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NAEYC, the National Association for the Education of Young Children, presents Small Talk: Big Ideas About Little Learners. CEO Michelle Kang and her colleagues dive into conversations that matter now -- to little learners and the big people who show up for them, bringing you stories of struggle, inspiration, and hope for our children’s future.
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NAEYC, the National Association for the Education of Young Children, presents Small Talk: Big Ideas About Little Learners. CEO Michelle Kang and her colleagues dive into conversations that matter now -- to little learners and the big people who show up for them, bringing you stories of struggle, inspiration, and hope for our children’s future.
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The move increased ECE salaries by $15,000 per year, stabilizing the workforce and opening more childcare slots for families. NAEYC’s Daniel Hains talks with <a href="https://www.dcaeyc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DCAEYC</a> Executive Director Berna Artis and <a href="https://www.mathematica.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mathematica</a> Senior Researcher Owen Schochet about what’s working, what’s threatened, and what DC’s experiment signals about the fate of similar pay equity efforts around the country.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seemed fair to pay early childhood educators the same as K-12 teachers with similar education and experience. Taxpayers and policymakers in Washington, DC, agreed, setting up the Pay Equity Fund. The move increased ECE salaries by $15,000 per year, stabilizing the workforce and opening more childcare slots for families. NAEYC’s Daniel Hains talks with <a href="https://www.dcaeyc.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DCAEYC</a> Executive Director Berna Artis and <a href="https://www.mathematica.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mathematica</a> Senior Researcher Owen Schochet about what’s working, what’s threatened, and what DC’s experiment signals about the fate of similar pay equity efforts around the country.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://naeyc.org/smalltalk]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1a04e01c-0204-4520-97a2-045758bab533</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2afa0f67-b9c3-44dc-89ae-fa9273ad327b/Web-Photo-Editor-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1a04e01c-0204-4520-97a2-045758bab533.mp3" length="86835840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Power of Play: Kathy Hirsh-Pasek</title><itunes:title>The Power of Play: Kathy Hirsh-Pasek</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>For decades, researchers in early childhood development have documented evidence that young children learn best while doing what they do best: playing. 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