<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/sound-thinking-with/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Sound Thinking with Graham Reid & Marty Duda]]></title><podcast:guid>e4f7f2ba-6b72-5362-8ba3-b08a2a5973ca</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 19:36:46 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Marty Duda]]></copyright><managingEditor>Marty Duda</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[SOUND THINKING: Where decades of music journalism meet unfiltered conversation.  ]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg</url><title>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid &amp; Marty Duda</title><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Marty Duda</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Marty Duda</itunes:author><description>SOUND THINKING: Where decades of music journalism meet unfiltered conversation.  </description><link>https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Arts"></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>February 27th: Pulp/Princess Chelsea/Gorillaz/Rob Zombie/Iron &amp; Wine &amp; More</title><itunes:title>February 27th: Pulp/Princess Chelsea/Gorillaz/Rob Zombie/Iron &amp; Wine &amp; More</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Graham Reid is on holiday this week but we have the esteemed music manic (and JB-HiFi buyer) Karl Lock filling in to review new releases with Marty by Princess Chelsea, Iron &amp; Wine, Em Beihold, Rob Zombie and Gorillaz. We talk to Em and Iron &amp; Wine, discuss Transvision Vamp and provide a NZ Gig Guide...along with Final Thoughts on Paul McCartney and The Molotovs. Something for everyone!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham Reid is on holiday this week but we have the esteemed music manic (and JB-HiFi buyer) Karl Lock filling in to review new releases with Marty by Princess Chelsea, Iron &amp; Wine, Em Beihold, Rob Zombie and Gorillaz. We talk to Em and Iron &amp; Wine, discuss Transvision Vamp and provide a NZ Gig Guide...along with Final Thoughts on Paul McCartney and The Molotovs. Something for everyone!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6f5ce789-a7fa-4671-a6dc-264278775264</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2026 08:30:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6f5ce789-a7fa-4671-a6dc-264278775264.mp3" length="36658581" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-221edcdf-833d-4910-aaaf-67f64e28e15c.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>February 20th: EPiC Elvis/Deacon Blue/Hemi Hemingway/Jill Scott/Tori Amos/Marlon Williams</title><itunes:title>February 20th: EPiC Elvis/Deacon Blue/Hemi Hemingway/Jill Scott/Tori Amos/Marlon Williams</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This weel Graham and Marty review the new Baz Luhrmann film: EPiC: Elvis Presely in Concert along with new releases by Hemi Hemingway, Lung, Jill Scott and a reissue from Tori Amos. 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Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a (mostly) all New Zealand episode of Sound Thinking as Graham and Marty review Lorde in concert plus new albums by Bic Runga, Six60, Earth Tongue and Alayna. Plus we get insights from Bic, Alayna and Six60. All that and a Puddle reissue, a NZ Gig Guide and Final Thoughts on...Bad Bunny. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. 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This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham and Marty are still buzzing after seeing Iggy Pop and Joan Jett. New albums reviewed are by: Robbie Williams/Guv/Ratboys/Beck and we go deep into the NZ Ambient Scene. Plus we review reissues by The Blasters/NRBQ/Yes and more along with a NZ Gig Guide and Final Thoughts on The Grammys and Low Cut Connie</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. 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And there's more!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham &amp; Marty review the debut album by Tyler Ballgame along with new releases by Yumi Zouma, Anna Van Riel, Tinsley Ellis, Muroki and more along with a reissue from Cream and a review of the latest book by The Mountain Goats' John Darnielle. And there's more!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. 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And then there is the Auckland Gig Guide and Final Thoughts on Six60. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham and Marty review new albums by Lucinda Williams, Sunset Tsunami, Sophie Gault and Sunday Mourners and a few more along with in-depth discussion on Stewart Copeland's stage show and Madison Beer. And then there is the Auckland Gig Guide and Final Thoughts on Six60. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. 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Listen in as Graham and Marty review new releases by Dry Cleaning, The Cribs, Blair Morgan, Melody Guy, Pullman and more. Plus an in-depth look at David Byrne's live show. Also film reviews of Anchor Me: The Don McGlashan Story and Louder Than You Think, a doco about Pavement drummer Gary Young. </p><p>And if that's not enough...we talk about Daniel Rachel's book: This Ain't Rock 'n' Roll: Pop Music, the Swastika and the Third Reich.</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound Thinking is back for 2026! Listen in as Graham and Marty review new releases by Dry Cleaning, The Cribs, Blair Morgan, Melody Guy, Pullman and more. Plus an in-depth look at David Byrne's live show. Also film reviews of Anchor Me: The Don McGlashan Story and Louder Than You Think, a doco about Pavement drummer Gary Young. </p><p>And if that's not enough...we talk about Daniel Rachel's book: This Ain't Rock 'n' Roll: Pop Music, the Swastika and the Third Reich.</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. 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Join Graham Reid and Marty Duda as they run through their top album picks of 2025. Hear highlights from albums by Mavis Staples, Marlon Williams, Margo Price, Nadia Reid, Van Morrison, Georgia Knight and more.</p><p>Plus get festive with their fave Christmas tunes from The Kinks to Lindon Puffin.</p><p>As always, an Auckland Gig Guide...and a tribute to Joe Ely</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's that time of year! Join Graham Reid and Marty Duda as they run through their top album picks of 2025. Hear highlights from albums by Mavis Staples, Marlon Williams, Margo Price, Nadia Reid, Van Morrison, Georgia Knight and more.</p><p>Plus get festive with their fave Christmas tunes from The Kinks to Lindon Puffin.</p><p>As always, an Auckland Gig Guide...and a tribute to Joe Ely</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking. <em>SOUND THINKING</em> is the podcast for people who care what they’re hearing.</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves. <em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart? <em>SOUND THINKING</em> brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cb7c3484-3a95-4e78-83a9-74f6a9605068</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 12:22:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cb7c3484-3a95-4e78-83a9-74f6a9605068.mp3" length="64568262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-bc37acb6-16da-4452-9dda-a416947ed852.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>December 12th: Juliana Hatfield/Pink Floyd/Fat White Family/Garbage/Nadia Reid/Blair Parkes/Throwing Muses and more</title><itunes:title>December 12th: Juliana Hatfield/Pink Floyd/Fat White Family/Garbage/Nadia Reid/Blair Parkes/Throwing Muses and more</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty discuss the great Beach Ball Controversy generated by Garbage's Shirly Manson. Other, more musical topics include reviews of new releases by Juliana Hatfield, Fat White Family, Blair Parkes and Bill Lake's Slow Bake...plus reissues from Pink Floyd and Steve Forbert and an Auckland gig guide. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty discuss the great Beach Ball Controversy generated by Garbage's Shirly Manson. Other, more musical topics include reviews of new releases by Juliana Hatfield, Fat White Family, Blair Parkes and Bill Lake's Slow Bake...plus reissues from Pink Floyd and Steve Forbert and an Auckland gig guide. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8de92864-5bdc-4a09-9381-f18fbe75779a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 12:22:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8de92864-5bdc-4a09-9381-f18fbe75779a.mp3" length="47793029" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-56ae67b3-4eaa-41ce-8f1b-0c0619dcb2e2.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>December 5th: Nick Cave/Melody&apos;s Echo Chamber/Displeasures/Snocaps/The Others Way/Zac Brown Band &amp; Much More</title><itunes:title>December 5th: Nick Cave/Melody&apos;s Echo Chamber/Displeasures/Snocaps/The Others Way/Zac Brown Band &amp; Much More</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this week's show Graham &amp; Marty review a slew of new albums including releases by Nick Cave &amp; The Bad Seeds, The Zac Brown Band, Frank Sinatra, The MC5, Melody's Echo Chamber, Displeasure, Snocaps and more. </p><p>Plus Marty reviews The Others Way Music Festival and Graham talk about The Human Instinct reissues. </p><p>And there's always an Auckland Gig Guide!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this week's show Graham &amp; Marty review a slew of new albums including releases by Nick Cave &amp; The Bad Seeds, The Zac Brown Band, Frank Sinatra, The MC5, Melody's Echo Chamber, Displeasure, Snocaps and more. </p><p>Plus Marty reviews The Others Way Music Festival and Graham talk about The Human Instinct reissues. </p><p>And there's always an Auckland Gig Guide!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f2fd4672-295b-4cbb-b27f-1a297b6503ea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 12:08:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f2fd4672-295b-4cbb-b27f-1a297b6503ea.mp3" length="61816343" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-5f6bb397-b123-4198-b515-e2c54a2326ae.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>November 28th: Tool/Neil Young/Split Enz/Troy Kingi/Toody Cole/Jimmy Cliff and more</title><itunes:title>November 28th: Tool/Neil Young/Split Enz/Troy Kingi/Toody Cole/Jimmy Cliff and more</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham &amp; Marty review new releases by Troy Kingi, The Saints, Tom Cunliffe, JJJJerome Ellis, Let's Planet and more along with reissues by Neil Young and Split Enz. They also review concerts (and audiences) including those of Tool, Toody Cole and The New Existentialists. Plus the regular Auckland gig guide.</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham &amp; Marty review new releases by Troy Kingi, The Saints, Tom Cunliffe, JJJJerome Ellis, Let's Planet and more along with reissues by Neil Young and Split Enz. They also review concerts (and audiences) including those of Tool, Toody Cole and The New Existentialists. Plus the regular Auckland gig guide.</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a48b1d67-f4ab-4447-ad1c-a1f836f7e097</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 13:33:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a48b1d67-f4ab-4447-ad1c-a1f836f7e097.mp3" length="56912260" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>59:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-ab5bf6c1-d548-4c12-9ef4-6e10d0af1c82.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>November 21st: The Beatles/Lenny Kravitz/Dropper/The Salt Collective/ The Besnard Lakes/AI Music and more</title><itunes:title>November 21st: The Beatles/Lenny Kravitz/Dropper/The Salt Collective/ The Besnard Lakes/AI Music and more</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty take a good look and AI-generated music with help from NZ-based AI artist Ed Ackman. New releases reviewed include those by The Besnard Lakes, The SAlt Collective, Dropper and The Otherwoman plus we pass judment on the new Beatles Anthology and Prince's Around The World In A Day. And there is a gig guide for those in Auckland. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty take a good look and AI-generated music with help from NZ-based AI artist Ed Ackman. New releases reviewed include those by The Besnard Lakes, The SAlt Collective, Dropper and The Otherwoman plus we pass judment on the new Beatles Anthology and Prince's Around The World In A Day. And there is a gig guide for those in Auckland. </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">635d06e4-b718-44ec-be23-d7195c19e54c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2025 14:14:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/635d06e4-b718-44ec-be23-d7195c19e54c.mp3" length="61707663" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:04:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-4c497f8c-29d2-4174-8595-ac28872a7b33.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>November 14th: Oasis Live/The Rolling Stones - Black &amp; Blue/Dick Move/Ny Oh/Cheap Trick/Evan Dando and much more...</title><itunes:title>November 14th: Oasis Live/The Rolling Stones - Black &amp; Blue/Dick Move/Ny Oh/Cheap Trick/Evan Dando and much more...</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty invite guest concert reviewer Karl Lock around to talk about the Oasis reunion show in Sydney. Auckland punks Dick Move encourage us to Dream, Believe, Achieve and we review new releases by Cheap Trick, Ny Oh, Colter Wall, AVVT/PTTN and The New Existentialists. All that plus reviews and insights into new books by Patti Smith and Evan Dando , the Rock &amp; Roll Hall Of Fame, Split Enz, Drive-By Truckers and an Auckland concert guide! </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Graham and Marty invite guest concert reviewer Karl Lock around to talk about the Oasis reunion show in Sydney. Auckland punks Dick Move encourage us to Dream, Believe, Achieve and we review new releases by Cheap Trick, Ny Oh, Colter Wall, AVVT/PTTN and The New Existentialists. All that plus reviews and insights into new books by Patti Smith and Evan Dando , the Rock &amp; Roll Hall Of Fame, Split Enz, Drive-By Truckers and an Auckland concert guide! </p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">35b9bd89-7475-44dd-b71f-af38d98e5d7d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 12:16:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/35b9bd89-7475-44dd-b71f-af38d98e5d7d.mp3" length="65197794" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:07:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-2b62c7b9-8094-463b-9696-3780541cbcee.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item><item><title>November 7th: Patti Smith/Theia/Marianne Faithfull/Paul Kelly &amp; More</title><itunes:title>November 7th: Patti Smith/Theia/Marianne Faithfull/Paul Kelly &amp; More</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Graham &amp; Marty celebrate the 50th anniversary of Patti Smith's groundbreaking debut album, Horses with guest Dianne Swann. Plus we review new films about Marianne Faithfull and Bruce Springsteen.  New releases include albums by Theia, Paul Kelly, Mavis Staples, Georgia Knight, Midlake, Beastwars, and Hatchie. And much more!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham &amp; Marty celebrate the 50th anniversary of Patti Smith's groundbreaking debut album, Horses with guest Dianne Swann. Plus we review new films about Marianne Faithfull and Bruce Springsteen.  New releases include albums by Theia, Paul Kelly, Mavis Staples, Georgia Knight, Midlake, Beastwars, and Hatchie. And much more!</p><p>Sound Thinking with Graham Reid and Marty Duda: In an age of playlists and hot takes, two of New Zealand’s sharpest music minds still believe in listening before speaking.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;is the podcast for people who&nbsp;care what they’re hearing.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Between them, they’ve interviewed everyone worth hearing. Now they’re turning the mics on themselves.&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>: where decades of music journalism meet an hour of unfiltered conversation.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Ever miss when music journalism had guts, humour, and heart?&nbsp;<em>SOUND THINKING</em>&nbsp;brings it back. This is where legends, laughter, and long-forgotten stories meet the soundtrack of now.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sound-thinking-with.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ed60bbc5-9d83-4cb5-9559-b2de79057025</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bfd17b27-1079-4fb6-ab43-7f71add48715/Sound-Thinking-Tile-red.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 10:45:00 +1300</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ed60bbc5-9d83-4cb5-9559-b2de79057025.mp3" length="80735447" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:24:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:chapters url="https://transcripts.captivate.fm/chapter-60179e08-f85d-48df-bc0b-157705c8d5cf.json" type="application/json+chapters"/></item></channel></rss>