Topics covered:

-Augmented Reality Immersive Headphones. The sound changes as you walk around the rood. It’s wild to experience.

-Listening to Rush on the Atari 800.

-Impact of the .mp3 format.

SLAM Bumper: Rich Catino.

Full disclosure. The room around us was seriously noisy. Some of the audio is rough. We know. The second half of the video is better. Yes, we did run Noise Reduction.

Lyrics reference: Megadeth.

SLAM Bumper: Jason McMaster

-Be humble

-Forming your neuro pathways.

-Practice thinking positively

Camera work: Eric Haley.

Lyrics reference: Whitesnake.

-Making 10 cents an hour.

-You’re treated like a king and then you’re a bum and then you’re a king.

-Try and look at it logically.

Camera work: Eric Haley.

Lyrics quote: Lorraine Lewis

SLAM Bumper: Sam Saltman

1. I'm not that different. My trajectory has always been sex.
2. I believe in manifesting, I believe in frequency.
3. drama and arguments before you're getting ready to go on stage - - so not cool.

SLAM Bumper: 1 minute

Lyrics reference: Professor Elemental.

-If you've got other orangutans you want to speak to on your presumably orangutan-themed podcast, you just crack on, mate.

-What would I be doing today if I felt on top of the world? How would I treat myself?

-The business of silliness is really important.

-Loneliness plays a huge part in modern society and how sad people get.

Chris understands the psychology and reality of music and depression at about five levels deeper than anyone else. Jack is usually pretty stoic, but he gets emotional during the course of this conversation. This one just hits home.

Trigger warning: There is frank, open talk about suicide in this episode. If you are aware that you or someone you know may be at risk, call “988” from your phone. You are not alone. You are not without hope.

SLAM Bumper: Jason McMaster

Quotes:

-My first book was just a humor thing, which is extra funny considering how depressing my music is.

-The depression may be telling us the truth as it sees it.

-When the despair comes, if you can, see if there's a kindness you can do

https://thereticent.net/home

Intranced - James-Paul Luna

Persekutor - Vlad the Inhaler

Three of the best NWOTHM vocalists in the game today talk about the challenges and rewards of the musician life.

Lyrics Reference: Saxon

Host(s):Jack Mangan, and Mark Pruett (The Whiskey Network)

Jack’s T-shirt: Fender

SLAM Bumper: Bobby Blitz

Lead quote: People are eating this stuff up. Everybody who's in the room is in the room for a very specific reason, and it's because of the music.

Quotes:

1. It used to be not important to me, and I got kind of in some dangerous situations. . . I used to do all kinds of crazy stuff.
2. The front man needs to be, yeah, hydrated, lubed up, and rested.
3. The main reason I do that, another job, you know, is so I can set aside the time and have the funds to make the tour, to make the recordings of our music and, you know, give the peoples what they want.

SLAM Bumpers: Doro Pesch

Quotes from this episode:

1. it's almost like the secret silent killer, isn't it?
2. I'm grateful to be able to have lived my life in Levi's and motorcycle boots.
3. I was drinking with Pete Steele. I mean, what do you think's gonna happen?

Lyrics Reference: The Rolling Stones

SLAM bumper: Burton C. Bell and David Ellefson

Three Episode Quotes:

1. There you go, let's put that on a poster and sell it.
2. Kids mature a lot quicker in New York. It's just because of a product of surroundings, but it's the greatest city in the world.
3. I get on that treadmill, and by the time I get off it, it is therapeutic.

https://www.siriusxm.com/hosts/keith-roth

Lyrics Reference: Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers

SLAM Bumper: Sam Saltman

Quotes:

-I still buy vinyl, but here's the thing. I don't buy vinyl to actually listen to vinyl. I buy vinyl from artists I love to support the artist.

-You can take steps on your own, on your own website, to make it super convenient and dirt cheap for the listener to download your stuff.

https://michaelbrandvold.com/

https://simpler.media/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

1. “I believe that every person that buys a ticket to a Save Ferris show is precious, and deserves our love and respect.”
2. “I cared immensely about them, but they didn't care about me.”
3. “You make your own waffles in the morning.”

Ariel Hyatt of CyberPR and Megan Matousek of Loco+.

Lyrics reference: Prince

SLAM Bumper: 10 voices in 1 minute

1. “He was one of the… he still is one of the most dynamic and sexy performers I've ever seen.”
2. “How can you start a movement, even if it's only 20 people, in your dining room listening to your album?”
3. “They all have their own beautiful art and skill, and they're not getting seen because of the algorithms.”
4. “I worked for George Lucas. . . and George Lucas was the innovator of ownership and IP.”

CyberPR

Loco+

Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad

Lyrics Reference: Grand Funk Railroad

Bumper: Brian Pulido

1. The most incredible first-hand Jimi Hendrix story I’ve ever heard.
2. “Come over here and put your hand on the television set.”
3. “That's what's the matter with the world, is corporations.”
4. “When I died, Dude, I was in heaven.”

LINKS TBD

Lyrics reference: Iron Maiden

1. “It's not a cult. It's not a cult.”
2. “Bill and Ted. . . were Wyld Stallyns. . . they had the video they were making, they had cool-looking instruments, they had a logo, but they didn't know how to play, and they probably weren't gonna get Eddie Van Halen to join them.”
3. “I'm just gonna sit here and teach myself the accordion and put out an album of my hot accordion licks.”
4. A spectacular recording SNAFU occurs. We intentionally kept some of it in the episode.

http://www.davidleesummers.com/index.html

https://www.bloodgutsandstory.com/

www.easalle.com

Lyrics Reference: Run-DMC

1. “The more you front like you're strong and you got it together, your f***ing strength stays back, because they know you lying”
2. “I'm living proof you can beat and defeat whatever it is that you're going through.”
3. “Don’t be Charlie.”
4. Your emotions are yours to have.

https://thekingdmc.com/

Lyrics reference: Van Halen

You need the groupies, you need the laughter back. Without them, rock and roll is boring.

1. “And if you feel unsafe, you know, the road is a family. You call the tour manager.”
2. “It’s because the corporate world has taken over. And when that happens, the Rock and Roll dies.”
3. Alycen was with John Entwistle when he died. She talks about that awful situation and the aftermath.
4. Many, many musician names are recalled - - from Hip-Hop, Country, Rock, Metal, Grunge. . .
5. “Did you say ‘Dave Gahan?’”
6. “Not every band can hold the egos together.”

Alycen Rowse Linktree

1. For every Stephen King, for every Rush, there's maybe 10 that will be really lucky if they can make a living wage.
2. I think all of us go through these moments where we're on top of the world, we're in possession of our full confidence, and then we're on the flip side.
3. Fixing food for other people is absolutely my love language.
4. What's an influence that we would never expect in your life?

Be creative and do it now, you know, and live the consequences, or live the experience, because you just never know what's going to happen tomorrow.

https://roadslessertraveled.com/

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/55207422.R_D_Rivers

https://bert-edens.com/

https://whiskeynetwork.net/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

Topics and quotes: 

• Any art that I appreciate, I like knowing where it comes from and what those people's influences are, and so I think it's just a natural curiosity for me to trace all those roots 
• Hole in the Sky, to me, is very much a better Black Sabbath song.
• You've got people saying, “Well, concerts should be free, or $5. I grew up going to $5 shows, why isn't it $5?” 
• You can see I've got a pretty good, scar across my neck. It looks like I came out of a Highlander movie, successfully. 
• I didn't want to have to wrap up my affairs and sell my records and finish my novel in 6 months. 
• Making a list, or making a call, or making a plan.

Topics and Quotes:

• You have to speak a very, very great language, very intellectual, to sing in French.
• I needed to tell many things that I kept very… for a long, very long time, inside my body, inside myself, my brain.
• Try to understand that no one will come to knock to your door to save you.
• Because many people can't understand that, and they don't want to understand, because maybe they're afraid, we don't know.

• Lyrics reference: Rush 
• Quotes: 
• -The record business is broken. We don't know what we're doing. 
• -I really know how to write books, but I don't play any instruments. 

-I'm quite willing to sing outside of my comfort zone, as it were, with Saga. In fact, I invite it, because I really enjoy doing that and expanding my range.

https://wordfirepress.com/collections/terra-incognita

https://sagagen.com/

https://thehighlanderco.com/

Quotes from this episode: 

• There's not a lot of money coming from the sales. So you're going to have to get on the road. 
• It's really important for people to get an identity. 

Savatage is like a little little anchor in the middle right now that I've been missing.

No lyric reference this episode. (What?!)

https://www.chriscaffery.com/

• Lyrics reference: Warlock 
• An amazing story involving lightning.
•  Doro’s Metal Queen Metal Music cruise The “Warriors of the Sea” album. 
• I think our live versions, they are always 10,000 times better than the studio versions because of the fans. 
• It's very hard for musicians to survive only on streaming. 

Lemmy and Dio, they were my best friends, actually.

https://www.doropesch.com/

Lyrics reference: The Rods

Topics and quotes: 

• I had to call Ronnie back and say, “Ronnie, as much as it breaks my heart. . .” 
• Lots of amazing stories about his cousin Ronnie James Dio, their time together in Elf, the tragic 1968 car accident, Ronnie’s departure to join Rainbow, Ronnie’s talent. . . 
• The Rods legendary career, plus the new album: “Wild Dogs Unchained” 
• How he got the “Rock” nickname 
• In the 80s, you wrote songs about partying, and girls, and, you know, the whole sex, drugs, and rock and roll type of thing. 
• The actual 40 minutes, 45 minutes, hour, however long you're on stage playing is the actual drug that we are hooked on. 
• 99.9% of all the shows that we've done in the last 15 years have been break-even shows. 
• All it takes is one song. 

https://therods.com/

Lyrics reference: Alice Cooper

Quotes: 

Being in the studio with Alice Cooper and Bob Ezrin 

The music industry is in a sort of depressing state when it comes to compensation for your recorded material 

As an engineer in the year 2025, you need to be adaptable. You need to be able to embrace the new technology that's coming out. You need to be able to work in all those mediums. 

The world is so inundated with the amount of people putting out music, that it's really hard to have a charting record in 2025. 

The days of bands, you know, like, like supergroups. . . There's not gonna be another Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath. . . The closest thing we have to that in 2025 would be the Foo Fighters. 

http://www.fullwellrecording.com/ 

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

• It takes you a lifetime to learn all of these things, so much better when you have someone to show you the way. 
• Hopefully you can find your niche and live a healthy life playing music.
• If you're a local artist, you're playing in nightclubs. . . the money that you make just barely pays your daily living expenses. 
• For you musicians, all you gotta do is continue to write, continue to create, and we'll put your music in a database and allow those, film companies that hear, listen to it
• if you're into music, you have to do it for the love, because if you're trying to do it for the money, you'll go down the wrong path every time. 

https://phxmf.com/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

Lyrics Reference: Overkill 

• You're definitely in charge of your own happiness, you know? And if you're not gonna be happy, nobody's gonna get you happy.
• If you're really in that much pain, you don't want to hit up 988, you don't want to, you know, hit up your mom or somebody, hit us up.
• You gotta leave some kind of light in there. You gotta trust in God, and listen to good music. That pulls people out of bad situations, your head, your mind.
• Things got a little heated right there, didn't they?
• We try to provide a silver lining and give energy and uplift people at the same time with it. Like, hey, we're here, we know that things might not be that great in life, but you know what? If there's a will, there's a way.
• [Re: band manager, Larry Jones]: I've never seen anybody who cared so much, who pushes so much, who fights so much for us, stands up for us. With promoters, for anybody that's trying to screw us around, he's always got our back. He takes care of so much, like, booking and accommodations, the travel. . . He sometimes complains the whole way, but, you know, he wouldn't have it any other way, because he loves doing it, and. . . he's pretty much our fifth member.
• It's so much harder when it's just one person. That's why before, I was like, yo, I'm grateful that we have 9, 10 people, you know, this Voltron effect with Rahway, because it's part of the reason why we've made it so far.

-Most of the time, when people fall into dark places, there's a part of their being, whether it's an artistic or creative side of them, that's screaming to get out.

• -12 tapes for a penny.
• -We're driving, and all of a sudden, we get hit from behind while we're on the freeway, going 75 miles an hour.
• -I study a lot of philosophy and a lot of spirituality with the I Ching and the Kundalini and the Tao, and all this stuff, right? So, I followed that strongly, and without that, I wouldn't be where I am today.
• -That's why I stress the spirituality for everybody. . . It's good for the body, it's good for the soul. What's good for the mind is good for the soul. You gotta integrate all those things. Had I not had that, I wouldn't have been able to deal with any of it, any at all, and it kept me grounded.
• -You gotta live through this world kind of naked. You gotta be. . . not afraid of being exposed
• - This ain't normal, I know that, but it just happened in this lifetime.
• -Respect's easy. If you're not confident, and you're not secure, there's no way that's gonna happen. I don't care if in a band, in a relationship, It's not gonna happen.
• -Just do it and have fun. It's not about a cash thing. In fact. . . money's gonna be going to so many organizations for that it's not about that. It's about the songs and the music.
• -Find the spirituality, no matter what it is, in the dark - - not the darkest moment. Because the darkest moment is going to be the easiest one to be able to go there, because you're going to be so dark, you're gonna need help. . . Try to go when you're right in the middle.
• -If you happen to get in a dark place, reading will get you out of it. Read something positive. Find something that you can connect with. . . Pick up a pencil.
• -Most of the time, when people fall into dark places, there's a part of their being, whether it's an artistic or creative side of them, that's screaming to get out.
• -Once you lock it, stay locked.
• -Second chances are good, and they happen, but not threes and fours.

Lyrics reference: Helstar 

Quotes from the episode: 

• Why do you think Jeff Loomis is one of his biggest fans? 
• Management can either make you or break you. We had a bad management. 
• And so for the younger bands, you know, you're pretty much going to be on your own, and you're going to deliver a record, and you're going to say, “Hey, it's a license deal!” and they're going to give you nothing. But they're going to put you out there in the world. You know what? You should take it, because that's as far as you're going to get now. 
• We're still reeling from the death of Ozzy Osbourne, which I thought would never happen. It just seemed like he was gonna outlive us all. 
• So think about it. If you got a flu... you've got Covid... Do you think you could sing? No, there's no way in the world what you do. It's affecting your body. 
• So that's what a lot of people need to understand. Lead singers don't have it that easy, although everybody else thinks they do, but they don't. 
• And you know what depression is. Yes, I've been there. I thought about jumping off a bridge. I thought about hanging myself, or whatever. But you know what at the end of the day it doesn't do you no good, man. You're gone. You have to outlive that. You have to be very confident in what you believe in. What a lot of people don't believe in is themselves. And you know what? Once you learn to love yourself, you will get over it, and it's not selfish.

Episode 25 in 2025!

Lyrics reference: Red Rider

It's a lifetime quest. If we want our lives to change, we have to change. You have to work on yourself. As Francois said, you have to give yourself love.

There's a lot of heart in that music. There's a lot of energy. There's a lot of fun, a lot of blood, sweat, and tears.

Have a really really good time playing music and inspire people to accomplish their dreams and have fun.

So did the hat have to come off at the nudist camp too?

We are taking care of pretty much everything. So we have to have a lot of different hats to make sure that the job's done.

I don't play that often, but when I do, there's so much music inside me, it has to come out somehow, and when I play, I explode.

if you're in trouble, don't, don't, don't run. Stay at the same place. The solution is around you.

https://atomiktrain.com/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

https://givebutter.com/lifeandmusic

Lyrics reference: Rage Against the Machine 

~Do I need an iPod to listen? 

~Available on all podcatchers. 

RSS Feed: https://feeds.captivate.fm/slam-summit/

Lyrics Reference: Context

~”I was Number 10 in the MTV chart. on radio one with Rihanna, the Arctic Monkeys. I was working with Ed Sheeran. . . Mike Skinner. . . I just signed with a subsidiary of Atlantic. and then I just sort of fell out of love from doing it.”

~”in a way, I've just swapped one obsession which was like music and trying to get signed on the radio for another, which is publishing and being cited. It's basically the same drug.”

~"Getting Paid in Cheese Sandwiches."

~”Can Music Make You Sick?” book 

~”The word ‘professional’ is meaningless.”

~”There's a huge desire to always be enthusiastic when you work in music. Everything's brilliant, everything's wonderful. “

~”’Well, yeah, they choose that lifestyle. So they get what they paid for.‘“

~”So the question is: What does success mean to you? How do you define it?”

~”in a way, I've just swapped one obsession which was like music and trying to get signed on the radio for another, which is publishing and being cited. It's basically the same drug.”

~“The myth is that if we ask people about suicide, that it'll make them, you know, it'll give them thoughts of wanting to. And we have to be like, ‘No, the data show that is not the case.’”

Lyrics reference: GWAR 

Quotes: 

~And when he went off the deep end he trashed all his gear, I was the first guy he called.

~A true publicist is somebody who has a good track record and is well known in various circles, has a reputation with industry standards and stuff, not somebody who just says I'm a promo guy.

~I’ll send your dog some cookies.

~If you have dependencies. . . And there's demons. . . Well, you know, you could pick up the phone and call somebody, and they can get you help. . . And we've all dealt with those artists and those people, whether it was friends, family, or a colleague.

~It wasn't the fact that they were missing interviews. It was just how they were acting to me as a person and a businessman

~Am I talking shit, or is Michael Brandvold talking shit? (SPOILER: Neither of us were talking shit). 

~Jack namedrops John Bambino. . . again. . . 

Lyrics reference: Warlock

Quotes from this episode: 

~I think it comes from pain. To be honest, I don't think that there is an amazing musician that hasn't experienced severe pain.

~I haven't even put my eyelashes on like I don't know how big of a deal that is.

~You have to have balls, bitch. They will judge your face, your body, your tits, your voice, your personality.

~You're on tour. You're at work. You're not playing around. You can't be late. 

~I'm going to put out the new song that I co-wrote with Ron Wasserman, the great composer that wrote the Power Rangers (the “Go Go Power Rangers” song). 

~You are the Karma. You gotta pay back. You gotta fight back.

~We say the compliments at the beginning, and then we proceed with all of the hard stuff.

~Shoutout to Doug Aldrich

~Respect for Ronnie James Dio

Lyrics reference: Deep Purple

Some quotes:

~Hearing that his dying wish was to get his platinum albums, I kind of took it into my own hands to try to help that situation.

~I pioneered the healing art of drum therapy, in which we train the synapses and the brains through drumming, which the D.A.D. Program is all based off.

~Drumming helped me alleviate my disabilities.

~Yeah, I witnessed you playing with Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Geoff Tate. . . 

~Eddie Trunk's just been great. He's been our host forever since the beginning. And of course, Wendy Dio, Cathy Rankin right? Cathy's awesome.

~The Metal Hall of Fame gala is gonna be Grammy Award level. I mean, all the way to the top. It's gonna be huge. 

~You may not get a great response. Don't give up. 

Alexander Skepp of Gosta Berlings Saga and Georg Edert of Elder. 

Gosta Berlings Saga have a new 2025 album called "Forever Now." You MUST check it out as soon as you finish listening to this discussion.  

This one is also special on the SLAM side because Jack Mangan is joined by two brilliant SLAM Band cohosts: Mark Pruett, and Sheila Unwin, Ed.D. 

Lyrics reference: Elder 

Quotes: 

~When times are tough, you look for those moments that you can sort of stay in for a while and just be there. And this album sort of became that for us.

~I do struggle with going back to a rhythm of practicing coming from tour when everything's super structured. And then you're at home, and there's no tour manager telling you to get up at 8 and go practice. You have to do that yourself.

~Something that I look for everywhere in life really is just being around people who inspire you.

~5 cooks alone cooking for the whole crew.

~Mark tells a great story about Steven Tyler and Joe Perry (of Aerosmith) getting on each others’ nerves.

Three smart and powerful creators. I learned A LOT. 

Lyrics reference: M/A/R/R/S 

~Bottom line is, we love the music. I remember, I was like, maybe 10 years old, and I had the old tape recorder, black thing, the little buttons on the, you know, and I was recording off the radio, doing the DJ thing.

~She's more of a boots. . . cats. . . boots, cats, boots. . . cats. . . boots, cats.

~Oh, you're pretty good for a girl. 

~The Limelight(NYC) was notorious for some of the crazy shit that went on there.

~The problem is that in the clubs, vices are very readily available. So it's super easy. So you just have to be careful.

~I didn't know. I just made it because I like the sound, but I wasn't putting a label on it myself. So you know just I'm learning as I go. 

~it's important, especially as an older DJ, to understand that the clubbing is really a young person's game. And it sucks to say that, but it's true. Absolutely there is ageism. And there's a reason why fewer and fewer older DJs, that aren't superstar established.

~Bottom line is, we love the music. I remember, I was like, maybe 10 years old, and I had the old tape recorder, black thing, the little buttons on the, you know, and I was recording off the radio, doing the DJ thing.

~It's so hard to make any movement in the industry now.

~Shout out to DJ Esteban.

And we also talk about Phish, Ministry , Jonathan Coulton, and lots more. 

Lyrics Reference: Shakespeare’s Sister. 

Quotes from the episode: 

~“If it was in a Spinal Tap movie or something, it would almost be comical. But you know the fact that it was real, and these were real people who had died.”

~“Seeing live music is really one of my favorite things to do. So that's really my passion, which I think is is one reason why I kind of got into this topic and wanted to bridge my 2 passions. . . suicide, prevention, psychology, mental health, and then music and the appreciation for music”

~“We really need to protect this profession that does so much for us.”

~“There are certain things we know that put people at risk for developing PTSD.”

~“Reducing the stigma, and not only mental health but suicide, suicide, prevention.”

~“it's not like these large record labels don't have any money, you know. There's resources out there”

~“Musicians and veterans often share some of the same unique risk factors. Loneliness. So veterans, when they come back from war, they may feel alone. Some of the relationship strain may also kind of be similar with being on tour versus being deployed to another country. So I think there's some of those risk factors, substance abuse definitely. Veterans are at a higher risk for substance abuse as our musicians. So there's definitely overlap in some risk factors. I think there's a need to help both to help both professions.”

~She talks about her career working with Slayer, Barry Manilow, The Sex Pistols, Alice Cooper, Jane’s Addiction, Carla Harvey, Anthrax, Ghost, America, Rod Stewart, and more. . . 

Some quotes and anecdotes: 

~“I remember thinking about Michael Jackson at the time, who was, you know, not getting a lot of good publicity, and it was really beginning to hurt him. And that's what really made me concerned about Perry.”

~“When I first met them, I went on the bus just to say hello and introduce myself and I was grabbed.”

~A Spinal Tap-esque story about a potentially dangerous mishap dropping confetti on a crowd. 

~“I have a client who has a background being involved in funerals, in embalming bodies that have passed, and in dealing with the family that has lost that person.”

~“I remember thinking about Michael Jackson at the time, who was, you know, not getting a lot of good publicity, and it was really beginning to hurt him. And that's what really made me concerned about Perry.”

~“They see he's human, and I think that does create an empathy and a bigger love for him.”

~“It would be great if he just wouldn't be taking the stage when he's in that place.”

~“There's always going to be people who get really enamored by themselves, but that really doesn't have a whole heck of a lot to do with the entertainment business, as it does with the individual.”

~“When I first met them, I went on the bus just to say hello and introduce myself and I was grabbed.”

~“Working with the Sex Pistols was definitely interesting. I look back on it fondly.”

*Common perceptions of singers as primadonnas. 

*The pressures on the singer to perform through sickness, fatigue, insecurity, etc. 

*Warmup rituals and voice care. 

*Love for: Jack Frost, Todd LaTorre, Municipal Waste, Pat Benatar, Geddy Lee, Elton John, Metallica, David Lee Roth

*Wait, are singers burping onstage?? 

Quotes from the episode: 

*It looks exactly like a bong, but it's not. 

*LSD: Lead Singer Disease. 

*it's that whatever your kung fu is. It's not going to be my kung fu right? And I'm amazed at that that there's just not one way for each of us to get through the day and tomorrow might be different.

*I like the weirdo Metal.

*This is really awesome and therapeutic for me to talk to you guys about this shit, because obviously it's a thing. 

*People don't reach out because it means . . . they think they failed. 

*I'm very introverted, right? So when I'm on stage, it's like a different side of me than how I am like offstage.

*I'm a woman. So I get. . . extremely sexualized.

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

https://watchtowerband.com/

https://dangeroustoys.us/

https://www.shumaun.com/

https://screamingmonkeysband.com/

https://www.sevenkingdomsofficial.com/

Some quotes and topics from this episode: 

~Amy’s work with bulldogs, and how it relates to mental health.

~Jack tells a college radio story involving John Bambino.  

~“Artists are artists. They're insane about their art in the best possible way, and they should be.”

~“Let's not pretend that Rock and Roll is sanitized.”

~“Sometimes you just need somebody to pull up a chair, just pull up a chair and listen.”

~“I know time heals wounds. But what am I supposed to do with all this pain right now?”

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

Some topics/quotes from this Summit:   

• Alex Van Halen's book (SPOILER: Steve likes it)
• 
  
• "But what do I do now? Do I keep writing the book? People are going to think: 'Edward passes away, and you know you're going to just write a book and cash in on that,' and the thought of that made me sick in my stomach." 
• 
  
• "And I will tell you that those 1st 2 albums, and the 1st 2 tours is when he was happiest, in my mind. Everything was new to him, you know, and everything was an adventure and an exploration." 
• 
  
• "Without trying to be glib or anything, I knew that early on the cigarettes were were going to kill him. They're going to kill him before the coke or the alcohol did. . . And you know, that's sadly what happened."
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• ". . . and Blackmore was amazing, and I know I kind of say those things about him, and I write about him in the book. That's just who Richie Blackmore was. That doesn't take away one ounce of who he was as a guitar, player and songwriter. My God! The sound of his guitar!"  
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• "I've seen a lot of journalists who have been running for years, and I saw how blase they got. I thought, you fuckers! Do you know how lucky you are sitting in that room?"
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• "And Edward would say over and over, 'Yeah, I've never played sober,' you know, and he was terrified to do it. Could he have done it? Yeah, absolutely."   
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• "Could these guys have created without the drugs. I certainly think so. Did they think so? They didn't. And so that becomes part of the process. I don't think it's necessarily self destructive. I don't think that they set out to damage themselves."  

Support Life And Music: Fighting back against music industry suicide and self-destruction. https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/  

Tonechaser book: https://www.tonechaserbook.com/

David and Burton both dispense wisdom and advice about the music life and the music business with smarts and humor. This may be one of our most quotable episodes yet.   

Watch out for those red flags!

And yes, with this group, you know there are some KISS tangents.

~Kevin J. Anderson. New York Times best-selling author, wonderful human, and close friend and collaborator of Neil Peart. 

~Cathy Rankin. Musician, journalist, actress, model, spokesperson, emcee, a damn good writer, and another wonderful human. 

Hosted by Jack Mangan, founder/Executive Director of Support Life And Music, journalist, podcaster, author, musician, owner of many nice hats. 

S.L.A.M. interstitial from comics legend, Brian Pulido, of ‪Coffin Comics‬ 

Topics covered:

Neil Peart 

The Bubba Bash celebration of Neil Peart 

Cathy Rankin's "Now You've Gone" tribute to Neil Peart:    • "Now You've Gone" | Cathy Rankin (OFFICIAL...  

Kevin J. Anderson's "Clockwork Angels" books, co-written with Neil Peart

Rush 

The grief journey

Loss

Coping mechanisms

Positive habits

Kevin J. Anderson's career 

Rebecca Moesta

Writing 

You sometimes drive me crazy, but I worry about you.

You can see the full interview at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dCe8GTFpI

• Dr. Sheila Dee 
• Jack Frost 
• Sarah Hyde 
• Jack Mangan 
• Evo Terra

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Lyrics Reference: Ariel Jean

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