Rooted & Rehumanizing

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

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040: From Knowing to Embodying

Mon, 11 May 2026 00:30:00 -0400

What happens after the breakthrough?

In part two of this live coaching series, Jillian explores the space that comes after awareness. The part that is often overlooked. Moving from understanding something intellectually to actually living it.

After uncovering the belief patterns holding her back in the previous episode, Jillian notices her tendency to stop at the “aha.” To understand the shift, but not embody it.

Meg guides her into the body. Into sensation, presence, and awareness. Using a simple but powerful practice, they explore how tension lives in the body, how safety can be accessed, and how capacity is built not by fixing, but by feeling.

This conversation reframes what it means to “do the work.” Not as something rigid or structured, but as something fluid, intuitive, and available in every moment.

It’s a shift from performance to presence. From checking the box to actually being in it.

What we explore in this episode:

The gap between intellectual understanding and embodiment
Why awareness alone doesn’t create change
How tension and stress show up physically in the body
A simple somatic practice to build capacity for discomfort
The concept of pendulation and nervous system regulation
Where different parts of identity live in the body
Why slowing down feels like a “waste of time” and how to reframe it
Breaking the habit of turning healing into a checklist
Using everyday moments as opportunities for presence
The importance of variety and flexibility in personal practices
Self-mothering and learning to ask: what do I need right now?

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

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039: Control, Identity, and Becoming “Her”

Mon, 04 May 2026 00:30:00 -0400

What if the resistance you feel isn’t about the work… but about who you’re allowing yourself to be while doing it?

In this episode, Meg coaches Jillian live in a raw and unfiltered conversation that uncovers the deeper layers behind control, anxiety, and identity. What begins as a discussion about trying to control outcomes quickly reveals something more foundational. A split between two versions of self.

Jillian shares the tension between who she is in the world and who she feels she is at home. The bold, visionary leader versus the smaller, more contracted version seeking safety. Together, they unpack where these patterns come from, why they persist, and what it looks like to begin integrating them instead of choosing between them.

This conversation moves beyond mindset and into embodiment. It explores what it really means to trust yourself, to feel safe being fully seen, and to step into a more complete version of who you already are.

What we explore in this episode:

The hidden cost of trying to control outcomes instead of trusting the process
Why resistance often shows up around the very practices that help us most
The belief that success must come through grit, struggle, and sacrifice
The internal split between “who I am at work” and “who I am at home”
How safety, peace, and success can coexist instead of compete
The fear of being fully seen and how it shapes behavior and identity
Why contraction and expansion are both necessary parts of growth
The difference between forcing change and allowing integration
Reframing “hurting people” as inviting them into a higher version of themselves
What it means to truly embody “I am her”

Key Takeaways

You don’t have to choose between success and peace. They can exist together.
The parts of you you’ve separated are meant to be integrated, not managed.
Resistance is often a signal pointing directly to the belief that needs to be examined.
You are already resourced. The evidence is in the people who fully know and love you.
Growth doesn’t require force. It can happen through awareness, observation, and gentleness.
You are not becoming someone new. You are allowing more of who you already are.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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038: The Power of Belief. Unleashing Limitless Potential with Marsha Vanwynsberghe & Sue Ruhe

Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:30:00 -0400

This episode is a little different.

This conversation originally took place on Own Your Choices Own Your Life with Marsha Vanwynsberghe and our joint podcast editor, Sue Ruh. It felt too important not to share here, as well.

There was something about the depth, the honesty, and the way this conversation unfolded that felt so aligned with what we’re creating inside Rooted & Rehumanizing. It felt real. It felt human.

So we’re sharing it with you.

No re-recording. No over-editing. Just a conversation that mattered enough to be heard again.

We talk about the part of growth that doesn’t get as much attention.

The space after awareness.

The moment where you see it, understand it, maybe can even explain it… but you’re not fully living it yet.

This is where so many people get stuck.

We explore the gap between knowing and embodying.

What it actually means to move something from your mind into your life.

This isn’t about more tools or more information.

It’s about presence. Being with what’s actually happening instead of trying to rush past it.

There’s a shift in this conversation from doing the work to being in it.

From trying to fix, to learning how to feel.

And that changes everything.

What We Explore in This Episode

The moment where you realize knowing isn’t the same as living
Why awareness doesn’t change anything unless your body is involved
How patterns keep running even when you “know better”
The shift from trying to fix yourself to actually being with yourself
Moving out of performance and into something real, present, and lived

Why We Shared This Episode Here

There was something about this conversation that felt different.

It wasn’t just insightful.

It was real.

The kind of conversation where you can feel what’s happening underneath it, not just hear what’s being said.

And instead of trying to recreate that, we wanted to bring it here exactly as it happened.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf

Connect with Marsha Vanwynsberghe: An NLP Storytelling Trainer, OUTSPOKEN NLP Coaching Certification, Author, Speaker, and Podcaster

Website: www.marshavanw.com

Connect on IG, click HERE

Subscribe on YouTube, click HERE

Offerings:

UNBOTHERED Mastermind: https://www.marshavanw.com/offers/w8WVE3Pa

Write Your Damn Book Program: https://www.marshavanw.com/writenow

Tickets for Heart-Wired CEO Live https://www.heart-wiredceo.com/live

Unbothered Private Podcast https://www.marshavanw.com/unbotheredmindpodcast

Unbothered Entrepreneur Masterclass (for the Podcast Listeners): https://www.marshavanw.com/unbothered-entrepreneur-masterclass-podcast

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037: Community Over Competition

Mon, 20 Apr 2026 00:30:00 -0400

Jillian opens this conversation with a powerful shift in perspective as she prepares to launch Trellis. Faced with the reality that her patents will not be finalized before launch, she initially felt pressure to protect her ideas. But through reflection, she realized that her deeper mission is not ownership. It is impact.

This realization reframes everything. If the goal is to make the world better, then more people carrying similar ideas forward is not a threat. It is a multiplier.

Meg expands on this by exploring the difference between competition and collaboration. Rather than viewing others as threats, she invites listeners to see them as mirrors, mentors, and potential partners. Together, they discuss how comparison and competition often stem from scarcity thinking, while collaboration is rooted in abundance.

Jillian shares how this shows up in her own experience, noticing moments where she felt protective over her ideas or voice, especially when seeing others speak on similar topics. Over time, she has learned to interpret that not as a loss of edge, but as validation and alignment.

Meg brings the conversation into everyday life, reflecting on comparison in motherhood and social media. She shares how easy it is to feel “less than” when observing others, and how that can be reframed into appreciation rather than self-judgment.

Together, they highlight that comparison is often a signal. It points to something within us that we either value, desire, or feel disconnected from. When approached with curiosity instead of judgment, it becomes a pathway for growth.

The episode closes with a grounded and practical takeaway. Instead of asking who you are competing with, ask who you could learn from, collaborate with, or simply celebrate. Community is not something that happens automatically. It is something we choose to participate in.

What This Episode Explores

• Community versus competition in business and life

• Letting go of scarcity thinking and embracing abundance

• Protecting ideas versus spreading impact

• Comparison as a signal rather than a problem

• Social media and its influence on self-perception

• Collaboration as a force multiplier

• Learning from others instead of competing with them

• Building intentional community in everyday life

Key Takeaways

• Collaboration expands impact faster than competition.

• Comparison often reveals what we value or desire.

• Scarcity thinking creates isolation, while abundance creates connection.

• Other people’s success can be a mirror, not a threat.

• Community requires intentional participation, not passive observation.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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036: Your A Team. Life and Business

Mon, 13 Apr 2026 01:00:00 -0400

Meg and Jillian explore what it means to build an “A team” in both business and life, and how support, structure, and collaboration unlock deeper impact.

Meg shares how this topic surfaced through a simple conversation, leading her to reflect on the people she has intentionally brought into her business. From a bookkeeper to a virtual assistant to creative support, each addition allowed her to stay rooted in her zone of genius while trusting others to carry areas outside of it.

Jillian reflects on her own experience, noticing that as she leans into trust and alignment, the right people seem to appear at the exact moment she needs them. From technical experts to operational support, she sees her “team” as an extension of her ability to execute at a higher level.

The conversation expands into a deeper discussion around structure. Both Meg and Jillian explore how creating systems, processes, and support is not about control, but about creating a container that allows freedom, flow, and creativity.

Jillian connects this to a broader belief about business and systems. She challenges the idea that systems should control people, and instead proposes that systems should support humans. This leads into a powerful conversation about redefining work through roles instead of hours, and how misaligned structures can limit both productivity and fulfillment.

Meg brings the conversation back to a human level, emphasizing that structure should never become rigid. Instead, it should act as a flexible support system that evolves alongside growth.

The episode closes with a reflection on community. Both Meg and Jillian acknowledge that true growth does not happen in isolation. Building an A team is not just about outsourcing tasks, but about participating in collective wisdom, shared support, and rising together.

What This Episode Explores

• What it means to build an “A team” in life and business

• Hiring and outsourcing to stay in your zone of genius

• Trusting that the right support appears when needed

• Structure as a tool for freedom rather than control

• The balance between structure and flexibility

• Systems that support humans instead of controlling them

• Rethinking work through roles instead of hours

• Community, collaboration, and collective growth

Key Takeaways

• You do not have to do everything alone to be successful.

• The right support allows you to focus on what you do best.

• Structure creates freedom when it is aligned and flexible.

• Systems should be designed to support people, not control them.

• Growth expands when you allow yourself to receive help and collaborate.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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035: Less Goal Oriented. More Practice Oriented.

Mon, 06 Apr 2026 00:30:00 -0400

Meg opens this conversation by challenging a deeply ingrained cultural norm. What if the problem is not that people lack goals, but that they are too focused on them?

Meg and Jillian explore the tension between being goal oriented and being present in the daily practices that actually lead to those goals. Meg reflects on how she approaches her work and life with intuition and aligned steps rather than rigid long term planning. Instead of mapping everything out in advance, she focuses on taking the next few steps with presence and trust.

The conversation unpacks how anxiety often appears when people try to control outcomes too far into the future. When the focus shifts back to the present moment and the practices happening right now, clarity and momentum naturally return.

Meg shares a simple example from her own life. When she prioritized attending a fitness class instead of overloading her schedule with too many commitments, she reinforced the daily practice that supports her long term health goals.

Jillian reflects on how presence changes the way she experiences her day. Small moments like playing a simple card game with her son become powerful anchors that pull her back into the moment when her mind starts racing ahead.

Together they explore how society often teaches people to chase outcomes while overlooking the daily actions that actually create them. Whether the goal is a healthy relationship, a thriving business, or personal fulfillment, the path forward is almost always found in the practices of today.

Meg closes the episode with a reminder that goals themselves are only guesses. The real work happens in the process. When people begin to love the journey and the practices within it, they often find themselves accomplishing more with less pressure and more joy.

What This Episode Explores

• Why goals are often guesses about what we think we want

• The difference between being goal oriented and practice oriented

• Anxiety that appears when people try to plan too far ahead

• The power of presence in daily life

• Intuition versus over strategizing

• Small practices that support long term goals

• Anchors that bring us back to the present moment

• Why loving the process creates sustainable growth

Key Takeaways

• Goals can provide direction, but daily practices create real progress.

• Anxiety often comes from trying to control too many steps ahead.

• Presence allows intuition to guide aligned actions.

• Small daily choices reinforce the life we want to build.

• When people focus on the process, results often follow more naturally.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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034: Slowing Down to Care for the Whole Human, for Patients and Practitioners with Kristen Bos

Mon, 30 Mar 2026 02:00:00 -0400

What if healing isn’t only about fixing what’s broken…

but about finally being seen, heard, and supported as a whole human?

In this episode, Meg and Jillian sit down with Dr. Kristen Bos, physical therapist and founder of Body Empowered Health & Wellness, to explore what happens when healthcare becomes human again.

From leaving the traditional, productivity-driven medical model to building a practice rooted in time, trust, and true listening, Kristen shares what it looks like to treat the whole person not just the symptom.

This conversation expands far beyond physical therapy. It’s about autonomy, alignment, nervous system safety, and redefining what care should feel like.

What we explore in this episode:

Why the traditional healthcare model often fails both patients and providers
The hidden role of the nervous system and emotional experiences in physical pain
What happens when practitioners slow down and actually listen
The difference between productivity-driven care and impact-driven care
How Kristen built her own practice in alignment with her values
The importance of patients taking ownership of their health decisions
Why “you’re not broken enough” is a harmful belief in healthcare
The power of education and understanding your body vs being told what to do
Community, word-of-mouth, and building trust in a local business
Navigating fear when putting yourself out into the world
Pregnancy, birth, and trusting the body’s innate wisdom

A few powerful takeaways:

Healing requires safety, not just solutions
Your body is not a problem to fix, it’s a system to understand
If something doesn’t feel right in your care, it probably isn’t
You are allowed to seek better, more aligned support
Impact grows when we choose alignment over productivity
Doing it scared is still doing it

Final reflection:

If you’ve ever felt rushed, dismissed, or unseen in your healthcare experience…

this episode is a reminder that there is another way.

One where you are not just a chart, a number, or a diagnosis

but a human worth listening to.

About Kristen:

Dr. Kristen Bos is a Doctor of Physical Therapy and the founder of Body Empowered Health & Wellness in Zeeland, Michigan.

Her work focuses on a holistic, patient-centered approach to healing, integrating physical therapy with nervous system awareness, emotional health, and education. She is passionate about helping people reconnect with their bodies, understand their pain, and feel empowered in their healing journey.

Connect with Kristen:

Website: Body Empowered Health & Wellness (Zeeland, MI)
Instagram: @kristenbos.pt
Virtual sessions available

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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033: Overwhelm as Evidence of Abundance

Mon, 23 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0400

Meg introduces a perspective shift she recently explored inside her Bold Beautiful Life community. What if overwhelm is not only a signal of stress, but also evidence of abundance?

The conversation begins with acknowledging the real weight many people carry, especially women balancing families, careers, responsibilities, and personal growth. Meg and Jillian discuss how overwhelm is valid while also exploring the possibility that many of the things overwhelming us are connected to blessings we once hoped for.

Meg shares a powerful journaling exercise from her community session. Participants wrote down everything that felt overwhelming in their lives. Then they revisited the list and highlighted the items connected to something meaningful or valuable. Nearly every person discovered that most of their overwhelm was attached to something they deeply cared about.

Jillian reflects on how this idea shows up in her own life as she prepares to onboard pilot customers for Trellis. She shares what it feels like to push the edges of her thinking while building something complex and meaningful, and how time constraints and competing responsibilities create real tension.

The conversation expands into deeper territory around alignment, people pleasing, and learning when it is time to release responsibilities that no longer fit. Jillian recognizes patterns of waiting until things become difficult before making a change, while Meg shares how she evaluates alignment quickly by noticing what fits her values, time, and energy.

Together they explore the duality of life. Something can feel heavy and still be meaningful. Overwhelm and gratitude can exist at the same time.

The episode closes with Meg offering listeners the same simple journaling practice that sparked the conversation.

What This Episode Explores

• Overwhelm as a reflection of abundance

• The duality of holding gratitude and stress at the same time

• A journaling exercise that reframes overwhelm

• People pleasing and the difficulty of prioritizing personal preferences

• Alignment and how to recognize when something no longer fits

• Awareness and how personal growth shortens the time between realization and action

• Walking, nature, and solitude as tools for clarity

• Navigating growth edges while building something meaningful

Key Takeaways

• Many sources of overwhelm are connected to responsibilities or relationships we once desired.

• Awareness of personal patterns is a major step toward change.

• Alignment often becomes clearer when we consider how something fits our time, values, and energy.

• Personal growth reduces the delay between recognizing a pattern and acting on it.

• Overwhelm does not always mean something is wrong. Sometimes it means life is full.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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032: Simmering Is the Bridge

Mon, 16 Mar 2026 02:00:00 -0400

In this raw and unplanned conversation, Jillian shares a massive internal shift. A week of true integration moved her from feeling afraid to share her voice to feeling almost unstoppable in her purpose.

She describes shedding the weight of expectations that were never truly hers and stepping into a new kind of weight. One that feels dense, meaningful, and aligned.

Meg reflects back what she sees in Jillian. A systems thinker. A global connector. Someone who naturally sees how everything interrelates and impacts the whole.

The conversation unfolds into a powerful exploration of messy action versus strategic pause, feminine flow and masculine structure, and the idea that simmering might be the bridge between them.

Jillian shares her current season of craving more strategy and support in her business while honoring her natural flow. Together, they unpack what it means to trust the process, delegate wisely, and allow clarity to emerge instead of forcing it.

This episode is about integration.

It is about trust.

It is about carrying the weight that is actually yours.

What This Episode Explores

• Rest as a prerequisite, not a reward

• The difference between carrying expectations and carrying purpose

• Systems thinking and seeing how everything connects

• Messy action versus strategic pause

• Simmering as a creative and strategic bridge

• Feminine flow and masculine structure in business

• Delegation, trust, and sustainable growth

• The ripple effect of aligned leadership

Key Takeaways

• The weight that is meant for you feels different than the weight placed on you.

• Not everything requires immediate action. Some things require simmering.

• Trust removes pressure from decision making.

• Strategy and flow are not opposites. They can coexist through intentional pause.

• Sustainable business growth requires clarity about what to hold and what to release.

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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031: The Power of Letting Yourself Feel

Mon, 09 Mar 2026 01:00:00 -0400

This episode explores a redefinition of power.

Jillian opens with a statement she has been reflecting on: real power is not control. It is the willingness to feel what is here long enough that it no longer controls you.

From there, the conversation unfolds into business, parenting, leadership, marriage, and self regulation.

Jillian shares what she has observed in business owners who suppress fear and stress, only to react from dysregulation. Meg reflects on a recent personal moment where pausing allowed her to uncover a deeper wound around safety and being misunderstood.

Together they unpack:

The difference between control and true power
What happens when emotions are stuffed instead of felt
The “power of the pause”
How unprocessed emotions affect leadership and families
Soft power versus aggressive power
The role of safety in emotional regulation
Avoidance, compartmentalization, and productivity as numbing strategies
Why rest can feel unsafe
Acceptance as a bridge emotion
Moving from frustration to gratitude
Emotional habits and unconscious reactions

They also discuss practical tools including meditation, journaling, the HeartMath device, and Meg’s Self Mastery course as pathways toward awareness, acceptance, and intentional response.

A key thread throughout the episode is this:

Emotions are not the enemy.

Avoidance is.

You do not become powerless by feeling.

You become free.

Key Themes

Power as capacity and presence rather than dominance
Emotional awareness as leadership strength
The nervous system and biofeedback
Acceptance before empowerment
Healing self to heal relationships

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

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030: Journaling as a Living Practice

Mon, 02 Mar 2026 01:00:00 -0400

Journaling has been referenced in many previous episodes, so Meg and Jill decided to slow down and unpack it.

This conversation moves from childhood diaries with tiny locks and keys to the deeper truth of what journaling can uncover.

Meg shares how she journaled in prayer form as a teenager and how looking back at those notebooks now feels like opening a time capsule. She reflects on manifestation, gratitude, and the Power Nine practice she uses with clients.

Jillian shares that she did not feel safe with her own thoughts growing up. She did not believe she was allowed to have individual opinions. Journaling became part of her growth journey and a way to discover who she actually is.

Together they explore:

Why perfectionism keeps people from starting
Morning Pages from The Artist’s Way
Clearing mental fog by “clearing the sludge”
The difference between writing and typing
Journaling as a somatic practice that connects mind, body, and spirit
Using prompts and shadow work to uncover subconscious beliefs
Attaching journaling to a deeper why

They emphasize that journaling is not about performance or productivity.

It is about expression.

It is about release.

It is about clarity.

For anyone who feels intimidated, they offer a simple starting point: try it messy. Try it imperfect. Try it for three days and notice what shifts.

Key Takeaways

Journaling is about release, not performance.
You do not have to keep what you write.
Writing physically engages the mind, body, and spirit.
Clear the sludge first, then clarity follows.
Perfectionism is the biggest barrier.
Your journaling practice can evolve over time.
Attach your practice to a meaningful why.

Resources:

Power 9 Journaling Practice
List 3 things you’re grateful for
List 3 things you’re excited for
List 3 things you’re manifesting
The Artist Way by Julia Cameron
https://a.co/d/0f7dT4Ow
The Shadow Work Journal
https://a.co/d/0iJvUsfa

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029: Going First. Making Mistakes. Using Art as Advocacy for Disability, Dignity, and Inclusion with Hopelynd

Mon, 23 Feb 2026 01:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill are joined by their first-ever guests, Kellie Hetler and Kara Hanes, founders of Hopelynd, a nonprofit rooted in disability advocacy through art and photography. What unfolds is not a conversation about charity or inspiration, but about dignity, presence, and what it means to use your gifts in service of others.

Kellie and Kara share the deeply personal origins of Hopelynd, born from their lived experiences as mothers and artists, and their vision to create spaces, systems, and education that make true inclusion possible. Together, they explore how fear of doing it “wrong” often keeps people from connection, and how willingness, humility, and repair matter more than perfect language.

This episode is an invitation to rethink accessibility, visibility, and belonging, and to consider how ripple-effect change begins when someone is willing to go first, even while still learning.

We explore:

• Creativity as an act of service rather than transaction

• What disability inclusion actually looks like in practice, not theory

• Why fear of making mistakes often causes more harm than mistakes themselves

• The importance of accessible, sensory-aware spaces

• How children model inclusion when adults allow curiosity instead of silence

• Language, intention, and the permission to learn in real time

• Building something meant to outlive its founders

• The quiet courage required to advocate publicly before you feel “ready”

About our guests:

Kellie Hetler and Kara Hanes are internationally traveling photographers and the founders of Hopelynd, a nonprofit organization advocating for disability inclusion through art, photography, education, and community spaces. Their work centers dignity, accessibility, and creating environments where all people are seen, valued, and welcomed.

Upcoming Event:

Hopelynd’s Intrinsic Art Show

📅 March 27

📍 Venue3Two, Grand Rapids

An inclusive art and community event celebrating disabled artists, featuring a sensory-aware environment, live music, and an online art auction.

Links to tickets, the auction, and ways to support Hopelynd are available in the show notes.

Connect with Kellie & Kara at Hopelynd

www.hopelynd.com
IG: @hopelyndofficial
TikTok: @hopelynd
FB: @hopelynd
LI: @hopelynd

Attend their 2nd event, Intrinsic by Hopelynd on March 27th 7-9pm at Venue32

Earlybird tickets $10
Online Art Auction starts the day before
Here is the link for the online auction:
https://givebutter.com/c/xSIzmO/auction
Here is our general donation link:
https://givebutter.com/hopelynd

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Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
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Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

028: Belonging vs Fitting In and the Cost of Editing Yourself

Mon, 16 Feb 2026 01:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Jillian and Meg explore the subtle and often invisible ways we edit ourselves to feel safe, accepted, or seen, and the emotional, relational, and energetic cost of doing so.

What begins as Jillian sharing a deeply personal realization unfolds into a conversation about belonging versus fitting in, nervous system safety, code switching, and how our earliest experiences shape the way we show up in the world. Together, they reflect on childhood conditioning, family dynamics, politics, and leadership, and how learning to belong to yourself changes everything.

This episode invites listeners to consider where they may be compromising who they are, not because the world asked them to, but because it once felt safer to do so.

We explore:

• What we compromise in ourselves to feel safe being seen

• The difference between fitting in and true belonging

• How code switching signals nervous system unsafety

• Why belonging starts with self exploration and self trust

• Parenting, modeling authenticity, and nervous system safety in children

• Why bridging divides often requires standing alone

• How love and self belonging create steadiness in a divided world

Journaling prompts from this episode:

• Who am I, really?

• Do I love myself as I am today?

• Where do I feel safest being fully me?

• Where might I gently stretch my sense of safety without true risk?

Brene Brown Quotes:

On Fitting In vs. Belonging: "Fitting in is one of the greatest barriers to belonging. Fitting in is about assessing a situation and becoming who you need to be in order to be accepted. Belonging, on the other hand, doesn't require us to change who we are; it requires us to be who we are".
The Core Definition: "True belonging is the spiritual practice of believing in and belonging to yourself so deeply that you can share your most authentic self with the world and find sacredness in both being a part of something and standing alone in the wilderness".
“People are hard to hate close up, move in”

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Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

027: Humanity Is Not a Liability. It Is Infrastructure.

Mon, 09 Feb 2026 02:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore what it truly means to be human in a rapidly accelerating, tech driven world, and why love, connection, meaningful work, and purpose are not optional extras, but the foundation of mental wellbeing and sustainable systems.

What begins as a conversation about AI and optimization unfolds into a deeper reflection on how humanity is often treated as inefficiency rather than infrastructure. They challenge the idea that technology should dictate our lives, and instead invite a vision where technology supports human rhythms, values, and connection.

Through examples from leadership, parenting, entrepreneurship, and organizational design, this episode examines how work without meaning and connection without depth erodes wellbeing, and how intentional systems can restore dignity, agency, and belonging.

We explore:

• Why humanity is infrastructure, not a liability

• How optimization without meaning leads to burnout and disconnection

• The difference between working for technology and technology working for us

• Why filling time is not the same as purposeful work

• Hiring for roles instead of hours

• How clarity creates freedom and work life balance

• The loss of meaning in modern job structures

• Why purpose and connection are foundational to mental wellbeing

• How AI and technology can either support or erode humanity

• The responsibility of organizations to create meaningful environments

• Why job hopping reflects systemic failure, not personal flaw

• Language, hierarchy, and why “employee” no longer fits

• Rehumanizing work through contribution, belonging, and clarity

• Parenting, technology boundaries, and protecting connection

• How intentionality safeguards humanity in a digital world

This episode is reflective, expansive, and grounding. It is especially resonant for leaders, parents, founders, and anyone questioning how to live, work, and build in a world increasingly shaped by technology.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Humanity is not a liability. It is infrastructure.”

“Optimization without meaning is dehumanizing.”

“We should not be working for technology.”

“Filling time is not the same as purposeful work.”

“Clarity creates freedom for both the business and the human.”

“Work and love are the foundation of mental wellbeing.”

“Technology should support human rhythm, not replace it.”

“Purpose and connection are not optional.”

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Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

Resources Mentioned:

Honestly Podcast Episode “Kids Don’t Need Phones with Jonathan Haidt” https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cvteHV8A00oFcIB7GJBUR?si=ef84ce63370b4a80
Anxious Generation Book by Jonathan Haidt

026: Goal Setting That Actually Sticks.

Mon, 02 Feb 2026 01:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore goal setting through a grounded, human lens, focusing on the science behind sustainable change rather than short lived motivation or perfection driven resolutions.

What begins as a conversation about New Year’s goals unfolds into a deeper discussion about intention versus resolution, habit formation, nervous system safety, and why so many goals fail despite good intentions. They unpack how pressure, rigidity, and unrealistic expectations sabotage change, and what actually helps habits stick long term.

Drawing from behavioral science, lived experience, and practical examples, this episode offers a compassionate and realistic approach to creating meaningful change that supports real life rather than fights it.

We explore:

• The difference between resolutions and intentions

• Why intentions create direction without perfection

• How self honesty is essential for sustainable change

• Why goals must be enjoyable to be maintained

• Making habits easy, visible, and realistic

• The role of identity and alignment in goal setting

• Why trial periods are more effective than long term commitments

• How habit stacking increases follow through

• Why reminders need to include the “why,” not just the task

• Closing loops to reduce mental load

• How compassion accelerates growth

• Adjusting goals without self judgment

• Creating systems that work with your nervous system

• Why sustainable change is about consistency, not intensity

This episode is encouraging, practical, and deeply supportive for anyone who feels frustrated by goal setting, stuck in cycles of starting and stopping, or ready to create real change without burning out.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“An intention is a posture, not a rule.”

“Perfection is not sustainable. Alignment is.”

“If it is not enjoyable, you will not keep doing it.”

“Being honest with yourself is not limiting. It is liberating.”

“Make it easy. Make it visible. Make it meaningful.”

“We forget why something matters, not just what we planned.”

“Sustainable change works with your nervous system, not against it.”

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/73LyE4FOV8jQCLfcD5qGR0?si=f91354e9e98c4112

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

Resources Mentioned:

Mel Robbin’s Podcast Episode:

025: Ego Is Not the Enemy. Letting Ego Lead Is.

Mon, 26 Jan 2026 01:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill unpack one of the most misunderstood concepts in leadership and personal growth: ego.

Rather than treating ego as something to eliminate or shame, they explore ego as a natural part of being human. The real issue is not having an ego, but letting it lead unconsciously. Through grounded examples from leadership, corporate culture, family life, and identity, they show how unchecked ego quietly erodes trust, safety, and connection.

The conversation moves from theory into lived experience, highlighting how ego often shows up as defensiveness, image protection, narrative control, and fear of not being enough. Instead of judging these patterns, Meg and Jill invite curiosity, compassion, and responsibility as the path forward.

We explore:

• Why ego itself is not bad or wrong

• Ego as a protective function rooted in safety and identity

• The difference between having an ego and being led by it

• How ego shows up in leadership as optics, control, and narrative management

• Why ego driven leadership destroys trust and psychological safety

• The role of unconscious fear and not enoughness

• Ego as a signal rather than a driver

• Awareness and curiosity as the turning point

• How ego fueled decisions fracture relationships and culture

• Why truth builds more trust than image management

• Compassion without excusing harmful behavior

• Calling leaders forward without shame

• How ego impacts families, teams, and organizations

• Choosing aligned action instead of default reactions

This episode is reflective, honest, and deeply human. It is especially supportive for leaders, founders, and individuals who want to take responsibility for their impact without turning self awareness into self attack.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Ego is not the enemy. Letting ego lead is.”

“Every human has an ego. Awareness is the difference.”

“When ego leads, image matters more than truth.”

“Unchecked ego creates cultures of fear and mistrust.”

“Compassion does not mean avoiding responsibility.”

“You can acknowledge ego without letting it drive.”

“Leadership requires awareness, not perfection.”

“Truth builds trust faster than optics ever will.”

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Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

024: Nervous Systems, Leadership, and the Cost of Micromanagement

Mon, 19 Jan 2026 02:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the often overlooked root of micromanagement, not as a leadership flaw, but as a nervous system response.

What begins as a conversation about micromanagement in organizations expands into a deeper discussion about regulation, anxiety transmission, trust, and how a leader’s internal state directly shapes culture, performance, and psychological safety.

They unpack why pressure, manufactured urgency, and control are often attempts to self regulate, and how those behaviors unintentionally create fear, disengagement, and reduced effectiveness in teams. Rather than shaming leaders, this episode invites awareness, responsibility, and compassionate self inquiry.

We explore:

• Why micromanagement is a symptom of a dysregulated leader

• How a leader’s nervous system state transfers to their team

• The difference between regulation and control

• Why anxiety reduces creativity and performance

• How manufactured urgency creates counterproductive cultures

• Culture as regulation, not values statements

• Why values without nervous system alignment fail to land

• Awareness, non judgment, and responsibility as the path forward

• How leaders can model regulation instead of perfection

• The role of transparency and honest communication

• Agreements as a foundation for psychological safety

• Assuming positive intent as a

• Why autonomy and trust outperform micromanagement

• Hiring for roles instead of hours

• How operational clarity creates freedom and accountability

This episode is reflective, honest, and deeply relevant for leaders, founders, managers, and parents who want to lead with trust, calm, and integrity without sacrificing results.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Micromanagement is not the problem. It is the symptom.”

“Your nervous system teaches people how to feel around you.”

“Values do not set Culture. Regulation does.”

“Pressure does not improve performance. Safety does.”

“It is not your fault, and it is your responsibility.”

“Assuming positive intent changes everything.”

“You do not need control when there is clarity.”

“Leadership starts with self regulation.”

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Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

023: Time Blocking as a Budget for Your Energy

Mon, 12 Jan 2026 02:00:00 -0400

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In this episode, Meg and Jill explore ideal week schedules and time blocking, not as rigid productivity control, but as a way to preserve energy, reduce mental load, and create freedom in both work and life.

What begins as a practical conversation about scheduling unfolds into a deeper discussion about nervous system regulation, presence, creative flow, and the invisible weight of unclosed mental loops. They challenge the idea that structure limits creativity and instead offer structure as an act of self care and future self support.

Using the metaphor of budgeting, they explain how intentionally assigning time creates clarity, energetic boundaries, and space to actually live your life, rather than constantly reacting to it.

We explore:

• Time blocking as an energy budget rather than a productivity hack

• Why resistance to structure is often fear of losing autonomy

• How unclosed loops create somatic heaviness and burnout

• The importance of buffer time to synthesize and complete work

• Why back to back meetings drain more than we realize

• How structure can actually increase creativity and freedom

• The concept of designing an ideal week instead of chasing perfection

• Prioritizing non negotiables like rest, movement, and family time

• How energetic boundaries help separate work and personal roles

• Capturing creative ideas without letting them derail focus

• Why your previous self supporting your future self changes everything

• How intentional scheduling restores presence and reduces anxiety

This episode is grounding, practical, and especially supportive for entrepreneurs, creatives, leaders, and parents who feel overwhelmed, scattered, or run by their calendars instead of supported by them.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Structure is not about control. It is about conserving energy.”

“Your previous self is giving your future self a gift.”

“When you do not close the loop, your body carries the weight.”

“Back to back meetings leave no room for synthesis.”

“Structure does not kill creativity. It protects it.”

“You are either running your life, or your life is running you.”

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Meg’s Offerings

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership
Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind

Resources Mentioned:

Ideal Week Worksheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NUjfpxNv0Q09l-oJ6awy4gXlnJDGPHqx/view?usp=drive_link

022: Why Empathy Drains & Compassion Sustains

Mon, 05 Jan 2026 02:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the crucial distinction between empathy and compassion, especially in leadership and workplace dynamics. What many consider a strength can quietly lead to burnout, resentment, and disempowerment when left unchecked.

They unpack how empathy saturates the nervous system, while compassion creates clarity, boundaries, and true support. This conversation is especially relevant for leaders, managers, caregivers, and recovering people-pleasers.

They explore:

• Why empathy and compassion are not interchangeable

• How empathy leads to emotional saturation

• Compassion as care without carrying

• The difference between caregiving and caretaking

• How empathy can unintentionally disempower others

• Compassion as an empowerment tool

• Supporting employees without absorbing their struggles

• Asking better questions instead of making assumptions

• Leadership through belief and trust

• When empathy is appropriate and when it is not

• The tarp versus sponge metaphor

• Nervous system protection for leaders

• Sustainable emotional presence at work

This episode is practical, timely, and deeply supportive for anyone building teams or holding emotional space for others.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Empathy is feeling with someone. Compassion is caring for them.”

“When you take it all on, you leave nothing for yourself.”

“Caretaking disempowers. Caregiving supports.”

“You can hold space without carrying weight.”

“Ask what they need instead of assuming.”

“Be a tarp, not a sponge.”

“Compassion protects everyone involved.”

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Resources Mentioned

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

021: Fear-Based Productivity vs. Flow-Based Productivity

Mon, 29 Dec 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jill unpack two very different engines that drive productivity: fear and flow. While both can produce results, only one creates sustainability, fulfillment, and peace.

They reflect on hustle culture, nervous system conditioning, and the hidden cost of fear based success. Through personal stories, coaching insights, and real world business examples, they explore how productivity shifts when trust replaces urgency.

They explore:

• The difference between fear driven productivity and flow based productivity

• How hustle culture conditions the nervous system

• Physical symptoms of fear based work

• Why fear fueled success never feels like arrival

• Awareness as the first step to change

• The role of self judgment in keeping fear alive

• Non judgment as a bridge to empowerment

• Why conditional happiness never works

• Flow as a spiritual and creative experience

• How flow multiplies output with less effort

• Recognizing personal flow patterns

• Rituals that reliably activate flow

• Why presence with family fuels creativity

• How to build sustainable productivity practices

• Letting go of guilt around ease

This episode is clarifying and expansive. It is especially powerful for founders, leaders, creatives, and anyone questioning hustle as the price of success.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Fear can get you there, but you will still be living in fear once you arrive.”

“Self judgment is fear in disguise.”

“When I slowed down, everything started working better.”

“Flow feels like magic because you are aligned.”

“You do not arrive at peace by delaying it.”

“The journey can be what you are chasing.”

“Flow is available more often than we think.”

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:
https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg
Self Mastery Program:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership:
https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

EP 20: Declutter Your Mind, Transform Your Life

Mon, 22 Dec 2025 03:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the powerful connection between physical clutter and mental noise. What begins as a conversation about cleaning and household systems unfolds into a deeper discussion about nervous system regulation, coherence, conscious choice, and how we reclaim our energy.

They reflect on how clutter impacts stress, family dynamics, productivity, and emotional wellbeing. The episode introduces the idea that while physical decluttering is helpful, true peace comes from learning how to declutter the mind regardless of the environment.

They explore:

• How physical clutter directly impacts mental and emotional regulation

• Why systems and habits in the home matter more than perfection

• The difference between control and structure

• How resentment builds when responsibility is unevenly carried

• The concept of being the default person in a household

• Why shared responsibility builds connection and frees up time

• How clutter creates invisible cognitive load

• HeartMath technology and the concept of coherence

• Restorative emotions versus depleting emotions

• How thoughts directly impact heart rhythm and nervous system state

• Why frustration keeps us stuck in depletion

• Conscious choice as the gateway to peace

• How to shift from reaction to agency

• Gratitude as a physiological reset

• Why you do not need external change to reclaim inner calm

This episode is grounding, reflective, and deeply practical. It is especially supportive if you feel overwhelmed, overstimulated, or stuck in cycles of frustration at home or work.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“Anything they do not do falls on me, and that weight adds up.”

“Physical noise becomes mental noise faster than we realize.”

“Crap on the counter is not a lion, even though our body reacts like it is.”

“Restorative emotions change your physiology in real time.”

“You always have a choice, even when you are frustrated.”

“Frustration is information, not a place to live.”

“You do not need anyone else on board to reclaim your peace.”

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.

Connect with Jillian

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

Heart Math BioFeedback Device:

Self Mastery Program:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

Bold Beautiful Life Membership:

https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

019: Romanizing Life & Business: Conscious Choice as a Daily Practice

Mon, 15 Dec 2025 04:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jill get real about what it means to work in environments that are not fully aligned with your values, your energy, or your long-term direction. Not every workplace is conscious, healthy, or growth oriented. You still get to show up consciously, protect your inner peace, and make empowered decisions about whether to stay or leave.

They explore:

• Severing the identity string between who you are and how others treat you at work

• Seeing other people’s reactions as a reflection of them, not you

• How to maintain inner peace even when the environment feels chaotic

• How to offer compassion without abandoning yourself

• When mismatches are workable and when it is time for a hard no

• How to set loving and firm boundaries that stop cycles of disrespect

• The moment Meg confronted a charge nurse and how it instantly shifted the dynamic

• Why complaining to coworkers harms you and the culture

• What it means to stop perpetuating dysfunction

• Journaling, clarity exercises, and reflection practices to help you decide what is next

• The difference between misalignment and abuse

• How to evaluate whether you are meant to stay, reposition, or leave entirely

• The quiet heartbreak of pouring your genius into someone else’s vision

• Signs that it may be time to explore your purpose, your path, and your own expression of work

This episode is grounding, practical, and clarifying. It is especially helpful if you are in the gray zone of asking yourself whether to stay or go.

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

“I am safe everywhere I go. When you believe that, you get to act from integrity instead of fear.”

“Other people’s reactions are about their nervous system, not your worth.”

“If you do not speak up, you are unintentionally keeping the unhealthy dynamic alive.”

“Compassion does not require you to carry someone else’s emotional load.”

“Misalignment does not mean someone is wrong. It may just mean it is not your environment anymore.”

“When you stay in a place that drains you, you start to perpetuate the very things you wish would change.”

“Sometimes leaving is the most loving thing you can do for yourself and for the culture.”

We Would Love to Connect With You

Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Resources Mentioned

Self Mastery Program: profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Bold Beautiful Life Membership: https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

018: When to Stay and When to Go

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 02:00:00 -0400

In this honest and validating episode, Jillian and Meg explore what it means to work inside systems that are not always well, conscious, or emotionally healthy. Not every workplace is built with emotional intelligence, self-awareness, or supportive leadership, yet many people still find themselves needing to show up, perform, and stay grounded.

This conversation is a guide for navigating those environments without losing yourself. Jill and Meg unpack how to maintain integrity, energy, and boundaries, while also discerning when a job can be navigated with rooted professionalism and when it might truly be time to go.

What We Explore:

The Myth of the Perfect Workplace

Why the fantasy of a fully aligned, fully conscious workplace often sets us up for disappointment
How to differentiate between normal workplace challenges and truly unhealthy environments
The grounding truth from Gallup: only 23 percent of employees worldwide feel meaningfully engaged

Disengagement vs Energetic Protection

How to tell when you’re checked out versus wisely protecting your nervous system
Why your energy naturally adapts in environments that lack emotional intelligence
Why disengagement is often a sign of deeper wisdom, not apathy

Emotional Contagion at Work

Research showing that mood spreads quickly through teams
How one person’s unmanaged stress or hostility affects an entire environment
Why boundaries and emotional awareness are essential for protecting your own experience

Burnout as a Systemic Issue

The World Health Organization defines burnout as a workplace problem, not a personal flaw
Why you can be doing your absolute best in a broken system and still feel depleted
Jill shares how operational load affects human behavior and why Trellis exists to relieve that burden

Rooted Professionalism

Practicing “detached concern”: caring deeply without self-abandonment
Research from healthcare and caregiving showing lower burnout when professionals have healthy emotional boundaries
Meg’s insights on holding empathy without over-identifying or being consumed

Identity and Resilience

Studies on role detachment: why separating your identity from your job increases resilience
Understanding the difference between what you do and who you are
How identity detachment protects your joy and prevents burnout in unwell systems

Key Themes and Takeaways

Most workplaces are not emotionally aware
And that has nothing to do with your worth or your performance.
Your job does not define you
A healthy separation makes you stronger, clearer, and more resilient.
Boundaries are professionalism
Caring deeply does not require sacrificing yourself.
Burnout is not your fault
Often it reflects systemic issues outside your control.
Staying or leaving is a conscious choice
Both are valid when done from clarity, not fear.

Questions to Reflect On

What needs to be true for you to stay?
What is a hard limit or boundary that protects your wellbeing?
If that boundary is crossed, what plan would you put in motion to leave?

Resources Mentioned

Amy Porterfield — “Two Weeks Notice”

A guide for planning a transition with intention and empowerment.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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Website: profoundwellness.net

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017: The Sacred Pause — Finding Meaning in the Mundane

Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0400

In this reflective and grounding episode, Jillian and Meg explore the quiet spaces in life — the waiting, the boredom, the in-between moments that most of us rush past. From long afternoons at kids’ sporting events to everyday pauses that feel unproductive, they reframe these “empty” moments as invitations to presence, creativity, and deeper connection.

This conversation is an anchor for anyone feeling overstimulated or constantly in motion. Instead of dismissing downtime as inconvenient or boring, Meg and Jill show how these pauses can become sacred places of renewal, imagination, and emotional regulation.

What We Explore

The Psychology of Boredom

Why our brains crave stimulation and struggle with quiet
How boredom activates the brain’s default mode network, which fuels creativity, idea generation, and deeper reflection
The surprising study: people who completed a boring task became more creative afterward

Stillness as a Path to Creativity

How “dead time” can become “depth time”
Why letting yourself be bored is one of the most powerful things you can do for your imagination
How Meg encourages her kids with “Being bored is good for you — go get creative”

Honoring Our Nervous Systems

Our bodies were not designed for constant input
How overstimulation keeps us in low-level stress
Why slow, unfilled moments allow the parasympathetic nervous system to support healing, digestion, and emotional balance

Attention Restoration Theory

How low-demand environments like nature or repetitive tasks restore cognitive bandwidth
Why your brain “comes back online” when you stop trying to be productive

Boredom as a Mirror

Kierkegaard’s belief that boredom exposes the parts of ourselves we avoid
How quiet moments bring up emotions, unmet needs, and inner truths
Jill’s question for listeners: Are you comfortable with yourself in the quiet? What does it reveal?

Connection Through Slowness

How shared downtime increases belonging
The subtle intimacy of sitting, waiting, observing, and being present with others
How the mundane moments often hold the most honest togetherness

Key Themes and Takeaways

Boredom sparks creativity
Your mind begins connecting dots you didn’t know were there.
Stillness supports your nervous system
Quiet time helps your body process stress and return to balance.
The mundane holds meaning
Those bleacher hours and slow afternoons can be sacred.
The in-between matters
Depth, imagination, and connection grow when life is not filled to the brim.
Slowness is not a problem to fix
It is a rhythm to honor.

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Your reflections, questions, and ah ha moments mean so much to us.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/

Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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Website: profoundwellness.net

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

Links Mentioned in Podcast:

Self Mastery Program

profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

Bold Beautiful Life Membership

https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership

016: Decoded and Never Defined

Sat, 29 Nov 2025 12:30:00 -0400

In this playful and insightful episode, Jillian and Meg dive into the world of personality tests and how understanding yourself can become a powerful tool in both life and work. From CliftonStrengths to 16 Personalities, DISC, Enneagram, and even a touch of Human Design, this conversation explores how these frameworks can reflect our tendencies, illuminate our strengths, and reveal blind spots we may otherwise miss.

This episode is not about boxing anyone in. It is about awareness, permission, and stepping into the truest version of yourself.

What We Explore

CliftonStrengths

Jill shares her top strengths of connection, positivity, empathy, developer, and strategic, and how reading them felt like being deeply understood. She and Meg unpack how strengths evolve over time and how they show up differently in entrepreneurship.

Why Self Awareness Matters

Both hosts reflect on how understanding their own thinking, tendencies, and energy patterns directly impacts their confidence, teamwork, and leadership.

16 Personalities Results

Both Jill and Meg surprisingly (or not surprisingly!) score as ENFJ-A the protagonist. They explore what each trait actually means in plain language and how this profile aligns with their work on the podcast and in their careers. They discuss assertiveness, judging, empathy, and the difference between being emotional and being emotionally stable.

Human Design Insights

Both are Manifesting Generators. Jill and Meg unpack what it means to follow what lights you up, pivot quickly, and make decisions after riding an emotional wave. They explore how this framework can remove shame about how they naturally work and create.

DISC Assessment

They compare their different DISC profiles and talk candidly about what it means to embrace traits like dominance, steadiness, influence, and support. A powerful breakthrough occurs around Jill owning her assertiveness and dominance as strengths rather than liabilities.

Enneagram Preview

Meg shares how her Enneagram type shifts under stress and health and how this mirrors the concept of default patterns. Jill gets excited to dig into this more in a future episode.

Key Themes and Takeaways

Awareness creates choice

When you understand your tendencies, you can direct them instead of reacting from them.

Your strengths are not random

They show up everywhere. In how you think. How you communicate. How you lead. How you create.

Blind spots are not weaknesses

They are simply places to seek support or delegate, not parts of yourself to judge.

Your natural rhythm is valid

Whether you work in creative bursts, need simmer time to make decisions, or pivot fast, you are not broken.

Language matters

Words like dominant or bossy may carry old meaning, but they can also be powerful traits when reframed.

No one fits in a box

These tools are simply mirrors. Not definitions.

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015: Noticing our Defaults

Mon, 17 Nov 2025 02:00:00 -0400

In this conversation, Jill and Meg unpack the concept of human defaults. They explore how our nervous systems and life experiences shape the patterns we fall back on, especially under stress. Together they examine how awareness, self trust, and curiosity can help us shift from fear based reactions to conscious choices in both life and work.

Key Themes:

Understanding the nervous system’s role in default behaviors
Recognizing fear based reactions in leadership and relationships
The power of awareness and self trust as the opposite of fear
The spiral staircase of growth and learning the same lessons at deeper levels
Using pattern interruption and the Deepest Fear Inventory to change subconscious patterns

Quotes:

“When things get hard, we revert back to our defaults. It makes sense because it takes energy to grow.”
“Fear drives us back to what feels safe, even if it no longer serves us.”
“Everything is solvable. Take one step at a time.”
“You learn the same lessons over and over again, just at higher levels of awareness.”
“The stuff you don’t deal with goes down to the basement and lifts weights.”

Call to Action

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Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

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Resources Mentioned:

Self Master Program: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program
Deepest Fear Inventory Exercise:
Dear God,
I hate and resent (what I desire)
I absolutely refuse to have/be (what I desire)
Because I have a deep fear... (fill in the blank with whatever comes up) 20x
Dear God - I ask that you remove these fears. I pray only for knowledge of your will for me and the power to carry it out. Thank you
Then RIP IT UP!!!

014: Breaking Patterns of Overgiving

Mon, 10 Nov 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this heartfelt conversation, Meg opens up about recurring relationship patterns, overgiving, and the struggle to let go of control. Jillian helps her unpack what happens when we skip the “middle space” between awareness and empowerment, the emotional processing that keeps us human. Together, they explore self judgment, pattern interruption, and how curiosity can transform both relationships and inner peace.

Key Themes:

Recognizing emotional patterns and breaking cycles through awareness
The importance of feeling before fixing
How self judgment mirrors judgment of others
The power of curiosity as an antidote to judgment
Pattern interruption as a way to shift relationship dynamics

Quotes:

“Trying to control has resulted in losing control because I’m skipping the middle piece of actually feeling it.”
“If you’re judging yourself, you’re absolutely judging others and vice versa.”
“Curiosity is the antidote to judgment.”
“It’s okay for me to be disappointed. It’s okay for me to be frustrated. It’s okay to cry.”
“Relationships connect us to our humanity. They have to be front and central to who we are.”

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013: When Life Doesn’t Go as Planned

Mon, 03 Nov 2025 01:00:00 -0400

From car breakdowns to life breakdowns, this solo episode explores how to navigate unexpected changes with grace and self-compassion. Meg shares her three-step self-mastery framework and real-life stories about transforming disruptions into opportunities for growth through awareness, acceptance, and empowered action.

Themes we explore:

Flexibility and adaptation when plans fall apart
Moving from victim mindset to hero mindset
The power of self-compassion and releasing judgment
Three-step self-mastery framework: Awareness, Acceptance, Empowerment
How self-love creates ripple effects in all relationships
Trusting that things happen "for you, not to you"

Quotes worth remembering:

"Meet yourself where you are today, not where you think you should be."

"Things happen for you, not to you—even when it doesn't feel that way."

"Simple doesn't mean easy, but it becomes more natural with practice."

"When you treat yourself with compassion, it changes how you show up for everyone else."

"Take a zoomed-out, non-judgmental view of your life and patterns."

Takeaways:

Disruptions might be redirections in disguise
Self-awareness without judgment is the first step to change
Acceptance of where you are creates space for empowered action
Self-compassion has ripple effects on parenting, relationships, and work
Regular practice makes these mindset shifts more natural over time

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Self Mastery Program mentioned in this episode: https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program

012: Sparring Partners

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 01:00:00 -0400

We often think of conflict as a threat. In this episode, Meg and Jill explore the idea of “sparring partners,” the people who push us, stretch us, and sharpen us, in business, family, and life. They share stories of work tension, marriage, parenting, and personal growth, and how reframing these challenges as opportunities can move us from victim to empowered participant.

Themes we explore:

Reframing conflict: victim vs. empowered mindset
Healthy sparring vs. toxic dynamics
Agreements as the foundation of growth partnerships
Marriage, children, and parents as our first sparring partners
Rupture and repair in relationships
Extracting lessons even when others don’t grow
Why our closest relationships are our greatest teachers

Quotes worth remembering:

“A sparring partner is someone who pushes you just enough to grow.”
“Conflict doesn’t have to mean victimhood, it can mean empowerment.”
“Armor up and you’ll miss the lesson. Stay open and you’ll grow.”
“Rupture and repair are part of every healthy relationship.”
“Children are our greatest mirrors and our greatest teachers.”
“You don’t need their growth as a prerequisite for your own.”
“We get to decide if we’ll be victims of conflict or empowered by it.”

Takeaways:

Reframe difficult people as sparring partners who refine you.
Growth requires healthy tension, not toxic dynamics.
Agreements create safety in sparring partnerships.
Parenting, marriage, and business all mirror the same lesson: conflict can be a teacher.
Your growth doesn’t depend on someone else’s, stay in your lane and learn the lesson.

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Website: Trellis
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Website: profoundwellness.net
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/megan.fikse
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/m.laidlaw

011: Burnout Is Not a Badge of Honor

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:00:00 -0400

We’ve been told exhaustion means success. In this episode, Meg and Jill dismantle the toxic badge of burnout and explore why rest is not a luxury — it’s the foundation of sustainable high performance. They share personal stories from corporate life, healthcare, and home, plus practical ways to insert rest into busy days without guilt.

Themes we explore:

Why burnout is celebrated (and why it shouldn’t be)
How micro-pauses (5 minutes) reset mind and body
“I am her now” mantra — becoming your future self today
Rest as a prerequisite for performance, not a reward after
Breaking hustle culture with intentional routines
Nurses, self-advocacy, and sustainable caregiving
Shifting from grind to sustainability: work hard, play hard, rest well

Quotes worth remembering:

“Burnout is not a badge of honor, so stop wearing it as such.”
“Rest is the prerequisite of high performance, not the reward after performance.”
“Be who you want to be in the future right now: I am her now.”
“Diluted focus gets diluted results.”
“If we only rest when the work is done, we’ll never rest — the work is never done.”
“Take care of you first and the rest will come.”
“Work hard, play hard, and rest well.”

Takeaways:

Rest and micro-pauses prevent burnout and actually improve productivity.
Sustainable performance means weaving rest into your rhythm, not bolting it on after.
Changing hustle culture starts with one brave choice at a time.
Healthcare, corporate, and entrepreneurial worlds all share the same trap — and the same solution.

We’d love to connect with you.

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email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

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Website: www.profoundwellness.net

Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

010: The Myth About Emotions At Work

Mon, 13 Oct 2025 03:00:00 -0400

We were told to be “professional” which too often meant “be a robot.” Meg and Jillian unpack why regulated emotion at work is not only human, it’s healthy and productive. From a raw story at the bedside to boardroom norms, they share how leaders can “go first,” how tears and trembles reset the nervous system, and simple micro-practices (20 seconds to 3 minutes) that prevent blowups and build trust.

Light advisory: Brief mention of infant loss.

Themes we explore:

Why “no feelings at work” is a harmful myth
Armor vs. authenticity (and how it affects performance)
Nervous-system basics: crying, shaking, co-regulation
Micro-practices: debriefs, short walks, permission to pause
Leaders go first: modeling regulated emotion and safety
Parenting parallels → better management habits
“Slow down to speed up”: the business case for humane work

Quotes worth remembering:

“Crying isn’t cracking. It’s a reset for the nervous system.”
“When I see people emotional at work, it shows me that they care.”
“Armor doesn’t serve us or our employers. It shuts down the parts of us that could make the biggest impact.”
“Leaders go first. When you show your humanity, you give everyone else permission to do the same.”
“The worst thing you can say to a child is ‘Don’t cry.’ That’s how we teach people to stuff emotions instead of moving through them.”
“Slow down to speed up. Pausing for emotion makes us more effective, not less.”
“Be brave enough to go first, even if you’re the only one. That’s how change starts.”

Takeaways

Regulated emotion ≠ weakness; it’s how we reset and think clearly.
Tiny releases (20s–3m) beat repressed feelings that explode later.
Leaders can create micro safe spaces today—no policy change required.

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009: Business 101: Basic Business Lingo

Mon, 06 Oct 2025 02:00:00 -0400

In this fun, lighter episode, Meg quizzes Jillian on all the acronyms and business lingo she throws around. From ROI to ARR to KPIs, they break down what these terms really mean, how they apply in real life, and why clarity and values matter more than jargon. A great listen for anyone who’s ever felt lost in “business-speak” but still wants to lead with heart.

Top Topics

ROI, Revenue, ARR: demystifying core business terms.
Bootstrapping vs. outside funding (PE/VC).
KPIs and BHAGs: measuring success without losing humanity.
Conversion rates & reframing sales as service.
Why every company should hand new hires a glossary.

Connect with Jillian:

Join Meg's Bold, Beautiful Life Membership

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Utilize Meg's Self-Mastery Program

Website: profoundwellness.net

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

008: What Girls Are Taught About Money

Mon, 29 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0400

Meg and Jillian dig into the money stories women inherit and the ways they can shift them. They share personal experiences of guilt, pricing struggles, and the cultural pressure to be “polite” about wealth. From childhood lessons to entrepreneurial growth, this conversation challenges women to own their value, seek abundance, and model new possibilities for the next generation.

Together they discuss:

Scarcity vs. abundance in women’s money stories.
Generational differences: girls asking for what they’re worth.
Guilt, comparison, and the trap of “undeserving.”
Pricing struggles and claiming your value in business.
Teaching kids money with intention.

Connect with Jillian:

Join Meg's Bold, Beautiful Life Membership

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Utilize Meg's Self-Mastery Program

Website: profoundwellness.net

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

007: Stop Shrinking, Start Expanding

Mon, 22 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this short, powerful episode, Meg and Jillian explore what it means to stop shrinking and start expanding. From nervous system practices to shifting your everyday language, they share real stories about moving past fear, people-pleasing, and “sorry” habits to step into authentic power.

They dive into:

The hidden ways women shrink in business and life.
Reframing anxiety as a signal, not a stop sign.
Why language matters: replacing apology with gratitude.
Parenting + business stories of stepping into power.

Connect with Jillian:

Join Meg's Bold, Beautiful Life Membership

email: jillianp@trellissuite.com

Connect with Meg:

Utilize Meg's Self-Mastery Program

Website: profoundwellness.net

Click Here to Join Meg's Bold, Beautiful Life Membership

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006: Overgiving, Identity, and Creating Space for Growth

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Rooted and Rehumanizing, Meg and Jillian continue their conversation on growth edges. This time exploring what happens when high-achieving tendencies collide with the desire to serve deeply. They talk about the difference between overgiving and overdelivering, the importance of conserving energy, and how identity can get tangled up in work, roles, and external validation.

Meg shares the evolution of her new Bold Beautiful Life community and how creating group spaces allows for both collective transformation and personal sustainability. Jillian reflects on her own experiences with Trellis and in corporate roles, noticing how tying identity to performance led to over-complication and perfectionism, and how cutting ties with those patterns brought freedom. Together, they unpack what it means to lead from your highest self while letting go of conditional worth.

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Themes we explore:

Over-giving vs. overdelivering
Building communities that multiply impact without leaking energy
The danger of tying identity to work or roles
Receiving appreciation vs. external validation
Parenting and language: raising kids without attaching their worth to labels like “smart” or “beautiful”
Mirroring growth journeys and creating ripple effects

Quotes worth remembering:

“I can’t want it more than them.”
“Over-giving is not the same as overdelivering."
“When business is good, business is good. And Jill is still Jill.”
“I was amazing before anyone else said I was amazing.”
“It’s not about being special, it’s about being uniquely you."
“Our kids deserve to know their worth isn’t tied to performance, beauty, or intelligence.”

We’d love to connect with you.

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Website: profoundwellness.net

Email: meg@profoundwellness.net

Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw

005: The Fear of Success at the Edges of Growth

Mon, 08 Sep 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Rooted and Rehumanizing, Meg and Jillian unpack an unexpected but deeply human conversation that started on a day they almost didn’t record. What unfolded was an exploration of visibility, success, and the edges of growth that make us feel both excited and terrified.

They dive into what it really means to step into bigger visions, why fear of success can feel heavier than fear of failure, and how trusting yourself expands your capacity to lead and live fully. This episode is an invitation to embrace your uniqueness, lean into growth edges, and root yourself in who you already are.

Themes we explore:

Moving through the fear of success
Expanding your capacity to hold more
Recognizing growth edges and choosing to lean in
Building deeper self-trust
Naming and normalizing the overwhelm that comes with success
Living into the Be → Do → Have model

Quotes worth remembering:

“I have to be visible to get this message out there.”
“At some point, you have to trust yourself enough to stop anticipating and just handle it in the moment.”
“Everything starts with an idea, then it’s up to you to make it real.”
“Maybe don’t perform. Maybe just be.”
“Be. Do. Have. First, be the version of yourself you want to be, and take action from that place.”
“I am her. I’m not waiting. I already am.”

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Clarity & Claiming Exercise - PDF Download

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004: Inner Work as the Foundation of Success

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 01:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jillian explore what it really means to build a life and business from the inside out. They unpack how hustle culture tricks us into performing for worth, how true success often requires unbecoming, and why your inner landscape is the most important part of your leadership, healing, and evolution. This is for anyone who's ever wondered if doing “the inner work” actually matters in a results-driven world… spoiler alert: it does!

Themes:

Redefining success from within
Healing before hustling
Performing vs. embodying
Inner safety and nervous system regulation
Building sustainable leadership through self-trust
Being instead of constantly doing
Letting go of "shoulds" in business and life

Quotes:

“You can’t outsource your self-trust.”
“So much of leadership is learning to feel safe in your own body.”
“If you build on shaky inner ground, the whole thing crumbles eventually.”
“Doing the inner work is not a luxury… it’s the foundation.”
“Success without embodiment isn’t sustainable.”
“When you lead from your wholeness, you invite others into theirs too.”

We’d love to connect with you

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003: What We Mean by Rooted & Rehumanizing

Mon, 18 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg and Jillian unpack the heart behind the podcast title: what it means to be rooted, how we’ve become disconnected from our humanity, and why rehumanizing our approach to work, leadership, and life is essential.

They explore the courage it takes to slow down, to come back to the body, and to remember that we are not machines… We are cyclical, sensitive, and sovereign beings.

This episode is both a grounding and a call forward.

Themes:

Coming back to your body as a sacred act
Disconnection from self in high-performance cultures
Living from cycles, not systems
The difference between coping and healing
Rehumanizing how we lead, serve, and relate
Grounding as a tool for clarity and truth
Creating space for pause, feeling, and integration

Quotes:

“To be rooted is to know where you begin and end.”
“The world tells us to go faster, but wisdom lives in the pause.”
“Rehumanizing is remembering we are not machines… we are rhythmic, messy, and alive.”
“You can’t rehumanize your business if you’re dissociated from your body.”
“We’ve learned to perform our roles, but unlearning that performance is where the healing begins.”
“If you're always productive but never present, are you actually living?”

We’d love to connect with you

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002: Why I'm Here, Meg’s Introduction

Mon, 11 Aug 2025 02:30:00 -0400

In this episode, Meg shares her story and the winding path that led her to this moment. From nursing and navigating the healthcare system to entrepreneurship, motherhood, and deep personal transformation, Meg invites listeners into her journey of learning to trust the pivot, root into purpose, and rehumanize her work and life.

If you’ve ever felt like your story didn’t follow a linear path or that you were “too much” or “not enough” at the same time, this episode is for you.

Themes:

Trusting the pivot
The courage to evolve
Integrating personal values into professional life
Deconstructing systems that no longer serve us
The messy, nonlinear path of becoming
Motherhood, entrepreneurship, and healing
Reclaiming intuition and inner truth

Quotes:

“We were taught how to serve others but not how to serve ourselves.”
“I had to unhook from a system that told me who I needed to be and start asking, who do I want to be?”
“Sometimes healing looks like finally listening to your own voice.”

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