<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/sparkoftrust/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Spark of Trust]]></title><podcast:guid>399b66db-115c-5c1e-8676-3d28e76050f0</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 10:00:31 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Keiron McCammon]]></copyright><managingEditor>Keiron McCammon</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Trust is not lost. It is awaiting a spark.

Spark of Trust is an interview show about the people rebuilding trust in our communities, in the institutions we depend on, and in the information we share. One long, honest conversation with someone doing the work: what they're building, what it's costing them, and one thing you can do this week.

Not a panel on how bad things are. The numbers are real, the failures get named, and nobody is selling a playbook. No ads, no sponsors.

Host Keiron McCammon sits with the people who chose the harder road on principle — founders, researchers, reformers, organizers, technologists — most of them invisible to each other. If that's your work, this is where you find out how much company you have.

Proof the work is happening. Language for what you've been feeling. Company for the road.

New episodes weekly. Most conversations unfold over two parts, with a companion essay at sparkoftrust.com.

Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/45e6af4d-ec81-4117-a904-d4df0ccebd87/CHANNEL-COVER.jpg</url><title>Spark of Trust</title><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/45e6af4d-ec81-4117-a904-d4df0ccebd87/CHANNEL-COVER.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Keiron McCammon</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Keiron McCammon</itunes:author><description>Trust is not lost. It is awaiting a spark.

Spark of Trust is an interview show about the people rebuilding trust in our communities, in the institutions we depend on, and in the information we share. One long, honest conversation with someone doing the work: what they&apos;re building, what it&apos;s costing them, and one thing you can do this week.

Not a panel on how bad things are. The numbers are real, the failures get named, and nobody is selling a playbook. No ads, no sponsors.

Host Keiron McCammon sits with the people who chose the harder road on principle — founders, researchers, reformers, organizers, technologists — most of them invisible to each other. If that&apos;s your work, this is where you find out how much company you have.

Proof the work is happening. Language for what you&apos;ve been feeling. Company for the road.

New episodes weekly. Most conversations unfold over two parts, with a companion essay at sparkoftrust.com.

Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.</description><link>https://sparkoftrust.com/</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Igniting the Trust Revolution]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Technology"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Science"><itunes:category text="Social Sciences"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>A Spark With Matt Abrams, Part I</title><itunes:title>A Spark With Matt Abrams, Part I</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the fall of 2024, in a Central Oregon county on the dividing line of the Greater Idaho movement, thirty strangers chosen by lottery spent two weekends deciding what their community should do about youth homelessness. Matt Abrams watched people who walked in afraid of one another produce 22 supermajority recommendations, and measured the trust between them six months later. Part I is how he got there: a lumber town childhood between loggers and environmentalists, a courtroom experiment in decency, and the case that civic assemblies are not efficient, "but holy hell are they effective."</p><p>Disclosure: Matt is a friend of Keiron's, and his $1 Billion for Trust organization and this show are fellow travelers. Keiron has sat in on their working calls; they often compare notes.</p><p>Reach Keiron directly: <a href="mailto:keiron@sparkoftrust.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keiron@sparkoftrust.com</a></p><p>Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.</p><p><strong>Episode Timestamps:</strong></p><p>00:00 Fear of not being heard opens the show</p><p>00:28 A Spark With Matt Abrams, Part I</p><p>01:00 Welcoming Matt Abrams, the venture capitalist turned trust builder</p><p>02:43 The fake 9/11 Quran emails that started Matt's hunt for trustworthy information, and the humility it took him decades to learn</p><p>08:06 Growing up in a divided Oregon logging town</p><p>10:20 The Decency Project, and how one courtroom experiment scaled into civic assemblies</p><p>19:32 What a civic assembly actually is</p><p>21:32 How Central Oregon used one to tackle youth homelessness</p><p>27:13 Why trust, not truth, is democracy's real foundation</p><p>31:10 Loving the rock: Sisyphus and the price of caring about trust</p><p>32:28 Is distrust ever healthy?</p><p>40:06 What most people get wrong about how divided we are</p><p>44:34 A segue into Part II</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the fall of 2024, in a Central Oregon county on the dividing line of the Greater Idaho movement, thirty strangers chosen by lottery spent two weekends deciding what their community should do about youth homelessness. Matt Abrams watched people who walked in afraid of one another produce 22 supermajority recommendations, and measured the trust between them six months later. Part I is how he got there: a lumber town childhood between loggers and environmentalists, a courtroom experiment in decency, and the case that civic assemblies are not efficient, "but holy hell are they effective."</p><p>Disclosure: Matt is a friend of Keiron's, and his $1 Billion for Trust organization and this show are fellow travelers. Keiron has sat in on their working calls; they often compare notes.</p><p>Reach Keiron directly: <a href="mailto:keiron@sparkoftrust.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keiron@sparkoftrust.com</a></p><p>Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.</p><p><strong>Episode Timestamps:</strong></p><p>00:00 Fear of not being heard opens the show</p><p>00:28 A Spark With Matt Abrams, Part I</p><p>01:00 Welcoming Matt Abrams, the venture capitalist turned trust builder</p><p>02:43 The fake 9/11 Quran emails that started Matt's hunt for trustworthy information, and the humility it took him decades to learn</p><p>08:06 Growing up in a divided Oregon logging town</p><p>10:20 The Decency Project, and how one courtroom experiment scaled into civic assemblies</p><p>19:32 What a civic assembly actually is</p><p>21:32 How Central Oregon used one to tackle youth homelessness</p><p>27:13 Why trust, not truth, is democracy's real foundation</p><p>31:10 Loving the rock: Sisyphus and the price of caring about trust</p><p>32:28 Is distrust ever healthy?</p><p>40:06 What most people get wrong about how divided we are</p><p>44:34 A segue into Part II</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b68b9b50-d069-4887-be41-45cacb1fc181</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ffbe5454-4b74-4588-bcd7-31834f74b5c1/Matt-Abrams-Part-1.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b68b9b50-d069-4887-be41-45cacb1fc181.mp3" length="65271058" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part II</title><itunes:title>A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part II</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Neya uses AI to rebuild neighborhood connection, at a moment when the prevailing story is that AI will finish off whatever human connection the feed left standing. Rob Chapman and Harry Hobson take that head-on: what they're building, why the business model charges for a connection made rather than attention held, and why they'd rather grow slowly than be a platform people aren't sure about.</p><p>Disclosure: Keiron is an investor in Neya.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps: </strong></p><p>00:00 - What makes Neya feel different</p><p>00:22 – Spark Of Trust - A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part II</p><p>00:54 - Welcome back to part two: what Neya is, and why the founders chose AI</p><p>04:00 - The AI super neighbor: hosting, moderating, and purposeful orchestration</p><p>09:31 - The founders' biggest risk, and a day in the life of Neya</p><p>13:41 - Building community at the pace of trust, and the latent demand to help</p><p>15:50 - Faint needs, conditional preferences, and the marketplace behind them</p><p>19:57 - Why local requests go unanswered today, and building a business model around trust instead of attention</p><p>27:57 - Where AI erodes trust, and rebuilding it through people and place</p><p>32:36 - What success looks like, legacy, and measuring impact without gaming the metric</p><p>40:12 - Early evidence, scaling partnerships, and the vision of a new institution</p><p>44:56 - One spark for listeners, and closing thoughts</p><p>Find your people nearby. Neya helps you find local groups, events and neighbours who share your interests, so you can feel more at home where you live.</p><p><a href="https://www.joinneya.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.joinneya.com/</a></p><p>The paired essay, "You Don't Build Trust by Telling Someone to Trust You", is at <a href="https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neya uses AI to rebuild neighborhood connection, at a moment when the prevailing story is that AI will finish off whatever human connection the feed left standing. Rob Chapman and Harry Hobson take that head-on: what they're building, why the business model charges for a connection made rather than attention held, and why they'd rather grow slowly than be a platform people aren't sure about.</p><p>Disclosure: Keiron is an investor in Neya.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps: </strong></p><p>00:00 - What makes Neya feel different</p><p>00:22 – Spark Of Trust - A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part II</p><p>00:54 - Welcome back to part two: what Neya is, and why the founders chose AI</p><p>04:00 - The AI super neighbor: hosting, moderating, and purposeful orchestration</p><p>09:31 - The founders' biggest risk, and a day in the life of Neya</p><p>13:41 - Building community at the pace of trust, and the latent demand to help</p><p>15:50 - Faint needs, conditional preferences, and the marketplace behind them</p><p>19:57 - Why local requests go unanswered today, and building a business model around trust instead of attention</p><p>27:57 - Where AI erodes trust, and rebuilding it through people and place</p><p>32:36 - What success looks like, legacy, and measuring impact without gaming the metric</p><p>40:12 - Early evidence, scaling partnerships, and the vision of a new institution</p><p>44:56 - One spark for listeners, and closing thoughts</p><p>Find your people nearby. Neya helps you find local groups, events and neighbours who share your interests, so you can feel more at home where you live.</p><p><a href="https://www.joinneya.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.joinneya.com/</a></p><p>The paired essay, "You Don't Build Trust by Telling Someone to Trust You", is at <a href="https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c0cf937c-d180-4061-84f7-b35beb507107</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2fc58b57-970e-48df-9d2c-0cb4c29428d1/Neya-Part-2.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c0cf937c-d180-4061-84f7-b35beb507107.mp3" length="67721135" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part I</title><itunes:title>A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part I</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Chapman and Harry Hobson have spent years watching trust retreat when people reach for it directly. Their conclusion, and the thing they built a company on: you cannot rebuild trust by trying to rebuild trust. You smuggle it in with something else. Make an ordinary, useful thing easy, and let trust accrue as the residue.</p><p>Disclosure: Keiron is an investor in Neya.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps:</strong></p><p>0:00 - Trust as the foundation of healthy communities</p><p>0:29 - Spark Of Trust - A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part I</p><p>1:01 - Welcome to the show: how Rob and Harry met, and the ten-year path to founding Neya</p><p>6:31 - Why trust became personal for each of them, and the "adequacy of trust" tipping point</p><p>13:02 - What's at stake when trust breaks down: war, riots, and the cost of low trust</p><p>19:59 - Inside Neighborly Lab: the loneliness hub and the Newham deaf community project</p><p>25:55 - From local wins to systemic change, and the biggest lesson on contact theory</p><p>31:40 - Why digital infrastructure matters as much as physical spaces</p><p>38:08 - Why trust can't be tackled head-on, and how it's rebuilt after being lost</p><p>44:38 - Jane Jacobs on small interactions, and closing thoughts</p><p>46:36 - Outro and preview of part two</p><p>The paired essay, "You Don't Build Trust by Telling Someone to Trust You", is at <a href="https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you</a></p><p>Find your people nearby. Neya helps you find local groups, events and neighbours who share your interests, so you can feel more at home where you live <a href="https://www.joinneya.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.joinneya.com/</a></p><p>Thanks for listening to and watching Spark of Trust. If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Chapman and Harry Hobson have spent years watching trust retreat when people reach for it directly. Their conclusion, and the thing they built a company on: you cannot rebuild trust by trying to rebuild trust. You smuggle it in with something else. Make an ordinary, useful thing easy, and let trust accrue as the residue.</p><p>Disclosure: Keiron is an investor in Neya.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps:</strong></p><p>0:00 - Trust as the foundation of healthy communities</p><p>0:29 - Spark Of Trust - A Spark With Rob Chapman &amp; Harry Hobson, Part I</p><p>1:01 - Welcome to the show: how Rob and Harry met, and the ten-year path to founding Neya</p><p>6:31 - Why trust became personal for each of them, and the "adequacy of trust" tipping point</p><p>13:02 - What's at stake when trust breaks down: war, riots, and the cost of low trust</p><p>19:59 - Inside Neighborly Lab: the loneliness hub and the Newham deaf community project</p><p>25:55 - From local wins to systemic change, and the biggest lesson on contact theory</p><p>31:40 - Why digital infrastructure matters as much as physical spaces</p><p>38:08 - Why trust can't be tackled head-on, and how it's rebuilt after being lost</p><p>44:38 - Jane Jacobs on small interactions, and closing thoughts</p><p>46:36 - Outro and preview of part two</p><p>The paired essay, "You Don't Build Trust by Telling Someone to Trust You", is at <a href="https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sparkoftrust.com/p/you-dont-build-trust-by-telling-someone-to-trust-you</a></p><p>Find your people nearby. Neya helps you find local groups, events and neighbours who share your interests, so you can feel more at home where you live <a href="https://www.joinneya.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.joinneya.com/</a></p><p>Thanks for listening to and watching Spark of Trust. If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cdeba3e7-0d5e-448a-acc2-638b8917db97</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/db77547d-a255-49ee-aff1-182e8284c755/Neya-Part-1.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cdeba3e7-0d5e-448a-acc2-638b8917db97.mp3" length="67959998" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Spark With Keiron McCammon</title><itunes:title>A Spark With Keiron McCammon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>The chair is turned around for episode one. Dwayne Kerrigan — entrepreneur, host of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, and a dear friend — interviews Keiron McCammon about why Spark of Trust exists at all. It starts with a wrong answer: Keiron went looking for what broke in 2022, blamed social media, and found something underneath it. Trust broke in three acts over six decades — first our communities, then our institutions, then our information environment — each stacking on the one before, so no single fix, founder, or organization repairs it. What follows is an hour and a half on that, and on why the honest response is not a solution but a signal.</p><p><strong>Time stamps </strong></p><p>00:00 – Trust is awaiting a spark</p><p>02:57 - Where this started: a 2022 realization</p><p>04:58 - Two wrong diagnoses before the real one</p><p>05:46 - The root cause: a breakdown of trust</p><p>06:08 - Three acts: community, institutions, information</p><p>07:59 - It didn't start with Facebook</p><p>08:21 - Why this is a wicked problem, not a hard one</p><p>09:08 - No one institution or person can fix this</p><p>09:26 - The show's premise: the bat signal and reigniting trust</p><p>10:17 - The builders nobody's funding</p><p>11:44 - The honest starting point</p><p>14:41 - Up next: Neya and rebuilding community</p><p>16:55 - Trust rebuilt through small useful acts</p><p>18:28 - Why the show is called Spark of Trust</p><p>19:22 - Trust is a stacking event</p><p>23:03 - Community decline since the '60s, institutions since the '70s</p><p>25:37 - Trust in institutions, now under 30%</p><p>29:48 - Maybe we're right not to trust them</p><p>31:17 - How institutions get captured</p><p>34:22 - What trustworthy education, healthcare, and news could look like</p><p>37:45 - Technology's long history of speeding up information</p><p>47:07 - You're not alone</p><p>52:45 - The return on collisions</p><p>54:10 - The Team of Teams model</p><p>57:35 - From information network to action network</p><p>1:05:45 - The stakes when trust breaks down</p><p>1:06:58 - Building companies that protect the mission</p><p>1:13:09 - The one spark: choose who you do business with</p><p>1:15:25 - The close: I'm one spark, looking for others</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chair is turned around for episode one. Dwayne Kerrigan — entrepreneur, host of The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast, and a dear friend — interviews Keiron McCammon about why Spark of Trust exists at all. It starts with a wrong answer: Keiron went looking for what broke in 2022, blamed social media, and found something underneath it. Trust broke in three acts over six decades — first our communities, then our institutions, then our information environment — each stacking on the one before, so no single fix, founder, or organization repairs it. What follows is an hour and a half on that, and on why the honest response is not a solution but a signal.</p><p><strong>Time stamps </strong></p><p>00:00 – Trust is awaiting a spark</p><p>02:57 - Where this started: a 2022 realization</p><p>04:58 - Two wrong diagnoses before the real one</p><p>05:46 - The root cause: a breakdown of trust</p><p>06:08 - Three acts: community, institutions, information</p><p>07:59 - It didn't start with Facebook</p><p>08:21 - Why this is a wicked problem, not a hard one</p><p>09:08 - No one institution or person can fix this</p><p>09:26 - The show's premise: the bat signal and reigniting trust</p><p>10:17 - The builders nobody's funding</p><p>11:44 - The honest starting point</p><p>14:41 - Up next: Neya and rebuilding community</p><p>16:55 - Trust rebuilt through small useful acts</p><p>18:28 - Why the show is called Spark of Trust</p><p>19:22 - Trust is a stacking event</p><p>23:03 - Community decline since the '60s, institutions since the '70s</p><p>25:37 - Trust in institutions, now under 30%</p><p>29:48 - Maybe we're right not to trust them</p><p>31:17 - How institutions get captured</p><p>34:22 - What trustworthy education, healthcare, and news could look like</p><p>37:45 - Technology's long history of speeding up information</p><p>47:07 - You're not alone</p><p>52:45 - The return on collisions</p><p>54:10 - The Team of Teams model</p><p>57:35 - From information network to action network</p><p>1:05:45 - The stakes when trust breaks down</p><p>1:06:58 - Building companies that protect the mission</p><p>1:13:09 - The one spark: choose who you do business with</p><p>1:15:25 - The close: I'm one spark, looking for others</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6843b9ec-be26-4fc6-b680-10b80bc79e24</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/60c95c55-4173-4aae-b899-c8b9fdc2081b/Keiron-McCammon.png"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6843b9ec-be26-4fc6-b680-10b80bc79e24.mp3" length="114947806" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:19:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Spark of Trust - Trailer</title><itunes:title>Spark of Trust - Trailer</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Trust is not lost. It is awaiting a spark.</p><p>Spark of Trust is an interview show about the people rebuilding trust in our communities, in the institutions we depend on, and in the information we share. One long, honest conversation with someone doing the work: what they're building, what it's costing them, and one thing you can do this week.</p><p>Not a panel on how bad things are. The numbers are real, the failures get named, and nobody is selling a playbook. No ads, no sponsors.</p><p>Host Keiron McCammon sits with the people who chose the harder road on principle — founders, researchers, reformers, organizers, technologists — most of them invisible to each other. If that's your work, this is where you find out how much company you have.</p><p>Proof the work is happening. Language for what you've been feeling. Company for the road.</p><p>New episodes weekly, 60 to 75 minutes, each one paired with an essay at sparkoftrust.com.</p><p>Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a><strong> </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust is not lost. It is awaiting a spark.</p><p>Spark of Trust is an interview show about the people rebuilding trust in our communities, in the institutions we depend on, and in the information we share. One long, honest conversation with someone doing the work: what they're building, what it's costing them, and one thing you can do this week.</p><p>Not a panel on how bad things are. The numbers are real, the failures get named, and nobody is selling a playbook. No ads, no sponsors.</p><p>Host Keiron McCammon sits with the people who chose the harder road on principle — founders, researchers, reformers, organizers, technologists — most of them invisible to each other. If that's your work, this is where you find out how much company you have.</p><p>Proof the work is happening. Language for what you've been feeling. Company for the road.</p><p>New episodes weekly, 60 to 75 minutes, each one paired with an essay at sparkoftrust.com.</p><p>Spark of Trust — Igniting the Trust Revolution.</p><p>If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it.</p><p><strong>Connect with Spark of Trust</strong></p><p><a href="https://sparkoftrust.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sparkoftrust.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust</a><strong> </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust</a></p><p>Our guests' views are their own, shared to encourage honest conversation. They don't necessarily reflect those of Spark of Trust or the host, and nothing here is legal, financial, medical, or professional advice.</p><p>Until next time, keep being the spark that ignites the Trust Revolution.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://sparkoftrust.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6ec84991-7e47-4686-a295-c5803742f817</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/51d4ba73-b9ec-4860-9ae9-3d4beeb50dd0/CHANNEL-COVER.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6ec84991-7e47-4686-a295-c5803742f817.mp3" length="2234872" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item></channel></rss>