solutions as a compatible add-on to their ERP suite.

Likewise, the major enterprise level suites for managing procurement are more focused on Source-to-Pay and don't really touch 360° supplier relationship management. Scorecarding and sharing agendas with stakeholders and suppliers to increase collaboration is not a feature built into these systems.
<h4><strong>How do "growth" sectors benefit from SRM if cost is not a major focus?</strong></h4>
In sectors such as tech and pharma, Lars explains that there is less focus on cost savings and more focus on value creation within procurement when it comes to supplier innovation and collaboration.

Their SRM strategy is going to place more emphasis on speed to market or enablement to help them scale, since this is what allows them to increase their revenue and grow, and in turn this makes them more profitable. Or in the case of startups, it allows them to grow more users and to break even faster.
<h4><strong>What are Lars's 3 tips of building an SRM strategy?</strong></h4>
<ol>
 	<li>What are the objectives of using an SRM program? Ensure you have top management buy-in as part of this.</li>
 	<li>Perform a supplier segmentation and define how you wish to handle SRM with each of these different segments. Strategic suppliers will require a different approach to tactical or tail suppliers.</li>
 	<li>Organisational structure: Take a real fresh look at your organisation. Does the category approach fit? Or is it a better approach to split sourcing and onboarding from ongoing category management (in a similar way to sales splits Business Development from Key Account Management)</li>
</ol><br/>
<h3><strong>Useful Links</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://leanlinking.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LeanLinking website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/larskuch/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><u>Lars' LinkedIn Profile</u></a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3175208e-f715-4ccd-9c47-55d39976ac63</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/29547688-6555-48e7-894c-e7325e59bfe8/h7TTP4yQCb_G9otmWHGcQo6_.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e57d0354-104d-4714-9735-32c06372eda2/procuretech-lars-kuch-leanlinking-s2e1.mp3" length="25422411" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>E-Sourcing, AI and Game Theory – Edmund Zagorin from Bid Ops</title><itunes:title>E-Sourcing, AI and Game Theory - Edmund Zagorin from Bid Ops</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Innovation never stops. Alongside the tools that are making manual processes digital, there are also a new breed of tools which are fundamentally changing the way we go about our job.

How we structure and carry out tenders hasn’t really changed much over the last 20 years. E-sourcing tools have been around since the late 1990s, and have been pretty mainstream for the past 15 or so years (I used them myself way back in 2003)!

There are a lot of cool apps out there that are disrupting the old-school world of procurement. One of these concentrates on simplifying, shortening and using game theory to influence the outcome of sourcing activities.

Bid Ops was recognised for its disruptive contribution to the procuretech space when it won Best Startup award at the 2019 Digital Procurement World conference in Amsterdam.

This week, I interview Founder and CEO Edmund Zagorin on how they’ve grown, how Covid-19 has changed the landscape and how they’re growing despite cuts to procurement and IT budgets through an innovative business model that delivers value from day 1 to their client base.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Making e-Sourcing Faster and More Effective using AI and Game Theory: Edmund Zagorin from Bid Ops</strong></h2>
2:09

Bid Ops recently won the best startup award at DPW 2019.

So, has that propelled growth for BidOps, or is it more down to Covid-19 and everyone needing to deliver more, faster, and with fewer resources?

5:42

I ask Edmund how does BidOps differentiates itself from a standard eSourcing tool e.g. SAP Ariba for large organisations, or MarketDojo and RFP360 as a more accessible, cloud based solution for all businesses.

We talk about “Best-in-Breed” cloud based solutions and how the “unbundling" of procurement tech is niching down into more specific applications focusing on one specific area.

12:47

BidOps straddles the two niches of being an eSourcing tool and also a platform to utilise AI for simulation of negotiations. I ask Edmund what he sees as being the biggest challenge here, and whether he sees a move-away from more traditional ERP systems for managing RFQs and tenders.

Edmund’s answer about using technology for Sourcing versus using it for P2P optimisation is an interesting insight. Sourcing offers so many opportunities beyond traditional automation and digitisation of operational and transactional practices.

18:15

Budgets are tight right now, so I ask Edmund to tell us a little about how Bid Ops has tried to combat this with a more innovative pricing model.

23:00

It’s a bit of a hornet’s nets from a legal perspective when you work on a gain share model. How does one prove a saving? Because not everything has a last paid price…

25:58

Edmund talks about having to do more with less, and how using gain share to enable immediate implementation of a solution without a lengthy budget approval process is allowing teams to drive results faster. Especially in times where headcount and budgetary constraints are a very real issue for many procurement teams.

27:07

How to deal with sceptics: how is Bid Ops able to distinguish and differente itself from some of the more traditional e-sourcing tools which some of us in the procurement space have had a love/hate relationship with over the years?

There’s a great discussion here about how mutually de-risking the first quote and using game theory in negotiations can lead to a more successful (and shorter, more convenient) outcome from sourcing tenders.

32:17

Finally, I ask Edmund the best way to get in touch to learn more about Bid Ops.

If you’re interested in giving this tool a try, as a certified partner I can also help you learn more about what it can do and connect you to the Bid Ops team for a demo.

<strong>How to connect with Edmund:</strong>

<a href="https://bidops.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Bid Ops website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmund-zagorin-41291b13/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Edmund's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="mailto:edmund@bidops.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Send Edmund an Email</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Innovation never stops. Alongside the tools that are making manual processes digital, there are also a new breed of tools which are fundamentally changing the way we go about our job.

How we structure and carry out tenders hasn’t really changed much over the last 20 years. E-sourcing tools have been around since the late 1990s, and have been pretty mainstream for the past 15 or so years (I used them myself way back in 2003)!

There are a lot of cool apps out there that are disrupting the old-school world of procurement. One of these concentrates on simplifying, shortening and using game theory to influence the outcome of sourcing activities.

Bid Ops was recognised for its disruptive contribution to the procuretech space when it won Best Startup award at the 2019 Digital Procurement World conference in Amsterdam.

This week, I interview Founder and CEO Edmund Zagorin on how they’ve grown, how Covid-19 has changed the landscape and how they’re growing despite cuts to procurement and IT budgets through an innovative business model that delivers value from day 1 to their client base.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Making e-Sourcing Faster and More Effective using AI and Game Theory: Edmund Zagorin from Bid Ops</strong></h2>
2:09

Bid Ops recently won the best startup award at DPW 2019.

So, has that propelled growth for BidOps, or is it more down to Covid-19 and everyone needing to deliver more, faster, and with fewer resources?

5:42

I ask Edmund how does BidOps differentiates itself from a standard eSourcing tool e.g. SAP Ariba for large organisations, or MarketDojo and RFP360 as a more accessible, cloud based solution for all businesses.

We talk about “Best-in-Breed” cloud based solutions and how the “unbundling" of procurement tech is niching down into more specific applications focusing on one specific area.

12:47

BidOps straddles the two niches of being an eSourcing tool and also a platform to utilise AI for simulation of negotiations. I ask Edmund what he sees as being the biggest challenge here, and whether he sees a move-away from more traditional ERP systems for managing RFQs and tenders.

Edmund’s answer about using technology for Sourcing versus using it for P2P optimisation is an interesting insight. Sourcing offers so many opportunities beyond traditional automation and digitisation of operational and transactional practices.

18:15

Budgets are tight right now, so I ask Edmund to tell us a little about how Bid Ops has tried to combat this with a more innovative pricing model.

23:00

It’s a bit of a hornet’s nets from a legal perspective when you work on a gain share model. How does one prove a saving? Because not everything has a last paid price…

25:58

Edmund talks about having to do more with less, and how using gain share to enable immediate implementation of a solution without a lengthy budget approval process is allowing teams to drive results faster. Especially in times where headcount and budgetary constraints are a very real issue for many procurement teams.

27:07

How to deal with sceptics: how is Bid Ops able to distinguish and differente itself from some of the more traditional e-sourcing tools which some of us in the procurement space have had a love/hate relationship with over the years?

There’s a great discussion here about how mutually de-risking the first quote and using game theory in negotiations can lead to a more successful (and shorter, more convenient) outcome from sourcing tenders.

32:17

Finally, I ask Edmund the best way to get in touch to learn more about Bid Ops.

If you’re interested in giving this tool a try, as a certified partner I can also help you learn more about what it can do and connect you to the Bid Ops team for a demo.

<strong>How to connect with Edmund:</strong>

<a href="https://bidops.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Bid Ops website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmund-zagorin-41291b13/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Edmund's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="mailto:edmund@bidops.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Send Edmund an Email</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a92e44a4-f173-4acc-93ad-8473302fc58e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2020 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bac865c4-ba0b-4313-8a7e-4bc05dbd87ad/episode-25-edmund-zagorin.mp3" length="69626068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Increasing Day-to-Day Productivity – Richard Sains from Acada</title><itunes:title>Increasing Day-to-Day Productivity – Richard Sains from Acada</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[There are lots of options out there for software to facilitate and digitise our P2P processes, perform e-sourcing or manage our contracts more effectively.

However, the surprising omission up until recently was having something that gets us out of our inboxes. Procurement still relies heavily on email, and the volume we receive means that important stuff can easily be missed.

Storing Excel and Word documents, as well as project updates and meeting minutes on Sharepoint was able to do that to a certain extent. But let's be honest, Sharepoint's interface is pretty clunky. It's also difficult to find stuff on there unless you've got an experienced administrator.

The solution? One answer is to have a cloud-based SaaS app which shares project updates, stakeholder and supplier communication and delivery objectives all in one space.

That's what Richard Sains, my guest today, has developed. He's one of the growing contingent of former procurement professionals turned procuretech entrepreneurs!

! Note - my audio is a bit sketchy on this one due to me recording this outside of my usual podcasting space.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Improving our Productivity for Day-to-Day Communuication and Project Management: Richard Sains from Acada</strong></h2>
1:43

Rich explains what ultimately drove him to make the switch from being a category manager to a SaaS entrepreneur.

4:54

We discuss the biggest changes over the last 5 or so years in terms of developments in the procuretech space, and how the continuing trend seems to be the faster, leaner, more agile tools that are “best-in-breed” modular, niche solutions.

With this comes some unique challenges in terms of integrating all of these together to get them to communicate, but technology is evolving to deal with this.

Swapping things out and replacing them one-by-one makes it easier to upgrade on a modular basis rather than a major IT project each time there is an upgrade.

7:52

I ask Rich what he sees as the most common forms of waste or inefficiency in procurement teams and to what extent he sees automation or technology as the solution to combat some of these challenges?

12:01

Some inefficiencies of existing working practices will have been laid bare as a result of Covid-19 and the immediate shift in many cases to remote work. What therefore are the biggest challenges to larger organisations if we assume remote work in some form is here to stay?

14:24

Should technology be seen as a facilitator or productivity enabler? Or will it completely replace some manual tasks in their entirety and eliminate some operational or tactical procurement roles?

18:32

Rich in his own words describes Acada as an innovative system for procurement people to manage their workload and give visibility to their leaders and stakeholders. He expands on what he means by this here.

22:29

There are overlaps and similarities to some of the other tools out there, a couple of them have even been on the show. I’m thinking specifically Tarmo from ProcurementFlow (Episode 2) and Pierre from Per Angusta (Episode 13). Rich explains any specific inefficiencies or value adds that he feels Acada solves, that other SaaS tools in the procurement tech space can’t do.<strong> </strong>

25:56

Acada is a pretty new tool compared to some of the other solutions out there, so what are their next steps in terms of growth or development?

28:12

Rich walks through the business case of if I was a CFO, how would he convince me to buy Acada as a tool?

<strong>How to connect with Richard:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsains/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Richard's LinkedIn Profile</a>

<a href="mailto:rich@acadatech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Send Richard an email</a>

<a href="https://www.acadatech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Acada website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[There are lots of options out there for software to facilitate and digitise our P2P processes, perform e-sourcing or manage our contracts more effectively.

However, the surprising omission up until recently was having something that gets us out of our inboxes. Procurement still relies heavily on email, and the volume we receive means that important stuff can easily be missed.

Storing Excel and Word documents, as well as project updates and meeting minutes on Sharepoint was able to do that to a certain extent. But let's be honest, Sharepoint's interface is pretty clunky. It's also difficult to find stuff on there unless you've got an experienced administrator.

The solution? One answer is to have a cloud-based SaaS app which shares project updates, stakeholder and supplier communication and delivery objectives all in one space.

That's what Richard Sains, my guest today, has developed. He's one of the growing contingent of former procurement professionals turned procuretech entrepreneurs!

! Note - my audio is a bit sketchy on this one due to me recording this outside of my usual podcasting space.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Improving our Productivity for Day-to-Day Communuication and Project Management: Richard Sains from Acada</strong></h2>
1:43

Rich explains what ultimately drove him to make the switch from being a category manager to a SaaS entrepreneur.

4:54

We discuss the biggest changes over the last 5 or so years in terms of developments in the procuretech space, and how the continuing trend seems to be the faster, leaner, more agile tools that are “best-in-breed” modular, niche solutions.

With this comes some unique challenges in terms of integrating all of these together to get them to communicate, but technology is evolving to deal with this.

Swapping things out and replacing them one-by-one makes it easier to upgrade on a modular basis rather than a major IT project each time there is an upgrade.

7:52

I ask Rich what he sees as the most common forms of waste or inefficiency in procurement teams and to what extent he sees automation or technology as the solution to combat some of these challenges?

12:01

Some inefficiencies of existing working practices will have been laid bare as a result of Covid-19 and the immediate shift in many cases to remote work. What therefore are the biggest challenges to larger organisations if we assume remote work in some form is here to stay?

14:24

Should technology be seen as a facilitator or productivity enabler? Or will it completely replace some manual tasks in their entirety and eliminate some operational or tactical procurement roles?

18:32

Rich in his own words describes Acada as an innovative system for procurement people to manage their workload and give visibility to their leaders and stakeholders. He expands on what he means by this here.

22:29

There are overlaps and similarities to some of the other tools out there, a couple of them have even been on the show. I’m thinking specifically Tarmo from ProcurementFlow (Episode 2) and Pierre from Per Angusta (Episode 13). Rich explains any specific inefficiencies or value adds that he feels Acada solves, that other SaaS tools in the procurement tech space can’t do.<strong> </strong>

25:56

Acada is a pretty new tool compared to some of the other solutions out there, so what are their next steps in terms of growth or development?

28:12

Rich walks through the business case of if I was a CFO, how would he convince me to buy Acada as a tool?

<strong>How to connect with Richard:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsains/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Richard's LinkedIn Profile</a>

<a href="mailto:rich@acadatech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Send Richard an email</a>

<a href="https://www.acadatech.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Acada website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">469ce2b9-0dde-4cc9-b3dd-d09888101620</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e69e0bd8-7c13-4bee-b656-8394d74442e3/episode-24-richard-sains.mp3" length="60685921" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Importance of a Data Strategy – Scott Taylor is The Data Whisperer</title><itunes:title>Importance of a Data Strategy – Scott Taylor is The Data Whisperer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[The topic of data is like a boomerang. It always seems to come back into every discussion when we get into the nuts and bolts of implementing a digital transformation in procurement or even just implementing a software solution to get more visibility into spend analytics.

Problem is, investing in it often doesn't yield a visible payback that can be directly tracked to a future P&amp;L statement. So, how can data management ever become top of the agenda?

My guest today argues that a significant part of the solution is being able to tell the right story to the right people, to help them better understand the implications of NOT doing this.

The message is clear. At the point of putting together a business case and a budget appropriation request for implementing procurement tech, getting your data ducks in a row needs to be an integral part of the calculation.

Scott Taylor joins me on this week's podcast to help explain why.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Why Implementing a Digital Procurement Solution Must Include A Data Strategy: Scott Taylor is The Data Whisperer</strong></h2>
1:47

What problems does Scott see when it comes to the causes and the effects of poor or inconsistent data?

5:53

Master data - what are the different types of data in the procurement space and where do the common pitfalls tend to come from? And how can feeding garbage into a procurement tech solution impact your implementation of a digital transformation?

8:46

Why is data management an important component in the various different procurement initiatives that are buzzwords at the moment?

12:02

Scott explains his "4C" concept and how it helps businesses to understand their potential flaws in master data management.

18:12

If we assume that cleaning your data is something that's a non-negotiable, I ask Scott how to approach the discussion with key decision makers. Specifically, how to pitch to CFOs to get buy-in to make the investment in something that doesn't have an immediate, demonstrable payback.

21:10

Scott explains why if digital transformation is part the journey of where a company wants to go, it requires highly structured data to successfully reach this destination.

22:11

Why selling data cleaning as a stand-alone project is likely to fail, and how to make the case for including data management and structure in the budget of any large-scale procuretech investment.

23:59

When it comes to data management, do smaller businesses have the advantage over larger corporations because they have fewer legacy systems and less data to manage, or do the larger businesses have the upper hand because they have the resources and expertise to stay one step ahead?

27:41

As a final question, I ask Scott about whether he thinks data scientists will be an integral part of procurement organisations going forward.

<strong>How to connect with Scott:</strong>

<a href="https://www.metametaconsulting.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Meta Meta Consulting website</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVQ1YhjNqc77GVsb3Xs4tvw" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Scott's YouTube Channel</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottmztaylor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Scott's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[The topic of data is like a boomerang. It always seems to come back into every discussion when we get into the nuts and bolts of implementing a digital transformation in procurement or even just implementing a software solution to get more visibility into spend analytics.

Problem is, investing in it often doesn't yield a visible payback that can be directly tracked to a future P&amp;L statement. So, how can data management ever become top of the agenda?

My guest today argues that a significant part of the solution is being able to tell the right story to the right people, to help them better understand the implications of NOT doing this.

The message is clear. At the point of putting together a business case and a budget appropriation request for implementing procurement tech, getting your data ducks in a row needs to be an integral part of the calculation.

Scott Taylor joins me on this week's podcast to help explain why.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Why Implementing a Digital Procurement Solution Must Include A Data Strategy: Scott Taylor is The Data Whisperer</strong></h2>
1:47

What problems does Scott see when it comes to the causes and the effects of poor or inconsistent data?

5:53

Master data - what are the different types of data in the procurement space and where do the common pitfalls tend to come from? And how can feeding garbage into a procurement tech solution impact your implementation of a digital transformation?

8:46

Why is data management an important component in the various different procurement initiatives that are buzzwords at the moment?

12:02

Scott explains his "4C" concept and how it helps businesses to understand their potential flaws in master data management.

18:12

If we assume that cleaning your data is something that's a non-negotiable, I ask Scott how to approach the discussion with key decision makers. Specifically, how to pitch to CFOs to get buy-in to make the investment in something that doesn't have an immediate, demonstrable payback.

21:10

Scott explains why if digital transformation is part the journey of where a company wants to go, it requires highly structured data to successfully reach this destination.

22:11

Why selling data cleaning as a stand-alone project is likely to fail, and how to make the case for including data management and structure in the budget of any large-scale procuretech investment.

23:59

When it comes to data management, do smaller businesses have the advantage over larger corporations because they have fewer legacy systems and less data to manage, or do the larger businesses have the upper hand because they have the resources and expertise to stay one step ahead?

27:41

As a final question, I ask Scott about whether he thinks data scientists will be an integral part of procurement organisations going forward.

<strong>How to connect with Scott:</strong>

<a href="https://www.metametaconsulting.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Meta Meta Consulting website</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVQ1YhjNqc77GVsb3Xs4tvw" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Scott's YouTube Channel</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottmztaylor/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Scott's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">30b897e1-6f33-4d7c-9219-6c8b3e59eb66</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/318e540b-0ead-434d-b3e6-2d893a344575/episode-23-scott-taylor.mp3" length="64204301" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Spend Analytics with Process Mining – Samir Kharkan from SCALUE</title><itunes:title>Spend Analytics with Process Mining – Samir Kharkan from SCALUE</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Understanding what you spend is the most important part of strategic procurement. Without this, you can't do much else. You're shooting in the wind, not really knowing whether what you're tackling are the ripest opportunities.

While spend <em>analysis</em> tools have been around for a while, they're now becoming old hat.

The new generation provides spend <em>analytics </em>and guides you to where the best opportunities may be hiding in your spend data.

Taking it to a completely new level, the ability to combine spend analytics with process mining is game changing. If you're not sure <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_mining" target="_blank" rel="noopener">what process mining is</a>, it will save what would previously have taken days, if not weeks of work to find holes and inefficiencies in your processes.

The P2P process is a classic case of where this can be implemented effectively, and combined with spend analytics to drive both performance improvement and cost reduction.

That's what my guest today, Samir Kharkan, CEO of German startup SCALUE is here to talk about.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">The Killer Punch for Extracting the Most Value: Combining Process Mining with Spend Analytics </strong></h2>
2:40

I start off by asking Samir the same question as I asked Kevin last week, and that is: what makes a vendor “cool”?

3:14

Spend ANALYSIS vs. spend ANALYTICS. What’s the difference, and how does analytics drive businesses forward more than just a standard analysis dashboard? How SCALUE and similar tools (see episode 3 with Eddie from Seaforth Analytics) differentiate themselves from the first wave of spend cube software

6:54

What is Process Mining, and how does this add further benefits beyond the spend analytics function in terms of analysing business processes to view potential inefficiencies and non-compliances?

8:30

Does a powerful tool such as spend analytics combined with process mining enable CPOs or CFOs to employ less experienced procurement managers now that software can do most of the heavy lifting? Spoiler: the answer is NO!

11:45

I ask Samir to walk through what the must-haves or prerequisites are on the customer’s side to ensure that implementation of a tool like SCALUE is successful. Samir’s "Captain of the ship" analogy is absolute gold!

15:47

We drill down into why this type of solution specifically solves a common problem for mid-sized companies, when considering this with the captain, ship and compass analogy that Samir so eloquently explains.

17:53

Is spend analytics and process mining also a relevant tool to use in professional service industries where there is no product being manufactured?

20:43

We drill down into an example of where an automotive supplier discovered 30% maverick spend in indirect services through the data made available by using SCALUE’s solution. Samir walks us through how they discovered it and then put measures in place to reduce this.

26:00

Let’s talk payback calculations…how long does it take for customers to typically see return on investment?

27:18

Samir gives a great example of how looking at invoice discrepancies based on drill down of incoterms can often give return on investment in just one swoop.

<strong>How to connect with Samir:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samir-kharkan-6b641a40/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Samir's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://scalue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">SCALUE website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Understanding what you spend is the most important part of strategic procurement. Without this, you can't do much else. You're shooting in the wind, not really knowing whether what you're tackling are the ripest opportunities.

While spend <em>analysis</em> tools have been around for a while, they're now becoming old hat.

The new generation provides spend <em>analytics </em>and guides you to where the best opportunities may be hiding in your spend data.

Taking it to a completely new level, the ability to combine spend analytics with process mining is game changing. If you're not sure <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_mining" target="_blank" rel="noopener">what process mining is</a>, it will save what would previously have taken days, if not weeks of work to find holes and inefficiencies in your processes.

The P2P process is a classic case of where this can be implemented effectively, and combined with spend analytics to drive both performance improvement and cost reduction.

That's what my guest today, Samir Kharkan, CEO of German startup SCALUE is here to talk about.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">The Killer Punch for Extracting the Most Value: Combining Process Mining with Spend Analytics </strong></h2>
2:40

I start off by asking Samir the same question as I asked Kevin last week, and that is: what makes a vendor “cool”?

3:14

Spend ANALYSIS vs. spend ANALYTICS. What’s the difference, and how does analytics drive businesses forward more than just a standard analysis dashboard? How SCALUE and similar tools (see episode 3 with Eddie from Seaforth Analytics) differentiate themselves from the first wave of spend cube software

6:54

What is Process Mining, and how does this add further benefits beyond the spend analytics function in terms of analysing business processes to view potential inefficiencies and non-compliances?

8:30

Does a powerful tool such as spend analytics combined with process mining enable CPOs or CFOs to employ less experienced procurement managers now that software can do most of the heavy lifting? Spoiler: the answer is NO!

11:45

I ask Samir to walk through what the must-haves or prerequisites are on the customer’s side to ensure that implementation of a tool like SCALUE is successful. Samir’s "Captain of the ship" analogy is absolute gold!

15:47

We drill down into why this type of solution specifically solves a common problem for mid-sized companies, when considering this with the captain, ship and compass analogy that Samir so eloquently explains.

17:53

Is spend analytics and process mining also a relevant tool to use in professional service industries where there is no product being manufactured?

20:43

We drill down into an example of where an automotive supplier discovered 30% maverick spend in indirect services through the data made available by using SCALUE’s solution. Samir walks us through how they discovered it and then put measures in place to reduce this.

26:00

Let’s talk payback calculations…how long does it take for customers to typically see return on investment?

27:18

Samir gives a great example of how looking at invoice discrepancies based on drill down of incoterms can often give return on investment in just one swoop.

<strong>How to connect with Samir:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samir-kharkan-6b641a40/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Samir's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://scalue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">SCALUE website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">686229bd-7c26-4cce-ab8a-db09f7791f5a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/02729024-a4ec-4680-b0dc-bb9e22c1d9aa/episode-22-samir-kharkan.mp3" length="62064350" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Automating Tail Spend Sourcing – Kevin Frechette from Fairmarkit</title><itunes:title>Automating Tail Spend Sourcing - Kevin Frechette from Fairmarkit</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Tail spend is a huge, untapped opportunity that you're probably not exploiting to its full potential.

If you're following the 80/20 rule, then managing the tail isn't going to be a key priority when it comes to resource allocation.

Meaning a lot of opportunity goes to waste. Especially if headcount is being cut and procurement teams are having to deal with bigger workloads.

My guest this week is Kevin Frechette, CEO and Co-Founder of Fairmarkit, who were recently recognised by Gartner as one of their "4 Cool Vendors" in the procurement tech space.

I also recently wrote <a href="https://www.fairmarkit.com/blog/the-significance-of-tail-spend-in-a-down-economy" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a piece for Fairmarkit's blog</a> all about leveraging tail spend in a recession, if anyone is interested to read my thoughts there!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Strategies for Dealing with your Tail: How AI-powered Automation fits into the Mix</strong></h2>
2:20

In light of their recognition by Gartner as one of 4 “cool vendors”, I asked Kevin what in his view makes a vendor cool.

4:44

Kevin explains how Fairmarkit came into the space of offering tail spend solutions. It’s an interesting story that shows a great example of pivoting what their initial idea was, to actually offering what the market is asking for to solve a specific challenge that kept cropping up in their discussions.

7:10

Kevin walks through the business case of why tail spend is a great untapped opportunity, and how a lot of the existing procuretech solutions were not addressing this as an opportunity.

8:20

We walk through some of the reasons why there is so much cash left on the table when it comes to tail spend and why organisations often overlook this as a valuable source of cost savings.

9:28

Is there a justification to allocate procurement resource to tail spend? If you can’t add headcount, especially under these economic circumstances, then how do you decide what to tackle and what not to? And for what you’re not tackling, what opportunity does this then offer to technology as a solution?

11:20

What actually constitutes tail spend? Is there a single definition? And what about services as well as goods?

14:13

What are the advantages of using a tech solution such as Fairmarkit vs. just leveraging other non-technical solutions such as BPO, catalogues, MRO and FM integrators and Group Purchasing Organisations?

18:16

We explore finding where the "sweet spot” is between value of purchase order and available resources in procurement teams to be able to leverage a tech solution like Fairmarkit to drive value and reduce sourcing cycle time of tail spend items. Kevin then walks through an example of how the process would then work when running a sourcing request through Fairmarkit.

20:50

Dealing with data quality and how Fairmarkit can manage non-perfect descriptions of what requisitioners are trying to source. Kevin explains how machine learning will improve the ability to work with imperfect data as the amount of requisitions Fairmarkit processes continues to increase.

26:26

We discuss Fairmarkit’s strategy of moving beyond just tail spend to offer a more end-to-end solution, and what the driving factors behind it were.

28:02

Kevin explains the concept of “intelligent sourcing”, and how data and automation can be leveraged to streamline and optimise the sourcing process.

30:32

Are clients using the productivity gains achieved through using the tool to redeploy FTEs onto more strategic procurement activity? Or are they just using the benefits to reduce procurement headcount?

34:01

A final example given by Kevin focuses on the concept of sourcing smarter.

<strong>How to connect with Kevin:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-frechette-49652921/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kevin's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.fairmarkit.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fairmarkit website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Tail spend is a huge, untapped opportunity that you're probably not exploiting to its full potential.

If you're following the 80/20 rule, then managing the tail isn't going to be a key priority when it comes to resource allocation.

Meaning a lot of opportunity goes to waste. Especially if headcount is being cut and procurement teams are having to deal with bigger workloads.

My guest this week is Kevin Frechette, CEO and Co-Founder of Fairmarkit, who were recently recognised by Gartner as one of their "4 Cool Vendors" in the procurement tech space.

I also recently wrote <a href="https://www.fairmarkit.com/blog/the-significance-of-tail-spend-in-a-down-economy" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a piece for Fairmarkit's blog</a> all about leveraging tail spend in a recession, if anyone is interested to read my thoughts there!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Strategies for Dealing with your Tail: How AI-powered Automation fits into the Mix</strong></h2>
2:20

In light of their recognition by Gartner as one of 4 “cool vendors”, I asked Kevin what in his view makes a vendor cool.

4:44

Kevin explains how Fairmarkit came into the space of offering tail spend solutions. It’s an interesting story that shows a great example of pivoting what their initial idea was, to actually offering what the market is asking for to solve a specific challenge that kept cropping up in their discussions.

7:10

Kevin walks through the business case of why tail spend is a great untapped opportunity, and how a lot of the existing procuretech solutions were not addressing this as an opportunity.

8:20

We walk through some of the reasons why there is so much cash left on the table when it comes to tail spend and why organisations often overlook this as a valuable source of cost savings.

9:28

Is there a justification to allocate procurement resource to tail spend? If you can’t add headcount, especially under these economic circumstances, then how do you decide what to tackle and what not to? And for what you’re not tackling, what opportunity does this then offer to technology as a solution?

11:20

What actually constitutes tail spend? Is there a single definition? And what about services as well as goods?

14:13

What are the advantages of using a tech solution such as Fairmarkit vs. just leveraging other non-technical solutions such as BPO, catalogues, MRO and FM integrators and Group Purchasing Organisations?

18:16

We explore finding where the "sweet spot” is between value of purchase order and available resources in procurement teams to be able to leverage a tech solution like Fairmarkit to drive value and reduce sourcing cycle time of tail spend items. Kevin then walks through an example of how the process would then work when running a sourcing request through Fairmarkit.

20:50

Dealing with data quality and how Fairmarkit can manage non-perfect descriptions of what requisitioners are trying to source. Kevin explains how machine learning will improve the ability to work with imperfect data as the amount of requisitions Fairmarkit processes continues to increase.

26:26

We discuss Fairmarkit’s strategy of moving beyond just tail spend to offer a more end-to-end solution, and what the driving factors behind it were.

28:02

Kevin explains the concept of “intelligent sourcing”, and how data and automation can be leveraged to streamline and optimise the sourcing process.

30:32

Are clients using the productivity gains achieved through using the tool to redeploy FTEs onto more strategic procurement activity? Or are they just using the benefits to reduce procurement headcount?

34:01

A final example given by Kevin focuses on the concept of sourcing smarter.

<strong>How to connect with Kevin:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-frechette-49652921/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kevin's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.fairmarkit.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fairmarkit website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9cfe3e97-5a28-43e9-8334-4d5643f0ed7f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/34ef02ee-e202-46a2-9e41-42706887cb44/episode-21-kevin-frechette.mp3" length="73002342" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Collaboration with Startups – Dr. Gisela Linge from Strategy Meets Reality</title><itunes:title>Collaboration with Startups – Dr. Gisela Linge from Strategy Meets Reality</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Buying smart, and measuring total value rather than just price, is a popular concept right now. And for good reason, given the supply chain fragilities that the Covid-19 pandemic has laid bare.

Nonetheless, the automotive industry is one that's renowned for being particularly cutthroat in its often combative relationships with suppliers.

My guest on today's show, Dr. Gisela Linge, is a strategy consultant who has over 10 years of experience in the automotive industry. So, it's all the more relevant to talk to someone with her experience about how sourcing smart and collaborating with innovative startups can move the needle.

We discuss how some of the process and regulatory roadblocks can be removed to ensure procurement and R&amp;D are able to work with the most innovative companies in the space without having their hands tied by impossible T&amp;Cs, bureaucracy and book-length contracts.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Sourcing Smart and Successfully Collaborating with Startups - an Interview with Dr. Gisela Linge from Strategy Meets Reality</strong></h2>
2:09

I ask Gisela for a short intro of how she got into the space of strategy, specifically in procurement

5:18

Buying smart rather than buying cheap - how does it work in an industry that is as cutthroat as the automotive sector?

8:21

Do large organisations such as OEMs and Tier 1s actually have the self-awareness to see the opportunities of how they can benefit from working with startups, or do they require external help from consultancies to understand the lay of the land?

13:07

Will we as time goes on see a more open interface between ERP systems and individual apps offering specific solutions that can integrate with them?

15:27

We look at examples of where companies do have a strategy of working with smaller and more innovative startups, but can often become unstuck with the usual big company compliance and legal bureaucracy. This can prevent startups from getting a foothold into these organisations as vendors, so we look at how this could play out and what needs to change, including an example of how Gisela overcame this in a previous position she held.

19:20

We touch on one of my favourite topics - I promise I didn’t lead the conversation this way(!) - of pragmatism over rigid process and how there must be more flexibility within legal and internal audit departments to make these collaborations a success.

21:58

I ask Gisela her experiences of being able to convince legal colleagues to be more pragmatic, in the quest of being able to work with startups who don’t have the bandwidth to sign up to standard large corporation T&amp;Cs and contractual requirements.

23:46

Exploring the opportunity of using risk management software to assess risk level of working with a specific vendor, and how this can be used to procurement’s advantage in preparing the business case to gain buy-in from Legal or any other sceptical internal business partners.

24:47

I ask Gisela for a tip for buyers who are struggling to get their stakeholders to agree to working with smaller startups to drive innovation.

<strong>How to connect with Gisela:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/giselalinge/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Gisela's LinkedIn profile</a>

Strategy Meets Reality website
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Buying smart, and measuring total value rather than just price, is a popular concept right now. And for good reason, given the supply chain fragilities that the Covid-19 pandemic has laid bare.

Nonetheless, the automotive industry is one that's renowned for being particularly cutthroat in its often combative relationships with suppliers.

My guest on today's show, Dr. Gisela Linge, is a strategy consultant who has over 10 years of experience in the automotive industry. So, it's all the more relevant to talk to someone with her experience about how sourcing smart and collaborating with innovative startups can move the needle.

We discuss how some of the process and regulatory roadblocks can be removed to ensure procurement and R&amp;D are able to work with the most innovative companies in the space without having their hands tied by impossible T&amp;Cs, bureaucracy and book-length contracts.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Sourcing Smart and Successfully Collaborating with Startups - an Interview with Dr. Gisela Linge from Strategy Meets Reality</strong></h2>
2:09

I ask Gisela for a short intro of how she got into the space of strategy, specifically in procurement

5:18

Buying smart rather than buying cheap - how does it work in an industry that is as cutthroat as the automotive sector?

8:21

Do large organisations such as OEMs and Tier 1s actually have the self-awareness to see the opportunities of how they can benefit from working with startups, or do they require external help from consultancies to understand the lay of the land?

13:07

Will we as time goes on see a more open interface between ERP systems and individual apps offering specific solutions that can integrate with them?

15:27

We look at examples of where companies do have a strategy of working with smaller and more innovative startups, but can often become unstuck with the usual big company compliance and legal bureaucracy. This can prevent startups from getting a foothold into these organisations as vendors, so we look at how this could play out and what needs to change, including an example of how Gisela overcame this in a previous position she held.

19:20

We touch on one of my favourite topics - I promise I didn’t lead the conversation this way(!) - of pragmatism over rigid process and how there must be more flexibility within legal and internal audit departments to make these collaborations a success.

21:58

I ask Gisela her experiences of being able to convince legal colleagues to be more pragmatic, in the quest of being able to work with startups who don’t have the bandwidth to sign up to standard large corporation T&amp;Cs and contractual requirements.

23:46

Exploring the opportunity of using risk management software to assess risk level of working with a specific vendor, and how this can be used to procurement’s advantage in preparing the business case to gain buy-in from Legal or any other sceptical internal business partners.

24:47

I ask Gisela for a tip for buyers who are struggling to get their stakeholders to agree to working with smaller startups to drive innovation.

<strong>How to connect with Gisela:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/giselalinge/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Gisela's LinkedIn profile</a>

Strategy Meets Reality website
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">16042573-ba73-43b8-9989-2f0d872694f4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/836b4a9d-d156-4f5e-94ed-3a26b690e067/episode-20-gisela-linge.mp3" length="56406018" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Saving on Employee Expenses – Anthony Devine from Finfo</title><itunes:title>Saving on Employee Expenses - Anthony Devine from Finfo</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Expenses for items such as individual company mobile phone usage, printing and copaying is typically billed centrally against a centrally negotiated contract. The costs incurred, however, are often both a mystery and black hole of unaudited, unchecked invoices.

They needn't be.

All organisations can access individual employee expense data if they so wish. The reality is that few of them do. Which is really a lost opportunity, when you consider all of the anomalies, discrepancies and consumption-driven cost reduction which can be attained here through just having the right data.

My guest this week, Anthony Devine, explains how organisations can, through the power of well presented data and a culture of transparency, use this data to drive awareness of cost and usage, and make a serious dent into the overall spend on these services.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Driving 30% Savings with Deep Data on Employee Expenses: Anthony Devine from Finfo tells us how</strong></h2>
2:50

Anthony tells a fascinating story of how he discovered this was a problem from a very different original career path he had been on.

4:45

What does Finfo define as indirect employee expenses for the purpose of what the tool can track?

6:31

How can these expenses be broken down to show what each employee or username is consuming? What are the means and mechanisms used to be able to get hold of the data and present it in an easily understandable format?

8:59

What is preventing the client from accessing this data themselves? Anthony’s answer is surprising in that the barriers to entry are relatively low but the penetration rate of clients actually requesting this data natively is very low.

11:08

I ask Anthony how they are able to fulfil the data privacy requirements of GDPR, and what data they are actually able to legally display within their own organisation.

14:47

Anthony walks us through how Finfo onboards a new client, and how they go about giving them visibility of the data which could generate an easy return on investment with regard to going after the low hanging fruit.

18:14

The savings figure in Year 1 that Anthony alludes to is an eye-popping number you won’t want to miss if you’re an IT or telecoms procurement professional!

21:41

Beyond year 1, how does Finfo manage to deliver value beyond implementing the initial quick wins?

23:01

How procurement category managers can benefit from a third party provider (such as Finfo) as a means to having better knowledge of their competitive position with regard to their contract terms with telecomms and printer/copier suppliers.

26:05

I ask Anthony to give me the elevator pitch of how Procurement Managers should be positioning this to persuade budget holders to invest in tools to assist with cost transparency

<strong>How to connect with Anthony:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonydevinefinfo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.finfo.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">finfo website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Expenses for items such as individual company mobile phone usage, printing and copaying is typically billed centrally against a centrally negotiated contract. The costs incurred, however, are often both a mystery and black hole of unaudited, unchecked invoices.

They needn't be.

All organisations can access individual employee expense data if they so wish. The reality is that few of them do. Which is really a lost opportunity, when you consider all of the anomalies, discrepancies and consumption-driven cost reduction which can be attained here through just having the right data.

My guest this week, Anthony Devine, explains how organisations can, through the power of well presented data and a culture of transparency, use this data to drive awareness of cost and usage, and make a serious dent into the overall spend on these services.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Driving 30% Savings with Deep Data on Employee Expenses: Anthony Devine from Finfo tells us how</strong></h2>
2:50

Anthony tells a fascinating story of how he discovered this was a problem from a very different original career path he had been on.

4:45

What does Finfo define as indirect employee expenses for the purpose of what the tool can track?

6:31

How can these expenses be broken down to show what each employee or username is consuming? What are the means and mechanisms used to be able to get hold of the data and present it in an easily understandable format?

8:59

What is preventing the client from accessing this data themselves? Anthony’s answer is surprising in that the barriers to entry are relatively low but the penetration rate of clients actually requesting this data natively is very low.

11:08

I ask Anthony how they are able to fulfil the data privacy requirements of GDPR, and what data they are actually able to legally display within their own organisation.

14:47

Anthony walks us through how Finfo onboards a new client, and how they go about giving them visibility of the data which could generate an easy return on investment with regard to going after the low hanging fruit.

18:14

The savings figure in Year 1 that Anthony alludes to is an eye-popping number you won’t want to miss if you’re an IT or telecoms procurement professional!

21:41

Beyond year 1, how does Finfo manage to deliver value beyond implementing the initial quick wins?

23:01

How procurement category managers can benefit from a third party provider (such as Finfo) as a means to having better knowledge of their competitive position with regard to their contract terms with telecomms and printer/copier suppliers.

26:05

I ask Anthony to give me the elevator pitch of how Procurement Managers should be positioning this to persuade budget holders to invest in tools to assist with cost transparency

<strong>How to connect with Anthony:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonydevinefinfo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.finfo.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">finfo website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f7b95750-4b21-4dc3-9413-fbf42ec9a70e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fea54e01-3593-4900-8e7a-52460af8b530/episode-19-anthony-devine.mp3" length="56976115" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Utilising P2P Software to Drive Spend Culture – Aman Mann from Procurify</title><itunes:title>Utilising P2P Software to Drive Spend Culture - Aman Mann from Procurify</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Larger organisations tend to use enterprise level ERP systems such as SAP and Oracle, neither of which are particularly user-friendly. In fact, the average person who only uses them to request, approve or receive goods and services will usually find them cumbersome to the point that they find ways around them.

Organisations typically react to this by offering solutions such as punch-out catalogues and P-cards, or even third-party integrators and BPO to deal with tail spend.

Smaller and medium-sized organisations either don't have an ERP system (particularly for rapidly scaling startups), or they have a sales / accounts-oriented solution like Xero, Sage or Netsuite.

In all of these situations, there isn't really much opportunity to have visibility of requisition and order tracking, as well as what is being spent against which budget in a format easily visible to users and budget holders.

My guest this week is the CEO of Canadian scale-up Procurify, who are making waves through their super user-friendly P2P software which facilitates a more visible "spend culture" in organisations through its smartphone app first technology and easy to user interface.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">How Well Designed P2P Software Can Lead to Improved Spend Awareness: Aman Mann from Procurify</strong></h2>
2:14

Aman begins the interview by walking us through what he views as being a good corporate spend culture, and examples of where it can easily go wrong.

5:47

We explore the differences between a healthy corporate culture of spend transparency vs. a more controlling, top-down approach of strict spend control, and how the former can result in a much more autonomy and less bureaucracy.

9:35

Uncontrolled spend vs. transparent spend - what is the difference and what can cause the former vs. the latter?

16:00

We look into two examples: A rapidly growing company that has no ERP system vs. a well-established organisation that has a legacy ERP system in place that does not really cater well to procurement's needs. I ask Aman how Procurify's system can drive benefits and what time savings this typically provides.

22:18

What to do if you already have an existing, legacy ERP system in place? If this has a finance module, what options are there to use a P2P system such as Procurify that has been designed with procurement in mind when there is still a need to use legacy systems for accounts and invoice processing?

25:56

Simple P2P functions such as approvals of requisitions and POs and performing goods receipts have only fairly recently become commonplace via mobile app, whereas travel &amp; expense software has had functionality to submit reports in an app for years. I ask for Aman's thoughts around why this has taken so long to catch up.

29:27

How Aman sees Procurify's product as just a tool which can help as an enabler of how organisations can succeed through company culture and mindset.

<strong>How to connect with Aman:</strong>

<a href="https://www.procurify.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurify website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Larger organisations tend to use enterprise level ERP systems such as SAP and Oracle, neither of which are particularly user-friendly. In fact, the average person who only uses them to request, approve or receive goods and services will usually find them cumbersome to the point that they find ways around them.

Organisations typically react to this by offering solutions such as punch-out catalogues and P-cards, or even third-party integrators and BPO to deal with tail spend.

Smaller and medium-sized organisations either don't have an ERP system (particularly for rapidly scaling startups), or they have a sales / accounts-oriented solution like Xero, Sage or Netsuite.

In all of these situations, there isn't really much opportunity to have visibility of requisition and order tracking, as well as what is being spent against which budget in a format easily visible to users and budget holders.

My guest this week is the CEO of Canadian scale-up Procurify, who are making waves through their super user-friendly P2P software which facilitates a more visible "spend culture" in organisations through its smartphone app first technology and easy to user interface.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">How Well Designed P2P Software Can Lead to Improved Spend Awareness: Aman Mann from Procurify</strong></h2>
2:14

Aman begins the interview by walking us through what he views as being a good corporate spend culture, and examples of where it can easily go wrong.

5:47

We explore the differences between a healthy corporate culture of spend transparency vs. a more controlling, top-down approach of strict spend control, and how the former can result in a much more autonomy and less bureaucracy.

9:35

Uncontrolled spend vs. transparent spend - what is the difference and what can cause the former vs. the latter?

16:00

We look into two examples: A rapidly growing company that has no ERP system vs. a well-established organisation that has a legacy ERP system in place that does not really cater well to procurement's needs. I ask Aman how Procurify's system can drive benefits and what time savings this typically provides.

22:18

What to do if you already have an existing, legacy ERP system in place? If this has a finance module, what options are there to use a P2P system such as Procurify that has been designed with procurement in mind when there is still a need to use legacy systems for accounts and invoice processing?

25:56

Simple P2P functions such as approvals of requisitions and POs and performing goods receipts have only fairly recently become commonplace via mobile app, whereas travel &amp; expense software has had functionality to submit reports in an app for years. I ask for Aman's thoughts around why this has taken so long to catch up.

29:27

How Aman sees Procurify's product as just a tool which can help as an enabler of how organisations can succeed through company culture and mindset.

<strong>How to connect with Aman:</strong>

<a href="https://www.procurify.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurify website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bc8849c1-5fd3-49c9-9522-7f4820e9d62a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9bbb92a6-c652-4562-b06d-86dec8ec0dbe/episode-18-aman-mann.mp3" length="65156412" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>AI-Powered Spend Intelligence – Sreeram Venkitakrishnan from Simfoni</title><itunes:title>AI-Powered Spend Intelligence - Sreeram Venkitakrishnan from Simfoni</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[While many solutions providers in the procuretech space have focused their efforts on automating or simplifying operational procurement, my guest this week is from a company who have used this technology to bring AI-driven benefits to the spend analysis process.

Instead of just providing a spend dashboard, Simfoni is seeking to distinguish itself from an increasingly crowded marketplace by offering spend classification, a suggested savings roadmap and risk analysis all in one.

We discuss how this can lead to faster decision making, as well as exploring some of the limitations where the procurement skills of the person managing the category will still come into play.

Just like a pilot's relationship with an aeroplane's auto-pilot capabilities, AI can do the heavy lifting, but the nuanced expertise of the procurement professional is vital.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Leveraging AI to Power Smarter Spend Intelligence: Sreeram Venkitakrishnan from Simfoni</strong></h2>
3:10

What is AI-powered spend intellgence?

5:41

I ask Sreeram whether AI capabilities are really that advanced when it comes to classification of PO data and the ability to categorise vendors and individual POs into taxonomies or buckets of similar spend.

10:15

Can a machine or artificial intelligence perform risk analysis? Or is it more around accelerating decision making through making certain pieces of data more accessible?

13:31

We explore how using AI and machine learning can locate the most lucrative cost savings opportunities, which could vastly speed up the amount of time to come up with an expense reduction roadmap from an initial spend analysis.

15:20

Sreeram explains the concept of "should cost analysis", and how market intelligence can be utilised to project what direct materials should cost based on market price intelligence and various sources of commodity price data.

17:32

We discuss how tools like this can facilitate the ability to "hit the ground running" in a new category management position, especially in cases where Buyers and CMs don't have experience of purchasing that particular category before. Will Simfoni and similar tools enable access to more roles for experienced Category Managers with a more generalist background?

20:17

Of the 3 key pillars that Simfoni offers, I ask Sreeram his thoughts on which of them will have the most profound impact over the years to come.

24:10

I muse about some of the same topics coming up in several different interviews that I've done for the podcast and how this is very unlikely to be a coincidence! If you want to stay relevant, ensure you're aware of what these are!

<strong>How to connect with Sreeram:</strong>

<a href="https://simfoni.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Simfoni website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sreeram-venkitakrishnan-6aba9459/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sreeram's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[While many solutions providers in the procuretech space have focused their efforts on automating or simplifying operational procurement, my guest this week is from a company who have used this technology to bring AI-driven benefits to the spend analysis process.

Instead of just providing a spend dashboard, Simfoni is seeking to distinguish itself from an increasingly crowded marketplace by offering spend classification, a suggested savings roadmap and risk analysis all in one.

We discuss how this can lead to faster decision making, as well as exploring some of the limitations where the procurement skills of the person managing the category will still come into play.

Just like a pilot's relationship with an aeroplane's auto-pilot capabilities, AI can do the heavy lifting, but the nuanced expertise of the procurement professional is vital.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Leveraging AI to Power Smarter Spend Intelligence: Sreeram Venkitakrishnan from Simfoni</strong></h2>
3:10

What is AI-powered spend intellgence?

5:41

I ask Sreeram whether AI capabilities are really that advanced when it comes to classification of PO data and the ability to categorise vendors and individual POs into taxonomies or buckets of similar spend.

10:15

Can a machine or artificial intelligence perform risk analysis? Or is it more around accelerating decision making through making certain pieces of data more accessible?

13:31

We explore how using AI and machine learning can locate the most lucrative cost savings opportunities, which could vastly speed up the amount of time to come up with an expense reduction roadmap from an initial spend analysis.

15:20

Sreeram explains the concept of "should cost analysis", and how market intelligence can be utilised to project what direct materials should cost based on market price intelligence and various sources of commodity price data.

17:32

We discuss how tools like this can facilitate the ability to "hit the ground running" in a new category management position, especially in cases where Buyers and CMs don't have experience of purchasing that particular category before. Will Simfoni and similar tools enable access to more roles for experienced Category Managers with a more generalist background?

20:17

Of the 3 key pillars that Simfoni offers, I ask Sreeram his thoughts on which of them will have the most profound impact over the years to come.

24:10

I muse about some of the same topics coming up in several different interviews that I've done for the podcast and how this is very unlikely to be a coincidence! If you want to stay relevant, ensure you're aware of what these are!

<strong>How to connect with Sreeram:</strong>

<a href="https://simfoni.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Simfoni website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sreeram-venkitakrishnan-6aba9459/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sreeram's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">646df818-c67f-4570-a14a-c546ff1ebf68</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/642a23f6-d3b3-47c1-a81f-a7eb88a60083/episode-17-sreeram-v.mp3" length="49272291" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Cognitive Market and Supplier Intel – Kent Ledgerwood from LevaData</title><itunes:title>Cognitive Market and Supplier Intel - Kent Ledgerwood from LevaData</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Preparation for negotiations has long been something that we as procurement professionals know is vitally important, but all too often we're stuck in the weeds with firefighting and process-related administrative work to do what we should be doing.

Add to this the difficulties we also face in obtaining the necessary market data.
<ul>
 	<li>Maybe your organisation has stopped subscribing to commodity price data channels because the subscriptions are too expensive</li>
 	<li>Or you're new to a category and you don't know how to pull this data.</li>
 	<li>Perhaps your predecessor stored the Excel spreadsheets on his/her C drive or on some far flung corner of Sharepoint that you're not aware of.</li>
</ul><br/>
We've all been there.

Time is scarce and access to the necessary knowledge isn't always straightforward. In today's episode, I interview Kent Ledgerwood, VP of Customer Success at LevaData. They're a company who are facilitating easier access to supplier data to help buyers in their negotiation preparation, as well as more general risk management assessment activities related to sourcing and supplier management.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Using Cognitive Market and Supplier Intelligence to Cut Negotiation Prep Work: Kent Ledgerwood from LevaData</strong></h2>
2:53

I start off by asking Kent whether he believes it's true that Sales typically know their customers better than Procurement knows their suppliers, and what we can do to catch up and level the playing field.

4:48

We go on to discuss how size of company may still impact overall perceived buying power. However, it no longer necessarily means better access to market intelligence and certainly doesn't mean ability to act faster.

6:43

Kent explains how there is a sweeping change of collaboration in diverse industries between buyer and customer, in order to become more innovative, maintain margins and be faster to market. Democratisation of data and the ability to open up is changing the way business is done.

8:51

Will this trend happen faster in certain industries than others?

9:59

We discuss to what extent having perfect knowledge of the market and of the supplier can assist a negotiation preparation, and why AI will still rely on the human at the other end and their ability to be able to interpret the data to facilitate them in making informed decisions.

11:26

How "big data" can give you the insights to how your organisation is performing in relation to not only the market, but also compared to other peer companies in the same industry?

13:49

What are the limitations of what a machine can provide vs. where does the human knowledge of the Commodity / Category Manager come in to complement this augmented intelligence?

16:03

How cognititve data can assist with New Product Introduction (NPI) through its analysis a Bill of Materials (BoM) to ensure that pricing can be optimised in real time in collaboration with both Engineering and Procurement.

18:23

We look into how intelligence of actual costs in the marketplace can ensure speed and effectiveness in sourcing, and how this can also avoid unsubstantiated budgets driven from financial controllers without the benefits of market insight.

21:22

Risk management is the buzzword of late, but no platform will completely eliminate all of your potential supply chain disruption. We explore the benefits as well as the limitations of this, as well as looking deeper into 2nd and 3rd tier vendors and how they can be analysed to spot potential risk.

24:54

Certain geopolitical risks are easier to predict vs. less predictable risk such as the emergence and rapid spread of Covid-19. I ask Kent to what extent good data is necessary in order to provide the necessary intelligence in the context of risk to your supply chain. His answer is surprising and unexpected...

<strong>How to connect with Kent:</strong>

<a href="https://www.levadata.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LevaData website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentledgerwood/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kent's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="mailto:kent.ledgerwood@levadata.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kent's email address</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Preparation for negotiations has long been something that we as procurement professionals know is vitally important, but all too often we're stuck in the weeds with firefighting and process-related administrative work to do what we should be doing.

Add to this the difficulties we also face in obtaining the necessary market data.
<ul>
 	<li>Maybe your organisation has stopped subscribing to commodity price data channels because the subscriptions are too expensive</li>
 	<li>Or you're new to a category and you don't know how to pull this data.</li>
 	<li>Perhaps your predecessor stored the Excel spreadsheets on his/her C drive or on some far flung corner of Sharepoint that you're not aware of.</li>
</ul><br/>
We've all been there.

Time is scarce and access to the necessary knowledge isn't always straightforward. In today's episode, I interview Kent Ledgerwood, VP of Customer Success at LevaData. They're a company who are facilitating easier access to supplier data to help buyers in their negotiation preparation, as well as more general risk management assessment activities related to sourcing and supplier management.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Using Cognitive Market and Supplier Intelligence to Cut Negotiation Prep Work: Kent Ledgerwood from LevaData</strong></h2>
2:53

I start off by asking Kent whether he believes it's true that Sales typically know their customers better than Procurement knows their suppliers, and what we can do to catch up and level the playing field.

4:48

We go on to discuss how size of company may still impact overall perceived buying power. However, it no longer necessarily means better access to market intelligence and certainly doesn't mean ability to act faster.

6:43

Kent explains how there is a sweeping change of collaboration in diverse industries between buyer and customer, in order to become more innovative, maintain margins and be faster to market. Democratisation of data and the ability to open up is changing the way business is done.

8:51

Will this trend happen faster in certain industries than others?

9:59

We discuss to what extent having perfect knowledge of the market and of the supplier can assist a negotiation preparation, and why AI will still rely on the human at the other end and their ability to be able to interpret the data to facilitate them in making informed decisions.

11:26

How "big data" can give you the insights to how your organisation is performing in relation to not only the market, but also compared to other peer companies in the same industry?

13:49

What are the limitations of what a machine can provide vs. where does the human knowledge of the Commodity / Category Manager come in to complement this augmented intelligence?

16:03

How cognititve data can assist with New Product Introduction (NPI) through its analysis a Bill of Materials (BoM) to ensure that pricing can be optimised in real time in collaboration with both Engineering and Procurement.

18:23

We look into how intelligence of actual costs in the marketplace can ensure speed and effectiveness in sourcing, and how this can also avoid unsubstantiated budgets driven from financial controllers without the benefits of market insight.

21:22

Risk management is the buzzword of late, but no platform will completely eliminate all of your potential supply chain disruption. We explore the benefits as well as the limitations of this, as well as looking deeper into 2nd and 3rd tier vendors and how they can be analysed to spot potential risk.

24:54

Certain geopolitical risks are easier to predict vs. less predictable risk such as the emergence and rapid spread of Covid-19. I ask Kent to what extent good data is necessary in order to provide the necessary intelligence in the context of risk to your supply chain. His answer is surprising and unexpected...

<strong>How to connect with Kent:</strong>

<a href="https://www.levadata.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LevaData website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentledgerwood/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kent's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="mailto:kent.ledgerwood@levadata.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kent's email address</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e692c000-b8b3-4ae8-8fa6-8f95e851ad3f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/545e6717-c07b-460c-a5c4-0a74922283c0/Podcast-Covert-Art-orange.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/75c4de87-5d42-4a39-90cd-f400de8aea0a/episode-16-kent-ledgerwood.mp3" length="58260085" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Automating Accounts Payable – Veekshith C. Rai from Finly</title><itunes:title>AP issues are a common bugbear of Procurement teams. Automating simple processes and eliminating paper and human error can fix this.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Accounts payable issues are something that we as procurement professionals shouldn't really need to get involved in but inevitably we do. In these instances, our role is usually the equivalent of a fire extinguisher. It performs no added value and very rarely do we receive any recognition for it.

So why does it land in our inbox?

Because, well, where does the buck stop when the supplier hasn't been paid or invoices have been lost? Yup, that's right. If we own the vendor relationship, then you can bet your bottom dollar that we'll hear about it when AP are underperforming.

There are lots of reasons why this happens. Broken processes, poor onboarding of new staff, reliance on sending invoices by post or email, as well as high attrition rates within AP teams can all lead to a less than optimal process.

My guest on today's show walks us through how automation can lead to productivity gains of up to 70% and redeployment of staff from administrative processes to more analytical work.

This is a great example of how developing countries have leapfrogged us in the West to come up with a truly remarkable solution, and that innovation is everywhere.

<strong class="ql-size-large">Automating Accounts Payable: Veekshith C. Rai on how to eliminate human error and non-value added admin</strong>

3:10

Veekshith walks through the 5 main areas that a CFO typically needs to cover off, and how Finly has contributed to automating these.

4:21

Why did Finly decide to include a procurement module? Learn how non-PO spend is much more common within Indian companies and how they were able to adapt a solution to accommodate this.

8:09

Veekshith talks about how automation can increase departmental productivity by ca. 70% and that smart companies can redelpoy the headcount saved through this to more added value tasks.

12:09

We talk about specifically the procurement modules and whether these can be used as stand-alone options without the need for ERP integration, and the pros and cons of doing this.

15:26

Because procurement teams typically don't have an IT or capex budget, persuading the business to invest in procuretech is usually a laborious and difficult task. Especially if there are no guaranteed P&amp;L savings. I ask Veekshith his thoughts on whether selling directly to CFOs (because this is predominantly a finance tool) is easier than going through procurement. His answer is super interesting and also gives an insight into how corporate structure and governance in India is different

19:24

I ask Veekshith about his plans to conquer the US and European market and he explains some of the challenges of making this a reality. His answer was startling and was a huge eye-opener of how far behind our banking systems are in more mature markets vs. more innovative players in emerging economies.

21:58

This is a competitive space, and there is no one-size-fits-all solution. I therefore ask Veekshith as a final question what he sees as Finly's USP, especially in light of their plans to enter more competitive markets.

<strong>How to connect with Veekshith:</strong>

<a href="https://www.finly.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Finly website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/veekshith-rai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Veekshith's LinkedIn Profile</a>

<a href="https://twitter.com/VeekshithCRai" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Veekshith's Twitter Account</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Accounts payable issues are something that we as procurement professionals shouldn't really need to get involved in but inevitably we do. In these instances, our role is usually the equivalent of a fire extinguisher. It performs no added value and very rarely do we receive any recognition for it.

So why does it land in our inbox?

Because, well, where does the buck stop when the supplier hasn't been paid or invoices have been lost? Yup, that's right. If we own the vendor relationship, then you can bet your bottom dollar that we'll hear about it when AP are underperforming.

There are lots of reasons why this happens. Broken processes, poor onboarding of new staff, reliance on sending invoices by post or email, as well as high attrition rates within AP teams can all lead to a less than optimal process.

My guest on today's show walks us through how automation can lead to productivity gains of up to 70% and redeployment of staff from administrative processes to more analytical work.

This is a great example of how developing countries have leapfrogged us in the West to come up with a truly remarkable solution, and that innovation is everywhere.

<strong class="ql-size-large">Automating Accounts Payable: Veekshith C. Rai on how to eliminate human error and non-value added admin</strong>

3:10

Veekshith walks through the 5 main areas that a CFO typically needs to cover off, and how Finly has contributed to automating these.

4:21

Why did Finly decide to include a procurement module? Learn how non-PO spend is much more common within Indian companies and how they were able to adapt a solution to accommodate this.

8:09

Veekshith talks about how automation can increase departmental productivity by ca. 70% and that smart companies can redelpoy the headcount saved through this to more added value tasks.

12:09

We talk about specifically the procurement modules and whether these can be used as stand-alone options without the need for ERP integration, and the pros and cons of doing this.

15:26

Because procurement teams typically don't have an IT or capex budget, persuading the business to invest in procuretech is usually a laborious and difficult task. Especially if there are no guaranteed P&amp;L savings. I ask Veekshith his thoughts on whether selling directly to CFOs (because this is predominantly a finance tool) is easier than going through procurement. His answer is super interesting and also gives an insight into how corporate structure and governance in India is different

19:24

I ask Veekshith about his plans to conquer the US and European market and he explains some of the challenges of making this a reality. His answer was startling and was a huge eye-opener of how far behind our banking systems are in more mature markets vs. more innovative players in emerging economies.

21:58

This is a competitive space, and there is no one-size-fits-all solution. I therefore ask Veekshith as a final question what he sees as Finly's USP, especially in light of their plans to enter more competitive markets.

<strong>How to connect with Veekshith:</strong>

<a href="https://www.finly.io" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Finly website</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/veekshith-rai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Veekshith's LinkedIn Profile</a>

<a href="https://twitter.com/VeekshithCRai" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Veekshith's Twitter Account</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9e6a671f-9217-4347-b750-598d5ef56e33</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/549404f0-21e0-41aa-b814-d0e14d2d2ea1/episode-15-veekshith-c.mp3" length="51222488" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Procurement’s Skills Needed for the Digital Age – Martin Smith from Talent Drive</title><itunes:title>Procurement&apos;s Skills Needed for the Digital Age - Martin Smith from Talent Drive</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Although it may not seem that way as we emerge from Covid-19, the war for talent is just about to get real. The thing is, it's the war for the right talent. If you're in a fairly generic, operational procurement role then I HIGHLY recommend you listen to this episode and take ACTION before you find yourself in a role that's becoming obsolete, thanks to the unstoppable march of technology and automation.

In this episode I'm joined by experienced recruiter Martin Smith of Talent Drive, a UK based recruitment agency specialising in Procurement and Supply Chain roles.

We discuss the impact of Covid-19, immediate and longer term trends as the importance of "bums on seats" in the office from 9 to 5 every day diminishes and as technology plays an ever more important role in how procurement teams achieve their results.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Recruiting Procurement Talent for The Digital Age - Martin Smith from Talent Drive</strong></h2>
4:23

Martin goes into what the market is likely to look like post-lockdown and how employers will be forced to move with the times if the marketplace for top talent stays competitive.

7:26

We explore the impact this could have on salaries and benefits, and how employees could value softer benefits going forward as access to technology and telecommuting becomes the norm.

9:11

Will salary become less important as time goes on, as employees tend to value flexibility over remuneration?

11:51

I ask Martin his thoughts about fixed-term contracts and the increase of interim managers, as companies become more savvy about having flexible resourcing to cover peaks and troughs in demand and workload on a project-specific basis.

17:26

Martin and I go (educated) crystal ball gazing into how procurement organisations of the future may look. If you’re worried about whether your skills are relevant, or if your role could become redundant or obsolete in future, this is something you REALLY need to listen to and define an action plan. A robot may be able to do your job in 10 years time. This is your wake-up call.

22:08

We discuss how operational and tactical procurement roles will likely not exist in a few years time in more progressive companies who are focused on added value and driving the business forward, rather than technocratic, process obsessed procurement teams.

23:13

I have a bit of a rant about how procurement professionals are still predominantly tied up in non-value added tasks and administrative work! Then I ask Martin about his thoughts on the biggest change in skills that employers will seek from procurement professionals as we go full speed ahead into a digital age, where soft skills and the ability to influence stakeholders will play an ever-increasing role.

27:08

We round off the interview looking at how certain roles currently not in procurement may at some point be part of the organisation, and also discuss where procurement’s reporting line is likely to be as we move more into Industry 4.0.

29:00

Finally, I ask Martin for his 3 tips of how procurement professionals can improve their relevance (and their employability) in a changing market.

<strong>How to connect with Martin:</strong>

<a href="https://talentdrive.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Talent Drive website</a>

<a href="https://talentdrive.co.uk/category/talent-talks-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Talent Talks podcast</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinsmith2009/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Martin's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Although it may not seem that way as we emerge from Covid-19, the war for talent is just about to get real. The thing is, it's the war for the right talent. If you're in a fairly generic, operational procurement role then I HIGHLY recommend you listen to this episode and take ACTION before you find yourself in a role that's becoming obsolete, thanks to the unstoppable march of technology and automation.

In this episode I'm joined by experienced recruiter Martin Smith of Talent Drive, a UK based recruitment agency specialising in Procurement and Supply Chain roles.

We discuss the impact of Covid-19, immediate and longer term trends as the importance of "bums on seats" in the office from 9 to 5 every day diminishes and as technology plays an ever more important role in how procurement teams achieve their results.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Recruiting Procurement Talent for The Digital Age - Martin Smith from Talent Drive</strong></h2>
4:23

Martin goes into what the market is likely to look like post-lockdown and how employers will be forced to move with the times if the marketplace for top talent stays competitive.

7:26

We explore the impact this could have on salaries and benefits, and how employees could value softer benefits going forward as access to technology and telecommuting becomes the norm.

9:11

Will salary become less important as time goes on, as employees tend to value flexibility over remuneration?

11:51

I ask Martin his thoughts about fixed-term contracts and the increase of interim managers, as companies become more savvy about having flexible resourcing to cover peaks and troughs in demand and workload on a project-specific basis.

17:26

Martin and I go (educated) crystal ball gazing into how procurement organisations of the future may look. If you’re worried about whether your skills are relevant, or if your role could become redundant or obsolete in future, this is something you REALLY need to listen to and define an action plan. A robot may be able to do your job in 10 years time. This is your wake-up call.

22:08

We discuss how operational and tactical procurement roles will likely not exist in a few years time in more progressive companies who are focused on added value and driving the business forward, rather than technocratic, process obsessed procurement teams.

23:13

I have a bit of a rant about how procurement professionals are still predominantly tied up in non-value added tasks and administrative work! Then I ask Martin about his thoughts on the biggest change in skills that employers will seek from procurement professionals as we go full speed ahead into a digital age, where soft skills and the ability to influence stakeholders will play an ever-increasing role.

27:08

We round off the interview looking at how certain roles currently not in procurement may at some point be part of the organisation, and also discuss where procurement’s reporting line is likely to be as we move more into Industry 4.0.

29:00

Finally, I ask Martin for his 3 tips of how procurement professionals can improve their relevance (and their employability) in a changing market.

<strong>How to connect with Martin:</strong>

<a href="https://talentdrive.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Talent Drive website</a>

<a href="https://talentdrive.co.uk/category/talent-talks-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Talent Talks podcast</a>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinsmith2009/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Martin's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">177501dd-85fa-4f07-b697-2a71e919a33b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3061e7d0-c794-4282-ad23-9f1c8bfee2f6/episode-14-martin-smith-talent-drive.mp3" length="63634205" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Measuring Procurement’s Value Delivery – Pierre Laprée from Per Angusta</title><itunes:title>Measuring Procurement&apos;s Value Delivery – Pierre Laprée from Per Angusta</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Procurement has an image problem.

We're often seen as the department our stakeholders and business partners run to when they have a problem that requires an immediate reaction. We're often brought in to extinguish the fire extinguisher, but rarely to prevent them from happening.

So, how do we move from being a reactionary department seemingly in servitude to our stakeholders, to a better respected business partner that is seen as a value generator.

Part of the solution is making our contribution to the organisation better known and more visible. We're not just a department that fulfils our annual cost savings targets. We also provide a whole lot of other value that often goes unmeasured, but where individual business partners are more directly impacted.

It's here where we discuss how better awareness and communication of these initiatives, and a common mechanism to measure and track these, can make a huge difference to how procurement is perceived internally as a credible business partner.

My guest this week on the show is Pierre Laprée, CEO of Per Angusta. They're a French company who have developed and successfully implemented a tool that tracks total procurement performance in major businesses.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Measuring Procurement's True Value to the Business – Pierre Laprée from Per Angusta</strong></h2>
3:12

Pierre explains his background and how he went from Procurement Director to SaaS startup entrepreneur, by way of seeing a clear problem that needed solving and having the foresight and confidence to jump in with both feet to develop a solution!

6:17

I ask Pierre's thoughts on why procurement is often misunderstood. Whether he sees it as a lack of corporate understanding of what procurement actually does, or whether culturally it's just that we're still seen as being an administrative function.

7:43

Technology is not the solution to all problems. If the organisational structure is immature and a CFO is too blinkered to acknowledge procurement performance beyond just hard savings, there's no magic bullet.

8:42

We discuss the dangers of only measuring cost savings, and what can be done about this in terms of wider value recognition.

10:22

Pierre explains how performance tracking can be expanded to other financial and value-driven contributions that are not as obviously visible in the P&amp;L.

12:56

There is a value bomb dropped here, around how small steps with value generation and achieving "more with less" can build trust on a longer term basis with key stakeholders.

15:10

We discuss mechanisms of how cost avoidance can be measured and recognised, and how designating and agreeing a model for this requires interdepartmental alignment right from the outset.

22:32

Is data quality imperative to get results and buy-in from using the tool? We talk about the issue of potential lack of consistency and reporting standards across different countries and business units.

26:22

Rounding off the interview, the benefits of open platforms and interconnectivity. There is much more flexibility when it comes to using best-of-breed solutions vs. a one-size-fits-all enterprise level procuretech software.

<strong>How to connect with Pierre:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierrelapree/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pierre's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.per-angusta.com/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Per Angusta website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Procurement has an image problem.

We're often seen as the department our stakeholders and business partners run to when they have a problem that requires an immediate reaction. We're often brought in to extinguish the fire extinguisher, but rarely to prevent them from happening.

So, how do we move from being a reactionary department seemingly in servitude to our stakeholders, to a better respected business partner that is seen as a value generator.

Part of the solution is making our contribution to the organisation better known and more visible. We're not just a department that fulfils our annual cost savings targets. We also provide a whole lot of other value that often goes unmeasured, but where individual business partners are more directly impacted.

It's here where we discuss how better awareness and communication of these initiatives, and a common mechanism to measure and track these, can make a huge difference to how procurement is perceived internally as a credible business partner.

My guest this week on the show is Pierre Laprée, CEO of Per Angusta. They're a French company who have developed and successfully implemented a tool that tracks total procurement performance in major businesses.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Measuring Procurement's True Value to the Business – Pierre Laprée from Per Angusta</strong></h2>
3:12

Pierre explains his background and how he went from Procurement Director to SaaS startup entrepreneur, by way of seeing a clear problem that needed solving and having the foresight and confidence to jump in with both feet to develop a solution!

6:17

I ask Pierre's thoughts on why procurement is often misunderstood. Whether he sees it as a lack of corporate understanding of what procurement actually does, or whether culturally it's just that we're still seen as being an administrative function.

7:43

Technology is not the solution to all problems. If the organisational structure is immature and a CFO is too blinkered to acknowledge procurement performance beyond just hard savings, there's no magic bullet.

8:42

We discuss the dangers of only measuring cost savings, and what can be done about this in terms of wider value recognition.

10:22

Pierre explains how performance tracking can be expanded to other financial and value-driven contributions that are not as obviously visible in the P&amp;L.

12:56

There is a value bomb dropped here, around how small steps with value generation and achieving "more with less" can build trust on a longer term basis with key stakeholders.

15:10

We discuss mechanisms of how cost avoidance can be measured and recognised, and how designating and agreeing a model for this requires interdepartmental alignment right from the outset.

22:32

Is data quality imperative to get results and buy-in from using the tool? We talk about the issue of potential lack of consistency and reporting standards across different countries and business units.

26:22

Rounding off the interview, the benefits of open platforms and interconnectivity. There is much more flexibility when it comes to using best-of-breed solutions vs. a one-size-fits-all enterprise level procuretech software.

<strong>How to connect with Pierre:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierrelapree/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pierre's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.per-angusta.com/en/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Per Angusta website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3a9f0f1b-1832-494d-8823-862a7550ef08</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7b46dbe9-bf9f-4aac-a070-34229f4aa135/episode-13-final-17.mp3" length="59591703" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Ensuring Digital Transformation Succeeds – Karthik Rama is the Procurement Doctor</title><itunes:title>Ensuring Digital Transformation Succeeds - Karthik Rama is the Procurement Doctor</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[We've often spoken about different software solutions and certain, specific areas of the Procurement flight deck which can be automated or digitised. Here, we're taking a step back and looking more holistically at dissecting a project from the conception, right the way through to after installation and commissioning has been completed and managing the performance of the vendor throughout the duration of the contract.

Sourcing a vendor, contracting with them, and then actually orchestrating an enterprise level digital transformation in procurement is no easy task.

My guest on this episode, Karthik Rama, who goes by the pseudonym "Procurement Doctor", has done this several times and shares his knowledge with us around what to consider when, and what the most common pitfalls are for the uninitiated.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Dissecting a Digital Transformation – Karthik Rama is the Procurement Doctor</strong></h2>
2:15

Karthik explains his unique skill set and how this has served him well when being able to communicate with both procurement and technical / IT stakeholders.

3:00

Assuming procurement has the ownership of this initiative, then at what point should the project manager involve IT and start building relationships with the function?

4:45

How to go about understanding the marketplace. With all of the market intelligence out there, is there a still a need to do an RFI?

8:04

We discuss organisational maturity and how this is such a key factor to the success or failure of a procurement digital transformation

9:23

How to tackle the obvious problem that no buyer is likely to be an expert on this type of software, unless they're coming from an organisation which has already implemented procuretech.

11:15

The most common mistakes made during the RFP / vendor selection phase, and how to avoid making them!

14:32

Karthik shares his experiences of how open SaaS vendors are to negotiation during the contract process?

15:58

The vital importance of having an A player heading up the implementation of a digital transformation, as opposed to somebody who just has the bandwidth from a workload perspective. Karthik also shares a nugget of advice around which role <em>specifically </em>could be the best person to lead the implementation.

18:55

What works best in terms of mix when it comes to outsourcing certain aspects of a complex implementation to consultants, versus which functions or aspects of the project are better retained in-house?

20:57

Potential issues or watch-outs which could be lurking out there post-implementation and why hypercare period is key to ensure a successful handover.

24:33

When the project has been handed over, how does the day-to-day governance work from that point onwards? What happens when there are issues? Which ones has Karthik seen most frequently?

27:28

Typical contact periods, and pros and cons of going for shorter or longer agreements.

29:23

<strong>How to connect with Karthik:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramakarthik/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Karthik's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[We've often spoken about different software solutions and certain, specific areas of the Procurement flight deck which can be automated or digitised. Here, we're taking a step back and looking more holistically at dissecting a project from the conception, right the way through to after installation and commissioning has been completed and managing the performance of the vendor throughout the duration of the contract.

Sourcing a vendor, contracting with them, and then actually orchestrating an enterprise level digital transformation in procurement is no easy task.

My guest on this episode, Karthik Rama, who goes by the pseudonym "Procurement Doctor", has done this several times and shares his knowledge with us around what to consider when, and what the most common pitfalls are for the uninitiated.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Dissecting a Digital Transformation – Karthik Rama is the Procurement Doctor</strong></h2>
2:15

Karthik explains his unique skill set and how this has served him well when being able to communicate with both procurement and technical / IT stakeholders.

3:00

Assuming procurement has the ownership of this initiative, then at what point should the project manager involve IT and start building relationships with the function?

4:45

How to go about understanding the marketplace. With all of the market intelligence out there, is there a still a need to do an RFI?

8:04

We discuss organisational maturity and how this is such a key factor to the success or failure of a procurement digital transformation

9:23

How to tackle the obvious problem that no buyer is likely to be an expert on this type of software, unless they're coming from an organisation which has already implemented procuretech.

11:15

The most common mistakes made during the RFP / vendor selection phase, and how to avoid making them!

14:32

Karthik shares his experiences of how open SaaS vendors are to negotiation during the contract process?

15:58

The vital importance of having an A player heading up the implementation of a digital transformation, as opposed to somebody who just has the bandwidth from a workload perspective. Karthik also shares a nugget of advice around which role <em>specifically </em>could be the best person to lead the implementation.

18:55

What works best in terms of mix when it comes to outsourcing certain aspects of a complex implementation to consultants, versus which functions or aspects of the project are better retained in-house?

20:57

Potential issues or watch-outs which could be lurking out there post-implementation and why hypercare period is key to ensure a successful handover.

24:33

When the project has been handed over, how does the day-to-day governance work from that point onwards? What happens when there are issues? Which ones has Karthik seen most frequently?

27:28

Typical contact periods, and pros and cons of going for shorter or longer agreements.

29:23

<strong>How to connect with Karthik:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramakarthik/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Karthik's LinkedIn profile</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9e8377fd-f8e3-419a-a46c-a213a91d5b58</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dfcb6ee8-3bef-4ddf-9251-7000856543f1/episode-12-karthik-rama.mp3" length="64679939" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Game Changing AI – Benoit Larrieu from Silex</title><itunes:title>Game Changing AI – Benoit Larrieu from Silex</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Technological capabilities are changing fast. While it can sometimes sound like a cliché, there are tasks which can be aided by robots now that can massively expand our knowledge and remove what previously would have been many hours of administrative work.

In this show, we dig into what artificial intelligence (AI) can do to aid sourcing and buying teams, and how machine learning and cognitive buying can expand our knowledge of the supply base, as well as removing many hours of work from the source-to-PO process.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Game Changing AI – Benoit Larrieu from Silex</strong></h2>
3:18

What actually is AI and what is the difference between AI and machine learning?

6:20

Benoit walks through a couple of practical examples of how a tool such as Silex can help procurement departments work more effectively by analysing the market's capabilities as well as all internal data on the incumbent supply base.

10:17

How "clustering" can enable sourcing teams to find potential suppliers on the market for specific items or components, in cases where a buyer may not have the necessary knowledge of the marketplace.

14:22

Benoit explains how Silex gathers market intelligence on so many different suppliers out there, enabling them to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the buyer.

15:53

We discuss how a tool such as this is not only used to derive greater savings. The real advantage is often seen as the ability to have greater market intelligence and a better synposis of the supply base in all countries.

18:34

How an AI-driven tool together with the human ability to think and evaluate effectively can be a killer combination when fuelling sourcing decisions.The consideration of total landed costs, coupled with the robot-powered intelligence of who can supply what in which country / region.

21:01

Using AI to serve both larger corporate clients as well as smaller businesses, and how it could potentially benefit both depending on the project and objectives.

22:48

How Silex can be used as a stand-alone tool with individual modules in the cloud, or can be integrated into customers' ERP systems.

25:51

What's next for Silex and how they plan to scale and grow their offering.

<strong>How to connect with Benoit:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoitlarrieu/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Benoit's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.silex.ai" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Silex website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Technological capabilities are changing fast. While it can sometimes sound like a cliché, there are tasks which can be aided by robots now that can massively expand our knowledge and remove what previously would have been many hours of administrative work.

In this show, we dig into what artificial intelligence (AI) can do to aid sourcing and buying teams, and how machine learning and cognitive buying can expand our knowledge of the supply base, as well as removing many hours of work from the source-to-PO process.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Game Changing AI – Benoit Larrieu from Silex</strong></h2>
3:18

What actually is AI and what is the difference between AI and machine learning?

6:20

Benoit walks through a couple of practical examples of how a tool such as Silex can help procurement departments work more effectively by analysing the market's capabilities as well as all internal data on the incumbent supply base.

10:17

How "clustering" can enable sourcing teams to find potential suppliers on the market for specific items or components, in cases where a buyer may not have the necessary knowledge of the marketplace.

14:22

Benoit explains how Silex gathers market intelligence on so many different suppliers out there, enabling them to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the buyer.

15:53

We discuss how a tool such as this is not only used to derive greater savings. The real advantage is often seen as the ability to have greater market intelligence and a better synposis of the supply base in all countries.

18:34

How an AI-driven tool together with the human ability to think and evaluate effectively can be a killer combination when fuelling sourcing decisions.The consideration of total landed costs, coupled with the robot-powered intelligence of who can supply what in which country / region.

21:01

Using AI to serve both larger corporate clients as well as smaller businesses, and how it could potentially benefit both depending on the project and objectives.

22:48

How Silex can be used as a stand-alone tool with individual modules in the cloud, or can be integrated into customers' ERP systems.

25:51

What's next for Silex and how they plan to scale and grow their offering.

<strong>How to connect with Benoit:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoitlarrieu/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Benoit's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.silex.ai" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Silex website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">161a3124-16ba-4cdf-aa50-1046d349602c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c16aaea0-cbe6-4141-9144-dc897435bbb1/episode-11-benoit-larrieu.mp3" length="58260085" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Marketing &amp; Promotional Spend – Sarah Scudder from Real Sourcing Network</title><itunes:title>Marketing &amp; Promotional Spend - Sarah Scudder from RSN</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Marketing spend is one of those areas which often goes untouched. While many larger companies don't have a policy of having procurement manage this spend, smaller companies and especially startups don't have in-house procurement teams but nonetheless, they still have a considerable marketing budget as they grow and scale as a business.

Enter Sarah Scudder, my guest on this podcast. Sarah is a marketing services procurement expert and also the co-founder of a software company which helps companies procure print media.

We dive into how most requests and POs for marketing spend are for print and promotional items. While this creates most of the work, it's often often not where the real value is delivered, this being high frequency but low PO value in nature. By optimising and automating this, marketing procurement can add more value on where the big bucks are spent, on digital and visual media.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Marketing &amp; Promotional Spend – Sarah Scudder from Real Sourcing Network</strong></h2>
2:47

Sarah explains how buying marketing services is different to many other categories, and how bringing procurement in to manage their vendors can often be contentious.

5:14

Why difficulty at the beginning to engage and persuade stakeholders shouldn't put you off, and why marketing spend is a huge untapped opportunity that has a great potential to bring home some fast savings.

6:49

Sarah sheds some light on why senior marketing leaders are often prickly when procurement want to come onto their patch and manage their spend.

8:41

Why digital media and print media, as the main big buckets of marketing spend in most companies, are 2 very different beasts.

10:35

We dig into some specifics of print media and how it fits into the classic 80/20 pareto of it being 20% of the spend but 80% of the workload and total vendor count.

13:18

Sarah introduces how sourceit as a tool can assist with reducing workload and making processes transparent when it comes to sourcing print media requirements, both as an internally hosted catalogue for frequently purchased items as well as a guided RFQ process for one-time buys.

17:30

Why print media has many different nuances that are tricky to take into consideration if you don't have a strong background in procuring the category, and how sourceit already take this into account as part of the guided RFQ process.

19:20

Sarah walks through how, unlike most e-sourcing solutions, sourceit offers a mixture of both an outsourced procurement service for organisations who don't have their won marketing procurement, as well as the SaaS product as a stand alone solution for bigger organisations who just want to increase their productivity.

21:40

We get down to talking turkey about how to convince the business to use this type of solution in terms of hard and soft benefits.

28:08

Now is a better time than ever to penetrate marketing organisations and reach out to gain influence over their spend, as budgets are cut and they are having to deliver more with less.

<strong>How to connect with Sarah:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-💁%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F-scudder-marketing-procurement-guru-9287404/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sarah's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://sourceithq.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">sourceit website</a>

<a href="https://rsnetwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Real Sourcing Network website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
&nbsp;]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Marketing spend is one of those areas which often goes untouched. While many larger companies don't have a policy of having procurement manage this spend, smaller companies and especially startups don't have in-house procurement teams but nonetheless, they still have a considerable marketing budget as they grow and scale as a business.

Enter Sarah Scudder, my guest on this podcast. Sarah is a marketing services procurement expert and also the co-founder of a software company which helps companies procure print media.

We dive into how most requests and POs for marketing spend are for print and promotional items. While this creates most of the work, it's often often not where the real value is delivered, this being high frequency but low PO value in nature. By optimising and automating this, marketing procurement can add more value on where the big bucks are spent, on digital and visual media.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Marketing &amp; Promotional Spend – Sarah Scudder from Real Sourcing Network</strong></h2>
2:47

Sarah explains how buying marketing services is different to many other categories, and how bringing procurement in to manage their vendors can often be contentious.

5:14

Why difficulty at the beginning to engage and persuade stakeholders shouldn't put you off, and why marketing spend is a huge untapped opportunity that has a great potential to bring home some fast savings.

6:49

Sarah sheds some light on why senior marketing leaders are often prickly when procurement want to come onto their patch and manage their spend.

8:41

Why digital media and print media, as the main big buckets of marketing spend in most companies, are 2 very different beasts.

10:35

We dig into some specifics of print media and how it fits into the classic 80/20 pareto of it being 20% of the spend but 80% of the workload and total vendor count.

13:18

Sarah introduces how sourceit as a tool can assist with reducing workload and making processes transparent when it comes to sourcing print media requirements, both as an internally hosted catalogue for frequently purchased items as well as a guided RFQ process for one-time buys.

17:30

Why print media has many different nuances that are tricky to take into consideration if you don't have a strong background in procuring the category, and how sourceit already take this into account as part of the guided RFQ process.

19:20

Sarah walks through how, unlike most e-sourcing solutions, sourceit offers a mixture of both an outsourced procurement service for organisations who don't have their won marketing procurement, as well as the SaaS product as a stand alone solution for bigger organisations who just want to increase their productivity.

21:40

We get down to talking turkey about how to convince the business to use this type of solution in terms of hard and soft benefits.

28:08

Now is a better time than ever to penetrate marketing organisations and reach out to gain influence over their spend, as budgets are cut and they are having to deliver more with less.

<strong>How to connect with Sarah:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-💁%E2%80%8D♀%EF%B8%8F-scudder-marketing-procurement-guru-9287404/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sarah's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://sourceithq.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">sourceit website</a>

<a href="https://rsnetwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Real Sourcing Network website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>
&nbsp;]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b3225f62-ba3f-4769-9a20-3e528f30598e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e83532d6-6bd5-4eb2-b7f6-7427879ebbb1/episode-10-sarah-scudder.mp3" length="60356569" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Contract Management – Daniel Barnes from Ikaros Consultancy</title><itunes:title>Contract Management - Daniel Barnes from Ikaros Consultancy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Managing contracts can be a massive time suck but also an often under-utilised way of mining for gold when it comes to discovering savings opportunities.

In this podcast, I speak to Daniel Barnes of Ikaros Consultancy. Daniel is a law graduate and also recently launched his own podcast, World of Procurement.

We talk about how the human touch, combined with automation of repetitive tasks, is the best solution when considering how to best manage your supplier contracts.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Contract Management – Daniel Barnes from Ikaros Consultancy</strong></h2>
2:42

Daniel explains how he landed into the contract management space in the procurement world.

6:30

How Daniel took his experience working on government defence contracts and was able to take these key learnings into the private sector and civilian industries.

7:38

Are there significant differences in approach when considering smaller businesses versus larger corporates?

9:45

How the technology and resources could be different depending on the size of the business and the amount of contracts processed in any given organisation.

11:28

I ask Daniel whether it's better to approach contract management by size of spend basis first and foremost, or by category. The answer he gave was not what I was expecting.

13:20

A funny story of the building with no windows which nonetheless had £100k of invoices for replacement of windows.

16:00

We talk technology, and the advantages and limitations of using tech to be able to make contract management easier.

20:52

Why a digital contract management solution will only work if your organisation is ready to embrace it and your existing systems and processes can support it.

22:40

How to build a business case for a contract management solution. Is it primarily cost avoidance? And if so, how to convince a CFO to part with their budget to implement a solution to successfully manage it?

25:52

Does operational and tactical procurement have a future? Daniel has some pretty strong views on how these roles will likely be eliminated over the coming years.

<strong>How to connect with Daniel:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielbarnesgsd/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Daniel's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://ikaros.uk.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ikaros Consultancy website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Managing contracts can be a massive time suck but also an often under-utilised way of mining for gold when it comes to discovering savings opportunities.

In this podcast, I speak to Daniel Barnes of Ikaros Consultancy. Daniel is a law graduate and also recently launched his own podcast, World of Procurement.

We talk about how the human touch, combined with automation of repetitive tasks, is the best solution when considering how to best manage your supplier contracts.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Contract Management – Daniel Barnes from Ikaros Consultancy</strong></h2>
2:42

Daniel explains how he landed into the contract management space in the procurement world.

6:30

How Daniel took his experience working on government defence contracts and was able to take these key learnings into the private sector and civilian industries.

7:38

Are there significant differences in approach when considering smaller businesses versus larger corporates?

9:45

How the technology and resources could be different depending on the size of the business and the amount of contracts processed in any given organisation.

11:28

I ask Daniel whether it's better to approach contract management by size of spend basis first and foremost, or by category. The answer he gave was not what I was expecting.

13:20

A funny story of the building with no windows which nonetheless had £100k of invoices for replacement of windows.

16:00

We talk technology, and the advantages and limitations of using tech to be able to make contract management easier.

20:52

Why a digital contract management solution will only work if your organisation is ready to embrace it and your existing systems and processes can support it.

22:40

How to build a business case for a contract management solution. Is it primarily cost avoidance? And if so, how to convince a CFO to part with their budget to implement a solution to successfully manage it?

25:52

Does operational and tactical procurement have a future? Daniel has some pretty strong views on how these roles will likely be eliminated over the coming years.

<strong>How to connect with Daniel:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielbarnesgsd/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Daniel's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://ikaros.uk.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ikaros Consultancy website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3a583dbf-4576-41f6-a45f-176a050c058b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c73d287c-acac-48de-8cb9-e1604106e146/episode-9-daniel-barnes.mp3" length="60542978" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Source-to-Contract Tech 101 – Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</title><itunes:title>Source-to-Contract Tech 101 - Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Before you can go out there and run a tender and select a provider for all of your digital transformation and procuretech requirements, you need to have an overview of what's out there, and what differentiates the different providers and types of software, right?

So, that's why I invited Joël Collin-Demers on the show to give us a Source-to-Contract 101 lesson so as you can get a broad knowledge of what type of solutions are on offer.

Joël is a Source-to-Pay (S2P) expert and consultant from Montréal, Canada and has extensive knowledge gained in this field from his time in large organisations.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Source-to-Contract Tech 101 – Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</strong></h2>
2:39

"An expert is someone who has seen all of the mistakes you can do in a narrow field" - Joël explains how his experience in consulting makes him a prime candidate to advise clients on their digital procurement requirements.

3:31

Why enterprise level ERP systems such as SAP and Oracle are not necessarily the best systems for procurement teams to pull the data they need.

7:26

Joël explains the difference between P2P and S2C (because I hate acronyms!) in terms of what different pieces of software can do.

10:23

Why traditional ERP systems are great for doing operational purchasing requirements but are less smart at performing strategic procurement tasks.

11:20

How procuretech solutions can be applied both as a complementary function to a legacy ERP system, as well as a stand-alone solution in smaller businesses, and what potential pitfalls need to be considered.

13:53

How different solutions may be required depending on the size of the business, and how this can impact the technical requirements necessary for implementation.

16:23

Is it better for immature procurement organisations to approach this differently and take baby steps first, before going down a complete enterprise level solution?

19:29

We talk about the people factor, and how this is essential in ensuring a successful transformation.

20:33

Optimising resources to be able to take staff from operational or tactical roles into performing more strategic functions, the challenges around doing this, and the importance of having IT alignment when undertaking a digital transformation.

22:39

Joël explains what the next steps should be once there is IT alignment and budget has been signed off, through to the point where you actually select a vendor and move into contracting.

26:16

Why it's vital to do one specific piece of due diligence that many companies simply miss out of their sourcing process, and why it's not as hard as many buyers perceive it to be.

<strong>How to connect with Joël:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcollindemers/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Joel's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.pureprocurement.ca" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pure Procurement website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Before you can go out there and run a tender and select a provider for all of your digital transformation and procuretech requirements, you need to have an overview of what's out there, and what differentiates the different providers and types of software, right?

So, that's why I invited Joël Collin-Demers on the show to give us a Source-to-Contract 101 lesson so as you can get a broad knowledge of what type of solutions are on offer.

Joël is a Source-to-Pay (S2P) expert and consultant from Montréal, Canada and has extensive knowledge gained in this field from his time in large organisations.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Source-to-Contract Tech 101 – Joël Collin-Demers from Pure Procurement</strong></h2>
2:39

"An expert is someone who has seen all of the mistakes you can do in a narrow field" - Joël explains how his experience in consulting makes him a prime candidate to advise clients on their digital procurement requirements.

3:31

Why enterprise level ERP systems such as SAP and Oracle are not necessarily the best systems for procurement teams to pull the data they need.

7:26

Joël explains the difference between P2P and S2C (because I hate acronyms!) in terms of what different pieces of software can do.

10:23

Why traditional ERP systems are great for doing operational purchasing requirements but are less smart at performing strategic procurement tasks.

11:20

How procuretech solutions can be applied both as a complementary function to a legacy ERP system, as well as a stand-alone solution in smaller businesses, and what potential pitfalls need to be considered.

13:53

How different solutions may be required depending on the size of the business, and how this can impact the technical requirements necessary for implementation.

16:23

Is it better for immature procurement organisations to approach this differently and take baby steps first, before going down a complete enterprise level solution?

19:29

We talk about the people factor, and how this is essential in ensuring a successful transformation.

20:33

Optimising resources to be able to take staff from operational or tactical roles into performing more strategic functions, the challenges around doing this, and the importance of having IT alignment when undertaking a digital transformation.

22:39

Joël explains what the next steps should be once there is IT alignment and budget has been signed off, through to the point where you actually select a vendor and move into contracting.

26:16

Why it's vital to do one specific piece of due diligence that many companies simply miss out of their sourcing process, and why it's not as hard as many buyers perceive it to be.

<strong>How to connect with Joël:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelcollindemers/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Joel's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://www.pureprocurement.ca" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pure Procurement website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e1988ae0-7a9f-4de2-8a27-7db39b5d5619</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b8b3cb15-1c26-483e-9b4a-a33334591418/episode-8-joel-collin-demers.mp3" length="61494254" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Using Tech in Group Purchasing Orgs – Anthony Clervi from Una</title><itunes:title>Using Tech in Group Purchasing Orgs – Anthony Clervi from Una</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Anthony is the CEO of Una, a US-based group purchasing organisation from Kansas City. He joins me on this episode of the podcast to explain how digital procurement initiatives don't necessarily need to be complex.

It's all about leveraging technology + expertise to hit the sweet spot of saving client organisations both time and money when it comes to managing tail spend with vendors where the buyer would otherwise not have a great deal of buying power.

If you're a "C" customer to some of your low spend, non-strategic suppliers and you wished you could get better prices or service from them, this episode should answer some of your questions and curiosities about how group buying could be one solution.

He also loves the term "Sourcing Hero", as you'll find out when you listen to the podcast!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">The Power of Group Buying: Pooling your Non-Strategic Spend to save Costs and Time</strong></h2>
1:47

How Anthony became involved with the Una setup and who they serve as their client base.

4:06

We dig into how group purchasing is not a new concept per se, and how Una's model has put a unique spin on how to best serve the downtrodden "Sourcing Hero".

8:34

Who Una focuses on with their client acquisition strategy, and what they see as the key strategy areas where a GPO model can add the most value to a small, under-resourced procurement team.

10:00

Some of the challenges encountered when selling the advantages of a GPO to potential clients, and how educating the prospective client is often a major factor in convincing them that there really can be a win-win outcome to combining spend to leverage better pricing from otherwise non-core categories.

12:49

Why a consultative and educational approach can allow clients to concentrate on more strategic categories of spend, while relinquishing control of the long tail of non-core spend can deliver ongoing savings and a well-managed process virtually on auto pilot.

15:07

The 3 ways how a buyer &amp; supplier matching service such as a GPO can potentially make money, and how Una approaches this with their business model.

18:35

The approach Una takes to offering up-sell services in cases where clients may be seeking a more hands-on approach to strategic sourcing support and consulting services.

20:15

How Una plans to expand and grow, utilising technological developments which can be leveraged to better manage client and supplier data.

22:06

That old chestnut...DATA QUALITY...that just keeps coming up!!

<strong>How to connect with Anthony:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyclervi" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://anthonyclervi.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's personal brand website</a>

<a href="https://una.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Una's website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Anthony is the CEO of Una, a US-based group purchasing organisation from Kansas City. He joins me on this episode of the podcast to explain how digital procurement initiatives don't necessarily need to be complex.

It's all about leveraging technology + expertise to hit the sweet spot of saving client organisations both time and money when it comes to managing tail spend with vendors where the buyer would otherwise not have a great deal of buying power.

If you're a "C" customer to some of your low spend, non-strategic suppliers and you wished you could get better prices or service from them, this episode should answer some of your questions and curiosities about how group buying could be one solution.

He also loves the term "Sourcing Hero", as you'll find out when you listen to the podcast!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">The Power of Group Buying: Pooling your Non-Strategic Spend to save Costs and Time</strong></h2>
1:47

How Anthony became involved with the Una setup and who they serve as their client base.

4:06

We dig into how group purchasing is not a new concept per se, and how Una's model has put a unique spin on how to best serve the downtrodden "Sourcing Hero".

8:34

Who Una focuses on with their client acquisition strategy, and what they see as the key strategy areas where a GPO model can add the most value to a small, under-resourced procurement team.

10:00

Some of the challenges encountered when selling the advantages of a GPO to potential clients, and how educating the prospective client is often a major factor in convincing them that there really can be a win-win outcome to combining spend to leverage better pricing from otherwise non-core categories.

12:49

Why a consultative and educational approach can allow clients to concentrate on more strategic categories of spend, while relinquishing control of the long tail of non-core spend can deliver ongoing savings and a well-managed process virtually on auto pilot.

15:07

The 3 ways how a buyer &amp; supplier matching service such as a GPO can potentially make money, and how Una approaches this with their business model.

18:35

The approach Una takes to offering up-sell services in cases where clients may be seeking a more hands-on approach to strategic sourcing support and consulting services.

20:15

How Una plans to expand and grow, utilising technological developments which can be leveraged to better manage client and supplier data.

22:06

That old chestnut...DATA QUALITY...that just keeps coming up!!

<strong>How to connect with Anthony:</strong>

<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyclervi" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's LinkedIn profile</a>

<a href="https://anthonyclervi.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Anthony's personal brand website</a>

<a href="https://una.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Una's website</a>
<h3><strong>Stay in touch!</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">117c8d92-8972-4d42-995b-f359ef34350c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a8c34bf9-6e90-4c9e-adf5-7be579cf6063/episode-7-anthony-clervi-una.mp3" length="55074400" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Supply Chain Digitisation – Sarah Barnes-Humphrey from Let’s Talk Supply Chain</title><itunes:title>Supply Chain Digitisation - Sarah Barnes-Humphrey from Let&apos;s Talk Supply Chain</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Sarah from Let's Talk Supply Chain and Shipz joined me for a great chat about how digital trends are shaping the wider supply chain industry, and how procurement fits neatly into that. We both agree that increased collaboration and the developing trend of both functions reporting into the same line can only be a good thing when it comes to better alignment of business objectives and delivering value to organisations.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Supply Chain Digitisation - Sarah Barnes-Humphrey from Let's Talk Supply Chain</strong></h2>
2:01

Sarah's story of how she went from the family business to Let's Talk Supply Chain as a stand alone full-time business and how this has spawned various spin-offs and sub-niches.

6:00

Is Supply Chain ahead of the curve with digitalisation versus Procurement?

10:10

We talk about the concept of a Chief Value Officer as Head of both SC and Procurement, and how continuity of supply and cost savings could be meshed into one overarching objective for both functions to deliver. This joined up thinking could drive benefits across the business through better alignment of objectives.

12:01

Procurement's lack of involvement in managing the spend of the Supply Chain function and how this total cost of operation is still quite siloed in many organisations, with often minimal procurement involvement in the supplier relationship management of logistics vendors.

13:56

How can technology help to propel Supply Chain out of the Covid-19 crisis? What types of innovations could be key?

16:05

Sarah touches on issues with legacy 3PL IT systems, and we talk about how a lot of 3PL and 4PL vendors don't have fully integrated systems across all functions and how this can lead to a data deficit when evaluating optimisation opportunities.

18:00

We talk about 2 possible scenarios to deal with increased supply chain volatility in future, and the different potential consequences depending on which of these approaches an organisation decides to take.

19:50

Will more statistical modelling become popular when it comes to considering total LIFETIME cost, considering aspects such as TCO, risk management, capex investment and impact on inventory held? What other technology is out there already which will be adopted much faster by organisations when we emerge from the crisis?

23:23

We discuss how innovation is driving the trend for larger companies to partner with and get to know innovative startups. The future will likely see more collaboration in this space between medium-sized companies and startups, rather than just large corporates, in order to ensure they don't get left behind.

25:20

How being forced into remote work is actually proving to be popular and is likely to become mainstream post Covid-19.

26:08

We touch on the remote work and geo-arbitrage opportunities that this could drive and how this could be of benefit to both employer and employee from a cost perspective.

27:37

Sarah talks about her new startup which helps to match SME shippers with ocean and airfreight forwarders, her goal and vision for the business and how it plugs a gap in the current market.

<strong>How to connect with Sarah:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahbarnescitp" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.letstalksupplychain.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Let's Talk Supply Chain website</a> (includes links to podcast and YouTube channel)</li>
 	<li>Shipz website</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Sarah from Let's Talk Supply Chain and Shipz joined me for a great chat about how digital trends are shaping the wider supply chain industry, and how procurement fits neatly into that. We both agree that increased collaboration and the developing trend of both functions reporting into the same line can only be a good thing when it comes to better alignment of business objectives and delivering value to organisations.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Supply Chain Digitisation - Sarah Barnes-Humphrey from Let's Talk Supply Chain</strong></h2>
2:01

Sarah's story of how she went from the family business to Let's Talk Supply Chain as a stand alone full-time business and how this has spawned various spin-offs and sub-niches.

6:00

Is Supply Chain ahead of the curve with digitalisation versus Procurement?

10:10

We talk about the concept of a Chief Value Officer as Head of both SC and Procurement, and how continuity of supply and cost savings could be meshed into one overarching objective for both functions to deliver. This joined up thinking could drive benefits across the business through better alignment of objectives.

12:01

Procurement's lack of involvement in managing the spend of the Supply Chain function and how this total cost of operation is still quite siloed in many organisations, with often minimal procurement involvement in the supplier relationship management of logistics vendors.

13:56

How can technology help to propel Supply Chain out of the Covid-19 crisis? What types of innovations could be key?

16:05

Sarah touches on issues with legacy 3PL IT systems, and we talk about how a lot of 3PL and 4PL vendors don't have fully integrated systems across all functions and how this can lead to a data deficit when evaluating optimisation opportunities.

18:00

We talk about 2 possible scenarios to deal with increased supply chain volatility in future, and the different potential consequences depending on which of these approaches an organisation decides to take.

19:50

Will more statistical modelling become popular when it comes to considering total LIFETIME cost, considering aspects such as TCO, risk management, capex investment and impact on inventory held? What other technology is out there already which will be adopted much faster by organisations when we emerge from the crisis?

23:23

We discuss how innovation is driving the trend for larger companies to partner with and get to know innovative startups. The future will likely see more collaboration in this space between medium-sized companies and startups, rather than just large corporates, in order to ensure they don't get left behind.

25:20

How being forced into remote work is actually proving to be popular and is likely to become mainstream post Covid-19.

26:08

We touch on the remote work and geo-arbitrage opportunities that this could drive and how this could be of benefit to both employer and employee from a cost perspective.

27:37

Sarah talks about her new startup which helps to match SME shippers with ocean and airfreight forwarders, her goal and vision for the business and how it plugs a gap in the current market.

<strong>How to connect with Sarah:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahbarnescitp" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.letstalksupplychain.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Let's Talk Supply Chain website</a> (includes links to podcast and YouTube channel)</li>
 	<li>Shipz website</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ef63ea6e-25f0-462b-9b5f-d8f13d2ff62e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/19f5a132-3a39-4ea2-9ccf-71f879ff8693/episode-6-sarah-bh-lets-talk-supply-chain.mp3" length="63110920" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Fixing Dirty Data – Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru</title><itunes:title>Fixing Dirty Data - Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru, bringing you affordable solutions to clean up your data before undertaking any digital transformation project.

Dirty data is the scourge of most organisations, both large and small. We discuss the approach, the root causes of poor data, what to do about it, and how maintaining key data is the key. Doing it once and then washing your hands of the problem is a recipe for disaster!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Fixing your Dirty Data - Get your data classified, so you can deliver savings opportunities or commence your digital transformation</strong></h2>
2:05

Susan's story of how she became a data specialist, from quite an unconventional work experience history!

6:45

Why starting with the basics and making data FUN is core to Susan's approach to data.

7:25

Where to get started if you're a complete beginner to the topic of cleaning your data. A "Data 101" of how to get the basics in place and what the best first steps to take should be.

9:20

Consistency is key - the first rule of data classification. Using a master taxonomy that sits above any local level data classification.

10:12

The first step: Supplier normalisation (vendor master harmonisation) to remove duplicate records of the same vendor.

11:31

Once vendor records have been harmonised, Susan then explains how the next steps are really dependent upon the client's setup and to what level of detail they wish to categorise their data.

13:32

What is the recommended programme for ongoing follow-up and data cleansing reviews? We dig in to how much ongoing maintenance is necessary, depending on the specifics of each case.

15:49

Proactive roles which can be playes to ensure data governance is given the necessary importance in roles and responsibilities throughout teams.

18:58

Susan gives her best answer to anyone facing the conundrum of how to put together a business case for senior leaders to sign off on the costs of a data cleansing initiative.

20:58

The opportunity cost question: Is it more cost effective to do this in-house? Why would you task your category managers or procurement analysts with this, when it's not their core job?

22:30

Ownership of data (or lack of!) Why this conundrum scuppers most organisations, and what can be done to change this. Where should data ownership sit, especially in a larger organisation?

24:29

The role that a Chief Data Officer could play in future, and how this could disarm some of the politics of "who's data is this anyway"?

<strong>Useful Links:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://artofprocurement.com/episode301/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Art of Procurement Episode 301</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with Susan:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.theclassificationguru.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Classification Guru website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanewalsh" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Susan's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Susan Walsh is The Classification Guru, bringing you affordable solutions to clean up your data before undertaking any digital transformation project.

Dirty data is the scourge of most organisations, both large and small. We discuss the approach, the root causes of poor data, what to do about it, and how maintaining key data is the key. Doing it once and then washing your hands of the problem is a recipe for disaster!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Fixing your Dirty Data - Get your data classified, so you can deliver savings opportunities or commence your digital transformation</strong></h2>
2:05

Susan's story of how she became a data specialist, from quite an unconventional work experience history!

6:45

Why starting with the basics and making data FUN is core to Susan's approach to data.

7:25

Where to get started if you're a complete beginner to the topic of cleaning your data. A "Data 101" of how to get the basics in place and what the best first steps to take should be.

9:20

Consistency is key - the first rule of data classification. Using a master taxonomy that sits above any local level data classification.

10:12

The first step: Supplier normalisation (vendor master harmonisation) to remove duplicate records of the same vendor.

11:31

Once vendor records have been harmonised, Susan then explains how the next steps are really dependent upon the client's setup and to what level of detail they wish to categorise their data.

13:32

What is the recommended programme for ongoing follow-up and data cleansing reviews? We dig in to how much ongoing maintenance is necessary, depending on the specifics of each case.

15:49

Proactive roles which can be playes to ensure data governance is given the necessary importance in roles and responsibilities throughout teams.

18:58

Susan gives her best answer to anyone facing the conundrum of how to put together a business case for senior leaders to sign off on the costs of a data cleansing initiative.

20:58

The opportunity cost question: Is it more cost effective to do this in-house? Why would you task your category managers or procurement analysts with this, when it's not their core job?

22:30

Ownership of data (or lack of!) Why this conundrum scuppers most organisations, and what can be done to change this. Where should data ownership sit, especially in a larger organisation?

24:29

The role that a Chief Data Officer could play in future, and how this could disarm some of the politics of "who's data is this anyway"?

<strong>Useful Links:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://artofprocurement.com/episode301/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Art of Procurement Episode 301</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with Susan:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.theclassificationguru.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Classification Guru website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanewalsh" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Susan's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">411d4a22-78cc-4d1f-a0ba-ea56b7b4b892</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/20bef21d-648e-42ae-8926-71f943f3f6ca/episode-5-susan-walsh-the-classification-guru.mp3" length="56976115" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Smart Vendor Data – Stephany Lapierre from Tealbook</title><itunes:title>Smart Vendor Data - Stephany Lapierre from Tealbook</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Stephany Lapierre from rapidly-growing supplier data startup Tealbook joins me on this week's episode of The Procuretech Podcast.

We talk about all things machine learning when it comes to getting clean, meaningful vendor data without the need for "push" based solutions from vendors or master data analysts.

With poor data and lack of in-house resources or capabilities often cited as a major objection to why firms decide not to purchase enterprise level procuretech for their digital transformation initiatives, this one is a real game changer.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Vendor Data: Single Source Of Truth - Stephany Lapierre From Tealbook</strong></h2>
1:31

The spark behind what drove Stephany to found Tealbook

4:18

Educating executives of hyper-growth companies of the importance of procurement early on in their growth journey

5:32

What the biggest inhibitor was for these companies when it came to making trusted decisions.

7:31

Why getting 100% visibility of who you do business with, and who you SHOULD do business with, is vital.

9:10

How Tealbook uses big data and machine learning to clean and enrich supplier data, and how this removes reliance on "push" systems of vendor master data management.

11:05

The "eureka" moment for Tealbook and the pivot which changed their direction.

14:14

When you have good data, then the opportunities of what you can utilise it for are endless.

15:06

Case study of improvement in supplier diversity data. Using Tealbook's machine learning dug up 1,600 additional suppliers that were missed through internal audit / validation system in a Fortune 500 company's native reporting mechanism.

17:22

Why digital transformation doesn't succeed on its own, and why poor data will ultimately scupper any enterprise level procuretech software implementation.

18:21

Tealbook as the data foundation that powers the software market, rather than a stand-alone solution.

20:20

If your supplier date is independently in the cloud and is self-enriching, then just plug it in to a 2-way integration. No IT resources or ERP integration necessary.

23:32

Partnering with the larger S2P and P2P software providers, and how this strategy will ultimately help the software providers to remove a common objection (poor vendor data) to signing up to a contract with them.

26:29

Grab your free supplier report for Covid-19 mitigation efforts.

29:20

Webinar series --&gt; check out Tealbook's website for more info.

<strong>How to connect with Stephany and Tealbook:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tealbook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stephany's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/tealbook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tealbook's LinkedIn Page</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://tealbook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tealbook website</a></li>
 	<li>Free Report to help with Covid-19 mitigation</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Stephany Lapierre from rapidly-growing supplier data startup Tealbook joins me on this week's episode of The Procuretech Podcast.

We talk about all things machine learning when it comes to getting clean, meaningful vendor data without the need for "push" based solutions from vendors or master data analysts.

With poor data and lack of in-house resources or capabilities often cited as a major objection to why firms decide not to purchase enterprise level procuretech for their digital transformation initiatives, this one is a real game changer.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Vendor Data: Single Source Of Truth - Stephany Lapierre From Tealbook</strong></h2>
1:31

The spark behind what drove Stephany to found Tealbook

4:18

Educating executives of hyper-growth companies of the importance of procurement early on in their growth journey

5:32

What the biggest inhibitor was for these companies when it came to making trusted decisions.

7:31

Why getting 100% visibility of who you do business with, and who you SHOULD do business with, is vital.

9:10

How Tealbook uses big data and machine learning to clean and enrich supplier data, and how this removes reliance on "push" systems of vendor master data management.

11:05

The "eureka" moment for Tealbook and the pivot which changed their direction.

14:14

When you have good data, then the opportunities of what you can utilise it for are endless.

15:06

Case study of improvement in supplier diversity data. Using Tealbook's machine learning dug up 1,600 additional suppliers that were missed through internal audit / validation system in a Fortune 500 company's native reporting mechanism.

17:22

Why digital transformation doesn't succeed on its own, and why poor data will ultimately scupper any enterprise level procuretech software implementation.

18:21

Tealbook as the data foundation that powers the software market, rather than a stand-alone solution.

20:20

If your supplier date is independently in the cloud and is self-enriching, then just plug it in to a 2-way integration. No IT resources or ERP integration necessary.

23:32

Partnering with the larger S2P and P2P software providers, and how this strategy will ultimately help the software providers to remove a common objection (poor vendor data) to signing up to a contract with them.

26:29

Grab your free supplier report for Covid-19 mitigation efforts.

29:20

Webinar series --&gt; check out Tealbook's website for more info.

<strong>How to connect with Stephany and Tealbook:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tealbook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stephany's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/tealbook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tealbook's LinkedIn Page</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://tealbook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tealbook website</a></li>
 	<li>Free Report to help with Covid-19 mitigation</li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ad81c633-acc6-4825-84b5-9e83a4fadb21</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f4b083f9-0c8a-4b53-a0bb-5a7ac6267108/episode-4-stephany-lapierre-tealbook.mp3" length="62682930" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Deep Diving into Analytics – Eddie McGeachie from Seaforth Analytics</title><itunes:title>Deep Diving into Analytics - Eddie McGeachie from Seaforth Analytics</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Eddie McGeachie from Seaforth Analytics and Accelerated Insight joins me on The Procuretech Podcast today to discuss how data and supply chain analytics have shaped his career over the years.

We dive into how his company now helps boutique procurement consultancies and direct clients to understand the data from disparate systems and formats, and how understanding data .

I've long been a proponent of getting your data ducks in a row, so this was one long, golden nugget of an interview for me. So much so that I just let Eddie keep dropping bombs of value, and even after a fair bit of editing I was still about 10 minutes over our usual episode length!

Warning: If you're not a native English speaker, you might have to listen slowly to understand Eddie's Glaswegian accent - it's a tough dialect! - but you will get TONS to ponder after listening to this.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Agile Analytics: How Seaforth Analytics' solutions deliver cost modelling and savings across diverse sectors</strong></h2>
1:45

Eddie explains how his long and successful career eventually led him to the Supply Chain Analytics space.

5:32

Good fortune allowed Eddie to be in a job where he was given the freedom to work 25% of his time on passion projects. Learn what he decided to work on.

7:08

Getting the basics in place first. I offer up 3 fundamentals of what every procurement department should get in order and then ask Eddie for his take. His answer was not what I expected: surprising but very insightful.

9:10

Eddie explains the importance of procurement and supply chain having a presence at the top table, both to increase influence and to be seen as a value driver rather than an overhead.

11:29

Why being able to understand the same language that all stakeholders speak and being able to "get" where each department or affected party is coming from is vital

14:00

Eddie explains the value of finding the pivotal person in any organisation at the beginning. The person who understands at source what data and queries can be pulled from the existing systems in place. Usually, he mentions, they don't sit in procurement.

17:03

I ask who are Seaforth's client base typically and what different type of products and services are on offer.

17:58

Is the analysis performed a one-off exercise, or can they integrate with existing ERP systems?

19:10

How the Accelerated Insight tool brought together 150 disparate files on one procurement transformation project, and why having the data on its own is not enough. You need to understand what the data is actually telling you.

20:58

We discuss the bane of free text POs and how to make the best of a bad situation with imperfect data. Eddie provides an example of how this led to spotting a valuable irregularity, or can also be used to spot patterns of potential fraudulent transactions.

26:30

I ask whether there are specific categories which are better suited to their tools and analytics.

28:20

How price anomalies can be easily exposed from the analytics they can run, without the need to manually check invoices at first.

29:35

We discuss whether these findings can apply to direct or indirect materials alike.

31:34

Why Eddie believes that data science techniques and fundamentals should possibly be part of the CIPS qualification or at least general procurement onboarding training in large corporates.

<strong>How can you get in touch with Eddie?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.accelerated-insight.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Accelerated Insights website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.myseaforth.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Seaforth Analytics website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-mcgeachie-879b341/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Eddie's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:edward.mcgeachie@myseaforth.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Contact Eddie by email</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Eddie McGeachie from Seaforth Analytics and Accelerated Insight joins me on The Procuretech Podcast today to discuss how data and supply chain analytics have shaped his career over the years.

We dive into how his company now helps boutique procurement consultancies and direct clients to understand the data from disparate systems and formats, and how understanding data .

I've long been a proponent of getting your data ducks in a row, so this was one long, golden nugget of an interview for me. So much so that I just let Eddie keep dropping bombs of value, and even after a fair bit of editing I was still about 10 minutes over our usual episode length!

Warning: If you're not a native English speaker, you might have to listen slowly to understand Eddie's Glaswegian accent - it's a tough dialect! - but you will get TONS to ponder after listening to this.
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Agile Analytics: How Seaforth Analytics' solutions deliver cost modelling and savings across diverse sectors</strong></h2>
1:45

Eddie explains how his long and successful career eventually led him to the Supply Chain Analytics space.

5:32

Good fortune allowed Eddie to be in a job where he was given the freedom to work 25% of his time on passion projects. Learn what he decided to work on.

7:08

Getting the basics in place first. I offer up 3 fundamentals of what every procurement department should get in order and then ask Eddie for his take. His answer was not what I expected: surprising but very insightful.

9:10

Eddie explains the importance of procurement and supply chain having a presence at the top table, both to increase influence and to be seen as a value driver rather than an overhead.

11:29

Why being able to understand the same language that all stakeholders speak and being able to "get" where each department or affected party is coming from is vital

14:00

Eddie explains the value of finding the pivotal person in any organisation at the beginning. The person who understands at source what data and queries can be pulled from the existing systems in place. Usually, he mentions, they don't sit in procurement.

17:03

I ask who are Seaforth's client base typically and what different type of products and services are on offer.

17:58

Is the analysis performed a one-off exercise, or can they integrate with existing ERP systems?

19:10

How the Accelerated Insight tool brought together 150 disparate files on one procurement transformation project, and why having the data on its own is not enough. You need to understand what the data is actually telling you.

20:58

We discuss the bane of free text POs and how to make the best of a bad situation with imperfect data. Eddie provides an example of how this led to spotting a valuable irregularity, or can also be used to spot patterns of potential fraudulent transactions.

26:30

I ask whether there are specific categories which are better suited to their tools and analytics.

28:20

How price anomalies can be easily exposed from the analytics they can run, without the need to manually check invoices at first.

29:35

We discuss whether these findings can apply to direct or indirect materials alike.

31:34

Why Eddie believes that data science techniques and fundamentals should possibly be part of the CIPS qualification or at least general procurement onboarding training in large corporates.

<strong>How can you get in touch with Eddie?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.accelerated-insight.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Accelerated Insights website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.myseaforth.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Seaforth Analytics website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-mcgeachie-879b341/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Eddie's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:edward.mcgeachie@myseaforth.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Contact Eddie by email</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">94ece46e-58bb-480f-883a-45ff4335b9a2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cf2fde93-e6f7-4c41-b62c-fc3e554a0ef1/episode-3-eddie-mcgeachie-seaforth-analytics.mp3" length="69815821" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Managing Project Spend – Tarmo Saidla from Procurement Flow</title><itunes:title>Managing Project Spend - Tarmo Saidla from Procurement Flow</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Tarmo Saidla joins me from Procurement Flow, an Estonian startup focusing on:
<ul>
 	<li>Making workflows more visible for procurement and requisitioners</li>
 	<li>Keeping budgets under control for CFOs</li>
 	<li>Allowing project managers to keep track in real time of what in the process their requisitions for materials and services are at.</li>
</ul><br/>
The classic "to do", "doing", "done" kanban interface of the tool allows buyers and stakeholders to collaborate on projects without the need for silos and email-based communication. Buyers on the same team can work on the same requisition or project without the need to be copied on emails or attend unnecessary project meetings.

What's more, this tool doesn't require connectivity to an existing ERP system to get the key benefits from it.

I discover how this simple, but effective tool helps especially with remote-based teams and with one-time purchase requirements for key projects such as capex.

Eliminating maverick spend and early procurement involvement are major objectives to keep spend predictable and under control. Both of these are at the centre of what Procurement Flow facilitates.

NOTE: My side I had an audio glitch (I'm still learning this whole podcasting thing...I'm human!) So, if you're wondering why my audio is a bit distorted, now you know. I hope it doesn't detract from the podcast!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Using a Kanban Board for Buyers: How Procurement Flow makes remote working and project procurement easy</strong></h2>
0:45

Is "Trello for Procurement" a fair description of Procurement Flow?

1:48

We discuss the fact that procurement is behind the curve vs. more progressive industry sectors (tech startups, for example) with regard to ditching email chains for managing workflows and tasks between team members.

3:13

How UX is behind everything in Procurement Flow's DNA.

4:43

Is it really possible to digitise within a day (as their website claims) by switching from an email based requisitioning system to using Procurement Flow?

6:19

Tarmo explains why he sees the biggest value of Procurement Flow as being to bring under control and give structure to the pre-PO part of the procurement process.

7:30

We explore the need for visibility of stakeholder requirements, as well as early procurement involvement, and how a user-friendly tool such as Procurement Flow can improve compliance by increasing the number of cases where procurement input happens before the last minute "I need a PO, can you negotiate this?"

8:15

How Procurement Flow can aid and facilitate collaboration, especially among remote working teams.

9:32

Tarmo explains 3 critical time-sucking activities in operational procurement, from sourcing through to PO placement, and how he is convinced that Procurement Flow solves all of these.

11:53

I ask how easy would it be to put together a business case for Procurement Flow if it doesn't drive any hard, P&amp;L visible savings which can clearly be attributed to its use.

14:41

Who is Procurement Flow's typical ideal customer base?

16:14

How does Procurement Flow plan to grow, and what additional features are in the pipeline to keep improving the product?

19:11

To wrap up, I ask Tarmo which countries they are currently serving with their software.

<strong>How can you contact Tarmo?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.procurementflow.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Flow website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saidla/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tarmo's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Tarmo Saidla joins me from Procurement Flow, an Estonian startup focusing on:
<ul>
 	<li>Making workflows more visible for procurement and requisitioners</li>
 	<li>Keeping budgets under control for CFOs</li>
 	<li>Allowing project managers to keep track in real time of what in the process their requisitions for materials and services are at.</li>
</ul><br/>
The classic "to do", "doing", "done" kanban interface of the tool allows buyers and stakeholders to collaborate on projects without the need for silos and email-based communication. Buyers on the same team can work on the same requisition or project without the need to be copied on emails or attend unnecessary project meetings.

What's more, this tool doesn't require connectivity to an existing ERP system to get the key benefits from it.

I discover how this simple, but effective tool helps especially with remote-based teams and with one-time purchase requirements for key projects such as capex.

Eliminating maverick spend and early procurement involvement are major objectives to keep spend predictable and under control. Both of these are at the centre of what Procurement Flow facilitates.

NOTE: My side I had an audio glitch (I'm still learning this whole podcasting thing...I'm human!) So, if you're wondering why my audio is a bit distorted, now you know. I hope it doesn't detract from the podcast!
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Using a Kanban Board for Buyers: How Procurement Flow makes remote working and project procurement easy</strong></h2>
0:45

Is "Trello for Procurement" a fair description of Procurement Flow?

1:48

We discuss the fact that procurement is behind the curve vs. more progressive industry sectors (tech startups, for example) with regard to ditching email chains for managing workflows and tasks between team members.

3:13

How UX is behind everything in Procurement Flow's DNA.

4:43

Is it really possible to digitise within a day (as their website claims) by switching from an email based requisitioning system to using Procurement Flow?

6:19

Tarmo explains why he sees the biggest value of Procurement Flow as being to bring under control and give structure to the pre-PO part of the procurement process.

7:30

We explore the need for visibility of stakeholder requirements, as well as early procurement involvement, and how a user-friendly tool such as Procurement Flow can improve compliance by increasing the number of cases where procurement input happens before the last minute "I need a PO, can you negotiate this?"

8:15

How Procurement Flow can aid and facilitate collaboration, especially among remote working teams.

9:32

Tarmo explains 3 critical time-sucking activities in operational procurement, from sourcing through to PO placement, and how he is convinced that Procurement Flow solves all of these.

11:53

I ask how easy would it be to put together a business case for Procurement Flow if it doesn't drive any hard, P&amp;L visible savings which can clearly be attributed to its use.

14:41

Who is Procurement Flow's typical ideal customer base?

16:14

How does Procurement Flow plan to grow, and what additional features are in the pipeline to keep improving the product?

19:11

To wrap up, I ask Tarmo which countries they are currently serving with their software.

<strong>How can you contact Tarmo?</strong>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.procurementflow.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Flow website</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saidla/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tarmo's LinkedIn profile</a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://entproc.com/podcast]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">be00126b-fe66-4165-848a-c86aa43e70a9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ed6e9847-7169-4ee8-9be6-faef7445fd89/Podcast.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c3622253-ebe6-4458-b2ae-0eb6cddbc11b/episode-2-tarmo-saidla-procurementflow.mp3" length="42662684" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Freight Sourcing – Pieter Kinds from Freightender</title><itunes:title>Freight Sourcing with Pieter Kinds from Freightender</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[Joining me on this week's podcast is Pieter Kinds from TenderTool.

TenderTool is a freight sourcing platform with a difference. Pieter claims that both buyers and freight forwarders alike see the benefits of using such a tool.

If you've tried to source freight using a traditional provider of e-sourcing software (like I have), you'll soon realise that these tools are not well equipped for transportation tenders.

Below are some of the highlights from the podcast.

Note: Since recording this episode, TenderTool rebranded as Freightender. I have retained TenderTool in the notes just for consistency. The website link at the bottom, however, links to the Freightender website.

&nbsp;
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Series 1, Episode 1: TenderTool - The specialist digital platform that makes freight sourcing easier</strong></h2>
1:59

Pieter explains how his sales background in the freight industry inspired him to create TenderTool.

4:19

Combatting the scourge of Excel-based tenders and how TenderTool can do the spade work for you, alleviating the common frustrations with using spreadsheets.

5:04

Why is sourcing transportation different from regular e-tenders for other categories? What makes it exceptional? Pieter explains some of the complexities of sourcing freight and why it's difficult to get good RFP data from using a more traditional "one-size-fits-all" e-sourcing tool.

9:00

I ask Pieter to explain some of the most common mistakes he comes across when Procurement departments conduct freight tenders. His answer wasn't what I expected...!

10:05

A useful insight into how forwarders react to tenders, and some of the criteria they use when making the decisions around which buyers to respond do. (Clue - if your data is poor or vague, you'll get fewer responses!)

11:37

Handling spot rates vs. fixed rate cards

13:39

Dealing with driver shortages. Pieter gives his insights on the changing dynamics of the road freight industry in Europe and how, after a long period of it being very much a buyer's market, this may now be coming to an end.

15:10

Why regardless of the category of spend, people want to do business with other people, even in a relatively commoditised service such as transportation vendors.

16:57

Can buyers and vendors ever reach the point where they both enjoy using the same e-sourcing platform?

18:50

Why technology helps BOTH parties to be more efficient and productive, and why it shouldn't just be seen as a tool that's unequivocally biased towards the benefit of the buyer.

21:15

I ask Pieter finally about his plans to grow TenderTool and their immediate next developments.
<h3><strong>Want to connect with Pieter to learn more?</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.freightender.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>FreighTender website</strong></a> (TenderTool underwent a rebranding after we recorded the show and is now called Freightender!)</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pieter-kinds-88b5b312/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Pieter's LinkedIn profile</strong></a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:p.kinds@freightender.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Contact Pieter by email</strong></a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[Joining me on this week's podcast is Pieter Kinds from TenderTool.

TenderTool is a freight sourcing platform with a difference. Pieter claims that both buyers and freight forwarders alike see the benefits of using such a tool.

If you've tried to source freight using a traditional provider of e-sourcing software (like I have), you'll soon realise that these tools are not well equipped for transportation tenders.

Below are some of the highlights from the podcast.

Note: Since recording this episode, TenderTool rebranded as Freightender. I have retained TenderTool in the notes just for consistency. The website link at the bottom, however, links to the Freightender website.

&nbsp;
<h2><strong class="ql-size-large">Series 1, Episode 1: TenderTool - The specialist digital platform that makes freight sourcing easier</strong></h2>
1:59

Pieter explains how his sales background in the freight industry inspired him to create TenderTool.

4:19

Combatting the scourge of Excel-based tenders and how TenderTool can do the spade work for you, alleviating the common frustrations with using spreadsheets.

5:04

Why is sourcing transportation different from regular e-tenders for other categories? What makes it exceptional? Pieter explains some of the complexities of sourcing freight and why it's difficult to get good RFP data from using a more traditional "one-size-fits-all" e-sourcing tool.

9:00

I ask Pieter to explain some of the most common mistakes he comes across when Procurement departments conduct freight tenders. His answer wasn't what I expected...!

10:05

A useful insight into how forwarders react to tenders, and some of the criteria they use when making the decisions around which buyers to respond do. (Clue - if your data is poor or vague, you'll get fewer responses!)

11:37

Handling spot rates vs. fixed rate cards

13:39

Dealing with driver shortages. Pieter gives his insights on the changing dynamics of the road freight industry in Europe and how, after a long period of it being very much a buyer's market, this may now be coming to an end.

15:10

Why regardless of the category of spend, people want to do business with other people, even in a relatively commoditised service such as transportation vendors.

16:57

Can buyers and vendors ever reach the point where they both enjoy using the same e-sourcing platform?

18:50

Why technology helps BOTH parties to be more efficient and productive, and why it shouldn't just be seen as a tool that's unequivocally biased towards the benefit of the buyer.

21:15

I ask Pieter finally about his plans to grow TenderTool and their immediate next developments.
<h3><strong>Want to connect with Pieter to learn more?</strong></h3>
<ul>
 	<li><a href="https://www.freightender.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>FreighTender website</strong></a> (TenderTool underwent a rebranding after we recorded the show and is now called Freightender!)</li>
 	<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pieter-kinds-88b5b312/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Pieter's LinkedIn profile</strong></a></li>
 	<li><a href="mailto:p.kinds@freightender.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Contact Pieter by email</strong></a></li>
</ul><br/>
<strong>How to connect with James:</strong>
<ul>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-enterprise" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Enterprise</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-mid-market-businesses" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for Mid-Market</a></li>
 	<li>Download our <a href="https://store.procurementsoftware.site/tech-map-for-smes" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tech Map for SMEs</a></li>
 	<li>Find your perfect procurement tech solution in our <a href="https://app.procurementsoftware.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Software Finder app</a></li>
 	<li>Sign up for the <a href="https://procurementsoftware.site/#stay-up-to-date" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Procurement Software Newsletter</a></li>
 	<li><a href="https://calendly.com/jamesmeads/30-minute-intro-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Book an Intro Call</a> and let’s talk all things Digital Procurement!</li>
 	<li><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/james-meads/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Connect with James on LinkedIn</a></li>
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It's a solo episode with just me, outlining what to expect from the series and from future episodes.

Technology is having an ever-more important impact on our lives.

It's a golden opportunity for us in the procurement function to have our moment in the spotlight and grab the C-Suite's attention. Digital procurement transformation will, I hope and truly believe, facilitate this.

In the same way that countries who invest in mobile infrastructure, simplify their tax code and streamline their bureaucracy for businesses will prosper, so will organisations who embrace change and take a more strategic, data-driven approach to their procurement function.

Is your organisation a pioneer, an early adopter or a laggard?

It's now or never. Learn about who can help you and what solutions are out there.

https://procuretechpodcast.com/s0e1

https://jamesmeadsconsulting.com]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[If you've just found us and want to learn more about what The Procuretech Podcast is all about, our inaugural episode does just that.

It's a solo episode with just me, outlining what to expect from the series and from future episodes.

Technology is having an ever-more important impact on our lives.

It's a golden opportunity for us in the procurement function to have our moment in the spotlight and grab the C-Suite's attention. Digital procurement transformation will, I hope and truly believe, facilitate this.

In the same way that countries who invest in mobile infrastructure, simplify their tax code and streamline their bureaucracy for businesses will prosper, so will organisations who embrace change and take a more strategic, data-driven approach to their procurement function.

Is your organisation a pioneer, an early adopter or a laggard?

It's now or never. Learn about who can help you and what solutions are out there.

https://procuretechpodcast.com/s0e1

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