<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-relateful-podcast/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[The Relateful Podcast]]></title><podcast:guid>8d697a3f-3638-5100-9ec0-703deaeb189f</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 03:19:12 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 The Relateful Company]]></copyright><managingEditor>The Relateful Co, Liz and Philip Watson</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to The Relateful Podcast! A show where we explore the relational meditation practice know as Relatefulness and similar subjects through conversations with facilitators and practitioners.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg</url><title>The Relateful Podcast</title><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>The Relateful Co, Liz and Philip Watson</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>The Relateful Co, Liz and Philip Watson</itunes:author><description>Welcome to The Relateful Podcast! A show where we explore the relational meditation practice know as Relatefulness and similar subjects through conversations with facilitators and practitioners.</description><link>https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm</link><atom:link href="https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" rel="hub"/><itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Conversations on relational presence!]]></itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:category text="Health &amp; Fitness"><itunes:category text="Mental Health"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality"><itunes:category text="Spirituality"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Relationships"/></itunes:category><podcast:locked>no</podcast:locked><podcast:medium>podcast</podcast:medium><item><title>Episode 5: &quot;Relatefulness and Rationality&quot; with Pete Michaud</title><itunes:title>Episode 5: &quot;Relatefulness and Rationality&quot; with Pete Michaud</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In a world increasingly driven by technology and superficial interactions, the quest for authentic human connection has never been more vital. In this conversation with Liz and Philip Watson, <a href="https://me.sh/profile/pete-michaud-088bdddb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pete Michaud</a> (<a href="https://www.rationality.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CFAR</a>, <a href="https://uptrusting.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UpTrust</a>) shares his transformative journey into relational meditation practices.</p><p>Pete's background in software engineering intersects with his journey into Relatefulness. He observed a disconnect among his peers in the tech world, where intellectual discourse often overshadowed emotional connection. Recognizing the importance of addressing this gap, he sought to share the essence of being human beyond mere intelligence. "I knew it had to be different than just doing really good math," he asserts. This perspective drives his commitment to fostering genuine connections in a technology-driven society.</p><p>For more, check out <a href="www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world increasingly driven by technology and superficial interactions, the quest for authentic human connection has never been more vital. In this conversation with Liz and Philip Watson, <a href="https://me.sh/profile/pete-michaud-088bdddb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pete Michaud</a> (<a href="https://www.rationality.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CFAR</a>, <a href="https://uptrusting.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UpTrust</a>) shares his transformative journey into relational meditation practices.</p><p>Pete's background in software engineering intersects with his journey into Relatefulness. He observed a disconnect among his peers in the tech world, where intellectual discourse often overshadowed emotional connection. Recognizing the importance of addressing this gap, he sought to share the essence of being human beyond mere intelligence. "I knew it had to be different than just doing really good math," he asserts. This perspective drives his commitment to fostering genuine connections in a technology-driven society.</p><p>For more, check out <a href="www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">ff2ba1df-daf9-48cd-b16a-f5cccf9606f7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:10:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/ff2ba1df-daf9-48cd-b16a-f5cccf9606f7.mp3" length="62640296" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Episode 4: &quot;What&apos;s in the Way of Us Being Closer?&quot; with Valerie Daniel</title><itunes:title>Episode 4: &quot;What&apos;s in the Way of Us Being Closer?&quot; with Valerie Daniel</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode <a href="https://www.relateful.com/valerie-daniel-bio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valerie Daniel</a>, master coach, senior facilitator and managing director at The Relateful Company shares her journey from life as a corporate executive to discovering meditation, coaching and spiritual practices and eventually the practice of relational meditation. </p><p>She also shares a powerful and intimate practice that she calls "What's in the way of us being closer?" and models it beautifully in the moment in connection with Philip.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode <a href="https://www.relateful.com/valerie-daniel-bio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Valerie Daniel</a>, master coach, senior facilitator and managing director at The Relateful Company shares her journey from life as a corporate executive to discovering meditation, coaching and spiritual practices and eventually the practice of relational meditation. </p><p>She also shares a powerful and intimate practice that she calls "What's in the way of us being closer?" and models it beautifully in the moment in connection with Philip.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">dc5f3390-fefd-49a3-847e-7a4e9ff59b2a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/dc5f3390-fefd-49a3-847e-7a4e9ff59b2a.mp3" length="46613233" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Episode 3: &quot;Recognizing Fullness&quot; with Annabeth Novitzki</title><itunes:title>Episode 3: &quot;Recognizing Fullness&quot; with Annabeth Novitzki</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt conversation with Liz and Philip, singer, coach and Relatefulness facilitator <a href="https://www.annabethmusic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Annabeth Novitzki</a> speaks about the transformative journey of healing her relationship with food. She vulnerably explores the miracle of recognizing fullness and the relationship to the emotional hunger that has shaped her life. This episode dives into her insights, offering valuable lessons for anyone struggling with their relationship with food and more broadly with any kind of addictive or compulsive behavior.</p><p>The discussion also touches on the significance of group support in healing. Annabeth likens the experience of sharing her journey with others to belay climbing, where support from others allows for deeper exploration of oneself. This relational aspect of healing has enabled her to confront fears and emotions more bravely, fostering a sense of safety and connection that enhances her self-discovery.</p><p>Ultimately, she reminds us of one of the basic tenets of Relatefulness: the power of being with what's here, even when "what's here" is an experience of "not being OK," and doing so in connection with others.</p><p>For more on the practice of Relatefulness, and to connect with Liz, Philip and Annabeth check out <a href="www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt conversation with Liz and Philip, singer, coach and Relatefulness facilitator <a href="https://www.annabethmusic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Annabeth Novitzki</a> speaks about the transformative journey of healing her relationship with food. She vulnerably explores the miracle of recognizing fullness and the relationship to the emotional hunger that has shaped her life. This episode dives into her insights, offering valuable lessons for anyone struggling with their relationship with food and more broadly with any kind of addictive or compulsive behavior.</p><p>The discussion also touches on the significance of group support in healing. Annabeth likens the experience of sharing her journey with others to belay climbing, where support from others allows for deeper exploration of oneself. This relational aspect of healing has enabled her to confront fears and emotions more bravely, fostering a sense of safety and connection that enhances her self-discovery.</p><p>Ultimately, she reminds us of one of the basic tenets of Relatefulness: the power of being with what's here, even when "what's here" is an experience of "not being OK," and doing so in connection with others.</p><p>For more on the practice of Relatefulness, and to connect with Liz, Philip and Annabeth check out <a href="www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1775cd97-a29d-4ccf-b17a-29a1d7b71b7e</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 21:45:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1775cd97-a29d-4ccf-b17a-29a1d7b71b7e.mp3" length="46903506" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Episode 2: &quot;Sex, Relatefulness and Shadow&quot; with Jordan Myska Allen</title><itunes:title>Episode 2: &quot;Sex, Relatefulness and Shadow&quot; with Jordan Myska Allen</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In the quest for personal and spiritual growth, we often encounter the concept of shadow work. In this enlightening conversation with Jordan Myska Allen, founder of <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Relateful Company</a> and <a href="https://uptrusting.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UpTrust</a>, Philip and Liz delve into the intricate relationship between awareness and our hidden shadows. Join us as we explore how embracing our shadows can lead to a more fulfilling and authentic life.</p><p>Key takeaways:</p><p>- Awareness and shadow work are distinct yet interconnected.</p><p>- Shadows encompass both the darker aspects of our personality and the light we fail to acknowledge.</p><p>- Our relationships can reveal our shadows, offering valuable insights for personal growth.</p><p>- Embracing our shadows allows for a more authentic and fulfilling life.</p><p>For more on Relatefulness and shadow work, check out <a href="https://www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the quest for personal and spiritual growth, we often encounter the concept of shadow work. In this enlightening conversation with Jordan Myska Allen, founder of <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Relateful Company</a> and <a href="https://uptrusting.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UpTrust</a>, Philip and Liz delve into the intricate relationship between awareness and our hidden shadows. Join us as we explore how embracing our shadows can lead to a more fulfilling and authentic life.</p><p>Key takeaways:</p><p>- Awareness and shadow work are distinct yet interconnected.</p><p>- Shadows encompass both the darker aspects of our personality and the light we fail to acknowledge.</p><p>- Our relationships can reveal our shadows, offering valuable insights for personal growth.</p><p>- Embracing our shadows allows for a more authentic and fulfilling life.</p><p>For more on Relatefulness and shadow work, check out <a href="https://www.relateful.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1c6dc187-519f-404c-989f-930b368ade59</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 10:20:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1c6dc187-519f-404c-989f-930b368ade59.mp3" length="71123405" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode></item><item><title>Episode 1: &quot;Eating Karma&quot; with Jason Minnix</title><itunes:title>Episode 1: &quot;Eating Karma&quot; with Jason Minnix</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In today's fast-paced world, understanding the dynamics of our relationships can feel overwhelming. In a recent conversation with counselor and <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Relatefulness</a> facilitator Jason Minix, Liz and Philip explored the concept of "eating karma" as it relates to our interactions and emotional experiences. Through practical insights and personal anecdotes, they delve into how recognizing our inherited patterns can transform our connections with others. This episode also offers a nice introduction to the practice of Relatefulness. </p><p>Key Takeaways</p><p>The insights shared by Jason Minix illuminate the importance of understanding karma as a tool for enhancing our relationships. By recognizing the emotional weight we carry and engaging in practices like Relatefulness, we can cultivate deeper connections and navigate challenges with greater ease. The journey of "eating karma" encourages us to embrace our emotions, fostering acceptance and compassion in ourselves and others.</p><p>For more, check out <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today's fast-paced world, understanding the dynamics of our relationships can feel overwhelming. In a recent conversation with counselor and <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Relatefulness</a> facilitator Jason Minix, Liz and Philip explored the concept of "eating karma" as it relates to our interactions and emotional experiences. Through practical insights and personal anecdotes, they delve into how recognizing our inherited patterns can transform our connections with others. This episode also offers a nice introduction to the practice of Relatefulness. </p><p>Key Takeaways</p><p>The insights shared by Jason Minix illuminate the importance of understanding karma as a tool for enhancing our relationships. By recognizing the emotional weight we carry and engaging in practices like Relatefulness, we can cultivate deeper connections and navigate challenges with greater ease. The journey of "eating karma" encourages us to embrace our emotions, fostering acceptance and compassion in ourselves and others.</p><p>For more, check out <a href="https://www.relateful.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relateful.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://the-relateful-podcast.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">e736ab01-98fc-4a7d-8372-21475ddda89b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7b20bbaa-ceda-42e9-bca5-fc381492967d/The-Relateful-Podcast-1.jpg"/><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 20:10:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/e736ab01-98fc-4a7d-8372-21475ddda89b.mp3" length="46620756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode></item></channel></rss>