Ellis shares how a devastating rugby injury—requiring multiple surgeries and relearning how to walk—forced him to completely redefine his identity and future. What followed was a journey through severe mental health struggles, imposter syndrome, and ultimately, a transformation into a successful recruitment founder.

This episode dives deep into:

• Turning adversity into fuel for success
• The importance of vulnerability (especially for male founders)
• Why “small wins” matter more than big milestones
• The reality behind recruitment success vs. social media highlights
• Building a culture that balances competitiveness with openness

Ellis also opens up about the pressures of founding a business, navigating personal challenges, and why honesty in leadership creates stronger, more resilient teams.

Who this episode is for:

• Recruitment founders and leaders
• Recruiters navigating tough markets
• Anyone dealing with setbacks or career pivots
• Professionals interested in mindset, resilience, and authentic leadership

🔗 Connect with the guest

Ellis Rouch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellis-rouch-52245555/

Joint Ventures Group: https://www.jointventuresgroup.co.uk/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentLife #FounderJourney #MentalHealthAtWork #ImposterSyndrome #Leadership #Resilience #RecruitmentIndustry

With over 20 years in recruitment and a background in education, Ali brings a unique perspective on why learning and development should sit at the heart of every recruitment business. Together, Lysha and Ali dive into the consequences of short-term thinking, especially over the past 12–18 months, where many businesses paused hiring and development in favour of survival mode.

They explore:

• Why neglecting trainee hiring is creating long-term risk
• The real reason tech and AI aren’t delivering ROI without proper training
• The importance of hiring for attitude, not just experience
• What makes a successful recruiter in 2026 and beyond
• Why “relentlessness” is the ultimate differentiator
• How to retain and develop your mid-level performers before they leave

Ali also shares practical advice on building robust learning strategies, supporting both new starters and experienced recruiters, and creating a culture where continuous development drives performance.

This is a must-listen for anyone serious about building a sustainable, high-performing recruitment business.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Ali Braid: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alibraid/

The Recruitment Trainer: https://www.therecruitmenttrainer.co.uk/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#Recruitment #TalentDevelopment #LearningAndDevelopment #RecruitmentTraining #FutureOfWork #Hiring #Leadership #RecruitmentPodcast

In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes is joined by Natalie Wells, founder of Natalie Wells Recruitment, to explore a different path—one focused on profitability, balance, and long-term fulfilment.

Natalie shares her journey from corporate recruitment into building a highly successful solo business, and why she chose not to follow the traditional “scale and sell” model. From working in finance recruitment for nearly three decades to creating a lifestyle-led business, this conversation challenges the industry’s definition of success.

They discuss:

• Why solo recruitment businesses can be more profitable than scaled models
• The importance of defining your own version of success
• How to build a business that fits your life—not the other way around
• The power of true consultancy vs transactional recruiting
• Why curiosity and asking better questions sets top recruiters apart
• The risks of relying on PSLs and corporate structures
• What it really takes to go out on your own (and who shouldn’t)

Natalie also shares practical advice for anyone considering starting their own agency, including the importance of business development skills, building a personal brand, and working with SMEs on a retained basis.

This is a refreshing, honest conversation for recruiters who want more freedom, more control, and a more meaningful definition of success.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Natalie Wells: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliewellsrecruitment/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#Recruitment #Rec2Rec #SoloFounder #RecruitmentLife #WomenInRecruitment #BusinessGrowth #Entrepreneurship

James shares his journey from breaking into recruitment in 2007 to building and scaling multiple ventures, including his latest focus—remote hiring through global talent pools. Together, they explore how the recruitment landscape is evolving, why traditional office models are being challenged, and how leveraging remote teams (particularly from South Africa) can transform cost structures and performance.

The conversation dives into the importance of proper onboarding, training, and leadership when managing remote teams, as well as the realities of AI in recruitment—what’s working, what’s not, and why human connection still wins. James also unpacks the mindset required to succeed in recruitment, from resilience and work ethic to thinking beyond the status quo.

Expect honest insights on market cycles, diversification, and how recruiters can future-proof their businesses in an increasingly competitive and global market.

Who this episode is for:

• Recruitment founders looking to scale smarter
• Agency leaders exploring remote hiring models
• Recruiters wanting to improve performance and mindset
• Anyone curious about the future of global talent and AI in recruitment

🔗 Connect with the guest

James Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmartin101/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

——————

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #Rec2Rec #RemoteHiring #GlobalTalent #RecruitmentLeadership #AIinRecruitment #ScalingAgencies #RecruitmentLife

Mark shares his journey from accidental recruiter to building and exiting multiple businesses across Asia, including executive search firms and a fintech platform supporting contractor funding. He dives into the evolution of recruitment tech—from spreadsheets and landlines to LinkedIn and now AI—and what it really means for recruiters today.

The conversation tackles the realities of AI in hiring: from AI-generated CVs to automation challenges, bias concerns, and why human EQ still matters more than ever. Mark also shares predictions for the next 2–3 years, including the rise of side hustles, entrepreneurial recruiters, and new wealth creation models.

Plus, practical advice for founders looking to scale and exit—why contractor books matter, how to build defensible niches, and what opportunities exist in fast-growing Asian markets.

Expect honest insights, global perspective, and reassurance that recruitment isn’t going anywhere—it’s just evolving.

Who this episode is for:

1. Recruitment founders scaling or planning an exit
2. Recruiters navigating AI and tech disruption
3. Anyone interested in global hiring trends (especially Asia)
4. Aspiring entrepreneurs in recruitment or HR tech

🔗 Connect with the guest

Mark Francis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-francis-80337a8/

Preferrd: https://www.preferrd.io/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

——————

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecTech #AIinRecruitment #RecruitmentLeaders #ScalingBusiness #Entrepreneurship #HRTech #GlobalRecruitment #AsiaMarkets

Leo shares the journey behind Chapter 2 — launched just weeks before COVID — and how his experience scaling global teams (including growing Oliver from four people to 3,000 employees across 40 countries) shaped his approach to modern talent acquisition.

The conversation dives into the evolution of recruitment models, from traditional agency approaches to embedded talent solutions, AI-powered recruitment tools, and employer brand strategies that help companies attract top talent at scale.

Leo also reveals the leadership principles that drive his business: radical transparency with teams, the importance of innovation, and why founders must stay “positively paranoid” about change to avoid being left behind.

Lysha and Leo discuss how to define and retain “A-players”, including the key traits Leo looks for when hiring: resilience, curiosity, customer obsession, and strong communication. They also tackle burnout in recruitment and how great leaders support high performers when they’re struggling.

Finally, Leo opens up about balancing founder life with family, sharing the mindset practices, personal values, and marathon running that help him stay grounded while scaling a global business.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Leo Harrison: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leoharrison1/

Chapter 2: https://www.chapter2.group/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

——————

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentLeaders #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentIndustry #Leadership #ScalingTeams #FounderStories

Natasha shares how a chance interaction with a recruiter led her into the industry, how her background in sales shaped her recruitment approach, and why retained search became central to her business model. She also reflects on launching Kelham Partners in 2025 and the realities of stepping away from a salaried role to build something from scratch.

Natasha also talks about launching her own podcast, Speciality Sessions, sharing why she recorded an entire first season early on and how podcasting has helped her connect with leaders across the chemicals industry while strengthening her brand in a new business.

If you’re considering launching your own recruitment business, transitioning to a retained model, or building influence in a niche sector, this episode is packed with honest insights and practical lessons.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Natasha Klymczuk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natashaklymczuk-chemicalrecruitment/

Kelham Partners: https://kelhampartners.com/

Listen to Speciality Sessions on YouTube, Spotify & Apple Podcasts:

https://www.youtube.com/@SpecialitySessionsPodcast

https://open.spotify.com/show/1CS8Qos21QX83508RL5WX3

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/speciality-sessions/id1850962012

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

——————

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentFounder #RetainedSearch #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentLeadership #NicheRecruitment

Lucy shares her journey from FMCG recruitment into building a truly global, specialist search firm focused exclusively on senior appointments within the fresh produce industry. With clients in 22 countries and a team spanning the UK, South America and Asia, she offers a refreshingly honest look at what it really takes to lead a hybrid and international recruitment business.

From launching in December 2019 on the brink of COVID, to navigating shifting global supply chains, Lucy talks candidly about resilience, mindset and the realities of scaling as a founder with a young family.

Key themes include:

1. Building and protecting culture across remote and hybrid teams
2. Leading across time zones and navigating cultural differences
3. Why continuous personal development is non-negotiable for founders
4. Moving from contingent to retained search
5. Practical automation wins (AI note-takers, CRM integrations, outreach tools)
6. Where AI helps recruitment – and where it absolutely shouldn’t replace the human touch

Lucy also discusses her podcast, Behind the Fruit, spotlighting leaders and innovators in the global fresh produce space.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Lucy Robinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucyrobinsoninternational/

LCR International: https://www.lcrint.com/

Listen to Behind the Fruit on Apple Podcasts and Spotify:

https://www.buzzsprout.com/2571507

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on another platform:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentLeadership #GlobalRecruitment #FreshProduce #RetainedSearch #WomenInRecruitment #RecruitmentFounder #AIinRecruitment

From the decline in trainee hiring to the over-reliance on experienced billers, Mel and Naomi unpack the commercial pressures recruitment leaders are facing – and why short-term thinking could be costing businesses their future growth.

Drawing on backgrounds spanning neuroscience, operations, sales and leadership, they explore:

1. Why Gen Z’s relationship with communication is reshaping recruiter skillsets
2. The growing confidence gap in early-career consultants
3. Coachability, curiosity and resilience as the new “DNA” markers of top recruiters
4. The real impact of hybrid working on culture, training and retention
5. Why top billers don’t automatically make great leaders
6. How leadership blind spots, lack of L&D budgets and poor management are driving attrition

The conversation also dives into fractional L&D models, safe spaces for leadership development, and why even Mel and Naomi invest in their own coach to sharpen their edge.

This is a candid, forward-thinking discussion about building sustainable recruitment businesses — not just profitable ones.

🔗 Connect with the guests

Mel Knight: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mel-knight-chartered-mcipd-46686422/

Naomi Hewitt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-hewitt-0899b1161/

Action Potential Performance: https://actionpotentialgroup.org/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on YouTube, Captivate, Spotify and Apple Podcasts:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentLeadership #TalentDevelopment #RecruitmentTraining #FutureOfRecruitment #AgencyGrowth #LearningAndDevelopment

Sam shares how SPG has built a technical recruitment model that prioritises credibility over clichés. Every consultant receives a £2–2.5k annual training budget to gain real industry certifications — and internal engineers technically interview candidates before they’re submitted to clients. The result? Higher success rates, reduced time-to-hire, and stronger client trust.

But the real disruption? Moving away from commission-first thinking.

Sam explains why SPG is transitioning toward running each recruiter’s desk as a profit centre — giving full visibility of desk costs, break-even points, and profitability. Instead of focusing purely on top-line fees, consultants are rewarded on sustainable profit and long-term value.

The episode also explores:

1. Post-2023 market realities
2. Commercial accountability in recruitment
3. Building a tech-enabled services group
4. Developing stronger, more credible recruiters

Who This Episode Is For

1. Recruitment founders rethinking commission models
2. Agency leaders navigating tighter markets
3. Tech recruiters wanting deeper industry credibility
4. Consultants who want to think like business owners

A candid, commercially focused conversation about elevating recruitment standards.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Sam Hameed: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-hameed-spg/

SPG Resourcing: https://www.spgresourcing.com/

SPG Intelligence: https://www.spgintelligence.com/

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on YouTube, Captivate, Spotify and Apple Podcasts:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentLeadership #TechRecruitment #AgencyGrowth #ProfitOverCommission #RecruitmentPodcast

This isn’t another hype-filled AI episode. Instead, Vanessa shares how recruiters can use AI intentionally to remove admin, save hours each week, and refocus on what truly drives success in recruitment – human connection, relationships, and personal brand.

They explore why recruiters must “up their human” to stay ahead of AI, how to avoid shiny-tool syndrome, and what recruitment leaders should be thinking about right now as the industry settles into the next phase of AI adoption. Vanessa also shares insights from working with recruitment businesses globally, meeting 100+ AI vendors, and helping teams choose tech that actually improves time-to-hire rather than adding complexity.

The conversation also covers launching and scaling a recruitment business, building a brand that creates inbound opportunities, the future of LinkedIn and sourcing tools, and why passionate curiosity is the most important skill recruiters can take into 2026 and beyond.

Who this episode is for:

Recruitment founders, agency leaders, solo recruiters, talent acquisition professionals, and anyone feeling overwhelmed – or left behind – by AI in recruitment.

🔗 Connect with the guest

Vanessa Raath: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessaraath/

Vanessa's Tried & Tested AI Tools: https://start.me/p/l6bkk7/vanessa-raath-s-tried-tested-ai-tools

🔗 Connect with the host

Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/

Follow the podcast on YouTube, Captivate, Spotify and Apple Podcasts:

https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod

https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger, and partnered with Needi, Keybridge IT Solutions, Bristow & Hardy and Diversity in Recruitment.

Our sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/

Our partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders save companies time and money with their complimentary corporate gifting service.

https://needi.co.uk/

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently.

https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

https://diversityinrecruitment.com/

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

https://www.keybridgeit.com/

#RecruitmentPodcast #AIinRecruitment #RecruitmentLeadership #FutureOfRecruitment #TalentAcquisition #RecruiterLife #HumanFirst #RecruitmentFounder

Patrick’s journey started with a business degree and graduate scheme before he fell into recruitment - initially working in Accounting & Finance, then pivoting into the actuarial market back in 2010. He shares what it was really like navigating the credit crunch, a period that rocked the recruitment industry and reshaped how he thought about resilience, risk, and specialism.

Founded in 2019, Clarence George was always built with a clear end goal: to create a super-niche, high-end recruitment business focused on fully qualified professionals who remain in demand regardless of market cycles.

Six years on, Patrick reflects on:

1. Scaling a small-to-medium specialist agency from startup to £1m annual turnover
2. Expanding into overseas markets while remaining London-based
3. Operating a hybrid working model with flexibility at its core
4. Why top-end contingency recruitment still works when done properly

The conversation also dives into:

1. Why choosing the right niche is critical for long-term success
2. How to research and pivot strategically without losing momentum
3. Ways to future-proof your recruitment career or business
4. Why face-to-face relationship building is still the OG move in a digital-first world

Connect with Patrick here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbflanagan/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast..

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Allicia shares her journey of launching an agency in a challenging market, offering pragmatic, no-nonsense advice for anyone who’s thinking about starting a business, or trying to gain traction when conditions aren’t easy.

We dive into:

1. How Allicia has intentionally protected her mindset as a founder
2. The role of leadership, resilience, and self-awareness in building something sustainable
3. Why friendship and strong relationships sit at the heart of her success

This episode is packed with honest insights for founders, recruiters, and leaders navigating uncertainty—especially those building businesses from the ground up.

🔗 Connect with Allicia:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/allicia-birch/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast..

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Based in Manchester (with seriously impressive offices), Lou leads a team of 20 of whom have been with the business between four and thirteen years. Her approach to people, culture, and leadership clearly works.

In this episode, Lou shares:

• Her strategy for creating a strong, values-led culture

• How she looks after her people and why low attrition isn’t accidental

• What it really takes to retain a team long-term in a high-pressure industry

• Why focus matters when building a specialist recruitment business

This is an inspiring, practical conversation with a business owner who has built something sustainable by putting people, clarity, and culture at the heart of everything she does. A must-listen for recruitment founders and leaders who want to grow without burning out their teams, or themselves.

Connect with Louise here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/louise-davey-0573647/

In this episode, Marie breaks down what the past year has really looked like behind the numbers, what TC East does differently for recruitment businesses, and why “real-life finance” matters more than ever in a challenging market.

We cover:

• The current state of the recruitment market- what the numbers are telling us versus the headlines

• Predictions for 2026 and what financially resilient recruitment businesses will be doing differently

• Benchmarking days and practical financial insight - why context matters more than spreadsheets

• What recruiters and business leaders can do right now to strengthen performance, margins, and decision-making

If you’re a recruitment founder or leader who wants clarity, control, and confidence in your finances - and insight you can actually act on—this episode is essential listening.

Connect with Marie here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariepegram/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast..

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Kicking off the new year with personal solo episode from the host herself. Lysha shares her journey to becoming ultra-processed food (UPF) and refined sugar free. This isn’t about perfection, fads, or quick fixes - it’s an honest reflection on what prompted the change, how the transition really felt, and what it’s taught her along the way.

In this episode, Lysha opens up about her personal journey, the mindset shifts required to change long-standing habits, and the realities of adopting a lifestyle that goes against much of modern food culture. She talks through what she eats, how she navigates everyday choices, and the lessons learned from removing UPFs and refined sugar from her diet.

Whether you’re curious about making small changes, considering a full reset, or simply want to hear a real, unfiltered experience, this episode offers practical insight, encouragement, and perspective for starting the year with intention.

Are you on the same journey?

Lysha and Adam explore how emotional agility, active listening and evaluating problem solving skills are key in both recruitment and personal development. They also touch on the concept of “lifequakes,” sharing personal stories of resilience and transformation.

Rounding out the episode, Adam offers insights into his podcasting success, stressing preparation, consistency, and authentic connection. This conversation is a rich blend of industry expertise, human insight and forward looking advice for recruitment professionals.

Connect with Adam here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjposner/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor: 

Paiger -  Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners: 

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Greg Savage is making his THIRD entrance back on the show- his first was back in 2020 which put our podcast on the global map; and he is BACK, bringing his knowledge of the recruitment industry to every single recruiter listening.

Board adviser, Speaker around the world, even an Author - with an audience of 350k followers on LinkedIn; Greg delves into the topic of creating and keeping target audiences on LinkedIn as a recruiter - whether that being as a leader or all the way to being a starter/newbie recruiter. Advising to steer away from the "likes" obsession and "viral" achieving posts if that doesn't get you the engagement from your wanted audience. It is all about ROI! 

Lysha asks Greg in this episode: what does a top biller look like to YOU in 2025? The question is - What do you think Greg's views are?...

The understanding of AI in Recruitment can be misunderstood; "it will replace recruiters", "AI can do it all". Greg proves in this episode the good can't be replaced, if you adapt, make the changes & don't hide behind the digital. AI can do it "all" but finding what humans can do better is the key.

Greg is visiting the UK soon and hosting a few REC master classes in Edinburgh, Manchester and London. Mastering How we balance AI & Recruitment with human influencing skills.

 If you are interested to attend the event, link to Book is here - https://bit.ly/42gI6Qw  and remember to mention the Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast if you do:)

To conclude, this episode is full of everything you need to know and has much to learn from. Delving into hiring strategies, how to build plans for success and in Greg's book with what works and the mistakes of starting a new business. There is absolutely no-one like Greg in the industry, and he is a total legend, Enjoy...

Connect with Greg here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregpsavage/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor: 

Paiger -  Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners: 

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

and one of the most respected voices in recruitment and leadership. Paul’s journey into recruitment wasn’t planned; after starting out in retail back in 2002, he found his way into an industry he’s since helped shape from the inside out.

In this conversation, Paul brings clarity, perspective, and straight-talk to a sector navigating constant change. Drawing on decades of experience advising businesses at board level, he shares what leaders should really be focusing on right now to protect their future.

We cover:

• Who we should be spotting for the future talent pool- and what potential really looks like today

• The current recruitment landscape and which companies are setting themselves up to win long-term

• Paul’s honest take on RecTech - what adds value and what’s just noise

• How to build and maintain a positive mindset in high-pressure environments

• Why training still isn’t being prioritised - and the cost of getting it wrong

This episode is a must-listen for recruitment leaders, founders, and managers who want to think beyond short-term wins and build resilient, people-first businesses that last

Connect with Paul here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-sharpe-business-advisor/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

This week's episode is with the incredible Wendy McDougall, founder, trailblazer, and the powerhouse behind Firefish, one of the most respected CRMs in the recruitment industry. Wendy has built, scaled, and successfully exited a business in a space where few female founders have paved the way, and in this episode, she opens up about the realities behind that journey.

We dive into Wendy’s story, how she built Firefish by putting data at the heart of the recruitment process, and why a CRM isn’t just software, but the engine that drives a modern recruitment business.

Key topics we explore:

• Buying behaviours in RecTech

• The true value of data - and why most agencies still aren’t leveraging even half of what they have

• What the cost of candidate acquisition really is - and what recruiters overlook when calculating ROI

• Predictions for a successful 2026

Connect with Wendy here https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendymcdougall/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

This week, the brilliant Jem Bevan joins the podcast for the second time! Jem is the founder of SocialJems and the go-to expert for all things LinkedIn - joins us to break down what’s really happening on the platform right now. She's lifting the lid on the strategies that still work, the ones that don’t, and how to stay ahead of LinkedIn’s constant changes.

This week's episode covers:

• The truth about LinkedIn’s current algorithm - what’s changed, what’s tanking reach, and how to rise above the noise

• Personal branding

• Upcoming LinkedIn verification changes—what’s coming, what it means, and how creators and businesses should prepare

If you want to show up smarter, get seen by the right people, and finally understand how to play the LinkedIn game properly, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

connect with Jem here https://www.linkedin.com/in/jem-bevansocialjems/

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Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

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Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

From the early days - when industry legend Greg Savage helped put the show on the map in Season 1 - to the lessons earned through experience, this episode is an honest, practical guide for anyone curious about starting a podcast or looking to take theirs to the next level.

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Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

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Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Their conversation touches into the ethical challenges within recruitment, including issues like kickbacks, referral incentives, and influencer driven practices. Nitin expresses his frustration with these trends and reaffirms his commitment to transparency and integrity. Both agree that the current business climate demands resilience, adaptability, and self awareness. Nitin openly discusses his own experiences with anxiety and depression, explaining how focusing on the present has helped him stay grounded through adversity. Moving beyond commercial targets, the pair redefine success as something measured not by money, but by values, behaviours, and impact.

Concluding this episode, Nitin and Lysha discuss the future of recruitment, highlighting a shift towards consultative, solution driven practices that prioritise authenticity and collaboration over transactional gain. Their conversation ultimately reinforces that true success lies not in financial performance, but in honesty, resilience, and the ability to uplift others.

Connect with Nitin here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nitin-rectools/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

Hannah clarifies that while the bill outlines a framework for substantial changes — including proposed reforms to unfair dismissal rights and paternity leave — much of the detail will be developed through secondary legislation and public consultations taking place in autumn 2024. She emphasises the importance for employers and HR professionals to stay informed as these consultations progress, as the final legislation could significantly reshape employment practices in the UK.

The conversation then shifts to the umbrella company sector and the government’s ongoing concerns around tax evasion and compliance. Hannah and Lysha discuss how the recording and release timeline of the episode aligns with a crucial period of consultation, during which the government is proposing new measures to tackle malpractice in the industry.

To mitigate risk, Hannah advises agencies and business to:

• Strengthen their due diligence procedures.
• Consider implementing real-time reporting software.
• Partner exclusively with umbrella companies that are members of recognised trade bodies.

She also highlights that umbrella companies may soon fall under the regulation of the employment agency standards inspectorate and could be required to obtain licensing, introducing a new level of oversight within the sector.

Connect with Hannah here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-morrison-27b28530/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

They discuss how workspaces have evolved, with many people now working remotely, in hybrid setups or returning to offices. Lysha also talks about her own business journey, which includes running a café, coworking space, event venue, and social media content business. She started at 16 by renovating and selling furniture, then expanded into content creation during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Today, Moira manages content for several clients and uses an AI scheduling tool called Motion to stay organised.

She emphasises the importance of supporting local food businesses and valuing simple, locally sourced meals. In recruitment, Lysha focuses on flexibility, creativity and autonomy, moving away from rigid traditional models. She also encourages diverse hiring, especially for people with interests in sports and other hobbies that foster teamwork and growth.

Lysha highlights the importance of supporting introverts and young professionals in the workplace, especially post pandemic. Moira advocates for patience, flexibility and creating safe environments for employees to grow. Finally, she stresses that sticking with a role longer can often lead to greater rewards, countering the trend of frequent job hopping.

Moira isn't on LinkedIn but feel free to follow The Drop Off cafe on all platforms.

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https:// paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https:// needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https:// bristowandhardy.co.uk

The episode involves conversations on the evolution of recruitment in the age of automation, where Tas presents a powerful Venn diagram connecting story telling, emotion, and memory as core to human connection and brand resonance. While AI continues to shape the future of work, Lysha and Tas champion the irreplaceable human qualities - empathy, humour and emotional depth,

Tas also breaks down the fundamentals of behavioural economics, revealing how unconscious biases and emotional triggers influence decision making in business and beyond.

The episode wraps with a discussion on emotional branding and the power of human stories. From marketing to recruitment, Lysha and Tas emphasise that people may forget what you said, but they'll never forget how you made them feel. With anecdotes, philosophy, and practical insights, this episode is a guide to building lasting human connections in an increasingly digital world.

Connect with Tas here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tastasgal/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

Rachel now manages the recruitment agency; whilst focusing on roles in sales, customer service and commercial real estate. Kyle made a bold career pivot in late 2023 to pursue his passion for content creation as a LinkedIn ghostwriter and coach.

Lysha and Kyle dig deep into the challenges and rewards of working with family, maintaining healthy boundaries and transitioning into a completely new industry.

Kyle explains his ghostwriting onboarding and coaching frameworks, emphasising the importance of consistency, long term strategy and understanding the nuances of LinkedIn as a platform.

The conversation touches on vulnerability in content, with both Kyle and Lysha sharing personal experiences about showing up authentically online.

Wrapping up, they discuss how to balance authenticity with strategy in LinkedIn content, the evolving role of AI in content creation and the importance of maintaining a genuine voice. Whether you're in recruitment, content creation, or navigating a career shift, this episode is packed with insight and inspiration. So...

Connect with Kyle here - linkedin.com/in/kylecampion

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

Lysha also delves into her personal career milestones, offering insights into the future of recruitment. She discusses the growing influence of AI and technology, while emphasising the irreplaceable value of authentic human connection. With a strong message about staying true to core values, she calls on recruiters to embrace change, remain agile, and champion integrity in an ever-evolving industry.

QUI - Quality, urgency, integrity

Follow Qui here -http://www.quirecruitment.co.uk

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

Sam reflects on her early career, including her transition from an HR path to excelling in recruitment sales and how her experience managing over 200 stakeholders led to the creation of her first business plan. After pitching the plan to investors and receiving four offers, she launched her company with confidence, crediting a well thought out business strategy as a key to success.

Throughout the conversation, Sam opens up about the challenges of being a young female founder, particularly dealing with ageism and sexism in the business world. She emphasises the value of resilience and shares how those early struggles helped shape her character and leadership style. She also talks about the lessons learned from her first business and how those insights inform her decisions in her current venture.

The discussion also explores the evolving nature of recruitment, with Sam offering thoughtful insights into hiring strategies, the importance of cultural fit and the value of building long term relationships. She discusses her plans to onboard apprentices and train the next generation of recruiters using creative, non traditional approaches like video content and social media engagement.

Samantha and Lysha also dive into the topic of hybrid work, exploring the balance between flexibility and productivity and how trust and outcome focused performance are essential. They touch on the risks of burnout for young professionals and the importance of personal development in sustaining long term success.

As the episode wraps up, Sam shares her views on the responsibility of today’s leaders to create job opportunities for younger generations in a world shaped by AI and automation. Her passion for recruitment, people and creating meaningful career paths is evident throughout the conversation. This episode is packed with insights for aspiring entrepreneurs, recruitment professionals and anyone navigating the challenges of leadership, growth, and change.

Connect with Samantha here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthahunter1/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT, Bristol & Hardy and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

Tom dives into the daily realities of running a solo recruitment business, highlighting the importance of consistency and structured time management, especially for those with ADHD. He also introduces Recxchange, his innovative new platform designed for recruiters to collaborate, share roles and candidates and harness AI for smarter matchmaking. With a 50/50 fee sharing model and a growing user base, Recxchange is already making waves.

Together, Lysha and Tom explore the shift from competition to collaboration in recruitment, emphasising community, organisation and embracing tech driven solutions. A must listen for recruiters aiming to future proof their business and stay ahead of industry trends.

Connect with Tom here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-g-andrews/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

In this episode, Abby outlined Aspire’s collaborative approach with internal talent teams, offering services like temp to perm recruitment and onboarding. She also discussed their commitment to diversity and ethical hiring, including an upcoming presentation for the Good Employment Charter.

Highlighting ethical recruitment practices, such as prioritising honesty over placement volume. Abby and Lysha emphasised the importance of building trust through transparent decisions, like withdrawing unsuitable candidates.

They also explored hybrid working trends, using data from polls and reports to discuss its economic and operational implications. Finally, they stressed the value of personal, human centric recruitment strategies, sharing how f2f engagement and authentic storytelling on social media drive better outcomes and deeper client relationships.

Connect with Abi here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abi-macleod/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk

All reflect on the community’s impactful first year, where each and every member explains their own experience of the growth and evolving of WIRL.

The episode dives into the inspiration behind creating the network, the benefits of membership and key themes such as scaling recruitment businesses, cultivating future leadership and supporting both staff and solopreneurs.

Lysha highlights the crucial role of investing in support teams and invites listeners to engage further by reaching out about the Recruiters Recruitment Pod.

Let's go, Season 6 starts now!

Connect with all here:

Alison - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-humphries-hon-frec-75b1763/

Lysha - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/

Melanie - https://www.linkedin.com/in/melsedgley/

Zoe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-jephtha/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk 

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

The growth of the podcast has been unreal and we are so grateful to...

Of course our listeners,

Our producer (Lilia Holmes & ex-producer Shannon Rowlands who trained Lilia up for this role),

Our sponsor Paiger,

Our partners: Diversity in Recruitment, Keybridge IT, Needs and...

Our NEWEST partner, Bristow & Hardy!

Watch this space #season6

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. Find out more here – https://bristowandhardy.co.uk 

They both unpack the difference between personal branding and a full scale marketing strategy, with Kristie noting that while a personal brand can open door, especially in sales, it’s just one ingredient in the bigger picture. Lysha jumps in with a baking analogy, likening personal branding to the eggs in a cake, while the full marketing strategy is the recipe that brings everything together.

The conversation also covers scaling beyond the founder's brand, the role of strategic personal branding for leadership, and how executive profiling helps align public messaging with business goals. No more chasing viral posts - it's about creating purposeful content that aligns with company values.

When it comes to recruitment strategy, they focus on the "three C's": candidate acquisition, client acquisition and internal headcount. They emphasise the value of setting KPIs, tracking conversions and reactivating dormant contacts instead of constantly hunting for new leads.

To wrap it up, Lysha and Kristie explore the human side of marketing, discussing how relationships and referrals are still key. While automation and AI are powerful tools, they agree that the heart of great marketing is still creative thinking, strategic messaging and real human connection.

Connect with Kristie here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristieperrotte/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Despite opportunities to pivot to tech, Sonny remained passionate about hospitality, leading the charge in quick service restaurant recruitment.

He dives into the launch of Core Elevate, empowering his team through tech leadership roles and the evolving recruitment landscape. Sonny also opens up about humanising the candidate experience with his unique “cuddle afternoons” and the need for more empathy in the industry.

Sonny and Lysha explore the future of hospitality recruitment, the power of niche branding and the importance of staying connected to people - both clients and candidates.

Connect with Sonny here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonny-dickinson-b9b571109/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

The episode explores to the evolution of MBN, the launch of A Class Act, and the value of authentic, personal conversations in the business world.

Shannon and Lysha emphasise the importance of using data not just to meet KPIs but to tell meaningful stories that inspire and engage teams. They discuss the shift toward data driven recruitment, highlighting how metrics like placement efficiency and average invoice value can drive better performance and employee engagement. Shannon also reflects on building a sustainable business, the significance of individual leadership narratives, and MBN’s strategy for organic market growth, underpinned by data insights and a strong, ambitious team culture.

Connect with Shannon here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonmckechnie/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Lysha and Adam explore how emotional agility, active listening and evaluating problem solving skills are key in both recruitment and personal development. They also touch on the concept of “lifequakes,” sharing personal stories of resilience and transformation.

Rounding out the episode, Adam offers insights into his podcasting success, stressing preparation, consistency, and authentic connection. This conversation is a rich blend of industry expertise, human insight and forward looking advice for recruitment professionals.

Connect with Adam here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjposner/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Hannah also highlighted the importance of having strong legal documentation - including terms of business, shareholder agreements and employment contracts, even when a business is just starting out.

Together, Lysha and Hannah discussed the value of establishing sound business processes to mitigate risk, recommending the use of trade bodies and resources like ChatGPT for drafting templates. They also underlined the need for restrictive covenants in employment contracts, noting that they must be reasonable and tailored to the role, especially after promotions. The conversation concluded with a discussion on balancing competition and business protection, advocating for fair employment practices and the potential of employee ownership models.

Who would be interested in a follow up episode? Covering more of these topics...

Connect with Hannah here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-morrison-27b28530/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more didence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.