<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-dips-of-doubt/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[The Dips of Doubt]]></title><podcast:guid>ac23b2bc-62b5-53cd-9cc7-78a02c749839</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 14:40:42 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock]]></copyright><managingEditor>Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dips of Doubt are normal and to often we think we are the only ones struggling. We hope that when you feel overwhelmed, inadequate, or just plain unsure our podcast will help.

 We know being a leader can be lonely, so our sessions will provide you with quick tips, strategies, and insights for your journey.  

We will be your silent partners as you keep putting one foot in front of the other on those difficult days, and we will remind you to celebrate your successes on the good days.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg</url><title>The Dips of Doubt</title><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock</itunes:author><description>Dips of Doubt are normal and to often we think we are the only ones struggling. We hope that when you feel overwhelmed, inadequate, or just plain unsure our podcast will help.

 We know being a leader can be lonely, so our sessions will provide you with quick tips, strategies, and insights for your journey.  

We will be your silent partners as you keep putting one foot in front of the other on those difficult days, and we will remind you to celebrate your successes on the good days.</description><link>https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Education"></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Education"><itunes:category text="Self-Improvement"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Education"><itunes:category text="How To"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Bad Bosses and Mirrors</title><itunes:title>Bad Bosses and Mirrors</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most leaders would never describe themselves as a bad boss, and yet even the best leaders can quietly slip into habits that frustrate, disengage, or undermine the very people they are meant to lead. </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa invite listeners to hold up a mirror and honestly examine whether they recognize themselves in some of the most common leadership traps, from the perfectionist who shuts down others' initiative, to the firefighter who runs on crisis energy, to the ghost boss who is present in title but absent in connection. They also explore the well-meaning but distracted leader who misses what is right in front of them, and the autopilot boss who holds a position without truly leading from it. Listeners will be challenged to move past the comfortable assumption that bad boss behavior only happens to other people, and to ask instead what the mirror might reveal about their own patterns. This honest and thought-provoking conversation is an invitation to lead with greater intentionality, presence, and self-awareness every single day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most leaders would never describe themselves as a bad boss, and yet even the best leaders can quietly slip into habits that frustrate, disengage, or undermine the very people they are meant to lead. </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa invite listeners to hold up a mirror and honestly examine whether they recognize themselves in some of the most common leadership traps, from the perfectionist who shuts down others' initiative, to the firefighter who runs on crisis energy, to the ghost boss who is present in title but absent in connection. They also explore the well-meaning but distracted leader who misses what is right in front of them, and the autopilot boss who holds a position without truly leading from it. Listeners will be challenged to move past the comfortable assumption that bad boss behavior only happens to other people, and to ask instead what the mirror might reveal about their own patterns. This honest and thought-provoking conversation is an invitation to lead with greater intentionality, presence, and self-awareness every single day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">36dac32c-7bd9-473c-9b56-35f5e4de2902</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/36dac32c-7bd9-473c-9b56-35f5e4de2902.mp3" length="4519313" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>203</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>203</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Silent Reflection Special</title><itunes:title>The Silent Reflection Special</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the middle of a busy leadership season, when was the last time you allowed yourself to simply be still? In this special episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of silence as a mental health strategy, and what it truly means to pause, reflect, and let the mind rest. They unpack the very real challenge leaders face when trying to sit in stillness, and why our brains naturally drift, wander, and resist the quiet even when we desperately need it. Listeners will walk away with a deeper appreciation for the role that silence and reflection play in emotional regulation, self awareness, and sustainable leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the middle of a busy leadership season, when was the last time you allowed yourself to simply be still? In this special episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of silence as a mental health strategy, and what it truly means to pause, reflect, and let the mind rest. They unpack the very real challenge leaders face when trying to sit in stillness, and why our brains naturally drift, wander, and resist the quiet even when we desperately need it. Listeners will walk away with a deeper appreciation for the role that silence and reflection play in emotional regulation, self awareness, and sustainable leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a4c72a4e-4a7f-4b03-b14f-806c052deb76</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a4c72a4e-4a7f-4b03-b14f-806c052deb76.mp3" length="3106193" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>03:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>202</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>202</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Keep Doors Open?</title><itunes:title>Do You Keep Doors Open?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>How you leave a position says just as much about you as how you lead in it. </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the season when many school leaders begin exploring new opportunities, and why leaving with grace, character, and intentionality matters more than most people realize in the moment. They discuss the unintended consequences of burning bridges on the way out, from bad-mouthing supervisors to checking out before the final day, and how those behaviors can quietly close doors that might have led back to great opportunities. Listeners will hear why even frustration, burnout, or feeling wronged is not a good enough reason to leave without dignity, and how the leaders who exit well are often the first ones called when new opportunities arise. This conversation challenges every leader contemplating a move to pause and ask: am I tying things up in a way that reflects my character, even if no one is watching?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How you leave a position says just as much about you as how you lead in it. </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the season when many school leaders begin exploring new opportunities, and why leaving with grace, character, and intentionality matters more than most people realize in the moment. They discuss the unintended consequences of burning bridges on the way out, from bad-mouthing supervisors to checking out before the final day, and how those behaviors can quietly close doors that might have led back to great opportunities. Listeners will hear why even frustration, burnout, or feeling wronged is not a good enough reason to leave without dignity, and how the leaders who exit well are often the first ones called when new opportunities arise. This conversation challenges every leader contemplating a move to pause and ask: am I tying things up in a way that reflects my character, even if no one is watching?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">197cd149-1d8e-45e0-b7f9-30c99d537998</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/197cd149-1d8e-45e0-b7f9-30c99d537998.mp3" length="3776548" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>201</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>201</podcast:episode></item><item><title>200th Episode Lessons</title><itunes:title>200th Episode Lessons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>200 episodes. Two years. Countless late nights, technical glitches, and moments of wondering if anyone was really listening. In this milestone celebration, Susan and Tessa step away from their usual leadership topics to reflect on the biggest lessons from their podcasting journey, complete with the dips of doubt that nearly made them quit and the timely messages from listeners that kept them going.​</p><p>They share the highlights that made every effort worthwhile, from Susan's deeply personal memory of interviewing her mom about leadership before losing her, to the unexpected gift of a friendship deepened through weekly conversations, shared laughter, and navigating life's hardest seasons together. Listeners will hear honest reflections on imposter syndrome, the joy of being of service to others in a new way, and why the work of intentional, self-aware leadership never truly runs out of things to explore.​</p><p>This episode is a heartfelt thank you to every listener who has tuned in, sent an encouraging text, or shared an episode along the way, and a celebration of what two people committed to helping leaders can accomplish simply by showing up week after week.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>200 episodes. Two years. Countless late nights, technical glitches, and moments of wondering if anyone was really listening. In this milestone celebration, Susan and Tessa step away from their usual leadership topics to reflect on the biggest lessons from their podcasting journey, complete with the dips of doubt that nearly made them quit and the timely messages from listeners that kept them going.​</p><p>They share the highlights that made every effort worthwhile, from Susan's deeply personal memory of interviewing her mom about leadership before losing her, to the unexpected gift of a friendship deepened through weekly conversations, shared laughter, and navigating life's hardest seasons together. Listeners will hear honest reflections on imposter syndrome, the joy of being of service to others in a new way, and why the work of intentional, self-aware leadership never truly runs out of things to explore.​</p><p>This episode is a heartfelt thank you to every listener who has tuned in, sent an encouraging text, or shared an episode along the way, and a celebration of what two people committed to helping leaders can accomplish simply by showing up week after week.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c65099bf-b509-4a61-9ba7-5813896a34c5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c65099bf-b509-4a61-9ba7-5813896a34c5.mp3" length="5342954" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>200</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>200</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Following Up on that Deadline</title><itunes:title>Following Up on that Deadline</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>How do you hold your team accountable without dropping the hammer too hard or pretending you never noticed the missed deadline?</em></p><p><em> </em>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack a practical four-step framework for building accountability into your leadership without micromanaging or losing your sanity. They walk through how to build checkpoints into the process from the start, protect those checkpoints from competing priorities, clarify the why behind the work to build genuine buy-in, and follow up with curiosity rather than criticism when things fall short. Listeners will hear how asking "what is getting in the way and how can I help you succeed?" shifts the dynamic from punitive to empowering and keeps people moving forward. This conversation challenges leaders to ask whether they have built enough structure to make accountability a natural part of their culture instead of an uncomfortable confrontation after the fact.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How do you hold your team accountable without dropping the hammer too hard or pretending you never noticed the missed deadline?</em></p><p><em> </em>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack a practical four-step framework for building accountability into your leadership without micromanaging or losing your sanity. They walk through how to build checkpoints into the process from the start, protect those checkpoints from competing priorities, clarify the why behind the work to build genuine buy-in, and follow up with curiosity rather than criticism when things fall short. Listeners will hear how asking "what is getting in the way and how can I help you succeed?" shifts the dynamic from punitive to empowering and keeps people moving forward. This conversation challenges leaders to ask whether they have built enough structure to make accountability a natural part of their culture instead of an uncomfortable confrontation after the fact.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ba6526ac-47d7-45ac-ba75-2fb10553870b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ba6526ac-47d7-45ac-ba75-2fb10553870b.mp3" length="4259918" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>199</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>199</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Stress</title><itunes:title>Stress</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What do you do when the typical self care advice just does not have enough left in you to try? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa get honest about stress, burnout, and the moments when even good intentions go out the window. Tessa shares a deeply personal story of reaching a breaking point and the low bandwidth brain hacks she discovered to regulate her nervous system without adding one more thing to her plate, including listening to bird sounds, placing a hand over the heart as a self delivered hug, solfeggio frequencies, and choosing to find something to laugh at every single day. Listeners will hear how these small, science-informed strategies can shift the body from survival mode back toward feeling regulated and capable. This conversation is an honest reminder that stress is a season, not a permanent state, and that tiny, intentional acts of self compassion can carry you through it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level. She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators. Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What do you do when the typical self care advice just does not have enough left in you to try? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa get honest about stress, burnout, and the moments when even good intentions go out the window. Tessa shares a deeply personal story of reaching a breaking point and the low bandwidth brain hacks she discovered to regulate her nervous system without adding one more thing to her plate, including listening to bird sounds, placing a hand over the heart as a self delivered hug, solfeggio frequencies, and choosing to find something to laugh at every single day. Listeners will hear how these small, science-informed strategies can shift the body from survival mode back toward feeling regulated and capable. This conversation is an honest reminder that stress is a season, not a permanent state, and that tiny, intentional acts of self compassion can carry you through it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level. She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators. Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">27cc9efb-fa33-4d29-9905-0a2af8e9f0cb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/27cc9efb-fa33-4d29-9905-0a2af8e9f0cb.mp3" length="5679934" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>198</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>198</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Breakfast</title><itunes:title>Breakfast</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>You cannot fill other people's cups if you are running on empty. In this episode, Susan and Tessa take a lighthearted but practical look at breakfast and how what leaders put into their bodies in the morning directly impacts their focus, energy, and cognitive performance throughout the day. They explore the various schools of thought around morning nutrition, from protein-forward starts to intermittent fasting, and why being intentional about that first meal matters more than getting it perfect. Listeners will hear how this simple habit connects to the bigger leadership principle of taking care of yourself so you can show up fully for the people you serve. This conversation is a gentle nudge to pause, notice how you feel throughout the day, and consider whether fueling your body better might just make you a sharper, more energized leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot fill other people's cups if you are running on empty. In this episode, Susan and Tessa take a lighthearted but practical look at breakfast and how what leaders put into their bodies in the morning directly impacts their focus, energy, and cognitive performance throughout the day. They explore the various schools of thought around morning nutrition, from protein-forward starts to intermittent fasting, and why being intentional about that first meal matters more than getting it perfect. Listeners will hear how this simple habit connects to the bigger leadership principle of taking care of yourself so you can show up fully for the people you serve. This conversation is a gentle nudge to pause, notice how you feel throughout the day, and consider whether fueling your body better might just make you a sharper, more energized leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1d91e8fc-0823-4df9-a0f8-9d932840f4f9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1d91e8fc-0823-4df9-a0f8-9d932840f4f9.mp3" length="3827747" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>197</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>197</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Mistakes</title><itunes:title>Mistakes</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your biggest leadership mistakes could become your best teachers instead of your worst nightmares?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the gut punch of getting it wrong, from bad calls to missed conversations, and how easily these moments can send leaders into a spiral of self doubt. They explore why we extend grace to students but speak harshly to ourselves, offering practical strategies for self compassion, healthier self talk, and taking a “24 hour pity party” without getting stuck. Listeners will hear how owning errors early, focusing on broken processes rather than broken people, and humbly modeling do overs can transform team culture. This conversation challenges leaders to notice whether their teams hide mistakes and, if so, to rethink how they respond so that missteps become shared learning rather than secret shame.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your biggest leadership mistakes could become your best teachers instead of your worst nightmares?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the gut punch of getting it wrong, from bad calls to missed conversations, and how easily these moments can send leaders into a spiral of self doubt. They explore why we extend grace to students but speak harshly to ourselves, offering practical strategies for self compassion, healthier self talk, and taking a “24 hour pity party” without getting stuck. Listeners will hear how owning errors early, focusing on broken processes rather than broken people, and humbly modeling do overs can transform team culture. This conversation challenges leaders to notice whether their teams hide mistakes and, if so, to rethink how they respond so that missteps become shared learning rather than secret shame.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8b07d773-4592-4196-a673-4a0e6dbb1934</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8b07d773-4592-4196-a673-4a0e6dbb1934.mp3" length="6114716" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>196</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>196</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Need a Printer?</title><itunes:title>Do You Need a Printer?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What makes some people go above and beyond to solve your problem, while others just say “nope”? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use a hilarious customer service story about a printer cord bundled with an unwanted printer to explore how leaders can build teams that deliver real service. They share four norms for creating a culture of initiative: defining what service looks like, embedding it in daily routines, connecting it to purpose beyond compliance, and rewarding what gets repeated. Listeners will hear how modeling appreciation, warm handoffs, and visible recognition turns “checkbox” employees into enthusiastic problem solvers. This conversation challenges leaders to ask: what do people actually experience when they interact with your team, and does it match the culture you say you want?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What makes some people go above and beyond to solve your problem, while others just say “nope”? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use a hilarious customer service story about a printer cord bundled with an unwanted printer to explore how leaders can build teams that deliver real service. They share four norms for creating a culture of initiative: defining what service looks like, embedding it in daily routines, connecting it to purpose beyond compliance, and rewarding what gets repeated. Listeners will hear how modeling appreciation, warm handoffs, and visible recognition turns “checkbox” employees into enthusiastic problem solvers. This conversation challenges leaders to ask: what do people actually experience when they interact with your team, and does it match the culture you say you want?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b66a68cd-1252-4719-a589-ebc5d6c10919</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b66a68cd-1252-4719-a589-ebc5d6c10919.mp3" length="5389975" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>195</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>195</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Team Huddles</title><itunes:title>Team Huddles</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if a quick daily “huddle” could transform how connected your team feels? </em></p><p>In this quirky episode, Susan and Tessa take a fresh look at team huddles, moving them from hokey to powerful as a simple way to check the pulse of your leadership team each morning. They describe how short, structured touch points focused on big picture needs, rumors to clear up, and one thing you are grateful for can boost clarity, collaboration, and morale. Listeners will hear why consistent huddles help reduce isolation, humanize colleagues, and create a contagious sense of “we are in this together,” whether in person or virtual. This conversation invites leaders to experiment with brief, daily huddles long enough to see if they shift energy, trust, and teamwork across the day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if a quick daily “huddle” could transform how connected your team feels? </em></p><p>In this quirky episode, Susan and Tessa take a fresh look at team huddles, moving them from hokey to powerful as a simple way to check the pulse of your leadership team each morning. They describe how short, structured touch points focused on big picture needs, rumors to clear up, and one thing you are grateful for can boost clarity, collaboration, and morale. Listeners will hear why consistent huddles help reduce isolation, humanize colleagues, and create a contagious sense of “we are in this together,” whether in person or virtual. This conversation invites leaders to experiment with brief, daily huddles long enough to see if they shift energy, trust, and teamwork across the day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">237ef1a2-380d-40d0-95f3-b0848518ca44</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/237ef1a2-380d-40d0-95f3-b0848518ca44.mp3" length="5176815" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>194</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>194</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Possible Turnover Solution</title><itunes:title>Possible Turnover Solution</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if one simple practice could help you keep more of the people you most want to stay?</em></p><p> In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore “stay interviews” as a proactive way to reduce turnover by truly listening to current staff rather than waiting for exit interviews. They discuss how intentional check ins, honest feedback about blind spots, and questions about growth, advancement, and satisfaction can build trust and surface issues before people start looking elsewhere. Listeners will hear practical ideas for framing these conversations so they feel safe, are not tied to evaluation, and lead to meaningful action where possible. This conversation invites leaders to go beyond casual check ins and create structured moments where employees feel seen, heard, and valued enough to imagine their future right where they are.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if one simple practice could help you keep more of the people you most want to stay?</em></p><p> In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore “stay interviews” as a proactive way to reduce turnover by truly listening to current staff rather than waiting for exit interviews. They discuss how intentional check ins, honest feedback about blind spots, and questions about growth, advancement, and satisfaction can build trust and surface issues before people start looking elsewhere. Listeners will hear practical ideas for framing these conversations so they feel safe, are not tied to evaluation, and lead to meaningful action where possible. This conversation invites leaders to go beyond casual check ins and create structured moments where employees feel seen, heard, and valued enough to imagine their future right where they are.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f63a53a6-27a8-435f-b62a-1d89f1117abe</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f63a53a6-27a8-435f-b62a-1d89f1117abe.mp3" length="4198164" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>193</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>193</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are We A Fit?</title><itunes:title>Are We A Fit?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>How do you know if a candidate is truly right for your team, not just right on paper?</em> </p><p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa explore the question “Are we a fit?” by breaking hiring decisions into three key buckets: knowledge, skill, and disposition. They discuss how to look beyond resumes and interview polish to understand what someone already knows, what they can actually do, and how their attitude, drive, and emotional intelligence will impact the team. Listeners will hear practical examples of choosing contagious disposition over perfect experience and why some gaps can be trained while others cannot. This conversation invites leaders to rethink their next round of hiring with a sharper lens on alignment, culture, and long term fit instead of just the fastest way to fill a vacancy.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How do you know if a candidate is truly right for your team, not just right on paper?</em> </p><p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa explore the question “Are we a fit?” by breaking hiring decisions into three key buckets: knowledge, skill, and disposition. They discuss how to look beyond resumes and interview polish to understand what someone already knows, what they can actually do, and how their attitude, drive, and emotional intelligence will impact the team. Listeners will hear practical examples of choosing contagious disposition over perfect experience and why some gaps can be trained while others cannot. This conversation invites leaders to rethink their next round of hiring with a sharper lens on alignment, culture, and long term fit instead of just the fastest way to fill a vacancy.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a353b4c1-39e3-4f9b-969f-793290c3eccc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a353b4c1-39e3-4f9b-969f-793290c3eccc.mp3" length="4172146" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>192</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>192</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Michelanglo Effect</title><itunes:title>Michelanglo Effect</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your leadership could help others chip away everything that is not their masterpiece? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share the Michelangelo Effect, where the sculptor saw David inside flawed marble and simply removed what was not needed. They apply this to leadership by helping team members reveal their true potential instead of adding fixes or expecting perfection. Listeners will hear how affirming strengths, providing the right environment, and embracing mind shifts turn “ruined” employees into shining contributors. This conversation challenges leaders to become patient guides who embrace their inner Michelangelo and support others in becoming their best selves.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your leadership could help others chip away everything that is not their masterpiece? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share the Michelangelo Effect, where the sculptor saw David inside flawed marble and simply removed what was not needed. They apply this to leadership by helping team members reveal their true potential instead of adding fixes or expecting perfection. Listeners will hear how affirming strengths, providing the right environment, and embracing mind shifts turn “ruined” employees into shining contributors. This conversation challenges leaders to become patient guides who embrace their inner Michelangelo and support others in becoming their best selves.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">da8bf21b-4e7e-48d7-81f0-26b62de3d73e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/da8bf21b-4e7e-48d7-81f0-26b62de3d73e.mp3" length="3741126" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>191</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>191</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Self-Awareness</title><itunes:title>Self-Awareness</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your body held the key to stronger leadership? </em></p><p>In this enlightening episode, Susan and Tessa explore self awareness through a clever framework from Paul Thornton that maps leadership qualities to body parts—from brain for strategic thinking to heart for sharing passion. They discuss using eyes for vision, ears for listening, spine for tough decisions, lungs for energizing teams, muscles for accountability, feet for action, and voice for clear communication. You will hear how tuning into these “body parts” creates intentional daily practice instead of autopilot leading. This conversation offers a memorable challenge to reflect on your thoughts, words, and actions this week through this embodied lens.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your body held the key to stronger leadership? </em></p><p>In this enlightening episode, Susan and Tessa explore self awareness through a clever framework from Paul Thornton that maps leadership qualities to body parts—from brain for strategic thinking to heart for sharing passion. They discuss using eyes for vision, ears for listening, spine for tough decisions, lungs for energizing teams, muscles for accountability, feet for action, and voice for clear communication. You will hear how tuning into these “body parts” creates intentional daily practice instead of autopilot leading. This conversation offers a memorable challenge to reflect on your thoughts, words, and actions this week through this embodied lens.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">67e53520-62cc-4166-a06d-b4fe07e0fe5b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/67e53520-62cc-4166-a06d-b4fe07e0fe5b.mp3" length="4037667" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>190</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>190</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Going Solo?</title><itunes:title>Are You Going Solo?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you unknowingly trying to lead like a one person show? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack why “you can’t do it alone, so don’t pretend you can” is more than a quote—it is a requirement for healthy, sustainable leadership. They explore how surrounding yourself with thought partners, inviting honest perspectives, and growing your own skills multiplies value for everyone you lead. Listeners will hear practical ideas for shifting from solo expert to collaborative leader, including how to listen without defensiveness and tap the wisdom of those with “boots on the ground.” This conversation is an invitation to make team capacity the new measure of success in your leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Are you unknowingly trying to lead like a one person show? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack why “you can’t do it alone, so don’t pretend you can” is more than a quote—it is a requirement for healthy, sustainable leadership. They explore how surrounding yourself with thought partners, inviting honest perspectives, and growing your own skills multiplies value for everyone you lead. Listeners will hear practical ideas for shifting from solo expert to collaborative leader, including how to listen without defensiveness and tap the wisdom of those with “boots on the ground.” This conversation is an invitation to make team capacity the new measure of success in your leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aa085845-d523-4213-83df-5dae9713d891</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/aa085845-d523-4213-83df-5dae9713d891.mp3" length="4344502" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>189</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>189</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Fixer or is it Control?</title><itunes:title>The Fixer or is it Control?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Do you step in to “fix” everything, or are you actually trying to stay in control? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the subtle line between being a helpful problem solver and a controlling leader who accidentally disempowers the team. They reflect on early leadership years spent trying to know and do it all, then explore how staying in your lane, sharing ownership, and letting others struggle a bit builds real capacity. Listeners will hear practical ways to pause before rescuing, ask coaching questions instead of giving answers, and notice when “I can do it better” thinking is getting in the way. This conversation invites leaders to trade exhausting fixer habits for empowering practices that grow confident, capable colleagues around them.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do you step in to “fix” everything, or are you actually trying to stay in control? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the subtle line between being a helpful problem solver and a controlling leader who accidentally disempowers the team. They reflect on early leadership years spent trying to know and do it all, then explore how staying in your lane, sharing ownership, and letting others struggle a bit builds real capacity. Listeners will hear practical ways to pause before rescuing, ask coaching questions instead of giving answers, and notice when “I can do it better” thinking is getting in the way. This conversation invites leaders to trade exhausting fixer habits for empowering practices that grow confident, capable colleagues around them.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2b429c94-1293-4036-91ad-d159abdae84b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2b429c94-1293-4036-91ad-d159abdae84b.mp3" length="5040456" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>188</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>188</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Adaptability</title><itunes:title>Adaptability</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if adaptability was your superpower instead of your stress response? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into why flexibility has become a non negotiable leadership skill in a world of constant pivots, shifting expectations, and rapid change. They explore how adaptable leaders move from firefighting to responding with calm, using images like the outfielder who stays ready for any fly ball that comes their way. Listeners will hear practical ideas for adjusting plans without losing purpose, staying grounded when conversations or days go sideways, and modeling flexibility so teams can do the same. This conversation invites you to reflect on how easily you “flex” when conditions change and how you can strengthen that muscle for yourself and those you lead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if adaptability was your superpower instead of your stress response? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into why flexibility has become a non negotiable leadership skill in a world of constant pivots, shifting expectations, and rapid change. They explore how adaptable leaders move from firefighting to responding with calm, using images like the outfielder who stays ready for any fly ball that comes their way. Listeners will hear practical ideas for adjusting plans without losing purpose, staying grounded when conversations or days go sideways, and modeling flexibility so teams can do the same. This conversation invites you to reflect on how easily you “flex” when conditions change and how you can strengthen that muscle for yourself and those you lead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f89b99d-481c-4e19-a034-61a4231c330e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4f89b99d-481c-4e19-a034-61a4231c330e.mp3" length="4929645" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>187</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>187</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Fragility in the Workplace</title><itunes:title>Fragility in the Workplace</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you noticed more team members crumbling under stress or pointing fingers instead of solving problems? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle fragility in the workplace, where leaders often shoulder blame while staff avoid responsibility. They explore how to build resilience by normalizing mistakes, encouraging ownership, and helping people reframe stories to see their role in solutions. Listeners will hear ideas like asking “What did you contribute?” or “What is your proposed solution?” to shift from complaint to action. This conversation empowers leaders to stop enabling fragility and instead grow stronger, self reflecting teams that roll with punches and support each other.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you noticed more team members crumbling under stress or pointing fingers instead of solving problems? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle fragility in the workplace, where leaders often shoulder blame while staff avoid responsibility. They explore how to build resilience by normalizing mistakes, encouraging ownership, and helping people reframe stories to see their role in solutions. Listeners will hear ideas like asking “What did you contribute?” or “What is your proposed solution?” to shift from complaint to action. This conversation empowers leaders to stop enabling fragility and instead grow stronger, self reflecting teams that roll with punches and support each other.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dbea15c7-e863-4062-a25a-a20436cefaf1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dbea15c7-e863-4062-a25a-a20436cefaf1.mp3" length="4591725" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>186</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>186</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Rerouting</title><itunes:title>Rerouting</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your New Year goals came with a built in “rerouting” button instead of a shame spiral? </em></p><p>In this thought provoking episode, Susan and Tessa use the GPS metaphor to reframe broken resolutions and missed intentions as normal detours, not failures. They talk about ditching all or nothing promises, choosing smaller time bound goals, and doing honest status checks to ask what is working, what is not, and why. Listeners will hear practical encouragement to give themselves grace, adjust their route, and keep the destination in sight even when the path is anything but straight. This conversation is a gentle reminder that you only truly get off course when you give up on yourself; otherwise, you are simply recalculating and continuing the journey.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your New Year goals came with a built in “rerouting” button instead of a shame spiral? </em></p><p>In this thought provoking episode, Susan and Tessa use the GPS metaphor to reframe broken resolutions and missed intentions as normal detours, not failures. They talk about ditching all or nothing promises, choosing smaller time bound goals, and doing honest status checks to ask what is working, what is not, and why. Listeners will hear practical encouragement to give themselves grace, adjust their route, and keep the destination in sight even when the path is anything but straight. This conversation is a gentle reminder that you only truly get off course when you give up on yourself; otherwise, you are simply recalculating and continuing the journey.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d94b9b2c-88f0-41b8-bf9a-36c6457371f1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d94b9b2c-88f0-41b8-bf9a-36c6457371f1.mp3" length="4977553" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>185</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>185</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Filter Your Noise or Amplify Your Signal?</title><itunes:title>Do You Filter Your Noise or Amplify Your Signal?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever felt buried under drama, emails, and constant demands, unsure what actually deserves your attention? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the difference between “noise” that drains leaders and “signals” that clarify what truly matters. They unpack how reactivity grows when you let every complaint, policy twist, or rumor set the agenda, and how intentional leaders instead slow down, get curious, and focus on core priorities and impact. Listeners will hear practical ideas for naming and reducing noise, setting boundaries, and amplifying the messages, goals, and actions that move people forward. This conversation invites you to identify one noisy distraction to shrink and one meaningful signal to turn up so your energy and leadership land where they count most.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever felt buried under drama, emails, and constant demands, unsure what actually deserves your attention? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the difference between “noise” that drains leaders and “signals” that clarify what truly matters. They unpack how reactivity grows when you let every complaint, policy twist, or rumor set the agenda, and how intentional leaders instead slow down, get curious, and focus on core priorities and impact. Listeners will hear practical ideas for naming and reducing noise, setting boundaries, and amplifying the messages, goals, and actions that move people forward. This conversation invites you to identify one noisy distraction to shrink and one meaningful signal to turn up so your energy and leadership land where they count most.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">166fd819-fc0a-4dbf-89c6-827d2d6f2d57</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/166fd819-fc0a-4dbf-89c6-827d2d6f2d57.mp3" length="5008273" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>184</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>184</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Power of Questions</title><itunes:title>The Power of Questions</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if the questions you ask could completely change the conversations you have with your team?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of well chosen questions to reveal real obstacles, surface unspoken concerns, and invite deeper reflection. Drawing on favorites like:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>“What is one obstacle slowing you down this week?”, “What are we not talking about that we should be?”</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>And “If you were watching this like a movie, what would you notice about your reactions?”, they show how different prompts lead to very different dialogue. </li></ol><br/><p>You will learn why slowing down, staying curious, and sharing the “question asking” power with others can build trust, insight, and ownership. This conversation encourages leaders to become more intentional “students of questions” and to try one new question that opens a door instead of ending a discussion.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if the questions you ask could completely change the conversations you have with your team?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of well chosen questions to reveal real obstacles, surface unspoken concerns, and invite deeper reflection. Drawing on favorites like:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>“What is one obstacle slowing you down this week?”, “What are we not talking about that we should be?”</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>And “If you were watching this like a movie, what would you notice about your reactions?”, they show how different prompts lead to very different dialogue. </li></ol><br/><p>You will learn why slowing down, staying curious, and sharing the “question asking” power with others can build trust, insight, and ownership. This conversation encourages leaders to become more intentional “students of questions” and to try one new question that opens a door instead of ending a discussion.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e8df99a7-11ad-4972-9a5e-9e447b3dc01a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e8df99a7-11ad-4972-9a5e-9e447b3dc01a.mp3" length="4155793" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>183</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>183</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Work Smarter, Not Harder!</title><itunes:title>Work Smarter, Not Harder!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Feeling endlessly busy but not truly productive?</em> </p><p>In this “Work Smarter, Not Harder” episode of the Dips of Doubt series, Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock walk leaders through a practical four step audit to rethink their daily work, separate legal and mandated tasks from self imposed routines, and identify what can finally come off the plate. Using insights from Dr. Cota’s leadership work, they explore how to align tasks with core goals, delegate more effectively, confront avoidance habits, and set clear personal expectations so time and energy are spent where they matter most.​</p><p><strong>Resources Mentioned:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Paredes, M. (N.D.). Academic Parent Teacher Teams (APTT). 21st CCLC Conference, Tucson, Arizona.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Cota, N., Ph.D. Associate Professor of Practice; Director, EDL M.Ed. &amp; Administrative Certification Programs, Educational Leadership and Policy Programs (EDLP) Unit, Department of Educational Policy Studies and Practice (EPSP).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Feeling endlessly busy but not truly productive?</em> </p><p>In this “Work Smarter, Not Harder” episode of the Dips of Doubt series, Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock walk leaders through a practical four step audit to rethink their daily work, separate legal and mandated tasks from self imposed routines, and identify what can finally come off the plate. Using insights from Dr. Cota’s leadership work, they explore how to align tasks with core goals, delegate more effectively, confront avoidance habits, and set clear personal expectations so time and energy are spent where they matter most.​</p><p><strong>Resources Mentioned:</strong></p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Paredes, M. (N.D.). Academic Parent Teacher Teams (APTT). 21st CCLC Conference, Tucson, Arizona.</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>Cota, N., Ph.D. Associate Professor of Practice; Director, EDL M.Ed. &amp; Administrative Certification Programs, Educational Leadership and Policy Programs (EDLP) Unit, Department of Educational Policy Studies and Practice (EPSP).</li></ol><br/><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d9ef1c54-0324-4b6d-b732-8f87d09cc3f5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d9ef1c54-0324-4b6d-b732-8f87d09cc3f5.mp3" length="6546363" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>182</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>182</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Would Your Employee Respond?</title><itunes:title>How Would Your Employee Respond?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What would your team say it feels like to be led by you? </em></p><p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa invite leaders to step into their employees’ shoes and honestly consider how their presence, stress, clarity, and care are experienced day to day. Inspired by a Daily Dad article and classroom memories, they explore questions about fairness, transparency, gratitude, and whether leaders truly grow others or just manage tasks. Listeners will hear a thoughtful framework for strengthening self-awareness, from defining who you expect yourself to be, to noticing when you are in or out of alignment with that picture. This conversation offers gentle accountability and encouragement to “hold up the mirror,” so you can keep becoming the kind of leader your employees would gladly choose again.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What would your team say it feels like to be led by you? </em></p><p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa invite leaders to step into their employees’ shoes and honestly consider how their presence, stress, clarity, and care are experienced day to day. Inspired by a Daily Dad article and classroom memories, they explore questions about fairness, transparency, gratitude, and whether leaders truly grow others or just manage tasks. Listeners will hear a thoughtful framework for strengthening self-awareness, from defining who you expect yourself to be, to noticing when you are in or out of alignment with that picture. This conversation offers gentle accountability and encouragement to “hold up the mirror,” so you can keep becoming the kind of leader your employees would gladly choose again.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">04cfc408-ebe2-47db-9ec9-38851207ed41</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 07:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/04cfc408-ebe2-47db-9ec9-38851207ed41.mp3" length="5224410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>181</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>181</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Gratitude in the New Year</title><itunes:title>Gratitude in the New Year</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever wondered how far a simple “I see you” can carry a tired team member? </em></p><p>In this New Year episode, Susan and Tessa revisit the power of everyday recognition and explain why gratitude cannot be confined to a single month or appreciation day. They connect appreciation to “happy chemicals” in the brain, stronger motivation, and a deeper sense of belonging, then share practical ways leaders can notice and name effort in real time. Listeners will hear ideas like quick personal emails, handwritten notes, and in the moment acknowledgments that help people feel seen rather than overlooked. This conversation invites leaders to make 2026 a year where recognition is woven into the culture, boosting teamwork, retention, and the quiet confidence that each person’s work truly matters.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever wondered how far a simple “I see you” can carry a tired team member? </em></p><p>In this New Year episode, Susan and Tessa revisit the power of everyday recognition and explain why gratitude cannot be confined to a single month or appreciation day. They connect appreciation to “happy chemicals” in the brain, stronger motivation, and a deeper sense of belonging, then share practical ways leaders can notice and name effort in real time. Listeners will hear ideas like quick personal emails, handwritten notes, and in the moment acknowledgments that help people feel seen rather than overlooked. This conversation invites leaders to make 2026 a year where recognition is woven into the culture, boosting teamwork, retention, and the quiet confidence that each person’s work truly matters.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">32239ef0-cd14-43b1-afe8-06221b174419</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/32239ef0-cd14-43b1-afe8-06221b174419.mp3" length="4756296" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>180</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>180</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Don&apos;t Skip Ownership</title><itunes:title>Don&apos;t Skip Ownership</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever walked out of a meeting and realized no one is actually sure who is doing what next? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa shine a light on the simple but often skipped step that turns good conversations into real progress: clear ownership. They explore how unassigned tasks lead to duplicated efforts, missed deadlines, and frustrated teams, and offer practical ways to build accountability into every meeting. Listeners will hear ideas for using tools like scribes or AI generated notes, naming specific people and timelines, and pausing before the meeting ends to confirm agreements out loud. This conversation is a helpful reset for leaders who want to respect people’s time, increase follow through, and ensure that no one walks away wondering, “Was that mine?”</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever walked out of a meeting and realized no one is actually sure who is doing what next? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa shine a light on the simple but often skipped step that turns good conversations into real progress: clear ownership. They explore how unassigned tasks lead to duplicated efforts, missed deadlines, and frustrated teams, and offer practical ways to build accountability into every meeting. Listeners will hear ideas for using tools like scribes or AI generated notes, naming specific people and timelines, and pausing before the meeting ends to confirm agreements out loud. This conversation is a helpful reset for leaders who want to respect people’s time, increase follow through, and ensure that no one walks away wondering, “Was that mine?”</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">adcf0cf6-c518-4407-8d9f-3222bee4b98d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/adcf0cf6-c518-4407-8d9f-3222bee4b98d.mp3" length="3253576" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>03:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>179</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>179</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Flashlights</title><itunes:title>Flashlights</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever noticed how some people shine brightly at work while others seem to flicker or fade? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use the simple image of a flashlight to explore what it really looks like to help team members keep their “light” on and strong. They share stories about matching roles to strengths, honoring different learning styles, and noticing when someone’s energy is low instead of assuming they do not care. Listeners will hear practical ideas for offering the right “battery” at the right time, whether that is attention, compassion, clearer direction, or growth opportunities. This conversation invites leaders to pay closer attention to the people around them so they can celebrate bright beams, gently support dim moments, and help every person shine in their own way.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever noticed how some people shine brightly at work while others seem to flicker or fade? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use the simple image of a flashlight to explore what it really looks like to help team members keep their “light” on and strong. They share stories about matching roles to strengths, honoring different learning styles, and noticing when someone’s energy is low instead of assuming they do not care. Listeners will hear practical ideas for offering the right “battery” at the right time, whether that is attention, compassion, clearer direction, or growth opportunities. This conversation invites leaders to pay closer attention to the people around them so they can celebrate bright beams, gently support dim moments, and help every person shine in their own way.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9f804fa1-9dcd-4a91-89ba-cecbe9e533eb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9f804fa1-9dcd-4a91-89ba-cecbe9e533eb.mp3" length="4342360" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>178</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>178</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Change is Messy</title><itunes:title>Change is Messy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Have you ever known something needed to change but felt stuck in the chaos between awareness and action?</em></strong></p><p>To kick off the new year, Susan and Tessa unpack why change so often feels messy and disruptive, even when it is exactly what is needed. They explore the difference between noticing a problem and actually building a plan, including how to clarify the “why,” create realistic steps, and check progress along the way. Listeners will hear practical ideas for getting buy in, supporting people through the discomfort of transition, and using self awareness to stay grounded when things do not go perfectly. This conversation is an encouraging reminder that change does not have to be tidy to be transformational, as long as you move beyond insight and into intentional action.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level. She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators. Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Have you ever known something needed to change but felt stuck in the chaos between awareness and action?</em></strong></p><p>To kick off the new year, Susan and Tessa unpack why change so often feels messy and disruptive, even when it is exactly what is needed. They explore the difference between noticing a problem and actually building a plan, including how to clarify the “why,” create realistic steps, and check progress along the way. Listeners will hear practical ideas for getting buy in, supporting people through the discomfort of transition, and using self awareness to stay grounded when things do not go perfectly. This conversation is an encouraging reminder that change does not have to be tidy to be transformational, as long as you move beyond insight and into intentional action.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level. She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators. Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9d6e4529-7e75-442f-8b55-46c07d5403d9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9d6e4529-7e75-442f-8b55-46c07d5403d9.mp3" length="4322559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>177</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>177</podcast:episode></item><item><title>I am Disappointed in your Leadership!</title><itunes:title>I am Disappointed in your Leadership!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when the words “I am disappointed in your leadership” are aimed directly at you? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa walk through a raw and honest story about painful feedback and how it became a turning point instead of a dead end. They introduce a simple “feedback filter” that helps leaders pause instead of defend, get curious, and sort what they hear into what fits for growth and what belongs to someone else’s incomplete picture. Listeners will learn how to ask for specific examples, decide what to act on, and still be kind to themselves in the process. This conversation offers timely encouragement to step into a new year seeing feedback not as the enemy, but as a powerful tool for becoming the leader you most want to be.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when the words “I am disappointed in your leadership” are aimed directly at you? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa walk through a raw and honest story about painful feedback and how it became a turning point instead of a dead end. They introduce a simple “feedback filter” that helps leaders pause instead of defend, get curious, and sort what they hear into what fits for growth and what belongs to someone else’s incomplete picture. Listeners will learn how to ask for specific examples, decide what to act on, and still be kind to themselves in the process. This conversation offers timely encouragement to step into a new year seeing feedback not as the enemy, but as a powerful tool for becoming the leader you most want to be.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ed8a68d1-84fa-457e-9d2d-ae2b6d300607</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ed8a68d1-84fa-457e-9d2d-ae2b6d300607.mp3" length="6410944" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>176</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>176</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Build Understanding?</title><itunes:title>Do You Build Understanding?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever shared a “clear” idea only to realize no one else was seeing what you saw in your head? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really takes to build understanding, not just deliver information. They talk about how leaders often carry fully baked ideas around for days, then share them in a few quick sentences and expect everyone to catch up instantly. Listeners will learn practical ways to slow down, make the invisible visible, check for shared meaning, and invite questions and clarifying check ins. With a focus on over-communicating with kindness and remembering there is always a human doing their best on the other side, this conversation offers simple shifts that can transform confusion into clarity and frustration into trust.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever shared a “clear” idea only to realize no one else was seeing what you saw in your head? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really takes to build understanding, not just deliver information. They talk about how leaders often carry fully baked ideas around for days, then share them in a few quick sentences and expect everyone to catch up instantly. Listeners will learn practical ways to slow down, make the invisible visible, check for shared meaning, and invite questions and clarifying check ins. With a focus on over-communicating with kindness and remembering there is always a human doing their best on the other side, this conversation offers simple shifts that can transform confusion into clarity and frustration into trust.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">277d9a99-d3ae-4b45-8a19-dc072b937176</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/277d9a99-d3ae-4b45-8a19-dc072b937176.mp3" length="5830086" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>175</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>175</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Pass the Gravy</title><itunes:title>Pass the Gravy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if the spiciest thing at the holiday table is not the food but the conversation? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use the phrase “pass the gravy” as a playful doorway into handling uncomfortable topics that bubble up at family gatherings, staff parties, and social events. They share practical phrases for setting gentle boundaries, ideas for regulating before you respond, and ways to stay curious instead of combative when opinions clash. Listeners will learn how to match their energy with their intentions, protect key relationships, and still walk away feeling connected even when they disagree. This conversation invites you to choose presence over performance and curiosity over control so you can enjoy the people around you without getting lost in the tension.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if the spiciest thing at the holiday table is not the food but the conversation? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use the phrase “pass the gravy” as a playful doorway into handling uncomfortable topics that bubble up at family gatherings, staff parties, and social events. They share practical phrases for setting gentle boundaries, ideas for regulating before you respond, and ways to stay curious instead of combative when opinions clash. Listeners will learn how to match their energy with their intentions, protect key relationships, and still walk away feeling connected even when they disagree. This conversation invites you to choose presence over performance and curiosity over control so you can enjoy the people around you without getting lost in the tension.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f8c3ed31-6c4b-4643-90e1-cc7611b0b201</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f8c3ed31-6c4b-4643-90e1-cc7611b0b201.mp3" length="4836701" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>174</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>174</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Sometimes the Cockroach Wins</title><itunes:title>Sometimes the Cockroach Wins</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever been so tired you decided the bug gets to win today? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share a hilarious “bathroom cockroach” story that becomes a surprising metaphor for leadership, limits, and self compassion. They explore those days when you simply do not have it in you to fix one more thing, and why it is sometimes wise to walk away, regroup, and save your energy for what really matters. Listeners will hear practical encouragement to choose their battles, hit the reset button, and let go of perfection, especially during busy seasons and family gatherings. This conversation is a gentle reminder that being human does not disqualify your leadership and that offering grace to yourself may be the bravest move you make all day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever been so tired you decided the bug gets to win today? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share a hilarious “bathroom cockroach” story that becomes a surprising metaphor for leadership, limits, and self compassion. They explore those days when you simply do not have it in you to fix one more thing, and why it is sometimes wise to walk away, regroup, and save your energy for what really matters. Listeners will hear practical encouragement to choose their battles, hit the reset button, and let go of perfection, especially during busy seasons and family gatherings. This conversation is a gentle reminder that being human does not disqualify your leadership and that offering grace to yourself may be the bravest move you make all day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor. Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to enhance interpersonal interactions. Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach. Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents. The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.  She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office, Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles. She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive. Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for K-12 educators.  Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal. She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow. Susan now serves as the Director of LEADNow! In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12, Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ba61369b-33b7-4472-9d71-08afcfa7ee66</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ba61369b-33b7-4472-9d71-08afcfa7ee66.mp3" length="4644387" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>173</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>173</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Growing Future Leaders?</title><itunes:title>Are You Growing Future Leaders?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Who is quietly watching you lead and wondering if they could ever do what you do? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to grow future leaders instead of just hoping they appear when a role opens up. They reflect on their own journeys from insecure, “do it all myself” leaders to mentors who share decisions, power, and opportunities so others can stretch and shine. Listeners will gain practical ideas for spotting untapped talent, inviting people into small leadership moments, and being more explicit about how and why key decisions are made. This conversation invites you to move beyond modeling alone and become the kind of leader who plants seeds, waters potential, and feels proud when someone is finally ready to take your place.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who is quietly watching you lead and wondering if they could ever do what you do? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to grow future leaders instead of just hoping they appear when a role opens up. They reflect on their own journeys from insecure, “do it all myself” leaders to mentors who share decisions, power, and opportunities so others can stretch and shine. Listeners will gain practical ideas for spotting untapped talent, inviting people into small leadership moments, and being more explicit about how and why key decisions are made. This conversation invites you to move beyond modeling alone and become the kind of leader who plants seeds, waters potential, and feels proud when someone is finally ready to take your place.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e584d995-fb5e-4e63-a4a5-8a173878ff3e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e584d995-fb5e-4e63-a4a5-8a173878ff3e.mp3" length="6471496" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>172</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>172</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Confronting Rumors</title><itunes:title>Confronting Rumors</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What if the story everyone is repeating is not even true, but still shaping your culture? </p><p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa wade into the messy world of rumors and workplace gossip, where half told truths and anxious assumptions can quietly erode trust. Through honest reflection and real examples, they show how easily leaders and teams get swept into dramatic narratives that confirm old biases instead of checking the facts. Listeners will hear practical language for pausing the swirl, inviting curiosity, and guiding people back to private, direct conversations that protect relationships. This conversation offers hopeful, concrete ways to weaken the power of rumors by strengthening clarity, courage, and communication across your organization.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the story everyone is repeating is not even true, but still shaping your culture? </p><p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa wade into the messy world of rumors and workplace gossip, where half told truths and anxious assumptions can quietly erode trust. Through honest reflection and real examples, they show how easily leaders and teams get swept into dramatic narratives that confirm old biases instead of checking the facts. Listeners will hear practical language for pausing the swirl, inviting curiosity, and guiding people back to private, direct conversations that protect relationships. This conversation offers hopeful, concrete ways to weaken the power of rumors by strengthening clarity, courage, and communication across your organization.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">12b260d4-c885-4403-81bb-0aa6ca75f692</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/12b260d4-c885-4403-81bb-0aa6ca75f692.mp3" length="5605642" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>171</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>171</podcast:episode></item><item><title>After Action Reviews</title><itunes:title>After Action Reviews</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your most valuable leadership tool is simply the questions you ask after something happens?</em></p><p> In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into After Action Reviews as a practical way to turn both wins and missteps into real learning and momentum. They walk through how a few focused questions about what was intended, what actually occurred, and why it unfolded that way can shift a team from blame to curiosity and growth. Listeners will hear a powerful story of a leader who gathered their team after a mistake and watched honest reflection replace defensiveness, leading everyone to own their next steps. This conversation invites you to build a culture where pausing, debriefing, and capturing lessons learned becomes a normal part of the work, not just something you do when things go wrong.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if your most valuable leadership tool is simply the questions you ask after something happens?</em></p><p> In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into After Action Reviews as a practical way to turn both wins and missteps into real learning and momentum. They walk through how a few focused questions about what was intended, what actually occurred, and why it unfolded that way can shift a team from blame to curiosity and growth. Listeners will hear a powerful story of a leader who gathered their team after a mistake and watched honest reflection replace defensiveness, leading everyone to own their next steps. This conversation invites you to build a culture where pausing, debriefing, and capturing lessons learned becomes a normal part of the work, not just something you do when things go wrong.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">18c961b7-e945-4e4d-b5c0-a159fb169951</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/18c961b7-e945-4e4d-b5c0-a159fb169951.mp3" length="4657187" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>170</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>170</podcast:episode></item><item><title>I had No Idea!</title><itunes:title>I had No Idea!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever sent an email that felt helpful to you but landed as snarky to someone else? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the hidden tone behind everyday phrases like “I am just circling back” and “Not sure you saw my last message,” and how those words can sound passive aggressive depending on the relationship and timing. They explore why intention, context, and connection matter just as much as content, and how a quick pause before you hit send can protect trust. Listeners will hear practical ideas for softening written communication, deciding when it is time to pick up the phone instead of emailing again, and choosing language that is both clear and kind. This conversation invites leaders to examine their go to phrases, check their motives, and make sure every message builds relationships rather than accidentally chipping away at them.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever sent an email that felt helpful to you but landed as snarky to someone else? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the hidden tone behind everyday phrases like “I am just circling back” and “Not sure you saw my last message,” and how those words can sound passive aggressive depending on the relationship and timing. They explore why intention, context, and connection matter just as much as content, and how a quick pause before you hit send can protect trust. Listeners will hear practical ideas for softening written communication, deciding when it is time to pick up the phone instead of emailing again, and choosing language that is both clear and kind. This conversation invites leaders to examine their go to phrases, check their motives, and make sure every message builds relationships rather than accidentally chipping away at them.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5e0ebad2-799d-49b7-a235-323285fa145b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5e0ebad2-799d-49b7-a235-323285fa145b.mp3" length="5155500" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>169</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>169</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Look at My Face</title><itunes:title>Look at My Face</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What happens to a hard conversation when your face says one thing and your words say another? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how a single expression can either calm a situation or send someone into emotional quicksand, especially when emotions are already running high. Through a powerful story about a scared child and a high stakes leadership meeting, they show how a grounded, soft face can help others regulate, feel safe, and stay open to feedback. You will learn why “watching your face” matters as much as choosing the right words, and how small shifts in presence, breathing, and body language can protect trust in tense moments. This conversation is a practical reminder that your face is always communicating, and that choosing calm and compassion can change the entire tone of a difficult interaction.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What happens to a hard conversation when your face says one thing and your words say another? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how a single expression can either calm a situation or send someone into emotional quicksand, especially when emotions are already running high. Through a powerful story about a scared child and a high stakes leadership meeting, they show how a grounded, soft face can help others regulate, feel safe, and stay open to feedback. You will learn why “watching your face” matters as much as choosing the right words, and how small shifts in presence, breathing, and body language can protect trust in tense moments. This conversation is a practical reminder that your face is always communicating, and that choosing calm and compassion can change the entire tone of a difficult interaction.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">75ce2ade-a346-45f5-839e-009123c89d75</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/75ce2ade-a346-45f5-839e-009123c89d75.mp3" length="4303490" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>168</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>168</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do you know the F.O.R.D. method of conversation?</title><itunes:title>Do you know the F.O.R.D. method of conversation?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa introduce the F.O.R.D. method as a simple but powerful framework to turn small talk into real connection. Using stories from their own experiences as reluctant minglers and thoughtful leaders, they show how asking about Family, Occupation, Recreation, and Dreams can ease awkward moments and open meaningful conversations. Listeners will hear practical ideas for staying curious, remembering details that matter, and gently stepping out of their comfort zone in social settings and workplace events. This conversation is a helpful guide for leaders who want to be more intentional in “working the room,” building trust, and making everyone feel seen and valued.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa introduce the F.O.R.D. method as a simple but powerful framework to turn small talk into real connection. Using stories from their own experiences as reluctant minglers and thoughtful leaders, they show how asking about Family, Occupation, Recreation, and Dreams can ease awkward moments and open meaningful conversations. Listeners will hear practical ideas for staying curious, remembering details that matter, and gently stepping out of their comfort zone in social settings and workplace events. This conversation is a helpful guide for leaders who want to be more intentional in “working the room,” building trust, and making everyone feel seen and valued.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">562aa29a-622e-43e5-8b77-ad5f51dc281f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/562aa29a-622e-43e5-8b77-ad5f51dc281f.mp3" length="6944156" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>167</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>167</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How&apos;s Your Gas Tank?</title><itunes:title>How&apos;s Your Gas Tank?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>Is your tank of energy feeling low as a leader?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use a simple trip to the gas station to spark a deeper conversation about energy, time, and how leaders care for themselves. Through a memorable travel story and an honest look at running on fumes, they invite you to notice your own “gas gauge” and what drains or refills it. You will hear practical ideas for quick refuels, like small moments of laughter, short walks, or tiny habits that take just a few minutes but make a big difference. This conversation is a gentle reminder that you lead better when your tank is not empty and that taking care of yourself is one of the most powerful ways to care for others.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Is your tank of energy feeling low as a leader?</em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa use a simple trip to the gas station to spark a deeper conversation about energy, time, and how leaders care for themselves. Through a memorable travel story and an honest look at running on fumes, they invite you to notice your own “gas gauge” and what drains or refills it. You will hear practical ideas for quick refuels, like small moments of laughter, short walks, or tiny habits that take just a few minutes but make a big difference. This conversation is a gentle reminder that you lead better when your tank is not empty and that taking care of yourself is one of the most powerful ways to care for others.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e8a3aa13-adff-4129-a2d7-9d284e51b80f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e8a3aa13-adff-4129-a2d7-9d284e51b80f.mp3" length="4341420" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>166</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>166</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Decision Making or Decision Fatigue</title><itunes:title>Decision Making or Decision Fatigue</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>What if you could untangle stressful choices and quiet your mind with just a few minutes of pen on paper each morning? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the world of decision fatigue and unlock a simple tool for finding clarity. Inspired by Julia Cameron’s transformative book The Artist’s Way, and Amanda Reill’s article A Simple Way to Make Better Decisions, they introduce the morning pages practice. You will hear how three pages of free writing, done first thing in the day, can sweep away distractions and make space for wiser decisions in both life and leadership. The hosts share stories, helpful prompts, and inspiring reasons to make this habit a cornerstone of your routine. Give yourself permission to begin each day with intention and see how your toughest decisions might become a little easier.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What if you could untangle stressful choices and quiet your mind with just a few minutes of pen on paper each morning? </em></p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the world of decision fatigue and unlock a simple tool for finding clarity. Inspired by Julia Cameron’s transformative book The Artist’s Way, and Amanda Reill’s article A Simple Way to Make Better Decisions, they introduce the morning pages practice. You will hear how three pages of free writing, done first thing in the day, can sweep away distractions and make space for wiser decisions in both life and leadership. The hosts share stories, helpful prompts, and inspiring reasons to make this habit a cornerstone of your routine. Give yourself permission to begin each day with intention and see how your toughest decisions might become a little easier.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">108e30b8-5730-48ef-b2b2-b511c66c53e2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/108e30b8-5730-48ef-b2b2-b511c66c53e2.mp3" length="4637962" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>165</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>165</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Burnout-Fog-Frustration</title><itunes:title>Burnout-Fog-Frustration</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Step into the spaces where energy fades, clarity slips away, and frustration takes center stage. In this episode, Susan and Tessa peel back the layers of burnout and overwhelm to reveal what truly helps leaders find their way back to balance. You will hear relatable confessions and practical resets, from writing things down when everything feels tangled to pausing for a brief walk or a grateful thought when the day loses focus. The hosts show how choosing compassion over criticism, telling yourself a new story, and giving yourself a break can stop the endless loops that burn you out. If you ever feel stuck in a mental fog or trapped by frustration, tune in for a fresh perspective and simple ways to reclaim your energy, your joy, and your purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step into the spaces where energy fades, clarity slips away, and frustration takes center stage. In this episode, Susan and Tessa peel back the layers of burnout and overwhelm to reveal what truly helps leaders find their way back to balance. You will hear relatable confessions and practical resets, from writing things down when everything feels tangled to pausing for a brief walk or a grateful thought when the day loses focus. The hosts show how choosing compassion over criticism, telling yourself a new story, and giving yourself a break can stop the endless loops that burn you out. If you ever feel stuck in a mental fog or trapped by frustration, tune in for a fresh perspective and simple ways to reclaim your energy, your joy, and your purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">405dd7a1-2a96-479d-8a2d-af9e61b41625</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 07:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/405dd7a1-2a96-479d-8a2d-af9e61b41625.mp3" length="5459930" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>164</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>164</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Having a Dip of Doubt?</title><itunes:title>Are You Having a Dip of Doubt?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever question if you are really up to the challenge? In this open and honest episode, Susan and Tessa explore the universal experience of self-doubt and reveal why it is a sign of caring and growth, not weakness. They invite listeners to name their doubt, embrace it as a moment in time, and replace harsh self-judgment with grace. Through stories, practical reflection, and warm encouragement, you will learn how to pause, reconnect with your purpose, and use those “dips” as data to grow stronger. Let this episode remind you that everyone stumbles sometimes, but you are more capable than you realize. Listen for inspiration to keep moving forward and let your light shine, even when doubt tries to dim it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever question if you are really up to the challenge? In this open and honest episode, Susan and Tessa explore the universal experience of self-doubt and reveal why it is a sign of caring and growth, not weakness. They invite listeners to name their doubt, embrace it as a moment in time, and replace harsh self-judgment with grace. Through stories, practical reflection, and warm encouragement, you will learn how to pause, reconnect with your purpose, and use those “dips” as data to grow stronger. Let this episode remind you that everyone stumbles sometimes, but you are more capable than you realize. Listen for inspiration to keep moving forward and let your light shine, even when doubt tries to dim it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">578e49bc-2368-4e53-8008-217eea51cb0b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/578e49bc-2368-4e53-8008-217eea51cb0b.mp3" length="5096410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>163</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>163</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Inbox Confessions: Are You Guilty of Email Offenses?</title><itunes:title>Inbox Confessions: Are You Guilty of Email Offenses?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><em>How many emails have you sent that missed the mark entirely?</em></p><p> In this playful and thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa reveal the hidden habits and honest blunders that happen behind every “send” button. Through stories about emoji-overload, missed messages, and the struggle to find brevity when every word feels important, they invite listeners to rethink how they communicate with others. </p><p>The conversation digs into why clarity matters as much as kindness, and why slowing down to truly understand what another person needs can save time and heartache. If you have ever rushed a reply, struggled to get your point across, or wondered if your intentions were clear, this episode is for you. Tune in for practical tips and a gentle nudge to bring purpose into every message you craft.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How many emails have you sent that missed the mark entirely?</em></p><p> In this playful and thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa reveal the hidden habits and honest blunders that happen behind every “send” button. Through stories about emoji-overload, missed messages, and the struggle to find brevity when every word feels important, they invite listeners to rethink how they communicate with others. </p><p>The conversation digs into why clarity matters as much as kindness, and why slowing down to truly understand what another person needs can save time and heartache. If you have ever rushed a reply, struggled to get your point across, or wondered if your intentions were clear, this episode is for you. Tune in for practical tips and a gentle nudge to bring purpose into every message you craft.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2787d7f5-5d75-44e7-9132-a0ce016faa92</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2787d7f5-5d75-44e7-9132-a0ce016faa92.mp3" length="4262582" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>162</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>162</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Make Your Leadership Sustainable?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Make Your Leadership Sustainable?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What keeps leaders from burning out when the pressure never lets up? In this episode, Susan and Tessa flip the script on traditional leadership advice by exploring what it truly means to make your work sustainable. Instead of pushing harder, they share stories about planning for busy seasons, showing compassion to yourself when things get messy, and learning to let go of what no longer serves you. Discover how small rituals, personal notes, and asking for help can help you hold onto what matters most. The conversation is filled with practical ideas for advocating for yourself and trusting that challenges, like seasons, will eventually shift. Whether you are a new leader or deep in your journey, you will find inspiration to build habits that keep you healthy and hopeful for every season ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What keeps leaders from burning out when the pressure never lets up? In this episode, Susan and Tessa flip the script on traditional leadership advice by exploring what it truly means to make your work sustainable. Instead of pushing harder, they share stories about planning for busy seasons, showing compassion to yourself when things get messy, and learning to let go of what no longer serves you. Discover how small rituals, personal notes, and asking for help can help you hold onto what matters most. The conversation is filled with practical ideas for advocating for yourself and trusting that challenges, like seasons, will eventually shift. Whether you are a new leader or deep in your journey, you will find inspiration to build habits that keep you healthy and hopeful for every season ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5e4937f1-731e-4a33-a011-89e318c22825</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5e4937f1-731e-4a33-a011-89e318c22825.mp3" length="5173681" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>161</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>161</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Power of Sleep</title><itunes:title>The Power of Sleep</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Are you running on empty or refueling for success? In this episode, Susan and Tessa ask leaders to confront a common blind spot by exploring the secret ingredient that unlocks better decisions, stronger relationships, and sharper thinking. Through candid stories about missing sleep for deadlines, life’s unexpected crises, and the myth of playing catch-up on weekends, the conversation blends science, humor, and heartfelt advice. Discover how sleep deprivation slowly erodes your leadership, why protecting your rest can help you lead with clarity, and practical ways to break unhealthy patterns before they break you. Listen in and let this episode be your reminder that sleep is not optional, it is essential for shining your brightest—every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you running on empty or refueling for success? In this episode, Susan and Tessa ask leaders to confront a common blind spot by exploring the secret ingredient that unlocks better decisions, stronger relationships, and sharper thinking. Through candid stories about missing sleep for deadlines, life’s unexpected crises, and the myth of playing catch-up on weekends, the conversation blends science, humor, and heartfelt advice. Discover how sleep deprivation slowly erodes your leadership, why protecting your rest can help you lead with clarity, and practical ways to break unhealthy patterns before they break you. Listen in and let this episode be your reminder that sleep is not optional, it is essential for shining your brightest—every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6113418c-22be-4e0b-9d9b-745803db84ae</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6113418c-22be-4e0b-9d9b-745803db84ae.mp3" length="5352410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>160</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>160</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Just Because I can, Doesn&apos;t Mean I Should</title><itunes:title>Just Because I can, Doesn&apos;t Mean I Should</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode delivers a memorable lesson on the power of restraint and thoughtful leadership. Susan and Tessa reflect on moments both big and small, starting with a real-life story at the airport, where choosing connection over convenience made a lasting impact. They highlight how true leadership means slowing down and walking beside others, even when it would be easier to race ahead. Through personal anecdotes, practical wisdom, and reflective challenges, you are encouraged to pause and ask yourself whether your choices support the culture and relationships you want to build. Small decisions matter, and sometimes the best leaders are the ones who choose not to go it alone.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode delivers a memorable lesson on the power of restraint and thoughtful leadership. Susan and Tessa reflect on moments both big and small, starting with a real-life story at the airport, where choosing connection over convenience made a lasting impact. They highlight how true leadership means slowing down and walking beside others, even when it would be easier to race ahead. Through personal anecdotes, practical wisdom, and reflective challenges, you are encouraged to pause and ask yourself whether your choices support the culture and relationships you want to build. Small decisions matter, and sometimes the best leaders are the ones who choose not to go it alone.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ba1db8d9-91ee-468e-96b9-f78492765d99</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ba1db8d9-91ee-468e-96b9-f78492765d99.mp3" length="3883702" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>159</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>159</podcast:episode></item><item><title>60 Days and Counting?</title><itunes:title>60 Days and Counting?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As the clock ticks down on the year, Susan and Tessa challenge listeners to stop playing the waiting game. This episode is all about harnessing the final stretch, reflecting on routines and habits, and deciding what to keep, refine, or leave behind before a new year arrives. Through memorable stories and a football comeback metaphor, you will find encouragement to make changes now instead of delaying until January. Tune in for an energizing conversation packed with reflection prompts and inspiration to finish strong, so you greet 2026 as your best self. Now is the time to take action and make every day count.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the clock ticks down on the year, Susan and Tessa challenge listeners to stop playing the waiting game. This episode is all about harnessing the final stretch, reflecting on routines and habits, and deciding what to keep, refine, or leave behind before a new year arrives. Through memorable stories and a football comeback metaphor, you will find encouragement to make changes now instead of delaying until January. Tune in for an energizing conversation packed with reflection prompts and inspiration to finish strong, so you greet 2026 as your best self. Now is the time to take action and make every day count.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c6cef7e6-2ec5-4be5-94c5-6c23af09e15c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c6cef7e6-2ec5-4be5-94c5-6c23af09e15c.mp3" length="4166399" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>158</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>158</podcast:episode></item><item><title>As a Leader, Are You Using AI?</title><itunes:title>As a Leader, Are You Using AI?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine stepping into a world where technology helps lighten your leadership load one click at a time. In this episode, Susan and Tessa invite you to dip your toes into the future, exploring how artificial intelligence can transform the way you work. Whether you are using AI to draft your first letters, analyze mountains of data, or simply take care of the small details, you will find practical wisdom on embracing new tools while keeping your leadership authentic and human. They discuss the importance of curiosity, safeguards for privacy, and learning alongside others. Through personal stories, playful metaphors, and a spirit of experimentation, this conversation is your gentle nudge to get curious, try something new, and discover how AI can help you work smarter, not harder.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine stepping into a world where technology helps lighten your leadership load one click at a time. In this episode, Susan and Tessa invite you to dip your toes into the future, exploring how artificial intelligence can transform the way you work. Whether you are using AI to draft your first letters, analyze mountains of data, or simply take care of the small details, you will find practical wisdom on embracing new tools while keeping your leadership authentic and human. They discuss the importance of curiosity, safeguards for privacy, and learning alongside others. Through personal stories, playful metaphors, and a spirit of experimentation, this conversation is your gentle nudge to get curious, try something new, and discover how AI can help you work smarter, not harder.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3a0ac6a7-6f2d-460a-96fa-bb0b7ae93a05</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/3a0ac6a7-6f2d-460a-96fa-bb0b7ae93a05.mp3" length="6913122" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>157</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>157</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Leading or Just Looking Like It?</title><itunes:title>Are You Leading or Just Looking Like It?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Not all leaders are cut from the same cloth. In this thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa pull back the curtain on the world of leadership to reveal the difference between truly inspiring action and simply playing the part. They invite listeners to step out of the spotlight and into authentic leadership, where accountability, follow-through, and real connection count far more than good optics or titles. With storytelling and practical insight, the hosts shine a light on the pitfalls of performative leadership and the power of genuine service. This episode challenges you to reflect, roll up your sleeves, and let your leadership speak louder than your image.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all leaders are cut from the same cloth. In this thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa pull back the curtain on the world of leadership to reveal the difference between truly inspiring action and simply playing the part. They invite listeners to step out of the spotlight and into authentic leadership, where accountability, follow-through, and real connection count far more than good optics or titles. With storytelling and practical insight, the hosts shine a light on the pitfalls of performative leadership and the power of genuine service. This episode challenges you to reflect, roll up your sleeves, and let your leadership speak louder than your image.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b14871b1-b9cc-41ad-9d86-cfb337bd0963</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b14871b1-b9cc-41ad-9d86-cfb337bd0963.mp3" length="4058879" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>156</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>156</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Don&apos;t Give into the Negative Self Talk</title><itunes:title>Don&apos;t Give into the Negative Self Talk</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this encouraging episode, Susan and Tessa confront the inner critic that every leader faces. Drawing on personal stories and the wisdom of self-compassion, they challenge listeners to notice the negative chatter, name it, and gently turn down its volume. The hosts discuss how risk-taking, reflection, and courage are essential to growth, even when self-doubt creeps in. Listeners will find practical ways to replace self-judgment with understanding, embrace the discomfort of learning, and remember their own strengths. Tune in for real-world advice and a reminder to show yourself the same kindness you would offer a friend or teammate.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this encouraging episode, Susan and Tessa confront the inner critic that every leader faces. Drawing on personal stories and the wisdom of self-compassion, they challenge listeners to notice the negative chatter, name it, and gently turn down its volume. The hosts discuss how risk-taking, reflection, and courage are essential to growth, even when self-doubt creeps in. Listeners will find practical ways to replace self-judgment with understanding, embrace the discomfort of learning, and remember their own strengths. Tune in for real-world advice and a reminder to show yourself the same kindness you would offer a friend or teammate.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d1134786-6989-4247-8fdf-6bccff5876c7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d1134786-6989-4247-8fdf-6bccff5876c7.mp3" length="4364250" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>155</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>155</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Please, Make That Stop</title><itunes:title>Please, Make That Stop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the real-life frustrations that show up in work and life, such as a crying baby on airplanes to overwhelming leadership demands. Through a powerful story of compassion and reflection, they reveal how quickly judgment and assumptions can cloud our view of others and ourselves. The hosts explore what it takes to pause, notice the emotional loads people carry, and offer support—even if all you can do is a kind word. Tune in for insights on self-awareness, curiosity, and asking for help when things get tough. With practical questions and gentle reminders, this episode challenges you to look for ways to help and to give grace, both to yourself and those around you.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the real-life frustrations that show up in work and life, such as a crying baby on airplanes to overwhelming leadership demands. Through a powerful story of compassion and reflection, they reveal how quickly judgment and assumptions can cloud our view of others and ourselves. The hosts explore what it takes to pause, notice the emotional loads people carry, and offer support—even if all you can do is a kind word. Tune in for insights on self-awareness, curiosity, and asking for help when things get tough. With practical questions and gentle reminders, this episode challenges you to look for ways to help and to give grace, both to yourself and those around you.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">063a4ca8-8960-4d61-a697-a8852b664e0e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/063a4ca8-8960-4d61-a697-a8852b664e0e.mp3" length="6521913" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>154</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>154</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Jargon</title><itunes:title>Jargon</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa shine a light on the confusing world of workplace jargon. They share stories about the pitfalls of acronyms, “legalese,” and insider language that can leave newcomers feeling lost or left out. Listeners will discover practical strategies for making communication more welcoming, like creating shared jargon sheets and building the courage to ask “What does that mean?” The hosts examine how simple, clear language helps teams connect, learn, and thrive, which makes space for every voice. Tune in for a fun, down-to-earth reminder that when everyone understands the message, everyone can contribute their best.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa shine a light on the confusing world of workplace jargon. They share stories about the pitfalls of acronyms, “legalese,” and insider language that can leave newcomers feeling lost or left out. Listeners will discover practical strategies for making communication more welcoming, like creating shared jargon sheets and building the courage to ask “What does that mean?” The hosts examine how simple, clear language helps teams connect, learn, and thrive, which makes space for every voice. Tune in for a fun, down-to-earth reminder that when everyone understands the message, everyone can contribute their best.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ebb6c5a9-a72b-42bc-a96a-cd33289f0fe9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ebb6c5a9-a72b-42bc-a96a-cd33289f0fe9.mp3" length="3806170" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>153</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>153</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Did I squash you?</title><itunes:title>Did I squash you?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share a vivid story about a lizard on the road to spark real talk about the unintended impact leaders sometimes have on others. Even with the best intentions, our words or actions can “squash” ideas, energy, or relationships without us even knowing. The hosts reflect on how easy it is to overlook the small moments that shape workplace culture—and why self-awareness, humility, and honest feedback are key tools for every leader. Tune in for memorable metaphors, practical questions to ask yourself, and a powerful challenge to pause, reflect, and make sure your leadership truly lifts people up instead of accidentally holding them back.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa share a vivid story about a lizard on the road to spark real talk about the unintended impact leaders sometimes have on others. Even with the best intentions, our words or actions can “squash” ideas, energy, or relationships without us even knowing. The hosts reflect on how easy it is to overlook the small moments that shape workplace culture—and why self-awareness, humility, and honest feedback are key tools for every leader. Tune in for memorable metaphors, practical questions to ask yourself, and a powerful challenge to pause, reflect, and make sure your leadership truly lifts people up instead of accidentally holding them back.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c8c8465-7b45-4d16-8046-015489c8b5e8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5c8c8465-7b45-4d16-8046-015489c8b5e8.mp3" length="4570566" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>152</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>152</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Wash, Rinse, and Repeat</title><itunes:title>Wash, Rinse, and Repeat</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenge all leaders face: how to keep important messages fresh when repetition feels relentless. They break down the “wash, rinse, and repeat” philosophy, being clear, reinforcing key ideas in varied ways, and living the principles you preach. </p><p>Discover how to individualize communication for different team members, avoid message fatigue, and keep everyone truly engaged. With memorable stories and practical strategies, this episode reminds listeners that consistency, clarity, and authenticity are the real detergent for building trust and avoiding workplace miscommunication. Tune in for a boost of encouragement to keep showing up, keep walking your talk, and ensure your leadership message always rings true.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenge all leaders face: how to keep important messages fresh when repetition feels relentless. They break down the “wash, rinse, and repeat” philosophy, being clear, reinforcing key ideas in varied ways, and living the principles you preach. </p><p>Discover how to individualize communication for different team members, avoid message fatigue, and keep everyone truly engaged. With memorable stories and practical strategies, this episode reminds listeners that consistency, clarity, and authenticity are the real detergent for building trust and avoiding workplace miscommunication. Tune in for a boost of encouragement to keep showing up, keep walking your talk, and ensure your leadership message always rings true.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">efede932-2a6c-4787-9155-04db13dfff10</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 06:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/efede932-2a6c-4787-9155-04db13dfff10.mp3" length="4143359" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>151</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>151</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Who Gets Their Way?</title><itunes:title>Who Gets Their Way?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa dig into what happens when passionate perspectives collide and everyone wants things done their way. Through a real-world committee story, the hosts explore how stubbornness, ego, and high stakes can fuel tension—but also how curiosity and small gestures of flexibility can spark authentic collaboration. Listen in for actionable steps on pausing the urge to win, naming conflict, staying open to others’ brilliance, and redefining success as a shared journey. With humor and honesty, Susan and Tessa show leaders how to turn showdowns into breakthroughs, making space for every voice—and, ultimately, better solutions.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa dig into what happens when passionate perspectives collide and everyone wants things done their way. Through a real-world committee story, the hosts explore how stubbornness, ego, and high stakes can fuel tension—but also how curiosity and small gestures of flexibility can spark authentic collaboration. Listen in for actionable steps on pausing the urge to win, naming conflict, staying open to others’ brilliance, and redefining success as a shared journey. With humor and honesty, Susan and Tessa show leaders how to turn showdowns into breakthroughs, making space for every voice—and, ultimately, better solutions.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a50860dd-7715-4c31-92af-cf7d519d72db</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a50860dd-7715-4c31-92af-cf7d519d72db.mp3" length="4385305" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>150</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>150</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Highlight the Wins</title><itunes:title>Highlight the Wins</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this uplifting episode, Susan and Tessa share why focusing on small victories can make all the difference for leaders feeling overwhelmed. With stories about recognizing the everyday wins—like a clean building, a heartfelt compliment, or a team that is working better together—they reveal how these moments fuel resilience, boost morale, and keep burnout at bay. Learn why celebrating even the tiniest successes can reset your mindset, encourage your team, and help you rediscover purpose when the pressure is high. Tune in for practical tips and heartfelt reminders that noticing what is going right just might be the best way to sustain your energy and inspire those around you.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this uplifting episode, Susan and Tessa share why focusing on small victories can make all the difference for leaders feeling overwhelmed. With stories about recognizing the everyday wins—like a clean building, a heartfelt compliment, or a team that is working better together—they reveal how these moments fuel resilience, boost morale, and keep burnout at bay. Learn why celebrating even the tiniest successes can reset your mindset, encourage your team, and help you rediscover purpose when the pressure is high. Tune in for practical tips and heartfelt reminders that noticing what is going right just might be the best way to sustain your energy and inspire those around you.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">91d7bac3-efa1-48ad-b07f-f01f3098eec1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/91d7bac3-efa1-48ad-b07f-f01f3098eec1.mp3" length="4158719" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>149</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>149</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Believe in you!</title><itunes:title>Believe in you!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this uplifting episode, Susan and Tessa dive deep into the importance of self-belief, especially for leaders facing setbacks, doubt, and criticism. Through vulnerable stories, from high school math classes to challenges in career advancement, they share how having grit, building personal mantras, and making space for tiny wins can shift a leader’s mindset from “not yet” to “I’ve got this.” Discover creative strategies, like “I’ve got this” playlists and positive self-talk, for cheering yourself on, even when others are not. Tune in for practical encouragement and real-life wisdom that help you keep moving forward, hold your head high, and shine for those around you. When you believe in yourself, new possibilities open up.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this uplifting episode, Susan and Tessa dive deep into the importance of self-belief, especially for leaders facing setbacks, doubt, and criticism. Through vulnerable stories, from high school math classes to challenges in career advancement, they share how having grit, building personal mantras, and making space for tiny wins can shift a leader’s mindset from “not yet” to “I’ve got this.” Discover creative strategies, like “I’ve got this” playlists and positive self-talk, for cheering yourself on, even when others are not. Tune in for practical encouragement and real-life wisdom that help you keep moving forward, hold your head high, and shine for those around you. When you believe in yourself, new possibilities open up.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ceb74fcf-1e10-4e05-a28d-c57dfab6f54f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ceb74fcf-1e10-4e05-a28d-c57dfab6f54f.mp3" length="5220388" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>148</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>148</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Who is in Your Leadership Circle?</title><itunes:title>Who is in Your Leadership Circle?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Who do you surround yourself with and how does it shape who you are as a leader? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into the powerful influence of your leadership circle. Reflecting on lessons from early teaching days and personal stories, they explore why the attitudes and habits of those around you can either energize your growth or hold you back. The hosts discuss the importance of seeking out mentors, thought partners, and peers who encourage challenge, accountability, and resilience. You will hear why venting has its place but comfort zones can trap you, and how the right people nudge you toward your best self. Tune in to examine your own circle and pick up practical advice for building a network that supports your leadership legacy.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do you surround yourself with and how does it shape who you are as a leader? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into the powerful influence of your leadership circle. Reflecting on lessons from early teaching days and personal stories, they explore why the attitudes and habits of those around you can either energize your growth or hold you back. The hosts discuss the importance of seeking out mentors, thought partners, and peers who encourage challenge, accountability, and resilience. You will hear why venting has its place but comfort zones can trap you, and how the right people nudge you toward your best self. Tune in to examine your own circle and pick up practical advice for building a network that supports your leadership legacy.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f2ec1e36-3bb6-428f-ac60-b9e6b77ba134</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f2ec1e36-3bb6-428f-ac60-b9e6b77ba134.mp3" length="4976090" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>147</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>147</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Buck Stops With You</title><itunes:title>The Buck Stops With You</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to take responsibility as a leader when tough conversations and blame come your way. They share personal stories—from being accused of not communicating clearly to facing challenging feedback—and reveal why defensiveness rarely leads to growth. Instead, listeners learn the power of pausing, getting curious, and asking for the other person’s perspective to truly understand the situation. The hosts offer practical strategies for shifting from reaction to reflection, and making space for honest dialogue where every viewpoint matters. Tune in for relatable examples and a thoughtful challenge: notice where you can swap defensiveness for curiosity and help your team solve what matters most together.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to take responsibility as a leader when tough conversations and blame come your way. They share personal stories—from being accused of not communicating clearly to facing challenging feedback—and reveal why defensiveness rarely leads to growth. Instead, listeners learn the power of pausing, getting curious, and asking for the other person’s perspective to truly understand the situation. The hosts offer practical strategies for shifting from reaction to reflection, and making space for honest dialogue where every viewpoint matters. Tune in for relatable examples and a thoughtful challenge: notice where you can swap defensiveness for curiosity and help your team solve what matters most together.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0a4f8891-8f74-4f9e-91a0-b74e7c2bd955</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0a4f8891-8f74-4f9e-91a0-b74e7c2bd955.mp3" length="4230138" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>146</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>146</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What You Permit You May Be Promoting</title><itunes:title>What You Permit You May Be Promoting</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What do your silent choices really say about your values as a leader? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa take listeners behind the scenes of workplace culture, where unsaid words and overlooked actions send messages louder than policies and posters. Through memorable stories, from students testing the boundaries of a dress code to leaders missing the chance for a simple conversation, they reveal how a lack of consistency can quietly shape behavior and team dynamics. Susan and Tessa unwrap the messy discomfort of addressing issues early and why bravely speaking up—however awkward—often builds the trust and clarity teams crave. If you have ever wondered what unspoken habits are truly running your team, this episode challenges you to rethink what you tolerate and how, with a little vulnerability, you can change the narrative.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do your silent choices really say about your values as a leader? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa take listeners behind the scenes of workplace culture, where unsaid words and overlooked actions send messages louder than policies and posters. Through memorable stories, from students testing the boundaries of a dress code to leaders missing the chance for a simple conversation, they reveal how a lack of consistency can quietly shape behavior and team dynamics. Susan and Tessa unwrap the messy discomfort of addressing issues early and why bravely speaking up—however awkward—often builds the trust and clarity teams crave. If you have ever wondered what unspoken habits are truly running your team, this episode challenges you to rethink what you tolerate and how, with a little vulnerability, you can change the narrative.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bf5a3457-567d-420e-86a8-cee7d0a25857</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/bf5a3457-567d-420e-86a8-cee7d0a25857.mp3" length="4990301" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>145</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>145</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How is the Weather?</title><itunes:title>How is the Weather?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this interesting episode, Susan and Tessa use the metaphor of weather to navigate the ups and downs of team dynamics. Drawing on classics like forming, storming, norming, and performing, they bring each stage to life, such as sunny skies for new beginnings, clouds for conflict, shifting patterns as teams settle in, and clear momentum once collaboration clicks. </p><p>Susan and Tessa share vivid stories, practical leader tips, and reminders that team “weather” is always changing, requiring leaders to stay tuned in and responsive. Whether you are riding out a team storm or celebrating the magic of clear skies, you will find encouragement and actionable steps to help your team thrive through every season.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this interesting episode, Susan and Tessa use the metaphor of weather to navigate the ups and downs of team dynamics. Drawing on classics like forming, storming, norming, and performing, they bring each stage to life, such as sunny skies for new beginnings, clouds for conflict, shifting patterns as teams settle in, and clear momentum once collaboration clicks. </p><p>Susan and Tessa share vivid stories, practical leader tips, and reminders that team “weather” is always changing, requiring leaders to stay tuned in and responsive. Whether you are riding out a team storm or celebrating the magic of clear skies, you will find encouragement and actionable steps to help your team thrive through every season.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c00677b6-c41a-4236-a5b4-bb20f03fb1f3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 06:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c00677b6-c41a-4236-a5b4-bb20f03fb1f3.mp3" length="6992744" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>144</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>144</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Wanna switch?</title><itunes:title>Wanna switch?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this Monday episode, Susan and Tessa explore the surprising power of asking for what you want. Inspired by a moment on an airplane, they discuss why so many people hesitate to “shoot their shot” and how self-doubt, fear of rejection, or assumptions can hold back authentic requests. The hosts share practical steps for getting clear about desires, reframing risk, and making brave asks with humility. Through candid stories, from career crossroads to unexpected wins, they highlight how transparency and courage can open doors for growth, connection, and support. Tune in for relatable advice on having bold conversations and creating opportunities simply by daring to ask.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this Monday episode, Susan and Tessa explore the surprising power of asking for what you want. Inspired by a moment on an airplane, they discuss why so many people hesitate to “shoot their shot” and how self-doubt, fear of rejection, or assumptions can hold back authentic requests. The hosts share practical steps for getting clear about desires, reframing risk, and making brave asks with humility. Through candid stories, from career crossroads to unexpected wins, they highlight how transparency and courage can open doors for growth, connection, and support. Tune in for relatable advice on having bold conversations and creating opportunities simply by daring to ask.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">823b78c2-049a-4733-828e-7471a6f8ddf5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 08:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/823b78c2-049a-4733-828e-7471a6f8ddf5.mp3" length="4784979" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>143</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>143</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Try Water</title><itunes:title>Try Water</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the simple but powerful habit of staying hydrated and why it matters for leaders. They share personal stories, from forgotten water bottles to dramatic lessons about dehydration’s impact on energy, focus, and even health. Discover practical tips for making hydration enjoyable, like adding fruit or choosing water-rich foods, and hear how a few mindful sips during the day can help reduce stress and boost resilience. Tune in for a lively reminder that small choices, like reaching for water, help leaders and teams feel their best and show up ready for anything.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the simple but powerful habit of staying hydrated and why it matters for leaders. They share personal stories, from forgotten water bottles to dramatic lessons about dehydration’s impact on energy, focus, and even health. Discover practical tips for making hydration enjoyable, like adding fruit or choosing water-rich foods, and hear how a few mindful sips during the day can help reduce stress and boost resilience. Tune in for a lively reminder that small choices, like reaching for water, help leaders and teams feel their best and show up ready for anything.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b7c4ecec-31ed-4408-8253-a86b995fa4d2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b7c4ecec-31ed-4408-8253-a86b995fa4d2.mp3" length="4511633" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>142</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>142</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Remember to Pause!</title><itunes:title>Remember to Pause!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa talk about why taking a purposeful pause is the secret to productive, mindful leadership. They share real-life stories about juggling busy schedules, the pressure to keep moving, and the moments that signal it is time to slow down. Learn simple ways to pump the brakes, set boundaries, and make intentional space for rest. Whether that is walking slower to a meeting or blocking out time away from emails. Discover how brief moments of reflection can restore energy, boost creativity, and even help leaders make wiser decisions. Tune in for encouragement to give yourself grace and remember that sometimes, slowing down is what helps you move forward.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa talk about why taking a purposeful pause is the secret to productive, mindful leadership. They share real-life stories about juggling busy schedules, the pressure to keep moving, and the moments that signal it is time to slow down. Learn simple ways to pump the brakes, set boundaries, and make intentional space for rest. Whether that is walking slower to a meeting or blocking out time away from emails. Discover how brief moments of reflection can restore energy, boost creativity, and even help leaders make wiser decisions. Tune in for encouragement to give yourself grace and remember that sometimes, slowing down is what helps you move forward.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">172abb33-e18f-40a4-a42d-fb14042a4328</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/172abb33-e18f-40a4-a42d-fb14042a4328.mp3" length="4536084" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>141</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>141</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Keep an Open Mind and Ask Questions?</title><itunes:title>Do You Keep an Open Mind and Ask Questions?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the real power of curiosity in leadership. They discuss how thoughtful questioning, such as “tell me more” or “what ideas do you have?”, can shift the focus from quick fixes to deeper understanding and real growth. By sharing practical strategies and personal insights, the hosts show how staying curious helps empower teams, foster creativity, and build trust. Tune in for relatable examples and inspiration to lead with an open mind, ask better questions, and make space for every voice to shine.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the real power of curiosity in leadership. They discuss how thoughtful questioning, such as “tell me more” or “what ideas do you have?”, can shift the focus from quick fixes to deeper understanding and real growth. By sharing practical strategies and personal insights, the hosts show how staying curious helps empower teams, foster creativity, and build trust. Tune in for relatable examples and inspiration to lead with an open mind, ask better questions, and make space for every voice to shine.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">889deb40-21d2-493d-8214-de4568c12c43</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/889deb40-21d2-493d-8214-de4568c12c43.mp3" length="3748753" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>140</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>140</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Be The First to Say Hello</title><itunes:title>Be The First to Say Hello</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>A single “hello” can change the tone of an entire day. In this episode, Susan and Tessa uncover the quiet but powerful impact of being the first to greet others. From a smile in the hallway to a quick check-in that shows genuine care, they highlight how these small moments ripple outward, shaping trust, connection, and culture. Through stories and simple strategies, the hosts remind us that leadership isn’t always found in big gestures—it’s often in the everyday choice to see and acknowledge the people around us. Tune in to learn how a few intentional words can brighten spaces, lift morale, and build stronger, more supportive teams.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A single “hello” can change the tone of an entire day. In this episode, Susan and Tessa uncover the quiet but powerful impact of being the first to greet others. From a smile in the hallway to a quick check-in that shows genuine care, they highlight how these small moments ripple outward, shaping trust, connection, and culture. Through stories and simple strategies, the hosts remind us that leadership isn’t always found in big gestures—it’s often in the everyday choice to see and acknowledge the people around us. Tune in to learn how a few intentional words can brighten spaces, lift morale, and build stronger, more supportive teams.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8843f8c9-529b-4fe1-9d76-e823f093e210</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8843f8c9-529b-4fe1-9d76-e823f093e210.mp3" length="4305057" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>139</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>139</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Has Fatigue Already Robbed Your Team&apos;s Energy?</title><itunes:title>Has Fatigue Already Robbed Your Team&apos;s Energy?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Feeling drained before the day even begins? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle what happens when fatigue steals away the spark that leaders and teams need to do their best work. Susan shares a game-changing meeting ritual that resets energy and sets intention, while Tessa reveals the power of shifting your story and focusing on what fuels you. Hear why recharging is not just about managing time, but managing the energy and mindset that drive you. </p><p>Discover how reconnecting with your “why” can reignite motivation, and learn practical ways to help your team find renewed energy—even in tough times. Tune in for real-life stories, fresh ideas, and a powerful reminder that the fire within can outlast any wave of exhaustion.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeling drained before the day even begins? </p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle what happens when fatigue steals away the spark that leaders and teams need to do their best work. Susan shares a game-changing meeting ritual that resets energy and sets intention, while Tessa reveals the power of shifting your story and focusing on what fuels you. Hear why recharging is not just about managing time, but managing the energy and mindset that drive you. </p><p>Discover how reconnecting with your “why” can reignite motivation, and learn practical ways to help your team find renewed energy—even in tough times. Tune in for real-life stories, fresh ideas, and a powerful reminder that the fire within can outlast any wave of exhaustion.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8d9b8adf-403a-4f5b-9659-69d24600f7a2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8d9b8adf-403a-4f5b-9659-69d24600f7a2.mp3" length="4725576" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>138</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>138</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You a Fair Leader?</title><itunes:title>Are You a Fair Leader?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Fairness in leadership isn’t about keeping score or handing out identical treatment—it’s about building trust in the unseen moments and setting a standard your team can believe in. </p><p>In this episode of <strong>Dips of Doubt</strong>, Susan and Tessa peel back the layers of what it really means to be a fair leader, weaving in real stories and hard truths from the workplace. They explore how favoritism (or even the perception of it) can quietly erode morale, why consistency matters more than “sameness,” and how confidential decisions can unintentionally spark doubt. Through candid reflections and practical strategies, they challenge leaders to examine their own actions, recognize hidden biases, and model fairness in ways that strengthen relationships.</p><p>This conversation is a reminder that fairness isn’t a performance for others to applaud—it’s the steady rhythm of integrity that keeps a team moving forward together.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairness in leadership isn’t about keeping score or handing out identical treatment—it’s about building trust in the unseen moments and setting a standard your team can believe in. </p><p>In this episode of <strong>Dips of Doubt</strong>, Susan and Tessa peel back the layers of what it really means to be a fair leader, weaving in real stories and hard truths from the workplace. They explore how favoritism (or even the perception of it) can quietly erode morale, why consistency matters more than “sameness,” and how confidential decisions can unintentionally spark doubt. Through candid reflections and practical strategies, they challenge leaders to examine their own actions, recognize hidden biases, and model fairness in ways that strengthen relationships.</p><p>This conversation is a reminder that fairness isn’t a performance for others to applaud—it’s the steady rhythm of integrity that keeps a team moving forward together.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">d80883e7-25d6-403e-ae6c-b0e80ce44a7a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/d80883e7-25d6-403e-ae6c-b0e80ce44a7a.mp3" length="6742856" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>137</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>137</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Ferris Wheels, Merry Go Rounds and Spinning Tops</title><itunes:title>Ferris Wheels, Merry Go Rounds and Spinning Tops</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Some leadership challenges feel less like a straight path and more like an amusement park ride you didn’t choose—spinning, looping, and returning to the same spot over and over. In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the exhausting cycle of recurring conflicts and unresolved conversations that leave leaders dizzy and teams stalled.</p><p>They offer practical ways to step off the ride, from asking better questions and clarifying expectations to creating shared commitments everyone can stand behind. Along the way, they show how curiosity can replace assumption, and how follow-through builds trust instead of tension.</p><p>If you’re ready to trade endless circles for forward momentum, this conversation will help you find your footing, steady your team, and move together with clarity and purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some leadership challenges feel less like a straight path and more like an amusement park ride you didn’t choose—spinning, looping, and returning to the same spot over and over. In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the exhausting cycle of recurring conflicts and unresolved conversations that leave leaders dizzy and teams stalled.</p><p>They offer practical ways to step off the ride, from asking better questions and clarifying expectations to creating shared commitments everyone can stand behind. Along the way, they show how curiosity can replace assumption, and how follow-through builds trust instead of tension.</p><p>If you’re ready to trade endless circles for forward momentum, this conversation will help you find your footing, steady your team, and move together with clarity and purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ab889d34-55ef-43f5-873f-22c2f155c529</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ab889d34-55ef-43f5-873f-22c2f155c529.mp3" length="6746670" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>136</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>136</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Leadership and Courage</title><itunes:title>Leadership and Courage</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to lead with courage. They discuss the challenges of speaking the truth, having difficult conversations, and creating a culture of clarity and respect. Drawing on ideas from Brené Brown’s&nbsp;<em>Dare to Lead</em>, they share how being “clear is kind” can prevent misunderstandings, build trust, and unlock the potential of every team member.</p><p>Through candid examples, they highlight the importance of honesty, curiosity, and early action when addressing performance or communication concerns. You will hear practical steps for balancing kindness with accountability and reminders that courageous leadership is not easy, but it is worth it.</p><p>Tune in for encouragement, actionable insights, and a renewed commitment to leading with respect, clarity, and heart.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa explore what it really means to lead with courage. They discuss the challenges of speaking the truth, having difficult conversations, and creating a culture of clarity and respect. Drawing on ideas from Brené Brown’s&nbsp;<em>Dare to Lead</em>, they share how being “clear is kind” can prevent misunderstandings, build trust, and unlock the potential of every team member.</p><p>Through candid examples, they highlight the importance of honesty, curiosity, and early action when addressing performance or communication concerns. You will hear practical steps for balancing kindness with accountability and reminders that courageous leadership is not easy, but it is worth it.</p><p>Tune in for encouragement, actionable insights, and a renewed commitment to leading with respect, clarity, and heart.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">64c86e5b-4e94-4510-bb22-023a1b3a2c27</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/64c86e5b-4e94-4510-bb22-023a1b3a2c27.mp3" length="5634742" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>135</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>135</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Sitting with Discomfort</title><itunes:title>Sitting with Discomfort</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Some days, leadership feels like climbing a hill that keeps getting steeper—your legs burn, the air thins, and you wonder if you’re ever going to reach the top. In this vulnerable and energizing episode, Susan and Tessa talk about what it means to lead through the moments when doubt creeps in and progress stalls.</p><p>Through honest storytelling and personal reflection, they explore how discomfort isn't a detour, but part of the journey. Tessa paints a vivid metaphor of trudging uphill, reminding us that the view is often most breathtaking after the hardest part of the climb. Whether you're facing the uncertainty of a new school year or the weight of a mid-season slump, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and just enough grit to help you press on.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some days, leadership feels like climbing a hill that keeps getting steeper—your legs burn, the air thins, and you wonder if you’re ever going to reach the top. In this vulnerable and energizing episode, Susan and Tessa talk about what it means to lead through the moments when doubt creeps in and progress stalls.</p><p>Through honest storytelling and personal reflection, they explore how discomfort isn't a detour, but part of the journey. Tessa paints a vivid metaphor of trudging uphill, reminding us that the view is often most breathtaking after the hardest part of the climb. Whether you're facing the uncertainty of a new school year or the weight of a mid-season slump, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and just enough grit to help you press on.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b32ac6ae-f0c3-4ec6-9b4d-c9f9705a6b80</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b32ac6ae-f0c3-4ec6-9b4d-c9f9705a6b80.mp3" length="4604107" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>134</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>134</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Start and End Your Day?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Start and End Your Day?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this honest episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa share transparent reflections on the routines that shape their mornings and evenings as leaders. Susan explains how early morning exercise and a quiet start set her up for the day, while Tessa discusses the power of intentional habits like keeping a to-do list and writing down late-night thoughts. Together, they explore the impact of small moments, from connecting with family to asking themselves empowering questions at bedtime. Tune in for practical tips and candid stories to help you build meaningful routines, end your day with intention, and start fresh each morning feeling prepared and positive.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this honest episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa share transparent reflections on the routines that shape their mornings and evenings as leaders. Susan explains how early morning exercise and a quiet start set her up for the day, while Tessa discusses the power of intentional habits like keeping a to-do list and writing down late-night thoughts. Together, they explore the impact of small moments, from connecting with family to asking themselves empowering questions at bedtime. Tune in for practical tips and candid stories to help you build meaningful routines, end your day with intention, and start fresh each morning feeling prepared and positive.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">91ef2ff3-7e58-479b-a4f6-36a9f6816234</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/91ef2ff3-7e58-479b-a4f6-36a9f6816234.mp3" length="5309256" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>133</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>133</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What&apos;s Your Impact?</title><itunes:title>What&apos;s Your Impact?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa explore the difference between what you intend as a leader and how your actions are actually experienced by your team. With honest stories, including a lesson learned from feedback given behind closed doors. In addition, they highlight the importance of slowing down, being mindful, and making every interaction count. The hosts share practical tips for fostering honest conversation and ensuring people leave meetings feeling valued, not drained.</p><p>Tune in for a relatable, motivating look at how your presence can create positive ripples—or unintended consequences. Your impact matters more than you realize—let’s make it count!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Dips of Doubt, Susan and Tessa explore the difference between what you intend as a leader and how your actions are actually experienced by your team. With honest stories, including a lesson learned from feedback given behind closed doors. In addition, they highlight the importance of slowing down, being mindful, and making every interaction count. The hosts share practical tips for fostering honest conversation and ensuring people leave meetings feeling valued, not drained.</p><p>Tune in for a relatable, motivating look at how your presence can create positive ripples—or unintended consequences. Your impact matters more than you realize—let’s make it count!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9511c317-6b27-4dc2-a414-04c438dcc26c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9511c317-6b27-4dc2-a414-04c438dcc26c.mp3" length="4893805" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>132</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>132</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Culture and Change</title><itunes:title>Culture and Change</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this: the principal's office is empty. The nameplate is gone, the atmosphere feels lighter, and whispers of "finally" float down the hall. But just as the door closed on one chapter, a new one opens—and in walks <em>you</em>.</p><p>Now what?</p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the unspoken tension of leadership transitions—when staff are hopeful for change but hesitant to trust again. They unpack what it means to inherit culture, not just a position. With vulnerability, strategy, and a few gentle reminders (like don’t talk more than you listen), they offer a roadmap for leaders stepping into sensitive spaces.</p><p>This isn’t about making a splash on day one. It’s about understanding the waters you’ve stepped into. Go slow. Listen hard. And remember—culture doesn’t shift by force, it shifts with trust.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this: the principal's office is empty. The nameplate is gone, the atmosphere feels lighter, and whispers of "finally" float down the hall. But just as the door closed on one chapter, a new one opens—and in walks <em>you</em>.</p><p>Now what?</p><p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the unspoken tension of leadership transitions—when staff are hopeful for change but hesitant to trust again. They unpack what it means to inherit culture, not just a position. With vulnerability, strategy, and a few gentle reminders (like don’t talk more than you listen), they offer a roadmap for leaders stepping into sensitive spaces.</p><p>This isn’t about making a splash on day one. It’s about understanding the waters you’ve stepped into. Go slow. Listen hard. And remember—culture doesn’t shift by force, it shifts with trust.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">14f01637-db47-4e51-96a3-d7e725927ebb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/14f01637-db47-4e51-96a3-d7e725927ebb.mp3" length="6534033" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>131</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>131</podcast:episode></item><item><title>It&apos;s Not About Titles</title><itunes:title>It&apos;s Not About Titles</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa challenge the idea that leadership is defined by position. They explore how true leadership is rooted in humility, collaboration, and the willingness to put ego aside. A title doesn’t automatically make someone the smartest person in the room—or give them the right to ignore the wisdom and experience of others.</p><p>Leadership can be demonstrated from any role, and often, the best solutions come from those closest to the problem. Tessa shares a powerful story from the medical field, where a power dynamic prevented nurses from speaking up to a doctor, even when lives were at risk. The lesson is clear: if we ask for input, we must genuinely listen and be willing to act on it.</p><p>When leaders create spaces where every voice matters, fear diminishes and innovation thrives. It's not about being right. It's about being better, together.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa challenge the idea that leadership is defined by position. They explore how true leadership is rooted in humility, collaboration, and the willingness to put ego aside. A title doesn’t automatically make someone the smartest person in the room—or give them the right to ignore the wisdom and experience of others.</p><p>Leadership can be demonstrated from any role, and often, the best solutions come from those closest to the problem. Tessa shares a powerful story from the medical field, where a power dynamic prevented nurses from speaking up to a doctor, even when lives were at risk. The lesson is clear: if we ask for input, we must genuinely listen and be willing to act on it.</p><p>When leaders create spaces where every voice matters, fear diminishes and innovation thrives. It's not about being right. It's about being better, together.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f9fdf6a1-5dc6-4879-b5ca-b1d42eef5f95</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f9fdf6a1-5dc6-4879-b5ca-b1d42eef5f95.mp3" length="6701530" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>130</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>130</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Tips to Avoid Communication Breakdowns</title><itunes:title>Tips to Avoid Communication Breakdowns</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa dive into one of the most overlooked but critical leadership skills—clear communication. Using Warren Buffett’s quote, “The most important investment you can make is in yourself. And one of the best ways to do this is to hone your communication skills,” they explore how miscommunication can create ripple effects across a campus.</p><p>As the school year begins, this episode invites leaders to pause and reflect: Are you speaking with clarity and intention? Are your goals being heard the way you intend? Susan and Tessa share simple yet powerful strategies—thinking before speaking, checking for understanding, watching for nonverbal cues, clarifying when confusion arises, and being brave enough to circle back when needed.</p><p>Even if it’s uncomfortable, real connection is worth the extra effort. Great leadership starts with great communication.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa dive into one of the most overlooked but critical leadership skills—clear communication. Using Warren Buffett’s quote, “The most important investment you can make is in yourself. And one of the best ways to do this is to hone your communication skills,” they explore how miscommunication can create ripple effects across a campus.</p><p>As the school year begins, this episode invites leaders to pause and reflect: Are you speaking with clarity and intention? Are your goals being heard the way you intend? Susan and Tessa share simple yet powerful strategies—thinking before speaking, checking for understanding, watching for nonverbal cues, clarifying when confusion arises, and being brave enough to circle back when needed.</p><p>Even if it’s uncomfortable, real connection is worth the extra effort. Great leadership starts with great communication.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4b81c860-7198-4335-9b52-60c703b5e3d0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4b81c860-7198-4335-9b52-60c703b5e3d0.mp3" length="6098102" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>129</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>129</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Onboarding and Reboarding with Purpose</title><itunes:title>Onboarding and Reboarding with Purpose</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ever notice how flight attendants never skip the safety briefing, even if most passengers have flown dozens of times? That’s because when it comes to crucial information, repetition matters. In this episode, Susan and Tessa draw inspiration from the runway to the school hallway, exploring how leaders must be just as intentional when onboarding new staff or reboarding returning team members. Too often, we assume everyone remembers the playbook—shared commitments, procedures, and core values—but the truth is, clarity requires consistency. Susan and Tessa unpack how to deliver expectations with purpose, ensure follow-through, and build trust through repetition, feedback, and intentional communication. Whether it’s your first day or your fifteenth year, everyone benefits from a clear, welcoming, and empowering start.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever notice how flight attendants never skip the safety briefing, even if most passengers have flown dozens of times? That’s because when it comes to crucial information, repetition matters. In this episode, Susan and Tessa draw inspiration from the runway to the school hallway, exploring how leaders must be just as intentional when onboarding new staff or reboarding returning team members. Too often, we assume everyone remembers the playbook—shared commitments, procedures, and core values—but the truth is, clarity requires consistency. Susan and Tessa unpack how to deliver expectations with purpose, ensure follow-through, and build trust through repetition, feedback, and intentional communication. Whether it’s your first day or your fifteenth year, everyone benefits from a clear, welcoming, and empowering start.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c73ee721-07e2-4f03-9b16-877930a57613</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c73ee721-07e2-4f03-9b16-877930a57613.mp3" length="6828799" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>128</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>128</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Sitting With Silence When No One Is Applauding</title><itunes:title>Sitting With Silence When No One Is Applauding</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Applause is wonderful. But what happens when the crowd is silent? In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa unpack an article that explores how we must teach our children to be proud of themselves, not just rely on external praise. The lesson doesn’t stop with childhood. As educators and leaders, we often make quiet, powerful differences that no one sees or acknowledges. There are no trophies for staying late, solving a problem behind the scenes, or showing compassion in a tough moment, yet those are the moments that matter most. Susan and Tessa share stories and strategies to help you cultivate self-validation, quiet confidence, and inner pride. Because sometimes, the most important recognition is the one we give ourselves.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applause is wonderful. But what happens when the crowd is silent? In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa unpack an article that explores how we must teach our children to be proud of themselves, not just rely on external praise. The lesson doesn’t stop with childhood. As educators and leaders, we often make quiet, powerful differences that no one sees or acknowledges. There are no trophies for staying late, solving a problem behind the scenes, or showing compassion in a tough moment, yet those are the moments that matter most. Susan and Tessa share stories and strategies to help you cultivate self-validation, quiet confidence, and inner pride. Because sometimes, the most important recognition is the one we give ourselves.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cf8fcbbf-cc05-45e3-a7eb-d83cf4254c12</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/cf8fcbbf-cc05-45e3-a7eb-d83cf4254c12.mp3" length="5308159" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>127</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>127</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Leading with Heart?</title><itunes:title>Are You Leading with Heart?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the hustle of meetings, emails, and endless to-do lists, it's easy to lead with your head down and your heart tucked away. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it truly means to lead with heart—not through grand gestures or expensive tokens, but by creating moments of intention, empathy, and genuine connection. They dive into the power of noticing others, offering space and grace, and showing appreciation in small but meaningful ways. Leading with heart may slow the pace for a moment, but in the long run, it fuels a culture of care, belonging, and purpose. Tune in as they share stories and strategies for modeling leadership that inspires others to go above and beyond—because even the smallest "thank you" can leave the biggest mark.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the hustle of meetings, emails, and endless to-do lists, it's easy to lead with your head down and your heart tucked away. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore what it truly means to lead with heart—not through grand gestures or expensive tokens, but by creating moments of intention, empathy, and genuine connection. They dive into the power of noticing others, offering space and grace, and showing appreciation in small but meaningful ways. Leading with heart may slow the pace for a moment, but in the long run, it fuels a culture of care, belonging, and purpose. Tune in as they share stories and strategies for modeling leadership that inspires others to go above and beyond—because even the smallest "thank you" can leave the biggest mark.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5c0fc506-1d84-40ac-a82d-654de79e1bea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5c0fc506-1d84-40ac-a82d-654de79e1bea.mp3" length="4167130" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>126</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>126</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Negative People</title><itunes:title>Negative People</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when you’re surrounded by negativity? In this thoughtful episode, Susan and Tessa explore how to lead with intention when faced with negative voices in your school or workplace. They challenge the common reaction of labeling someone as a “negative person,” and instead ask, what’s really behind their outlook?</p><p>Backed by brain science and personal reflection, they share how consistently viewing someone in a negative light creates neural pathways that can lock in our perception—and theirs. But as leaders, we have the power to shift the narrative. With positive reinforcement, curiosity, and compassion, we can help others move from resistance to reflection.</p><p>You’ll hear scripted strategies and phrases to help navigate tough conversations, create a space for respectful venting, and offer support without letting negativity derail your culture. Not every concern is opposition, and not every question is a challenge. Sometimes, it’s just someone wanting to be heard.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when you’re surrounded by negativity? In this thoughtful episode, Susan and Tessa explore how to lead with intention when faced with negative voices in your school or workplace. They challenge the common reaction of labeling someone as a “negative person,” and instead ask, what’s really behind their outlook?</p><p>Backed by brain science and personal reflection, they share how consistently viewing someone in a negative light creates neural pathways that can lock in our perception—and theirs. But as leaders, we have the power to shift the narrative. With positive reinforcement, curiosity, and compassion, we can help others move from resistance to reflection.</p><p>You’ll hear scripted strategies and phrases to help navigate tough conversations, create a space for respectful venting, and offer support without letting negativity derail your culture. Not every concern is opposition, and not every question is a challenge. Sometimes, it’s just someone wanting to be heard.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a5e75fa5-0389-4a91-a9c5-1d8907cb68cd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a5e75fa5-0389-4a91-a9c5-1d8907cb68cd.mp3" length="6489939" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>125</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>125</podcast:episode></item><item><title>People Will Always Try to Push Your Buttons</title><itunes:title>People Will Always Try to Push Your Buttons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ever feel like someone is deliberately trying to get under your skin? In this eye-opening episode, Susan and Tessa explore the emotional landmines of leadership—those moments when students, staff, or parents seem to poke at every nerve. But what if it's not really about you at all?</p><p>Using the powerful quote from Conscious Discipline, “It’s happening in front of me, it’s not about me,” they break down how to shift from reactive to reflective. Are we misreading the moment? Are we absorbing someone else’s emotional storm? One of us will be contagious in a heated exchange—so who do we want that to be?</p><p>Through personal stories, emotional insight, and practical strategies, Susan and Tessa walk you through ways to regulate your responses, build boundaries, and create space for calm in the chaos. Because sometimes, the strongest leadership move is choosing not to react.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever feel like someone is deliberately trying to get under your skin? In this eye-opening episode, Susan and Tessa explore the emotional landmines of leadership—those moments when students, staff, or parents seem to poke at every nerve. But what if it's not really about you at all?</p><p>Using the powerful quote from Conscious Discipline, “It’s happening in front of me, it’s not about me,” they break down how to shift from reactive to reflective. Are we misreading the moment? Are we absorbing someone else’s emotional storm? One of us will be contagious in a heated exchange—so who do we want that to be?</p><p>Through personal stories, emotional insight, and practical strategies, Susan and Tessa walk you through ways to regulate your responses, build boundaries, and create space for calm in the chaos. Because sometimes, the strongest leadership move is choosing not to react.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aa1f2c94-da19-41bd-a968-59864590e04d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/aa1f2c94-da19-41bd-a968-59864590e04d.mp3" length="6992117" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:43</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>124</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>124</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Hidden Grief of Leadership</title><itunes:title>The Hidden Grief of Leadership</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>No one really talks about the quiet grief that comes with stepping into leadership—until now. In this reflective and deeply human episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the often-unspoken losses that accompany a leadership title. One day you’re a peer, the next you’re “one of them.” Relationships shift. Conversations grow cautious. Trust must be re-earned, and suddenly, you’re standing in a space between connection and authority.</p><p>Together, they explore the internal and external changes that happen the moment a leadership role is assumed—how you’re seen, how your words carry weight, and how friendships may fade or shift in tone. It’s a disorienting transition, and most leaders are expected to process it quickly, if at all.</p><p>This conversation gives space to grieve what was lost, honor what’s evolving, and offer compassion to yourself in the process. Because in order to lead with clarity and courage, we first need to acknowledge the quiet emotional toll that leadership can take.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one really talks about the quiet grief that comes with stepping into leadership—until now. In this reflective and deeply human episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the often-unspoken losses that accompany a leadership title. One day you’re a peer, the next you’re “one of them.” Relationships shift. Conversations grow cautious. Trust must be re-earned, and suddenly, you’re standing in a space between connection and authority.</p><p>Together, they explore the internal and external changes that happen the moment a leadership role is assumed—how you’re seen, how your words carry weight, and how friendships may fade or shift in tone. It’s a disorienting transition, and most leaders are expected to process it quickly, if at all.</p><p>This conversation gives space to grieve what was lost, honor what’s evolving, and offer compassion to yourself in the process. Because in order to lead with clarity and courage, we first need to acknowledge the quiet emotional toll that leadership can take.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">94a7d9e4-2b42-4e1b-a58e-dc5349846c69</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/94a7d9e4-2b42-4e1b-a58e-dc5349846c69.mp3" length="7331604" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>123</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>123</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Have Bullies in the Workplace?</title><itunes:title>Do You Have Bullies in the Workplace?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the school hallways aren’t the only places where bullying happens. In this honest and vulnerable episode, Susan and Tessa recount personal experiences where they were made to feel small—times they were belittled, called out publicly, or dismissed in ways that cut deep. These moments don’t just sting, they raise critical questions about how we handle adult-to-adult disrespect in our schools and organizations.</p><p>Drawing inspiration from communication expert Jefferson Fischer, they explore practical ways to respond when a colleague crosses the line. From calm but firm responses to situational strategies, Tessa offers language that helps leaders navigate uncomfortable moments without escalating them. They also stress the importance of following HR and district policies while upholding a culture of psychological safety.</p><p>Leadership requires empathy, but not at the expense of allowing someone to bulldoze their way through interactions. This episode is a call to protect your staff, honor every voice at the table, and ensure that assertiveness never comes at the cost of someone else's dignity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the school hallways aren’t the only places where bullying happens. In this honest and vulnerable episode, Susan and Tessa recount personal experiences where they were made to feel small—times they were belittled, called out publicly, or dismissed in ways that cut deep. These moments don’t just sting, they raise critical questions about how we handle adult-to-adult disrespect in our schools and organizations.</p><p>Drawing inspiration from communication expert Jefferson Fischer, they explore practical ways to respond when a colleague crosses the line. From calm but firm responses to situational strategies, Tessa offers language that helps leaders navigate uncomfortable moments without escalating them. They also stress the importance of following HR and district policies while upholding a culture of psychological safety.</p><p>Leadership requires empathy, but not at the expense of allowing someone to bulldoze their way through interactions. This episode is a call to protect your staff, honor every voice at the table, and ensure that assertiveness never comes at the cost of someone else's dignity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2e517b77-fe4d-4e10-a4b1-375341649531</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2e517b77-fe4d-4e10-a4b1-375341649531.mp3" length="8722468" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>122</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>122</podcast:episode></item><item><title>To Notice or Not to Notice</title><itunes:title>To Notice or Not to Notice</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do we truly see what’s right in front of us? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack a common leadership tendency—focusing on what’s broken instead of what’s blooming. When we're constantly scanning for problems to solve, we can overlook the small wins, positive behaviors, and daily efforts that keep our schools moving forward.</p><p>What if we shifted our lens? What if we made it a habit to catch people doing the right thing, to write a quick note of appreciation, or to give a specific shout-out during a team meeting? Susan and Tessa reflect on how those intentional moments of recognition can have a far greater impact than we realize. They share the quote, “When people feel they matter, they show up with purpose, passion, and the power to make a difference,” as a call to action for leaders to celebrate the good.</p><p>This episode is a reminder that our words hold weight, and that noticing others, truly noticing them, can create a powerful ripple effect in your school culture. Your staff wants to feel seen, heard, and valued. Let’s start there.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we truly see what’s right in front of us? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack a common leadership tendency—focusing on what’s broken instead of what’s blooming. When we're constantly scanning for problems to solve, we can overlook the small wins, positive behaviors, and daily efforts that keep our schools moving forward.</p><p>What if we shifted our lens? What if we made it a habit to catch people doing the right thing, to write a quick note of appreciation, or to give a specific shout-out during a team meeting? Susan and Tessa reflect on how those intentional moments of recognition can have a far greater impact than we realize. They share the quote, “When people feel they matter, they show up with purpose, passion, and the power to make a difference,” as a call to action for leaders to celebrate the good.</p><p>This episode is a reminder that our words hold weight, and that noticing others, truly noticing them, can create a powerful ripple effect in your school culture. Your staff wants to feel seen, heard, and valued. Let’s start there.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f1080224-a9f3-4aa3-8a5a-aedee942770d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f1080224-a9f3-4aa3-8a5a-aedee942770d.mp3" length="5018513" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>121</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>121</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Acquiring New Skills</title><itunes:title>Acquiring New Skills</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Think back to learning how to drive. You may have watched from the passenger seat, played racing video games, or confidently ridden the Cars attraction at Disneyland. But none of those experiences truly prepared you for the real thing, such as navigating traffic, understanding right-of-way, or parallel parking under pressure. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how that learning curve mirrors the journey of leadership.</p><p>They reflect on the early stage of being unconsciously incompetent, when we don't even realize what we don’t know. Much like a new driver, new leaders often assume they are ready simply because they have observed others in the role. However, once immersed in the day-to-day demands, they quickly learn that leadership requires a whole new set of skills, awareness, and resilience. Susan and Tessa share honest examples of their own early missteps and explain the real stages of acquiring new skills.</p><p>Whether you're fumbling through your first staff meeting or trying to model leadership you have never personally experienced, this episode offers encouragement and clarity. Growth takes time, and every mistake is a valuable part of the process.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think back to learning how to drive. You may have watched from the passenger seat, played racing video games, or confidently ridden the Cars attraction at Disneyland. But none of those experiences truly prepared you for the real thing, such as navigating traffic, understanding right-of-way, or parallel parking under pressure. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how that learning curve mirrors the journey of leadership.</p><p>They reflect on the early stage of being unconsciously incompetent, when we don't even realize what we don’t know. Much like a new driver, new leaders often assume they are ready simply because they have observed others in the role. However, once immersed in the day-to-day demands, they quickly learn that leadership requires a whole new set of skills, awareness, and resilience. Susan and Tessa share honest examples of their own early missteps and explain the real stages of acquiring new skills.</p><p>Whether you're fumbling through your first staff meeting or trying to model leadership you have never personally experienced, this episode offers encouragement and clarity. Growth takes time, and every mistake is a valuable part of the process.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">372ffd5f-080d-44b8-93b8-629b99e77af9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/372ffd5f-080d-44b8-93b8-629b99e77af9.mp3" length="7671770" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>120</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>120</podcast:episode></item><item><title>No Guilt</title><itunes:title>No Guilt</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Leadership comes with many rewards but also with a heavy cost: time. In this honest and heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa open up about the guilt that often shadows school leaders as they juggle long hours, late-night events, and emotionally taxing decisions, all while trying to be present for the people they love most. From missing family dinners to feeling mentally drained at home, they share their personal stories of guilt and grace. But this conversation isn’t about shame—it’s about reclaiming intentionality. Susan and Tessa explore how to appreciate the moments you <em>do</em> have, how to set boundaries without guilt, and how to extend compassion toward yourself while still showing up for others. You’re not alone in this balancing act, and you don’t have to carry the guilt to prove you care.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership comes with many rewards but also with a heavy cost: time. In this honest and heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa open up about the guilt that often shadows school leaders as they juggle long hours, late-night events, and emotionally taxing decisions, all while trying to be present for the people they love most. From missing family dinners to feeling mentally drained at home, they share their personal stories of guilt and grace. But this conversation isn’t about shame—it’s about reclaiming intentionality. Susan and Tessa explore how to appreciate the moments you <em>do</em> have, how to set boundaries without guilt, and how to extend compassion toward yourself while still showing up for others. You’re not alone in this balancing act, and you don’t have to carry the guilt to prove you care.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">91cd9a90-a16d-477b-bead-e15c18e3d1e1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/91cd9a90-a16d-477b-bead-e15c18e3d1e1.mp3" length="5652975" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>119</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>119</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Eye Rolling</title><itunes:title>Eye Rolling</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>A sigh, a smirk, a well-timed eye roll are all silent cues, which can speak volumes about a workplace culture. In this episode, Tessa kicks things off with a story that many of us have witnessed: a cashier fumbling through a transaction, surrounded by silent judgment—until one teammate steps in with empathy and calm. Susan and Tessa dive into the powerful ripple effect of small acts of support versus subtle (or not-so-subtle) disrespect. They ask the hard question: Who do we want to be, together? As leaders, it’s not about forcing friendship but creating a culture of decency, trust, and shared expectations. Because eight hours a day is too long to spend in an environment where unkindness is the norm. This conversation is a reminder that leadership starts with how we treat the person right in front of us.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sigh, a smirk, a well-timed eye roll are all silent cues, which can speak volumes about a workplace culture. In this episode, Tessa kicks things off with a story that many of us have witnessed: a cashier fumbling through a transaction, surrounded by silent judgment—until one teammate steps in with empathy and calm. Susan and Tessa dive into the powerful ripple effect of small acts of support versus subtle (or not-so-subtle) disrespect. They ask the hard question: Who do we want to be, together? As leaders, it’s not about forcing friendship but creating a culture of decency, trust, and shared expectations. Because eight hours a day is too long to spend in an environment where unkindness is the norm. This conversation is a reminder that leadership starts with how we treat the person right in front of us.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">78a363e4-a62f-441e-a069-24437ad8c399</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/78a363e4-a62f-441e-a069-24437ad8c399.mp3" length="7156479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>118</podcast:episode></item><item><title>If You See Something, Say Something</title><itunes:title>If You See Something, Say Something</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What if the most powerful leadership move you make today is simply noticing? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack what happens when we move past assumptions and lean into compassion. When a colleague hasn’t smiled in months, do we write them off—or do we pause and ask why? Through real stories and reflective dialogue, they explore how leaders can create emotionally connected environments by asking intentional questions, listening without judgment, and refusing to let anyone feel invisible. This conversation is a call to notice, to reach out, and to remember that sometimes, being seen is the first step to healing.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the most powerful leadership move you make today is simply noticing? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack what happens when we move past assumptions and lean into compassion. When a colleague hasn’t smiled in months, do we write them off—or do we pause and ask why? Through real stories and reflective dialogue, they explore how leaders can create emotionally connected environments by asking intentional questions, listening without judgment, and refusing to let anyone feel invisible. This conversation is a call to notice, to reach out, and to remember that sometimes, being seen is the first step to healing.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">eb24560e-0039-448b-8297-66a0ddaa1f06</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/eb24560e-0039-448b-8297-66a0ddaa1f06.mp3" length="5524662" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>117</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>117</podcast:episode></item><item><title>I Don&apos;t Know</title><itunes:title>I Don&apos;t Know</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this honest and empowering episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the fear many young leaders have of admitting, "I don't know." Early in leadership, we often feel pressure to have all the answers, hiding our uncertainties out of fear, ego, or insecurity. But the truth is, we don't know what we don't know—and that's okay. Susan and Tessa explore how to create a culture where vulnerability is seen as strength, questions are welcomed, and growth is celebrated. This conversation encourages leaders to embrace the courage it takes to ask for help, admit when you're unsure, and lean on collaboration as a powerful leadership tool.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this honest and empowering episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the fear many young leaders have of admitting, "I don't know." Early in leadership, we often feel pressure to have all the answers, hiding our uncertainties out of fear, ego, or insecurity. But the truth is, we don't know what we don't know—and that's okay. Susan and Tessa explore how to create a culture where vulnerability is seen as strength, questions are welcomed, and growth is celebrated. This conversation encourages leaders to embrace the courage it takes to ask for help, admit when you're unsure, and lean on collaboration as a powerful leadership tool.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">724d7153-f82b-43f6-8888-0a8313cf9330</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/724d7153-f82b-43f6-8888-0a8313cf9330.mp3" length="5861119" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>116</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Lessons from a First Responder</title><itunes:title>Lessons from a First Responder</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa dive into leadership insights inspired by Eric Danetz’s article highlighting four essential lessons from first responders. As school leaders, it can often feel like we’re constantly putting out fires, reacting to chaos, and managing emergencies on the fly. But how can we lead like a first responder with the important qualities, such as being steady, prepared, and effective under pressure? Susan and Tessa explore the importance of delegating and empowering your team, maintaining focus in the midst of crisis, building trust so the load is shared, and staying flexible as the unexpected unfolds. Whether you're navigating a typical day or responding to a high-stakes situation, these lessons will help every leader stay grounded and lead with confidence.</p><p>Eric Danetz's Article: <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/91309205/im-a-volunteer-ems-first-responder-heres-how-its-made-me-a-better-leader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fastcompany.com/91309205/im-a-volunteer-ems-first-responder-heres-how-its-made-me-a-better-leader</a></p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa dive into leadership insights inspired by Eric Danetz’s article highlighting four essential lessons from first responders. As school leaders, it can often feel like we’re constantly putting out fires, reacting to chaos, and managing emergencies on the fly. But how can we lead like a first responder with the important qualities, such as being steady, prepared, and effective under pressure? Susan and Tessa explore the importance of delegating and empowering your team, maintaining focus in the midst of crisis, building trust so the load is shared, and staying flexible as the unexpected unfolds. Whether you're navigating a typical day or responding to a high-stakes situation, these lessons will help every leader stay grounded and lead with confidence.</p><p>Eric Danetz's Article: <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/91309205/im-a-volunteer-ems-first-responder-heres-how-its-made-me-a-better-leader" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fastcompany.com/91309205/im-a-volunteer-ems-first-responder-heres-how-its-made-me-a-better-leader</a></p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6c44798d-5210-443b-8c36-560944f31baf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/6c44798d-5210-443b-8c36-560944f31baf.mp3" length="4811153" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>115</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Accountability Isn&apos;t Micromanaging</title><itunes:title>Accountability Isn&apos;t Micromanaging</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this important conversation, Susan and Tessa unpack the common leadership dilemma—how to hold others accountable without being labeled a micromanager. They explore what happens when leaders avoid addressing issues like tardiness or dress code violations out of fear of overstepping. Drawing from Brene Brown’s wisdom, “Clear is kind,” they emphasize that clarity in expectations is not only kind, but necessary for a healthy culture. They discuss how accountability requires consistent communication, supportive follow-up, and the willingness to ask questions rather than make assumptions. Sometimes what appears as misbehavior is actually a gap in understanding or skill. Don’t get stuck in the messy middle—be clear, be curious, and lead with purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this important conversation, Susan and Tessa unpack the common leadership dilemma—how to hold others accountable without being labeled a micromanager. They explore what happens when leaders avoid addressing issues like tardiness or dress code violations out of fear of overstepping. Drawing from Brene Brown’s wisdom, “Clear is kind,” they emphasize that clarity in expectations is not only kind, but necessary for a healthy culture. They discuss how accountability requires consistent communication, supportive follow-up, and the willingness to ask questions rather than make assumptions. Sometimes what appears as misbehavior is actually a gap in understanding or skill. Don’t get stuck in the messy middle—be clear, be curious, and lead with purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">33fba220-2194-4cd9-b45b-a03d9a909433</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/33fba220-2194-4cd9-b45b-a03d9a909433.mp3" length="7275702" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>114</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Half Full or Half Empty</title><itunes:title>Half Full or Half Empty</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa explore how our outlook, positive or negative, impacts our mindset, our leadership, and our daily productivity. Tessa shares how negativity often becomes our default setting, especially when one frustrating moment overshadows an otherwise good day. They discuss how our brains can trick us into thinking things are worse than they are, and why exercising the “positivity muscle” takes intentional effort. With the strategy “the story we tell ourselves,” leaders can begin to regulate their thoughts, shift perspectives, and build a more optimistic and effective leadership mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa explore how our outlook, positive or negative, impacts our mindset, our leadership, and our daily productivity. Tessa shares how negativity often becomes our default setting, especially when one frustrating moment overshadows an otherwise good day. They discuss how our brains can trick us into thinking things are worse than they are, and why exercising the “positivity muscle” takes intentional effort. With the strategy “the story we tell ourselves,” leaders can begin to regulate their thoughts, shift perspectives, and build a more optimistic and effective leadership mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">074507b6-5ee5-4634-8d19-95d486c9d273</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/074507b6-5ee5-4634-8d19-95d486c9d273.mp3" length="4653530" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>113</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Everything is Figure-Out-Able</title><itunes:title>Everything is Figure-Out-Able</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this encouraging episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a concept from Tessa’s latest article—“Figure-out-able.” As leaders, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed and fall into a spiral of doubt when challenges seem unsolvable. But with a shift in mindset, regulation strategies, and a little patience, even the toughest situations can be worked through. Susan and Tessa remind us that solutions often exist right beyond the frustration, and with time, effort, and intentional thinking, everything truly is figure-out-able.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this encouraging episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a concept from Tessa’s latest article—“Figure-out-able.” As leaders, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed and fall into a spiral of doubt when challenges seem unsolvable. But with a shift in mindset, regulation strategies, and a little patience, even the toughest situations can be worked through. Susan and Tessa remind us that solutions often exist right beyond the frustration, and with time, effort, and intentional thinking, everything truly is figure-out-able.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">866a0329-671c-478f-a12c-c54b90332a35</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/866a0329-671c-478f-a12c-c54b90332a35.mp3" length="4882781" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>112</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Reboot</title><itunes:title>Reboot</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As the school year winds down, it’s easy to feel like hitting a quick reset button and moving on—but real growth requires more than a simple reboot. In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa invite leaders to pause and truly assess the past year. Whether you faced scheduling frustrations, saw little movement in school culture, or neglected your own well-being, now is the time to stop, reflect, and re-align. Instead of rebooting like a computer, they outline intentional strategies to close the year with clarity and purpose, setting yourself and your team up for meaningful change in the year ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the school year winds down, it’s easy to feel like hitting a quick reset button and moving on—but real growth requires more than a simple reboot. In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa invite leaders to pause and truly assess the past year. Whether you faced scheduling frustrations, saw little movement in school culture, or neglected your own well-being, now is the time to stop, reflect, and re-align. Instead of rebooting like a computer, they outline intentional strategies to close the year with clarity and purpose, setting yourself and your team up for meaningful change in the year ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">374c4dc4-ddb2-4e04-b046-cc9ba57b444e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/374c4dc4-ddb2-4e04-b046-cc9ba57b444e.mp3" length="5520639" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>111</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Do You Do When You Are Uncertain?</title><itunes:title>What Do You Do When You Are Uncertain?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In moments of uncertainty, it’s easy for leaders to spiral into the “what if” cycle, losing focus and direction. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the realities of leading when the future feels unclear and distractions are everywhere. They explore how to be intentional with your energy, how to redirect your mindset, and how to focus on what you can control. With thoughtful reflection and practical insight, they challenge listeners to pause, prioritize what matters most, and step forward with purpose, even when the path isn’t fully visible.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In moments of uncertainty, it’s easy for leaders to spiral into the “what if” cycle, losing focus and direction. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the realities of leading when the future feels unclear and distractions are everywhere. They explore how to be intentional with your energy, how to redirect your mindset, and how to focus on what you can control. With thoughtful reflection and practical insight, they challenge listeners to pause, prioritize what matters most, and step forward with purpose, even when the path isn’t fully visible.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8fa21d8b-5038-4fcc-99be-9980f313818a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/8fa21d8b-5038-4fcc-99be-9980f313818a.mp3" length="4750445" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>110</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>110</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Gifts of Wisdom From Our Two Favorite Leaders-our moms!</title><itunes:title>Gifts of Wisdom From Our Two Favorite Leaders-our moms!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">922d1662-7c5d-470d-99ab-ff781c96f379</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/922d1662-7c5d-470d-99ab-ff781c96f379.mp3" length="9219473" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>109</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>109</podcast:episode></item><item><title>This is Heavy</title><itunes:title>This is Heavy</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa explore the emotional weight so many of us carry, both seen and unseen, in our daily roles as educators and leaders. Inspired by Tessa’s recent article, they dive into the metaphor of the “backpack” we all wear, filled with stress, responsibility, and personal challenges. Tessa shares a personal story about stepping into a leadership role for a committee and feeling the sting of silence after a high-stakes meeting. That moment of being unacknowledged shifted her perspective on how often we overlook others' efforts. As leaders, we must recognize the emotional labor around us, take time to see people, express appreciation, and lighten each other’s loads with kindness and presence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa explore the emotional weight so many of us carry, both seen and unseen, in our daily roles as educators and leaders. Inspired by Tessa’s recent article, they dive into the metaphor of the “backpack” we all wear, filled with stress, responsibility, and personal challenges. Tessa shares a personal story about stepping into a leadership role for a committee and feeling the sting of silence after a high-stakes meeting. That moment of being unacknowledged shifted her perspective on how often we overlook others' efforts. As leaders, we must recognize the emotional labor around us, take time to see people, express appreciation, and lighten each other’s loads with kindness and presence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e573fd87-af22-4212-8da4-30b534dd9504</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e573fd87-af22-4212-8da4-30b534dd9504.mp3" length="4572133" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>108</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Why?</title><itunes:title>Why?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan shares a sweet and funny moment with her granddaughter, who has entered the “Why?” phase of childhood, responding to every request with that simple, yet profound question. While it may be endearing, and occasionally exhausting, this moment leads Susan and Tessa into a meaningful conversation about leadership and how we respond to the same question in our professional roles.</p><p>As leaders, we sometimes interpret “Why?” as pushback or disrespect, triggering defensiveness or frustration. But what if we viewed it differently? Susan and Tessa explore how approaching this question with curiosity, instead of judgment, can open the door to greater clarity, communication, and connection. Tune in to reflect on the power of “Why?”, not just as a question, but as a mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan shares a sweet and funny moment with her granddaughter, who has entered the “Why?” phase of childhood, responding to every request with that simple, yet profound question. While it may be endearing, and occasionally exhausting, this moment leads Susan and Tessa into a meaningful conversation about leadership and how we respond to the same question in our professional roles.</p><p>As leaders, we sometimes interpret “Why?” as pushback or disrespect, triggering defensiveness or frustration. But what if we viewed it differently? Susan and Tessa explore how approaching this question with curiosity, instead of judgment, can open the door to greater clarity, communication, and connection. Tune in to reflect on the power of “Why?”, not just as a question, but as a mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f484b787-1e05-4c91-ad11-422794c15202</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f484b787-1e05-4c91-ad11-422794c15202.mp3" length="5431039" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>107</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Sunday Blues</title><itunes:title>The Sunday Blues</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever feel a heaviness settle in as Sunday winds down? In this episode, Susan and Tessa open up about the all-too-common "Sunday Blues"—that anxious feeling as the week ahead begins to take over your thoughts. From staff meetings and to-do lists to tough conversations and deadlines, the mental load of leadership can make Sunday feel more overwhelming than restful.</p><p>Susan and Tessa share simple, practical strategies to ease the transition into the week, including planning ahead, prioritizing rest, staying hydrated, prepping meals, and establishing healthy routines. They remind us that we don’t have to do everything—just trying one new habit can make a big difference. This episode is all about creating space for calm, clarity, and confidence before Monday arrives.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever feel a heaviness settle in as Sunday winds down? In this episode, Susan and Tessa open up about the all-too-common "Sunday Blues"—that anxious feeling as the week ahead begins to take over your thoughts. From staff meetings and to-do lists to tough conversations and deadlines, the mental load of leadership can make Sunday feel more overwhelming than restful.</p><p>Susan and Tessa share simple, practical strategies to ease the transition into the week, including planning ahead, prioritizing rest, staying hydrated, prepping meals, and establishing healthy routines. They remind us that we don’t have to do everything—just trying one new habit can make a big difference. This episode is all about creating space for calm, clarity, and confidence before Monday arrives.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b217ac08-25fa-4721-8595-cab158823b58</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b217ac08-25fa-4721-8595-cab158823b58.mp3" length="4813713" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>106</podcast:episode></item><item><title>It Was an Accidental Take Over</title><itunes:title>It Was an Accidental Take Over</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes as leaders, our enthusiasm can unintentionally overshadow others. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a story from Tessa’s recent newsletter blog about leading a staff birthday celebration and realizing afterward that she had inadvertently taken over the event, leaving little room for others to contribute.</p><p>Tessa shares her reflections on the experience and the importance of being mindful about sharing leadership moments with your team. Together, Susan and Tessa explore how good intentions don’t always land perfectly, why it's important to create space for others, and how leadership is just as much about collaboration as it is about initiative.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes as leaders, our enthusiasm can unintentionally overshadow others. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a story from Tessa’s recent newsletter blog about leading a staff birthday celebration and realizing afterward that she had inadvertently taken over the event, leaving little room for others to contribute.</p><p>Tessa shares her reflections on the experience and the importance of being mindful about sharing leadership moments with your team. Together, Susan and Tessa explore how good intentions don’t always land perfectly, why it's important to create space for others, and how leadership is just as much about collaboration as it is about initiative.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ca01fb49-d61e-460f-95d3-6e074b4a86ae</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2bf077f8-4867-4aef-b53a-e30e0c980f8a/It-Was-an-Accidental-Take-Over-converted.mp3" length="4332067" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>105</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Act As If...</title><itunes:title>Act As If...</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What does it really mean to “fake it till you make it” in leadership? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the phrase and explore the balance between confidence and authenticity. As new leaders, it's common to step into roles without having all the answers—so how do we navigate that tension without feeling like a fraud?</p><p>Tessa shares the powerful quote, “Set your goals so high, you have to become the person to achieve them,” framing the discussion around pushing through imposter syndrome, embracing the learning curve, and leaning into growth.</p><p>Together, they explore how “acting as if” isn’t about being fake, it’s about trying on new habits, building confidence, and believing in your potential before you fully see it. Because if you can visualize it, you’re already one step closer to becoming it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it really mean to “fake it till you make it” in leadership? In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the phrase and explore the balance between confidence and authenticity. As new leaders, it's common to step into roles without having all the answers—so how do we navigate that tension without feeling like a fraud?</p><p>Tessa shares the powerful quote, “Set your goals so high, you have to become the person to achieve them,” framing the discussion around pushing through imposter syndrome, embracing the learning curve, and leaning into growth.</p><p>Together, they explore how “acting as if” isn’t about being fake, it’s about trying on new habits, building confidence, and believing in your potential before you fully see it. Because if you can visualize it, you’re already one step closer to becoming it.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b77ad43a-50fd-485c-87ce-ca5f436de08b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/de987cbc-9ae3-402f-9021-460385f8944d/Act-as-If-converted.mp3" length="4786233" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>104</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Blame Game</title><itunes:title>The Blame Game</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, it can feel like no matter what decision you make—someone will be upset. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the all-too-familiar “Blame Game,” where staff, students, or parents point fingers, and leaders are left carrying the weight. They unpack how blame can trigger defensiveness, shut down healthy communication, and block opportunities for growth. Instead of spiraling into guilt or frustration, they offer strategies to shift from blame to reflection—turning tension into teachable moments.</p><p>Susan and Tessa explore how constructive feedback, backed by evidence and rooted in trust, paves the way for progress. No one is perfect, and leadership isn’t about always getting it right—it’s about being open, honest, and committed to learning.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, it can feel like no matter what decision you make—someone will be upset. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the all-too-familiar “Blame Game,” where staff, students, or parents point fingers, and leaders are left carrying the weight. They unpack how blame can trigger defensiveness, shut down healthy communication, and block opportunities for growth. Instead of spiraling into guilt or frustration, they offer strategies to shift from blame to reflection—turning tension into teachable moments.</p><p>Susan and Tessa explore how constructive feedback, backed by evidence and rooted in trust, paves the way for progress. No one is perfect, and leadership isn’t about always getting it right—it’s about being open, honest, and committed to learning.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6f7ccd07-ab81-4d95-9e40-b228479f1a56</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4ef92b8f-e94d-4fc3-af14-5a9eef2bdd2d/The-Blame-Game-converted.mp3" length="6038490" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>103</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Ouch, That Hurt!</title><itunes:title>Ouch, That Hurt!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Taking risks is part of leadership but what happens when the outcome stings? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a powerful article Tessa shared, sparking a vulnerable conversation about stepping into opportunity, facing rejection, and wrestling with the bruised ego that often follows.</p><p>They explore what it means to take a leap of faith, even when the results don’t go your way. From family dinner table conversations about daily risks to basketball coaches using failure as a teaching tool, Susan and Tessa offer real-world examples that remind us: growth lives on the edge of discomfort.</p><p>With the quote “What if we fail? But what if we fly?” as their anchor, they reflect on how leaders can normalize risk-taking, learn from mistakes, and most importantly, separate failure from identity. This episode is an honest, encouraging look at how we fail forward and why that’s a leadership strength.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking risks is part of leadership but what happens when the outcome stings? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into a powerful article Tessa shared, sparking a vulnerable conversation about stepping into opportunity, facing rejection, and wrestling with the bruised ego that often follows.</p><p>They explore what it means to take a leap of faith, even when the results don’t go your way. From family dinner table conversations about daily risks to basketball coaches using failure as a teaching tool, Susan and Tessa offer real-world examples that remind us: growth lives on the edge of discomfort.</p><p>With the quote “What if we fail? But what if we fly?” as their anchor, they reflect on how leaders can normalize risk-taking, learn from mistakes, and most importantly, separate failure from identity. This episode is an honest, encouraging look at how we fail forward and why that’s a leadership strength.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3fcf8c12-a7ee-40f7-a911-61567709967b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/13237e0b-cf3f-417b-842c-e34d7ad7bda9/Ouch-That-Hurt-converted.mp3" length="6254627" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>102</podcast:episode></item><item><title>We Made It to 100!</title><itunes:title>We Made It to 100!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>It’s a celebration! In this milestone episode, Susan and Tessa reflect on the incredible journey to 100 episodes and express heartfelt gratitude to the people who helped make it all possible—family, friends, special guests, and most importantly, you, the listeners.</p><p>They pull back the curtain to share behind-the-scenes stories, lessons learned along the way, and what it’s really been like building a podcast centered on real leadership conversations. You’ll hear how the show started, why it continues, and the vision moving forward. Packed with laughter, appreciation, and reflection, this episode honors the community that’s grown around their shared mission—to equip and empower leaders through stories, strategies, and heart. Here's to 100 episodes and many more to come!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a celebration! In this milestone episode, Susan and Tessa reflect on the incredible journey to 100 episodes and express heartfelt gratitude to the people who helped make it all possible—family, friends, special guests, and most importantly, you, the listeners.</p><p>They pull back the curtain to share behind-the-scenes stories, lessons learned along the way, and what it’s really been like building a podcast centered on real leadership conversations. You’ll hear how the show started, why it continues, and the vision moving forward. Packed with laughter, appreciation, and reflection, this episode honors the community that’s grown around their shared mission—to equip and empower leaders through stories, strategies, and heart. Here's to 100 episodes and many more to come!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">da57e05d-664c-4d9d-9579-835d42880ad2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bb29702c-7f42-498c-9987-87bb51062048/We-made-it-to-100-converted.mp3" length="5766765" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>101</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>101</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Reasons and Seasons</title><itunes:title>Reasons and Seasons</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Not every "no" is the end of the road. In fact, it might just be the redirection you needed. In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa kick off the conversation with a personal story about a missed opportunity that, at the time, felt like failure. Susan shares what it was like to not receive a position she deeply wanted, only to discover later that something even better was waiting.</p><p>Together, they explore the concept of “reasons and seasons”—how certain setbacks are part of a bigger plan for growth and alignment. They discuss how to reflect, reframe, and refocus after disappointment, reminding leaders to be open to new doors, take bold leaps, and keep pursuing their goals with grit and grace. With insights on overcoming negative self-talk and embracing rejection as redirection, this episode is a powerful reminder that sometimes the best things come from what didn’t go our way.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not every "no" is the end of the road. In fact, it might just be the redirection you needed. In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa kick off the conversation with a personal story about a missed opportunity that, at the time, felt like failure. Susan shares what it was like to not receive a position she deeply wanted, only to discover later that something even better was waiting.</p><p>Together, they explore the concept of “reasons and seasons”—how certain setbacks are part of a bigger plan for growth and alignment. They discuss how to reflect, reframe, and refocus after disappointment, reminding leaders to be open to new doors, take bold leaps, and keep pursuing their goals with grit and grace. With insights on overcoming negative self-talk and embracing rejection as redirection, this episode is a powerful reminder that sometimes the best things come from what didn’t go our way.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5784913c-717e-4f03-a99d-25b803a95552</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/70fa77c3-6cb3-4fc8-9ecd-900f52c21ae2/Reasons-and-Seasons-converted.mp3" length="5315473" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>100</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>100</podcast:episode></item><item><title>You Don’t Have to Prove Yourself to Anyone</title><itunes:title>You Don’t Have to Prove Yourself to Anyone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Leadership often comes with the pressure to perform, to be liked, and to constantly prove your worth. But what if that mindset is doing more harm than good? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into the emotional weight leaders carry when trying to be everyone’s favorite. Through stories, quotes, and hard-earned lessons, they explore how to stay grounded in your values, remain self-aware, and not let negative comments define your identity.</p><p>They also remind us of an important truth: all behavior is communication. When staff members act out or express frustration, it’s often a reflection of something deeper happening in their lives, not a direct attack on your leadership. Tune in to hear practical strategies for staying steady in the storm and leading from a place of confidence, not constant validation.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership often comes with the pressure to perform, to be liked, and to constantly prove your worth. But what if that mindset is doing more harm than good? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dig into the emotional weight leaders carry when trying to be everyone’s favorite. Through stories, quotes, and hard-earned lessons, they explore how to stay grounded in your values, remain self-aware, and not let negative comments define your identity.</p><p>They also remind us of an important truth: all behavior is communication. When staff members act out or express frustration, it’s often a reflection of something deeper happening in their lives, not a direct attack on your leadership. Tune in to hear practical strategies for staying steady in the storm and leading from a place of confidence, not constant validation.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e9a67bac-bcf2-4b08-9f19-a018ed7bd5ab</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cd0bee56-3ba2-4d55-9d77-752380a916c7/You-Don-t-Have-to-Prove-Yourself-to-Anyone-converted.mp3" length="5448227" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>99</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>99</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Two Important Words – Thank You</title><itunes:title>Two Important Words – Thank You</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the fast-paced world of leadership, it’s easy to overlook the power of two simple words: <em>Thank you.</em> But do they really matter? Shouldn’t staff just do their jobs without expecting recognition? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the significance of gratitude in the workplace and how appreciation (or the lack of it) impacts morale, motivation, and decision-making. They share practical examples of how a well-timed <em>Thank you</em> can lift up educators, while constant criticism can create hesitation and fear. Tune in to explore how these two words can shape a more positive and energized work environment, one moment of gratitude at a time.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the fast-paced world of leadership, it’s easy to overlook the power of two simple words: <em>Thank you.</em> But do they really matter? Shouldn’t staff just do their jobs without expecting recognition? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the significance of gratitude in the workplace and how appreciation (or the lack of it) impacts morale, motivation, and decision-making. They share practical examples of how a well-timed <em>Thank you</em> can lift up educators, while constant criticism can create hesitation and fear. Tune in to explore how these two words can shape a more positive and energized work environment, one moment of gratitude at a time.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fa574940-12ef-4284-b085-012922beab7e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bfa3a277-cb25-47dc-8c6a-75e63185bc6d/Two-Important-Words-Thank-You-converted.mp3" length="7151986" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>98</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>98</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do Your Thoughts Derail You?</title><itunes:title>Do Your Thoughts Derail You?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of our thoughts with the quote, <em>"We become what we think about."</em> Susan shares a personal story about how receiving a poor medical test result affected not just her mindset but even her physical actions, which highlights how our thoughts can derail us more than reality itself. As leaders, self-doubt and negative thinking can chip away at our confidence and impact how we show up. Susan and Tessa dive into the ways our own minds hold us back and share strategies to push through mistakes, reframe negativity, and regain control of our thoughts to lead with clarity and confidence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa explore the power of our thoughts with the quote, <em>"We become what we think about."</em> Susan shares a personal story about how receiving a poor medical test result affected not just her mindset but even her physical actions, which highlights how our thoughts can derail us more than reality itself. As leaders, self-doubt and negative thinking can chip away at our confidence and impact how we show up. Susan and Tessa dive into the ways our own minds hold us back and share strategies to push through mistakes, reframe negativity, and regain control of our thoughts to lead with clarity and confidence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f7d152af-86e8-4fd0-bcef-57e60d50b6f6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/24722048-d206-4d33-a317-f583b525dc08/Do-Your-Thoughts-Derail-You-converted.mp3" length="5850148" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>97</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>97</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Devil is in the Details</title><itunes:title>The Devil is in the Details</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the chaos of leadership and the challenge of managing endless details. Using the metaphor of a snow globe, they remind us that even in the middle of a storm, the snow eventually settles. They introduce the strategy of <em>closing the loop</em> to help leaders stay on top of the details while maintaining clarity and focus. Leadership isn’t just about managing tasks—it’s about keeping track of relationships, conversations, and commitments. By developing systems to stay organized, leaders can foster a sense of belonging, build trust, and create a greater purpose in their work.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the chaos of leadership and the challenge of managing endless details. Using the metaphor of a snow globe, they remind us that even in the middle of a storm, the snow eventually settles. They introduce the strategy of <em>closing the loop</em> to help leaders stay on top of the details while maintaining clarity and focus. Leadership isn’t just about managing tasks—it’s about keeping track of relationships, conversations, and commitments. By developing systems to stay organized, leaders can foster a sense of belonging, build trust, and create a greater purpose in their work.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">35c6dee8-4c7f-40f4-b294-83fad984df7b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/11c63c43-d2b9-431a-96fc-3e3b82bc338a/The-Devil-is-in-the-Details-converted.mp3" length="6448090" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>96</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>96</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You a Professional and How do You Know?</title><itunes:title>Are You a Professional and How do You Know?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What does it truly mean to be a professional? As leaders, we often assume professionalism is understood, but it requires continuous teaching, modeling, and reinforcement. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the three pillars of professionalism and how they shape a thriving educational culture. Tessa introduces <em>The Class Tool</em>, a framework that helps educators assess their ability to create emotionally safe environments and differentiate instruction for students at various levels. They discuss the importance of balancing high expectations with a supportive atmosphere, ensuring both staff and students feel valued and empowered.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it truly mean to be a professional? As leaders, we often assume professionalism is understood, but it requires continuous teaching, modeling, and reinforcement. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the three pillars of professionalism and how they shape a thriving educational culture. Tessa introduces <em>The Class Tool</em>, a framework that helps educators assess their ability to create emotionally safe environments and differentiate instruction for students at various levels. They discuss the importance of balancing high expectations with a supportive atmosphere, ensuring both staff and students feel valued and empowered.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">569a68ab-a619-4f86-9c7b-905d3d1901ba</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fbb965a6-044f-4ef4-bde1-ba5dd1f922d1/Are-you-a-professional-and-how-do-you-know-converted.mp3" length="7655299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>95</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>95</podcast:episode></item><item><title>I Saw What You Did</title><itunes:title>I Saw What You Did</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Tessa kicks off the conversation with a story about a flight attendant who effortlessly blended playfulness, relationship-building, and firm expectations to create a positive experience for passengers. As Tessa made her way to her seat, she heard the attendant declare, “We are going to shower everyone with kindness, y’all!” This moment sparked a deeper reflection on leadership—how do we balance warmth with authority? Susan and Tessa explore how building relationships and setting expectations go hand in hand, and how leaders can use connection and authenticity to inspire trust and cooperation. Tune in for a conversation that will challenge you to lead with both heart and purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Tessa kicks off the conversation with a story about a flight attendant who effortlessly blended playfulness, relationship-building, and firm expectations to create a positive experience for passengers. As Tessa made her way to her seat, she heard the attendant declare, “We are going to shower everyone with kindness, y’all!” This moment sparked a deeper reflection on leadership—how do we balance warmth with authority? Susan and Tessa explore how building relationships and setting expectations go hand in hand, and how leaders can use connection and authenticity to inspire trust and cooperation. Tune in for a conversation that will challenge you to lead with both heart and purpose.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2db4bc0a-7de2-4670-9975-bc22d6ed52d4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0d0e8d7d-8355-4283-ba44-9df7099083bd/I-Saw-What-You-Did-converted.mp3" length="6965158" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>94</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>94</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You a Leader Others Want to Follow?</title><itunes:title>Are You a Leader Others Want to Follow?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Leadership is tough, and every day presents new challenges. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into what it means to be a “diamond leader” by exploring the qualities that make leaders worth following. They discuss the importance of trust, honesty, and grace while acknowledging that no one is perfect. If we’re not careful, our actions can harm relationships and school culture, making it even more crucial to show up intentionally for our staff, students, and community. Everyone is watching, and how we lead matters. Tune in for an honest conversation about bringing your best self to leadership every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership is tough, and every day presents new challenges. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into what it means to be a “diamond leader” by exploring the qualities that make leaders worth following. They discuss the importance of trust, honesty, and grace while acknowledging that no one is perfect. If we’re not careful, our actions can harm relationships and school culture, making it even more crucial to show up intentionally for our staff, students, and community. Everyone is watching, and how we lead matters. Tune in for an honest conversation about bringing your best self to leadership every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3f59f95a-b19c-4d9d-bb01-cde0d827a1bc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/07aa9fbb-90e7-4c0b-b553-45b08358d751/Are-you-a-leader-that-others-would-want-to-follow-converted.mp3" length="5124205" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>93</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>93</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Silence Is Golden</title><itunes:title>Silence Is Golden</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As a new leader, knowing when to speak up and when to stay silent can be a challenge. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the struggles of stepping into leadership and the pressure to share ideas, give input, or voice objections. They discuss how silence, observation, and assessment can be some of the most powerful tools for a young leader. Sometimes the best way to lead is to listen first. Tune in for insights on navigating leadership with patience, strategy, and confidence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a new leader, knowing when to speak up and when to stay silent can be a challenge. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the struggles of stepping into leadership and the pressure to share ideas, give input, or voice objections. They discuss how silence, observation, and assessment can be some of the most powerful tools for a young leader. Sometimes the best way to lead is to listen first. Tune in for insights on navigating leadership with patience, strategy, and confidence.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c72aaeb9-d24e-4b6a-a4e8-96a1f0b16b6e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d5163ed2-5a04-4bba-854e-dfd3b2019c65/Silence-is-Golden-converted.mp3" length="4052662" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>92</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>92</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Your Intentions Are Good But Your Timing of the Delivery is Bad</title><itunes:title>Your Intentions Are Good But Your Timing of the Delivery is Bad</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever given feedback at the wrong time and instantly regretted it? In this episode, Tessa shares a personal story about holding back her instinct to critique her daughter’s swim performance because sometimes timing is everything. As leaders, we may have the best intentions but if we deliver feedback too soon it can feel more like criticism than support. Susan and Tessa break down the importance of wait time, emotional awareness, and empathy in communication. Tune in to learn how to ensure your message is heard without putting your foot in your mouth.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever given feedback at the wrong time and instantly regretted it? In this episode, Tessa shares a personal story about holding back her instinct to critique her daughter’s swim performance because sometimes timing is everything. As leaders, we may have the best intentions but if we deliver feedback too soon it can feel more like criticism than support. Susan and Tessa break down the importance of wait time, emotional awareness, and empathy in communication. Tune in to learn how to ensure your message is heard without putting your foot in your mouth.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">427ca7e6-f08f-41a8-a616-2f9c7fd4b0bc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/74f6adef-ae9b-4ace-a848-583c20c34230/Your-intentions-are-good-but-your-timing-of-the-delivery-is-bad.mp3" length="6049096" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>91</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>91</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Delegating as a Leader?</title><itunes:title>Are You Delegating as a Leader?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we often feel the pressure to do it all, but should we? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the power of delegation, drawing insights from Chris Donnelly’s <em>Step by Step</em> newsletter. They explore a thought-provoking definition of delegation and why it's a critical skill for leadership growth. By lightening the load, empowering others, and fostering collaboration, delegation not only strengthens your team but also helps prevent burnout. Tune in as they break down the benefits, share real-world strategies, and challenge leaders to let go and trust in their people.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we often feel the pressure to do it all, but should we? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the power of delegation, drawing insights from Chris Donnelly’s <em>Step by Step</em> newsletter. They explore a thought-provoking definition of delegation and why it's a critical skill for leadership growth. By lightening the load, empowering others, and fostering collaboration, delegation not only strengthens your team but also helps prevent burnout. Tune in as they break down the benefits, share real-world strategies, and challenge leaders to let go and trust in their people.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">893a9f71-4d71-4120-9039-77b777665bcd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3f64a069-252f-4852-8ce7-f0931489f481/Are-you-delegating-as-a-leader-converted.mp3" length="4894693" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>90</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>90</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Really an Impartial Listener?</title><itunes:title>Are You Really an Impartial Listener?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, are we truly listening or are we letting our biases choose a side before we hear the full story? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the importance of impartial listening when working with staff, students, and parents. They discuss how easy it is to stop listening once we think we know the answer and how that can impact trust and decision-making. Through personal insights and practical strategies, they break down how to stay curious, gather facts, and use a problem-solving model that ensures fairness and understanding. Tune in to refine your listening skills and lead with clarity and empathy!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, are we truly listening or are we letting our biases choose a side before we hear the full story? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the importance of impartial listening when working with staff, students, and parents. They discuss how easy it is to stop listening once we think we know the answer and how that can impact trust and decision-making. Through personal insights and practical strategies, they break down how to stay curious, gather facts, and use a problem-solving model that ensures fairness and understanding. Tune in to refine your listening skills and lead with clarity and empathy!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">41d3bcbc-750b-4652-9b51-2ab5d99fc4db</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7a68b516-98f2-4fca-b749-55a90ff8ada8/Are-you-really-an-Impartial-listener-converted.mp3" length="5523930" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>89</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>89</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Procrastination-We&apos;ve All Been There!</title><itunes:title>Procrastination-We&apos;ve All Been There!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we have all asked the question, should I just do this tomorrow? Susan and Tessa dive into the all-too-relatable feeling of overwhelm when the "to-do list" keeps growing and motivation seems out of reach. They share personal stories of procrastination and the stress that comes with putting things off. But more importantly, they offer practical strategies to break the cycle, such as tackling the toughest task first, breaking work into manageable chunks, using lists for momentum, delegating when possible, and scheduling tasks for built-in accountability. If procrastination has been holding you back, this episode will help you take action and regain control of your important workload!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we have all asked the question, should I just do this tomorrow? Susan and Tessa dive into the all-too-relatable feeling of overwhelm when the "to-do list" keeps growing and motivation seems out of reach. They share personal stories of procrastination and the stress that comes with putting things off. But more importantly, they offer practical strategies to break the cycle, such as tackling the toughest task first, breaking work into manageable chunks, using lists for momentum, delegating when possible, and scheduling tasks for built-in accountability. If procrastination has been holding you back, this episode will help you take action and regain control of your important workload!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9332697c-b629-4055-84d0-454bf67a6275</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e82a56a7-76d5-4992-8650-6ed0b7cb781e/Procrastination-We-ve-all-been-there-converted.mp3" length="5097508" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>88</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>88</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Fortunately and Unfortunately</title><itunes:title>Fortunately and Unfortunately</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Tessa kicks off this episode with a storytelling game where each twist flips between "fortunately" and "unfortunately," challenging everyone listening to find the silver lining in every setback. This playful exercise reflects a powerful leadership mindset—choosing growth over defeat. As leaders, tough moments will come, but like the tide, challenges roll in and eventually recede. Susan and Tessa share real leadership stories, discuss emotional resilience, and explore strategies for self-regulation. Join the conversation to learn how shifting perspectives can keep you from spiraling in negativity and help you rise stronger every time.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tessa kicks off this episode with a storytelling game where each twist flips between "fortunately" and "unfortunately," challenging everyone listening to find the silver lining in every setback. This playful exercise reflects a powerful leadership mindset—choosing growth over defeat. As leaders, tough moments will come, but like the tide, challenges roll in and eventually recede. Susan and Tessa share real leadership stories, discuss emotional resilience, and explore strategies for self-regulation. Join the conversation to learn how shifting perspectives can keep you from spiraling in negativity and help you rise stronger every time.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f5a79eba-1eba-4298-ae2f-182109521185</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cc380403-cff0-443b-b8d2-b2e84b7f085e/Fortunately-and-Unfortunately-converted.mp3" length="6396525" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>87</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do You Let Fatigue Get the Better of You?</title><itunes:title>Do You Let Fatigue Get the Better of You?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, you’re constantly moving from one challenge to the next, but are you taking care of yourself in the process? In this episode, Susan and Tessa ask the tough questions: Are you eating? Taking breaks? Breathing? Leadership fatigue is real, and without intentional moments of rest, our decision-making, energy, and well-being suffer. Join the conversation as they share practical strategies, useful gadgets, and simple ways to refuel—whether it’s the right snacks, movement, or mental resets—to help you show up as your best self every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, you’re constantly moving from one challenge to the next, but are you taking care of yourself in the process? In this episode, Susan and Tessa ask the tough questions: Are you eating? Taking breaks? Breathing? Leadership fatigue is real, and without intentional moments of rest, our decision-making, energy, and well-being suffer. Join the conversation as they share practical strategies, useful gadgets, and simple ways to refuel—whether it’s the right snacks, movement, or mental resets—to help you show up as your best self every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">36e7a95b-1c2a-4768-940a-116c89b921bf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/53dd1e35-48ae-460e-9a5e-c9af39d693aa/Do-you-let-fatigue-get-the-better-of-you-converted.mp3" length="7135372" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>86</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>86</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Does it Stink to be a New Leader?</title><itunes:title>Does it Stink to be a New Leader?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Stepping into leadership is exciting, but let’s be real, it can also be overwhelming, frustrating, and downright exhausting. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share their differing perspectives on what it feels like to be a new leader, from the struggles of navigating uncharted territory to the thrill of making an impact. They dive into the highs and lows, the uncertainty of not having a roadmap, and the incredible opportunity to shape a team and culture. Whether you’re a brand-new leader or guiding someone who is, this conversation will help you embrace the challenges and see the potential that comes with stepping up in a new position.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stepping into leadership is exciting, but let’s be real, it can also be overwhelming, frustrating, and downright exhausting. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share their differing perspectives on what it feels like to be a new leader, from the struggles of navigating uncharted territory to the thrill of making an impact. They dive into the highs and lows, the uncertainty of not having a roadmap, and the incredible opportunity to shape a team and culture. Whether you’re a brand-new leader or guiding someone who is, this conversation will help you embrace the challenges and see the potential that comes with stepping up in a new position.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ec7228f9-93b3-485b-b4ab-b9018bd15145</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a11480fd-20f1-4eb3-889e-fbadda52bf3a/Does-it-stink-to-be-a-new-leader-converted.mp3" length="6713599" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>85</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>85</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Thoughts About Helping Those Going Through a Tough Time!</title><itunes:title>Thoughts About Helping Those Going Through a Tough Time!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we are often the ones others turn to in times of crisis. But what do you say when a staff member is facing a personal tragedy? How do you offer support without overstepping?</p><p>In this heartfelt conversation, Susan and Tessa share personal stories, words of encouragement, and practical strategies for navigating these difficult moments with compassion and care. From knowing when to simply listen to finding meaningful ways to help, this episode provides guidance on being a steady presence for those who need it most. Leadership isn’t just about strategy, it’s about showing up for people when it matters most.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we are often the ones others turn to in times of crisis. But what do you say when a staff member is facing a personal tragedy? How do you offer support without overstepping?</p><p>In this heartfelt conversation, Susan and Tessa share personal stories, words of encouragement, and practical strategies for navigating these difficult moments with compassion and care. From knowing when to simply listen to finding meaningful ways to help, this episode provides guidance on being a steady presence for those who need it most. Leadership isn’t just about strategy, it’s about showing up for people when it matters most.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7e62e47d-5589-474c-9ecd-c8a29d11df21</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/88ac08ea-0fdc-4a15-85ae-a5f94960a757/Going-through-a-tough-time-converted.mp3" length="6982399" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>84</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>84</podcast:episode></item><item><title>You Are Okay and You Don&apos;t Have to Be Perfect.</title><itunes:title>You Are Okay and You Don&apos;t Have to Be Perfect.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>"I'm a recovering perfectionist and an aspiring good-enoughist." — Brené Brown</p><p>Perfection is a heavy burden, especially for leaders. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the inner chatter that tells us we have to be the best at everything—but is that even possible? Spoiler: It’s not.</p><p>Join the conversation as they unpack how to prioritize what truly needs your time and energy, let go of unrealistic expectations, and embrace being <em>good enough</em> in the areas that don’t require perfection. Leadership isn’t about doing it all flawlessly—it’s about knowing where to show up fully and where to give yourself grace.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I'm a recovering perfectionist and an aspiring good-enoughist." — Brené Brown</p><p>Perfection is a heavy burden, especially for leaders. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the inner chatter that tells us we have to be the best at everything—but is that even possible? Spoiler: It’s not.</p><p>Join the conversation as they unpack how to prioritize what truly needs your time and energy, let go of unrealistic expectations, and embrace being <em>good enough</em> in the areas that don’t require perfection. Leadership isn’t about doing it all flawlessly—it’s about knowing where to show up fully and where to give yourself grace.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0660a12c-b86c-4604-b43b-5951837f8874</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7e568ebd-740c-43e0-8b89-b35242af2d63/It-is-okay-to-not-be-perfect-converted.mp3" length="4977553" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>83</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>83</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Is Your Feedback Style?</title><itunes:title>What Is Your Feedback Style?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is the traditional "Sandwich Model" of feedback—praise, critique, praise—really the best way to help your staff grow? In this important episode, Susan and Tessa dissect this well-known method, sharing why it might not be as effective as we think. They explore the potential pitfalls, like diluting important feedback or leaving staff confused about what really needs improvement.</p><p>Susan and Tessa offer fresh strategies to create feedback environments where staff feel comfortable, respected, and genuinely supported. Learn how to tailor your feedback style to fit different personalities, foster stronger relationships, and encourage meaningful growth in your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the traditional "Sandwich Model" of feedback—praise, critique, praise—really the best way to help your staff grow? In this important episode, Susan and Tessa dissect this well-known method, sharing why it might not be as effective as we think. They explore the potential pitfalls, like diluting important feedback or leaving staff confused about what really needs improvement.</p><p>Susan and Tessa offer fresh strategies to create feedback environments where staff feel comfortable, respected, and genuinely supported. Learn how to tailor your feedback style to fit different personalities, foster stronger relationships, and encourage meaningful growth in your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f05a122-c3fe-4a4a-9d9a-40acf59255d4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/936596f4-dd99-40d1-b1b0-f0aaf4956b99/What-is-your-feedback-style-converted.mp3" length="8955062" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>82</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>82</podcast:episode></item><item><title>It&apos;s about the journey!</title><itunes:title>It&apos;s about the journey!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What do leadership, waiting tables, and training orca whales have in common? More than you think! In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how leadership mirrors the service mindset of a waiter or waitress—anticipating needs, supporting your team, and ensuring everyone thrives. But what happens when stress and overwhelm creep in, causing that servant mindset to slip?</p><p>Tessa shares a fascinating story about orca whale training and how it connects to leadership: we don’t lower expectations, but we can shift how we acknowledge progress. Susan and Tessa dive into how to balance high standards with meaningful support, recognize the unique needs of your staff, and maintain a leadership style that empowers even in challenging times.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do leadership, waiting tables, and training orca whales have in common? More than you think! In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how leadership mirrors the service mindset of a waiter or waitress—anticipating needs, supporting your team, and ensuring everyone thrives. But what happens when stress and overwhelm creep in, causing that servant mindset to slip?</p><p>Tessa shares a fascinating story about orca whale training and how it connects to leadership: we don’t lower expectations, but we can shift how we acknowledge progress. Susan and Tessa dive into how to balance high standards with meaningful support, recognize the unique needs of your staff, and maintain a leadership style that empowers even in challenging times.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a29ae146-d39d-48ef-8c43-33f4d5c2787f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b85b2e16-eb1f-4bf4-b816-6d88ba2952f7/Is-Leadership-Like-Being-A-Waiter-converted.mp3" length="8078431" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>81</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>81</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Who&apos;s to Blame?</title><itunes:title>Who&apos;s to Blame?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>When mistakes happen, do we instinctively look for someone to blame, or do we assume best intentions and focus on solutions? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the blame game mindset and how it can derail progress, morale, and trust in leadership.</p><p>Tessa shares a powerful story about a workplace mishap that had everyone bracing for blame, and together, she and Susan unpack how leaders can shift from pointing fingers to problem-solving. Tune in for practical strategies to navigate adversity, reframe setbacks, and create a culture where mistakes become opportunities for growth—not shame.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When mistakes happen, do we instinctively look for someone to blame, or do we assume best intentions and focus on solutions? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the blame game mindset and how it can derail progress, morale, and trust in leadership.</p><p>Tessa shares a powerful story about a workplace mishap that had everyone bracing for blame, and together, she and Susan unpack how leaders can shift from pointing fingers to problem-solving. Tune in for practical strategies to navigate adversity, reframe setbacks, and create a culture where mistakes become opportunities for growth—not shame.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">28b53f27-f90a-4484-b45d-a9894c72455c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ab49cde8-e3be-490b-b67c-f4120c74a2d5/Who-s-to-Blame-converted.mp3" length="5393109" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>80</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Do You Do When You Have a Bad Day?</title><itunes:title>What Do You Do When You Have a Bad Day?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Bad days are inevitable, even for leaders. Like a crashing wave, they can knock us down, but the tide eventually recedes, giving us the chance to rise again. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share personal stories of struggle and offer practical strategies to navigate hardship, tragedy, or overwhelming emotions.</p><p>They remind us of the resilience within each of us and emphasize the importance of acknowledging tough moments without dwelling in them. Tune in for thoughtful insights and tactics to help you bounce back, regain your footing, and move forward as a stronger, more grounded leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad days are inevitable, even for leaders. Like a crashing wave, they can knock us down, but the tide eventually recedes, giving us the chance to rise again. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share personal stories of struggle and offer practical strategies to navigate hardship, tragedy, or overwhelming emotions.</p><p>They remind us of the resilience within each of us and emphasize the importance of acknowledging tough moments without dwelling in them. Tune in for thoughtful insights and tactics to help you bounce back, regain your footing, and move forward as a stronger, more grounded leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">434193ba-8f7a-452a-8865-f08f0f945001</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a96cdece-63a4-4536-9976-3d9797fcc30c/What-do-you-do-when-you-have-a-bad-day-converted.mp3" length="8442330" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>79</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>79</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What is Commitment?</title><itunes:title>What is Commitment?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the essence of commitment, sharing a powerful definition: <em>Commitment is what we do long after the mood has left us.</em> As the excitement of the new year fades and goals or resolutions start to feel challenging, they reflect on how fleeting emotions often derail our personal and professional aspirations.</p><p>Susan and Tessa provide thought-provoking questions to help leaders evaluate their dedication and strategies to stay steadfast in pursuing professional goals, visions, and dreams. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiration to keep serving others with purpose and resilience, even when the initial motivation wanes.</p><p><strong><span class="ql-cursor">﻿</span>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the essence of commitment, sharing a powerful definition: <em>Commitment is what we do long after the mood has left us.</em> As the excitement of the new year fades and goals or resolutions start to feel challenging, they reflect on how fleeting emotions often derail our personal and professional aspirations.</p><p>Susan and Tessa provide thought-provoking questions to help leaders evaluate their dedication and strategies to stay steadfast in pursuing professional goals, visions, and dreams. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiration to keep serving others with purpose and resilience, even when the initial motivation wanes.</p><p><strong><span class="ql-cursor">﻿</span>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0bb1388a-a96c-44c9-b1c4-b9aa9636963f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bb4e516f-8324-4bcd-9c78-6affe0725e2b/What-is-committment-converted.mp3" length="4062536" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>78</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>78</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Brings You Joy?</title><itunes:title>What Brings You Joy?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the idea of joy—both personal and professional. Inspired by a recent conference Susan attended, they discuss how the concept of joy didn’t initially resonate with her and how she reframed the message to explore what joy means in the context of leadership. While it’s easy to identify joy in personal aspects like family and friends, finding joy in the challenges and demands of our professional roles can feel much harder.</p><p>Join Susan and Tessa as they unpack the questions leaders need to ask themselves to uncover positivity amidst the stress and hardships of the job. They share strategies for recognizing small wins, celebrating impactful moments, and discovering what makes leadership fulfilling. It’s a thoughtful and encouraging conversation about finding happiness and joy in the journey of leadership!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this reflective episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the idea of joy—both personal and professional. Inspired by a recent conference Susan attended, they discuss how the concept of joy didn’t initially resonate with her and how she reframed the message to explore what joy means in the context of leadership. While it’s easy to identify joy in personal aspects like family and friends, finding joy in the challenges and demands of our professional roles can feel much harder.</p><p>Join Susan and Tessa as they unpack the questions leaders need to ask themselves to uncover positivity amidst the stress and hardships of the job. They share strategies for recognizing small wins, celebrating impactful moments, and discovering what makes leadership fulfilling. It’s a thoughtful and encouraging conversation about finding happiness and joy in the journey of leadership!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3d38a644-b567-4d44-96bc-5cb3f9c74df5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3b2b1a5d-e61d-499b-a373-a7f7dea2e57e/What-brings-you-joy-converted.mp3" length="4251610" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>77</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>77</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Do You DO When You Can&apos;t Sleep?</title><itunes:title>What Do You DO When You Can&apos;t Sleep?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sleepless nights happen to the best of us, especially during stressful seasons of leadership. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share personal stories of restless nights and how stress has impacted their ability to recharge. They dive into the critical role sleep plays in our success and offer practical strategies to quiet your mind, manage stress, and create a bedtime routine that sets you up for restful nights. Whether it’s calming your thoughts or breaking the cycle of late-night overthinking, this episode is your guide to waking up ready to tackle the day ahead!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sleepless nights happen to the best of us, especially during stressful seasons of leadership. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share personal stories of restless nights and how stress has impacted their ability to recharge. They dive into the critical role sleep plays in our success and offer practical strategies to quiet your mind, manage stress, and create a bedtime routine that sets you up for restful nights. Whether it’s calming your thoughts or breaking the cycle of late-night overthinking, this episode is your guide to waking up ready to tackle the day ahead!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">eab5b50c-8037-418f-85d6-811952417fa4</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8ed0cdd7-2c24-4277-9c20-147d9e34978f/What-do-you-when-you-can-t-sleep-converted.mp3" length="5803336" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>76</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>76</podcast:episode></item><item><title>It&apos;s Really Not About You!</title><itunes:title>It&apos;s Really Not About You!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever feel like all eyes are on you or that people are saying unkind things behind your back? Susan and Tessa unpack this common leadership worry and offer a refreshing perspective: most people aren’t scrutinizing your every move. In fact, we often overestimate our importance in others’ minds. In this episode, they explore how to shift focus away from these fears and onto what truly matters—serving your team, staying grounded in your purpose, and being the best version of yourself. In the new year, let go of the noise and lean into your role with confidence and clarity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever feel like all eyes are on you or that people are saying unkind things behind your back? Susan and Tessa unpack this common leadership worry and offer a refreshing perspective: most people aren’t scrutinizing your every move. In fact, we often overestimate our importance in others’ minds. In this episode, they explore how to shift focus away from these fears and onto what truly matters—serving your team, staying grounded in your purpose, and being the best version of yourself. In the new year, let go of the noise and lean into your role with confidence and clarity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">16ed1147-2f46-4d0b-8795-97a48cfc3a7b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/50ea2620-803e-465e-bcfb-1b94d849c9c9/It-s-really-not-about-you-converted.mp3" length="4741706" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:35</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>75</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>75</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Happy New Year Part 2: Did Your reflection Stop Already?</title><itunes:title>Happy New Year Part 2: Did Your reflection Stop Already?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa revisit the excitement of the new year and ask the big question: Have your resolutions, goals, or "one word" already taken a backseat? It's easy to lose momentum as the weeks roll on, but they’re here to remind you that it’s never too late to realign. In this episode, they explore how leaders can give themselves grace, embrace flexibility, and take small, meaningful steps toward progress. Remember, every day is a new opportunity to reflect, refocus, and keep moving forward on your leadership journey.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa revisit the excitement of the new year and ask the big question: Have your resolutions, goals, or "one word" already taken a backseat? It's easy to lose momentum as the weeks roll on, but they’re here to remind you that it’s never too late to realign. In this episode, they explore how leaders can give themselves grace, embrace flexibility, and take small, meaningful steps toward progress. Remember, every day is a new opportunity to reflect, refocus, and keep moving forward on your leadership journey.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1284ee6f-56aa-4770-9adc-a65963edc2d1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2f9f31bb-f355-4b62-bdad-b225b32ed2a8/Happy-New-Year-Part-two-Did-reflection-stop-already-converted.mp3" length="4818819" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>74</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>74</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are you an influencer as you lead with intention?</title><itunes:title>Are you an influencer as you lead with intention?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, "Are You an Influencer as You Lead with Intention?", Susan and Tessa explore what it means to inspire and empower those around you, while discussing the critical difference between simply being a boss and becoming a true influencer within your organization. As the new year begins, they encourage leaders to adopt a mindset of intentionality, fostering trust and positive relationships. With insights on creating a warm, inviting culture and being open to feedback, this conversation will help you lead in a way that motivates and uplifts your team while setting the tone for a successful year ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, "Are You an Influencer as You Lead with Intention?", Susan and Tessa explore what it means to inspire and empower those around you, while discussing the critical difference between simply being a boss and becoming a true influencer within your organization. As the new year begins, they encourage leaders to adopt a mindset of intentionality, fostering trust and positive relationships. With insights on creating a warm, inviting culture and being open to feedback, this conversation will help you lead in a way that motivates and uplifts your team while setting the tone for a successful year ahead.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">833cac71-42ec-4151-9070-9dcbd37bc494</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b0f0735b-abc4-4475-b08c-07b4ac099bbb/Are-you-an-influencer-as-you-lead-with-intention-converted.mp3" length="5876479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>73</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>73</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What&apos;s Your Leadership Legacy?</title><itunes:title>What&apos;s Your Leadership Legacy?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>"What's Your Leadership Legacy?" challenges you to consider the lasting impact you want to make as a leader. Susan and Tessa delve into the profound question of how we leave our mark, emphasizing the importance of intentionality and prioritizing what truly matters in leadership. Through personal reflections and insights, they share their visions of leadership legacies and discuss the qualities, characteristics, and actions that create meaningful, lasting influence. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of purpose, impact, and the enduring power of leading with authenticity and care.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"What's Your Leadership Legacy?" challenges you to consider the lasting impact you want to make as a leader. Susan and Tessa delve into the profound question of how we leave our mark, emphasizing the importance of intentionality and prioritizing what truly matters in leadership. Through personal reflections and insights, they share their visions of leadership legacies and discuss the qualities, characteristics, and actions that create meaningful, lasting influence. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of purpose, impact, and the enduring power of leading with authenticity and care.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">725c14e7-d062-4c3f-85d9-cf9aa3f6f711</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/20041333-017d-4853-94c3-a3071a9f55ca/What-s-your-leadership-legacy-converted.mp3" length="5289909" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>72</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>72</podcast:episode></item><item><title>New Year, New Opportunity</title><itunes:title>New Year, New Opportunity</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the last episode of the year, "New Year, New Opportunity" invites you to hit pause and reflect on your leadership journey. Inspired by Mel Robbins’ quote, “You don’t know where you are going until you know where you have been,” Susan and Tessa dive into the power of reflection—not just in January but at key moments throughout the year. From setting checkpoints each semester to assessing monthly progress, they discuss how to evaluate your goals, identify what’s working, and embrace change for growth. This episode is your guide to staying intentional and adaptable as a leader while paving the way for meaningful progress.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last episode of the year, "New Year, New Opportunity" invites you to hit pause and reflect on your leadership journey. Inspired by Mel Robbins’ quote, “You don’t know where you are going until you know where you have been,” Susan and Tessa dive into the power of reflection—not just in January but at key moments throughout the year. From setting checkpoints each semester to assessing monthly progress, they discuss how to evaluate your goals, identify what’s working, and embrace change for growth. This episode is your guide to staying intentional and adaptable as a leader while paving the way for meaningful progress.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">139b571c-312d-417d-bf1e-0bbcc355951a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a1af7b88-85a6-40fa-bf79-128ba66606eb/New-Year-New-Opportunity-converted.mp3" length="5404707" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>71</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>71</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do you let different tasks get you anxious?</title><itunes:title>Do you let different tasks get you anxious?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ever found yourself dreading a task because of a past negative experience? In this eye-opening episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the hidden struggles leaders face when anxiety sneaks in—whether it’s from a tense meeting, a tough conversation with a parent, or other challenging moments. Through candid stories and relatable insights, they unpack how avoidance can creep into our professional lives and hold us back. But it’s not all doom and gloom—Susan and Tessa share practical strategies to face those uncomfortable emotions head-on, reframe your mindset, and reclaim your confidence. Tune in and learn how to move past the roadblocks and embrace leadership with resilience!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever found yourself dreading a task because of a past negative experience? In this eye-opening episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the hidden struggles leaders face when anxiety sneaks in—whether it’s from a tense meeting, a tough conversation with a parent, or other challenging moments. Through candid stories and relatable insights, they unpack how avoidance can creep into our professional lives and hold us back. But it’s not all doom and gloom—Susan and Tessa share practical strategies to face those uncomfortable emotions head-on, reframe your mindset, and reclaim your confidence. Tune in and learn how to move past the roadblocks and embrace leadership with resilience!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">da6ac93c-b04e-48a8-89de-90135c785c66</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 12:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b8c3e057-0227-49cf-83a4-9e4f2ff69889/Do-you-let-different-tasks-get-you-anxious-converted.mp3" length="6043976" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>70</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Is It Really a Catastrophe or Are You Making It a Catastrophe?</title><itunes:title>Is It Really a Catastrophe or Are You Making It a Catastrophe?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>When adversity strikes or things go wrong, how do you respond? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore our natural tendencies to spiral into doom-and-gloom, worry, or frustration when faced with challenges. They unpack the brain's default reactions and share actionable strategies to navigate tough situations with resilience and clarity. Learn how to shift your mindset, stay grounded, and lead through adversity without turning obstacles into catastrophes. This empowering conversation will help you reframe your thinking and handle leadership challenges with confidence and composure.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When adversity strikes or things go wrong, how do you respond? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore our natural tendencies to spiral into doom-and-gloom, worry, or frustration when faced with challenges. They unpack the brain's default reactions and share actionable strategies to navigate tough situations with resilience and clarity. Learn how to shift your mindset, stay grounded, and lead through adversity without turning obstacles into catastrophes. This empowering conversation will help you reframe your thinking and handle leadership challenges with confidence and composure.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">075e210f-cd5f-455d-8bfc-c9530fe9e30f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/10419137-420f-42b6-8b3d-0d71d04364ac/Is-it-really-a-catastrophe-or-are-you-making-it-a-catastrophe-c.mp3" length="6542079" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>69</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>69</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Do We Do When We Don&apos;t Get the Result That We Want?</title><itunes:title>What Do We Do When We Don&apos;t Get the Result That We Want?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when your best-laid plans fall apart, an initiative flops, or a decision backfires? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the messy side of leadership, exploring how to handle failure and frustration without losing momentum. They share how reflecting on the experience, asking the tough questions, and celebrating small wins can turn setbacks into opportunities for growth. By shifting from emotional reactions to a data-driven focus, leaders can uncover valuable lessons and create a blueprint for future success. Tune in for an inspiring discussion packed with creative strategies to transform leadership missteps into powerful comebacks.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when your best-laid plans fall apart, an initiative flops, or a decision backfires? In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the messy side of leadership, exploring how to handle failure and frustration without losing momentum. They share how reflecting on the experience, asking the tough questions, and celebrating small wins can turn setbacks into opportunities for growth. By shifting from emotional reactions to a data-driven focus, leaders can uncover valuable lessons and create a blueprint for future success. Tune in for an inspiring discussion packed with creative strategies to transform leadership missteps into powerful comebacks.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8d0fcf4c-f691-4970-b059-f220fe8c4230</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6fe6dcfd-8e4f-4331-bc09-9dc336a89674/What-do-you-do-when-you-dont-get-the-results-you-wanted-convert.mp3" length="5866591" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>68</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>68</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Self Aware Leadership</title><itunes:title>Self Aware Leadership</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan starts the show sharing a vulnerable story about navigating frustration during a medical procedure and how her assumptions shaped her experience. This reflection sparks a deep conversation with Tessa about the importance of self-awareness in leadership. How often do we, as leaders, jump to conclusions, assume the worst, or fail to consider the needs of others? Together, they explore how self-reflection, pausing, and empathizing can transform our reactions and help us show up with greater understanding and grace. While negative emotions are valid, Susan and Tessa emphasize the power of recognizing their impact on our leadership and creating space for growth.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan starts the show sharing a vulnerable story about navigating frustration during a medical procedure and how her assumptions shaped her experience. This reflection sparks a deep conversation with Tessa about the importance of self-awareness in leadership. How often do we, as leaders, jump to conclusions, assume the worst, or fail to consider the needs of others? Together, they explore how self-reflection, pausing, and empathizing can transform our reactions and help us show up with greater understanding and grace. While negative emotions are valid, Susan and Tessa emphasize the power of recognizing their impact on our leadership and creating space for growth.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9cd22e48-d41c-43ee-921c-dfb608f35b65</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/62d1aa58-e996-4220-8ca1-f2de0aee144d/Self-Aware-Leadership-converted.mp3" length="7658589" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>67</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>67</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Every Day Appreciation</title><itunes:title>Every Day Appreciation</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Appreciation shouldn’t be confined to a single day or week. It’s a daily practice that transforms campus culture. In this thoughtful episode, Susan and Tessa explore the importance of showing gratitude every day and ask, "Why wait for Teacher Week or Principal’s Day to celebrate our staff?" They discuss how personalized acts of appreciation, no matter how small, can make individuals feel seen, valued, and connected. From sticky notes to handwritten cards, they share practical ideas for building habits that prioritize positivity. Join the conversation and learn how simple, consistent gestures can create a ripple effect of belonging and joy.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciation shouldn’t be confined to a single day or week. It’s a daily practice that transforms campus culture. In this thoughtful episode, Susan and Tessa explore the importance of showing gratitude every day and ask, "Why wait for Teacher Week or Principal’s Day to celebrate our staff?" They discuss how personalized acts of appreciation, no matter how small, can make individuals feel seen, valued, and connected. From sticky notes to handwritten cards, they share practical ideas for building habits that prioritize positivity. Join the conversation and learn how simple, consistent gestures can create a ripple effect of belonging and joy.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6812f4e5-5800-4db5-8184-b6be8945a786</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4d32dad2-9822-4814-a65a-bc09b84a8753/Every-Day-Appreciation-converted.mp3" length="6337645" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>66</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Self Care is Important</title><itunes:title>Self Care is Important</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Educators are often so focused on serving others that they neglect their own well-being. In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the importance of self-care, reminding leaders that they deserve "first-class care" too. They share personal stories of times they overlooked their own needs, highlighting the guilt that can come with stepping away from work. With empathy and encouragement, they explore the concept of self-compassion and provide diverse strategies to make self-care a priority—because it’s not a one-size-fits-all approach. Tune in for inspiration to care for yourself as intentionally as you care for others.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educators are often so focused on serving others that they neglect their own well-being. In this heartfelt episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the importance of self-care, reminding leaders that they deserve "first-class care" too. They share personal stories of times they overlooked their own needs, highlighting the guilt that can come with stepping away from work. With empathy and encouragement, they explore the concept of self-compassion and provide diverse strategies to make self-care a priority—because it’s not a one-size-fits-all approach. Tune in for inspiration to care for yourself as intentionally as you care for others.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">629c1ef0-dd1a-4503-90bf-df5138519101</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fc228b37-7eb4-4cae-bbfe-adfe388098b8/Self-Care-is-Important-converted.mp3" length="8926536" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>65</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>65</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Overthinking? How Do You Avoid This?</title><itunes:title>Overthinking? How Do You Avoid This?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Overthinking can paralyze even the strongest leaders. In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the traps of fear, doubt, and overwhelming thoughts that can lead to indecision. Through relatable stories, memorable quotes, and practical strategies, they explore how to push past hesitation and make confident choices. They also discuss how overthinking can impact how staff perceives a leader and influence team dynamics. Tune in to learn how to trust yourself, seek the right support, and apply powerful mental strategies to break free from the overthinking cycle and lead with clarity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overthinking can paralyze even the strongest leaders. In this episode, Susan and Tessa unpack the traps of fear, doubt, and overwhelming thoughts that can lead to indecision. Through relatable stories, memorable quotes, and practical strategies, they explore how to push past hesitation and make confident choices. They also discuss how overthinking can impact how staff perceives a leader and influence team dynamics. Tune in to learn how to trust yourself, seek the right support, and apply powerful mental strategies to break free from the overthinking cycle and lead with clarity.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7dd08db7-9f6a-42ae-a681-329e035eae6a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5de5550b-7b3a-462f-b5ba-4e2f91ea173a/Overthinking-how-do-you-avoid-this-converted.mp3" length="6303633" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>64</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>64</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Love Them More and Help Them Belong</title><itunes:title>Love Them More and Help Them Belong</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Dips of Doubt podcast, Susan and Tessa explore the profound impact of connection on leadership. They delve into the idea that effective leaders must cultivate a sense of belonging within their teams, tailoring their approach to the unique needs of each individual. Whether it's a seasoned veteran or a newcomer, everyone craves connection. Join Susan and Tessa as they discuss the power of connection, the importance of adapting leadership styles, and practical tips for fostering a welcoming and inclusive environment. They also navigate the challenges of balancing support and empowerment. If you're a leader seeking to inspire and uplift your team, tune in to discover how to foster deeper connections and create a thriving team culture.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Dips of Doubt podcast, Susan and Tessa explore the profound impact of connection on leadership. They delve into the idea that effective leaders must cultivate a sense of belonging within their teams, tailoring their approach to the unique needs of each individual. Whether it's a seasoned veteran or a newcomer, everyone craves connection. Join Susan and Tessa as they discuss the power of connection, the importance of adapting leadership styles, and practical tips for fostering a welcoming and inclusive environment. They also navigate the challenges of balancing support and empowerment. If you're a leader seeking to inspire and uplift your team, tune in to discover how to foster deeper connections and create a thriving team culture.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b3eacfd2-9e31-4356-a386-7b9a578d1541</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2024 01:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3790a949-22f9-4c7c-b9bf-6f7b2c43fac5/Love-them-more-and-help-them-belong-converted.mp3" length="6406435" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>63</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>63</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Navigating Emotional and Physical Fatigue</title><itunes:title>Navigating Emotional and Physical Fatigue</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Feeling drained during this busy time of year? Susan and Tessa delve into the realities of emotional and physical fatigue, offering insights into why burnout hits so hard and how to manage it effectively. They discuss decision fatigue, inspired by examples like Einstein and Steve Jobs, who simplified choices to conserve mental energy. As leaders, our flexibility often adds to the number of decisions we face daily, and knowing when our brains need a break is critical. They also tackle compassion fatigue, a unique challenge for educators, and explain how burnout stems from the imbalance between demands and resources. Tune in for actionable strategies to combat fatigue and restore your energy and focus. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeling drained during this busy time of year? Susan and Tessa delve into the realities of emotional and physical fatigue, offering insights into why burnout hits so hard and how to manage it effectively. They discuss decision fatigue, inspired by examples like Einstein and Steve Jobs, who simplified choices to conserve mental energy. As leaders, our flexibility often adds to the number of decisions we face daily, and knowing when our brains need a break is critical. They also tackle compassion fatigue, a unique challenge for educators, and explain how burnout stems from the imbalance between demands and resources. Tune in for actionable strategies to combat fatigue and restore your energy and focus. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9a84ff7a-ccf5-4959-a74a-6e5b6d278760</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7805e3ab-1ae6-453c-acbf-1c0292591d6d/Navigating-Emotional-and-Physical-Fatigue-converted.mp3" length="6758983" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>62</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>62</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Talking About Others Can Be in the Form of a Compliment.</title><itunes:title>Talking About Others Can Be in the Form of a Compliment.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever paused to consider the power of a positive comment? A simple compliment, a kind gesture, or even a silent act of support can create ripples of positivity that extend far beyond our immediate circle. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive deep into the art of spreading positivity. They explore the pervasive nature of negativity in our daily lives and discuss the transformative impact of shifting our focus to the positive.</p><p>Together, they unravel why we default to negativity and offer practical strategies for leaders to cultivate a culture of positivity. From small acts of kindness to intentional leadership practices, they share actionable tips to inspire and uplift those around us. Join us as we explore the power of positive language, the importance of recognizing and celebrating achievements, and the art of building others up.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor. </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever paused to consider the power of a positive comment? A simple compliment, a kind gesture, or even a silent act of support can create ripples of positivity that extend far beyond our immediate circle. In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive deep into the art of spreading positivity. They explore the pervasive nature of negativity in our daily lives and discuss the transformative impact of shifting our focus to the positive.</p><p>Together, they unravel why we default to negativity and offer practical strategies for leaders to cultivate a culture of positivity. From small acts of kindness to intentional leadership practices, they share actionable tips to inspire and uplift those around us. Join us as we explore the power of positive language, the importance of recognizing and celebrating achievements, and the art of building others up.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">06750852-973b-4cc8-9433-33f957911752</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2474e48b-37dd-46e2-8ffa-8cf5d795b138/Talking-about-others-can-be-in-the-form-of-a-compliment-convert.mp3" length="4794366" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>61</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Get Yourself Motivated?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Get Yourself Motivated?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>What drives you to push forward and achieve your goals? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the art of self-motivation and how leaders can fuel their growth every day. Drawing inspiration from Olympic athletes, they discuss strategies like goal visualization, speaking your aspirations aloud, and creating a clear pathway to success. Whether it's setting new challenges or refining your approach, they share practical tips to help you stay motivated, focused, and on track to live your dreams. Join the conversation and discover how to unlock your full potential.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What drives you to push forward and achieve your goals? In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the art of self-motivation and how leaders can fuel their growth every day. Drawing inspiration from Olympic athletes, they discuss strategies like goal visualization, speaking your aspirations aloud, and creating a clear pathway to success. Whether it's setting new challenges or refining your approach, they share practical tips to help you stay motivated, focused, and on track to live your dreams. Join the conversation and discover how to unlock your full potential.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9d42fb81-3454-45de-a8b3-b727c4cd87ab</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fadc176a-ca96-4460-b3f0-d735e2733cf1/How-do-you-get-yourself-motivated-converted.mp3" length="5259505" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>60</podcast:episode></item><item><title>People Are Always Watching</title><itunes:title>People Are Always Watching</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we’re always in the spotlight, and our actions speak volumes. In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the reality that people are constantly observing us, whether on campus or in the community. They discuss how leaders represent their teams, schools, and districts, emphasizing the importance of modeling integrity, professionalism, and kindness. Through engaging stories and examples, they illustrate how both positive and negative behaviors ripple outward, shaping the environment and influencing others. Tune in for valuable insights on staying grounded, surrounding yourself with uplifting people, and showing up as the best version of yourself every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As leaders, we’re always in the spotlight, and our actions speak volumes. In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the reality that people are constantly observing us, whether on campus or in the community. They discuss how leaders represent their teams, schools, and districts, emphasizing the importance of modeling integrity, professionalism, and kindness. Through engaging stories and examples, they illustrate how both positive and negative behaviors ripple outward, shaping the environment and influencing others. Tune in for valuable insights on staying grounded, surrounding yourself with uplifting people, and showing up as the best version of yourself every day.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aaa4db34-82f3-402b-a48b-02fb4bd971f7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7612e1d6-77ec-4f91-b675-675c62ce8ebb/People-are-always-watching-converted.mp3" length="5180563" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>59</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Actions Matter</title><itunes:title>Actions Matter</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the powerful adage, "Actions speak louder than words," challenging leaders to reflect on whether their behavior aligns with their promises. They explore the impact of saying one thing and doing another, emphasizing how it can erode trust and reliability among staff. With candid examples and practical insights, they discuss the importance of following through and caution against overpromising. Tune in to learn how consistent actions can build your credibility and strengthen relationships within your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the powerful adage, "Actions speak louder than words," challenging leaders to reflect on whether their behavior aligns with their promises. They explore the impact of saying one thing and doing another, emphasizing how it can erode trust and reliability among staff. With candid examples and practical insights, they discuss the importance of following through and caution against overpromising. Tune in to learn how consistent actions can build your credibility and strengthen relationships within your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5f0364ea-04d6-4b14-a638-4728ff9113c9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5c8ed092-31ec-48e5-9568-74162fd99ef9/Actions-Matter-converted.mp3" length="3829196" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>58</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Notice and Pause</title><itunes:title>Notice and Pause</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa delve into the power of pausing and noticing moments of gratitude—both for ourselves and those around us. From journaling reflections to sharing appreciative words with colleagues or loved ones, they discuss simple yet impactful ways to cultivate gratitude regularly. They highlight how setting and technique matter, whether you’re speaking your thanks aloud, writing it down, or simply holding it in mind. In this episode, discover methods to foster gratitude in your daily life and learn how this practice can deepen connections and support your well-being as a leader.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan and Tessa delve into the power of pausing and noticing moments of gratitude—both for ourselves and those around us. From journaling reflections to sharing appreciative words with colleagues or loved ones, they discuss simple yet impactful ways to cultivate gratitude regularly. They highlight how setting and technique matter, whether you’re speaking your thanks aloud, writing it down, or simply holding it in mind. In this episode, discover methods to foster gratitude in your daily life and learn how this practice can deepen connections and support your well-being as a leader.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f5fb353b-48be-4720-81be-7002ce07e2e9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/89e08094-5856-4439-be17-e7f7d928fab7/Notice-and-Pause-converted.mp3" length="5479665" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:31</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>57</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Supporting Students</title><itunes:title>Supporting Students</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>With the holiday season approaching, Susan and Tessa explore how shifts in routine and the prospect of long breaks can create challenges for students, especially those who rely on the stability of school as a safe space. As disruptions can often lead to heightened emotions and unregulated behaviors, they discuss ways educators can respond to student anxiety and de-escalate tense situations effectively. Susan and Tessa also address the difficult realities some students face during the holidays, from family instability and trauma to housing insecurity, and they provide actionable strategies to help support students as they navigate this time. Join the conversation for compassionate approaches to maintaining a supportive, consistent environment as the holiday season approaches.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the holiday season approaching, Susan and Tessa explore how shifts in routine and the prospect of long breaks can create challenges for students, especially those who rely on the stability of school as a safe space. As disruptions can often lead to heightened emotions and unregulated behaviors, they discuss ways educators can respond to student anxiety and de-escalate tense situations effectively. Susan and Tessa also address the difficult realities some students face during the holidays, from family instability and trauma to housing insecurity, and they provide actionable strategies to help support students as they navigate this time. Join the conversation for compassionate approaches to maintaining a supportive, consistent environment as the holiday season approaches.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dc15c596-2b42-42e9-a876-dff15e3b8501</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7e29d644-ff95-4445-a74a-44400ab1e598/Supporting-Students-converted.mp3" length="8188929" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>11:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>56</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Survival Through Gratitude</title><itunes:title>Survival Through Gratitude</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As November brings on the rush of holiday stress and shifting dynamics among students, staff, and parents, leaders can find themselves in "survival mode". In this episode, Susan and Tessa talk about the power of gratitude during this busy season and the importance of reflecting on the positive impact you’re making, even when times are tough. Drawing on scientific research, they share strategies to move past “survival mode” by identifying key challenges, breaking them down into manageable steps, and constructing actionable plans that create a sense of hope and motivation. Tune in for ways to reframe stress into strength through intentional gratitude.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As November brings on the rush of holiday stress and shifting dynamics among students, staff, and parents, leaders can find themselves in "survival mode". In this episode, Susan and Tessa talk about the power of gratitude during this busy season and the importance of reflecting on the positive impact you’re making, even when times are tough. Drawing on scientific research, they share strategies to move past “survival mode” by identifying key challenges, breaking them down into manageable steps, and constructing actionable plans that create a sense of hope and motivation. Tune in for ways to reframe stress into strength through intentional gratitude.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aa0635dd-5195-4034-b15f-41d4ba110a5b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/28ecf226-22ff-4486-9fc5-caf94e8e8256/Survival-through-gratitude-ends-converted.mp3" length="8435368" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>55</podcast:episode></item><item><title>It&apos;s Hard to Say No</title><itunes:title>It&apos;s Hard to Say No</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Setting boundaries is essential for leaders, especially those who strive to please others or aim to advance in their careers. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how to establish healthy limits to prevent burnout and support mental health while upholding a reputation for hard work and service. They share real-life examples of saying "no" in a way that maintains respect and authenticity and emphasize the importance of delegating tasks to empower those around you. This discussion provides practical tips to help leaders prioritize well-being without compromising dedication to their roles, campus, or district. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting boundaries is essential for leaders, especially those who strive to please others or aim to advance in their careers. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore how to establish healthy limits to prevent burnout and support mental health while upholding a reputation for hard work and service. They share real-life examples of saying "no" in a way that maintains respect and authenticity and emphasize the importance of delegating tasks to empower those around you. This discussion provides practical tips to help leaders prioritize well-being without compromising dedication to their roles, campus, or district. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3c50abd5-a991-4e72-afdc-dc56b0d94631</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e099f599-c177-4871-aa6f-ec910cd750bc/It-s-hard-to-say-no-converted.mp3" length="4186552" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>54</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Begin to Rebuild Trust When You Have Staff Members that Have Shut Down?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Begin to Rebuild Trust When You Have Staff Members that Have Shut Down?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rebuilding trust with staff members who have disengaged can be challenging, but it’s crucial for a healthy school culture. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share effective strategies for reconnecting with shut-down staff and creating a transparent feedback environment. They discuss the importance of assessing campus culture carefully, keeping an eye out for pitfalls like relying on the same voices, receiving insincere feedback, and neglecting to provide a safe space for open dialogue. Susan and Tessa encourage leaders to embrace hard conversations with empathy, creating a foundation for trust and meaningful change.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebuilding trust with staff members who have disengaged can be challenging, but it’s crucial for a healthy school culture. In this episode, Susan and Tessa share effective strategies for reconnecting with shut-down staff and creating a transparent feedback environment. They discuss the importance of assessing campus culture carefully, keeping an eye out for pitfalls like relying on the same voices, receiving insincere feedback, and neglecting to provide a safe space for open dialogue. Susan and Tessa encourage leaders to embrace hard conversations with empathy, creating a foundation for trust and meaningful change.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">7346dab4-a5b6-44b0-9317-4fae98e4abdd</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/873b265b-3a45-40a8-b5f5-7661c101aa53/How-do-you-begin-to-rebuild-trust-when-you-have-staff-members-t.mp3" length="5703848" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>53</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Have You Ever Been in a Meeting and it Went South?</title><itunes:title>Have You Ever Been in a Meeting and it Went South?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa tackle a common challenge many leaders face: when a meeting takes an unexpected turn, leaving you feeling attacked or where the conversation becomes negative. They share three essential strategies to help leaders confidently address these situations, turning them into opportunities for growth. With a focus on confronting the issue head-on, Susan and Tessa offer insights on how to guide future meetings toward healthier, more effective communication, ensuring that tough moments lead to positive outcomes.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa tackle a common challenge many leaders face: when a meeting takes an unexpected turn, leaving you feeling attacked or where the conversation becomes negative. They share three essential strategies to help leaders confidently address these situations, turning them into opportunities for growth. With a focus on confronting the issue head-on, Susan and Tessa offer insights on how to guide future meetings toward healthier, more effective communication, ensuring that tough moments lead to positive outcomes.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fd4fa657-4dcb-4c9e-8da1-a52ff05c930d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3f5b59be-a6c5-4375-8fc9-c87df0fdb958/Have-you-ever-been-in-a-meeting-and-it-went-south-converted.mp3" length="7738316" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Open Your Heart and You Can Change Your Thinking</title><itunes:title>Open Your Heart and You Can Change Your Thinking</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa begin with a powerful question: "Have you ever wished for a clean slate?" They dive into how leaders and educators can shift their mindset when working with students, particularly those with challenging behaviors. By approaching students with an open heart, grace, and a sense of delight—rather than expecting difficulties—educators can foster a more positive environment for growth. Susan and Tessa emphasize the importance of focusing on each student’s promise and potential, encouraging listeners to see beyond the struggles and embrace opportunities for connection and development.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa begin with a powerful question: "Have you ever wished for a clean slate?" They dive into how leaders and educators can shift their mindset when working with students, particularly those with challenging behaviors. By approaching students with an open heart, grace, and a sense of delight—rather than expecting difficulties—educators can foster a more positive environment for growth. Susan and Tessa emphasize the importance of focusing on each student’s promise and potential, encouraging listeners to see beyond the struggles and embrace opportunities for connection and development.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9f3500c3-e059-4507-ba1b-ac866c851c9f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/00cc64a0-7d25-44f6-99ce-8e0ed460d034/Open-your-heart-and-you-can-change-your-thinking-converted.mp3" length="8427166" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>11:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Go Slow to Go Fast</title><itunes:title>Go Slow to Go Fast</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>During this awesome episode, Susan and Tessa explore the concept of "Go Slow to Go Fast," discussing how leaders often face overwhelming demands and responsibilities. They emphasize the importance of taking time to process and reflect before jumping into action. Leadership is a marathon, not a sprint—by slowing down, leaders can prioritize effectively, strategize thoughtfully, and make more impactful decisions. Susan and Tessa also highlight the power of delegation and fostering a team mentality, reminding leaders that they don’t have to carry the burden alone. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During this awesome episode, Susan and Tessa explore the concept of "Go Slow to Go Fast," discussing how leaders often face overwhelming demands and responsibilities. They emphasize the importance of taking time to process and reflect before jumping into action. Leadership is a marathon, not a sprint—by slowing down, leaders can prioritize effectively, strategize thoughtfully, and make more impactful decisions. Susan and Tessa also highlight the power of delegation and fostering a team mentality, reminding leaders that they don’t have to carry the burden alone. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">79a351b0-9ebf-4b69-8196-608046114e72</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/94ece6b3-2964-4cfd-99bd-9667c55ef05d/Go-Slow-to-Go-Fast-converted.mp3" length="6263913" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Parent Support</title><itunes:title>Parent Support</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the essential role of parent support in a school’s success. As a leader, providing parents with the right resources, transparency, and empathy strengthens communication and builds trust. They explore how deeper connections with parents through programs like PTA, along with regular gratitude and "positive phone calls," can make a significant impact on student learning and school culture. Tune in to hear practical strategies for fostering stronger relationships between parents, teachers, and school leaders to create a more supportive and engaged educational environment.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the essential role of parent support in a school’s success. As a leader, providing parents with the right resources, transparency, and empathy strengthens communication and builds trust. They explore how deeper connections with parents through programs like PTA, along with regular gratitude and "positive phone calls," can make a significant impact on student learning and school culture. Tune in to hear practical strategies for fostering stronger relationships between parents, teachers, and school leaders to create a more supportive and engaged educational environment.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6780493f-2fc1-46f9-a86f-9b46d1805b78</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/29d75fc6-a791-4ec2-887c-ac071ad90943/Parent-Support-converted.mp3" length="6909242" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Future Self Check-In</title><itunes:title>Future Self Check-In</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As the school year gains momentum, it’s crucial to pause and evaluate your progress as a leader. It’s the perfect time to reflect on personal and campus goals—are you progressing as planned, or do adjustments need to be made? Join the discussion as Susan and Tessa share strategies on visualization, using data to assess your progress, and identifying areas that need a course correction. They emphasize the importance of being intentional with your growth and provide actionable insights to ensure you're on the path to becoming the leader you want to be by year’s end.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the school year gains momentum, it’s crucial to pause and evaluate your progress as a leader. It’s the perfect time to reflect on personal and campus goals—are you progressing as planned, or do adjustments need to be made? Join the discussion as Susan and Tessa share strategies on visualization, using data to assess your progress, and identifying areas that need a course correction. They emphasize the importance of being intentional with your growth and provide actionable insights to ensure you're on the path to becoming the leader you want to be by year’s end.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">cecf0581-fab7-429c-8dc6-fcca1e571528</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9cbb6704-5220-4c96-b3fa-5b4a38b467e1/Are-you-going-to-be-happy-with-your-future-self-converted.mp3" length="8972602" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Overcoming the Pressure to Please Everyone</title><itunes:title>Overcoming the Pressure to Please Everyone</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the tough reality of leadership—knowing you can’t please everyone. They explore the reflective questions leaders should ask when faced with negativity or dissatisfaction from staff, and how to avoid getting stuck in a negative mindset. Susan and Tessa discuss what aspects of the situation leaders can control and provide strategies to shift your mindset, helping you rise above negativity and focus on being the best leader you can be. Tune in for practical tips on how to lead with resilience, balance expectations, and maintain a positive outlook, even when criticism arises.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the tough reality of leadership—knowing you can’t please everyone. They explore the reflective questions leaders should ask when faced with negativity or dissatisfaction from staff, and how to avoid getting stuck in a negative mindset. Susan and Tessa discuss what aspects of the situation leaders can control and provide strategies to shift your mindset, helping you rise above negativity and focus on being the best leader you can be. Tune in for practical tips on how to lead with resilience, balance expectations, and maintain a positive outlook, even when criticism arises.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">2145f1be-036f-4eef-ac9f-d6b25071f27c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8458a3ab-a510-4451-92e4-14be6b0defb5/Navigating-Leadership-When-Pleasing-Everyone-Seems-Impossible-c.mp3" length="5943756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:05</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Exploring The Impact and Significance of Triggering the Brain</title><itunes:title>Exploring The Impact and Significance of Triggering the Brain</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa explore the profound impact of brain regulation in education, focusing on how our brains respond to stressful situations. They share strategies for educators to manage their own triggers and avoid escalating conflicts with students, parents, or co-workers. By understanding the brain's "fear state" and "survival mode," Susan and Tessa discuss how to recognize the triggers that cause dysregulation and how to navigate the fight-or-flight response. As leaders, it’s crucial to create an environment where both staff and students feel safe and supported, promoting better learning and connection even in challenging moments.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this important episode, Susan and Tessa explore the profound impact of brain regulation in education, focusing on how our brains respond to stressful situations. They share strategies for educators to manage their own triggers and avoid escalating conflicts with students, parents, or co-workers. By understanding the brain's "fear state" and "survival mode," Susan and Tessa discuss how to recognize the triggers that cause dysregulation and how to navigate the fight-or-flight response. As leaders, it’s crucial to create an environment where both staff and students feel safe and supported, promoting better learning and connection even in challenging moments.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">08c76bc6-4545-4a14-b5ec-14538d9481c9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7e58305e-0f43-4e05-aac2-cbe76e6e4845/Exploring-The-Impact-and-Significance-of-Triggering-the-Brain-c.mp3" length="7880945" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Email Hacks: Strategies to Streamline Communication and Stay Organized</title><itunes:title>Email Hacks: Strategies to Streamline Communication and Stay Organized</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa offer practical email strategies to help leaders stay organized and on top of their inbox. They share tips like archiving emails to reduce clutter, scheduling messages to send during appropriate business hours, and delegating tasks to team members for better support. Learn how to efficiently manage your inbox by deleting unnecessary emails and saving important ones in designated folders. Tune in for actionable email hacks that will help you boost productivity, cut down on email chaos, and maintain a professional balance.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa offer practical email strategies to help leaders stay organized and on top of their inbox. They share tips like archiving emails to reduce clutter, scheduling messages to send during appropriate business hours, and delegating tasks to team members for better support. Learn how to efficiently manage your inbox by deleting unnecessary emails and saving important ones in designated folders. Tune in for actionable email hacks that will help you boost productivity, cut down on email chaos, and maintain a professional balance.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dcfecd11-38fa-46af-8447-5d39f578b931</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5412bc1c-56cd-4639-ab8d-66d64dee0293/Email-Hacks-Strategies-to-Streamline-Communication-and-Stay-Org.mp3" length="5589013" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Self Organization and Closing the Loop</title><itunes:title>Self Organization and Closing the Loop</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the art of self-organization and the importance of closing the loop in delegation. They discuss strategies for staying organized, from breaking down tasks into "good, better, and best" categories to ensuring follow-through on delegation. By closing the loop, leaders can ensure tasks are completed efficiently without loose ends and frustration. Susan and Tessa share actionable tips on how to streamline responsibilities, prioritize effectively, and maintain accountability in a busy educational environment. Tune in to learn how mastering organization can boost both personal productivity and team success!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the art of self-organization and the importance of closing the loop in delegation. They discuss strategies for staying organized, from breaking down tasks into "good, better, and best" categories to ensuring follow-through on delegation. By closing the loop, leaders can ensure tasks are completed efficiently without loose ends and frustration. Susan and Tessa share actionable tips on how to streamline responsibilities, prioritize effectively, and maintain accountability in a busy educational environment. Tune in to learn how mastering organization can boost both personal productivity and team success!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fcff46b6-277e-4662-9e32-7322e924d4ab</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7a6ea349-26ba-4fc4-93b6-3d0ef69c0c24/Self-organization-and-Closing-the-Loop-converted.mp3" length="5296442" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Embracing Your Blindspots To Be The Best You Can Be.</title><itunes:title>Embracing Your Blindspots To Be The Best You Can Be.</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the importance of embracing your blind spots as a leader to grow and improve. They explore how being open to feedback, both positive and constructive, is key to becoming the best version of yourself. By building genuine connections with staff and fostering healthy relationships, leaders can cultivate a culture of healthy dialog. Susan and Tessa emphasize the need to listen to the message of the feedback rather than getting hung up on the delivery, and how graciously accepting feedback, without taking yourself too seriously, can lead to meaningful change. Tune in to discover why feedback is truly the breakfast of champions.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the importance of embracing your blind spots as a leader to grow and improve. They explore how being open to feedback, both positive and constructive, is key to becoming the best version of yourself. By building genuine connections with staff and fostering healthy relationships, leaders can cultivate a culture of healthy dialog. Susan and Tessa emphasize the need to listen to the message of the feedback rather than getting hung up on the delivery, and how graciously accepting feedback, without taking yourself too seriously, can lead to meaningful change. Tune in to discover why feedback is truly the breakfast of champions.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5fd3ddc1-15ce-44f5-af98-7107788f8acf</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/299a7764-d275-4511-a564-5199c1693dc7/Embracing-your-blindspots-to-be-the-best-you-can-be-converted.mp3" length="6636942" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Fix a Mistake When You Own It?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Fix a Mistake When You Own It?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Mistakes are inevitable when working with people, but in this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the tough yet rewarding process of owning and fixing them. They discuss how navigating the messiness of human relationships requires both humility and strategy, offering practical advice on how to repair mistakes while maintaining trust and respect. Through real-life examples, Susan and Tessa explore how leaders can approach difficult situations with accountability and grace. Tune in to discover how taking ownership can strengthen your leadership and foster deeper connections with your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mistakes are inevitable when working with people, but in this episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the tough yet rewarding process of owning and fixing them. They discuss how navigating the messiness of human relationships requires both humility and strategy, offering practical advice on how to repair mistakes while maintaining trust and respect. Through real-life examples, Susan and Tessa explore how leaders can approach difficult situations with accountability and grace. Tune in to discover how taking ownership can strengthen your leadership and foster deeper connections with your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">616b8611-3527-4096-8307-a99540bf2ec8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a81d27be-52b1-4cce-ad97-35b0b86f4e5d/How-do-you-fix-a-mistake-when-you-own-it-converted.mp3" length="5172726" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Holding Individuals Accountable Is Hard</title><itunes:title>Holding Individuals Accountable Is Hard</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, holding individuals accountable can be a difficult task, but it's essential for growth. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore why pausing to address accountability is crucial—without it, people may not even realize their actions are problematic. They emphasize the need for bravery and meaningful conversations to address blind spots and guide staff toward professionalism. Susan and Tessa share strategies for engaging in these tough yet necessary discussions, helping leaders foster a culture of continuous improvement and development. Tune in to learn how to use accountability as a powerful tool for growth and leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a leader, holding individuals accountable can be a difficult task, but it's essential for growth. In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore why pausing to address accountability is crucial—without it, people may not even realize their actions are problematic. They emphasize the need for bravery and meaningful conversations to address blind spots and guide staff toward professionalism. Susan and Tessa share strategies for engaging in these tough yet necessary discussions, helping leaders foster a culture of continuous improvement and development. Tune in to learn how to use accountability as a powerful tool for growth and leadership.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0dd97889-ea09-47c5-b20e-00fab643f71a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d159fabd-bdb0-4c30-b310-8661169df82a/Holding-Individuals-Accountable-Is-Hard-converted.mp3" length="7521553" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>41</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What was I thinking, I just created more conflict for myself?</title><itunes:title>What was I thinking, I just created more conflict for myself?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful conversation, Susan and Tessa dive into the moments when leaders unintentionally create more conflict by relaxing accountability, communication, or reacting poorly under pressure. They explore Marlene Chism’s five stages of conflict to help navigate and resolve tensions more effectively. By breaking down the stages, Susan and Tessa provide wisdom on how to identify the root of conflict, manage emotions, and prevent situations from escalating. This conversation offers practical tools for leaders to stay proactive, maintain healthy communication, and address negative behavior before it spirals into larger issues. Tune in to learn how to handle conflict with more clarity and control.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful conversation, Susan and Tessa dive into the moments when leaders unintentionally create more conflict by relaxing accountability, communication, or reacting poorly under pressure. They explore Marlene Chism’s five stages of conflict to help navigate and resolve tensions more effectively. By breaking down the stages, Susan and Tessa provide wisdom on how to identify the root of conflict, manage emotions, and prevent situations from escalating. This conversation offers practical tools for leaders to stay proactive, maintain healthy communication, and address negative behavior before it spirals into larger issues. Tune in to learn how to handle conflict with more clarity and control.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">279742f3-07ad-407b-ae14-c84cbaa85d10</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8709e397-5ae3-4079-8d61-edc0c9f832bd/What-was-I-thinking-I-just-created-more-conflict-for-myself-con.mp3" length="5742248" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>40</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Navigating Negative Dynamics in the Workplace</title><itunes:title>Navigating Negative Dynamics in the Workplace</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenge of navigating negative dynamics in the workplace. They share strategies for leaders to foster healthy relationships and open communication, essential for transforming the culture of a school. By addressing toxic behaviors and promoting a more supportive environment, Susan and Tessa provide actionable steps to help leaders shift the dynamics from negative to positive. Tune in to learn how to build a stronger, more cohesive team and create a school culture that thrives on trust, respect, and collaboration!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenge of navigating negative dynamics in the workplace. They share strategies for leaders to foster healthy relationships and open communication, essential for transforming the culture of a school. By addressing toxic behaviors and promoting a more supportive environment, Susan and Tessa provide actionable steps to help leaders shift the dynamics from negative to positive. Tune in to learn how to build a stronger, more cohesive team and create a school culture that thrives on trust, respect, and collaboration!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dfd579d3-598c-467f-9f95-b906ccfdd703</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3256e47e-3e40-4184-a8fd-258cdbc83410/Navigating-Negative-Dynamics-in-the-Workplace-converted.mp3" length="8412328" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>39</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What do your walls say?</title><itunes:title>What do your walls say?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Tessa and Susan explore the powerful impact of the messages displayed on your walls—whether in offices, classrooms, or throughout the school. They discuss how everything from posters and classroom rules to wall colors and empty spaces can influence emotions, school culture, and connections among staff and students. Tessa and Susan delve into the importance of creating an environment that fosters positivity, inclusivity, and healthy connections. They offer insights on how to be intentional with your space to ensure that the visuals in your school or office reflect and reinforce the values and messages you want to communicate. Tune in to discover how the physical environment can be a silent yet impactful tool in leadership and community building.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Tessa and Susan explore the powerful impact of the messages displayed on your walls—whether in offices, classrooms, or throughout the school. They discuss how everything from posters and classroom rules to wall colors and empty spaces can influence emotions, school culture, and connections among staff and students. Tessa and Susan delve into the importance of creating an environment that fosters positivity, inclusivity, and healthy connections. They offer insights on how to be intentional with your space to ensure that the visuals in your school or office reflect and reinforce the values and messages you want to communicate. Tune in to discover how the physical environment can be a silent yet impactful tool in leadership and community building.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef54587-2699-4ed4-95c2-ce32592e78cb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/664010cf-dcc0-4245-b5cc-3d9fab545461/What-do-your-walls-say-converted.mp3" length="6268511" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>38</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Expecting People to be Mind Readers?</title><itunes:title>Are You Expecting People to be Mind Readers?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa address the common pitfall of assuming others can read your mind. They discuss how unclear communication can lead to frustration, confusion, and even conflict within a team. Through various real-life scenarios, they highlight how leaders often overlook the need to provide clear and detailed instructions, forgetting that educators may not have the background knowledge needed to understand expectations. Susan and Tessa emphasize the importance of being specific, clear, and intentional in all forms of communication to avoid misunderstandings and create a more cohesive and efficient work environment. Tune in to learn how to prevent miscommunication and set your team up for success.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa address the common pitfall of assuming others can read your mind. They discuss how unclear communication can lead to frustration, confusion, and even conflict within a team. Through various real-life scenarios, they highlight how leaders often overlook the need to provide clear and detailed instructions, forgetting that educators may not have the background knowledge needed to understand expectations. Susan and Tessa emphasize the importance of being specific, clear, and intentional in all forms of communication to avoid misunderstandings and create a more cohesive and efficient work environment. Tune in to learn how to prevent miscommunication and set your team up for success.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6b95e58b-99cf-4996-95a4-d5cd6a923dd3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a12c47f6-d99e-4dc1-a708-daf7c0a54460/Are-you-expecting-people-to-be-mind-readers-converted.mp3" length="5450042" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>37</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Repeat - It&apos;s Okay to Be a Broken Record</title><itunes:title>Repeat - It&apos;s Okay to Be a Broken Record</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this compelling episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the value of repetition in leadership communication. They explore the concept of "7 by 7"—repeating key messages seven times over seven days—as an effective strategy to ensure your vision and important information stick. With the constant noise and distractions in today’s workplace, they emphasize that being a "broken record" isn’t a flaw but a necessity. Susan and Tessa share practical tips on how to reinforce your message without losing impact, helping leaders combat short attention spans and keep their team focused on what truly matters. Tune in to discover how to make your message resonate amid the busy and chaotic educational environment!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this compelling episode, Susan and Tessa dive into the value of repetition in leadership communication. They explore the concept of "7 by 7"—repeating key messages seven times over seven days—as an effective strategy to ensure your vision and important information stick. With the constant noise and distractions in today’s workplace, they emphasize that being a "broken record" isn’t a flaw but a necessity. Susan and Tessa share practical tips on how to reinforce your message without losing impact, helping leaders combat short attention spans and keep their team focused on what truly matters. Tune in to discover how to make your message resonate amid the busy and chaotic educational environment!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6cce2f31-e13c-4982-b81a-353b00a6a7e8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bf963fc5-59e7-45de-aad1-4455be4c84e1/Repeat-It-s-okay-to-be-a-broken-record-converted.mp3" length="4910613" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>36</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Don&apos;t Be Afraid to Show People You Care</title><itunes:title>Don&apos;t Be Afraid to Show People You Care</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the importance of showing genuine care and compassion as a leader. They discuss how simple acts of kindness and thoughtful communication can build strong, trusting relationships within your team. By sharing personal stories and practical tips, Susan and Tessa highlight how caring for others not only fosters a positive work environment but also strengthens team dynamics. This conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t just about making decisions—it's also about connecting with people on a human level. Tune in to learn how to lead with heart and make a meaningful impact.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the importance of showing genuine care and compassion as a leader. They discuss how simple acts of kindness and thoughtful communication can build strong, trusting relationships within your team. By sharing personal stories and practical tips, Susan and Tessa highlight how caring for others not only fosters a positive work environment but also strengthens team dynamics. This conversation is a reminder that leadership isn’t just about making decisions—it's also about connecting with people on a human level. Tune in to learn how to lead with heart and make a meaningful impact.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0b2840fd-2519-4d8e-bf39-ce5405554734</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 13:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/961aecd1-4e10-4758-84a9-e422d7486ff0/Don-t-be-afraid-to-show-people-you-care-converted.mp3" length="5746375" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>35</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Support Staff Who Don&apos;t Like Each Other?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Support Staff Who Don&apos;t Like Each Other?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenging issue of supporting staff members who don’t get along. Drawing from their own leadership experiences, they share practical strategies and actionable tips for navigating this difficult situation. Susan and Tessa provide insights on how to mediate conflicts, promote a positive work environment, and help team members find common ground. This episode offers valuable guidance for both aspiring and current leaders looking to foster a cohesive and collaborative team, even in the face of interpersonal conflicts.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa tackle the challenging issue of supporting staff members who don’t get along. Drawing from their own leadership experiences, they share practical strategies and actionable tips for navigating this difficult situation. Susan and Tessa provide insights on how to mediate conflicts, promote a positive work environment, and help team members find common ground. This episode offers valuable guidance for both aspiring and current leaders looking to foster a cohesive and collaborative team, even in the face of interpersonal conflicts.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">039a37bb-4bae-45c0-a948-138927ee839d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 15:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a0b7ebe8-1024-40cd-b52b-264ac6bd7106/How-do-you-support-staff-who-don-t-like-each-other-converted.mp3" length="6081474" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode></item><item><title>There is NO Such Thing as Perfection</title><itunes:title>There is NO Such Thing as Perfection</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, Susan and Tessa discuss the concept that "There is NO Such Thing as Perfection" and how embracing this truth can transform your leadership approach. They offer valuable tips for handling mistakes as leaders, emphasizing the importance of owning errors, apologizing sincerely, and reflecting on missteps. Susan and Tessa also guide listeners on how to effectively correct wrongs and grow from these experiences. Tune in to learn how to respond to mistakes with grace and resilience, turning them into opportunities for personal and professional development.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, Susan and Tessa discuss the concept that "There is NO Such Thing as Perfection" and how embracing this truth can transform your leadership approach. They offer valuable tips for handling mistakes as leaders, emphasizing the importance of owning errors, apologizing sincerely, and reflecting on missteps. Susan and Tessa also guide listeners on how to effectively correct wrongs and grow from these experiences. Tune in to learn how to respond to mistakes with grace and resilience, turning them into opportunities for personal and professional development.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8f192fc6-583b-4db2-9f44-8978268e8dcc</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5b5d002e-b354-410a-a86f-0fea8be631a6/There-s-no-such-thing-as-perfection-converted.mp3" length="5046712" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What to Consider as You Put a Team Together</title><itunes:title>What to Consider as You Put a Team Together</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the key components of building a healthy and productive educational team. They discuss the critical factors to consider when assembling a team, from selecting individuals with complementary skills to fostering a culture of collaboration and trust. Susan and Tessa share insights on how to balance diverse strengths and personalities, ensuring that each team member contributes to a positive and effective work environment. Tune in to discover essential strategies for putting together a team that thrives and drives success in your educational setting.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the key components of building a healthy and productive educational team. They discuss the critical factors to consider when assembling a team, from selecting individuals with complementary skills to fostering a culture of collaboration and trust. Susan and Tessa share insights on how to balance diverse strengths and personalities, ensuring that each team member contributes to a positive and effective work environment. Tune in to discover essential strategies for putting together a team that thrives and drives success in your educational setting.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6d6a8980-0302-4d4e-ad2d-081c87a1ceb6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2024 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ef5304c6-2e43-4df5-94d3-0c860ff004cc/What-to-consider-as-you-put-a-team-together-converted.mp3" length="7052968" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode></item><item><title>There is No &quot;I&quot; in Team</title><itunes:title>There is No &quot;I&quot; in Team</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the concept of "There is No 'I' in Team," highlighting how egos and titles can hinder effective leadership. They discuss the importance of setting aside personal pride and focusing on collaborative efforts to achieve team success. Susan and Tessa offer practical strategies for leaders to manage their egos, promote teamwork, and create an environment where every member feels valued and integral to the group's achievements. Tune in to learn how to lead with humility and foster a truly team-oriented culture.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the concept of "There is No 'I' in Team," highlighting how egos and titles can hinder effective leadership. They discuss the importance of setting aside personal pride and focusing on collaborative efforts to achieve team success. Susan and Tessa offer practical strategies for leaders to manage their egos, promote teamwork, and create an environment where every member feels valued and integral to the group's achievements. Tune in to learn how to lead with humility and foster a truly team-oriented culture.</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8406fc9b-31ff-4a6b-a38e-d19283698479</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e34086b7-2ac3-49f9-bdd5-7289eb425af4/There-is-no-I-in-Team-converted.mp3" length="5196236" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Ratio of Positive Comments</title><itunes:title>The Ratio of Positive Comments</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa discuss the vital role of positive language and communication in leadership. They explore the concept of the "Ratio of Positive Comments" and how maintaining a higher ratio of positive to negative feedback can significantly impact team morale and productivity. Susan and Tessa share insights and strategies for incorporating more positive communication into daily interactions, fostering a supportive and motivating environment. This episode provides practical advice on how leaders can use positive language to build trust, encourage collaboration, and enhance overall team performance. Tune in to learn the transformative power of positive comments in your leadership approach.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa discuss the vital role of positive language and communication in leadership. They explore the concept of the "Ratio of Positive Comments" and how maintaining a higher ratio of positive to negative feedback can significantly impact team morale and productivity. Susan and Tessa share insights and strategies for incorporating more positive communication into daily interactions, fostering a supportive and motivating environment. This episode provides practical advice on how leaders can use positive language to build trust, encourage collaboration, and enhance overall team performance. Tune in to learn the transformative power of positive comments in your leadership approach.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fb5fdee7-2dbc-4654-b417-1f9c5475e796</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2024 06:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/85cdb83f-62d2-43aa-8ab9-ea9fe7708c2d/The-Ratio-of-Positive-Comments-converted.mp3" length="4198568" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:00</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Beginning Relationships Again After Long Breaks</title><itunes:title>Beginning Relationships Again After Long Breaks</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the art of reconnecting with staff after long school breaks, such as holidays and summer vacations. They delve into the challenges of reestablishing relationships and creating an inclusive campus culture. Susan and Tessa share practical strategies for reigniting connections, encouraging open communication, and making everyone feel welcomed and valued. This discussion offers insightful advice on how to start the new term on a positive note, ensuring a cohesive and supportive environment for all educators. Tune in for tips on fostering strong relationships and revitalizing your campus community after time away.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Susan and Tessa explore the art of reconnecting with staff after long school breaks, such as holidays and summer vacations. They delve into the challenges of reestablishing relationships and creating an inclusive campus culture. Susan and Tessa share practical strategies for reigniting connections, encouraging open communication, and making everyone feel welcomed and valued. This discussion offers insightful advice on how to start the new term on a positive note, ensuring a cohesive and supportive environment for all educators. Tune in for tips on fostering strong relationships and revitalizing your campus community after time away.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c52f6a83-3e26-4c79-baa6-5566101cb6da</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6594d5de-2ad7-4839-ac47-4ed595c4c209/Beginning-relationships-again-after-breaks-converted.mp3" length="3584899" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Onboard with Success?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Onboard with Success?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>As the new school year kicks off, Susan and Tessa dive into the essential steps for successful onboarding in your school or district. They emphasize the importance of building quality relationships, sharing key information, and fostering a sense of community among educators. Susan and Tessa offer practical tips and strategies to ensure new staff members feel welcomed, informed, and integrated into the school culture. By focusing on effective onboarding, they highlight how leaders can create a supportive and cohesive environment that sets the stage for a productive and collaborative school year. Tune in to discover how to onboard with success and strengthen your educational community from the very start.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the new school year kicks off, Susan and Tessa dive into the essential steps for successful onboarding in your school or district. They emphasize the importance of building quality relationships, sharing key information, and fostering a sense of community among educators. Susan and Tessa offer practical tips and strategies to ensure new staff members feel welcomed, informed, and integrated into the school culture. By focusing on effective onboarding, they highlight how leaders can create a supportive and cohesive environment that sets the stage for a productive and collaborative school year. Tune in to discover how to onboard with success and strengthen your educational community from the very start.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">6d6328b5-19cd-43a5-9707-461c867a7cf1</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f70bc373-b5b2-41a3-abb7-cde00501553b/How-Do-You-Onboard-with-Success-converted.mp3" length="6940328" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Making Changes Quickly or Slowly?</title><itunes:title>Making Changes Quickly or Slowly?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode titled "Making Changes Quickly or Slowly?" Susan and Tessa provide valuable insights and suggestions for new leaders navigating the complexities of implementing change on a school campus. They discuss the challenges of introducing new initiatives in the educational environment and weigh the benefits and drawbacks of making swift versus gradual changes. Drawing from their experiences, Susan and Tessa offer practical advice on assessing the campus culture, building trust, and strategically planning for effective transformation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how to balance urgency with patience, and learn strategies to lead change in education smoothly and successfully!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode titled "Making Changes Quickly or Slowly?" Susan and Tessa provide valuable insights and suggestions for new leaders navigating the complexities of implementing change on a school campus. They discuss the challenges of introducing new initiatives in the educational environment and weigh the benefits and drawbacks of making swift versus gradual changes. Drawing from their experiences, Susan and Tessa offer practical advice on assessing the campus culture, building trust, and strategically planning for effective transformation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how to balance urgency with patience, and learn strategies to lead change in education smoothly and successfully!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">63c619c9-4f60-42f4-9933-dc2113290aef</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c6c7a72e-0607-4eb5-a62d-ce14dcf8f72a/Making-changes-quickly-or-slowly-converted.mp3" length="5389334" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Deal With Being Interrupted As A Leader?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Deal With Being Interrupted As A Leader?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Interruptions are a daily challenge for leaders, often disrupting focus and productivity. In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the art of managing interruptions effectively. They share personal anecdotes and practical strategies for setting boundaries, maintaining control over time and tasks, and communicating assertively. With insights on preserving your leadership presence and keeping your work on track, Susan and Tessa offer valuable advice for navigating the complexities of being a leader amidst constant disruptions. Tune in to learn how to handle interruptions with grace and efficiency, ensuring your leadership effectiveness remains uncompromised.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interruptions are a daily challenge for leaders, often disrupting focus and productivity. In this episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the art of managing interruptions effectively. They share personal anecdotes and practical strategies for setting boundaries, maintaining control over time and tasks, and communicating assertively. With insights on preserving your leadership presence and keeping your work on track, Susan and Tessa offer valuable advice for navigating the complexities of being a leader amidst constant disruptions. Tune in to learn how to handle interruptions with grace and efficiency, ensuring your leadership effectiveness remains uncompromised.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1b6ad1e1-9fdd-4424-8e42-6c4776e99df5</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a9cb8027-8642-4e25-a924-5fc3e079f488/How-do-you-deal-with-being-interrupted-as-a-leader-converted.mp3" length="6981131" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Support Your Staff When They Don&apos;t Like Each Other?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Support Your Staff When They Don&apos;t Like Each Other?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How Do You Support Your Staff When They Don't Like Each Other?" Susan and Tessa tackle the complex issue of managing team dynamics and conflict in the workplace. They explore effective strategies for supporting staff members who have interpersonal conflicts, ensuring that personal differences don't hinder team performance or morale. Drawing from their extensive experience in leadership and conflict resolution, Susan and Tessa share practical tips for fostering a positive work environment, facilitating open communication, and mediating disputes. Whether you're a leader dealing with team tensions or an employee looking for ways to navigate workplace conflict, this episode provides valuable insights and actionable strategies for maintaining a cohesive and productive team. Tune in to learn how to support your staff through challenges and create a harmonious work environment.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How Do You Support Your Staff When They Don't Like Each Other?" Susan and Tessa tackle the complex issue of managing team dynamics and conflict in the workplace. They explore effective strategies for supporting staff members who have interpersonal conflicts, ensuring that personal differences don't hinder team performance or morale. Drawing from their extensive experience in leadership and conflict resolution, Susan and Tessa share practical tips for fostering a positive work environment, facilitating open communication, and mediating disputes. Whether you're a leader dealing with team tensions or an employee looking for ways to navigate workplace conflict, this episode provides valuable insights and actionable strategies for maintaining a cohesive and productive team. Tune in to learn how to support your staff through challenges and create a harmonious work environment.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b586804e-6996-4eb2-8b3d-e7f2e1c629b3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cb2bac0e-e118-420e-9903-805afd0c843c/How-do-you-support-staff-who-don-t-like-each-other-converted.mp3" length="6081474" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Quiet Your Brain?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Quiet Your Brain?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How Do You Quiet Your Brain?" Susan and Tessa explore the vital topic of mental calm and focus. They discuss various techniques and strategies to help you quiet the noise in your mind, manage stress, and find inner peace amidst the demands of daily life. Drawing from their own experiences and expert insights, Susan and Tessa offer practical advice on mindfulness practices, meditation, and other tools to enhance mental clarity and well-being. Whether you're a leader seeking to maintain focus or anyone looking to improve mental health, this episode provides valuable guidance on achieving a quieter, more centered mind. Tune in to discover how you can quiet your brain and embrace a more peaceful and productive life.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How Do You Quiet Your Brain?" Susan and Tessa explore the vital topic of mental calm and focus. They discuss various techniques and strategies to help you quiet the noise in your mind, manage stress, and find inner peace amidst the demands of daily life. Drawing from their own experiences and expert insights, Susan and Tessa offer practical advice on mindfulness practices, meditation, and other tools to enhance mental clarity and well-being. Whether you're a leader seeking to maintain focus or anyone looking to improve mental health, this episode provides valuable guidance on achieving a quieter, more centered mind. Tune in to discover how you can quiet your brain and embrace a more peaceful and productive life.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0bf4ccb0-10fd-418b-8381-866a879201d9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e47447e3-a004-4ea4-a08d-7300b40c3eb9/How-do-you-quiet-your-brain-converted.mp3" length="7608384" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Loyalty to the Absent</title><itunes:title>Loyalty to the Absent</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this crucial episode titled "Loyalty to the Absent," Susan and Tessa address the challenging issue of handling negative talk about colleagues in the workplace. They discuss the importance of maintaining respect and loyalty to those who are not present, emphasizing how gossip and negative conversations can erode trust and morale within a team. Susan and Tessa share effective strategies for confronting those who speak poorly about others, encouraging direct communication and resolution of issues. They highlight the role of leaders in fostering an environment where crucial conversations are encouraged, kindness is prioritized, and discipline in communication is maintained. Tune in to learn how to navigate these difficult situations and cultivate a culture of respect and integrity within your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this crucial episode titled "Loyalty to the Absent," Susan and Tessa address the challenging issue of handling negative talk about colleagues in the workplace. They discuss the importance of maintaining respect and loyalty to those who are not present, emphasizing how gossip and negative conversations can erode trust and morale within a team. Susan and Tessa share effective strategies for confronting those who speak poorly about others, encouraging direct communication and resolution of issues. They highlight the role of leaders in fostering an environment where crucial conversations are encouraged, kindness is prioritized, and discipline in communication is maintained. Tune in to learn how to navigate these difficult situations and cultivate a culture of respect and integrity within your team.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">27bb4b67-a5f5-4861-a549-7f7bd0291c05</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8b79e7d2-d33c-420c-a9af-32e6d9fece23/Loyalty-to-the-absent-converted.mp3" length="7325321" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Are You Going to Be Happy with Your Future Self? Time for a Check-In...</title><itunes:title>Are You Going to Be Happy with Your Future Self? Time for a Check-In...</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in this enlightening episode titled "Are You Going to Be Happy with Your Future Self? Time for a Check-In..." as they delve into the power of reflection and visualization. Using a fascinating science experiment on visualization, they explain how picturing your future self can significantly impact your ability to achieve your goals and enhance personal growth. Susan and Tessa share practical techniques for incorporating visualization into your daily routine, helping you align your actions with your long-term aspirations. They emphasize the importance of regular self-check-ins to ensure that you are on the right path to becoming the best version of yourself. Tune in to discover how these tools can be transformative in your journey toward self-improvement and goal attainment, and learn how to create a future you’ll be proud and happy to embrace!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in this enlightening episode titled "Are You Going to Be Happy with Your Future Self? Time for a Check-In..." as they delve into the power of reflection and visualization. Using a fascinating science experiment on visualization, they explain how picturing your future self can significantly impact your ability to achieve your goals and enhance personal growth. Susan and Tessa share practical techniques for incorporating visualization into your daily routine, helping you align your actions with your long-term aspirations. They emphasize the importance of regular self-check-ins to ensure that you are on the right path to becoming the best version of yourself. Tune in to discover how these tools can be transformative in your journey toward self-improvement and goal attainment, and learn how to create a future you’ll be proud and happy to embrace!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">5e69ed40-9d0f-49f2-a98e-1bb151ed7334</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/174c9fbf-7a13-4254-a412-54a1f08fb11e/Are-you-going-to-be-happy-with-your-future-self-converted.mp3" length="8972602" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:41</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How Do You Use Your Power?</title><itunes:title>How Do You Use Your Power?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in this thought-provoking episode titled "How Do You Use Your Power?" as they delve into the dynamics of leadership power. They discuss the contrasting concepts of "Power over" versus "Power with," highlighting the differences between authoritative and collaborative leadership styles. Through engaging dialogue, Susan and Tessa explore how relying on power as a short-term strategy or quick fix can be tempting but often falls short of fostering sustainable and positive outcomes. Instead, they advocate for a more collaborative approach that empowers and engages team members, leading to more effective and lasting results. </p><p>Throughout the episode, Susan and Tessa provide valuable insights into how leaders can harness their power responsibly and create a more inclusive and supportive environment. Tune in to discover how to transition from using power over people to working powerfully with them, and transform your leadership approach for the better.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in this thought-provoking episode titled "How Do You Use Your Power?" as they delve into the dynamics of leadership power. They discuss the contrasting concepts of "Power over" versus "Power with," highlighting the differences between authoritative and collaborative leadership styles. Through engaging dialogue, Susan and Tessa explore how relying on power as a short-term strategy or quick fix can be tempting but often falls short of fostering sustainable and positive outcomes. Instead, they advocate for a more collaborative approach that empowers and engages team members, leading to more effective and lasting results. </p><p>Throughout the episode, Susan and Tessa provide valuable insights into how leaders can harness their power responsibly and create a more inclusive and supportive environment. Tune in to discover how to transition from using power over people to working powerfully with them, and transform your leadership approach for the better.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">86c7dcc3-6e9d-4186-ad62-05e26dc589e0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2024 11:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e3af8fec-2612-4858-b327-38f32c80483f/How-do-you-use-your-Power-converted.mp3" length="5033128" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What Kind of Pilot Are You?</title><itunes:title>What Kind of Pilot Are You?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful episode titled "What Kind of Pilot are You?" Susan and Tessa draw a compelling analogy between leadership and piloting an aircraft. They explore how effective leaders, much like pilots, must navigate tough situations by clearly communicating expectations, engaging in difficult conversations, and making crucial decisions that impact their teams. Using the metaphor of a pilot who prioritizes various factors for the greater good of passengers, Susan and Tessa discuss the importance of integrity, fairness, and resilience in leadership. They emphasize that while leadership is inherently challenging and not every decision will be popular, it is essential to maintain a principled approach in managing staff and making decisions. </p><p>Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for leading with conviction and compassion, ensuring that your leadership style supports the well-being and success of your entire team!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this insightful episode titled "What Kind of Pilot are You?" Susan and Tessa draw a compelling analogy between leadership and piloting an aircraft. They explore how effective leaders, much like pilots, must navigate tough situations by clearly communicating expectations, engaging in difficult conversations, and making crucial decisions that impact their teams. Using the metaphor of a pilot who prioritizes various factors for the greater good of passengers, Susan and Tessa discuss the importance of integrity, fairness, and resilience in leadership. They emphasize that while leadership is inherently challenging and not every decision will be popular, it is essential to maintain a principled approach in managing staff and making decisions. </p><p>Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for leading with conviction and compassion, ensuring that your leadership style supports the well-being and success of your entire team!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e4533dfe-de8e-433b-8f2e-28a1a6cbaa36</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a72010d6-cfcf-4b8e-8522-bff7c0721e83/What-kind-of-pilot-are-you-converted.mp3" length="5284948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode></item><item><title>This One&apos;s for You!</title><itunes:title>This One&apos;s for You!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this special episode titled "This One's for You," Susan and Tessa celebrate the incredible dedication and resilience of educators who have gone above and beyond for their students, staff, and parents through a challenging year. Join them as they pause to reflect on the numerous struggles faced and overcome, and take a moment to appreciate the profound impact that teachers and school leaders have made in their communities. Susan and Tessa share heartfelt stories, expressions of gratitude, and inspiring examples of difference-making that have occurred despite the difficulties. This episode is a tribute to all the educators who have persevered with unwavering commitment and passion.  Tune in to celebrate the tireless efforts and remarkable achievements of those who are shaping the future, one day at a time!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special episode titled "This One's for You," Susan and Tessa celebrate the incredible dedication and resilience of educators who have gone above and beyond for their students, staff, and parents through a challenging year. Join them as they pause to reflect on the numerous struggles faced and overcome, and take a moment to appreciate the profound impact that teachers and school leaders have made in their communities. Susan and Tessa share heartfelt stories, expressions of gratitude, and inspiring examples of difference-making that have occurred despite the difficulties. This episode is a tribute to all the educators who have persevered with unwavering commitment and passion.  Tune in to celebrate the tireless efforts and remarkable achievements of those who are shaping the future, one day at a time!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4618dd73-fc01-406b-a42f-14808fa24d6d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2024 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/41349c8f-99fe-47a5-8194-1274b0f47178/This-One-s-for-You-converted.mp3" length="7239848" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Ripple Effect is Contagious</title><itunes:title>The Ripple Effect is Contagious</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tess in an inspiring episode as they explore the transformative power of kindness and positivity in leadership. Drawing inspiration from a poignant story by Simon Sinek, they delve into the concept of the ripple effect and how small acts of kindness can have far-reaching impacts on individuals and communities. In this insightful discussion, Susan and Tess reflect on the importance of intentionally showing up with positivity and compassion as leaders, and the profound ripple effects this can have on organizational culture, morale, and productivity. Through heartfelt anecdotes and personal insights, they share practical strategies for cultivating a ripple effect of kindness in our daily interactions and leadership practices. Tune in to discover how you can harness the ripple effect to create a more compassionate and thriving workplace and community!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tess in an inspiring episode as they explore the transformative power of kindness and positivity in leadership. Drawing inspiration from a poignant story by Simon Sinek, they delve into the concept of the ripple effect and how small acts of kindness can have far-reaching impacts on individuals and communities. In this insightful discussion, Susan and Tess reflect on the importance of intentionally showing up with positivity and compassion as leaders, and the profound ripple effects this can have on organizational culture, morale, and productivity. Through heartfelt anecdotes and personal insights, they share practical strategies for cultivating a ripple effect of kindness in our daily interactions and leadership practices. Tune in to discover how you can harness the ripple effect to create a more compassionate and thriving workplace and community!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f93057c5-d4ec-4e57-af6b-ceafa496c869</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 13:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c7d6f091-f9ec-447f-87ae-8ba7fb84783e/The-ripple-effect-is-contagious-converted.mp3" length="5311071" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Sorry Not Sorry</title><itunes:title>Sorry Not Sorry</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a thought-provoking episode as they explore the power of the word "sorry" and its implications in leadership and communication. In this insightful discussion, they examine how overusing apologies can diminish their impact and hinder effective problem-solving. Drawing from their experiences in leadership and interpersonal dynamics, Susan and Tessa share practical strategies for shifting from reflexive apologies to more empathetic and empowering responses. They delve into the distinction between sympathy and empathy, highlighting the importance of genuinely understanding and supporting others' experiences. Throughout the conversation, they offer alternative statements and approaches, such as asking "How can I help?" instead of defaulting to "I'm sorry," to foster connection, accountability, and meaningful resolution. Tune in to explore the nuances of apologies and discover how to communicate with authenticity, compassion, and effectiveness!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a thought-provoking episode as they explore the power of the word "sorry" and its implications in leadership and communication. In this insightful discussion, they examine how overusing apologies can diminish their impact and hinder effective problem-solving. Drawing from their experiences in leadership and interpersonal dynamics, Susan and Tessa share practical strategies for shifting from reflexive apologies to more empathetic and empowering responses. They delve into the distinction between sympathy and empathy, highlighting the importance of genuinely understanding and supporting others' experiences. Throughout the conversation, they offer alternative statements and approaches, such as asking "How can I help?" instead of defaulting to "I'm sorry," to foster connection, accountability, and meaningful resolution. Tune in to explore the nuances of apologies and discover how to communicate with authenticity, compassion, and effectiveness!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">be994e30-a86e-48ac-80bb-942a5ef22341</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5cb32c02-eb25-4e1f-a3ce-b1ce3ccfebaa/Sorry-Not-Sorry-converted.mp3" length="5028008" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Should Schools Be Like Disneyland?</title><itunes:title>Should Schools Be Like Disneyland?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Susan and Tessa share a thought-provoking episode as they compare and contrast schools with the magical world of Disneyland. In this engaging discussion, they explore the similarities and differences between these two environments, including how they make people feel and the overarching goals of each place. Drawing from their experiences in education and leadership, Susan and Tessa share insightful observations on the elements that contribute to the atmosphere and experiences in schools and theme parks. Tune in to explore the intriguing question: Should schools be more like Disneyland?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Susan and Tessa share a thought-provoking episode as they compare and contrast schools with the magical world of Disneyland. In this engaging discussion, they explore the similarities and differences between these two environments, including how they make people feel and the overarching goals of each place. Drawing from their experiences in education and leadership, Susan and Tessa share insightful observations on the elements that contribute to the atmosphere and experiences in schools and theme parks. Tune in to explore the intriguing question: Should schools be more like Disneyland?</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">3a78699b-6b81-4e39-9f0b-2901a3e0386d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 09:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2a4ecbcd-a94f-45a4-98b5-ba8ae51a80d3/Should-schools-be-like-Disneyland-converted.mp3" length="5828556" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Who are your Marigolds and Are you a Marigold?</title><itunes:title>Who are your Marigolds and Are you a Marigold?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to an enlightening episode of our podcast featuring Susan and Tessa! Join us for a captivating conversation titled "Who are Your Marigolds and Are You a Marigold?" as we explore the profound metaphor of marigolds in gardening and its powerful implications for education, leadership, and campus culture.</p><p>Drawing parallels between the protective nature of marigolds in gardens and their counterparts in educational settings, Susan and Tessa delve into the importance of fostering supportive relationships and cultivating a nurturing environment. Discover how being a "marigold" – someone who uplifts and supports others – can positively impact leadership dynamics and campus culture.</p><p>Whether you're an educator, a leader, or simply curious about the intersections of gardening and leadership, this episode offers valuable insights and thought-provoking reflections. Tune in and join us on a journey to explore the transformative potential of being a marigold in your community.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to an enlightening episode of our podcast featuring Susan and Tessa! Join us for a captivating conversation titled "Who are Your Marigolds and Are You a Marigold?" as we explore the profound metaphor of marigolds in gardening and its powerful implications for education, leadership, and campus culture.</p><p>Drawing parallels between the protective nature of marigolds in gardens and their counterparts in educational settings, Susan and Tessa delve into the importance of fostering supportive relationships and cultivating a nurturing environment. Discover how being a "marigold" – someone who uplifts and supports others – can positively impact leadership dynamics and campus culture.</p><p>Whether you're an educator, a leader, or simply curious about the intersections of gardening and leadership, this episode offers valuable insights and thought-provoking reflections. Tune in and join us on a journey to explore the transformative potential of being a marigold in your community.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b9776872-fc0f-4bfb-94e6-a61e84ca0392</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/38aedde2-cf40-44fe-8f51-477bdff0c1c0/Who-are-your-Marigolds-and-are-you-a-Marigold-converted.mp3" length="4924511" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Breaking the Rush: Do You Feel You Are Always in a Hurry?</title><itunes:title>Breaking the Rush: Do You Feel You Are Always in a Hurry?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a reflective episode as they explore the common phenomenon of feeling constantly rushed, especially in educational leadership roles. In this discussion, they offer practical strategies and insights to help educational leaders break free from the cycle of perpetual hurry and reclaim a sense of calm and purpose in their work and lives. </p><p>Drawing from their experiences and expertise, Susan and Tessa share actionable tips for prioritizing tasks, managing time effectively, and fostering a mindset of mindfulness and intentionality. Whether you're an educator, administrator, or school leader, this conversation provides valuable guidance for navigating the demands of the education sector with greater ease and balance. Tune in to discover how to break the rush and cultivate a more fulfilling and sustainable approach to leadership in education.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a reflective episode as they explore the common phenomenon of feeling constantly rushed, especially in educational leadership roles. In this discussion, they offer practical strategies and insights to help educational leaders break free from the cycle of perpetual hurry and reclaim a sense of calm and purpose in their work and lives. </p><p>Drawing from their experiences and expertise, Susan and Tessa share actionable tips for prioritizing tasks, managing time effectively, and fostering a mindset of mindfulness and intentionality. Whether you're an educator, administrator, or school leader, this conversation provides valuable guidance for navigating the demands of the education sector with greater ease and balance. Tune in to discover how to break the rush and cultivate a more fulfilling and sustainable approach to leadership in education.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">55075f53-9cd0-4e7a-9140-a4b8b61f35cb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/da3562df-9d98-4ea8-a811-d4c1084b0bca/Breaking-the-rush-feel-and-you-are-always-in-a-hurry-converted.mp3" length="5988373" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Silence or Intentional Pauses</title><itunes:title>Silence or Intentional Pauses</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the often-overlooked aspect of communication: silence or intentional pauses. Join them as they explore the significance of incorporating moments of silence into conversations, presentations, and interpersonal interactions. Drawing from their expertise in communication and leadership, Susan and Tessa share insights on the power of intentional pauses to convey meaning, foster reflection, and deepen connection with others. Tune in to discover how embracing intentional pauses can enrich your communication practices and enhance your ability to connect with others on a deeper level.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this thought-provoking episode, Susan and Tessa delve into the often-overlooked aspect of communication: silence or intentional pauses. Join them as they explore the significance of incorporating moments of silence into conversations, presentations, and interpersonal interactions. Drawing from their expertise in communication and leadership, Susan and Tessa share insights on the power of intentional pauses to convey meaning, foster reflection, and deepen connection with others. Tune in to discover how embracing intentional pauses can enrich your communication practices and enhance your ability to connect with others on a deeper level.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she is a Certified NAESP National Principal Mentor.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f5cdc140-800f-4858-b9e9-394c8673ad07</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 12:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bd9bc064-f3d3-40bb-b594-993f3c2a6c5c/Silience-or-Intentional-Pauses-converted.mp3" length="5514042" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Trying is Dying, Doing is Succeeding!</title><itunes:title>Trying is Dying, Doing is Succeeding!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in an inspiring episode where they explore the transformative power of shifting your mindset from "trying" to "doing" when taking on new tasks or initiatives as a leader. In this discussion, they provide practical strategies and insights on overcoming self-doubt, embracing action, and cultivating a mindset of resilience and success. Drawing from their experiences in leadership and personal growth, Susan and Tessa offer valuable tips for stepping out of your comfort zone, overcoming obstacles, and achieving your goals with confidence and determination. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting out on your leadership journey, this conversation will empower you to adopt a proactive mindset that drives meaningful change and success. Tune in to learn how to turn "trying" into "doing" and unlock your full potential as a leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in an inspiring episode where they explore the transformative power of shifting your mindset from "trying" to "doing" when taking on new tasks or initiatives as a leader. In this discussion, they provide practical strategies and insights on overcoming self-doubt, embracing action, and cultivating a mindset of resilience and success. Drawing from their experiences in leadership and personal growth, Susan and Tessa offer valuable tips for stepping out of your comfort zone, overcoming obstacles, and achieving your goals with confidence and determination. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting out on your leadership journey, this conversation will empower you to adopt a proactive mindset that drives meaningful change and success. Tune in to learn how to turn "trying" into "doing" and unlock your full potential as a leader.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a69c16dc-ff77-4816-b5ec-1eb49e21b39b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/32e6314a-1595-4da4-9032-1a59432f617b/Trying-is-dying-Doing-is-succeeding-converted.mp3" length="3411916" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:04</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>12</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Ever Wish You Could Avoid a Meeting?</title><itunes:title>Ever Wish You Could Avoid a Meeting?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, join Susan and Tessa as they tackle the common dilemma of wishing to avoid meetings, especially in educational leadership roles. With their wealth of experience in the field, Susan and Tessa provide practical strategies and insights on navigating this challenging scenario with grace and effectiveness. From identifying when a meeting is truly necessary to setting clear objectives and managing time efficiently, they share valuable tips for optimizing meetings to be productive and meaningful. Tune in to discover how to navigate meetings with confidence and purpose, ultimately enhancing your effectiveness as an educational leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, join Susan and Tessa as they tackle the common dilemma of wishing to avoid meetings, especially in educational leadership roles. With their wealth of experience in the field, Susan and Tessa provide practical strategies and insights on navigating this challenging scenario with grace and effectiveness. From identifying when a meeting is truly necessary to setting clear objectives and managing time efficiently, they share valuable tips for optimizing meetings to be productive and meaningful. Tune in to discover how to navigate meetings with confidence and purpose, ultimately enhancing your effectiveness as an educational leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4787510c-730b-4510-89d4-5eac07544cea</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 12:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2d361b83-5fbb-4418-9dfb-76b6c5afcb70/Ever-wish-you-could-avoid-a-meeting-converted.mp3" length="4584031" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Conveying a decision you may disagree with as the boss</title><itunes:title>Conveying a decision you may disagree with as the boss</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode titled "Conveying a Decision You May Disagree with as the Boss," join us as we dive into the complexities of leadership and the challenges of delivering decisions that may not align with personal beliefs.</p><p>As experienced educational leaders, Susan and Tessa offer valuable insights and practical advice on navigating such situations with integrity and professionalism. Learn how to effectively communicate difficult decisions while maintaining trust and respect within your team. This episode provides actionable strategies for handling tough decisions with grace and empathy. </p><p>Tune in and gain valuable perspectives on leading with conviction in challenging circumstances!</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode titled "Conveying a Decision You May Disagree with as the Boss," join us as we dive into the complexities of leadership and the challenges of delivering decisions that may not align with personal beliefs.</p><p>As experienced educational leaders, Susan and Tessa offer valuable insights and practical advice on navigating such situations with integrity and professionalism. Learn how to effectively communicate difficult decisions while maintaining trust and respect within your team. This episode provides actionable strategies for handling tough decisions with grace and empathy. </p><p>Tune in and gain valuable perspectives on leading with conviction in challenging circumstances!</p><p>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.</p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">8a19567d-3e48-49fe-ab7a-d341b8609724</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:00:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/917da03f-ba13-4ca8-af29-ed89e9bbe294/Delivering-a-decision-you-may-not-agree-with-when-you-are-the-b.mp3" length="6722206" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>09:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Do Others Try to Bring You Their Challenges?</title><itunes:title>Do Others Try to Bring You Their Challenges?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to "Dips of Doubt" for an insightful episode titled "Do Others Try to Bring You Their Challenges?" Join hosts Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock as they candidly discuss the common scenario of teachers and staff members unloading their problems onto leaders without necessarily seeking solutions. Drawing from their extensive experience in educational leadership, Susan and Tessa offer practical strategies for navigating this dynamic effectively while maintaining a supportive environment.</p><p>Whether you're a seasoned administrator or a new leader finding your footing, tune in as Susan and Tessa shed light on this common leadership dilemma and provide actionable advice for creating a more balanced and empowering workplace culture!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to "Dips of Doubt" for an insightful episode titled "Do Others Try to Bring You Their Challenges?" Join hosts Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock as they candidly discuss the common scenario of teachers and staff members unloading their problems onto leaders without necessarily seeking solutions. Drawing from their extensive experience in educational leadership, Susan and Tessa offer practical strategies for navigating this dynamic effectively while maintaining a supportive environment.</p><p>Whether you're a seasoned administrator or a new leader finding your footing, tune in as Susan and Tessa shed light on this common leadership dilemma and provide actionable advice for creating a more balanced and empowering workplace culture!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4cab51-4f4d-422d-8dce-e57554d504b9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6300b9b4-bc59-4646-a1c2-4beee2afac27/Do-others-try-to-bring-you-their-challenges-converted.mp3" length="5412008" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Trauma-Responsive Relationships: How Dysregulated Interactions Impact Connection and Healing</title><itunes:title>Trauma-Responsive Relationships: How Dysregulated Interactions Impact Connection and Healing</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a deep and insightful conversation on trauma-responsive relationships. In this episode, they explore the profound impact of dysregulated interactions on connection and healing. Drawing from their expertise and experiences, Susan and Tessa delve into the complexities of navigating relationships in the aftermath of trauma, highlighting the importance of understanding and addressing emotional dysregulation. </p><p>From exploring triggers to fostering empathy and safety, they provide valuable insights and practical strategies for cultivating trauma-responsive connections that promote healing and growth. Whether you're supporting a loved one or seeking to deepen your understanding of trauma-informed care, this discussion offers invaluable wisdom and guidance. </p><p>Tune in to discover how trauma-responsive relationships can create a foundation of trust, resilience, and healing for all involved!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Susan and Tessa in a deep and insightful conversation on trauma-responsive relationships. In this episode, they explore the profound impact of dysregulated interactions on connection and healing. Drawing from their expertise and experiences, Susan and Tessa delve into the complexities of navigating relationships in the aftermath of trauma, highlighting the importance of understanding and addressing emotional dysregulation. </p><p>From exploring triggers to fostering empathy and safety, they provide valuable insights and practical strategies for cultivating trauma-responsive connections that promote healing and growth. Whether you're supporting a loved one or seeking to deepen your understanding of trauma-informed care, this discussion offers invaluable wisdom and guidance. </p><p>Tune in to discover how trauma-responsive relationships can create a foundation of trust, resilience, and healing for all involved!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a03d8025-105b-42d0-9f56-0ae0aac1098f</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/76584774-449f-4d8a-a8d4-407f4d38a8be/Trauma-Responsive-Relationships-How-Disregulated-Interactions-I.mp3" length="7552533" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>08:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Change Your &quot;Stinkin Thinking&quot; Because Your Words Matter</title><itunes:title>Change Your &quot;Stinkin Thinking&quot; Because Your Words Matter</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered if your words hold power beyond their surface meaning? In this thought-provoking conversation, Susan and Tessa delve into the profound impact of our words on ourselves and others, using a fascinating rice experiment as an example.</p><p>Join us as we explore how our words can create positive or negative outcomes in our lives. Discover how changing your "stinkin thinking" can lead to a more fulfilling and uplifting life experience.</p><p>In this video, we'll discuss:</p><ol><li>The rice experiment: How the words we use can affect our environment and the people around us.</li><li>The importance of choosing our words wisely and how they can impact our mental and emotional well-being.</li><li>Tips for cultivating a more positive mindset and shifting our language to reflect a more optimistic outlook.</li><li>The power of words in shaping our relationships and the world around us.</li></ol><br/><p>If you're ready to transform your life by harnessing the power of your words, don't miss this engaging and informative conversation between Susan and Tessa.</p><p>Remember to like, share, and subscribe for more insightful discussions on personal growth and development!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered if your words hold power beyond their surface meaning? In this thought-provoking conversation, Susan and Tessa delve into the profound impact of our words on ourselves and others, using a fascinating rice experiment as an example.</p><p>Join us as we explore how our words can create positive or negative outcomes in our lives. Discover how changing your "stinkin thinking" can lead to a more fulfilling and uplifting life experience.</p><p>In this video, we'll discuss:</p><ol><li>The rice experiment: How the words we use can affect our environment and the people around us.</li><li>The importance of choosing our words wisely and how they can impact our mental and emotional well-being.</li><li>Tips for cultivating a more positive mindset and shifting our language to reflect a more optimistic outlook.</li><li>The power of words in shaping our relationships and the world around us.</li></ol><br/><p>If you're ready to transform your life by harnessing the power of your words, don't miss this engaging and informative conversation between Susan and Tessa.</p><p>Remember to like, share, and subscribe for more insightful discussions on personal growth and development!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">fb60fafa-0421-4f53-aa89-83479f2ae8c6</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 12:45:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/fac9eb8d-7b86-4e05-965a-8cbe3befac29/Change-your-stinkin-thinking-because-your-words-matter-converted.mp3" length="8746225" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Art of Celebrating Your Wins</title><itunes:title>The Art of Celebrating Your Wins</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, hosts Susan and Tessa invite the listeners to explore the significance of acknowledging and celebrating personal and professional achievements. Susan and Tessa delve into the transformative power of embracing success, discussing how recognizing milestones, no matter how small, can fuel motivation, boost confidence, and foster a positive mindset. Drawing from their own experiences and insights, they share practical tips and strategies for incorporating celebration into daily life, both as individuals and within team environments. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, hosts Susan and Tessa invite the listeners to explore the significance of acknowledging and celebrating personal and professional achievements. Susan and Tessa delve into the transformative power of embracing success, discussing how recognizing milestones, no matter how small, can fuel motivation, boost confidence, and foster a positive mindset. Drawing from their own experiences and insights, they share practical tips and strategies for incorporating celebration into daily life, both as individuals and within team environments. </p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">beae5216-a20f-495f-89a0-4cdf463e8a54</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b5afa749-5ce7-4cd2-8c4a-039b481d3dac/Celebrating-your-wins-converted.mp3" length="4189791" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:59</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode></item><item><title>How do you find balance to refill your Leadership cup?</title><itunes:title>How do you find balance to refill your Leadership cup?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How do you find balance to refill your Leadership cup?" hosts Susan and Tessa delve into the essential topic of maintaining balance and replenishing one's leadership capacity. As leaders, it's easy to get caught up in the demands of the role, often neglecting personal well-being and fulfillment in the process. Susan and Tessa share personal experiences and practical strategies for finding equilibrium amidst the challenges of leadership. Tune in to discover valuable insights and inspiration for nurturing both your professional and personal growth as a leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "How do you find balance to refill your Leadership cup?" hosts Susan and Tessa delve into the essential topic of maintaining balance and replenishing one's leadership capacity. As leaders, it's easy to get caught up in the demands of the role, often neglecting personal well-being and fulfillment in the process. Susan and Tessa share personal experiences and practical strategies for finding equilibrium amidst the challenges of leadership. Tune in to discover valuable insights and inspiration for nurturing both your professional and personal growth as a leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">855ad5d5-ff1a-495d-9b96-fb14d87f6424</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:15:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4c16d40f-a51e-422b-8954-09ae3f61d4dc/How-do-you-find-balance-to-refill-your-Leadership-cup-converted.mp3" length="6251322" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>07:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode></item><item><title>What is Your Body Language Saying?</title><itunes:title>What is Your Body Language Saying?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "What is your Body Language Saying?" Susan and Tessa shift the focus to the perspective of the interviewee, exploring how non-verbal communication can inadvertently convey the wrong message during job interviews. </p><p>Susan and Tessa highlight the importance of self-awareness and intentional body language, offering practical advice for candidates to project confidence, professionalism, and enthusiasm through their non-verbal cues. By sharing insights and real-life examples, they empower listeners to recognize and correct potential pitfalls in their own non-verbal communication during interviews, ultimately enhancing their chances of making a positive impression and securing job opportunities.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "What is your Body Language Saying?" Susan and Tessa shift the focus to the perspective of the interviewee, exploring how non-verbal communication can inadvertently convey the wrong message during job interviews. </p><p>Susan and Tessa highlight the importance of self-awareness and intentional body language, offering practical advice for candidates to project confidence, professionalism, and enthusiasm through their non-verbal cues. By sharing insights and real-life examples, they empower listeners to recognize and correct potential pitfalls in their own non-verbal communication during interviews, ultimately enhancing their chances of making a positive impression and securing job opportunities.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">aef36da7-cdd7-4da5-b2d3-47cc57a18fd9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b503b742-12d5-4400-9641-004197a248d3/What-is-your-body-language-saying-converted.mp3" length="5689219" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>06:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Key to QTIP in Leadership</title><itunes:title>The Key to QTIP in Leadership</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "The Key to QTIP in Leadership," hosts Susan and Tessa explore the concept of QTIP (Quit Taking It Personally) in leadership. They define QTIP's significance in navigating leadership dynamics, emphasizing its relevance in situations where leaders might take things personally, impacting decision-making and team cohesion.</p><p>Susan and Tessa stress the importance of maintaining objectivity in leadership roles. They offer strategies for separating personal emotions from professional responsibilities and discuss the value of resilience in managing reactions to criticism or challenges.</p><p>The hosts delve into fostering a positive work culture by promoting open communication and constructive feedback. They share examples of successful QTIP implementations, showcasing its impact on team morale and productivity.</p><p>Throughout the episode, practical tips for integrating QTIP into daily leadership practices are provided. Susan and Tessa encourage listeners to reflect on their experiences with interpersonal challenges in leadership and to consider the benefits of adopting a QTIP mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "The Key to QTIP in Leadership," hosts Susan and Tessa explore the concept of QTIP (Quit Taking It Personally) in leadership. They define QTIP's significance in navigating leadership dynamics, emphasizing its relevance in situations where leaders might take things personally, impacting decision-making and team cohesion.</p><p>Susan and Tessa stress the importance of maintaining objectivity in leadership roles. They offer strategies for separating personal emotions from professional responsibilities and discuss the value of resilience in managing reactions to criticism or challenges.</p><p>The hosts delve into fostering a positive work culture by promoting open communication and constructive feedback. They share examples of successful QTIP implementations, showcasing its impact on team morale and productivity.</p><p>Throughout the episode, practical tips for integrating QTIP into daily leadership practices are provided. Susan and Tessa encourage listeners to reflect on their experiences with interpersonal challenges in leadership and to consider the benefits of adopting a QTIP mindset.</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ee9a7ce7-ed0b-42fb-9b5a-500a935febd0</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:30:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a2fdad3f-693b-4425-b187-53c738b7cd34/The-Key-to-QTIP-in-leadership-converted.mp3" length="4586956" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>05:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Getting to Know Susan and Tessa&apos;s Leadership Journey</title><itunes:title>Getting to Know Susan and Tessa&apos;s Leadership Journey</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join us as Susan and Tessa reveal the pivotal moments and experiences that fueled their passion for continuous growth as leaders. As seasoned professionals, Susan and Tessa open up about their own leadership journeys, reflecting on the challenges, triumphs, and valuable lessons that have shaped their perspectives.</p><p>Explore the untold stories that have brought Susan and Tessa to the forefront of serving others and enhancing leadership development. Get ready for an engaging conversation that celebrates the importance of never ceasing to grow as a leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p><strong>Tessa Brock</strong></p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>Susan Rosenthal</strong></p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join us as Susan and Tessa reveal the pivotal moments and experiences that fueled their passion for continuous growth as leaders. As seasoned professionals, Susan and Tessa open up about their own leadership journeys, reflecting on the challenges, triumphs, and valuable lessons that have shaped their perspectives.</p><p>Explore the untold stories that have brought Susan and Tessa to the forefront of serving others and enhancing leadership development. Get ready for an engaging conversation that celebrates the importance of never ceasing to grow as a leader!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p><strong>Tessa Brock</strong></p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>Susan Rosenthal</strong></p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-dips-of-doubt.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">21bb58e3-1a4c-4daa-88ff-08c7ec9edf6c</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bc865a0d-66ec-4e29-89d6-31b6d5f563aa/d66xPHwJfSGe1ZK6c20LTlyg.jpg"/><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:50:00 -0600</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bcafc19d-bda1-4e45-9d69-1b74ee19e6be/Episode-2-We-Haven-t-Stopped-Growing-converted.mp3" length="11943299" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>14:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode></item><item><title>The Genesis of Dips of Doubt</title><itunes:title>The Genesis of Dips of Doubt</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to "The Genesis of Dips of Doubt," where hosts Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock embark on a compelling journey, sharing the roots and inspirations behind the creation of this transformative podcast tailored for educational leaders. </p><p>In this inaugural episode, our hosts candidly discuss the driving force behind "Dips of Doubt" and its mission to empower educational leaders in their quest for excellence. Whether you're an aspiring leader or a seasoned educator, this episode offers insights and inspiration to help you navigate the complex landscape of educational leadership!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. For more information about The Leadership Institute or Mentorship Options contact&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;Rosenthal, Director of LEADNow!.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Susan.Rosenthal@pima.gov</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to "The Genesis of Dips of Doubt," where hosts Susan Rosenthal and Tessa Brock embark on a compelling journey, sharing the roots and inspirations behind the creation of this transformative podcast tailored for educational leaders. </p><p>In this inaugural episode, our hosts candidly discuss the driving force behind "Dips of Doubt" and its mission to empower educational leaders in their quest for excellence. Whether you're an aspiring leader or a seasoned educator, this episode offers insights and inspiration to help you navigate the complex landscape of educational leadership!</p><p><strong>The Hosts of The Dips of Doubt:</strong></p><p>Tessa Brock</p><p><em>Tessa is a passionate, engaging and inspiring presenter who tackles the tough topics of Organizational Culture, Trauma Responsive Approaches, Communication, Reflective Practice, and Self-Care with a balance of expertise, honesty, and humor.&nbsp;Tessa has worked with schools through Fortune 500 organizations to&nbsp;enhance interpersonal interactions.&nbsp;Through her genuine and authentic manner, Tessa skillfully uses story to drive home key concepts that make a lasting impression. Tessa has a Master’s degree, is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), is Infant/Toddler Mental Health Endorsed Level III (IMH-E III), and is a Certified Executive Coach.&nbsp;Tessa actively coaches, trains, and consults with organizations and schools to enhance relationship-based and trauma-responsive skills and strategies used with professionals, students, and parents.&nbsp;The Neurosequential Network acknowledges that Tessa has completed NMT Training Certification through the Phase I level.&nbsp;&nbsp;She is an international speaker and national consultant.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p>Susan Rosenthal</p><p><em>Prior to joining the Pima County School Superintendent's office,&nbsp;Susan spent 30 years in the Catalina Foothills School District (CFSD) where she served in a variety of roles.&nbsp;She found her passion for mentoring early in her career and had a Superintendent who supported her desire to create a Beginning Teacher Assistance Program that helped new teachers onboard, acclimate and thrive.&nbsp;Later her work morphed into an Induction Program through her work as a Career Ladder Supervisor for&nbsp;K-12 educators.&nbsp;&nbsp;Susan's unique approach to teaching, learning and leadership is a result of her K-12 perspective and experiences as a&nbsp;former elementary teacher, high school assistant principal and middle school principal.&nbsp;She was afforded many training opportunities over her career and upon retiring from her former district, she spent her first year mentoring new administrators and coaching individuals obtaining their teaching certificate through Arizona Teachers of Tomorrow.&nbsp;Susan&nbsp;now serves as the Director of LEADNow!&nbsp;In her role, she is the co-facilitator of the LEADNow! Institute for&nbsp;new and aspiring principal leaders, and she provides mentorship to former LEADNow! participants who want to continue to optimize their leadership skills. She has her M.Ed., Standard Principal, PreK-12,&nbsp;Standard Professional Elementary, K-8, Early Childhood Endorsement, and she will receive her NAESP Principal Mentor Certification in April 2024.</em></p><p>--</p><p>The LEADNow! Leadership Institute is a research and evidence-based curriculum that is delivered locally through the Pima County School Superintendent’s Office in a cohort model. 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