<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/thebonfiresofsocial/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy  of Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Entrepreneurship in Detroit]]></title><podcast:guid>97751a9f-2e7c-54c3-a362-83dea6bf1f6b</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 13:40:17 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2023 Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></copyright><managingEditor>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Storytelling by Romy Kochan about the Social Enterprise activity in Detroit and broader Michigan. Romy Kochan, Managing Partner, of Gingras Global Inc. and Gingras Global Groups, L3C has been in the financial industry since 1988 and has a passion for efficient, profitable, social enterprises and the impact investors who support them. Listen in on the interesting interviews with some of the burgeoning social entrepreneurs. During many of the interviews Romy takes the time to highlight a concept or note from the field specific to social enterprise. Learn about all of the different elements of a social enterprise and connect to the front lines in this great show.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/7fa85dd4-6a47-49cc-888e-6872dbfcc661/Gnxfm6NrjIuHzP8y2M4HRWgS.jpg</url><title>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy  of Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Entrepreneurship in Detroit</title><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/episodes/]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7fa85dd4-6a47-49cc-888e-6872dbfcc661/Gnxfm6NrjIuHzP8y2M4HRWgS.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author><description>Storytelling by Romy Kochan about the Social Enterprise activity in Detroit and broader Michigan. 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Sheri discusses her innovative and collaborative idea to use unused spaces for lifting others.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/L2L_Pic_15.jpeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/L2L_Pic_15.jpeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;</a></p><p><br></p><h4>For the full transcript click below</h4><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>		</p><p>R<a href="#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ead Full Transcript</a></p><p><br></p><p>		</p><p><br></p><p>			Welcome to episode 99 of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise! Wow-wee, almost at 100. Thanks for your loyal support over all of these past episodes! Oh, by the way, this is Romy, and we had some fun jumping over to the west coast to talk with Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift. Sheri discusses her innovative and collaborative idea to use unused spaces in lifting ways.  Be sure to stay until the end for a great song from a Detroit artist!</p><p><br></p><p>Now, first, we have to hear what Natalie has come up with for the fun fuel on this episode.</p><p><br></p><p>I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.</p><p><br></p><p>Coworking is everywhere.  What is coworking you ask? It is a work trend bringing together professionals from across all industries to form inter-connected communities.  According to the website, Mindspace, the concept of a coworking space started in 1995 Berlin with 17 computer enthusiasts got together in a facility to create a space where people with an interest in computers could gather to collaborate and work in an open environment.</p><p><br></p><p>Fast track to 1999 New York City and 42 West 24 opened to offer a work environment with flexible membership options for teams and individuals seeking a workspace.  The difference here was that there seldom were any organized community events.</p><p><br></p><p>In 2005, Brad Neuberg from San Francisco launched the first official co-working space originally referred to as a “9 to 5 group.”  It was a was not a huge hit at first as no one showed up for the first month, but soon interest sparked and coworking took off.</p><p><br></p><p>Coworking leads to great collaboration.  When I hear the word collaboration, my mind goes to the lyrics of Vanilla Ice’s 1990 release of Ice Ice Baby.  I hear collaboration and I then start singing: stop, collaborate and listen and then goes on to say, “if there was a problem, yo, I’ll solve it.”    Makes me smile every time.</p><p><br></p><p>Let’s jump on over to see who Romy is collaborating with on in this episode and what problem they are solving.</p><p><br></p><p>Okay, I absolutely love Natalie’s fun fuels! That was so interesting about co-working spaces! And, now I have the Vanilla Ice song in my head! Ha Ha. I have to look that up next!  What a perfect lead into a collaboration that Sheri Lozano has tackled with Link2Lift.  Let’s drop in on my conversation with Sheri…</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Sheri, why don't you give us the background about what Link2Lift is?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Link2Lift is a company that we developed in response to underutilized space. It seems like we've had a ton of buildings that are left unused, and we've developed a process where we can create co-working communities but with a purpose.</p><p><br></p><p>Voice:	Let's talk about how you got inspired first just to get everyone caught up to what originally lit your fire if you will.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	You know, it's interesting because I never intended to develop a business. It was more a response to an experience that I had as a volunteer going back and forth to international ... as a volunteer doing international work with communities and then coming]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift</h2><p>We had some fun jumping over to the west coast to talk with Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift. Sheri discusses her innovative and collaborative idea to use unused spaces for lifting others.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/L2L_Pic_15.jpeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;</a></p><p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/L2L_Pic_15.jpeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;</a></p><p><br></p><h4>For the full transcript click below</h4><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>		</p><p>R<a href="#" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ead Full Transcript</a></p><p><br></p><p>		</p><p><br></p><p>			Welcome to episode 99 of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise! Wow-wee, almost at 100. Thanks for your loyal support over all of these past episodes! Oh, by the way, this is Romy, and we had some fun jumping over to the west coast to talk with Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift. Sheri discusses her innovative and collaborative idea to use unused spaces in lifting ways.  Be sure to stay until the end for a great song from a Detroit artist!</p><p><br></p><p>Now, first, we have to hear what Natalie has come up with for the fun fuel on this episode.</p><p><br></p><p>I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.</p><p><br></p><p>Coworking is everywhere.  What is coworking you ask? It is a work trend bringing together professionals from across all industries to form inter-connected communities.  According to the website, Mindspace, the concept of a coworking space started in 1995 Berlin with 17 computer enthusiasts got together in a facility to create a space where people with an interest in computers could gather to collaborate and work in an open environment.</p><p><br></p><p>Fast track to 1999 New York City and 42 West 24 opened to offer a work environment with flexible membership options for teams and individuals seeking a workspace.  The difference here was that there seldom were any organized community events.</p><p><br></p><p>In 2005, Brad Neuberg from San Francisco launched the first official co-working space originally referred to as a “9 to 5 group.”  It was a was not a huge hit at first as no one showed up for the first month, but soon interest sparked and coworking took off.</p><p><br></p><p>Coworking leads to great collaboration.  When I hear the word collaboration, my mind goes to the lyrics of Vanilla Ice’s 1990 release of Ice Ice Baby.  I hear collaboration and I then start singing: stop, collaborate and listen and then goes on to say, “if there was a problem, yo, I’ll solve it.”    Makes me smile every time.</p><p><br></p><p>Let’s jump on over to see who Romy is collaborating with on in this episode and what problem they are solving.</p><p><br></p><p>Okay, I absolutely love Natalie’s fun fuels! That was so interesting about co-working spaces! And, now I have the Vanilla Ice song in my head! Ha Ha. I have to look that up next!  What a perfect lead into a collaboration that Sheri Lozano has tackled with Link2Lift.  Let’s drop in on my conversation with Sheri…</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Sheri, why don't you give us the background about what Link2Lift is?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Link2Lift is a company that we developed in response to underutilized space. It seems like we've had a ton of buildings that are left unused, and we've developed a process where we can create co-working communities but with a purpose.</p><p><br></p><p>Voice:	Let's talk about how you got inspired first just to get everyone caught up to what originally lit your fire if you will.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	You know, it's interesting because I never intended to develop a business. It was more a response to an experience that I had as a volunteer going back and forth to international ... as a volunteer doing international work with communities and then coming back to America, which is so rich, and realizing that we have needs here. And how come with all of the wealth that we have in our own county, we still have people in need?</p><p><br></p><p>	And so, I just started to be a little curious, and we talk about collaboration, that we have resources, and are we really collaborating? Are we really using our resources well to help our communities that are in the minor, and it was amazing to me that I could go into a Third World country under-resourced with 25 people from the U.S. I've never met before and go into a community where I didn't speak the language, and we could somehow see 700 patients a day. Or we could see high volume, and we could work together.</p><p><br></p><p>	So, in America, as I started to research this, it was more just out of curiosity. What I found was amazing. There's a lot of people that want to do a lot of great things, but I wasn't happy with the way I saw collaboration working, and I just thought, "We could do better."</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	And, Sheri, what did you find some of the main key barriers or maybe just all out fail points that were reoccurring from what you were observing? Why it wasn't working?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Yeah, what was interesting, the pain points usually were really out of people wanting to do good. It wasn't a matter of people not wanting to spend their money or give or people not having heart to do well. It was truly just a lot of repeated work, a lot of overlap, a lot of people not realizing that there is something much like their great idea just down the street or next door.</p><p><br></p><p>	I did this kind of boots on the ground. I decided I ... of course, attended conferences and listened to think partners, but I also decided to do just boots on the ground. And by doing boots on the ground, I could walk with each different sector with channels of influence and see what they were experiencing, and then, I would take copious notes.</p><p><br></p><p>	So, I could walk with the family who was being cared for. I could walk with the city official. I could walk with the faith community and an investor and take notes, and what I noticed was that there was a lot of duplicate effort, and I felt like that was the one takeaway. I have to be a part of solving this problem, the duplicate effort.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	You hit on a lot of points. It was the faith community, perhaps the government or civic, and then, the beneficiary. It might be a family or a person, and then, what else did you say in there because the faith community, government, and maybe the family or social mission beneficiary and ...</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	And the non-profit [crosstalk].</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	And the non-profit, okay. Okay, yeah. So, you've got this discovery because I think that a lot of us acknowledge that that is happening. How did the different groups respond when you started to highlight some of this overlap? Were they defensive, or were they openly looking for a solution?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	That's a good question. I think it comes with a mixed response because a lot of people, I'm sure, felt the same thing. This was not a new revelation to them, but they're weary, right?</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Mm-hmm (affirmative).</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	It's like, how do you make time to collaborate well? So the good thing was coming in as a neutral convener, coming in with the heart that I just want to help make this better, and I wasn't trying to change the identity of each of the organizations and what they have to bring or even how they want to do it.</p><p><br></p><p>	I was just trying to find where are the common points so that we can really reduce overhead. We can reduce duplicate efforts and increase our impact, and people responded really well to that.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Yeah, I bet. Weary, I feel is an operative word there. You can see a solution, but when you're just so tired, and you're just trying to get to that very next step, changing it even for the better sometimes can feel overwhelming, you know?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Mm-hmm (affirmative). Mm-hmm (affirmative).</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Yeah. We do have a lot of ...</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	And the good thing is, at that-</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Oh, I'm sorry. I talked over you by accident. Go ahead.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	That's okay. The good thing is at that point; you have to keep in mind that I was still on my curious journey. So, at that point, I wasn't coming in as a business, I wasn't, or even a non-profit or a program. I was coming in asking questions.</p><p><br></p><p>	So, it seemed like for the first time, maybe why I gained some favor in the research was because I really was curious. I did not come with answers. I came to create a conversation, and I think that was really refreshing for the people who at least I spoke with.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Yeah. And then now, it's fully turned in to a physical space as of last week, right, June of 2018, right?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Link2Lift?</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Yes.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Okay, well, so what I do is my client has physical space, so in this curious journey, what I realized was space played a role in collaboration. All these people who had weary work and were working in isolation, many times when you get them in the same room, they're more than happy to work together.</p><p><br></p><p>	So, when I identified space played a role in collaboration, and yet almost every time I had a meeting, I was meeting in these big buildings that were empty, and it just ... I found irony in it. So, yeah, we turned the idea, all the research from 2013 to two thousand ... really '15, '16. I turned it into, "Okay, how can we repurpose tools that are right at our fingertips?"</p><p><br></p><p>	A lot of these people have access to buildings, and co-working is not a new idea, but what if we applied co-working a little more intentionally and either the client as a business person who would like to build an accelerator or use technology to your advantage. But what if we dedicate a tenth of that to this non-profit collaboration?</p><p><br></p><p>	And so, in doing so, I've been able to run this model of how we can do that in almost any space, and it seems to be catching on. You're right. Last week, we opened the first center that completely went through all four stages of our company, and it's the Palau LinkCenter in Portland, Oregon.</p><p><br></p><p>	And what's fantastic about it is it's a co-working space but with a purpose, and so, these tenant partners, they have their own identity. They have their own organization, and yet, they have intentional time where they will connect with one another, do strategic planning.</p><p><br></p><p>	The co-working space, the Palau LinkCenter will become a strategic asset. It's almost like I have to be there at least once or twice a week, or I'm going to miss something. I would say that would be the element that's a little bit different than the trend-on co-working style, which is great. But Link2Lift, we're committed toward a little bit more intentional sense of community and purpose in how the workflow is in the space.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	And for just as a side note, let's give them their website in case they want to look at some of the pictures while you're talking here.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	It'll be PalauLinkCenter.org.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	And let's spell that for them.</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	P-A-L-A-U-L-I-N-K [inaudible]C-E-N-T-E-R.org.</p><p><br></p><p>Romy:	Okay, perfect. Perfect, perfect. And there's a lot of pictures on the Link2Lift.com website, and that's www L-I-N-K2? The number 2? L-I-F, as in Frank, T as in Tom dot com. All right, so just a little sidestep there. If they want to just tune into your pictures while you're telling this great story. So let's talk about your program, The Common Good. Its Common Good Collaboration Model? Is that the full name of your program?</p><p><br></p><p>Sheri:	Yeah. For short, we call it The Common Good Collaborator, but it's a process, and so yeah, they model. It's a process of four stages. I like to go in with my client and ask a lot of questions. Usually, people have come to me because they've heard that I can help reimagine their space. It's interesting the amount of people who have this dilemma now. You look at retailers; you look at the commercial property, church buildings, faith communities, it's kind of a dilemma. What do we do? Now that technology has allowed us to do so much remotely, it's changed the consumer, how they think. So, when people approach me, they usually have an idea that they would like to impact their community. Whether it's through jobs or some other way. And so that first process is really important where I just ask a lot of really good questions. Because I believe that property owners have to really resonate with the community that they attract, you know the co-working space they attract. So, whatever it is they care about, we're gonna build something under that umbrella. I think it's the highest chance of sustainability when the owner's really behind it.</p><p><br></p><p>	We explore all the options of what that can look like, and to be honest with you, this is like the funnest part because I approach the common good collaborator like a city. Imagine a thriving city and what it takes to have a thriving city, and a post office, and a gas station, and a market, and work, and so I put that into a building, and so we have a lot of fun learning what would create a thriving community in your building, and what kind of community do you want that to look like. What kind of culture, who do you wanna impact as a result? And that's really the fun part, and then we get to create it. Have a network of people that we can bring into the conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>	I love using local talent. I think everyone who lives in town could be a part of building this space, architect's design if there is a budget for that. If not, there are a lot of people that are very creative, and they can repurpose space. But, if the property owner or my client really feels like they want me to bring in the talent like you have that and we can definitely consult on that. And then we go through just this release phase where we say to the client, "Hopefully we have helped create a co-working or shared space environment that a portion, at least a portion of it, is dedicated through common good to create greater impact. And here is the strategic plan for the next 12 months."</p><p><br></p><p>	And then we check in with them, and we help develop that shape, that culture of the community because it is gonna require a new muscle memory than the way people have worked before. Because remember, the way we worked before was very much in silos and very much caused weariness and duplication of effort. But, in that same weariness in the new environment, there's this temptation to go</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-sheri-lozano-link2lift-99]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2633</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/70b34deb-bf21-469f-861a-1c45f9a295ef/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:01:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/0826ce0b-a6bf-46f5-b04b-04711d53147c/99sherilozano-converted.mp3" length="58167993" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift We had some fun jumping over to the west coast to talk with Sheri Lozano of Link2Lift. Sheri discusses her innovative and collaborative idea to use unused spaces for lifting others.       For the full transcript click below   Websites for Link2Lift Link2Lift website Facebook Palaulinkcenter.org Websites for Sheri Lozano…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Kate Hayes EchoingGreen- Board Health #98</title><itunes:title>S3: Kate Hayes EchoingGreen- Board Health #98</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Kate Hayes EchoingGreen- Board Health</h2>
<p>Back for another conversation this time with a very inspiring woman, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green. Kate discusses her incredibly interesting journey and love for health human interactions and support. She is a  current leader in the impact investing and social enterprise development space.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome, welcome, welcome, to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Romy here back for another conversation with a very inspiring woman, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green. Kate discusses her incredibly interesting journey and love for health human interactions and support.<br />
First, let’s see what Natalie has prepared for our Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel<br />
Leadership takes all kinds of forms and has many different styles.  After all, we are all uniquely made and don’t respond the same way to things.<br />
Let’s take a listen to some top leader’s motivational quotes of all time according to Inc. Magazine because according to them, “Sometimes the most powerful and meaningful things come from words that touch our heart and lead us forward to our potential.”<br />
So  Author Ernest Hemingway kicks us off with his quote:  "When people talk, listen completely." --Ernest Hemingway<br />
I need to work on that one myself!<br />
Retired four-star general in the United States Army, Colin Powell said,  "Great leaders are almost always great simplifiers, who can cut through argument, debate, and doubt to offer a solution everybody can understand." --Colin Powell<br />
But I will wrap up with a motivational leadership quote from Harold R. McAlindon.  He said,<br />
 "Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." --Harold R. McAlindon<br />
Let’s tune in with Romy as she interviews this episode’s latest trailblazer.<br />
Thanks, Natalie!  So many great leaders have gone before us in history. Let’s turn our attention to a current leader in the impact investing and social enterprise development space, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green and her program, Direct Impact.<br />
Romy: 	Let's talk about Echoing Green. Let's talk about Echoing Green. It had a unique start.<br />
Kate Hayes:	Yes. So, Echoing Green was founded 30 years ago by a group of individuals working in the private sector who wanted to see what would happen if you took the principles of the private sector and applied them to the social sector, and so they started investing deeply in early stage social entrepreneurs, and that has really...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Kate Hayes EchoingGreen- Board Health</h2>
<p>Back for another conversation this time with a very inspiring woman, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green. Kate discusses her incredibly interesting journey and love for health human interactions and support. She is a  current leader in the impact investing and social enterprise development space.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome, welcome, welcome, to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Romy here back for another conversation with a very inspiring woman, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green. Kate discusses her incredibly interesting journey and love for health human interactions and support.<br />
First, let’s see what Natalie has prepared for our Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel<br />
Leadership takes all kinds of forms and has many different styles.  After all, we are all uniquely made and don’t respond the same way to things.<br />
Let’s take a listen to some top leader’s motivational quotes of all time according to Inc. Magazine because according to them, “Sometimes the most powerful and meaningful things come from words that touch our heart and lead us forward to our potential.”<br />
So  Author Ernest Hemingway kicks us off with his quote:  "When people talk, listen completely." --Ernest Hemingway<br />
I need to work on that one myself!<br />
Retired four-star general in the United States Army, Colin Powell said,  "Great leaders are almost always great simplifiers, who can cut through argument, debate, and doubt to offer a solution everybody can understand." --Colin Powell<br />
But I will wrap up with a motivational leadership quote from Harold R. McAlindon.  He said,<br />
 "Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." --Harold R. McAlindon<br />
Let’s tune in with Romy as she interviews this episode’s latest trailblazer.<br />
Thanks, Natalie!  So many great leaders have gone before us in history. Let’s turn our attention to a current leader in the impact investing and social enterprise development space, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green and her program, Direct Impact.<br />
Romy: 	Let's talk about Echoing Green. Let's talk about Echoing Green. It had a unique start.<br />
Kate Hayes:	Yes. So, Echoing Green was founded 30 years ago by a group of individuals working in the private sector who wanted to see what would happen if you took the principles of the private sector and applied them to the social sector, and so they started investing deeply in early stage social entrepreneurs, and that has really been at the heart of everything that Echoing Green has been about for the past few decades. So, the core of our work is our fellowship program, where we search the globe to find amazing early-stage social entrepreneurs who have incredible ideas that have the potential to really change the world and solve big social, environmental problems, and we provide them with funding, with support from our staff, from our ecosystem and our community, as well as the community amongst one another where they are each other's best resources as they work to take their organizations to the next step and begin to really grow and scale the solutions that they've identified, and over the past 10 or 15 years, one of the things that we've become more intentional about is building out our ecosystem of support.<br />
	So, we know that social entrepreneurs are incredibly important. They're close to the work. They're really dedicating their lives to solving really big problems that exist, but they can't do it alone. So, we wanted, as an organization, to become more intentional about how we create an ecosystem of support for them to really help with making that change come to life. So, with that, we started doing work in the impact investing space, as we saw more for-profit social enterprises join our fellowship program, and we wanted to connect those early-stage organizations with impact investors that were interested in supporting for profits at a very early stage, and from there, we've then developed the direct impact program, which is what I lead, and I can certainly talk quite a bit about, which is intentionally developing the next generation of board leaders to support our social entrepreneurs. So, we're very carefully thinking about every role that needs to exist in working together to solve some of these big problems.<br />
Romy:	And Kate, just undoing all of that, I feel like we could probably do about 10 episodes on what you just said, all those interesting things, but for Echoing Green, how does Echoing Green define early-stage entrepreneurship?<br />
Kate Hayes:	Yes. We are one of the earlier stage. So, we define that as the idea stage to about two years of operations. So, we will, if somebody has an incredible idea and a very compelling way of stating it, and stating how they're going to solve it, we will fund at that idea stage. We also will fund proof of concept or at a couple years of operations, which makes us really unique in the space, and I think part of what differentiates us is we're really focused on the leader first. We know that by investing in somebody who is proximate to the work, they've lived the challenges that they're trying to solve, they know the communities incredibly well, and they're so deeply embedded in the solutions that they're trying to create, that they're going to, no matter what, be successful.<br />
	So, while we, of course, look at the organization, we primarily will focus on the individual and what they bring to the table, and then we'll look at okay, is this an innovative solution to a longstanding problem, is it a pressing problem, what does the business model seem like? It does not need to be perfect because that's an area that we can really support in, but we are very much leader first, and every year, we get somewhere around 2500-3000 applications from social entrepreneurs all over the world. It's one of the most fun parts of my job is getting to read a lot of those applications alongside my colleagues, and we're ultimately selecting around 30 each year. So, we also work to support those social entrepreneurs that apply throughout every step of the process. Whether or not they ultimately get a fellowship, we want them to receive some sort of value from going through that, especially since they're coming in as early as an idea. So, we have a lot of opportunity to help them think through and articulate what they're trying to do.<br />
Romy:	That's so thrilling. So many folks in the, I'd say impact investing space broadly, will often make comments like there just isn't deal flow, but it takes a firm like yours to go in and develop the deals so that they can invest in them. That's so exciting. We want to involve you more in Detroit. I just want to raise my hand right now.<br />
Kate Hayes:	Absolutely.<br />
Romy:	We want to involve you more here. So, back to your firm. Many, many have not figured out this early stage piece, and I love what you said about leadership because we feel the same way. One of the taglines we have is "Supporting people first from inspiring places with productive ideas," but it's the people that make all this happen. We want to support the persons that are leading the efforts and getting them all what they need. How did you guys come to land on what seems obvious, but there's a lot of distractions around the idea sometimes, and people forget about the leadership?<br />
Kate Hayes:	You're absolutely right. I think it has just been so deeply ingrained from the start that it's hard to pinpoint exactly when the organization decided that that was the goal. I'll provide an example of one of our very first social entrepreneurs that is no longer with our organization, but I think provides our continued reasoning of why we focus on the person first. So, Cheryl Dorsey was the founder of The Family Van, a mobile healthcare clinic in Boston, which actually will tie back a little bit to my story.<br />
	I spent a few years volunteering on this mobile healthcare clinic, and that was what first got me interested in Echoing Green because I learned that that organization and Cheryl had been funded and supported by Echoing Green, and she stayed with the organization for some time, and ultimately, about 8 years later after that initial funding from Echoing Green, Cheryl actually took the reins as president of Echoing Green, and so we're continuously reminded of no matter what our fellows do when they start at the organization, and we do find that many of the organizations last with their original founder, who's our fellow, or with somebody else that takes the reins, but they continue to go on to do incredible things. I think a great example is Van Jones, who was a fellow in the 90s, and many people will now see him on CNN.<br />
	So, we have all of these stories of our fellows going on to continue to do incredible things. It's about 85 percent of them remain in leadership positions within the social sector, and so that reminds us that no matter what that idea is, what the person goes on to do is going to have impact that we could never even see at the point of application, and at the point of that first idea, but many, like Wendy Kopt, who was a fellow in the early 90s, continues to stay with Teach for America, and now Teach for All. So, it's pretty incredible seeing the varying paths, but that's really what brings us back to this investment in the individuals first.<br />
Romy:	Wow. That's incredibly exciting, and so before we stay on this track of you guys pouring into leadership, I want to talk about healthy boards and governance in a minute. Let's dip sideways for a minute and tell people a little bit more about your journey, Kate because you referenced it briefly, but what's been your journey about getting into the field? Was that your first experience with the mobile healthcare clinic, or had you been out in this type of work before you joined?<br />
Kate Hayes:	Yeah, so it was one of my early experiences. Like many in the non-profit and social sector, my path has been winding but has landed me to exactly where I feel like I'm supposed to be. So, when I was volunteering on The Family Van, that was in college, and I was studying neuroscience because I'd always been deeply interested in human behavior and why people do the things that they do, and also a huge science geek, so I thought I'd bring those two things together, study neuroscience, and go on to medical school. That experience with The Family Van really opened my eyes. Social entrepreneurship was just a very early field. It was happening. Social entrepreneurship has been happening for decades, and even centuries, but the naming was just starting to come about, and it was not something that I was familiar with at the time, but when I learned about Echoing Green and learned about the work that similar organizations were doing in the space, it got me really thinking about the type of systemic impact that I wanted to make.<br />
	So, I ended up graduating, took my MCAT, decided to put med school applications on hold while I tried working in the non-profit sector, and so started out at an organization focused in the education space, and fell in love with the space and could really see how I could make what I hoped and continue to hope will be transformative impact over time, or at least supporting pushing the needle on a lot of these things that I really care about, and so ended up not applying in the end and stayed in the space, and over the years was working at quite a few youth-serving organizations but was trying to narrow down to exactly what I cared most about, and it kept coming back to leadership development and this time with neuroscience, with human behavior and understanding how people grow and change, and don't change, but how you can influence that as well as this social entrepreneur field and the power of innovators that can disrupt, really positively disrupt on some of these big issues, as well as cross-sector collaboration. When I was at my previous organization, that was something that I was working within a lot, was catalyzing the power of corporate professionals to engage in the social change ecosystem, and there came a point where I said okay, I guess the best way for me to make an impact is to become a social entrepreneur.<br />
	I think that many in the social sector go through this moment, and so I wrote a business plan, submitted it to Echoing Green because that's what you do when you have an idea, and made it pretty far in the process but didn't ultimately get the fellowship, but certainly reconnected me with the work of Echoing Green, and soon after, found a role working here that was really tying in those three things that I cared most about, and so I had the opportunity to join the team just about four years ago, and really rethink the way we were doing leadership development, especially for people in the ecosystem, not just our social entrepreneurs, but the other key players, primarily those in the private sector that have a critical role to play, and so have been here ever since.<br />
Romy:	Wow, and you had an opportunity to see some of the social entrepreneurs around the world. I mean, we exchanged some pictures, and you've been everywhere from Rwanda to all of these places that I've seen some pictures. Can you give us a little tour of the sampling of places you've gotten to learn about entrepreneurship?<br />
Kate Hayes:	Sure. So, I'll tell you first the why around those particular travels. As part of Direct Impact, the program that I run, we take cohorts of individuals from the private sector who are interested in deepening their engagement in the social sector have a lot of interest and intent and want to do it in the right way, and in a really intensive experiential leadership development driven way. So, we put them through a few retreats and then also site visit, which is where the pictures come in.<br />
	We'll take a small group of individuals from across the private sector and across ... Mostly New York is where we primarily been focused, but we're starting to expand across the US and, ultimately, globally in working with corporate leaders, and we'll bring them to spend a few days shadowing our social entrepreneurs, and really experiencing social entrepreneurship firsthand. Ultimately, at the end of the days, we're preparing these individuals to join the boards of our fellow organizations, the non-profit boards.<br />
	One of the things that we know to be true is that board members often have not worked in the non-profit sector. They don't have the deep, nuanced understanding of what it's like day in and day out, the good, the bad, and the ugly. So, the exposure piece of this program is where these site visits come in. The social entrepreneurs we visit, they're not putting on a show. They're just doing their day-to-day work and engaging our group in what they're doing so that they can learn. We've gone a couple of times to African Entrepreneur<br />
Katie Hayes: 	Collective in Kigali Rwanda and that example shows one of the most exciting through lines that we've seen with the program, and that African Entrepreneur collective now has three Direct Impact graduates on their board, including their board chair. So, the transformation in this full circle ecosystem that we've been able to see from our fellows to our Direct Impact [inaudible] has been really incredible.<br />
	We've also brought people to accountability lab in Nepal to Contextos in El Salvador to the Center for Civic Innovation in Atlanta because we also focus on US organizations. There's certainly a ton of value in seeing the different sides of the cities right here in our own backyard. At the end of the day, the site visits really offer this transformative moment where people are deeply out of their comfort zone. They're experiencing social impact and the work that non-profits do in a firsthand; this is the good. This is the challenging wave that really becomes a reflection point in their lives. Not only are they able to learn and becomes immersed in the work, but they're also able to really step back and think about the impact that they want to have as they join the boards of these organizations, and more broadly think about as corporate sector leaders how they can influence the social sector for the good.<br />
Romy:	You know, we have a saying around here that we say, "Let's take it from the paper to the eyeballs, like, "Let's take it from [inaudible] due diligence to go and to meet them in person," because there's just a different interpretation that can't be expressed on paper as much as you can have talent in your writing and all of that. That's just different, and when you saying you're immersing them in these experiences when they get a chance to look into the eyeballs of those, you can see the heart of what they're trying to do, and they're able to engage more human contact. So, they're able to get it easier and understand it. We always say social entrepreneurship is best understood leaving the paper for a minute, and looking at the eyeballs and going back to the paper, just because-<br />
Kate Hayes:	Absolutely.<br />
Romy:	Just because you need to get out and get on the front like so you that you can really understand all the nuances and all the intricacies that won't prevent an entrepreneur from going forward, but they require understanding if you're going to partner or fund those on the frontline. Well, that's really exciting. Just for our listeners, many for-profit organizations also have boards. We don't want it to confuse any of that. Mostly what Kate works with is the non-profit boards, the more formalized boards. Would that be correct, Kate? I don't want to misspeak.<br />
Kate Hayes:	Yes, that is. Our primary focus through Direct Impact is on non-profit boards, but what I've found to be true, especially with the...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-kate-hayes-echoinggreen-board-health-98]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2621</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9054cc0c-01cd-4258-b8c3-6d5f08177faa/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:27:36 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/23bb752d-0462-4a33-a089-b4d94d369da4/98katehayes.mp3" length="76479008" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Kate Hayes EchoingGreen- Board Health Back for another conversation this time with a very inspiring woman, Kate Hayes of Echoing Green. Kate discusses her incredibly interesting journey and love for health human interactions and support. She is a  current leader in the impact investing and social enterprise development space.     For the full transcript…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Genusee #97</title><itunes:title>S3: Genusee #97</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Genusee</h2>
<p>Wow, what a really great episode on a social enterprise called Genusee. Creatively designing eyewear out of recycled single-use plastic water bottles out of Flint, Michigan. Many of you may have heard some tough stories coming out of Flint. Specific to the water crisis over these past few years. You will meet the founders and designers, Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns. They will discuss their journey in Flint and the whole launch process to date.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome to episode 97 of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I am your host for this episode on a really great social enterprise called Genusee. They are out of Flint, Michigan. Many of you may have heard some tough stories coming out of Flint, Michigan specific to the water crisis over these past few years. You will meet the founders and designers, Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns. They discuss their journey in Flint and the whole launch process to date.<br />
Oh, it feels good to be back after a mini-hiatus. Thanks for hanging in there while we made some new shows!<br />
By the way, we have some great episodes coming up next from the east and west coasts culminating with a finale for Season 3 and our episode 100 which will be some interviews from the recent GUS awards held in Detroit.<br />
So subscribe and stay tuned.<br />
Now, let’s see what Natalie has in store for us on the Fun Fuel. What do you have for us, Natalie?<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.<br />
In today’s world, you see so many people wearing eyeglasses and on a super bright sunny day they most certainly break out their sunglasses.  Glasses have become ultra-fashionable and why shouldn’t they?  They most certainly are the very first thing people see when they look at your face unless they aren’t wearing theirs and they just can’t see you.<br />
According to the website lenspick.com, the first vision correction device was invented in 1000 AD and called a reading stone. As you can imagine, it was for farsighted folk who couldn’t read properly and was basically a glass sphere used as a magnifying glass.<br />
Now fast forward to 12th century China and you have the creation of Sunglasses. People back then used flat crystals of smoky quartz that were mounted for personal use to reduce the glare from the sun.<br />
It is also said that these ‘sunglasses’ were used by judges while presiding cases, so as not to give away their emotions.  Very interesting.<br />
So, throughout history, mankind has made some very unique and purposeful inventions, including eyeglasses, that truly make our lives easier.<br />
Thanks for listening and now on to the episode.<br />
Fascinating that the first pair of eyeglasses was documented to be in 1000 AD. Thank you, Natalie, your fun fuels are always so interesting!<br />
Let’s jump on in for a listen now to my conversation with Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns and their really great company, Genusee.<br />
Romy:	So let's tell the listeners about Genusee.<br />
Ali Rose:	So Genusee is making eyewear in Flint, Michigan from recycled single-use plastic water bottles that were a result of the Flint water crisis.<br />
Romy:	So is it just the eyeglass frames, or are you putting the lenses in and all that?<br />
Ali Rose:	Yeah, we're doing everything. The frames are specifically what's made from the recycled water bottles, but we are working with an optical lab, so we do prescription eyeglasses as well as sunglasses.<br />
Romy:	So how did you make]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Genusee</h2>
<p>Wow, what a really great episode on a social enterprise called Genusee. Creatively designing eyewear out of recycled single-use plastic water bottles out of Flint, Michigan. Many of you may have heard some tough stories coming out of Flint. Specific to the water crisis over these past few years. You will meet the founders and designers, Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns. They will discuss their journey in Flint and the whole launch process to date.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome to episode 97 of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I am your host for this episode on a really great social enterprise called Genusee. They are out of Flint, Michigan. Many of you may have heard some tough stories coming out of Flint, Michigan specific to the water crisis over these past few years. You will meet the founders and designers, Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns. They discuss their journey in Flint and the whole launch process to date.<br />
Oh, it feels good to be back after a mini-hiatus. Thanks for hanging in there while we made some new shows!<br />
By the way, we have some great episodes coming up next from the east and west coasts culminating with a finale for Season 3 and our episode 100 which will be some interviews from the recent GUS awards held in Detroit.<br />
So subscribe and stay tuned.<br />
Now, let’s see what Natalie has in store for us on the Fun Fuel. What do you have for us, Natalie?<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.<br />
In today’s world, you see so many people wearing eyeglasses and on a super bright sunny day they most certainly break out their sunglasses.  Glasses have become ultra-fashionable and why shouldn’t they?  They most certainly are the very first thing people see when they look at your face unless they aren’t wearing theirs and they just can’t see you.<br />
According to the website lenspick.com, the first vision correction device was invented in 1000 AD and called a reading stone. As you can imagine, it was for farsighted folk who couldn’t read properly and was basically a glass sphere used as a magnifying glass.<br />
Now fast forward to 12th century China and you have the creation of Sunglasses. People back then used flat crystals of smoky quartz that were mounted for personal use to reduce the glare from the sun.<br />
It is also said that these ‘sunglasses’ were used by judges while presiding cases, so as not to give away their emotions.  Very interesting.<br />
So, throughout history, mankind has made some very unique and purposeful inventions, including eyeglasses, that truly make our lives easier.<br />
Thanks for listening and now on to the episode.<br />
Fascinating that the first pair of eyeglasses was documented to be in 1000 AD. Thank you, Natalie, your fun fuels are always so interesting!<br />
Let’s jump on in for a listen now to my conversation with Ali Rose Van Overbeke and Jack Burns and their really great company, Genusee.<br />
Romy:	So let's tell the listeners about Genusee.<br />
Ali Rose:	So Genusee is making eyewear in Flint, Michigan from recycled single-use plastic water bottles that were a result of the Flint water crisis.<br />
Romy:	So is it just the eyeglass frames, or are you putting the lenses in and all that?<br />
Ali Rose:	Yeah, we're doing everything. The frames are specifically what's made from the recycled water bottles, but we are working with an optical lab, so we do prescription eyeglasses as well as sunglasses.<br />
Romy:	So how did you make this connection, or even have this idea?<br />
Ali Rose:	Yeah, so Jack and I both went to Parsons together, and worked in a fellowship shortly after graduation, where we kind of learned that we were good working as collaborators. Then in early 2016, I was back in Michigan, I grew up in metro Detroit area. I was volunteering with the Red Cross during the Flint water crisis. Just observing how much plastic, we were delivering cases and cases of bottled water door to door every day, and was kind of just shocked by what was happening, and the need in my own backyard. It was just ... Jack and I are good friends, and it was just started as a super casual conversation of, "This is what's happening in Flint. What can we do with the plastic?" Really just wanting to do something to support the community. Started just asking people in the community specifically like, "What do you need? What does Flint need?" And everyone kept telling us, "Jobs." So we knew this wasn't just going to be a charity, or an NGO, or an art project. We needed to figure out how to start a business that could actually scale, and bring living wage jobs to the city.<br />
Romy:	Oh, and so how did you begin even to navigate the process of where you were going to get the bottles? Where did you even start?<br />
Jack Burns:	So we started off looking ... Generally, just asking questions, and digging down this rabbit hole further and further to find out where the plastic was going, and what it was becoming, and finding out that there was just this surplus of plastic. Then really sort of hacking the system, and trying to figure out what we wanted to make from this plastic, and what was capable. It turns out you can make ... PET is the same thing as polyester; it's a highly flexible material. So we really had a broad range of things that we could make with this plastic, but we really wanted to make something that was a product of purpose, and a product of need. We found that, with our unique design backgrounds that we ... That eyewear really fit the bill for what we wanted to make because it's both a medical device and a fashion product as well.<br />
Romy:	Yeah, and so are you guys designing the frames yourselves?<br />
Ali Rose:	Yes.<br />
Romy:	Okay, wow that's fun. That's really fun. How do you test that? How have you been prototyping your design?<br />
Ali Rose:	I'll let Jack continue with this.<br />
Jack Burns:	Yeah, I actually just got out of a meeting during this right now, so.<br />
Jack Burns:	So what we do ... How we started off, you know we were very much on a shoestring budget, early on. We invested a lot of time into this, rather than funds in the earlier stages. We're still knee deep in time, but now we have a little bit more funding, so we can allocate that towards prototyping a little bit further. When we first began, we started off just like taking photos of friends, and drawing on top of them, and seeing what sort of face shapes, what sort of shapes worked best with face shapes. So what frames worked best in that regard. Then we laser cut heavyweight paper mockups that we could hold up to our friends' faces, photograph, see what works best. So really trying to find these democratic shapes that could fit anyone and everyone. Then we received some grant funding, and we allocated that funding towards creating 3D printed prototypes. So we've been 3D printing to really flesh out the nuances of the design, and how that fits on the face, and the ergonomics of it all. That's really where the progression of prototyping and design has led us to today.<br />
Romy:	That's amazing, I love it.<br />
Ali Rose:	Jack touched on it, but we really set out with wanting to create something that was democratically designed, because we were going to launch with ... We knew we only really had the funding to be able to launch with one style, and we wanted to also ... I think customers are so overwhelmed by choice often that it's a bit debilitating. And creating, streamlining, the choice for the customer, and creating a really classic, democratically designed frame that would work as both prescription optical, but as well as sunglasses, and really working from what the median range of measurements of the face are. To be really particular about the design and the shape, so that it could fit as many people as possible.<br />
Romy:	Yeah I love it. It's so true. We're overloaded with choices. Even as simple [inaudible] here…especially when people are drawn to a social mission behind a product. They're already kind of excited, and they're likely to do it. It's just easier to narrow it down. How has the local community so far there in Flint, responded so far to what you're doing there?<br />
Ali Rose:	So we started ... Obviously, this started really through working with the community when I was getting involved with the Red Cross, and started building really early relationships just through other people that I'd been volunteering with who grew up in the city, and are really ingrained in the culture there. For the past two years, our focus has really been building more community relationships. That's been one of the most important parts of what we're doing. We're working with the Community Foundation in Flint. MADE Institute, which is where we're doing our hiring through. So MADE Institute works with individuals who are structurally unemployable, those who are displaced workers, and returning citizens, so people who are coming out of incarceration. They're doing really amazing work, and that's who we're going to be partnering with to hire our first employees. We're working with St. Luke's New Life Center, which is where our polishing bags are going to be made. Everyone that we have been building these relationships with has been really supportive, really excited, very welcoming.<br />
Ali Rose:	You know there has been some community members, who rightfully so, have been very skeptical of neither Jack or I are from Flint. I'm from Michigan, but I don't have long-term roots in Flint, and the city has been extremely taken advantage of ... through the water crisis. There's a lot of distrust, and there has been some individuals who have been a bit skeptical, but you know it's all about engaging in conversations. We're extremely open to sharing our process, and our plans, and what our supply chain is, and the immediate, and what the long-term goals are. We're mission-driven, and the whole point of the business is to be able to give back to Flint. It's really important that we are listening, and engaging in conversation with the community, and doing what's good for everyone.<br />
Romy:	Yeah. I love what you're doing. In my opinion, partnerships are fun. When you're really are able to get in relationships, it's fun to be part of a team. Sometimes when you're doing your own thing in social enterprise, it is really difficult to do it and do it well. Honor both your mission and your business, because sometimes they conflict. In terms of profit, sometimes you're going to spend some extra, because of your mission, or ... Which is just the nature of it? So it feels good to get into partnership with other organizations because you can feel part of a team. Which I think is really important for all of us out here.<br />
Ali Rose:	And Flint's so rich in art. The entrepreneur community there is really growing, and we've really started building relations with a lot of the other businesses and artisans down there. There's Article One Eyewear, GoodBoy Clothes, Sutorial ... Tim at Sutorial makes handmade leather boots. It's encouraging not just to be partnering with other organizations, but other makers in the city who've been there forever, and are really rooted.<br />
Romy:	Yeah, I'm glad you started to talk about Flint. I'm only there about once a week, but I absolutely love Flint. For many of the listeners, they may be somewhere around the globe, and all they may have heard about Flint is maybe some negative news or watched a negative Netflix show about it. Could you speak to your view of the people of Flint, and what your experience is, at kind of a higher level?<br />
Ali Rose:	Yeah. Flint is, first and foremost, the people in Flint are some of the hardest working, most resilient people, I've ever met. That's I think one of the main reasons that I was really attracted to wanting to not just start a business there, but live there, and move there as well. Media loves a good story, and a lot of times, sadly, somehow that becomes a negative story because there's more drama in it. I don't know. I see ... Media did this with Detroit for a really long time. Just always focusing on the blight, and the negativity, and the crime. Now Detroit's a global brand, and I'm not to compare Flint to Detroit at all, but just how the media recently has been so focused on the negative things that are happening in Flint. I think there also needs to be the same amount of attention to the positive things that are happening, and because the city has really, truly been kind of abandoned by the government, in being able to help them through the water crisis. You've seen a lot of local organizations, and local individuals, really step up to the plate. It's been the people in Flint who have really been the ones leading the way, though not just the water crisis, but the last couple of decades as well.<br />
Romy:	Right. This has been going on a long time. The people of Flint are so resilient; it's extraordinary. Well, thanks for speaking to that, and just for many of our listeners who ... Just to orient, Flint, Michigan is approximately 70 miles or just over about 110 kilometers north of Detroit. Just to anchor some of our listeners. Let's zoom you out even further. You've had a lot of press, and had opportunities to be in some amazing publications. Let's talk about this because you've really gotten the attention at a national level.<br />
Jack Burns:	Yeah, we've been really fortunate. It has not come without hard work. It's really just been contacting people, friends of friends. So much of it is just networking, in order to talk about the story, and then it really has had a bit of a snowball effect. Which is then great. We only want to continue that, and to ... fulfill on all of what we've been talking about and putting forward. We're really excited for all of the press and attention. Although our real mission, and why we do what we do, is really human focused, and focused on the benefit of the planet as well, so. While the stories are great, and the exposure is great, really the thing that we really want to do is make a difference, so.<br />
Ali Rose:	And you know-<br />
Romy:	Right. Of course, yep. But it helps to get exposure because it gets more customers. So it does, right?<br />
Jack Burns:	Yeah, yeah. And we can make a larger difference. Yeah, exactly.<br />
Ali Rose:	We've been ... the one fortunate thing about the fact that Jack and I both went to Parsons, and have lived in New York, and ... Jacks currently in New York, and I've just transitioned back to Michigan is, we've made so many amazing connections in press and media, and the creative world in New York. Obviously, there's the recent press that we have received. We've really been able to capitalize on those relationships that we've built in New York. What's exciting about that is being able to ... I think a lot of times press can be kind of ... Media attention can be kind of siloed and being able to bring those connections with us to Michigan, and to Flint. Sharing ... Bringing more attention to even other businesses, and the other positive things that are happening in the city, I think, is been one of the really exciting things for us. Just kind of creating a bridge between the creative relationships we have in New York and bringing those to Flint as well.<br />
Romy:	Yeah. Awesome, yeah. Relationships and connections, it all helps, and it's really is a smaller world at the end of the day than what it seems. So, it's all about people's trust in us, and how we deliver, and execute on that. Let's kind of go back down to your business. You guys, along your development and funding stream, you were able to launch a very successful Kickstarter campaign. For those of you who might want to look up their website, you'll be able to see ... The campaign is still on your website right? The video link. Was that true, or?<br />
Ali Rose:	Right now our website links to ... so the Kickstarter ended about a month ago, but we're still taking pre-orders through Indiegogo. So there's a link right now on our website, it says, "Buy Now" and it'll link you to the Indiegogo. Which has a lot of the same content in the videos from the Kickstarter.<br />
Romy:	Okay. It's really good. I'd encourage all the listeners to get on there. It's genusee.com. It's G-E-N-U-S, like Sam. E-E.com. Yeah, so get on, and check this out. What's the plans, and what is the stage of business that you're in right now? You've come of this Kickstarter. You're in the design mode and getting partners. What is the phase that you're in, right at this moment?<br />
Ali Rose:	Getting our manufacturing up and running. We did a Kickstarter because we needed the funding specifically to fund this first initial production run. Now that that's been successful we've ... Jacks been working on finalizing all of the design details of our frame, so it's perfect when we ship it out. Then we're going into our tooling, and our molds will be made. We'll be hiring our first employees either late July or early August to start manufacturing and assembling the frames.<br />
Romy:	And do you see, Ali and Jack, that that'll probably be your primary types of roles there at your business? Assembly and manufacturing roles for jobs?<br />
Ali Rose:	Starting out, the first employees that we will be hiring, the focus will be on assembly, manufacturing, logistics, but the more the business grows, and the more glasses were able to sell, we're going to be able to hire more employees. It's been really important for us to not just create one kind of job, or just manufacturing jobs in Flint, but to be able to create diverse jobs. There's people with different kinds of interests and skills, so being able to create creative jobs, even in marketing, and social media and design is really important for us.<br />
Romy:	Yeah. That's fantastic. So do you guys let yourselves dream really, really big? With what you know right now, what could this look like, someday?<br />
Ali Rose:	Jack, do you want to ...<br />
Jack Burns:	What could this look like someday ... I mean it's ... So yes, we are making glasses now, and I definitely perceive this being a fully integrated facility where we can manufacture, do the injection molding, do all the post-processing. Have customer service, have people working on all levels, and ... with positions that have real growth potential to them. Then slowly branching out into other product spaces. Things where we can really upcycle single-use materials into products that have a much longer lifespan. That's really our aim behind a lot of what we're doing, is this single-use lifestyle just is not sustainable. So how can we leverage our knowledge of materials, and design to elevate these products, and these materials to a place that is almost endless or is endless? The product that can live and be with people and integrate themselves into everyday life. Then hopefully people will begin to really shift ideals in to, why are we using these materials that last forever in a single use platform. It just doesn't make sense. Slowly shifting away from this single-use lifestyle, and more towards upcycling.<br />
Ali Rose:	We'll be the largest global upcycle of single-use plastic.<br />
Romy:	Yeah, there you go. That's fantastic. Did you guys kind of land on this single use upcycling, because I liked the way you phrased that, that's very clear to what it is? When did you kind of learn about that concept, or when]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-genusee-97]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2598</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2c8f0ae4-387f-4979-a832-b84e5ec3d6ab/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:25:45 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c582d81b-7c03-4986-b5bb-e7fd4d945b27/97genusee.mp3" length="46032800" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Genusee Wow, what a really great episode on a social enterprise called Genusee. Creatively designing eyewear out of recycled single-use plastic water bottles out of Flint, Michigan. Many of you may have heard some tough stories coming out of Flint. Specific to the water crisis over these past few years. You will meet the founders and designers,…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Plum Health DPC with Dr. Paul Thomas #96</title><itunes:title>S3: Plum Health DPC with Dr. Paul Thomas #96</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Dr. Paul Thomas with Plum Health DPC</h2>
<p>We’re back with another episode here on social enterprise. We have a doctor on this show who has been making a big impact in Detroit. It is Dr. Paul Thomas of Plum Health Care DPC. He has a dream of changing the notion of health care from a plastic card in your wallet to true healing from a healing doctor!  What a concept!</p>
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			<p><p>Hi Everyone, this is Romy, and we’re back with another episode here on social enterprise. We have a doctor on this show who has been making a big impact in Detroit. It is Dr. Paul Thomas of Plum Health Care DPC. He has a dream of changing the notion of health care from a plastic card in your wallet to true healing from a healing doctor!  What a concept!<br />
Before we get going here, I want to give a big hello and thanks to our listeners in Japan, we appreciate you!<br />
Now, let’s see what Natalie has today for us on the Fun Fuel….<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.</p>
<p>The Medicine Ball isn’t usually the hottest topic of conversation. </p>
<p> If you like to exercise and are a gym goer, you may incorporate the medicine ball into your routine.  Or perhaps this little dynamo isn’t a part of your repertoire and you pass by, leaving it sitting on the rack wondering what to do with it.  </p>
<p>While there are many ways to use the medicine ball in strength training, according to the website, azcentral.com, </p>
<p>One of the early uses of medicine balls was around 1,000 B.C. where Persian soldiers used round bladders filled with sand as part of their resistance training.<br />
Later on, Navy doctors would tell sailors to throw the balls around the decks of the ships to reduce boredom, avoid seasickness and improve the overall health of the enlisted men.<br />
But it was the United States President Herbert Hoover who brought the medicine ball to the attention of the rest of society in 1931 with his new sport called Hoover-Ball.<br />
When the president’s personal physician noticed the president’s sedentary lifestyle he developed a medicine ball throwing game to get him up and moving around. The president and members of his team would throw the sand-filled ball over a net similar to the one used during volleyball games.  Big kudos to this physician’s creativity to get his patient out and about and active.<br />
Like other early games, Hoover-Ball may not be played today, but the medicine ball surely has played an important role in many people’s overall health.<br />
Thanks for listening and now on to the episode.<br />
Well, that was truly a fun fuel fact!  I]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Dr. Paul Thomas with Plum Health DPC</h2>
<p>We’re back with another episode here on social enterprise. We have a doctor on this show who has been making a big impact in Detroit. It is Dr. Paul Thomas of Plum Health Care DPC. He has a dream of changing the notion of health care from a plastic card in your wallet to true healing from a healing doctor!  What a concept!</p>
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			<p><p>Hi Everyone, this is Romy, and we’re back with another episode here on social enterprise. We have a doctor on this show who has been making a big impact in Detroit. It is Dr. Paul Thomas of Plum Health Care DPC. He has a dream of changing the notion of health care from a plastic card in your wallet to true healing from a healing doctor!  What a concept!<br />
Before we get going here, I want to give a big hello and thanks to our listeners in Japan, we appreciate you!<br />
Now, let’s see what Natalie has today for us on the Fun Fuel….<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.</p>
<p>The Medicine Ball isn’t usually the hottest topic of conversation. </p>
<p> If you like to exercise and are a gym goer, you may incorporate the medicine ball into your routine.  Or perhaps this little dynamo isn’t a part of your repertoire and you pass by, leaving it sitting on the rack wondering what to do with it.  </p>
<p>While there are many ways to use the medicine ball in strength training, according to the website, azcentral.com, </p>
<p>One of the early uses of medicine balls was around 1,000 B.C. where Persian soldiers used round bladders filled with sand as part of their resistance training.<br />
Later on, Navy doctors would tell sailors to throw the balls around the decks of the ships to reduce boredom, avoid seasickness and improve the overall health of the enlisted men.<br />
But it was the United States President Herbert Hoover who brought the medicine ball to the attention of the rest of society in 1931 with his new sport called Hoover-Ball.<br />
When the president’s personal physician noticed the president’s sedentary lifestyle he developed a medicine ball throwing game to get him up and moving around. The president and members of his team would throw the sand-filled ball over a net similar to the one used during volleyball games.  Big kudos to this physician’s creativity to get his patient out and about and active.<br />
Like other early games, Hoover-Ball may not be played today, but the medicine ball surely has played an important role in many people’s overall health.<br />
Thanks for listening and now on to the episode.<br />
Well, that was truly a fun fuel fact!  I love it. So much history of innovation and disruptive strategies all around us!  That is a great segway to my conversation with Dr. Paul Thomas.<br />
Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yes, so we are a family medicine service in Southwest Detroit, called Plum Health DPC, and the DPC stands for Direct Primary Care. What that means is that I work with my patients directly, and we don't bill or use insurance. Instead, my patients pay me a monthly membership fee to be a part of the practice, kind of like a gym membership. Our service cost is $49 a month for adults, and it's $10 a month for kids. With that, my patients can come in and see me anytime they need me. That's the basic of it.</p>
<p>Romy:	How did you get the idea to start to do this?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Well, I heard a podcast in 2012, and I was driving back from a residency interview in Minnesota. My friend sent me this text, and she just said, "Hey, Paul, there's this guy doing this libertarian concept for medical care, and I think it's right up your alley." My friend's a libertarian, so I gave it a listen, and it sounded like this really great idea, but at the time, I wanted to be a teacher, a family medicine doctor who teaches other students and residents, so I filed it in the back of my mind.</p>
<p>	Then I went to this conference for the Michigan Academy of Family Physicians, and there was this really powerful speaker, who talked about the value of being a primary care doctor, all the great things that we can do for our patients, and the value of using a membership model to serve our patients. These two doctors were relentlessly positive and upbeat about their work that they were doing, and it was inspiring, so I did this road trip and visited their practices. One was in Wichita, and that gentleman was Dr. Josh Umbehr, and one was in Denver, Colorado, and his practice was NextEra Health, and that was Dr. Clint Flanagan.</p>
<p>	I had, really, two great mentors. I drove out, and I took the best of exactly what they were doing, and I brought it back to Detroit. In short, I stole the idea from some other great thinkers.</p>
<p>Romy:	So, are you originally from Detroit, or what's your connection to Detroit?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah, so I was born here, and I grew up in Grosse Pointe, so I've always been in and around the city. And my family has been in the city for multiple generations, so it's kind of somewhere I care a lot about and a place that I want to give back to.</p>
<p>Romy:	So, when did you officially open for business, as Dr. Paul Thomas, DPC in Detroit?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	November 1, 2016, and it's a little bit hazy. I know it was November, but I just had some people pre-enrolled, and then one of those people who had pre-enrolled for the IVF Plum Health actually needed something in November, so I started seeing them, and I guess it's the first official time that I've launched. And I was making house calls at that point, and then I established my physical office in January of 2017.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	At this point, it's about 95% in office work, and I'll make a house call here or there for people who really need it.</p>
<p>Romy:	And so, what has the response been? Because it's very inexpensive to have your services. It's really destructive in the healthcare market, and I mean that, in really, I hesitate to use the word innovative, but it's just going back to the basics, which is about us as human beings. How has it been received in the Detroit market by your customers?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah. I mean our customer reviews speak for themselves. We've got a ton of great reviews on Google, on Facebook, and Yelp, et cetera. I mean, that's kind of like a basic layer for that. But it's been a really positive reception from community leaders like we won the Motor City Match Award, and we're going to use that money to build out a larger office. We've been invited to speak at TEDx Detroit, and that was a really positive response to what we're doing. And I think the community has embraced this idea. I think some people might be a little skeptical at first of, "Why don't you take my insurance?" But once they get into the practice, once they meet me, once we talk and once I spend an hour with them to go over their health history and figure out what their concerns are, I win people over pretty quickly to the idea of direct primary care.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right. Just because it's always been one way for them doesn't mean it's still the right way to go forward. You know. And I don't think people realize how expensive insurance is to manage for physicians.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah. So typically, a doctor spends more ... half or two-thirds of their time doing non-patient care activities. And one of those, the biggest activities is billing and coding the medical encounter. So, you go in for a visit, and you have a 20-minute time slot with your doctor. And they might spend 8 minutes with you and then use the other 12 to document the visit appropriately and then send it off to the biller. And then that's not where it ends. They have to hire a bunch of billers and coders to double-check their work and then send it off to the insurance company for payment. And if you're lucky, the insurance company will pay you about 60% of what you bill out. Right? So, let's say you bill for a strep throat visit, which is $140 and get paid maybe 60% of that, so you're left with about 90 bucks. But then you have to ... usually half of your revenue goes to your overhead, you have a really high overhead running a traditional family medicine office. So, you're paying all your billers and coders to do that work.</p>
<p>	So, in short, doctors are spending a lot of time and a lot of money trying to get paid by insurance companies. So, by removing all of that, kind of, rubbish, let's say, I get to spend all of my time with my patients. And I don't have to send my bill to an insurance company. I just ask my patient to pay me the fifty bucks a month.</p>
<p>Romy:	Love it. Love it, love it. I'm a huge fan of this bringing the services direct. I love it. Eliminating the middle-man.</p>
<p>	Well, what are some of the things that you're seeing from an impact on people's health? I'm just really curious to see if more people are stepping up and saying, "I'd like to use..." They're more likely to maybe use your services.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah. Yeah, I mean the stories that I've come across, the people that I've met are unbelievable. You know, folks who don't have insurance and are scared about what it's going to cost to go in to get something taken care of. And then they sign up for a membership with me, after like 4, 5, 10. I had a guy who came in; he was 40. And he hadn't been to the doctor since high school. So, like 22 years. Not seeing a doctor because he was scared about what it would cost. And so, I end up finding a lot of high blood pressure that's been untreated, or diabetes that's been untreated and the person may not even be aware of it because a lot of these diseases or conditions can be silent and that's the real danger. They call high blood pressure, or hypertension, the silent killer because you don't know you have a problem until you might have a heart attack or a stroke.</p>
<p>	So, those are tough, when you have that conversation, like, "Listen. Your blood pressure's been elevated for God knows how long, but I'm glad you're here now. Let's take care of it." And then they're surprised to find out that the blood pressure medication that they might need is one cent per pill. So, they're spending 30 cents a month to manage it now.</p>
<p>Romy:	Gets rid of that whole fear piece.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	At first, I had a pretty strong, well I still do. But I used social media to get out there. I wrote a blog post. I speak at events, like TEDx Detroit. I talk to as many bloggers and podcasters as I can. I wrote some opinion pieces for the Detroit News. I got interviewed on Channel 4, WDIV which was awesome. That really got the word out for us. That was a huge break.</p>
<p>	So, all of those things in combination has led to a strong funnel for people to find our practice and now that we're up to about 250 members, and we've been doing this for a year and a half, word of mouth is starting to play a role, where people are starting to refer their friends or family and people and people are really comfortable with the service and enjoy the service. So, we're growing in all sorts of ways now.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's powerful. I think that's pretty encouraging for other service providers considering this membership model. That's turned out to work well for you, right?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah. It's worked great. And I guess somebody asked me about how you've been successful in marketing, so if you're thinking of starting a business, or if you want to provide a service to the world, tell people why you're doing it. And for me, my why is that I want to bring affordable, accessible health care to Detroit. And that hasn't been here always. It's not routinely available. So, when I tell that story, it resonates with people and people want to share it. So, if you want to do something great, if you have ambition-driven business or a charitable organization, get really good at telling your story and why it's valuable for people.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. That's such a good word that we can get tangled up in. Sometimes defending why we're out they and we forget to talk about that powerful why that gets us up in the morning.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Right.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah So let's move into something ... another angle of your business. You also offer healthcare services to an entire business. Right? Kind of, I would call that almost a commercial offering.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yeah. Definitely. I have a few small businesses that have signed up for our service. A restaurant, like an organization that manufactures a product, a political campaign and in total that comes out to about 35 to 40 employees in total among those different businesses that we have enrolled. And essentially, their employees receive the same services that an individual would, but the employer pays for those services. So, it's a direct primary care option for small businesses, and it works really well for those companies that are either self-insured or they don't have enough revenue to provide health insurance for all their team members, but they do want to provide some sort of health care because it's the right thing to do. So, I'm happy to help those folks out.</p>
<p>Romy:	That speaks to the health of the business, too, right? If they've got healthy employees, then they can offer something, right? Traditional health insurance is very expensive for a small employer. And that's ... can be almost overwhelming in terms of a monthly cash flow for a small business. So, this is a great alternative.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Right. So, like, yeah, it's one of employees at the restaurant cuts their finger and they need stitches, they can call me up, and they're right down the street so they can get it done, pretty much, right away. And it costs $10 for the suture material and the laceration kit, the tools that I need to do the job. So, the charge for that visit is ten bucks.</p>
<p>Romy:	Has anyone been upset with you that you're doing it this way?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Well, I get a couple of people who call in and who ask me to be their doctor. Well, I can't. "I saw your great reviews on Google, like 30 five-star reviews, and my friend told me about you, and this is awesome." And I'll say something like, "Oh. This is so great. I'm so happy to hear that. Before we get started I just want to make sure that you understand that this is a monthly membership, it's fifty bucks a month, I don't bill or use your insurance." And they're like, "Well, I have X health insurance product." And I'm like, "Okay, that's great. I don't bill or use that." And they're like, "What do you mean; you don't? Like, why do I have this?" And that's like, that's the most upset anyone will ever get. And I can understand. They either hang up at that point and say, "All right. I'm sorry. I didn't understand fully."</p>
<p>	Or, I'll explain to them there's a difference between health insurance and healthcare. And health insurance is a financial product to protect you from bankruptcy, like car insurance or home insurance, et cetera. And healthcare is the relationship with the doctor. Somebody that listens to you understands your concerns and is able to help you in a holistic, patient-centered way. And that's what I throw at my patients. That holistic approach. The time to listen, the time to care about them. And that's healthcare.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yes. Right. And any other, have you inspired any other physicians to say, "Hey, gosh, I would consider either joining you or doing something similar?"</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	Yes. For sure. So, I meet with ... I meet and talk with a new doctor almost every day. Definitely a few times a week. There's doctor who's going to be starting up in Northern Oakland County, kind of under my guidance. There's a doctor who's looking at opening up in Ypsilanti, again under my guidance. And then I have a few physicians who are interested in joining my practice. So, just kind of evaluating options and growth strategies to make it work in a sustainable way.</p>
<p>	And then another thing is I teach at the medical school, at Wayne State, and I also give lectures there and some interacting with students in trying to inspire the next generation of family doctors or internists, or pediatricians to do this, kind of, membership-based practice because I feel like there is a much bigger option for satisfaction and the ability to give the greatest care possible when you have enough time to deliver that care.</p>
<p>Romy:	Well, I love the idea of you expanding with you at the helm, because at some point there's only so many people you can see. But I love this idea that you're teaching some others or attempting to inspire some others. I'm sure you are. You're a great speaker. I've heard you speak in public before, and I was inspired. So, I think that's thrilling for me to hear that you're inviting others to participate at the table. I think the world's a better place when we invite others to join up in the train and it becomes a bigger and bigger impact. How ... that's a good segue to ask about dreaming big. If you were going to let yourself just dream off big with just what you know as of today, what could this look like?</p>
<p>Dr. Paul Thomas:	I think this could look like a nation where we, kid of, get rid of these old notions of what good healthcare looks like, and starting to realize that it doesn't look like a piece of plastic in our wallet, and it looks like a relationship with someone in our community that's a healer, that can listen, that has the time to address your concerns. And my dream is that more and more physician’s kind of wake up and also have the courage to step out on their own and to deliver the kind of care that they were trained to deliver, and rather than just being told that they only have eight minutes to spend with their patients. That rather just saying, "I get to decide what I get to do with my time because I'm not beholden to you, a third-party entity, like an insurance company or a government payer. Like my patients pay me directly so I'm going to do whatever I can to serve them the way I would want to serve a family member or friend. So, that's the message that I'm delivering to my]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-plum-health-dpc-dr-paul-thomas-96]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2531</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/97f97de5-a501-4ba1-b1d3-f00e9f2eccdd/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:34:06 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c0f415f4-1b98-460b-bdfa-d2bcae31af3b/96plumhealth.mp3" length="39154987" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Dr. Paul Thomas with Plum Health DPC We’re back with another episode here on social enterprise. We have a doctor on this show who has been making a big impact in Detroit. It is Dr. Paul Thomas of Plum Health Care DPC. He has a dream of changing the notion of health care from a…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: PalmEraMia #95</title><itunes:title>S3: PalmEraMia #95</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>PalmEraMia</h2>
<p>Thanks for tuning in for this great episode on a social enterprise out of Miami! Our guest is Andres Restrepo, one of the founders of PalmEraMia, which is a fashion design company for athletic wear. Through their product sales, they support clean water efforts in Colombia. We learn why they chose Colombia and how they became so convicted about clean water for those without access. Stay tuned until the end of the show because we have our first Spanish rapper as our closing song on this episode.</p>
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			<p><p>Thanks for tuning in for this great episode on a social enterprise out of Miami!  This is Romy, and I am honored to be your host. Our guest is Andres Restrepo, one of the founders of PalmEraMia, which is a fashion design company for athletic wear. Through their product sales, they support clean water efforts in Colombia. We learn why they chose Colombia and how they became so convicted about clean water for those without access. We have our first Spanish rapper as our closing song on this episode.<br />
I want to take a moment to thank our listeners. Our team has grown over here at the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and it is really about you, as our listeners, continuing to tune in. Thank you, thank you, thank you. By the way, don’t be shy!  Reach out to us! Hit us up on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram which are all at bonfires podcast or you can jump to the website and email us or put a note in the mailbag. The website is www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com  We respond quickly, and we love to talk to you!<br />
So, back to our topic of business and social good.  I think Natalie has something about water for us in our Fun Fuel……</p>
<p>I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episodes’ Fun Fuel.<br />
Many people have taken to the longstanding sport of surfing, riding amazing ocean waves.  But did you know that you can surf the Great Lakes?<br />
Now it is different than surfing in the ocean, mainly because nothing will eat you in the great lakes which to me is a huge bonus!   According to Third Coast Surf Shops website,<br />
Waves on the great lakes are caused by the transfer of energy from the wind blowing over the surface of the water. Whereas ocean waves are primarily created by offshore storms far from the beach, waves on the Lakes are produced by localized winds associated with various weather systems in and near the Great Lakes region. The great lakes have plenty of wind year-round to generate some huge waves. Waves on the great lakes have been documented at over 30 feet in height.  Unfortunately, these conditions have been known to be brutal and have sunk many ships over the years.  So while the Great Lakes can produce very large waves perfect for surfing, keep in mind you may find those perfect waves in the harsh cold of winter.<br />
So bring a good wetsuit, board, and courage to tackle these Great Lakes waves!<br />
That’s this episodes fun fuel, now let’s join in with Romy and her guest.<br />
Surfing on the Great Lakes – love it. Thanks, Natalie!<br />
Okay, let’s drop in on my conversation with Andres and learn more about PalmEraMia.<br />
Romy:	Okay. Well, welcome to the Bonfires Social Enterprise.</p>
<p>Andres:	Thank you. I appreciate it. Happy to be here.</p>
<p>Romy:	I know. We've been trying to connect for a little bit. I'm really glad to have you on the show as our guest today. Let's tell all of our listeners what Palm ... and am I saying it...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>PalmEraMia</h2>
<p>Thanks for tuning in for this great episode on a social enterprise out of Miami! Our guest is Andres Restrepo, one of the founders of PalmEraMia, which is a fashion design company for athletic wear. Through their product sales, they support clean water efforts in Colombia. We learn why they chose Colombia and how they became so convicted about clean water for those without access. Stay tuned until the end of the show because we have our first Spanish rapper as our closing song on this episode.</p>
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			<p><p>Thanks for tuning in for this great episode on a social enterprise out of Miami!  This is Romy, and I am honored to be your host. Our guest is Andres Restrepo, one of the founders of PalmEraMia, which is a fashion design company for athletic wear. Through their product sales, they support clean water efforts in Colombia. We learn why they chose Colombia and how they became so convicted about clean water for those without access. We have our first Spanish rapper as our closing song on this episode.<br />
I want to take a moment to thank our listeners. Our team has grown over here at the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and it is really about you, as our listeners, continuing to tune in. Thank you, thank you, thank you. By the way, don’t be shy!  Reach out to us! Hit us up on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram which are all at bonfires podcast or you can jump to the website and email us or put a note in the mailbag. The website is www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com  We respond quickly, and we love to talk to you!<br />
So, back to our topic of business and social good.  I think Natalie has something about water for us in our Fun Fuel……</p>
<p>I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episodes’ Fun Fuel.<br />
Many people have taken to the longstanding sport of surfing, riding amazing ocean waves.  But did you know that you can surf the Great Lakes?<br />
Now it is different than surfing in the ocean, mainly because nothing will eat you in the great lakes which to me is a huge bonus!   According to Third Coast Surf Shops website,<br />
Waves on the great lakes are caused by the transfer of energy from the wind blowing over the surface of the water. Whereas ocean waves are primarily created by offshore storms far from the beach, waves on the Lakes are produced by localized winds associated with various weather systems in and near the Great Lakes region. The great lakes have plenty of wind year-round to generate some huge waves. Waves on the great lakes have been documented at over 30 feet in height.  Unfortunately, these conditions have been known to be brutal and have sunk many ships over the years.  So while the Great Lakes can produce very large waves perfect for surfing, keep in mind you may find those perfect waves in the harsh cold of winter.<br />
So bring a good wetsuit, board, and courage to tackle these Great Lakes waves!<br />
That’s this episodes fun fuel, now let’s join in with Romy and her guest.<br />
Surfing on the Great Lakes – love it. Thanks, Natalie!<br />
Okay, let’s drop in on my conversation with Andres and learn more about PalmEraMia.<br />
Romy:	Okay. Well, welcome to the Bonfires Social Enterprise.</p>
<p>Andres:	Thank you. I appreciate it. Happy to be here.</p>
<p>Romy:	I know. We've been trying to connect for a little bit. I'm really glad to have you on the show as our guest today. Let's tell all of our listeners what Palm ... and am I saying it right? Palm Era Mia?</p>
<p>Andres:	That is correct. Some-</p>
<p>Romy:	Palm Era Mia.</p>
<p>Andres:	... people say-</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Andres:	... yes. Some people say Palm Era M-I-A because it represents Miami.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, Okay.</p>
<p>Andres:	Yes. Yeah, so let me tell you a little bit about it. We first started the company back in August of 2015. It was started by three family members. It's two cousins and I. We started it up just because we had a passion for fashion. We wanted to just make sure we did something about it. We had a passion for doing something different. We said, "Hey, let's give it a shot." At the time we were all looking to do something that mattered. It became more of an idea that we said, "Hey, let's put it out there. Let's see what it looks like." It was more of my cousins that started on the fashion end. I'm more of a business-oriented person. When they presented me the idea of what exactly they wanted to do, I saw that it was something that was a potential opportunity to do something that was worth it.</p>
<p>	We started off by creating some shirts and hats. We started off by getting some guidance from people that knew about the world of fashion already. We were fortunate enough to find some people that guided us along the path a little bit. Then we decided that we not only wanted to do something related to fashion, but we also wanted to do something that mattered, that took care of a problem in the world. We wanted to help out. We decided to start looking for something that mattered. We found that there was a great need for water around the world. We had some idea that there was some countries in Africa and certain things like you get to see on TV where there's places where there's drought, and there's people that suffer from water scarcity, but then we realized the problem was bigger than we thought.</p>
<p>	There's close to a billion people around the world on an everyday basis that don't have access to clean water. We said that could be a great cause because we can live without food for a while. We can live without shelter for a bit, as well, but if you don't have water within a week your body starts having big issues. We decided to take care of that immediate need and see what we could do. Now what we do is that we take 10% of profits and we donate it to those who don't have access to clean water around the world.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, gosh. When you brought up the social side of it, was your team in agreement with becoming basically a social enterprise?</p>
<p>Andres:	Yes, so we actually, as I mentioned, were family members. We were all raised to always be aware of those who don't have as much as you do, even if what you have isn't much, to be able to help out a little bit. Just to give out a lending hand and we thought, "Hey, maybe at some point when the brand does well, we should think of helping other people out." But then someone brought up, "Hey, but why don't we start helping since the beginning? We just make it part of who the brand is and help people identify to it." When we thought about it more we said, "Hey, that would be a great idea because what that'll do is, that'll bring additional value. When people buy something from the brand, they'll wear it with pride." That's where that came about. Since we thought about it that way, it was a unanimous decision across the board that we just wanted for it to be a portion of profits.</p>
<p>Romy:	How do you-</p>
<p>Andres:	It was very cool.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, I'm sorry. How do you find your customers, both new and repeating, react to that? Do you ever get any feedback from that?</p>
<p>Andres:	Yeah, so we-</p>
<p>Romy:	From social about you?</p>
<p>Andres:	... yeah, we actually get a lot of people come on the site, and they like the brand. But we've found that what we've done not only helps people out and it's self-satisfying, but at the same time, like I was telling you, it does add that additional value to the people who are looking for something that's worth it, because they feel like they're not just buying a piece of clothing, they're wearing something that represents something good. They feel that they can ... We've had people that tell us, "Hey, look. I like your shirts and I like shirts from somewhere else, but I really appreciate that you guys are doing something for the world, so I went ahead and got something from your site." You get people giving us feedback all the time. We tend to post videos on what we've done for the cause. People have great reactions to it. They're very excited about what we're going to do next.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow. While we're still on this social mission side of your organization having to deal with water, how did you go about selecting some of the organizations that you partner with for the water portion?</p>
<p>Andres:	Right. So, I as a ... My career is as an accountant. My mind tends to be very logical, very within-the-box, as compared to my cousins, which are more on the creative side. We actually kind of make a pretty good team because we offer kind of both sides of the spectrum, my side being more logical and seeing it from what-fits-in-the-box kind of point of view. We decided to look for someone that could show that whatever was donated was actually being used for the cause itself, that it wasn't being used for something different because as many people see it when it comes to charity, unfortunately, there's people that mishandle whatever funds they receive. We wanted to make sure that it went to somewhere where these funds were actually being used properly.</p>
<p>	At first, we started donating directly to Charity: Water, which is an organization based out of New York. They're very clear about where their funds go. They use it to directly build the wells for basically areas or ... what do you call it ... regions and little towns where they don't have access to clean water. We started donating directly to them, but as part of what we wanted to do, we wanted to get more directly involved. We didn't want to just donate the money. We wanted to be a part of what was going on, go to communities and directly make contact with these people so we can understand what needs they truly have.</p>
<p>	At first, we donated to Charity: Water just because we didn't have the resources to be able to visit these communities. We did that for the first year and a half. Actually this past year, we transitioned from donating to Charity: Water to actually going to a community that needed access to water through an organization that we had met. This organization </p>
<p>	... that this gentleman was raising funds for his organization through a 5K. We wanted to participate, so we went to the 5K to help him raise some funds for his cause. We had a direct conversation with him. He told us what he was doing. We thought it was a great idea because we are from Colombia in South America and so was he. He was directly trying to help out some communities in Colombia. We thought, "Hey, that's a territory that we actually see that needs a lot of help, so why don't we give this a shot?" We had a conversation with him to see if we could visit the community itself. He was actually looking for volunteers to go help out.</p>
<p>	We transitioned from donating to Charity: Water to actually going to the community this past November. It was actually very representative because we were able to go during Thanksgiving. It was a great time, of in a way of giving thanks for all the people that had helped out throughout the year and purchased anything from the brand, to be able to bring all those funds we had gathered to be able to help out a community in need. It was actually really nice.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow. I love that organic and authentic part of this story that you're from Colombia, and you ended up reconnecting right back there. It's a nicer, more natural fit. I think sometimes we ... those of us in social enterprise and impact investing ... sometimes we can get trying too hard to do the right thing, and there is something in our own history, or our own backyard, or something nearer to us that is actually a better, easier fit. That's interesting.</p>
<p>Andres:	Right. It was definitely very nice. We were [inaudible 00:11:51] being from Colombia, still having family members there, and still being very connected to the country. Even though we had heard there's areas in the northern part of Colombia that ... they're desert regions ... that we knew maybe didn't have as much access to water, but they've always been there all their life, but unfortunately the past few years they've had years of drought. There's actually areas where there's ... One of the areas that we visited, there was three years without rain. From the news and what they tell us in that area, there was a portion in that area where we visited, over that span of three years, around 15,000 children died. It's something that is a very serious problem, even in a country might have the resources to help, but they're just, unfortunately, they're not getting to the right area, so, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	That statistic is unnerving. Yeah.</p>
<p>Andres:	Yeah. It's tough news. We decided. We're like, "Hey, we have to try and do something. These are our people. We've got to try to do a little bit at least."</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, yeah. Well, that's powerful. That really anchors a "why" in your mission there. Boy, I could go deep-diving into that one, but let me make sure we talk about your great product line. You have both men's, women's, and accessories. Let's kind of jump over to what I call the bonfire or the heat engine that makes this all work, the business side of it. Let's talk about your product line.</p>
<p>Andres:	So as we started on the brand, we slowly started making our name for ourselves. We've become known as the streetwear brand with a charitable mindset. We started off just with t-shirts and hats. Then we slowly started exploring other areas. We started coming out with some sweatshirts and long-sleeved shirts, and we've gotten to the point where we have some great products. Now we have jackets. We have some hoodies, some bracelets. We've made accessories, fanny packs, shoulder bags. We have plenty of nice things. We've always focused on creating great quality. As we do that, we've also slowly started venturing into new materials. One of our great products right is, for example, a gentleman's jacket that's made out of neoprene, or other people know it as scuba material, which is what scuba divers use for whenever they're diving in colder temperatures.</p>
<p>Romy:	Interesting.</p>
<p>Andres:	Yeah, so the jacket is a great feel. It's very smooth. It's great for weather. It's a little bit of whether you're in an area like us down here in south Florida where we only get a little bit of winter, just on the occasional night that drops into the 60s, 70s, or also I was recently out in Colorado in an area where it was around 30 degrees. It felt great, as well, because what that material does is that it doesn't allow the outside temperature to affect, I guess, how you feel. It just kind of keeps that out. It's like an insulator, which is very good. It's also great for traveling because it doesn't wrinkle up.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, nice. Nice. Yeah, so in the website right now. I'm going to give them the website a couple of times. It's palmeramia.com. Anyone who's interested in listening to the podcast right now can jump on and look what Andres is saying. Beautiful, beautiful clothing there.</p>
<p>Andres:	Yeah. And then also, you can find us on all our social media websites. It's also PalmEraMia, which is P-A-L-M-E-R-A-M-I-A. We're constantly updating you on what we're doing, and what we have coming up new collection lines. We're trying to come out with a new collection every three months or so for every season. We have some exciting things coming up for this spring, a little more formal attire. And then also for the summer, we have something that's going to be really exciting. It's going to be the big collection for the year, so look out for that.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's great. I'm sorry I took you off your track there with the website, but let's keep going. There's women's clothing, too?</p>
<p>Andres:	Yes, so actually now in the summer, we came out with the first women's collection. We offered some great ... we're starting to venture deep into a more cut-and-sew world, which is more specific into what we wanted to do, diving deeper into different materials, as I was mentioning. We also have a ladies' jacket that's very fashionable. It's great for a casual night out or a nice dinner, as well. Everything is based around comfort and quality. I'm sure you'll be able to find something there. We have some hats for ladies, some joggers that are great for a nice workout. We have a lot of different things.</p>
<p>Romy:	How did you begin studying price points?</p>
<p>Andres:	We actually have a few brands that we've looked at as we've started growing, just because we wanted to learn from those who have done it already. Not only that, but just decide what our area of competition is as we're venturing into this world, and just looking around to see what's out there, and just learning from the business, like I said, learning from founders of companies that have already done it. We try to learn the best from each one. Not only that, but listen to what they've done already, and learn from their mistakes to try to avoid it, and to try to take the best path. As we've gone on looking to the brands and see who has similar items, we decided to set a price point somewhere between. But even though there's always that temptation of pricing your products a bit higher because the pricier they are, or the more expensive they are, not only the more profit we get but the more we can help out.</p>
<p>	But we also wanted to model the brand after something that was affordable for everyone because growing up we always some brands that we looked up to, that we really liked, but unfortunately, at times they were too expensive for us to be able to get anything, just because maybe we weren't making our money, and we had to ask our parents for it, or even when we did start making money, it was something that just wasn't financially available for us. What we decided to do was to set a price point that was affordable for everyone while we could still grab a little bit to be able to help the cause side of it, and be able to take out enough to be able to keep the company growing, as well. It's just a constant juggling of being able to get the brand to the correct price point so that the customers are satisfied, and it still seems very attractive to them, while still having our goals in mind, if that makes any sense.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, it's hard. Retail is tricky sometimes in fashion, but it's great where you guys are priced. It's inviting. You don't want to be ... especially when you have a cause ... you've got to mark it up enough to continue with your cause, and have the math work for your business so you can keep your doors open. But that's great, you guys are a beautiful shop. We're excited to see what happens here in the future. What's your growth plans? Let's kind of dream big with what you know at this moment, your truth is a moment.</p>
<p>Andres:	We're actually very happy about how far the brand has come...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-palmeramia-95]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2512</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/18decd31-0e19-4617-bea7-22e3a83d84a3/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2018 00:07:22 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/303e6c8f-1ddc-48cc-b230-2dd97d40e123/95palmeramia-1.mp3" length="48669152" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>PalmEraMia Thanks for tuning in for this great episode on a social enterprise out of Miami! Our guest is Andres Restrepo, one of the founders of PalmEraMia, which is a fashion design company for athletic wear. Through their product sales, they support clean water efforts in Colombia. We learn why they chose Colombia and how…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Kathleen Kelly Janus – Stanford, Book #93</title><itunes:title>S3: Kathleen Kelly Janus – Stanford, Book #93</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Kathleen Kelly Janus</h2>
<p>Back for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Kathleen Kelly Janus is our guest discussing her new book, Social Startup Success, How the Best Nonprofits Launch, Scale Up and Make a Difference. Kathleen is an award-winning social entrepreneur, lawyer, and lecturer at Stanford University, where she teaches social entrepreneurship.  And, as usual, we have a great Detroit artist playing a full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned.</p>
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			<p><p>Hello there, this is Romy back for another episode on the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have author, Kathleen Kelly Janus, as our guest discussing her new book, Social Startup Success, How the Best Nonprofits Launch, Scale Up and Make a Difference. Kathleen is an award-winning social entrepreneur, lawyer, and lecturer at Stanford University, where she teaches social entrepreneurship. And, as usual, we have a great Detroit artist playing a full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned.<br />
Before we get rolling down the lane with good advice from Kathleen, let’s see what Natalie has come up with for our Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
 I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.<br />
Since this episode talks about Non-profits not operating on survival mode, I started thinking about what survival mode really means and I my mind drifted to cool animal survival instincts.<br />
Survival instincts are inherent to all creatures great and small.  I often wonder how animals survive natural disasters such as wildfires and tornados.  I think of the birds being whipped around by such high winds and wonder if they get swooped up in the turbulence or soar higher.<br />
 According to TuftsNow.com, birds can ride out intense storms by taking advantage of microhabitats. Gale force winds can knock even the sturdiest of tv weatherman off their gait, but birds can seek shelter on the lee side of trees or deep inside thick hedges.  The decrease in wind speed in these microhabitats can be huge, and as long as they stay put, they are not actually buffeted much by the wind. Now they do need to find food to last out the storms.  There are some reports of birds increasing foraging activity as a storm approaches, which indicate some birds can detect subtle changes in air pressure, which can indicate an approaching storm.  When this happens, they immediately try to get as much food as possible. The more fat a bird has, the better chance it has of surviving and riding out a long-standing storm.<br />
So let’s join up with Romy and today’s guest to learn more about nonprofits not operating on survival mode.<br />
Love it, love it, love it. Thanks, Natalie!<br />
Alrighty, I had the opportunity to talk with Kathleen while she was in...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Kathleen Kelly Janus</h2>
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			<p><p>Hello there, this is Romy back for another episode on the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have author, Kathleen Kelly Janus, as our guest discussing her new book, Social Startup Success, How the Best Nonprofits Launch, Scale Up and Make a Difference. Kathleen is an award-winning social entrepreneur, lawyer, and lecturer at Stanford University, where she teaches social entrepreneurship. And, as usual, we have a great Detroit artist playing a full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned.<br />
Before we get rolling down the lane with good advice from Kathleen, let’s see what Natalie has come up with for our Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
 I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you this episode’s Fun Fuel.<br />
Since this episode talks about Non-profits not operating on survival mode, I started thinking about what survival mode really means and I my mind drifted to cool animal survival instincts.<br />
Survival instincts are inherent to all creatures great and small.  I often wonder how animals survive natural disasters such as wildfires and tornados.  I think of the birds being whipped around by such high winds and wonder if they get swooped up in the turbulence or soar higher.<br />
 According to TuftsNow.com, birds can ride out intense storms by taking advantage of microhabitats. Gale force winds can knock even the sturdiest of tv weatherman off their gait, but birds can seek shelter on the lee side of trees or deep inside thick hedges.  The decrease in wind speed in these microhabitats can be huge, and as long as they stay put, they are not actually buffeted much by the wind. Now they do need to find food to last out the storms.  There are some reports of birds increasing foraging activity as a storm approaches, which indicate some birds can detect subtle changes in air pressure, which can indicate an approaching storm.  When this happens, they immediately try to get as much food as possible. The more fat a bird has, the better chance it has of surviving and riding out a long-standing storm.<br />
So let’s join up with Romy and today’s guest to learn more about nonprofits not operating on survival mode.<br />
Love it, love it, love it. Thanks, Natalie!<br />
Alrighty, I had the opportunity to talk with Kathleen while she was in San Francisco preparing for her book launch. I mentioned earlier that Kathleen is a lecturer at Stanford, but she is also a co-founder of Spark among other human rights organizations. She informally advises a variety of non-profits and social entrepreneurs in San Francisco and more globally. Let’s drop in on our conversation and learn more about Kathleen and her great new book.<br />
Romy:	What prompted you to start to write a book on how to scale?</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Well, this is a really critical question, as you know, Romy, and I think that it can be a controversial word, like a four-letter word, in the nonprofit sector and the for-profit sector because I think a lot of people would say that scale isn't necessarily a good thing for a number of reasons. Maybe we don't want big organizations. Maybe we want a lot of organizations working together. Maybe we want more Mom and Pop organizations that communities know best how to solve the problems of individual communities and scaling aren't necessarily going to be effective. Something that works in San Francisco isn't necessarily going to work in the middle of Iowa.</p>
<p>	All of that true, and, also, we do have so many organizations that have really, really great ideas to scale and to grow, to expand their impact, and so the problem is that of the 300,000 nonprofits in the United States, 2/3 of them are $500,000 and below in revenue, constantly struggling to make the next payroll, when what they really should be focused on is making impact.</p>
<p>	I wrote this book because I was really curious, who are the organizations that are getting over this revenue hump? What are the ones that are getting to, say, around two million dollars, which I define in the book as getting to a level of sustainability, where you're not constantly teetering on the brinks of collapse as an organization? I got to interview over 100 of the top performing nonprofits in the United States in order to try and get to the bottom of that question. Those are the findings that I feature in my new book Social Startup Success.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow. Well, I'm glad you just hit that head on because I'm delighted with the idea of scale, just for all the reasons you said, and there's just efficiency as partnerships can happen in the ecosystem when you've got successful organizations instead of those that are, I think you said in your introduction, spending more energy trying to just stay alive than delivering their social mission. I think we bump into them here in the Midwest in the Detroit area left and right and the donor fatigue and the staff fatigue is so high, they are about to collapse. I was delighted when I saw the word scale because I don't know, I'm sort of a practical, in-the-weeds gal at the street level, and we see the reality of what's going on.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Absolutely. A scale doesn't have to mean that you're a 50-million-dollar organization in the nonprofit sector. It's interesting. </p>
<p>Kathleen:	In fact, only 140 nonprofits that were started since 1970 have actually sailed past 50 million dollars, and those are the big organizations that we think of, like Teach for America, and those organizations are doing important work, but the reality is that the vast majority of organizations will never get to that level of scale, so when we talk about scale, I'm not talking about scaling past millions and millions of dollars of revenue. I'm really talking about how do we get organizations to a level of sustainability.</p>
<p>Romy:	Keeping the doors open. The first rule of sustainability.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:	First rule.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	That's basic.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's step back to our listeners and talk about your role right now with Stanford and your history with Spark. Many of our listeners may not be familiar with that. Would you mind taking us on a little tour of your work life and your history there?</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Absolutely. Well, I think, like most people, I am an accidental social entrepreneur. I didn't intend to go out and start a nonprofit. I always felt passionate about giving back to causes that I cared about, so when I started working as a corporate lawyer in San Francisco, I wanted to get involved in nonprofits and didn't find one that was really engaging and harnessing the spirit of young people, and so we started Spark as a way to engage young professionals, millennials, in new forms of philanthropy to support gender equality issues, so at that point, I was spending my days billing corporate legal hours and spending my nights making name tags and guest lists and sending out grant reports and working on building this nonprofit, Spark.</p>
<p>	That was really, for me, the first opportunity where I felt like I could be an activist and claim that and be a leader in the social justice movement even though I was a young professional in the corporate sector, too, and I think that's one of the things that's so exciting about being alive today is that our work, giving back, doesn't have to be relegated to after five when we leave the office, that there is so much more opportunity to be involved in social causes, whether you're working at Goldman Sachs or in a law firm or for a nonprofit or a social enterprise.</p>
<p>	I started teaching at Stanford as a way to evangelize that message. I quit my job as a corporate lawyer and I started working in human rights work and social entrepreneurship. In my class, I often get students who ask me, "Should I go work for a nonprofit, or should I go make some money and then give back later?" It turns out that it doesn't have to be an either/or thing, that you can give back no matter whether you're 25 years old or you're a 65-year-old millionaire, that there are opportunities to give every space in between. That's one of the issues that I've become most passionate about is I've written Social Startup Success just thinking about how can we all have tools to be able to be more effective with the resources that we're spending on social causes so that we can be more efficient at solving these really pressing social problems, like global poverty and climate change. The clock is ticking on these issues, and we need to be effective and efficient if we want to make a dent.</p>
<p>Romy:	I love this idea that you're talking about here, that the book has launched from this student question. We get that a lot. We have students from around the globe reaching out to us asking those same questions because we're in this space here. I often get the sub or the follow-up question of, "Well, what if I wanna work for this company, but they don't have these types of programs? How am I gonna feel?" My opportunity is to say, it's always, "Well, here's your opportunity to start something and put something in place that will be a legacy for those that follow behind you. It's not always a what can you do for me and is your company gonna fit my giving pattern. It's an opportunity for you to create a way to give that's unique to you because there's probably someone else that will follow you that will enjoy your-"</p>
<p>Romy:	... There's probably someone else that will follow you, that will enjoy your path making if you will.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Yes, I love that Romy. You know, companies have no choice but to institute social cause programs into their work. The evidence shows that 85% of millennials specifically accept a job at a company because of their work in X cause. This is really important data when you're looking at some of the turnover at major tech companies for example. The average tenure is a year and a half.</p>
<p>Romy:	Ooh.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	And this is really, really expensive for companies, to lose employees. So if you can generate loyalty by starting social cause programs, opportunities to volunteer, to give a certain number of your hours to non-profit work, to do donation drives. Whatever your program might be, you're ultimately going to have a happier workforce, and a much more effective company too.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Before we stray off down another path, I want to get back to your great book here. As we mentioned I'm most of the way through it, and thanks for sharing it with me ahead of time. I just love so many of the basic functional things you talk about in the book, and you talk about you have this feeling in your book, in your writing of like, "It's okay to fail a little bit. It's okay to test. It's okay to experiment." Let's talk a little bit about that, related to some of your findings when you were out talking to all these non-profits that have done things well.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Well, testing is critical, and something that non-profits and for-profits can all learn from. I think that we have, we now live in an age where human-centered design has become more common in the workplace, this is just this idea of using customer-facing mechanisms to test out prototypes in sort of low-cost ways, that you can then perfect before you scale. One of the most interesting findings from all of my interviews is that non-profits are doing this kind of testing too in small ways. For non-profits, it's really critical, particularly in the early stages of development because they don't necessarily have a lot of resources. Sadly there's not a lot of seed funding for social enterprises.</p>
<p>	This testing process becomes a way to both try and figure out what kind of program is going to work, to develop a really close relationship with your end users, your customers, your beneficiaries. And also, to develop the data so that when you go out and raise money for your cause, you can say, "Look, this is working and I have some impact to show for it." For example, ... And it doesn't have to be really expensive, or fancy. An example that I talk about is Beth Schmidt, who founded Wishbone, was a teacher in a low-income school and realized that her students weren't getting the same kind of opportunities that so many of their more privileged counterparts were getting to follow their dreams during the summer.</p>
<p>	She assigned them an essay to talk about their passions, she went to a photocopy machine, she photocopied some of the top papers in the class, and she sent them off to her families and friends. She thought, "What if I could get people to pay for low-income students to follow their dreams?" Her family and friends came back with thousands of dollars to fund these kids for art camp, and film fellowships during the summer. Then she was able to go back to those donors and tell them about the stories of these kids, and the impact that these summer experiences had, had on their lives.</p>
<p>	It was then that she realized, "Okay look, I have this idea. This is really, it's really impactful for the donors, it's really impactful for the students for all of these reasons," and she was able to go out and raise a whole bunch of money because she had done this low-cost prototype in the start. This is an example of what that kind of testing process might look like for an organization. That again, it doesn't have to be expensive, and it's critical because it develops this sense of being okay with understanding when things fail. But that's another part of the testing process that we are not so comfortable within the non-profit sector because we have to go out and raise money. There's not a lot of incentive to talk about where we're failing, and yet no one's going to be effective in the long run if they're not able to acknowledge not only what's working, but what's not working.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right. No one's going to have the answers right out of the gate.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	No, no. And what's interesting is that this testing process becomes embedded within the DNA of the organization as they grow. It enables them to constantly be improving as they grow and to scale.</p>
<p>Romy:	You know, you touched on something that is one of my, I'll call it nerve points. I'll probably have to come up with a better word for that. But, when ... Which I love you hit on this. There's that concept testing that's just talking about the theory of what you want to do, and then there's that testing where you're really trying something and asking for funding for it.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	There's something about putting money down on it, or some say, "Skin of the game," or I guess legal terms, you're putting consideration down on the deal, meaning that you're really into it. We do have some of the folks that come to us saying, "Well I've been testing this," and our auto response is, "How have you been testing this? Have customers or donors been giving you money or consideration for it, or are you talking to them about it? Cause those are two different results." Did you find any of that in your studies?</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Well absolutely. I mean, it has to be about having that really close relationship, both before and after the consideration happens, right?</p>
<p>Romy:	Mm-hmm (affirmative).</p>
<p>Kathleen:	So it's not only about testing with people, but it's involving them in every step of the process. Are you engaging them to develop the idea in the first place? And this is where a lot of organizations go wrong, because frankly a lot of social enterprises are coming out of big university pitch competitions, where students are encouraged to come up with a great idea for an organization, when they don't necessarily have connections or lived experience with the issue that they're trying to solve. Not everybody is going to have list experience, and that's fine. If you haven't been homeless, it doesn't mean that you aren't equipped to try and solve the problem of homelessness. But, you better have some interaction with homeless people.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right?</p>
<p>Kathleen:	You're building a program to solve their problem.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	That's not only true when you're providing services, but it's true even in the development process, even in those early stages of getting the program up and running.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yes, yes. And I feel those same principles apply to either customer acquisition, or donor acquisition, or both. There's still a similar process.</p>
<p>Kathleen:	Absolutely, absolutely. And being honest, and creating those honest relationships. So getting back to fundraising, I mean some of the best funders that I talk to will ask an organization that comes in the door, "What have you failed at? What's not working?" As a proxy for understanding whether they are really being honest with themselves, and testing in a way that is meaningful.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, gosh. That's interesting. I noticed this beautiful encouragement test and experiment in your book. Moving to some of the things that, that data produces, it produces both, of course, you mention data that you can share, and the storytelling. How do you find Kathleen, that the data helps give them accountability or credibility, integrity? Will you talk about how that helps an organization?</p>
<p>Kathleen Janus:	How we're collecting data to test whether what we were doing is actually having an impact. So, interestingly, in the survey that I conducted of 250 social entrepreneurs around the country, the organizations that tended to scale more quickly said that they began measuring their impact from the start.</p>
<p>	This is critical, whether you're a...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-kathleen-kelly-janus-stanford-book-93]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2493</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/88753c0a-ef9b-42ac-a5e1-c88c85ec950a/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 01:58:38 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/53cd2a80-02f7-458a-b1f0-b1d2ed822773/93kathleenkellyjanus.mp3" length="55210784" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Kathleen Kelly Janus Back for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Kathleen Kelly Janus is our guest discussing her new book, Social Startup Success, How the Best Nonprofits Launch, Scale Up and Make a Difference. Kathleen is an award-winning social entrepreneur, lawyer, and lecturer at Stanford University, where she teaches social entrepreneurship.  And,…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017 – PART TWO #92</title><itunes:title>S3: Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017 – PART TWO #92</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Our Common Future Conference &#8211; Oct. 27, 2017  Part Two</h2>
<p>Our Common Future conference was held in Detroit, Michigan at the end of October 2017. We have a Part One and a Part Two to give you the top ten.  We will interview several guest speakers that help shape our community. They give us some insight into the work that they do to empower entrepreneurship and Impact Investing.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome Back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. On this episode, we continue with part two of the Our Common Futures conference. On this episode, Jennifer and Natalie, catch up with conference attendees Melanie Audette with the Mission Investors Exchange, Brenda Hunt with the Battle Creek Community Foundation, Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, David Contorer with Hebrew Free Loans, and Jason Paulateer with PNC Bank and Foundation.<br />
To kick of Part Two, Jennifer sits down with Melanie Audette of the Mission Investors Exchange…..</p>
<p>Jennifer:	What I'd like to start off today, during our talk is to have you tell me a little bit about yourself and your organization and then we'll go from there.</p>
<p>Melanie:	Well, I'm the Senior Vice President at Mission Investor's Exchange. I am based in Seattle and Mission Investor's Exchange is a 12 year old organization with offices in New York and San Francisco and then we have some staff in Seattle, but we're a very small but mighty team that has a membership consisting of mainly foundations of all types and sizes across the US who are either building or expanding an impact investing program. And we started out as the PRI Makers Network 12 years ago, when foundations were really focused mainly on doing program-related investments, and about five years ago we merged with The More Formation Campaign, which was a campaign to encourage foundations to devote two percent of their endowments to invest for a mission.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	I love that. So here at the conference so far, what are your impressions then of how it works and how it applies to your mission through Mission Investor's Exchange?</p>
<p>Melanie:	Well the independent sector conference as well as the Council of Michigan Foundation's Conference, where we are today, represents two things for me specifically. First, the independent sector has a very much more broad attendance and participation than a lot of the conferences that we attend and that includes the foundations who are at the heart of our network, but also those who play a very important role in the ecosystem around impact investing. And that includes non-profit organizations who oftentimes have social entrepreneurial goals and projects and so, therefore can be investees of impact investment's five foundations as well as those who support them in the field, so investment advisors, philanthropic advisors, attorneys, and accountants. All of those participants really play an incredibly important part helping foundations to identify who investees can be and to be able to do the work efficiently and within the law and correctly and responsibly.</p>
<p>	The second part is the Council of Michigan Foundations, Mission Investor's Exchange has had a five-year partnership with CMF, and we've worked together over the years to provide education first for those foundations who are interested in learning about impact investing. Through this partnership, Michigan has become the model, really for the whole country informing what's now an infrastructure within that association to help foundations not only to learn about impact investing, but to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Our Common Future Conference &#8211; Oct. 27, 2017  Part Two</h2>
<p>Our Common Future conference was held in Detroit, Michigan at the end of October 2017. We have a Part One and a Part Two to give you the top ten.  We will interview several guest speakers that help shape our community. They give us some insight into the work that they do to empower entrepreneurship and Impact Investing.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome Back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. On this episode, we continue with part two of the Our Common Futures conference. On this episode, Jennifer and Natalie, catch up with conference attendees Melanie Audette with the Mission Investors Exchange, Brenda Hunt with the Battle Creek Community Foundation, Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, David Contorer with Hebrew Free Loans, and Jason Paulateer with PNC Bank and Foundation.<br />
To kick of Part Two, Jennifer sits down with Melanie Audette of the Mission Investors Exchange…..</p>
<p>Jennifer:	What I'd like to start off today, during our talk is to have you tell me a little bit about yourself and your organization and then we'll go from there.</p>
<p>Melanie:	Well, I'm the Senior Vice President at Mission Investor's Exchange. I am based in Seattle and Mission Investor's Exchange is a 12 year old organization with offices in New York and San Francisco and then we have some staff in Seattle, but we're a very small but mighty team that has a membership consisting of mainly foundations of all types and sizes across the US who are either building or expanding an impact investing program. And we started out as the PRI Makers Network 12 years ago, when foundations were really focused mainly on doing program-related investments, and about five years ago we merged with The More Formation Campaign, which was a campaign to encourage foundations to devote two percent of their endowments to invest for a mission.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	I love that. So here at the conference so far, what are your impressions then of how it works and how it applies to your mission through Mission Investor's Exchange?</p>
<p>Melanie:	Well the independent sector conference as well as the Council of Michigan Foundation's Conference, where we are today, represents two things for me specifically. First, the independent sector has a very much more broad attendance and participation than a lot of the conferences that we attend and that includes the foundations who are at the heart of our network, but also those who play a very important role in the ecosystem around impact investing. And that includes non-profit organizations who oftentimes have social entrepreneurial goals and projects and so, therefore can be investees of impact investment's five foundations as well as those who support them in the field, so investment advisors, philanthropic advisors, attorneys, and accountants. All of those participants really play an incredibly important part helping foundations to identify who investees can be and to be able to do the work efficiently and within the law and correctly and responsibly.</p>
<p>	The second part is the Council of Michigan Foundations, Mission Investor's Exchange has had a five-year partnership with CMF, and we've worked together over the years to provide education first for those foundations who are interested in learning about impact investing. Through this partnership, Michigan has become the model, really for the whole country informing what's now an infrastructure within that association to help foundations not only to learn about impact investing, but to actually build and identify investment opportunities, create a pipeline for investments, support them in that work and now this year, they've hired an Executive in Residence at CMF to help on a local and regional level, their membership to do this.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	So understanding that you're drawing from a large group with a lot of people here from a lot of different areas all across the globe, what do you feel has been the highlight of the conference so far for you?</p>
<p>Melanie:	Well, one of the highlights for me, because I was a speaker was seeing a room that was absolutely packed full of people who are interested in mission investing or impact investing and we've found that recently, that there is an incredible amount of interest, but what's most gratifying is to see the participants in the audience really respond to the examples of this work taking place in real life and we had panelists in our break out session, who helped people to understand, that even as a small foundation you can be responsive to the community, through different types of financial tools like alone, that really is a more appropriate use of capital for a particular situation, or an investment in a four concept business that has a mission, in this case it was Green Infrastructure that really fits our philanthropic mission as well, but it's a four profit investment that is also a real possibility for foundations to aline more of their capital with their mission.</p>
<p>	Second, and this was really personally gratifying as well, I got to see Mo Rocca, and Mo Rocca is one of my heroes. He was moderating a session yesterday, and he has a kids show on CBS on Saturday mornings that my husband and I watch and it's called Innovation Nation.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	Nice.</p>
<p>Melanie:	And he did an incredible job talking to Gary Wozniak, Amy Peterson, and Davita Davison yesterday on plenary stage. These three social entrepreneurs were so inspiring. Davita Davison actually brought tears to my eyes, talking about her work in the food space and one of the quotes I loved from Davina yesterday was, she was talking about the people that she's in a sense mentoring and she said "I encourage them to run for the United States of America, for the President of the United States of America". And to me, a statement like that means that with leadership like this in communities, she is helping people to understand that anything is possible and our session, you know Impact Investing, The Art of the Possible, was really personified on that plenary stage yesterday by those speakers.</p>
<p>Jennifer:<br />
	What are you gonna take back to Mission Investor's Exchange from this conference? And then, in turn, share with the world? What are your plans?</p>
<p>Melanie:	You know, it sounds funny but, at these conferences, there are oftentimes a lot of ... the sponsors are the ...</p>
<p>Jennifer:	The exhibitions?</p>
<p>Melanie:	The exhibitions.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	Yep.</p>
<p>Melanie:	So, a lot of times people just walk through the exhibitions, and you know that can be frustrating sometimes for the exhibitors, but I find that in talking with the exhibitors, I really learn a lot, but also find things to bring back and for this conference and this set of exhibitors, which is really excellent, I've found several things. One is the Fetzer Institute. The Fetzer Institute is an organization that is focused on, now in this environment, which is a little bit polarized, you know talking about spiritual healing.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Melanie:	And this reconnected me with some work of Parker Palmer who is also another hero of mine and it reminded me that for our conference in May in Chicago next year, that some things to focus on include some of that racial and spiritual healing. Also, there was a group out of the booth in Chicago. There was an NBA program, a weekend program with full scholarships and for those in the non-profit sector who were thinking about learning more and engaging more in the impact investing space, that's an enormous opportunity to go from maybe having a social work background or a liberal arts background, which a lot of non-profit executives have, to having that opportunity that's funded by a foundation to have a full scholarship for a Saturday weekend program in Chicago. I thought that was amazing.</p>
<p>	And finally, the artwork. There's an artist that's collating the ideas, the inspiration from the community in order to create a community artwork here at the conference and I'm excited to see that come to fruition and also look at the opportunities for engaging with the arts community next year. So these are really practical things that I've brought back from the conference, but they're really valuable. It's a part of the value that I get from attending a conference here.</p>
<p>Jennifer:	And I'm in 100 percent agreement with you when you talk about art and what art can do and talking about being polarized in multiple different areas right now. Art can heal. Art can build bridges, and by being able to incorporate that into your conference next year, I know it's an amazing takeaway. I think that it's gonna be very impactful for the attendees and it will help heal and build those bridges. That's great.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jennifer and Melanie, for your parting thoughts on how very important community art can be along with Melanie’s note on the great exhibitors. Next up, Natalie catches up with Brenda Hunt, CEO of the Battle Creek Community Foundation.  We jump into the conversation just as Brenda begins to discuss how much all of the different sectors of funders intersect, especially at this conference.<br />
Brenda Hunt:<br />
Yeah, I think the deeper we get in, the more we all crisscross and the more we're all alike. We're more alike than different, even in the sectors. We should borrow, and pick and choose from each other. And we should use for profits when it makes most sense, and create for profits when it makes most sense for the situation and use nonprofits more sparingly would be more thought pattern.</p>
<p>Natalie:	You make a really good point about identifying the landscape with everybody working together in this space. Can you talk a little bit about how identifying the landscape is really important when it comes to impact investing?</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	Absolutely. We kind of rushed in and wanted to do something. I think a lot of people are rushing in trying to figure out what it is they should do after they decide they wanna do something. And we've done a few things now and more to come. But before I can say to the board, this is where we need to be in what we all call this space, this space of impact investing or however anybody chooses to frame it up, I think you need to learn about what else is taking place in our community in what I call a community capital stack. I believe those are your terms.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Everyone's got their own terms, don't you think? They all mean the same. Essentially identify who the players are, who's got the money, and who needs to deploy it and get off the couch, right?</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	Yeah. Exactly. One of the pieces as we get into looking at what type of funding, what type of investment, what type of loans, what type of investors you have in a community, that are investing in your community, then perhaps it becomes more clear of what our role could or should be. And in that time and in that span as you're probably doing some things, you're also a catalyst. So when we look at our staff, we can identify what we thought we're probably already missing, and when we have local people of investor quality, they're not investing locally in our community from a business sense of the word.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right. It's that basis start of a philanthropic heart, but you have that investor mentality where this space of impact investing lives in that you are talking about. For our listeners out there, Brenda and her whole entire taskforce in my opinion, in our whole company's opinion, are just courageous thought leaders on all of this. They are out there, not only discussing about what things are going on, but really they're the ones that are actually taking action and really making things happen. So I am excited for you, Brenda, and your task force. You're the doers. You're the doers.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	Thanks. I checked in with the executive committee, and they agree also. I think one of the most exciting pieces that we are waiting to see how it turns out right now is a new manufacturing startup, a food business, on the north end of our community. It's in a place that was my grocery store when I first moved to town. It's been gone for a long time. We took a look at what area we might wanna do impact investing there, and then had you folks do the research on that, and then we said, "Not now," and delivered some very constructive messages in a whole bunch of ways.</p>
<p>	Then came the calls from out of town from some other folks that had looked at investing, and there's some funds, and looked at putting some money in there. I look very forward to our future discussions of how those funds, our local investment, and some private investors might take this to the next phase. What's most important is that the leverage in this situation has brought some people in the food industry business to the table, which we're not in the food industry business. But we are the eyes and ears of the community. So there's some potential collaborations here. So, we'll just see how that turns out.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right. I think it's very, very exciting. Like I said, you have taken the forefront lead, the pioneering piece of it. I think that's just incredible. So let's get back to the conference. What has been a highlight for you attending this? Has anything really spoken to you that you're really excited to share?</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	The change that's taking place you know? We have folks at this conference who are also what we would used to call them, grant seekers. Now, they're investees. They're entities, nonprofit and for-profit that we would invest in. That opens up the whole toolkit to not just grants and loans, but other types of investments that you can do through an intermediary or directly. So you can see that and feel that across here. These conferences used to be called Grant Makers and Grant Seekers, and that was never a term that necessarily resonated with me previously. But you can feel the turn. I think the fact that the impact investing sessions are packed, and there's lines out the doors, that and the whole area around healing of racism are the two pieces that I have seen from this conference that really resonate where the interests are a bit overwhelming with people wanting to do something right and good.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	One is when those two items about this conference come together, then I think it's very important that we make sure that our intentions of reaching the populations that need to be reached, that need to be brought along, that need to have jobs and equality of life, and the creation of wealth, not wealthy, wealth, for equality of life that we all think that each citizen has the opportunity for and should have, that we make sure we're doing that and that we don't miss that in our work as we go forward.</p>
<p>	So, I'm still employed. I'm on my way back there so stay tuned. Battle Creek Community Foundation, best way probably is Brenda@bccfoundation.org. I will always pick up the phone, 269-962-2181. And I'm always willing to talk, because this is such an emerging area, and I don't have the answers. I've had a lot of things that we've tried. I'm always glad to share what we've tried and what we're doing.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Well, that's wonderful. And as you know, pioneering is not comfortable.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	No, but it sure is fun.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Absolutely.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	If we didn't have pioneering, we'd have nothing.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	In our country, and in our history, and in our world, and that's I feel the field is right now, too.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right. Well, listeners, it's just be an absolute privilege to be here with Brenda, and I'm so excited that Brenda you've taken the time to share this with us. So thank you so much.</p>
<p>Brenda Hunt:	And thank you for how you shape this work and support us. We appreciate it.</p>
<p>Natalie:	All right. Thank you.</p>
<p>There is that ‘pioneering’ discussion. It seems to me that the pioneering work of many in the field is rising the tide for all of us. Really great. Natalie and I had a good laugh one day when one of us blurted out ‘pioneering is not comfortable,’ and it stuck, we laughed both at the simplicity and revelation of those few words all at once. But, I digress. Let’s jump back to Natalie as she sits down with Amy Peterson from Rebel Nell.<br />
Natalie:	I am delighted to be here with our podcast regular, Amy Peterson, from Rebel Nell. She's been doing some speaking here. Hi to you, Amy.</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	Hi, Natalie. I'm so excited to be here and always love the podcast that you guys are doing.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Super fun. Well, how has the conference been going for you this week? I know you've spoken quite a few times and today's the last day. How's it been going for you?</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	This is actually a fascinating conference to be a part of, and I'm really honored to be here and to have the opportunity to speak and share our story and to be in a room full of foundations, to pick their brains and navigate these waters and understand what they're thinking about when they make investments I think has helped me understand how to maybe pitch my business better or to figure out who best to target when asking instead of spinning your wheels and wasting all this time. Really narrowing your focus and figuring out who is the best fit for you, and I think you'll have yourself a lot of time and energy when you do that.</p>
<p>Natalie:	That is true. That is one thing that's very unique about this conference where they've pooled together pretty much all the players, in a way, at this conference. It is neat to be in front of everyone and talking and learning about everything in terms of impact investing.</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	Absolutely. The dialogue around impact investing is fascinating, too. What I was incredibly optimistic about is it seems like there's more and more foundations who want to do it and they just can't quite figure out how. But there's enough that are the pioneers in this space that are saying, "Hey, we'll teach you, or we'll find a way to do it." That was, as a social entrepreneur, really encouraging to hear.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right. You're right, you've had experience with impact investing. How has that experience helped and shaped you so far?</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	Yeah. I think we also at Rebel Nell are also early in this space of understanding what it is like to receive impact investing and what it takes to court investors. On more one of those points where you're in the midst of it, you think it's so challenging to do the due diligence and get your ducks in a row. You're like, "God, how many more numbers do they want from me?" In hindsight, that's so valuable as a business owner to understand why that's important. To have companies like Gingras Global who are there to really provide those supportive services and wraparound services to make sure that we are a tight, neat package when we are put in front of investors and knowing and hearing that here at the conference of how they so appreciate that just goes to show, again, how incredible you guys are in what you do.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Thank you.</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	Yes, it's been an interesting ride to receive some impact investing, but all the grunt work behind it's been really valuable.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Well, yeah, I think that's true. There's a lot of grunt work.</p>
<p>Amy Peterson:	A lot of grunt work. A lot.</p>
<p>Natalie:	We're not...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-common-future-conference-oct-27-2017-part-two-92]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2447</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f2af36d0-23da-4722-b7b5-e653fb7c2759/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 02:01:47 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b90f86bc-bc16-4fa8-aa27-bc49d453181a/92conferencepart2.mp3" length="56408864" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017  Part Two Our Common Future conference was held in Detroit, Michigan at the end of October 2017. We have a Part One and a Part Two to give you the top ten.  We will interview several guest speakers that help shape our community. They give us some…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017 – PART ONE #91</title><itunes:title>S3: Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017 – PART ONE #91</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Our Common Future Conference &#8211; Oct. 27, 2017  Part One</h2>
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			<p><p>Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have something very special for you on this episode. Our Bonfires team was invited to podcast from the Our Common Futures conference which was held in Detroit at the end of October 2017.  I was not able to attend but two of our very experienced colleagues, Jennifer Davis-Papa and Natalie Hazen, caught up with some very high profile attendees and speakers at the conference.  They came back with so many great discussions that we had to do a Part 1 and a Part 2 to give you the top ten.<br />
So, on Part 1, you will hear interviews with Dan Cardinali, President, and CEO of Independent Sector, Joyce Cade-Hitchye from the organization, Of Impact, Angela Barbash from the financial firm, Revalue Aaron Seybert of Kresge, and Angela Rogensues of the non-profit, Playworks.<br />
Let’s get started with Dan Cardinelli of Independent Sector. He begins by answering Natalie with some organization history.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Well, first of all, Independent Sector is a 38-year-old organization that is founded with two very simple principles; that our goal is to bring the sector, the whole sector together. Grant seeking, foundations, corporate foundations, and ... Excuse me. Can I start that again?</p>
<p>Natalie:	Mm-hmm.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Independent Sector was founded 38 years ago with two very simple purposes; to bring the sector together, sector spanning, so we have grant seeking organizations, nonprofits, and grant-making organizations like philanthropy and corporate foundations.</p>
<p>	The goal of this gathering is for the community to come together in a non-transactional way. Not to cut deals, but to collectively take stock in what's going well and what's not, and how we as a sector can come together, catalyze activity, and be part of accelerating social change. That's what Independent Sector does.</p>
<p>	And then we learn from that conversation, and we translate that into our public policy work. Primarily in Washington, but increasingly we partner with state organizations to make sure we're aligned with the policies that are really going to strengthen the sector.</p>
<p>	Every year we gather, historically every year we gather the sector together in this vital meeting ground, this conference. We realize collaboration is the way of the future. Early on as were designing for this, we said, "Look, who are the strongest sector spanning organizations we can partner with." The Council of Michigan Foundations is one of the strongest state level, regional association working in philanthropy. The Michigan Nonprofit Association is a similar; it's one of the strongest nonprofit association.</p>
<p>	It made perfect sense to say, "Hey! Let's put our heads together, and let's design together." And that's what we did. It's been a phenomenal experience.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Wow. That's fantastic. I like how you're getting everybody together in the sandbox to play well together, in essence.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Right. Well, the goal I think is playing well together. I think also means struggling to do what we hope happens here. Which is to push...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Our Common Future Conference &#8211; Oct. 27, 2017  Part One</h2>
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			<p><p>Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have something very special for you on this episode. Our Bonfires team was invited to podcast from the Our Common Futures conference which was held in Detroit at the end of October 2017.  I was not able to attend but two of our very experienced colleagues, Jennifer Davis-Papa and Natalie Hazen, caught up with some very high profile attendees and speakers at the conference.  They came back with so many great discussions that we had to do a Part 1 and a Part 2 to give you the top ten.<br />
So, on Part 1, you will hear interviews with Dan Cardinali, President, and CEO of Independent Sector, Joyce Cade-Hitchye from the organization, Of Impact, Angela Barbash from the financial firm, Revalue Aaron Seybert of Kresge, and Angela Rogensues of the non-profit, Playworks.<br />
Let’s get started with Dan Cardinelli of Independent Sector. He begins by answering Natalie with some organization history.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Well, first of all, Independent Sector is a 38-year-old organization that is founded with two very simple principles; that our goal is to bring the sector, the whole sector together. Grant seeking, foundations, corporate foundations, and ... Excuse me. Can I start that again?</p>
<p>Natalie:	Mm-hmm.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Independent Sector was founded 38 years ago with two very simple purposes; to bring the sector together, sector spanning, so we have grant seeking organizations, nonprofits, and grant-making organizations like philanthropy and corporate foundations.</p>
<p>	The goal of this gathering is for the community to come together in a non-transactional way. Not to cut deals, but to collectively take stock in what's going well and what's not, and how we as a sector can come together, catalyze activity, and be part of accelerating social change. That's what Independent Sector does.</p>
<p>	And then we learn from that conversation, and we translate that into our public policy work. Primarily in Washington, but increasingly we partner with state organizations to make sure we're aligned with the policies that are really going to strengthen the sector.</p>
<p>	Every year we gather, historically every year we gather the sector together in this vital meeting ground, this conference. We realize collaboration is the way of the future. Early on as were designing for this, we said, "Look, who are the strongest sector spanning organizations we can partner with." The Council of Michigan Foundations is one of the strongest state level, regional association working in philanthropy. The Michigan Nonprofit Association is a similar; it's one of the strongest nonprofit association.</p>
<p>	It made perfect sense to say, "Hey! Let's put our heads together, and let's design together." And that's what we did. It's been a phenomenal experience.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Wow. That's fantastic. I like how you're getting everybody together in the sandbox to play well together, in essence.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Right. Well, the goal I think is playing well together. I think also means struggling to do what we hope happens here. Which is to push each other. Each of us have a different purview. We look across the whole sector nationally. The Council of Michigan Foundations has their lens working with philanthropy here in Michigan. Although, they are also a national player. They've a really great purview, and similarly, the Michigan Nonprofit Association has their purview really on what's going on here in Michigan and understanding the national context.</p>
<p>	We all have strong opinions. We're all leaders in our own right. The work we did in terms of really finding the common ground among ourselves, I think then got reflected in the conference. We've been really pleased with the kind of seamlessness with which our teams have worked together, and the design of content. So the meaning that's coming out of this, the learning is actually synthetic for the whole sector. It's not anyone of those federally, or locally, or just philanthropy kind of getting the lion share of the learning.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	The nice part is interesting. I think it's more of the respectful part. When you really listen to the other and realize they're coming at this one from a place of deep goodwill and a deep level of experience. You're forced to listen pretty thoroughly. And then each of us, and I have to say our partners were phenomenal in allowing themselves to be stretched and stretching us. What we found is what we learned a fair amount here.</p>
<p>	I was just talking with our team that Independent Sector is in this mode right now being a startup in a legacy organization. We after doing a lot of thinking at the nation level, a lot of listening, looking out to the way the world was changing, realized that our responsibility was to kind of called the question for this sector. That we need to change, and we need to evolve and actually pretty quickly.</p>
<p>	Our work here in Michigan grounded us in the very practical realities of where the sector is at. We figured out together the pace with which that change needed to take place. It has been an invaluable contribution as we go to L.A. next year. We've rebranded kind of the work it will now be this wonderful gathering for the social sector called Upswell. You can go to the website, upswell.org. It is not the Independent Sector conference anymore. It is the sector's conference. Much like South by Southwest is for the tech industry. Upswell is going to the gathering for this sector.</p>
<p>	We learned that in a really important way here in Michigan. It was through that collaboration that helped us really say, "How do we develop a place where those who are in transition can find themselves comfortable and be stretched. Those who are on the front edge of innovation will also be excited and can push further. And those who are skeptical can put a toe in the water and find like-minded folks kind of asking questions and exploring."</p>
<p>Natalie:	Wow. That's fantastic. You're grabbing everybody from, no matter where they are in the spectrum really.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	That's the goal, right? The sector is huge. People often forget that, right? There are 11 million workers, and then if you put in the number of volunteers in America, one in four Americans, one in four Americans are involved in civil society. And yet we don't have a sense of a collective identity. Part of Upswell's aspiration is, we know that social change is happening all over America and citizens, really just Americans. People who are here in this country who are just deeply passionate about being part of community, are doing great work all the time. We want to capture that energy and share it out. So the notion of Upswell is that we're deeply locally engaged, but nationally relevant. Anybody can find their place in that conversation.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Wow. That's fantastic. I like that, but now next year we're in L.A.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	We're going to be in L.A. next year. We learned a lot here in Michigan. We sent a team here back in January to live here in Detroit for a month, and to go through a human-centered design program from a local organization here trained by Stanford, and to fan out into the community. That fundamentally changed how we thought about the conference. We're doing that on steroids in L.A.</p>
<p>	We've already identified a group of community base leaders who are actually here in Detroit who are learning about what's going well and what isn't. They will become a community of changemakers over the course of the year helping us plan. So place leaders are already learning from what kind of national discourse looks like. And then turning to their home community and saying, "Wow. We have a lot to learn, and we have a lot to teach. And let's make that happen next year."</p>
<p>Natalie:	Wow. I love the gathering of the information but yet not just sitting on it. You're actually moving it forward and taking some action on it. That to me is incredible.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	That's great. I appreciate you saying that. We believe one of our roles is this notion of recalibrating the tension of how the sector learns. Historically over the last 20 years, a lot of the sector leaders, the big institution, elite coastal institutions, got to kind of say what the important issues were and set the agenda. We think actually communities in dialogue with those elite institutions will create a much clearer and acute understanding of what actually the core issues are. That we then collectively need to catalyze activity and drive change.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right, right. There's always a, making an impact to everywhere that you can go right?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	That's exactly. That is exactly right.</p>
<p>Natalie:	How do you feel that the conference is going so far, and what has been the highlight or inspiration to you?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Personally, I am kind of over the moon. We were quite nervous going into this last year at our conference. We had about 800 folks come. This year I think we've come close to breaking numbers for our conference. We're well over 1400. It's an example why collaboration is so important. The Council of Michigan Foundations and Michigan Nonprofit Association, not only brought their folks but their folks had a place here and contributed. The traditional folks that we brought were in dialogue with them in a much richer way. I'm very proud and very, very excited that that meaning-making has already begun to take place here. We learned a great deal about that.</p>
<p>	The collaboration and the quality of the content ... I was coming back from a dinner last night out in the community with about 30 people. We were at a local nonprofit talking about what is it going to take for our country to become stronger. I've met a diverse group of people. On the bus ride back, a colleague of mine, that I've known for many years said, "You know, I've come to this conference a lot. Most of the time it's been maybe, you know I knew most of what I was going to, and I'd get an occasionally good idea." She said, "I have been challenged and stretched in this conference." So I'm deeply proud that was a collective effort among the sector itself. Stretching itself to grow and learn. It feels to me that is ... If anything Independent Sector can do, we believe in catalyzing leaders into transformative work. It felt to me in that moment; she was saying, "I've feel like I could go back now ready to take on harder stuff."</p>
<p>Natalie:	It sounds like it was just a great moment where she was refreshed and renewed in all that she is learning and ready to, as you said, make it into action. Push it forward.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	I think that's right. I love to notion of renewal. John Gardner, who founded Independent Sector, said we have to constantly be in renewal as individuals and as institutions. So absolutely I think the conference is the gathering of the tribe, the celebration, the eating and breaking bread together, and hanging out, and laughing. I think the other component of what she said is that I had the assumptions about how I think about creating change stretched and challenged.</p>
<p>	And now I don't feel like I am destabilized, but I do feel like I have to go back now and reexamine and bring in what I've learned in the context, and really see if I can push my work forward. To me, this notions of a safe nurturing place to grow is really a tender achievement. And again, that came through collective effort. We couldn't have done it on our own.</p>
<p>Natalie:	I think that's fantastic. You're creating this space for everyone to just really be thought, partners.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	That's right. That's right. That's exactly.</p>
<p>Natalie:	I like that a lot. So in terms of your views for the future of impact investing. How to you see impact investing really tie into your mission, and where do you see impact investing in the local markets really heading?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	That's a great question. So I think impact investing is ... What I'm excited about impact investing is that there is a period when it was treated as kind of the be-all and the end-all. It was going to solve this issue of scale. It was going to be market-driven solutions to drive effective practice out there. I actually still believe that's what it can hold. I think there is now a sober and clear-eyed understanding of the strategies that really, I think the work you all are doing is a good example of really the embeddedness it requires in community. The marrying of those with capital looking to use market-driven solutions to drive change. And the kind of ... prior to hopping on the podcast, you use the notion of training Olympic athletes.</p>
<p>	I think that has been a missing piece. That there is this incredible commitment to these change makers, who are so poised and so capable. And our assumption is that that passion is sufficient to driven them forward. And yet we know there are really technical supports that will unleash their capability and channel that good sentiment, those values in the market-driven solutions. So I'm very bullish.</p>
<p>	I want to call out something about impact investing that I think is going to be a limiting factor unless we partner with a set of institutions that can help, whether it's on the kind of B Corp or the pure social enterprise, or the nonprofit social enterprise. This notion of the tools required for ongoing quality improvement for outcomes. Not for profit, but for outcomes. Creating meaningful social change is actually very, very difficult. There is an emerging body of work. I have to call an example.</p>
<p>	Project Evident, which is a startup, is developing a set of strategies for cost-effective tools to help startups or second stage kind of organizations begin to put together what's called strategic evaluation plan. Part of that is understanding how to get the right sets of incomes, but the key to the strategic evaluation plan is understanding the marketplace for results. So that a social enterprise is aiming in a market-driven way. So that its results, when it produces good outcomes for kids and families or whatever it's trying to do. There is actually pickup and payoff at the end.</p>
<p>	I think sometimes there is a misalignment between what in fact will ... One, first of all, how do you drive effective outcomes for difficult, intractable problems? And then two, who or how are those going to be picked up and scaled?</p>
<p>Natalie:	Right. Now I think you've hit several amazing points. The marketplace, what we're seeing and noticing is that the marketplace when you are creating your business is sometimes not really thought of. Its, yes you want to go do a great thing, have some wonderful impact, but if that marketplace isn't there for your product to help generate your business, you have to go in and create that marketplace. Then that is something we're noticing has been missed as to your point. That you really have to think about that marketplace. Is it already there? Is it waiting for me? Or is it something that I have to go and pioneer on my own?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Yeah. It's an extraordinary important point. Something we're committed to at Independent Sector is working with ... we're working right now with Chan Zuckerberg Initiative to look at what we can do as an organization to create a much more rational marketplace for results. So that social enterprises don't have to have dual challenge of both innovating breakthrough strategies to create social good and market, field building or the market making that then scales that work. It's too much at any one time.</p>
<p>	We think by virtual of our sector spanning world and public policy capabilities. We have a partnership with an organization results for America which is looking at the public policies that could be put in place that will incentivize government to really reward institutions, organizations for profit and nonprofit that are delivering really material value to society.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Excellent. Wow. Thank you so much for your time this morning. I got you up early. You were ready to rock and roll.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	I'm ready to rock and roll. I had a lot of coffee this morning. I'm super excited to be here.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Well, thank you. So how do our listeners touch base with you at Independent Sector?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Sure. First of all, we would love for folks to engage with us. Your listeners are learning and seeing things that often we are not. So I would really invite them to engage with us. There are a couple ways they can do that. One, our website which is independent sector, and I still misspell Independent so don't fell bad, but it is one-word independentsector.org. And then on our website, there's lot of ways to engage. We publish blogs. We invite folks if they're interested in blogging, let us know. We loved to hear their thoughts.</p>
<p>	And then if you go to Upswell.org you can sign up. And we're going to use that platform as a way to engage with folks. And because Upswell is really about kind of the whole shoot and match. We would just invite folks, please sign up, and we will begin to reach out ... and we want their thoughts. Then maybe opportunities for them to curate ideas and present on a national stage.</p>
<p>Natalie:	Well, there you have it and to all of our listeners out in L.A., alright. Ball's in your court. Jump on board, right?</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Yeah, we look forward to seeing you next year. November 14th through the 16th.</p>
<p>Natalie:	All right. Well Dan, thank you so much. I so appreciate it.</p>
<p>Dan Cardinali:	Really great.</p>
<p>Thanks, Natalie and Dan! What a great way to kick off the conference and plant seeds for next year in LA. By the time we are done listening to these great guests, we will probably all be booking some tickets.<br />
Next up, Jennifer catches up with Joyce Cade-Hitchye with the organization, Of Impact. Jennifer had some specific questions for Joyce on the conference.<br />
Jennifer:	Jade, I'd love to get your ideas and thoughts about the conference so far, and also a little bit then about how that ties into what you do every day.</p>
<p>Joyce:	Well, basically, I love this. We've been coming the last couple of years when the Michigan Nonprofit Association converges with the Council of Michigan Foundations. Actually, funny story; can I tell you?</p>
<p>Jennifer:	Absolutely.</p>
<p>Joyce:	Okay, couple of years ago, we attended and, I'm a talker, so I loved the tie that this gentleman was wearing. Right? It ended up to be the president of the Council of Michigan Foundations. He remembered our little encounter years later when we went to another event in April. He told me, "You're coming to the ..." before I was even on the ... what do you call it? His website. Their website. I was like, "Of course! I can't wait to come and enjoy this!" It's really a good ... yesterday we went to the Michigan Nonprofit Association luncheon. Lots of good information. Was sitting right across from,...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-common-future-conference-oct-27-2017-part-one-91]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2433</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/18ac708c-d63d-4cc6-9601-bf9f733090de/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 01:53:50 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ba799b8d-4762-44b5-af9f-ff88f677e1b6/91conferencepart1.mp3" length="60283040" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:52</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Our Common Future Conference – Oct. 27, 2017  Part One Our Common Future conference was held in Detroit, Michigan at the end of October 2017. We have a Part One and a Part Two to give you the top ten.  We will interview several guest speakers that help shape our community. They give us some…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Because of a Case #90</title><itunes:title>S3: Because of a Case #90</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Because of a Case</h2>
<p>Hear from Jamie and Sean Strasberger talking about their business, Because of a Case. Because of a Case is a mobile phone case design company contributing to our favorite special causes. And, of course, we have a great song at the end by a Detroit artist for your listening pleasure.</p>
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<p>Hear from Jamie and Sean Strasberger talking about their business, Because of a Case. Because of a Case is a mobile phone case design company contributing to our favorite special causes. And, of course, we have a great song at the end by a Detroit artist for your listening pleasure.</p>
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			<p><p>Hey Everyone, It’s Romy and I am back with great conversations on the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Today we have Jamie and Sean Strasberger talking about their business, Because of a Case. And, of course, we have a great song at the end by a Detroit artist for your listening pleasure. Let’s kick it off here with a fun fuel from Natalie Hazen; she always comes up with the best fun fuels!<br />
Hello, I’m Natalie Hazen bringing you this episodes’ Fun Fuel.<br />
Mobile phones have become such a part of everyone’s daily life that if you can’t find your phone, that can be a giant disrupter to your day!  Been there!<br />
 Phones have become so mainstream and normal, that a recent post on Facebook about an anniversary reminded me how far we have come in our technology with phones.  This post was celebrating the 25th Anniversary of the first ever text message.<br />
In 1992, 22 year old British software engineer, Neil Papworth, sent the first ever SMS from a computer to his colleague, Richard Jarvis at Vodafone.  That very first text message sent on December 3rd ,1992 simply said, “Merry Christmas.”<br />
Perhaps you remember your first text message and who it was from such as those defining moments in history where you can state your exact location and what you were doing at that moment. That was honestly no me.  But now who would of thought that 25 years later it is normal to communicate via text and also send streams of happy faces, smiling little piles of poo and all sorts of characters!<br />
So happy anniversary text message and hats off to wonderful innovators such as Neil Papworth.  Now on to our episode.<br />
Well, who knew, texting has been around for longer than I thought!  That’s great.  Let’s slide on over to another seat where we move our discussion to the designed mobile phone cases that bring funding to causes while they bring joy to the texters!  Here is a part of my conversation with Jamie and Sean Strasberger of Because of a Case</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's help our listeners understand what your business is and does.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Okay. We're a phone case company, and for every case we sell, we donate a portion to different charities. We have a phone case that we donate a portion to the Sea Turtle Conservancy, and it has sea turtles on it, metallic gold foil. We have all different designs that coordinate with different charities.</p>
<p>Sean S:	For sure, so another organization, the Anxiety ... Association ... What?</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Anxiety and Depression Association of America.</p>
<p>Sean S:	Anxiety and Depression. Do that one. We have a lot of animal causes. We have a lot of human causes. We just cover a lot of different bases, and we donate anywhere from 10% of net profits all the way up to 75% for a couple of our causes.</p>
<p>Romy:	Is the case designed for that particular cause? Am I saying that right?</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah. Some of them will have a design that we want to use, with a charity in mind. Then we contact the charity after we have the design, and show them what we're thinking. Other charities have helped us design it using their colors or their logo, and we use some of those graphics in mind when we design them for the different charities.</p>
<p>Romy:	How do you get the charities to participate? What's been your method of solicitation? I don't feel like that's the right word, that's my geeky finance person coming out.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Sean S:	It's been interesting, just because I think before we started the company, we had this idea, "Oh, we're going to help people," and that was the social aspect of it where we really wanted to bring on as many organizations, with as many causes that we were passionate about, and our followers and customer base was passionate about.</p>
<p>	We found that there's, for some of these charities, there's a lot of hoops to jump through to get them on board. You have to have a certain amount of minimum sales. There's just, depending on the charity, they're not ... Not every charity's wiling to have you on board. They need to make sure you're a legitimate company. They don't just take anybody on, which I guess I think we found kind of surprising at first, just because like, "Hey, you know, we're willing to help everybody."</p>
<p>Jamie S:	At the beginning, we're like, "We want to donate. Can somebody let us donate to your charity." But it is about just approaching them, and especially in the beginning, we approached a lot of charities. Some of them were really open to us, and really excited about working together. Some of them, yeah, we had to have a minimum sales. So it was just about making sure we approached enough charities to get enough on our site, and enough to coordinate with our different phone cases.</p>
<p>Sean S:	I think part of that is just because there's so many organizations out there that are similar in a sense that they're donating a portion of sales. That was one of the unique niches for us, where we found a hole, was that ... Like for T-shirt companies for instance, there's so many social enterprises that were T-shirt companies, where they donate a portion of sales. But with phone cases, when we started, and still at this point, there's not really, there wasn't a leader. So we kind of carved our niche there, and I think we're able to get more charities and organizations on board, because we're the go to charity phone case company.</p>
<p>Romy:	Really exciting.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah, and we have had a couple approach us since we've gotten a bit bigger. Sometimes we'll go through emails and have some charities that now we have to look into and see if we want to work with them. So that's pretty cool too.</p>
<p>Sean S:	At least, in the beginning, I know, it was just as hard to get charities on board as it was to find social influencers or celebrities on board, like it was ... Jamie had to work her tail off to prove our worth to them a lot of the time.</p>
<p>Romy:	So they were almost vetting you as a vendor, even though part of the proceeds were going to go back.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah. They just wanted to make sure that we were legitimate. We were going to donate to them. They wanted to make sure that we were going to be good to work with, and there was a lot of factors in some of them. Some of them were easier, though, to get.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Sean S:	Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	It is interesting. You need people to start to buy ... You got the chicken and egg thing going there. You know. I really want to help you and help each other.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	That's exactly it.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's go back and tell, maybe the story about what inspired you to get started, or what was the light bulb moment.</p>
<p>Sean S:	That goes back to Jamie, because she got her degree in teaching, but I think it was back in 2008, 2009, where the economy wasn't doing as well. So she couldn't find a teaching job. So she had to find something else to do. That's what started it.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah, so I was looking for different things to do. I was substitute teaching, but it wasn't really bringing in enough money. It was hard to get even subbing positions at the time, so I was really just looking for anything I could do. I had a job where I was working ... I got a job I found at, in a department store working at a cosmetics counter. I really liked doing that, and I've always liked makeup and hair. So I started a YouTube channel, and I thought I could play off on this. I built up my audience, and I have about 60,000 subscribers on my channel.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, my goodness.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	I was reviewing all kinds of different products and makeup and hair and food, and just anything.</p>
<p>Sean S:	Stuff on Shark Tank. As seen on TV. All that sort of stuff.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah. My channel name is Reviews by Jamie, if anyone wanted to check it out. But I do all kinds of reviews.</p>
<p>	Me and Sean were always talking about, we need to come out with a product that my audience would really like, because I knew my audience really well, and they're very loyal, and they're always commenting, and they're so sweet.</p>
<p>Sean S:	I think the first thing we thought of was, we were thinking about some sort of a jam, as a play off the Jamie Jammers.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	My name.</p>
<p>Sean S:	We threw that around for a little bit. We threw all sorts of stuff around.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah, which would still be fun to do, but I really noticed that a lot of people were interested in phone cases. So we thought, "Oh this could be fun." I love designing things and I have a good eye for what's trending. I think we could come up with some great designs. We actually sat on that for a couple of years, just going back and forth. Should we start? Should we not? And then-</p>
<p>Sean S:	We went through this one company where you could actually buy all the equipment to make your own phone cases. That was kind of like a big leap for us, because we were always the type of people who never had a late credit card bill. Everything was like always very in order. We kind of had to take a little credit out to get that ... All right, let's leap, and little did we know, that was not even close to how far ...</p>
<p>Jamie S:	It was nothing compared to what we've spent now. It was a $3,000 machine.</p>
<p>Sean S:	Yeah, at the time it felt like, holy moly, we were really taking a big risk here. So we bought this crazy machine.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	But we're not the type that can use something like that and make it work. You had, there was a lot of steps involved, and we didn't make one phone case that looked good. So I was like, "This isn't going to work. We can't sell these." I'm a perfectionist too, so there would be little flaws on the printing.</p>
<p>Sean S:	You literally, you printed out the designs on this special printer, and then you'd use this heat press, which we put in the basement, which yeah, and then you heated it on in the toaster oven, and it was...</p>
<p>Jamie S:	You had to have special gloves for it, and I was like, "Sean, you can't use this. You're going to burn yourself."</p>
<p>Sean S:	Yeah, I'm a little clumsy when it comes to that kind of ... yeah.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	So we're like, we need ... We'll think of a different way for it. We really started talking, "Okay, we could do something more with this." I was having a lot more ideas for designs. Then we had the idea, after talking about donating a portion of every sale, and particularly to mental health, because I've struggled with anxiety, just generalized anxiety since I was a kid. So I thought this would be really cool, because we thought of a really good slogan, and it was, "Find your happy case," instead of, "Find your happy place."</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, I like that.</p>
<p>Sean S:	When it started, it was actually everything was going towards helping mental health. We found this great organization, Minding your Mind, which we still work with a little bit, where they actually do mindfulness classes in elementary and middle, high schools. They do more workshops and trainings around the country to bring more awareness. [crosstalk 00:08:36]</p>
<p>Jamie S:	All these things I wish I would've had just growing up. So it's really cool, and we still work with an ADAA, but then we started having customers who were requesting different causes. So we thought, could we add more? Could we make it different? So we changed our slogan, and now it's, "Protect your phone. Protect the world."</p>
<p>Romy:	Ah, I like that.</p>
<p>Sean S:	Registered trademark.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	Registered trademark. Very nice. Well, I love that. So you abandoned the idea of doing the equipment. I guess I'd call that manufacturing it yourself.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	We're not DIY people at all.</p>
<p>Sean S:	No. Not with anything. We're not the Pinterest [inaudible 00:09:19]. With cooking maybe, but other than that ...</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	But you do have this idea of design, which is great. An eye of what ...</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah. I think I'm pretty good at finding what, and knowing what people want to see, because it's really what I want to see too. I'm really drawn to all the trendy things, and I'm pretty on top of it too, and I'll have some ideas for different designs, and then we'll see other companies do them a little bit after. We're like, "Oh, I think we were on the right track with that."</p>
<p>Sean S:	Much bigger companies, where it's frustrating, and we're like, we just had that idea a week ago.</p>
<p>Jamie S:	Yeah, things we didn't, we weren't able to come out with, that we see other companies do.</p>
<p>Sean S:	I think the funny thing too, is just like looking back to when we had that machine, which we somehow were able to get it right up on Craigslist. I'm still ... Whoever's using that, I hope it's going well-</p>
<p>Sean:	... Get it right up on Craigslist. Whoever's using that, I hope it's going well for them.</p>
<p>Jamie:	I warned them too, I was very straightforward. I said, "It's very hard to use, I don't want you to burn yourself. We had a hard time making the cases", but they still wanted it.</p>
<p>Sean:	They did.</p>
<p>Romy:	Thank goodness there's buyers out for all kinds of stuff in the world that we live in, this time in history.</p>
<p>Jamie:	There's always somebody who wants something you're selling.</p>
<p>Romy:	Anyways, you decided not to be DYIers. How did you discover the steps to do it differently then?</p>
<p>Sean:	The funny thing about that is I think we've slowly discovered, and we had a little experience because right after college we both started a videography company, where we would do weddings and bar mitzvahs. I think that gave us a lot of insight, and actually we're doing that again now. We just recently started doing it again after a little bit.</p>
<p>	I think that really gave us a lot of insight into knowing what you can do and what you can't do. For us, Jamie initially, just because she's got an artistic...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-case-90]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2409</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4f241b24-fc13-4226-86a2-def4907d9470/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 00:49:18 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/312a688e-89d8-44ac-a1ac-c9c12dfd7846/90becauseofacase.mp3" length="62508704" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:25</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Because of a Case Hear from Jamie and Sean Strasberger talking about their business, Because of a Case. Because of a Case is a mobile phone case design company contributing to our favorite special causes. And, of course, we have a great song at the end by a Detroit artist for your listening pleasure.  …</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Douglas Bitonti Stewart #89</title><itunes:title>S3: Douglas Bitonti Stewart #89</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Douglas Bitonti Stewart</h2>
<p>Today we head over to the Impact Investing Inglenook to chat with Douglas Bitonti Stewart about his recent article titled ‘Impact Investing and the Development Professional: Learning to Ride the Wave’. You can find this published article in the Fall 2017 Issue of Advancing Philanthropy Magazine.  Doug shares his very unique perspective on fundraising in the philanthropic space and how that relates to impact investing. Stay tuned until the very end for a special song from a Detroit artist.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and today we head over to the Impact Investing Inglenook to chat with Douglas Bitonti Stewart about his recent article titled ‘Impact Investing and the Development Professional: Learning to Ride the Wave’. You can find this published article in the Fall 2017 Issue of Advancing Philanthropy Magazine. By the way, we have a lot of links in our show notes for this episode if you want to learn more, which, I am certain, you will after hearing from our guest. Doug shares his very unique perspective on fundraising in the philanthropic space and how that relates to impact investing. Stay tuned until the very end for a special song from a Detroit artist.<br />
Let’s jump right in to the conversation with Doug.</p>
<p>Romy:	Well, welcome to the podcast. We're going to talk today about the article you wrote, Impact Investing and the Development Professional. I love that we're going to talk about this from the framing of a development professional because it's rarely discussed, and you have a lot of experience with it. So we'll give links at the end of where this article can be found, and so let's dive right in and talk about the overview of the article first.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	Sure. So thank you for thinking enough of the article to have a podcast about it. I love your podcast, and I think everybody should be listening to this, and I'm also really hopeful that development officers will start listening to your podcast because this is really important stuff.</p>
<p>	To start with the why that I felt this article was even necessary. For me, having spent 20 years as a development guy, working for mostly children's hospitals, I loved that work. And after doing that for 20 years, I was just lucky enough to be asked by a family to help run their family foundation.</p>
<p>	I never thought I was going to do that. Didn't design my career for that but was found myself ... When you've done development long enough, you start to see your role not as raising money, but you see yourself as helping people change the world. And some people do that by contributing money. Other people do that by contributing their careers.</p>
<p>	And so I had a chance to work up alongside a family, and so, I ended up becoming a foundation person, but not because that was my goal. So in my role as a foundation person, I was seeing donors, foundation staff all learning about impact investing. And it was really exciting, and then when I looked back at my peers in the fundraising field, I looked at their training sessions, and I didn't see anything there.</p>
<p>	And there was one article in this publication of the Association of Fundraising Professionals a couple of summers ago. It was a cover article, and it talked about impact investing, but there hasn't been anything in there since or before. And I felt like, "Okay, I'm going to pull the curtain back about what foundations are learning and put it in the...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Douglas Bitonti Stewart</h2>
<p>Today we head over to the Impact Investing Inglenook to chat with Douglas Bitonti Stewart about his recent article titled ‘Impact Investing and the Development Professional: Learning to Ride the Wave’. You can find this published article in the Fall 2017 Issue of Advancing Philanthropy Magazine.  Doug shares his very unique perspective on fundraising in the philanthropic space and how that relates to impact investing. Stay tuned until the very end for a special song from a Detroit artist.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and today we head over to the Impact Investing Inglenook to chat with Douglas Bitonti Stewart about his recent article titled ‘Impact Investing and the Development Professional: Learning to Ride the Wave’. You can find this published article in the Fall 2017 Issue of Advancing Philanthropy Magazine. By the way, we have a lot of links in our show notes for this episode if you want to learn more, which, I am certain, you will after hearing from our guest. Doug shares his very unique perspective on fundraising in the philanthropic space and how that relates to impact investing. Stay tuned until the very end for a special song from a Detroit artist.<br />
Let’s jump right in to the conversation with Doug.</p>
<p>Romy:	Well, welcome to the podcast. We're going to talk today about the article you wrote, Impact Investing and the Development Professional. I love that we're going to talk about this from the framing of a development professional because it's rarely discussed, and you have a lot of experience with it. So we'll give links at the end of where this article can be found, and so let's dive right in and talk about the overview of the article first.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	Sure. So thank you for thinking enough of the article to have a podcast about it. I love your podcast, and I think everybody should be listening to this, and I'm also really hopeful that development officers will start listening to your podcast because this is really important stuff.</p>
<p>	To start with the why that I felt this article was even necessary. For me, having spent 20 years as a development guy, working for mostly children's hospitals, I loved that work. And after doing that for 20 years, I was just lucky enough to be asked by a family to help run their family foundation.</p>
<p>	I never thought I was going to do that. Didn't design my career for that but was found myself ... When you've done development long enough, you start to see your role not as raising money, but you see yourself as helping people change the world. And some people do that by contributing money. Other people do that by contributing their careers.</p>
<p>	And so I had a chance to work up alongside a family, and so, I ended up becoming a foundation person, but not because that was my goal. So in my role as a foundation person, I was seeing donors, foundation staff all learning about impact investing. And it was really exciting, and then when I looked back at my peers in the fundraising field, I looked at their training sessions, and I didn't see anything there.</p>
<p>	And there was one article in this publication of the Association of Fundraising Professionals a couple of summers ago. It was a cover article, and it talked about impact investing, but there hasn't been anything in there since or before. And I felt like, "Okay, I'm going to pull the curtain back about what foundations are learning and put it in the context of a development officer so that they can start learning about this because there's opportunities here."</p>
<p>Romy:	And, Doug, just for our listeners in case they don't know the terminology, how do you define a development officer? </p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	Sure, so for me, and when I think about that, I think of someone who is engaged in raising money for a for-impact organization, and I'll tell you why I use the for-impact and not non-profit. But for-impact organizations that are 501(c)(3)s, and their job is to help raise money for that.</p>
<p>	Now look, that could be the executive director, that they don't have a development officer or a development person. It could be a volunteer that does that but doesn't get paid and so forth, and so it's really anybody engaged in the fundraising enterprise. And just to harken back to what I said a minute ago, so it's anybody who helps people change the world through investing or giving their resources away, whether that's time, talent or treasure.</p>
<p>	But the classic definition is a full-time fundraising; this is what I do, this is what I get paid for. That's what this article was really, who that was written for. It was a full-time fundraiser, a profession fundraiser.</p>
<p>Romy:	And where would normally a full-time professional fundraiser or a development officer go to learn about things like this?</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	So there are national conferences like for the Association of Fundraising Professional, there's local chapters, and so they have monthly meetings. There's even another organization called the Association of Healthcare Philanthropy, which is another sort of subset of development officers that come together.</p>
<p>	Where universities play a role, we have a university that's not too far from here that actually has 450 full-time development professionals. So for them, instead of buying their training, they make it. So they'll have a training department, and that team and different components would meet every month, and they would go deep on some kind of topic.</p>
<p>	But I'm hopeful that a couple of things happen because of this article and because of this podcast and your attention to it, that development officers will start reading the things donors are reading. Start reading the things the foundations are reading. There's a publication called the Foundation ... Oh, my friend's going to kill me for not knowing this. It's called the Foundation Review, the Foundation Review by Grand Valley and the Johnson Center for Philanthropy at Grand Valley, Foundation Review.</p>
<p>	It's a peer-reviewed journal. All the foundation folks are reading it, and I think all the development officers should read it. GrantCraft is an online system that the Ford Foundation created, and foundation folks read it. But I don't think develop ... I didn't. I should just own it. I didn't know when I was a development officer. I didn't read these things. So they need to start reading the things that donors are reading.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	You and I have talked about that before and the for-impact. When the development professionals grab hold of this, the good news is, is that there are a lot of resources for them to find that will already talk about all these tools. The Mission Investors Exchange, it's a great example. There's a number of, and we can talk about those other resources in a bit, and they're in the article too.</p>
<p>	Thankfully, they won't need to see another article from me because there's so much out there that's being written for individual investors and the program folks in foundations and so on. So what I'm hoping is that the development professional will look at this and, as they did, to planned giving way back when.</p>
<p>	That they'll grab hold of this tool, and all of a sudden, it will be one of the tools that they utilize. Program-related investments were born the year I was born. Well, I should say, they were codified in the tax code the year I was born, 1969. But they were actually created before that. The tax code was just mirroring what people were doing, and I'd be happy to give you an example of one that was even before the tax code hit if you want it.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, let's do it.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	You want it?</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	This is a little bit self-serving. It obviously wasn't me because I wasn't born before 1969, but in 1965, Max Fisher, the namesake of the foundation that I'm very, very lucky to serve, he and a group of leaders in the Jewish Community organized a $55 million, actually it was $50 million, $50-million loan to the Jewish Agency for Israel. Now, think about this. 1965, a really important time for the state of Israel.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, yeah.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	So lots of immigrants coming in, all sorts of things going on. The state of Israel is just getting its legs under it and starting to move and so forth. So they didn't have as much as certainly what we have right now in terms of health and human services departments and all of that. So the Jewish Agency is, even today, is a quasi-governmental agency-</p>
<p>Romy:	[cross-talk 00:08:10].</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	... but it's a for-impact or what they would have called then an NGO, a non-governmental, but it was almost quasi. So that money came from 11 U.S.-based insurance companies. They collectively lent the Jewish Agency for Israel $50 million for 15 years at 5 1/2%.</p>
<p>	The collateral was the good faith and credit of the American Jewish people, which means they didn't have physical collateral that they could just seize. And so, that 5 1/2%, I looked this up, and I'll tell you where you can see this story too. But 5 1/2%, at that time, was the mortgage rate in 1965.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, yeah.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	And the only reason I know that is because I looked it up, and I wanted to see, was this a concessionary loan, right? And it turns out it was because you can't get a mortgage with no collateral, right? So it was concessionary, and it was 15 years, and they paid it off in like 12 or something.</p>
<p>	And if you want more information of that, we do have a Max M. Fisher Archives, it's called. It's just MaxMFisher.org, and if you were to look up loan in the resource center, you can see all the original documents. You can read the loan agreement.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow.</p>
<p>Douglas Stewart:	So I think that and we can get to this, but the development profession with planned giving and with other instruments inside that kind of that like charitable gift annuities and so forth, the development profession has developed tools to respond to donor interests and donor needs.</p>
<p>	And so that's what planned giving was, and I think now that donors are creating something in terms of impact investing that they want, that now when the development professionals grab a hold of this, it's going to accelerate. It's not for everybody. It's not for every group, but it is for a lot of them, I think.</p>
<p>Romy:	I agree-</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	It is for a lot of them I think.</p>
<p>Romy:	I agree. Well, and that story is absolutely fascinating.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	It's fun; it's really fun.</p>
<p>Romy:	It's fascinating because it was before the 1967, where they got Jerusalem. That's extraordinary to me.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	It's unbelievable.</p>
<p>Romy:	It's really, really unbelievable. I love the good faith. To go back to this donor drive, and I would like to come back to some of the terminology in a minute. I want to stay on this theme, because without question the drive from the donor or potential investor, I'm going to call them the philanthropic-minded person, who wants to move the needle but wants the accountability is really driving it with estate planning attorneys, life agents, program authors, financial professionals.</p>
<p>	It's whereas before it was either/or, now everyone's sort of forced to have the conversation. It's not happening in isolation just for the very, very wealthy anymore.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	That's right, I totally agree. We all know that Fidelity Charitable is the largest for-impact organization, otherwise knows as some people call non-profits, in the country. Out of the philanthropy 400 on the Chronicle of Philanthropy, they're number one. They've been hovering in two and threes, but now they're number one.</p>
<p>	They're amassing donor advise fund assets, and this is not against Fidelity what I'm about to say, Joshua, all these firms have these things. The question is, are they advising them philanthropically? Are they only advising them on how to put money aside, not putting money to work?</p>
<p>	Everybody is getting into the conversation. I would draw the analogy of the donor advise fund and the commercial folks going after that in the same way that I would if I can lean back on planned giving in 1987 when I first heard about it. That was my first year in college, and I got my first development job by accident at Michigan State University and found this profession that I fell in love with.</p>
<p>	Back then, donors would be talking to a development professional. The development person or a volunteer would've asked them for a gift, and they might have said something like this. They might have said, "I really want to do this, I want to make this gift, but I don't have the cash for it. You know what stinks about it, is that I have this piece of property that if I could just sell it, it has value to me, but it has this huge basis. If I sell it, I take a bath on it. I'm going to be killed. If I could make that a revenue-generating property, but I can't because it's this thing."</p>
<p>	Usually back then the development officer would say, "Oh gosh, that's terrible." Then they would go for another immediate cash gift. Then they would go back to the office and maybe tell an attorney there, an estate planning attorney, just maybe that something happened. They wouldn't do what all development officers do now, that say, "If I could show you a way to create a trust that would allow you to keep that property, and get full value of it, and when you pass we could get the asset."</p>
<p>	Now, put ourselves 30 years ahead of time, now we have donors like the two stories in the article. There's Philip and Lauren, and then there's Jamie and Denise, who made a program related investment, a loan, to an organization without even being asked.</p>
<p>	What they said was they got pitched, in Jamie's case, Jamie and Denise, they get pitched a clinic. Jamie and Denise were saying, "Look, they were very generous donors to the organization." They went into that meeting because they had made other commitments, and these aren't fake stories, these are real people. As a couple, they went in, and they were really well versed in development and so on. They've been asked, they've done leadership gifts.</p>
<p>	They said they were only going to give a certain amount, and that was $50,000, that's a lot. Jamie and Denise are in the car saying, "No more. We love this group, but let's not fall in love again in here and do more than we can." Then they ended up, through a series of questions and a series of meetings, giving $250,000 loan.</p>
<p>	They realized that there was a revenue stream attached so that they could loan them the money, shut the campaign down, and they could wait seven to ten years for their payback. The group didn't say, "Could we get a $250,000 loan?" The group was asking for the gift.</p>
<p>	Again, this isn't going to work for everybody, but it's analogous. That's why I said in the article that planned giving or impact investing in the program officer, program professional realm in 2017 is like what planned giving looked like in 1987.</p>
<p>	That's why 30 years later, here's this huge potential that development officers need to know that donors want, just like they want charitable gift annuities.</p>
<p>Romy:	I noticed the theme of both of these stories; I am full agreement with donors, is that both of these couples were very intentional about attempting to solve and help the organization they're trying to fund. What ended up happening is their capital ends up recycling to catalyze something else in the future. This is very attractive to donors, this idea.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	It is. I love that you said that, in terms of the recycling. I sometimes think when people, especially development professionals, I've shared this article with two of my friends who happen to lead two very large university development offices. I met with them before like, "Gosh, why don't you guys do this?" They're like, "It's complicated, we're worried about it cannibalizing our annual donors. If they start investing, will they give?"</p>
<p>	There's some concerns about that, and I say, "Man, that's the same thing we were saying about planned giving and now look." Then when others think about impact investing, they think about the high flying market-rate side of it, more like the mission-related investing.</p>
<p>	If we were to define these things, program-related investments being concessionary returns so that if you lose it, you can mark it off as a gift. On the market side, you lose it; you lose it. When you're going for market returns, this article talking to development professionals is about the concessionary side.</p>
<p>	It won't be for everyone. A women's shelter that's taking in women from domestic abuse and all these things that we're hearing so much more about nowadays, they may not have an opportunity for this. When we say the donor, we are talking about donors who are, to your point, they want to do this. Many of them are direct cash donors in addition.</p>
<p>	Our first PRI was to an organization that the family had just made ... When I say our, I mean the foundation that I serve. The first PRI that the foundation I served made was to a group that the family had just given a half million dollars to. Then they said, "Would you be interested in a loan for another 200? For seven years, use the money to do exactly what you were doing here, and then give it back to us."</p>
<p>	I'm probably talking too much, but I have one other example where this makes sense.</p>
<p>Romy:	No, I love it.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	You said the money recycling, one of the things that we also know about investors, in the truest sense of the word, meaning an actual financial investor; they always have a cash account. There's for cash flow purposes; there's this certain amount of cash sitting there.</p>
<p>	Foundations have that that have endowments; individuals have it. Imagine you live in a small town, and your small town gets a federal grant for a certain program, it's a violence prevention program. Like any good federal grant, you have to do it, and then they pay you.</p>
<p>	Your small town now can't do it, and because of the for-impact organizations that they're using, don't have the cash flow to front it. Everybody says, "Darn." Then they "Leave money on the table." An investor or a donor who has a cash account and has X sitting in there that might be a small portion, and all they're doing is parking their cash in a different place. It's a federal grant.</p>
<p>	They're just helping with cash flow, 0 interest. Then that money, instead of sitting in Goliath National Bank, just to use a funny. Instead of sitting in Goliath National Bank, it actually creates an impact, and then the money comes back. You're not even paying rent on it, how much are you getting in your cash account?</p>
<p>Romy:	Right, some are negative.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	Yeah, some are negative. That's just to your point, that's not even recycling, that's almost like putting something to use that wasn't going to be used, it's just going to sit there.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's right; it's queuing up an asset. By queuing the asset and putting it into the right puzzle for a season, it multiplies the already existing puzzle.</p>
<p>Doug Stewart:	That's a great way to put...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-douglas-bitonti-stewart-89]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2404</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0945bd55-8612-4415-abd6-85736db007b8/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:39:43 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c933e6b2-ee89-4a26-a8b9-82f9975858f2/89dougb.mp3" length="70330039" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Douglas Bitonti Stewart Today we head over to the Impact Investing Inglenook to chat with Douglas Bitonti Stewart about his recent article titled ‘Impact Investing and the Development Professional: Learning to Ride the Wave’. You can find this published article in the Fall 2017 Issue of Advancing Philanthropy Magazine.  Doug shares his very unique perspective…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: DIME Detroit #88</title><itunes:title>S3: DIME Detroit #88</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>DIME Detroit</h2>
<p>Time for another episode of the bonfires of social enterprise. Hear from the founders who took a chance, traded London for Detroit and began to engage with the young music talent of Detroit and then Denver. As usual, stay to the end and enjoy a full song from one of the student artists from DIME.</p>
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			<p><p>Time for another episode of the bonfires of social enterprise. This is your host, Romy and I love our guests today! It is the Detroit Institute of Music Education that we abbreviate for DIME Detroit. We will hear from the founders who took a chance, traded London for Detroit and began to engage with the young music talent of Detroit and then Denver. As usual, stay to the end and enjoy a full song from one of the student artists from DIME.<br />
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<p>Time for another episode of the bonfires of social enterprise. Hear from the founders who took a chance, traded London for Detroit and began to engage with the young music talent of Detroit and then Denver. As usual, stay to the end and enjoy a full song from one of the student artists from DIME.</p>
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Let’s check in with Natalie and see what she has for our fun fuel today.<br />
Hello, I’m Natalie Hazen bringing you this episodes’ Fun Fuel.<br />
Have you ever just drifted off listening to a song and let your mind wander and float with the melody?  Great songs allow for just this to happen as our senses are taken on a journey with the Artist.<br />
Notable musicians, scholars and presidents each have their own description of music.<br />
William Shakespere said, “If music be the food of love, play on.”<br />
Bono thinks, “Music can change the world because it can change people.”<br />
Stevie Wonder eloquently stated, “Music, at its essence, is what gives us memories.  And the longer a song has existed in our lives, the more memories we have of it.”<br />
But I will leave you amazing listeners with one final quote from former United States President Ronald Reagan.  He said, “Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music.”<br />
Thanks for listening, now on to our episode.<br />
So….interesting!  Natalie, you are so fun!  Love it.  Okay, let’s turn our ears to the interview with Kevin Nixon and Sarah Clayman of DIME Detroit.  They begin by sharing some of their early success in England, their music label, and how they are empowering the kids of Detroit with music and production. Let’s drop in on the conversation now….</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay, great well lets get started, let's talk about DIME, and do you go by DIME or DIME Detroit?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	DIME Detroit here, we have DIME Denver, and we also have DIME online where we have students studying in 22 countries around the world.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yah okay so what is DIME?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	So we are a music institute, we teach guitar, bass, drums, vocals, songwriting, and music industry studies at bachelor degree level. We are very focused on getting young people into the music industry, and giving them the skills, and the academic credentials to be able to earn a full time living in the music industry. So we're about long-term sustainable careers in music.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, that's powerful, so how did it start?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	Sure.</p>
<p>Kevin Nixon:	Okay so it began back in England, we moved from England in 2014, prior to that we originally started in 2001. So Sarah, and I have had our whole lives in the music industry, and in the millennium year music went digital. And so that's when Napster came along, and the whole industry changed, and we were so brilliantly foresight that we thought we'd do something to help the next generation. Not really, we actually realized that there was a lot of change going on, and we kept, I kept getting phone calls regularly from people I'd come up through the industry with saying, "Do you know anybody who can do this job? And that job?" Some of these jobs were like really senior, like one of them was a managing director of Columbia Records in the U.K.</p>
<p>	So we started to talk about this, and say what, "How come there is not another level of people coming up who are trained and being trained to take these jobs?" And we started doing some research, and the research within the industry was very easy for us because we were part of it. Well we went to a few universities and looked at their music departments, and low, and behold, no modern music, all classical, and all jazz. And so we actually thought, "Well let's do something about this, and we kind of built a rock, and roll school.</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	Yah and you know we realize that unless you have a connection to the music industry how do young people get in the music industry?</p>
<p>	You know it's such a closed shop, and we wanted to change that, we wanted to help young people understand that it wasn't about selling a million records, or ten million records like the Foo Fighters, or playing guitar in your bedroom. There are many, many great jobs, and career opportunities within the music industry that young people don't find out about. Like starting a merchandise company, being a tour manager, working in publishing, you know there's so, so many that you can earn a really good living, and still do what you love, which is music. And the music industry beats getting a proper job so.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yes right. What was your background, what was your time in the music industry?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	Okay, so I actually grew up in the music industry, my fathers a concert promoter and a theater promoter. He's worked with artists like Michael Jackson, Barbara Streisand, Power Rangers, Prince, Julio Iglesias, Carpenters like forever.</p>
<p>Romy:	Only those guys.</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	But my dad was from a generation that didn't need education, so my dad left school at 13, he grew up in the East end of London. And just threw a series of coincidences met Gordon Mills, who managed Tom Jones, who's a big singer from whales, and he got into the music industry. And my dad is a brilliant mathematician, and he promotes concerts, so he's all about risk-taking, and making money, and understand the risks in deals.</p>
<p>	So I grew up in that environment, and when I was 14 I said to my dad, "I want to be in the music industry," and he said, "No way it's not an industry for a women." So I said, "Well that makes you want to do it even more dad." So I started to just do some kind of internships with my dad in his office from the age of 13, 14, and then I went on the road, and I learned on tours, and production assistant, and things like that. And then I happened to meet the chairman of Sony music one day, and he offered me a job, so I worked with Sony music in the UK for four, and half years. And that's where I met Kev.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yah so Kevin you were there, what's your background then?</p>
<p>Kevin Nixon:	I was the manager's son; he's biggest UK act at the time, a band called, Kula Shaker, ew we got a feel of this up here. That's one of Sara's, there's loads around, but I was also from a music family, but I'm a musician, so my grandfather was a bandleader, and he was a jazz guitar player. Phenomenal jazz guitar player, there's many jazz guitar players, very few as good as him. And so all of his kids, my mom was the eldest, my mom is an expert on Sun Ra and composers. And then she's got five brothers, and they're all professional jazz musicians as well.</p>
<p>	And I was the first of the next generation, so I got to learn from all my family, and we've all been brought up on the best music. So the first music I was exposed too was Django Reinhardt, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Duke Ellington. And I grew up with that until the Beatles exploded, and because I was the youngest, I became the one who loved all rock, and roll. And in our house, everybody went to work at 6 pm, and so I've only ever known about that really. My dad was a soccer player, and a professional soccer player so in our family you can either play music, or play soccer, and actually, we're all unemployable outside of that.</p>
<p>Romy:	So you guys met and somehow came up with the idea when you saw the gaps it sounds like?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	Yah.</p>
<p>Romy:	So did you start it right in London first?</p>
<p>Sarah Clayman:	No, we started in a seaside town called Brighton on the south coast of England, and the reason we did that is because it is within 50 minutes of London. So we knew that the colleagues and friends we had in the music industry would be able to come visit the college and meet with the students. Because we realized quite early on that young people are super smart, and they started to learn from the Internet, and not just from being in a classroom. And we wanted young people to hear from professionals, and that was really the biggest thing, I think you can only learn so much from teachers. You really need to learn from people who are in the industry doing the work you know?</p>
<p>	So bringing colleagues, and friends down from the music industry to talk about their experiences. What they were doing that week was really important to the thoughts of the company and what we were trying to do. But when we opened in Brighton we opened to 180 students in the first year, it grew to 360, 480, 720, and before we knew it within five years, we had 1000 students. Which took us completely by surprise because we only had a business plan to have a maximum of 300 students in Brighton. But we really kind of captured the imagination of young people, and we created an environment that didn't feel like a university, or a college, it felt like the music industry.</p>
<p>	So young people felt very safe in our building and felt very supported through the creative process because music can be torturous as well. You know if you're a songwriter you're writing a lot about your personal feelings and your experiences. But then the other side of it was the parents really understood what we were doing because they had a guitarist kid who was slightly social awkward in their bedrooms. A mom and dad just scratching their heads going, "What am I going to do with johnny upstairs?" And we come along, and we can say well through what we've created here, not only can your child play what they love doing, which is guitar all day long, but they can also get academic skills, and credits for it. So mom and dad were really supportive, and that's why this thing just grew and grew, so.</p>
<p>Romy:	And then how did you make the decision to jump over? </p>
<p>Kevin Nixon:	So in our years, pre-music education, we both worked in the U.S. music industry as well as the UK, in fact in the international music industry. But I had an office in New York for a while, and I lived there in 94, actually Sara lived there in 94, we didn't know each other then. But I've been working it over here since about 79, and we obviously had a good understanding of the music business here, but it's actually quite different to the UK. And one of the problems with the UK is that there's only about 8000 people working it.</p>
<p>	And we'd have 10,000 graduates after 10 years, so we started to get concerned that the business was getting too big for the jobs to study ratio. And so we thought, "Well we want to keep doing this, this is such a great rewarding thing to do," but we couldn't just keep going in the UK. So we decided to sell our UK business, and actually kinda used the money to come here, which meant that we've only got one investor, and he's a friend of ours. So it meant that we could keep control of the business, which is ...</p>
<p>Kevin:	Sebastian, he's a friend of ours so it meant that we can keep control of the business, which is very important.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah</p>
<p>Kevin:	... because once businesses get big, you know, everybody wants to have a piece of them. So we kind of went back to where we started, and it was a brave thing to do, and we were going to go to Brooklyn and start there, but we got invited to Detroit by a couple of people, one of which is Charlie who is our investor. He tried to get involved with us when we were in the U.K.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh okay.</p>
<p>Kevin:	We had not worked out a deal, but he was like well come to Detroit you know and we also American Idol actually called us, and they wanted to partner with us too, but their short term-ism and our long term-ism was always going to be a bit of a clash.</p>
<p>	We came here, and we met Charlie, and we took the brave step of saying no to Brooklyn and coming to Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah we are so glad. So when was that?</p>
<p>Kevin:	2014.</p>
<p>Romy:	2014 okay. Just to repeat that so we are doing this interview in November of 2017. This really isn't even been five years.</p>
<p>Sarah:	No, it feels like a startup still. We are still learning about Detroit. We are still finding things that we hadn't even thought of. You know it's a really special city. The musical talent here is incredible, but it's a forgotten city.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yes.</p>
<p>Sarah:	You know in terms of education and the young people come to us to study.  They really low level and its hard work.</p>
<p>Romy:	I am a music fan, but I'm not in it that it's a bit underground. You got to find where everybody is. Is a little bit of flushing out, who the talent is, kind of getting them to trust you to be a part of the [crosstalk 00:11:53]</p>
<p>Sarah:	And when we first came to Detroit, we realized that Detroit is city that was built for 1.5 million people and there's only 700,000 people here, so everything is really spread. We were trying to find the music scene, and we realized within a couple of weeks that there was actually five, ten music scenes and everyone was working in isolation. As we were kind of finding out the venues and meeting the bands and everything. We say to them 'well why are doing this, you know, what's next?'</p>
<p>	And they're like what do you mean what's next? Well, are you going on tour? You going to try and get a record deal? You gonna release music and everyone was like what's the point? There's no point in us doing that. No one ever comes to Detroit; we just do this because we wanna jam and we love it. We looked at each other and thought that's a big problem because the lack of belief and the belief in the opportunity that actually it could be you that makes it is not here for a lot of people in the city or wasn't. I think it is changing slowly.</p>
<p>Romy:	A little bit.</p>
<p>Sarah:	Yeah, it's going to take time because you know 30 years of bankruptcy and blight and you know all the issues that Detroit's been through. They don't disappear overnight just because people are investing in the city and new businesses are coming. It's a real ingrained attitude.</p>
<p>Kevin:	I also think to the establishment; music becomes a low priority. When you get a city like this with so many problems, it can be the last thing probably my duty list being very low priority.</p>
<p>Sarah:	But its also a lifesaver for some people.</p>
<p>Kevin:	Well, I was going to say if you look back over the generations, if you took more time out of the city, you know, that's a massive [inaudible 00:13:35] taking a limb off and[crosstalk 00:13:38]</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh yeah.</p>
<p>Kevin:	Then the number of jobs Motown provided and the not [inaudible 00:13:44] but mine probably inspiration that it created is still going on today these 50 years ago. So it's not just Motown if you look at how big Eminem got and Kid Rock and now Big Sean. There's a whole generations of kids who look up to these guys, and they can say 'Okay well if they can do it, we can do it' but actually they can't without help.</p>
<p>	You look at all those people, to Berry Gordy, Eminem, Kid Rock, [inaudible 00:14:18]</p>
<p>Sarah:	[inaudible 00:14:18]</p>
<p>Kevin:	Trackings will be good. [inaudible 00:14:22]</p>
<p>Sarah:	Big Sean yep</p>
<p>Kevin:	None of them made it without help.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right.</p>
<p>Kevin:	I'm sure he might assume that documentary about Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre. Eminem's big thing was without meeting Dr. Dre; he would never have gotten out of Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy:	Mmm-hmm (affirmative)</p>
<p>Kevin:	So we see ourselves as just a bit of a catalyst. People can come here and feel connected to music industry that we been in all our lives and if it's noting more than that, that is something. Actually, it's such a great environment that kids start to over perform, almost immediately and so you get many examples of kids who would otherwise never be in higher education who are suddenly in the position where they're the best at it. That's where...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-dime-detroit-88]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2380</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ffdd7ffe-9ebb-40fd-b66d-9886e73202f5/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2017 10:52:48 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/be6a1bde-a21c-41d5-9a1c-0e0970449193/88dimedetroit.mp3" length="56790752" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>DIME Detroit Time for another episode of the bonfires of social enterprise. Hear from the founders who took a chance, traded London for Detroit and began to engage with the young music talent of Detroit and then Denver. As usual, stay to the end and enjoy a full song from one of the student artists…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Stephen of Charity Charge #87</title><itunes:title>S3: Stephen of Charity Charge #87</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Stephen of Charity Charge</h2>
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As we do over here, there's a great song at the end of this episode, so stay tuned all the way to the end. Now, Natalie Hazen has our Fun Fuel today, let's see what she came up with.<br />
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<td>Welcome back to another episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. My name is Romy and I&#8217;m your host and guide here. This time, we hear from Stephen Garten, the founder and CEO of Charity Charge in Austin Texas. Stephen discusses the moment the idea came together along with the current and I guess, ongoing issues of a social enterprise today. As we do over here, there&#8217;s a great song at the end of this episode, so stay tuned all the way to the end.</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome back to another episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. My name is Romy and I'm your host and guide here. This time, we hear from Stephen Garten, the founder and CEO of Charity Charge in Austin Texas. Stephen discusses the moment the idea came together along with the current and I guess, ongoing issues of a social enterprise today.<br />
As we do over here, there's a great song at the end of this episode, so stay tuned all the way to the end. Now, Natalie Hazen has our Fun Fuel today, let's see what she came up with.<br />
I’m Natalie Hazen and I am bringing you the Fun Fuel for this weeks episode.<br />
Today’s college students are inundated with fliers & applications promoting the latest and greatest credit card.  Of course, we can go back to the 1800’s when American merchants extended store credit to trusted customers.  I think of all the old style cowboy movies where the weary cowboy dismounts his horse, ties the reins around a wood fence in front of the old general store and goes in to buy some well-needed merchandise like sasparilla or something.  Gotta love the movies for that visual.<br />
The WalletHub.com published an article about the history of the credit card and it was in the early 1900’s that a handful of US department stores and oil companies began issuing their own credit cards to be used at that particular business.  Then came the Diners Club card and American Express charge cards in 1951 & 1959 respectively.  Finally, in 1966, Bank of America launched the first general-purpose credit card: the Bank Americard – the forerunner to what is now VISA.<br />
Now I’m certain, that there are still cowboys that dismount their horses and head into their local general store like in days of old, but the stores have certainly changed and so have the credit cards.<br />
Thanks for listening to today’s Fun Fuel!  Now on to the episode.<br />
Oh my goodness, I have never connected [Sasparillo 00:00:46] with credit cards. Excellent Fun Fuel, Natalie you're the best. Oh my, let's drop in now to my conversation with Stephen Garten of Charity Charge.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay, well welcome Stephen. You're calling in from Texas. I appreciate that.</p>
<p>Stephen Garten:<br />
Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yes, we're excited to learn about Charity Charge. Let's jump right in. What is Charity Charge?</p>
<p>Stephen Garten:<br />
Charity Charge is a credit card that lets cardholders earn cash back, that automatically gets donated to any nonprofit of their choice. It's in partnership with MasterCard, so the credit card's accepted around the world, wherever MasterCard is. I think an easy way for people to think about it for context is imagine say a Southwest Airlines credit card where every time you use that credit card, you are earning airline miles. Charity Charge is similar in nature to that, it's just that every time you use it, you earn one percent cash back that's tax deductible and automatically goes to any nonprofit of your choice.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow. It sounds simple, but I'm sure that was not a simple thing to get set up with a big entity like MasterCard. How did you even attempt that, once you had the idea?</p>
<p>Stephen Garten:<br />
Sure. I mean I'm trying to ... I'll answer it in two ways 'cause it's a big question, but hopefully in way that also resonates with other entrepreneurs, or people listening to the show thinking of their own ideas. I had been accumulating all these credit card reward points and come the end of the year; I went onto the bank's website to redeem 'em. I probably spent 45 minutes or so, scrolling through, hey, do I want this Olive Garden gift card for 25,000 points, or maybe I should get this Samsonite briefcase or this pair of binoculars. I was just agonizing over what to do with all my reward points. I remember that after a while, I guess that 45 minutes or so, and then just in frustration, I just logged off and thought, I don't need more stuff.</p>
<p>The next thing I did is I checked my email and a local nonprofit, actually in Austin where I live and the company's headquartered now, sent me an email. It was the end of your fundraising drive, and that's when it clicked. I thought I was accumulating all this value in credit card reward points, and I don't want them. I'd much rather support this nonprofit that I already loved and cared about. That gave me the gist of the idea, but I think the point that I'm making, maybe for some people listening, is that it just seemed like such a big idea and I had no clue how credit cards worked or anything about the industry. I didn't know anyone in the industry.</p>
<p>One of the really practical things I just started doing, is I leveraged Google and LinkedIn. I think the really cool thing about entrepreneurship in 2017 is that we're all connected and have access to experts. In any business that someone wants to start, there's always people who have come before 'em. A quote that I've always loved is that "Everything great is accomplished by standing on the shoulders of other giants." I just started reaching out, and cold-calling and cold-emailing credit card consultants and that started me on the path. I'm happy to go into the minutiae of how specifically I did it for Charity Charge, but it was definitely initially being willing to reach out to experts in the industry.</p>
<p>The funny thing, I think we're gonna be putting up a blog post on our site and a blog. I'm starting to detail this, but one of the things that happened though when I reached out to one of the top payment consultants in the New York City area is that they said, "Hey, we really like your idea. We think we can help you out." They said, "We're just gonna send over a proposal." I got a proposal for ... They wanted me to pay them $250,000 just to get started for them to take me through the steps to pitch banks and put together the model that I needed to use and negotiate the partnership and all that stuff. There were a lot of challenges along the way in trying to figure this thing out. Of course, I didn't have $250,000, so I really just had to figure it out on my own.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. That's a good word for everybody. That often happens to us, as well. You've got somebody in there; my sister affectionately calls them "sharks in the tank." A lot of people stop there, don't they?</p>
<p>Stephen Garten:<br />
... I think a big thing that entrepreneurial endeavors teach you is a level of just emotional intelligence and also just taking reality for what it is. It could have been easy for me just to have complained and said, well, these are consultants, these are sharks, they just want to charge me. The reality is that was their business, and their clients are the Southwest Airlines of the world that set the market rates, being willing to pay those enormous fees and things of that sort.</p>
<p>I think, at the time, I was completely dejected. I thought that there'd be no way to figure this whole thing out, but very much on the flip side of what you said there, the DIY is that what I learned is you can get out there. You can connect with people that started this conversation and get advice and all that, but at the end of the day, it does fall on you as an entrepreneur to actually go forward and execute.</p>
<p>It's been awhile since I thought about this experience, but on even this specific topic of connecting with experts in industry, I remember though that I called 17 people originally. They were credit card consultants that I found on LinkedIn or Google, and I got to number 18. The first 17 either didn't return my phone calls or if I got 'em on the phone, within 30 seconds, they rushed me off the phone, and they weren't interested in talking to me. Number 18 ended up being this gentleman, his first name's Hunter. He was working for a top consultant, one that I spoke with that didn't charge me. He was super friendly and great, gave me some basic advice on a handful of calls, a handful of emails. Then, fast forward about a year later or so, he was actually hired by MasterCard to run their co-brand business development team. Having that relationship early on, the guy that I cold-called, that I developed a relationship and he had respect for me and the idea that I was working on, was really instrumental in ultimately getting that partnership with MasterCard.</p>
<p>Yes, which is awesome for me now, and it's funny as I think back to just being in my apartment with this idea and trying to figure it out a handful of year ago.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
It's just helpful to go back to those humble beginnings and draw people's attention to, yeah, we all have to walk through some of these awkward early steps, right?</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Yeah, absolutely. I agree with everything you just said. I think that a quote that had really resonated with me at the time ... I think I was watching a Tony Robbins video on YouTube or something. He said something to the effect of, "You know, most people quit 'cause they say they tried everything, but you've tried everything that doesn't work." [inaudible 00:10:39].</p>
<p>My uncle said to me once, he was relating to kind of ... When I was originally moved to Austin, I was looking for a job, and I was having trouble finding any place that would hire me and kept going on interviews and not getting hired and stuff. And he said, "It's just a game. You pull a lot of blanks out of the bag and eventually one of them is gonna be live. So you gotta take a lot of shots."</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's good advice. Let's talk about what Charity Charge has become now.</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
 I graduated college in 2008 and moved to Austin in 2010. But we officially launched the company in June of 2016, so it's been about 15 months, or 14 or 15 months now.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let's dive in. We're recording this in the end of summer, 2017, just about September. So what's happening right now with Charity Charge?</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Yeah. We've got a couple of exciting new products and things around the corner that I'm gonna go into. But I would start with just saying that the first year was, to say the least, very overwhelming. When we launched, I was not quite expecting the reception. It was another thing that I've kind of proved the doubters wrong. I was the most surprised by anyone, I think. But when we launched, Today Show picked us up and Fast Company and Huffington Post and a lot of other national new outlets like that. So we were really overwhelmed with demand but also at the same time, as an entrepreneur when you're starting a new enterprise, you're trying to figure out and get your processes in place and your team in place and understand how you can scale your business model. So the past year was getting our feet underneath of ourselves and really figuring out ways that we can scale so that we can make impact.</p>
<p>I think that the really cool thing about Charity Charge, and kinda how I think about it, is it's really a tool for giving. I mean, we at Charity Charge have created this credit card that's really going into an industry that ... In total, 31% of consumers never ever redeem their reward points. So that's $16 billion a year that ultimately flows back to the credit card companies. They call that breakage. They really hide that from cardholders and consumers. But on the credit card industry's side of things, these big banks, they create and market these credit cards that, on the surface, seem to have really rich rewards and bonus points and all of that stuff but then they purposely create things like blackout dates or certain point thresholds you need to accrue towards in order to redeem it for that gift card or that level of cash back.</p>
<p>That billions of dollars flows back, so at Charity Charge, what we do is, the cardholders earn 1% but they pick their nonprofits up front, any nonprofit in the United States including K through 12 schools, churches, et cetera so that it automatically flows to the nonprofits. We have no breakage in our model. I'm kinda going on this rant because I think that we've just got such a great opportunity that we really wanted to figure out how we could scale it because we see this one day redirecting billions of dollars every year back to nonprofits, which goes along with our mission, which is more profits for nonprofits.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh, I love it. I love it. Are you able to track how many dollars have been redeemed or sent out to the nonprofits sort of through the summer of 2017?</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Yeah. I mean, we're fortunate that we're able to track all that. There's some things with our agreements with MasterCard and the bank right now that preclude us from sharing really intimate details about that. But we're working on figuring out some ways that we can be more transparent about our impact as the company.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. Let's land on that for a minute. It is often that you might have some relationship issues or things that you can't disclose. How are you overcoming the impact statements? Everyone's interested in reported impact and the accountability of that. Are you able to report out any portion of that, or how are you addressing that with your key stakeholders that are attracted to you because of the potential dollar impact that you might be making?</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Sure. One thing, just to be really clear. For the people that are actually cardholders, they're able to, at any point in time, log in to their donation dashboard and track and see what they've earned. From a cardholder's perspective, full transparency there. And then for our nonprofits that are benefiting from it, individually, we provide a report to them and let them know how much they've earned and things of that sort. But we wanna be more public and outspoken of our impact, so we're working through some things now. I would say this, I mean, it's probably not the politically correct answer. But I think in entrepreneurship, and it's something that I do every day at the company and will continue to do, is ... You gotta excuse me, Romy. I'm blanking on the [crosstalk 00:16:49]-</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's all right.</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
What do they say? Ask questions later or [crosstalk 00:16:54]-</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh, yeah. And apologize later [inaudible 00:16:55] apologize.</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Exactly, yeah. So, no. We'll be working to be more outwardly transparent, but for anyone, that's actually involved in the company ... If you're a cardholder, there's full transparency to the cardholders and then complete transparency to the nonprofits that are on the receiving end.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Stephen, have you had any, I don't know, any pushback from the industry because of this breakage issue that you talked about? That's a lot of dollars sitting on the sidelines. I mean, you're a disruptor, right? We'll just call it that 'cause you're doing the right-</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Well, I think-</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
You're a doing the right thing disruptor, but sometimes people don't like it.</p>
<p>Stephen:<br />
Yeah. I mean, I think that we're trying to be. I think disruption is such a big word. In companies that scale, like a Tesla or someone like that, have done it, we're trying to get there, right? We need more cardholders. We need more people that, whether it's ... just choosing to add Charity Charge to their wallet. They might wanna use their other cards for different times but even if it's 10% of the time, even if it's just to buy gas, or it's when you dine out with friends, add Charity Charge to your wallet so you can feel good and do good in those times that you wanna give back. That's kind of my message one or my little plug there, to be a little shameless.</p>
<p>But for us to actually get to that point where we're truly disrupting and sending billions of dollars back collectively to nonprofits in need ... Yeah. I think that we're a public benefit corporation, mission first, and that goes counter to the banks, right? I can't say that it's a bad thing. I think that the rules that they're playing in and the sandbox of how they're judged is just different than ours. If you're Bank of America or you're Chase,...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-stephen-charity-charge-87]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2249</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b6429dda-137b-4ddc-87e8-2962a008768e/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:00:11 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d9f438ff-8b9e-43bc-b408-14855d24a31d/87charitycharge.mp3" length="57452576" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Stephen of Charity Charge Welcome back to another episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. My name is Romy and I’m your host and guide here. This time, we hear from Stephen Garten, the founder and CEO of Charity Charge in Austin Texas. Stephen discusses the moment the idea came together along with the current…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Detroit Mushroom Factory: Deana Wojcik &amp; Chris Carrier #86</title><itunes:title>S3: Detroit Mushroom Factory: Deana Wojcik &amp; Chris Carrier #86</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Detroit Mushroom Factory with Deana &amp; Chris</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hello out there in listener land, this is Romy bringing you another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is all about mushrooms! Did you know there are all different types of mushrooms that can be grown indoors, and, that there is a mushroom factory in Detroit?  Well, you will meet Deana and Chris and hear all about their story from concept to now.  As customary, I also like to introduce a song from a Detroit artist at the end of each episode so stay tuned to the end.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hello out there in listener land, this is Romy bringing you another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is all about mushrooms! Did you know there are all different types of mushrooms that can be grown indoors, and, that there is a mushroom factory in Detroit?  Well, you will meet Deana and Chris and hear all about their story from concept to now.  As customary, I also like to introduce a song from a Detroit artist at the end of each episode so stay tuned to the end.</span></p>
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			<p><p>Hello out there in listener land, this is Romy bringing you another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is all about mushrooms! Did you know there are all different types of mushrooms that can be grown indoors, and, that there is a mushroom factory in Detroit?  Well, you will meet Deana and Chris and hear all about their story from concept to now.  As customary, I also like to introduce a song from a Detroit artist at the end of each episode so stay tuned to the end.<br />
Okay, let’s see what Luke has for our fun fuel today…..<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
Did you know that there are over 30 species of mushrooms that glow in the dark? The chemical reaction involved in this is called bioluminescence which produces a glowing light known as foxfire. Some people will use this fungi to light paths through the woods.<br />
Thank you for listening to this fun fuel. Enjoy the episode!<br />
Very nice Luke.  Glowing in the dark….what a fungi….ha ha.  Okay, Romy, enough with the bad jokes. Let’s listen in to what Deanna and Chris are up to and how this all began.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay, great. Well, welcome Deana and Chris to the podcast, Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Got your cool business here. Let's talk about the Detroit Mushroom Factory.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Great. Well thanks for having us. To just give a little background, we are a mushroom farm. We grow right now just out of our home. We live in Detroit, and we grow mushrooms in the basement.</p>
<p>We grow on a substrate that comprises spent brewery grain that we get donated to us from a brewery in Detroit called Detroit Beer Company, and we mix that with sawdust that we get donated to us from a local woodworker named Richard Ganas. And so those two things we combine, we add mushroom spawn, and then we grow those mushrooms and sell them, mostly to local restaurants.</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Wow. Let's go over that one more time just in case, just for terminology. So you grow the mushrooms in your basement on, what was that? It was a bent ... Say that again.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Spent brewery grain. So when beer is brewed at a brewery, they are left over with all this grain that comes out of the mash tun and that's usually a waste stream [inaudible 00:01:26].</p>
<p>So our model, one of the aims of our business is to be a totally sustainable farm. And so we have committed to only growing on recycled materials and spent brewery grain is one of those materials.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. Brewery grain, just for those listening in other languages. Okay.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Oh yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
And then the sawdust. Okay. Wow, that's amazing. Do you need a lot of room for that in your basement?</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Well, we don't have it.</p>
<p>Chris:</p>
<p>I was just going to say; we have one of these old houses in Detroit. It's a four bedroom house, and it's just Deana, myself and our dog, so we really have three bedrooms and a basement and part of a backyard dedicated just to the mushrooms.</p>
<p>So it does take quite a bit of space, I would say. It takes quite a bit of equipment, and it's a little more complicated on the front end than maybe your traditional farming or your gardening because it requires equipment.</p>
<p>For instance, we take that [inaudible 00:02:34], which is usually barley, from the brewery, mix it with the sawdust and then we need to sterilize it. So the mushrooms grow in these special plastic bags that are sterilized. And so we do that in these autoclaves that are basically like big pressure cookers, and then we move that whole operation into one of our bedrooms, which has been set up, basically like a clean room, like a lab.</p>
<p>And so nature really does not like sterile environments. It does not like cleanliness, so we're constantly fighting things like mold and things like bacteria. Nature really likes chaos, so it's always fighting us. We want to grow our one particular mushroom where nature wants us to grow all kinds of molds and things that are always trying to get in the way.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's so fun! All right. So the end product is the mushrooms. How did you guys originally come up with this? I met you, what? Was it three years ago? No? Four?</p>
<p>Deana:</p>
<p>Yeah. Three years ago, I think. 2014 is when we were in our build social class and in the markets I met you.</p>
<p>We had the intention of starting a business when we moved to Detroit. We had both had careers in other sectors and were looking for a change. And we actually left where we were living in California and drove all around the country looking for where we wanted to live next.</p>
<p>So we lived out of our car for about nine months and just toured around, went to different cities that people recommended to us, went to different towns and Detroit really stood out. We really loved it here, and once we decided to settle here, we thought, "Well okay. Maybe this is the place where we can try a business experiment."</p>
<p>And Chris has had a lot of mushroom growing experience, even before we were in Detroit, that maybe he can talk about.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, let's hear it, Chris.</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
Sure. Yeah. I had grown mushrooms just as a hobby. I'm a person who takes hobbies way too far. So when I was in California, I got a little interested in growing mushrooms, I think I ordered a kit. And so you buy these kits online or wherever, you can get them in grocery stores now, where basically you make a little slit in a bag, and then you get mushrooms growing up. And they worked great.</p>
<p>But my brain immediately went to like, "Well, I can't just keep buying kits. Now I need to figure out how to make my own kits." Or something like that and so I just started learning and buying equipment. And little by little, the apartment I lived in started getting totally filled with mushroom grow bags and the entire place was just set up for growing mushrooms. It was my living space and my lab, and it's not that different from how we do it now.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Yeah. But that's when we were first getting to know each other. So as a perspective [inaudible 00:05:19] mate ... When Chris and I first started dating, I went to his house, and a few flags went up because there were mushrooms growing out of phone books and there's an old trunk with mushrooms growing out of it.</p>
<p>He won me over, he did. He made me a delicious dinner out of mushrooms that he had grown himself and so he won in the end. But it was a lot to take in at the beginning.</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
People talk about when they're kids; they want to be a fireman or an astronaut or whatever. I wanted to be a mad scientist. I would take everything and mix it together. I took all the chicken poo and all the whatever, all the mouthwash and I mixed it together.</p>
<p>Luckily none of it was ... there was no bleach and ammonia or something.</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Right!</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
But I wanted to mix everything together and see what would happen and entirely nothing happened. Now that I've gotten older, I think the mushrooms really rekindle that because, like I said, it's difficult in some ways, but it requires a lot of really weird equipment, and it's just strange in a lot of ways.</p>
<p>So it just tickles me in that way, in that same mad scientistic way.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's so fun.</p>
<p>Deana:</p>
<p>When we got to Detroit, we were really taken with how much urban farming is going on here, and that was part of why we fell in love with the city. And when we were conceiving of our business, we wanted to find a way to fit into that urban farming community without directly competing with other growers, because it's hard to make your living growing kale and there's a lot of people trying to do it.</p>
<p>And so it felt like we had this unique way to fit into the market because there aren't really other people growing mushrooms for commercial sales within the city. And so that felt like our niche and Chris had the experience, we had some of the equipment.</p>
<p>My background was as an educator, so I quickly wanted to learn as much as I could and help other people understand the process and it just kind of snowballed from there. Now we have a house filled with mushrooms.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
We arrived here somehow.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
And it sounds like you've got some customers. You said restaurants are starting to buy them, right?</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Yeah. We've been so overwhelmed and grateful by the support of the restaurants in the city. From the very beginning, really before we had our act together before we were taking ourselves seriously as a business, we kind of sheepishly mentioned to a couple of restaurants that we liked to eat at that we were trying to be a mushroom farm. And immediately they just open arms, welcomed us, said they would buy whatever we had.</p>
<p>So we've had some really loyal customers from the very beginning. Rose's Fine Food has been buying our mushrooms since before we had mushrooms, basically. Their owner, Molly Mitchell said, "Whatever you have I'll buy." And they've been so supportive and so patient. Sometimes we have them; sometimes we don't.</p>
<p>And then as the local food landscape has grown even more in the city, other restaurants have gotten in touch and been interested. Sister Pie uses our mushrooms sometimes, Brooklyn Street Local is a very committed customer. We sell through Grown in Detroit, which is a co-op of growers at Eastern Market.</p>
<p>So we've been really lucky. We have a lot of different outlets, and people seem willing to go that extra mile to support local farmers, and that's why we're in business.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. Wow, that's a good word. This is an odd question from somebody who doesn't understand your business, but does anyone have any trouble with the fact that you're growing them in your home? Because usually, it's probably better than just out in the random woods, right?</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Yeah. I don't think that's a-</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
Yeah, I was just going to say, people certainly self-forage mushrooms. It's an entirely different set of skills. Foraging mushrooms and identifying them is really, really complicated in its own way. So the way we grow right now is, it's a business on the way to becoming a business.</p>
<p>We came in with maybe the most important quality for new business owners or new business founders, which is, we were utterly naive about how difficult it was going to be. And we often talk to each other, and we say, "If we knew all of what we have to deal with now then, would we have even have done it?" Because a lot of what we're trying to do now is grow.</p>
<p>So we grow in our house, but we're not producing at nearly the level we need to really have a business that can support our demand and ourselves. So we also have this warehouse that we purchased two years now? A year ago? Also in Detroit.</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Last July. Yes.</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
Last July. About five minutes from our house, in the north end of Detroit.</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
About five minutes from my house, in kind of the North end of Detroit. And so now we're trying to move basically from a large, hobby farm into a small true production farm, and just learning so much about the challenges that that poses, and very few of them so far are about growing mushrooms. It's about developing this building that's seen better days and growing, just continuing to grow, be aggressive.</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Yeah, that's so good. I love what you just said. I mean while you're growing mushrooms, you're trying to grow your business. It's like, there's always more shenanigans that happen than just the running the business part than I think people understand. It's just everything from the financial part, to operations, execution, marketing, communications, and I mean, oh my gosh, what about customer service?</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
Right.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
So it's like everything. It's a lot when you're a small team trying to scale at least even just to the next step.</p>
<p>Chris:</p>
<p>Yeah, and it's funny-</p>
<p>Deana:<br />
Right.</p>
<p>Chris:<br />
How little of it ends up being like ... I'm a software engineer, that's my background, so I'm technical. I want the problem ... I wanted to grow better mushrooms, and it's amazing how little, at least early on, that is the problem. It becomes ... it's about running a business that's [inaudible 00:11:22] more so. Your passion takes you to a certain point and then you have to say, "Okay, now I gotta like do my books, and I gotta do the taxes, and we have to find funding, and we have]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-detroit-mushroom-factory-deana-wojcik-chris-carrier-86]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2237</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f312d869-41cf-4f89-8d49-eac1540f958d/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 05:06:32 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/531e5660-6ac7-4aca-b28f-71a425b51118/86mushroomfactory.mp3" length="63310496" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit Mushroom Factory with Deana &amp; Chris Hello out there in listener land, this is Romy bringing you another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is all about mushrooms! Did you know there are all different types of mushrooms that can be grown indoors, and, that there is a mushroom factory in…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Detroit S.O.A.R. – Sisters On A Roll, Mobile Cafe’ #85</title><itunes:title>S3: Detroit S.O.A.R. – Sisters On A Roll, Mobile Cafe’ #85</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Detroit S.O.A.R. &#8211; Sisters On A Roll, Mobile Cafe&#8217;</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hey there, I am back with another guest from the great city of Detroit. This is Romy, and I have the pleasure of introducing you to Chef Bee and Jasmine of social enterprise Detroit S.O.A.R!  They have an inspiring story of joining together around health food for some very interesting reasons. This is a true story of how we are better together!  Stay tuned at the end for a really fun song by a Detroit artist. As a matter of fact, you might want to find your dancin’ shoes while you are listening, so you are ready.</span></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/SOARPeaceMeal.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/wings.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DetroitSoarTT.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2231" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DetroitSoarTT-169x300.jpg" alt="DetroitSoarTT" width="169" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2232" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-300x169.jpg" alt="Campus_Martius" width="300" height="169" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-300x169.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-768x432.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2233" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos-169x300.jpg" alt="ChiptoleTacos" width="169" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos-169x300.jpg 169w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos.jpg 270w" sizes="(max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2234" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-300x169.jpg" alt="Channel_7" width="300" height="169" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-300x169.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-768x432.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2235" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-300x138.png" alt="Detroit_soar_logo_huge_(1)" width="300" height="138" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-300x138.png 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-768x354.png 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-1024x472.png 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hey there, I am back with another guest from the great city of Detroit. This is Romy, and I have the pleasure of introducing you to Chef Bee and Jasmine of social enterprise Detroit S.O.A.R!  They have an inspiring story of joining together around health food for some very interesting reasons. This is a true story of how we are better together!  Stay tuned at the end for a really fun song by a Detroit artist. As a matter of fact, you might want to find your dancin’ shoes while you are listening, so you are ready.</span></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/SOARPeaceMeal.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/wings.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DetroitSoarTT.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2231" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DetroitSoarTT-169x300.jpg" alt="DetroitSoarTT" width="169" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2232" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-300x169.jpg" alt="Campus_Martius" width="300" height="169" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-300x169.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius-768x432.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Campus_Martius.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2233" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos-169x300.jpg" alt="ChiptoleTacos" width="169" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos-169x300.jpg 169w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ChiptoleTacos.jpg 270w" sizes="(max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2234" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-300x169.jpg" alt="Channel_7" width="300" height="169" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-300x169.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7-768x432.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Channel_7.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2235" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-300x138.png" alt="Detroit_soar_logo_huge_(1)" width="300" height="138" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-300x138.png 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-768x354.png 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Detroit_soar_logo_huge_1-1024x472.png 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Hey there, I am back with another guest from the great city of Detroit. This is Romy, and I have the pleasure of introducing you to Chef Bee and Jasmine of social enterprise Detroit S.O.A.R!  They have an inspiring story of joining together around health food for some very interesting reasons. This is a true story of how we are better together!  Stay tuned at the end for a really fun song by a Detroit artist. As a matter of fact, you might want to find your dancin’ shoes while you are listening, so you are ready.<br />
Before we hear from Jasmine and Chef Bee, let’s see what Luke found for us on this episode’s fun fuel<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
While on the topic of mobile food, nearly 795 million people in the world do not have enough to eat. That is approximately one in nine people. 98% of the worlds undernourished population live in developing countries. Thanks to companies like Detroit Soar, that bring food to people who don't get enough to eat, the world hunger problem has dropped from 23.3 percent in developing nations to 12.9 percent.<br />
Thank you for listening to this fun fuel. Enjoy the Episode!<br />
Thank you, Luke! Listening to those statistics, it really makes me thankful for the work of Detroit SOAR. Let’s listen in now….</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
We're excited to have you. You guys [crosstalk 00:00:22]. Yeah, you guys were ... we met cause you were winners at a Build Social event in Detroit. Right?</p>
<p>Jasmine R:<br />
Yeah. So, we were in an eight-week business accelerator to help us learn how to build a business while still doing a social mission and making a profit. And we met you at our pitch competition for that.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. Lucky for me! Yeah, so let's, first of all, let our listeners know about Detroit SOAR and ... I don't know is that the name you use or do you say Sisters On A Roll? Can we clarify that right out of the gate?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Yes. We can clarify that. Sisters On A Roll is my personal company, and me and Jasmine met through that company, and together we became partners to do Detroit SOAR, which is Sharing Opportunities And Resources.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. Glad to know that. Okay, so Detroit SOAR is Sharing Opportunities And Resources. Alright, I love it. And then do you still have your other company going, Chef Bee?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Yes. That's the company through which we do the catering for Detroit SOAR -</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
And everybody else.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
And you really go by ... you're really most known as Chef Bee. Right?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
I am.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
And why is that? Let's go back in history just a little bit.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Oh, we're going way back. I was in the kitchen when Tony from Andiamo's and it was two Browns in the kitchen. So, he called me Chef Bee.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay -</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
And I've been going by Chef Bee ever since.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
So that's so good. So, what is Detroit SOAR?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Detroit SOAR is a way that we reach the people through the medium of food.</p>
<p>Jasmine R:<br />
Yeah. So what we're trying to do when Chef Bee and I met we had a lot in common, and one of the things was our passion over food and our passion to serve the community through food. So, what we wanted to do was create a company where we could pull both of those together. So, what we normally tell people when they ask us, "What is Detroit SOAR?" is we say it's a mission driven café that helps bring the community together through food and events.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Now, are you mobile [inaudible 00:02:41]?</p>
<p>Jasmine R:<br />
So, we are mobile. So right now for the past like six months or so Chef Bee and I have really been focused on doing a lot of pop-up events. So, I know people have seen us at Eastern Market, at [Marlow 00:02:51] Farmer's Market, at Campus Munches, a couple other pop-up places. And then we are working on becoming mobile. So, we have a couple of food trucks. One we are very close to finishing up licensing for it and then we'll be on the road, you know, being able to go around Detroit serving different areas. And then we have an additional food truck that we're trying to build out for the winter. Cause our current one only runs on diesel, which tends to gel up when it gets cold. So we have another one that runs on gas that we can use a little bit easier during the winter months.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
So, nice. Alright. And so the purpose, just to get real basic for our listeners, the purpose is to deliver nutritional food, right, to some of those that might not have access to it?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Yes. That would be our end goal ... First of all, we want to be sustainable, so we want to be able to provide a service to the people that's already in the food deserts and also serve the people that are going through food injustice. And the flip side of that is offering everybody else; we're offering everyone healthy food service. Our food service, we want you to think about it a little bit differently. Like, yeah, you can get fried chicken anywhere, but how about maybe an oven friend chicken versus something greasy. You know what I'm saying? Or -</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Mm-hmm (affirmative)-</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Try it this way. We take different cultures of food and familiarize it for you. So, then you can taste the flavor of love, too.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
And Chef Bee, what's the reason why you want to deliver some nutritional food?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
I come from outreach ministry. So, I'm always feeding someone. And I see the quality of the food that the big non-profit companies give to some of the people, and it's horrible. Like, I don't want to put this on the air, but I'm gonna say it. Like Red Cross food trucks ... they give the people watered down soup, maybe a piece of fruit, and green hot dogs. And I think that's horrible. Like, how is that gonna sustain somebody? You know what I'm saying? -</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
I'm coming to a truck to be fed for free. At least give me something that will sustain me. And so I feel like it's my job to do that. Like, because I know I can. [crosstalk 00:05:17] You know even though it's statistically you looked at me.  I'm a walking statistic on poverty and everything else, but I don't feel that way because as long as I'm able to help my brother, I'm rich.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yes, yes. I say, "Amen" to that. My faith has me saying unto that. Yes. Yeah, well good. And you've been feeding people for a while cause I think this is part of how this all started. Right?</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Yes. What happened was prior to me even meeting the lady that I named my business after, I was always in outreach ministry. Always cooked and feed the people. I always cooked and fed seniors, people that could no longer cook for themselves, people that had dietary issues. And what happened was my mother got sick, my husband let me take off work, and so I was cooking for people and, you know, to help make up for the lack of not having a job, that's what started it. And then a friend of a friend asked me to help a friend. And that's how Sisters On A Roll actually started. She fell backward, and they said she would never walk again, but she drug herself until her body obeyed.</p>
<p>And so she needed somebody to go along with her to business class. I went along with her, I was learning everything she was learning, and they asked the question, and I was in the classroom, and I was like, "Well, you know, I had to remember where I come from." Like my grandparents had businesses and everything, but by the time we were of age to realize what was going on, we were already having to work for someone else. So, this whole series of tragic events turned out to be a beautiful thing. In the process, I met Jasmine, and she's loved me from the first like really ... And we lost touch for a minute, and then when we saw each other again, it was like we had never missed a beat. And then the more we talked, the more we wanted to partner up, and we was like, "Time is short. Let's just do it. If it doesn't work, we'll do something else."</p>
<p>And we were just looking at all different injustices going on in the city, out of the city, and everything else, and we was like, "We got a solution for that." And we'd become mobile and not be tied to one particular place. Then not only can we sustain ourselves, but we can help others be sustainable and test the market as well.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. That's so good. And Jasmine, what's your background. How did you sort of arrive one the scene?</p>
<p>Jasmine R:<br />
Yeah. So, I actually went to the University of Michigan, and I was studying business. I was in their business school, and I was always interested in the start-up scene. So there in college, I worked on various start-ups, and one of the ones I started doing on my own was called DineRoll, and it was a visual way to find food in your area.</p>
<p>So, I came to TechTown; I became part of their DTX Launch Detroit program. So, I was in it for the summer of 2015. Really interviewing a lot of restaurant owners, food bloggers, foodies, anyone in the Detroit food scene ... to do a customary discovery for the app, I was trying to build. And during that time, there was a pop-up dinner, and I never even really heard of pop-up dinners. I didn't know what it was. But there was one at Checker Bar and my partner at the time was like, "Let's go check it out." So, I checked it out, and it was Sisters On A Roll that was putting it on. So, I got to try some of [inaudible 00:08:47] food and after I was like, "Can I just sit down to interview with you and figure out some of your pain points, your backstory?" So like Chef Bee said, her and I met up and we just really bonded at the time. And my startup ended up falling through, so I reached back out to her about six months after that and then her, and I partnered up. And we've been doing this ever since.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Nice, nice. Cause you guys, sometimes when you come from ... un-similar backgrounds and un-similar age groups, and all that, it's hard to mess. But I got to tell you having watched you two together; you seem like a natural fit for the business.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Yes.</p>
<p>Jasmine R:<br />
I love it. Like she teaches me how to cook, and I'm now learning how to cook different things. [inaudible 00:09:30] I didn't cook them before -</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
She gives me new eyes. You know what I'm saying?</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
Like her energy is ... how you say it? It's infective, it's like, "Oh my god!" [inaudible 00:09:43] as a bunny. You know what I'm saying? She's like my other daughter / sister / partner all at the same time. Cause like she's really actually my medium ... my middle aged daughter's age. But together, you never know that. You know what I'm saying? -</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right.</p>
<p>Chef Bee:<br />
It's like the stuff we've been through in the last year ...</p>
<p>Chef Bee.:<br />
It's like the stuff we've been through in the last year, melded us together, she like one of the family. You know what I'm saying, it's so funny to me like my kids like, "Where's Jasmine at?" If I go to a concert separate from her, they like "Where Jasmine at?" You know what I'm saying, it's natural, it became natural. Looking at the cultures, looking at the, like you say, lifestyles, all the differences, how would that work? But we know that it's of God because we consider one another, that's what makes it work to me, and together we wage war with a fork.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yes, ah, that's so good! That's so good. You guys are a dynamic duo; there is something about you two together. I told someone that I had bumped into the next morning after I saw you two present, and I'm like, man, they are the dynamic duo. There's some sort of multiplied force when they get together; I could just see it, so good.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, and you know what, I'm glad you just said that. I think sometimes, we get a lot of questions about doing business in Detroit, and my consistent theme is like, look, everybody has a story, every person who's trying to do work in the city of Detroit, especially any entrepreneurial work, every single person has a personal story and most of us are figuring out we're better together. You know ...</p>
<p>Chef Bee.:<br />
That's the bottom line, that's the bottom line. By myself I've been trudging along, I couldn't stop even if I wanted to and just having her along the journey she gets to see things and what I love about the food part is love on a plate crosses all cultures, all economic barriers. Even if you can't speak, if you can't converse with one another, if you put love on a plate, it will tell a story. It will change the narrative; it will do away with all the stuff that we as humans get bogged down with.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, it's so true. So thank you for exploring that for a second with me because I just feel like so many good things are happening for us here in Detroit and I just wanted to highlight that, no matter what the news says.</p>
<p>Chef Bee.:<br />
And that's another thing that I found that through food we have a voice. You know what I'm saying, you might not hear me by myself but if me and her are saying the same thing, somebodies going to take notice.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, that's right. We have kind of a great food scene here, don't we, I'm mean it's more that what people would think.</p>
<p>Jasmine:<br />
Oh yeah, it's definitely coming to life in the past couple of years with the revitalization of Detroit. You know, more younger professionals moving to the city, it's completely changed, and it's awesome to see.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, so Let's talk more about your business model for a minute, let's just hang out there for a second.  Are you guys charging some and offering free to others or, how's that working for your own financial sustainability?</p>
<p>Jasmine:<br />
Yeah, of course. So a lot of what we learn actually in the build social class that we met you at was how to create a pay it forward food economy. So what Chef Bee. and I are trying to do partner with our customers to help be able to feed the food deserts of Detroit. So during the day time when her and I pop up at campus marshes or Eastern market, we can charge a little more for our food. That way we can then go back out into the food deserts of Detroit where people can't afford to pay anything at all and be able to serve them still while still having a profit to offset the end of the day.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, smart. Sorry, and when did you start doing that? Did you do it right away or just recently?</p>
<p>Chef Bee.:<br />
I've always did it. A long time ago I used to be under a nonprofit before I really knew all the statistics and all that blah, blah, blah stuff about it and I saw it in action. I saw that they partnered with Gleaners, which is what we're trying to do to get food for pennies on the dollar, take that food, make a full product and then give it to the people. Because a lot of the people don't have a way to cook the food, don't have a way to keep fresh food and a lot of the food that they're given is being thrown away. So, what good is it if I can't give you something again that's sustainable, but if we take those full products that's given, giving it to them in a hot meal, they can consume it and don't have to worry about trying to figure out where they got to store it, where they have to heat it up...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-detroit-s-o-r-sisters-roll-mobile-cafe-85]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2227</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/94242a86-c94e-4267-a57b-718a47bc48dd/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2017 00:19:06 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/feeb6a68-bbf7-40f8-98a7-ce15997fffe9/85soar-1.mp3" length="65503328" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>45:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit S.O.A.R. – Sisters On A Roll, Mobile Cafe’ Hey there, I am back with another guest from the great city of Detroit. This is Romy, and I have the pleasure of introducing you to Chef Bee and Jasmine of social enterprise Detroit S.O.A.R!  They have an inspiring story of joining together around health food…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Latrice McClendon of Impact Community Health #84</title><itunes:title>S3: Latrice McClendon of Impact Community Health #84</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Latrice McClendon of Impact Community Health</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Thanks for tuning in to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have a friend of mine on the episode today. Latrice McClendon is quite an entrepreneur and just an all around amazing person. On this episode, we will hear about one of her businesses. She has at least one other venture with her husband.  And, of course, you know I love music around here, so we will hear from another Detroit artist and their full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned!</span></p>
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			<p><p>Thanks for tuning in to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have a friend of mine on the episode today. Latrice McClendon is quite an entrepreneur and just an all around amazing person. On this episode, we will hear about one of her businesses. She has at least one other venture with her husband.  And, of course, you know I love music around here, so we will hear from another Detroit artist and their full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned!<br />
Luke has our Fun Fuel today, let’s see what he found for us….<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
While on the topic of infant health care, did you know that around 255 babies are born each minute? So for the time, it takes you to brush your teeth, nearly 300 new lives are brought into this world. It is also estimated that 353,000 babies are born in one day around the world. So far this year, over 78 million babies have been born.<br />
Thank you so much for taking time to listen to this fun fuel! Enjoy the episode!<br />
Thanks for that fun fuel Luke!  Time to check in now with Latrice and see what she is up to with beautiful mama’s and their perfect little babies….</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Alright so welcome Latrice Mcclendon from Impact Community Health, I am really excited you're on our show.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Thank you, I'm excited to be on your show.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Our little podcast. We love our little podcast.</p>
<p>Well anyway [crosstalk 00:00:18] so today we're talking about health, and you've got a cool spin on your new social enterprise. Well, I guess it's not new; but I just newly met you through Build institute, Build Social, right? Couple-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Correct.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Months ago. Yeah.</p>
<p>So you were one of the winners of the program there, and I got really excited right then to put you on the podcast as a guest. So, for our listeners, let's tell everyone what Impact Community Health is in the Detroit area.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Awesome. Hello, everybody. Impact Community Health is- we are a maternal/infant health program here in Michigan, and our main goal is to reduce infant mortality rates. We work with pregnant women, caregivers of infants up to 18 months who are Medicaid beneficiaries, and we address the psycho-social issues and any logistical barriers that a lot of women or children are faced with as far as having either a healthy birth outcome, or any barriers that are [inaudible 00:01:27] and making it to their first birthday, and of course, developing up to 18 months.</p>
<p>So that's what we do, we focus on reducing infant mortality rates.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. Wow. Well that's- there's a obvious social impact from saving our beautiful babies. So-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Your business- so what do...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Latrice McClendon of Impact Community Health</h2>
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			<p><p>Thanks for tuning in to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have a friend of mine on the episode today. Latrice McClendon is quite an entrepreneur and just an all around amazing person. On this episode, we will hear about one of her businesses. She has at least one other venture with her husband.  And, of course, you know I love music around here, so we will hear from another Detroit artist and their full song at the end of the episode so stay tuned!<br />
Luke has our Fun Fuel today, let’s see what he found for us….<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
While on the topic of infant health care, did you know that around 255 babies are born each minute? So for the time, it takes you to brush your teeth, nearly 300 new lives are brought into this world. It is also estimated that 353,000 babies are born in one day around the world. So far this year, over 78 million babies have been born.<br />
Thank you so much for taking time to listen to this fun fuel! Enjoy the episode!<br />
Thanks for that fun fuel Luke!  Time to check in now with Latrice and see what she is up to with beautiful mama’s and their perfect little babies….</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Alright so welcome Latrice Mcclendon from Impact Community Health, I am really excited you're on our show.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Thank you, I'm excited to be on your show.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Our little podcast. We love our little podcast.</p>
<p>Well anyway [crosstalk 00:00:18] so today we're talking about health, and you've got a cool spin on your new social enterprise. Well, I guess it's not new; but I just newly met you through Build institute, Build Social, right? Couple-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Correct.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Months ago. Yeah.</p>
<p>So you were one of the winners of the program there, and I got really excited right then to put you on the podcast as a guest. So, for our listeners, let's tell everyone what Impact Community Health is in the Detroit area.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Awesome. Hello, everybody. Impact Community Health is- we are a maternal/infant health program here in Michigan, and our main goal is to reduce infant mortality rates. We work with pregnant women, caregivers of infants up to 18 months who are Medicaid beneficiaries, and we address the psycho-social issues and any logistical barriers that a lot of women or children are faced with as far as having either a healthy birth outcome, or any barriers that are [inaudible 00:01:27] and making it to their first birthday, and of course, developing up to 18 months.</p>
<p>So that's what we do, we focus on reducing infant mortality rates.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. Wow. Well that's- there's a obvious social impact from saving our beautiful babies. So-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Your business- so what do you do then? What does the business look like?</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
So what we do, we actually send in social workers and nurses to educate, to encourage, to give all kinds of information on how to either take care of yourself while you're pregnant or how to take care of your baby. So we also have lactation consultants that we send in. We do parenting classes to educate. So our biggest mission is to educate.</p>
<p>And we do that because a lot of people- you can't do what you don't know.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
And sometimes we take for granted- we take for granted a lot of times like, oh they're having a baby, or raising a baby is easy, and people should know this. But we found out that there's a huge population of people who just don't understand what it takes to have a healthy pregnancy or get their child and have up to- I'm sorry, have their child healthy up to the age of one or 18 months. A lot of babies don't make it.</p>
<p>[crosstalk 00:02:56] so one of the statistics I like to tell people in Michigan: Michigan's infant mortality rates are comparable that of a third world country. We have very high infant mortality rates in Michigan. For out of every thousand babies born, just in general, seven die due to- could be, maybe they slept wrong in their crib, or they weren't in a crib, they were in a crowded bed. It could be smoking issues in the house, suffocation issues. It could be parents who don't know you can't leave your baby in a hot car. We deal with so many issues that really people just don't have the understanding, and that's seven out of thousand. In Detroit, that statistic is actually tripled.</p>
<p>And so we're on a mission to reduce the number of babies who don't make it to their first birthday.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That is crazy that it's that high. That's- how did you start to even- how did you even decide to tackle this yourself?</p>
<p>I mean that's crazy high status-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah, it's very high. Well, you know, honestly what happened was, before I got into doing this I actually had a personal experience. Not with myself, but I had a nephew who was five months old, and his mother left him in a bed, and the bed was close to the wall, but not close enough where it was like- there was a space. Well, anyway, she left him in a room for maybe 10 to 15 minutes, the baby rolled over and suffocated between the wall and the bed.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
And it was very devastating. Yes. It was devastating. It was devastating to my nieces and nephews. It was devastating for myself and my brother, you know. Everyone was just in shock and couldn't believe- cause, you know, no one thinks that this kind of stuff actually happens, and then, when it hits your family, it makes you think like, "Wow. You know, I didn't even know this kind of stuff existed."</p>
<p>You don't think that it could happen to you. And so within the last two years, I was presented with the opportunity. I was working with a social worker, and we were talking about another infant who had passed away from a pillow being in the crib. And the pillow- the mom woke up, she left the pillow, the baby was under the pillow when she woke up. She lost her baby. And so I got really concerned, and I asked one question, "What can I do to be a part of this and help to reduce and get the word out?"</p>
<p>And I started doing some research and found out that Michigan has many programs that allow people to work in this particular area. So I applied for the program. It felt like a 300-page application. [crosstalk 00:05:48] [inaudible 00:05:48] and today we're servicing over 100 women. I mean, we're really making an impact right now.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow, so this is really- this will probably come up as question. So you applied for a state program that- did it have funding Latrice? For you to get started, is that what you mean when you applied?</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Well, you have to meet certain requirements. You have take online classes. We applied to be an agency, in the state of Michigan.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh got you [crosstalk 00:06:22] okay.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah, so there are some hospitals and- matter of fact, the city of Detroit just opened up a maternal/infant health program, because it's really- the rates are really high in Detroit. So it's becoming a health issue, just across the board, so they allow individual agencies, as well as hospitals, and people who are in that profession to actually be able to start a company. So they just take you through- it's a big process, just like starting a business. You have to have a business plan, you have to have a location, you have to know what you're marketed plan is, what your strategy is to get clients, who your clients are gonna be, and so what your budget looks like, and you have to have the right amount of people hired.</p>
<p>So it's just like starting a business, it's just with the state of Michigan, and we are- we do take Medicaid, so they want to make sure that you have no fraud, and you know all that kind of stuff, they background check, and so on.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, so great. So it wasn't necessarily the funding, just for clarity there, you applied to the agency, and then your revenue then comes from the Medicaid program in the US, right?</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Exactly. So, yeah. There was no funding. They were like, "Hey, you've been approved. Go run with it."</p>
<p>So the funding was- we're like, "Well." You know, and a lot of funding came out of our own pocket actually to get the business up and to go.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. That's great. So this is just a whole nother type of it, and we know, in many countries around the world, some governments have funding for things like this, some doesn't. So it looks like our government, in the US, is providing some for this type of thing; which is great.</p>
<p>And Latrice, why do you think someone hasn't tried to tackle this before in Michigan, especially the Detroit area when those stats are so rough?</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
You know, I think that people have tried to tackle it. There are other agencies. It's just there's so many people dealing with the issue, that it's like having a pie, and I'm not feeling greedy enough to want the whole pie, but I just want like my slice in the pie. Meaning I know I can't help everybody, because people are trying- so I believe they've working on this, it's just such a hard [inaudible 00:08:40] population, that sometimes- that we work with, and when you don't know that you should do better, you may not know that you need the service. Right? If you're a client of ours. And it's sometimes hard to talk to people or deal with people, who may not think they need something. You know, maybe it's like they're not necessarily gonna have this issue; but then when the issue strikes, they realize, "Wow, I could have used this service." I think [inaudible 00:09:07] opportunity.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah. Right, right. So how are you doing it differently? How are you finding the potential clients then?</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
So we actually work with a lot of- we- our focus is Detroit. We do service other counties in Michigan, but we focus on Detroit, and we work with- so we're out in the community. So we might throw our own community baby shower or fair.</p>
<p>We're actually going to specific places that only have Medicaid beneficiaries. So it's- maybe if this particular healthcare- health company only takes pregnant women who are on Medicaid, we go there. We say we have this service. You know, while they're seeing you as a doctor, we're allowed to go in their house and talk to them. And so we're knocking on the doors of people, and companies, and agencies who work with the population that we're looking for to get the word out.</p>
<p>I know everyone's saying they're fine, but the statistic says they're not. So we're here to help. And so we're just really- our approach is getting with as many community agencies as possible to get the word out, and to let people know how high the stats are.</p>
<p>You know, it's funny, every time- I'm not the first agency in Michigan to do this, or the last [inaudible 00:10:33] probably- the maternal/infant health agency, but every time I talk about it people are so shocked about the rate, and that lets me know that we're not talking about it. That lets me know that it's out of sight, out of mind for a lot of us. Including myself, because I have three babies, didn't know the statistics were so high, and I live in Detroit. So I'm- technically could be a part of that statistic, you know what I mean?</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
[crosstalk 00:10:59]</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
[inaudible 00:11:00] and it was out of sight, out of mind for me, because you think that people have a true understanding of how to take care of themselves while they're pregnant, or how to take care of their babies.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, that's huge. Well, I'm so glad that you're on the street doing it and you touch on something that I think is really common to social enterprise in general. It's you gotta be out and building relationships with your potential customers and beneficiaries. It seems so obvious, but so many miss it. I think there's a lot of folks that run to the, I don't know, the place base of social enterprise thinking it's gonna be super fun, but the reality is, we're all human beings, and we all got our own issues, and we gotta get in places of relationship and trust with each other to really make real impact. At least that's my- I don't know, my Romy opinion.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
No, that's true. And it's funny, because sometimes if we just- I always tell people, if we just start talking to each other, we might not have everything in common, but we all wear shoes and-</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah-</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
We all wear clothes, and there's somethings that we can find in- a commonality to break the ice, and then offer our help through our businesses. Sometimes we just push our businesses on people that- you know, I was that people don't care how much you want, till they know how much you care.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
And- yeah. And I feel like the social enterprise including- especially what we do, is important. It's so important that we let people know that we care about them. We care about their livelihood; we care about what's going on in their house, their children, their health. As we do that they- I found that the response is usually, "Okay, I'm interested. What can you teach me? I'm extremely interested."</p>
<p>But it comes from really getting out here and doing it in all directions, just absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, so good. And before- and another time we were talking, we were talking about your business being turnkey. I think that's and interesting concept to touch on. Would you mind defining what a turnkey business is? Just in case someone doesn't grab that terminology.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah, so I do consider our business to be turnkey because we deal with Medicaid beneficiaries. We provide a service that is ready for immediate- that's what turnkey means. Basically, it's just like when you go into a convenience store. I get a bag of chips; I pay the person for the bag of chips, I walk out with the chips.</p>
<p>Impact Community Health, we are a turnkey business. We provide a service, we send our social worker, our nurse, our lactation consultants into a home and we get paid for that visit. Of course, I have to add- we make a social impact every time we go into that home; but we get paid for that visit, and we get immediate release of our funds, and we provide immediate service.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Okay. So that's really interesting, cause we were talking about- you get some turnkey, and you were thinking about ... Was it that you were thinking about building out some other services, or ...</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yeah. So I'm very community focused and one of things, when I considered becoming an entrepreneur, or going into business for myself, I was concerned about- you know we're always worried about money. Because at the end of the day, of course, we want to make a social impact, but you gotta make some money [crosstalk 00:14:26] in order to keep the business going. I'm mean that's part of business, right? And you gotta be able to pay your employees, so ... In reaching the community, I wanted to find something that was a little bit turnkey, where we got the money- we were able to generate a revenue so that we can open up other things that are of interest to us as a company.</p>
<p>So we understand- and for us, for me, in Detroit, there are issues with health or issues with education, and sometimes we find they go hand in hand. And so we decided like, okay we want to open up some type of avenue for the women that we are meeting- and not just women, people that we're meeting, getting some type of education, so they can get a job. And maybe it can take them to the next level in their life.</p>
<p>Well, in order to do that, we have to figure out- okay, we need money to do it. And so the turnkey part of it allows us to go to the next level in our business, maybe. You know, we're working on the educational center now, and somethings won't be so turnkey with the educational center; but we have the money from the [inaudible 00:15:38] maternal/infant health [inaudible 00:15:40] because it is turnkey, is able to help us to support other ventures that we're looking at doing within our company.</p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, yeah. That's great. That's so great. So, it's nice- so [inaudible 00:15:52] that's a nice model, I think. You've got one area that's turnkey, it's kinda one and done; you go in, you deliver your service, and that almost gives you the opportunity to go in then and develop other ones.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
Yes and we budget for that. So in our business, we take a certain percentage, and we put it towards things that we may not get money back from. Right?</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
We may not make a profit off of because we're dealing with a different type of population. And so- including we have a cribs program where we help to give out cribs to people because that's like- you know, when a baby dies just because they're in a bed with someone, because a person doesn't have a crib, that's really ... That's 100% preventable.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah.</p>
<p>Latrice:<br />
And so we- you know, with us wanting to get cribs in everyone's homes and make sure they have the right equipment, and the right things to take care of their baby, that's- we're not gonna get a profit off of that. We're not selling them the cribs; we're giving it to them. And the turnkey aspect allows us to do that.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Ah, okay. Alright, so that's really good. And so, I think what we've been talking about, on this podcast, is you can do that in one of two ways. You know, we always say if you've got something that you're doing because of your mission, you can say this is part of our impact, part of our cost to do it. Or sometimes people do that as, what they call, traditionally a loss leader. They're doing it to invite more sales. So that's very cool. So as social entrepreneurs you can do it one of two ways. You can say, "Hey, I do this to give it away. It's part of my mission. It's part of our integrity and our overall authenticity of our company but is also...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-latrice-mcclendon-impact-community-health-84]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2222</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ec4a3578-39fc-41d6-932b-45007703592e/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2017 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/99fbd66b-dfa9-40f4-b5d2-2b5de156b504/84latricemcclendon.mp3" length="38169824" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Latrice McClendon of Impact Community Health Thanks for tuning in to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have a friend of mine on the episode today. Latrice McClendon is quite an entrepreneur and just an all around amazing person. On this episode, we will hear about one of her businesses. She…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Bogobrush: Heather and John McDougall #83</title><itunes:title>S3: Bogobrush: Heather and John McDougall #83</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Bogobrush: Heather and John McDougall</h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hey there! This is Romy here for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  On this episode, we are going to hear from a creative brother and sister team making toothbrushes for some good causes. Fun!  And, of course, at the end, we have a great song from a Detroit artist….always one of my favorite parts of the episode.</span></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__Heather-1.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__Heather_and_John-1.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_011-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2141" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_011-1-300x200.jpg" alt="Bogobrush_011 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_011-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_011-1-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_011-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_010-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2142" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_010-1-300x200.jpg" alt="Bogobrush_010 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_010-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_010-1-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_010-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bogobrush_logo-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2143" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bogobrush_logo-1-300x59.jpg" alt="bogologo" width="300" height="59" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bogobrush_logo-1-300x59.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bogobrush_logo-1-768x152.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bogobrush_logo-1-1024x202.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_-_White-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2144" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_-_White-1-300x108.jpg" alt="Bogobrush_-_White (1)" width="300" height="108" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_-_White-1-300x108.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_-_White-1-768x276.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_-_White-1-1024x368.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_002-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2145" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_002-1-300x200.jpg" alt="Bogobrush_002 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_002-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_002-1-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_002-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__John-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2146" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__John-2-300x200.jpg" alt="Bogobrush__John (2)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__John-2-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__John-2-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush__John-2-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_006-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_006-1-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_006-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_005-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2149" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_005-1-300x200.jpg" alt="Bogobrush_005 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_005-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_005-1-768x512.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bogobrush_005-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> 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			<p><p>Hey there! This is Romy here for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  On this episode, we are going to hear from a creative brother and sister team making toothbrushes for some good causes. Fun!  And, of course, at the end, we have a great song from a Detroit artist….always one of my favorite parts of the episode.<br />
Let’s check in with Natalie Hazen on our Fun Fuel about toothbrushes….<br />
This is Natalie Hazen, and I am bringing you the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
When I think of teeth, my first thoughts go directly to food.  That probably is not a good thing, because I really like food, but nonetheless, we need to eat, and teeth help with that process.  I think of all the action that goes into eating such as biting and chomping and chewing which is actually a pretty remarkable process.<br />
So how many teeth do we have? According to Authority Dental, We have 32 teeth including wisdom teeth with 16 on top and 10 on the bottom.  And a human bite can generate a force of as great as 55 pounds on the incisors or 200 pounds on the molars.<br />
Humans have quite the chompers!<br />
Hope you enjoyed this fun fuel.  Now on to the episode.<br />
Thank you, Natalie!  She is so hilarious.  Okay, let’s listen in to my conversation with Heather and John McDougall<br />
Romy:	Alright, so welcome Heather and John McDougal from BOGO Brush to the Podcast Show!</p>
<p>John:	Yeah, thanks for having us.</p>
<p>Heather:	Hey, good to be here.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, so I'm excited to introduce you guys to our listeners. I'm so happy to have you on the show. You've got a different product for us, and we haven't had a brother and sister team on yet, so this is really fun.</p>
<p>	So let's tell our listeners about BOGO Brush, what's BOGO Brush about?</p>
<p>Heather:<br />
BOGO Brush, it's a toothbrush! It's the first toothbrush you'll actually care about, is what we like to say about it. It's an eco-friendly toothbrush, made entirely in the United States, and whenever you buy a BOGO Brush, we give a toothbrush to someone in need.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh okay, and who is that typically? What's a typical recipient of a BOGO Brush?</p>
<p>Heather:	Yeah, so we partner with low-cost health clinics in the US. So we partner with a clinic, here in Detroit, in Minnesota, and one in North Dakota, and basically, we make donations of toothbrushes to them, and they distribute the brushes to the people who are in need of them. We leave that distribution to the experts, the people who are closest to the folks who don't have access to as much oral care as others.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Super smart. So before we get in on the toothbrush, because we've had a chance to get together and look at this toothbrush, it's really amazing. Let's take everyone back of how you guys originally just even decided to do this.</p>
<p>John:<br />
Yeah, it's been quite the journey for us. We always kind of jokingly say that we were subconsciously born to design toothbrushes, so a little disclosure, our dad is actually a dentist. So we grew up floating around a dental office, sort of surrounded by that world. Neither of us thought we would ever do anything remotely close to dentistry.</p>
<p> 	I went to design school, to study how to design cars, and Heather went off to law school, and toothbrushes were the last thing on our mind. But as we were exploring the world, and sustainability, and what products we thought the world needed, we just kept coming back to this idea of a toothbrush. You know? It's something that, you wake up, you use every morning, and you use every night before you go to bed. It's sort of this moment of consciousness that you have. We thought if we could bring environmental and social awareness into somebody's daily routine, in those moments, it could be a part of a much bigger change in people's lives and in the world.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Nice. Okay, so you guys had the idea, and said, "Alright, we're gonna make a toothbrush." How did that all start to happen?</p>
<p>John:<br />
Yeah, so a lot of Google.</p>
<p>Romy:	No, right?</p>
<p>John:	I think just like any beginner entrepreneur, there's a lot more questions than there are answers. We really started exploring just what was wrong with toothbrushes today, starting that design process with everything from the form, you know if you look at a toothbrush today, there's a lot of different plastics and rubbers, and grips, and motors, and all of that leads to a product that is completely un-recyclable, so we knew we wanted to address that.</p>
<p> 	On top of that, all those grips are designed so that you hold the brush in one position in your hand, and if you have a toothbrush, you really can't manipulate your wrist, while holding an object in one position. You need to spin it like an artist holds a paintbrush, or even a dentist holds a professional dental tool. So we created this pure cylindrical form, that was really the first in the industry for a toothbrush and really created this minimal silhouette for the product.</p>
<p> 	From there, we had seen the numbers growing up in the oral health world; we knew there was 80 million people in the US, that didn't have adequate access to oral healthcare. So we knew that was a problem that we wanted to help be a part of a solution for. So for us, that meant the buy one get one model, and a way to start addressing that solution and bring awareness to those problems.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
So let's keep going about the toothbrush. Let's talk all about the toothbrush, what it's made from, 'cause I was really fascinated by the detail that you guys went into. Let's go there. We of course, for our listeners, we'll have pictures under the cover art on the website. So you guys can get pictures of the actual toothbrush, but for those that might not look it up, let's talk in detail about it.</p>
<p>John:<br />
Yeah, so as we said, we kind of landed on this pure minimalist form. That came through a lot of different studies we had. Wooden dowels, and clay models, and cutting up toothbrushes, and different pins, and...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-bogobrush-heather-john-mcdougall-83]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2138</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ee22641b-adac-46da-8c73-7ffecc6bcfec/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:09:39 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c9afbf25-3683-4edf-8892-b7ec40525f1c/83bogobrush.mp3" length="55104800" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Bogobrush: Heather and John McDougall Hey there! This is Romy here for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  On this episode, we are going to hear from a creative brother and sister team making toothbrushes for some good causes. Fun!  And, of course, at the end, we have a great song from a…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Hamilton Perkins Bags and Recycled Plastic #82</title><itunes:title>S3: Hamilton Perkins Bags and Recycled Plastic #82</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Hamilton Perkins</h2>
<p>Hamilton and his team are working with Thread International to make bags and other accessories from some of the recycled plastics in Haiti. He has very interesting story. Be sure to stay tuned for a great Detroit artist group called The Infatuations. You will feel like you are transported back in time with their great song.</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bloomingdale_s.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bloomingdale_s_SoHo.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2179" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-300x199.jpg" alt="Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-768x510.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-1024x680.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2181" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-300x199.jpg" alt="Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain (1)" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-768x510.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-1024x680.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2182" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-300x300.jpg" alt="Barbara_and_Hamilton" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-768x768.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction:<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy. I am your host for this show. We had a little gap in our postings there, sorry about that! Sometimes I am doing too many things and it catches up with me. Well, we have a great guest today from Virginia. Shout out to our listeners in Virginia!  Hamilton Perkins is the founder of a business called Hamilton Perkins. Hamilton and his team are]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Hamilton Perkins</h2>
<p>Hamilton and his team are working with Thread International to make bags and other accessories from some of the recycled plastics in Haiti. He has very interesting story. Be sure to stay tuned for a great Detroit artist group called The Infatuations. You will feel like you are transported back in time with their great song.</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bloomingdale_s.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Bloomingdale_s_SoHo.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2179" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-300x199.jpg" alt="Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-768x510.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_from_Truitier_Landfill_in_Haiti-1024x680.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2181" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-300x199.jpg" alt="Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain (1)" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-768x510.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hamilton_interview_for_Haitian_TV_from_the_first_mile_of_the_HPC_supply_chain-1-1024x680.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2182" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-300x300.jpg" alt="Barbara_and_Hamilton" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton-768x768.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Barbara_and_Hamilton.jpg 960w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction:<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy. I am your host for this show. We had a little gap in our postings there, sorry about that! Sometimes I am doing too many things and it catches up with me. Well, we have a great guest today from Virginia. Shout out to our listeners in Virginia!  Hamilton Perkins is the founder of a business called Hamilton Perkins. Hamilton and his team are working with Thread International to make bags and other accessories from some of the recycled plastics in Haiti. He has very interesting story. Be sure to stay tuned for a great Detroit artist group called The Infatuations. You will feel like you are transported back in time with their great song.</p>
<p>First, let’s check out our Fun Fuel</p>
<p>This is Natalie Hazen, and I am bringing you the Fun Fuel for this episode.</p>
<p>The popularity of recycling has had its share of bumps and bruises over the years, but who or what started this idea of recycling?   Many give credit of first recycling to none other than Mr. T-Rex and his dinosaur buddies Mr. Stegosaurus and Ms. Triceratops for decomposing and then producing various oils and gasses.  Way to go dinos!<br />
But really, in 500 BC, it was Athens, Greece who organized the first municipal dump program in the western world.  In an article written by Matt Bradbury in May 2014 for the Resource Center Powered by Busch Systems, he states that Athen’s local laws dictated that waste had to be disposed of at least one mile from the city walls.   Quite a hike.<br />
But for the United States, it was the year 1690 that the recycled paper manufacturing process was introduced.  The Rittenhouse Mill near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania made paper from fiber derived from recycled cotton and linen rags.<br />
Well, that wraps up our fun fuel and now onto the episode.</p>
<p>Thanks Natalie!  What a fun connection to the history of dinosaurs. Love it!<br />
Okay, let’s jump in to my conversation with Hamilton</p>
<p>Main Interview:<br />
Romy:	Hamilton, welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise Podcast Show.</p>
<p>Hamilton:	Thank you so much for having me, I'm really delighted to be here.</p>
<p>Romy:	Now we're on the phone together, I'm in Detroit, and you're calling from ... Is it Norfolk Virginia? That's where you're in?</p>
<p>Romy:	All right, well let's jump right into it. Let's talk about the Hamilton Perkins Collection. We know already that you're the founder, and you're the sort of visionary, so it's named after you. Can you tell us about the business?</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
Yeah, so we make bags out of recycled plastic bottles and recycled billboard vinyl. Every bag is different; every bag is unique. We source the plastic out of Haiti, and we also cut and sew the bags in Haiti as well. We started with a Kickstarter Campaign, a little bit over nine months ago. Had a $10,000 goal, we hit the goal in about a week. We had a couple hundred orders that needed to be sent out and had about a six month lead time. Took some time, we hit the business plan competition circuit; we were able to take home the grand prize of $25,000 at the Virginia Velocity Tour. From there we hit a trunk show at Bloomingdale's, we hosted a one-day sales event in New York at the 59th street location. And came back to Virginia, and shipped out hundreds of orders to our first set of customers, and turned our own website on after that at HamiltonPerkins.com.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh yeah, and thanks for ... It's always great to give a shout out for those who kind of helped you with the steps along the way. Was it the Virginia Velocity Tour and Kickstarter is two I just wrote down. It's great to let them know because those programs are essential to a lot of the startup entrepreneurs, aren't they?</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
Yeah, totally. I think for us, our situation was we wanted to make a better bag. We figured there wasn't as much selection I guess if you think about department stores, or online stores when it comes to a bag that kind of had impact, or a bag that had a purpose. By kind of collaborating, and working with different organizations, other websites that had larger audiences, we were able to figure out, "Okay, we can kind of get this in front of people that are already kind of looking for what we're making." From there it would make more sense to eventually see how can we expand our line, and get people that can help us with that, that have technical experience and basically are more subject matter experts.</p>
<p> 	Virginia Velocity Tour was great because it brought a lot of really seasoned business people together, entrepreneurs together, mentors together, and really concentrated the efforts so that we could basically tell our story, get feedback, kind of run through some rigorous kind of steps to actually pitch our businesses. It was really just a great turnout, we made great relationships from there, and we're still moving ahead from now.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow, that's powerful. Well thanks to them. And you just hit on so many of the things that so many of the entrepreneurs in the social space have to kind of walk through all of those doorways, but those relationships, if done well, really conserve you during the lifecycle of your business. It's great you gave them a shout out. Let's go back to you. I ... In the beginning, you said you are making the bags, and sourcing the materials from Haiti. I have a feeling that has something to do with the original, how this was all originally inspired. Can you take us there? What's going on in through your connection with Haiti?</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
Yeah, totally. In the beginning, the idea was how we could make a better bag? The majority of the bag, there just wasn't like as much, I guess transparency around how they were made, and who worked on them, and kind of what was happening, where the materials were coming from. We thought it would be great to tell that story, actually empower people that are traveling, while still supporting dignified income opportunities with the same product. There were a lot of forces that were happening. I mean my background coming into this, I work in banking, so I was working investment management. I got my MBA around 2014, basically was sitting in class and kind of thinking about, "How can all these different forces be happening as far as billions of plastic bottles are being thrown away every year." And at the same time know vinyl from billboard advertising was basically being thrown away because the industry was growing.</p>
<p> 	It just made more sense for us to figure out a way that we could combine those two elements that were usually a problem, and then at the end of the day making a new product altogether from scratch.</p>
<p>Romy:	Who's we?</p>
<p>Hamilton:	Yeah, so right now we have a small team. It's a team of four. We have two full timers, two interns. In the beginning, it was really myself, my wife, and basically, that was it. Now we're actually expanding so we have some help in different areas to give us a little bit of relief. We're basically still very lean, still kind of getting things going. From there it's just been building the team.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Well, that's great, that's great. How did you connect in with Haiti than?</p>
<p>Hamilton:	Yeah, so we got connected to Haiti through our partnership with Thread International. Thread International is a certified B corporation. What they do is they go to some of the poorest countries in the world, and they basically help create jobs through buying plastic. It starts basically on the landfill level, so one of the largest landfills in the Caribbean, the Truscont Landfill is basically like the first mile of the supply chain. From there, you're able to basically create entrepreneurship right there on the spot because you have so many different families that come from basically all over, from all types of backgrounds, but they're able to sell plastic, and they can earn gourde, which is the Haitian currency. And then from there, they can immediately go buy soup, or they can go provide for their families.</p>
<p> 	Then from there, the plastic is processed at a local recycling center. Recycling centers than are able to sell that to Thread, and then Thread is basically packaging it into a yarn. The yarn is processed in the states. The states from there, they're basically selling it to us. Then we cut and sew it with our billboard vinyl. Our billboard vinyl, we source that locally, and we source it out of Haiti. After an advertisement is kind of done running, it'll go out of service. There's tens of thousands of outdoor advertisements that are going up basically every year. We figure that it would be better to repurpose them or up-cycle them, and then make a creative and unique product that basically won't be the same as the very next product. We were able to combine that.</p>
<p> 	Then, we sent it back to Haiti so that it could be cut and sewn in a factory. Our factory is not too far from Porter Prince, and basically, it started with about 20 employees, and now they've grown to over 100 employees. I think they still had expansion goals, so they'll probably expand another 20%. We recently just got back from Haiti, and had a chance to kind of walk the full kind of supply chain from the first mile, to the cut and sew factory, and then after that, it comes back here to us in the states. Then when customers go to our website, HamiltonPerkins.com, then we ship it to them directly to their door.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow. Thanks for walking us through that. We have so many questions that came in about supply chain when you're trying to address fair trade and create jobs in other parts of the country and the world. I think sometimes ...</p>
<p>Romy:	I think sometimes folks get a little too hung up on, "Where are the jobs being created?" I have one of these philosophies of like, "If you can help somebody be self-sustainable with their family by giving them a way to make an income, I think sometimes we got just to understand that whether it's here or somewhere else, it's good." Like it's good.</p>
<p>Hamilton:	Totally. I mean if you think about it, it's like, it is the poorest country in the western hemisphere, and so by making an impact there the thought process is, "Can't we make an impact overall quicker?" because it's going to be hard to sort of incrementally make impact in places where things are already going well. My whole career's been like centered around that, I always found the biggest problem, even when I worked in corporate America like I was always trying to get the project that basically had the most potential upside. We feel good about what is happening, and we really are invested and look forward to continuing to invest more.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, that's so good. I love that, the most potential upside. Having come out of the investment field that resonates with me with this kind of work we're all doing, that's so great that you put it that way. Let's stay lingering on this social piece for a minute before we go back over to the bags and the products themselves. What kinds of things, Hamilton, are you noticing from a social impact? Because people loosely use this word, impact, all over the place now, it's sort of the new buzzword. So, I know we've talked about, we've got some job creation going on both locally and in Haiti, let's go back to Haiti for one more minute, what kinds of things are you noticing when you visit Haiti that maybe even surprised you a little bit? Or a pleasant outcome from you using ... You said, "Mile one, where you're gathering the materials all the way to the factory there." What are some of the observations you've noticed just from a social impact side?</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
I think working with the team over at Thread has been pretty eye opening. I got a chance to kind of connect with one of the field managers down in Haiti, his name's Richardson, and he really just kind of shared these stories with me about just the impact that's happening in the landfills and just basically the opportunity, because it's really tough with unemployment being such a high number in Haiti compared to the US. I don't know the exact stat on it, don't quote me, I want to say it's maybe closer to 2/3 of the population maybe, with unemployment.</p>
<p> 	So by the time you really digest that and then you're looking at kind of the opportunity, he really shared just the story of a woman in her [inaudible 00:13:10] and how she came to a particular landfill and she didn't have anything at that point. So when she came there, she was able to basically create a job for herself. She created a business for herself out of plastics. There was a couple there that they're were like she was basically already doing the collection center like she had everything going, but eventually, her husband got into it. So now he's got his own business that's like collecting plastic, and from there they're able to support their families.</p>
<p> 	I think it's like those stories like on the ground like that that it's definitely on the social impact side. You would never kind of, I guess, imagine or know until you actually go and talk to someone that's actually working there, and for me, that was really eye-opening, and it's like ... I guess that was like last week this time actually is like when we were there, so it's totally something that we're excited about the fact that we can continue to do it because we'll be able to create more opportunities and from there impact more people.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, when you go visit those places, and you get on the ground as parts of your supply chain, I feel like there's an eye-opening moment. It's either going to make you stick closer to that supply chain member, or it's going to make you walk and seek another, but it's so important for us as entrepreneurs, no matter what you're selling to the public, making, even if it's service providers, really understanding who all of your vendors are, who all those people are, because it can really keep the fire burning, if I'm going to use our analogies, for you as an entrepreneur on the why, right?</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
Oh, absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	It really grounds you on the why of what you're doing and why you're picking those people.</p>
<p>Hamilton:	Without a doubt. It's really a ... It's this kind of a fascinating kind of overall process, from start to finish, and I'm not just saying that because I work at the company [inaudible 00:15:24], like seeing it kind of the evolution of it is, it's incredible now what can be done through just internet and people that care and people that are basically brave and have courage actually to do it. So we're thankful.</p>
<p>Yeah, and you know, I think this is a wonderful place, social enterprise in general, I think, is a wonderful place to give yourself a good excuse to go explore those things because we are not always looking to find the least expensive provider. Most social entrepreneurs, I think at least most that I've met, of the thousands I've met and work with that their why really is grounded and they're why becomes stronger as they seek out different partners for their supply chain or service providers, any of those pieces. Then we're not always picking the least expensive. we're picking the folks that we feel we have a good relationship with and we can see this impact in their lives. And I just wanted to pause on that, that you've been doing this, and encourage anyone else who's out there listening to, don't be afraid to be brave about the choices you make. If you feel it's right and a match for your company missionary, go ahead and do that. It paves the way; cheapest is sometimes what has caused some of our problems in this space.</p>
<p>Hamilton:<br />
Yeah, it's always...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-hamilton-perkins-bags-recycled-plastic-82]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2175</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/63ef9170-8e1d-4869-ae1c-0e150e162095/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 12:30:04 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/5cbd97b3-7167-42e4-9d38-f163f17ee968/82hamiltonperkins.mp3" length="54899744" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:07</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Hamilton Perkins Hamilton and his team are working with Thread International to make bags and other accessories from some of the recycled plastics in Haiti. He has very interesting story. Be sure to stay tuned for a great Detroit artist group called The Infatuations. You will feel like you are transported back in time with…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Mile High Expansion in Denver Manufacturing Workshop – Episode #81</title><itunes:title>S3: Mile High Expansion in Denver Manufacturing Workshop – Episode #81</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Mile High Workshop</h2>
<p>What&#8217;s going on in Denver social enterprise manufacturing these days?!</p>
<p>Romy catches up with Andy Magel of the Mile High Workshop manufacturer in Denver, Colorado.</p>
<p>Great song the end!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MHW_PUP-037-1.jpeg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/WorkShop_Handcrafted.png"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2070" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-300x225.jpeg" alt="ButcherLogo2 (1)" width="300" height="225" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-300x225.jpeg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-768x576.jpeg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1.jpeg 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2071" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-300x199.jpg" alt="irma_alyssa2 (1)" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-768x509.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-1024x678.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1.jpg 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2072" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1-300x200.jpg" alt="VR_Naturals-1 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1.jpg 650w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Hi there!  This is Romy and welcome back to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. I want to give a shout-out to our friends in Haiti, France, and Canada. Please reach out to us on the website. We would love to hear what is happening in your communities, and, maybe even tell your story on our show.<br />
So, on this episode, we catch back up with Andy Magel in Denver, Colorado and the Mile High Workshop. Many of you may remember that Denver is known as the Mile High city as it is one mile above sea level. There is a vibrant community of social enterprise in Denver, and Andy is leading the way with his amazing maker space and job creation. Stay tuned at the end for a song from a Detroit artist.<br />
Let’s, first, see what Luke has for our Fun Fuel...</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
(no transcript)</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke, wooden domes – you just don’t think things like that are possible without steel and like materials. Let’s jump into the update with Andy on his Mile High Workshop in Colorado. </p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Andy :	 Glad to be back. I was looking; it's been over a year since we last talked and man a lot has happened. We've moved....]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Mile High Workshop</h2>
<p>What&#8217;s going on in Denver social enterprise manufacturing these days?!</p>
<p>Romy catches up with Andy Magel of the Mile High Workshop manufacturer in Denver, Colorado.</p>
<p>Great song the end!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MHW_PUP-037-1.jpeg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/WorkShop_Handcrafted.png"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2070" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-300x225.jpeg" alt="ButcherLogo2 (1)" width="300" height="225" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-300x225.jpeg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-768x576.jpeg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ButcherLogo2-1.jpeg 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2071" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-300x199.jpg" alt="irma_alyssa2 (1)" width="300" height="199" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-300x199.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-768x509.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1-1024x678.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/irma_alyssa2-1.jpg 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2072" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1-300x200.jpg" alt="VR_Naturals-1 (1)" width="300" height="200" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1-300x200.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/VR_Naturals-1-1.jpg 650w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Hi there!  This is Romy and welcome back to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. I want to give a shout-out to our friends in Haiti, France, and Canada. Please reach out to us on the website. We would love to hear what is happening in your communities, and, maybe even tell your story on our show.<br />
So, on this episode, we catch back up with Andy Magel in Denver, Colorado and the Mile High Workshop. Many of you may remember that Denver is known as the Mile High city as it is one mile above sea level. There is a vibrant community of social enterprise in Denver, and Andy is leading the way with his amazing maker space and job creation. Stay tuned at the end for a song from a Detroit artist.<br />
Let’s, first, see what Luke has for our Fun Fuel...</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
(no transcript)</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke, wooden domes – you just don’t think things like that are possible without steel and like materials. Let’s jump into the update with Andy on his Mile High Workshop in Colorado. </p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Andy :	 Glad to be back. I was looking; it's been over a year since we last talked and man a lot has happened. We've moved. We've expanded. We've grown and so yeah happy to kind of pick up, and if you have anything, in particular, you want to know let me know, and I'll just come give you a quick rundown but when we last talked we were in about 8,000 square feet, and we've recently moved to a new building that we're occupying about 12,000 square feet of. A much more industrial space with back doors and these types of things, higher ceilings for vertical storage, and it's a much better space for us, and that's been a good move that's allowed us to kind of take on some new projects and grow with some projects. The last time we talked I think we were doing woodworking and sewing and I can't remember if down with the grid quick started up our packaging and fulfillment side of things yet?</p>
<p>Romy:	No, it was more like etching. I think there was a little bit of glass etching starting or just you were dabbling with it I think sort of that.</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah, I was still doing that laser etching and cutting still kind of a nice accessory to a lot of the other stuff that we're doing. But we were doing the fastest growing thing that we started even since we've talked last was packaging and fulfillment, and so we do all the fulfillment and shipping for a company called the Coors. They're a subscription tampon business actually based in San Francisco. A really great company and really doing a lot of growth and so we do all their packing and shipping, and we also do the same type of services with them with some local businesses here, a glass company and a pillow company.</p>
<p>	And that's been a really good area for us to provide job opportunities and training and we're really excited about what's coming with that, and we got some stuff come down the pipe too. We're actually just about to launch a new partnership Coors Tech which is the ceramics side of kind of the Coors family in Colorado. Obviously, a big family name and Coors Beer is probably pretty well known across the country.</p>
<p>	But they have a manufacturing side of the business. Technically it's a separate business, but a ceramics and they are placing equipment in our shop that we will be trained to operate and manufacture for them. And then we'll use that training as an opportunity to prepare people for jobs at Coors Tech, and so they'll graduate our training model into kind of above entry level positions at Coors Tech, and that's something that we're very excited about.</p>
<p>Romy:	Hey, Andy as you moved into this topic... I think so many entrepreneurs want to know how did you land on starting to move into this packing and fulfillment and how are you getting your customers for this? Is this somewhat a happy accident or was it intentional? We have so many questions that come in about expanding. Would you mind talking to us about that a little bit?</p>
<p>Andy :	No, that's good. I think everyone probably has a different approach there. For us, I think happy accident is a really excellent way to describe it. It's all been very organic for us and pretty relationship based. And so in the last two, two and a half years we've worked at well over 100 customers and those have almost entirely all been kind of inbound referral and just kind of natural partnerships that have come along. And we're just getting to the point where we are big enough to where we're going to become intentional about going on finding those relationships. But our growth has come just from "Hey, here is a friend. They're starting this thing. They're looking for a partner. Do you guys want to try it?" And we've just said yes a lot, and it certainly hasn't all worked. I can tell you that. But what was worked has stuck, and it's been a really good fit for us.</p>
<p>Romy:	Part of it I just know even from our own company here. It's like part of it is how do you price yourself for expansion? I think I was wondering if you could talk to us a little bit about that. And I am the numero uno guilty party of this. I will price services or products just over across a certain profit margin, but I don't have my eye on expansion, and so I can default to "Oh, I just want to give him a good deal." How are you handling that kind of stuff specific to expansion?</p>
<p>Andy :	Now, that's very true. I think there is a level of confidence that comes as you exist and do a good job. Because we've been guilty of the same thing for sure. The first time you take on a job, you're just happy that somebody said yes and that you've been given this opportunity to earn that and to prove yourself. And when you establish a little bit of a track record, and you do a good job then I think your confidence grows, and your willingness to say like, "Okay, now we don't just want to survive and have the opportunity to do something but we want to grow, and we want to create more opportunity."</p>
<p>	Yeah, I mean pricing is a critical part of that, and it feels like a little bit of a moving target in terms of kind of what that pricing is and how that looks, and it definitely adds and flows what kind of the project because they're also unique. But I think we have established ourselves to the point now where we know we can execute. We know we can do a good job. We're going to be a good partner for somebody and that allows us to have the confidence to price things in a way that will allow us to continue growing and to fuel that growth.</p>
<p>Romy:	It's such a good word. Building up your confidence by delivering good services.</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah, because if anyone charges a premium on day one and you can't deliver. That's just not going to be a good recipe.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right [inaudible 00:06:47] false.</p>
<p>Andy :	Right right.</p>
<p>Romy:	It sounds like you're still offering services to perhaps a startup entrepreneur but all the way up to now to a potential client like Coors. That's extraordinary and so great. Are you still going to offer some of those services to that startup entrepreneur?</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah, we really like having a nice mix. Because everyone has different priorities and things that they need. Our core mission as job training program and so people come in, and they may or may not have skills in the area that they are going to be working in. So we need kind of a wide range of products so that somebody on day one can contribute to a project. And then as they grow the projects that they're working on can kind of grow and skills required as well. And so we love having kind of that mix because it gives us flexibility and that we're a little bit more diversified in that way that as a small entrepreneur kind of and they start something if it doesn't work, it goes away. They're not our only customer. We've got somebody like Coors or someone onboard who we can lean on for stability of the program, so we really like having a little bit of both. It creates a nice mix and a good thing on our production side of things.</p>
<p>Romy:	There is always the intrigue of the energy of the entrepreneurs too that brings you to this level.</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah, and kind of the cross collaboration that can happen there. There is a lot of fun kind of side projects that have come out of people's interactions and just support that comes in. Our customers will meet each other in the shop and who knows kind of what can come from that relationship in off itself which is always really fun.</p>
<p>Romy:	Are you noticing a certain type of employees excelling in your program or is it all over the board? What I'm really asking is, is there a certain demographic or something that people with various employment or something that's working in Colorado that you're noticing really excels in this environment?</p>
<p>Andy :	The broad answer is like anybody who really wants to take advantage of the opportunity is going to excel. And we look at our numbers and the data behind everything. Pretty much anybody who sticks with us and works through the program is going to leave to a good job and they mostly likely going to be keeping that job after they've left and so if somebody wants to they're going to do well. One of the things that we really like about our model is that since we do have different areas, packing, and shipping, woodwork, and sewing. If somebody comes in and the areas they've been [inaudible 00:09:47] into really isn't a great fit. We've got the opportunity to shift them around. Somebody comes in and is working with saws in the wood shop, and it turns out there just and not really a saws person. They can make the shift to packing and shipping and more kind of a general ware ...</p>
<p>Andy :	Make the shift to packing and shipping and working with general warehouse type work and that might be a really good fit. And so really, we've got enough flexibility in the type of work that we're doing to where we can typically find something that's going to be a good fit for somebody.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, that's tremendous. I love this idea too of the continuum of skill building onto the employer like you described at Coors Tech. That's pretty cool. I think there's always this element of providing hope to those who feel like they haven't had a path even if they might not know how that's going to walk out. Just knowing that there's potential paths into more development I think just sometimes knowing that that's available changes a person's mindset and heart.</p>
<p>Andy :	Oh yeah. It's so cool to see somebody come into the sew for example, never touched a sewing machine, then realize that they're actually pretty good at it and it's a viable career path. We have several cut and sew shops in the Denver area and there's not a lot of training that's happening to prepare potential [inaudible 00:11:12] shops and stuff. Its been able to establish some good relationships there and help support people as they transition into those types of jobs and when somebody learns that they're good at something that's a viable career path I mean there is a lot of hope that comes with that for sure.</p>
<p>Romy:	And in Colorado, I know you're in the Denver area, is skilled trade a gap like it is in some of the other states? In Michigan where we do most of our work it's a huge gap. But is it similar in Denver?</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah, absolutely. I think it's really a nationwide thing. You're just seeing this shortage of people who know how to do skilled work with their hands and so if somebody can come in and if we have the opportunity to teach them how to do that, there's no shortage of opportunities. Denver specifically, construction is huge right now. The city is just blowing up and so if you can do quality woodworking you can kind of pick what version of it you want to do. There's just so much opportunity in all that right now. So there is a gap and we're really to be able to kind of play a role in providing some of the training for that.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my gosh, that's huge. It's huge. It's neat where you just said woodworking, would that include of all kinds of things up to I guess carpentry?</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah. I mean when it comes down to it it's all about those basic skills of knowing how to use a tape measure and operate a saw safely and put things together and when you learn those basic skills you can take those anywhere. So we make a wide variety of things in the wood shop that require a diverse skills to be developed and so that when somebody's graduating the goal is that they can kind of look at what's most interesting to them in that field and have at least a base understanding of how to pursue that.</p>
<p>Romy:	Andy, how are you handling the management of so many people? Well let's back up. How many I guess average folks do you have on the floor at the time or employees do you have average on a day?</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah. I mean if everybody shows up we're pushing somewhere around 20 people right now. And that's not necessarily just folks in the training program. That's kind of the whole thing. So we've got a team of social workers and shop directors and these kinds of things, so there's probably 10 to 12 people on the program side of things right now. But as an organization we've been growing for sure.</p>
<p>Romy:	How do you ... are you following a model on how to build up sort of oversight and management? I think this is an interesting intersection for social entrepreneurs when you do have ... whether you're for profit or nonprofit, where you have some programmatic elements of it where like you said, you might have some social workers or the life skills going at the same time as real work that needs to happen to turn your business model around.</p>
<p>Andy :	Oh yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	I think there's a lot of people trying to figure out, and most of us are doing it by making mistakes actually of how do you find the right types of oversight when you've got that dual nature going on. How are you learning about that in hiring oversight?</p>
<p>Andy :	Some of that is definitely coming through just experience and trial and error, but I think to the degree, the most that we can we're trying to really lean on other people's experience and so we've got people kind of in the Denver community who are lending their insights and expertise maybe from the business world. So kind of mentoring from the business side of things. But then we've also had this really incredible opportunity, I don't remember if this had happened when we last talked, but we're a member of the social innovation fund portfolio through REDF which is an organization based in San Francisco, and that has really opened up a lot of doors for us to access knowledge from other organizations who've been around a lot longer than we have, so we've been able to learn from them as well.</p>
<p>	So we're kind of trying to kick the brains collectively of the for profit and the social enterprise and kind of nonprofit sector and learn from the folks who've gone ahead of us, and that's been extremely helpful and it's really helped us cheat the growth curve a little bit by kind of pulling some stuff in that's maybe a little bit beyond our years which has been very, very valuable.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, it's so good. So are you still finding now as people are coming to you by referral or word of mouth, what do you finding right now is the attraction point? Is it more the job training program or the type of work you're doing? Is it possible to take a pulse on what's happening at this minute?</p>
<p>Andy :	Yeah. It's hard to say. It's hard to pull it all apart, I think because the truth is we are very much all of those and we don't exist, those things don't exist in vacuums and so always curious to hear from our customers. I think a lot of them are driven by the simple fact that they need a job done and they need to find somebody to help them do it and our mission can sometimes be that carry on prop that kind of helps them say like, "I'm going to follow up with these guys and then reach out to them." But it is typically I think just kind of a market need that we exist to fill. If somebody has a product and it needs to be sewn then they need somebody to do that, and we're happy to be the ones that do that and if they can tell a little bit more interesting story as a business because of our relationship then we're really happy for that too.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's powerful. I feel like that's a truth that I keep landing on is you still got to fill a need, do it really well. There's always that mission story around it that I think just elevates the attraction of your...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-mile-high-expansion-denver-manufacturing-workshop-episode-81]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2067</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9152cdb7-9e17-4c99-b4c0-a705d94bdadc/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:30:42 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c2cfcf7f-33ab-4768-ba9d-3387a092f674/81milehighworkshop.mp3" length="56928992" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Mile High Workshop What’s going on in Denver social enterprise manufacturing these days?! Romy catches up with Andy Magel of the Mile High Workshop manufacturer in Denver, Colorado. Great song the end!   For Full Transcript   MILE HIGH WORKSHOP WEBSITE More Links Jump over to the website for the podcast at www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com  Give us…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Job Creation &amp; Impact Investing with Don Lee #80</title><itunes:title>S3: Job Creation &amp; Impact Investing with Don Lee #80</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Job Creation &amp; Impact Investing with Don Lee</h2>
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<p>Today, we are moving to the Impact Investing Inglenook to talk to Don Lee. Don has been quite a visionary around social enterprise local investing and has begun to change the way many people are investing in the Detroit area. His has passionate rationale and incredible enthusiasm – It is quite contagious actually. We have a very special surprise artist at the end of this episode for your listening pleasure so stay tuned!</p>
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Hi there!  This is Romy and welcome back to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise.  Today, we are moving to the Impact Investing Inglenook to talk to Don Lee. Don has been quite a visionary around social enterprise local investing and has begun to change the way many people are investing in the Detroit area. His has passionate rationale and incredible enthusiasm – It is quite contagious actually. We have a very special surprise artist at the end of this episode for your listening pleasure so stay tuned! Before we jump in, let’s see what Luke has for our Fun Fuel…</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
Don Lee makes a huge impact on businesses with his investing, much like how meteors make huge impacts on earth itself. The world's largest crater is located in Australia, before impact, it split into two pieces, each 6 miles across. This created two craters covering around 250 miles of Australia's beautiful countryside.<br />
The second biggest crater is located in South Africa. The meteor was between 5 and 10 kilometers and was traveling around 20 kilometers per second. That is around 12 miles a second!<br />
Thank you for tuning into this fun fuel. Enjoy the episode!</p>
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Thanks, Luke! I love this idea of thinking about Impact Investing making large scale impact. That just gave me a different visual. In some ways, impact investing has turned the financial markets a little sideways when it comes to local investing. Many said it couldn’t be done, but, as you will hear from Don, it is happening right now!  Let me not delay one more minute and let’s jump over to my conversation with Don…</p>
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Don:	Romy, thanks for having me. Man, it's been ... it's just been so cool what's been happening the last couple of years when we connected and what we're doing with, in the city of Detroit. It's just amazing, creating over 44 jobs in three entities, that we invested in with your leadership and help. It's been great so thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Romy:	Gosh, I feel like, I'm just an administrator here, you've been part of the visionary and I think it's been, I'm glad you said only a couple of years because I think it's been closer to four years that we've been doing this. But that's good, time flies.</p>
<p>Don:	Scary.</p>
<p>Romy:	I know. Hey, you know what? This has been awesome to have you on here because I've been wanting to have you one here, we get so many questions around impact investing and you are a walking example of somebody who kind of caught the bug a little bit, had the idea, and you've journeyed from actually putting your money into it, both direct and private equity funds that you help design and now help oversee. You, sort of, we'd say, officially caught the bug for impact investing so I'd love to just start at the beginning and take the listeners back to how did you even become interested in kind of local impact type investing. Do you remember?</p>
<p>Don:	Yeah, well if you go...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Job Creation &amp; Impact Investing with Don Lee</h2>
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<p>Today, we are moving to the Impact Investing Inglenook to talk to Don Lee. Don has been quite a visionary around social enterprise local investing and has begun to change the way many people are investing in the Detroit area. His has passionate rationale and incredible enthusiasm – It is quite contagious actually. We have a very special surprise artist at the end of this episode for your listening pleasure so stay tuned!</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Hi there!  This is Romy and welcome back to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise.  Today, we are moving to the Impact Investing Inglenook to talk to Don Lee. Don has been quite a visionary around social enterprise local investing and has begun to change the way many people are investing in the Detroit area. His has passionate rationale and incredible enthusiasm – It is quite contagious actually. We have a very special surprise artist at the end of this episode for your listening pleasure so stay tuned! Before we jump in, let’s see what Luke has for our Fun Fuel…</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi, this is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
Don Lee makes a huge impact on businesses with his investing, much like how meteors make huge impacts on earth itself. The world's largest crater is located in Australia, before impact, it split into two pieces, each 6 miles across. This created two craters covering around 250 miles of Australia's beautiful countryside.<br />
The second biggest crater is located in South Africa. The meteor was between 5 and 10 kilometers and was traveling around 20 kilometers per second. That is around 12 miles a second!<br />
Thank you for tuning into this fun fuel. Enjoy the episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke! I love this idea of thinking about Impact Investing making large scale impact. That just gave me a different visual. In some ways, impact investing has turned the financial markets a little sideways when it comes to local investing. Many said it couldn’t be done, but, as you will hear from Don, it is happening right now!  Let me not delay one more minute and let’s jump over to my conversation with Don…</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Don:	Romy, thanks for having me. Man, it's been ... it's just been so cool what's been happening the last couple of years when we connected and what we're doing with, in the city of Detroit. It's just amazing, creating over 44 jobs in three entities, that we invested in with your leadership and help. It's been great so thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Romy:	Gosh, I feel like, I'm just an administrator here, you've been part of the visionary and I think it's been, I'm glad you said only a couple of years because I think it's been closer to four years that we've been doing this. But that's good, time flies.</p>
<p>Don:	Scary.</p>
<p>Romy:	I know. Hey, you know what? This has been awesome to have you on here because I've been wanting to have you one here, we get so many questions around impact investing and you are a walking example of somebody who kind of caught the bug a little bit, had the idea, and you've journeyed from actually putting your money into it, both direct and private equity funds that you help design and now help oversee. You, sort of, we'd say, officially caught the bug for impact investing so I'd love to just start at the beginning and take the listeners back to how did you even become interested in kind of local impact type investing. Do you remember?</p>
<p>Don:	Yeah, well if you go really far back, I came to the state of Michigan or the great city of Detroit with minus $5,000 in my pocket. So I would be ... I wouldn't consider myself wealthy and my net worth wasn't above zero so ... But what I do, and when I reflect back and I start reflecting back after mission trips that there were so many wonderful men and women that came into my life that really helped me grow as a human being with their time, treasure, and talent that I have been able and put in a position to be able to give back. I, Romy, as you know, I do a lot of mission trips around the world and I would go there with the whole attitude I'm looking to help those folks, which I hope I did, but I always come back changed saying, "Wow, I feel better about myself now than I did when I left and what's changed."</p>
<p>	How I got the bug was, I have been a C Level executive for the last 23 years from CEO, CMO, to COO and I wanted to use my gifts and as I read a book called, "Job Wars" by Jim Clifton of Gallop that just turned me on and I said, "You know what? We got to create jobs if we really want to turn our country around, not saying it's bad, but if we really want to mobilize people we need to give them hope." I think with jobs gives a whole thing of confidence and purpose and that's when my journey started. Then I met you and met my partner in crime Jeff [inaudible 00:03:29], not in crime literally, but we came together and developed this fund which just knowing what we've done in the past. Not taking anybody else's model and putting it together to mobilize dollars, mobilize people to impact under resourced communities.</p>
<p>	That's where the bug started. I feel pretty good about myself for helping another individual or another human being no matter who they are.</p>
<p>Romy:	And then how did you get the idea Don to invite others to the table saying, "Hey, let's get a bunch of our social circle together and try to do this together." How did you get locked on to that? Was that also from kind of mission work, team work?</p>
<p>Don:	Right, and I look around ... we have a really ... I go to a really cool church so I've got a really cool community of people that I hang out and I'm like, "How do I mobilize these folks? What can I do to get these guys and gals involved?" The one thing I always know, you got to put your money where your mouth is and there had to be some type of commitment dollar wise to get people's commitment in time wise.</p>
<p>	So just through talking with people, understanding ... Just saying, "How would you like to mobilize your time, treasure, and talent as a C level executive or a director of manufacturing and marketing? We could use you. Would you want to invest in other human beings, just like other human beings invested in you in your career. I want to give you that same opportunity." And that's how impact investing started.</p>
<p>	A lot of people do the talk but until you write a check, that's a whole different ... that gain goes up 1,000 percent. So that's where we got money involved.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, that's so true. You put some money down on the deal and that changes the game. You guys were really successful, I think in that first one we got 40 investors. Was that surprising to you? Or was that a smaller number than you were trying to get?</p>
<p>Don:	Well, of course we wanted way more, we set big goals, however, we were surprised by how many people didn't really understand social enterprises three years ago, four year ago and today it started with everyone asking me about it now. Also, you have to understand there's early adopters and people who were early adopters really weren't so that was disappointing but now they're starting to come around.</p>
<p>	What turned around for people listening to the story, and Romy you're a big part of this, we put an unbelievable platform of accountability and transparency. We also built the why, how, and what for what the fund is going to be. The why, was just a simple to engage and empower leaders, who I was talking to, to lead social change and provide economic hope. That was our why. Now I didn't say what we're going to invest in or what we're going to do, we just wanted something bigger than ourselves. I think that was the impetus of people saying, "I'm in, I'm in, I'm in". And we raised closed to, I think, around a million dollars and then we, through your team we syndicated other foundations and now we've had another round to raise more equity and did more stake into our enterprises.</p>
<p>	So I think it's the accountability, transparency, and the heart that we showed that really attracted our first 48 investors.</p>
<p>Romy:	And now that I ... thanks for bringing all that up. This accountability thing became far more important, I think, than any of us envisioned, I think, because we all came out of careers that required accountability that maybe brought some of that personality to it. But I can tell ... I can tell you myself, I really didn't have a feel for how much non accountability there was in the market place of impact investing. Can we press into that a little bit more? What has that done for your personally in terms of either reporting or how has that affected you in terms of a comfort as an individual investor?</p>
<p>Don:	Makes me sleep at night. What we promised in those meetings, raising funds, is all come true. So we basically said, "You're going to have a document to sign, you're going to be able to see our books online, you're going to see assessments on a regular basis of our identities we are investing in. We build a board, we build an investment board." Because I'm like, "Who would give me money?" I'm asking ... I'm competing against a lot of other companies, foundations, and great causes for money and so I really felt in being an engineer ... I just wanted to make sure that people knew we had a governance around our dream that would give people the freedom to invest. That has really paid off for the enterprises we're investing in because people now have trust because they see the system working.</p>
<p>Romy:	And they see the number of jobs it created. You guys decided a track wage based creation jobs all that ... I noticed from talking to some of the investors that is just a magnetic speaking point for them.</p>
<p>Don:	Right because remember our investors are either business owners or folks that like to grow things, right? Grow business, see people succeed. That has been ... that is immeasurable right there, bam. And then another measurable is cleaning up blight in an area we'd invest in. Seeing people graduate from the job and go to another job. So when you can show our whole goal is creating jobs and when we're hitting that KPI, it's not easy either, but when you're hitting it, people now say, "I've spent my ... I've invested my money wisely." Again it comes back to governance, reporting out. Every six months, we used to do it every quarter but now every six months we do a letter to our investors. Every six months we have our investors come together for a networking opportunity with our investees and our investors, they get to meet each other because they are people with a common purpose. So they really enjoy that. We have a lot of touch points to make sure people are part of the journey.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, that's been a real piece, getting ... allowing relationships to happen and then transitioning over, we hear so much commentary around, "I'd like to do something in impacting investing but I only want to do things that have technology that could scale ..." Some of the early businesses that you guys have decided to invest in, I guess the world would call them regular mom and pop business that may not have an opportunity to scale. How has that affected your thoughts as an impact investor?</p>
<p>Don:	Keep is simple. If I can understand or investors can understand it, we invest in it. You still need [inaudible 00:11:17] the meat and potato type work. It's not far-fetched. Sewing business, a hydroponics business, a jewelry business we can all touch, feel, and get involved with. If we're designing software apps and all that kind of stuff, which I have a lot of people asking me, I just push them off to other funding mechanisms, can't see that, can't touch it, can't make an impact. I'm sure the app will make an impact for the purpose that it's intended. This is ... I [inaudible 00:11:51] farm every week for the last month or so spend time with that order helping him maneuver through some complicated growth issues. I've got other people in our group where we do call to action that can actually go to a facility, sit down with the owner and be part of the journey. You know, being an owner is lonely and so they have somebody to ... have a sound board and think things through.</p>
<p>	So I believe we'll continue to invest in the meat and potato kind of opportunities. It could be a laundry, a laundromat that's in a area that of economic plight that needs to create jobs. As long as there is a need and they need capital, we want to be able to provide it. Capital is hard to get, you know Romy, through the banks, there are so many [inaudible 00:12:52] and there's not much patient capital so our capital has been great because as we syndicate and your team syndicated other funds, we've used our capital as kind of helping payoff some of our other capital we got from other sources.</p>
<p>	We're patient, we take the long view here, the year six, seven, eight year view.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Don:	Which helps.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, I'm glad you're touching on this because so many questions we answer from other potential investors are a fear of, "Oh gosh, if it's not hydro high scale, I won't get my money back." And that is not true so far these business that are easy to understand, as you said, are actually on track to do the seven and eight percent. Would you speak to maybe a myth that's out there that just because ... these can make money too.</p>
<p>Don:	Our country's built on small business.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Don:	95% of our country is small business, actually 95% percent of the world is small business. There are returns, and I'll tell you what, I love working in these small business because we can now control costs and we get our business mile done then we start scaling and that's what we're doing with two of our businesses. We've got the model done, we've got the reporting out, and now they're starting to scale because you could see that they have money behind them and they also have their processes proved out.</p>
<p>	So what do I ... when I say ... when I'm with ... I set the expectation when we're raising dollars that this is ... what did I say back ... high reward?</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, high risk low return, high reward.</p>
<p>Don:	Yeah, so I say, "High risk" So then you automatically think 'high risk investing' you automatically think 'high reward'. So I'm like, "No, no, it's high risk, low return, but high reward." I added a third. I think we just added a third. But it gets people to think like, "Listen the purpose is to create jobs in our under resourced community. We're going to do the best we can with our background, business background, to allow these folks to succeed." Right? But there's always the chance. So the people going into this aren't blind. We coined another term, "Blame the philanthropic heart with the investment mentality."</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, that has been ... and you created a graph that we all use now, I think it's on our website, because it was just such a simple visual that is got people centered on the purpose of the dollars.</p>
<p>Don:	Yeah and remember, we had no idea what we were doing. So we were putting this together but it just seemed right and you're right it's the two circles and the arrow. One circle has the philanthropic investing and the other has your typical investing or mutual fund or whatever. You put those two circles, they collide and we call that opportunity for social change.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Don:	Again, high risk, low return, high reward because we're engaging time, treasure, and talent and that's the cool part of what we're doing.</p>
<p>Romy:	So on the time and talent because it's really unusual what your team has done and I know it's both been a learning experience but it's help to protect the investment for the other, the investment members in the fund who maybe don't have the time or type of job where they can be released to go and consult. How important is it, in your opinion, that [inaudible 00:16:59] investors get involved in local business and if you wouldn't mind, part two, how important is the coach ability of the recipient of the ... the owner's of the portfolio company?</p>
<p>Don:	Yeah, I really believe everyone has its time so we don't all rush in to give our time. We do call to action when there may be accounting question or manufacturing or a build out, we have a diverse amount of people that have different talents that will do call out to use their time. And I'm not talking about an unbelievable amount of time but just enough to get the entrepreneur back on track.</p>
<p>	So, it just depends on where you're at in life and what you opportunity to be open and how much time you have. Like, right now, I'm kind of between careers so I'm spending time catching up making sure this is all ... I can use my time, treasure, and talent effectively. But I just think everyone is participated at some time in the last three to four years with their time and talent. It may be a half hour, it could have been eight hours but again it goes back to, you may go in grumbling but you come out smiling because you just helped another human being in a community.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Don:	The second part of your question, I just got carried away with that Romy. What was the second part?</p>
<p>Romy:	On the coach ability of the management time or the owner of the business. There's got to be a certain amount of openness for them to be coached, right?</p>
<p>Don:	Absolutely, that's why we have an investment board and they have to present in front of the investment board and that's one of the attributes we look at. Is this ... what's going to be the impact? Does this person have a plan that could be scalable and a plan that could be viable? Then the big thing is, can they be coachable? Can we come walk into the facility and help them? That's a big part of it. For those that are listening that are, want to start a social enterprise business please welcome help because that ... you learn and we're all looking for life learners. I think we're all life learners if you accept that fact.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and I think ... so our firm of course, we do a lot of the accountability reporting and so often see where things are starting to go off track and we know, statistically, that those entrepreneurs and teams that are willing to receive help and coaching do far better than those that aren't because things are just going to come up that you can't plan on and there's no way one person can have experience with everything going on in the world.</p>
<p>Don:	Here's an issue. We have one of our enterprises reach out to our network and say, "Hey, oh by the way, I was trying to get a line of credit at the bank, and I'm not going to name the bank, I probably should after you hear the story but that bank or that credit officer is no longer with them, they didn't file my paperwork properly. I'm not going to be able to make payroll. So one of our investors got that email, called the president of that bank, the president of that bank got involved, and this was on a Tuesday, after New Year's Day, got involved, our investment person, they were able to get the credit line all within two days because they didn't know the president of the bank, they were running through the red tape while one of our colleagues or our community went to that bank and said, "Hey, this is what's going on. Looks like it's a...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-don-lee-80]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2102</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/931821ea-6948-4410-a44b-eb2a93e89fc9/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:50:50 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/30824324-04ba-44f0-b023-2d674548307c/80donlee.mp3" length="46416992" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Job Creation &amp; Impact Investing with Don Lee Today, we are moving to the Impact Investing Inglenook to talk to Don Lee. Don has been quite a visionary around social enterprise local investing and has begun to change the way many people are investing in the Detroit area. His has passionate rationale and incredible enthusiasm…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Nique Love Rhodes #79</title><itunes:title>S3: Nique Love Rhodes #79</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Nique Love Rhodes</h2>
<p>We have a social entrepreneur of a different kind, she is a rapper!  You will have an opportunity to learn how the social and business sides come together for impact with Nique Love Rhodes! We featured her once before on one of the other episodes, Bags to Butterflies, I think. You will have to check it out. And, since she is an artist herself, we will get to hear TWO songs today, one of which is an exclusive debut before her album even releases!</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  This is Romy and we have something new for you today! We have a social entrepreneur of a different kind, she is a rapper!  You will have an opportunity to learn how the social and business sides come together for impact with Nique Love Rhodes! We featured her once before on one of the other episodes, Bags to Butterflies, I think. You will have to check it out. And, since she is an artist herself, we will get to hear TWO songs today, one of which is an exclusive debut before her album even releases!  Too much…<br />
Before we get started, let’s see what Luke has for our fun fuel …</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi, This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
Nique has incorporated rap into her career, so we are going to take a closer look into rap and the history of this genre.<br />
Rap has recently taken the world by storm. But where did it come from? In 1973, a man  named DJ Kool Herc was sitting his apartment in the Bronx with his sister. The young DJ took two turntables and  played the same breakbeat section of the James Brown record “clap your hands.” This method of recording is also used today by many producers. In 1979 rap took off and gave birth to many popular songs, including rappers delight by the sugar hill gang. </p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thank you Luke!  Always informative and fun, hence, why we call it the Fun Fuel, ha ha.<br />
Okay, let’s get to it. Here is my interview with the amazing Nique Love Rhodes.</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Romy:	So, all right, so welcome to the podcast.</p>
<p>Nique:	Thank you. I'm very excited.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah</p>
<p>Nique:	 It's a big week for me; I get married literally in seven days from now.</p>
<p>Romy:	What? I didn't know that.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes. Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	Congratulations.</p>
<p>Nique:	So-</p>
<p>Romy:	So you'll be married when this comes out.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes, I'm excited.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my gosh. It's so great Nique.  Well, you're our first artist, you're our first, let's say a musician artist-</p>
<p>Nique:	Yep.</p>
<p>Romy:	... that is a social entrepreneur so, I've been really excited and waiting to interview you, and I wanted to talk about all the things that you do and why you're, why we consider each other social entrepreneurs. And because I don't think sometimes musicians who are doing inspirational things think of themselves that way.</p>
<p>Nique:	That's true. That's true.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. So let's talk about what you do first. What's the kind of music for those who have never heard part of your messaging or your, listen to your tracks? Let's give the listeners an overview of the type of music that you produce.</p>
<p>Nique:	For sure, so I am, I would consider myself a socially conscious hip hop artist. So all of my music is rooted in a couple of different things. So it's rooted in putting positive vibes out into the world and being a sense of encouragement, of inspiration, of hope to every listener, to anyone who...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Nique Love Rhodes</h2>
<p>We have a social entrepreneur of a different kind, she is a rapper!  You will have an opportunity to learn how the social and business sides come together for impact with Nique Love Rhodes! We featured her once before on one of the other episodes, Bags to Butterflies, I think. You will have to check it out. And, since she is an artist herself, we will get to hear TWO songs today, one of which is an exclusive debut before her album even releases!</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  This is Romy and we have something new for you today! We have a social entrepreneur of a different kind, she is a rapper!  You will have an opportunity to learn how the social and business sides come together for impact with Nique Love Rhodes! We featured her once before on one of the other episodes, Bags to Butterflies, I think. You will have to check it out. And, since she is an artist herself, we will get to hear TWO songs today, one of which is an exclusive debut before her album even releases!  Too much…<br />
Before we get started, let’s see what Luke has for our fun fuel …</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi, This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
Nique has incorporated rap into her career, so we are going to take a closer look into rap and the history of this genre.<br />
Rap has recently taken the world by storm. But where did it come from? In 1973, a man  named DJ Kool Herc was sitting his apartment in the Bronx with his sister. The young DJ took two turntables and  played the same breakbeat section of the James Brown record “clap your hands.” This method of recording is also used today by many producers. In 1979 rap took off and gave birth to many popular songs, including rappers delight by the sugar hill gang. </p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thank you Luke!  Always informative and fun, hence, why we call it the Fun Fuel, ha ha.<br />
Okay, let’s get to it. Here is my interview with the amazing Nique Love Rhodes.</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Romy:	So, all right, so welcome to the podcast.</p>
<p>Nique:	Thank you. I'm very excited.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah</p>
<p>Nique:	 It's a big week for me; I get married literally in seven days from now.</p>
<p>Romy:	What? I didn't know that.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes. Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	Congratulations.</p>
<p>Nique:	So-</p>
<p>Romy:	So you'll be married when this comes out.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes, I'm excited.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my gosh. It's so great Nique.  Well, you're our first artist, you're our first, let's say a musician artist-</p>
<p>Nique:	Yep.</p>
<p>Romy:	... that is a social entrepreneur so, I've been really excited and waiting to interview you, and I wanted to talk about all the things that you do and why you're, why we consider each other social entrepreneurs. And because I don't think sometimes musicians who are doing inspirational things think of themselves that way.</p>
<p>Nique:	That's true. That's true.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. So let's talk about what you do first. What's the kind of music for those who have never heard part of your messaging or your, listen to your tracks? Let's give the listeners an overview of the type of music that you produce.</p>
<p>Nique:	For sure, so I am, I would consider myself a socially conscious hip hop artist. So all of my music is rooted in a couple of different things. So it's rooted in putting positive vibes out into the world and being a sense of encouragement, of inspiration, of hope to every listener, to anyone who listens to my music. But it's also rooted in a sense of being socially responsible and putting messages that are timely, that's gonna get people to think about things critically, or to, you know, think about something completely different, or to, you know, get inspired to actually become active participants in their community and the world when it comes to social issues.</p>
<p>	So I talk about racism, I talk about, you know, religious divides, I talk about just so many different social issues period. And really just try to bring those things to the forefront to really just bring people together and inspire people, and encourage people to, you know, be great in the world and do great things.</p>
<p>Romy:	How did you, how long have you been doing this, like is this something that you started when you were real young or did you have an inspirational moment that you started to do this kinda.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah, I started, I actually did start young. So I started doing music professionally at 14. I took it; I was like, I took it serious, I started initially doing poetry in the church. It's kind of a funny story, so I was at a youth, like a youth revival or something like that, and I did a poem, and somebody was like, "Hey, it sounds like you're rapping", and I was like, "That's cool, I love rap music."</p>
<p>	My mom always, like, made me, like she was like, "You can't listen to rap, it's so misogynistic, and it's bad language." So I would have to sneak and listen to hip hop, and then [crosstalk 00:03:55] I got exposed to Christian hip hop, so she was cool with me listening to Christian hip hop. So I was like, yeah, it does kinda sound like I'm rapping, and so I had a friend who was just getting to like, the Napster thing. Remember when Napster was popular-</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my Gosh, yeah.</p>
<p>Nique:	And so, he would download, like beats from Napster, totally illegal and he would send me these beats, and I would turn my poems into raps over the beats.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh Wow.</p>
<p>Nique:	 I'd be performing it in my church, and I was like, "Okay, this is cool." And then he, his name is Michael Smith, it's the guy who kind of started giving me those beats, and he was going to U of D college at the time, he was a freshman at U of D, and they had this open mic night, and so he signed me up on the open mic night, and here's this 14 year old high school freshman. And my mom and my dad drove me to U of D, and I did my first rap on the open mic, and people liked it, and I was like, "Oh my God," I was like, "This is amazing. I want to do this forever."</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my gosh, I love it. I love it, humble beginnings.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's so good. So what was some of the co- ... Do you remember back then what some of the comments were that energized you?</p>
<p>Nique:	It's. Actually, it's so funny, so the number one comment that I remember getting and it's so funny because I still get it to this day is, "You rap really good for a girl."</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh.</p>
<p>Nique:	And so, like whenever, even to this day like if I show up to a show and it's getting better now, 'cause more people are starting to like, kinda know me, and what I remember, like going to shows and people would automatically assume that I was like a R&B singer or something like that, or like some type of like pop singer and I would always have to prove myself. And so in my message, you know, super socially conscious and you kind of like, in your face and people would be blown away.</p>
<p>	So that was some of the early comments, and you know, I've always gotten comments of just, you know, "Hey, you know that song was really, really inspired me."  I've had a chance to early on, when I was a teenager, I had a chance to perform at the juvenile justice, juvenile detention facility downtown, which was super, super powerful, and that was kind of like my first introduction at like how a simple song can impact somebody, you know give them hope and give them inspiration.</p>
<p>	And then even outside of music, I've worked with youth, with teenagers for a number of years as a youth mentor and group facilitator. We would have conversations about hip-hop all of the time because, you know, them being teenagers and me being their group leader, they never believed that I was a rapper. And so I would have to like, rap for them and stuff like that and prove myself, and we would have conversations about hip-hop and they would tell me, you know like, "Hey I love this artist because, you know, they speak to my life and you know, I wanna be just like them." And so I've seen, and even me as a kid, like how hip hop impacted my thoughts and my world view and how I carried myself and the way I dressed, and the way I talked, all that. I've always just felt like the artist has a responsibility you know to the listener, to the audience and to, you know, put out positive messages and positive vibes always. And that's something I try to stay true to no matter what.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. That's such a good word. I think it's, I think there's this sort of myth or misconception when an artist, or a business person or just an average person is walking around, and they're attempting to be joyful and positive, there's some sort of myth that they're not experiencing the same thing everybody else is. That doesn't mean we're in a bubble, it means that we're just choosing to react to things differently, 'cause it's too easy. It's too easy to take the bait of doing it the other way, but it gives you more peace if you're putting good things out with your mouth, right?</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes, absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, gosh-</p>
<p>Nique:	Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	There's so many social things here, so let's keep going though.  So that was when you were 14.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah</p>
<p>Romy:	Then it just kept going because you've gotten quite a following now around Detroit and broader, so will you continue that journey up to now for us?</p>
<p>Nique:	Absolutely. So since that first performance at U of D when I was 14, I've been able, so what the last 14 years I've been doing it? I've been able to perform in like New York, and Toronto. I just did three shows out in South by Southwest this past March in Austin, Texas. Really awesome. And I have a band that performs with me, and that just became a thing within the past two years. So I've really, a lot of times performed with my band and we've been doing a number of shows all throughout Detroit, all of the local music venues. We did some shows out in Ann Arbor, so yeah, we've been making our rounds in the region.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah. We've been making our rounds in the region, and I put out my first studio album back in 2012 of original music. I didn't know what I was doing, as most entrepreneurs, who just have this product and you just put it out there, and then you learn as you go.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's right.</p>
<p>Nique:	I slowly started learning about like "Oh, it's more than just having a good song. It's the whole business behind it. Copyright. Some legal stuff and marketing and all of this stuff," and so I'm now on the process of actually re-releasing that studio album.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, nice.</p>
<p>Nique:	That'll be accompanied by the Life album with my band, and that'll be out within the next few months. It's actually getting mixed and mastered now.</p>
<p>Romy:	Nice!</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah. Now that I have the business sense and just really working to take what I've been doing and expanding it to a bigger level and being smarter about it and more strategic about it, I think that's ... It's a social enterprise.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Nique:	The marketing and selling of a product, but that has a social impact or a social good tied to it, so I'm excited about it for sure.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, it is. You are a social entrepreneur. That's one of the reasons I was excited to have you on here because you do have to run the business just as good as everybody, any other business owner, but you're right, your product has a social good.</p>
<p>	In some way, some of it, you can measure, and some of it is a little bit difficult to measure because inspiration and hope is hard to measure. You can't necessarily track what happens inside someone's heart and brain as they walk away from your ... Or who's really listening behind the scenes, but it's critical. It's an art form that's so needed, and that's one of the reasons, and you're creating an employment for yourself. It's actually your band.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	I just want to encourage other artists that want to do something positive that jobs can be created and not to minimize yourself as a social entrepreneur because your product is art in some way. You know?</p>
<p>Nique:	Mm-hmm (affirmative).</p>
<p>Romy:	I see a lot of artists minimizing themselves, and I just want to speak life into that right now.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes. Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. Where will they be able to buy your work, buy your album or your tracks?</p>
<p>Nique:	Yeah. It'll be available on my website, which is nlr.hiphop. It's very simple to remember. It'll also be on Apple Music or iTunes. It'll be on Spotify, Google Play. All of the major online distribution networks, all of the streaming platforms, it'll be available there, and then it'll also be available at any live shows.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, yeah. Are those shows, Nique, listed on your website too?</p>
<p>Nique:	Yup.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yup. Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Just from your perspective, as an artist and being part of a band, what are some of the things that you're working to either put in place or overcome from the business side right now? Sometimes, we find, when we talk about what's going on with each of us, the other businesses are encouraged like, "That's happening to me too," you know? Is there anything that you're working on right now or you found a way to make it better?</p>
<p>Nique:	Oh, man. A number of ways. For most musicians, your primary form of income is either through getting paid for live shows or through merchandise sales, including album purchases. Artists don't really make a lot of money from streaming, but it's a good platform for exposure, and so what I've been working on is, one, increasing that viability where people want to pay you for your products.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Nique:	That's something, a lot of entrepreneurs, especially here in the city, because the consumer market is so low, because a lot of people in Detroit are broke and everybody is trying to pay the bills, and so the market here can be difficult because people have to decide, "Hey, do I want to pay admission for your show? If I'd pay it to come see you perform, I may not have money to purchase a CD" or vice versa.</p>
<p>	I've been looking at just a lot of other forms of income that could supplement music, but still leveraging the brand. I'll give you an example and actually, you'll like this because it ties into Life Remodeled stuff.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Nique:	We are opening a rehearsal space inside the building that will also be used to leverage hip-hop as a way of teaching young people about leadership skills and social justice initiatives and how to be young leaders through hip-hop, and so that opens up a whole another opportunity of grants, which can fund so much.</p>
<p>	Just getting creative and thinking of other ways to leverage the brand and the product outside of those traditional ways, and then just the day-to-day task management of just managing a band. In my band, there's six guys. I call them ... They're like teenagers. Constantly, I happen to rein them in and coordinating schedules for shows and rehearsals, and so definitely, task, task management is always a top priority.</p>
<p>	As we get ready to release this, actually, [inaudible 00:16:46] double album, with the studio album and then the live album with it, tracking merchandise, I've been really looking at different platforms that can help with that and that is kind of a all-inclusive platform where you can manage your catalog, your inventory, your tour routing, and all of those logistical pieces to help stay organized and streamline everything.</p>
<p>	I'm right now working with a young woman who's handling branding, which is something that's very important, especially as the technology world gives ... Everyone can be a musician. Everyone can record the CD on their laptop and put it out.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Nique:	How do you cut through that into your branding and making sure your website is awesome and all of these different intricate things? I've been building the team that's been really helping me to do that, which is really cool, so I'm very excited about the business aspect. It's fun.</p>
<p>Romy:	It really is, if you embrace it, and there is a place for creativity. I love that you just mentioned that because I'm always trying to get people to think business is not in a box. There are some elements we all have to do to be legal. In the U.S., of course, we have to file tax returns and things like that, but there's a lot of room to get creative about how.</p>
<p>	One of the things that's been on my mind a lot lately, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, is the marketplace. We as business owners will say, "Okay, our product is this." "It's our song" or "It is our accounting service" or "Our teacher," whatever that might be, but the marketplace is changing left and right.</p>
<p>	When I say the marketplace, I think of "Where are things transacted? Where are they bought and sold? Where are my products going to be bought and sold?" Now, it could be in-person, in your social circle. It could be in a physical place like a retail shop. It could be digital, everything from SoundCloud, Amazon, and then you got that mixed in with something else you hid on that. It's specific to Detroit. I don't know if it's in other cities, I assume, but it's this sort of trade culture, so some things have been bought and sold without cash or trading, if you do this, let's team up and do this together.</p>
<p>Nique:	Yup.</p>
<p>Romy:	It's a little bit of a quagmire, and you need to be creative and super organized to, I don't know, keep the marketplace going and paying attention. It's changing by the minute, and I feel, "How are you navigating the marketplace of where things are bought and sold?"</p>
<p>Nique:	Yes. I think, probably, like everyone else, it's just networking with people.</p>
<p>Nique:	Everyone else is just networking with people in my field and seeing what's been working for them, what are some of their pitfalls. The music community is very diverse, but it's very tight knit, the longer you're in it, and the more shows you play and the more people you meet, you form this community within itself. And so we've been getting together quite a collective of artist, that we recently ... actually me and Wayne [inaudible 00:20:39], who's a drummer in a band, he and I and some other people, we started convening artists together to just talk about these issues of the marketplace and what's lacking here in the city for us to thrive. And what is already in place that's been working for us to thrive and just really brainstorming and learning as you go and just listening to each other.</p>
<p>	And just constant research. I spend a great deal of time if I'm not working towards a project, I spend a lot of my free time just scouring the internet seeing what other independent artists are doing and how did they get to that point. I've been really studying this guy Chance, the Rapper, who is a really, really great artist that's independent and really doing this thing and seeing his platforms and how he's been moving. Just finding people who are being successful and then just researching that. And then just connecting with people here on the ground that's in the same boat with me. And just really learning from each other. What I think is the best way, because the...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-nique-love-rhodes-79]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2100</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f1171a95-3dfd-4a29-9ce3-4a704b61759a/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:30:23 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/009ec00d-b4e9-459b-904f-fa5f7e60e370/79nique.mp3" length="56223968" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>39:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Nique Love Rhodes We have a social entrepreneur of a different kind, she is a rapper!  You will have an opportunity to learn how the social and business sides come together for impact with Nique Love Rhodes! We featured her once before on one of the other episodes, Bags to Butterflies, I think. You will…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Basil and Investing at Artesian Farms #78</title><itunes:title>S3: Basil and Investing at Artesian Farms #78</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms</h2>
<p>On this episode, Romy catches back up with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms in Detroit. She interviewed him in Season 1, and his hydroponics facility has changed immensely. Jeff has had a lot of investor engagement. He has taken on program-related investments, loans, and direct equity. It has been an interesting journey. Great song by Astray at the end.<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar2.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar3.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2133" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-300x225.jpg" alt="ar1" width="300" height="225" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-300x225.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-768x576.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1.jpg 1200w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Hello, everyone, this is Romy on with you for another interview about social enterprise and the fires that keep it burning!  On this episode, we catch back up with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms in Detroit. We interviewed him in Season 1, and his hydroponics facility has changed immensely. Jeff has had a lot of investor engagement. He has taken on program-related investments, loans, and direct equity. It has been an interesting journey. And, as usual, we have a song for you at the end by a Detroit artist.  Let’s jump over to Luke to see what he has for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi! This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode. When you think of farming, you typically think of an open field out in the country with tractors and farm animals.<br />
But, the ancient Mayan people were excellent at farming by hand. Using many systems of agriculture, they were able to feed their people as the population began to rise. In the mountains, they used what is called step farming. It was called this because the crops would look like giant steps. In swampy areas, they used raised earth platforms that were surrounded by canals. In forests, they used a tactic called slash and burn to create a farming surface, and then dug canals into that area to keep the soil wet for plants.<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the Episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke!  We people are so inventive and adaptive. So amazing. Lots of ways to farm. Okay, let’s keep rolling into the farming discussion with Jeff from Artesian Farms. We were on location so you might hear...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms</h2>
<p>On this episode, Romy catches back up with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms in Detroit. She interviewed him in Season 1, and his hydroponics facility has changed immensely. Jeff has had a lot of investor engagement. He has taken on program-related investments, loans, and direct equity. It has been an interesting journey. Great song by Astray at the end.<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar2.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar3.jpg"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2133" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-300x225.jpg" alt="ar1" width="300" height="225" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-300x225.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-768x576.jpg 768w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ar1.jpg 1200w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Hello, everyone, this is Romy on with you for another interview about social enterprise and the fires that keep it burning!  On this episode, we catch back up with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms in Detroit. We interviewed him in Season 1, and his hydroponics facility has changed immensely. Jeff has had a lot of investor engagement. He has taken on program-related investments, loans, and direct equity. It has been an interesting journey. And, as usual, we have a song for you at the end by a Detroit artist.  Let’s jump over to Luke to see what he has for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi! This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode. When you think of farming, you typically think of an open field out in the country with tractors and farm animals.<br />
But, the ancient Mayan people were excellent at farming by hand. Using many systems of agriculture, they were able to feed their people as the population began to rise. In the mountains, they used what is called step farming. It was called this because the crops would look like giant steps. In swampy areas, they used raised earth platforms that were surrounded by canals. In forests, they used a tactic called slash and burn to create a farming surface, and then dug canals into that area to keep the soil wet for plants.<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the Episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke!  We people are so inventive and adaptive. So amazing. Lots of ways to farm. Okay, let’s keep rolling into the farming discussion with Jeff from Artesian Farms. We were on location so you might hear some blowers and such in the background. This is part of my interview with Jeff.</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
 Romy:	 Welcome back to the podcast.</p>
<p>Jeff:	Well Thanks, Romy, I appreciate you invited me back. It's been two years since we opened back, it actually was two years on Earth Day, it was April 22nd on 2015 that we had our little event here, we had our first prototype rack system built and since that time we've expanded, a little slower than what we anticipated, but we are rapidly expanding now, so it's really exciting right now.</p>
<p>Romy:	Now let's catch everyone up. What's the size of the facility now?</p>
<p>Jeff:	The size of the facility, square footage wise is 7,200 square feet of which about 6,000 square feet is dedicated for growing lettuce, kale and basil and currently, we have 14 unites activated that are growing those products with 26 more planned, and of those another 11 of them are already installed and ready to go, we're just waiting to volume now. Then we've got another nine units that we will be assembling here in the next 60 days.</p>
<p>Romy:	We know because I've been talking with you on the side, but there's quite a demand for this hydroponically grown produce, isn't there?</p>
<p>Jeff:	Yeah, there's a real demand for locally grown product period, whether it's hydroponically grown or traditional farming grown, whatever the case may be, but anything you read in the culinary and in the food world, everything's focused on local. You see a lot of the restaurants promoting local farmers, both urban farmers and farmers from around southeast Michigan, and then you also see retailers, the grocers that are promoting the same thing and the small, regional grocers are more active in that than the large national grocers, but it's really interesting to watch grow.</p>
<p>	We fit right into that movement, that local food moment. There are so many good, beneficial things out of local grown. One, the product's more flavorful, it's more nutritious, it lasts longer in your refrigerator once you buy it, because it's going from our farm to your plate in a matter of a day or two, opposed to when it comes from California where almost 90% of our lettuce comes from is seven to 10 days in the distribution channel because it even gets to the grocer than to your store.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's share what's now bring grown here because you had some ideas, but now it's basil, kale, and lettuce?</p>
<p>Jeff:	That's correct, we're growing three products, it's a very narrow product mix, but it's high volume under a narrow product mix and that way we can meet what the demands are for our principal customers which are grocers. Grocers like Westborn Market, Bush's, Papa Joe's, Whole Foods, those are folks that really promote local and that we've got relationships with to buy our product. Our lettuce of a mix of lettuce, it's a variety of lettuce and that kind of changes up based on the season and what goes into it, but you see other packages typically call it spring mix, ours is called Motown mix.</p>
<p>Romy:	Motown mix.</p>
<p>Jeff:	There's three or four different types of lettuce that go in there that we harvest, and then we have kale, which is a blue scotch kale which is a small, not as bitter flavor of kale, and it's a little easier to work with in your home or in a chef's kitchen, it's not the real big kale. Then we got basil, and our basil is by far and away the best basil that you will ever have. Everybody raves about it, and the stores can't keep it in stock, we move two or three pounds of basil a week into a store, and it's gone in two or three days.</p>
<p>	It's a whole different process than what the traditional basil farmers do. We harvest only the leaf, and so the plant continues to grow, and we harvest it every single week. The leaves are anywhere from about half of your hand size to your hand size of what goes into a one-ounce package. What you buy is all edible product where most basil comes in a package in about a third or more, which is stems. Especially this time of year, most of our basil comes from China and Vietnam, Colombia, Venezuela, so it's flying at 40,000 feet in a controlled environment, it's still cold, but it's still degrades the product.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Jeff:	If you look at our product next to another suppliers’ product, there's just no comparison.</p>
<p>Romy:	The basil, I have to admit ... Now I'm a little enamored looking at the kale right now through the window, but the basil, it almost looks like an artwork. It is the size of your hand, and it's so flavorful. It's almost tastes spicy.</p>
<p>Jeff:	It's supposed to taste spicy, that's the variety that we use. It's a [inaudible 00:05:19]</p>
<p>Romy:	That's so good. It's so good. I love what you just said about you decided to grow to meet the demand of your primary customers. I think that's such a misstep that a lot of us entrepreneurs can take, me included. We go off on one product or service line and then at some point the pendulum swings back to what's being bought the most and what you can produce. Was that a revelation for you? How did you land on that?</p>
<p>Jeff:	Well, there's two philosophies in urban farming. Most people that are doing urban farming are growing for a very set group of people for a specific reason, and the other part of it is they're growing for the culinary world. The culinary world is kind of fickle in a way in that they want specialty stuff, all the restaurants you see going up in Detroit right now, they want specialty products, they want purple carrots, or they want this or that type of thing, it's a very narrow niche that you ... You don't do a great volume.</p>
<p>	But there are farmers here that do a great job of that because they're catering to the culinary world and that's what this focus are. Our focus was on the other side, was to look at the high volume products that are purchased for consumer use, direct consumer use and once you get past the tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers which are flowering plants which don't work very well in this environment, the next largest purchase is lettuce.</p>
<p>Romy:	Gotcha.</p>
<p>Jeff:	Kale is kind of a hot product right now and because we grow basil in a unique way just because it's a competitive advantage and I make a product that we [inaudible 00:07:02] there's other things we can grow, we probably will once we get our facility up and running within a year, like spinach for example, we can harvest. Spinach we've done, rainbow kale, which is really kind of cool, nice product with real high nutritional value, arugula which has got a real spicy [crosstalk 00:07:23], those are other types of products that we've experimented with and that we will, at some point in time, probably add when we find the right niche that we can make money on. There's no point in growing something if you're not gonna make money on it.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right, right, that's so true. You know what, I was remiss. I forgot to mention when we talked about the size of the building; I just want to remind the listeners that you took this building, was a blighted building. Could we revisit that just for a second?</p>
<p>Jeff:	In the process of putting this business together, living in this neighborhood, I was looking around the area to find a structure, that actually was more of an entrepreneurial incubator before it was a manufacturing facility, but once we got it going, we landed on this vertical farming. I looked around for different buildings and landed on this one, and it was owned by the company across the street over there, and so we looked at it, it's really perfect for vertical growing because it's all concrete of block and metal, there's no wood, there's no sheet rock anything like that that collects water, collects mold, so it's really a perfect building for that.</p>
<p>	Plus with the long channels and long rooms made it perfect for setting up the inventory racks that we use for our trays and for our growing units. We bought the building in the summer of 2014 and renovated it as much as possible and started growing. It hadn't been occupied since 1998, over the course of looking at may have been here before, I've got the last user was a fishing lure company. But at some point [inaudible 00:09:02] used to have a tracker plant right around the corner here and a lot of the buildings around here were suppliers that supplied [inaudible 00:09:11] for different needs for their tractor manufacturing. That business closed in the mid 70's.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and this is really beautiful in here with all the lightning. There's so many things that we as entrepreneurs go through. What are some of the things that maybe you were glad you didn't know in the beginning or things that you've learned along the way that you can share with someone else that ... Because your business is what I consider ... You need some equipment and capital, a large amount up front to get going and as we walked along the journey with you a lot of the capital came in in pieces. Sometimes people think that's good and sometimes you probably needed more up front than we thought, right?</p>
<p>Jeff:	I think kind of the lessons learned was don't underestimate the time it takes from infancy to when you're actually productive, and then you associate a cash requirement for that period. It's difficult to estimate.</p>
<p>Romy:	It's always more.</p>
<p>Jeff:	You always need more than what you think you do and fortunately, we've got really good financial partners, investment partners, they've been phenomenal in helping out. That's kind of one of the things; the other thing is that if it was just farming and just growing and harvesting the business would be very easy. It's post-harvest that becomes more complex and more time consuming because you've got distribution involved, you've got packaging involved, you have a whole requirement for traceability for some of the retailers, so you gotta be able to know what you harvested, where you harvested from, when it went into the package, when it went into the cooler, when it came out of the cooler, and you show up and a retailer and it's gotta be temperature gauged, gotta get it cold in temperature. There's just a lot of complexity in the whole food channel that I really didn't expect.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's interesting because it's way beyond the growing, right? The growing is its own science and the art of the delivery, that's a process all on its own.</p>
<p>Jeff:	The easy part of it was the sell part of it.</p>
<p>Romy:	The what?</p>
<p>Jeff:	The selling part.</p>
<p>Romy:	The selling part, okay.</p>
<p>Jeff:	The selling part. I met with Randy Parker who is the produce buyer at Bush's up in Ann Arbor, and they control what 60 of the stores were buying. The meeting lasted about 10 minutes, and it was it. He said, "We're in," and that was it, 10 minutes, we're in. They're our largest customer, and we've got nine, or is it 10 now? Nine or 10 of their stores up and running, we've got six more to add, which now that we've got some additional volume we're probably gonna add in the next two weeks. [inaudible 00:12:07] with Westborn Market, Papa Joe's, all we very, very easy one call close type deal. Whole Foods on the hand was a different deal because they had much more oriented towards their supply chain and there's a lot of complexity [crosstalk 00:12:32]</p>
<p>Romy:	The process of establishing a vendor and all that, yeah.</p>
<p>Jeff:	And it's a national chain, so it's understandable because these are things you have to go through with all these national chains. It took over a year to get through their process to get on board. It's been worthwhile, and it's worthwhile going in there and getting it done.</p>
<p>Romy:	Well, you're a good salesperson, I wouldn't want to underestimate that, I mean the products ... When you look at the product it is really attractive, it sells itself, but you're a good salesperson. That's a good word though; I just want to pause on that front. Food entrepreneurs, the local businesses might be a little bit easier as a point of entry, but you still want to see those that might take a year because they would potentially buy bigger quantities, right?</p>
<p>Jeff:	Oh yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	But that's a good word for entrepreneurs starting.</p>
<p>Jeff:	We're only one Whole Foods store, and that's it, and we're not in the other five or six that are in southeast Michigan because right now we don't have the volume to be able to handle it. We've already got the commitment from Bush's, but we don't have a commitment from Whole Foods, but if we had it, we would have to add a whole lot more a lot faster which means more headcount and stuff like that. You start talking places like Kroger and Meijer; now you're into a whole different game. You're talking about a facility that does nothing but their business, and you're talking about a 20 or 30,000 square foot building. Until we're past the stage here, it doesn't make sense to really talk about [inaudible 00:14:00]</p>
<p>Romy:	That balance of ... Oh, you gotta get that go ahead.</p>
<p>Jeff:	I'll shut it up.</p>
<p>Romy:	[inaudible 00:14:11] Let's shift gears a little bit to [inaudible 00:14:30] it was always on your heart to hire some people the neighborhood that you knew. You lived here for awhile, and that was one of the reasons you located here. You've got a couple employees here now, let's talk about how many employees do you have and how have you been able to [inaudible 00:14:46] that in, in the middle of building it because ...</p>
<p>Jeff:	The whole division was to hire neighborhood people 18 to 30 years old that either dropped out of school, had some other difficulties in life or graduated and didn't go to college and looking for opportunity and for people in the neighborhood. The three people I have here, two of the three I've known since they were 10 or 12 years old and the other one is a close friend of the other guy. It's been worked out well, working with folks in under-resourced families, sometimes it becomes a little bit difficult when we have things happen. Like the lady that worked for me, she's a young mother, two children, when the children get sick she gets sick, she doesn't show up work. Things you just bare with because that's kind of what our mission is.</p>
<p>	If it happened consistently, she'd have a hard time having a job somewhere else, so those are the kind of things that we have. We're hiring a student that's coming back from college for the summer for part-time, he grew up in the neighborhood so he's gonna work here and then we've got a Cass Tech intern through the University of Michigan that's gonna be here to work on the force this summer, which will be a big help because right now it's pretty crazy here with the [inaudible 00:16:09]</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and you're seven days a week here doing all of it, from growing and packaging ...</p>
<p>Jeff:	[crosstalk 00:16:17] Farming is seven days a week, 24 hours a day and there's always something going on here, so ...</p>
<p>Romy:	Those darn plants, they're living things they're not little robots, huh?</p>
<p>Jeff:	They grow on their own; they grow fast, they require to be harvested when they need to be harvested and then you got things like, right now we've got an issue right now, we just harvested, and for some reason, we're replanting, and the water's not pumping up, so we gotta ... That's what I was [inaudible 00:16:42] right now. There's always things you just always gotta watch. Even though it's controlled and even though it's more dependable than outdoor farming...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-jeff-adams-of-artesian-farms-78]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2095</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/13f95582-987b-4909-a148-d45648b10d26/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2017 22:28:51 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/711a8fa1-c4a2-4b18-bb9a-703606adf927/78artesian.mp3" length="49019936" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:02</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms On this episode, Romy catches back up with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms in Detroit. She interviewed him in Season 1, and his hydroponics facility has changed immensely. Jeff has had a lot of investor engagement. He has taken on program-related investments, loans, and direct equity. It has been an…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit #77</title><itunes:title>S3: Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit #77</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit</h2>
<p>It is all about veterans on this episode!  We hear from Jarret Alan Schlaff who is the founder and the main visionary over at Pingree. He shares how the whole idea began and, even, how the name came to be near the end. You won’t want to miss it!  Stay tuned until the end when we share another great Detroit artist with you.</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome everyone, this is Romy, and I am excited to tell you about Pingree Manufacturing today!  It is all about veterans on this episode!  So, we will hear from Jarret Alan Sheff  who is the founder and, I would surmise, the main visionary over at Pingree. He shares how the whole idea began and, even, how the name came to be near the end. You won’t want to miss it!  Stay tuned until the end when we share another great Detroit artist with you.<br />
What is happening in our Fun Fuel for today?  Luke, what do you have for us?</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi! This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
The company name, Pingree Manufacturing, actually came from the Detroit mayor that served four terms, Hazen S Pingree.<br />
Hazen S Pingree was a businessman with no political experience. The Maine native fought for the Union in the Civil War and was a POW at the Confederate prison at Andersonville. Pingree decided to move to Detroit after the war and become a shoemaker. He decided to run for office in 1890 and held office until 1901. He even claimed the nickname “the idol of the people.”<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks Luke!  Okay, let’s drop in on the conversation with Jarret and see what is walking in and out of Pingree in Detroit.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Well, cool. We're here at Pingree. It's Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. Pingree Manufacturing. Some know us as Pingree Detroit. Some know us just as Pingree.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Well, tell us about Pingree.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We're a social impact startup committed to creating living-wage work for veterans that are overcoming homelessness or unemployment by building some exciting accessories, gear, and footwear using reclaimed leather and other materials from the auto industry.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. Wow, okay. I want to really dive into all those, but where originally did the idea come from to even get into this?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We started probably a little differently than most companies do. We started more from the impact side where there was a veteran that was living and squatting in my neighborhood. Talking to the man, he was a Marine not too much older than me and was just looking for an opportunity. He had overcome his own addictions. He was just looking for gainful employment. That same week I met another, happened to be a Marine ... A big part of my upbringing was a Marine Corps drill sergeant ... Meeting another Marine who was walking on the street going business to business looking for work. Got to know this guy, he had a master's in engineering and a JD and was sleeping in his car.</p>
<p>	That, to me, just ... It shook me. It was like this back-to-back moment where I literally remember saying, "Someone's gotta do something about this. It's unacceptable." When I said it out loud, "Someone's gotta do something about this," really, I kind of, my core was like, "I can do something about this." At that time, I stepped away from my past job and started on this three-month exploratory, I guess, journey talking to veteran's...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit</h2>
<p>It is all about veterans on this episode!  We hear from Jarret Alan Schlaff who is the founder and the main visionary over at Pingree. He shares how the whole idea began and, even, how the name came to be near the end. You won’t want to miss it!  Stay tuned until the end when we share another great Detroit artist with you.</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome everyone, this is Romy, and I am excited to tell you about Pingree Manufacturing today!  It is all about veterans on this episode!  So, we will hear from Jarret Alan Sheff  who is the founder and, I would surmise, the main visionary over at Pingree. He shares how the whole idea began and, even, how the name came to be near the end. You won’t want to miss it!  Stay tuned until the end when we share another great Detroit artist with you.<br />
What is happening in our Fun Fuel for today?  Luke, what do you have for us?</p>
<p>Fun Fuel<br />
Hi! This is Luke Trombley, and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
The company name, Pingree Manufacturing, actually came from the Detroit mayor that served four terms, Hazen S Pingree.<br />
Hazen S Pingree was a businessman with no political experience. The Maine native fought for the Union in the Civil War and was a POW at the Confederate prison at Andersonville. Pingree decided to move to Detroit after the war and become a shoemaker. He decided to run for office in 1890 and held office until 1901. He even claimed the nickname “the idol of the people.”<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks Luke!  Okay, let’s drop in on the conversation with Jarret and see what is walking in and out of Pingree in Detroit.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Well, cool. We're here at Pingree. It's Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. Pingree Manufacturing. Some know us as Pingree Detroit. Some know us just as Pingree.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Well, tell us about Pingree.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We're a social impact startup committed to creating living-wage work for veterans that are overcoming homelessness or unemployment by building some exciting accessories, gear, and footwear using reclaimed leather and other materials from the auto industry.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah. Wow, okay. I want to really dive into all those, but where originally did the idea come from to even get into this?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We started probably a little differently than most companies do. We started more from the impact side where there was a veteran that was living and squatting in my neighborhood. Talking to the man, he was a Marine not too much older than me and was just looking for an opportunity. He had overcome his own addictions. He was just looking for gainful employment. That same week I met another, happened to be a Marine ... A big part of my upbringing was a Marine Corps drill sergeant ... Meeting another Marine who was walking on the street going business to business looking for work. Got to know this guy, he had a master's in engineering and a JD and was sleeping in his car.</p>
<p>	That, to me, just ... It shook me. It was like this back-to-back moment where I literally remember saying, "Someone's gotta do something about this. It's unacceptable." When I said it out loud, "Someone's gotta do something about this," really, I kind of, my core was like, "I can do something about this." At that time, I stepped away from my past job and started on this three-month exploratory, I guess, journey talking to veteran's organizations, nonprofits, businesses, veterans in my family, in my circle of support, my friends, saying, "Hey, what's the current gaps in the space? Why are there men and women like Mike and these different folks who aren't getting the support they need? What are the gaps? What are the needs?"</p>
<p>	Across the board, this huge gap was between the provision of basic needs where people's survival is covered to the point of gainful employment. There are often the access to the training, the pathway, and the actual living-wage jobs that are accessible and are working and focused on connecting with these men and women. We started the question, if we're going to create work, and we're going to create, specifically I guess, focused on creating this work for the men and women that have served in our military who are looking for an opportunity, what could we do that is really representative of this resurgence in Detroit where these folks love working with their hands? They are looking to contribute. What can we create that really embodies all this?</p>
<p>	In talking to an elder in my neighborhood, he said out loud when I was sharing with him how frustrated I was and excited about the opportunity to create some work, he's like, "You know, you just ... You've gotta be the boots on the ground."</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, excellent.</p>
<p>Jarret:	That was our name, as there was a group veterans and civilians who came together and were exploring this together. That was our rally cry. The name of our business, for a while, as we were just getting organized was The Boots on the Ground, Project Boots on the Ground, and Boots. We were like, "Wow. They haven't built boots in Detroit since the '50s. What if we did? What if we brought and re-shored American manufacturing, created work for some of the folks who know boots better than most?" So Boots on the Ground was born, which has since evolved into Pingree Manufacturing. As it sometimes is said, "If you see a better way, find a way to make that happen," and so we were on that pathway.</p>
<p>Romy:	How long ago was that, that moment from the conversation on the sidewalk until now?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. That was the fall of 2014 when that conversation happened, and we've-</p>
<p>Romy:	Two-and-a-half years, roughly?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We formalized in January of 2015, and we've been on a pathway ... I've been doing this part-time without taking a payment, but we've housed two veterans in that period of time. We've gotten three other veterans part-time work. We've done close to 150 hours of outreach time. We're just literally sitting down with veterans in shelters and veteran's organizations and saying, "What do you need? What do you want to see? What would an ideal work environment look like? How would you be able to thrive in a work experience?" Really trying to go to where they're at and design the solution, not around what we think sounds good, but actually what the needs are and what's missing.</p>
<p>Romy:	Of the veteran?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	Of the veteran. That's really interesting. You're the first social entrepreneur I've heard really designing the business solutions around your potential employee. That's so fascinating.</p>
<p>Jarret:	The thought is, I was involved in some other, I guess you would call, organizing and capacity building within organizations. Often what we found was missing was this community-focused perspective of identifying the needs and actually wanting to listen to what people want and need before first saying ... I have my vision. I still have my vision, but that vision has become so much more developed, and powerful, and creative. Actually, there's a very clear focus on what the needs are, and we're, I feel like, much more equipped to both support the unique population of folks who want to work alongside, and also create this experience that we think can just really transform the lives of so many folks we work with.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, yeah. Well, it sounds like, and you already have some-</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	You said you housed them. What does that mean for folks that might not know that term?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Sure, yeah. Men and women who have been homeless, we have just supported them on their pathway to getting housing. Some of it's subsidized housing. Some of it's getting an apartment again. Getting connected with the support they need.</p>
<p>	Our first actual workers ... We have both a volunteer ten-person vision council, currently, that serves as our advisory board as we're developing our full-time board. That's all veterans, as well as a spouse of a veteran, and then another advisor that's not a veteran. Then we've got our actual paid team, which is currently two part-time veteran crafters. Then we have everyone else. One of our co-owners, he's working in the beautiful sweat equity realm right now where he's doing all of our marketing, communications, branding. He's a US Army veteran. Then we've got full-time, well soon to be full-time, master boot maker and a production manager. Those two women are not veterans. Yeah. Roughly, we have a majority veteran workforce. The goal is, in the next five years, to have the company be lead and majority-owned by veterans.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, that's exciting. There's so many questions I could go to, but I want to make sure I capture some of the other places for our listeners. Let's go then now to the revenue model for the business and then the boots.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Great.</p>
<p>Romy:	The revenue model for the business, how does that work then?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We are looking at a multi-tiered approach of how we can share this opportunity to participate with our brands to our customers. It's both a direct e-commerce model where we have a pretty large following and pretty large support network online ... That's your traditional e-commerce store, the large social media telling campaigns. Just this last winter, we were on Channel Two, Channel Four, Channel Seven. We had a 10-second commercial that aired in all the Imagine theaters in all of Metro Detroit for all of December and January. It was on a loop. They estimate we were in front of 200,000 people, our target audience.</p>
<p>	We've got out there. We've made this first touch, the second kind of first conversation, almost, introducing what we're going to do. Now we have an opportunity to actually officially unveil our first products come July 1st. There will be e-commerce. That will be coupled with a wholesale distribution model with some of the local really powerhouse vendors in Detroit. We're crossing our fingers and hoping to get in some of these local stores that really have a beautiful relationship with local community. I won't name one on the podcast. I don't want to jinx us, but there's some folks like Pure Detroit who we would love to work with. Yeah. We're really looking at both, that large online presence coupled with our ... I guess almost these wholesale distributors coupled with what we're terming as usage partners.</p>
<p>	We would love for our tote bag to be in every yoga shop in metro Detroit. To walk into a yoga studio not expecting to see a bag that could be co-branded with that yoga studio, built with all reclaimed leather from the auto industry, handmade by veterans, and then at a price that is accessible, to us is exciting. We're actually making a yoga strap holder that can be an add-on to any bag, or it could be a wine bottle opener if you want, right? It will have multiple versatility options, right? Having those, and then we're also exploring partnerships literally where ... I won't name ones that aren't currently fully established, but there's a lot of those kind of potential synergies where we could provide an opportunity for the customers of these different businesses, getting these in the hands of folks, from our backpacks that we're first unveiling, as well as our boots that we'll unveil likely in the early summer.</p>
<p>	Eventually, this space that we're in right now, we will have a small retail nook. So we'll have it open one to two days a week when we can afford the full renovation to get it accessible. People will be able to come in, see us as we're working, and be able to look at our space which is in this 100-year-old building that was designed by Albert Kahn, as I mentioned earlier, who designed the Fisher Building, the Packard Plant, the Willow Run Airport, the Belle Isle Conservatory, really embodies this idea of this Detroit heritage. Yeah. We're excited. Being in this space, sharing space thanks to Anew Life Prosthetics and Orthotics. They are the-</p>
<p>Romy:	Shout out to them.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Right. They made it possible for us to be here. Yeah. We'll have this nook where folks can come. It might be on a Saturday or a Sunday. We're still going to work out our schedule, but we'd love to invite folks to our space to try on our boots in-house, try on our bags, see how these things are made, see where they come from. Definitely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's go to the boots.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Right.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's go to the boot products.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Excellent.</p>
<p>Romy:	Who do you envision as the buyer of these boots?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. We designed from the perspective of, as we way, we're designing for comfort, classic durability, urban sensibility, and this distinct Detroit flair that really embodies the type of comfort that you'd expect from a work boot, but the versatility and fashion that you might expect in a luxury boot. We want to create this beautiful blend that we're calling an urban utility boot. Our ideal target that would want to be able to wear these boots would be our young professionals in cities. In Detroit, we have a very large and growing emerging audience of millennials, mostly, who are both looking to wear their values and also looking to look good and feel good while they're doing it, both in a comfort perspective and the impact.</p>
<p>	Not only does our story speak for itself, but the products are going to be world-class. We're not going to give you something that's going to fall apart. It's going to be as good or better than our competition because it's employing this hand craftsmanship that's been tested. Our boot maker was the former co-founder of another booth company in Flint. At Sutorial, they make gorgeous high-end boots. We're blending this hand craftsmanship with the tested durability of folks like Wolverine who we're also collaborating and getting mentored by. We bring this beautiful blend that allows someone to wear their boots to the office, on their bike, wear if they want to ride the motorcycle, go out with friends. It can really open up and be versatile enough for the occasion. As we often say as kind of a fun little aside, we go, "Wherever your adventure takes you," right, "we've got you covered."</p>
<p>Romy:	For men and women?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	Men's and women's.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yes. Definitely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay. Wow, that's great.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Thank you.</p>
<p>Romy:	How did you land on this reclaimed leather? Let's talk about where that comes from-</p>
<p>Jarret:	Of course.</p>
<p>Romy:	... because that's an amazing ... Not that you don't already have bunch of impact going on. Let's add on some upcycling, too.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Sure. This is kind of an interesting story. Part of our grounding as a company is we think it's pretty common sense to create products and processes in our production that maximize well-being of our workers and our community. To us, our community includes what happens when this byproduct of a production process goes to the landfill? How are we affecting the water with the materials we use? Is there toxicity? What's the carbon impact? We think it's good to think about these things since we're all in this together. When we're producing our bags and our boots, we wanted to be mindful of that impact really. We're looking and saying, "How can we both create a sustainable boot that's not just saying, 'We're sustainable,' but really it's not ... Not greenwashing, but actually creating a radically new level of connection to exactly the impact of what the products are creating?"</p>
<p>	We started and said, "What could be a potential waste stream that we could turn into an input?" About four jobs ago, I was the materials byproducts synergy coordinator for the state of Michigan. I worked for the state essentially coordinating the sharing of waste streams among Tier 1, Tier 2 suppliers, Dow Chemical, all these massive companies all throughout Michigan. My job was to make these connections. As an example, the waste from a car was turned into a bat house. This raw elemental component was used by ... That was an excess from one chemical company was used as an input for a cement manufacturer who otherwise was having to purchase the raw material. Turning "waste" into a resource, we're the only species that creates waste. Everything else, everything works and creates an input for something else. From a physics perspective, energy is never created or destroyed, so why are you producing stuff that ends? Why can't we create a full-cycle analysis on our product?</p>
<p>	When we came to our materials, both looking from how we can be different to how we can also set the bar a little higher on really being present to the possibility of creating the products that we know we need to create that we just haven't done yet. Starting from a place of what materials can we use that currently are being thrown away? Wow, it took about seven different conversations. I won't go in depth but, essentially, we landed on the opportunity to use what otherwise was a waste with leather where there was some scrap, and there was also elements that weren't being used, where we could take it, reclaim it, and instead of it getting shipped to China or thrown away, we turned it into an input for our boots.</p>
<p>	The durability is unparalleled. The testing this stuff goes through is amazing. From the UV to the actual non-rip capabilities-</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, I suppose, because it's usually for car use, right?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Definitely.</p>
<p>Romy:	So it's got to be tough, right?</p>
<p>Jarret:	The leather we get is from a facility that does R&D for about 75% of the companies that are in the Detroit Auto Show every year. It's the best of the best. Liability-wise, we can't name names of the cars, but let's just say the best of the best, and we're able to turn that into boots and different products.</p>
<p>Romy:	Where was that scrap going before, to the best of your guess?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Yeah. It was literally being shipped to China. It was shipped to China, and some of it was landfilled.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow. Do you think there's enough? I'm assuming there's enough supply of that to keep you busy for a while?</p>
<p>Jarret:	Definitely.</p>
<p>Romy:	I'm assuming.</p>
<p>Jarret:	Let's hope that the auto industry keeps growing and succeeding as it has been. As the growth continues ... You've got to do basic testing on raw materials. Sometimes there's a color differentiation that will have a hide not meet the mark. Sometimes it's when they're doing their cutting; they just can't avoid having excess. We found a sweet spot where we could turn what would otherwise be a negative and turn it into a positive, and acquiring it at a price we can afford to acquire it at, and then turn that into these high-end ... I've been beating the heck out of a pair of boots that I made with that leather, and we'll continue doing the testing for the coming years.</p>
<p>	As we grow, we'll expand to different materials as well. We would love to get into hemp. In the United States ... If you know anything about hemp, in the early days, if you were a landowner in the Founding Father days, literally it was a law that you had to grow a certain amount of hemp on your fields because of how important it was to industry at that time. The importance has never changed. We just made it illegal...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-pingree-manufacturing-detroit-77]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2089</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9fecf670-ad52-47c5-be50-20bfea3f71ee/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 00:11:38 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8b873c68-aad9-435f-a737-06fbeec3a5a1/77pingree.mp3" length="41518015" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Pingree Manufacturing of Detroit It is all about veterans on this episode!  We hear from Jarret Alan Schlaff who is the founder and the main visionary over at Pingree. He shares how the whole idea began and, even, how the name came to be near the end. You won’t want to miss it!  Stay tuned until…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Jay Rayford of Social Sushi #76</title><itunes:title>S3: Jay Rayford of Social Sushi #76</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Jay Rayford of Social Sushi</h2>
<p>Jay Rayford of Social Sushi catches us up on all of the changes in his social enterprise. He and his bigger team of four have been the champions of proving out your product through pop-ups!  You will hear how they really built a large following before even opening their restaurant. And, after our interview, Social Sushi went on to win $150,000 toward their restaurant because the community was so inspired!  And, as usual, we have a great song and Detroit artist for you to close out the show.</p>
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Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have some...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Jay Rayford of Social Sushi</h2>
<p>Jay Rayford of Social Sushi catches us up on all of the changes in his social enterprise. He and his bigger team of four have been the champions of proving out your product through pop-ups!  You will hear how they really built a large following before even opening their restaurant. And, after our interview, Social Sushi went on to win $150,000 toward their restaurant because the community was so inspired!  And, as usual, we have a great song and Detroit artist for you to close out the show.</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have some good stuff for you today. Jay Rayford of Social Sushi catches us up on all of the changes in his social enterprise. He and his bigger team of four have been the champions of proving out your product through pop-ups!  You will hear how they really built a large following before even opening their restaurant. And, after our interview, Social Sushi went on to win $150,000 toward their restaurant because the community was so inspired!  And, as usual, we have a great song and Detroit artist for you to close out the show.<br />
We have a really great fun fuel for you today – super interesting.<br />
Our fun fuel today is from Natalie Hazen. What do you have for us, Natalie?</p>
<p>(Fun Fuel)</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Okay, can I just say that was super interesting!  Wow, so good. It is amazing how sometimes dark circumstances can cause great creations to come forth! So, let’s float on that note into my interview with Jay. Now, we were sitting in a busy little café, and the background music might be a little louder than usual, so lean on in here for my interview with Jay...</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Jay:	Yes so, super excited to be back with you again. So yeah so Social Sushi now, at this point has ... We have our building on Livernois and 7 Mile in a dynamic area that's full of homes from two, three bedroom homes all the way up to mansions all within less than a miles radius around where we're going to open. It's beautiful also because I live a few blocks behind the building as well. It's super exciting to be apart of the community in both ways both from a commercial perspective and residential.</p>
<p>	We've been doing house parties in the community as well so it's a way for us to one bring neighbors together that maybe haven't come together before and also for folks that live kind of like downtown or other areas that always like "I want to find out if like these awesome communities in Detroit, I hear about these neighborhoods but I've never had a chance to really explore them", it's an opportunity for them to come together too. By the way, this sushi's great like oh my God where you guys located? Oh actually we're on the corner, we'll be relocating around the corner.</p>
<p>	It's been an exciting journey to finally get to a spot where we have a great building. The folks that own the building are amazing people. They show up to all our events and things like that as well, so it's exciting to have that energy. We're hopefully going to be open around August timeframe.</p>
<p>Romy:	Of 2017?</p>
<p>Jay:	Of 2017 and we're pushing for that, definitely, want to get open this year even if I have to open a little bit later just to make sure everything is right but this year is definitely it for us.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's awesome. For the people who might have listened to your first one in season one, you were helping some kids look at the model of a shipping container. What happened with the kids working on the shipping container? How did you transition into this particular place?</p>
<p>Jay:	The project with the shipping containers we were supposed to do a ... Hoping to build and design shipping containers that are created, built and designed by college and high school students. We were going to put it in the city park. Our rent was going to help maintain the park. That was the idea that we presented to the city to try and figure out if we could make that happen, but unfortunately, it kind of fell through for that particular project. We ended up moving on and start doing more popups and things like that, but the student project is still going on, so they're going to be doing a project on the west riverfront or possibly in the Dequindre Cut area. It's exciting for the students are still able to get that off the ground. It's going to be an amazing project. They are using more shipping containers I believe, and a lot of the students are getting college credit for being part of the project, and it's exciting for the students and everyone involved with it.</p>
<p>	During that time when we were kind of in limbo trying to figure out what's happening with that project we applied for Motor City Match and were able to find a building.  Motor City Match is a program that pairs building owners with business owners and provides some technical assistance and also some loan providers at the table as well. We found a good position to be in and a great up and coming community. I think we're going to be calling it uptown pretty soon. It's between Avenue of Fashion and also another project that's happening on Livernois and 6 Mile with a lot of community development happening there University of Detroit and Marygrove being more [inaudible 00:03:50] in the community and developing together.</p>
<p>Romy:	You're such a catalyst I've noticed about this since we met some years ago. You get people all fired up and off and spinning and onto the next thing.</p>
<p>	Let's talk about pop-ups for a minute. Pop-ups are one of my favorite ways to demonstrate that clients want to buy your product, but in my mind, you've taken it to a whole new level because you pop-up everywhere and you've been popping up for a long time. You've built not just a fan base of repeating customers, but you've gotten in front of a lot of people. I feel like you've mastered the pop-up and I'd love to get anything you want to say about what you've learned about popups because I think it's so beneficial to social entrepreneurs, well any entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>Jay:	Absolutely. I like to refer to our popups is our minimal valuable product, our MVP. It's a way for us to test out like is this really what people want? It's been amazing because we've been able to deliver a sustainable product, a simple product. We don't do anything really extravagant with our sushi right now. It's just really basic Cali roll, [inaudible 00:05:05], you know Philly roll. We have two kind of like classics that we've created at this point. One is called the What-up-doe roll that has Better Made barbecue chips where a chip company that's kind of known here in Detroit and made in Detroit as well as Rock and Rye  sauce. Rock and Rye is part of the Faygo brand which is also a Detroit brand. We try and do some creative things to kind of like show the ‘Detroitness’ of our sushi right, so Detroit sushi brand is kind of a term we've been using lately.</p>
<p>	With the pop-ups, again it's a way to we want to bring people together but also from the viewpoint of the places we pop-up in so it's always been about how do we create exposure for other places while we're also building our brand and things like that. We're always looking for win-win-win situations. Whether it's in a bar we bring in food to their establishment and bring in customers that maybe haven't been to that bar before and they're able to make the money on the bar, we make our money on the food, and our customers and their customers are happy from this experience. It's a win, win, win situation in just about everything that we do. I think that's been ... I think not even the secret sauce but a sauce that I feel like really works well because when you're able to create value for other people that takes the relationship to a whole other level.</p>
<p>Romy:	Let's talk about maybe the relationships especially I'd love to hear feedback of when you've been at a place, and you brought them business and how you continue to foster those relationships with not just I guess potential vendors or potential locations, but you also foster the relationships between some of the customers too right?</p>
<p>Jay:	Absolutely. With the building owners, it's been everything from like say a local bars to art galleries to nonprofits doing fundraisers, things of that nature. Like I said the awareness for those spaces always continue so even beyond what we do with our popup, own relationship with them is always figuring out ways that we could plug them into other opportunities as well where folks are just like "Hey I'm looking for space to do an event, like you do events all over the place like can you connect me to some folks?" Like, absolutely. Because of that relationship that we have with the spaces sometimes we're able to see some amazing things happen that are independent of us but that's part of the magic I think of building a community around what we do.</p>
<p>	Even with the folks that come together, so when we first started the whole concept was around the problem that we were hoping to solve is there's some amazing people doing amazing things in their own circles all around the city and so what my goal was to pluck some people out from all these different circles and bring them together. I think naturally now we have just a really diverse group that comes together and when those people converge and meet it's just whatever happens right at that point, and I try to do it in a way that's not programmed. It's like hey come together [inaudible 00:08:16] you know there are folks talking and asking what type of sushi they had, and it sparked a conversation and things like that. Just really trying to bring some just real authentic, just natural way of networking without calling it networking. A lot of people have this kind of like detachment from networking like "ew I don't like being in a space with strangers and figuring out how to like what do I start talking about?" We enter food into the equation it changes things. It's been really great.</p>
<p>Romy:	Do you have any tips for someone else who's trying to curate that experience?  I mean I don't like the word curate because it sounds controlling but I feel like you've got a lot subtle tips on how you've done that, like small things, maybe things you've put at tables or messaging that you do? I don't know what they are I threw that out but-</p>
<p>Jay:	I think for me I think I'm in a kind of unique position to where I love networking. I'm always present in a lot of different spaces so like the relationship sometimes starts there like oh yeah I saw you at this place, you know I like oh you're doing an event? That kind of is a theme there.</p>
<p>	Even with at the popups that we were doing at Our Detroit we introduced a program called the Social [inaudible 00:09:30] Program. The whole idea behind that was it was because I wanted to test it out again MVP. I use an actually physical punch card which the top line was what I call the selfie line, so if you come in by yourself, we can give you a punch for coming in and think you for the support. At different levels, for example, every third punch there is some type of offer, and then for the groupie one, it was kind of similar but maybe like after five people you get something free or something like that. We wanted to create a way to get people excited about one, bringing their friends together but also if they [inaudible 00:10:11] maybe has this kind of detachment to sushi like "I don't know how sushi's raw" no it's not. Come check it out. Even if you want to just come have a drink or come for the networking piece you can. It's just some ways like that that we can incentivize kind of this social behavior through food.</p>
<p>Romy:	And being inviting. You're really inviting and encouraging to people. I feel like you speak life into people all the time like oh you can do it. I think that doesn't hurt in any way.</p>
<p>Jay:	Oh absolutely. I think a lot of times what I've always wanted to do is be approachable, be someone that someone wouldn't mind like "Hey I got this idea I just run it by you" and being open to "yeah, I have 10 minutes sure let's talk about it." Being able to connect some dots and share some resources because the other hashtag I use a lot if hashtag better together. I feel like if we do, with the climate of things that are happening here in Detroit, the best way to go about doing it is doing it together. Sharing resources, collaborations.</p>
<p>	So for our last pop-up, we had a Canadian deejay there which is awesome supporting that cross-border relationship. Also, a young entrepreneur that does t-shirts, a brand called Cool Club Clothing. He made these shirts that said Detroit Loves Sushi for us and sell them there at the event as well. It's like these okay you're doing a t-shirt brand in what way do I think I need t-shirts so what way can we work this together and expose you to our audience as well? And vice versa because he has a younger audience than I have and so it's like maybe we can introduce them to sushi as well you know, make it a cool thing. I think we need to just step back and kind of just look at networking as a way to build authentic relationships with people versus like what can I get from this person?</p>
<p>	It's just like who are you as a person? One of the biggest things I used to ask at networking events that threw people of was like "Hey, how you doing? What's your passion?" And quickly they want to say what they do for work, and it's like wait, my passion wow no one ever asked me that. I think it really is boiled down to getting beyond what someone does for a living or what can I get from this person but who are you as a human being? I just want to know about that. I think once you get to that point [inaudible 00:12:47] you have support system that's long lasting and they're going continue to share with their friends like "Hey you have to meet this guy" or "You have to go to this thing and get this experience because they're really great people".</p>
<p>	Everything from folks that have been part of our personal networks but also it's gotten to the point now where we attract people that we don't know ourselves. There's actually been times where I've been in the space where people will talk about Social Sushi and not know that it's me.  [inaudible 00:13:16] that feels so great to be able to get to that point because it's become bigger than us. For some people, it's about the food but other people it's about the entire experience. If I can bring every level of the person together whether you come because you want to network with some folks and you already ate, or you don't like sushi or things like that you can still have fun in an environment where just people are coming together just to have fun, and maybe you know what? If I meet somebody great and we have start a friendship or start a business together or just support each other. Just to know where the things are happening in the city and being able to be in the know I think is a huge thing.</p>
<p>Romy:	I do too. I feel ... Have you noticed people feel encouraged to team up and collaborate more once they've tried it? I found that to be true and I completely associate you with collaboration at all levels from promoting Detroit in general on social media to you're willing to go and speak at all kinds of things and teach people, and I just wonder, I'd love to get your thoughts on what you see from your perspective. Are you noticing more Detroiters coming together from all different, because I notice different ages, different neighborhoods, different backgrounds, economic, some are native, some moved here, but there is, in my opinion, a collaborative nature and I think in a large part it has to do with you?...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-jay-rayford-social-sushi-76]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2082</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e7444672-a7a0-45fa-b829-683686b5a240/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2017 00:19:54 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f7ccea39-a9e1-4cb7-beab-6eaa880668ab/76socialsushi.mp3" length="47995663" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:16</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Jay Rayford of Social Sushi Jay Rayford of Social Sushi catches us up on all of the changes in his social enterprise. He and his bigger team of four have been the champions of proving out your product through pop-ups!  You will hear how they really built a large following before even opening their restaurant.…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Motown Rising Jacob de Golish #75</title><itunes:title>S3: Motown Rising Jacob de Golish #75</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Motown Rising with  Jacob de Golish!</h2>
<p>This episode has a lot to do with building, construction, restoration and the skilled trades. Jacob walks us through a large part of his journey, how he arrived in Detroit from Los Angeles and how he was inspired to hire men from the neighborhood for the transformation of homes. We had a chance to visit some of the Airbnb’s and man; you have to come and visit at stay at some of the places whenever you get the chance!</p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have Jacob De Golish from Motown Rising today!  We have Luke Trombley on with a fun fuel and SleepyWondr with their song ‘Loving You’ at the end. A talented line-up to be sure.  This episode has a lot to do with building, construction, restoration and the skilled trades. Jacob will walk us through a large part of his journey, how he arrived in Detroit from Los Angeles and how he was inspired to hire men from the neighborhood for the transformation of homes. We had a chance to visit some of the Airbnb’s and man; you have to come and visit at stay at some of the places whenever you get the chance!<br />
First, I would like to introduce a new voice to the podcast; Luke Trombley will be sharing some fun Fuels for the next few episodes. What do you have for us today, Luke?</p>
<p>Hi! This is Luke Trombley and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
While on the topic of construction, the great pyramids- while they’re one of the seven wonders of the ancient world- are also one of the constructional wonders of the world.<br />
The pyramid is estimated to have around 2,300,000 stone blocks that weigh from 2 to 30 tons each and there are even some blocks that weigh over 50 tons. Also, if we tried to build an exact replica of this pyramid, it would not be possible. We do not have the precise technology that the ancient Egyptians had that was necessary to build this pyramid.<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the Episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke, that’s great. We look forward to your fun fuels on the next several episodes. Let’s get right to my interview with Jacob. I had the good fortune of interviewing him in person while sitting in one of his great properties. If you have a chance, we put some pictures in the show notes for this episode which you can access from the bonfires of social enterprise website. Back to the interview, let’s listen in now….</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Jacob:	Yeah, we're in one of the Airbnb properties in Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	So let's talk about Motown Rising then. What is Motown Rising as a social enterprise?</p>
<p>Jacob:	So, Motown Rising is a real estate company. We invest in real estate in Detroit, in one particular area at this point in time. We buy homes, rehab them and rent them out, so it's a holding company, and...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Motown Rising with  Jacob de Golish!</h2>
<p>This episode has a lot to do with building, construction, restoration and the skilled trades. Jacob walks us through a large part of his journey, how he arrived in Detroit from Los Angeles and how he was inspired to hire men from the neighborhood for the transformation of homes. We had a chance to visit some of the Airbnb’s and man; you have to come and visit at stay at some of the places whenever you get the chance!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr3.png"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr2.png"></a></p>
<p>More Before and After Photos of the work of Motown Rising!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2121" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr1-270x300.png" alt="mr1" width="270" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr1-270x300.png 270w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/mr1.png 686w" sizes="(max-width: 270px) 100vw, 270px" /></a></p>
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			<p><p>Introduction<br />
Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have Jacob De Golish from Motown Rising today!  We have Luke Trombley on with a fun fuel and SleepyWondr with their song ‘Loving You’ at the end. A talented line-up to be sure.  This episode has a lot to do with building, construction, restoration and the skilled trades. Jacob will walk us through a large part of his journey, how he arrived in Detroit from Los Angeles and how he was inspired to hire men from the neighborhood for the transformation of homes. We had a chance to visit some of the Airbnb’s and man; you have to come and visit at stay at some of the places whenever you get the chance!<br />
First, I would like to introduce a new voice to the podcast; Luke Trombley will be sharing some fun Fuels for the next few episodes. What do you have for us today, Luke?</p>
<p>Hi! This is Luke Trombley and I am bringing you the fun fuel for this episode.<br />
While on the topic of construction, the great pyramids- while they’re one of the seven wonders of the ancient world- are also one of the constructional wonders of the world.<br />
The pyramid is estimated to have around 2,300,000 stone blocks that weigh from 2 to 30 tons each and there are even some blocks that weigh over 50 tons. Also, if we tried to build an exact replica of this pyramid, it would not be possible. We do not have the precise technology that the ancient Egyptians had that was necessary to build this pyramid.<br />
I hope you enjoyed this fun fuel. Enjoy the Episode!</p>
<p>Transition<br />
Thanks, Luke, that’s great. We look forward to your fun fuels on the next several episodes. Let’s get right to my interview with Jacob. I had the good fortune of interviewing him in person while sitting in one of his great properties. If you have a chance, we put some pictures in the show notes for this episode which you can access from the bonfires of social enterprise website. Back to the interview, let’s listen in now….</p>
<p>Main Interview<br />
Jacob:	Yeah, we're in one of the Airbnb properties in Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	So let's talk about Motown Rising then. What is Motown Rising as a social enterprise?</p>
<p>Jacob:	So, Motown Rising is a real estate company. We invest in real estate in Detroit, in one particular area at this point in time. We buy homes, rehab them and rent them out, so it's a holding company, and in the process we have a nonprofit and the social part of that is we hire people of the community, teach them skill trades of their choice, so they actually get paid to learn a skill trade.</p>
<p>Romy:	We're gonna come back to that. So it's a real estate and for some people that might not understand holding company, would you say you're buying homes and renovating them?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, so we buy homes, renovate them, and hold them and rent them out.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and sometimes for a longer term than just an overnight, right?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Right, oh yeah, long-term, we're looking at five to 10 years.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, well great. So how did you even get started doing something like this?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Oh, man. So, originally born and raised in Los Angeles. I was a real estate flipper and a developer, right when I finished high school. I had a really great mentor out there, and we started flipping homes, raising capital from investors, and then the market dried up, it got super dry and ... could I restart that?</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Okay.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, so how'd you get started in this?</p>
<p>Jacob:	So ... okay, hold on.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, she'll cut everything else.</p>
<p>Jacob:	She'll cut it out, okay.</p>
<p>	So I got started in real estate at 18 years old as soon as I finished high school. I originally started in Los Angeles as a flipper, and a developer and I got tired of having no community impact in what we were doing out there. It's very cutthroat, the deals are tough, you're bidding against 20 people sometimes and I just got tired of it, so I figured why not go to a place where we can actually make a difference in the community, and our work goes to something bigger than just us. That's how I originally ended up in Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy:	How'd you get Detroit specifically?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Well, it's funny. I was doing research on Detroit at the time, and I came across a website where you can buy houses for $500 bucks, so I got super stoked on the $500 house and that night I decided, "You know what? I'm gonna just buy 10 houses tonight," and I was looking on a map and was saying, "Okay, anything close to water should be good. Anything close to a school should be good," so we bought 10 houses for $500 bucks and two weeks later we got the deeds, and I was like, "Oh my God, we actually bought houses in ... like I didn't know what ... it was a really sketchy website, and we just took the risk and so we got the deeds. I told my partner, my mentor at the time, I was like, "Look, dude, I just bought 10 houses in Detroit. Do you want to check these out?" And he's like, "Sure, let's go."</p>
<p>	So we came out to Detroit, fell in love with it, saw just how beautiful the city was, the infrastructure that was here. It was sad to see the derelict houses, but it was also exciting because you had the opportunity to actually make something happen.</p>
<p>	At first, we started trying to do it remotely. So we hired a contractor out here when we were in California, didn't end up going so well, and at that point, I decided, "You know what? To make this thing really happen, I have to move to Detroit."</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and how long ago was that?</p>
<p>Jacob:	That was about two-and-a-half years ago.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, wow, and how many houses do you have now?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Now we have about 40 houses. The original houses I bought were not, to say the least, were not in the best areas at all. So having been here, I've been able to really pinpoint an area, pinpoint a market and really create something. I was really scattered before.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and for the people who are listening locally, you're near Woodward. What's this area called?</p>
<p>Jacob:	So this area North End New Center area.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, it's a great area. If you're from Detroit or you come to Detroit, this is a high-growth area and some really neat homes. So now you have this many houses, some are rented out, how did you start to recognize that you wanted to hire local and teach it, cause you teach too?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, you teach about construction, right?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Right. It really came organically. In this particular area, North End New Center, we were working on a couple homes, and people of the community were coming to us on a daily basis, saying, "Hey, do you have any work for us? Do you have anything that we can do for the day." We were in the process of building our crew, so we didn't know ... and when I say we, it's my partner/foreman out here who's in the trenches with me, but we decided, "You know what? These guys have not seen growth in their neighborhood for however many years. They're finally starting to see people working on houses, so how can we incorporate them into what we're doing?" Cause I think that's super important in Detroit, is ... what's the word?</p>
<p>Romy:	To integrate.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Incorporating both communities, the new and the old.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Jacob:	You know what I mean?</p>
<p>Romy:	You made a statement that it's really important that you do integrate the old with the new coming in. There had to be a why in there that became important or was there a trigger, event or it just became obvious after a while?</p>
<p>Jacob:	There was a trigger event where we were working on a house, and this young guy walked past, and he had his video recorder out, and he was recording us working on the house and saying, "This is gentrification at its finest. This is what ruins neighborhoods," and all that. I thought about it, and I was like, "We're not trying to gentrify anything," but gentrification has a horrible connotation to it.</p>
<p>	As a developer, I could see the developer side, as a community member, I could see the community member side and I think that was actually the triggering moment where we had to figure out really we don't want that term label with what we do and I'm coming into a new neighborhood where I don't know anyone, and I have to really understand what these people have been through, the struggles that they've had and how can we make it better? So that was actually a defining moment.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, I feel like there's always those events or moments that are pivotal for us as entrepreneurs that, if we're paying attention, is an opportunity to do something cool even though it can feel prickly for a minute, but if you allow yourself to lean into that, you can come out with some neat stuff.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Right.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
	So how did you start hiring the first people or did you just start by making room for them on your team? You had to probably quickly discover there had to be a training element. These weren't people who were already high skilled in carpentry or plumbing or electrical.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So the funniest thing is anytime we take on a new hire, we always ask them, "Okay, what can you do?" And every single one of them, without fail, say, "I can do everything. I can build a house from the ground up," and that's often not the case at all.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh, right.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So, what we do is we say, "Okay, go home, get your boots, come to work," and we'll put them on certain assignments and we'll kinda gauge where they're at. Most of them don't generally have any skills.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So we'll start everyone in the same position. We'll start them as laborers, so that's demo work, cleanup, and helping some of our other guys with whatever they need. At that point, we'll see if they're taking it seriously so we have set guidelines, which is we work from 8:30 to 5:00 every day or Monday through Friday, show up on time, say please and thank you, just soft skills like that. When they start taking that seriously, then we'll say, "Okay, if you could learn any skill trade in this house right now, what would you learn?" And they'll generally say, "I'd like to learn plumbing or electrical or roofing or framing."</p>
<p>	So whatever they choose, okay, let's say it's electrical. "You will work with our master electrician. He's a master at what he does, and he's gonna guide you and mentor you and teach you how to run wires." So the next day, you're literally running wire, you are learning how to set up panels and how to do plugs and set up a room for outlets and where the lights go and all that. The idea behind that is that as we grow and we have more properties, now the mentees have turned into mentors and they're now able to mentor the new mentees.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, so smart, yeah.</p>
<p>Jacob:	And if that's not the case and they're really good, and they want to go work on their own projects, even better. That's the goal that we have for them, and they generally take it.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, they generally go off and do their projects? [crosstalk 00:13:39]</p>
<p>Jacob:	No, they generally take the opportunity to shine.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>Jacob:	But every single guy who has worked for us, at least our main crew, which is about 35 guys, they've all been with us since we've been here.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's amazing, and I know you do some other things like they actually go on a payroll, so they're paying payroll tax and FICA and all that.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Right, so that was a huge obstacle that we had to overcome because a lot of these guys when they started with us, they didn't even have IDs, they didn't have any sort of bank account. We wanted to be a legit company, so we said, "Okay, look, here's the deal. We need you guys to get on payroll. We need to help you set up your IDs, your bank accounts. You're gonna be a respectable citizen now."</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, right. Did that surprise you at all about this area? That there's so many that don't have bank accounts?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, I was pretty surprised at that, but it kinda made sense if you take a step back and you look at it. What we do is we try to take the people that most employers would turn away and we want to build a superstar team. We want to build a winning team with them.</p>
<p>Romy:	Oh my gosh, awesome.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So a lot of these guys have insane records. They just haven't had opportunities like most people have had, so what happens in that situation? Well, in order to survive, you do things that you shouldn't do, but you need to survive.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's right, yep.</p>
<p>Jacob:	And then eventually you're gonna get caught, these guys get caught, and now they have a record and now what are they gonna do?</p>
<p>Romy:	Right, bad cycle.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, it's a horrible cycle and they can't do anything, so that's why they don't have bank accounts, driver's license, is because they try to stay under the radar, but now that they have employment every single day, and the only thing they need to worry about is what they're gonna get finished on that day rather than how are they gonna eat today, makes a huge difference and makes them feel comfortable, and they don't have to worry about a lot of the things they used to have to worry about.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, I think people act differently when they're not in survival mode. Their true personality comes out when they're able to be relaxed, their creativity comes out, they let themselves learn things, you're not feeling all confrontational all the time, it's a different thing.</p>
<p>	While we're right on that, is there anything that really surprised you, that you're like, "Wow, I say I believe in people, people shock me sometimes at the levels they rise to on their own if given an opportunity?"</p>
<p>Jacob:	Absolutely, so when I go back into some of the first properties we were working on, and I think back, "Okay, how long did this take us to do and what is the quality of work?" When we were first starting out, houses were taking us three to four months to complete, and the work would be C-grade, and then, with the same team, just with guidance and with persistence and dedication and work ethic that we've been able to instill in these guys, we're getting the same houses done in under 30 days, with A-level quality.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, yeah, wow.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So it shows you that it can be done, you just need to put the time and effort into it.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, and patience to help teach people when they repeatedly make mistakes. My husband is in remodeling, and that's why he's like, "Oh, you gotta have a lot of patience to teach those that are just learning."</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yep, absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, so let's go on to houses for a second. The houses, we've been in a couple of them that you've taken us around, they're beautiful on the inside. Let's talk about some of your modeling about ... cause you have somewhat of a template with colors and that, right?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Right.</p>
<p>Romy:	To make it a little easier?</p>
<p>Jacob:	So back to the business, we do run a rental business, so all these properties are rented, and it's easiest if everything is the same, down to the thermostats. So you have the same thermostats, you have the same plugs and switches, you have the same tile and lights, and that's for in case anything goes wrong you don't need to come back and say, "Okay, what color paint is this? How do we ...  cuts down our efficiencies. Being incredibly efficient is how we're able to survive with the social aspect.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Jacob:	So we have different templates for different houses, but we try to use the same paints, essentially the same template.</p>
<p>Romy:	Similar, they're all similar, yeah. They're all unique, of course.</p>
<p>Jacob:	They're all unique, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:	Then let's talk about the decorating and that. You're using some local artists, and you've gotta cool way to get furniture in there.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, so for the Airbnbs, we've partnered with local Detroit artists and what they do is a lot of artists have extra work that they're waiting for their next gallery or their next showing to sell it, so it essentially sits in a corner and Detroit has some of the best artists in the world, amazing artists. So what we did is we partnered with some artists to house the Airbnbs with their art, so it's essentially a living art gallery cause it changes all the time, with the idea that they sell to the guests that stay in the houses. The artists get 100% of the proceeds if they sell anything, we'll ship it out for them and do all that. Incorporating art into the community is, I think, very, very important as well.</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah, it's beautiful. I love that you've integrated even that and then you pick up some of the furniture-</p>
<p>Jacob:	So all the furniture is either stuff that we've found in abandoned houses or estate sales, so it's all recycled furniture, that's how we put it together.</p>
<p>Romy:	Do you have a place that you store some of that in between or is it sort of juggling it around?</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, it's all juggling.</p>
<p>Romy:	I was gonna say, that's what most of us are doing, but you just make it work.</p>
<p>Jacob:	Yeah, and the best part is ... So we'll go ‘estate-sale-ing’ at least five weeks before we have a new property coming up and we have no idea how it's gonna look, but we're just buying pieces that we like and that we think are cool and then, once the house is done and we start moving all the furniture in, that's when we're like, "Okay, how is this gonna work out?" But somehow we always make it work.</p>
<p>Romy:	That's...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-motown-rising-jacob-de-golish-75]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2092</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/43b7d260-ab1a-4d27-a988-ffcc21b3d014/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2017 00:17:04 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d1c707b0-294e-4bdc-a4d7-0cd4f680186a/75motownrising.mp3" length="45090291" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Motown Rising with  Jacob de Golish! This episode has a lot to do with building, construction, restoration and the skilled trades. Jacob walks us through a large part of his journey, how he arrived in Detroit from Los Angeles and how he was inspired to hire men from the neighborhood for the transformation of homes.…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Keep Up with the ‘Jones’s with Jonezie- Episode #74</title><itunes:title>S3: Keep Up with the ‘Jones’s with Jonezie- Episode #74</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Check out the creative solution to community renting of personal items with the  guys from Jonezie of Ferndale, Michigan</h2>
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			<p><p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise with me! Romy. Yup, you have me again for another conversation with an innovative social enterprise.<br />
On this episode, we talk with Matt and Lenny from a new platform called Jonezie. They have moved back to Michigan from other experiences in social enterprise around the globe to create this great community rental program. </p>
<p>Let's drop in now on the entire conversation....</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. So we've got Lenny and Matt here, guys, on the show with us.</p>
<p>    So let's talk about what's Jonezie?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Good question, take it away Len.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Well Jonezie is a platform that let's people list anything that they might have that they don't use all the time. They can list it on Jonezie, and someone in the area can rent it from them. You make a little extra money, and someone in your area doesn't have to go drain their savings account buying the item, they can just rent it for a couple of days or however long they need it and ... you know ... they both win.</p>
<p>Romy:    So for our listeners in some of the other countries, when we say platform that might be like a digital platform, an online platform, right?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay.</p>
<p>    Great.</p>
<p>    So how did you guys come up with this idea?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Well I ... me and my wife, girlfriend at the time, just moved into our house. It was like the first nice day out here in Michigan, and everyone was out riding their bikes, or running, and I just really was craving a bike ride. We went to the store, and I realized a decent bike was like anywhere from six hundred to eight hundred dollars. I mean I could have bought them, but I knew I would have ended up with buyers remorse or we wouldn't end up using them and they would be in the basement and our house is kind of small, so it's like more things taking up more space. We were sitting on the porch ... we didn't end up buying the bikes, and I saw our neighbor, they came in, him and his wife, and they were on their bikes and it was like "How cool would it be if I could just give em like twenty dollars, I'd use their bikes, drop em off when we're done, he'd make a little side cash to go out to dinner with, and we got our bike ride.". So as the night went on, I kept on thinking about it.</p>
<p>    Next day I called Matt, and I was like, "Listen I think I have something here. I want to know your thoughts.". Matt was my entrepreneur friend, so I felt like it was appropriate to reach out to him and just play the idea off of him. We kept on talking about it and we ended up talking more about it, and we're like, "Should we do this?", and I was like "Yeah. How do we do this?". He was like, "Well, we are gonna build a landing page and let's gauge what our networks think. If they think it's a good idea maybe we discuss it more.". That's exactly what we did.</p>
<p>Romy:    The virtual world of pop-up. Those are the retail pop-up, it's the virtual pop-up that's the landing page isn't it?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Right, exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh good.</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise with me! Romy. Yup, you have me again for another conversation with an innovative social enterprise.<br />
On this episode, we talk with Matt and Lenny from a new platform called Jonezie. They have moved back to Michigan from other experiences in social enterprise around the globe to create this great community rental program. </p>
<p>Let's drop in now on the entire conversation....</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. So we've got Lenny and Matt here, guys, on the show with us.</p>
<p>    So let's talk about what's Jonezie?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Good question, take it away Len.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Well Jonezie is a platform that let's people list anything that they might have that they don't use all the time. They can list it on Jonezie, and someone in the area can rent it from them. You make a little extra money, and someone in your area doesn't have to go drain their savings account buying the item, they can just rent it for a couple of days or however long they need it and ... you know ... they both win.</p>
<p>Romy:    So for our listeners in some of the other countries, when we say platform that might be like a digital platform, an online platform, right?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay.</p>
<p>    Great.</p>
<p>    So how did you guys come up with this idea?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Well I ... me and my wife, girlfriend at the time, just moved into our house. It was like the first nice day out here in Michigan, and everyone was out riding their bikes, or running, and I just really was craving a bike ride. We went to the store, and I realized a decent bike was like anywhere from six hundred to eight hundred dollars. I mean I could have bought them, but I knew I would have ended up with buyers remorse or we wouldn't end up using them and they would be in the basement and our house is kind of small, so it's like more things taking up more space. We were sitting on the porch ... we didn't end up buying the bikes, and I saw our neighbor, they came in, him and his wife, and they were on their bikes and it was like "How cool would it be if I could just give em like twenty dollars, I'd use their bikes, drop em off when we're done, he'd make a little side cash to go out to dinner with, and we got our bike ride.". So as the night went on, I kept on thinking about it.</p>
<p>    Next day I called Matt, and I was like, "Listen I think I have something here. I want to know your thoughts.". Matt was my entrepreneur friend, so I felt like it was appropriate to reach out to him and just play the idea off of him. We kept on talking about it and we ended up talking more about it, and we're like, "Should we do this?", and I was like "Yeah. How do we do this?". He was like, "Well, we are gonna build a landing page and let's gauge what our networks think. If they think it's a good idea maybe we discuss it more.". That's exactly what we did.</p>
<p>Romy:    The virtual world of pop-up. Those are the retail pop-up, it's the virtual pop-up that's the landing page isn't it?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Right, exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh good.</p>
<p>    Did you ever ask your neighbor for the bike or it was just, it just planted that idea?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Recently I told him about it because he keeps on wondering why there's so many cars parked at my house. Well its ... I had an idea cause I saw you riding your bike. He's like "Oh. [inaudible 0:4:01]"</p>
<p>Romy:    No kidding, that's so good!</p>
<p>    What did he think of it?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Loves it.</p>
<p>Romy:    Well good, so what happened when you guys started that? You put up a web landing page and ...</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah. That was day one, and that was sort of like, we were sort of like, "Okay, how can we default the action right the now? How can we try to validate whether or not other people are going to be just as excited about this idea as we are?". So quickly put up that landing page and just pushed it out on social media. Lenny and I both made a post on Facebook and Instagram, and it was basically like URL was just detroitrentalsinc.com, and the text on the landing page just said: "rent anything from anyone in your area." Literally went on google and just searched for a garage and that was the image of it. So it were just an image of a garage and said: "rent anything from anyone." I don't know, maybe this is good, this is all we need right now to see if people are actually, gonna be attracted to the idea.</p>
<p>    We posted on social media and we started getting phone calls, and text messages, and people were leaving comments, and people were saying "oh my gosh, I wanna list my camping equipment", or "I want to rent a belt sander so I build a coffee table". I think the idea then expanded beyond what originally even thought it could be because of everyone else's excitement, and we were like less about us and this is more about building something for everyone else around us. It seemed like there was demand there. So we kind of just looked at each other and we're like, "Okay. We actually have to do something.". We have to figure out how to build the actual platform so that people can list stuff, and rent things, and I don't have a background in writing code or programming, nor does Lenny. One of the first things we did, was we jumped in the car and went to Ann Arbor and basically at U of M's campus in the computer science building, trying to look for developers.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh my gosh. Awesome.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Knocking of the shoulders of different students and we're like, "Hey, you look like you might know something about programming, would you be interested in helping us?". It was just like, "No, no, you guys are weird. I want nothing to do with this.". We had zero credibility, we were just two guys that showed up at this college campus and talked to probably fifteen or twenty people, tried tollering up.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Played a couple games of Foosball.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Nothing worked. So we were like, "Okay, back to the drawing board. We need to find a programmer, but we just don't have one.". We ended up posting something on Upwork, which is essentially if you are looking for a freelancer or if you want to be a freelancer, then you can sort of get connected to people that way. That's when we found Andy.</p>
<p>    Andy is co-founder of Jonezie and he is just sort of a Godsend. He is an amazing dude.</p>
<p>Zachary:    He's a prodigy. He's self taught. He's ...</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Never says "No.", and if he doesn't know how to do something, he teaches himself how to do it ... no [inaudible 0:7:11] vocabulary.</p>
<p>    Another cool fact about the day up to Ann Arbor was also the day we figured out the name Jonezie.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Totally</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah the name.</p>
<p>Zachary:    I still remember that day so clearly.</p>
<p>Matthew:    It's a magical day.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    It was a very magical day.</p>
<p>Romy:    Let's go there.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Yeah. We were just planning out the idea. We're like, "You know, the landing page, we can't keep it a Detroit Rental Inc forever.". It's ... we want to be more than just Detroit on a day and that just not a name to go with. So we ... for like weeks we were just going back and forth of names, which is probably the most fun ... doing your own businesses and naming your baby.</p>
<p>Romy:    Right.</p>
<p>Zachary:    And you don't want to do it lightly. It took a couple weeks but that was the ... or a week or so ... we drove up to Ann Arbor we were playing off each other like, "What are you thinking?". I'm like, "Keep up with the Jones'". Matt was like "Jones', yeah I've heard that term before and that's cool.", but I'm like "That's also like I'm jonesing to go on a bike ride or like ... you just wanting to go do something.". We kept on playing with Jones' and then it turned in to Jonezie.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, it's so catchy and easy.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    It's refreshing. It's got like this refreshing feel, but I get it. It's a lot of fun with it. Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah and I think that was a big goal for, it to, was that what we have realized with Jonezie and people that are actually listing stuff and renting it out to other people is there is kind of a level of discomfort involved in something that you own, that you've loved, there's probably some form of sentimental value there, and to be willing to rent it out to someone in your area there's like a little bit of discomfort. The way that we are really focused on building a brand is all around trust, right? When it comes to the name Jonezie, we just think it's fun, it's playful, it's trustworthy, it's approachable, and we just felt like it was ... as soon as we came up with it we were like, "Oh my gosh, that's perfect!".</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, that's so good.</p>
<p>    How did you come to realize that there is this sort of awkwardness about people renting out their private stuff? It sounds so good in theory, but when you go to say "Oh wow am I gonna let that go out to someone I don't know?" Everyone was like ... I showed your site to a bunch of people, I was super excited after I met you and-</p>
<p>Matthew:    Cool. Thank you for doing that.</p>
<p>Romy:    People were like, "Oh my gosh, that's so awesome!", and then I go "So what could you post on there to rent?". I was trying to be action oriented, and they're like, "I don't know, I would have to think about that, like, does the stuff come back?". All of a sudden they posing all these questions, I'm like-</p>
<p>Matthew:    Right.</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow, so how did you, did it just organically started to come up as you asked people?</p>
<p>Zachary:    Yeah and that's exactly how ... like we said we put up the link</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, and that's exactly how it looked. So like we said, we put up the landing page, we put up the idea of what we were gonna be working on. And that reaction was awesome; people had so many ideas. I mean, today people are still connecting dots, for my how Jonji is. But it wasn't until we actually started building the site, and testing the site where I would go to my friends and I'd be like, "All right, well love the idea let's start listing some things." And they're like, "Ooooh, yeah. About that." I don't want to rent anything, I like the idea but I don't want to rent anything, so that there's gonna be - we're gonna have to build a very trustful company and yeah, that's what it's gonna take.</p>
<p>    It's more than just the idea. You have to build a company that people rely on, and people that trust when I'm gonna put it up that my things are secure. Like, if something happens, I'm okay at the end of it. We had to really go to drawing board on how do we make that happen? How do we ensure that everyone's happy at the end of the day? It's still getting tweaked out every now and then, but I think we're there. Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, but I think you guys are hitting on something that's so important for us to address as a society. I mean, we're a bit too attached to our stuff.</p>
<p>Matthew:    100 percent.</p>
<p>Romy:    For sure.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    I think.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:    And it's we can't be in this place of like, "Oh I've hoarded enough, therefore I'm gonna give it to the charity." There is this middle space.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Right. Right.</p>
<p>Romy:    Nothing wrong with that, but like stuff you only use once a year or twice a year, or whatever, that could be available. So one question I had, and I'm like diving in for it personally, is I noticed on your site you're starting with the geographic area, right? Is it Oakland County of Michigan?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, it's primarily Southeast Michigan.</p>
<p>Speaker 2:    Okay.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    So one of the questions I had, personally, is my husband and I moved way out in the - we are on the very Northwestern tip of Oakland County. We're like way up there.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Okay.</p>
<p>Romy:    We moved way out in the rural area from the city, and we have a bunch of stuff and we thought, "So how does that work with people if you live on the edge of the area?"</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    How does it work to get the stuff to people?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, so that is sort of up to the lister. You, as the lister, we really hope that people that are listing these things are gonna be super motivated to help out their renter. But at the end of the day, we also think that the renter should be motivated enough to go to the lister to pick up those items.</p>
<p>Romy:    So either way.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, so if I'm renting something from you, I think sort of the default is, I'm gonna come get it from you. And then when I'm done with it I'm gonna drop it back off to you. But there might be some cases, and we're just not sure yet, because I don't think we have enough data. It's still super early, like we launched our beta two months ago, so we're still sort of in this phase where we're still figuring stuff out, and we don't necessarily have all the answers but we are starting to build assumptions. So as a default, the renter would go and pick up the item, and then when they're done with it they would go and drop it off as well.</p>
<p>Romy:    So we'll see. That's a test for me to put some stuff up on at the edge of ...</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah. Yeah, the theory is that ...</p>
<p>Speaker 2:    Northwest Michigan.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    See what happens, I'll be your test case.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, sure, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    Well, cool. So what are you noticing from a social perspective? There's always, in my opinion when you're doing social enterprise, there's always sort of that initial inspiration and thought.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yup.</p>
<p>Romy:    And then there's the reality of all the other things that you find and discover ripple off of that. What was your original, and what are you starting to witness?</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, so I think one of the originals for me was just the fact that it could really help people save money, you know? But a lot of, for me personally, I was in a situation when I was working on a socially conscious company out in Los Angeles. And there were months that were really, really tough. And in those months that it was really tough and I was sort of running out of money, I wanted to leave town and go camping, but I didn't necessarily have all the camping gear. And that was the type of situation where if I needed a bundle of camping stuff, it would've been really, really expensive for me to go out and get it; and if I were able to just rent that stuff from my neighbor, for a much, much lower cost, it's something I only want to do once or twice a year, it would save me just so much money. As soon as Lenny called me and told me the story about wanting to rent a bike, that's the thought, and that's the story that I immediately went to.</p>
<p>    So I think for a lot of people it'd just be really helpful in terms of gaining access to more stuff that you need just for a day or two. And I think that a lot of people are waking up to this thing where the physical things in our lives aren't that valuable, and it's really the experiences that we have. I think that people in general are waking up to this thing where we just want access, we don't want don't necessarily need ownership; ownership over all these products and things aren't what make us who we are, and we wanna have really valuable experiences with the people that we love. So that immediately for me was like, if this can save people money and can allow people to gather experiences with people that they love and do new things, than Jonji's gonna allow people to live better lives.</p>
<p>Romy:    I love that. You can accumulate so much stuff that you're busy taking care of your stuff ...</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's kinda sort of a generational problem from people older than me, and ... All right I confess I'm 50 okay so I'm in the baby boomers, but like that's like ... It's been this cool transition. I was blessed early on to be a mission work around the globe, so I had a different view on accumulating stuff.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    It seemed like really, it seemed like literal baggage to have that much stuff. Like I was always in this mode of like I gotta transport this somehow, it's not coming with me, you know? So, I get what you're doing, but that's a big pivotal change for some folks.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Definitely, yeah. And the great thing about Jonji ...</p>
<p>Romy:    Especially the folks with with all the stuff.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Right. The great thing about Jonji is you don't have to let go of it.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    It comes back. So you're not selling it; you're helping someone else out. And that's like, don't you wanna help someone?</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    So I mean, a great Jonji list thing would be if you're walking around your house, and you're like, "Should I get rid of it?" Or ask yourself, "Do I use this everyday?" And if you don't, you could probably list in on Jonji.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, and that for me, on your question, was ...</p>
<p>Zachary:    The social impact.</p>
<p>Matthew:    Oh, the social impact, yeah. For me, it was just like even if we could just even the playing field a little bit. Like I always say to the team, "Let's never let any of these protegees fall through the cracks." There's people out there who just don't have some of the same opportunities as we have, and that's trying guitar, or playing soccer, or being a hockey goalie. I was lucky enough in life to be able to do that, but not everyone knows that opportunity, and I kind of want to give everyone that opportunity, 'cause I don't want to miss out on the next Jimmy Hendricks 'cause his family couldn't afford to let him try out the guitar. With Jonji now his dad might be able to let him try his new weekly passion until he finds out what he likes. Yeah there's so many benefits.</p>
<p>Speaker 2:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    The renting. Just starting to realize, I had no idea.</p>
<p>Romy:    What are some of the things that you're surprised it rented? Like was there anything that went on there that you're like, "Hmm, I wonder if that will rent?"</p>
<p>Matthew:    Yeah, for sure. Well, also just to give you an idea, we just launched a couple months ago, we've had four total transactions. Just four total transactions on the marketplace take place. The first one, I don't think was too unexpected, it was just a carpet cleaner. Someone wanted to rent a carpet cleaner, and it was as simple as that. I think maybe the storage space one was most unplanned thing.</p>
<p>Zachary:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Matthew:    I actually ... So we're in my apartment right now, and my apartment has a basement and we starting listing our own spaces. We listed my...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-keep-joness-jonezie-episode-74]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2009</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b3cceac7-0e7e-4156-811b-e1e35d2bbffd/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2017 14:08:33 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f79c6214-ebdb-4f74-a7d4-470a72b6d0bf/74jonezie.mp3" length="58490713" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Check out the creative solution to community renting of personal items with the  guys from Jonezie of Ferndale, Michigan Check out what these guys have come up with to help keep up with the ‘Jones’ by building a community rental program for all of our stuff!  What do you want to rent for the summer!!!  …</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Hip Co-Working Spaces of Bamboo Detroit- Episode #73</title><itunes:title>S3: Hip Co-Working Spaces of Bamboo Detroit- Episode #73</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Bamboo Detroit Update with Amanda Lewan</h2>
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			<p><p>Romy: Thanks for joining me for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise! This is Romy and I want to thank you for your loyalty and following. It keeps us all going around here!<br />
This time, we follow up with Amanda Lewan of Bamboo Detroit. Bamboo is a co-working space that has some very special characteristics… it is very diversified and full of energy. Not to mention that it is one of the ‘hippest’ places in town. Is that even a word? ‘Hippest?’ Oh well, you know what I mean. People want to be there!  We did an interview with Amanda back in Season 1. She is one of the owners and visionaries of this space. We will catch up with her in just a moment because we are going to hear from Hudson Robertson of Traverse City, Michigan on the fun fuel…</p>
<p>Hudson: My name is Hudson Robertson and I am bringing the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
This information comes from an article published in the online magazine PhatRice.com on September 18th of 2014. The article is called “7 Crazy-Interesting Facts about Bamboo” </p>
<p>1.	Bamboo is anti-bacterial - bamboo has natural pest-fighting powers, thanks to the plant's unique resistance to bacteria and fungi.<br />
2.	Panda’s Did not always eat it like you see in pictures. - At some point, pandas came to love the taste of bamboo and hate hunting, giving us the peaceful and herbivorous, bamboo-munching creatures we know today.<br />
Here are a few more….<br />
Bamboo tastes delicious, it grows on every continent, and Bamboo is stronger than steel - In compression tests, bamboo comes out stronger than brick, wood, concrete or steel, meaning it can hold more force than any of those materials. Some scientists even theorize that a length of bamboo 10 centimeters across could hold a 11,000-pound elephant -- though that particular experiment has yet to be attempted.</p>
<p>I hope you enjoyed this Fun Fuel. This is Hudson Robertson. Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Thanks so much Hudson. I might have to go find some Bamboo to try in a salad. I hadn’t thought about that before! Ha ha<br />
Okay, let’s turn our attention to Amanda Lewan from Bamboo Detroit…</p>
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Yes, we just opened up at our new location, 1420 Washington Boulevard on floor three. The building is called the Julian C. Madison Building, so we're super pumped about it. It's a beautiful building right downtown. It's locally owned by a wonderful family. The building's named after our landlord, Sharon Madison's father, Julian C. Madison. He was a history-making entrepreneur himself.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh, he was?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
It's very inspiring to live that sort of similar path with our inclusive entrepreneurial hub here.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, can we hear a little bit about that story?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, so Sharon's father and grandfather were trailblazers. They were the first and third African American engineers in the state of Ohio, and I think his grandfather was one of the very first engineers, African American engineers hired by the federal government. When they bought this building, they named it after her father. One of the things they always described it as he always had a spirit of ... A belief that one should take their life...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Bamboo Detroit Update with Amanda Lewan</h2>
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			<p><p>Romy: Thanks for joining me for another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise! This is Romy and I want to thank you for your loyalty and following. It keeps us all going around here!<br />
This time, we follow up with Amanda Lewan of Bamboo Detroit. Bamboo is a co-working space that has some very special characteristics… it is very diversified and full of energy. Not to mention that it is one of the ‘hippest’ places in town. Is that even a word? ‘Hippest?’ Oh well, you know what I mean. People want to be there!  We did an interview with Amanda back in Season 1. She is one of the owners and visionaries of this space. We will catch up with her in just a moment because we are going to hear from Hudson Robertson of Traverse City, Michigan on the fun fuel…</p>
<p>Hudson: My name is Hudson Robertson and I am bringing the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
This information comes from an article published in the online magazine PhatRice.com on September 18th of 2014. The article is called “7 Crazy-Interesting Facts about Bamboo” </p>
<p>1.	Bamboo is anti-bacterial - bamboo has natural pest-fighting powers, thanks to the plant's unique resistance to bacteria and fungi.<br />
2.	Panda’s Did not always eat it like you see in pictures. - At some point, pandas came to love the taste of bamboo and hate hunting, giving us the peaceful and herbivorous, bamboo-munching creatures we know today.<br />
Here are a few more….<br />
Bamboo tastes delicious, it grows on every continent, and Bamboo is stronger than steel - In compression tests, bamboo comes out stronger than brick, wood, concrete or steel, meaning it can hold more force than any of those materials. Some scientists even theorize that a length of bamboo 10 centimeters across could hold a 11,000-pound elephant -- though that particular experiment has yet to be attempted.</p>
<p>I hope you enjoyed this Fun Fuel. This is Hudson Robertson. Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Thanks so much Hudson. I might have to go find some Bamboo to try in a salad. I hadn’t thought about that before! Ha ha<br />
Okay, let’s turn our attention to Amanda Lewan from Bamboo Detroit…</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yes, we just opened up at our new location, 1420 Washington Boulevard on floor three. The building is called the Julian C. Madison Building, so we're super pumped about it. It's a beautiful building right downtown. It's locally owned by a wonderful family. The building's named after our landlord, Sharon Madison's father, Julian C. Madison. He was a history-making entrepreneur himself.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh, he was?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
It's very inspiring to live that sort of similar path with our inclusive entrepreneurial hub here.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, can we hear a little bit about that story?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, so Sharon's father and grandfather were trailblazers. They were the first and third African American engineers in the state of Ohio, and I think his grandfather was one of the very first engineers, African American engineers hired by the federal government. When they bought this building, they named it after her father. One of the things they always described it as he always had a spirit of ... A belief that one should take their life into their own hands, and create with it. I guess he [inaudible 00:02:33] always give back and help raise up the younger generation for their own businesses. It was a really good fit for us seeing a great shared workspace for entrepreneurs and creatives, and fostering and sharing those values of inclusion and diversity. We're super pumped. I think it's really good to partner with people who share your values. That was something that was really important to us.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh, my gosh, what a great place for a co-working space, especially as diversified as you guys are. That's wonderful. What made you guys decide to make the jump into a bigger space, was it obvious you were just outgrowing?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
It was a little bit of both from the very beginning. We took a very lean start up approach. We started the first [inaudible 00:03:24] with four friends in just a 3,000 square foot space and some IKEA furniture. Along the way, we really did a lot to build the community. We hosted a lot of events, we listened to our customers, and we tried to improve the space as much as we could, but just kept hearing over and over that people needed more dedicated and private space. We knew from the beginning we were missing a bit of a market, and also that's just what our community really needed. By the end of ... Right before we moved, we were definitely getting super busy. We do a lot of events we didn't really have an event space or events would always overflow and take up the co-work space. We're really pumped that we now have an event space too inside of our new co-working space, and the building we're in has a big beautiful event space. We have a more freedom to grow and explore new programing and even expand to other floors if we need to.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow, that's tremendous. I love that for you guys because you guys really do have some thoughtful events that are ... There's a lot of other similar organizations to yours around the country that sometimes they just have speakers, and I always find they way I look at your event lineup that you're always very thoughtful about the types of content that you bring to all your members.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Thank you, I really appreciate it. We frame it like we want our members to fell inspired while they're here. We want to provide access to entrepreneurship, and inspire them to grow. We hope most of our events are fun and inspiring. We do let members do a lot of events, too, so that they can use us as a launching pad to grow. A lot of our workshops, too, we try to focus on growth. A typical incubator, you might go through a really formal program, but at Bamboo, we're super flexible, we'll just have a lot of different workshops. You can pick and choose, and learn whatever you need to do. We try to be well rounded, so we've done meditation, we've done networking, we've done all the content stuff to keep people improving themselves personally too.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Since we didn't hit that the first time when we did, interviewed you on season one, we mostly talked about you guys as a co-working [station 00:05:36] and just a high-level diversity in there. You just started to touch on your role as an incubator and will you just definite that a little bit more for some of our listeners?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yes, I think Bamboo, for us, we want to be a very flexible brand and community. We are a platform for people to grow. You can come in and use the workspace, but what really differentiates us besides a very inclusive culture and providing a lot of access to resources, is our programing. We try to always have workshops, and they're very well-rounded. Everything from meditation and self-care, to vision boarding sessions, to high growth happy hours, or in-depth lawyer sessions. That's something we're really going to be in the new spaces versus an incubator program or an accelerator, sometimes we sign up for three months, and you have to be there nine to six. That doesn't really work for everybody. We try to really just have more, shorter-term flexible programing. Maybe you're a mom working full-time, and you come to the co-working space for three hours in the afternoon, but you can do a free info session or an in-depth workshop. All kinds of stuff.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, that's powerful. How did you work up the courage to leap into a larger space, did you ... Some people save up, some people get a loan, some people just do it. Did you stack up memberships?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, I ...</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Just encourage those who are or might be thinking about expansion. What was your strategy for it?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
We had a bigger ... It started, we always had an idea for expanding, so back when we were in our smaller space and just first starting to build the community, we really wanted to do a building, and work up to a long term plan. Along the way, we met the building owner here, and we were really excited and intrigued with just sharing those values that I talked about with her, and the location of the building felt perfect. She had two floors available, so there was some room to grow.</p>
<p>It's funny looking back; we had this [inaudible 00:07:46] do a whole co-working, maybe even co-living building downtown, because we knew there was this energy and this interest, and we were listening to our customers. The expansion we did was a little bit smaller. Instead, we just decided, let's go from 3,000 to 6,000. Let's test out our new product offering, private offices, and dedicated desks. Once those are full, we can then do another floor if we need to. Maybe long term, look at buying a building. It seemed to be more in our approach, which was growing organically, and we did take a small business loan out, and we got a grant from the city of Detroit.</p>
<p>Those two things were tremendously helpful for the build-out of the space, but we did it still. I mean, there's some spaces where they spend two million dollars on their build out. We spent just a little over 100 thousand, and it's turned out really really nice brand new furniture. Then we partnered with everybody we could locally to just make it happen. I think that's one thing to be aware of, you might have this bigger vision of going into a huge building, or I want to be this, and sometimes you just need the next step to get there and just keep growing and refining and getting better and better.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, there's so much to learn when you take that next step to a new product or new service or expanding a location. Hiring people. Every time you expand and some way, there's always some learning that comes out of it in its current condition.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, I agree.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, well that's exciting. Almost a little bit of both. I just feel the way you guys did that was so smart. I'm glad that you've found a connection that makes all the difference with the landlord.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
It did, and it definitely took a lot of time. I think things take longer than you realize. We actually secured the funding pretty quickly, I think because we had been working on our business plan, we had been around for a couple of years, we had built those relationships. It took a little longer to get the lease all together, and then make the final move over. That's okay. People should know. Sometimes it looks like overnight success, but it's really not. It should take a while.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right. That's a good word and encouraging for everyone else. We skipped over this, but this is a really good sign of a co-working space when people want to stay and have a private office. Literally, want to move in more fully. That's its compliment and marker of success, right?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
That's really good to hear. Our private offices filled up right away. We did, and I think you asked me did it create demand or a little bit more about our strategy. We did, once they made the decision, "Okay, we like this building, we like this landlord, we're going to try to start pushing things in order here," it took about a year, maybe a little over a year to finally get here. All along the way, we've built up wait lists, and some of the content, some of the people on the lists are old, but some of them have been really great, for the past three or four months. You can build, do things while you're putting everything in order to get those first customers. I think that was pretty helpful along the way, continuing to build our own brand following so that people would share and recommend and bring other people in.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right. Thanks for circling back on that, because it is, you can keep selling I guess the message I want to say. While you're expanding it is important not to stop selling and keep selling. Like you said, there might be just a few folks on the list that are a little bit old by the time it's time to queue up, but it's always important to keep selling during expansion, right.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, so now we officially opened just two days ago. Now it's time to really just shell the rest of what's available. You mentioned hiring; we're going to try to hire. We've had volunteers at the space, we're going to try to have part-time fellows, folks that maybe are in between jobs, or just starting up, or maybe they're college grads. They want to contribute to the community and get a lot from being in the community. We're going to test out, can we have part time folks who are just really engaged, really want to be here versus just having an office manager. A typical office manager role, we didn't necessarily need, we want someone who's going to be in the community, too. We're going to start hiring our first couple of folks here in the next few months and see how that goes. It should be fun. Then I can remove myself from the role of the community manager marketer, and work more high level on where do we want to take our brand next. We want to do more locations. We want to launch a technology. I know for sure we're going to step up and do a lot bigger programing and events next year because that is expended value. It keeps people excited and happy, and always engaged with the co-work community.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
While we're on this great moment of [inaudible 00:12:33], why don't we say for anyone who might be listening in Detroit, what's your pricing, and for a co-working desk, and private office?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, so we try to have tiered pricing, so we have a 40 dollar membership. We call that our starter membership. That's having a mail address downtown and access to some events and resources that you can just get started in being in the community, and having that official downtown address. Then the next level's open co-working, and that ranges between 125 and 175, depending if you want to commit two years, six months, or a month to month. Dedicated desks are 325. Private offices, they're a little bit pricier, they're 800 and up, but it's really good, you can work your way out from, all the way from the beginning of starting to co-working, getting a desk, and then growing into your own office if you want to.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
800 is still just peanuts compared to doing it on their own.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, it is. The other big perk is the flexibility, right? You could do one-year leases and offices, six month leases on desks, or month to month on open, and you need to actually get a lease. Now that we've gone through the process and got a really large lease, I can tell you there's a lot you have to do. You have to really be ready to take that risk. It's definitely really flexible for startups, small teams, creative people.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, well that's exciting. What are memberships open there at your new space now? Are they all open? I think you said the offices are filled.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
All of our offices are booked, but we have a wait list, so you can join the wait list by just reaching out and letting us know. We're looking at expanding to another floor. That one might be more offices as we've had a lot of demand there. Then dedicated desks are available, and those are a good option if you have just a couple of people who might want to be in a more semi-open area, but still have a little privacy, or you're just an individual who works at home, and not going to lock up your stuff and always have your computer out. That tends to be a really good option, too.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
All right, well that's exciting. I know you've got a great line up. While we've got it all right here, let's tell the listeners where they can find you on your social media and your website.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Oh, yeah, you can find Bamboo at bamboodetroit.com, or BambooDetroit on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. I'm Amanda [Jenn 00:14:57] at Twitter, and you can always reach out to me if you want to come by, see the space. Drop into some of our events. Most of them are open, and they're free and low cost to the communities. We'd love to see you at the brand new location.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Well, awesome. That just wraps up a cool commercial. Let's, we've got a few more minutes if you've got a few more minutes I want to see if we could ... If I could just ask you some questions about some of the things that might have surprised you from the last time we interviewed you. Back then it was almost a year and a half ago. Has there been anything that during that time that you think, "Gosh, I'm just surprised it went that way." Did anything stick out?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, I think the two things for me, one of my personal flaws, is that I'm not as patient as I should be. I mentioned it did take a long time to get the lease and all of our finance, and the whole process of really expanding was longer than I realized. That's just something to be aware that have realistic expectations on timing and be patient because it will come together when it's ready. It's better to do it the right way and make sure that everything were ready and ordered, no matter how long it takes. Then that, we also went through a partnership change, so we're down to two partners from four.</p>
<p>That was a really good learning experience. I wouldn't say it was a surprise, but I think it was at some point, you do have to transition on and grow as an individual, and be honest with partners. Be supportive and try to make the best of those kinds of changes. I think everything worked out how it's supposed to, and we're going to be set to grow now in 2017. Don't be surprised if people change, if time takes longer. All of those things are natural. We're all human beings just trying to figure out our paths here.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, right. Operative word, I say that a lot. When we have us humans involved, we don't always obey every, all the rules and plans.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, sometimes you have this vision, and you're like, "I just need to get there, I need to expand." For us, it just felt like it absolutely had to happen, like there is no ... We just couldn't stay in our small space any more. It was just; it had to happen. It has to happen on its own at the right time.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Get the right people ready to do it.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
It surprised you about sometimes how long things take. I think, too any time that you apply for a grant or some sort of governmental award, that's always an exercise in patience.</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Yeah, it is. In real estate, too, I think is a little just more slow moving. You have to wait til things are available, then you have to move in, and [crosstalk 00:17:44] it's a bigger endeavor than I'm used to. I'm really glad we're here, I'm really excited it all came together.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, me too. What things around maybe specifically Detroit that's got you excited right now, that you maybe see or you're excited about in this new year?</p>
<p>Amanda:<br />
Well, I think we've got a lot of]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-hip-co-working-spaces-bamboo-detroit-episode-73]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2007</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1acbd034-25bc-4b23-894f-6f53a4ad5fbd/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2017 12:29:51 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8607883b-fd49-41a3-acf8-6dd665536e76/amandalewmanfull.mp3" length="39835339" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Bamboo Detroit Update with Amanda Lewan Romy catches up with co-founder, Amanda Lewan to hear about the most recent expansion of one of Detroit’s hottest hippest co-working spaces. Listen in to some of the secrets of the success including the special nature of the diversity in members and programming.   Full Transcript   More Links …</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Detroit Horse Power Rides Empowerment – Episode #72</title><itunes:title>S3: Detroit Horse Power Rides Empowerment – Episode #72</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h4>Detroit Horse Power lifts, heals, and empowers!</h4>
<p>David Silver shares an update on all of their expansion in the hearts and minds of the Detroit Youth!</p>
<p>Community partners make his organization strong and talent-rich. Great song by a Detroit artist!</p>
<p>Kids and horses are a great match.</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Hi everyone, this is Romy and I would like to extend a warm welcome for tuning back into the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  We catch up with David Silver of Detroit Horse Power on this episode. David shares how he has benefited from using community partners and some strategies on how he selects talent for his team. And, of course, we have a wonderful song for you to debut from a Detroit artist at the end of this episode.<br />
Now, let’s see about our Fun Fuel for this episode…we have Hudson Robertson of Traverse City Michigan. Let’s see what Hudson has for us…</p>
<p>Hudson: My name is Hudson Robertson and I am bringing the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
These are some interesting facts from the article “30 Things you probably didn’t know about horses” by Mihaela Husar in the September 17th of 2013 publication.<br />
Did you know that An adult horses’ brain only weighs about half that of a human- 22 ounces?<br />
 Did you know that Horses have good taste in music? They like listening to classical music, finding it comforting and serene.  </p>
<p>Did you know that  A horse heart weighs 10 pounds?!</p>
<p>Did you know that horses cannot breath through their mouths?.</p>
<p>Did you know that horses drink at least 25 gallons of water a day, even more in hot climates?</p>
<p>Did you know that  Horses’ teeth never stop growing?</p>
<p>Did you know that the oldest horse on record has lived until the age of 62 years?</p>
<p>Well, I hope you enjoyed these fun fuel facts on horses. This is Hudson Robertson, enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you Hudson – love the fun...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>Detroit Horse Power lifts, heals, and empowers!</h4>
<p>David Silver shares an update on all of their expansion in the hearts and minds of the Detroit Youth!</p>
<p>Community partners make his organization strong and talent-rich. Great song by a Detroit artist!</p>
<p>Kids and horses are a great match.</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Hi everyone, this is Romy and I would like to extend a warm welcome for tuning back into the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!  We catch up with David Silver of Detroit Horse Power on this episode. David shares how he has benefited from using community partners and some strategies on how he selects talent for his team. And, of course, we have a wonderful song for you to debut from a Detroit artist at the end of this episode.<br />
Now, let’s see about our Fun Fuel for this episode…we have Hudson Robertson of Traverse City Michigan. Let’s see what Hudson has for us…</p>
<p>Hudson: My name is Hudson Robertson and I am bringing the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
These are some interesting facts from the article “30 Things you probably didn’t know about horses” by Mihaela Husar in the September 17th of 2013 publication.<br />
Did you know that An adult horses’ brain only weighs about half that of a human- 22 ounces?<br />
 Did you know that Horses have good taste in music? They like listening to classical music, finding it comforting and serene.  </p>
<p>Did you know that  A horse heart weighs 10 pounds?!</p>
<p>Did you know that horses cannot breath through their mouths?.</p>
<p>Did you know that horses drink at least 25 gallons of water a day, even more in hot climates?</p>
<p>Did you know that  Horses’ teeth never stop growing?</p>
<p>Did you know that the oldest horse on record has lived until the age of 62 years?</p>
<p>Well, I hope you enjoyed these fun fuel facts on horses. This is Hudson Robertson, enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you Hudson – love the fun fuel!<br />
Now that we have our minds on the interesting features of horses, let’s drop in on my conversation with David Silver of Detroit Horse Power…</p>
<p>Romy:	Okay, so let's catch up. What's happening with Detroit Horsepower. We touched base with you mid-year, 2016. Now, it's ... at this time that we're talking; it's early 2017. I've been following some of your social media, but I'd love to get an update of where you're at.</p>
<p>David:	Absolutely. When we last spoke, we were just getting ready for our 2016 Summer expansion. We got started in 2015 with two weeks of summer camps that had 18 participants, and we grew. Summer 2016 was a big expansion for us. We had six weeks of camps with 91 participants. 11 of those original 18 were back for a second year which was really exciting. Those kids were ... had been waiting eagerly for horse camp to come back. We were able to grow and give an additional, 70 plus kids, that unique enrichment.</p>
<p>	We had a really fantastic partnership this summer with a horse facility called, Ringside Equestrian Center, which is out in New Hudson. It's out 96 on the way to Lansing. It's not that close to Detroit. It took us about 45 minutes each day, but really wonderful folks who donated the use of their space and their horses to continue in this pilot model, where we're bringing kids to where the horses are for the summer programs.</p>
<p>Romy:	Awesome. How many did you have the year before? 91, that's amazing.</p>
<p>David:	Big expansion over 18. 2015 was really like, proof of concept. We had never done it before. This isn't currently being offered in Detroit, so we just got started, got our feet wet in 2015. Then, really made a big push to do a lot more in this past year. Getting a little ahead of the conversation, but, there is lots of exciting things coming ahead in 2017.</p>
<p>Romy:	While we're on the kids, did you notice something different about the 18 that came back?</p>
<p>David:	Out of the kids that came back, they started from a place of comfort and excitement and confidence. They had already been around horses. Kids in our programs, coming from the city, tend to start out nervous, maybe a little uncertain, sometimes even afraid.</p>
<p>	You want to try that one again? Sorry, that's my dog.</p>
<p>Romy:	No, that's okay. We're pet-friendly around this podcast.</p>
<p>David:	Cool. When kids are coming in, for the first time, day one is usually just an orientation. There's a lot of unfamiliar pieces of equipment. It smells very different out in the horse barn. It's kind of like being transported into a very foreign kind of environment. There's the word, the vocabulary. Having kids who have been in the program before, they just jump right in. They were able to teach the newer participants ... Or, at least, get them feeling more excited and more comfortable, starting out on the week. It's just going to keep building as we go into year three. We've got some exciting plans for our most experienced students.</p>
<p>Romy:	We'll get to other space type things in a minute, but ... The average age group is that still middle school type age? What's the age range now of the participants?</p>
<p>David:	This year, because we had more kids, we had a bigger range of ages. We had as young as six, which is actually younger than we were necessarily anticipating. She did great. We had several high schoolers for the first time, which was also really exciting because we can do a lot more in some ways. We can engage on a higher level with the older kids who are just able to process things differently than our younger students. We are continuing to work with community partners, so we worked with ... Year one, our students were from Burns Elementary and Middle School, which is where I used to teach and from Alternatives for Girls, and those partners returned in 2016. We added four new partners that we worked with, Summer in the City, Denby High School, Friends of Parkside, and the Downtown Boxing Gym.</p>
<p>Romy:	We connect with quite a few of those organizations. You're hitting all of the front line folks, trying to surround the youth with alternatives to what they see on a daily basis.</p>
<p>David:	Those kinds of collaborations are so valuable, especially for a newer organization like ourselves. Most of those partners were able to help facilitate transportation to get the kids out to the program each day. They already have a population of kids that they're working with and help us identify who will benefit most from this unique kind of enrichment. It feels really good to be building on the work that has already been going on for many, many years in Detroit because we're much stronger when we work together.</p>
<p>Romy:	No question, I feel the same way about all things going on in the Detroit area. Is there anything ... I've been wanting to ask you this ... Now that you have two seasons under your belt. Was there anything that surprised you about some of the kids reaction or growth, now that you've had ... You've had the same 18, but let's say, more than 100 kids have come through, interacting with the horses, many for the first time, is there anything that surprised you either way? Pleasantly or, oh, I've got to change that out next time?</p>
<p>David:	I continue to be impressed. Not necessarily surprised, but impressed with how talented our kids are. There is a real knack for ... Whether it's the bond, they have with the horse and the real, thoughtful care that they show when they're learning about the responsibility involved for horses. Their skills as young riders, to go from never having seen a horse, to trotting independently on the last day of camp, is ... Just continues to impress me and gets me really excited about the long-term trajectory, because we only have these kids for five days and if they are accomplishing this much in just a week when we have year round programming that's located in Detroit, then, the possibilities are really just endless.</p>
<p>Romy:	What are your thoughts for this coming summer? Is that part of the location in Detroit?</p>
<p>David:	The location part has some separate updates, but yeah, 2017, we're going to keep growing. We had six weeks with 91 kids this past year. We're going to have eight weeks; we're projecting 150 participants in 2017, which is terrifically exciting to keep ... We anticipate bringing as many of the 91 back in year three and then having an additional, roughly, 60 slots that we can get kids their first horse experiences. We're going to add, as well, a leadership cohort where some of our core kids who have been returning, year after year, are going to have longer than a one-week horse camp. They're going to come back for ... We're anticipating four weeks in a row.</p>
<p>	Those kids will develop a lot more horse care and riding skills because they will have quadruple the amount than they've had in previous years. Also, take on some of the leadership for teaching the new students which is real exciting, I think, in imagining what does impact look for us in the long run. When our students feel empowered and able and excited about what they've learned, and they're able to articulate that and teach it to new kids. That's where we see, really sustainable and broad-based change for our young people.</p>
<p>Romy:	It grows your capacity somewhat. That's exciting.</p>
<p>David:	It's a big step up for us. We're two years into this. We incorporated with the state of Michigan, February 20-</p>
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David:	Incorporated with the state of Michigan February 2015, so as of this recording we're not quite two years old. And there has been a lot of exciting growth in the past couple of years, and we've reached this really exciting and daunting transition point where I founded the organization, I've been the primary person throughout the organization's lifetime, we have a phenomenal board, the board grew from three to six members this past year and they've been stepping up in core areas to support our operations and our long-term growth. And we're adding staff as well, so in some ways, it's a bit sad for me, I'm not going to be the one day-to-day leading the programming this summer. We're going to have some of our core volunteers come on as paid staff at Detroit Horse Power, and they're going to be running the show, and I get to be there as much as I can. But also with the flexibility to continue to meet with the city to pursue our site selection and engage in the fundraising that we need to pursue in a long-term vision for Detroit Horse Power's success.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right, David, that's exciting, and I know what you mean. It's hard to start to move away from some of the details or some of our management team calls. It's exciting to get out of the weeds, but it's sad to leave the weeds because that's where all the good stuff happens.</p>
<p>David:	Yeah, that's where the work is right?</p>
<p>Romy:	Yeah.</p>
<p>David:	And where so much of its been getting done over the past few years and it's really exciting to have other phenomenally talented people join our team to carry the work forward but I think it's at a moment of growth for both the organization to grow in our capacity to accomplish more impact for kids, and also reflecting on my growth as a leader and transitioning, adding new tools to my tool belt. I'm still pretty young and learning all the time, there's been a really steep learning curve, and this just is another step along that mountain that we're climbing to realize all the ambitious goals that we've set out.</p>
<p>Romy:	Right, and how have you, just for other listeners, this is always a topic of interest, how did you go through a formal decision process to decide which of the volunteers to bring on, or did you go by instinct? I tend to work a lot by instinct and what I see people do in their behavior. So I've never had a formal process and I probably should. Did you engage in some sort of strategy when you went to decide or did you just say, "Hey, I think you're a fit."</p>
<p>David:	I feel really lucky that I've had great mentors who have helped with our strategic planning and some of those sessions were difficult. They were making very clear that not growing and investing in other people is really putting the long-term growth, potentially not all the work can't get done if it's just me because of the pace of growth that we've seen. The process from there was relatively informal, I had sort of a core group of folks that's been stepping up in some cases, really since the beginning, and some folks who have joined us more recently, but it was pretty clear when it came time to make a decision that it had to be somebody who I could really trust who was going to be a good thought partner and a compatible match for the skillsets that Detroit Horse Power needs and my own needs in growing the team.</p>
<p>	So we sat down with three of those core volunteers and had a conversation about the roles that we were trying to fill, and it was pretty clear really from the beginning that there was one person who was uniquely suited to address multiple roles and really step up in a great way and we've been working together really well for the last six plus months. This process has been really stressful in some ways. It's new, and I'm learning and trying to figure it out with a lot of questions that you have to wrestle with, and IRS guidelines that you have to make sure that we're compliant with. And just the individual, making sure that she's appropriate compensated and that we're working within Detroit Horse Power's financial capacity and that the workload is reasonable and all the stuff that I've never done before, and very glad to have patient and hard working people along this journey with me to assist along the way.</p>
<p>Romy:	Well said, you're pretty eloquent about it. You make it sound like [inaudible 00:16:12]. And sometimes I think a good person starts to come around and they're passionate about you can trust them. Sometimes they present opportunities, they bring opportunities with them, they use their skillsets. They identify things that can be done, that if it's not in our wheelhouse we don't even see them, we can end up with a bit of a blind spot-</p>
<p>David:	Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:	[crosstalk 00:16:36] talent can really sit and thank god for good advisors and good talent that has surrounded us, it's really pushed me in the same way. So I get it. And so in that transition, it's great because truly, truly, you are such an advocate and spokesperson for why the youth need to come around the horses and using the space and so you do need to be out expanding the role and the financial capacity. So is that the role you're going to take, you're really going to work more with fundraising and seeing if you can move it from eight weeks to ten weeks or twelve? So let's go there.</p>
<p>David:	Well yeah, exactly. So our goal is to expand it to 52 weeks so that we can have year-round programs in the city limits and certainly fundraising, is going to be a big part of that in terms of the ambitious operating budget that we've set for this year and our operating budget that will come together for 2018, but more so building the donor relationships and foundation relationships and opportunities for corporate philanthropy that are going to help us reach the long term goal of repurposing vacant land to build a new urban horseback riding center where these programs can be available all throughout the year right in our kids neighborhoods.</p>
<p>	So fundraising is a big piece of that, and then there's the [inaudible 00:18:11] of city approval and site selection, finding the right fit of space that horses are going to do well on, fifteen to twenty acres is our target, that doesn't have soil contamination, and is in a neighborhood that where community members want horses to be part of the neighborhoods future. There are some continued progress in those fields. We're having good conversations with council and the mayor's office about the proposal that we're moving forward with and narrowing the scope of our site selection, we're really excited about an abandoned golf course in Northwest Detroit where community members have been very supportive of horses and a portion of Chandler Park on the east side where we think we'd do well and we worked with kids on the adjacent housing development that's right next to the site that we're interested in, and those kids had a phenomenal time and would be our biggest advocates if that was where we focused our energies.</p>
<p>Romy:	Wow, and so really it's continuing to walk through the process, and I don't think people realize how long it takes. Everyone says to me things like, "Oh it's Detroit, there's all this property up for grabs." But just as you mentioned, and we talked about this in your first episode too last season, that there's other issues, like the soil can't be contaminated and it sounds simple, but I'm sure there's a lot to that process and then how do you contain some of the waste, right? Those all have to factor in right?</p>
<p>David:	Yes, absolutely. We've put together-</p>
<p>David:	Absolutely. We've put together a good starting point on our facility management plan, which has to make sure we're good neighbors. Bringing horses into a denser urban environment, things are going to have to be different than a traditional 50-acre horse property where you could]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-detroit-horse-power-rides-empowerment-episode-72]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2005</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a063efa7-d2fc-493c-867a-9bcf8d40e5a9/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2017 12:35:43 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/27b9c10a-9b25-43aa-980d-58d9be72a6b3/davidsilverfull.mp3" length="53838752" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit Horse Power lifts, heals, and empowers! David Silver shares an update on all of their expansion in the hearts and minds of the Detroit Youth! Community partners make his organization strong and talent-rich. Great song by a Detroit artist! Kids and horses are a great match.   Full Transcript   Detroit Horse Power Website…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Up-Cycling Fire Hoses with Kresse- Episode #71</title><itunes:title>S3: Up-Cycling Fire Hoses with Kresse- Episode #71</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h4>Kresse Wesling updates us on up-cycling used fire hoses and discarded leather for luxury use!</h4>
<p>Romy catches up with Kresse Wesling. Kresse shares intimate insights on thoughtful expansion and overcoming those times when other&#8217;s minimize your work. Great new product line and authentic conversations on social enterprise.</p>
<p>Song included by Detroit artist at end. Fun Fuel by Reece Robertson in Traverse City, Michigan</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I am excited to catch back up with Kresse Wesling on this episode!  We spoke with Kresse about 18 months ago. She and her husband, Elvis, have a social enterprise in London called Elvis & Kresse. They upcycle discarded fire hoses and make them into gorgeous bags and belts. In just a little bit, we will hear about some of their new product additions along with some amazing insight on how they keep up their energy for high-level systemic change when faced with barriers and challenges. She even discusses how she handles situations when others minimize her or their business. These guys are true professional social entrepreneurs, and I learned a lot.<br />
Now, before we move to the interview, we have a new guest young man for our Fun Fuel. From Traverse City, Michigan, please meet Reece Robertson. Reece, what do you have for us?</p>
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<p>Reece: Attack, Supply, Forestry, Booster and Suction….these are all names of firehoses designed for specific uses in putting out fires.  Until the mid 19th century, most fires were put out by water buckets transported to the scene.  Firehoses were created soon after that but they were very basic to say the least.  In 1673 in Amsterdam, Jan Van Der Heyden and his son Nickolas took firefighting to the next step with the first firehose made of leather.  This improvement made it’s way to the United States by 1794 in Philadelphia.  Members of the Philadelphia Humane Hose Company developed the leather hoses to be fastened together by copper rivets and washers instead of sewing them.  This cut down on the hoses bursting from pressure at their seams.   Modern firehoses use a variety of natural and synthetic fabrics and elastomers.  They allow the hoses to be stored wet without rotting and resist effects of exposure to sunlight and chemicals.  Modern technology has made the hoses lighter to help reduce the physical strain for firefighters.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you very much, Reece Robertson! Fire Hoses have come a long way!<br />
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<p>Romy:    It's been almost a year-and-a-half since you, and I talked and had our first interview learning about your business. I really want to take this opportunity to catch up. You were one of our most popular guests, as I mentioned, from season one. We want to hear what's happening with your business, everything from what you're having fun...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4>Kresse Wesling updates us on up-cycling used fire hoses and discarded leather for luxury use!</h4>
<p>Romy catches up with Kresse Wesling. Kresse shares intimate insights on thoughtful expansion and overcoming those times when other&#8217;s minimize your work. Great new product line and authentic conversations on social enterprise.</p>
<p>Song included by Detroit artist at end. Fun Fuel by Reece Robertson in Traverse City, Michigan</p>
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Now, before we move to the interview, we have a new guest young man for our Fun Fuel. From Traverse City, Michigan, please meet Reece Robertson. Reece, what do you have for us?</p>
<p>___</p>
<p>Reece: Attack, Supply, Forestry, Booster and Suction….these are all names of firehoses designed for specific uses in putting out fires.  Until the mid 19th century, most fires were put out by water buckets transported to the scene.  Firehoses were created soon after that but they were very basic to say the least.  In 1673 in Amsterdam, Jan Van Der Heyden and his son Nickolas took firefighting to the next step with the first firehose made of leather.  This improvement made it’s way to the United States by 1794 in Philadelphia.  Members of the Philadelphia Humane Hose Company developed the leather hoses to be fastened together by copper rivets and washers instead of sewing them.  This cut down on the hoses bursting from pressure at their seams.   Modern firehoses use a variety of natural and synthetic fabrics and elastomers.  They allow the hoses to be stored wet without rotting and resist effects of exposure to sunlight and chemicals.  Modern technology has made the hoses lighter to help reduce the physical strain for firefighters.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you very much, Reece Robertson! Fire Hoses have come a long way!<br />
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<p>Romy:    It's been almost a year-and-a-half since you, and I talked and had our first interview learning about your business. I really want to take this opportunity to catch up. You were one of our most popular guests, as I mentioned, from season one. We want to hear what's happening with your business, everything from what you're having fun with, what your most popular products are, what you guys are doing from a business perspective, just generally what's happening. Let's start wherever you want.</p>
<p>Kresse:    I suppose that you always have to start with quite a victorious statement like, we're still open. The business is still running. Nothing terrible has happened. I genuinely, I think you can lose sight of these things. Everybody always wants to hear what's the most exciting thing that's going on, but often the most exciting thing is that the mission we started with, rescuing the fire hose, is still the mission that we're on. We're just doing that better and better all the time but very much still engaged with our corporate's [inaudible 00:01:23] and really excited about that.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's such a good word. I say that all the time. The number one rule of social enterprise is to stay open. That's the number one rule is sustainability. [inaudible 00:01:39] make it more complicated than that. Let's place-hold on that for a second. What do you feel has been some of the reasons why you've been able to stay open?</p>
<p>Kresse:    I think that certainly, we know that there's a gathering momentum behind purpose-driven businesses. We know that the consumers are becoming increasingly aware of where their money is being spent and what their money is being spent on, and what the potential added value of that cash is and that spend is.</p>
<p>    We're constantly gaining new audiences that we didn't really know were there, and it's real because more and more people are thinking, "Okay, I need a backpack, but I'm not just going to go and buy whatever backpack is the first one I see. I'm going to do a bit of research on-line. I'm going to look around," in the same way that people used to do this for really expensive purchases like a car. You would go and drive around lots of car lots, and you would talk to lots of people, and you might go on-line and see which is the best fuel efficiency, and which has the best guarantees and ratings.</p>
<p>    We think that people are taking that level of research down to more everyday products. We've had customers that have said that they've compared reviews for five or six wash bags before buying a wash bag from us. That is something that is a trend that I think is only going to continue.</p>
<p>Romy:    I do too. I'm noticing people, say here in the US, they're voting with their dollars where they're going to spend, what their activities are, what restaurants they support. That's mostly good, I find mostly good, sometimes not, but mostly it's a good sign that people aren't just blanketly accepting, I guess, marketing, or blanketly accepting. They're finding out for themselves, which makes it have to be good, good quality in addition to our social mission, right?</p>
<p>Kresse:    Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy:    Last time we talked, you had a belt and a bag, and I think you were experimenting with a couple of different types of bags. Is that still your product line today that you're making from the reclaimed fire hoses?</p>
<p>Kresse:    Yeah. Our fire hose collection is still constantly improving, but probably the most interesting addition to our collection in the last year has been really the kind of upsurge in our leather reclamation project. The fire hose problem is a niche problem. There are about ten tons a year in the UK, something like that. It's one we very much at our size now can [follow 00:04:38].</p>
<p>    When we started to be approached by a couple of the luxury companies with their leather scraps, so this is the off-cut when you cut out the pattern for a car seat for a Bentley or [inaudible 00:04:51] Martin, or you cut out the bag pattern for a luxury handbag, these are the scraps that are left behind.</p>
<p>    When we started to research that problem, we learned that it's an 800,000-ton-a-year problem annually. This is just absolutely beautiful leather that's just been tanned, just been dyed, and it's on the cutting room floor, and it goes to landfill or incineration.</p>
<p>    We have for several years been trying to work out what to do with that. About two years ago, so maybe just before I talked to you, we had come up with a system to turn that into three shapes that you can interweave to make a variety of things.</p>
<p>    Over the last year-and-a-half, we've just seen a lot of uptake of our leather system, so the first product we made was rugs, and we've started to sell lots and lots of these leather rugs, which are great, because people can order them in any size they want, in any color combination they want, and because it's component-based, it also means that if one little piece somewhere gets damaged, you can just replace that one piece instead of replacing the whole item.</p>
<p>    It's an incredibly powerful system, and it's getting increasing fan-based, and we're about to launch a whole collection of bags also made in this way.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's fantastic. Kresse, where was the leather going, the scraps going before this? Where would they go? Would they go into the trash?</p>
<p>Kresse:    Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow.</p>
<p>Kresse:    I think that's what we're the best at. Where Elvis and I are at our best is where we find something that just shouldn't be happening, but there's no other solution for it. Most of it goes to the trash; some of it gets shredded to a pulp, and they add a lot of glue to it to make basically a leather equivalent of an MDS, and they call it E-leather. It's basically glued-together bits of leather dust to make a material substitute.</p>
<p>    The problem with that is, there's a lot of energy that goes into it, there's a lot of chemicals that go into it, and we think there's a better way to retain the value of the leather as is. Yeah, the rugs are definitely a testament to it.</p>
<p>    We had a huge birthday celebration here over the weekend and had about 30 people line dancing across one of our leather rugs, so we've definitely done several years' worth of product testing now. If it can survive 30 people line dancing on it, then definitely it's going to have a lot of longevity in your home.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh my goodness, that's so funny. That's great. You didn't by chance take a video of that, did you?</p>
<p>Kresse:    I think there are some short videos on Instagram this morning. I'll have to try and send one to you after [crosstalk 00:07:56]. It is quite funny.</p>
<p>Romy:    We'll put it in our [notes 00:07:58] for this episode.</p>
<p>Kresse:    I think it's also quite funny to see a bunch of English people line dance because it's not a second nature over here.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's so great. Let me go back to this place of ... I do recall part of your initial passion with the fire hoses is helping to reclaim some of these things that people discard, like the fire hoses. Kresse, sometimes in a social enterprise when we find a gap, people always say to me, "Why don't you just do this? Why don't you just do this?" As you've, I'm sure, can expertly discuss, it's not just getting, for example, the leather, the fire hoses, it's figuring out a way to store them, and how do you process it, and what do you do with the extra?</p>
<p>    There are all of these things that go into it. Do you ever foresee a business like yours becoming somewhat of a supplier because you do collect so much, and there might not be some that fit within your products? What happens to the stuff in the middle?</p>
<p>Kresse:    I think the really interesting thing for us is that effectively we're designers. Elvis and I are product designers, but it doesn't stop with the product. We are very carefully curating and designing the whole way that the business runs, so we're always trying to maximize the utility of all the materials. If it's better to work in partnership with someone, if that means we can reclaim more materials, then that's what we'll do.</p>
<p>    If there's a way for us to work with apprentices, or if there's a way for us to ... One of the projects we do in the UK, we run a workshop within a prison here, and that's where we make all of our packaging items. The reason we do that is that prisoners are 60% less likely to re-offend if they're involved in paid work and training while in prison. It's an amazing ...</p>
<p>Kresse:    Paid work and training while in prison. It's an amazing thing to do. It can never stop with just the product. We want to have an exemplary business in every possible way. We want to, in a lot of ways I guess, I want to ride into every meeting I go to on a very high horse and say, "Come on guys pull up your socks. There is a better way to do this." We are on that journey, and we're going to keep getting better, but come on, get on a horse and join us, let's do something. If we're not carefully designing every aspect of what we do, then we're failing.</p>
<p>    If we're not making sure that the materials that we collect have the best possible second life, then we're failing. If the best possible second life comes to us giving the material to someone else, we will give that material away. I often think of a time ... I imagine in the future, a way that actually we can open up our process significantly by opening our doors even wider and letting more and more people in. We generally want to create a more collaborative, helpful movement, that's about rescuing all the resources in the world, not just those that Elvis and I can take.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, I'm writing down so many notes and trying to figure out what are my top questions for you, because I have about 100 and we don't have that much time. You're just really speaking to my heart of systemic change, not just for resources, but people. You're really speaking to my heart.</p>
<p>    I'm going to change directions a little bit, because of what you just said. A burning question in my heart is, how do we all stay motivated when you're working to raise the bar so high and be consistent about raising the bar? Here is what I hear a lot of people say, just to set this up a little bit. Okay, Romy, that's fine that you want to set the bar up there, but that's not sustainable to keep it there. We don't have that kind of environment.</p>
<p>    I just hear a desire to be there, but almost this uncertainty on how to keep the energy up and the strength up to do it that way, when their economies don't have that traditional support, do it differently. This is probably the number one question or comment that we receive. I'd say, Kresse, especially in the last eight months. They say, "Gosh Romy I really want to do it that way. It's the desire of my heart. I don't know how to do that sustainably, or get the other team to buy onto that." Would you be able to comment a little bit on that?</p>
<p>Kresse:    This is a phenomenal question, and I guess there are several answers to it. I am pretty heavily into the climate change movement, and I've got a lot of colleagues there, that are suffering from what they're calling pre-traumatic stress disorder. We've got scientists that have known for 20 years that we were headed the wrong way. They know it. They know it, and their colleagues know it, and 99.9% of them absolutely know it, and they're telling us to do something different, and people aren't changing.</p>
<p>    A lot of people in that field are suffering emotionally from this because they have been raising the bar and people aren't awakening to the reality that their presenting. That is really tough when you're engaged in environmental work and social enterprise because you read the newspaper and you see that bad stuff is happening. It's really just difficult. I am not one of these people who is totally unaware of reality and lives in a bubble, where everything is perfect and happy and nice all the time.</p>
<p>    I get that the realities are fairly stark and actually in the last eight months a lot of has happened. We've had political issues in the UK, and they're happening across Europe and happening in the US. I remember going to one meeting at Oxford University, and somebody said, "Kresse how are you going to react to this new reality and how do you feel about it? Are you going to just sort of throw up your hands?" I said, "Goodness no."</p>
<p>    Up until about eight months ago, I would never have called myself even a feminist. Well heck, I'm a feminist now, if I wasn't one before. It's even more important to be passionate now. It's even more important to stick to your guns now and to be principled. It's more important now to tell like it is and say, "You know what? There are good industries, and there are bad industries. There are exploitive industries, and there are nonexploitive industries. There are companies that are treating their workers unfairly, and there are companies that treat their workers brilliantly."</p>
<p>    One of the big things that keep me going is that we've had ... We became one of the founding UK B-Corps, yeah just basically a year ago, no a year and a half ago, that's when I think when it really started to take off in the UK. That community of companies in the UK is growing and growing and growing. I think we started with 30 of us and there's 100s now. It's the coolest thing you can be as a company. People want to work for B-Corps, and the B-Corps want to trade together and work together.</p>
<p>    I think there is a band of merry men here and we are all going to push the boundary just a little bit further. We want to prove that this is where the future is. What I like about it is that it's using the language of business that is familiar to everyone. You can't pretend that we don't understand. I went to one meeting where someone intimated, the CEO of a very famous, traditional, luxury company intimated that, that I don't exist in the real world, that my company doesn't exist in the real world.</p>
<p>    I just said, "10 years worth of profits. Ten years worth of turning fire hoses into handbags and I don't exist in the real world?"</p>
<p>Romy:    Right.</p>
<p>Kresse:    We all exist in the real world. As far as I know no one from that meeting was from Mars or Venus or the sun. I have a balance sheet and profit and loss sheet and a trading history with her Majesty's customs service to prove it. I think we have to become very clear now, about seeking goodness and delivering on goodness and very clear about what marketing means. For me, marketing is the truth of what we do. That's all it will ever be. There will never be an Elvis and Kresse campaign that is divorced from what we do.</p>
<p>    We have to be very ... Now, more than ever we have to be very clear about what our objectives are, and we have to stay with that mission, and we just have to keep pushing and almost double down on the good aspects of what we do.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. We have a saying here that we decided to start to put on some of our materials last year, late last year and that speaks the truth in love and always demonstrate the impact of that and declare life. Speak life over people and encourage people and things, because the truth is good and it's okay to proclaim your truth. I am in such agreement that, now more than ever we got to be the opposite of fake it till you make it. It doesn't hold water anymore. There are a beautiful courage and authenticity with those of us that are in the field or on the street, or whatever you might say.</p>
<p>    There's such rich learning about collaboration...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-cycling-fire-hoses-kresse-episode-71]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2003</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/605fde95-6331-4f3d-96a8-06aba9fd9f03/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 11:10:52 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/35f4295d-1f80-4ed2-95b6-49c356971f03/kressefull.mp3" length="64136480" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Kresse Wesling updates us on up-cycling used fire hoses and discarded leather for luxury use! Romy catches up with Kresse Wesling. Kresse shares intimate insights on thoughtful expansion and overcoming those times when other’s minimize your work. Great new product line and authentic conversations on social enterprise. Song included by Detroit artist at end. Fun…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: City Girls Farm: Let the Goat Scaping Begin! Episode #70</title><itunes:title>S3: City Girls Farm: Let the Goat Scaping Begin! Episode #70</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3>City Girls Soap becomes a Farm: Let the Goat Scaping begin!</h3>
<p>Amy McIntire joins Romy for an update on the goat farm. Amy shares how the business has evolved from just making soaps and lotions to conservation &#8216;scaping&#8217;. Join in to learn how she is putting &#8216;Kids on the Bus&#8217; in this great catch up. Great music from another Detroit artist at the end.</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Thanks for tuning into this episode on City Girls Farm. This is Romy, and I am your host for this episode. We have lots of good stuff for you here. Our main guest is Amy McIntyre of City Girls Farm; she is one of the owners with her husband, John. We did a fun interview back in Season 1, and this is a great update! They went from three goats to eleven! One of the most interesting developments you will hear about is the new service line, goat scaping!<br />
But first, let’s check out our Fun Fuel with Jentzen. </p>
<p>Jentzen: Goats were introduced to North America in the 16th century by Spanish colonists. For hundreds of years the Spanish goat was a source of milk and meat, but goats did not become an agricultural commodity the way sheep, cattle, pigs and chickens did. Many of the original Spanish goats became feral and populating parts of what would become the United States. For most of United States history, dairy goats were utilized by small family farms as a personal source of milk cheese.<br />
In the early 1930s goat milk started to find a market as an alternative dairy product for those who had allergies to cows' milk. In the 1970s the goat became a perfect farm animal for homesteaders who embraced sustainable agricultural practices: Goats do not take take up as space or require as much feed as cattle. By the 1980s, goat milk and goat cheeses were sought by connoisseurs as gourmet items.<br />
The dairy goat industry has continued steady growth since the 1980s. As of 2013, more than 30,000 farms in the country raise milk goats. In addition to a variety of different cheeses, goat milk is used to make yogurt and even ice cream, and it often serves as feed for other animals.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Jentzen. Let’s keep on rollin’ with goats and jump right over to my conversation with Amy at the Farm.</p>
<p>Romy:    Let's catch up. We interviewed you ... Gosh, now that was season one that we interviewed you.</p>
<p>Amy:    It was 2015, wasn't it?</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, and so you had the three goats at the time when I came to your shop. I wanted to catch up because you've gone through all of this expansion of your services and ... so let's start. We know you changed your name from City Girls Soap to City Girls ... is it Farm, Amy?</p>
<p>Amy:    Yes, and it was more of a re-branding. It was because of City Girl Soap, obviously, it's like, "Oh, bath and body products for the home," and then we realized as we were thinking about expanding and what else we could do using all these goats, which we now have 11 ...</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow.</p>
<p>Amy:    We were talking about after we had done our internship with the kids and everything and we thought, "You know, if we re-brand to City Girls Farm and then City Girls Soap becomes a subsidiary of it, then City Girls Farm is like a one-stop shop where you can get to all things City Girl." That's kind of what we started thinking about early in 2016 and then really got it going in like third quarter 2016.</p>
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<p>Amy McIntire joins Romy for an update on the goat farm. Amy shares how the business has evolved from just making soaps and lotions to conservation &#8216;scaping&#8217;. Join in to learn how she is putting &#8216;Kids on the Bus&#8217; in this great catch up. Great music from another Detroit artist at the end.</p>
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			<p><p>Romy: Thanks for tuning into this episode on City Girls Farm. This is Romy, and I am your host for this episode. We have lots of good stuff for you here. Our main guest is Amy McIntyre of City Girls Farm; she is one of the owners with her husband, John. We did a fun interview back in Season 1, and this is a great update! They went from three goats to eleven! One of the most interesting developments you will hear about is the new service line, goat scaping!<br />
But first, let’s check out our Fun Fuel with Jentzen. </p>
<p>Jentzen: Goats were introduced to North America in the 16th century by Spanish colonists. For hundreds of years the Spanish goat was a source of milk and meat, but goats did not become an agricultural commodity the way sheep, cattle, pigs and chickens did. Many of the original Spanish goats became feral and populating parts of what would become the United States. For most of United States history, dairy goats were utilized by small family farms as a personal source of milk cheese.<br />
In the early 1930s goat milk started to find a market as an alternative dairy product for those who had allergies to cows' milk. In the 1970s the goat became a perfect farm animal for homesteaders who embraced sustainable agricultural practices: Goats do not take take up as space or require as much feed as cattle. By the 1980s, goat milk and goat cheeses were sought by connoisseurs as gourmet items.<br />
The dairy goat industry has continued steady growth since the 1980s. As of 2013, more than 30,000 farms in the country raise milk goats. In addition to a variety of different cheeses, goat milk is used to make yogurt and even ice cream, and it often serves as feed for other animals.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Jentzen. Let’s keep on rollin’ with goats and jump right over to my conversation with Amy at the Farm.</p>
<p>Romy:    Let's catch up. We interviewed you ... Gosh, now that was season one that we interviewed you.</p>
<p>Amy:    It was 2015, wasn't it?</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, and so you had the three goats at the time when I came to your shop. I wanted to catch up because you've gone through all of this expansion of your services and ... so let's start. We know you changed your name from City Girls Soap to City Girls ... is it Farm, Amy?</p>
<p>Amy:    Yes, and it was more of a re-branding. It was because of City Girl Soap, obviously, it's like, "Oh, bath and body products for the home," and then we realized as we were thinking about expanding and what else we could do using all these goats, which we now have 11 ...</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow.</p>
<p>Amy:    We were talking about after we had done our internship with the kids and everything and we thought, "You know, if we re-brand to City Girls Farm and then City Girls Soap becomes a subsidiary of it, then City Girls Farm is like a one-stop shop where you can get to all things City Girl." That's kind of what we started thinking about early in 2016 and then really got it going in like third quarter 2016.</p>
<p>Romy:    Nice. Do you feel that that better captures the essence of what you're doing now?</p>
<p>Amy:    Oh, absolutely. 100%. It's ... because we always wanted to be so much more than just soap and lotion and that was the wonderful thing that allowed us to get our foot in the door and to start showing the way you can use agriculture as a viable industry outside of traditionally what we think of it as being. To be a farm ... I mean, farms were the gathering places of the community. When the United States was so agrarian and it kind of, being in Pontiac, by being City Girls Farm, it kind of brings it back to gathering place. Businesses run out of the gathering place, but a place where people and children can come and learn about everything we're doing.</p>
<p>    What we have to do in the first quarter of this year is actually complete the getting City Girl Soap to be under it. It goes to social media like our Facebook page has to become City Girls Farm, and how do we do that without losing our followers?</p>
<p>Romy:    Right.</p>
<p>Amy:    It's kind of tricky, but it's time-consuming but doable, easily doable.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, over time and ... I can get ... We've had some main changes here at Gen Grass Global and some merges of some of our sub-LLCs into one, and you have to release yourself, that sometimes people are just going to find you on an old Bloomberg or somewhere from six years ago, under the old one. I was getting annoyed, like, "This needs to be fixed," and I released that. It doesn't. It'll all turn out at the end.</p>
<p>Amy:    Right. It will. It will.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, that's exciting, so three goats up to 11. Now I know some of them had babies, right? Tell me about how you went from three to 11. Did you purchase more or was it all from breeding?</p>
<p>Amy:    No, so we had ... When we had first talked we had three, and then they had babies, I think. I've lost track of time. Anyways, we were at five, and then last year in late April of 2016 our two does kidded, which means they had their babies and we literally doubled, we like to say we doubled the goat population of Pontiac, Michigan in two days, because one of our does have twins and then our other doe, Winnie, had quadruplets.</p>
<p>Romy:    Aw. Yeah, wow.</p>
<p>Amy:    They were all named for the historical figures featured in the musical Hamilton this year. We literally have Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr, George Washington, Hercules Mulligan and then Angelica and Eliza Schuyler and those are all the babies.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh my gosh, that's classic. That's so funny because weren't the first goats after ... Was it Footloose? The movie Footloose?</p>
<p>Amy:    No. The first goats were Thor and Loki, so Norse gods, and then Iris and Ladybug, which are just happy girl goat names.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh, okay. I don't know where I got that, okay.</p>
<p>Amy:    Oh, because we have Wren. Our big doe, Wren. That's the guy from Footloose, but it's also a bird.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's right, okay, that's where I got it. I don't know where that got in my head. Okay. Well, I love it. How fun. Okay, and then I remember talking to you, it was not that long ago when you were starting to experiment with, "Gosh what else can I do with the guys, the male goats?" The girls, of course, can produce milk that you can make your products from, but then you found this other use for the male goats with this goat-scaping. Did you try some of that right? What ...</p>
<p>Amy:    We actually did, so after ... It was very interesting because after the does had the babies, all of a sudden we had four males. What's interesting in animal husbandry or livestock farming, what have you, is that literally, the males have no value. We were texting people as the babies were being born and we said, "Oh, it's a boy, it's a boy, it's a boy, it's a boy." We had four boys, and then all of a sudden the two girls and people would text back, "Oh, I'm sorry it was a boy."</p>
<p>    You're sitting there going, "Here's this adorable little animal that you helped be born," and the fine line between human and thinking they're cute and cuddly, and then farmer where you're sitting there going, "This is something that's going to eat, and I need to get a product from it, because ... or else it's just throwing money out the window to feed an animal that doesn't give you a product." My husband, John, said "Oh, well okay. Now we literally have enough goats where we can do trial segments of goat-scaping," where they go out and clear overgrown vacant lots, or we're really finding that there's interest in using them for a bio-remediation of invasive species, without pouring poison into our land which eventually goes into the water. You can use goats and sheep to do a pretty form of an aggressive invasive species eradication program.</p>
<p>Romy:    Just in case, if you're not familiar with the terminology, what would be bio-remediation of invasive species?</p>
<p>Amy:    It's a basically using animals to eat plants that aren't supposed to be in our state. For example, the state of Michigan, there are things that we see every day that isn't supposed to be here. There's a shrub called Autumn Olive, it's invasive to Michigan, and they can either put out something into the ground that kills other plants that are native to the state, or they can take the sunlight from plants that are native to the state. A biologically safe way to do it is using animals as opposed to chemicals. That's kind of what it is. The invasive species, sadly, there's a list as long as your arm of things that have been brought here, that aren't supposed to be here, which are killing what truly belongs in the state, historically.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh, nuts, okay. Well what a great alternative and then it gives you a way to feed them.</p>
<p>Amy:    Exactly, and it's also community outreach. When we did a couple jobs in the city of Pontiac this summer, we always make sure we have some of the young goats with us because we encourage and invite the neighbors to come by with their children and with the grandchildren who have never been around these amazing creatures that are capable of doing so much but also just want to be scratched. It's a great way to ... It's like breaking the ice in your neighborhood. It's opening conversation through cuteness. It's pretty fun.</p>
<p>Romy:    How did ... this might seem like such a silly question but ... I know where you're located and I know a lot about Pontiac. How do you keep the goats from running away? They're sort of a funny bunch.</p>
<p>Amy:    Well, when they're working we have solar powered portable fencing.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh, okay.</p>
<p>Amy:    Yeah. We have solar charged portable fencing that give a really nice shock. I unfortunately tested it by myself without meaning to, but that's how we keep them in. I can turn it off and on so if there are children that want to meet the goats ... Once they've gotten zapped once they learn to respect the perimeters. It's not like they're actively trying to get out. That's how any organization that does this ... This is a very, very popular method of controlling brush on the east and west coast and it's just not something that's used a lot in the mid-west yet. Then when they're on site in Pontiac, it's fenced in like a regular farm, and we actually acquired a livestock guardian dog last year named Gus, who protects all the animals at night.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh, wow. I love it.  What were some of the comments from trying it last summer? Were they amazed? I guess one ... I want to know really were they amazed at how fast these goats cleared ... I'm amazed at that.</p>
<p>Amy:    There was that, but I have to say too, there was also sometimes a sense of urgency, like, "Why are we not seeing this happen faster?" because of they actually ... They're browsers, so it's like at their big goat buffet, and they go from one plant to the other to the other, and if they see someone's of eating something, then they all zip over there. That's why ... I mean, it's really cute. We as humans are so used to ... We live in a world where it's, "I want it now, I want it now, it needs to happen now." This is a very effective but peaceful method of clearing land. You have to like ... It's like going on vacation where it takes a couple of days to decompress. Then all of a sudden you have a different life where you're just relaxed, and you just go with the flow, and it's the same with goat-scaping.</p>
<p>    Once you realize that they will get the job done, but it's in a cyclical pattern, and it has longer-lasting effects than poison, people catch on to it, and there's definitely the whole movement in our world of trying to get away from using chemicals and know your farmer, know your food. It's not going away. It's an ideology I think that's going to stay with us as we move forward and so this fits in perfectly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. I love this idea. They might stop and play.</p>
<p>Amy:    Or at least sit down and let their food digest. They lay in the sun and then they get up and they start eating again. Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. That's exciting. It just takes a bit of learning. How dare we be so controlling, right?</p>
<p>Amy:    Yeah, some things you just can't control.</p>
<p>Romy:    Animals and humans, I just feel like ...</p>
<p>Amy:    Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    This is bad ... well that's exciting. We found a use for the guys if you will.</p>
<p>Amy:    We did.</p>
<p>Romy:    That they're a huge value to. Then what's the mix of the 11? Is there still four males or ...</p>
<p>Amy:    I have to think. Okay, so it's Winnie, Iris, Sophie, Angelica, Eliza. Pardon me, six males, five females.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. Things have got to be getting fun over there at your place.</p>
<p>Amy:    You know, it is. It is fun, and it's sometimes, I mean, it's just been me still, and my husband works on the weekends with us. We've always known, in our life and when we started this company, that, you know ... we've always been here for our kids. Then as soon as the kids were gone, we're like, "Then we can literally just 190% do this." Our daughter is graduating in May from high school, and then we're going to sell our house, move to Pontiac, become a part of the community in which our business is., Then we think this is the point in which we can just watch all of this. There's enough interest out there that I'm actually not concerned. When I think about growing our business in this avenue, it just feels right, and we've worked really, really hard, so we're not doing this on just like, "Oh this will be fun." It's a lot of hard work, but I just think the timing, it's coming together perfectly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. There's something ... You just hit on something that I have found out to be a real truth over the last, especially the last 12 months. I think this is especially true if you're working in any sort of under-resourced community where most of us who do social enterprise work, are working, in under-resourced communities. There's an element there of trust-building that you're going to be around for a little bit. It's the opposite of what I used to see. You got to come out, you got to get big to survive ... there's a little bit of the opposite, of building trust that you're real, you're truthful, you're going to try to work hard, that you're not going anywhere. There's a little bit of a respect thing that can take a few years to develop and you're definitely there.</p>
<p>    It's so interesting that you just said that because that has never been more clear to me than most recently, but the truth of that ... It's not necessarily the big giant office or achieving the big vision that you once had, because that is always in play. You're always moving towards that, but there's the respect of your community that I think people forget to honor sometimes.</p>
<p>Amy:    Well, I think there has to be that. I mean ... because these towns that have these cities that have suffered economic hardships at the hands of large companies that came in, and when the economy turned, they just bulldozed things over and they're gone. But the people can't leave, and they can't leave, or the won't leave, or it's their home. There is this innate protectiveness on their, part of the community, of, "Well, if you're coming in, you know, are you going to be a part of us or are you going to come in, build, and then leave?"</p>
<p>    I think you have to, as a business, be respectful of that. I would never ... Part of it, it's always about ... That's why we say, "Through goats, anything is possible," just because it's the ice-breaker. It's the ability to chat and be like, "This is what we're doing," and then, you get the, "Oh, that's cool. It's happening in my city. Who would have ever thought we'd see this?" It's like, "Well, we're going to be here." I think it's important.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah ... and when did City Girls start? Around 2012 was it that you started?</p>
<p>Amy:    Yeah. We actually got picked up by some grocery stores in 2012. Yeah. Then had been, you know, got into some more and have been flushing out all the other things. Short of doing a dairy. That was the one thing that we decided to stay away from just because there's too much inherent risk in it, and there are a lot more things we can do that are revenue generators but also give back to the community and also are less stressful than trying to run a dairy. That's the one goat thing that's not on the table.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay, that's interesting because you were toying with that last time we talked ...</p>
<p>Amy:    We were. When Johnny got sick in 2015, that was the one thing we took off the table. Your knee jerk reaction when there's like a crisis in your family is, I think, you look at the thing that you think could be causing the most stress and you think, "Well of course we're going to shut it all down." Then you calm down, step back and go, "No. No. We love this. We're committed to this," but if you look at everything you've talked about doing it's going recognize the one thing that doesn't fit. That isn't going to be a part of it. I think as long as you can pivot, stay true to the original concept, and be able to say, "I need to let this go. It just doesn't fit." I mean in some way, does that make you smarter? I think it does.</p>
<p>Romy:    Right, that's a good word to share with everyone, because you don't always need to cut off your arm to spite the bruise you just got, right? That's a really good word. Let's transition a little bit because I want to make sure I have time to just get a quick update on your products then. You were making the soap from the goat milk and then you have this great lotion. I'm in love with your lotion that you make.</p>
<p>Amy:,    Thank you.</p>
<p>Romy:    Are you still making the lotion?</p>
<p>Amy:    Absolutely. We're still making the lotion. It's actually become one of our biggest sellers when we're at market or shows or events. We're trying to figure out how we can wholesale it, because it's such a lovely product, but because it has goat's milk in it, it's not a product that can sit in your cupboard for a couple of years and then you go back to it and think, "Oh, here's some lotion." I mean, it's time-sensitive, so we're figuring out, "How do we get the word out about this?" That's something we're working on but right now our direct marketing to our customers at eastern market is working out really well with that.</p>
<p>    Then we tried to make a liquid soap, I stepped back from that because it was too hard,...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-city-girls-farm-let-goat-scaping-begin-episode-70]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=2001</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/21b4a330-5684-4cb3-8406-d2518ec1e661/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2017 12:22:11 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dad30eac-1fa4-4cc7-8d2f-9b2be6518bd4/citygirlsfull.mp3" length="48023931" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>33:18</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>City Girls Soap becomes a Farm: Let the Goat Scaping begin! Amy McIntire joins Romy for an update on the goat farm. Amy shares how the business has evolved from just making soaps and lotions to conservation ‘scaping’. Join in to learn how she is putting ‘Kids on the Bus’ in this great catch up.…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Bags to Butterflies of Detroit – Episode #69</title><itunes:title>S3: Bags to Butterflies of Detroit – Episode #69</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h4>Michelle Smart of Bags to Butterflies in Detroit!</h4>
<p>Romy interviews Michelle Smart, founder and creator of Bags to Butterflies. Learn how Michelle is empowering women returning from the prison systems to be all that they can be. Transformation and incredible business ideas are moving this social enterprise into possibility.</p>
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			<p>Romy: Hey there! Thanks for tuning-in to another great episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have the honor of hosting.  Some of you may not remember why this show has this name...Bonfires of Social Enterprise. The word 'Bonfires' was used originally by our team to help social entrepreneurs that the bonfires represented the business enterprise portion of their organization. The warmth the bonfires put off represented the social impact for people. We still use the bonfires analogy today to discuss all of the ways we social entrepreneurs tend to walk away from the fire to do more social impact. We always need to remember to tend the fire so we can keep that sustainable impact growing!</p>
<p>On this episode, you will meet Michelle Smart, and she is someone who really gets the notion of tending her fire while making a socially good impact. At the end of the episode, we are showcasing an amazing artist, Nique Love Rhodes, you don’t want miss that one!<br />
Before we meet Michelle, let's hear from our guest ‘Fun-Fueler’, Hudson Robertson of Traverse City, Michigan. By the way, we don't help them with the research or the recording; they do it all by themselves.  What do you have for us today Hudson?</p>
<p>Hudson Roberston: A caterpillar spends most of it’s life crawling on and devouring it’s food source.  When it’s time to become an adult, the caterpillars start to wander away from what they’ve been eating. The caterpillar makes a simple silk pad on the underside of a branch or twig.  It uses a hook-covered appendage called a cremaster to attach itself to it’s pad.  It twists around, embedding it’s cremaster firmly into the silk so it can hang. Then it sheds it’s skin revealing the chrysalis.  (In 2nd grade last year we studied this process and the caterpillars all made their spots at the top of the cage, so that when it was time for the butterfly to come out, it would use it’s wings right away to fly, Cool!)   The time then from chrysalis to Butterfly depends on how warm the climate is but generally the whole process from egg, to caterpillar, to butterfly is about 4 weeks.    Also, I learned that there are more than 20 butterflies and moths currently listed as endangered by the US Fish and Wildlife Service.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Hudson, that was very informative!<br />
Okay, time to meet Michelle Smart. I have to tell you; the interview went quick but, I confess, I wanted to stay and hang out with her, ha ha. Here is part of my conversation with Michelle.....</p>
<p>Romy:    Well, welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, Michelle. I know we've been trying to get together for a little bit to hear about your amazing business and let's start by helping the listeners know what is the business of Bags to Butterflies.</p>
<p>Michelle:    Bags to Butterflies is a social enterprise. We have an outreach to female returning citizens. Our mission is to reduce recidivism within our community by providing employment and training opportunities for women returning home from prison.</p>
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<p>Romy interviews Michelle Smart, founder and creator of Bags to Butterflies. Learn how Michelle is empowering women returning from the prison systems to be all that they can be. Transformation and incredible business ideas are moving this social enterprise into possibility.</p>
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			<p>Romy: Hey there! Thanks for tuning-in to another great episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and I have the honor of hosting.  Some of you may not remember why this show has this name...Bonfires of Social Enterprise. The word 'Bonfires' was used originally by our team to help social entrepreneurs that the bonfires represented the business enterprise portion of their organization. The warmth the bonfires put off represented the social impact for people. We still use the bonfires analogy today to discuss all of the ways we social entrepreneurs tend to walk away from the fire to do more social impact. We always need to remember to tend the fire so we can keep that sustainable impact growing!</p>
<p>On this episode, you will meet Michelle Smart, and she is someone who really gets the notion of tending her fire while making a socially good impact. At the end of the episode, we are showcasing an amazing artist, Nique Love Rhodes, you don’t want miss that one!<br />
Before we meet Michelle, let's hear from our guest ‘Fun-Fueler’, Hudson Robertson of Traverse City, Michigan. By the way, we don't help them with the research or the recording; they do it all by themselves.  What do you have for us today Hudson?</p>
<p>Hudson Roberston: A caterpillar spends most of it’s life crawling on and devouring it’s food source.  When it’s time to become an adult, the caterpillars start to wander away from what they’ve been eating. The caterpillar makes a simple silk pad on the underside of a branch or twig.  It uses a hook-covered appendage called a cremaster to attach itself to it’s pad.  It twists around, embedding it’s cremaster firmly into the silk so it can hang. Then it sheds it’s skin revealing the chrysalis.  (In 2nd grade last year we studied this process and the caterpillars all made their spots at the top of the cage, so that when it was time for the butterfly to come out, it would use it’s wings right away to fly, Cool!)   The time then from chrysalis to Butterfly depends on how warm the climate is but generally the whole process from egg, to caterpillar, to butterfly is about 4 weeks.    Also, I learned that there are more than 20 butterflies and moths currently listed as endangered by the US Fish and Wildlife Service.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Hudson, that was very informative!<br />
Okay, time to meet Michelle Smart. I have to tell you; the interview went quick but, I confess, I wanted to stay and hang out with her, ha ha. Here is part of my conversation with Michelle.....</p>
<p>Romy:    Well, welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, Michelle. I know we've been trying to get together for a little bit to hear about your amazing business and let's start by helping the listeners know what is the business of Bags to Butterflies.</p>
<p>Michelle:    Bags to Butterflies is a social enterprise. We have an outreach to female returning citizens. Our mission is to reduce recidivism within our community by providing employment and training opportunities for women returning home from prison.</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow! Now is there any time frame that you take that they've been in prison or is it just really any time they've spent there?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Some of the women have been incarcerated for over 30 years and we take all of them. Our goal is to provide employment immediately upon being released from prison, just so that they know that when they come home, they have employment, so that's one less thing for them to think about.</p>
<p>Romy:    How did you both come up with the idea to make the bags? I've seen the bags. I want to put some pictures, actually, of your bags on our, on the show notes here, but how did you both come up with the idea to hire that group of women and make the bags?</p>
<p>Michelle:    I'm an artist at heart. I love doing creative things and when I designed the handbags, I actually designed them to be a part of an art show that I was planning to participate in, however, the Lord said, you know, that's not what these are meant to be. You need to do something that's going to impact lives and around that same time, I learned that my best friend's daughter was incarcerated. She made a split second decision that has changed her life for the next seven to 15 years and God is so good, because we were able to put the two together. My thought was that women returning home from prison will need opportunities and the handbags themselves represent rebuilding of one's life, so we were able to put the two together and we developed Bags to Butterflies.</p>
<p>Romy:    The bags, they're really interesting. They're made of a certain types of materials or are they all different? Let's talk all about the bags first.</p>
<p>Michelle:    Yeah. The handbags themselves are made from reclaimed material and then if you can imagine a cabinet panel, they're like a quarter inch wood. We work with an organization or Habitat for Humanity and they provide the back panels of cabinets for us and that's how we make our handbags. We will be incorporating a new line of handbags. I don't know, if I want to announce that right now, but we are expecting to have some new handbags available using a totally different material in March.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. Gosh. How did you get the idea to, were you working with reclaimed products as an artist before? How did you land on the bags specifically?</p>
<p>Michelle:    You know, I have to give God the glory for this because this is not my background and it all just came together. I was playing around with some of the old, the cigar box purses that I have seen and I had that idea. Our handbags are different in the sense that they, if you can imagine a puzzle, they're built using the same concept as a puzzle, but each piece, when the ladies are assembling them, they represent a stage of their life, so when the women are assembling the handbags, it's as if they are rebuilding their life.</p>
<p>Romy:    Who is your primary customer that purchases the bags?</p>
<p>Michelle:    We, our customers are individuals who love the arts. Our customers are individuals who want to make a difference in the lives of others. Women assembling these handbags will be employed and we will empower them to change their life, so individuals purchasing our handbags will be helping us with our mission of reducing recidivism within our community.</p>
<p>Romy:    Recidivism. That's always, I get so tongue tied on that word, but Michelle, would you define that as, that's preventing ... Is the act of recidivism somebody who returns to prison?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    So recidivism is when someone comes out of the system and they end up going back in?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy:    Would that be, correct? Okay. Just for folks that might not be live in the US and might not define that. Then, did you start hiring the women right away or what was the genesis of the business? I think most of us small business owners love to hear the journey of another business person's story.</p>
<p>Michelle:    It has been a wonderful journey. Our first initiative was people giving to people so they can give to others. The ladies came out. We met at a local church. They assembled handbags that were donated to an organization that provides financial assistance to women with breast cancer so you have returning citizens, women who were incarcerated doing something really good to help cancer patients. That was our first initiative and through that we learned that the women were, what they really wanted was to be employed, so our second phase would be, through the handbag project where we will train the ladies to assist with the design, the concept and production of our handbags.</p>
<p>Romy:    Then, how do you decide who you employ, because I know as a business owner, you want to employ so many, but how do you go about deciding, identifying, even, who you hire and what's that process look like?</p>
<p>Michelle:    We work with a couple of organizations. One of the ladies, the organization that we worked with, she is also a returning citizen, so through her organization she vets the ladies who need employment and then she refers them to us. Our initial idea is to pilot with four women. We will hire them immediately upon being released from prison. We will assist them with everything from the clothing to housing and once they get stabilized in those areas, they will come and they will assist us with assembling the handbags. They'll start out with the assembly process and then we will empower them to help us with the design. They'll be trained on various software programs and technologies that will empower them and help them help us with creating new handbags.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. Is it the idea that they would stay with you long term if that's their choice or would they transition on to other employment?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Ideally, we would love for them to stay with us forever but we know that at some point they are going to have to transition to other employment, but we have two models that we're looking at doing. One would be the employment and the other would be the entrepreneurship, so those who may come out of prison with a particular skill that they'd like to enhance and maybe turn into employment opportunities for themselves or become an entrepreneur, we're working on a program that will assist them. Ideally, we'd like them to stay but we know at some point they would transition out of Bags to Butterflies and start a new career somewhere else.</p>
<p>Romy:    It's just dawning on me, how did you come up with the name of your company?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Well, when you think about a butterfly and it transitions, it goes from caterpillar to butterfly state, there is a transition. It has to go through metamorphosis. A lot of the women incarcerated, that's their metamorphosis state. They're being transformed and when they come home, you know, we're hoping to take them to the next level so that they can complete the butterfly state.</p>
<p>Romy:    What are you noticing? You and I talked before the interview about when they've been in the system or in prison for a long time, especially, sometimes up to, as you said, 30 years. That's an enormous amount of time to be almost unplugged from all the technology that's happening. What are you finding the most difficult thing is for them to assimilate? I mean, I can't imagine what that's like.</p>
<p>Michelle:    It's a very difficult transition. One of our ladies had been incarcerated since the age of 15. This is her second year being home. She is actually being paroled in a couple of weeks and she defines it as being very scary. It's, a scary world. She, being confined and having people tell her what to do and how to do it and coming home and she's pretty much on her own and she needs guidance. She's a 45-year-old woman who needs guidance in this new world, this new society that she's not lived in. It's a very big transition for the ladies and they do need help and they appreciate us, being there for them but they realize that a lot of this they have to do on their own and they've been making the necessary steps to do so.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. Everything, you think about the internet. I just, smart phones. Smart TVs, just everything. You think about, just alone in the technology category and oh, goodness. You know? That's a lot, so in terms of working, some of them do work, though, I am assuming in the prison system, so showing up on time and all that is not as much of an issue, I'm certain, as it might be of someone who's never worked, right?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Exactly and what we've found, even with the volunteers, they are very dedicated. They want employment. They want jobs. They want opportunities and they want an opportunity to show that they're capable of doing whatever the job is that they've been tasked to do and they're very very pleasant women, is what I've found. They just want the opportunities.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. What makes you excited as you're watching this happen because it's that point, I think, for us as entrepreneurs, that when it goes from vision, where you're seeing the fruit of that.  </p>
<p>Michelle:    Well, for me, I'll give you an example. A couple of weeks ago we took the ladies on a ski trip and one of the ladies had been incarcerated 30 years and when we turned the corner of this resort, she realized that this is where she skied as a young girl when she was 10 or 11 years old and to see the expression on her face and the smile on her face and she's out there skiing like she's been doing this all along and the excitement. Those are the kinds of things that let us know that we're doing something right and we're making a difference in her life. It's so funny because I got a text from her the morning of the event at three a.m. She said she's been up since three a.m. with excitement because she could not wait to go to Mount Brighton but she didn't realize it was the same place that she had skied as a young girl. Those are the kinds of things that make us happy.</p>
<p>Romy:    Wow. Oh, yeah. The celebration of life, right?</p>
<p>Michelle:    Yes. Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:    I wish everyone could see. She's got such joy on her face. What do you envision this, if you could dream big and not thinking about things like money or if you could let yourself dream big with what you know at this minute, what are some of the things you think about where this could go?</p>
<p>Michelle:    We see Bags to Butterflies becoming a national organization. We see ourselves touching, not just the US but global. We're starting small, of course, but my vision is to take it national and impact the lives of all returning citizens across the globe.</p>
<p>Romy:    Oh, wow. That's a big dream but it can be done, as you know. How do you feel about Detroit as a place to start? Do you feel there's an ecosystem here? People always want to know about that.</p>
<p>Michelle:    Yeah. I believe so. Detroit itself is on the rebound and so just like these women, they're on the rebound. Detroit is at its Renaissance phase. They're starting fresh and new and there's so, much excitement about what's going on in the city and we, as well, are excited about what these women are doing with their lives, so Detroit is a perfect place. We have a lot in common with the rebirth of what's going on in the city.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. Now where do you make the bags? Do you have a separate place or a designated place because a lot of entrepreneurs, I want to let the listeners know, pop up in different places and they make them wherever they can at first, but are you making them in a designated place?</p>
<p>Michelle:    We have a location at a local church and they've been very good about opening their doors to us and allowing us to come in to do our assembly and creating our handbags, so we usually meet once per month. They've just been really good, so we are looking to get our own home. We're looking at third quarter having our very own space and we'll be hopefully be able to come back and share more about that.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah. Well, we'll definitely circle back. We'd love to hear about your journey and then, in the meantime, how would the listeners reach you? Maybe give us your website or social media, if you have social media.</p>
<p>Michelle:    Yes. We have a website. It's bagstobutterflies.com. That's bags B-A-G-S the word to that's T-O butterflies.com. Our Facebook page is the same bagstobutterflies.com on Facebook.</p>
<p>Romy:    I don't know if we caught that. There's a lot of lightning that just happened. It might have come through on the recording. Well, thank you so much, and this has been wonderful. We'll come back for part two.  </p>
<p>Romy: Big thanks to Michelle, she hung in there while we did the interview during a loud thunderstorm.  Jump to our site and look at the show notes for all of the great links to her site.<br />
Now, we have one of my very special Detroit friends, Nique Love Rhodes. She is truly amazing.<br />
She is a hip-hop artist, songwriter, performer, and everyday<br />
revolutionary from Detroit, Michigan.   Nique<br />
 believes that music serves a purpose beyond the artist, and is<br />
meant to bring encouragement, hope, and good vibes to all who listen to it. She infuses her<br />
songs with messages of hope, unity, spirituality, and a call for social change.</p>
<p>As an artist-activist, she consistently strives to uplift people, be a<br />
conduit of positive vibes, and raise collective awareness of solutions for social<br />
issues through song.<br />
 While you can find this song on you-tube, we wanted to feature this today for your listening pleasure. Here is her song, Love Heals All</p>
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<p>Listen in to the powerful testimony of a great leader, his overcoming a poor education and his will to push for experiences for the kids in the neighborhoods of Detroit. Hear why Khali has adopted the phrase &#8216;books before boxing.&#8217;  This is an incredible story of a true change maker.</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have a real treat for you. We are joined by Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit.  Khali does not usually do interviews, and he granted us a favor and let&#8217;s us in on some of his passion for the kids and the big why&#8217; for the boxing gym. And let me give you a little hint, his why has to do with his incredible testimony that he so humbly discusses.</p>
<p>Stay tuned to the end for a great Detroit artist and song.</p>
<p>Now, on this episode, we are changing it up a little bit. We have some new voices of the youth engaging with our show for the fun fuels. For all of our Jentzen fans, don&#8217;t worry, he is just making room for some of the great kids out there to have a chance to participate. If you have a son or daughter that would like to take part in the fun fuels, email us at bonfires@gingrasglobal.</p>
<p>So, our guest today for the fun fuel is Carter Hazen of Midland, Michigan. What do you have for us today, Carter?</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have a real treat for you. We are joined by Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit.  Khali does not usually do interviews, and he granted us a favor and let's us in on some of his passion for the kids and the big why' for the boxing gym. And let me give you a little hint, his why has to do with his incredible testimony that he so humbly discusses.<br />
Stay tuned to the end for a great Detroit artist and song.</p>
<p>Now, on this episode, we are changing it up a little bit. We have some new voices of the youth engaging with our show for the fun fuels. For all of our Jentzen fans, don't worry, he is just making room for some of the great kids out there to have a chance to participate. If you have a son or daughter that would like to take part in the fun fuels, email us at bonfires@gingrasglobal.<br />
So, our guest today for the fun fuel is Carter Hazen of Midland, Michigan. What do you have for us today, Carter?</p>
<p>Carter: This is Carter Hazen and I am bringing you the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
I did some research on the history of boxing, and, I found some particularly interesting facts about the boxing glove.<br />
Accounts of boxing used for entertainment and sport dating back to the Roman Empire. Back in history, rawhide was used to protect the hands of the boxer and, sometimes, weapons were used.<br />
Moving forward in history to 1741, a man named Jack Boughton, also known as the ‘Father of Boxing’,  inspired rules and equipment after he accidentally fatally injured his opponent during his match. He began the writing of rules and experimenting with safer equipment to protect the head and brain. And, in 1865, the boxing glove was approved. Almost 40 years later, in 1904, the sport of boxing held its first match at the St. Louis Olympic Games. More than a century later, the sport continues to thrive thanks, in part, to a man named Jack Boughton, who decided to make change for good.<br />
I hope you...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit</h2>
<p>Listen in to the powerful testimony of a great leader, his overcoming a poor education and his will to push for experiences for the kids in the neighborhoods of Detroit. Hear why Khali has adopted the phrase &#8216;books before boxing.&#8217;  This is an incredible story of a true change maker.</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have a real treat for you. We are joined by Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit.  Khali does not usually do interviews, and he granted us a favor and let&#8217;s us in on some of his passion for the kids and the big why&#8217; for the boxing gym. And let me give you a little hint, his why has to do with his incredible testimony that he so humbly discusses.</p>
<p>Stay tuned to the end for a great Detroit artist and song.</p>
<p>Now, on this episode, we are changing it up a little bit. We have some new voices of the youth engaging with our show for the fun fuels. For all of our Jentzen fans, don&#8217;t worry, he is just making room for some of the great kids out there to have a chance to participate. If you have a son or daughter that would like to take part in the fun fuels, email us at bonfires@gingrasglobal.</p>
<p>So, our guest today for the fun fuel is Carter Hazen of Midland, Michigan. What do you have for us today, Carter?</p>
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			<p><p>Welcome back to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and we have a real treat for you. We are joined by Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit.  Khali does not usually do interviews, and he granted us a favor and let's us in on some of his passion for the kids and the big why' for the boxing gym. And let me give you a little hint, his why has to do with his incredible testimony that he so humbly discusses.<br />
Stay tuned to the end for a great Detroit artist and song.</p>
<p>Now, on this episode, we are changing it up a little bit. We have some new voices of the youth engaging with our show for the fun fuels. For all of our Jentzen fans, don't worry, he is just making room for some of the great kids out there to have a chance to participate. If you have a son or daughter that would like to take part in the fun fuels, email us at bonfires@gingrasglobal.<br />
So, our guest today for the fun fuel is Carter Hazen of Midland, Michigan. What do you have for us today, Carter?</p>
<p>Carter: This is Carter Hazen and I am bringing you the Fun Fuel for this episode.<br />
I did some research on the history of boxing, and, I found some particularly interesting facts about the boxing glove.<br />
Accounts of boxing used for entertainment and sport dating back to the Roman Empire. Back in history, rawhide was used to protect the hands of the boxer and, sometimes, weapons were used.<br />
Moving forward in history to 1741, a man named Jack Boughton, also known as the ‘Father of Boxing’,  inspired rules and equipment after he accidentally fatally injured his opponent during his match. He began the writing of rules and experimenting with safer equipment to protect the head and brain. And, in 1865, the boxing glove was approved. Almost 40 years later, in 1904, the sport of boxing held its first match at the St. Louis Olympic Games. More than a century later, the sport continues to thrive thanks, in part, to a man named Jack Boughton, who decided to make change for good.<br />
I hope you enjoyed this Fun Fuel… Enjoy the Episode.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Carter!  Wow, boxing and boxing gloves have come a long way!<br />
Now, before we drop in on my conversation with Khali, I would like to point out that we did an episode in Season 1 with his right hand, Jessica, where she talks all about the history of the boxing gym. Just as a recap, Khali is the founder and President of the organization. He was the visionary behind the concept of a boxing organization for the youth in the surrounding neighborhoods of Detroit. But...he had an ulterior motive. He wanted to provide a safe place for the kids to be educated after school. Anyone who has spent any amount of time at the gym will hear him say these words 'Books before boxing!'<br />
Let's drop in now on the part of my conversation with Khali.</p>
<p>Romy:    Khali, how did you land on the fact that books would be so important over boxing?</p>
<p>Khali:    It was obvious because a lot of kids are going through the same thing that I went through as a child. I was passed through school, my whole lifetime in school not even knowing how to read or write. I couldn't read or write. Couldn't spell. Barely knew the months of the year and in 2016 kids are still going through the same thing. I find kids that are being straight A students and when you ask them to spell something or read something they can't do it. You know we find out when you test them, they're testing at a second-grade level, and they're in High school.</p>
<p>    That was one of the things from when I started working with some of the kids in the community and started out just trying to give them a safe place to go to get em off the streets, and I realized that they're going through the same problems. So it's definitely books before boxing that's the most important thing. So boxing took a back seat to everything. At that point, it was all about education.</p>
<p>Romy:    I know boxing really attracts them here but how do you get the kids to open up and how to you start to dialogue with them about letting them know how important it is and let them open up when they might feel super vulnerable about that?</p>
<p>Khali:    One of the things I found out later on in life, I had an opportunity to read something about a philosopher. He said you could find out more about a person in an hour of play then you can enjoy a lifetime of questioning. So when you in that relaxed environment you can ask someone a certain questions, and you can get an answer from it. And so they'll open up to you once they uh ... You know you just basically be honest with them, and it's like when you are having fun, and your boxing, and your training, and you learning the discipline, they'll open up to you and tell you a lot of things that they wouldn't normally tell you.</p>
<p>Romy:    Looking at somebody who they can relate to and you can sometimes share your story to help them open up yeah.</p>
<p>Khali:    Yeah. I always give my testimony. I have no problem with it. A lot of people say to me like well you know, well why would you tell people that you couldn't read. Because that's my testimony. That's what I have to give back to my community and give back to our kids. And if I have to put it on the line and do it, I'll do it gladly every time. And I can tell kids not to go down a certain path. There's help out there and not knowing how to read and write, you know for me ... When you tell me I couldn't read or write or I found out I couldn't read or write or I found out that I was failing in school, I took it as a death sentence you know.  A lot of people told me you'd be dead before you twenty-one.</p>
<p>    And so it was like a death sentence to me, so I'm like why to try anything else then. So I just basically gave up on life. And so a lot of kids doing that now. They can't read, they can't write, they feel like they're going to be the butt of all the jokes and what they'll do is they'll just give up to the, and give they self to the streets.</p>
<p>    So it's not a death sentence you can always find help. You just need the, you know,  know where to find it at. It has to be available to you.  One of the things is I want to put something into place where they can get that kind of help and where you don't have to just give up on life.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah or feel like you've only got one or two paths to succeed. Like there's a lot of different ways to succeed in life but sometimes the hope diminishes, and you don't feel like there are any other options for you.</p>
<p>Khali:    One of the things that we been doing now is teaching kids, or exposing kids to stuff that they wouldn't normally get exposed to. This summer they had the opportunity to do robotics and computer coding. Some of them went to horseback riding camp. Some of them went mountain climbing in Colorado. They did stand up paddle boarding. They did a lot of different things. They got exposed to a lot of different things. They did mock trials in the federal court system, and so they got exposed to a lot of things. So now we have an enrichment program we call it ... I like the word enrichment because it actually enriches the kid's lives and it brings something to the table that they normally wouldn't be exposed to in their day to day life at school.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, and how many kids do you have now?</p>
<p>Khali:    I believe it's over 170 and we have over 700 on a waiting list.</p>
<p>Romy:    I think last time, I was here about a year and a half ago, Jessica said there was about 350 on a wait list at that point. So it just keeps growing. I can only imagine you'd probably put another 1000 on there, wouldn't you?</p>
<p>Khali:    I don't want to put kids on a waiting list. That's the problem when you have these kids sitting around at home with nothing to do they find trouble or trouble finds them. I don't want ... Life has no waiting list; life has no pause button. You can't put they life on pause something would come into they life.  I would definitely want 'em to find some type of positive places like this or any other positive place that we can recommend for 'em.</p>
<p>Romy:     It used to be about a 1000 dollars to sponsor a kid. Is it about the same? I want to let the listeners know how they can help.</p>
<p>Khali:    With the growth that we had, we in a different facility now, a bigger facility. The cost of it is going up because we actually have another paid staff member. We actually have two more vans now that go out and pick up more kids. The cost is going up just a little bit, but it's not that much to take a kid from a straight F student and turn a kid into a straight A student and graduate on time. 100% of our kids have been graduating on time and going to college or trade schools or whatever the case may be.  There's no price to put on that.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's right, that's a good word, good marketing right there. We saw the other vans out there that's exciting. So for people who don't live in this area why are vans important around here?</p>
<p>Khali:    We have an outdated transportation system here in the city. They're doing a good job with trying to rebuild it right now which is good, but still, a lot of our kids live in some remote parts of the city, on the outskirts of the city and they have to get here. It's not always the safest way to travel by bus or whatever the case may be. A lot of their parents don't have transportation themselves. The vans are very important to getting the kids here, and getting them off the streets and giving them a place to go.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, and is it still mostly after school that you're trying to connect with them right? They're going during the day.</p>
<p>Khali:    Yup, it's after school. It's four to seven Monday thru Friday. It's free of charge. There's no cost. All of our kids must do community service, though. They have to do to community service, it's a big part of it, and that's books before boxing. You don't get a chance to compete for anything unless you get your grades in the position where we can track you.</p>
<p>Romy:    And what kind of community service do you typically have them working on?</p>
<p>Khali:    We do a lot of stuff. We do a lot of stuff with Gleaners and Forgotten Harvest. We go out and pick food for the hungry here in Michigan a lot. We do a lot of neighborhood cleanups and stuff like that. And anything else, if you've got something for us to do call us.</p>
<p>Romy:    (Laughter) I'm sure there's a lot of joint projects out there. Alright, so what's been one of the things that have surprised you about the kids as you started this? Either with the school or the boxing? Is anything surprised you about what the kids have achieved?</p>
<p>Khali:    What surprised me the most is that a lot of kids came here with this impression that they are going to be a famous fighter or something. But they left knowing that they could be doctors or lawyers and stuff like that. So for me to change their mindset of thinking that you gonna be some famous athlete, which rarely happens in history. I mean those are rare occasions that people become famous athletes, but if you put education as plan A and not plan B you can always become a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, you know something like that, we just want ... You know architects. We have kids that are in medical school now. We have kids that had an opportunity to go to a collage of creative studies and different places and great universities all across the country, so it's cool to see that.   You don't often see a professional fighter.</p>
<p>Romy:    Right or many would say they don't live as long if that's their main thing.</p>
<p>Khali:    Right right you know boxing is a short-lived career. You ready for retirement at 30. I know some doctors and stuff they still going.</p>
<p>Romy:    That's right.</p>
<p>Khali:    Still making money.</p>
<p>Romy:    Or even serving right yeah. It's a way to help serve others. Well, that's exciting and how many kids have gone through the program no so far?</p>
<p>Khali:    Right off hand I don't know the number, but you can ask Jessica. She definitely has the number for you.</p>
<p>Romy:    Jessica's been a real blessing hasn't she?</p>
<p>Khali:    Oh Yeah she's the life blood of this organization.</p>
<p>Romy:    She'd say the same thing about you.</p>
<p>Khali:    Oh no no that lady's up all day and night working on this thing. She's sacrificed a lot.</p>
<p>Romy:    Well she's inspired, it inspires her. Well, what are the things that you're working on, dreaming about for the kids these days?</p>
<p>Khali:    Well for the gym right now the most important thing is making sure that the building is where it needs to be as far as like the roof, and we don't want to keep spending a lot of money on like utilities you know when the building is not really, the roof is not really insulated as it should be. The bricks are not insulated. So we want to get this building insulated so we can stop bleeding money in utilities. So we have to get this building insulated.</p>
<p>Romy:    So that would be priority number one.</p>
<p>Khali:    Priority number one is to get the building insulated and fix that roof.</p>
<p>Romy:    Is someone working on that for you right now?</p>
<p>Khali:    We're working on it.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. I know how that goes as an entrepreneur. I'm doing it.</p>
<p>Khali:    We're shaking the can right now.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. Alright, and what else? What's beyond that, that you envision? I know you dream about things for the kids.</p>
<p>Khali:    You know it's just more enrichment things. I was happy to do this enrichment stuff this summer where we actually had an opportunity to send a lot of kids out to learn stuff. To sit down with professionals and like I said to do mock trials in the Federal court system. If we can get some more stuff like that going that'd be wonderful. It would be awesome if we could get them in some tech based companies or something like that. That's what I would like to see.</p>
<p>Romy:    So, Jessica handles most of the administrative stuff. She handles a lot of the strategic planning and that. I know your eyes are on the kids. What is your main concern that you are trying to make sure that the kids get here?</p>
<p>Khali:    Just make sure that they get here safely. They learn how to deal with conflicts in a manner that is not violent. Teach them about the importance of walking away from certain situations and surround themselves with the right people, people of the same mindset of going forward and doing positive things in their life and staying away from negative crowds and negative vibes. I'm just basically teaching life lessons to kids. If I have to use myself as an example, then I tell them about it all the time, so they don't have to go down that path.</p>
<p>Romy:    I mean sometimes people just don't have someone speaking the truth to them, right?</p>
<p>Khali:    Yeah, a lot of stuff that they see, imagery that they see on TV and throughout the day and them day to day lives is like all based off of ... A lot of it is based on the lack of knowledge of what is really going on. If you peel it back just a little bit, you can find out what's really going on and the truth if you look out there for it. You know the internet is not just used for watching videos. You can use the internet to gain information and stuff. We have to put them to some of the right websites and stuff like that instead of just always negative websites of people fighting or doing something ridiculous or talking about negative stuff. We can talk about positive things and look at other parts of the world, and maybe one day you can go there and travel there and do some of these things.</p>
<p>    That's what I like to do because I grew up with guys that haven't been off the block. These guys are in the same spot that I left 20, 30 years ago. They are standing in the same spot talking about the same things. If they are not in prison, they are in prison themselves in a four block radius. They are in the same neighborhoods doing the same thing that they were doing 20 years ago. I would hate to see another generation go down that path.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah, is that how you started to get interested in maps and bridges and some of that?</p>
<p>Khali:    Yeah, you know it's like I had to open my mind and stop just looking at the stuff that was around me and start thinking about what else is in the world. My older brother was a big part of telling me that. He's like, "The world is bigger than your neighborhood, man. You have to get out of this neighborhood. The world is bigger than that." At the time when he said it, I was thinking to myself like "Shut up, I don't want to hear that fantasy talk." You know what I mean? The world is right here. One day I really looked around, and it was like it was nothing there. It was nothing. It was hopelessness. It was despair. There were no resources. There were nothing around me.</p>
<p>    It took him to actually get me to come to his house. He showed me a picture at his house. It was all of my friends. He told me. He said, "All of you friends are either dead or in jail. All of your friends are either dead or in jail." He took me to his house and told me to help him move some stuff around at his house. When I was moving it, he said, "Look at that picture." It was like all of my friends. Most of these guys were dead or in jail or on the run, you know, about to be going to prison. It took him to really open my eyes to it, so I'm trying to open a lot of these kids eyes to what's really going on. If they really look, they are losing friends at a crazy rate. A lot of their friends are getting murdered now. We have kids here who are small kids who've seen guys with their heads blown off already. That's just like they are living in a war zone. We want to steer them away from that type of stuff.</p>
<p>Romy:    Do the kids know that you have a]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-khali-sweeney-downtown-boxing-gym-youth-program-episode-68]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1994</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cc7d9396-95c0-4192-852e-5bfa5d682de8/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:39:56 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/a15925fc-5093-42bd-b3fc-fddf82945e06/kahlisweeneyfull.mp3" length="31476873" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:48</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Khali Sweeney of the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program in Detroit Listen in to the powerful testimony of a great leader, his overcoming a poor education and his will to push for experiences for the kids in the neighborhoods of Detroit. Hear why Khali has adopted the phrase ‘books before boxing.’  This is an incredible…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Overflow Coffee Bar of Chicago – Episode #67</title><itunes:title>S3: Overflow Coffee Bar of Chicago – Episode #67</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3>Overflow Coffee Bar &#8211; Brandon &amp; Amanda Neely &#8211; Chicago</h3>
<p>Season 3 kicks of with a great social enterprise out of Chicago&#8217;s South Loop. Get to know owners Amanda and Brandon Neely and listen how they overcame fears, built community, and decided that free is no good! As they sourced ethical coffee, they built a business and even took on a PRI!</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome everyone to our official kick-off of Season three! This is Romy, and I want to thank you for hanging in there with us while we worked to prepare some episodes ahead of time. We have about 20 good episodes lined up for you this season. And today, we are starting off with a bang!</p>
<p>You will meet Brandon and Amanda Neely, the owners of the Overflow Coffee Bar in Chicago&#8217;s South Loop.  They share some candid thoughts on overcoming fears such as public speaking and perfectionism along with great ideas for community and customer engagement. They even give some of their definitions of ethical sourcing and why &#8216;free is not okay!&#8217;</p>
<p>Stay tuned until the end to listen to a great Detroit artist, Astray, and his song &#8220;Dance with you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Before we get rolling, let&#8217;s see what Jenzten has to share with us about some of the urban legends around the history of coffee in our episode&#8217;s Fun Fuel&#8230;.</p>
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<p>Romy: So welcome Amanda and Brandon to The Bonfires of Social Enterprise.</p>
<p>Amanda: Hi.</p>
<p>Brandon: Hey thanks for having us.</p>
<p>Romy: I'm excited to talk to you guys. We met maybe two or three years ago when I was in Chicago?</p>
<p>Brandon: I think it was three years ago.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. I've been following your progress. And you'd been open at that point I think about a year or a year and a half?</p>
<p>Brandon: Yeah. We've been open about five and a half years now.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. Well we should tell the listeners that you guys are married and running not just a coffee shop, Overflow Coffee, but we're going to hear today about a ton of cool things that you guys have in the works. So let's anchor everyone that doesn't know you right now about Overflow Coffee. So what is Overflow Coffee right now for Chicago?</p>
<p>Brandon: So Overflow Coffee Bar is the third place, we call that the third place, where you would go as home, work, and then you go somewhere else, like your grandma's house or something. And we wanted to really create a third place in the south loop of Chicago, and that's where we came up with the idea of Overflow. Building community, and then also, the reason we started more of a social enterprise as ethical economics, coffee is the second most widely traded commodity in the world, and Americans, the number one consumer.</p>
<p>And so as we were thinking about this years ago, we were like, we want to build community but we also want to change the world for the better, and what better way to do that then buying ethical coffee, so bridging community building and ethical economics and then we started the idea of Overflow Coffee Bar, and then in the place where we're at, there's a whole lot of space around us, which Amanda will share about, that we're housed in. So we're a part of a school that meets in the building, actually owns the building. And then there's a bunch of non-profits that are here as well.</p>
<p>Romy: So you got some natural traffic there, and just for those that don't know, would you guys mind giving some definition to what ethical coffee means?</p>...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Overflow Coffee Bar &#8211; Brandon &amp; Amanda Neely &#8211; Chicago</h3>
<p>Season 3 kicks of with a great social enterprise out of Chicago&#8217;s South Loop. Get to know owners Amanda and Brandon Neely and listen how they overcame fears, built community, and decided that free is no good! As they sourced ethical coffee, they built a business and even took on a PRI!</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome everyone to our official kick-off of Season three! This is Romy, and I want to thank you for hanging in there with us while we worked to prepare some episodes ahead of time. We have about 20 good episodes lined up for you this season. And today, we are starting off with a bang!</p>
<p>You will meet Brandon and Amanda Neely, the owners of the Overflow Coffee Bar in Chicago&#8217;s South Loop.  They share some candid thoughts on overcoming fears such as public speaking and perfectionism along with great ideas for community and customer engagement. They even give some of their definitions of ethical sourcing and why &#8216;free is not okay!&#8217;</p>
<p>Stay tuned until the end to listen to a great Detroit artist, Astray, and his song &#8220;Dance with you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Before we get rolling, let&#8217;s see what Jenzten has to share with us about some of the urban legends around the history of coffee in our episode&#8217;s Fun Fuel&#8230;.</p>
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<p>Romy: So welcome Amanda and Brandon to The Bonfires of Social Enterprise.</p>
<p>Amanda: Hi.</p>
<p>Brandon: Hey thanks for having us.</p>
<p>Romy: I'm excited to talk to you guys. We met maybe two or three years ago when I was in Chicago?</p>
<p>Brandon: I think it was three years ago.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. I've been following your progress. And you'd been open at that point I think about a year or a year and a half?</p>
<p>Brandon: Yeah. We've been open about five and a half years now.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. Well we should tell the listeners that you guys are married and running not just a coffee shop, Overflow Coffee, but we're going to hear today about a ton of cool things that you guys have in the works. So let's anchor everyone that doesn't know you right now about Overflow Coffee. So what is Overflow Coffee right now for Chicago?</p>
<p>Brandon: So Overflow Coffee Bar is the third place, we call that the third place, where you would go as home, work, and then you go somewhere else, like your grandma's house or something. And we wanted to really create a third place in the south loop of Chicago, and that's where we came up with the idea of Overflow. Building community, and then also, the reason we started more of a social enterprise as ethical economics, coffee is the second most widely traded commodity in the world, and Americans, the number one consumer.</p>
<p>And so as we were thinking about this years ago, we were like, we want to build community but we also want to change the world for the better, and what better way to do that then buying ethical coffee, so bridging community building and ethical economics and then we started the idea of Overflow Coffee Bar, and then in the place where we're at, there's a whole lot of space around us, which Amanda will share about, that we're housed in. So we're a part of a school that meets in the building, actually owns the building. And then there's a bunch of non-profits that are here as well.</p>
<p>Romy: So you got some natural traffic there, and just for those that don't know, would you guys mind giving some definition to what ethical coffee means?</p>
<p>Amanda: Okay, let me jump in on that one. So the way that coffee normally happens still has a lot of roots from imperialism and slavery. And a lot of the coffee farmers that grow what you might typically find in a grocery store are paid at very unfairly for the labor that they do. What we do with our ethically treated coffee, is we actually have more of a direct trade relationship with the farmers. And our roaster, his name's Tim Taylor, he goes directly to work with the coffee farmers, and then he arranges the export and the import of the coffee and then roasts it, and then we get it the next day. So we know the whole process of what happened with the coffee and everything. And we know for sure how much he paid those farmers. And typically it's at least 25% more then the fair trade rate, so it's even better then what you might know as fair trade certified coffee, and that money is going directly into the farmer's hands, rather then, all these different middle-men in between, and you're not really sure how much that farm made.</p>
<p>So there's all of those checks and balances in the system, and we can know for sure who that farmer is, what they were paid, and that they're being able to provide for their family. Plus a lot of those same farmers use organic processes for growing their coffee too. They don't use pesticides, and [inaudible 00:04:32] like that. So we know that it's going to be good for the environment as well.</p>
<p>Romy: And so you guys have built a community there. What are some of the things that you found using this coffee sourcing and the coffee bar, how do you feel that that's helped start to create this community?</p>
<p>Brandon: Well first we started knowing our neighbors and then South Loop is a fairly new neighborhood. People tend to think, oh it's the South Loop, so therefore there's a lot of businesses, thriving businesses and all that. It was the fastest growing neighborhood in 2007, then the recession hit, and everything tanked. And so it's still recovering, so there's a lot of people moving here, but there's not a lot of businesses here. One of the things we learned as we were developing Overflow and learning, they always said, "Oh well you need to connect to Chambers of Commerce. You need to connect to those organizations that have been there for a long time."</p>
<p>The challenge for us is there is no Chamber of Commerce for the South Loop because there was no South Loop actually a few years prior. And so we saw this as a challenge of how do we grow our business? How do we develop this? And so when you think about grassroots, doing something from the grassroots, we were like, well let's connect business leaders and all that stuff. And so over the course of time, accidentally started a Chamber of Commerce in the South Loop. We call it the South Loop Business Exchange, that we were helping to lead, start, and now actually, just last month set up a board, and we're able to successfully hand off the presidency to another business owner in the South Loop which was real, really encouraging. And seeing where a community was built and where we are seeing not just our friends coming and customers, but we're developing a relationship of commerce around the neighborhood.</p>
<p>Romy: Well that's great. There's something special about even having a meeting place sometimes.</p>
<p>Brandon: Yes. And seeing as I meet my customers, they have their passions and their dreams, and as they're working here, I'm able to connect them to other people who are in similar industries or similar passions, and that's been really cool to see over the past five years.</p>
<p>Romy: I know you guys do some interesting things too. When I was there about three years ago, you guys were doing some fun things with sticky notes. You're probably way beyond that, but I've never forgotten that because I thought, "Gosh these guys give people that are in and around the all different kinds of ways to opt in and engage at the level that they want to do." And I just thought that, was such an interesting way to keep everyone connected.</p>
<p>Brandon: Yeah, and the sticky note idea, that was, like Amanda's very thoughtful in her language, and so she would come up with a question, "How do you define poverty?" As one of our questions. And then people would respond with the sticky notes of their definition of poverty. And so that was really cool to see our customers interact on that scale.</p>
<p>Romy: Because I feel that that makes you different and I feel like it keeps people in your place, especially when there isn't a street full of other businesses that they would, it's not a destination place other then, it might be convenience in the neighborhood but Amanda, what other things like that have worked well for you guys to keep your customers and well, I'd say beyond customers, these relationships engaged?</p>
<p>Amanda: Yeah, there's been so many things. Starting at customer level, it's definitely taking the time to talk to each person. It's not just what's your order, but how is your day going, and having a longer dialogue that way. Not just accepting fine as an answer, talking more then just about the weather and politics, or maybe a little politics, but not too much. And then we've been blogging since way before we even opened. Just help build that community before we even had a-</p>
<p>Amanda: [inaudible 00:10:00] help build that community before it even had a physical space that we were going to be in. Doing some events too, and now we're actually taking a lot of what we learned and we started a new website overflowyourpossibility.com where we're reaching out to anybody who speaks english or can read english, or can use a google translator and sharing a lot of the things that we've learned that way and hoping that we can, as they engage with that content, we can also help those people engage with each other too. So now that we've got five years under our belt, we're starting to reach out further and figure out how do we take the things that we've learned and our message of ethical economics and community building and share that with like minded people all around the world.</p>
<p>Romy: Well that's great, you're hitting on one of the things that always comes up. And you guys five years in, it's important to talk about the profit thing. Brandon and I dialogued a little bit about it before this interview and it's something that I've always said, when Social Enterprise became a thing and we named it that some years ago, one of the thoughts I always had and I always thought, gosh I kinda have a bent because I came out of financial planning but I'm always like, man one of the first things about sustainability is being able to keep your doors open.</p>
<p>You can deliver all kinds of social impact but you got to have an opportunity to keep it going and so you got to have a positive cash flow and early on, I'd say, seven, eight years ago when this started to become hot topics conversation, when I'd say that people looked at me as if I had some sort of level of evil or something. [inaudible 00:11:58]. And I had to be like, well you know, I was just like, how are we going to keep this going long term? And now it's starting to be a good idea and I'm so thankful.</p>
<p>Brandon: Well, I think that's a big thing. For us, we came into this, and as a younger entrepreneur's coming into this, we come in idealistic, and we have our business plan, and we're like, "Oh yeah it's going to be perfect for that business." And then life happens. And you, realize, like for us, we had Mariano's that came up right next door front to us, and we can't compete with them. But we have other things that we really built into our DNA, the people and planet, that really helped us to be able to take it to this level. But, we also the profit part, it was real, really, scary in that season because we weren't really thinking about that as much. And so having all three of those things did help us, but it really helped us to be more knowing our numbers, knowing how we can overcome things. That was one of those challenges that we had to face.</p>
<p>Amanda: So I would actually add on to what Brandon is saying, that's how we felt when we just had our head down in our business, focused on things, we were so discouraged, how are we going to actually make this work, we had this idea that if it's not profitable, it's not sustainable, so we have to work really hard to make it profitable, and it totally [inaudible 00:13:48] get there [inaudible 00:13:49] we're not ready to let up on pushing the gas pedal. And then after our five year anniversary, we started looking around the social enterprises around us and talking to other people that knew where they were at in terms of profitability and sustainability, and we realized we actually have a ton to be proud of. We got a Program Related Investment after being open for a year, and that really helped us get all of the different loans that we had to take, consolidated the lower interest.</p>
<p>And we've never missed a payment, paying that back, and we're almost, we're seven months from paying it back in full, and we found out that a lot of social enterprises, those Program Related Investments are supposed to be a low interest loan, but it turns into a grant, and they never get paid back. So for us to have paid it almost all the way back, and never missed a payment, we have a lot to be proud of. That means we're a lot more sustainable, or profitable then we thought we were when we look at comparable, other social enterprises around us. And just to make it five years is a big accomplishment as well.</p>
<p>Romy: I'll say. Yeah, and well done on that, for the listeners who aren't familiar with PRI or Program Related Investment, typically that comes from foundations when they are, some foundations are willing to make an investment that's related to their social programming, or their missional programming at their foundation. And then if it doesn't work out, then they can turn it into a grant, just for those that are unfamiliar with it, and they're intended to be investments into for-profit social ventures. So yeah that's incredible, and the five-year mark, that's a real milestone. I don't think people realize what a milestone that is, specifically in a bigger city, where some of the costs are higher for rent, so there are all kinds of challenges in every place in the world but sometimes in the bigger US cities, the expenses are a bit higher, and it's a big deal.</p>
<p>Well, congratulations, there's so many things, I'd love to ask you about, but I want to make sure that we get some of the questions I had in mind about you guys. You guys as thought leaders are moving way beyond, what did you say, Brandon, the barista's behind the bar, could we talk about some of this transitioning you're doing now?</p>
<p>Brandon: Yeah so a lot of times people, this is how we work as individuals. We like to label people, and when we say, "Hey how's it going? And what do you do?" So as soon as we meet somebody, we find out they're a doctor and then we put them in a box, which is good in some aspects, but also it can be challenging especially when, I'm not just a barista, or the owner of a coffee shop, I'm a whole person and that's part of each entrepreneur that starts.</p>
<p>And so we're stepping into being coaches and creating courses and things like that to help people in the social enterprise world because we might not be in the same industry but a lot of our challenges are the same, and maybe the lack of community or people who don't understand what it means to not being able to pay your bills or things like that. From a business side, we want to help foster and create more chances of success, then more chances of failure, and so that's where we're leading into helping, use what we've learned to mobilize other people to make a bigger impact. Whether it's in Chicago, I'd love to do it through the Chicago area, but all around the world. We're a interconnected world, how do we help each other succeed in that? Does that make sense?</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, so the format is going to be online coaching, or how?</p>
<p>Brandon: Yeah, so we'll be doing some, I'd say we're going to work on creating a course soon, that will come out probably in January. And then the great thing in our time and place in the world right now, is the technology that we have, that we can connect with anybody via like you and I over headphones and a computer, we can build relationships through the technology and really be there with somebody and not sometimes be present. I do think there's an importance of being physically present, that's why we have a brick and mortar spot, that I think is super, super, key, but also when we are in our business we don't have time to necessarily go to a meeting that takes an hour plus travel time and all the other stuff and then you don't build that. So we want to help foster those kind of relationships through maybe masterminds, those kind of things. And leverage the resources and the relationships we've built over the past few years.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, and so the goal would be to perhaps encourage others, what would be the overall goal and your target audience sounds like it would be other social enterprises?</p>
<p>Amanda: So I'm really passionate, as a passionate person, that I believe that if people were able to really figure out-</p>
<p>Amanda: Believe that if people were able to really figure out what their passion is and how to pursue that passion in a way that really gives them life, that they're actually doing to change the world and make it better for everybody that's here. For some people that'll look like starting a social enterprise, for other people that might look like volunteering for a nonprofit. For other people that might look like we're working for a big corporation, but being able to connect that in with their passion. That's really the journey that we went on, starting about ten years ago. We were trying to figure out, how do we take what we really, really love to do and what gives us life and creates, and do that as much as possible.</p>
<p>That's what actually led us on this journey towards starting an Overflow Coffee Bar. That's still what's leading us forward in this journey toward helping inspire and teach others. That's what it really boils down to. Because we're social entrepreneurs, we think we might naturally attract people who are social entrepreneurs. It really it could be anybody who really, really can't imagine living their life without accomplishing what they're passionate about, and doing that with as much time as possible. Some people that might mean they get to change a couple of hours a week during this season of their life, but then they're able to really do full time after they "retire." For other people, it might mean that they go on a big journey like us and leave the comfort of a cubicle and start their own business.</p>
<p>We don't want to say that nobody ... We want to say that everybody can do their passion. We really believe that doing that is actually what's going to make the world a better place. We want to be able to empower stay at home moms to do that, or stay at home dads. People who are "retired" from a regular job. College students and everybody in between.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow. It sounds like there's going to potentially be some consulting in there as well.</p>
<p>Amanda: The big thing about what we had ... I'm a millennial, I'll just put that out there. The big thing about us millennials is that we don't like to be told what to do. We like to be asked questions that help us figure it out on our own. With the right questions it's way better than just telling us what to do, and we get the same result. It's actually why we learned about coaching. We actually became certified as coaches. Coaching is all about asking the right questions. We don't want to necessarily just be...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-overflow-coffee-bar-of-chicago-episode-67]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1990</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b34d74fa-f403-4323-90f1-eacece76289f/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:57:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/325f25b4-73df-4f90-ab5f-833c8e7a5a3c/overflowcoffeefull.mp3" length="71421326" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Season 3 kicks of with a great social enterprise out of Chicago&apos;s South Loop. Get to know owners Amanda and Brandon Neely and listen how they overcame fears, built community, and decided that free is no good! As they sourced ethical coffee, they built a business and even took on a PRI!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S3: Impact Crushin’ – Top Six Countdown #66</title><itunes:title>S3: Impact Crushin’ – Top Six Countdown #66</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Season 3: Top Six Impact Crushin&#8217; BEhaviors</h2>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Welcome to Season Three of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!</strong></p>
<p>This is Romy, and I am the host of today&#8217;s episode that we are calling ‘Impact Crush!’  We are doing a Top 6 countdown on behaviors we are crushin’ on. And, at the end, we are going to leave you with the most popular artist and song from Season 2- a real crowd favorite!</p>
<p>You might be wondering who ‘WE’ is….The WE is me, Romy, and my partner, Natalie Hazen. Welcome Natalie!</p>
<p>Romy: Natalie, what do you say, we move into the Top 6 countdown?</p>
<p>Natalie: Let&#8217;s do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, here we go&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Here is the Impact Crush Countdown- Top 6 Impact <strong>BE</strong>-haviors we have a Crush on over here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 6!  BE HAPPY for others. Their success does not leave <em>less </em>room for yours.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: lots of room for all of us to be successful!</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 5! BE AUTHENTIC.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: The world is full of copies! Your originality and unique purpose are critical to the overall survival of social enterprise. Now, we don&#8217;t mean stick out in a crowd just to draw attention to yourself. I mean, if you need to be separate because it is part of who are, then do it!  Just do it in love</p>
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<p><strong>Natalie: Number 4!  BE A PRACTIONER. Practice your craft, practice your pitch, practice your operations, practice your speaking, practice, practice, practice.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: We can never practice enough.  I can easily take the bait and just did it last week, on why do I have to explain this again. Granted it probably was the 200<sup>th</sup> time I went over something, but it was the first time for that person I was talking to. Practice. Part of a good social enterprise is role modeling, and practice is a key to excellence. Just ask any Olympic athlete!</p>
<p>Natalie: Practice makes permanent</p>
<p>Romy: Sometimes we have to repeat ourselves a lot, do the basics</p>
<p>Natalie:  (say something here)</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 3! BE A LOVER OF OTHERS.  Be a lover of others. We don’t mean slobbering over someone in a romantic manner. In this context, we mean loving others when they aren’t acting right or loving you back.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: We people don’t always act right and, often, love must be a choice. Loving others involves patience, kindness, encouragement, listening, protecting, trusting, always hoping, <strong>always </strong>persevering with them. We are not asking anyone to be a saint; we are saying make the choice to BE A LOVER! We are watching social enterprises, and impact investors make the choice to love even under extreme conditions.</p>
<p>Natalie: We have had a lot of people say NOT nice things about us in public, people we don’t know, but we love on them, and they become our biggest supporters.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh yeah. We love people.</p>
<p>Natalie: Remember when those people sued you and were able to take the bank accounts?</p>
<p>Romy: Yes,  ha, it is hard to forget. We won that, but I remember sitting in meetings about people investing millions with 0.00 in my bank account. Ha</p>
<p>Natalie: But, we won that false claim and made friends with them.</p>
<p>Romy: Yup!  Ha, that was kind of about us, wasn’t it?</p>
<p>Natalie: Yup, ha ha, we’ll we are pretty great too! Just sayin’… Move on?</p>
<p>Romy: Let’s do it!</p>
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<p><strong>Natalie: Number 2! BE AN INFLUENCER.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Be such an influencer that people want to copy you and steal your stuff!  Be an influencer that takes full responsibility for what they write, record, post, and speak- both privately and publicly.</p>
<p>Natalie: I feel pretty good, people take our stuff all of the time…</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, I think we know of at least 40 times, no biggy, it is kind of an honor…ha ha</p>
<p>Romy: Be...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Season 3: Top Six Impact Crushin&#8217; BEhaviors</h2>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Welcome to Season Three of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise!</strong></p>
<p>This is Romy, and I am the host of today&#8217;s episode that we are calling ‘Impact Crush!’  We are doing a Top 6 countdown on behaviors we are crushin’ on. And, at the end, we are going to leave you with the most popular artist and song from Season 2- a real crowd favorite!</p>
<p>You might be wondering who ‘WE’ is….The WE is me, Romy, and my partner, Natalie Hazen. Welcome Natalie!</p>
<p>Romy: Natalie, what do you say, we move into the Top 6 countdown?</p>
<p>Natalie: Let&#8217;s do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, here we go&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Here is the Impact Crush Countdown- Top 6 Impact <strong>BE</strong>-haviors we have a Crush on over here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 6!  BE HAPPY for others. Their success does not leave <em>less </em>room for yours.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: lots of room for all of us to be successful!</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 5! BE AUTHENTIC.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: The world is full of copies! Your originality and unique purpose are critical to the overall survival of social enterprise. Now, we don&#8217;t mean stick out in a crowd just to draw attention to yourself. I mean, if you need to be separate because it is part of who are, then do it!  Just do it in love</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 4!  BE A PRACTIONER. Practice your craft, practice your pitch, practice your operations, practice your speaking, practice, practice, practice.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: We can never practice enough.  I can easily take the bait and just did it last week, on why do I have to explain this again. Granted it probably was the 200<sup>th</sup> time I went over something, but it was the first time for that person I was talking to. Practice. Part of a good social enterprise is role modeling, and practice is a key to excellence. Just ask any Olympic athlete!</p>
<p>Natalie: Practice makes permanent</p>
<p>Romy: Sometimes we have to repeat ourselves a lot, do the basics</p>
<p>Natalie:  (say something here)</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 3! BE A LOVER OF OTHERS.  Be a lover of others. We don’t mean slobbering over someone in a romantic manner. In this context, we mean loving others when they aren’t acting right or loving you back.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: We people don’t always act right and, often, love must be a choice. Loving others involves patience, kindness, encouragement, listening, protecting, trusting, always hoping, <strong>always </strong>persevering with them. We are not asking anyone to be a saint; we are saying make the choice to BE A LOVER! We are watching social enterprises, and impact investors make the choice to love even under extreme conditions.</p>
<p>Natalie: We have had a lot of people say NOT nice things about us in public, people we don’t know, but we love on them, and they become our biggest supporters.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh yeah. We love people.</p>
<p>Natalie: Remember when those people sued you and were able to take the bank accounts?</p>
<p>Romy: Yes,  ha, it is hard to forget. We won that, but I remember sitting in meetings about people investing millions with 0.00 in my bank account. Ha</p>
<p>Natalie: But, we won that false claim and made friends with them.</p>
<p>Romy: Yup!  Ha, that was kind of about us, wasn’t it?</p>
<p>Natalie: Yup, ha ha, we’ll we are pretty great too! Just sayin’… Move on?</p>
<p>Romy: Let’s do it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Natalie: Number 2! BE AN INFLUENCER.</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Be such an influencer that people want to copy you and steal your stuff!  Be an influencer that takes full responsibility for what they write, record, post, and speak- both privately and publicly.</p>
<p>Natalie: I feel pretty good, people take our stuff all of the time…</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, I think we know of at least 40 times, no biggy, it is kind of an honor…ha ha</p>
<p>Romy: Be an influencer of good things. Just remember, the best influencers act in love.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, Natalie, we need a drumroll for our Number 1 Impact Crush Behavior…..</p>
<p>Natalie: (drumroll….)</p>
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<p><strong>Natalie Number 1! BE ANTHEMIC!  Be an Anthem. Let your story be an anthem!</strong></p>
<p><strong>If you are not certain what an anthem is, it refers to a song; a song that starts out a little bit slow and melodic and it finishes strong! Not only does it finish strong but it is usually at the top of the talent or skill level, the most it has to give, giving it all!</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Let me tell you this; it doesn&#8217;t matter how you start or mess it up along the way, while you are breathing, you have a chance to finish strong, giving it your all. Be Anthemic!</p>
<p>Thanks, everyone! That was fun and a little silly, but we are celebrating you over here!  Most of you listeners do all of those top six, and we love you!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, in the spirit of Anthems, we are going to close you out with the most popular closing song and artist of Season 2. This music is curated by Assemble Sound in Detroit and a great jam! Here is the song titled &#8216;The Anthem&#8217; by GRIZ featuring Mike Avery.</p>
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<p>Until next time, keep up all of the great stuff out there. Over here at Gingras Global and the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, we are <strong>boldly Impact Crushing on all of you!</strong></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/s3-impact-crushin-top-six-countdown-66]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1982</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/fa7cb970-ae40-483f-9b56-fec772d61d33/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 00:55:52 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/680f6329-3391-4546-98f3-6c07898e9d20/episode66-1.mp3" length="19260990" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>13:19</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Season 3: Top Six Impact Crushin’ BEhaviors   Welcome to Season Three of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise! This is Romy, and I am the host of today’s episode that we are calling ‘Impact Crush!’  We are doing a Top 6 countdown on behaviors we are crushin’ on. And, at the end, we are going…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Henry Le of Imagtor in Vietnam  #65</title><itunes:title>S2: Henry Le of Imagtor in Vietnam  #65</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Henry Le  of Imagtor in Hanoi, Vietnam</h2>
<p>Romy interviews Henry Le, co-founder of Imagtor, a professional photo editing service in Vietnam that is employing people with disabilities.  At the end of the episode, listen for another great new song by Detroit artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee!</p>
<div id="attachment_1882" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/12273702_10204713929208227_5009448597382392160_o.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-1882" class="wp-caption-text">Imagtor Staff in Vietnam</p></div>
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<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Welcome and thanks for tuning in. This is Romy, and I will be your host for another great episode here at Bonfires. You will meet the courageous Henry Le and hear about Imagtor in Vietnam. And, of course, we have a talented Detroit artist. Grace Elizabeth Lee joins us for the second time with her song, Like a Bird so stay tuned until the end!</p>
<p>Before we meet Henry, let's check out what Jentzen came up with for this episode's fun fuel.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Photography is a word derived from the Greek words photos (light) and graphien (to draw).    In 1827 Joseph Niepce created the first photographic image with a camera obscure.     However, Niepce’s photography required 8 hours of sunlight to make and the image would soon fade after appearing.</p>
<p>In 1879 the dry plate was invented and making it possible for handheld cameras to be made.</p>
<p>In 1889 George Eastman created the flexible film roll with made mass producing box cameras a reality.</p>
<p>In 1940 color film was created for the mass producing box cameras.</p>
<p>Over the years, many additions were made to the camera, such as better lenses, the flashlight bulb, and flash powder. Developing into the cameras we see today.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this episode! Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Thank you, Jentzen. Photography, at least as we know it today, isn't very old. Interesting. Even though photography has become easy for all of us to capture, it doesn't always mean that the photos are good. That is why we sometimes need some professional help from teams like Henry's in Vietnam. Let's listen in to my conversation as I am learning about Henry and his company, Imagtor.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
I am a co-founder of Imagtor it is a new social enterprise from Vietnam which just launched last March. After three month pilot, we actually started in business three months ago. We are providing professional photography editing service to international customers, especially to customers from the United States and Australia. We focus on editing the photography of real estate, portrait grading, fashion and product photography. We are a BBO outsourcing company, so what makes us different from other BBO companies, especially ones from India, is that at Imagtor 80% of our staff, currently we have 20 are with disabilities, so at Imagtor we don't call them employees, but we call them partners. We also have a social mission we use our positive profit which we can say 30% go to the development and activities of commonization for our people with disabilities in Vietnam. Hopefully, we can duplicate with this model to the other countries in the future.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow, that's a lot and let me repeat that for our listeners. It's...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Henry Le  of Imagtor in Hanoi, Vietnam</h2>
<p>Romy interviews Henry Le, co-founder of Imagtor, a professional photo editing service in Vietnam that is employing people with disabilities.  At the end of the episode, listen for another great new song by Detroit artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee!</p>
<div id="attachment_1882" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/12273702_10204713929208227_5009448597382392160_o.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-1882" class="wp-caption-text">Imagtor Staff in Vietnam</p></div>
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<p>Introduction</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Welcome and thanks for tuning in. This is Romy, and I will be your host for another great episode here at Bonfires. You will meet the courageous Henry Le and hear about Imagtor in Vietnam. And, of course, we have a talented Detroit artist. Grace Elizabeth Lee joins us for the second time with her song, Like a Bird so stay tuned until the end!</p>
<p>Before we meet Henry, let's check out what Jentzen came up with for this episode's fun fuel.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Photography is a word derived from the Greek words photos (light) and graphien (to draw).    In 1827 Joseph Niepce created the first photographic image with a camera obscure.     However, Niepce’s photography required 8 hours of sunlight to make and the image would soon fade after appearing.</p>
<p>In 1879 the dry plate was invented and making it possible for handheld cameras to be made.</p>
<p>In 1889 George Eastman created the flexible film roll with made mass producing box cameras a reality.</p>
<p>In 1940 color film was created for the mass producing box cameras.</p>
<p>Over the years, many additions were made to the camera, such as better lenses, the flashlight bulb, and flash powder. Developing into the cameras we see today.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this episode! Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>Thank you, Jentzen. Photography, at least as we know it today, isn't very old. Interesting. Even though photography has become easy for all of us to capture, it doesn't always mean that the photos are good. That is why we sometimes need some professional help from teams like Henry's in Vietnam. Let's listen in to my conversation as I am learning about Henry and his company, Imagtor.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
I am a co-founder of Imagtor it is a new social enterprise from Vietnam which just launched last March. After three month pilot, we actually started in business three months ago. We are providing professional photography editing service to international customers, especially to customers from the United States and Australia. We focus on editing the photography of real estate, portrait grading, fashion and product photography. We are a BBO outsourcing company, so what makes us different from other BBO companies, especially ones from India, is that at Imagtor 80% of our staff, currently we have 20 are with disabilities, so at Imagtor we don't call them employees, but we call them partners. We also have a social mission we use our positive profit which we can say 30% go to the development and activities of commonization for our people with disabilities in Vietnam. Hopefully, we can duplicate with this model to the other countries in the future.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow, that's a lot and let me repeat that for our listeners. It's professional photo editing and some of the terminology BBO that would be a business to business, or business outsourcing, is more what that stands for right?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
It is business outsourcing's, yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
So you're doing professional photo editing, and we call it business outsourcing. Most of your staff, 80% of your employees is with physical or some disability, and you're giving away 30% of your real profits to other organizations that help with disabilities in Vietnam. That's amazing.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
That is correct, thank you.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Gosh, so you're newly open, how did you come up with the idea for photo editing?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Well first of all Vietnam like according to a statistic, so in Vietnam, we have about more than 10 million people with different type of disabilities. The majority of them are without proper education and jobs, which leave them into a poverty and different type of problem. There also many organizations in Vietnam who are supporting people with disabilities, but again the majority of the organizations are not quite effective supporting the people with disabilities in the community. Due to different reasons and finance is one of the biggest problems for the organizations to sustain, to be sustainable and to be scalable. From this point of view a group of former staff from a local NGO and some social entrepreneurs including me.<br />
We have decided to open a new social business which provides photo editing service. This service is proved to be suitable and fits the best to the people with disabilities, abilities, and this year had we decided that it was the right time to start this business. By people with disabilities, and for people with disabilities and with a sustainable business model. I think it's our story, yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's powerful, sometimes it's scary to be one of the first ones to do it, but you inspire others.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Thank you yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
What is it like for social enterprise in Vietnam? Some countries we know are very friendly to social enterprises. For some countries, it's a brand new concept. What is it like in Vietnam right now?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
So social enterprise actually is quite a new terminology for Vietnamese people, and thanks to British Council and also embassies of the America have brought this terminology to Vietnam. Make it popular among business with a social mindset, but we still have a long way to go until an effective and workable legislation for social enterprise in Vietnam. At the moment there are hundreds of social enterprises in Vietnam but only from the last time I check, only two has registered for social enterprise entity.<br />
Yeah, so we actually have a long way to go, long way to go until we have a proper law to support social enterprise in Vietnam. Again also the ecosystem is not ... Although have we received a lot of support from international organizations, the ecosystem for social enterprise in Vietnam stay. It's not a very well viewed so good that a lot of people we are building together, we are working together to believe. To see in the near future that it could be a better eco system for social enterprises in Vietnam, so I think it's a good news actually.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yes, it reminds me some of the most successful places just kind of start, they don't wait for the government or that to start it. They just kind of start it and then once there's a positive effect from it. I mean and quite frankly it didn't start that way here in the US either, there was many businesses doing it, but we didn't call it social enterprise then. They were just doing some good things, hiring some people, or giving some of their profits, but nobody called it that. Then when people recognized a pattern, oh this is just a different kind of business.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yes, I agree with you.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Sometimes we don't have to wait for approval, as long as we're not doing something that is against the law or illegal, we're good. You can just do it a different way.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yes, I agree that we cannot quit, we have the action; you cannot quit. It's really [late 00:09:38] to be, yeah, wait for something happen yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Action first and something good will follow, I always believe this.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
The sign of a leader I say, take action first and see what happens. Don't be afraid.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yeah, exactly, yes actually.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, well very good. What are the big plans for your company?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
The good news is we had just secured a small fund like $40,000 from a Korean fund, and also we have just signed a contract with a big provider. I think for next year we're going to be something very different happening to us in a positive way.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
You already have quite a few employees. How many employees do you have right now?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Right now we have 20 employees and staffs, but we plan to double our employees next year. January and February we have to be that big at the time.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Well, that's incredible. How would the listeners reach you? Would mind giving us your website or any social media.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yes, you can reach us at www.imagtor.com, or our social media, yes we have social media presence of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, even on YouTube yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yes, I know there's a little video on your website that I watched.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yes, thank you.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
It's really good; you get a feel for it. Then tell me about the customers, what's the process of a customer signing up for you from the United States if they wanted some professional photo editing. What would their first step be?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
For United States market we look for the professional photographer in every state and for that, so the majority of our customers from the America's are real estate photographers. They shoot photo's at day, and they send the raw picture, to import to us in the evening and then we process the orders. Then deliver it to them, and the next morning when they wake up, they already have a down folder waiting for them to show to their customers. It's the process here.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
It's very convenient for this type of work that you're exactly, almost 12 hours ahead of us, in the US when it's our evening; it's your daytime, so that's very convenient for quick photo editing.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yeah, less than 12 hours.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Real estate, wedding, things that you want, really nice pictures on catalogs that type of thing right?</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Well, we'll say goodbye, for now, we'll make sure to put all your links in the podcast. Henry, we just wish you the best, and it's so exciting to hear what you're doing, and we'll check back with you in the future.</p>
<p>Henry:<br />
Thank you very much, Romy, and please keep in touch.</p>
<p>Closing Remarks</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
A big thanks to Henry. Henry, we want to encourage you to keep going and get the word out about your business. If you are someone who could use the photo-editing services or know someone you could refer, please do so. We are a social enterprise family around here connected all around the globe. Let's keep sharing the love and helping each other.</p>
<p>Speaking of sharing the love, I am happy to leave you with the sweet sounds of Grace Elizabeth Lee. She joins us for the second time with her song, Like A Bird.</p>
<p>Until next time, keep your bonfires of social enterprise burning everyone!</p>
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<div id="attachment_1868" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/28279643044_c250991b8b_o-1.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-1868" class="wp-caption-text">LIFE:Remodeled 2016</p></div>
<p>Romy interviews Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit &#8211; incredible passion, boldness, humility, and steadfastness all rolled into one mission. Hear about the incredible neighborhood transformations. Also meet Grace Elizabeth Lee as the featured artist at the end of the episode and her new song &#8216;Darling.&#8217;</p>
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<p><strong> </strong></p>
<h4>Intro to Life Remodeled of Detroit</h4>
<p>Romy: Hello, everyone, this is Romy, and we are here with another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have a very special artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee, at the end of this episode and an incredibly inspiring interview with Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit. This guy and his team are pulling off miraculous transformation in the neighborhoods.  Before we tune into the interview, let&#8217;s find out what Jentzen has prepared for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
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<p>Romy: Hello, everyone, this is Romy, and we are here with another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have a very special artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee, at the end of this episode and an incredibly inspiring interview with Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit. This guy and his team are pulling off miraculous transformation in the neighborhoods.  Before we tune into the interview, let's find out what Jentzen has prepared for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel by Jentzen</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Romy:  Thanks, Jentzen!  It is funny how we can adapt words over time. I am glad the word tenderloin is mostly used for steaks these days. Okay, moving on to my interview with Chris Lambert.  I have been reflecting on my interview with him and, while there were a lot of pieces that inspired me, I could not help but notice the combination of a boldness with a humbleness at the same time. Bold and humble, an incredible combination. I felt the wisdom and peace of a seasoned leader and the courage of a warrior willing to stand in protection of others.  As you listen in to my interview with Chris, I am certain you will be inspired by his work in the neighborhoods, one block at a time.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Romy: All right, so Chris, what is Life Remodeled?</p>
<p>Chris: Life Remodeled is a Detroit-based non-profit, and our mission is we remodel lives one neighborhood at a time, and the way we do that is every year we choose a different neighborhood in Detroit and we invest about 5 million dollars in cash, labor, and materials and that's all based off of what are the community's needs, and what is the community's vision? We come alongside the community to achieve their vision and there's three main physical things that we do. Number one, we remodel a community asset, usually a high school. The second thing we do is we repair owner-occupied homes and thirdly, we cleanup 300 city blocks in six days with 10,000 people.</p>
<p>Romy: How did you land on those three?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, that all comes back to, again, the community's vision. Every community has an asset that needs improvement and that asset, when it's improved, makes a huge impact on the life of the community and in every community we work in Detroit, there's a lot of homeowners who have needs they haven't...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><strong>Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit</strong></h2>
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<p>Romy interviews Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit &#8211; incredible passion, boldness, humility, and steadfastness all rolled into one mission. Hear about the incredible neighborhood transformations. Also meet Grace Elizabeth Lee as the featured artist at the end of the episode and her new song &#8216;Darling.&#8217;</p>
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<p><strong> </strong></p>
<h4>Intro to Life Remodeled of Detroit</h4>
<p>Romy: Hello, everyone, this is Romy, and we are here with another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have a very special artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee, at the end of this episode and an incredibly inspiring interview with Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit. This guy and his team are pulling off miraculous transformation in the neighborhoods.  Before we tune into the interview, let&#8217;s find out what Jentzen has prepared for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
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<p>Intro to Life Remodeled of Detroit</p>
<p>Romy: Hello, everyone, this is Romy, and we are here with another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have a very special artist, Grace Elizabeth Lee, at the end of this episode and an incredibly inspiring interview with Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit. This guy and his team are pulling off miraculous transformation in the neighborhoods.  Before we tune into the interview, let's find out what Jentzen has prepared for our Fun Fuel today.</p>
<p>Fun Fuel by Jentzen</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Romy:  Thanks, Jentzen!  It is funny how we can adapt words over time. I am glad the word tenderloin is mostly used for steaks these days. Okay, moving on to my interview with Chris Lambert.  I have been reflecting on my interview with him and, while there were a lot of pieces that inspired me, I could not help but notice the combination of a boldness with a humbleness at the same time. Bold and humble, an incredible combination. I felt the wisdom and peace of a seasoned leader and the courage of a warrior willing to stand in protection of others.  As you listen in to my interview with Chris, I am certain you will be inspired by his work in the neighborhoods, one block at a time.</p>
<p>Main Interview</p>
<p>Romy: All right, so Chris, what is Life Remodeled?</p>
<p>Chris: Life Remodeled is a Detroit-based non-profit, and our mission is we remodel lives one neighborhood at a time, and the way we do that is every year we choose a different neighborhood in Detroit and we invest about 5 million dollars in cash, labor, and materials and that's all based off of what are the community's needs, and what is the community's vision? We come alongside the community to achieve their vision and there's three main physical things that we do. Number one, we remodel a community asset, usually a high school. The second thing we do is we repair owner-occupied homes and thirdly, we cleanup 300 city blocks in six days with 10,000 people.</p>
<p>Romy: How did you land on those three?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, that all comes back to, again, the community's vision. Every community has an asset that needs improvement and that asset, when it's improved, makes a huge impact on the life of the community and in every community we work in Detroit, there's a lot of homeowners who have needs they haven't yet been able to meet for renovations, and then blight is one of the most significant problems in Detroit because blight is a magnet for criminal activity, so for instance, there are over 60,000 abandoned houses in the city of Detroit and those abandoned houses are more than just eyesores, but those are actually magnets for prostitution, human trafficking, and drug use, and there are real stories of children who have actually been taken on their way to school and bad things have happened in these homes.</p>
<p>Then, of course, the tall weeds and the illegal dumping create a line of sight issues, so you don't know what's around the corner, you feel unsafe, and you literally can be unsafe. We tackle issues that are common and agreed upon by the community, but of course, it's unique to each community's specific needs.</p>
<p>Romy: How did this start? Because I know sometimes big things are inspired by one or two small things, right?</p>
<p>Chris:  Let me start with my personal mission in life. I want to be this Jewish construction worker who lived about 2000 years ago, and he was brutally murdered and then came back to life, and in my opinion, he's alive and well and doing great things. At the time of starting Life Remodeled, I actually was the pastor of a church that my wife and I had started and I watched this television show that I used to cry every time I watched called, "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," and even though I cried when I watched it, I loved the show. I came to learn that anywhere between 17 to 25% of families were losing their homes through that show within the first two to five years.</p>
<p>The original concept for Life Remodeled was really in reaction to that show and we said, "Let's create something more holistic" and the original strategy was build a house in six days and give it away to a low income family for free, but also take them through financial training, set them up with a financial advisor, set them up with a clinical psychologist who can help them process family dynamics, offer spiritual guidance which they could accept or reject, and then the big differentiator was we wanted to invest in the surrounding neighborhood instead of just one home. All of that started with an idea in April of 2010. One year later, we completed a project with everything that I just mentioned and then it just blew up from there.</p>
<p>Romy: How did you mobilize that into action in one year?</p>
<p>Chris: Well, there's a few different ways to look at that, but let me start with the role that the church has played, and before I say that, I want to make sure I articulate, Life Remodeled is not a religious organization. We have actually established ourselves in a way that we are for everybody, right? Religious, non-religious, pro-life, pro-choice, democrat, republican, because we really want to bring everybody together. Everybody has something to offer, and everybody can contribute to the future of Detroit in our region and that being said, we partner with businesses, churches, all kinds of organizations and really the churches have been the hub for the overwhelming majority of our partnerships and our relationships.</p>
<p>Because what's happened is I've been able to speak at a number of churches, and I've talked about Life Remodeled in the context of also preaching from the Bible, and light bulbs have come on for people because for all these years they've been sitting in church service, they've never been able to invite their company to participate in something with the church because of political reasons, but they realized, "Wow, I can get my company involved in this thing," and so they would leave the service, they would talk to someone in their company, whether they were a mid-level manager or an executive and then all of a sudden we'd get a phone call, and another company would join on board, but it's very much been word of mouth, relationships, giving people a great experience.</p>
<p>One of the way we say that as a core value is it's all about people over projects. Our projects are exceptionally important, but people are priceless. People love the mission, but they love to be loved even more, and that really spreads very quickly.</p>
<p>Romy: So, you view, part of your, I'd say, beneficiary is not just the people involved in the project, but the volunteers and partners?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, so our mission is remodeling lives one neighborhood at a time, not remodeling Detroit. Detroit is where our focus is in terms of projects, and there's no question about it, the children, the students, the residents of Detroit mean everything to us, to me personally, but the donor in Northville or the business in Rochester Hills needs life transformation just as much as any student in Detroit or any parent.</p>
<p>Romy: I've found that to be true so much since we interface so much with investors, other supporters in the social enterprises. I find the ones that I spend a lot of the conversation with are the funders or those coming to serve. Those tend to have the most transformation in the process of helping another.</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, it's an amazing thing, and that really changes philanthropy from being a one-way transaction to really an experience where all of us have something to learn and areas to grow in, and certainly you're very familiar with the divide between city and suburb that is still very real to this day. Much of what we do is about breaking down those invisible walls and the only way you can really do that is just to get people to know each other, and the work is the common value that people believe in and then when they work together, city and suburb, all of a sudden relationships are born.</p>
<p>Romy: I feel like they're looking at a project instead of each other sometimes.</p>
<p>Chris: They are, but the project then brings them to start to look at one another, so it's a great start to a beautiful relationship.</p>
<p>Romy: Going back, did you have construction experience or experience in any of the three that you talk about?</p>
<p>Chris: Let's put it this way, Romy. You do not want me working on your house. I worked construction for one summer in my college years, and my gift is I'm a connector. I can cast vision, and I know to stay in my lane, so I love inviting contractors who know how to do what they do, and they do it with joy.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. They like serving in their specialty, but one thing I've noticed about you, and we haven't talked about this, is the people who go to serve with you feel protected because they feel like you're going to take the time to get to know what their needs are and how they serve best.</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah. We say that we strive to be both organized and organic. The organized part is that our role is to make it, so the projects are plug and play for whatever a business's talents are that they're able to do what they do without having to add multiple layers to get to that. That way, they're able to really thrive at what they do best, and then they stay engaged and then the organic side is the relationship that develops in the process.</p>
<p>Romy: Now, let's talk about ... We talk about what happened in that first year, but what's been some of the accomplishments so far? I'm going to direct people to your website, but what's been some of the accomplishments that have surprised you that you've been able to pull off with all of these people?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, first I'll talk about numbers because numbers just seems to blow people away and it blows me away when I think about it but over the last three years, we've completed three 5 million dollar projects each year, and each of them had over 10,000 volunteers in a week that we cleaned up 300 city blocks in each of these three Detroit neighborhoods. We've renovated schools, built a park, built football fields, and repaired dozens and dozens and dozens of homes, and that has made a big impact on safety. In one neighborhood, in particular, we measured crime a year following the project, and it dropped in 10 out of 11 categories, including a 47% reduction in homicides. School enrollment has gone up, academics have seen improvement, athletics have improved, and those are great numbers, but nothing is more impressive to me than the life transformation that we've seen take place.</p>
<p>Just one brief story which you can actually see if you go to our website, there's a whole movie made about Osborn and the main character in the film, her name is Pandora, and this is a documentary, so it's all live. We didn't know how it was going to turn out, but I'll give the movie away. I mean, Pandora, the first time we meet her she couldn't be any more against Life Remodeled than her very first interaction with us. She is a resident of Osborn who is the neighborhood we worked in in 2015. She had lost her son who was murdered just two years before us meeting her, and she was bitter, angry, depressed, and she looked at Life Remodeled as just some group was going to come in and do a bunch of talks, and not really do anything.</p>
<p>Fast forward over a series of months; her life is transformed radically to where she becomes the number one advocate in the community. She starts inviting her friends, her family, her neighbors, and people come because when they see Pandora, they see a totally different Pandora than who they've known for the last two years, and they want to find out what in the world has happened to her. What happened to her is relationships, because she got to know people who genuinely loved her just the way that she was, and were patient with her, and worked her through a series of processes that was all about just loving her and helping her get to a better place in life and she's been able to acquire a job, she's been able to raise her daughter now at a much higher level, and she's an inspiration to everyone who comes to know her. That's really what it's all about.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh, my gosh. I can tell there's probably lots of stories that have a similar thread, haven't there?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah. There are endless stories and it's interesting that the more time goes by, I learn their stories that I didn't even know about, because when 10,000 people are in one place, and they're getting to know each other, their just endless possibilities and that's the joy, is hearing those stories and meeting the people whose lives are impacted.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, there's a ripple effect when you change someone's life. It's hard almost to quantify all the subtle things that happen. Everybody's trying to measure social impact, I know today, I know that's a pain point for people, but sometimes you just can't measure the transformation of a human heart, and when you're helping people have hope. Hope, to me, is one of those things that's a game changer. Putting people's eyes on hope and that love, it overcomes it all, right?</p>
<p>Chris: Mm-hmm (affirmative).</p>
<p>Romy: What's next in line now? I mean, there's so many things I want to ask you right now, but let me stay focused. What's next in line for you? What's coming in this new year for you?</p>
<p>Chris: Yep. Next year is Central High School, and the neighborhood surrounding Central. Central is the very first high school in Detroit. Central High School is also the location where just South of Central, the 1967 civil unrest began in that neighborhood. Next year is the 50th year anniversary of that historic moment which is an amazing opportunity to celebrate real progress. Also, Central is where the Nation of Islam started; it's also where the Black Panthers have significant roots. The high school has the largest number of Jewish alumni of any school in Detroit, so you have all of this rich history and then you've got the fact that Central is located close to Midtown, so as that development moves past Downtown and Midtown, it's in a really great position for future sustainability.</p>
<p>The vision there, this came from the leadership at the school and Detroit Public Schools, is to build a startup business incubator. Think of TechTown in a neighborhood which doesn't yet exist, not until next summer, anyway. This startup, of course, will be a place where entrepreneurs of every sector, whether it's food or technology or healthcare or you name it will have a place where they can grow and develop and collaborate. They can get their free legal, their free accounting, but the unique factor will be that they'll be located in an environment with high school students where they'll have the opportunity to teach in the classroom or to apprentice students, and even we're talking with Detroit Public Schools about integrating their curriculum, the student's curriculum, with real-world ventures.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow.</p>
<p>Chris: Instead of just learning math, they'll learn finance from a specific example of one of the entrepreneurs and what they're going through.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow. You've been working on this for a little bit, right, with these thought leaders? How did you land on entrepreneurship as part of this ecosystem?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, because it's the same thing we do in every community. We seek to discover what is the vision of the leaders who are within the community, and this specific vision came from the principal of Central High School, and immediately I thought it was a phenomenal idea, and the more that we spoke with Detroit Public Schools Community District, and other leaders and community leaders, just the momentum really has grown, but for me, there was a big unknown. Would entrepreneurs want to take office space in a neighborhood when they can go to TechTown or Ponyride or some other great locations? As I've communicated this, recently to several entrepreneurs, their ears are pricking up, their eyes are getting wider, and they see the potential because it's a unique story.</p>
<p>We all know about the great development Downtown and Midtown, but we all know how much the neighborhoods need this development, and the opportunity to work with students is developing the future, the workforce of our country. It's pretty amazing, and I'm excited to see it grow.</p>
<p>Romy: Maybe for some of our listeners who don't know, Chris would you talk about the gaps in the neighborhoods? When we say Midtown and Downtown to some of our listeners outside of our area, those are the main areas that have gone under redevelopment, but when we say neighborhoods in Detroit, usually we're talking about places, right Chris, that don't have access to transportation? They're almost set aside; there's almost isolation there. Could you speak to that a little bit for our listeners?</p>
<p>Chris: Yeah, let me put it like this. Detroit is a city that's about 140 square miles, and in the 1980s, we had a population of 1.8 million people. Right now, we're down to about 600,000. You can just envision what that depopulation has done to vacant land, properties that are sitting abandoned, and the neighborhoods are where the majority of people actually live. Not only do you see abandoned houses, but you see abandoned businesses, and you see unfortunately abandoned schools. We've closed down over 50% of our schools in the last few years, and so goes a school, so goes a neighborhood, and so goes the business community, and it's this cycle that if you drive through many of]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-chris-lambert-life-remodeled-64]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1867</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/22ac0bc6-57b7-4be6-aeef-7726c060f0b5/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2016 13:08:25 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ce3809a3-d0f3-4035-999d-b33dd39ba4da/chris-lambertmixdown.mp3" length="44991665" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>31:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Chris Lambert of Life Remodeled in Detroit - incredible passion, boldness, humility, and steadfastness all rolled into one mission. Hear about the incredible neighborhood transformations. Also meet Grace Elizabeth Lee as the featured artist at the end of the episode and her new song &apos;Darling.&apos;</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Ivan Gonzalez in Humboldt Park, Chicago #63</title><itunes:title>S2: Ivan Gonzalez in Humboldt Park, Chicago #63</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2><strong>Ivan Gonzalez of Humboldt Park, Chicago &#8211; Social Enterprise Coach, Mentor, and Cross-Sector Facilitator</strong></h2>
<p>Romy interviews Ivan and learns about how his faith anchors and propels him to engage sectors and cultures for the common good.  Great song at the end by Chicago artist, Aaron Eddy!</p>
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<h4>Introduction</h4>
<p>Thanks for tuning in the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and we hve something different for you on this episode. You will meet Ivan Gonzalez and you will learn about his specialty, cross-sector collaboration. Ivan has a business called Coach for Social Enterprise. He obviously coaches, convenes, and patiently mentors people individually and in large groups around social enterprise and impact investing in communities. I think you will understand why he is so successful locally and nationally when you listen to how open and heartfelt he is about his faith.</p>
<p>This is our first guest that has been so open about their faith and I really began to see the &#8216;why&#8217; behind everything Ivan does. Let&#8217;s listen in to my interview with Ivan.</p>
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<p>Romy:;Thanks for tuning in the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and we hve something different for you on this episode. You will meet Ivan Gonzalez and you will learn about his speciality, cross-sector collaboration. Ivan has a business called Coach for Social Enterprise. He obviously coaches, convenes, and patiently mentors people individually and in large groups around social enterprise and impact investing in communities. I think you will understand why he is so successful locally and nationally when you listen to how open and heartfelt he is about his faith.</p>
<p>This is our first guest htat has been so open about their faith and I really began to see the 'why' behind everything Ivan does. Let's listen in to my interview with Ivan.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. Well, welcome, Ivan, to The Bonfires of Social Enterprise!</p>
<p>Ivan:    Thanks! It's really exciting to be finally on the podcast.</p>
<p>Romy:    I know, thank you. You've been such a supporter. Let's talk about where you're calling in from. This is a call in, or I guess we're Skyping and you're in Chicago, right? What neighborhood are you in?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yes, I predominantly do most of the work that I do in the city and Humboldt Park, West Humboldt Park area.</p>
<p>Romy:    You and I met when we were supporting the social enterprise there in Chicago, right? Is that when we first met?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yeah, it was during the time of The Stewards Market, and our mutual friend, Sarah Wheeler, introduced us to, actually it was a friend of Sarah who introduces me to Rowan Richards. Then, Sarah introduced you to Rowan Richards, and we collaborated during that time.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah yeah, and it was a lot of fun, thoughtful meetings around King Lizzy and all that. That's been a real fond memory for me. Then, of course, I got to meet you, and the more I get to know you, Ivan, the more I want to hang out with you.</p>
<p>Ivan:    Well, that's mutual. I love all the things that you're helping investors, and specifically, social impact investors think about when it comes to investing and social enterprises. I'm excited about what we're going to talk about today.</p>
<p>Romy:    You're our first guest that has a very high-level, multifaceted experience. As you and I spoke about, most of our guests to date have either been running an enterprise or doing something very niche focused in the ecosystem. You've had 25 years of coaching and mentoring]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><strong>Ivan Gonzalez of Humboldt Park, Chicago &#8211; Social Enterprise Coach, Mentor, and Cross-Sector Facilitator</strong></h2>
<p>Romy interviews Ivan and learns about how his faith anchors and propels him to engage sectors and cultures for the common good.  Great song at the end by Chicago artist, Aaron Eddy!</p>
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<h4>Introduction</h4>
<p>Thanks for tuning in the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and we hve something different for you on this episode. You will meet Ivan Gonzalez and you will learn about his specialty, cross-sector collaboration. Ivan has a business called Coach for Social Enterprise. He obviously coaches, convenes, and patiently mentors people individually and in large groups around social enterprise and impact investing in communities. I think you will understand why he is so successful locally and nationally when you listen to how open and heartfelt he is about his faith.</p>
<p>This is our first guest that has been so open about their faith and I really began to see the &#8216;why&#8217; behind everything Ivan does. Let&#8217;s listen in to my interview with Ivan.</p>
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<p>Romy:;Thanks for tuning in the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and we hve something different for you on this episode. You will meet Ivan Gonzalez and you will learn about his speciality, cross-sector collaboration. Ivan has a business called Coach for Social Enterprise. He obviously coaches, convenes, and patiently mentors people individually and in large groups around social enterprise and impact investing in communities. I think you will understand why he is so successful locally and nationally when you listen to how open and heartfelt he is about his faith.</p>
<p>This is our first guest htat has been so open about their faith and I really began to see the 'why' behind everything Ivan does. Let's listen in to my interview with Ivan.</p>
<p>Romy:    Okay. Well, welcome, Ivan, to The Bonfires of Social Enterprise!</p>
<p>Ivan:    Thanks! It's really exciting to be finally on the podcast.</p>
<p>Romy:    I know, thank you. You've been such a supporter. Let's talk about where you're calling in from. This is a call in, or I guess we're Skyping and you're in Chicago, right? What neighborhood are you in?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yes, I predominantly do most of the work that I do in the city and Humboldt Park, West Humboldt Park area.</p>
<p>Romy:    You and I met when we were supporting the social enterprise there in Chicago, right? Is that when we first met?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yeah, it was during the time of The Stewards Market, and our mutual friend, Sarah Wheeler, introduced us to, actually it was a friend of Sarah who introduces me to Rowan Richards. Then, Sarah introduced you to Rowan Richards, and we collaborated during that time.</p>
<p>Romy:    Yeah yeah, and it was a lot of fun, thoughtful meetings around King Lizzy and all that. That's been a real fond memory for me. Then, of course, I got to meet you, and the more I get to know you, Ivan, the more I want to hang out with you.</p>
<p>Ivan:    Well, that's mutual. I love all the things that you're helping investors, and specifically, social impact investors think about when it comes to investing and social enterprises. I'm excited about what we're going to talk about today.</p>
<p>Romy:    You're our first guest that has a very high-level, multifaceted experience. As you and I spoke about, most of our guests to date have either been running an enterprise or doing something very niche focused in the ecosystem. You've had 25 years of coaching and mentoring all focused on social enterprise. Since you have primarily a coaching and mentoring-facilitator role, would you mind talking about your business for a minute? Coach for Social Enterprises?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Sure. About six years ago, I had realized I'd had all this experience with both for-profit, non-profit social enterprises. When I first started, the term social enterprise wasn't being used. It was more how do we create a sustainable either for-profit or non-profit business that not only is excited about making a profit, but also providing a great place for people to work? Where they feel like their skills are honored, where they feel like they're not solely treated as an employee but they're more looked upon as, even though they may not have an ownership stake in the non-profit or for profit, they are treated as if they were an owner, so their opinions are highly respected, highly encouraged to come in and share what their perspective is on their business model.</p>
<p>As I stated, when I was early on, 25 years ago, I realized that I had been launching, doing start-up stuff most of my life. I backed into helping to start this building materials distribution center in Chicago. What I didn't realize at the time was that I was sitting at the same table with business leaders and nonprofit leaders and church leaders in the city of Chicago to launch this building materials distribution center. We were doing a lot of research whether around the business model. We were trying to figure out whether we would launch it as an LLC or a nonprofit. We were just going through the arduous task of trying to figure out, "What is it we're trying to accomplish? What's the incorporation status that we should use to accomplish our mission, vision, and values?" We landed on continue to be a nonprofit. We landed on incorporating this nonprofit within a larger nonprofit system. What I realized after a while, after about 5 or 6 years, is that what we had started was a social enterprise.</p>
<p>I learned a lot about how fast business people want to go, how much nonprofits love committees and meetings and how much business people really don't like committees and meetings and how much business folks think very quickly, are willing to throw money at a problem and try to solve it within a 24-hour period versus nonprofit leaders who are more cautious. They're hyper-aware of anything that might put their 501(c)(3) and their nonprofit status at risk when it comes to iterating a business idea. I learned, on the job in the midst of great relationships and deep friendships with both nonprofit, church and business leaders, the nuances of trying to do this stuff from a cross-sector perspective. I realized I'd gained a lot of experience not only with that organization but with multiple organizations and people who came to me asking me for advice on how to do this thing whether it was for-profit or nonprofit. I had enough experience. I felt like I really learned a lot and I've been able to connect with all kinds of people.</p>
<p>In addition to those three categories, I was able also to connect with angel investors and some VCs and be in conversations with what it is they're looking for as investment opportunities. I find myself today with Coach for Social Enterprises looking for those early adopting angel and venture capitalists who are saying, "Yeah, I can make a ton of money. In fact, I've already made a ton of money, but I'm beginning to realize that it's just about making a lot of money. I want to do good with my money too." They're beginning to look at a socially impactful business as an opportunity to do good and to do well. I'm excited about the fact that that group of people is constantly growing throughout the last, I would say the last 5 or 6 years I've seen a significant growth in that area. I'm excited to talk to you a little bit more about that when we get the chance.</p>
<p>Romy:    All right. Gosh, all of that experience and you use the term cross-sector. That can get frustrating for so many people. I know as I've watched you for these last several years when we work on projects together, your grace and your thoughtfulness and your gentleness when people can almost be hostile about because their fears are coming out. You and I have been in some of those conversations where things went a bit sideways, and your grace is just palpable in the room. I know you've anchored yourself in the Bible and some Scripture. We've talked about some of the Scripture that motivates you. I know you'd like to talk about some of the Scripture that anchors you and drives you.</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yeah. Let me create a context why Scripture is important to me. Early on in my educational career, I was a biochemistry major, and then I had this epiphany of the reality of Jesus. I switched majors, and I became a theology major, and I thought if I'm going to try to figure out what this Jesus dude is all about I need to really understand this thing that's called the Bible that most people seem to attribute to His influence. I spent a lot of time studying the Bible and trying to get a clear picture of who this guy, Jesus, is and how He's connected to everything that happens on the Earth and the universe.</p>
<p>As one of the books in the Bible, that's really fascinated me is the Book of Acts. It's after the Gospels, the first 4 Gospels which basically document Jesus's life on the Earth. Then, after He leaves, He basically tells His followers that even though He's gone physically, He's with them in spirit. The whole Book of Acts is Jesus's presence among the disciples in spirit. He continues to teach His disciples what this kingdom is that He represents. He calls them.</p>
<p>What this kingdom is that he represents. He calls himself the king. Thus he has a kingdom. There's a realm of influence and authority that he carries in that kingdom. That kingdom, according to what I've read, is both a kingdom in the spiritual realm in heaven and then also in the earthly realm and there are rules that govern the kingdom on the Earth.</p>
<p>I've been reading the Bible from the perspective of trying to discover the rules, trying to discover how the authority in the kingdom works, trying to discover the rules as it relates to the community of people who have decided to say, "I think this Jesus guy could be real, I am going to try to follow this Jesus guy, and I'm going to try to understand what it is that he teaches humanity about this kingdom."</p>
<p>More specifically in the book of Acts chapter 2 verse 42-47, it talks about how these Jesus followers were all hanging out together, and there were some people who were leaders that were called apostles during that time that was teaching. They had these teachings that they were offering to the community of believers. One of the specific teachings that they had was what a stewardship looked like amongst people who followed Jesus. It's really interesting that Acts 2:42-47 talks about that. It says that they all got together, verse 42, and they were breaking bread, and they were paying attention to the apostle's teaching, and they were praying together and then there were a lot of miracles that happened and signs that were performed by the apostles.</p>
<p>In verse 43 and verse 44 it says that "All the believers were together and had everything in common." That phrase, "had everything in common" really intrigued me. Then it says in verse 45 that, "They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need and every day they continued to meet in the temple courts and they broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts." Well, I'd be glad and sincere if I was a person who had a need and I was a Jesus follower, and I was in this community of believers, and some of them sold property and possessions and then gave to anyone who had a need. That'd mean that me, as a person in need, would have my need satisfied and I'm not just saying that any needy person can come into a group of believers and get their needs satisfied. I believe that this applies to people, everyone who's trying to follow Jesus.</p>
<p>That was real, really intriguing and as I've looked at the marketplace, I've always been interested in business and I've always been interested in how capitalism works and early on in my educational career I thought I was going to go work for American Express, their financial advisor services and become a wealth advisor. I've been intrigued how wealth advisors talk to their clients and the opportunities that they offer their clients as it relates to their investment opportunities.</p>
<p>As I've studied capitalism, pure capitalism really I think is a dying breed. I think that people are beginning to realize no matter how wealthy or how much income you have that it's not just about making more money. I think people are beginning to realize that I can also do good with the money that I make and they're beginning to ask the question, "How much is enough?" I think the people in Acts chapter 2 and Acts chapter 4 had already come to the realization that, "I have two houses, three houses, five pieces of property. I own part ownership in 14 national businesses. How much do I really need?" People are beginning to ask themselves the questions, just like they probably did in the time of the early church, that, "I don't need all this stuff and I realize that my brother or my sister are less well off than what I am and they need some things and I could steward my assets in such a way that could provide for the need of those brothers and sisters."</p>
<p>Again, what I have committed to doing, as a theologian and as a business person, I'm trying to integrate what the kingdom economy looks like with how we live out our lives here on the Earth because I believe that Jesus wants to establish his kingdom here on Earth. He's looking for people who want to follow him and who want to gather in his name to establish his kingdom. I'm pursuing that with every fiber of my being, with every prayer, with every conversation, with every meeting. Every time I go to a place, I'm pursuing it with that lens as my filter.</p>
<p>I know that was a long answer to your question, but it provided the context for it.</p>
<p>Romy:    Right, because I'd say that you exhibit that in everything that you agree to do every time you're asked to speak publicly, whether it's locally or out in California, even when we were pre-discussing it, you wanted to make sure that this anchor got in there, which, I love that. I feel, too often, we don't acknowledge what really anchors us on the why of doing what we do and how important it is.</p>
<p>I'd love to ask you a question about this because I know some of our listeners are faith-based listeners and some of our listeners might be doing some of this work out of just the goodness of our heart. Has this scriptural base for you been an attractor or has it been more difficult that you've approached things this way? Will you touch on that for our listeners?</p>
<p>Ivan:    Sure, sure. With people who don't have a special focus on faith and even atheists, it really doesn't matter; I look at this as the common good. The phrase that I would use, that I use in a context where there's not a lot of people of faith is that this is about the common good. Does everybody want safe streets? Does everybody want streetlights on their block? Does everybody access to clean water? Does everybody want a safe place to live? Does everybody want parks and access to good food and access to products that are meaningfully made and serve a legitimate purpose in their lives? Yes.</p>
<p>My conversation about not doing things from a purely capitalist, not making decisions from a purely capitalist lens, but saying there can be a way for me to make my decisions that have impact, not just on money but it has an impact on people. Whether it's the person picking from ... If you look at the total supply chain of any product that's produced in the world and you ask yourself the question, who's providing the raw material for this final good? Are they being treated justly and fairly? Are they being paid good wages? Can they live on those wages? All the way to the distribution channels, the manufacturer of that good, are they being paid well? Do they have a livable wage? Is the company externalizing anything? If so, how's that harming our environment or how's that harming the people that that externalization's occurred in?</p>
<p>I'm asking the tough questions all the way through the supply chain, and I think that, as a community of human beings, when we begin to ask those questions together we can begin to transform the fact that we can begin to have an impact on how many human beings are thriving. That we can actually see more and more human beings thriving as a result of us asking ourselves those tough questions. Then, business leaders saying, "I'm going to adjust my business model to honor more and more of the image of God in each human being along my supply chain."</p>
<p>Romy:    Well, that's powerful. It not only anchors you but it gives you a view of how to approach others and projects.</p>
<p>Ivan:    Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy:    Now, going back to the cross-sector, there's so many things I want to capture on this interview, but we might have to do a part 2 and a part 3 because this is just really good stuff. On the cross-sector piece, it's not just cross-sector of legal structures, but you have found a way to bridge gaps cross-culturally, in your city. I know even your church is multicultural and it's really coming boldly against what the world and the news are portraying of all the divides. You've traveled around the globe, so how do see today some of the exciting breakthroughs of this cross culture, cross-sector, whatever you want to ... I guess I'll generically call it cross-sector, but I feel like it's so much deeper. What are some of the things that you're noticing having breakthrough and what are some of the things that you're noticing that still really need patience and love on it to address it?</p>
<p>Ivan:    That's a deep question.</p>
<p>Romy:    Right.</p>
<p>Ivan:    Well, I think ...</p>
<p>Ivan:    I think my first, kind of, foundational pillar as it comes to meeting anybody, no matter what the color of their skin, the class that they represent, the place that they live, is that that person deserves the honor, deserves to be seen, deserves to be heard. It reminds me of; I don't know if I read this, or I heard this, but about Abraham Lincoln, he said, "I'm willing to talk to anybody." He was using that phrase in the context of talking to a man, a drunk, in the town where he was. He said, "I can learn from anyone and I can understand that each person is born into this world with a unique gift, a unique contribution that makes us more human." Every voice is important no matter what their experience is. I agree with that. My experience has been that that has been true.</p>
<p>There was a time in my life where I had a pretty traumatic experience with a young group of Asian brothers and sisters in California, and it predisposed me to be prejudice against Asian folks for a long time because their remarks to me were disparaging and hurtful and dismissive. That experience lodged into me and caused me to be prejudice and not to want to have any relationships with Asian folks. As a result of me being here, you mentioned the church context at River City Community Church and being part of a multi-ethnic community, I realize that that experience had caused this deep barrier, this big barrier, to go up in my life that prohibited me from interacting or for even wanting to interact with Asian folks. I remember talking about this in a public meeting that I recognized, all of a sudden, that it was because of that traumatic experience a long time ago that I had put up this barrier. I went through a process of forgiveness of myself,...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-ivan-gonzalez-in-humboldt-park-chicago]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1816</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ef00c37f-3714-400d-be68-31c4ebdc72f6/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 00:39:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7241726f-121a-4ece-b77d-9e4d9aea971c/ivangonzalezmixdown.mp3" length="52701749" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Ivan Gonzalez of Humboldt Park, Chicago - Social Enterprise Coach, Mentor, and Cross-Sector Facilitator&lt;br /&gt;
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Romy interviews Ivan and learns about how his faith anchors and propels him to engage sectors and cultures for the common good.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Playground Detroit with Paulina Petkoski #62</title><itunes:title>S2: Playground Detroit with Paulina Petkoski #62</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2><strong>Season 2: Playground Detroit with Paulina Petkoski</strong></h2>
<p>Romy interviews dynamo Paulina Petkowski, co-owner and co-founder of Playground Detroit!  Learn about the multi-faceted organization and the exciting empowerment for artists and creatives. What talent!</p>
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<h4>Intro</h4>
<p>Romy: Hello there, this is Romy and I am excited to share another episode with you. We have Paulina Petkoski on the show today talking about a really fun and hop organization called Playground Detroit. At the end of the episode one of our Detroit artists, Valley Hush, debuts a new song. You don&#8217;t want to miss it!</p>
<p>I would like to give a shout out to our listeners in the Washington DC and Virginia area. We appreciate you!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what Jentzen has for us for fun fuel for today.</p>
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<p>Romy: Hello there, this is Romy and I am excited to hsare another episode with you. We have Paulina Petkoski on the show today taling about a really fun and hop organization called Playground Detroit. At the end of the episode one of our Detroit artists, Valley Hush, debuts a new song. You don't want to miss it!</p>
<p>I would like to give a shout out to our listeners in the Washington DC and Virginia area. We appreciate you!</p>
<p>Let's see what Jentzen has for us for fun fuel for today.</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Hey this is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode. This week I will be sharing some fun facts about a playground!</p>
<p>The idea of the playground originated In Germany where the playground was a space to teach children how to play properly.</p>
<p>The first playground slide was invented in 1922 by Charles Wicksteed.</p>
<p>Research shows that children who are given the freedom to play how they want grow up to be happier and more well adjusted adults.</p>
<p>Playground also help children with their balance and motor skills as they play, social skills as they interact with other children, and self confidence when they swing and climb.</p>
<p>A playground is also a great source of fresh air and exercise for a child.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode. Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Excellent. I'd like to set the stage a little bit before we listen to my conversation. Detroit is busting with creative activity. Like any big city, you can almost find anything!  In the past, it has been somewhat difficult to locate everything. That's where Playground Detroit comes in!</p>
<p>Lets listen in now...</p>
<p>Paulina:  Playground Detroit is really a multi-faceted platform that serves as a creators catalyst for the city of Detroit and its creative entrepreneurs, artists, musicians, and cultural scene that's happening right now.</p>
<p>Romy:  Let's break that down a little bit more because you used some fresh terminology there. Multi-faceted, creative catalyst, let's go deeper on some of those elements.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
We have two sides of what we do, IRL and URL. The first part, IRL, is In Real Life, we work with people, and we produce events, we connect people to people, and we like to promote the creative economy. Promoting the arts and culture scene here through exhibits through really cool programming that includes film screening, Q & A panels, installations with other stores that are in the area. Anything that really allows people to connect with one another and experience art in a way that is really fun and unique.<br />
The other side of it is online. We have had an online magazine since 2011 that we started to really get out...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2><strong>Season 2: Playground Detroit with Paulina Petkoski</strong></h2>
<p>Romy interviews dynamo Paulina Petkowski, co-owner and co-founder of Playground Detroit!  Learn about the multi-faceted organization and the exciting empowerment for artists and creatives. What talent!</p>
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<h4>Intro</h4>
<p>Romy: Hello there, this is Romy and I am excited to share another episode with you. We have Paulina Petkoski on the show today talking about a really fun and hop organization called Playground Detroit. At the end of the episode one of our Detroit artists, Valley Hush, debuts a new song. You don&#8217;t want to miss it!</p>
<p>I would like to give a shout out to our listeners in the Washington DC and Virginia area. We appreciate you!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what Jentzen has for us for fun fuel for today.</p>
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<p>Romy: Hello there, this is Romy and I am excited to hsare another episode with you. We have Paulina Petkoski on the show today taling about a really fun and hop organization called Playground Detroit. At the end of the episode one of our Detroit artists, Valley Hush, debuts a new song. You don't want to miss it!</p>
<p>I would like to give a shout out to our listeners in the Washington DC and Virginia area. We appreciate you!</p>
<p>Let's see what Jentzen has for us for fun fuel for today.</p>
<p>Jentzen:</p>
<p>Hey this is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode. This week I will be sharing some fun facts about a playground!</p>
<p>The idea of the playground originated In Germany where the playground was a space to teach children how to play properly.</p>
<p>The first playground slide was invented in 1922 by Charles Wicksteed.</p>
<p>Research shows that children who are given the freedom to play how they want grow up to be happier and more well adjusted adults.</p>
<p>Playground also help children with their balance and motor skills as they play, social skills as they interact with other children, and self confidence when they swing and climb.</p>
<p>A playground is also a great source of fresh air and exercise for a child.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode. Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy: Excellent. I'd like to set the stage a little bit before we listen to my conversation. Detroit is busting with creative activity. Like any big city, you can almost find anything!  In the past, it has been somewhat difficult to locate everything. That's where Playground Detroit comes in!</p>
<p>Lets listen in now...</p>
<p>Paulina:  Playground Detroit is really a multi-faceted platform that serves as a creators catalyst for the city of Detroit and its creative entrepreneurs, artists, musicians, and cultural scene that's happening right now.</p>
<p>Romy:  Let's break that down a little bit more because you used some fresh terminology there. Multi-faceted, creative catalyst, let's go deeper on some of those elements.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
We have two sides of what we do, IRL and URL. The first part, IRL, is In Real Life, we work with people, and we produce events, we connect people to people, and we like to promote the creative economy. Promoting the arts and culture scene here through exhibits through really cool programming that includes film screening, Q & A panels, installations with other stores that are in the area. Anything that really allows people to connect with one another and experience art in a way that is really fun and unique.<br />
The other side of it is online. We have had an online magazine since 2011 that we started to really get out all of the fun, creative, news that's happening in this city that, at the time, wasn't being told in the mainstream media. Since we started the online magazine, we've also expanded the digital media platforms that we have to a really, amazingly, robust, social media following that is growing, basically every week. We have really great Instagram following and Facebook; we use Pinterest, Snapchat, YouTube, anything that really allows our audience to engage with the creative people that we support and promote.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
That's absorbing because there is always this gap that people who love the artists don't feel like they can get close enough to them sometimes, you provide both of these ways. I love what you just said, In Real Life, IRL, and URL. That's fantastic; I want to write that up somewhere.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
It's the easiest way to describe it because both sides are critical to supporting one another and that was all the intention when we started throwing events while living in New York to bring out talent there and showcase everyone there in order to get out the information about exhibition or a music showcase that we were doing. We had to be our own outlet, and that continued to be a part of how we function to this day.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let's talk more about you ... The genesis of  the idea while you were in New York. Was somebody connected to Detroit, how did you originally connect new York to Detroit?</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
I grew up in metro Detroit as did my business partner, Samantha Shefman and we were both living in New York, at the time post college for our professional careers. She worked as a jeweler and a gallerist, and I trained as a fashion designer, we were working in New York and what we found was that ... A lot of people would ask us what Detroit was like when we were introduced to them, and it was always with such interest but totally uninformed generalizations and stereotypes. To counteract that, we started the website, and we started doing events to connect our friends that were living it New York to the people that we still grew up with, in Detroit, who are doing really inspiring things that we thought should be exposed to.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
How did you decide to make the move?</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
I decided to return to Detroit in May 2014 after some issues in the fashion industry were brought to my attention. I felt like my efforts and my experience and my passion for Detroit and what's happening in the city right now were better put to use on the ground. I relocated back in late July of 2014 and then a year after working in Chelsea in the gallery district in Manhattan, Samantha my partner moved back here in 2015. We've been operating back from Detroit for the past two years.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
You've made amazing headway in just two years. I'm sure, to you, it's felt slow but looking for the outside, two years, that's extraordinary what you've done here already.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
Thank you, I really appreciate that; it's been a lot of hard work, but I've been dedicating the majority of my time to establishing the company, back in Detroit. The funny thing was, when I moved back here, a lot of people I knew because my previous connections, I've been traveling here back and forth the whole time I lived in New York for almost ten years.<br />
People around town they already knew the name recognition, there was already brand recognition, when we brought the company back to the city. Which was really interesting for me because, originally, more of the intentions was to inform a larger audience, whether that's global or people who lived in New York or LA about Detroit. It's actually turned out that we have a really amazing following based in the city and also in the surrounding areas, metro Detroit, Ann Arbor, Chicago, other places that I didn't think we would have such an impact on and it seems like we do.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
I think there's this surprise sometimes of how much there really is going on around here. It's hard to curate it all and organize it all. Which you're doing.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
Thank you, it's interesting because there is so much happening, and I think, sometimes, that's super overwhelming to someone who's either just moved here or is just starting to become curious about the scene, the art scene has been strong in Detroit for decades, and I think now it's starting to just get more recognition and things are becoming a little bit more mainstream a little less underground. But there is also potential for a new audience and how do we let them in and give them access to stuff that was more word of mouth or more within the very small, tight-knit, community that's actually based in Detroit?</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let's go there to the social mission; there's a broader social mission. Sometimes people dismiss the art and the creatives as not really adding to solving the social issues. Do you mind speaking into the social good that comes from what you're doing?</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
I think what people need to realize about artists and creative people is that there's actually a lot of value added to the community, as a whole, and also to the GDP, economically speaking. It's not just ... Even though we like to be fun and creative and entertaining in what we showcase, it's real that we're a little bit more serious about play, if you will. In that this idea of play is really a new form of work and when you try to look at some of the future trends that are based on the big economy and an anti-capitalist potential future. What is the future of work looks like and I think that the people that we work with are all very passionate about creating change and impact through their creative or artistic pursuits?<br />
Really, how does this creative work and these creative people, living in Detroit, add value to the city economically? How is that then portrayed to people who make policies, city officials, and then having that be advocated to be integrated into city planning and, especially, in education? I think that it's no secret that the Detroit public schools are in a crisis and the majority<br />
Paulina:<br />
Public schools are in a crisis and the majority of the time, one of the first things that tend to get cut in the budget are the arts program, and a lot of the work that we've done in the past is art supplies fundraisers for some of the artists that we work with who are actually also teachers part time, as well. It's really important to advocate for the arts in Michigan because we're competing not just nationally, but globally for other cities that are looking to attract and retain their talent, and we have to do that in Detroit and Michigan and southeastern Michigan because that's really the feature of where a lot of people who are going to college right now or are budding artists, they need that support. They need to see themselves as being in several parts of the economy here, not just tech or farming or automobile industries, as we've seen them already, but really saying that creativity and art and culture matter.<br />
How do people really end up understanding that in a real way, not just a why is the painting on a wall important? It's much deeper than that because art can impact people's quality of life and provide jobs. That's at the more macro level what we're saying.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
I think there's so much. That was action packed. We could probably spend about an hour on every one of those things. I think you do ... I want to draw attention to two specific things you just said there, though, and I'll do from back to front. Economic development, there is jobs in arts and culture. People dismiss that because they may view it at times as a luxury item, but there are definitely, it creates jobs as it creates economy. It brings people to the city. Just think about all the people that come to look at one of the types of things that we have in Detroit, which is the graffiti. That's just a small hint of an example, but I'd like to go back to one of the things you said in the beginning, and it's about having fun.<br />
One of the things that cracks me up about social enterprise and impact investing is while it's great to have these good intents social missions, sometimes the social entrepreneurs are walking around like sad sacks. I'm going to save the world here, but there just depressed and trying to make it all happen. It really isn't the intent of social enterprise, in general. The intent of social enterprise is to marry the best of doing something good socially with the best of having a business enterprise, so it stays self-sustainable and healthy and productive. It's not meant to be this burden that you decide to carry yourself.<br />
I love the fact, I just wanted to step on that for a minute, that place of fun and play. It's critical that we do that in our world.</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
It's really challenging because as a social entrepreneur myself, I'm faced with those challenges, and I do tend to take on this overwhelming amount of responsibility for the people around us that we work with and also the city as a whole. I think that the other community of social entrepreneurs that I am associated with all feel the same way. There is this intense feeling of what more can we do to help, so it does become a little bit overwhelming and sometimes potentially depressing because there's only so much that one person can do, but when you get back to the idea of enjoying what you do and making your work purposeful and keeping it fun, I think that that was the only way that there was able to be a counter-narrative to this depressing story of Detroit that's been touted in the media for decades now. How do you counteract that?<br />
I think that it's a lot of positive energy foremost, and then a lot of positive thinking and positive action. Let's fill the city with vibrancy and beautification and creative ways to reimagine what this city can be and how other cities that may be experiencing similar things of the industrialization and reorganization that's happening. Let's be something that they can look at and learn from as we've already experienced some of the worse that happened across the country to cities.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Definitely. Well said, well said. There's no question I think all of us who are social entrepreneurs, we've reached so far and emptied our bank accounts and all of our pockets and all of our time clocks way more than we want, but yet, I know, myself, I am like, "Wow, super stretched," but at the same time, I've never had more joy than I've ever had in my whole life. I've never been more in love with other people that are all doing the same thing. While it is so tough, at the same time, there is this, I love that word, counter-narrative, that I'm having great joy, and I think a lot of others are, too, and you, at Playground Detroit are part of what's facilitating that actually.<br />
It's helping not to be so heavy all the time.</p>
<p>Paulina: I agree.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let's go to the enterprise part of your business because our listeners are always super inquisitive about what are things that people are trying. You're a for-profit business, which is really interesting. I'm going to comment on that in a moment because typically at least in our southeast Michigan area, a lot of the arts and cultural organizations have been nonprofit. What are some of the revenue streams you're looking into or have been using?</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
I found that the nonprofit model for us as an organization didn't make the most sense because I think that things move very quickly. We like to respond to opportunities and partnerships and ideas as fast as possible, and I think sometimes you aren't able to move so quickly with a nonprofit. I also don't always think that the arts should have this charity mentality, which is a little bit more like, "Oh, you know, poor us, help us, save us," which is not all nonprofit messaging, but I think for the most part that there are ways for artists to work professionally and part of what our revenue stream is is being an agent or an agency for a freelance artist and creative entrepreneurs so we help facilitate these people who are highly skilled, often times educated at incredible institutions, like eCollege for Creative Studies or a lot of other places that people have studied at, and place them with job opportunities because they are working professionals even though I think most people would find painting a giant building more enjoyable than it is work.<br />
It definitely takes a certain skill set to be able to achieve something of that skill. Private commissions and corporate commissions for public artwork or lobby installations or restaurant, making other businesses integrate art into their spaces is a part of what we do. The other part is our exhibitions and events. We've done solo exhibits and featured artists programming. We also have online sales for artwork. We have an eCommerce market on our website. We sell art and prints and Playground merchandise. We're looking to expand what we offer through unique collaborations with the artists that we work with, limited edition, things that people can buy that are at a bit more affordable price point than the artwork so that we can cultivate a collector's market, whether it's young, new collectors or appeal to experienced, older collectors in the area or the metro area that want to invest in the top emerging talent in Detroit right now and provide those opportunities.<br />
We also are starting to work a bit more with local businesses to utilize our online audiences, doing sponsored articles on our website. There are advertising and banner opportunities because our traffic-<br />
Paulina:<br />
..and banner opportunities because our traffic on the website continues to grow and the traffic is coming in from all sorts of places. It is a global platform so trying to monetize those opportunities and certainly with the new opening of a store location that we are currently working on, I think that's just going to be another opportunity to have a direct point of contact for customers and visitors and other collaborators that we work with to be in a space that actually represents local artwork and potentially bringing in people from outside of Detroit to showcase what they have going on in other parts of the country to our audience here. I think that that synergy is important to keep people inspired and informed of, not what's just happening locally but everywhere else too.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Cool. You're trying all different kinds of...opening all kinds of doors for potential revenue. What would you say at this moment your ideal client would be or customer. If you said, "Hey this would be ideal if I had more of these."</p>
<p>Paulina:<br />
I think that some of the developments that are happening around the city, so people who are building lofts or other offices that want to integrate art into their spaces would be great. We're working on a commission right now with an artist who's doing a large scale mural and an accompanying series of work for one of the new buildings for people living in the city. I think as there is more new construction brought into Detroit, I think that we have the relationships and the network of high performing artists that are young and ambitious and talented who are looking for work opportunities on a bigger scale and are ready to take those on.<br />
Of course, it's not all about the big clients. I think that more beginning collectors are also great. The art market in Detroit is a bit different than it is in New York or other cities but how do we start to train and teach people that maybe even if you can't afford $1500 or $5000 painting that you can still purchase a $40 print and frame it yourself and start to enjoy some of the benefits of, not just beautifying your own home or office but knowing that you're actually...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-playground-detroit-with-paulina-petkoski-62]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1800</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d4a4fb04-7827-48f6-bc1c-71f0c13ebf1c/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:52:38 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/60708f28-c4a6-464f-ad9b-7a91de2b2989/playgrounddetroitfull.mp3" length="52421008" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>36:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>We have two sides of what we do, IRL and URL. The first part, IRL, is In Real Life, we work with people, and we produce events, we connect people to people, and we like to promote the creative economy. Promoting the arts and culture scene here through exhibits through really cool programming that includes film screening, Q &amp; A panels, installations with other stores that are in the area. Anything that really allows people to connect with one another and experience art in a way that is really fun and unique.&lt;br /&gt;
The other side of it is online. We have had an online magazine since 2011 that we started to really get out all of the fun, creative, news that&apos;s happening in this city that, at the time, wasn&apos;t being told in the mainstream media. Since we started the online magazine, we&apos;ve also expanded the digital media platforms that we have to a really, amazingly, robust, social media following that is growing, basically every week. We have really great Instagram following and Facebook; we use Pinterest, Snapchat, YouTube, anything that really allows our audience to engage with the creative people that we support and promote.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian #61</title><itunes:title>S2: Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian #61</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian</strong></p>
<p>Listen and Learn from the great Lisa Johanon, for 22 years she has led Central Detroit Christian to large-scale community change by building social enterprises, baking pies, and loving others.</p>
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<p>Romy:  Hey Everyone, my name is Romy, and I am your host for another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have the incredible Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian with us. Lisa gives us a brief overview of the ten social enterprises and how they have all held a role in the renovation of their neighborhood. At the end of the episode, we have a great song for you from Detroit artist, Malaya.  Before we move further, let’s see what Jentzen has for us in the fun fuel</p>
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<p>Romy:  Hey Everyone, my name is Romy, and I am your host for another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have the incredible Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian with us. Lisa gives us a brief overview of the ten social enterprises and how they have all held a role in the renovation of their neighborhood. At the end of the episode, we have a great song for you from Detroit artist, Malaya.  Before we move further, let’s see what Jentzen has for us in the fun fuel</p>
<p>Jentzen:  Hey this is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode!</p>
<p>I originally was going to talk about Detroit, and it’s recession but couldn’t resist talking about baking, as you get further into the episode, you will see why. So this week’s fun fuel will be on the history of baking.</p>
<p>During the middle ages, baking was a luxury that few were able to enjoy. Usually, only the rich and royalty ate baked sweets such as cake.</p>
<p>During the late 17th  century, sugar became cheap to purchase. As a result, many people starting making pies with sugar and spices. And then came the birth of having a desert course with meals!</p>
<p>With sugar being more easily accessible, came the invention of the cake hoop and the cake tin along with other kitchen equipment to bake sweets. Schools actually started teaching pastry making at this time.</p>
<p>In the 18th-century, cake making became very popular, and the art of culinary was born. This was also a large credit to ovens becoming cheaper to purchase and many people having them in their homes.</p>
<p>In the 19th-century, baking powder was invented moving cakes from being made with yeast into being made with eggs and flour, giving us the cakes and baked sweets that we see today.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for this week’s episode! Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy:  Baking, I love baking. And, guess what, so does Lisa. I have known Lisa for a while and I purposely asked her about baking because I know that she has baked goods for everyone from some of the local gang leaders, city officials, to her great neighbors. I love the thought of unlocking something in city government by bringing them a pie, Ha! So, as you drop in on this conversation, listen for all of the relational activities she has engaged in for the broader good. She knows it is all about the people!</p>
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<p>Lisa: Central Detroit Christian is a faith-based nonprofit organization. We are this month celebrating our twenty-second anniversary as a nonprofit. We are committed to education, employment, and economic development, within economic development really trying to promote and develop businesses in our community to serve as employment opportunities for our underserved community and also for...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian</strong></p>
<p>Listen and Learn from the great Lisa Johanon, for 22 years she has led Central Detroit Christian to large-scale community change by building social enterprises, baking pies, and loving others.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p>
<p>Romy:  Hey Everyone, my name is Romy, and I am your host for another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have the incredible Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian with us. Lisa gives us a brief overview of the ten social enterprises and how they have all held a role in the renovation of their neighborhood. At the end of the episode, we have a great song for you from Detroit artist, Malaya.  Before we move further, let’s see what Jentzen has for us in the fun fuel</p>
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<p>Romy:  Hey Everyone, my name is Romy, and I am your host for another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. We have the incredible Lisa Johanon of Central Detroit Christian with us. Lisa gives us a brief overview of the ten social enterprises and how they have all held a role in the renovation of their neighborhood. At the end of the episode, we have a great song for you from Detroit artist, Malaya.  Before we move further, let’s see what Jentzen has for us in the fun fuel</p>
<p>Jentzen:  Hey this is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this week’s episode!</p>
<p>I originally was going to talk about Detroit, and it’s recession but couldn’t resist talking about baking, as you get further into the episode, you will see why. So this week’s fun fuel will be on the history of baking.</p>
<p>During the middle ages, baking was a luxury that few were able to enjoy. Usually, only the rich and royalty ate baked sweets such as cake.</p>
<p>During the late 17th  century, sugar became cheap to purchase. As a result, many people starting making pies with sugar and spices. And then came the birth of having a desert course with meals!</p>
<p>With sugar being more easily accessible, came the invention of the cake hoop and the cake tin along with other kitchen equipment to bake sweets. Schools actually started teaching pastry making at this time.</p>
<p>In the 18th-century, cake making became very popular, and the art of culinary was born. This was also a large credit to ovens becoming cheaper to purchase and many people having them in their homes.</p>
<p>In the 19th-century, baking powder was invented moving cakes from being made with yeast into being made with eggs and flour, giving us the cakes and baked sweets that we see today.</p>
<p>This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for this week’s episode! Enjoy the show!</p>
<p>Romy:  Baking, I love baking. And, guess what, so does Lisa. I have known Lisa for a while and I purposely asked her about baking because I know that she has baked goods for everyone from some of the local gang leaders, city officials, to her great neighbors. I love the thought of unlocking something in city government by bringing them a pie, Ha! So, as you drop in on this conversation, listen for all of the relational activities she has engaged in for the broader good. She knows it is all about the people!</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Lisa: Central Detroit Christian is a faith-based nonprofit organization. We are this month celebrating our twenty-second anniversary as a nonprofit. We are committed to education, employment, and economic development, within economic development really trying to promote and develop businesses in our community to serve as employment opportunities for our underserved community and also for amenities that are missing here.</p>
<p>Romy: That was a fantastic synopsis, given how large your organization is.</p>
<p>Lisa: I try. I try to get that elevator speech as small as I can. I've even got the mission statement down where we're transforming individuals while we're transforming our community. It can get to be so ... Twenty minutes later and people's eyes are glazing over.</p>
<p>Romy: Maybe if you would ... Would you mind stating the backdrop of the neighborhood that you're in for those that are unfamiliar with this part of Detroit?</p>
<p>Lisa: Sure. Yes. We're in a central Detroit community which encompasses several different sub-communities like the North End, [inaudible 00:01:47] Hill, Virginia Park. These neighborhoods have been chronically under-resourced for, probably, generations, I think. We do experience generational poverty. About seventy-six percent of our community area live below the poverty line. We have about a sixty-six percent unemployment rate. We're an area that has been very challenged economically.</p>
<p>We have probably a very low graduation rate compared to other areas of the city also, where about thirty-five to forty percent are graduating from high school right now. That's why we have just an all-encompassing approach to what we do, working with children all the way up to eighty-five-year-olds, trying to, like I said, transform people while we transform our community. There's no quick fix. There's no easy answer to anything that we do regarding working with people, regarding working with God's people and the urban core, so businesses as well are the way we do it.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. Before we go to business, something that I know about you because we've regularly connected over the years is that whenever I think of you, Lisa, I think the word relationships. You've done a phenomenal job to take your time and build relationships in the community. Would you mind talking about that a little bit and how that's, I don't know, become part of the personality of Central Detroit Christian?</p>
<p>Lisa: Thanks for bringing that up and guiding me to say the right things. We're very neighborhood focused, and we're very much about living in our community that we serve. The majority of our staff live in our community, and that makes a difference. What we've done is we've developed relationships with our neighbors, and we treat them like they're our neighbors instead of our clients, and it makes a difference.</p>
<p>You go to somebody's house, and you bring a casserole because their husband passed away, or you pray with them. You know what's going on out on the streets even before the police get there. You just have the advantage of being in people's lives and being in their homes. You're part of their family, as opposed to, like I said, a case worker or social worker. You get to know and understand what the issues are in the community in just I think a way more comprehensive way than someone who is an outsider coming in every day, trying to figure it out, and that makes a difference. I think it puts us a little bit ahead of the average Joe trying to make a difference in the under-resourced community because we're right there with the folks, and we understand what the issues are.</p>
<p>Romy: It's far different looking at somebody in the eye and having a heartfelt conversation than it is reading a report or reporting in and out for the day, as you just said.</p>
<p>Lisa: Right. It is.</p>
<p>Romy: You've been known to be quite the baker. You take baked goods even to City officials, right, to get what you need?</p>
<p>Lisa: Right. I mean that is my mantra. That's going to be probably my final business that I develop before I retire one day Romy. It's going to be called Bakery Babes, and we're just going to bake ... I'm going to teach young girls, I mean teenagers, how to bake. My specialties are sweet potato pie, key lime pie, peach cobbler, banana pudding, pineapple upside down cake and oatmeal raisin cookies ... Oh, and pound cake. Just teach them how bakers can work. We're going to sell it, and it's going to be awesome.</p>
<p>Romy: Good.</p>
<p>Lisa: It's going to be fun. It'll be fun. It'll be my grand finale.</p>
<p>Romy: That is so great. I have a feeling it's going to go way beyond that Lisa. Let's take us back because I know you didn't start originally with businesses, but how did it start twenty-two years ago when you first arrived? It was more of a traditional nonprofit at that point, right?</p>
<p>Lisa: We focused primarily on education and youth programs. Yes. It took us a while to get your feet wet regarding housing and figure out how to work with the City and the government officials. Yeah, that's how we started. Then it was probably ten years into that that we said let's start a business. That's where we went with that, and we took off from there. Your first couple times are not necessarily successful, you know. You run into a lot of telling everybody that. I try to tell people, but they come out with this perfectionistic expectation. My goodness, if you can't understand that we have to have a culture that allows failure, then you're never going to make it in business, so we did that.</p>
<p>Our first business was a recycling business. We collected redeemable bottles and cans. Here in Michigan, they're worth ten cents, and that was great. We collected probably sixty-four thousand bottles and cans a month, but we found out it cost us more to ... It cost us thirteen cents a can to collect these cans and sort them. It was a great job for teens. We were probably employing a dozen teens a month on a monthly basis, you know. We couldn't make it break even, so we cut back, and we did all these business things, measures, to make it successful.</p>
<p>We got it down to eleven cents a can, but then we realized to be able to get to a break even point we had to collect about a quarter of a million cans, and I said that's just not going to work, that's just not going to work. Yeah, so we said we'll sell this off, and then we did that to our ... We sold it to our driver, and she's been running it ever since, and it's her business. She could make it happen, and that's fantastic, but we couldn't make it happen as a youth entrepreneur thing.</p>
<p>Another one we sold just this past year, a landscaping company to the manager, Craig. He has a very colorful past himself, but he jumped through all the hoops that we asked him to get this business. He did that, and he bought it on a land contract from us over the course of a year. At the end of that year, which was just this past year, he made a profit. I'm looking, and I'm going, "Man, we struggled to keep that thing above water, and here you take it for one year," but it just goes to show you that when you're the owner, you have just a greater level of buy-in.</p>
<p>He had to make some serious decisions, and he couldn't always lead with his heart, which I have a tendency to do, and I need support. You're always balancing between the head and the heart regarding business, or a social enterprise anyway.</p>
<p>Romy: I think one of the things that you're not giving yourself credit for is you're incubating the whole concept and bearing the cost of all of that, which in the real world you tend to be in a nonprofit place even as a for-profit company. Generally up to the first five years is very traditional, at least in the Midwest, so you're somewhat incubating it for them and letting them train and learn and then giving them the business. It's incredible really.</p>
<p>Lisa: Yeah, but I'm also a soft touch. "Oh, go ahead and hire this sixth guy even though it's really not in our budget. Go and hire him because he needs a job." Now Craig has to say, "No, I don't have it in the budget." He has to make those hard calls. That's how you run a business, though. That's how you keep yourself viable from day-to-day, so it's a give and take.</p>
<p>Romy: You have several more businesses now?</p>
<p>Lisa: We do. We have ten. If you include Central Detroit Christian, that would be eleven, and we are bringing online two before the end of the year.</p>
<p>Romy: Would you mind running through what they are?</p>
<p>Lisa: Sure. Okay. We've got Café Sunshine, which is a healthy food restaurant. We're just in the process of selling that to the managers becoming owners so that a happy day for them and us. [crosstalk]. Peaches & Greens Produce Market and mobile truck. That is doing well. It took us seven years to break even on that one Romy because we were in a recession and didn't even know it. It's hard to open and keep open a business under any circumstances, let alone a recession and you're seeing going into bankruptcy and being in a poor neighborhood, but we are finally at break even, and that's thrilling.</p>
<p>We are also ... Okay, that's Peaches & Greens, Café Sunshine, then the ground landscaping which I just told you about that we sold to Craig. Restoration Warehouse, which is a thrift store that focuses on home goods. Shadow of the Almighty Security Company, which is given men jobs doing security. We've got five guys who are doing that right now.</p>
<p>Romy: Love that.</p>
<p>Lisa: Faith, Hope and Love Productions, which is our two gardens and our orchard, which do produce and do bring in revenue. It's not just a hobby. Then we also have CDC's Farm and Fishery, which is an aquaponics farm. We're just now converting over from tilapia to catfish, hoping that that has better sales or is a more attractive fish for people to participate or buy. We also have Solid Rock Property Management. We manage all of our properties, and we're able to hire men who do landscaping, and we hire Craig for that, who do maintenance, which is clean out, and who do the management of collecting rents. We manage about sixty units.</p>
<p>Romy: That's six-zero, right?</p>
<p>Lisa: Six-zero, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: Six-zero?</p>
<p>Lisa: Someone just told me that all of our real estate work is a business too, and I said, "Well, we don't call it that," but I don't know. Finally, we have Fit & Fold, which is our laundry where you can work out, you know fit, while you do your laundry, fold. That's what we do. That's been open a year now. What's in the incubator right now ... I hope that was ten. I hope that added up to ten. What's in the incubator right now is City Kids Soup, where we'll be doing a soup line. We have six different soup recipes and teens in our entrepreneurship program will be bagging those soups and putting them out for sale. They'll be developing a marketing strategy of how we sell these packaged soups.</p>
<p>Romy: That's so great.</p>
<p>Lisa: That's a ... Just a way to get kids and teens involved and gave them some opportunity to earn some money. Then our big venture is Pathways of Promise Pre-School. I know that's a little bit of a hybrid regarding service, but it's business. If you don't run it like a business, you're dead.</p>
<p>Romy: Right.</p>
<p>Lisa: We are licensed for sixty-four kids, and we're looking forward to being open in January.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow, that's incredible. One thing I wanted to hit on and touch on I guess I should say is your opinion or your perception of how when you started to add businesses in the neighborhood and create employment for the local neighborhood, how did that change your interaction? My sense has always been as you took me around and you showed me the areas that were still or formerly drug areas and gang areas, you and I talked a while a couple of years back about how that ... It almost elevated the respect. Instead of serving, now you're creating employment, and that's a different conversation with the locals. Could you just talk about that, your opinions on that or what you witnessed there or anything?</p>
<p>Lisa: Yeah. I think it's interesting that the places where we have started a business, and it kind of makes sense that the reason they went on business, was because they were in these drug infested areas. That's why we were able to get these buildings. Did know that, didn't think about that at the time. A couple of our key businesses are really in areas that have been known for having a lot of drug activity and a lot of different violent type activity.</p>
<p>We're the strongholds in those places. It changed the atmosphere, but it happens over time, and it happens in different ways at each place. It's that social mission that you have as a social entrepreneur endeavor that you weren't even thinking about, but you're creating safe havens for people in these areas of need. That's what Peaches & Greens has become. It's a community place now. All of our Block Club Presidents have a key to the conference room that's attached to the store. They can come in there and hold Block Club meetings.</p>
<p>We've developed space for the men across the street who are just hanging out in the dilapidated old garage. We renovated that and built an overhang and picnic tables for them. Now they're gatekeepers. They watch our store, and there's just this spirit of gratefulness and appreciation, and that resonates throughout the community that you're not going to mess with CDC because they've done this for us.</p>
<p>Same thing with where the laundromat is at and where the Farm and Fishery is. That used to be just a real haven for purchasing heroin and cocaine, right there at the Farm and Fishery, and that has stopped because of all of our activity that's there. It's not like we went out and said, "Police, you've got to do something," although that would have been a good idea too, we just kept the area busy, so busy that drug dealers don't want to be there. People don't want to be caught buying right there, so they had to move their activity somewhere else.</p>
<p>We say commerce and business are welcome here, and we look forward to having them here. It creates a healthier community obviously. There're times when you have to get ugly, and you do have to get in somebody's face to get them out of there, but I'm willing to be that person if that's what has to happen to lead the way. We've just got a mix and variety of people. We have to learn how to work with each of them. They also have to understand what our standards are, and this not how business can happen.</p>
<p>Our restaurant ... I can remember when drug dealers kept trying to post in there, saying, "This is our table." They'd buy Coke or some beverage, and they'd sit there, and then they'd wait for the cars to pull up, and I'd have to go over there three or ... Because it was right across the street from my office ... Three or four or five times a day to get them out of there, just get them out of there.</p>
<p>We'd been nose-to-nose on the street, and I'd be calling the police. It's always a risk to call the police because you never know if they're going to come, but I'd be nose-to-nose with them, calling the police, and they'd be calling the police on me, saying I'm harassing them at the same time, so it was just insanity. You just got to say we're not going to tolerate this behavior. This community deserves [inaudible], and you are not the best.</p>
<p>Romy: I'm so glad you just brought this up, this issue of drawing boundaries. So many social entrepreneurs say to me all the time, "Well, Romy," I'm going to fill in the blank, "Romy, if I'm feeding the poor it's okay if they mistreat us. It's just what we're supposed to do." I'm like, "Well, that's not necessarily so. You have permission to draw boundaries for yourself and those on your team."</p>
<p>That's rarely talked about. It's sort of we're worried about offending others. The truth is that everybody wants to be treated well, and they actually feel safer with folks that are drawing boundaries because there's a consistency there.</p>
<p>Lisa: Yeah. There was a time where there were We Hate Lisa tee shirts. I'm saying that facetiously. The people didn't understand or respect the need for us to change the culture in this]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-lisa-johanon-of-central-detroit-christian]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1788</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cd477e86-4508-4c31-b415-31e766a787da/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2016 11:43:12 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f0812b3a-d927-4fd9-b9c1-7ed5e8a35648/lisajohanonmixdown.mp3" length="46855535" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>32:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Listen and Learn from the great Lisa Johanon, for 22 years she has led Central Detroit Christian to large-scale community change by building social enterprises, baking pies, and loving others.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Scott Tallenger of Left-Handed Branded and the Detroit Mula  #60</title><itunes:title>S2: Scott Tallenger of Left-Handed Branded and the Detroit Mula  #60</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong> Scott Tallenger of Left-handed Branded and the Detroit Mula!</strong></p>
<p>Romy and Scott discuss his inspired left-handed functional design, how he loves Detroit and loves to manufacture locally!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_23-1.png"></a>         <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/SmileAndTheWorldSmilesWithYou-1.png"></a>     <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1775" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-300x300.jpg" alt="instagram_ad_19 (1)" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1.jpg 1080w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>    <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1770" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-201x300.png" alt="35mmAnkleStrap (1)" width="201" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-201x300.png 201w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-686x1024.png 686w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1.png 688w" sizes="(max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px" /></a>      <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1771" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-200x300.png" alt="EasternMarketBike (1)" width="200" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-200x300.png 200w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-682x1024.png 682w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1.png 688w" sizes="(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px" /></a></p>
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<h4>Introduction</h4>
<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and it is great to share another interview with you. You listeners have been so supportive!</p>
<p>On this episode, you will drop in on my conversation with Scott Tallenger of Left-Handed Branded. You will hear about how he began his left-handed fashion design and, this</p>
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<p>My clothing website is: <a href="http://http://left-handedbranded.com/" target="_blank">Left-handedbranded.com</a></p>
<p>Then, @lefthandedbranded on Instagram.</p>
<p>@lefthandedbrand on Twitter.</p>
<p>And, lefthandedbranded on Pinterest.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re on all of them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>More Links </strong></p>
<p>Jump over to the website for the podcast at <a href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com </a></p>
<p>Give us a question to the mailbag!</p>
<p>Find us on <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">Facebook</a> and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/bonfirespodcast">@bonfirespodcast</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Find more about Gingras Global at <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> and <a href="http://www.gingrasglobalgroups.com">www.gingrasglobalgroups.com</a>  and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/gingrasglobal">Facebook of Gingras...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Scott Tallenger of Left-handed Branded and the Detroit Mula!</strong></p>
<p>Romy and Scott discuss his inspired left-handed functional design, how he loves Detroit and loves to manufacture locally!</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_23-1.png"></a>         <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/SmileAndTheWorldSmilesWithYou-1.png"></a>     <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1775" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-300x300.jpg" alt="instagram_ad_19 (1)" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_19-1.jpg 1080w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>    <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1770" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-201x300.png" alt="35mmAnkleStrap (1)" width="201" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-201x300.png 201w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1-686x1024.png 686w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/35mmAnkleStrap-1.png 688w" sizes="(max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px" /></a>      <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1771" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-200x300.png" alt="EasternMarketBike (1)" width="200" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-200x300.png 200w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1-682x1024.png 682w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/EasternMarketBike-1.png 688w" sizes="(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h4>Introduction</h4>
<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy, and it is great to share another interview with you. You listeners have been so supportive!</p>
<p>On this episode, you will drop in on my conversation with Scott Tallenger of Left-Handed Branded. You will hear about how he began his left-handed fashion design and, this</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>My clothing website is: <a href="http://http://left-handedbranded.com/" target="_blank">Left-handedbranded.com</a></p>
<p>Then, @lefthandedbranded on Instagram.</p>
<p>@lefthandedbrand on Twitter.</p>
<p>And, lefthandedbranded on Pinterest.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re on all of them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>More Links </strong></p>
<p>Jump over to the website for the podcast at <a href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com </a></p>
<p>Give us a question to the mailbag!</p>
<p>Find us on <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">Facebook</a> and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/bonfirespodcast">@bonfirespodcast</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Find more about Gingras Global at <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> and <a href="http://www.gingrasglobalgroups.com">www.gingrasglobalgroups.com</a>  and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/gingrasglobal">Facebook of Gingras Global</a> and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gingrasglobal">@gingrasglobal</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1778" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1-300x300.jpg" alt="themula-wanted-02 (1)" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/themula-wanted-02-1.jpg 1080w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>        <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoeLouisLunchBreak-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1776" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoeLouisLunchBreak-2-300x247.jpg" alt="JoeLouisLunchBreak (2)" width="300" height="247" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoeLouisLunchBreak-2-300x247.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoeLouisLunchBreak-2-1024x844.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoeLouisLunchBreak-2.jpg 1244w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>      <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mula-Flyer-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1767" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mula-Flyer-1-231x300.jpg" alt="Mula-Flyer (1)" width="231" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mula-Flyer-1-231x300.jpg 231w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mula-Flyer-1-791x1024.jpg 791w" sizes="(max-width: 231px) 100vw, 231px" /></a>     <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VivaUncolSot-1.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1773" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VivaUncolSot-1-200x300.png" alt="Viva&amp;UncolSot (1)" width="200" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VivaUncolSot-1-200x300.png 200w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VivaUncolSot-1-684x1024.png 684w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/VivaUncolSot-1.png 690w" sizes="(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px" /></a>    <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1774" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1-300x300.jpg" alt="instagram_ad_17 (1)" width="300" height="300" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1-300x300.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1-150x150.jpg 150w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/instagram_ad_17-1.jpg 1080w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/scott-tallenger-of-left-handed-branded-and-the-detroit-mula-60]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1761</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b3377415-6751-4d74-b245-a97e32f7b1c0/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 02:21:27 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cf7d5d03-10cf-47bc-9b2e-a0dc75a0cf72/scotttallengermixdown.mp3" length="38000236" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Scott Tallenger of Left-handed Branded and the Detroit Mula!&lt;br /&gt;
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Romy and Scott discuss his inspired left-handed functional design, how he loves Detroit and loves to manufacture locally!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Amy Kaherl of Detroit Soup #59</title><itunes:title>S2: Amy Kaherl of Detroit Soup #59</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong> Amy Kaherl of Detroit Soup!</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Amy Kaherl of the now famous Detroit Soup! Amy shares about how she started <a href="http://www.detroitsoup.com">Detroit Soup</a>, some of the barriers to success and grand plans for the people of Detroit. Amy is a visionary catalyst and passionate about people. Great song at the end by Tim Schumack of Assemble Sound.</p>
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<p><strong>Full Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, This is Romy and I am your host for this episode on Detroit Soup!  You will meet Amy Kaherl, Executive Director of Detroit Soup. Amy shares her very intimate thoughts and strong opinions about the kind of help Detroit entrepreneurs need.  At the end, of course, you will hear a full song by an artist curated by Detroit&#8217;s Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, before you meet Amy,  I want to welcome Jentzen back. He has been away for about 3 months and I have certainly missed his fun facts.  I think he has a little something about Soup…</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey Guys, here with this episode&#8217;s fun fuel!</p>
<p><strong>1) </strong>In 2014, Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup celebrated its <a href="http://www.campbellsoup.ca/en-ca/news-room/campbell-news/chicken-noodle-soup">80th anniversary</a>.<br />
<strong>2) </strong>It is believed that the <a href="http://thegoodnews.biz/soup-facts-fun-trivia/">first-ever soup</a> was created around 6,000 B.C. and was made of hippopotamus.<br />
<strong>3) </strong>Soup isn’t always hot! For those who live in warmer climates like Spain, cold soup alternatives, like tomato-based <a href="http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/gazpacho-recipe.html">gazpacho</a>, are popular.<br />
<strong>4) </strong>Many soups that seem suitable for <a href="http://www.food.com/recipe/authentic-french-onion-soup-courtesy-of-julia-child-356428">vegetarians</a> actually aren’t. French onion soup, for example, is commonly made with a beef-broth base.<br />
<strong>5) </strong>Though it has been linked to several origin stories, there are suggestions that the word “<a href="http://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/ingredients/article/the-etymology-of-soup-and-stew">soup</a>” can be traced back to the sixth-century Latin word “suppa,” meaning a piece of bread eaten in broth.</p>
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<p>Romy: Thanks Jentzen!  So good to have you back on the podcast. I love fun facts.</p>
<p>Now let me set up the conversation I had with Amy. First of all, you will hear a bit of an echo as we were sitting sort of an industrial maker space called Pony Ride. Pony Ride is a maker space with, I think, about 50 manufacturing entrepreneurs. Many of our social enterprise clients have spaces in Pony Ride. That was just a little plug for Pony Ride.</p>
<p>I was drawn to Amy as a guest for the show because she is a social entrepreneur. Her organization has been the catalyst for many  of the businesses that exist today in Detroit. As you will hear, she is very brave about expressing herself and is passionate about helping others grow and succeed. Let’s drop in on my conversation with Amy…</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome Amy! I&#8217;ve been excited to interview you. You&#8217;re all over the news, a lot of people know about you at Detroit SOUP, but I want to give our listeners a chance to hear about it. Let&#8217;s talk about what Detroit SOUP is.</p>
<p>Amy: Sure. The simplest way to describe it is Detroit SOUP is a micro-granting dinner that is funding projects that are looking to make the city better. The ideas can come from any sector at any place of ideation. You don&#8217;t have to have a business; you don&#8217;t have to have a nonprofit around it. It can just be in the idea phase. You submit your idea through our website, <a href="http://www.detroitsoup.com">DetroitSOUP.com</a> and then all past winners and any volunteer then have the opportunity to vote on what project gets pitched at the dinner. Four ideas...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Amy Kaherl of Detroit Soup!</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Amy Kaherl of the now famous Detroit Soup! Amy shares about how she started <a href="http://www.detroitsoup.com">Detroit Soup</a>, some of the barriers to success and grand plans for the people of Detroit. Amy is a visionary catalyst and passionate about people. Great song at the end by Tim Schumack of Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Full Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, This is Romy and I am your host for this episode on Detroit Soup!  You will meet Amy Kaherl, Executive Director of Detroit Soup. Amy shares her very intimate thoughts and strong opinions about the kind of help Detroit entrepreneurs need.  At the end, of course, you will hear a full song by an artist curated by Detroit&#8217;s Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, before you meet Amy,  I want to welcome Jentzen back. He has been away for about 3 months and I have certainly missed his fun facts.  I think he has a little something about Soup…</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey Guys, here with this episode&#8217;s fun fuel!</p>
<p><strong>1) </strong>In 2014, Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup celebrated its <a href="http://www.campbellsoup.ca/en-ca/news-room/campbell-news/chicken-noodle-soup">80th anniversary</a>.<br />
<strong>2) </strong>It is believed that the <a href="http://thegoodnews.biz/soup-facts-fun-trivia/">first-ever soup</a> was created around 6,000 B.C. and was made of hippopotamus.<br />
<strong>3) </strong>Soup isn’t always hot! For those who live in warmer climates like Spain, cold soup alternatives, like tomato-based <a href="http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/gazpacho-recipe.html">gazpacho</a>, are popular.<br />
<strong>4) </strong>Many soups that seem suitable for <a href="http://www.food.com/recipe/authentic-french-onion-soup-courtesy-of-julia-child-356428">vegetarians</a> actually aren’t. French onion soup, for example, is commonly made with a beef-broth base.<br />
<strong>5) </strong>Though it has been linked to several origin stories, there are suggestions that the word “<a href="http://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/ingredients/article/the-etymology-of-soup-and-stew">soup</a>” can be traced back to the sixth-century Latin word “suppa,” meaning a piece of bread eaten in broth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Thanks Jentzen!  So good to have you back on the podcast. I love fun facts.</p>
<p>Now let me set up the conversation I had with Amy. First of all, you will hear a bit of an echo as we were sitting sort of an industrial maker space called Pony Ride. Pony Ride is a maker space with, I think, about 50 manufacturing entrepreneurs. Many of our social enterprise clients have spaces in Pony Ride. That was just a little plug for Pony Ride.</p>
<p>I was drawn to Amy as a guest for the show because she is a social entrepreneur. Her organization has been the catalyst for many  of the businesses that exist today in Detroit. As you will hear, she is very brave about expressing herself and is passionate about helping others grow and succeed. Let’s drop in on my conversation with Amy…</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy: Welcome Amy! I&#8217;ve been excited to interview you. You&#8217;re all over the news, a lot of people know about you at Detroit SOUP, but I want to give our listeners a chance to hear about it. Let&#8217;s talk about what Detroit SOUP is.</p>
<p>Amy: Sure. The simplest way to describe it is Detroit SOUP is a micro-granting dinner that is funding projects that are looking to make the city better. The ideas can come from any sector at any place of ideation. You don&#8217;t have to have a business; you don&#8217;t have to have a nonprofit around it. It can just be in the idea phase. You submit your idea through our website, <a href="http://www.detroitsoup.com">DetroitSOUP.com</a> and then all past winners and any volunteer then have the opportunity to vote on what project gets pitched at the dinner. Four ideas have four minutes to share, four questions back from the diners, and then the diners have a chance to eat then, share, connect, and vote on what project should win the $5 suggested donation from the door. The money&#8217;s the least interesting thing that gets exchanged. It&#8217;s about community connection, neighborhood engagement, people sharing resources, volunteering, giving maybe more money, but then also challenging each other as voters and diners on what project they think should win the money from the door.<br />
Hopefully, through good conversations around dinner tables or waiting in line to either vote or grab food, you&#8217;ll come away with maybe being challenged the way that your values or ethos or ideas are of what makes something better, which is so subjective. It&#8217;s about you and where you come from and your family story and your family history. We&#8217;ve been doing that for about six and a half years and have raised over $125,000 from Detroiters back to Detroiters. We&#8217;re in about nine neighborhood geographies throughout the city plus a monthly city-wide soup starting in September that runs until June.</p>
<p>Amy: I just love this that it&#8217;s way more than business plans. It&#8217;s about all these ideas. How did you come up with that element of it? How did you come up with the idea to let it be so free?</p>
<p>Amy: Well, one, it came from an art idea. It was a bunch of women who were celebrating an event in Pontiac called &#8220;Women: A Celebration of Art and Culture.&#8221; We loved working together. Our friend, Katie, had experienced a dinner like this in Chicago where you&#8217;re only voting on art ideas, so we pitched it that way in Detroit, but Detroiters came back and said, &#8220;Hey, I have this idea about land use.&#8221; &#8220;I have this idea about technology,&#8221; and what I found over time, is that when you put something around a silo, guess who you&#8217;re only attracting? People who are attracted to that silo. If you&#8217;re not interested in a topic, like I always say if this would have started with urban farming I would not be sitting across from you. I&#8217;m grateful that urban farming exists and because of SOUP I&#8217;ve learned so much about it, but it wasn&#8217;t something where I wake up in the morning, and I think about gardening and farming. A lot of people do, but I&#8217;m not one of them. I think about art where other people wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
There&#8217;s permission with a sector-less-ness of it that folks feel welcome to participate, and they don&#8217;t have to be an expert in anything. They don&#8217;t even have to live in the neighborhood or the community. They just want to know what&#8217;s happening and what voices are being shared and what ideas are being shared. For me, if you don&#8217;t have user interaction, how do you know your idea&#8217;s good or bad? I know a lot of people who get in their little hole, they work night and day, the believe in their idea, and they start pitching it to folks, and they get negative feedback. They can&#8217;t change because they&#8217;re so grounded because they&#8217;ve worked tirelessly on this idea, that it doesn&#8217;t work this way then it shouldn&#8217;t work at all, where when you pitch at something like SOUP you&#8217;re getting people&#8217;s feedback. You&#8217;re getting peoples&#8217; questions. I&#8217;ve heard more times than not, &#8220;I&#8217;ve never thought of it this way.&#8221; Or people will say, &#8220;I&#8217;m not looking to win the money, I&#8217;m looking to get the feedback,&#8221; because it&#8217;s people outside of your natural network. No one owes you anything who&#8217;s at this dinner, but generally care and generally want to see the community succeed, so they want to hear or find out the people who are willing to genuinely do something within the community.<br />
Maybe it is a one-time project, like a clean-up or a garden project, but sometimes it&#8217;s something like the Empowerment Plan or Rebel Now or Detroit Food Academy that make long-lasting, broad systematic changes to the way that we think about engaging with the problems and the folks that are in need within the community. For me, it&#8217;s just a couple of hours, and you walk away feeling enlightened about how people are creative around solving problems within the community.</p>
<p>Romy: We had met so many people had told me about you. So many. One common theme, though, I remember thinking, &#8220;Man, I&#8217;ve got to meet her,&#8221; because you leave a trail of inspiration with these events. People end up going, &#8220;Man, I heard this idea, and it was a simple idea, and as I listened to that person talk about it, allowing me to lift my idea up a little further.&#8221; It&#8217;s giving people courage to get up and say, &#8220;You know what? I have an idea too,&#8221; and as I kept hearing this over and over again all I could think about was in society today we as humans can feel so undervalued, and I see this human valuation of their heart coming and, like, &#8220;Wow. Maybe my idea isn&#8217;t so kooky. Maybe I&#8217;m uniquely made for something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amy: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I lived in LA for three years and the big thing that I learned about coming back to Michigan after my time in LA is LA, and New York people the creators of culture. Midwesterners are consumers of said culture. We rarely make the culture, so we always feel like there&#8217;s already one rung down where this isn&#8217;t for me or we didn&#8217;t make it, or I&#8217;m not good enough for this or I don&#8217;t have those access to resources. Well, most of those people either worked really hard, move cross country, left everything. That was the one thing about LA that I loved was everyone was there for the hustle. Everyone had a story. Your sob story didn&#8217;t matter because everyone&#8217;s sob story was the same. Everyone left a family. Everyone left something behind. Even listening to the Olympics, if anyone knew what I went through. Life is hard. All of us have a story. Let&#8217;s think about the people who had it &#8220;easy,&#8221; are the ones who often struggle the most because it got hard. Child actors are all hot messes right now as they become adults because so much was given that you didn&#8217;t have to work for it.<br />
For me, you&#8217;ve got to work. None of this business just got off the ground. Donald Trump is showing what happens. You don&#8217;t have the work ethic, really in my opinion. He got inherited money and then failed at hundreds of companies and if he becomes president will fail at that too because he&#8217;s not a good leader. Being a business owner and leader in this community means it&#8217;s equitable, it&#8217;s sustainable, it cares about others, that you feel empowered. I look around a lot of people, and I hear so many people who don&#8217;t feel like their idea&#8217;s good, they don&#8217;t feel like they&#8217;re good, they don&#8217;t feel like they&#8217;re worthy, they don&#8217;t feel like they have anything to give, and I cry bull.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah.</p>
<p>Amy: You do have things to give, and you are really smart. I have zero business background. I am a theologian. I went to seminary. Guess what classes I never took? Business, banking. We didn&#8217;t have those in seminary. For me all of this, that&#8217;s hard. The financial piece is hard because I came from a culture of giving to a culture where I think we want to give we just don&#8217;t know how to give, and I think we&#8217;re afraid of the unknown. We&#8217;re afraid that we might lose money. We&#8217;re afraid that they&#8217;ll be a failure. But we need to lose money. We need to fail. We need to try harder. Things are not okay in Detroit, so if we keep thinking that, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m a business person whose figured it all out,&#8221; you might be making money on money, but you&#8217;re only creating a larger gap in the system for more and more people to become impoverished. We need better access to resources.</p>
<p>Amy: Already, because this, that and the other, and we put up gigantic hoops. I keep jumping through them myself. As successful as this dinner has been, I don&#8217;t take a cut from the door because $5 needs to be accessible so that you feel welcome and ready to come. The risk is low, and the experience and the outcome are high. You know? We do our best, and there are some days we get donations and most days we don&#8217;t. I&#8217;m on a podcast because I stood up and I did something. I&#8217;m really good at telling my story; I&#8217;m really bad for asking for money.</p>
<p>Romy: I understand that.</p>
<p>Amy: Anyone who&#8217;s listening, it&#8217;s just like, I don&#8217;t have it all together, I don&#8217;t have it all figured out. I haven&#8217;t climbed the holy grail, and things aren&#8217;t mapped perfectly for me. This isn&#8217;t easy, but I&#8217;m willing to wake up everyday and go to the grind. Willing, for the last five years, to some months have a paycheck and most months not. I&#8217;m willing to forego my own physical health, which I&#8217;m not as much anymore, but things that I&#8217;ve chosen to do for the sake of this idea, and the sake of the other. Which I think is really unhealthy. I will say I&#8217;m learning how to grow from that, but-</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Me too. Commentary, me too.</p>
<p>Amy: I think for the most part, though, is I don&#8217;t know what else to do because this is what I feel like I need to be doing. I love this community some days, and I hate this community some days. I love what I&#8217;ve been able to watch others accomplish, and then I get to accomplish as well.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. You know, as you&#8217;re talking, I just can&#8217;t help but think about some things that I have learned, too. We&#8217;ve been on a similar [inaudible <span>[00:11:55]</span> as to Grass Global, and doing this podcast, is the heart to serve has been somehow supernaturally given to me, because when everyone says &#8220;gosh, what are you doing?&#8221;, You know, no money. It&#8217;s like well there&#8217;s some other reason why we&#8217;re out serving day in and day out. You get caught in the passion of the community, of the people. One important lesson I&#8217;ve learned over these last six years is that I put a lot more value on the money when I first started this than I do now. I have less value on the money and more value on what people can do as a community-</p>
<p>Amy: Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy: No question. Now, having said that we need money because we don&#8217;t live in a trading culture.</p>
<p>Amy: Yeah, right. I wish we did.</p>
<p>Romy: We have to do some of it with money, but I can tell you I&#8217;ve put more, I&#8217;ve watched people come together that are so under-resourced. Once you activate that inspiration, that brilliance together, oh my gosh, I&#8217;ve been amazed and astounded, and so humbled. Coming out of the financial industry, I&#8217;m thinking &#8220;okay, I learned the best of the best techniques for everything&#8221;-</p>
<p>Amy: Sure.</p>
<p>Romy: That&#8217;s what moves the market; that&#8217;s what I was taught for 25 years. Boy, what really moves the market is people coming together, and then money is just a tool.</p>
<p>Amy: Well, this year I&#8217;ve had an immense opportunity to go to the Global Entrepreneurship Summit that President Obama puts on, and I was one of 5 Detroit delegates to go and represent. Mark Zuckerberg speak from Facebook, and he goes &#8220;you know how many times people said &#8216;well, no one outside of college will use Facebook.&#8217; You know how many people said &#8216;This person won&#8217;t use it, and this person won&#8217;t use it.'&#8221; It&#8217;s that we&#8217;re always looking at today, as how people use things. I get it if you&#8217;re only looking at tomorrow&#8217;s dollar, I guess that&#8217;s fine, but for real lasting change, art that actually matters. Businesses that actually have creative change. Or real change within a culture. It&#8217;s not this quick fix; it&#8217;s a long-term investment. It&#8217;s a long term game. It&#8217;s not just about tomorrow; it&#8217;s about tomorrow&#8217;s tomorrow&#8217;s tomorrow.<br />
When I moved here, the only grants I&#8217;ve received are one year. If we really want to create sustainable solutions for Detroit, we need to think 10 to 20 year. We need to not think 3-year turnaround; we need to think ten-year turnaround. Right now we&#8217;re at your 7 of soup, and I just really think it could be a 10-12 year project. It doesn&#8217;t need to be around in 45 years. If it should be around in 45 years, then we haven&#8217;t fixed the problems, right, of the ecosystem.<br />
We continue to put more barriers of entry in, because for me, if people are coming to soup the way that they have, then they don&#8217;t know how to access the door into the ecosystem. They&#8217;re coming to us because we&#8217;re there, we&#8217;re present, we&#8217;re not an institution, it&#8217;s flexible, it&#8217;s fluid, it moves, it changes, the ideas are always different. There&#8217;s no one set pattern. It&#8217;s all these different ideas, and so because of that, it doesn&#8217;t fit in a box, and it doesn&#8217;t fit in this one solution. There&#8217;s a lot of different solutions, and it&#8217;s the people behind those solutions that we should-should hear their voices, and seeing how they&#8217;re filling the gaps. Maybe it does need to be around a little bit longer than that, but I think that that&#8217;s our own selfish need to root things, rather than letting it grow into an ecosystem that has better doors to enter into.</p>
<p>Romy: You&#8217;re going back to the way non-profits were created to be. To get in and solve a solution.</p>
<p>Amy: Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: You&#8217;re honoring the original-</p>
<p>Amy: Totally. As un-traditional as I am, this is so traditional. Then thinking about my theology background, of course, I would find a traditional model. Poverty can get solved in our lifetime.</p>
<p>Romy: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah.</p>
<p>Amy: If the 3 trillion or 5 trillion dollars are going to fight wars, we can find some of that money to get back into education, find a better loan system for housing for all people. Where they can continue to create equity, so that we&#8217;re all reaching at the same level, for the same thing. Now, not all of us have the same drive. That, we can get caught up in trauma and vulnerability to take us away from the things that give us joy, but some of us don&#8217;t want to work 10-15 hours a day. That just means you have to work longer at it.</p>
<p>Romy: Right.</p>
<p>Amy: Maybe you&#8217;re healthier about it.</p>
<p>Amy: We live in a culture that doesn&#8217;t value the self, doesn&#8217;t value the other, that we&#8217;re independent human beings that are independent of each other, but really we are wonderful humans, built with so many gifts and talents, that live in a space that are meant to draw on each other as support systems, and create healthy, safe communities, where if we really believe that our children can thrive, then we need to create really communities that our children can thrive, because they&#8217;re just mini adults.</p>
<p>Amy: Right? They&#8217;re adults longer than they are children, so let&#8217;s create safer, healthier communities for these little mini-adults to be better-thriving adult adults.</p>
<p>Romy: Right. You hit on something, too, this term &#8220;self-made&#8221;, I&#8217;ve been thinking about this a lot. People who brag about this, it becomes a prideful statement.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Here in Detroit, it is more community-made, and it&#8217;s more of what Detroit&#8217;s soup is.</p>
<p>Romy: Are you finding that the people who are now your regular attendees? Do you get a sense that they come back because of the community, they enjoy the community?]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/amy-kaherl-of-detroit-soup-58]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1749</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5cb7c939-4b8f-4964-a24e-cdd75b1fe7d6/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:11:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/31d8483e-7acf-4140-a134-338450651275/amyfullpodcast-1.mp3" length="63822062" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Amy Kaherl of the now famous Detroit Soup! Amy shares about how she started Detroit Soup, some of the barriers to success and grand plans for the people of Detroit. Amy is a visionary catalyst and passionate about people. Great song at the end by Tim Schumack of Assemble Sound.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Ginny Fischbach of Impact100 on Impact Investing Inglenook #58</title><itunes:title>S2: Ginny Fischbach of Impact100 on Impact Investing Inglenook #58</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ginny Fischbach of Impact100 on Impact Investing Inglenook</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews the founder of Impact 100 Oakland County (Michigan), Ginny Fischbach. What happens when 100 women put $1000 each together for a community good?</p>
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<p><strong> Full transcription</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to the Impact Investing Inglenook of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. You will meet Ginny Fischbach of a women&#8217;s funding group named Impact 100. Now there are Impact 100 groups all over the world. You will learn more about these groups in just one minute.</p>
<p>First, I want to give a shout out to our listeners and fans in Australia. I want to thank you for your support of our show. And, I know you guys have an Impact 100 group! Very cool. Okay, let me turn our attention to my interview with Ginny</p>
<p>Romy: Welcome, Ginny.</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, thank you, glad to be here.</p>
<p>Romy: I&#8217;m excited to interview you for our Impact Investing segment of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Let&#8217;s jump right to it, what is Impact100?</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, Impact100 is you get a group of women, and you try for a hundred or more women, each woman gives a thousand dollars, donates a thousand dollars, and then we turn that into a one hundred thousand dollar grant for some local nonprofit. If we get more members, of course, the grants get bigger. It started in Cincinnati in 2001, the first Impact100. A lady by the name of Wendy Steele, who now lives in Michigan. She started a group of one hundred in Cincinnati. She had heard of giving circles and stuff and thought it was a great idea to pool money but at a larger scale. She got a hundred women and gave out a hundred thousand dollar grant, and it&#8217;s been growing ever since then. Cincinnati now has almost five hundred members, so they&#8217;re giving close to half a million dollars out a year in grants, which is just awesome.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh my gosh, yes.</p>
<p>Ginny: They&#8217;ve made a huge impact on that city, and they&#8217;re really active. It&#8217;s grown now to thirty-six chapters around the world, thirty of which are in the US and six in Australia, over four hundred thousand members around the country which are really pretty cool. It&#8217;s very, also, a loose organization so we&#8217;re not paying dues into a national organization of any kind, it&#8217;s just everybody helps each other to do their own thing in their area. You can modify the processes and stuff to fit your local area, to make it work for you, so it&#8217;s really pretty exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: That&#8217;s incredibly exciting. I love anything that has to do with a village coming around an idea, sourcing, lots of resources. You get a lot of people together, and you can really make a huge impact. Is that where the name came from or is there a history of the name?</p>
<p>Ginny: Exactly. She named it Impact100 thinking, &#8220;If I get a hundred women, I can make a huge impact. If we pool our money we can make a huge impact on a community.&#8221; That&#8217;s where the name came from, which is pretty exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: When did Oakland County&#8217;s begin?</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, we just started this year. This is our first year, so we&#8217;re really excited. We started getting members first of the year, we got our 501(c)(3) from the IRS in November, I think it was, so right after the holidays we started. In about six months we were able to find a hundred women, so we know there&#8217;s a lot of women who want to give in the community. We have a lot of areas we haven&#8217;t even reached in Oakland County, yet so I think we can get a lot more members real soon.</p>
<p>We just started and if we want to talk about why we started? I have a home down in Fairhope, Alabama, and it&#8217;s in Baldwin County. There&#8217;s an organization down there, an Impact100 organization,...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ginny Fischbach of Impact100 on Impact Investing Inglenook</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews the founder of Impact 100 Oakland County (Michigan), Ginny Fischbach. What happens when 100 women put $1000 each together for a community good?</p>
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<p><strong> Full transcription</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to the Impact Investing Inglenook of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. You will meet Ginny Fischbach of a women&#8217;s funding group named Impact 100. Now there are Impact 100 groups all over the world. You will learn more about these groups in just one minute.</p>
<p>First, I want to give a shout out to our listeners and fans in Australia. I want to thank you for your support of our show. And, I know you guys have an Impact 100 group! Very cool. Okay, let me turn our attention to my interview with Ginny</p>
<p>Romy: Welcome, Ginny.</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, thank you, glad to be here.</p>
<p>Romy: I&#8217;m excited to interview you for our Impact Investing segment of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Let&#8217;s jump right to it, what is Impact100?</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, Impact100 is you get a group of women, and you try for a hundred or more women, each woman gives a thousand dollars, donates a thousand dollars, and then we turn that into a one hundred thousand dollar grant for some local nonprofit. If we get more members, of course, the grants get bigger. It started in Cincinnati in 2001, the first Impact100. A lady by the name of Wendy Steele, who now lives in Michigan. She started a group of one hundred in Cincinnati. She had heard of giving circles and stuff and thought it was a great idea to pool money but at a larger scale. She got a hundred women and gave out a hundred thousand dollar grant, and it&#8217;s been growing ever since then. Cincinnati now has almost five hundred members, so they&#8217;re giving close to half a million dollars out a year in grants, which is just awesome.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh my gosh, yes.</p>
<p>Ginny: They&#8217;ve made a huge impact on that city, and they&#8217;re really active. It&#8217;s grown now to thirty-six chapters around the world, thirty of which are in the US and six in Australia, over four hundred thousand members around the country which are really pretty cool. It&#8217;s very, also, a loose organization so we&#8217;re not paying dues into a national organization of any kind, it&#8217;s just everybody helps each other to do their own thing in their area. You can modify the processes and stuff to fit your local area, to make it work for you, so it&#8217;s really pretty exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: That&#8217;s incredibly exciting. I love anything that has to do with a village coming around an idea, sourcing, lots of resources. You get a lot of people together, and you can really make a huge impact. Is that where the name came from or is there a history of the name?</p>
<p>Ginny: Exactly. She named it Impact100 thinking, &#8220;If I get a hundred women, I can make a huge impact. If we pool our money we can make a huge impact on a community.&#8221; That&#8217;s where the name came from, which is pretty exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: When did Oakland County&#8217;s begin?</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, we just started this year. This is our first year, so we&#8217;re really excited. We started getting members first of the year, we got our 501(c)(3) from the IRS in November, I think it was, so right after the holidays we started. In about six months we were able to find a hundred women, so we know there&#8217;s a lot of women who want to give in the community. We have a lot of areas we haven&#8217;t even reached in Oakland County, yet so I think we can get a lot more members real soon.</p>
<p>We just started and if we want to talk about why we started? I have a home down in Fairhope, Alabama, and it&#8217;s in Baldwin County. There&#8217;s an organization down there, an Impact100 organization, that now has almost five hundred members, so they&#8217;re giving out close to half a million dollars a year in the area. The women down there are so excited by it; it&#8217;s catching. You can&#8217;t help but get excited just talking to them. When I retired, a couple of them talked to me and said I should look at it; I ought to do what they&#8217;re doing down there, and so I talked to them and got excited and got started up here for that very reason. It&#8217;s pretty cool. In Pensacola, which is down in that area as well, they have over a thousand member.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow.</p>
<p>Ginny: They&#8217;re giving over a million dollars a year. This will be their third year in a row giving over a million dollars &#8230;</p>
<p>Romy: Wow.</p>
<p>Ginny: Which is crazy. There&#8217;re banners up in the streets when they&#8217;re doing there membership drive and stuff, the whole community gets excited. When I look at Pensacola, they have over a thousand members, and they serve a half a million people.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow.</p>
<p>Ginny: What an impact. I mean, hence the name, right? What an impact to be able to give a million dollars a year to a community of half a million people, so, just crazy.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, that&#8217;s really amazing. What do you find when you talk about the dollar amount, the thousand dollar amount as an option?</p>
<p>Ginny: A thousand dollars is an interesting thing because women look at it two ways; one it&#8217;s a lot and for some people, yeah, it&#8217;s not as much. Most people it&#8217;s a lot, but when they realize they get involved, one of the things we didn&#8217;t talk about is, each of the women who gives the thousand also then gets a vote in where the money goes at the end of the year. It&#8217;s exciting, and they get to be part of the process of vetting all the organizations that put in the applications. They get to vet the application, vet the organizations, so it becomes a real thing to get involved with for the women. They get excited about that. They don&#8217;t have to be involved, other than the vote, but they get a chance to be if they want to be, and most of the women want to be. For a thousand dollars, they get to be really involved as well. It&#8217;s really exciting.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in that process right now, we&#8217;re just starting to get the applications, we&#8217;ve gone through the LOI&#8217;s, and now we&#8217;re getting the applications of the people who made it through the LOI, and so the women are getting excited because we&#8217;re going to start vetting out these applications. Getting them involved, for them, that thousand dollars is worth a lot because they win too because they get to learn about the community, learn about who&#8217;s out there. What I found in some of the other Impact100s who we&#8217;ve talked to, they find some of the women actually jump, and they join the other organizations either as just volunteers or board members because they get excited about something that they see so it&#8217;s pretty cool.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, it gives you a chance to have exposure to some of the organizations, either a deeper exposure that you didn&#8217;t already, maybe made some assumptions or exposure to ones that you wouldn&#8217;t have a chance to normally. Always, I find, if you&#8217;ve got some capital in the game, you got skin in the game, you&#8217;re interest is there, you want to make sure that it&#8217;s going to put to use well.</p>
<p>Ginny: Correct.</p>
<p>Romy: All right, let&#8217;s see. How did it come to be that you guys decided, in Oakland County, that you wanted just to give the one dollar amount, whatever it came to be? You and I talked earlier about as women came aboard, if there were a hundred members it would be a hundred thousand dollars but if it turned out to be a hundred and four, because you had a hundred and four members, how did you walk through that decision matrix of saying, hey we&#8217;re just going to give one amount?</p>
<p>Ginny: Well, we called a lot of other Impact100s and talked to their leadership, around the country, to see what they were doing and what they found worked and didn&#8217;t work, which is really one of the great things about this organization because you have people who&#8217;ve been doing it for years you can talk to. What we found is, if we gave a hundred thousand dollar grant and gave the remaining, let&#8217;s say, four thousand or whatever you have to an organization, they may not know exactly how to use it, so it goes back to the stewardship you talked about. We want to be sure the money gets used as best as possible for our community. If upfront, everybody knows what the amount is, we make the announcement and whatever that amount is, this year it happens to be an even one hundred, but if it had been a hundred and four we would&#8217;ve made that announcement, and the projects would&#8217;ve set their budgets for that. Everything would&#8217;ve been spent well in the community and had the greatest impact on our community.</p>
<p>Romy: What kind of follow-up happens after the money is deployed?</p>
<p>Ginny: We haven&#8217;t named the director yet but what the other Impact100s do is they name one of our board directors will be in charge of follow-up. We&#8217;ll follow up for three years, at least, on the organization we&#8217;ve given the money to, to see how it&#8217;s going. We&#8217;ll invite them back to talk to the members to kind of show what they&#8217;ve been doing. When we talked to the other Impacts, both the organization that got the money and the women love that. Love when they come back and say, &#8220;Here&#8217;s where your money went. Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening with your money.&#8221; Because the organizations are as excited as we are about getting the money and about what&#8217;s happening. It&#8217;s really a win-win for everybody. We all get to feel good about where our money went; we get to see where it went, and you get actually to meet some of the people you helped, so it&#8217;s pretty exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: I&#8217;m a big lover of what I call the ‘frontline experience,&#8217; I don&#8217;t know what else you&#8217;d call it, but I love seeing capital go to work and then being able to walk into that organization locally and have some eyeball time with the folks that received it. There&#8217;s something about wrapping a relationship around the people connection, in addition to the capital, that&#8217;s amazing to me.</p>
<p>Ginny: Absolutely and in some of the Impacts, there are people who have gotten multiple grant awards. Most of the Impacts, and we&#8217;ve done the same thing, won&#8217;t let you get back-to-back years of awards to make sure that it&#8217;s being spread around the community but when they come back and show what they project did, they often develop relationships with these women and yeah, they get another chance in a couple of years to try again and do another project.</p>
<p>Romy: Alright, and I would assume some of them are getting outside support. In the traditional investment world, we call it side pocket, additional money going around the side into the organization.</p>
<p>Ginny: Absolutely.</p>
<p>Romy: It&#8217;s probably the same concept with donations, right?</p>
<p>Ginny: Oh. One of the things that some of the organizations do is, at the final awards dinner where we all make the vote, the finalists will come in and give a quick presentation to everybody, and then we vote on who&#8217;s going to get the final grant, but one of the things they typically do is also put a paper together on the wants and needs of all of the finalists. If your finalist doesn&#8217;t win the big grant, you still see what it is they need to help them. They said it&#8217;s amazing how much they get then from these women who go out and organize a group to get them what they need. I like them, they didn&#8217;t win, but they still win. At the end of the day, they win, because they get so much exposure.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. My little reporting admin bells are getting triggered here; I want to do impact reporting on that.</p>
<p>Ginny: There you go.</p>
<p>Romy: Was there anything that you thought, &#8220;Wow, now that&#8217;s an interesting outcome that you didn&#8217;t see &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ginny: Sure. I think I&#8217;m going to have even more surprises when we get to the point of really getting into the applications and the grant but in this first year what I&#8217;m finding that has shocked me is the young generation and how much they give and how much they&#8217;re involved. We have an interesting story on how our board got formed. Myself retired, so not young, and another lady who&#8217;s a couple of years younger than me, still working, we got together and decided we should get this started so, of course, when we formed the board we went out to women we know and started gathering some people, so they&#8217;re close to our age.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met some great women I would&#8217;ve never met otherwise but then a young lady by the name of Jessi Bell, who had lived in Pensacola, moved up here with her husband, she is very young, has young children, like babies, and she decided she wanted to start an Impact100. I couldn&#8217;t imagine I would&#8217;ve ever done that at that age, right? It&#8217;s just fascinating. She contacted Wendy Steele, and we had already done that so she introduced us, we met up, and now Jessi and some her friends and counterparts are on our board as well. We have this real mix of ages on the board, which is great.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re finding this energy among the young people that&#8217;s just, the older ones of us talk about it, it&#8217;s just amazing. One lady joined, she&#8217;s twenty-four I think, barely out of school but she&#8217;s willing to put down a thousand dollars because she wants to be part of it and wants to be part of a community and be part of what&#8217;s going on. She just moved here about a year ago.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow.</p>
<p>Ginny: It&#8217;s fascinating to see how excited and how involved these young people are.</p>
<p>Romy: We field most of the questions about impact investing actually from the millennial demographic. Then I&#8217;d say it skips in the middle and then more of the about to be retired or retired. It is extraordinary; it&#8217;s most of our calls and emails that come in. I agree with you. Especially the last two years, I&#8217;ve noticed an eagerness to get involved with their capital and their time. They want the frontline experience just like I said; they don&#8217;t want to send it off to some black hole, and it go through several layers of who&#8217;s deciding where it goes. They&#8217;re particular that their money has an impact, which they can witness or an accountable reporting on it.</p>
<p>Ginny: Absolutely, they are huge volunteers. Because a lot of the older women are so involved in careers or families that are playing sports and them, just don&#8217;t have a lot of time to give. These younger women are finding the time, and it&#8217;s amazing to me because, at that age, I think my generation was quite different. Not that we didn&#8217;t do anything, but these women are involved, and you&#8217;re right, they want to see where their money goes; they want to be part of where the money goes. It&#8217;s fascinating because they&#8217;re volunteering to help with all the stuff, and not only do they volunteer to help but they really help. They really dig in, and they do a lot of good work.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, you reminded me of something else that I&#8217;m witnessing with this age group is that they don&#8217;t necessarily need the PR or the title there, they don&#8217;t need to be the one on camera if you will. They&#8217;re willing to be collaborative behind the scenes and get network type stuff done. It&#8217;s encouraging to me.</p>
<p>Ginny: I agree. Many of them have careers, and they&#8217;re focused on careers, but this is another part of their life that they&#8217;re really focused on, that it&#8217;s exciting to see how they are. It&#8217;s encouraging because you always hear the millennial, they&#8217;re lazier, they&#8217;re this, you hear these things, but it&#8217;s just not the case.</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, well that&#8217;s good. I&#8217;ll keep going so we capture some of the other elements here. What is a couple of the initiatives that rely on your heart right now? Could you talk about what your goals are and your initiatives for the membership right now?</p>
<p>Ginny: Sure. We got a hundred members we were looking for this year, which we&#8217;re really excited about because we didn&#8217;t have a lot of time. Next year we&#8217;d love to get closer to two hundred or more. We&#8217;d love to start to compete with Pensacola and Baldwin County and Cincinnati. We&#8217;re starting to, right now, we&#8217;ll take applications for 2017, again, it&#8217;s going to be a thousand dollars and the full thousand will go to the grant in &#8217;17. Anybody who joins today won&#8217;t get to vote on this year&#8217;s grant. A hundred women who gave for this year, they&#8217;re the only ones who get to vote for this year&#8217;s grant, but you&#8217;ll get to be able to vote in &#8217;17.</p>
<p>Also by joining now, you&#8217;ll get invited to everything we do. We even have social events ongoing, which is one of the benefits here, I think, just meeting the different women at some of these events has been tremendous for me, anyway, and I think for everybody. It&#8217;s been really a great side thing on this whole thing just meeting all these people. If you join now you get invited to everything that&#8217;s going on, you just simply can&#8217;t vote at the end of the year, this year. We&#8217;d love to compete up against some of the big guns and really get Oakland County a lot of money.</p>
<p>Romy: How do they sign up? Would they just go to your website, Ginny?</p>
<p>Ginny: Yeah, the best thing is to go to our website which is <a href="http://Impact100OaklandCounty.org">Impact100OaklandCounty.org</a>. If you go there, everything&#8217;s there that you need. We also have an email address which is <a href="mailto:Impact100OC@gmail.com">Impact100OC@gmail.com</a>. People are always welcome to contact me directly, as well. The easiest way to get me is probably on my email which is <a href="mailto:GinnyFisch@comcast.net">GinnyFisch@comcast.net</a>. They&#8217;re welcome to any of those three ways, and we will get back with them immediately.</p>
<p>Romy: Okay, great. By the way, we&#8217;ll put that on the show notes on the website with your episode so they can link through directly. How about the second initiative about projects?</p>
<p>Ginny: This year, because I think there was a lack of time maybe, we probably didn&#8217;t get the word out to all the nonprofits in Oakland County, and we&#8217;d like to hit everyone and get everybody a chance to apply. Know that in &#8217;17; we&#8217;ll be giving out at least one grant of a hundred thousand and hopefully more and so I&#8217;d love all the nonprofits to start thinking about what kind of projects they could do in Oakland County that would use that kind of money so that they&#8217;re ready to apply next spring. Any nonprofit who has questions can contact us now, and we&#8217;ll answer questions, we&#8217;ll invite you to events, we&#8217;ll let you meet some of the women right now so that you can start to get ready for next year.</p>
<p>Romy: Now, can the applicants apply for any use that goes with their social mission? Could it be for working capital, for example, or does it have to be designated for a specific purpose?</p>
<p>Ginny: We have all the rules, if you will, on our website. We don&#8217;t want to give money just to ongoing processes or ongoing operating expenses. What we&#8217;re looking for is a project so think a specific project, and it needs to impact, I&#8217;m trying to think of the word we use, I think...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-ginny-fischbach-of-impact100-on-impact-investing-inglenook]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1709</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/af041095-a7f6-4e37-8a6f-037550da0653/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:30:48 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/31b7a796-d1ab-48ac-b096-011c0c52ff69/ginnyfischbachfullmixdown.mp3" length="40796321" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews the founder of Impact 100 Oakland County (Michigan), Ginny Fischbach. What happens when 100 women put $1000 each together for a community good?</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Noam Kimelman of Fresh Corner Cafe#57</title><itunes:title>S2: Noam Kimelman of Fresh Corner Cafe#57</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Detroit-based founder, Noam Kimelman of  Fresh Corner Cafe</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Noam Kimelman on his venture Fresh Corner Cafe in Detroit.  They also discuss his non-profit partner, Detroit Food Academy, and the motivation of the youth in the city of Detroit!  Noam is  a very intelligent and engaging guest. Great Detroit artist at the end of the episode to round out another great show!</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise show! This is Romy, and I hope this interview inspires you. I interviewed Noam Kimelman from Fresh Corner Cafe and Detroit Food Academy. Noam shares about the genesis of Fresh Corner Cafe and what is moving his heart these days. I want to get right to is because it is busting with wisdom. He has a soft-spoken nature and a big giant heart for the kids of Detroit. Be sure to stay tuned to end so you can enjoy another great song by Detroit artist, Griz.<br />
Okay, here is a portion of my interview with Noam Kimelman.</p>
<p>Romy: Noam, let&#8217;s talk about Fresh Corner Café.</p>
<p>Noam: Fresh Corner Café is a mission-driven food service provider working to increase access to healthy foods in Detroit. We started off by looking at the landscape and hearing a lot about what was once called the Urban Food Desert, now more often called the Urban Food Swamp because there is quite a number of food options, but a lot of really unhealthy food options. There was a lot of talk about a lack of access to grocery stores, and there was this report that came out that spoke about how the physical proximity to healthy food retail versus unhealthy food retail, and how that was one of the highest indicators of diet-related disease and obesity. Just the mere fact, controlling for education, income level, race, and all the other possible confounding factors, just the mere proximity from one person to a fresh grocery store, versus a fast food restaurant or a corner store, had a big effect on their health.</p>
<p>We looked at that, and we thought, &#8220;Why does it need to be that way?&#8221; I spent some time in Argentina when I was in college, and the corner stores were not the way we think of corner stores here. They were abounding with fresh produce; they were community centers; they were these really wholesome, healthy places to feed your family and to feed yourself. In Detroit, and I think in most of America, gas stations and corner stores are entirely the opposite. It&#8217;s ways to get a quick fix of sugar and processed junk to keep you feeling bad and unhealthy.</p>
<p>We looked at the model, and we thought, &#8220;Why does a gas station and corner store have to be an unhealthy food retail location? Couldn&#8217;t it be a healthy food retail location?&#8221; If you could figure out a sustainable model to get healthy foods into corner stores and gas stations, now you have 1,000 new healthy food retailers that are literally on every single corner in]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Detroit-based founder, Noam Kimelman of  Fresh Corner Cafe</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Noam Kimelman on his venture Fresh Corner Cafe in Detroit.  They also discuss his non-profit partner, Detroit Food Academy, and the motivation of the youth in the city of Detroit!  Noam is  a very intelligent and engaging guest. Great Detroit artist at the end of the episode to round out another great show!</p>
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<p><strong>Full Transcript:</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise show! This is Romy, and I hope this interview inspires you. I interviewed Noam Kimelman from Fresh Corner Cafe and Detroit Food Academy. Noam shares about the genesis of Fresh Corner Cafe and what is moving his heart these days. I want to get right to is because it is busting with wisdom. He has a soft-spoken nature and a big giant heart for the kids of Detroit. Be sure to stay tuned to end so you can enjoy another great song by Detroit artist, Griz.<br />
Okay, here is a portion of my interview with Noam Kimelman.</p>
<p>Romy: Noam, let&#8217;s talk about Fresh Corner Café.</p>
<p>Noam: Fresh Corner Café is a mission-driven food service provider working to increase access to healthy foods in Detroit. We started off by looking at the landscape and hearing a lot about what was once called the Urban Food Desert, now more often called the Urban Food Swamp because there is quite a number of food options, but a lot of really unhealthy food options. There was a lot of talk about a lack of access to grocery stores, and there was this report that came out that spoke about how the physical proximity to healthy food retail versus unhealthy food retail, and how that was one of the highest indicators of diet-related disease and obesity. Just the mere fact, controlling for education, income level, race, and all the other possible confounding factors, just the mere proximity from one person to a fresh grocery store, versus a fast food restaurant or a corner store, had a big effect on their health.</p>
<p>We looked at that, and we thought, &#8220;Why does it need to be that way?&#8221; I spent some time in Argentina when I was in college, and the corner stores were not the way we think of corner stores here. They were abounding with fresh produce; they were community centers; they were these really wholesome, healthy places to feed your family and to feed yourself. In Detroit, and I think in most of America, gas stations and corner stores are entirely the opposite. It&#8217;s ways to get a quick fix of sugar and processed junk to keep you feeling bad and unhealthy.</p>
<p>We looked at the model, and we thought, &#8220;Why does a gas station and corner store have to be an unhealthy food retail location? Couldn&#8217;t it be a healthy food retail location?&#8221; If you could figure out a sustainable model to get healthy foods into corner stores and gas stations, now you have 1,000 new healthy food retailers that are literally on every single corner in Detroit. That could really address the proximity issue for people to healthy food retail versus unhealthy food retail.</p>
<p>We spent a few years trying to tackle that problem. Within the first year, we were in 45 gas stations and corner stores. We grew really quickly; we were really excited. We got a lot of press; we got a lot of pats on the back, but what we found out once we settled down and looked at the numbers is that we were losing about $7,000 a month just servicing these gas stations and corner stores.</p>
<p>A great model if you&#8217;re non-profit, maybe, and you think about the dollar invested per healthy meal sold. We were trying to function as an L3C, which is a Limited Low-Profit Liability Corporation. We were really intent on trying to make this work without grant support so that we could prove the sustainability of the model.</p>
<p>That was the first few years and quickly realized that that was not going to sustain itself as a business, and we started thinking about other ways that we could support the business. We developed some more profitable revenue streams like a strong catering business and a workplace wellness business. Those profits started to come in and helped support the work in corner stores and gas stations, but we were still just losing too much money to sustain those corner stores on their own.</p>
<p>We started looking at other models and thinking, &#8220;If it&#8217;s not the corner store or the gas station, what other places do people naturally aggregate, where there&#8217;s a natural flow of people who are moving through a space that might be interested in finding healthy food, but there&#8217;s none available to them?&#8221; We started looking at community centers such as schools or rec centers, and thinking about times when there&#8217;s a natural flow of people such as after school when parents are picking up their children, or the local recreation center where after yoga class, after Zumba Class, after a cooking class, and you have a group of 20 or 30 people who are hanging around, looking for some food. Whereas they could go to the nearest food retailer, which is a fast food restaurant most likely, in Detroit. What if we put healthy food in that same spot?</p>
<p>We started this pop-up program called Fresh Corner Pop-ups. We set up a table, and we stack it up with healthy pre-packaged meals like salads, fruit cups, wraps, and yogurt parfaits. We&#8217;d sell them for about an hour and just wanted to see what would happen. We tried it in one school called Detroit Achievement Academy, after school about <span>[3:00]</span> on a Tuesday, and we sold about 40 or 50 meals in an hour. In the meantime, we&#8217;d been selling about 30 meals a week at a gas station.</p>
<p>We were thinking, &#8220;Oh my gosh! This is so much more effective!&#8221; We were able to skip the middle-man retailer, so rather than sell the salad for $3.00 to the retailer, and the retailer sells it for $4.00 to $5.00 to the customer, why not just sell it directly to the customer for $3.00, and see if that subsidy or price-break makes a difference? It clearly did, and we think the proximity piece of going to them rather than going to a gas station and trying to change the gas station model to be more accommodating towards fresh food, bring fresh food into a community space where people are expecting positive, fresh things to be present.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re really excited about the results there. Now this is a model that we&#8217;re really actively growing. We&#8217;re hoping to be in 88 community centers every single week, across seven counties. We&#8217;re not only going to have freshly prepared meals, but we&#8217;re also combining with another local non-profit called Peaches and Greens, and they&#8217;re going to be providing the fresh produce. It&#8217;ll have this mini-pop-up market for about an hour or two every single week in each of these community centers.</p>
<p>Romy: You&#8217;re touching on one of my absolute favorite things about pop-ups. I think a couple of years ago, we had said, &#8220;Hey, why don&#8217;t you do a pop-up? Before people like you having success, there was this bit of a &#8211; almost a stigma with it. Like, &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;ve got to have this brick and mortar space that&#8217;s amazing or people won&#8217;t come.&#8221; Will you talk to me a little bit about your discovery of what you&#8217;re finding because obviously there&#8217;s a reduction in labor costs if you&#8217;re only there for an hour or two? Are you finding that you had any of that stigma associated with it?</p>
<p>Noam: Great question. I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve seen a stigma. I&#8217;m thinking about the pop-up and how sometimes people are afraid to test ideas. I think it&#8217;s sometimes because they&#8217;re afraid it won&#8217;t work, and they&#8217;re afraid to find that out so early. They&#8217;d rather find that out a few years down the road. As someone who has found that out a few years down the road, I&#8217;d much prefer to find it up-front. Yeah, I think testing as quickly and as early as possible is really the best way to go.</p>
<p>As far as stigma around the actual pop-up with food, I think people have been mostly receptive. I think if we tried to charge community centers to bring this model to them, I think that would&#8217;ve never worked. In some cases, community centers ask us for a percentage of the revenue. We come back saying we&#8217;re already subsidizing it to such a low price that it just wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I did leave something out. I keep mentioning the subsidized prices. A $3.00 salad is the same salad that we sell at our catering business and in our workplace wellness business for between $6.00 and $8.00. We still have about a 20% margin, just from a pure cost-of-goods perspective, but when you think about labor and everything that goes into operating the pop-up, it does require a subsidy to continue selling those salads for $3.00.</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;re starting to look at this social enterprise model, and not just strictly for profit, but can we leverage foundation support, grant support, and even corporate sponsorship support to make the case of this is the best return on your investment. You can invest say, $10,000 with us, and we can increase X-amount of meals sold in a dignified, positive way to the community. I think it&#8217;s even a cheaper rate than if you were donating canned goods to the community.</p>
<p>Romy: Without all the toxins. Yes!</p>
<p>Noam: Yeah, much better food, in a much more dignified way.</p>
<p>Romy: Will you touch on Peaches and Greens for just a second, for those folks that aren&#8217;t in the Detroit area?</p>
<p>Noam: Sure. Peaches and Greens is a really excellent non-profit. It&#8217;s under a non-profit called Central Detroit Christian, and they own about seven different businesses. Peaches and Greens is one of these businesses. It&#8217;s in the North End, which is a neighborhood just north of the Midtown/downtown area. It&#8217;s a small neighborhood green grocer. They&#8217;ve been around since, I think, 2009, and they were actually one of the first people to pilot the mobile grocery truck on wheels.</p>
<p>They retro-fitted an ice cream truck; they put some produce in it; they went around the neighborhood; they had a jingle, and people would come outside of their house and get fresh produce. The Obamas visited them to herald this is one of the first times that someone tried this kind of model. Now, they still have that going. They&#8217;re still a neighborhood green grocer. They&#8217;re doing excellent work in the community, getting healthy food out into their specific neighborhood in North End, Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy: Cool. I love seeing us all supporting each other. It helps them that you&#8217;re buying your produce from them.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s shift gears a little bit. I know that you even took this one step further and opened up a non-profit. Could you talk to us about that?</p>
<p>Noam: Sure. In 2010, I started the business called Fresh Corner Café. In about 2011, working on this business, failing from a financial perspective, losing all this money every month, and thinking about how to increase access to healthy food. In the meantime, someone invites me to help facilitate an after-school program in southwest Detroit at Cesar Chavez High School. There wasn&#8217;t really a strong focus on the program. It was just around food. Let&#8217;s talk about food with high school students. There&#8217;s a lot of conversation around food today, let&#8217;s see what they think about food.</p>
<p>The first class, we opened up a discussion, and there&#8217;s all this conversation about how the food in their cafeteria is horrible; the food in their neighborhood is horrible, and they don&#8217;t feel that they have access to good, high-quality, healthy food. Throughout the semester, we were talking more and more. We introduced some cooking lessons. At the end of the semester, we said, &#8220;What would you like to do with food in your community, whether it&#8217;s your school, your neighborhood? What can we do about it?&#8221;</p>
<p>By the end of the semester, they decide to develop a Mango-on-a-Stick Stand. Their own recipe &#8211; they put a mango, they put it right onto a stick; they put some chile and limon on it, and they sell it in their high school cafeteria for two hours. The sold over 150 mangoes for $1.50 a piece in their high school cafeteria to their peers. These are high school students who we say don&#8217;t want to eat healthily; all they want is the Hot Cheetos, but we really see the traffic from the Hot Cheetos vending machine directly diverted to our Mango-on-a-Stick Stand.</p>
<p>You had these students going in circles in the line, coming back for 2 or 3 Mangoes-on-a-Stick, and pulling out cash from who knows where. We thought that these kids don&#8217;t have money to spend. They were so excited about it. Our students, even more excitingly, were just so excited about their ability to have an impact in their own community, and just the excitement about learning how to put an idea into action.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting here scratching my head, and I&#8217;m thinking, &#8220;I&#8217;ve got a Masters Degree in Public Health. I&#8217;ve studied this stuff. I should be able to figure out healthy food access. I&#8217;m banging my head against the wall, and these kids put a mango on a stick, and they make more money than I make in a few weeks in a gas station.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at this. This is really something powerful. What can we do with this? One thing led to another, and we developed this non-profit called The Detroit Food Academy, along with two other co-founders. The Food Academy is now in 10 different high schools; it&#8217;s an after-school program. We work with 250 students. It&#8217;s a year-round curriculum where students learn how to build their own good food business, and use that good food business to affect the health of their school and their community. Through that process, they learn about business basics; they learn about cooking; they learn about nutrition, and more importantly, they just learn about leadership and how to put an idea into action.</p>
<p>This summer, 25 of those students are employed to actually take their business and run it at farmer&#8217;s markets throughout the city, including Eastern Market, which is the main farmer&#8217;s market in the city. The products that go through the summer program, the cream of the crop, the ones that we think we can do something with rising into this umbrella brand called Small Batch Detroit.</p>
<p>Small Batch Detroit is this heading for all the products that our students create. The inaugural product called The Mitten Bite, which is this all-natural snack bar that our students created at Cody High School in 2012, is now in Whole Foods. It&#8217;s with a contract with the airport; we have a contract with Marriott, and we&#8217;re going to be in retailers all across southeast Michigan, and even beyond.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re just so excited with that product. Students are employed in every single step of the process, from the manufacturing to help with the design, and to demoing and sampling in stores. On top of the wages that go to the students, all profits go directly back to the non-profit and then support the educational programming in high schools throughout the city. Through that process where we were sampling and demoing products all the time-</p>
<p>Noam: Through that process where we are sampling and demo-ing products all the time in different stores. A number of other business owners have seen our students handing out samples in Wholefoods, and they say, &#8220;Hey, can we employ your students to run our demo stands.&#8221; We thought, wow, now we&#8217;re really onto something, we want to teach these students about communication, persuasive communication, how to make a pitch, and we think this is a great experience for our students. Now we have a new service where we work with local business owners, and we hire our students to work with their businesses to demo their products in stores. We have over ten businesses now that employ our students. We are employing I think, 11 students total right now, almost full time throughout the summer at $12.50 per hour or more.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh my goodness.</p>
<p>Noam: Yeah, really exciting.</p>
<p>Romy: There&#8217;s so much social impact here.</p>
<p>Noam: Yeah. It&#8217;s a lot of ripples.</p>
<p>Romy: What&#8217;s the one on your heart when we talk about social mission and social impact, because we got employment, encouragement. What&#8217;s the one you&#8217;d say that I like to say, lights you up when you see it happen?</p>
<p>Noam: Yeah, I think there&#8217;re two things there. One is, I know when I started my business, sort of in the middle of a masters degree, I thought I have about six years of higher education, and here I am starting this business and I feel like I haven&#8217;t really learned a thing about the world and how to get things done, after having this year or two of starting my business. I just remember thinking, wow, I wish I got this earlier in my life, maybe I&#8217;d be so much further along. I&#8217;m very happy with where I am now, it&#8217;s great, too. I was thinking like that the earlier you start with how to turn an idea into reality and how to actually get things done, and also learning becomes so much more sticky when you&#8217;re learning to actually apply immediately because you&#8217;re learning it for a purpose. Thinking about that&#8217;s really an exciting possibility, but even more so, when I was in high school I was maybe like a straight B student, which was fine, but I&#8217;d say I went to a private Jewish day school, a very high performing school.</p>
<p>The kids mostly go to ivy league schools; I went to the University of Michigan, which is considered okay. Just thinking, if I was, say, a mediocre student in my high school and I didn&#8217;t go to a really nice private Jewish day school, and I went to pretty much any school in Detroit, and I was just a mediocre student, I would have so few opportunities to continue getting ahead. If I made one mistake, so many doors just instantly close. I think that young people in Detroit just aren&#8217;t allowed to make mistakes. They aren&#8217;t given that opportunity, and I think...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-noam-kimelman-of-fresh-corner-cafe]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1732</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/3fdbccc3-5a21-455b-bf66-a1b8f749bf70/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:35:30 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6ee45a6b-c9f2-4b6b-b8df-51b916082c5f/noamfullmixdown.mp3" length="43875969" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Noam Kimelman on his venture Fresh Corner Cafe in Detroit.  They also discuss his non-profit partner, Detroit Food Labs, and the motivation of the youth in the city of Detroit!  Noam is  a very intelligent and engaging guest. Great Detroit artist at the end of the episode to round out another great show!   Noam shares his great wisdom on pop-ups and the youth innovation with food!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Chelsea Koglmeier of O.R.O. – Jessica Robinson of Bonfires on the Move! #56</title><itunes:title>S2: Chelsea Koglmeier of O.R.O. – Jessica Robinson of Bonfires on the Move! #56</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Chelsea Koglmeier of O.R.O.  on Bonfires on the Move</strong></p>
<p>Jessica Robinson, our mobility expert, interviews Chelsea Koglmeier of Bicycles O.R.O.</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Koglmeier.jpg"></a></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Chelsea Koglmeier, founder of Bikes ORO, joins us on this episode for a conversation about bicycles as a vehicle for social change. Her own product is a bicycle that’s thoughtfully designed with inspired simplicity and beautiful utility to make riding simple and fun. By partnering with World Bicycle Relief, she has also built a social mission into the core of the company, proving that bikes can be engines of social and economic change for people globally, enabling kids to get to school, families to access professional opportunities, and anyone to reach quality health clinics.</span></p>
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<p><b>Program Links</b></p>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bikes ORO: </span><a href="http://www.bikesoro.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://www.bikesoro.com/</span></a></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">World Bicycle Relief: </span><a href="http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/</span></a></li>
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<p><strong><span style="font-weight: 400;">United Nations Girl Up SchoolCycle: </span><a href="https://girlup.org/schoolcycle/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://girlup.org/schoolcycle/</span></a></strong></p>
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<p><strong>More Links </strong></p>
<p>Jump over to the website for the podcast at <a href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com </a></p>
<p>Give us a question to the mailbag!</p>
<p>Find us on Facebook and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/bonfirespodcast">@bonfirespodcast</a></p>
<p>Our Blog and Content <a href="http://gingrasglobal.squarespace.com">gingrasglobal.squarespace.com</a></p>
<p>Find more about Gingras Global at <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> and <a href="http://www.gingrasglobalgroups.com">www.gingrasglobalgroups.com</a>  and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/gingrasglobal">Facebook of Gingras Global</a> and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gingrasglobal">@gingrasglobal</a></p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Chelsea Koglmeier of O.R.O.  on Bonfires on the Move</strong></p>
<p>Jessica Robinson, our mobility expert, interviews Chelsea Koglmeier of Bicycles O.R.O.</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Koglmeier.jpg"></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Chelsea Koglmeier, founder of Bikes ORO, joins us on this episode for a conversation about bicycles as a vehicle for social change. Her own product is a bicycle that’s thoughtfully designed with inspired simplicity and beautiful utility to make riding simple and fun. By partnering with World Bicycle Relief, she has also built a social mission into the core of the company, proving that bikes can be engines of social and economic change for people globally, enabling kids to get to school, families to access professional opportunities, and anyone to reach quality health clinics.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>Program Links</b></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bikes ORO: </span><a href="http://www.bikesoro.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://www.bikesoro.com/</span></a></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">World Bicycle Relief: </span><a href="http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://www.worldbicyclerelief.org/</span></a></li>
</ul><br/><br/>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: 400;">United Nations Girl Up SchoolCycle: </span><a href="https://girlup.org/schoolcycle/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://girlup.org/schoolcycle/</span></a></strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>More Links </strong></p>
<p>Jump over to the website for the podcast at <a href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com </a></p>
<p>Give us a question to the mailbag!</p>
<p>Find us on Facebook and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/bonfirespodcast">@bonfirespodcast</a></p>
<p>Our Blog and Content <a href="http://gingrasglobal.squarespace.com">gingrasglobal.squarespace.com</a></p>
<p>Find more about Gingras Global at <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> and <a href="http://www.gingrasglobalgroups.com">www.gingrasglobalgroups.com</a>  and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/gingrasglobal">Facebook of Gingras Global</a> and Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gingrasglobal">@gingrasglobal</a></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-chelsea-koglmeier-of-bicycles-oro-jessica-robinson-of-bonfires-on-the-move]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1706</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bf4c68da-ed83-4d45-b521-b6bc81e781c3/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2016 07:00:48 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/188f470b-c854-48b7-acab-f99a8436880f/chelseakoglmeierfull.mp3" length="49669360" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Chelsea Koglmeier, Founder of Bikes ORO, joins us on this episode for a conversation about bicycles as a vehicle for social change. Her own product is a bicycle that’s thoughtfully designed with inspired simplicity and beautiful utility to make riding simple and fun. By partnering with World Bicycle Relief, she has also built a social mission into the core of the company, proving that bikes can be engines of social and economic change for people globally, enabling kids to get to school, families to access professional opportunities, and anyone to reach quality health clinics.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Impact Investing Inglenook with Tom Doescher #55</title><itunes:title>S2: Impact Investing Inglenook with Tom Doescher #55</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 2: Impact Investing Inglenook with Tom Doescher #55</strong></p>
<p>Romy catches Impact Investor,  Tom Doescher, for an interesting conversation on how he thinks about laser outcomes of creating and keeping jobs, the opportunity for impact in Flint and why advisor support is so critical in impact investing. Tom leaves the conversation with great advice for people transitioning from traditional careers to supporting impact investing as a second stage career.  Listen to the great artist, Eryn Allen Kane, and her song, Sunday, to close the episode.</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome to the Impact Investing Inglenook of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise Show. This is our first Impact Investing segment of Season 2, and we plan to publish monthly.<br />
Now, I am going to be a little disruptive here to some of the impact investing conversations. While financial capital is critical in impact investing, it is certainly not the end all and be all solution. You see, a truth I have come to understand is that without people support in the form of skill building, advice, brainstorming, networking, it is almost impossible for the social enterprise to succeed. I am not saying that it can’t happen. What I am saying is this: I have watched capital placed into social impact ventures over and over again for the last five years. My truth is this; the best outcomes are smaller dollar amounts put in over-time with high-powered people support to walk through the decision matrix of everyday business planning. So, my point here is that lending time and advice and people skills are just as important, if not more important than the money. The scenes have played out in front of me like Hollywood movies. With as much as I have witnessed, you would have thought I would have done a show on this earlier. Haha, sometimes it takes me a minute to realize it is an actual pattern.<br />
So, on this episode, you are going to meet Tom Doescher. Tom is a great friend and has been a council to our firm, Gingras Global, for a long time. I am so thankful. Tom and his wife, Barbara, use their financial capital to both support non-profit charities and impact investing. They have a long history of sharing their resources with others around the world. I have asked Tom, for this episode, to hone in on what impact investing means regarding giving your time and helping with skill-building and advice.<br />
You will learn that Tom’s focused outcome of impact investing – whether it is his time or money – is to create and sustain jobs. He is very interested in supporting the city of Flint, Michigan, specifically.<br />
And, as a treat for any of you that may be listening that are leaving a long somewhat traditional career – thinking about transitioning to support social enterprise, he gives some great tips at the end on how to navigate that transition.<br />
Okay, let’s listen in to my interview with Tom Doescher.<br />
Tom Doescher : My business background is I was a partner in a consulting firm for over 40 years and worked in the last 20 years with manufacturing in businesses, auto suppliers, and built a very substantial practice and really loved working with businesses. On a personal side, Barbara and I led over 30 mission trips all over the world and we did medical teams, construction, children's ministry, and other sundry activities so that was the other...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 2: Impact Investing Inglenook with Tom Doescher #55</strong></p>
<p>Romy catches Impact Investor,  Tom Doescher, for an interesting conversation on how he thinks about laser outcomes of creating and keeping jobs, the opportunity for impact in Flint and why advisor support is so critical in impact investing. Tom leaves the conversation with great advice for people transitioning from traditional careers to supporting impact investing as a second stage career.  Listen to the great artist, Eryn Allen Kane, and her song, Sunday, to close the episode.</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome to the Impact Investing Inglenook of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise Show. This is our first Impact Investing segment of Season 2, and we plan to publish monthly.<br />
Now, I am going to be a little disruptive here to some of the impact investing conversations. While financial capital is critical in impact investing, it is certainly not the end all and be all solution. You see, a truth I have come to understand is that without people support in the form of skill building, advice, brainstorming, networking, it is almost impossible for the social enterprise to succeed. I am not saying that it can’t happen. What I am saying is this: I have watched capital placed into social impact ventures over and over again for the last five years. My truth is this; the best outcomes are smaller dollar amounts put in over-time with high-powered people support to walk through the decision matrix of everyday business planning. So, my point here is that lending time and advice and people skills are just as important, if not more important than the money. The scenes have played out in front of me like Hollywood movies. With as much as I have witnessed, you would have thought I would have done a show on this earlier. Haha, sometimes it takes me a minute to realize it is an actual pattern.<br />
So, on this episode, you are going to meet Tom Doescher. Tom is a great friend and has been a council to our firm, Gingras Global, for a long time. I am so thankful. Tom and his wife, Barbara, use their financial capital to both support non-profit charities and impact investing. They have a long history of sharing their resources with others around the world. I have asked Tom, for this episode, to hone in on what impact investing means regarding giving your time and helping with skill-building and advice.<br />
You will learn that Tom’s focused outcome of impact investing – whether it is his time or money – is to create and sustain jobs. He is very interested in supporting the city of Flint, Michigan, specifically.<br />
And, as a treat for any of you that may be listening that are leaving a long somewhat traditional career – thinking about transitioning to support social enterprise, he gives some great tips at the end on how to navigate that transition.<br />
Okay, let’s listen in to my interview with Tom Doescher.<br />
Tom Doescher : My business background is I was a partner in a consulting firm for over 40 years and worked in the last 20 years with manufacturing in businesses, auto suppliers, and built a very substantial practice and really loved working with businesses. On a personal side, Barbara and I led over 30 mission trips all over the world and we did medical teams, construction, children's ministry, and other sundry activities so that was the other part of our life.</p>
<p>Really as we were looking at what we call our next season, we said "What do we feel that we're being called to do?" Believe it or not we melded together our business activities with our ministry activities because really we're all about helping businesses create job. We have to have profits to have jobs, but our real focus is on creating jobs as it relates to helping people here locally say in Flint, I don't know what I can do for someone that needs a job. If I can help a businesshere be successful and be a good employer and create jobs, then I've fulfilled my mission.</p>
<p>Barbara and I started together in Doescher Advisers. She has an assessment tool that she administers that's been very helpful with us, with working with clients, and team building et cetera. Helping young owners understand different personalities et cetera in building a stronger team.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Tom, how did you start to land and narrow it in to employment being one of your key qualifiers for your impact investing?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Again, I guess we, Barbara and I stepped back and said, "How can we have our greatest impact in this next what we call, this next season of our life?" We felt that it was really jobs wherever we were at would be getting for profit jobs created would be the best impact that we could have.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Why would that be if we keep going there? What does that end up meaning in your opinion if you follow that out?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Yeah, if you follow that out, kind of the way I look at it would be if you can create jobs where people ... Good jobs where employers treat their employees with respect and dignity. You have someone that does something meaningful. They feel good about themselves, they're in a wage, they pay taxes, they're able to buy a house, they pay property taxes, maybe local city taxes. They maybe are involved at their local church, maybe at a not for profit. Just the whole community is stronger if we have people employed is my point of view.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : The overall economic development of the community.</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Sustainability where they don't keep needing more right?</p>
<p>Some people view that that's pouring in to a community in the form of donations. Some people that means only investment, some people means time. How do you start to view impact investing?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : I would say that a lot of it is in our case would be time, so I'll give you a recent example. I have a new client that I've discovered is actually has financial difficulty and they employ about 40 people. They've been in business for 30 years and so when I discovered their financial situation, I elected to I'll say donate some of my time for now. I told the owner that I'm doing this for those 40 people and their jobs.</p>
<p>It's just really clear to me why I'm doing what I'm doing and it keeps going back to employment and for more people to be employed long-term in how they feel of themselves.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : I know you might not be an expert at all the data around Flint. What's your perspective on the demographic needs of Flint, why it needs impact type investing?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Flint, I'm told was one of the most affluent cities in the United States back in the 40s and 50s, and maybe even into the 60s. We all know that General Motors who used to have 60% market share in the US is now down to I don't know 21% or something like that. All of those jobs that used to be in Flint disappeared and people that could move somewhere did but others were just left there. It's a very sad story of a town that was really depended on one major corporation who essentially downsized substantially because of the market.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : I've always felt that's what your specialty is this the high achievers if you will. You want to help those who are really working hard to help themselves right?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Right, exactly. They're out there and one of the things that I have observed my whole career is there's a lot of business owners that are great employers that are having huge impacts in their community but you don't even know them. You don't know their name, you don't even know what they're doing. I'm really looking for them in this community, that really what I'm all about is I want to get connected to those people which I know are out there.</p>
<p>They just don't go around pounding their chest. They're just quietly being effective and being great employers and helping their community. Most of those people are the backbone of a local charity usually, if you get into their lives. They don't go around talking, bragging about it, they just do it.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : What would be a scenario of a win when you find a typical candidate that you just described? What would be a sample of a win where you says, "Man, either my capital and my time was effective there."</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : I guess it would be where I'm wise enough to come up with some ideas that would be beneficial to them. One common idea that I have is often in a business, there's a cycle where the owner can get it to a certain size but really needs to bring in what I call a number two. A lot of times we cal lit a COO. I've been helpful in helping people see that, okay.</p>
<p>In helping them get the help they need to identify and bring in a number two person into their business so they can continue to grow. The owner can do the things they're good at and the COO can do many of the other chores that can be handled by someone like that.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Tough to make that transition from working in a business to working on the business. I think everybody battles with it when they're making a transition from a micro business to a small and then becoming a large small business. It's a tricky thing to transition too. In your opinion in those scenarios when they are at that level trying to take that next step, do they often need just skill building and advisement or do they also need capital, or does it even range depending on the situation?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : I think that's more people to me, I think the good businesses can get the capital they need, it's really the people. I just mentioned the COO concept. I also work with people on I'll call it the opposite issue which is maybe their top number two or three people in the business have outgrown the business. Maybe the owner has people that have worked for him or her for a long time where in positions that they shouldn't be in.</p>
<p>The owner is struggling because the people that I work with are very loyal to their people sometimes to a fault. I've helped them with either repositioning that person to another position inside the company or sometimes depending on the attitude of the person, they maybe need to even move out. The reason that I say that is that's a blockage for them to grow because when I think a successful business it's very simple. Just get the best people you can and things will happen.</p>
<p>If you have someone at a high position who doesn't deserve to be there, you're not going to get the best talent I'll guarantee you that. Now, you get somebody in that job who's really is an Olympic athlete using your word, they'll attract more good people and good things will happen to that business. I think it's more people. I think as I look at organizations, it's more about having how many good people, how many A-players do you have at high level in your business. Companies that have more A-players are going to do really well.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : A term that's used so much in this impact investing space, everyone anchors on a familiar parable of you can teach a man to fish. It's better to do that. As you play that out in this world of impact investing, I can say "Okay. They might know how to fish or they might have some basic skills. They do need a little capital to buy the pole maybe or little bit of equipment, their place on the lake."</p>
<p>Really from there on out, they really do need to be surrounded by experiences and others who teach them all the different techniques. That doesn't really stop, you're hitting on one of the points here in 2016 that to me is really specific about impact investing that we've figured out will last five years. Everybody thinks it's a 100% financial capital that needs to be inserted and you just got to wait a little bit to get it back. It's actually a little capital on a lot of skill- based support advisement is what we have found is really working.</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Right. I mentioning to you earlier, I just read the Elon Musk book and I didn't know much about him before I read the book. He's brilliant. What he's doing isn't just marketing. He is a scientist and so when I think of that and I think of businesses in each of the positions in your business you need to attract people that really do love and are passionate about whatever that area is.</p>
<p>If it's shop floor, if it's making this, if it's selling, having people that just love to sell, love to help customers out. That's what you're looking for is people that's just are really at the top of the class in each of their respective areas, HR. People that just love to have the right procedures, and processes, and development programs, and et cetera. When you see them in a business, you see that area of the business just thriving because you have someone that just is credibility talented and passionate about what they're doing, it's not just a job.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Do you feel Tom that any of the ... I mean you have also invested, I don't want anyone to think that you haven't. Do you find that the actual capital investment gets glamorized a little bit more than ... Let me see if I'm saying this the right way. Maybe a little bit more credit goes to them, the money contribution and the talent piece, the advisement can't get left behind?</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Yeah. It's more obvious. If I have a good idea, how does that really play in. Most people won't even know it's my idea for starters. I've had several situations with clients, again using your word Olympic athlete clients. I have a CEO who is in a buying data client and he shared the story with me and so I thought about it, I came up with a very non-traditional solution for him.</p>
<p>I even told him, I said "You're not going to like my suggestion but think about it and you do whatever you want to do." He called me up about a month later, he had taken my advice and did something that was really not the path that he would have come up with and it worked. I'm happy for him. I was happy with the joy in his voice and when he shared with me how it did in fact work but no one sees that. It's different thing, I invested a million dollars in whatever product, or company, or whatever.</p>
<p>Yeah, but it's my calling. What I'm really at peace about today is clearly my calling is to come up along side of these owners. The ones that are open to advice. As you know my recent blog series talk about in my adviser a coach. In my blog series I make the case that ... Because people want to call me a coach, and I'm not a coach, I'm an adviser, I'm a partner. I come up along side of a CEO as if I'm in it with him or her and the advice I give would be what I would do if it was me. There's risk which is part of what I like about business.</p>
<p>It's all about you don't know if you're right or wrong, you're hoping you're right. You go down a path and when you're in it together, there's a degree of camaraderie and fun about it that, "Hey, we were right," or, "Guess what, we were wrong." We'll know, we'll find out whether this is a good idea or bad because it's going to be either be successful or fail. I think some of my clients like just having me next to them as they're going through it and realizing that I understand the whole thing, I have the whole picture.</p>
<p>I had a client recently had a issue with their largest customer that was extremely sensitive and the CEO only told one person inside the company and me about it. We worked through that together. I go, "Okay, he decided to get me involved in it. I guess I must be offering something of value him." This was my conclusion.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : Yeah, you're a trusted partner, you're a great listener too.</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : Thank you.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan : About a year ago maybe a little longer now, I sat down with you and I was talking with you about these proposals I kept getting asked to write. They were large dollar amounts for the size of our business was. I think I remember telling you, remember that one of them was like a million dollars and I said, "Gosh, I'm writing this. I was writing the best presentations I thought I could make." You said something to me that was brilliant, you said, "Romy, agree to move in dollar amounts of 5,000, agree to do that next amount of work at the most."</p>
<p>It was one of the best pieces of advice you gave me, because I started getting the deals because even though they were demanding to know the price all the way until the end. When I give them the price, they'd even say, "I know that's about a million dollars Romy, just tell me what it is." When I stopped doing that, they started moving forward. At that moment, I had this light bulb about impact investing actually about that 5,000.</p>
<p>Everybody is saying, "What's the total need? What's the total need?" Often, putting all that capital at once, can sort of give the entrepreneur a whole new problem. Solving it all at once doesn't give that business owner or the team a way to walk through some of the problems that they might solve without it. Now, I have a mind sense that meeting about a year and a half ago that let's put little bit in and see what happens to the rest.</p>
<p>Because, capital changes other variables, it's not just the one that you see in front of you. I found that my biggest resources were the other skill building services that I put around it. I don't know how that will develop but I now have my brain on put capital in a little bit at a time and then put the talent around it, put the skill building, the advisement. That is what I'm witnessing is really moving the needle forward. I don't know if it's the same and other parts of the country, it's just something I'm watching right now.</p>
<p>Tom Doescher : There is we talked about money, I recognize that money is limited. By the way, whether you're big or small, there's never enough money. I love being in these meetings and I go, "Well if we were a bigger company we'd have more money." It's like you'd have bigger list of things you want to do. There is no difference. Part of it is I guess the way that I think is have a picture where we're generally heading. Then put in place some steps, I'll use the word invest money in time and then keep assessing are we going in the right direction.</p>
<p>Working it all out at the beginning, you have no idea until you actually put it in play where it's heading because it may take you as a business. If you may go somewhere that you didn't anticipate, that's even better than what you really had as your original picture. You have this big picture, call it a strategy, or whatever you want to call it, label it however you want to label so I know generally where I'm headed.</p>
<p>I know a company that went into China with a...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-impact-investing-inglenook-with-tom-doescher-55]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1694</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c8425642-9d1b-4a83-818c-c4d7de200515/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:35:42 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cf95257c-3022-4a59-b5bb-7856784074ea/tomdoescherfull.mp3" length="62849262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>43:37</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy catches Impact Investor,  Tom Doescher , for an interesting conversation on how he thinks about laser outcomes of creating and keeping jobs, the opportunity for impact in Flint and why advisor support is so critical in impact investing. Tom leaves the conversation with great advice for people transitioning from traditional careers to supporting impact investing as a second stage career.  Listen for the great artist, Eryn Allen Kane, and her song, Sunday, to close the episode.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Kari Hughes of Buy The Change in Detroit #54</title><itunes:title>S2: Kari Hughes of Buy The Change in Detroit #54</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Buy The Change</strong></p>
<p>Romy Kochan interviews Kari Hughes of Buy The Change in Detroit, Michigan.  Listen and learn about what inspired Kari to begin making a market for women entrepreneurs around the world. Kari discusses why she wanted to become a B Corporation and remain a for-profit company. She discusses the importance of acknowledging your successes over your gaps. Kari is a  woman on a mission to help make markets for inspiring women and mothers who are overcoming around the globe. A for-profit example of great social enterprise.</p>
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<p>Romy Kochan interviews Kari Hughes of Buy The Change in Detroit, Michigan.  Listen and learn about what inspired Kari to begin making a market for women entrepreneurs around the world. Kari discusses why she wanted to become a B Corporation and remain a for-profit company. She discusses the importance of acknowledging your successes over your gaps. Kari is a  woman on a mission to help make markets for inspiring women and mothers who are overcoming around the globe. A for-profit example of great social enterprise.</p>
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<p>Romy Kochan: Welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy. On this episode, we learn from Kari Hughes of Buy the Change. Buy the Change is a for-profit social enterprise in the Detroit area that helps to make a market for women entrepreneurs around the world.</p>
<p>Kari, unfortunately, lost a daughter. We didn&#8217;t spend much time discussing that in the interview here, but I can tell you that she&#8217;s dramatically empowering women while she continues to heal her own heart.</p>
<p>I believe what you&#8217;ll hear is a woman with a mission to help, a woman making a big impact. Let&#8217;s jump right in now where I&#8217;m asking Kari more about the very basics of Buy the Change.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Buy the Change is a retail company. We sell accessories and home goods that are all handmade by women in the developing world. The two main benefits, I think, that we offer are the opportunity to have income and economic opportunity for our artists and partners around the world, but also the ability for our customers to have a direct impact on the lives of women on the other side of the world.</p>
<p>I think lots of times people want to have an impact, but they don&#8217;t know how, or they aren&#8217;t sure where the money that they donate, or spend goes. Every time we sell a product, we use the profit for sure, but a majority of that money to buy another product. It results in the direct income and all of the opportunities that income brings for our partner artisans.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Let&#8217;s go right to how you got started. What originally trigger tripped your heart, as I like to say, to do this?</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: I think most of the time in life there is 100 different paths that come together in 1 point of clarity that brings you to make a decision. I had worked in public health and in the non-profit sector for many, many years and had worked as a therapist at an organization that ran a shelter for women living in domestic abuse situations.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just like all of these things that I was very focused on, women, and women&#8217;s issues and I was at a point in my life where I really had the freedom to do something that gave back at a higher level.</p>
<p>A friend recommended the book Half the Sky. It was written by Nicholas Kristof and Sheryl WuDunn and really motivated me. Their call to action was amazing. I knew I wanted to do something, but I really didn&#8217;t know how.</p>
<p>Then, I read another book called Global Girlfriend. It&#8217;s written by Stacey. I don&#8217;t even remember her last name at this point. I&#8217;m sorry. Her company is called Global Girlfriend. She documented how she did it. All of that together with my genetic wanderlust and the things that I had seen when I was traveling personally in the world, I just knew what I wanted to do.</p>
<p>I wanted to help give women opportunity. I think that every woman that I&#8217;ve met is so inspiring because of their talent for 1, but because of their resilience. They refuse to give up, and they refuse to stop hoping for better things and to have a better life for themselves and their children.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Yeah, I agree. So much of it, as you said so brilliantly and people say, &#8220;Well, I want to help teach a man to fish.&#8221; that whole parable. Very often they know how to fish really well, and they have their equipment already, but they may have barriers to a market, barriers like we&#8217;ve never seen. We can help make markets for them &#8230;</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: &#8230; which is leading to your organization.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Right, right. We made the decision to not go the non-profit route, to be a for-profit company, flat out company that had social change and empowerment. We decided to become a B Corp. I think partly because in Michigan social enterprise has been a little bit slower coming to Michigan.</p>
<p>A lot of people that we encountered didn&#8217;t have in their minds a category that was between being a profit focused for-profit company and a non-profit. We really wanted to be able to say, &#8220;There is a middle ground.&#8221; and we are part of that middle ground, that we are a woman-owned company working to empower women, but we don&#8217;t want to give grants. We&#8217;re going to run our business just like a for-profit company.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: That keeps the theme for the people you&#8217;re buying from too. It helps role model that.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Exactly, exactly.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: That is powerful. Just for the listeners who are unfamiliar with the B Corp, would you mind talking into that a little bit and for those that are not part of the US?</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: There&#8217;s a lot of terminologies involved, and it does get confusing. There is, in 30 some states now, in the United States where instead of being a C Corp, or an S Corp, or and LLC, you would be a benefit corporation. That is just your registration with the state, and it&#8217;s an IRS status.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not available in the state of Michigan where I am, but there is also something called being a certified B Corp, which is done through a non-profit organization that is called B Lab.</p>
<p>There is where you submit all of your business practices and have to document that you are working toward social change and are considering all of the stakeholders in your company from producers, to customers, to employees, and shareholders if you&#8217;re a larger company than we are, and you are taking active steps to bring maximum benefit to everyone who is involved in the process along the way.</p>
<p>We are a certified B Corp, 1 of only a few in Michigan. We have been certified as being focused on social change over profit.</p>
<p>B Lab looks at the triple bottom line, which means that they don&#8217;t think making money in your business is a bad thing, but social change has to be as important, if not more important than maximizing profit in the course of your business practices.</p>
<p>It was a super good fit for us in helping to explain to people who weren&#8217;t familiar with this practice that we did get a certification.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: While we&#8217;re on this profit and social change, this intermixing, we know that you have really got to be an Olympic athlete to pull that off. We have a lot of questions here that come into the podcast from our listeners about how do you do that initial discovery about what you really charge for your products or services?</p>
<p>That is a bit of a tricky trial and error initially. How did you, Kari, get started once you had the idea? How did you learn how to price it so that you could be self-sustainable?</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: To be fully transparent about this, I am not a champion at this. My passion was the empowering women piece. It&#8217;s been a long road of discovery and learning for me too. It&#8217;s still something that we work on all the time. I have made a lot of mistakes along the way but also gotten somethings right along the way too.</p>
<p>Because we were a self-funded startup from day 1, we didn&#8217;t have money to experiment with. I think that it&#8217;s a matter of listening to your customer and experimenting with different price points and seeing what your customer base can support and going to the highest level that you can.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that even answers the question because I&#8217;m in the learning phase. Even after five years, I would consider myself still in the learning phase about that piece of it as well.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: I think you just encouraged everybody because I think it takes a minute for 1. There&#8217;s a truth that I&#8217;ve come to understand about social enterprise, in general, is that it takes a moment because it&#8217;s a fine tuning all the time. Even if it&#8217;s a product that people are familiar with, it takes even a bit longer if you&#8217;re offering up now a product that people even haven&#8217;t heard.</p>
<p>The industry is relatively new. For Michigan, especially Midwest, there&#8217;s some very traditional values here. People are peeking around and wanting to know about it and have a heart level curiosity, but they&#8217;re still trying to figure out the math of it.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: There have been times where we tried to use a formula and just say, &#8220;Okay, what we paid the artisan for it plus what it cost us to import it and to get it here, that times 2, or that times 3. That pricing ended up being really much lower than what the market would support.</p>
<p>We found that we could go a little bit higher than that and maximize the profit that we made on that product, which would help us invest a little bit more in products that maybe we couldn&#8217;t have those kinds of margins on. We found that it just doesn&#8217;t fit any formula. We have to be flexible and put prices up sometimes and see what happens and put prices down sometimes and see what happens and go from there.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Yeah, that&#8217;s a great word. If I boil it down, every time we analyze one of these, or, we&#8217;re involved in the conversation in some way, whether it&#8217;s for our company, or for somebody else who we&#8217;re working with, it always comes down to some version of, &#8220;Okay, we&#8217;ve got human beings involved in this.&#8221; This is just not a robotic, or a tech because of their past, or their area they&#8217;re living in, or other barriers that they&#8217;re facing. Every situation, because of the human being involved in the social enterprise, makes each case different.</p>
<p>I feel like, broadly, I just want to share with everyone we&#8217;ve got to release ourselves. We&#8217;ve got to release ourselves because this is a human issue just as much as it is a business.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Right, right. One good example of that is our artisan partners in Haiti. Everything has to be brought in. Our markup is maybe only 50% of what products cost us to buy in Haiti and really know that we&#8217;re paying a fair living, not even a wage, because they don&#8217;t work for us, but a rate for those products.</p>
<p>We are going to continue to buy products from Haiti, but our profit margin for those is very, very small. Other countries, Cambodia for instance, we can do bigger markups on products that come from Cambodia and, so it all evens out.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re very aware at every step that it is. We would never say, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m sorry. We can&#8217;t work with you anymore because we can&#8217;t get a higher profit margin on the things that you make, or the wage that you need to get, or the amount you need to get per bag for us to be able to buy your products.&#8221;</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Right, or a delay. Craziest stuff can happen in their villages and all of those things that you almost have to have space for and grace.</p>
<p>1 of the things that social entrepreneurs face a lot when they are helping to make a market for a social group, like yourself, is how do you do the best market discoveries by your clients so that you&#8217;re giving them the types of quality product that they want?</p>
<p>How do you do that discovery area? Are you doing it by seeing who buys what, or are you doing any formal discovery with your potential customers?</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: We do a lot of vendor shows in the Detroit metro area. We talk to them about what they like, what they don&#8217;t like, also, just how things sell online. Over the past five years, we&#8217;ve been able to get a feel for what our customer base is drawn to. That&#8217;s very stylish, very on-trend products that also have the social benefit built in.</p>
<p>We do not and will not ever sell anything that looks like it&#8217;s made for the souvenir or travel market. We know that our customers want unique, beautiful, high-quality products that they will use for a long time and will last.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: We&#8217;re going to put your website up in the show notes here on the episode so the listeners can go right there. Let&#8217;s give them that web site right now.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: It would be www.buythechangeusa.com.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: While they might have a pen out, let&#8217;s also give them your social media places to find you.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: Website is <a href="http://www.buythechangeusa.org">BuyTheChangeUSA.org </a>  and  BuyTheChange on Pinterest, Facebook, Instagram, all, just Buy The change. That&#8217;s B-U-Y-T-H-E-C-H-A-N-G-E.</p>
<p>Can I say a little bit about the name of the company?</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Yeah, that&#8217;d be great.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: It&#8217;s obvious to me, but I found it&#8217;s not always obvious to everybody is that it&#8217;s a play on the Gandhi quote, &#8220;Be the change.&#8221; When we sat down to name the company, we had a lot of brainstorming and ideas on the table, lovely names.</p>
<p>We said, &#8220;You know what? We can make a difference in the world. Together, we can change women&#8217;s lives.&#8221; Why not just put it right out there in the name of the company that is buying these products changes lives? We decided on the name Buy the Change.</p>
<p>I think that it makes it super clear that we&#8217;re selling you something. We want it to be super clear from the very beginning that that&#8217;s how our little piece of world change is going to happen.</p>
<p>Romy Kochan: Love it. One thing I didn&#8217;t ask you about was the non-profit. You did, even though you&#8217;re a B Corp, a very for-profit focus regarding sustainability for Buy the Change. You did go ahead and set up a separate organization.</p>
<p>Kari Hughes: We did. We very much wanted to be about earned income and 1 of things that we said in our brainstorming was we won&#8217;t be giving grants. We won&#8217;t be writing for grants. The non-profit model doesn&#8217;t fit. After we did become a B Corp and started traveling and visiting women, what we saw is that they were using really old equipment, which is what was available.</p>
<p>In 2013, we made the decision to start a non-profit. The Buy the Change Foundation is a 501(c)(3). It is for the purpose of helping our partner artisans eliminate barriers to their own business success. Sometimes that is newer equipment.</p>
<p>Sometimes that&#8217;s equipment that they didn&#8217;t have before. We have paid for a roof. We had 1 group in Cambodia that worked out in a patio area. During the rainy season, they couldn&#8217;t work at all. We gave them a grant. Every time someone shops on our web store, buythechangeusa.org, or .com, we have both.</p>
<p>10% of that sale goes to our foundation, our non-profit foundation. Once a year, we put out a call to all of the women that we work with, with the help of non-profits on the ground there, so they can write and say, &#8220;I could be so much more productive if I had this, or if I could eliminate that, it would help me so much.&#8221;</p>
<p>So far, we&#8217;ve funded every request that we have received. If they had to save up from their earnings that...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-kari-hughes-of-buy-the-change]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1689</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/723c7a59-ed60-4308-a84a-ac18068c0590/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:25:38 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/002a4e91-1cec-45d2-af3e-2907cc62887d/buythechangefull.mp3" length="34672816" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:03</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy Kochan interviews Kari Hughes of Buy The Change in Detroit, Michigan.  Listen and learn about what inspired Kari to begin making a market for women entrepreneurs around the world. Kari discusses why she wanted to become a B Corporation and remain a for-profit company. She discusses the importance of acknowledging your successes over your gaps.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Vostel of Berlin #53</title><itunes:title>S2: Vostel of Berlin #53</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong> Season 2: Vostel of Berlin with Hanna Lutz</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Hanna Lutz of social enterprise Vostel in Berlin.  Vostel is an online platform matching volunteers with Berlin organizations. Hear about how they found a way to engage tourists, refugees, and everyday talented people to help their city.</p>
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<p>Hanna Lutz and Stefanie Frost of Vostel</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy:  Welcome to this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise . This is Romy and I had a chance to interview Hanna Lutz in Berlin, Germany. Vostel is an online platform designed to match up volunteers with the serving needs of some of the organizations in Berlin.</p>
<p>I found it interesting that Vostel was created out of an idea to help tourists engage in a healthier manner with the beautiful city of Berlin. As you will learn, Vostel now engages many of the refugees as volunteers.</p>
<p>Prior to the interview, Hanna and I had a chance to talk about the fact that everyone from the locals to the government officials were attempting to figure out how to have a better relationship with the tourists, and who would have thought that it would be to ask them to get involved beyond their tourism! To leave something behind in the form of serving instead of just take pictures and memories.</p>
<p>By the way, if you have never tried something like this, we suggest you attempt it. Working side by side with the local residents is a wonderful way to make lifelong relationships. And, I would note, good relationships are something we all could use more of these days.</p>
<p>So, let’s listen in to a part of my interview with Hanna Lutz of Vostel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hanna: Okay, Vostel is a social business from Berlin. It aims to connect people that want to help get involved in social, ecological and cultural projects in Berlin, but organizations and initiatives that are easy just to get involved with a few clicks. So what we do is actually show them the schedules of the different organizations that say, oh we need to help every Wednesday from nine to twelve. And so all the volunteers in our page can actually just sign up and go to the projects right away&#8230; For instance, if you were in Berlin and you would like to get involved tonight you can just type in the date of today, and you will definitely find a project where you can hop in and do valuable help.</p>
<p>Hanna: Exactly. So far it has been rather tough for people to actually find projects in Berlin.<br />
Especially if they&#8217;re non-German speakers. Just your clicks through all the websites and actually find possibilities where they can get involved without actually need to speak any German. Now they have Vostel and can easily find a bunch of projects that sometimes even need help from non‐German speakers. Yes.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow. And how did you get started with this Hanna, as the co‐founder?</p>
<p>Hanna: Like, three years ago a very good friend of mine, and me, we actually met in Canada, and we were doing our studies abroad. We did some traveling through Latin America and by this time in Berlin was a big conflict concerning the tourists because there is more and more coming and we really appreciate that. But there is a lot of people who say, oh, they just come and consume the city and really leave nothing but rubbish and noise, so to say.</p>
<p>Then we decided to create a volunteering platform that allows people that are in Berlin only short term and don&#8217;t speak German actually to get involved in the good communities and get to know the city from a different perspective. So what we did was just kind of collecting a bunch of projects that didn&#8217;t demand too many skills and didn&#8217;t demand long term commitment and didn&#8217;t demand German skills.</p>
<p>So we decided we should really build up this project, not only stay as an...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Season 2: Vostel of Berlin with Hanna Lutz</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews Hanna Lutz of social enterprise Vostel in Berlin.  Vostel is an online platform matching volunteers with Berlin organizations. Hear about how they found a way to engage tourists, refugees, and everyday talented people to help their city.</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Teamfoto-vostel.jpg"></a></p>
<p>Hanna Lutz and Stefanie Frost of Vostel</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy:  Welcome to this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise . This is Romy and I had a chance to interview Hanna Lutz in Berlin, Germany. Vostel is an online platform designed to match up volunteers with the serving needs of some of the organizations in Berlin.</p>
<p>I found it interesting that Vostel was created out of an idea to help tourists engage in a healthier manner with the beautiful city of Berlin. As you will learn, Vostel now engages many of the refugees as volunteers.</p>
<p>Prior to the interview, Hanna and I had a chance to talk about the fact that everyone from the locals to the government officials were attempting to figure out how to have a better relationship with the tourists, and who would have thought that it would be to ask them to get involved beyond their tourism! To leave something behind in the form of serving instead of just take pictures and memories.</p>
<p>By the way, if you have never tried something like this, we suggest you attempt it. Working side by side with the local residents is a wonderful way to make lifelong relationships. And, I would note, good relationships are something we all could use more of these days.</p>
<p>So, let’s listen in to a part of my interview with Hanna Lutz of Vostel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Hanna: Okay, Vostel is a social business from Berlin. It aims to connect people that want to help get involved in social, ecological and cultural projects in Berlin, but organizations and initiatives that are easy just to get involved with a few clicks. So what we do is actually show them the schedules of the different organizations that say, oh we need to help every Wednesday from nine to twelve. And so all the volunteers in our page can actually just sign up and go to the projects right away&#8230; For instance, if you were in Berlin and you would like to get involved tonight you can just type in the date of today, and you will definitely find a project where you can hop in and do valuable help.</p>
<p>Hanna: Exactly. So far it has been rather tough for people to actually find projects in Berlin.<br />
Especially if they&#8217;re non-German speakers. Just your clicks through all the websites and actually find possibilities where they can get involved without actually need to speak any German. Now they have Vostel and can easily find a bunch of projects that sometimes even need help from non‐German speakers. Yes.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow. And how did you get started with this Hanna, as the co‐founder?</p>
<p>Hanna: Like, three years ago a very good friend of mine, and me, we actually met in Canada, and we were doing our studies abroad. We did some traveling through Latin America and by this time in Berlin was a big conflict concerning the tourists because there is more and more coming and we really appreciate that. But there is a lot of people who say, oh, they just come and consume the city and really leave nothing but rubbish and noise, so to say.</p>
<p>Then we decided to create a volunteering platform that allows people that are in Berlin only short term and don&#8217;t speak German actually to get involved in the good communities and get to know the city from a different perspective. So what we did was just kind of collecting a bunch of projects that didn&#8217;t demand too many skills and didn&#8217;t demand long term commitment and didn&#8217;t demand German skills.</p>
<p>So we decided we should really build up this project, not only stay as an initiative but actually become a company. A social business and to spread the word and get bigger and get more people involved in local communities.</p>
<p>Romy: I think you fall in love with serving where you&#8217;re traveling once you&#8217;ve done that. I think there&#8217;s a way to engage with the local communities, and you get to see a different side of the community when you travel there and serve that. I love this idea. What was one of the first things that you saw as this started to happen? Because I sometimes know I come up with these big visions and dreams about how the world can be better, and I&#8217;ll try a project, and it&#8217;s wonderful, and it&#8217;s beyond my expectations of joy. What&#8217;s one of those good discoveries that you had once this started?</p>
<p>Hanna: So I think besides the fact that organizations just, suddenly see more help than before because we were now targeting a new group.</p>
<p>So…refugee help, a refugee at all those people coming from all over the world, really a great great benefit to the shelters that were searching for help because before there were only German speakers and suddenly we had people from Syria, you know from the middle east in general that were speaking Iranian, they were speaking Prussian and so on. So they were like, wow, so how did you get all those people to our organization?<br />
We&#8217;re like yeah, wow, we were just addressing people in English and not only in German, and suddenly, we found more and more people actually that could contribute.</p>
<p>Romy: You brought up the timely issue of the refugee. What role do you see? Specifically, Vostel has played there with the organizations? Is it helping the refugees adjust or are they also serving?</p>
<p>Hanna: Both. I think what I need to emphasize is that we never only focused on refugee aid.<br />
There&#8217;re many platforms that do so, but we experienced that all the other projects throughout the city, as suddenly lacking on both donations and volunteers.</p>
<p>But within the refugee topic, we discovered, and this is nothing we actually aimed for was that there is a lot of refugees themselves actually getting involved now. Because, this is just a platform where they have the possibility to find projects they can get busy with. Because, maybe I need to dive deeper into the refugee topic, but there&#8217;s so many coming.</p>
<p>And they so much want to do something. Not only sit around in shelters and waiting for the permanent permit to stay. So, volunteering gives them an opportunity actually to get busy and do something and connect with local communities too. Connect with expatriates, connect with natives and so on and, you know make friendship and feel useful, and I think this is one of the most important things you can do for them.</p>
<p>Romy: I think any time that we find ways to bring a community together. I&#8217;m always amazed and when people connect over a purpose, how amazing the relationships can become. When you line up your heart missions, and you line up things that you enjoy doing together, it&#8217;s amazing how joyful it is to work alongside someone else of another background, and I&#8217;ve learned so much doing that way. It&#8217;s become one of my absolute favorite things to do.</p>
<p>Hanna: Oh really?</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah.</p>
<p>Hanna: That&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, I&#8217;d love what you&#8217;re doing…does not sound like you&#8217;re playing favorites with whatever the hot issue is at the moment. You&#8217;re just equally putting all of the places on the platform that need help and letting people self‐match, right?</p>
<p>Hanna: Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy: Hanna, how do you guys monetize it?<br />
What is the business side of this?</p>
<p>Hanna: Hmm. This is also very interesting question and in the beginning, it really didn&#8217;t know how to get money with it. Because we didn&#8217;t want to ask the volunteers obviously, and we didn&#8217;t want to ask the organizations.</p>
<p>So it was a hard task to actually find a way how we can finance all this, but then we had a big company, like actually a world‐wide operating company coming up to us saying, okay, couldn&#8217;t you offer what you do, or what you offer to private people to offer to our employees? And we&#8217;re like, yeah of course. And so, this was actually the initiative or the starting point that we decided to build up a corporate volunteering program. And of course we organize and run big volunteering events or teams and from five to a hundred people can actually get involved and make a change.</p>
<p>Romy: Wow, so, you guys manage a whole team if they&#8217;ll come aboard? Hanna: Yes. Of course. &lt;laughter&gt;<br />
Romy: &lt;Laughter&gt; My goodness. Hey Hanna, could you tell me about your team there?</p>
<p>Hanna: Of course, like we&#8217;re still pretty little. We&#8217;re a small team. We have a guy actually doing our website. We are working closely with him. He&#8217;s such a smart person, and he really knows how to bring our ideas into IT language and then we have several freelancers supporting us with different stuff. And we always take interns in case there&#8217;s someone who wants to get involved in our company.<br />
Romy: Okay. What kind of intern would you be looking for right now?</p>
<p>Hanna: We are looking for interns that help us to actually build up the Vostel community. We now want to bring them into the physical space. That means we plan a lot of meetups where people can really connect and meet each other in person and then, develop new ideas together. Maybe even develop own projects, so they get more connected to the idea of Vostel and really inspired to spread the word.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh, okay. That&#8217;s exciting. And you know, it&#8217;s always fun to be in on the ground floor of an organization and bring new ideas and see it come into life.</p>
<p>Hanna: Exactly.</p>
<p>Romy: Would you be able to give me just, I don&#8217;t need exact numbers, but approximately how many volunteers have you engaged with since you began and maybe talk a little bit about how many organizations have used the volunteers on your platform? Both sides, maybe?</p>
<p>Hanna: Can&#8217;t tell you the exact number but it&#8217;s, from August 2015 to now, it&#8217;s about two thousand volunteers throughout Berlin that are registered on our platform. We have over fifty organizations that have registered on the website to find volunteers. And I think about one hundred projects that have been or still are provided with volunteers. And there&#8217;re new organizations signing up every day basically.<br />
Romy: If you could dream and you had the money and the resources and all those things, what would a big dream look like for you and your team?</p>
<p>Hanna: So, I think, we really like to be a small team and wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be growing our company is growing itself. But we would really like to bring Vostel to all the bigger and smaller cities in Berlin. So that even more people can get involved because it&#8217;s just so easy. Organizations register or sign up on our website and then they easily find volunteers, so this solution can be scaled, but still we need some time to do so. Because we&#8217;ve really tried to have a very close relationship to each little and big organization and initiative. So really, to make sure that both sides, volunteers, and organizations, are fully satisfied.</p>
<p>We lose track of the stuff that is happening, and we think it really needs mediators and people that do all this volunteering management. So we don&#8217;t want to give up on this position, and so we still need to learn and grow slowly. But grow eventually and really give the offer to Germany basically.<br />
Romy: Yeah, well I think today with all of the technology you can do amazing things. With smaller teams and I like that your value is in those relationships, and …</p>
<p>Hanna: Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: I&#8217;m in agreement. That&#8217;s one of the most important things to my heart too, are relationships. I think, together, we can do a lot when we come together. We were never meant to be off in isolation, but communities of people. There&#8217;s a bunch of smart folks out there.</p>
<p>Hanna: Exactly.</p>
<p>Hanna: Summarizing it.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes, well, Hanna how would, how would somebody reach you? What&#8217;s the best way?<br />
Maybe give us your website?</p>
<p>Hanna: <a href="http://www.vostel.de">www Vostel.de</a> and of course you can follow us on Twitter, it&#8217;s <a href="https://twitter.com/vostel_Berlin">@Vostel_Berlin</a>. You can follow us on Instagram; it&#8217;s Vostel Berlin. And you can just Google us and find a bunch of nice press material. Read a lot about our role in tourism sector too, and find a bunch of videos there, so you can see us live and in color.<br />
Hanna: Get a little entertainment.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh, I love it. I love it. Well, we&#8217;d love to do a little storytelling, periodically, over time, if that&#8217;s all right with you.</p>
<p>Hanna: That sounds just perfect. Thank you very much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Romy:</p>
<p>I really enjoyed interviewing Hanna. Our time together reminded me about something I just love and that is helping others. It reminds me how much a drop of serving can make a difference when you put a whole bunch of drops together!  By the way, Hanna and her team have made a difference as many of the tourists we discussed in the beginning actually serve the city now while visiting. Great job Vostel!</p>
<p>As you all know, we like to close out a song of an artist curated by Detroit’s Assemble Sound whenever we can. So, please meet Lando with his song, Tender.</p>
<p><strong>End of Transcript</strong></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-vostel-berlin-53]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1664</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/e711d2a5-b745-4f8f-92d8-08fb56571aab/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:52:56 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/11a01c87-7959-40a5-8f73-deafc4cd7a7b/vostelnew.mp3" length="24304928" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>16:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Hanna Lutz of social enterprise Vostel in Berlin.  Vostel is an online platform matching volunteers with Berlin organizations. Hear about how they found a way to engage tourists, refugees, and everyday talented people to help their city.  Episode ends with a great song by Detroit artist, Lando, and his song, Tender.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Mailbag! #52</title><itunes:title>S2: Mailbag! #52</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mailbag for May 19, 2016  </strong></p>
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<p>Time for the Mailbag!</p>
<p>Romy answers three great listener questions followed by a light-hearted full song by Tim Schumack of Detroit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Full Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Thanks for tuning into our mailbag episode. This is Romy and I will answer <strong>three</strong> of our listener questions.  Let’s get right to it…</p>
<h2>Question #1</h2>
<p>From: Melissa</p>
<p>Question: How do you pick your guests?</p>
<p>Answer: Our guest selection is somewhat process and somewhat random!</p>
<p>We are looking for primarily for guests that are social entrepreneurs but we also like to talk to those that are connected in some way.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If they are a social entrepreneur, we then look for a couple of things such as:</p>
<p>1- Do they have an enterprise going (selling some type of product or service) or plan to do so in the near future?</p>
<p>2- Is their social mission focused?</p>
<p>3- Are they willing to talk about what challenges they are or have faced (along with the good stuff). We are trying to have real issues and stories discussed so we can all learn together and inspire</p>
<p>4- Do they have a way to be reached by our listeners/willing ..</p>
<p>5- Would they enjoy some free PR</p>
<p>For support systems such as investors, funders, consultants, etc., we are developing niche monthly segments, etc.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h2>Question #2</h2>
<p>From: Matt B.</p>
<p>Question: Where do I put my environmental cost savings on my profit and loss statement? We know, from our community reports, that our organization helps to save our community $350,000 last year.</p>
<p>Answer: Yes, this one comes up a lot. So, the short answer is ‘ you don’t put environmental cost savings in dollars on your profit and loss.  Two parts to this answer:  one has to do with cash accounting and the other has to do with environmental social enterprises (or, what some people refer to as triple bottom line businesses). It all has to do with what runs through your bank account and what does not.</p>
<p>Part one: Your profit and loss is, essentially, a report of all of the cash that came in from sales of products and services and a list of the cash expenses that went back out of your bank account. The bottom of the profit and loss shows you if you had some left over – or not- at the end of that period. So, the first part of this answer is to <em>anchor</em> on the fact that your bookkeeping, accounting, and financial reporting are tracking monies coming in and out. For the purposes of this answer, we are not going to pay attention to money that you owe or are owed. Just assume we are tracking cash.</p>
<p>This brings me to part two of this answer: In general, when you operate a social enterprise that is having a positive effect on the environment, that effect is usually in the form of savings. Your organization is probably reducing a cost somewhere either internally, in your community, or for the broader globe. For example, by using a certain type of packaging for your retail products, you may be reducing the amount of trash in landfills and other toxic ramifications. You may even be saving money locally, such as our friend with this question. Now, this environmental savings effect is real and, most likely, has a dollar value.</p>
<p>Here is where the confusion comes in: even though the dollar savings are real, you will not be recording it in your organizations expenses or revenue or on any of the traditional financial statements. Why?  Because traditional financial statements are tracking cash coming in and out of your bank account. The environmental saving dollars are not coming in or out of your bank account.</p>
<p>Now, there is a great place to record your environmental savings and reductions and that is on your social impact reporting!  This is the one and...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mailbag for May 19, 2016  </strong></p>
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<p>Time for the Mailbag!</p>
<p>Romy answers three great listener questions followed by a light-hearted full song by Tim Schumack of Detroit.</p>
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<p><strong>Full Transcript</strong></p>
<p>Thanks for tuning into our mailbag episode. This is Romy and I will answer <strong>three</strong> of our listener questions.  Let’s get right to it…</p>
<h2>Question #1</h2>
<p>From: Melissa</p>
<p>Question: How do you pick your guests?</p>
<p>Answer: Our guest selection is somewhat process and somewhat random!</p>
<p>We are looking for primarily for guests that are social entrepreneurs but we also like to talk to those that are connected in some way.</p>
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<p>If they are a social entrepreneur, we then look for a couple of things such as:</p>
<p>1- Do they have an enterprise going (selling some type of product or service) or plan to do so in the near future?</p>
<p>2- Is their social mission focused?</p>
<p>3- Are they willing to talk about what challenges they are or have faced (along with the good stuff). We are trying to have real issues and stories discussed so we can all learn together and inspire</p>
<p>4- Do they have a way to be reached by our listeners/willing ..</p>
<p>5- Would they enjoy some free PR</p>
<p>For support systems such as investors, funders, consultants, etc., we are developing niche monthly segments, etc.</p>
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<h2>Question #2</h2>
<p>From: Matt B.</p>
<p>Question: Where do I put my environmental cost savings on my profit and loss statement? We know, from our community reports, that our organization helps to save our community $350,000 last year.</p>
<p>Answer: Yes, this one comes up a lot. So, the short answer is ‘ you don’t put environmental cost savings in dollars on your profit and loss.  Two parts to this answer:  one has to do with cash accounting and the other has to do with environmental social enterprises (or, what some people refer to as triple bottom line businesses). It all has to do with what runs through your bank account and what does not.</p>
<p>Part one: Your profit and loss is, essentially, a report of all of the cash that came in from sales of products and services and a list of the cash expenses that went back out of your bank account. The bottom of the profit and loss shows you if you had some left over – or not- at the end of that period. So, the first part of this answer is to <em>anchor</em> on the fact that your bookkeeping, accounting, and financial reporting are tracking monies coming in and out. For the purposes of this answer, we are not going to pay attention to money that you owe or are owed. Just assume we are tracking cash.</p>
<p>This brings me to part two of this answer: In general, when you operate a social enterprise that is having a positive effect on the environment, that effect is usually in the form of savings. Your organization is probably reducing a cost somewhere either internally, in your community, or for the broader globe. For example, by using a certain type of packaging for your retail products, you may be reducing the amount of trash in landfills and other toxic ramifications. You may even be saving money locally, such as our friend with this question. Now, this environmental savings effect is real and, most likely, has a dollar value.</p>
<p>Here is where the confusion comes in: even though the dollar savings are real, you will not be recording it in your organizations expenses or revenue or on any of the traditional financial statements. Why?  Because traditional financial statements are tracking cash coming in and out of your bank account. The environmental saving dollars are not coming in or out of your bank account.</p>
<p>Now, there is a great place to record your environmental savings and reductions and that is on your social impact reporting!  This is the one and only place to record them.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, anytime you are reducing a cost to a government, a local agency, another non-profit, person, or community, you will record those savings in a social impact report.</p>
<p>So, let’s summarize, you don’t record environmental savings on your profit and loss because that is a financial statement recording your sales and expenses that are or will be moving through your bank account. The easiest way to think about it is if it is running through your bank account or not.</p>
<p>Let me catch one more item. There are such things as Double Bottom Line reports which are a version of a profit and loss that are extracting out the hard dollar expenses associated with the social impact instead of lumping it all together. Again, it is ultimately tracking the bank account activity.</p>
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<h2> Question #3</h2>
<p>From: Anonymous</p>
<p>Question:  How come you don’t have a Mystery Sound on every episode?</p>
<p>Romy – Thank you, anonymous, for that question.  You are right. We don’t have a mystery sound on each episode. That is because some of the social entrepreneurs don’t have their own place of business or maybe they aren’t producing something that would even make a sound. For example, they might be a financial firm – not much to capture there.</p>
<p>When our team was thinking about the Mystery Sound, we were brainstorming about fun things to add to the show. We didn’t really think about the fact that we might not be able to capture a sound every time. Ha ha. Oh, the lessons of entrepreneurship. Ha ha  But!  We are not moving away from the Mystery Sound, we are just going to capture it when we can. So, I guess, the Mystery sound…will be a mystery!</p>
<p>Well, that’s all for now from the mailbag.</p>
<p>To submit a question to the mailbag, please go to bonfiresofsocialenteprise.com and click on the home page box that says ‘ Submit to the Mailbag’</p>
<p>We love your questions and promise to answer every one of them. And, if you give us permission, we will read yours on the air.</p>
<p>Thanks for tuning in to our mailbag episode.</p>
<p>As we close out we want to leave you with another great Detroit artist curated by Assemble Sound. Please meet Tim Schumack and his song ‘You’ from his Album ‘I See Clear Skies’</p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, Jessica and Scott Francisco, Director of Pilot Projects, discover a mutual fascination with the unloved city parking garage and explore what a current design for today’s urban neighborhood might look like. Pilot Projects’ Green Hub concept is an adaptive reuse that reimagines parking structures as vibrant community spaces with parking for bicycles, coworking space, a cafe, and even a rooftop garden with solar panels. Scott and the team partnered closely with a number of community organizations in New York to put this design together, and we hope that a network of parking garages like the Green Hub will eventually be built.</span></strong></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SFrancisco_Headshot_BBF-2.jpg"></a>  <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/greenhubbanner-1.jpg"></a>        <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1649" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-300x243.jpg" alt="Pilot Projects_GreenHub_2015" width="300" height="243" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-300x243.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-1024x831.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1642" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch-300x220.png" alt="Early_Green_Hub_Sketch" width="300" height="220" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch-300x220.png 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch.png 472w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Full Transcription:</strong></p>
<p>Jessica: Scott, it is so good to talk to you this morning. I have to confess that we are about to dig into one of my favorite topics but it’s an obscure one for sure, and that’s parking garages. Welcome, and thank you for joining.</p>
<p>Scott: Thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Jessica: Yeah. Scott, you&#8217;re the Director of Pilot Projects out there in New York. I was looking at the website, and I see you guys describe the work that you do focus on people, spaces, culture and infrastructure and certainly parking garages are one of those pieces of cities that we don’t often think a lot about and don’t appreciate. Thank you again for joining me on this journey today.</p>
<p>I’ll give a little context here; the reason I love parking garages so much is I spent a ton of time in them when I was managing parking for Zipcar out in San Francisco and had a chance to see lots of different designs and think about the neighborhoods that they were located in. When I heard about the Green Hub project that you guys are working on I just had to hear more. Tell me first a little bit more about Pilot Projects and how Green Hub came to be and what exactly are you thinking about for parking garages today and in the future.</p>
<p>Scott: Jessica, we have something in common that&#8217;s our love of parking grudges because I also have a bit of history with them. When I was a very young architecture student, I spent a summer doing assessments of parking garages for an engineering firm where we dragged chains around on the surfaces to test whether the concrete was still intact. I spent a whole summer in parking garages in Canada.</p>
<p>Pilot Projects is a...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Scott Francisco &amp; Jessica Robinson discuss Pilot Project&#8217;s Green Garage Hub &#8211; Bonfires on the Move </strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, Jessica and Scott Francisco, Director of Pilot Projects, discover a mutual fascination with the unloved city parking garage and explore what a current design for today’s urban neighborhood might look like. Pilot Projects’ Green Hub concept is an adaptive reuse that reimagines parking structures as vibrant community spaces with parking for bicycles, coworking space, a cafe, and even a rooftop garden with solar panels. Scott and the team partnered closely with a number of community organizations in New York to put this design together, and we hope that a network of parking garages like the Green Hub will eventually be built.</span></strong></p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SFrancisco_Headshot_BBF-2.jpg"></a>  <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/greenhubbanner-1.jpg"></a>        <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1649" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-300x243.jpg" alt="Pilot Projects_GreenHub_2015" width="300" height="243" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-300x243.jpg 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Pilot-Projects_GreenHub_2015-1024x831.jpg 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1642" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch-300x220.png" alt="Early_Green_Hub_Sketch" width="300" height="220" srcset="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch-300x220.png 300w, http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Early_Green_Hub_Sketch.png 472w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Full Transcription:</strong></p>
<p>Jessica: Scott, it is so good to talk to you this morning. I have to confess that we are about to dig into one of my favorite topics but it’s an obscure one for sure, and that’s parking garages. Welcome, and thank you for joining.</p>
<p>Scott: Thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Jessica: Yeah. Scott, you&#8217;re the Director of Pilot Projects out there in New York. I was looking at the website, and I see you guys describe the work that you do focus on people, spaces, culture and infrastructure and certainly parking garages are one of those pieces of cities that we don’t often think a lot about and don’t appreciate. Thank you again for joining me on this journey today.</p>
<p>I’ll give a little context here; the reason I love parking garages so much is I spent a ton of time in them when I was managing parking for Zipcar out in San Francisco and had a chance to see lots of different designs and think about the neighborhoods that they were located in. When I heard about the Green Hub project that you guys are working on I just had to hear more. Tell me first a little bit more about Pilot Projects and how Green Hub came to be and what exactly are you thinking about for parking garages today and in the future.</p>
<p>Scott: Jessica, we have something in common that&#8217;s our love of parking grudges because I also have a bit of history with them. When I was a very young architecture student, I spent a summer doing assessments of parking garages for an engineering firm where we dragged chains around on the surfaces to test whether the concrete was still intact. I spent a whole summer in parking garages in Canada.</p>
<p>Pilot Projects is a design company that focused on how infrastructure in all its different variations can support culture and look at the dialect and connections between what we build and how we use the buildings and spaces in a way that has a deep cultural impact. In our neighborhood on the lower side of New York City, there’s an old parking garage that was built in 1970. It’s one of the most unloved, unlike the looking structure it doesn’t seem to contribute anything to this streetscape and yet there it is, and it has space for about 300 cars. It’s the kind of thing that we walk by very regularity and would look at it and say, &#8220;What could be done with the structure to bring life and vitality to the neighborhood.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re also avid bikers and are involved in some bike related projects. One of the first things we thought about is how we could bring bicycling and bike culture into this parking structure. Why has it just for cars? It seems completely out of sync with the way the city is going and the way neighborhoods are embracing bike transportation.</p>
<p>Jessica: That’s so interesting to me how you’re bringing it back from just being a place for cars to other modes of transportation, but more in the neighborhood, right?</p>
<p>Scott: Absolutely. We as a cyclist here in the city are always struggling with where you park your bike, how you park your bike, is it going to get stolen, is it going to get wet, is it safe, is it convenient. Given that they’re so much density here in this neighborhood it seemed like the hub for awesome bike parking would be such a great asset to the neighborhood. Here’s this structure, and at the ground level there’s almost nothing going on. Parking structures are known for contributing almost nothing to the streetscape at the pedestrian level. In fact, that space right along the sidewalk in this particular case was just a blank wall.</p>
<p>We thought, &#8220;What if we could just open that up and create a kind of concierge&#8217;s type bike parking, where you have the ultimate place to park your bike right at the sidewalk level and really show it off so that it added something to the pedestrian experience as well.&#8221; Meanwhile, you’re connecting the use of parking space with cycling. Some folks who are coming in and commuting by car are incentivized to drop their car off and take a bike and use the bike as they navigate around the city.</p>
<p>And so, the connections from there starts to develop. You start to think about, &#8220;Well, what about electric cars. What about other forms of transportation that could be housed in the parking structure, car sharing, just different forms of efficient transportation that could be brought together in one place that would really show them off to people that might not even be aware of them and then give them the opportunity to think differently about how they get around.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jessica: Yeah. It’s so funny that you brought up the experience of the parking garage from the street. As I was thinking about our conversation, I did a little bit of digging into the history of parking garages. There was this interesting show at The National Building Museum a couple of years ago, but it went through the history of parking garages as architecture.</p>
<p>A couple of things actually really surprised me. One was that when parking garages were first invented in the early 1900s they actually looked like buildings on the street and they were designed to fit into the neighborhood. More than that they actually in some ways maybe had more technology than the garages that we&#8217;re familiar with today. It sounds like you drove your car up and there was a valet, attendant there who would receive your vehicle and then load it into an elevator, which would then take it up into the building and park the car somewhere. Only in the &#8217;50s did there become this expectation that we would drive our vehicle into the garage and self-park. When you had this self-parking, it actually created a need for the bigger open decks that we&#8217;re familiar with today and that ugly thing facing the street.</p>
<p>We actually went back in a way from the efficient storage. Today we think about robots parking cars in super fancy garages. That’s actually where parking garages started. I was really surprised to see that. As we think about a Green Hub garage or a garage of the future re-connecting it to not just the experience on the street, but also what people demand of the use of that space, I think is quite a fascinating conversation. If you walk through New York, Detroit, any city where we have this prevalence of parking garages you realize that they have some of the best real estates in the city, and we&#8217;re using it to store cars and do nothing else. Again, that&#8217;s why I was just fascinated not just with the bike parking, but some of the other things that you envision for Green Hub.</p>
<p>Can you talk a little bit more about what else might be in the facility? You mentioned electric vehicles, but how else might this space, of a parking garage be used?</p>
<p>Scott: So in our first studies we realized that if we could displace only 14 cars we could put in not only some substantial bike parking with the valet service, a bike shop, a place for maintenance, and possibly even sale of bicycles so really bring the whole bike movement together in one place that had sidewalk level store fronts so very visible to everyone around. Let’s say that that also becomes a kind of a café. This is a place where you can get your morning coffee, you can hang out, you can talk shop with people, you can just intercept with people as cafes always allow. In this case, it’s centered around sustainable transportation. There’s an opportunity for a really social aspect to not only bicycling but all the components of city life that are important and bring them together with the theme of bicycling and transportation.</p>
<p>We also looked at the structure and saw that the roof deck was very underutilized. In fact, it was the least desirable place for people to park their cars. There’s very rarely anyone parked on this roof deck even though this is in a very busy part of the city. We thought, &#8220;What if we could create a kind of micro-community garden on this roof deck with raised planter beds.&#8221; It would actually be pretty easy to move. There could be one parking space each. We did a calculation and figured we could get at least 20 planter beds up there. We can create some room for solar [inaudible <span>[00:10:28]</span> solar collection for some of the parking spaces that remain up there, so create a sun shade and a solar collector and power all of this new infrastructure that we’re adding here with solar power.</p>
<p>As the community got more interested in this, the Business Improvement District commissioned us to explore this even further and looked at putting light weight office space. Basically adding temporary structure to this roof that would allow for community groups to meet and work. Kind of a co-working space for the community on this roof that would be connected to that garden space.</p>
<p>The whole thing started to unfold into a concept of connecting people from different sectors in the community with transportation, making it visible, making it beautiful, and connecting back to what you were saying about the way parking structures used to be, they felt more integrated into the city and the culture of the city as a building that was bringing life and beauty to the city. Now we think of parking structures as these dark, ugly space wasting structures, and devoid of people really even though in fact people are using them they don’t feel like they have any kind of human scale to them. It’s just cars are driving in; cars are driving out. By adding different kinds of activities, different programs to the building you really just change its whole aesthetic and accessibility.</p>
<p>We were thinking, “Well, what if this became an approach to dealing with parking structures in urban centers all around the country, every major city in America, and not just the major ones. Parking structures are everywhere, and we could start exploring this as a theme that could be really creating a network of Green Hubs all over, so when you came to a new city you could count on the fact that there would be this place to go.” Let’s say you needed to use a car, rent a car, share a car this would be a place to go, and while you’re there, you have access to these other types of transportation. When someone comes to Detroit, for example, most people that arrive in Detroit as a visitor probably rent a car.</p>
<p>Jessica: Absolutely.</p>
<p>Scott: The idea of renting a bike or using a bike in Detroit is probably pretty foreign to the average visitor. If something like Green Hub existed you’d suddenly have the opportunity to put that option in front of people and make it feel more accessible, and seeing other people doing it, and I can get a coffee and something to eat while I’m exploring my options. Hearing from some other people like, &#8220;Can you bike throughout Detroit.&#8221; Once you hear some people talking about it, it feels a lot more accessible to you.</p>
<p>Jessica: Sure. I think something you mentioned earlier about parking car and then continuing on in a different way, even if, for instance, in Detroit you did rent a car from the airport, or take a car, what if that were one way and it got you into the city, and then you left it behind and continued to explore either on foot or bike sharing or even on public transit, right?</p>
<p>Scott: Exactly.</p>
<p>Jessica: You don’t necessarily need a car for every piece of that trip when you’re visiting a city or getting around during the day.</p>
<p>Scott: Ideally, these are located as close as possible to public transport, so you’ve got the public transport network basically intersecting with these other means of transport. We know that the car isn&#8217;t going away any time soon. What’s exciting is that the way we&#8217;re thinking about cars these days is changing. We&#8217;re thinking about the way they use energy different ways. From that electric vehicles to hybrids, to self-driving cars, if you think about those technologies all merging you really want a social space where people can talk about these things as well.</p>
<p>Culture change is really at the core of what we’re trying to do here and creating a place for conversations, testing, piloting, visibility and have the icons of that change so people can see it and feel it and start to talk to people about it that may have never been exposed to it before. It’s making it visible. How do you make these ideas that are in many people’s heads, but can we see them at work? Especially in a place like Detroit where you’ve got things are little bit spread out right now and to go to place where numerous concepts and ideas existed in one place, you really intensify the possibility for people to believe basically that it’s possible.</p>
<p>Jessica: Sure, yeah. It’s so interesting. I feel so lucky in the field that I work in. The things that we thought were so far off in the future, technologies. Even electric vehicles a few years ago was still kind of a science fiction to many. Now, we start to see commercials on TV during March Madness for electric vehicles, and solar, the preference there. We really are in the era where this technologies they exist, but I do agree, I think your right that bringing them into people’s environments, our own environments where we can actually start to live with them and figure out what that means for us as a city, as society, as culture, whatever the case may be that’s an important part too. We have to learn how to work together with these new technologies or concepts in a way too.</p>
<p>Again, I love the idea of the parking garage as a hub for conversations, for the transportation network, for energy, which is something you brought up previously with the solar. I was curious when we think about upgrades to buildings and a beautiful structure on a roof with solar panels along with gardens and work space on the top of a parking garage. That all sounds amazing, but it also sounds really expensive. As you guys started to think about this project, what were the conversations there around the cost of actually making this thing come to life?</p>
<p>Scott: We started with a very modest idea about using the structure almost as it was, and from there as other community groups got involved in conversations about how they would like to use the space [the vision] expanded, we were thinking about costs all the way along. This project hasn&#8217;t been implemented yet, so we&#8217;re still looking at budget issues and whether this is feasible, but in the initial view in the parking structures that are already there, all the macro-architectural elements are there. To add solar to the roof, in some cases that part of a program that can be funded through an external program, which basically bears the cost of that infrastructure and creates a partnership with you. Depending on the energy flows, whether that&#8217;s into the grid or whether that&#8217;s captured locally, there&#8217;s a lot of different cost models for the solar part.</p>
<p>What we found is that in the city there&#8217;s already organizations and groups that have their own budgets and visions that we were hoping to draw together into this. So, the community movement through New York is very strong, so the idea of offering space to the community garden on this roof, basically they would be funding all of that additional infrastructure through their budgets, which were modest but enough to bring these planters and vegetable growing beds up to the rooftop.</p>
<p>When we got as far as looking at building new community work space that brought it up to a different level, and a different level of approvals, et cetera. At that point, the community started basically looking at local and state funding options for grants, sustainability, and community development grants, and was successful in getting interest there. We&#8217;re talking now in the multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars to actually built workspace on the roof of this, whereas initially on a bike level we&#8217;re talking about using existing space at the ground level, opening up a wall that separated the building from the sidewalk. Not including the cost of money, but it&#8217;s not a structural change, it&#8217;s more sort of the skin of the building.</p>
<p>Options and modularity, sort of incremental change. The vision for Green Hub more broadly is that this could be done a very low budget level in partnership with the owner of the structure, whether that&#8217;s the city or a property owner/developer that is looking for improving their contribution to the community, the image of the structure, and getting people engaged and involved.</p>
<p>Jessica: Got it, got it. That&#8217;s real, again, very helpful to think about. I think sometimes when we envision change it feels like an all or nothing, and it&#8217;s exciting to hear that you&#8217;ve thought through options. Regarding the community, what types of work have you done around working with others? You mentioned various folks chipping in on the budget for programming, or one piece here, one piece there. Kind of a similar question to the cost, is this concept something that only works in New York and San Francisco, and London, where...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-bonfires-on-the-move-scott-francisco-jessica-robinson]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1641</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ff010927-3df8-415e-b8fa-38216205e815/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 13:13:06 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/913312f7-fa7f-48ac-a9e7-9dfc23360392/scottfrancisofull.mp3" length="41448170" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:46</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>In this episode, Jessica and Scott Francisco, Director of Pilot Projects, discover a mutual fascination with the unloved city parking garage and explore what a current design for today’s urban neighborhood might look like. Pilot Projects’ Green Hub concept is an adaptive reuse that reimagines parking structures as vibrant community spaces with parking for bicycles, coworking space, a cafe, and even a rooftop garden with solar panels. Scott and the team partnered closely with a number of community organizations in New York to put this design together, and we hope that a network of parking garages like the Green Hub will eventually be built.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Southwest Solutions of Detroit#50</title><itunes:title>S2: Southwest Solutions of Detroit#50</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong> Southwest Solutions of Detroit</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews John Van Kamp of Southwest Solutions. John has been the leader and visionary of Southwest Solutions since 1973 and has successfully established a village of partners to address mental health issues. The incredible collaboration and partnering  led initiatives into entrepreneurship and other related systemic change. This is an incredible story of community partnering and change!</p>
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<p>Romy: We are here with John Van Kamp at Southwest Solutions in Detroit, welcome John.<br />
John: Well, I’m very pleased to be here, thanks very much for coming here.<br />
John: And for this interview, I really appreciate.<br />
Romy: So, let's first give a feel of what Southwest solutions is.<br />
John: Sure, at this point and time we would see that we are a family of agencies that are in partnerships with others, working in Detroit’s neighborhoods. Both at the people level and at the place level. But it probably takes a story from the beginning, because when we started we had ten staff and we now have about five hundred. So, it’s a story of the evolution that brings sense as to what we are.<br />
Romy: Yeah, I really want to unpack this a little bit. Just real quick at a service level, you said you work with people and places in the neighborhoods, is it veterans mostly that you work with or all kinds, right?<br />
John: Yeah, it’s with all kinds. I mean, we really started in 1972 as a small community mental health agency. It was not long after the Kennedy administration had created the concept of community mental health and it put together a funding model for community mental health, and Monsignor Clement Kern and Rev. Bill Moldwin and Rev. George Veneto, by Faustino Romero, Snoal and others, saw the concept of community mental health and saw the dollars available. They did a lot of work, and we opened our doors in 1972, with a staff of ten and a budget of two hundred thousand.</p>
<p>John: So that’s where we started. I shouldn’t say we because I didn’t start until 1973. I started as a grad student from Wayne State in the school of social work, community organizing and placed with the agency. But what attracted me and not only the clinicians but kind of some the community oriented people is that context of community mental health. It started with mental health rather than mental illness. So, the treatment of somebody’s mental illness is a key part of mental health but so is housing, so is healthcare.</p>
<p>John: So is a job, so is education. All of those things are a part of, if you will, my emotional well-being or my mental health.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, definitely.</p>
<p>John: But community mental health, what they realized is that because of the myths and the stereotypes and the stigma about mental illness, those community values are in a community and people either open them up or don’t.</p>
<p>John: So they divided the country into catchment areas to implant a community mental health agency in each. So you could work in a community context to have the community open up their values to their brothers and sisters who had a mental illness. So we started at the very beginning.</p>
<p>John: Creating a system of care for people with mental illness. What that meant is we came to the table, providing treatment services, but we had to find healthcare. We had to find housing; we had to find workforce development. And in that, some things we partnered, and some things we did ourselves. But when you realize you can...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Southwest Solutions of Detroit</strong></p>
<p>Romy interviews John Van Kamp of Southwest Solutions. John has been the leader and visionary of Southwest Solutions since 1973 and has successfully established a village of partners to address mental health issues. The incredible collaboration and partnering  led initiatives into entrepreneurship and other related systemic change. This is an incredible story of community partnering and change!</p>
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<p>Romy: We are here with John Van Kamp at Southwest Solutions in Detroit, welcome John.<br />
John: Well, I’m very pleased to be here, thanks very much for coming here.<br />
John: And for this interview, I really appreciate.<br />
Romy: So, let's first give a feel of what Southwest solutions is.<br />
John: Sure, at this point and time we would see that we are a family of agencies that are in partnerships with others, working in Detroit’s neighborhoods. Both at the people level and at the place level. But it probably takes a story from the beginning, because when we started we had ten staff and we now have about five hundred. So, it’s a story of the evolution that brings sense as to what we are.<br />
Romy: Yeah, I really want to unpack this a little bit. Just real quick at a service level, you said you work with people and places in the neighborhoods, is it veterans mostly that you work with or all kinds, right?<br />
John: Yeah, it’s with all kinds. I mean, we really started in 1972 as a small community mental health agency. It was not long after the Kennedy administration had created the concept of community mental health and it put together a funding model for community mental health, and Monsignor Clement Kern and Rev. Bill Moldwin and Rev. George Veneto, by Faustino Romero, Snoal and others, saw the concept of community mental health and saw the dollars available. They did a lot of work, and we opened our doors in 1972, with a staff of ten and a budget of two hundred thousand.</p>
<p>John: So that’s where we started. I shouldn’t say we because I didn’t start until 1973. I started as a grad student from Wayne State in the school of social work, community organizing and placed with the agency. But what attracted me and not only the clinicians but kind of some the community oriented people is that context of community mental health. It started with mental health rather than mental illness. So, the treatment of somebody’s mental illness is a key part of mental health but so is housing, so is healthcare.</p>
<p>John: So is a job, so is education. All of those things are a part of, if you will, my emotional well-being or my mental health.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, definitely.</p>
<p>John: But community mental health, what they realized is that because of the myths and the stereotypes and the stigma about mental illness, those community values are in a community and people either open them up or don’t.</p>
<p>John: So they divided the country into catchment areas to implant a community mental health agency in each. So you could work in a community context to have the community open up their values to their brothers and sisters who had a mental illness. So we started at the very beginning.</p>
<p>John: Creating a system of care for people with mental illness. What that meant is we came to the table, providing treatment services, but we had to find healthcare. We had to find housing; we had to find workforce development. And in that, some things we partnered, and some things we did ourselves. But when you realize you can create a system of care for a vulnerable population, you could do it for another population. And maybe that’s the first evolution of business thinking.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, right.</p>
<p>John: Right? Wow, we could create a system of care for people with mental illness. We can also do it for people who are homeless.</p>
<p>John: So we and our partners then created a pretty comprehensive array of services for people that are homeless. Well, then we realized when another opportunity came along, we could do it for kids in the juvenile justice system. So, you see kind of a business model?</p>
<p>John: You started one, but you see your line of business applies to others. So, for the last fifteen years in partnerships with the Down River guidance center, we have created a very comprehensive system for kids in the juvenile justice system. And then, about twenty years ago we started working with children, with parents, with very young children. So, we entered that space of early childhood development but what we saw there when we entered in, if you just work on the kids, you’ll go so far, but if you work with the whole family if you are as focused on the mom and the dad.<br />
Romy: Mmh.</p>
<p>John: Or the aunt and the uncle, that impacts the child.</p>
<p>Romy: All right.</p>
<p>John: Okay, so, we created a system of care for families with young children.</p>
<p>John: How do we help mom? Maybe mom is working, for a company, and that company moves out of Detroit, and the skillset she has is not now, what's needed in the marketplace. So, how do we help her with her math skills or her English skills, or to get the next elevation of a job that she wants? So we started looking at things pretty comprehensively, does that makes sense how I’m trying to describe it?</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, as I keep listening to you in those two or three scenarios, it’s like you are looking at all of the factors that are affecting, I guess what I would call the beneficiary you are trying to help.</p>
<p>John: Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: And setting up an infrastructure around them and almost a village type way with these partners, right?</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah. We use the villages a lot.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah.</p>
<p>John: We talk about, at some level, what are we trying to create? We believe that community is an intervention.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes, I believe that too.</p>
<p>John: Okay, and that village is an intervention.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, in other words, that village works. I don’t know if they talk about governmental structures or families, but that village works because everyone is centered on the success of everyone in that village.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes.</p>
<p>John: Well, that’s a community.</p>
<p>John: But what we realize is, you can’t just focus on the person, you need also to focus on the place. In other words, what is the condition of housing, what’s happening in your neighborhood as well as with you as a Neighbor? So, we are vested in the success of the individuals and the success of neighborhoods, is that so?</p>
<p>Romy: Yes.</p>
<p>John: Kind of the integrated wellness between the wellness of people and the wellness of place.</p>
<p>Romy: You’ve done something that many try to do, and you’ve done this well. You have partnered with these organizations and created stability.</p>
<p>Romy: Many tell me in the field, “Gosh, Romy, I’ve tried to do that but it’s unstable, I can’t depend on that partner’s thing.” You have so successfully built this infrastructure or partnerships and kept the community together.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, I mean, trust me, we’ve had a lot of lessons learned. We’ve probably had as many failures as we have success, but we learn from the failure. But let's take healthcare, okay. Very early on, we saw studies coming out of national institute of mental health that said, people with severe mental illness, die twenty-five years earlier than the general population.</p>
<p>John: Probably one of the largest health discrepancies, that there is, or health disparity. So we knew we had to address healthcare. We also knew that we weren’t, doctors and nurses. So, we looked for a provider who wanted to partner with us. It took us a while, quite frankly, there were some clients who said, “There is this free faith-based clinic called Covenant Community Care that is treating us with respect.”</p>
<p>John: so, wow, then I want to meet them.</p>
<p>John: And the first place you start is, is there alignment and mission, vision and values?</p>
<p>Romy: Right.</p>
<p>John: So you spend a lot of time at that.</p>
<p>John: Because when you are in a true partnership, you are probably equally, if not more vested in their success than your success, so when you can get to that point.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes.</p>
<p>John: It’s like a marriage when you are more lets say …</p>
<p>Romy: Right.</p>
<p>John: You know, vested in your partner, it comes back to you, all right?</p>
<p>John: So, we were fortunate to have a covenant was at the time was a free clinic. So we worked with them, till now they have very significant funding. They have over a hundred staff, they are in seven locations around the city, but they started with us.</p>
<p>Romy: So they grew with you?</p>
<p>John: Yes.</p>
<p>Romy: Your intention wasn’t just to take, it was to help them grow as well?</p>
<p>John: Oh, absolutely, they are totally independent and do things …</p>
<p>John: But they are in all of our buildings where we are working with our clients, they are in our buildings and an integrated kind of model. That’s an example of a partnership that works.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes.</p>
<p>John: Because we are vested in their success, they are vested in ours.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes.</p>
<p>John: But we are drawn together by a common mission, vision, and values.</p>
<p>Romy: Yes, yes, that’s great … I’m going to make sure I highlight that word on there for everybody.</p>
<p>John: (Chuckles), yeah.</p>
<p>John: So there are a couple of examples, of social entrepreneurship, that I think highlights again, another example of partnerships. A number of years ago I had a sabbatical from the McGregor Foundation.</p>
<p>John: And it allowed me to go around the country looking best practices.<br />
John: And I asked people where I should go. So I asked Rip Rapson, from The Kresge Foundation where I should go. He said, “John, you ought to go to Minneapolis,” where he was a former deputy mayor.</p>
<p>John: And he said, “Look at neighborhood development corporation.” He said, “They have the best social entrepreneurship program in the country.</p>
<p>John: So I went there, and I was real, really impressed. I mean, for twenty years they worked a lot with immigrants. Okay, whereas here in Detroit we are working with Detroiters. Most of the minority and some, immigrants. How do you start somebody who has a passion for a concept, for an idea, who is going to be all in and their family will be all in, and they are going to work twenty-three seven, on that concept, and they are willing to go through some failures in order to get to the business model that they see. So, for twenty years, they perfected a model. And they were fortunate to bring evaluators on board from the very beginning</p>
<p>John: So they can now show the thousands of jobs created, the millions of dollars of property tax paid, and personal income tax. I mean, those are the measures you want to look at, right?</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, oh yeah.</p>
<p>John: As a community to look at that. So, probably better than might go in there and seen it, is it Steve Tobocman, also when, on his own? So Steve brought them to Detroit and brought the foundation community to take a look at what the neighborhood development corporation had done. And they said, “We want to fund it.” see, Steve said, “Okay while you are at it, do it through Southwest.” But the model is one where we look for a community partner, that community partner could be a church.</p>
<p>It could be a non-profit organization; it could be a group, but they are known in their community. They are known in the Latino community or the Arab community or the monk community, or in East side Detroit or in Asb, they are known, they are trusted by the residents there. So then we partnered with them, we bring the skill sets, we bring the twenty hours of individual and group training. We bring the business model and the coaching and the TA, but then we do it with you, in your language.</p>
<p>John: By people who speak your language, by people who look like you in your community, to that trusted community partner. Prosper Us is the name of our business. A lot of people don’t even know that Southwest started it.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah.</p>
<p>John: Because we have it allowed to be owned so much by our community partners.</p>
<p>John: But we’ve now had over four hundred and sixty graduates, from that in just three and a half years. People are now starting their own businesses, getting loans, we have a micro-lending program in there, character-based loans. So there is an example of, starting off being a mental health agency, gets into social entrepreneurialism which is a social enterprise I don’t know if itself.</p>
<p>Romy: It is, and you continue to keep solving and strengthening the ecosystem by bringing in all of these connection points.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: That eventually lead to mental health if they are not solved, right?</p>
<p>John: Yeah. We are now about the mental health of the community.</p>
<p>John: And I think overtime we have evolved into working in neighborhoods, around the city, with neighbors and neighborhoods. Our neighborhood with our partners is Southwest Detroit. It’s going to take us and our partners ten, fifteen, twenty years to make Southwest Detroit, the eighty thousand people who live here, intentionally a place that people want to live, work, play, pray and all of that.</p>
<p>John: It will take us a while, but some of what we do, the fact that we do mortgage lending, the fact that we do workforce development and prosperous, we can do in your community, we can do in other communities around the city. So in fact, we probably are in more neighborhoods, around the city than just about any other NGO.</p>
<p>Romy: So, for us, that’s relatable when you are outside of the US, but Southwest solutions are so well known, they even know it in other parts of the state and other parts of the Midwest.</p>
<p>John: Mmm-hmm (affirmative).</p>
<p>Romy: It’s really viewed as an anchor organization and a model that others would like to achieve and follow.</p>
<p>John: Well, a number of years, I didn’t know how to describe our agency, community mental health didn’t seem, when you are into housing, you, are mortgage lending, or workforce development and early childhood, it didn’t seem to lend itself to a label, but I went to a Whitehouse conference. Fairly small but it was, how do you turn distressed neighborhoods into neighborhoods of opportunity. One of the panels was phenomenal. There were assistant secretaries of state of HOD, HHS, education, justice, treasury.<br />
John: And seniors leaders from the Whitehouse, all in the same panel. But that wasn’t the best part, the best part as they admitted and this is only five years ago. They said. Finally, we are speaking from the same PowerPoint.</p>
<p>Romy: I understand that.</p>
<p>John: In other words, before that, education would say, “Here is what we are doing in this, you know, distressed community.” And what they realized, that it took an integrated approach among all of what they did, to work it. And they were talking about forty blocks in Baltimore or sixteen in Cleveland or two hundred in Chicago. In Detroit we are talking, many, many neighborhoods surround, around the city. So, what it takes is a comprehensive human development approach, which is an education in early childhood and healthcare and workforce development, financial coaching and all, a comprehensive human development approach.</p>
<p>At the same time a comprehensive community economic development approach, which is housing and commercial development and banking and entrepreneurship in small business. And at the same time you have to have that resident voice from those neighborhoods, guiding what they want to have and the changes and the opportunities created. So, you see, there is no governmental entity that does all of that. There is no NGO that does all of that. It’s kind of a collective impact model of how do you get all of those aligned in a neighborhood to create neighborhoods of opportunity.</p>
<p>Romy: It’s almost a combination of a cooperative, you had partnerships.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: But the best of all of those is whats actually happening here.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah. I mean…</p>
<p>Romy: Because ….</p>
<p>John: There is an economic development model that, during that sabbatical. And it came out of San Diego. Market Creek Plaza, and they’ve had some lessons learned and some challenges, but they were one of the first to do it.</p>
<p>John: There was the Jacobs family foundation in downtown San Diego. We are giving out about a million in a year. And they realized they weren’t, changing the world. So they decided to move to the most challenging part of San Diego and lead a resident led resident-driven economic development project. Well, so I went out there and I looked at what they did. I looked at the lessons learned. I got some guidance from them but then came back and with help from the Skillman Foundation, we found an area that would make all kinds of commercial sets.</p>
<p>Another instance where eighty thousand cars were traveling on the expressway, in a day and ten thousand, coming across from Canada. So, we knew that that was going to be developed but, that a CVS or gas station or Wendy’s would move in, and those are nice. But that’s not what neighbors want. So, The Skillman Foundation gave us enough money and we hired residents, and we did seven hundred face to face interviews.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s a lot.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, that is a lot.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s a lot.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, but the data that you gather when you do, especially when you hire residents to interview other residents, now that’s where they are spending their money. What businesses, you know, that they are going outside, that they would like to have here, what would keep them here?</p>
<p>John: So, they designed a survey, they implemented it. Now we are armed with, what they want regarding economic development in their neighborhood. Now we are looking for dollars to buy the property. And the create development opportunities, based on what residents want. Well, that’s an economic development model that ought to be replicated throughout the city and the state.</p>
<p>Romy: Right, there is so much of everyone having to submit to what everyone else …</p>
<p>John: Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: Has decided it’s good for them, right?</p>
<p>John: Yes, isn’t it?</p>
<p>Romy: In that voice message, right?</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah.</p>
<p>John: So, yeah, that’s what I love about it. We are still working at it, it’s a work in progress.</p>
<p>John: But, I think one of the things we look to be is early adapters of other people’s best practices. In other words, we are non-innovators, we don’t conceptualize something.</p>
<p>John: But we look at, how can we learn from the best practices there and through partnerships created, in the neighborhoods that we are working?</p>
<p>Romy: Well, that stays with and honors your theme of community.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: Because you by default become a bigger community when you are learning from each other.</p>
<p>John: Mmh, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: In other locations.</p>
<p>John: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: (Laughs), it’s networks here if you will, to other cities that are already doing some learning.</p>
<p>John: Another example, is one that united way and risk, brought to the community, just about ten years ago is called...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-two-southwest-solutions-detroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1558</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/2d33f439-2f97-4c46-aee0-9c2ccbd5f755/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 14:31:38 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b4116bdc-f797-4fc1-acb0-57253fbb51cf/southwestsolutionsfull.mp3" length="57956097" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:12</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews John Van Kamp of Southwest Solutions. John has been the leader and visionary of Southwest Solutions since 1973 and has successfully established a village of partners to address mental health issues. The incredible collaboration and partnering  led initiatives into entrepreneurship and other related systemic change. This is an incredible story of community partnering and change!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Better Life Bags#49</title><itunes:title>S2: Better Life Bags#49</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 2 &#8211;  Better Life Bags</strong> Social Enterprise</p>
<p>Romy interviews Rebecca Smith with Better Life Bags in Hamtramck of Detroit. Hear the incredible story of how she launched a business of making custom handbags hand-sewn by local women who had previously had cultural barriers to employment. Rebecca shares how she grew, used social media, and created dynamic relationships with her now 16 employees~</p>
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<div id="attachment_1524" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pose-5.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-1524" class="wp-caption-text">Rebecca Smith of Better Life Bags</p></div>
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<p>Transcription beginning with Fun Fuel:</p>
<p>Jentzen:<br />
Hey, guys. This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this episode. Now, today&#8217;s fun fuel is going to be about Coach Handbags and the history behind them. The Coach Company was originally created in 1941 by the Coach family out of a small shop in Manhattan. The Coach family had a small team of six, and they were making wallets and billfolds out of leather, and they were doing all these by hand.<br />
Five years after the company was created in 1946, the Coach family joined up with a man named Miles Cahn and his wife, Lillian, who owned their own leather handbag manufacturing business. Fifteen years later in 1961, Miles Cahn and his wife ended up buying out the Coach family and making the two companies one company. Now, Miles was amazed at the leather baseball glove and how over time, the leather of the baseball glove becomes more flexible, softer, and more supple. He attempted to mimic that leather in his own leather of wallets and handbags. Through attempting to mimic this, Miles ended up creating leather that was stronger, softer, and more flexible.<br />
Now, he also found ways to color the leather. Little did he know that leather itself actually holds color incredibly well. Now, it wasn&#8217;t until Miles&#8217; wife suggested to him that they not only make wallets and bags for men but they start creating accessory bags for women. Now, this is when their company really boomed. As the company grew more and more successful, Miles and his wife hired sportswear and fashion designers to add more creative elements to their bags making them even more successful and growing into the famous Coach bags we see around the US today. This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for today&#8217;s episode.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Very nice. Thank you, Jentzen. Let&#8217;s transition. Please meet Rebecca Smith from Better Life Bags. Welcome, Rebecca to the podcast.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Thank you. Thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Now, let&#8217;s talk about what Better Life Bags is.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
We make custom leather and fabric handbags. We manufacture them here in Detroit, Michigan, actually in a little city called Hamtramck which is surrounded by Detroit on all sides. We hire women who have barriers to traditional employment, and they work here in our workshops. Some of them work from their homes. Whatever their specific need is, we try to work with them in that. Then, our customers go on to our website, and they customize and design their own bag. Then, we make it to order for them here and shop.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Social enterprise at its finest. We&#8217;ll come back and dig in. Let&#8217;s let listeners know where we&#8217;re doing this interview.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Right now, I&#8217;m actually in our workshop. If you hear background noise, it&#8217;s a working manufacturing studio. Pretty small, I&#8217;d say 1600 square feet. Actually, big to us. We just moved from a 700 square foot space into this space. It feels enormous. We&#8217;re right here in Hamtramck. We&#8217;re cutting leather, we&#8217;re cutting fabric, we&#8217;re sewing, we&#8217;re...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 2 &#8211;  Better Life Bags</strong> Social Enterprise</p>
<p>Romy interviews Rebecca Smith with Better Life Bags in Hamtramck of Detroit. Hear the incredible story of how she launched a business of making custom handbags hand-sewn by local women who had previously had cultural barriers to employment. Rebecca shares how she grew, used social media, and created dynamic relationships with her now 16 employees~</p>
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<div id="attachment_1524" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pose-5.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-1524" class="wp-caption-text">Rebecca Smith of Better Life Bags</p></div>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BLB-58.jpg"></a></p>
<p>Transcription beginning with Fun Fuel:</p>
<p>Jentzen:<br />
Hey, guys. This is Jentzen with your fun fuel for this episode. Now, today&#8217;s fun fuel is going to be about Coach Handbags and the history behind them. The Coach Company was originally created in 1941 by the Coach family out of a small shop in Manhattan. The Coach family had a small team of six, and they were making wallets and billfolds out of leather, and they were doing all these by hand.<br />
Five years after the company was created in 1946, the Coach family joined up with a man named Miles Cahn and his wife, Lillian, who owned their own leather handbag manufacturing business. Fifteen years later in 1961, Miles Cahn and his wife ended up buying out the Coach family and making the two companies one company. Now, Miles was amazed at the leather baseball glove and how over time, the leather of the baseball glove becomes more flexible, softer, and more supple. He attempted to mimic that leather in his own leather of wallets and handbags. Through attempting to mimic this, Miles ended up creating leather that was stronger, softer, and more flexible.<br />
Now, he also found ways to color the leather. Little did he know that leather itself actually holds color incredibly well. Now, it wasn&#8217;t until Miles&#8217; wife suggested to him that they not only make wallets and bags for men but they start creating accessory bags for women. Now, this is when their company really boomed. As the company grew more and more successful, Miles and his wife hired sportswear and fashion designers to add more creative elements to their bags making them even more successful and growing into the famous Coach bags we see around the US today. This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for today&#8217;s episode.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Very nice. Thank you, Jentzen. Let&#8217;s transition. Please meet Rebecca Smith from Better Life Bags. Welcome, Rebecca to the podcast.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Thank you. Thanks for having me.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Now, let&#8217;s talk about what Better Life Bags is.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
We make custom leather and fabric handbags. We manufacture them here in Detroit, Michigan, actually in a little city called Hamtramck which is surrounded by Detroit on all sides. We hire women who have barriers to traditional employment, and they work here in our workshops. Some of them work from their homes. Whatever their specific need is, we try to work with them in that. Then, our customers go on to our website, and they customize and design their own bag. Then, we make it to order for them here and shop.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Social enterprise at its finest. We&#8217;ll come back and dig in. Let&#8217;s let listeners know where we&#8217;re doing this interview.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Right now, I&#8217;m actually in our workshop. If you hear background noise, it&#8217;s a working manufacturing studio. Pretty small, I&#8217;d say 1600 square feet. Actually, big to us. We just moved from a 700 square foot space into this space. It feels enormous. We&#8217;re right here in Hamtramck. We&#8217;re cutting leather, we&#8217;re cutting fabric, we&#8217;re sewing, we&#8217;re shipping, and all today.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
For those who might not have some knowledge about the community and the neighborhood of Hamtramck within Detroit, would you mind giving us a feel of the demographics because, in my opinion, it&#8217;s incredibly unique.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah, it&#8217;s super diverse. I believe it is Michigan&#8217;s most diverse city. I&#8217;ve heard other people say that it&#8217;s actually one of the most diverse cities in America. Forty years ago, it was 90% Polish immigrants. Then, over in the past, I don&#8217;t know, twenty years or so, there&#8217;s been a high influx of immigrants from Yemen, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Albania, Bosnia. It&#8217;s a melting pot of cultures.<br />
This is the first stop for immigrants to land, get their feet on the ground, and then after a few years, they&#8217;ll move out to the suburbs and the second generation of immigrants will grow up in the suburbs. We have highly first generation immigrants here in our little city. Twenty-six languages are spoken at my kids&#8217; school. You see them in English. It feels like a different country. It&#8217;s only two square miles. It&#8217;s very small. It&#8217;s just an interesting place to be. Amazing food, for sure, because everyone is bringing their authentic recipes. Then, they&#8217;re opening restaurants here. It&#8217;s a really fun place to be.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
If you&#8217;re not familiar with Hamtramck, those are your lists, and you&#8217;re going to have to make a journey in. Check it out. It&#8217;s just a stop worth having. Thanks for that anchoring to your place. Now, would you take us on a journey of how this all started and it will probably lead to the reason why you and your husband are actually living in Hamtramck.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
About seven years ago, I was pregnant with our first child, and I decided to make myself a diaper bag. My grandpa had taught me to sew when I was really young, and I&#8217;d lost the art of it. My mom had bought me a sewing machine for my birthday that year maybe to spark something up again. I had the time, so I decided, &#8220;Let&#8217;s try it.&#8221; I had a friend help me make my first diaper bags. We went to the fabric store, we picked out the fabrics I wanted, came home, and created my very own diaper bag that fit my style and to match my son&#8217;s nursery.<br />
I posted pictures of that bag on Facebook. Some friends and family commented, &#8220;You should sell these. I would buy one of them. You should open an Etsy shop,&#8221; which Etsy had just come on to the scene about that time, and I had never heard of it before, but after doing some exploration, I realized anyone can open an Etsy shop, and you just have to have an email address, and you can start selling things that you make on Etsy. I had nothing lose. I thought it would be a fun hobby of mine that I could sew bags as I enter this new season of motherhood.<br />
Opened an Etsy shop. We named it Better Life Bags even way back then because my brother had introduced me to Kiva, the microloan company at Christmas that year. He had given us a $25 Kiva gift card which, at first, I thought was the worst Christmas gift you could ever give anyone because I had to turn around and give that money away. It&#8217;s $25 that you can&#8217;t have. You have to go and loan it to someone. I hopped on the site and I&#8217;m looking through all these profiles of people who are raising money in third world countries to open a grocery store, to buy more sheep, and I was just addicted to the whole concept. I thought it was so cool.<br />
I decided, these bags that I&#8217;m selling on Etsy, I can donate a percentage of them and give more and more loans through Kiva. We named it Better Life Bags in the sense that these bags would be helping make someone&#8217;s life better by your purchase. I sent a picture of, it&#8217;s usually a woman, sometimes a man that that loan was going to go help with the bags. The customer was receiving a bag, and then a picture, and a story of the person through Kiva. That was the original intent. It seemed very easy to me and just ought to be a simple, little hobby.<br />
About six months later, my husband decided to move us to Michigan. We were in Savannah previously, Savannah, Georgia. He had been overseas in the military, just developed a real love for Muslim culture and Muslim people, and just thought it would be really cool to raise our kids and our family in a really diverse neighborhood, a place that has a need that we can really get grounded in, and invest in. Somehow, he heard about Hamtramck, Michigan. We had never visited before.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Oh my goodness.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
I just said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s go.&#8221; I think I was in this newborn fog. I didn&#8217;t realize what I was saying yes to. We packed up everything and moved to Michigan to this very different city that I never had in my life lived in anything remotely close to it. I grew up in suburbs, in middle-class America. To be in a low-income city with so many different cultures, it was a real culture shock. I really desired to have friends with people with different cultures, but it was very awkward and hard.<br />
My first friend that I made, she was from Yemen. Her name was Nadia. She spoke no English. I spoke, obviously, no Arabic, but we both knew how to sell. We spent our first evening together in my basement sewing a bag, one of the bags that I sold on Etsy. We had a good time. We didn&#8217;t have to speak each other&#8217;s language to sew. That&#8217;s a universal language.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
I love this.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
That&#8217;s how we spent our first night together as friends. About three years into living here, the business, some bloggers caught wind of it. Someone with about three million Pinterest followers pinned one of my bags on the Pinterest, and things just went crazy. I couldn&#8217;t keep up anymore. It was too busy to do during my kids&#8217; nap times. I had two kids then at that point, and I couldn&#8217;t keep up.<br />
I called my friend, Nadia, that I had spent time with in the basement sewing. She has gotten much better at English as the years had gone by and I said, &#8220;I need help. Can you sew all the insides of these bags, also all the outsides, and we&#8217;ll put them together twice as fast?&#8221; She was really excited about it. I started going to her house once a week and dropping off fabric, and picking up the bags that she had done the week before. Then, the same thing the next week, drop off and pick up. I&#8217;d bring my kids, and we would stay, and we would hang out every week, and just really deep into our friendship at that point. I pay her bag, per piece.<br />
Eventually, she got so good at the insides that I said, &#8220;Here, I&#8217;ll teach you the outsides too,&#8221; and she was doing the whole bag, and we went even faster at that point. I&#8217;d say about six to eight months into this routine, she met me at our weekly drop off and picked up, and she said, &#8220;I got to show you something.&#8221; She leads me upstairs to her kids&#8217; bedrooms and for the first time, she had bought her kid&#8217;s bunk beds; whereas before, they were just sleeping on the floor. She has four children.<br />
Her husband works at a gas station and does his very best to make ends meet, but it&#8217;s never really enough. This extra income in their family was allowing them to buy things that I consider necessities, but they had never been able to afford before like a dining room table. Like I said, bunk beds. They got their first couch. I started to see really the difference that a job could do for her. She&#8217;s unable to get a job outside of her home because she&#8217;s a Muslim woman because she&#8217;s very conservative Muslim woman I should say. In her culture, it&#8217;s not easy to go out and get a job amongst mixed genders, but she could sew inside the comfort of her home, and she has four children. Getting the job outside of the home is impossible in that way too.<br />
We now have about sixteen employees. All of them have some barrier to employment whether it&#8217;s culture, language, education, kids. The Better Life Bag aspect of it switched from sending money to someone overseas that I would never meet to investing deeply into the lives of my neighbors and the people in our city.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Wow. I just want to make a comment here. You&#8217;ve hit on something that is not talked about very often. Often, we talk about the barriers to employment to be maybe former criminal records or past drug use. You come over one level or go over, I guess, one neighborhood and their barriers are languages, education, and potentially culture. I think a lot of people don&#8217;t think about that; and yet, it does prevent. It&#8217;s amazing.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah, the unexpected barrier to employment because definitely, wouldn&#8217;t we say if we hire women with barriers to employment, you think ex-con, people who are trying to enter back from the prison system, but there&#8217;s a whole gallery of women that have different barriers to employment.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Right. Sometimes, it can just be got some children at home that you have to talk about as got to be some type of employment that you can sneak into the cracks of motherhood.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Absolutely, yes.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
You&#8217;re up to sixteen employees now. Some are in your workshop, and some stay at the home as you told us in the beginning.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Right. We let them choose. Our newest seamstress that we hired is from Afghanistan. She&#8217;s an asylum seeker to the States. She is free and able to come to the workshop every day to work. She spends Mondays through Thursday in the shop with us which is really fun just to get to see her and interact with her on a daily basis. Then, our other seamstresses do about 90% of the bags in their homes. Then, they come into our shop once a week for a couple of hours, and they use our industrial sewing machines to finish up any leather work. Then, they pick up their next batch for the week.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let&#8217;s stay on this social mission of employment. What else are you noticing that changes with the women after they&#8217;ve been with you for a season? What other subtle things do you tend to notice?</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
I think one of the unexpected things that even I didn&#8217;t see coming is we have so many different cultures represented in our sixteen employees. We have African-American, we have Bengali, we have Yemeni, we have Afghani, we have white American, and to see all of that interact on a family level, I think, is really unique. I actually remember their first day that our African-American women started work. Some of our seamstresses were actually a little bit afraid. They had never interacted, or talked, or been in the same small space with people that were not from their country. To see that stereotype be overcome and to see them say hi to each other, and hug, and share a meal together is just really, really cool and something I would never have anticipated would be a result of this type of social enterprise.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
It&#8217;s reminded me of some of the work we&#8217;ve done in other countries where this Christian Jewish and Muslim, and finding this common denominator whether it&#8217;s cultural, or religion, or whatever, you could fill in the blank. If the hearts, I&#8217;d like to say, are graceful enough to take the time to find that common denominator, now, you&#8217;ve got something to build on together. There&#8217;s always something in here. We&#8217;ve got motherhood. We&#8217;ve got similar, perhaps, reasons why they have barriers. Then, yet, they&#8217;re all coming together around producing a product. It&#8217;s just really, really great.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah, it&#8217;s a lot of fun. Challenging but a lot of fun.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Yeah, I&#8217;m just imagining, you&#8217;ve got to have a lot more patience because there&#8217;s translations going on, right?</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah, a lot can be lost in translation for sure. Even quality translations on what our customers in America are expecting their product to be, quality-wise. It was a huge jump that we&#8217;ve had to make with every new seamstress. They are in quite a training period before we start shipping out their products. Not good or bad but quality expectations are different in various countries than they are in America. That&#8217;s been interesting. Sometimes, I joke with my husband that things would have been so much easier could I just kept sending money overseas but anything that is hard is always worth it, in my opinion. I won&#8217;t change anything for sure, but sometimes, that seems so much easier, in fact.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let&#8217;s go to your husband for just a minute. When I met Neil, I was so taken aback at his heart. He had gone overseas, served in the war, and instead of coming back, just like &#8220;I got to get home. I got to get away from this,&#8221; he came back with a burden in his heart to serve the culture and moves his whole family from Savannah to Hamtramck. I just was struck by the burden of his heart to help a group that&#8217;s very different from him. It&#8217;s not just he&#8217;s a man, and these are women. There was differences in where he grew up, differences in religion, yet, he was so burdened to serve. I was just so struck by that.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah. He&#8217;s an incredible man. We would not be here if it weren&#8217;t for him. I would not have the guts to move out of something I was comfortable to me and move into a new city. I would not have had the guts to keep going with the business when it seemed too big, or too scary, or too hard if it weren&#8217;t for his cheerleading a lot behind the scenes. He definitely doesn&#8217;t get enough credit outwardly for the success of the business or even the ideas, the social enterprise ideas behind it. He has definitely been the visionary behind it. He has been the servant behind it.<br />
He stayed home with our kids as a stay-at-home dad for at least a year and a half while I got things off the ground. Now, we share parenting duties and all of that, but he has put a lot of his dreams and a lot of his wishes on hold for the business and helped us really get that going. Yeah, he&#8217;s definitely the lifeblood behind it.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
All right. Big shout out to Neil.</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah, this goes to you. I love you, Neil.</p>
<p>Romy:<br />
Let&#8217;s transition here to the bags themselves, these amazing bags. Could you just start to describe your product itself?</p>
<p>Rebecca:<br />
Yeah. They&#8217;re leather and fabric combination bags. Some of our bags can be made with all leather, but none of them can be made with just fabric. There&#8217;s leather somewhere on every bag. Everything is custom and made to order. Our website is interactive. You go on our website, and you pick a style of bag that you really like. We have over forty-five fabrics and three leather colors that you can click on, and see them pop up on this white sketch of a bag, and all sorts of combinations. I haven&#8217;t sat down and do the math to think about how many actual combinations of bags you could create on our website, but you&#8217;re essentially creating a one-of-a-kind piece. Then, it&#8217;s made to order with about a two to three-week turnaround time.<br />
As we...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-better-life-bags]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1549</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c671c009-f565-4a59-8cd0-e13c58168980/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:00:39 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/e7f60a03-0843-42e6-aeae-600253bb7308/betterlifebagsfull.mp3" length="51213766" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Rebecca Smith with Better Life Bags in Hamtramck of Detroit. Hear the incredible story of how she launched a business of making custom handbags hand-sewn by local women who had previously had cultural barriers to employment. Rebecca shares how she grew, used social media, and created dynamic relationships with her now 16 employees~</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Detroit Horse Power#48</title><itunes:title>S2: Detroit Horse Power#48</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Detroit Horse Power founder and equestrian, David Silver, is interviewed by Romy. Learn about the passion for children behind the vision and the expansive potential impact of this great social enterprise!</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Let’s get started. David, will you first tell us about Detroit Horse Power? Then, we’ll dive back into the history.</p>
<p>David: Sure. Detroit Horse Power is a nonprofit I started to expand opportunities for kids who live in the City of Detroit by teaching them valuable life lessons through riding and caring for horses. Our long-term goal is to combine this powerful youth development opportunity with vacant land revitalization by building a new urban riding center on some of Detroit’s vacant land, the unused space in the city. We’ve experienced significant population decline over many decades, and it’s left a real burden on communities and turning that burden into a community asset. It’s a really exciting opportunity for our long-term plans.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s good. Right out of the gate, we got two really cool social missions. Here we go, the youth development with caring for horses and rehabbing the vacant land. I know you’ve got a background in horses because we’ve talked a lot. Will you take us back to how this evolved?</p>
<p>David: I grew up as a competitive horseback rider in Westchester, New York. The sport I grew up riding in is called Three-Day Eventing which is actually an Olympics sport. I was fortunate to have a supportive family and a horse of my own. We were able to get a lot of training, traveling, and competing, and setting goals, and working hard to achieve them. It wasn’t until later, I ended up taking a bit of a break from horses to make the most of my college experience. I went to Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Then, I moved to Detroit in 2012 through Teach for America. As I was seeing the tremendous needs for our kids in the City of Detroit who have so many obstacles stacked against them whether it’s unstable neighborhoods or families moving around a lot or not able to meet kids’ needs, I saw a real important need for more safe and enriching space outside of school that are giving kids skills that set them up for future success.</p>
<p>All of this was going on while space I had from my childhood experience with horses allowed me to reflect on the powerful ways horses have shaped who I am today. Things like the confidence that comes with riding, responsibility for another living being, and perseverance to not give up when things get hard. There&#8217;re so many powerful life lessons that horses can teach us. It became a natural next step for me to combine this powerful background in my story with my passion for expanding opportunity for Detroit to use.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s good. Before we go further into the social mission, what made you think about staying in Detroit to do it because there&#8217;re not horses walking around the city?</p>
<p>David: It’s a unique opportunity. First of all, I feel very fortunate to have been placed in Detroit. I didn’t know very much about the city, and I don’t have any family in Michigan, but I feel a very strong connection with the City of Detroit and the hardworking people who are doing incredible things to build a strong future for residents.</p>
<p>What became the most compelling opportunity, in my mind, is horses combine the research-based therapeutic effects for at-risk youth, among other populations, in need with a large space requirement. They’re big animals, and they take up a lot of space. In most cities, that would be a deal breaker because most cities don’t have large amounts of open space for a large riding center. In Detroit, that actually really matches a big need that’s going to help...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Detroit Horse Power founder and equestrian, David Silver, is interviewed by Romy. Learn about the passion for children behind the vision and the expansive potential impact of this great social enterprise!</strong></p>
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<p>Romy: Let’s get started. David, will you first tell us about Detroit Horse Power? Then, we’ll dive back into the history.</p>
<p>David: Sure. Detroit Horse Power is a nonprofit I started to expand opportunities for kids who live in the City of Detroit by teaching them valuable life lessons through riding and caring for horses. Our long-term goal is to combine this powerful youth development opportunity with vacant land revitalization by building a new urban riding center on some of Detroit’s vacant land, the unused space in the city. We’ve experienced significant population decline over many decades, and it’s left a real burden on communities and turning that burden into a community asset. It’s a really exciting opportunity for our long-term plans.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s good. Right out of the gate, we got two really cool social missions. Here we go, the youth development with caring for horses and rehabbing the vacant land. I know you’ve got a background in horses because we’ve talked a lot. Will you take us back to how this evolved?</p>
<p>David: I grew up as a competitive horseback rider in Westchester, New York. The sport I grew up riding in is called Three-Day Eventing which is actually an Olympics sport. I was fortunate to have a supportive family and a horse of my own. We were able to get a lot of training, traveling, and competing, and setting goals, and working hard to achieve them. It wasn’t until later, I ended up taking a bit of a break from horses to make the most of my college experience. I went to Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Then, I moved to Detroit in 2012 through Teach for America. As I was seeing the tremendous needs for our kids in the City of Detroit who have so many obstacles stacked against them whether it’s unstable neighborhoods or families moving around a lot or not able to meet kids’ needs, I saw a real important need for more safe and enriching space outside of school that are giving kids skills that set them up for future success.</p>
<p>All of this was going on while space I had from my childhood experience with horses allowed me to reflect on the powerful ways horses have shaped who I am today. Things like the confidence that comes with riding, responsibility for another living being, and perseverance to not give up when things get hard. There&#8217;re so many powerful life lessons that horses can teach us. It became a natural next step for me to combine this powerful background in my story with my passion for expanding opportunity for Detroit to use.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s good. Before we go further into the social mission, what made you think about staying in Detroit to do it because there&#8217;re not horses walking around the city?</p>
<p>David: It’s a unique opportunity. First of all, I feel very fortunate to have been placed in Detroit. I didn’t know very much about the city, and I don’t have any family in Michigan, but I feel a very strong connection with the City of Detroit and the hardworking people who are doing incredible things to build a strong future for residents.</p>
<p>What became the most compelling opportunity, in my mind, is horses combine the research-based therapeutic effects for at-risk youth, among other populations, in need with a large space requirement. They’re big animals, and they take up a lot of space. In most cities, that would be a deal breaker because most cities don’t have large amounts of open space for a large riding center. In Detroit, that actually really matches a big need that’s going to help build a strong foundation for all of the Detroit to have a strong future. Where this wouldn’t be possible hardly anywhere else in the country, horses are uniquely positioned to address two persistent problems for the City of Detroit.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, and oh my gosh, there’s so many questions I want to ask you right now because I know we’ve been talking about the need for places to store houses here too, but let’s stay on the social mission for a minute and this therapeutic piece with the kids. You’ve already done some pilots. You’re not officially open the way you want to be yet because of some ordinances and we’ll talk about that in a minute, but you’ve done some pilots, and what’s the progress or the types of things you’d like to see that the youth would experience when coming through working with horses?</p>
<p>David: We’ve done two pilot programs so far. Last summer, we launched with two five-day summer camps that brought a total of 18 kids from the city out to existing horse barns outside Detroit. Like you said, it’s not how we’d like to be doing things long term. Transportation becomes a big barrier to our work, but it’s the best way we can, at this point, show the interest and the impact of horses for kids in Detroit. These experiences have been really powerful, even in the short span of time because this is not something that’s regularly afforded to our kids in Detroit. The excitement, and the enthusiasm, and the recognition that this is a really special opportunity is very clear.</p>
<p>Then, we start to talk about the social and emotional growth that participants experience and given that it’s a pretty short time horizon, but even in the camps we did last summer, we saw a tremendous amount of self-confidence that comes with overcoming fears. A lot of our kids have not been around horses or other farm animals before and there’s a lot of anxiety that comes with these new kinds of experience, not unlike approaching a new academic topic and being really intimidated. Do I have the skills? Am I talented enough to do this? With the right kinds of support and with the natural talent that our kids in Detroit bring to the table, they can really thrive.</p>
<p>By the end of the week, we had everybody riding independently. Some were trotting and doing posting trot independently which is not a small feat when you’ve only ridden four times. We just have such talented kids in the City of Detroit, and I’m really excited for what the future holds. This year, we’re going to be growing to six weeks of pilot programs with a total of 75 participants as we continue to build out measurements or how powerful this can be for our kids and demonstrating what we can do in the future.</p>
<p>Romy: There&#8217;re some institutions that do have some measurements specific to horse therapy, right?</p>
<p>David: Yeah, there’s a great work being done in the field of Equine-Assisted Psychotherapy, which is not particularly what we’re doing. That involves having a trained mental health professional that’s helping a client achieve some therapeutic goal but there’s great work being done and best practices that we’re able to incorporate into our work. As well as really wonderful urban riding programs that are already working in other cities. You see Philadelphia has two programs. Los Angeles has about a half dozen. There’s one in Hartford, Connecticut. It’s not currently available for Detroit’s youths, and that’s what we’re working very hard to make possible.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s so neat. There’s a whole different language around this; I realize as you started to say “equine” and some of the other pieces that horse enthusiasts would really have down there. Sorry if I messed that up a little bit. What about the land? Let’s just go and tackle that piece for a second. Will you fill us in about maybe how much space that you need for boarding horses and riding them? What kind of space are you looking for and what issues? Let’s share with the listeners what’s happening with the ordinances and how you’re leading that?</p>
<p>David: We are looking for 15 to 20 acres of open space that’s located in the community that supports horses as part of the neighborhood’s future. We are looking to be close to kids because transportation is a barrier in Detroit and we need to look at the environment, things like soil contamination that could be harmful to horses is a big concern. We are going through site selection right now and have about a half dozen sites that we are highly interested in, and we’re working with city officials to explore those opportunities.</p>
<p>The biggest hurdle though is, like you said, the city ordinance as it stands now prohibits horses and all other “livestock” in the city limits. You’re allowed to bring them in now for up to 48 hours, and there&#8217;re certain exceptions carved out for circuses and laboratory research as it turns out but there’s been a movement for the last few years to create a new urban livestock ordinance. This was actually first in the conversation around the 2012 Urban Agriculture Ordinance.</p>
<p>Animals were a bit more controversial, and they really needed to pass regulation to give firm legal standing to urban gardens which have been proliferating in Detroit for decades, but there are people keeping animals right now, chickens, goats, honeybees. They’re doing it because they want to make productive use of vacant land, and they want to be connected to where their food comes, and they want the educational benefits of the powerful lessons we can teach our kids through these amazing animals.</p>
<p>The city is getting close to releasing a draft of a new Urban Livestock Ordinance, which I’ve been actively involved in. The ordinance is going to focus on smaller animals; thus, chickens, goats, rabbits, and honeybees with other animals like horses able to be approved on a case-by-case basis which makes sense to me given the large scope of our proposal and the many different considerations for keeping happy and healthy horses in an urban environment.</p>
<p>Romy: I know this discussion about agriculture, and horses and livestock in the city have been ongoing off and on for a while, but it seems like when you joined up here, you had a hand in raising it and elevating it a little bit because I noticed, there’s a lot of talk about it. Maybe tell us a little bit more about what specifically you’ve been doing.</p>
<p>David: I would say that I feel fortunate to have joined the process and the many people who are very dedicated to this issue, and feel fortunate that I joined at a really important time because this has been in development for a number of years, and the city is looking for creative solutions that take the burden of vacant land and turn it into something valuable that increases opportunity for residents.</p>
<p>A large scale horseback riding proposal had not been on the table. City officials have reacted very positively to what we’ve shared. Certainly, there are very legitimate concerns about nuisance, about odor, about pests, about runoff, about animal welfare, about regulatory burden, but all of those can be easily addressed, and I’ve actually written a 30-page urban horse care best practices report which I share with city officials.</p>
<p>My role is real to provide our elected officials with the information they need to make an informed decision to let them know that horses can provide a powerful benefit to our kids and our communities, and to stand in solidarity with the great folks that are doing this work and advocacy.</p>
<p>Romy: That probably ties in rally nicely to the next part as we transition into what the enterprise model might be once it gets going. Part of, I guess, the sell of the concept of the city is about the residents here are boarding horses outside of the city, right?</p>
<p>David: Right. As I’ve gotten to know the Metro Detroit horse community, people have tended to fall into three broad categories. Either they’re living in and around Detroit and they board their horse quite far away, up to 50 miles away that they’re commuting on a daily basis which is a huge burden on them, and their time, and their money, or they can’t stand that commute and they’ve moved further out into more rural areas of Michigan to be closer to their horse, or they’re living in Detroit because they care about the city and want to be a part of it through vitalization but they’re disconnected from their passion.</p>
<p>Creating a new opportunity for people to keep their horses at a high quality and conveniently located facility is a really exciting opportunity to combine this powerful youth impact with filling a market need. By addressing this gap for boarding services, we can increase our financial sustainability so that if there were some disruption in philanthropic support for Detroit Horse Power, we would still be able to keep the lights on and keep our doors open, and keep serving youths because we have a study base of earned income that keeps us afloat.</p>
<p>Romy: That’s so smart. I personally know quite a few folks who put their horses out by places that I live. I live outside of the border but yeah, there’s a lot of people who complain about the commute and would love something like this. It’s got to be part of the south of the city, and they’ve got to be [inaudible <span>[00:13:22]</span>. I think that would be a good thing to keep more residents here locally.</p>
<p>David: Right. You’ve seen Mayor Duggan has defined his mayoral term about whether the city is going to shrink its population or whether it’s going to start growing. The city needs to think strategically about different ways to make Detroit a destination. It already has many wonderful attractions coming into downtown and downtown Detroit is becoming a thriving and more expensive place to be, but much of the city remains as it has been. It’s still struggling with the resources or investment that it needs to thrive. Creative solutions like an equestrian facility should be able to attract residents to come or to stay, as well as new forms of investment that can come around this really attractive place to be.</p>
<p>Romy: There&#8217;re obvious distribution and employment it creates and vendors around it that aren&#8217;t here right now. As you said, unless it’s a pop-up type of event, right?</p>
<p>David: Yeah.</p>
<p>Romy: Would you say since you started this concept, you and I connected, I don’t know, a couple of years ago, maybe a year and a half ago, how has the reception been as you’ve gone out and talked about this because I can just imagine for those folks who know Detroit to think about that and Detroit is really both exciting and thinking, “How in the world would that happen here?” but how has the reception been when you’ve gone out to try to raise some capital around this?</p>
<p>David: The support we’ve gotten has been overwhelmingly positive. I’ve been very grateful for particularly folks in the Michigan horseback riding community who this really resonates with because they already know horses are good for people, and they have some connection to the City of Detroit. Using horses to benefit kids in this city is a natural thing for them to get involved with. They’ve been overwhelmed with the support of volunteers, of people willing to let us use their horse barns, or their horses, or their equipment, and also the donations that make our programs possible at this point.</p>
<p>Then, broadly speaking, there are many Detroiters who their have themselves a connection to horses because of a lot of times family connections in the south or have always dreamed of having access to these exciting opportunities. We’ve been building quite a broad coalition of folks that want to see horses be a part of a stronger future for Detroit.</p>
<p>It’s been about a year since, I think, we met at the end of the Build Social class. This is a relatively new organization. We incorporated, and we receive tax-exempt status in April of 2015. We’ve been growing quickly, and we’re fortunate to receive initial small grants and donations that allowed us to launch last year, and since then have fully funded out Summer 2016 programs, and are currently raising money to expand our impact with an afterschool pilot which will launch in the fall of 2016, and continue through spring 2017 as we begin to demonstrate what a year-round program would look like.</p>
<p>Even though we don’t have horses in Detroit yet, it’s very important for us to be collecting those stories and narratives, as well as the data we’re able to collect on the impact this can have for our kids. That’s been a big point of feedback we’ve gotten from some of the large philanthropic stakeholders who are supporting Detroit is they’re very excited about this idea, and they want to see a track record of demonstrated impact to get involved in a big way. We are very dedicated to proving how powerful horses can be for our kids through these pilot programs. I’m very excited to see where this is going.</p>
<p>Romy: How are you taking which kids get to be in the program when there are so many here?</p>
<p>David: We got started last year with two community partners. The first was Alternatives for Girls which is a terrific nonprofit in Southwest Detroit who took a bit of a gamble on us. We hadn’t done any programs before but were willing to. They believed in what we were doing and how this could really impact their girls. That program was really wonderful.</p>
<p>The second program was with former students of mine actually from Burns Elementary and Middle School on the west side of Detroit. That was doubly meaningful for me because I had left teaching to start this new social venture and that was a very difficult decision for me because my kids were always what had made teaching so important. To include them in this new work that I’m doing now really meant a lot.</p>
<p>Those two stakeholders helped us pick which students got to participate in our camps. Like I said, I’m very grateful that they believed in our work in our first year. As we’ve begun to show how much kids enjoy and benefit from these programs, the interest from new community partners has been really overwhelming as we look ahead to our 2016 program. We’ll be working with Alternatives for Girls and Burns again this year, as well as adding two new community partners, but there’s a list of probably a half-dozen organizations that I would love to be working with, but we just don’t have the capacity at this point. We’re looking forward to growing in the future because there certainly is a really high demand.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah, I could just see this program, something Detroit really needs, desperately needs. I’m sure almost every community, now that I say that out loud, could really use a program like this. I’d like to do it for myself.</p>
<p>David: To back off that, like I said earlier, I feel very fortunate that I got to grow up around horses. It’s something that I consider a real privilege in my childhood. Being able to pass it on to kids who don’t have the same advantage as I grew up with is very important to me on a personal level. The work we’re doing now is directly tied to what horses have meant to me in my life.</p>
<p>Romy: David, just for the people who don’t know the terminology of the Three-Day Olympics, will you tell us what that was that you did and what part of your life you did that in?</p>
<p>David: Sure. Three-Day Eventing, it’s an Olympic sport. It’s a horse triathlon. The first part is dressage which is fancy horse dancing. It’s]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-detroit-horse-power]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1539</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/82a15339-585d-4cc9-9296-a4d2a7792f31/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:53:58 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2a6c7868-7403-47e0-9eeb-074c2d5c6c7d/dhpfullmixdown.mp3" length="50972559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:22</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Former Olympic equestrian and founder, David Silver, shares his brave and compassionate vision to  make change for the Detroit youth and residents with his social enterprise, Detroit Horse Power.&lt;br /&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Eastern Market in Detroit#47</title><itunes:title>S2: Eastern Market in Detroit#47</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong> Eastern Market Corporation</strong> in Detroit interviewed by Romy on location!  Learn about one of the oldest open-air farm markets in the United States and discover the grand plans for the expansion of food entrepreneurialism from start to scale! Romy speaks with Christine Quane about the history and expansion efforts that will sustainably serve a community!</p>
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<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and today we will be listening to my interview with Christine Quane of the Eastern Market Corporation.</p>
<p>The Eastern Market is one of the oldest open-air farm markets in the United States. Actually, it may be the oldest, but it&#8217;s so much more than that. They&#8217;ve been incredibly innovative and observant to the needs of the neighborhood and the entrepreneurial vendors that set up shop there. As you will learn they&#8217;re building out and entire food business ecosystem that will really help the food entrepreneurs move from concept to micro-business and then all the way through into scale.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s begin with our fun fuel for this episode.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey guys, this is Jentzen and here is your fun fact for this episode.</p>
<p>The Eastern Market is well known for collaboration and trade of food and beverage products. I found this historical collaboration on wine.</p>
<p>The act of cultivating wine involved the Mediterranean people from Barbarism due to the fact that they began to use barrels and bottles for the first time. They also began to work together with each other to find ways to ship and trade wine. This is how wine came to be in France. In the nineteenth century, almost all wine vines in France were destroyed by a disease called Phylloxera, which sucked the juices out of the wine vines. Soon after it was discovered that American vines were immune to Phylloxera, so the French obtained wine vines from America and began to make a hybrid wine with the remaining French vines that had survived. This is the wine that forevermore comes out of France.</p>
<p>Romy: As I listen to that fun fuel story, I&#8217;m amazed at how some products and services come to be. It&#8217;s so funny, we forget. There&#8217;s always some sort of collaboration in there.</p>
<p>Please meet Christine from the Eastern Market Corporation. Know that because this place was so booming and busting we had to go all the way downstairs and find a cellar area to do the interview so you&#8217;ll hear a little bit of an echo, but it&#8217;s just part of being on the scene in Detroit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting here with Christine Quane of the Eastern Market Corporation, and I&#8217;m really excited to have Christine she is such a great spokesperson for the Eastern Market. She has...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Eastern Market Corporation</strong> in Detroit interviewed by Romy on location!  Learn about one of the oldest open-air farm markets in the United States and discover the grand plans for the expansion of food entrepreneurialism from start to scale! Romy speaks with Christine Quane about the history and expansion efforts that will sustainably serve a community!</p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This is Romy and today we will be listening to my interview with Christine Quane of the Eastern Market Corporation.</p>
<p>The Eastern Market is one of the oldest open-air farm markets in the United States. Actually, it may be the oldest, but it&#8217;s so much more than that. They&#8217;ve been incredibly innovative and observant to the needs of the neighborhood and the entrepreneurial vendors that set up shop there. As you will learn they&#8217;re building out and entire food business ecosystem that will really help the food entrepreneurs move from concept to micro-business and then all the way through into scale.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s begin with our fun fuel for this episode.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey guys, this is Jentzen and here is your fun fact for this episode.</p>
<p>The Eastern Market is well known for collaboration and trade of food and beverage products. I found this historical collaboration on wine.</p>
<p>The act of cultivating wine involved the Mediterranean people from Barbarism due to the fact that they began to use barrels and bottles for the first time. They also began to work together with each other to find ways to ship and trade wine. This is how wine came to be in France. In the nineteenth century, almost all wine vines in France were destroyed by a disease called Phylloxera, which sucked the juices out of the wine vines. Soon after it was discovered that American vines were immune to Phylloxera, so the French obtained wine vines from America and began to make a hybrid wine with the remaining French vines that had survived. This is the wine that forevermore comes out of France.</p>
<p>Romy: As I listen to that fun fuel story, I&#8217;m amazed at how some products and services come to be. It&#8217;s so funny, we forget. There&#8217;s always some sort of collaboration in there.</p>
<p>Please meet Christine from the Eastern Market Corporation. Know that because this place was so booming and busting we had to go all the way downstairs and find a cellar area to do the interview so you&#8217;ll hear a little bit of an echo, but it&#8217;s just part of being on the scene in Detroit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sitting here with Christine Quane of the Eastern Market Corporation, and I&#8217;m really excited to have Christine she is such a great spokesperson for the Eastern Market. She has helped us so many times here. This conversation is so rich it&#8217;s almost going to be hard to narrow it down. We&#8217;re going to have to come back for part two and three of the Eastern Market.</p>
<p>Today we want to give you listeners a feel of what the Eastern Market is in Detroit. It&#8217;s one of the oldest farm markets, as you&#8217;ll learn from Christine, and they&#8217;re doing some really cool things in exploring business and moving it forward.</p>
<p>Christine, will you start by giving our listeners a real broad view of what the Eastern Market even is?</p>
<p>Christine: The Eastern Market, we are going to be celebrating our 125th year, this year. We like to say that we are the oldest and largest public market in the country. We might share that title with one or two others, but we don&#8217;t know about them, so I think that we are the oldest and largest coming up to 125 years.</p>
<p>A brief history of this place, the market was run out of the city of Detroit&#8217;s Park and Rec department up until about 2006. That&#8217;s when the non-profit Eastern Market Corporation was formed. We signed a management agreement with the city of Detroit to be the [market <span>[00:03:52]</span> operations of the market. Since that time, we have leveraged this place to foundations, to other corporations, and other sponsors that have helped us rebuild and renovate the structures of the sheds in the area.</p>
<p>We were signed on by the city to manage the operations and to renovate the property, and we&#8217;ve done that. What my boss and President Dan Carmody has realized is that this place is so special that we could be doing so much more in the food sector. He is a visionary, a creative man who got the attention of a lot of the Kellogg Foundation, [Karski <span>[00:04:34]</span> Foundation, of others to support different ways that we could leverage this place to increase food access, to increase economic development. THat&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve been doing since he got here in 2007.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an exciting place; we&#8217;re changing all the time. We&#8217;ve moved much more than just renovating sheds and managing market operations. Although, that&#8217;s the bulk of who we are, we have gotten into a lot of other things.</p>
<p>Romy: How big, Christine, is the layout of the place? Our listeners can probably hear; we&#8217;re down in a basement setting right now to try to find a quiet cubby to talk because this place is bustling with activity. If we go upstairs, what is the acreage of this? Some of it&#8217;s open, and some of it&#8217;s being renovated, right?</p>
<p>Christine: Right. The campus itself is about 14 acres. I think it&#8217;s five acres of sell-able space under five structures we call sheds. We have two of those shed buildings are indoors, and the other are open air. Between our two closed sheds, shed three and shed five, is shed four. That structure was built in the 1940&#8217;s during World War II and our next project. We hope to enclose that shed, make it open air in the nicer months but be able to be closed during the winter months as it is the main connector between our two other sheds. It will be a market hall. Above that, we looked at about 40 living spaces on top of the market. It&#8217;s a very exciting project, and that&#8217;s something that we hope to be starting in the next 18-24 months.</p>
<p>Romy: Would that be food vendors staying in there primarily?</p>
<p>Christine: It would operate just like our other market sheds on the main floor and then it would be mixed use residential housing above.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see 40 different units smack dab in the middle of a market that can attract anywhere between 50-100,000 people. On a flower day weekend to 40-50 in the height of a summer day here. I think there are probably at least 40 households that would want this experience. It&#8217;ll be crazy, but it&#8217;ll be great.</p>
<p>Romy: This is such a destination place. I&#8217;ve spent the last 25 years in the Detroit area. Even before that, you hear about the Eastern Market from everywhere. It&#8217;s iconic and people from the suburbs and hours away, for those of you who don&#8217;t live near Detroit, will travel down on weekends.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about some of the histories before we go the future and what&#8217;s happening now. We know restaurateurs will come down and chefs, very early, meet deliveries. Will you give the listeners a flavor of some of that?</p>
<p>Christine: Eastern Market is multiple markets. The main market that the Eastern Market was founded on is our wholesale market. That runs between midnight and 6 AM, five days a week during the growing season. The growing season for the state of Michigan, for fruits and vegetables, starts around Father&#8217;s Day and goes to the end of November. With the warmer weather, we&#8217;ve had growers that&#8217;ve been here up until for first or second week of December still selling a product.</p>
<p>The history of the market, farmers from all over the Southeast, Michigan, Ohio, Canada, would bring their goods to Detroit. They would come to the market, jobbers, they called them back then, would set up shops around Eastern Market that then buy from these farmers and then distribute horse and buggy, then eventually in cars and then in trucks, to the neighboring places. Whatever was left over for the end of the week was then open to the public on Saturday. That&#8217;s how our Saturday market started.</p>
<p>Over the advent of distribution centers, and for grocery and retail, we have seen our wholesale market and the viability of that shrink a little bit as we have been on the outside of supply chains for retail and grocery. However, one of the things that make us really unique here, in Southeast Michigan, is that we do still have a great number of independent retailers that the reason they&#8217;re here is because of Eastern Market, and the reason Eastern Market still exists is because of them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very symbiotic relationship. We like to say, here at the market, that we&#8217;ve all been eating local, before eating local was cool, because these retail grocery stores bought this product because it had an incredible shelf life, it had just been harvested the day before, higher quality as far as taste and flavor and yield. They knew they had a superior product.</p>
<p>Nobody really valued, at that time, that it was local or regional or what it did to the economy. It was just a better product. With being able to differentiate their stores on high quality produce allowed them to stay in business over the years. There&#8217;s a big difference between apples that are coming over in a truck over the Rocky Mountains versus ones that are grown here in Michigan. As far as shelf life and value and flavor. That&#8217;s why we continue to have a market here and the wholesale market. That continues to be a premium.</p>
<p>Now as we move into featuring farmers, and farmers are rock stars now, we had to see the demand for local food in the retail establishment has even been growing over the years. It&#8217;s a trend that&#8217;s not going away. When I say it&#8217;s trend, its not fad in the sense that people are getting burnt out, it just continues to grow.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s our wholesale market. Our Saturday market is 52 weeks a year, so we&#8217;re here every Saturday in the winter as well. We condense down into two sheds, but we do still have a great array of actual produce that is here. Some of it are things that are grown in greenhouses, in Leamington in Canada and things that are grown in greenhouses here in Michigan. A lot of it, too, is coming from dealers that are buying on the world market. This is a public market, not a farmers market. It&#8217;s an access point for fruits and vegetables for the city of Detroit. It very important that we still have lemons and limes and bananas for folks as well as produce all year around. We do have that, and it continues to go.</p>
<p>We also added, in 2011, a Tuesday market, which is like a smaller, scaled down version of our Saturday. It&#8217;s mostly in shed two. It&#8217;s a great open air market. We do a lot of fun programming on Tuesdays to attract people down here. It&#8217;s a fun market.</p>
<p>We also launched a Sunday market. We just finished up our second year of our Sunday market. We like to think of Sunday market as, if Saturday is food with a little bit of stuff, Sunday is stuff with a little bit of food. It&#8217;s Artisans. It&#8217;s your soaps and your fun stuff like that. We do a lot of fun programming, too, on Sunday. That market is growing year over year. We have the Derby Girls that come out. We have all sorts of fun things on Sundays.</p>
<p>We have our infamous Flower Day weekend, which attracts over 100,000 people. Which is a crazy event, but that&#8217;s super fun. It&#8217;s part of so many people in Southeast Michigan&#8217;s tradition to come down here for that day. It&#8217;s just what they do. Moms, grandmothers, it&#8217;s just a big family event, and everybody comes down it&#8217;s a point of tradition. It&#8217;s the kickoff to their summer.</p>
<p>Romy: It&#8217;s so beautiful too. It&#8217;s so beautiful to see that vibrancy of colors and the smells. It&#8217;s amazing.</p>
<p>Christine: Probably my favorite Flower Day moment is just when the sun rises because we&#8217;re here at <span>[5:00]</span> in the morning, to see the sunrise and the sheds explode in color is incredible. Just to see the vibrancy of everything and everyone. It just starts to come alive in those early morning hours. That&#8217;s my favorite time.</p>
<p>Romy: How many core employees and staff do you have, just within the Eastern Market, to pull of what you&#8217;ve said so far?</p>
<p>Christine: We have around 18 full-time staff members and then we have our customer service support team, they&#8217;re our security force and customer service support. We have about 10-15 of those guys as well. One of the things that&#8217;s really important for people to understand is that it&#8217;s very safe here. We have a lot of folks that are walking around that keep their eyes and ears open for any kind of trouble. If we&#8217;re here on a Saturday all of us have a radio; we&#8217;re all on the same frequency. We are constantly monitoring that. I don&#8217;t think this place would be busting with 60,000 people if it weren&#8217;t really safe.</p>
<p>Romy: It&#8217;s melting pot if you come down here. It&#8217;s not just the employment that creates, but the Eastern Market is surrounded by blocks, almost a fence of business around it that also benefit from all the foot traffic.</p>
<p>Christine: The market itself is about 14 acres, but the Eastern Market district is about 37 acres, and we are an authentic working food district in the city of Detroit. We&#8217;re at about 90% capacity of those food businesses. There are a lot of these produce houses that have been here for as long as the market has been here. Multi-generational produce houses that continue to distribute produce to restaurants and other retailers and food service outfits all over Michigan. We have Wigley&#8217;s Meats and corned beef manufacturers that have been making corned beef here for years and years.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of interesting food businesses that are kind of under the radar here for years and years and years. They are growing and expanding. Their need for more land and their need to grow has begun to put a challenge on the Eastern Market because we like to maintain those food businesses here. If they go away, then the character of this place changes. We want to keep them in the Eastern Market District. We may want to move them just a little bit north of us, but we want to be able to back fill food businesses in those businesses places.</p>
<p>We have about 25 food businesses that either want to come into Eastern Market or are looking for land to expand. It&#8217;s a great problem to have, but it&#8217;s a challenge that we&#8217;re working on right now.</p>
<p>We just completed a stake holder analysis of the neighborhood for a strategic plan for 2025. We asked the residents and the businesses what they wanted to see for Eastern Market in the next 25 years. We want to keep it a working food district. We want it to grow. It&#8217;s an exciting place; it&#8217;s exciting places for business.</p>
<p>We also just completed, for those of you not familiar, the Dequindre Cut is a rails-to-trails bike path that was expanded. It used to go from the Detroit riverfront all the way up to Gratiot Avenue. Now it runs alongside the east side of the market with an access point to the market. It&#8217;s a great path, and it improves accessibility to the market. It connects to Midtown, and it&#8217;s a great addition. That path is going to spur on more retail, more people who are going to want to live in this area, so we need to manage that for us. We want to make sure that it doesn&#8217;t become gentrified, it doesn&#8217;t lose it&#8217;s authenticity. These are things that we really are trying to make sure that we maintain a good solid balance going forward.</p>
<p>Romy: One of the things that I noticed, the fundraising efforts and all the strategic growth around the Eastern Market, something that struck me so much is that you guys are acutely observant about what&#8217;s happening around you and paying attention. Not just capturing the information once and moving forward, but my sense is that there&#8217;s this ongoing paying attention. I see, we talked about this earlier, that you guys are not waiting to collect every possible piece of information before you take a step, you&#8217;re just going and gathering the information then.</p>
<p>Christine: I would say that we&#8217;re like a 747, that we&#8217;re building as we&#8217;re flying. It is, it&#8217;s crazy. What we get to do, it&#8217;s a great job to have; we get to take chances. When we get a grant, it&#8217;s based on an idea that we think we&#8217;re going to be successful with, but we&#8217;re not 100% sure and that&#8217;s the beauty of a grant. We get to take these great chances to see if we can create a program that can work, that can sustain itself over the years.</p>
<p>Considering that we continue to get these grants, from the state of Michigan, from the US government, they see that we&#8217;re actually being successful. They wouldn&#8217;t continue to grant us money if we didn&#8217;t do what we said we were going to do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great opportunity to learn, to make improvements.</p>
<p>One of the things that we&#8217;re really starting to do now is that we&#8217;ve gone out, we&#8217;ve created these programs, now it&#8217;s time to double back and say, &#8220;Are they really meeting the objectives that we really set out to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>In some cases, it didn&#8217;t do what we thought it was going to do, but it ended up doing something unexpected and great and still worth while. Take our Farm Stamp program. We started that program as a food access program and a way to get produce into different neighborhoods. We call it our farm stamp or mobile pop-up market. In that program, we have about 20 sites that we visit in the summer. One-third of those sites are corporate sites, one-third of those sites are hospital sites, and one-third of those sites are neighborhood sites.</p>
<p>That program started out of the back of my bosses Subaru and had migrated into three veggie vans, a bus hauling food all over...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-eastern-market-detroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1533</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/4927c8f4-1540-4cb7-a178-24820adc23bf/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:40:29 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8229f508-c207-4bfe-b27d-c4fd471180e6/easternmarketfull.mp3" length="58710554" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>40:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Eastern Market Corporation in Detroit interviewed by Romy on location!  Learn about one of the oldest open-air farm markets in the United States and discover the grand plans for the expansion of food entrepreneurialism from start to scale! Romy speaks with Christine Quane about the history and expansion efforts that will sustainably serve a community!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Assemble Sound of Detroit Artist Collaboration#46</title><itunes:title>S2: Assemble Sound of Detroit Artist Collaboration#46</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Assemble Sound with Garret Koehler </strong></p>
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<p>Listen in as Romy interviews Garret Koehler about newly launched Assemble Sound in Detroit. Garret and his founder team share how they began to catalog music and how they created a central collaboration space in an old abandoned church.</p>
<p>Full transcript here:</p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is another inspiring story of someone identifying a need and doing something about it. Today you&#8217;ll meet Garret Koehler of Assemble Sound. As you will learn, Garret observed that the local music artists of Detroit were not easily collaborating, and in many cases leaving town to find places to produce music elsewhere.</p>
<p>He discovered quickly that there&#8217;s an enormous amount of talent in the Detroit market, and was able to come up with a concept to bring them all together. By the way, all of the music you hear on this podcast show, from the openers, all the transition sounds, and the songs we play at the end are all from Detroit artists, curated by Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>One more thing that I think is just really sassy is that they bought this old abandoned church and renovated it into this amazing collaborative space. It dramatically adds to the flavor of Assemble Sound when you&#8217;re there. I went there for this interview. Before we move too far, let&#8217;s see what Jentzen has prepared for us, as a fun fuel for this episode.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Did you know that Jacopo Peri was considered the first composer. Peri wrote the first ever opera song in the late 15th century called Daphne. Now Daphne was written for John Adams to sing, and John Adams was one of the leading figures in the contemporary opera world. Just to be clear, this is not the same John Adams who was the Second U.S. President.</p>
<p>Now since no music had survived from ancient Greece, Peri had to take his best guess at how music should sound. Now this story spoke to me because I feel that Assemble Sound is playing a similar role in reviving Detroit music.</p>
<p>Romy: Thanks, Jentzen. Interesting info for sure. I want to thank personally everyone who has been submitting guesses for the mystery sound, sending questions into the mailbag. You make the show more interesting. If you&#8217;d like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website and click the Patreon link. We have some great supplemental content there for you.</p>
<p>Okay. Let&#8217;s meet our guest of the episode. Garret Koehler.</p>
<p>Garret, will you tell us, at a real high level, first about Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>Garret: Yeah, I can do that. First of all, I&#8217;m just super happy to be asked to do this, and to be part of this conversation that you guys are having on an ongoing basis. I know that the conversation is high level, and you&#8217;ve had some great people on. I think that I speak for the whole [inaudible <span>[00:02:43]</span> community when I say that we&#8217;re just humbled and excited that you even think that were interesting or worthy to be a part of this podcast.</p>
<p>As far as what Assemble Sound is, it&#8217;s essentially an initiative in Detroit to more effectively connect musicians here to each other, both across genres and within genres, and then to take that more connected community, and the city of Detroit community musicians and connect it to the broader music loving world, is what we like to say. That includes listeners, who love music. It includes purchasers of music, whether they&#8217;re editors at film houses in L.A., who are trying to pick songs for a movie or a TV show, or producers at an ad agency in New York, who are trying to pick music for a commercial.</p>
<p>Our goal is to connect really the community here and then...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Assemble Sound with Garret Koehler </strong></p>
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<p>Listen in as Romy interviews Garret Koehler about newly launched Assemble Sound in Detroit. Garret and his founder team share how they began to catalog music and how they created a central collaboration space in an old abandoned church.</p>
<p>Full transcript here:</p>
<p>Romy: Welcome to another episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise. This episode is another inspiring story of someone identifying a need and doing something about it. Today you&#8217;ll meet Garret Koehler of Assemble Sound. As you will learn, Garret observed that the local music artists of Detroit were not easily collaborating, and in many cases leaving town to find places to produce music elsewhere.</p>
<p>He discovered quickly that there&#8217;s an enormous amount of talent in the Detroit market, and was able to come up with a concept to bring them all together. By the way, all of the music you hear on this podcast show, from the openers, all the transition sounds, and the songs we play at the end are all from Detroit artists, curated by Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>One more thing that I think is just really sassy is that they bought this old abandoned church and renovated it into this amazing collaborative space. It dramatically adds to the flavor of Assemble Sound when you&#8217;re there. I went there for this interview. Before we move too far, let&#8217;s see what Jentzen has prepared for us, as a fun fuel for this episode.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Did you know that Jacopo Peri was considered the first composer. Peri wrote the first ever opera song in the late 15th century called Daphne. Now Daphne was written for John Adams to sing, and John Adams was one of the leading figures in the contemporary opera world. Just to be clear, this is not the same John Adams who was the Second U.S. President.</p>
<p>Now since no music had survived from ancient Greece, Peri had to take his best guess at how music should sound. Now this story spoke to me because I feel that Assemble Sound is playing a similar role in reviving Detroit music.</p>
<p>Romy: Thanks, Jentzen. Interesting info for sure. I want to thank personally everyone who has been submitting guesses for the mystery sound, sending questions into the mailbag. You make the show more interesting. If you&#8217;d like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website and click the Patreon link. We have some great supplemental content there for you.</p>
<p>Okay. Let&#8217;s meet our guest of the episode. Garret Koehler.</p>
<p>Garret, will you tell us, at a real high level, first about Assemble Sound.</p>
<p>Garret: Yeah, I can do that. First of all, I&#8217;m just super happy to be asked to do this, and to be part of this conversation that you guys are having on an ongoing basis. I know that the conversation is high level, and you&#8217;ve had some great people on. I think that I speak for the whole [inaudible <span>[00:02:43]</span> community when I say that we&#8217;re just humbled and excited that you even think that were interesting or worthy to be a part of this podcast.</p>
<p>As far as what Assemble Sound is, it&#8217;s essentially an initiative in Detroit to more effectively connect musicians here to each other, both across genres and within genres, and then to take that more connected community, and the city of Detroit community musicians and connect it to the broader music loving world, is what we like to say. That includes listeners, who love music. It includes purchasers of music, whether they&#8217;re editors at film houses in L.A., who are trying to pick songs for a movie or a TV show, or producers at an ad agency in New York, who are trying to pick music for a commercial.</p>
<p>Our goal is to connect really the community here and then connect that community to people outside of Detroit who love music.</p>
<p>Romy: Cool. If you listen to the very beginning of this episode, the music as our opener on this podcast is here from Assemble Sound. How did you originally connect all this together, Garret?</p>
<p>Yeah. This is a project that really found its genesis a little over a year ago. I&#8217;d been doing shows in the city, putting on shows as sort of a promoter, and I guess you&#8217;d say an organizer in the music space. We had done a pretty show with a couple of different bands. It was Passalacqua, it was Tunde Olaniran, Flint Eastwood, and a bunch of DJs around it. After the show, it was primarily Flint Eastwood that sat down with me, Flint Eastwood&#8217;s Jax Anderson and Seth Anderson and brother is a songwriter behind the group. We were talking about Detroit and the state of the music scene here, and there is, I think, an overwhelming feeling amongst the music community that this is a city that is sort of inexplicably rich in its music output.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like no one knows why Detroit has been able to put out such great music for so many years, not just within one genre, but across so many genres. This is really an amazing place to make music. It&#8217;s a really difficult place to find sustainability as a musician. The story over time has been the great musicians from the city, essentially after Motown left. Motown was the end of the &#8217;50s and then by &#8217;72 Motown moved out to L.A.</p>
<p>After Motown had left, some of the major labels had offices here but for the most part with the downsizing of the industry, which really climaxed in the early 2000s, you had all the majors shut down their offices in Detroit, and you really didn&#8217;t have an industry presence here. What you saw was &#8230; Since Motown left, most of the major artists who have been from Detroit have found success in other cities. It made sense, I think. Think about Jack White, and him really blowing up and defining garage rock in Detroit. But he set up his Third Man Records in Nashville.</p>
<p>You think of Eminem, who still lives outside the city and built his whole career here. But Shady Records is based out of New York. I think it&#8217;s great for the city that both of those institutions exist and sort of represent Detroit in both national and New York. But I think it does speak to this pattern that we&#8217;ve seen in the city when it comes to musicians who really build their craft here but then have to leave to find really sustainability.</p>
<p>Flint Eastwood, when I sat down with him at the table, the conversation really became, is there a way we can keep them from leaving, from going to L.A., from going to Nashville, from going to New York, and the short answer was, we&#8217;re not sure. But we thought the one thing that we know to be true about the scene that we think would be a starting point would be to address the fact that the music scene in Detroit, though being very rich, is very fragmented.</p>
<p>You have a lot of artists across genres, doing really amazing things, musically, but they&#8217;re sort of working in isolation from one another. You have all of these different people excelling in their own genres, but they&#8217;re not working together, they&#8217;re not necessarily sharing knowledge, and the idea was could we create an environment that facilitated artist development simply by creating a space that convened musicians, that convene them to be creative, that convene them to learn together.</p>
<p>We committed, I think, during that moment of let&#8217;s do this and decided to call it Assemble Sound at the time, I was doing shows behind the brand name Assemble. I decided let&#8217;s focus Assemble&#8217;s mission and make it all about music, let&#8217;s make it really targeted. What we did is we said we&#8217;re going to commit Assemble to that broad mission and then obviously the next question is, all right, we&#8217;ve got sort of vision at a really high level of what we want to do. But how do we do that? What do we actually do to connect Detroit musicians to each other? The idea was to build a music studio that facilitates collaborative songwriting between musicians across genres in the city, and have that space be small enough to be conducive to recording, but big enough to also double as a community space, a space where we could bring musicians in for album preview listening sessions where you all sit down and listen to sort of the rough mixes for a new album, and you can all give feedback on it.</p>
<p>The idea was really a space that holds musicians out of their home studios, out of their practice spaces, not permanently. They&#8217;re still going to work in their home studios. You don&#8217;t need to go to a multimillion dollar studio anymore to make music. But a space that had a community that incentivizes people to get out of their home studios and then sent them back into the studios a little bit more informed and more connected. I think that we&#8217;re still waiting to see what the impact of a more connected music community in the city could mean. But I think the underlying potential of creating a big music community across a genre that sort of works in concert with one another is huge because the music industry has been one of the most complicated industries in the world for so long. But actually, it might be the most simple industry when you just reduce it to its most simple form, which is people making music and building an audience and that they&#8217;re trying to do it sustainably. They&#8217;re usually trying to figure out a way to monetize their relationship with their audience.</p>
<p>If music and the industry are just about creating and building an audience, the question is how do you build an audience. Most of the time you build an audience by finding outlets for your work. In the digital age, outlets for your work can just mean other musicians who are tweeting about your work, or sharing your work on any sort of social media outlet or taking your work and remixing it and posting it on a digital distribution channel like SoundCloud. It&#8217;s like you start to leverage each other&#8217;s audiences to build each other&#8217;s audiences up.</p>
<p>Historically, it&#8217;s been a much more top to bottom process of just hopefully getting signed to a label who has access to these major distribution channels like radio, who can push out your music to the masses, but music reaches the masses in a very different way. It&#8217;s a much more egalitarian way, democratic way. I think that we can sort of leverage the democratization of both the creation and the consumption of music to sort of create whole new models for developing artists&#8217; talent.</p>
<p>There is both a social mission to what Assemble Sound does in terms of connecting musicians; that&#8217;s first and foremost what we&#8217;re focused on. But I think there&#8217;s also a real economic effect that is always guiding the way that we&#8217;re thinking about it. Sometimes I call working class musicians, WCM, how do we create more working class musicians in the city of Detroit. That&#8217;s the other thing that we&#8217;re focused on. We don&#8217;t run the studio like a typical recording studio, as a business. We try to create opportunities for artists in the city by connecting them with licensing opportunities, or essentially placing music in either TV shows or film or commercial advertising. But again we have a catalog of music that instead of just being like any music from around the country we&#8217;ll put in this catalog and shop it around to producers; we&#8217;re very very focused on building a catalog that ranges from techno to punk, but shares a geography right. It&#8217;s all sort of southeast Michigan artists because the idea then is that when you approach the ad agency you can say when you spend money with us on music, you&#8217;re directly impacting the creative community that you build your business in.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re talking to an ad agency they&#8217;re thinking about, man how do I hire a Michigan grad to come to Detroit instead of going to Chicago. Well, part of that sell is Detroit&#8217;s got an amazing arts scene. If you&#8217;re an ad agency, I think you actually have a responsibility both to yourself and to your community to invest in the creative community that you exist in. I&#8217;m not asking you to do it altruistically. I&#8217;m saying one, the music is as good as any music you&#8217;re going to get from anywhere else, and two by putting an extra $3000 into an artist&#8217;s pocket because you use their song in a 15-second Instagram spot. What you&#8217;ve done is given them the money they need to bolster their live show, which is the show that your employee is going to go see on the weekend.</p>
<p>The whole Assemble is very much about building that community, but I think that we&#8217;re also conscious of the fact that you need to inject that community with capital to make it sustainable. We oftentimes talk here about closing the gap between capital and creativity within the context of community. I think I gave you a very long explanation, sorry, for the way the genesis of Assemble came in, but it was really about how do we create opportunities for local musicians in Detroit. The hypothesis was what we started with connecting each other. That&#8217;s really what we&#8217;re focused on is connecting musicians.</p>
<p>Romy: What gave you the idea, specifically, to catalog all artists?</p>
<p>Garret: The idea for the studio actually, Seth, one of the partners, his dream had been to build this studio that facilitate a collaborative songwriting because it was something he and Jax did a lot when they were down in L.A. They said, we go to four or five sessions a week, and we&#8217;d be sitting in with artists that we didn&#8217;t even know, and we&#8217;d be writing together. It was the sort of really an incredible environment where you just had to learn how to find similarities with people you can find similarities with, and it was really motivating. There was this collective sense of momentum.</p>
<p>He just wanted to create that in Detroit where he saw the sort of fragmentation. The original idea was you think we could get foundation funding or make this a nonprofit studio. I just believe there&#8217;s still a lot of value in music. I know it intuitively, I think you and all your listeners know it intuitively right, that music it has value. The question is, does it still have monetary value, and it does. That was sort of the realization that I had as we started talking about this was there is still money in music, and we started doing our research, and it became really clear that a lot of the money when you&#8217;re not talking about touring, when you&#8217;re not talking about live shows, most of the money music is in sync licensing, which is placing music and all the channels that I mentioned earlier, TV, film, advertising.</p>
<p>I actually think that opportunity is only going to grow as more and more content hits the Internet, as more and more content hits the Internet. You see channels like YouTube starting to clamp down on the illegal use of music, as more of these what were just social platforms now try to figure out how to monetize. All of the sudden they&#8217;re monetizing on music that if you haven&#8217;t got the rights to, you&#8217;re illegally making money off something.</p>
<p>I think the opportunities are going to grow in licensing, and we looked at sort of the marketplace for licensing, and we said, there&#8217;s a lot of companies who do it really well. But no one&#8217;s trying to really target a geography with their licensing revenue. We just thought that it would be really interesting to catalog the music of our geography.</p>
<p>I think Detroit might be unique in that sense. It&#8217;s why Detroit, from so many reasons, is the perfect place you&#8217;re going to find a whole rock scene here that will challenge anyone&#8217;s rock scene in terms of its quality. But then you&#8217;re going to go, and you&#8217;re going to find a whole techno scene that&#8217;s going to challenge any electronic production scene in the world.</p>
<p>The diversity of music you find in the city really makes it conducive to cataloging. What&#8217;s cool about Detroit is all of that music is here, and it&#8217;s here in really great quality and massive quantity. It was pretty much the first thing we started doing. We got connected with Nicole Churchill, who is now a partner here. She&#8217;s brilliant when it comes to the whole licensing in music supervision world. We just started attacking. We met with musician after musician, and we said, your hard drive sitting in the closet that could be making you money. It&#8217;s not making you any money when it sits on a hard drive in your closet.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t want to make money, cool, but if you&#8217;re interested in getting this in a catalog and having it pitched, that&#8217;s something we can do. We spent pretty much the last year building up that catalog. There&#8217;s a lot of overhead just in terms of time with us. Key wording all the music has to be key worded by genre, instrumentation, musical comparisons of bands they sound like. Essentially, anything you might search, if you needed music. You need to be able to type in a keyword, and then it&#8217;ll pull up a track in our catalog. There&#8217;s a lot of overhead.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re really interested in is creating a software platform that allows artists to keyword their own music in a way that&#8217;s appropriate for licensing and then feed that data into our backend catalog. They have access to all the associated front end analytics, so if we&#8217;ve got clients, who are searching music and playing stuff on our catalog, the artists who are keyboarding and providing all that music on the back end themselves, also have access to a dashboard that would show them which tracks clients are listening to the most, and it allows them to start to tailor some of their more commercial-oriented creative work towards like what clients actually are listening to. We really are trying to build out a more artist-centric framework for licensing that&#8217;s the goal.</p>
<p>Romy: Let&#8217;s transition. We&#8217;re sitting in a really cool side room of a church that&#8217;s been renovated. Let&#8217;s touch on the place because you pick this out really thoughtfully around this convening notion, right. Will you give us a tour of that story?</p>
<p>Garret: Yeah, for sure. I think the vision was to convene musicians. It was really to convene musicians around this shared belief in creative collaboration and economic cooperation. The idea that both of those things can be a foundation for success for musicians and for the local music scene that those musicians participate in. We thought where historically have people convened around shared beliefs, in churches right. The cool thing about Detroit is there&#8217;s a ton of churches, and there&#8217;s a ton of abandoned churches and underutilized churches. I think most of your listeners probably, at this point, are aware of the narrative of Detroit in decades and decades of economic decline, and what that did to the physical landscape of the city in one of the things that anyone who drives through the city realizes that there are churches everywhere.</p>
<p>We realized that acoustically a church would be]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-assemble-sound-of-detroit-artist-collaboration-social-enterprise]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1518</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b3be3c31-1edd-4e60-a089-a5f5bc1a8802/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:39:42 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3f957594-b7e7-4b1b-9550-256403ca3db0/assemblesoundfullmixdown.mp3" length="51344714" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>35:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Listen in as Romy interviews Garret Koehler about newly launched Assemble Sound in Detroit. Garret and his founder team share how they began to catalog music and how they created a central collaboration space in an old abandoned church.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Jessica Robinson Intro: Bonfires on the Move#45</title><itunes:title>S2: Jessica Robinson Intro: Bonfires on the Move#45</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Bonfires on the Move!  Technology solving mobility issues!</p>
<p>Meet the new host of Bonfires on the Move,  Jessica Robinson.  Jessica and Romy discuss her new segment and the types of guests she will be interviewing. As technology is used to solve mobility issues, Jessica will be bringing front-line trends and fresh ideas to our listeners. Social Enterprise has technology all over it!</p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: So I&#8217;m talking today with Jessica Robinson for the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. It looks like we&#8217;ve had such popularity with some of the guests that she&#8217;s identified, that we&#8217;re going to start a regular segment with you, Jessica. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re talking about today.<br />
Jessica: Yeah, I&#8217;m so excited, Romy. I can&#8217;t wait to do this.<br />
Romy: (Laughs) I know. Me, too. Hey, I just thought, we&#8217;d let the listeners know how we connected. You and I were guest judges at an event around social enterprise, and we connected there. And then you introduced me to one of our very popular guests from Season 1, from SPLT Fares. Do you want to tell me a little bit about what you were doing at the time?<br />
Jessica: Yes. So, as you mentioned, we met as co-judges, and I was excited to be part of that event focused on social enterprise. But I met Anya, the founder of SPLT, uh, because she had brought her company to Detroit as part of the very first Techstars Mobility program here in the city. And when I met you and heard what you were working on and had been talking to Anya about their vision for her company, it just seemed like a perfect fit, and I had to put you two in touch.<br />
Romy: (Laughs). Yeah, and that was such a gift because she is so great. Her whole team, they&#8217;re just tremendous. And then as you and I kept in touch, it seemed obvious that there was a lot of folks that you were identifying around this, using technology to solve mobility issues. And I think you and me just kind of organically said, &#8220;Hey, we might have enough content here. Let&#8217;s see if we can do a regular monthly episode, huh?&#8221;<br />
Jessica: Yeah. I think it&#8217;s great. And as I started to think about the types of folks that we could bring on to the show or expose to the listeners here, I just keep getting more excited. There&#8217;s just so much happening in the space right now and attention to the way we move and get around here, not just in the US but really across the globe, that this is the perfect timing for this conversation.<br />
Romy: Jessica, I know, just for the listeners, your bio will be online, but could you give them just a little bit of a feel of your background?<br />
Jessica: Yeah, I&#8217;d be glad to. It&#8217;s, funny when you always try and think of telling your story of how you got to this point because there&#8217;s so many bits and pieces of my background that I really see, have brought me into this place right now and just my love for transportation and mobility. I had a chance to work at Zipcar, which is the world&#8217;s leading, car sharing organization for a number of years. I started with them all the way back in 2007 when the idea of new mobility solutions and mobility technology was still very early. And I remember many conversations at the time, people laughing or doubting that this would ever change anything here in the US.<br />
So with Zipcar, I did a number of different things, everything from marketing to building the community membership base to, something a little more boring [sounding] but actually really interesting, which was managing parking for the company in San Francisco. And in doing so, I had a chance to get a glimpse at a different side of business, which I think comes full circle in many ways now, and that was working with city officials who were really trying to...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonfires on the Move!  Technology solving mobility issues!</p>
<p>Meet the new host of Bonfires on the Move,  Jessica Robinson.  Jessica and Romy discuss her new segment and the types of guests she will be interviewing. As technology is used to solve mobility issues, Jessica will be bringing front-line trends and fresh ideas to our listeners. Social Enterprise has technology all over it!</p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript</strong></p>
<p>Romy: So I&#8217;m talking today with Jessica Robinson for the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. It looks like we&#8217;ve had such popularity with some of the guests that she&#8217;s identified, that we&#8217;re going to start a regular segment with you, Jessica. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re talking about today.<br />
Jessica: Yeah, I&#8217;m so excited, Romy. I can&#8217;t wait to do this.<br />
Romy: (Laughs) I know. Me, too. Hey, I just thought, we&#8217;d let the listeners know how we connected. You and I were guest judges at an event around social enterprise, and we connected there. And then you introduced me to one of our very popular guests from Season 1, from SPLT Fares. Do you want to tell me a little bit about what you were doing at the time?<br />
Jessica: Yes. So, as you mentioned, we met as co-judges, and I was excited to be part of that event focused on social enterprise. But I met Anya, the founder of SPLT, uh, because she had brought her company to Detroit as part of the very first Techstars Mobility program here in the city. And when I met you and heard what you were working on and had been talking to Anya about their vision for her company, it just seemed like a perfect fit, and I had to put you two in touch.<br />
Romy: (Laughs). Yeah, and that was such a gift because she is so great. Her whole team, they&#8217;re just tremendous. And then as you and I kept in touch, it seemed obvious that there was a lot of folks that you were identifying around this, using technology to solve mobility issues. And I think you and me just kind of organically said, &#8220;Hey, we might have enough content here. Let&#8217;s see if we can do a regular monthly episode, huh?&#8221;<br />
Jessica: Yeah. I think it&#8217;s great. And as I started to think about the types of folks that we could bring on to the show or expose to the listeners here, I just keep getting more excited. There&#8217;s just so much happening in the space right now and attention to the way we move and get around here, not just in the US but really across the globe, that this is the perfect timing for this conversation.<br />
Romy: Jessica, I know, just for the listeners, your bio will be online, but could you give them just a little bit of a feel of your background?<br />
Jessica: Yeah, I&#8217;d be glad to. It&#8217;s, funny when you always try and think of telling your story of how you got to this point because there&#8217;s so many bits and pieces of my background that I really see, have brought me into this place right now and just my love for transportation and mobility. I had a chance to work at Zipcar, which is the world&#8217;s leading, car sharing organization for a number of years. I started with them all the way back in 2007 when the idea of new mobility solutions and mobility technology was still very early. And I remember many conversations at the time, people laughing or doubting that this would ever change anything here in the US.<br />
So with Zipcar, I did a number of different things, everything from marketing to building the community membership base to, something a little more boring [sounding] but actually really interesting, which was managing parking for the company in San Francisco. And in doing so, I had a chance to get a glimpse at a different side of business, which I think comes full circle in many ways now, and that was working with city officials who were really trying to grapple with what do we do as civic leaders when we have all of these new companies and startups coming in. They were concerned about risk and what happens to my voters if they get in an accident or what does this mean for meter revenue in my city. Lots of different questions. And I really enjoyed grappling with them together and really being on the forefront of that.<br />
So I was with Zipcar for a number of years, and that actually led me to Detroit. I was working on a new market expansion for the company and had an opportunity to present to the company leaders a list of cities that I thought we should go to next. And much to their surprise, Detroit was one of those cities. And for me, having a chance to step back and look at North America and the places that, there was both the business opportunity but a need, Detroit was one of them that came to mind, for many reasons. And I vividly remember that presentation to the leaders around the big board room. I think our CEO probably dropped his cup of coffee on the floor.<br />
I had a chance to see some things about the city that, maybe others haven&#8217;t yet in terms of, both the economic investment that was going on here, but again, also the need given the context with that just the broad geography, how big of a city we are here but also the availability of public transportation and just how car-dependent we are here.<br />
So long story short, apparently I was persuasive enough to convince the company that Detroit was one of the cities that we should expand in along with much larger ones like you&#8217;ve seen in Dallas. And I was lucky enough to lead the project. It brought me to the city, and I couldn&#8217;t leave. I was here. I started to make really good friends, really good business connections. And I think the second cup of coffee that somebody dropped was when I called my boss and said, &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;d like to move to Detroit from Portland, Oregon!&#8221;<br />
And so there&#8217;s a quite a long pause this time on the phone, and we talked through, and it made sense. That&#8217;s how I wound up in the motor city. I&#8217;ve been here for a couple of years. So again, Detroit&#8217;s Zipcar is kind of what brought me to this phase. But I think some of these roots go deeper. Before I worked at Zipcar, I actually had a chance to work in the tea importing, which is a pretty specialized segment of the world. But what I really took from that time was the company I was with was focused on fair trade and organic products. And as a young person in business, what I really learned was that you can have a viable business model but also still do good for people and the planet, and it didn&#8217;t have to be an earthy, crunchy type of a thing. It actually could make really strong business sense. So those roots very much have stuck with me throughout all of it.<br />
And so, with those roots in mind, that kind of brings us to today, where I work focusing on innovation within organizations that are very, very large, Fortune 500, but marrying them with startups. So it could be a couple of founders with an idea all the way again to innovation and investment departments at some of the world&#8217;s leading brands. And I feel really lucky that I have the chance to see these innovators as early on and starting to piece together exactly what it means to run their business but in mobility, specifically, the impact that they want to have.<br />
It&#8217;s a little bit about my background. If anyone is also interested to know, I absolutely love bicycling, and I think that&#8217;s a part I can&#8217;t leave out. And for me, the bike represents so much. It&#8217;s a very simple technology, but it&#8217;s been around forever. And I think if you&#8217;d think about what the bicycle means to kids, it&#8217;s one of our first tastes of freedom. And for me, I grew up in the suburbs where the bike was the first chance I got to kind of leave home and explore on my own. But I started as a bike commuter when I lived in Seattle and really believe in its potential as part of the transportation mobility solutions, for us here in the US and globally for the future. So, don&#8217;t be surprised if a bike makes its way, in here and there because I really am passionate about what the bike means.<br />
Romy: (Laughs) That&#8217;s so great. As soon as you said that about the bicycle, I was transported back to my first bicycle that I was able to buy I remember with my babysitting money. And to me, it just represented pure freedom to move around. And what a nice circle back around because so many of these mobility issues affect people in this sort of rip-tied way. It can affect their employment. It can affect so many things including things like food access right here in Detroit.<br />
When you talked about your last position there, and you were starting to watch a lot of this innovation, were you surprised Jessica at how many different issues technologies can solve with mobility?<br />
Jessica: Yeah. I think so what&#8217;s interesting is entrepreneurs will believe in their technology with such passion. And I think sometimes they&#8217;d only see one piece of it. I&#8217;ve been really lucky to be involved in a number of different aspects of it. So I can see a little bit more of the system and the pieces all coming together. And I think transportation, you mentioned its access to food, its access to jobs; it &#8216;s actually a critical piece of our infrastructure and our lives.<br />
And I think about the conversations that I had with people talking about car sharing, and it becomes very personal very quickly. And for some, it means saving for a vacation. For some, it means being able to go back to school. But it&#8217;s really easy to forget that in America, the numbers are actually really staggering, that transportation is actually the second largest household expense after the cost of our houses themselves. And it&#8217;s, for most people, it&#8217;s about a quarter of our income we spend on transportation if we&#8217;re in a car-dependent area.<br />
So when you think about technology, it could be something as simple as a car that&#8217;s more fuel-efficient. That is a major savings and a major impact. It could be something that encourages us getting to work with co-workers like SPLT. Or it could be something much bigger that. We haven&#8217;t even thought of yet. That&#8217;s what I love is the overlay of the technology, the personal, and what does it mean for cities and how we plan and think about the future.</p>
<p>Romy: There&#8217;s so much that could be done there. I think you&#8217;re right that transportation just is in every part of our living and being in today&#8217;s world. And the timing and history for us to even be doing this particular show are amazing. And we almost couldn&#8217;t have done this ten years ago just because all of the factors weren&#8217;t lining up. People now desire to solve social issues. I find everywhere we travel around the globe, there&#8217;s such a heart to how people are turning their attention to others even though it appears as (laughs) it&#8217;s all about iPhones and my picture in this. I still find this incredible current of people turning their attention to others solving the social issues.<br />
Is there anything that surprised you, Jessica, about what could be solved with, with the technology?</p>
<p>Jessica: I think things that come to mind are the enthusiasm of some of these entrepreneurs. They would probably tell you, no, nothing is unsolvable with technology. But I think that some of those bigger issues that we&#8217;re facing. We talked a little bit about household income. And that&#8217;s very personal, but you can take it to the other level, the stream of macro and global issues. And one of the things that I&#8217;ve been thinking about a lot lately, given not just the recent discussions in Paris around climate change and COP21. But just air pollution and something as literally as small air particles, but how big of an impact that has on global health. And I was just reading it&#8217;s a crazy number, something like 2 million people a year in Europe and China, they actually die due to complications related to air pollution. And most of the cause of that air pollution is smog, which is really Detroit&#8217;s transportation choices.<br />
I&#8217;m lucky enough to be here in the US where we have strong regulatory controls. But I think about transportation technology and these innovations that are happening in China and India, where it&#8217;s completely business driven, but it&#8217;s going to have a massive impact on the people there. So, I am, I guess, a technologist at heart and a hopeful at heart that these technologies can take on these big challenges. I think the flip side is we always have to consider the human impact of that because it&#8217;s very easy to prioritize technology, maybe without knowing what it&#8217;s going to do or, really have [a clear] grasp of it yet before we launch it out there.<br />
I think about the heads-up displays in cars which make sure that we&#8217;re not looking down at our iPhones and cell phones and texting and tweeting while we&#8217;re driving. There&#8217;s a lot of technology to come, which will hopefully influence and significantly impact that way we&#8217;re getting around.</p>
<p>Romy: Yeah. I think I just heard of once; someone told me that they already have the technology to put podcast channels in cars, which really excites me (laughs).</p>
<p>Jessica: There we go. I like that one, too.</p>
<p>Romy: So getting back to some of those things, what are you noticing is maybe trends? Or what are you observing [right] now while we&#8217;re preparing the show in early 2016?</p>
<p>Jessica: Yeah. Well, oh my gosh, there&#8217;s just so much happening. I mean, literally, as we speak, companies are making announcements left and right at the Consumer Electronic Show out in Las Vegas. And it&#8217;s a little, a little bit industry insider but that show really has come to be a place where auto manufacturers of all companies are making their big launches and kind of big statements for the year. So we&#8217;ve got that going on. We have the auto show coming here to Detroit just next week.<br />
I&#8217;m actually headed out this weekend to a little event called The Transportation Camp, which is part of the National Academy of Sciences annual meeting for their Transportation Research Board. So these are some of the top thinkers in academic jobs around the world coming together to share white papers about the research that they&#8217;re doing. But this transportation camp is kind of younger professionals, students who are working with these leaders to say, &#8220;Okay, we&#8217;ve got the white paper, we&#8217;ve got the knowledge, but how are we actually going to put something into action now?&#8221; So I&#8217;m really excited to go out and be part of those conversations there.<br />
And then I just feel like mobility is in the news every day. It probably is because it&#8217;s my world. But there&#8217;s crazy things, too, like, we&#8217;re still learning about bike sharing here in the US, where instead of owning a bike, you can borrow one, through a program in the city. In Europe, they have cargo bike sharing so that you can, go to your local home construction store and stock up on your home supplies or pick up your kids after school. So I love, getting snippets of what&#8217;s happening in other countries and thinking about what that might mean for impact or opportunity here in the US.<br />
It&#8217;s funny, a friend just asked me the other day, and he said, &#8220;What do you think your top mobility trends are for the year?&#8221; And I kind of thought for a minute, and I had a couple. One is data. And, in technology, it&#8217;s something we hear a lot about. Everyone wants to be a platform or create access to data as their kind of strategic business model. But I really do think this year in mobility tech; that &#8216;s going to come to a whole new level. And companies or government or whoever is involved that are thinking about, not just capturing data and kind of using it internally, but leveraging the numbers that the activity is creating to generate new knowledge about where people want to go, what they want to do, what they&#8217;re willing to pay, the time, whatever it is, I think data is going to be a big trend for this year.<br />
Related to that is actually a connection between services. We started to see this for a little while between, let&#8217;s say, a parking app that can tell you where to park your car, maybe partnered with a rental car. But I actually think this year, the connection is going to come to a lot more between public and private services. We saw an announcement just the end of 2015 that lift the ride sharing. The company had partnered with [Dart] in Dallas to bring the two services together and make it more seamless. I think that&#8217;s going to be a big trend this year is a lot of different companies, groups, agencies, talking together probably in the form of data.<br />
Bikes, I threw out just because I&#8217;m a chair for the underdog on this one. I actually do think we&#8217;ll see, especially here in the US, a lot of more focus on bikes, and bike infrastructure. And we know that in bicycling, feeling safe is a big part of people&#8217;s willingness to get out and try biking for the first time. So I&#8217;m always [inaudible <span>[00:20:44]</span> with bikes as I mentioned before.<br />
And then, kind of a wild card I throw out is, it&#8217;s a little nerdy but, insurance risk, how did we quantify risk in banking? We&#8217;re starting to see different kind of ownership models come into play beyond the car sharing or bike sharing that we have today where it might be fractional ownership or lease to own. There&#8217;s a company in Africa that I saw that is actually doing kind of the lease-to-own scheme for the motorcycle [lowped], which is quite honestly bringing a new transportation option to people that never were able to afford it before, and they&#8217;re actually able to own an asset. So, we&#8217;ll see where that goes. A lot of people are looking at that.</p>
<p>Romy: Oh, it&#8217;s fascinating. Jessica, I&#8217;m so excited that you&#8217;re going to be leading this and picking out guests for us. Could we give a feel of some of the profile types that we might be able to get on the show this year?</p>
<p>Jessica: Yeah, definitely. So the more I think about it, the more types of guests come to mind. Certainly I think some folks that we will be bringing on are those entrepreneurs that are at those young companies just getting started out, working on new technologies, whether it&#8217;s some new hardware piece that might go into a car or maybe it is a new app that people are looking at using. When I talk to entrepreneurs, what I&#8217;m excited about is many of them are solving a personal problem that they encountered or they saw. But what&#8217;s really exciting is with the [Global] influence, we have founders here in the US across the world, they have those different life experiences, so they&#8217;re solving a different set of problems than the first generation of mobility innovators we&#8217;re tackling.<br />
So, you&#8217;ve got people solving youth transportation issues, people looking at mobility in one of the original senses of the word, which is kind of physical mobility and, retirees and elder care, and what are, what are those transportation needs. So, I&#8217;m looking forward to having a broad set of entrepreneurs that are looking at solving different problems but actually bringing them to market. And I think that&#8217;s what&#8217;s cool with startups. Every time I have a chance to sit down with the founder, I&#8217;m perpetually struck by how quickly they&#8217;re able to take an idea and put some pieces into place and...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-jessica-robinson-intro-bonfires-on-the-move]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1508</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1d9674d1-e1c4-45e6-a621-94f4e9216432/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:48:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b14f775a-c03d-4f1b-92e0-25aec6ed282a/jessicarobinsonintrofullmixdown.mp3" length="44494983" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Bonfires on the Move!  Technology solving mobility issues! Meet the new host of Bonfires on the Move,  Jessica Robinson.  Jessica and Romy discuss her new segment and the types of guests she will be interviewing. As technology is used to solve mobility issues, Jessica will be bringing front-line trends and fresh ideas to our listeners.…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Hopeful Harvest with Chris Nemeth serving Detroit Food Manufacturing#44</title><itunes:title>S2: Hopeful Harvest with Chris Nemeth serving Detroit Food Manufacturing#44</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH3-1.jpe"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Chris_Photo.jpe"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH4-2.jpe"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1502" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH4-2.jpe" alt="HH4 (2)" width="275" height="183" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HHarvest_Logo-2.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1503" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HHarvest_Logo-2.png" alt="HHarvest_Logo (2)" width="114" height="114" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Chris Nemeth of Hopeful Harvest</strong></p>
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<p>Romy interviews Chris Nemeth of social enterprise Hopeful Harvest on Season 2 episode.  Chris gives an important look inside his operation and openly discusses the challenges of launching this type of endeavor and the challenges that arrive when growth happens quickly. Learn about his grand plans, the broader partnership with Forgotten Harvest, and how he has overcome by serving the food entrepreneurs in Detroit.</p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript:</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Hey, thanks for tuning in. This is Romy. I&#8217;ll be your host for this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Today, I&#8217;m interviewing Chris Nemeth in Oak Park, Michigan, which is just outside the border of Detroit. Hopeful Harvest is a food manufacturing company that helps food entrepreneurs with some of the &#8220;bottlenecks&#8221; to production when you&#8217;re just starting out. You&#8217;ll learn how Chris came up with the idea to begin to use the facility and how he grew so quickly and what some of the barriers are he&#8217;s facing today. It&#8217;s a very interesting story. Before we meet our future guest, we have a little something called the Fun Facts Fuel.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey, everyone. This is Jentzen. I have some fun fuel to spark this episode. Chris from Hopeful Harvest inspired me to check out some history on some of the first types of food manufacturing. Before I tell you what I found, I have a little fun fact about chickens.</p>
<p>Did you know wild chickens naturally produce roughly 15 eggs per year? However, farmers have bred chickens to lay 200 to 300 eggs per year. Wow, fascinating.</p>
<p>Now, back to my fun fuel. Today, I would like to share with you the top 10 most significant inventions in food and drink according to Megan Garber in the September 14, 2012, article in the Atlantic magazine. Okay. Here we go with the top 10. Number 10, the plow. Number 9, grinding and milling. Number 8, selective breeding. Number 7, the process of baking. Number 6, the threshing machine. Number 5, irrigation. Number 4, the oven. Number 3, the process of canning. Number 2, the process of pasteurization and sterilization. The number 1 food and drink invention was the refrigerator. All right. That&#8217;s all, folks. Hope you enjoy the show.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Jentzen. I want to give a shout out now to all of our patrons that are supporting us on Patreon. We appreciate you. If you&#8217;d like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website for the link to great supplemental content and connections.</p>
<p>All right. Let&#8217;s listen in to my interview with Chris Nemeth of Hopeful Harvest.</p>
<p>Welcome, Chris. Would you begin by telling us about Hopeful Harvest?</p>
<p>Chris: Thank you very much. Hopeful Harvest is a for-profit social enterprise that is an outgrowth from Forgotten Harvest, our non-profit. Forgotten Harvest is 1 of the largest fresh food rescue operations in the United States. We have 35 trucks that go out every day, six days a week, rescue fresh, healthy food from over 800 retail outlets. Then, we turn around and deliver that food to over 283 agencies throughout the metropolitan...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH3-1.jpe"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Chris_Photo.jpe"></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH4-2.jpe"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1502" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HH4-2.jpe" alt="HH4 (2)" width="275" height="183" /></a> <a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HHarvest_Logo-2.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-1503" src="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HHarvest_Logo-2.png" alt="HHarvest_Logo (2)" width="114" height="114" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Chris Nemeth of Hopeful Harvest</strong></p>
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<p>Romy interviews Chris Nemeth of social enterprise Hopeful Harvest on Season 2 episode.  Chris gives an important look inside his operation and openly discusses the challenges of launching this type of endeavor and the challenges that arrive when growth happens quickly. Learn about his grand plans, the broader partnership with Forgotten Harvest, and how he has overcome by serving the food entrepreneurs in Detroit.</p>
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<p><strong>Full transcript:</strong></p>
<p>Romy: Hey, thanks for tuning in. This is Romy. I&#8217;ll be your host for this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Today, I&#8217;m interviewing Chris Nemeth in Oak Park, Michigan, which is just outside the border of Detroit. Hopeful Harvest is a food manufacturing company that helps food entrepreneurs with some of the &#8220;bottlenecks&#8221; to production when you&#8217;re just starting out. You&#8217;ll learn how Chris came up with the idea to begin to use the facility and how he grew so quickly and what some of the barriers are he&#8217;s facing today. It&#8217;s a very interesting story. Before we meet our future guest, we have a little something called the Fun Facts Fuel.</p>
<p>Jentzen: Hey, everyone. This is Jentzen. I have some fun fuel to spark this episode. Chris from Hopeful Harvest inspired me to check out some history on some of the first types of food manufacturing. Before I tell you what I found, I have a little fun fact about chickens.</p>
<p>Did you know wild chickens naturally produce roughly 15 eggs per year? However, farmers have bred chickens to lay 200 to 300 eggs per year. Wow, fascinating.</p>
<p>Now, back to my fun fuel. Today, I would like to share with you the top 10 most significant inventions in food and drink according to Megan Garber in the September 14, 2012, article in the Atlantic magazine. Okay. Here we go with the top 10. Number 10, the plow. Number 9, grinding and milling. Number 8, selective breeding. Number 7, the process of baking. Number 6, the threshing machine. Number 5, irrigation. Number 4, the oven. Number 3, the process of canning. Number 2, the process of pasteurization and sterilization. The number 1 food and drink invention was the refrigerator. All right. That&#8217;s all, folks. Hope you enjoy the show.</p>
<p>Romy: Thank you, Jentzen. I want to give a shout out now to all of our patrons that are supporting us on Patreon. We appreciate you. If you&#8217;d like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website for the link to great supplemental content and connections.</p>
<p>All right. Let&#8217;s listen in to my interview with Chris Nemeth of Hopeful Harvest.</p>
<p>Welcome, Chris. Would you begin by telling us about Hopeful Harvest?</p>
<p>Chris: Thank you very much. Hopeful Harvest is a for-profit social enterprise that is an outgrowth from Forgotten Harvest, our non-profit. Forgotten Harvest is 1 of the largest fresh food rescue operations in the United States. We have 35 trucks that go out every day, six days a week, rescue fresh, healthy food from over 800 retail outlets. Then, we turn around and deliver that food to over 283 agencies throughout the metropolitan Detroit area.</p>
<p>Where social enterprise got it start was that there was a sense of building on the mission that we had with Forgotten Harvest: How can we go beyond what we were currently doing and not only address the problem on a daily basis but begin putting some things in place to fix the problem long term. The idea with social enterprise was to focus on three areas. We were going to focus something with food, something with workforce development and something with product development. My goal was to go basically out and get into the community and find out where the opportunities were and what was needed in the metro Detroit area. I grew up in Detroit so for me; this is also a labor of love because there was an opportunity to get back in and make a difference.</p>
<p>As I talk to a lot of small food manufacturers, businesses, entrepreneurs, government officials, non-profits, for-profit businesses, what I came to understand was that one of the huge differences in Detroit was that when I was growing up, it was all auto industry. Our economy was built on the auto industry, and careers were built on the auto industry. It&#8217;s just what you did. Obviously, Detroit has gone through major changes. The reality now is the auto industry is never going to be what it was before. What Detroit has embraced is the entrepreneurial mindset and the idea of we&#8217;ve got to create new opportunities, new ventures. Food is one of the areas that&#8217;s taking off in metro Detroit.</p>
<p>Being that Forgotten Harvest was a fresh food oriented-type of business, I automatically was drawn to talking to people that were within the food industry. What I found was there wasn&#8217;t a lot of support out there for small food manufacturers. They were using church kitchens. They were using basically whatever they could find. A lot of these places were less than desirable. They had to work around the schedules of the facilities. What was available to them was limited. They had to haul their equipment back and forth. It just seemed to me that there was a tremendous opportunity and need there where we could make an impact. We had a warehouse. We had refrigerated storage. We had freezer storage. We had a very rudimentary processing area where volunteers come in and repack fresh food.</p>
<p>As I began to explore it, I got into some conversations with some great local entrepreneurs. One thing led to another. We got into discussions. I started talking to more businesses. Where we decided to go was focused initially on food processing and storage. Basically, what we were looking at when I say processing was very basic, take the fruits and vegetables that they use to make their products and wash it for them, clean it, package it, store it, refrigerate it, freeze it, whatever they needed so that they could then take it and make their product.</p>
<p>One of the small businesses they said you should talk to a friend of ours, Jess McClary of McClary Bros Vinegars. She&#8217;s in a situation where she&#8217;s growing her product, and she&#8217;s running out of space to do it and is looking for somebody to do processing for and maybe more. I got into a discussion with Jess. We decided we would start off with processing. Within a month, we realized that we could do more than just process for her. To make a long story short, over a period of 2 months, we went from just processing to manufacturing her product for.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s exciting about it was the phones started ringing. Word got out that we were looking at doing those kinds of things. I joined a lot of local organizations, talked to a lot of people. The interest started to develop to do more and more of this. The other thing that became very apparent to me was that there was a real need for a top-level commercial kitchen in the area. From a Forgotten Harvest and Hope standpoint, we went back; we talked about it, and we said, &#8220;Yes, we could build on the facility we have right now. Forgotten Harvest would make the initial investment in the facility, and then we would need a separate entity that would run it and then pay back Forgotten Harvest for the investment that they make.&#8221;</p>
<p>We had some discussions and decided that it was probably best to set up a separate operation or for-profit operation. I was also beginning to get some pushback from local processors who were concerned that we had found a niche that we were getting into that could potentially take business away from them. The idea was separate it from the non-profit, make it a legitimate for-profit, run it as a for-profit but always run it with the idea being that it was going to be a social enterprise. We threw around some names, and that&#8217;s where Hopeful Harvest came up. After doing some research, we decided that we would set it up as a C corp. The stock would be 100% owned initially by Forgotten Harvest, but we would run it as a separate company.</p>
<p>Along with being the senior director of social enterprise for Forgotten Harvest, I became the president of Hopeful Harvest. Then quite frankly, the sales background and marketing background I have kicked in. We started talking about different businesses. We started growing the business. Before you knew it, we had over 30 clients of all different types of products. While that sounds like a dream, it also can create some challenges because we found out that when you have many different products, there&#8217;s a lot of complexities that go along with that. When you&#8217;re dealing with start-up businesses or small businesses that are going from cottage to incubator stage and something beyond that, there we have a lot of ups and downs, too.</p>
<p>We were going to do business plans. We were going to do website development. We were going to offer them everything. After helping build a couple of business plans and develop a couple of websites, we realize we were getting spread way too thin, and we had to get focused, and we had to focus on core aspects of the business. The way we addressed that is with partners. The idea was we didn&#8217;t have the payroll to take out all this expertise, but there were a lot of people out there, a lot of small businesses out there that had this expertise that was looking for referrals and partnerships. When somebody comes to us, and he says, &#8220;Look, I have no idea how to build a business plan. I can set them up with this company, this person. They&#8217;ll work with them.&#8221; That is a value-added service that we offer, but it does not cost us anything, but it&#8217;s helping our client. We&#8217;re taking that approach and growing it that way.</p>
<p>Romy: That was a great history and catch-up. What are your products today? Then I know you&#8217;ve gotten some clarity. I know from talking to you and many other social entrepreneurs, sometimes clarity comes from space restrictions and things like that, things that you want to do a lot of products and services. What are the few products that you know for sure you&#8217;re doing today before we move onto some other things?</p>
<p>Chris: Sure. People didn&#8217;t know me [inaudible <span>[00:10:34]</span> because there&#8217;s 2 words they say I don&#8217;t know, one is no and one is can&#8217;t. What I learned early on was that I tried to bring in as much business as I could. If somebody came to us, I said, &#8220;Figure out a way to do.&#8221; What happened was our initial product line was very extensive. Everything from cakes to cannolis to drinking vinegars, to salad dressings and everything in between.</p>
<p>As I was getting my education, because I really don&#8217;t have a food background, what I learned was you have to really narrow your scope and find that sweet spot, those areas where you have like types of products that complement your skill sets and your equipment and that you feel comfortable you can meet the needs of your clients. We went and really began to trim down our commercial kitchen. We have all different types of businesses in there. They come in, they have a license, they use the kitchen. That&#8217;s the service we provide, but obviously, that doesn&#8217;t put a real strain on our personnel from a skill set standpoint.</p>
<p>What we did from a product standpoint is we&#8217;ve decided to focus on a couple of key areas. We focused our salad dressings. We focused our mustards, drinking vinegar, which is a unique product that I can talk about down the road. We do some hot sources right now. Those are pretty much the types of products that we&#8217;re co-packing or co-manufacturing at this time. We&#8217;ve learned to narrow that down. That helps us from an equipment standpoint; that helps us from a personnel standpoint. Again, it&#8217;s just that cold reality that hits you that you can&#8217;t be everything to everybody as much as you want to be, particularly as a social enterprise because you&#8217;ve always got that in the back of your mind, &#8220;How can I help this business, how can I help the community,&#8221; but you&#8217;ve also got to be realistic in what you can and can&#8217;t do. Those are the types of products we&#8217;re focused on right now.</p>
<p>Romy: Smart to laser in on a couple and do those real, real well and expand. Chris, you said some commercial businesses will come in and use the facility. Now, are they paying you per time? Or did they pay a monthly rent or membership? Will you just tell us a little bit more about that part of your revenue model?</p>
<p>Chris: Sure, I&#8217;m a big fan for my marketing pick, and I&#8217;m a big fan of bundling. I like to take like services or someone&#8217;s services and package them together. One of the things that I know is that if these individuals are running small businesses if they know every month what something is going to cost them, if it&#8217;s a fixed versus a variable cost, it helps them tremendously from a budgeting and planning standpoint. What we do with the commercial kitchen, we have everything in here from raw juices to popcorn. We have someone in here from France that makes lava cakes and everything in between. What we do is we determine how much kitchen time they think they&#8217;re going to need and what additional storage they may need. We have the ability here to offer refrigerated storage, freezer storage and secure dry storage.</p>
<p>For example, if a client says, &#8220;Look, we&#8217;re going to need the kitchen for 10 hours a week, and we&#8217;re going to need x amount of storage and we&#8217;re going to need this support,&#8221; typically it can either be broken down by an hourly rate, so we may say it&#8217;s going to be $20 an hour. Or what I like to do is say, &#8220;Okay, you&#8217;re going to be in here approximately 40 hours. You want storage. Typically, it would cost this amount if it was done ala carte. If we do the whole thing as a bundle, I can give it to you this rate on a monthly basis.&#8221; They know, and we&#8217;re trying to help these businesses.</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re scheduled for 40 hours, and it turns out they need 42 hours or 44 hours, we&#8217;re good with that because goodwill is a part of this, too. They know that they were going to pay x amount of dollars for that every month. We get that agreement upfront. They&#8217;re good with it. If their business grows and expands, then we can revisit whether we need to raise that rate or change the structure. Or if their business downsizes, we work with them on that.</p>
<p>Another thing that we do that&#8217;s unique is what we recognize was when we furnished our kitchen and our space, we tried to focus on equipment that we purchase that is universal to a number of different types of clients. What we found was because of the food background, a lot of these businesses have very specialized equipment. They have certain electrical requirements or water requirements or air requirements. We also work with them from that standpoint, too. That&#8217;s unique. There&#8217;s not a lot of people that do that. They can bring their specialized equipment in. Our people, when they know their schedule to come in, will make that equipment available to them in a designated room that has everything that they need, they can produce their product and then we&#8217;ll take that equipment when they&#8217;re done, put it back in storage for them, so they don&#8217;t have to haul it back and forth. They don&#8217;t have to worry about it from a safety and security standpoint. They love that service. That&#8217;s something we&#8217;ve learned and customized as we went along.</p>
<p>Romy: It seems like you&#8217;ve almost added on this almost concierge level of services that you&#8217;re paying attention to these customers. That&#8217;s really exciting. Now, that makes sense to me why you&#8217;ve picked and mastered the drinking vinegars and some of those elements because those are probably the equipment that you have right now, which is really smart. Is it too early to talk about the branding potential?</p>
<p>Chris: No, not at all.</p>
<p>Romy: Because I know you&#8217;re now going to add on another service line. Perhaps you could share some of that, what you&#8217;re able to share right now.</p>
<p>Chris: Sure. Yeah, absolutely. This will be part of Forgotten Harvest, but it has Hopeful Harvest tied into this as well. Basically, the idea is along the lines of Newman&#8217;s Own. Our concept is Forgotten Harvest is a very well-known name in the metro Detroit area, actually state of Michigan. We deal in fresh food, healthy food and obviously make that available in a lot of food deserts to folks who don&#8217;t have that opportunity necessarily to get at that food. What we determine was that, that why couldn&#8217;t we take that brand, that Forgotten Harvest brand, identify some partners, co-brand or brand those products, and then talk to local retailers who were very involved with at our boards, so on and so forth popular, about putting those products on their shelves.</p>
<p>What we do basically is we have 14 partners right now. They have certain products that they&#8217;re partnering with Forgotten Harvest. It could be a full branding. For example, a company called Mucky Duck is our salad dressing. We have four flavors of Forgotten Harvest salad dressing. They produce [sandwich <span>[00:17:19]</span> now, we&#8217;re going to produce, which I&#8217;ll talk about in a minute. Then we also have partners that are going to do everything from cookies to salad dressings to [gems <span>[00:17:29]</span> and jellies, so on and so forth. We&#8217;re building that right now. We have our partners. They have their special labels that are made that feature Forgotten Harvest item.</p>
<p>The way we work that agreement is that Forgotten Harvest gets 7.5% of net product sales. For that 7.5%, what the client gets is, obviously, the boost in recognition partnering with Forgotten Harvest. They certainly get the philanthropic opportunity to donate back, but also, we&#8217;ve agreed to help from a marketing standpoints. We have a whole marketing plan we put in place that we&#8217;re going to support and help these products as well. We&#8217;re starting off with 14. We&#8217;re going to have anywhere from 90 to 150 SKUs, depending on the number of products we have. We&#8217;re very excited about this.</p>
<p>I did want to add the other unique part of this is some of these products will actually be made by Hopeful Harvest. We&#8217;re making them with our social enterprise, and then any profits will go to...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/season-2-hopeful-harvest-with-chris-nemeth-serving-detroit-social-enterprise-food-manufacturing]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1499</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f9ed82b9-1ee6-4e7f-b552-121109e23f3f/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:47:42 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4de7d78f-bf7a-4294-94f2-5e5d273f4f6a/hopefulharvestfullmixdown.mp3" length="60285436" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Learn how Chris Nemeth has launched a food manufacturing social enterprise in partnership with Forgotten Harvest to help food entrepreneurs all over the Detroit and broader Michigan area.  His organization grew so fast that he encountered unusual barriers which are discussed with candor. Interview by Romy Kochan</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Mile High Workshop in Denver, Colorado#43</title><itunes:title>S2: Mile High Workshop in Denver, Colorado#43</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Social Enterprise manufacturing in Denver, Colorado</strong></p>
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<p>Incredible interview by Romy with Jeremy Katz and Andy Magel of the Mile High Workshop in Denver Colorado.  Listen in on how Jeremy and Andy are provided jobs to those with barriers to employment all while providing critical manufacturing services to the social entrepreneurial community.  The Mile High Workshop has already assisted several businesses with their production and continues to change lives. Be Inspired!</p>
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<p>Full transcription of the interview:</p>
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<td>Hey, thanks for tuning in, this is Romy and I&#8217;ll be your host for this episode on the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Today I&#8217;m interviewing Andy Magel and Jeremy Katz of the Mile High Workshop in Denver Colorado. Andy and Jeremy started Mile High Workshop to provide two things…manufacturing for social enterprises and create some employment for those with barriers to the employment. They do woodworking, glass etching and sewing all for the social entrepreneurs in their area. You will learn how they&#8217;re structured and what they&#8217;re working on now. But before we meet our featured guest, we have a little something we call the Fun Facts Fuel.</td>
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<td width="144">Jentzen:</td>
<td>Hey everyone, this is Jentzen and I have some Fun Fuel to spark this episode. The Mile High Workshop inspired me to look into the history of sewing manufacturing. I found a story of the emergence on sewing machines in Smithsonian magazine, July 14th, 2015 issue. The article is by Alex Palmer and he gives us an inside look at the battle of patents over the sewing machine.</td>
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<td>This battle became known as the Sewing Machine War of the mid 1800s. The Singer sewing machine, as we know today, was designed by many different inventors. It was actually Elias Howe who created the original sewing machine concept in 1846. Isaac Merritt Singer came along and made a few changes and the war began. Singer patented his own version in 1951, by then, a bunch of other inventors wanted to join the sewing machine patented war, all laying claim to part of the process. Eventually, a lawyer proposed a unprecedented idea. He proposed that everyone merge their ideas and patents and one license fee mile that they would all share. The very first patented pool was created, ending the sewing machine war of the mid-eighteen hundred.</td>
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<td>This is Jentzen and I will be talking to you next time.</td>
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<td>We appreciate you. If you would like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website for the link to great supplemental content and connections....]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Social Enterprise manufacturing in Denver, Colorado</strong></p>
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<p>Incredible interview by Romy with Jeremy Katz and Andy Magel of the Mile High Workshop in Denver Colorado.  Listen in on how Jeremy and Andy are provided jobs to those with barriers to employment all while providing critical manufacturing services to the social entrepreneurial community.  The Mile High Workshop has already assisted several businesses with their production and continues to change lives. Be Inspired!</p>
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<p>Full transcription of the interview:</p>
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<td>Hey, thanks for tuning in, this is Romy and I&#8217;ll be your host for this episode on the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Today I&#8217;m interviewing Andy Magel and Jeremy Katz of the Mile High Workshop in Denver Colorado. Andy and Jeremy started Mile High Workshop to provide two things…manufacturing for social enterprises and create some employment for those with barriers to the employment. They do woodworking, glass etching and sewing all for the social entrepreneurs in their area. You will learn how they&#8217;re structured and what they&#8217;re working on now. But before we meet our featured guest, we have a little something we call the Fun Facts Fuel.</td>
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<td>Hey everyone, this is Jentzen and I have some Fun Fuel to spark this episode. The Mile High Workshop inspired me to look into the history of sewing manufacturing. I found a story of the emergence on sewing machines in Smithsonian magazine, July 14th, 2015 issue. The article is by Alex Palmer and he gives us an inside look at the battle of patents over the sewing machine.</td>
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<td>This battle became known as the Sewing Machine War of the mid 1800s. The Singer sewing machine, as we know today, was designed by many different inventors. It was actually Elias Howe who created the original sewing machine concept in 1846. Isaac Merritt Singer came along and made a few changes and the war began. Singer patented his own version in 1951, by then, a bunch of other inventors wanted to join the sewing machine patented war, all laying claim to part of the process. Eventually, a lawyer proposed a unprecedented idea. He proposed that everyone merge their ideas and patents and one license fee mile that they would all share. The very first patented pool was created, ending the sewing machine war of the mid-eighteen hundred.</td>
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<td>This is Jentzen and I will be talking to you next time.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>We appreciate you. If you would like to support us on Patreon, please go to our website for the link to great supplemental content and connections. All right, lets listen to my interview with Andy and Jeremy of the Mile High Workshop.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>First guys, welcome to the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Will you tell us, either Andy or Jeremy, about the Mile High Workshop?</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Sure, I’ll go ahead and kick it off. Thanks Romy. This is Jeremy and the Mile High Workshop here in Denver Colorado. As it exists today, is an employment and job training program for people who are recovering from addiction, homelessness or incarceration and we create jobs and give them jobs doing manufacturing and production of handmade goods. So, really anything that you can make with your hands, we have capacity for woodworking, we do sewing, we do laser etching, cutting. We do general assembly of jewelry and other things like that and anything that we can create a job doing, we are happy to do that.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Well, and Jeremy, before we go further, are you doing it as a manufacturer or are you selling some of those products yourself?</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Yeah, we are primarily a contract manufacturers, right now small businesses in Denver who have a product and a brand and marketing and all that will outsource their production to us. So, we do small batch manufacturing and help other small businesses in Denver grow and get off the ground.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>And how small will you go Jeremy? A couple items?</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Officially, we had a hundred dollar minimum order size, but we do manufacturing all across the board, anything from a few items to large projects as well.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Wow, that&#8217;s fabulous because that&#8217;s probably so hard to find and that&#8217;s one of the huge barriers for most entrepreneurs to get in. They can’t find somebody to help them even prototype some items to get launched. Can you take us back through the history of how this idea even came to you, to get right in the middle of the manufacturing space?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Yeah, this is Andy. I&#8217;ll kind of fill the back story. We started up as a operation about a year and a half ago and when we started, we really just had the mission of creating jobs and training opportunities for people. We didn&#8217;t necessarily know what that would look like. So we started by just launching several businesses that we owned and operated and were trying to use those to create an impact on our community but we quickly realized that the output we were getting in terms of jobs was very minimal compared to what we were putting into them in terms of time and money. I just felt like, we weren&#8217;t doing things as well as we possibly could and so we kind of reevaluated what was working and wasn&#8217;t working.</td>
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<td>Well what was working was a relationship that we had started in town with a couple of photographers running a business called Artisan Obscura and they make camera accessories and they had been making them in their garage and were hoping to scale the business and grow it and needed to get out of the actual production side of things.</td>
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<td>So they partnered with us, brought all their stuff into our space, and taught us how to make their products and we started doing that, we were able to hire somebody to do that, and we kind of became their back-end to their business, which freed them up to be more creative, to develop new products, to sell more, to market more, and they really saw their business grow under that relationship.</td>
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<td>We also realized that we got to hire somebody and work with them and train them without having to sell anything or market anything and it just really seemed to be a win-win relationship. So we just kind of sought out to replicate that, and so we had a laser etching machine as a part of that relationship and we just started by trying to bring in business for that etching machine and as that grew we added on a wood shop and a sewing shop and didn&#8217;t necessarily intend to become what we are today but just kind of followed the opportunities.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>It seems like some things just sort of organically popped up at the need and the resources that you had. It seems like you were doing a little bit of organic matching, I would call it there.</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Yeah, no that&#8217;s absolutely true. I think our first fifteen to twenty customers all happened through a referral and so naturally we found ourselves with a small customer base and demand and so we decided it would be worth pursuing. I think we really operate in this space of mutual need where a small business, if they want to grow, a common bottleneck is capacity in the ability to produce goods. If you&#8217;re one or two people, you&#8217;re limited in growth just in terms of how much you can physically make and so we can step into that equation and allow a small business to grow and make more than they can produce themselves, and so that&#8217;s a win for the small business, but also allows us to hire people through that activity and we don&#8217;t have to sell or market that product or be experts in that industry, but we still get access to the employment opportunities they&#8217;re generating.</td>
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<td>Now in the state of Colorado, are there sort of funding sources or grants from your state to encourage employment?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>I think the state of Colorado is an excellent climate to be operating a social enterprise and I think there&#8217;s a lot of enthusiasm. There&#8217;s a lot of people who are onboard with the concept who are trying new things, who are supporting it in various ways. Financially, in terms of what the state is offering, we, being relatively new are kind of new to that landscape and are just figuring that out for ourselves. So I think, the department of corrections out here is really looking into some unique things and exploring some new ideas, which I&#8217;m really excited about, in terms of training and transitional opportunities. Looking at ways to reduce recidivism, and so I think there&#8217;s some exciting stuff on the horizon and there&#8217;s some access to funding that could become available through those avenues, but right now were a combination of kind of earned revenue and then individual donors that support our cause.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Do you guys have any goals identified about what you&#8217;re trying to do in terms of how much comes in through earned revenue and donations, any targets on your mind?</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Yeah I would say our goal is definitely a hundred percent sustainable revenue stream and we believe we can hit that in the next two to three years. We have already had eight employees that are either currently with us or have gone through and have already graduated from the program. We have about twenty to twenty five clients that our revenue is derived from right now, so things are looking strong.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Wow, that&#8217;s really exciting, two or three years? That&#8217;s powerful. Are you finding that the fact that you&#8217;re creating this employment is helping to make you perhaps a priority in a potential clients mind?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Yeah absolutely.</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Yeah definitely. I mean, one of the great benefits I think that we can offer to our clients, other than the fact that they are able to manufacture in the United States, which is adventitious and looks good for their customer base, is that they have this whole other branding aspect where they can brand their products as being made at the Mile High Workshop, and we&#8217;re working toward branding that name so that its known throughout Colorado that the Mile High Workshop exists to meet the needs of people facing various unemployment, and products coming out of Mile High Workshop are helping to create those jobs. So it’s a win for us and it’s a win for our clients and it’s a win for their customers ultimately.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Yeah and honing in on that, I think often when we are social enterprises, that are, what I call that doing the social staffing where we are typical going after those folks, that as you said have barriers to employment. Are you working with any partner agencies on life skills training or, for example, a lot of times when we’re working with social enterprises that hire folks from homelessness. There&#8217;s a certain set of issues that people group experiences like they might have to get their drivers licenses restored, they might need legal aid, they might need financial education. How are you guys handling the issues that come with some of those barrier to employment?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>I think there are other variables that come, it’s not a traditional business model, in a sense that were trying to find the best qualified people, we actually want people who aren&#8217;t qualified. We want to help them become qualified. So we take time out of our schedule every week to do group meetings and training&#8217;s and check-ins. We meet with everyone individually on the clock just as a part of the job, to try and set goals and provide supports. Everyone is an individual and has different needs and so we really try to custom tailor the work that we do to the people that we work with.</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>And as like an add on to that, we have as part of our staff, we have a program director, who&#8217;s working on building out, sort of what you could call the life skills curriculum, so, our employees meet with her one-on-one, once a week while they&#8217;re on the clock and additionally we have group training sessions where each week there&#8217;s a different topic, maybe we cover budgeting, the next time we cover conflict book resolution. How to go out and seek other employment opportunities. Things like that, we really encourage our employees to be looking towards their next step, you know, what is the next opportunity after you&#8217;re done working here at the Mile High Workshop, to help with that transition.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Powerful. Empowering as they say. Instead of enabling, right?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>That&#8217;s it.</td>
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<td>How do you guys decide who you&#8217;re going to hire. I think we both know you&#8217;ve been doing it long enough that there is the group that we want to hire, we see some challenges there, but then there&#8217;s also some vetting that we have to do within that category. How have you started to put together a vetting process of who you decide within a certain group?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>I think when you&#8217;re looking at bringing somebody on board, to me at least, it’s always this combination of, of who&#8217;s ready, who can help us? There definitely is, I guess I would say, maybe a minimum in terms of who are able to help for sure. So who can us, who&#8217;s ready and then who needs us? It’s definitely not our mission to just hire someone just for the, because they need the opportunity and that were fulfilling our mission that way, so.</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>We look to be intentional about who we are hiring because we know especially, you&#8217;re coming out of incarceration, not everybody is ready for a full time job right out, so, we actually partnered to work with transitional housing programs and halfway houses to help pinpoint and refer to us the people that they believe are ready and willing to work hard, and show up to work everyday because we are a traditional business and our employees need to be here everyday, on time and work hard and they do, for sure.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>I think for the listeners out there too, it’s important to know that to look around to other agencies like that, because you do need, sort of that expertise interface don&#8217;t you find?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Yeah, I think our success rate is dramatically higher when you can partner with another organization and so when an individual is kind of book-ended by good support at work, and that they can go home to a good environment or at least have other positive influences and healthy people in their lives, the likelihood of their success is dramatically higher.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Yeah what a good point, I like that term, book-ended with support, what a great word there. So while we are still on sort of this social mission, do you guys have specific goals in your heads or formally written down that you, man wouldn&#8217;t it be great if this is how much employment we created over time. Is that part of your dialogue at all?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Oh yeah absolutely, yeah, me and Jeremy are sitting in our office with a blow chart on the wall, talking about exactly that.</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Yeah, it’s our roadmap goals. We&#8217;ve talked informally about a hundred jobs within three years.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Well that&#8217;s a systemic change right there.</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>Yeah, yeah absolutely.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Out of one business. Could you describe as best you could, because some of the folks don&#8217;t have access to maybe get on your website and see some samples of some of the types of products you make for your clients.</td>
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<td width="144">Jeremy:</td>
<td>Yeah, I&#8217;ll start in the sewing department. One of our biggest clients is a brand called mission wear, they have some really cool products actually, they take recycled vinyl banners and up-cycle them into handbags, and apparel and things like that so if you ever go to a big festival or event or a one time kind of a show that&#8217;s coming to town. Well they always do marketing advertising on these vinyl banners but what are they gonna do with those banners after the festival or event or the show ends. Well this company here in Denver, they collect them all, and they get them donated, and then they bring them to us, all the raw material, along with their handbag design, and then we do all the production for them. They&#8217;re pretty successful so, it’s a really cool product that not only is it creating a job but it’s also being environmentally friendly and sustainable with up-cycling.</td>
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<td width="144">Romy:</td>
<td>Wow. What else?</td>
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<td width="144">Andy:</td>
<td>One of our oldest customers is Artisan Obscura, where like I mentioned earlier, they make camera accessories. so, shutter buttons and hot shoot covers and all kinds of just amazing woods and different designs and so we&#8217;re able to do those on our laser etching machine and a cool part of that relationship is we not only make their product but we also fulfill their orders. So we ship everything and distribute stuff all around the world for them, so they&#8217;ve been a great...]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/mile-high-workshop-in-denver-colorado]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=1480</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1beb6b55-ff9a-4969-96ba-79a5cb35acd5/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 17:36:14 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/75c4f753-be5d-4784-a351-92ffb75991ad/mile-highmixdown-1.mp3" length="39924491" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy interviews Andy Magel and Jeremy Katz of the Mile High Workshop manufacturer for social enterprise operations.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>S2: Veronika Scott of The Empowerment Plan  Detroit #42</title><itunes:title>S2: Veronika Scott of The Empowerment Plan  Detroit #42</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/veronika-scott-180-1.jpg"></a>   Veronika Scott</h3>
<p>Veronika Scott of The Empowerment Plan shares her missional journey of discovering her passion for creating employment for the homeless. She courageously dives into human dignity issues and leads the way for many social entrepreneurs. Get inspired!</p>
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<p>Romy:                 Hey there. This is Romy, and I'll be your host for this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Welcome, today you will hear from the amazing Veronika Scott, who is the founder, CEO, and overall visionary of the Empowerment plan of Detroit. The Empowerment plan is an organization that employs single parents primarily, out of the homeless shelters, to sew and produce the coats that turn into sleeping bags for the homeless. She both has a product that helps the homeless, and hires the homeless. I would truly say, she does far more than just hire. She really pours into their lives. They become family there at the Empowerment plan. Now, before we get too far, let's kick off this episode with a cool, fun fact about coats from Bonfire's team member, Jentzen Mel.</p>
<p>Jentzen:              Hey, this is Jentzen, and I have some fun fuel for your entertainment. As I was thinking about this episode, I began to research the history of coats, and found some interesting information on coat manufacturer, Eddy Bauer. Eddy Bauer came up with the idea for his lightweight down insulated jacket after almost freezing to death, steelhead fishing on the Olympic Peninsula. I found this information on Mentalfloss.com, written by Aaron McCarthy. Did you know, at age 21, Eddy Bauer was stringing tennis rackets as an entrepreneur in East Seattle, out of a small shop? His business was growing, and eventually, he gained his own storefront. Here's a short excerpt I found in the article.</p>
<p>"The shop might have stayed a small, but successful business if not for a fishing trip Bauer took with his friend Red Carlson, a trapper from Alaska, in January 1935. The pair headed to a canyon in the Olympic Peninsula where they fished for steelhead. That cold, snowy January day, their haul was 100 pounds, and they stripped off their heavy, wool Makina jackets, climbing off the canyon in just their wool shirts and long underwear. The car was a mile away, and the 200-30 foot climb out of the river canyon was steep. As they hiked, Bauer, wet from his bag of fish and sweating profusely, began to fall behind his friend. When he reached to the top of the canyon, he stopped and leaned against a tree to rest. "He was literally falling asleep on his feet, nodding off," Berg says.</p>
<p>All that moisture froze in the cold in the snow, and he was getting Hypothermic. He was in a bad way. He realized what he needed was really a breathable, warm jacket, that he wouldn't have to take off when he was working so strenuously in the cold.</p>
<p>End of article. We all know Eddy Bauer went on to be one of the most successful outdoor clothing brands, and well-known for his coats. This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for today. Talk to you next time.</p>
<p>Romy:                 Cool story. You never know what inspires people. Thinking about inspiration, let's turn our attention back to Veronika. I met her some years ago when she was considering some expansion in her organization and some investment. She's truly a visionary. I want to set this up a little bit. You can go to her website and get the back-story. There're lots of videos there that you can look up and go through, and you might want to because this interview is really picking up and...]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/veronika-scott-180-1.jpg"></a>   Veronika Scott</h3>
<p>Veronika Scott of The Empowerment Plan shares her missional journey of discovering her passion for creating employment for the homeless. She courageously dives into human dignity issues and leads the way for many social entrepreneurs. Get inspired!</p>
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<p>Romy:                 Hey there. This is Romy, and I'll be your host for this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Welcome, today you will hear from the amazing Veronika Scott, who is the founder, CEO, and overall visionary of the Empowerment plan of Detroit. The Empowerment plan is an organization that employs single parents primarily, out of the homeless shelters, to sew and produce the coats that turn into sleeping bags for the homeless. She both has a product that helps the homeless, and hires the homeless. I would truly say, she does far more than just hire. She really pours into their lives. They become family there at the Empowerment plan. Now, before we get too far, let's kick off this episode with a cool, fun fact about coats from Bonfire's team member, Jentzen Mel.</p>
<p>Jentzen:              Hey, this is Jentzen, and I have some fun fuel for your entertainment. As I was thinking about this episode, I began to research the history of coats, and found some interesting information on coat manufacturer, Eddy Bauer. Eddy Bauer came up with the idea for his lightweight down insulated jacket after almost freezing to death, steelhead fishing on the Olympic Peninsula. I found this information on Mentalfloss.com, written by Aaron McCarthy. Did you know, at age 21, Eddy Bauer was stringing tennis rackets as an entrepreneur in East Seattle, out of a small shop? His business was growing, and eventually, he gained his own storefront. Here's a short excerpt I found in the article.</p>
<p>"The shop might have stayed a small, but successful business if not for a fishing trip Bauer took with his friend Red Carlson, a trapper from Alaska, in January 1935. The pair headed to a canyon in the Olympic Peninsula where they fished for steelhead. That cold, snowy January day, their haul was 100 pounds, and they stripped off their heavy, wool Makina jackets, climbing off the canyon in just their wool shirts and long underwear. The car was a mile away, and the 200-30 foot climb out of the river canyon was steep. As they hiked, Bauer, wet from his bag of fish and sweating profusely, began to fall behind his friend. When he reached to the top of the canyon, he stopped and leaned against a tree to rest. "He was literally falling asleep on his feet, nodding off," Berg says.</p>
<p>All that moisture froze in the cold in the snow, and he was getting Hypothermic. He was in a bad way. He realized what he needed was really a breathable, warm jacket, that he wouldn't have to take off when he was working so strenuously in the cold.</p>
<p>End of article. We all know Eddy Bauer went on to be one of the most successful outdoor clothing brands, and well-known for his coats. This is Jentzen, and this was your fun fuel for today. Talk to you next time.</p>
<p>Romy:                 Cool story. You never know what inspires people. Thinking about inspiration, let's turn our attention back to Veronika. I met her some years ago when she was considering some expansion in her organization and some investment. She's truly a visionary. I want to set this up a little bit. You can go to her website and get the back-story. There're lots of videos there that you can look up and go through, and you might want to because this interview is really picking up and discussing important issues she's facing today. Both in the form of opportunity and critical human issues that she's thinking through very strategically, so here we go, my interview with Veronika Scott.</p>
<p>Veronika:           Hi Romy, I'm really excited to be here. It's always great talking to you about this, and you can find out more about the whole history of Empowerment plan on our site, but it really all started off as a class project in college, while I was studying product design at the college for creative studies, here in Detroit. What started off as designing a product to fill needs in the city of Detroit, really turned into this whole system, and organization built around the coats themselves, and how the coats aren't actually the priority. They're just a way for us to employ the people we want to employ. The coat was what I designed in college. It took me 80 hours to build the first prototype.</p>
<p>Weeks of my life learning how to sew, while simultaneously making this coat, because what I noticed when I started the class, and all of us were kind of scrambling around as students, we had no idea how to address a need in the city of Detroit, that was actually something that we could tackle in a semester. What came up constantly was that, here, I see this person on the streets every day, and I want to do something, but I can't. I spent a lot of time in shelters, and I wouldn't say I was volunteering, I just spent time there. The one thing, the one moment that inspired the coat and the entire Empowerment plan, subsequently, was a playground that was turned into a home for somebody. Two people were living inside of a play structure that was covered in tarps and clothes, and this playground, where these two people were living, were 20 feet away from the shelter. That was just the most shocking thing in the world.</p>
<p>Why would you build something for yourself, when somebody is literally trying to give it to you for free? I remember just snapping a couple of pictures on my phone, and walking around with some of the people that were in that shelter, and coming back a week later, only to find that the playground had been burnt to the ground in a turf war, and had been completely leveled. The two people that were living inside of it survived that incident, only to pass away a couple of years later, just from being out in the elements for so long. Essentially, that moment inspired Empowerment Plan and the coats, but everything else as well. It's like, why would you do that, why would you even risk your life to make something for yourself? Initially, as a product designer, my way of dealing with it, and figuring out how to address, because it's not the physical need, but it's the emotional need.</p>
<p>It's this desire of wanting to take care of yourself. That this person had the pride and the drive to be independent, because when the rest of the world is trying to force them to take handouts and rely on the whims of others for everything that they need in their day to day life, these two individuals tried to take control in the best way possible, and show that they could provide for themselves, even in this small way. The coat was trying to address that emotional need of wanting to be independent, and not feeling like you're worthless because most of the handouts are used by other people, before that person gets it. It makes you feel less than everybody else, to be wearing somebody else's trash. I know that just from growing up. My parents, who are unemployed to this day, still struggle with addiction, and it's something that we still struggle with.</p>
<p>Most people assumed that my siblings and I, we didn't have any value, because they didn't think my parents had any value. Even though my parents are very intelligent, driven people, that are in that circumstance for many different reasons, they just kind of looked at them, and then subsequently looked over us. I know what it's like to have to deal with other people's cast away objects, and have people look down at you and think that you're worthless, and all you're trying to do is prove that you're not. That's a really long, hard struggle, so when I started with Empowerment plan and spent time in that shelter, I was the only one of my friends and classmates that actually spent time there, that didn't end up running away because it is a rough shelter that got uncomfortable. This is something that I know, if it weren't for family, we would have been in shelters.</p>
<p>We would have had that same experience, so if it can happen to my parents, it can happen to anybody. Homelessness, one, is not a defining characteristic. It doesn't define who someone is; it just tells you that they just don't have a place right now. They don't have a physical place to live, but people all the time, think it defines who that individually is as a person. When starting Empowerment plan, and spending time in that shelter, I knew, because my parents had gotten very close, but them not having a home, or them suffering from addiction, does not define who they are. If it could happen to my parents, it could happen to anybody, and that we're all a lot closer to homelessness than we'd like to think we are.</p>
<p>That was the reason I fell in love working in the shelters and spending the time and designing the coat that was initially meant not to feel like someone else's trash, and offer a little bit of warmth, with also giving a little bit of dignity. That's why it grew into something that was just beyond making a coat but hiring a population that would need it in the first place. In a way, it was me trying to deal with and address, what I had gone through growing up, and offer that same opportunity to my own family.</p>
<p>Romy:                 That's such a moving story. I think we can all find ourselves somewhere in that history, relating to that. For the folks listening that aren't familiar with your coat, will you tell them the functionality of this coat?</p>
<p>Veronika:           The coat now is beautiful. When I first started, they were absolutely terrible, and I really suck at sewing, even to this day, but it is meant just to be, simply a jacket. If you look at it on the streets, you can't even tell it's anything other than just like, a regular winter coat that people walk around with. What makes it different, really two things. There is what looks like a giant, giant pocket that unfolds from the back, that then you can velcro clothes. That you can actually slide your feet into, all the way up to your knees, and velcro the front panels of the jacket to it, and it becomes a sleeping bag. Then there are two clips on the sleeves themselves of the jacket, so that when you're done with the jacket in the winter, and you're done with the sleeping bag part, you can always roll it up and use it as an over the shoulder bag.</p>
<p>That's really important, most people deal with theft on the streets, and things like that, that they can wear it physically at all times, even in the summer, and not worry about it getting stolen. The coat itself is actually made with a lot of interesting things too. It's been really exciting to see the materials develop over time. We use recycled discontinued colors from Carhart on the outside shell; we use recycled automotive scrap from General Motors, from their door paneling. I think it's Buick, specifically. We use recycled Buick door panels, that they use as insulation in their cars, that are recycled and reprocessed, and given to us to use as insulation in the coats. Then we use quilted lining, just for extra comfort and warmth on the outside of those layers. I think it's just meant to be a very, very, very durable jacket because it's used in such extreme situations.</p>
<p>We've made about 10,000 coats over the last 3 1/2 years. People always ask, do you just distribute in Detroit? We're like, we never just distribute in Detroit. Even the first 20 that I made, half went to Detroit, and half went to Ohio and a couple of other places, but we have actually been able to have those 10,000 coats reach out in 30 states across the US, as well as 6 Canadian provinces, and now New Zealand, Australia, and France, as far as our outreach goes. That's through, just our network of outreach groups. We don't do distribution ourselves. We just partner with the organizations that do it and have the trust and respect on the streets.</p>
<p>That way, we've been able to have huge impact and scale at such a small organization, because we want to partner, and because we use it that way, and because we trust that the outreach groups, after we work with them, and Vet them, that they are going to give them to the people thaT really need it. They're going to know better than us, and so that's why we've been able to get our coats across the globe.</p>
<p>Romy:                 I'm glad we've transitioned a little bit deeper into the coat, and I want to stay on the coat itself for just a minute before we go back, and talk more about some of the initiatives with the social mission, but the coat itself has such a high, high quality, because of your demand for quality. You got the coat that's going to become part of the enterprise here, and because of the high quality of the coat and the awesome functionality of the coat, people want to buy it. It started out being a donation, and all of the sudden you're starting to get all these demands over the last couple of years from what, like outdoor enthusiasts and everything, and Camel. Can you tell us about this, because this is sort of what started the conversation about potentially selling these, right?</p>
<p>Veronika:           Yeah, so what's funny is when I first started, I got a lot of interesting responses to the coats and hiring a couple people from the shelter. It started off with getting hate mail actually because people were like, are you just helping people stay homeless, or those people are not going to work. That's literally quoted from e-mails. Like, those people, those homeless people are never going to come to work everyday. They're never going to make a sandwich, let alone a coat. We had a lot to prove when I started because nobody was doing what we're doing now. Nobody was going to shelters and hiring people. Nobody said that that population and the people that were there had any worth or value, so we were really trying to do a couple of things when I first started was, prove out, hey, we got this coat idea, can we even make it?</p>
<p>Can we even produce this [inaudible 00:13:49], because I didn't know how to sew, and I had to find somebody on Facebook that would help teach us, so it wasn't probably the right business choice, but it was never a thought in my mind to make it somewhere else. Hiring the first couple people from the shelter, we had kind of a chip on our shoulder, that we wanted to prove that no, you can hire someone from the shelter. That there are valuable, driven, powerful individuals there, and that they're really the reason the coat has worked out, and gotten to this point. We were just trying to prove those two things, can we hire people from the shelter, and can we make this coat.</p>
<p>As we were proving those things, and as we prove them now, we were surprised by the response after that initial first phase, like I said, of not the best and the most happy responses from everybody, when people just saw the coat and didn't understand the system. Then, people started requesting the coat just for the function of it. They wanted to buy one. We would get thousands of orders for the coats for somebody that wanted to purchase one. We had been telling them, because we were making so few, and that the demand in the US and globally, for individuals that are sleeping on the streets, or are in a disaster relief situation, the demand is so high, that every coat that we made needed to go to someone in dyer need of it. That needed this because the situation was really extreme. I cannot tell you how many people we made very angry by saying, no, you can't buy it yet.</p>
<p>We're not there, and right now all the coats that we make, need to go out on the streets. We would get e-mails from hunters, campers, fishermen, ice fishermen, a lot of doomsday preppers, but there are people that just wanted to buy the coat, because they liked the coat, and they had no idea about the social side, whatsoever. They're like, I want to buy this coat that turns into a sleeping bag, that's light, and meant to be very, very, very durable, and also, withstand very cold temperatures. They just thought it looked cool, and so, those orders have never stopped coming in. I thought it would just be with waves of press that we had gotten, and then it would die down once people understood more of what we were doing, and frankly, the more effective we've been in hiring and employment, and the more that we've done in the employment space, the more the demand for the product itself, has increased.</p>
<p>Not only do those hunting, camping, fishing people want to buy a coat for the functionality, there are those now that want to support the Empowerment Plan, and want to see us grow, and they want to do that through also wearing one of those coats. I'm secretly really excited and thrilled about the idea that there one day could be two people walking down the street and cross paths, and one person could be wearing the coat because they need it, and they have to wear it, because they have nothing else, and one person could have worn the coat because they bought it, and they liked the product, and they thought it was cool, and that these two individuals may walk past each other on the street, and you won't be able to tell who needed it and who wanted it. I think that is one of the most exciting things for me, just thinking about from a dignity standpoint, and a respect standpoint, and pride.</p>
<p>I think that's something that I'm really excited about really trying to see if we can achieve.</p>
<p>Romy:                 Veronika, what was your focus on making a quality product?</p>
<p>Veronika:           We focus a lot on the quality because this can't just be a good product for people on the streets that's free. It can't just be looked at as, "Oh, that's a good product for, oh homeless people made it, oh this is good enough." That's not how I feel like a product designer. The product needs to stand on it's own. The product needs to be good, no matter what. That person that didn't pay anything for it, and couldn't afford it, needs to have just as good of quality as somebody that can afford something like that. Quality has been a big thing. We've actually, over the last nine months, have had a true focus on lean manufacturing. We've had a lean specialist come in that used to work with Toyota and Ford, and the Government, doing tanks, he came in to help us set up our system, because we're not a typical production facility.</p>
<p>Our whole focus is learning, and just having this work place that makes you feel warm and comfortable, and supported, because everything else in the world may be chaos around you, but I want to feel like when you come into work, that at least in this space, it's not. It's not chaotic; we're there to help. For me, that was like, how do we do that, while fostering the creativity of our work force? How do we hear ideas from the team on the floor that's making the coats everyday, and hearing that, and listening to them, and improving the coat that way. It's about bringing that out through manufacturing. It sounds weird, but being able to share ideas, and innovate together as a team, is really important. That innovation isn't just me in a corner, trying to design new coats because I am not that good. I am not that good at all of this.</p>
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<h2>For The Love of Social Enterprises!</h2>
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<h3>Bonfires Got a Boost from Robert Egger</h3>
<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise concludes its series of stories inspired by Romy’s recent trip to Los Angeles, and her visit with attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata, of the <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">Sustainable Law Group</a>.</p>
<p>This, the final of three episodes, is about the<a href="http://www.lakitchen.org/" target="_blank"> LA Kitchen</a>, which is founded and led by Social Enterprise cheerleader, and community kitchen pioneer, <a href="http://www.robertegger.org/" target="_blank">Robert Egger</a>r. Egger ran t<a href="http://www.dccentralkitchen.org/" target="_blank">he DC Central Kitchen</a> for 24 years.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Neither Food Nor People Should Ever Go To Waste.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Egger discusses California being a central hub for food, with a rich resource of people whose talents are going to waste. Egger is passionate about the LA Kitchen being a place where people of all ages and food get second chances. He and Cecily Zapata, who is co-chair of the Board of Directors of the LA Kitchen, say that the doors are open to training the culinary arts and food preparation to those who society would rather not talk about that include, but are not limited to, drug addicts, former inmates, and the homeless. He and Romy compare notes about how societies around the world, including America, have a caste system, either openly expressing a prejudice or veiled feelings about those who are seldom acknowledged in public.</p>
<p>You’ll also hear more about Egger’s goal to have the LA Kitchen become an influence on public policy not only in Los Angeles but cities around the U.S.</p>
<p>Egger also expresses his passion for bringing back the culture of neighbors helping a neighbor that our country had, in large part, because farms were family owned and operated. Robert, Cecily and Romy discuss the social value of this and other topics related to food.</p>
<p>Cecily Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Robert Egger with a variety of legal issues. She also serves secretary of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of<a href="http://gingrasglobal.com/" target="_blank"> Gingras Global, LLC </a>which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance and has established the standard for judging the efficacy of social enterprise businesses.</p>
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<h2>For The Love of Social Enterprises!</h2>
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<h3>Bonfires Got a Boost from Robert Egger</h3>
<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise concludes its series of stories inspired by Romy’s recent trip to Los Angeles, and her visit with attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata, of the <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">Sustainable Law Group</a>.</p>
<p>This, the final of three episodes, is about the<a href="http://www.lakitchen.org/" target="_blank"> LA Kitchen</a>, which is founded and led by Social Enterprise cheerleader, and community kitchen pioneer, <a href="http://www.robertegger.org/" target="_blank">Robert Egger</a>r. Egger ran t<a href="http://www.dccentralkitchen.org/" target="_blank">he DC Central Kitchen</a> for 24 years.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Neither Food Nor People Should Ever Go To Waste.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Egger discusses California being a central hub for food, with a rich resource of people whose talents are going to waste. Egger is passionate about the LA Kitchen being a place where people of all ages and food get second chances. He and Cecily Zapata, who is co-chair of the Board of Directors of the LA Kitchen, say that the doors are open to training the culinary arts and food preparation to those who society would rather not talk about that include, but are not limited to, drug addicts, former inmates, and the homeless. He and Romy compare notes about how societies around the world, including America, have a caste system, either openly expressing a prejudice or veiled feelings about those who are seldom acknowledged in public.</p>
<p>You’ll also hear more about Egger’s goal to have the LA Kitchen become an influence on public policy not only in Los Angeles but cities around the U.S.</p>
<p>Egger also expresses his passion for bringing back the culture of neighbors helping a neighbor that our country had, in large part, because farms were family owned and operated. Robert, Cecily and Romy discuss the social value of this and other topics related to food.</p>
<p>Cecily Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Robert Egger with a variety of legal issues. She also serves secretary of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of<a href="http://gingrasglobal.com/" target="_blank"> Gingras Global, LLC </a>which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance and has established the standard for judging the efficacy of social enterprise businesses.</p>
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<h2>Bonfires LA-Downtown Women’s Center</h2>
<h3>Made by DWC &#8211; A Few Steps off Skid Row</h3>
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<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise continues its series of stories inspired by Romy’s recent visit to LA, and her visit with attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata, <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/">of the Sustainable Law Group</a>.</p>
<p>Joe Altepeter, Director of Vocational Education and Social Enterprise at the Downtown Women’s Center, or DWC, explains how the Downtown Women’s Center is helping Los Angeles&#8217; homeless women and explains why the organization set up workshops and numerous vocational, medical and mental health programs, and housing operations in Skid Row. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skid_Row,_Los_Angeles">Skid Row is one of the most famous neighborhoods in the world as it has one of the largest populations of impoverished persons, in the world, and many movies and TV shows have been made there or have depicted the life of people who live there.</a></p>
<p>In this episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, Joe provides extensive descriptions of the social enterprise operations of the DWC, called MADE by DWC.</p>
<blockquote><p>“MADE by DWC was created by the Downtown Women’s Center (DWC) to break the cycles of chronic unemployment and homelessness by empowering women to discover talents and develop skills through vocational opportunities, and generate economic and social capital to support programs at DWC.”</p>
<p>“MADE by DWC works to empower homeless and low-income women to overcome barriers to traditional and non-traditional employment, cultivate local and sustainable product design and creation, and build community in downtown Los Angeles.”</p></blockquote>
<p>You can find MADE by DWC products in higher end shops in Los Angeles, including Bloomingdales; three Hudson Newsstand locations within the terminals of LAX, or the Los Angeles International Airport; as well as the beautifully appointment shops on Skid Row. Both Romy and Cecily enthusiastically talk about the sunny, cheery layouts of the boutiques and coffee shops. The space of these MADE by DWC shops draws people who would have never thought about visiting Skid Row, pay a visit, and draws customers from nearby office buildings.</p>
<p>Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Urbane + Galant with a variety of legal issues. She is currently serving as secretary of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of Gingras Global, LLC- which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C, which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Joe Aletepeter currently serves as the chairperson of the Social Enterprise Alliance of Los Angeles.</p>
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<h2>Bonfires LA-Downtown Women’s Center</h2>
<h3>Made by DWC &#8211; A Few Steps off Skid Row</h3>
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<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise continues its series of stories inspired by Romy’s recent visit to LA, and her visit with attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata, <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/">of the Sustainable Law Group</a>.</p>
<p>Joe Altepeter, Director of Vocational Education and Social Enterprise at the Downtown Women’s Center, or DWC, explains how the Downtown Women’s Center is helping Los Angeles&#8217; homeless women and explains why the organization set up workshops and numerous vocational, medical and mental health programs, and housing operations in Skid Row. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skid_Row,_Los_Angeles">Skid Row is one of the most famous neighborhoods in the world as it has one of the largest populations of impoverished persons, in the world, and many movies and TV shows have been made there or have depicted the life of people who live there.</a></p>
<p>In this episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, Joe provides extensive descriptions of the social enterprise operations of the DWC, called MADE by DWC.</p>
<blockquote><p>“MADE by DWC was created by the Downtown Women’s Center (DWC) to break the cycles of chronic unemployment and homelessness by empowering women to discover talents and develop skills through vocational opportunities, and generate economic and social capital to support programs at DWC.”</p>
<p>“MADE by DWC works to empower homeless and low-income women to overcome barriers to traditional and non-traditional employment, cultivate local and sustainable product design and creation, and build community in downtown Los Angeles.”</p></blockquote>
<p>You can find MADE by DWC products in higher end shops in Los Angeles, including Bloomingdales; three Hudson Newsstand locations within the terminals of LAX, or the Los Angeles International Airport; as well as the beautifully appointment shops on Skid Row. Both Romy and Cecily enthusiastically talk about the sunny, cheery layouts of the boutiques and coffee shops. The space of these MADE by DWC shops draws people who would have never thought about visiting Skid Row, pay a visit, and draws customers from nearby office buildings.</p>
<p>Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Urbane + Galant with a variety of legal issues. She is currently serving as secretary of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of Gingras Global, LLC- which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C, which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance. Joe Aletepeter currently serves as the chairperson of the Social Enterprise Alliance of Los Angeles.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/dwc]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=349</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/647e2978-a2d9-4774-b776-c1ed856cc098/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:11:54 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/806728bc-d61a-460d-a91b-233d073bbe97/madeindwcbonfiresla.mp3" length="25791285" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Bonfires LA-Downtown Women’s Center Made by DWC – A Few Steps off Skid Row The Bonfires of Social Enterprise continues its series of stories inspired by Romy’s recent visit to LA, and her visit with attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata, of the Sustainable Law Group. Joe Altepeter, Director of Vocational Education and Social Enterprise at the Downtown…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Urbane + Gallant, Bonfires, L.A.#38</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Urbane + Gallant, Bonfires, L.A.#38</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/UG2.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Combating Human Trafficking Through Jobs at Urbane + Gallant</h2>
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<p>Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcaster Romy Gingras and Cecily Jackson-Zapata, Of <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">Counsel with Sustainable Law Group, P.C.</a> and Secretary of the Board of Directors of Social Enterprise Alliance, visited with the co-founder of men’s apparel company,<a href="http://urbanegallant.com/"> Andrew Park of Urbane + Gallant </a>. This men’s apparel company’s mission is to inspire men to combat global human trafficking. Urbane + Gallant is found on the web at www.urbaneandgallant.com</p>
<p>Park talks about why modern-day slavery became his cause, and what it has to do with defining masculinity. As you listen to his conversation with Gingras and Jackson-Zapata, you’ll hear him express how he wants to atone for other men’s complicity and profiteering in human trafficking.</p>
<p>Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Urbane + Galant with a variety of legal issues. She is currently serving as secretary of the<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank"> Social Enterprise Alliance</a>.  Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of Gingras Global, LLC- which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C, which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance.</p>
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<h2>Combating Human Trafficking Through Jobs at Urbane + Gallant</h2>
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<p>Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcaster Romy Gingras and Cecily Jackson-Zapata, Of <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">Counsel with Sustainable Law Group, P.C.</a> and Secretary of the Board of Directors of Social Enterprise Alliance, visited with the co-founder of men’s apparel company,<a href="http://urbanegallant.com/"> Andrew Park of Urbane + Gallant </a>. This men’s apparel company’s mission is to inspire men to combat global human trafficking. Urbane + Gallant is found on the web at www.urbaneandgallant.com</p>
<p>Park talks about why modern-day slavery became his cause, and what it has to do with defining masculinity. As you listen to his conversation with Gingras and Jackson-Zapata, you’ll hear him express how he wants to atone for other men’s complicity and profiteering in human trafficking.</p>
<p>Jackson-Zapata is of counsel with the law firm that helps Urbane + Galant with a variety of legal issues. She is currently serving as secretary of the<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank"> Social Enterprise Alliance</a>.  Romy Gingras is the CEO and founder of Gingras Global, LLC- which specializes in social enterprise assessment and development services, and Gingras Global Groups, L3C, which offers investment tools for impact investors. Gingras currently serves as the chairperson of the Detroit regional chapter of the Social Enterprise Alliance.</p>
<p>When you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website<br />
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/urbaneandgallant]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=317</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/cac737da-d3c4-4d02-97f3-6f454d697d39/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2015 01:03:45 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/55a15f13-02ea-49ce-a29c-45f654692559/ubaneandgallantlabonfires.mp3" length="20032241" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Combating Human Trafficking Through Jobs at Urbane + Gallant Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcaster Romy Gingras and Cecily Jackson-Zapata, Of Counsel with Sustainable Law Group, P.C. and Secretary of the Board of Directors of Social Enterprise Alliance, visited with the co-founder of men’s apparel company, Andrew Park of Urbane + Gallant . This men’s apparel company’s…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Downtown Youth Boxing Gym Detroit#37</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Downtown Youth Boxing Gym Detroit#37</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Detroit-Youth-Boxing.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Detroit-Youth-Boxing.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Detroit&#8217;s Place For Champion Kids</h2>
<h3>The Downtown Youth Boxing Gym</h3>
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<p>On this episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global we visit the <a href="http://downtownyouthboxing.org/" target="_blank">Downtown Youth Boxing Gym in Detroit, Michigan</a>. Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program executive director Jessica Hauser tells the story of the program. She tells why founder, Coach Kahli Sweeney started the boxing gym and chronicles its incredible growth in popularity and its move to much bigger facilities in downtown Detroit. The program has its fans and supporters including athletes like Tahir Whitehead of the Detroit Lions, and a couple of “stars” and Detroit natives, Madonna, and Eminem.</p>
<p>Romy and Jessica also explore why Kahli decided that boxing was the best way to attract kids, from the ages of 7 through 18, to his gym. They also discuss how the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program helps boys and girls achieve academically and learn life skills. Much to the delight of Romy Gingras, she also learns about the business and fundraising skills that the kids are encouraged to develop.</p>
<p>Previously the Youth Program could only accommodate 65 children when it was based in a former carwash. Now it’s in a much larger place that was once a book bindery building, and more of the 500 children on its waiting list can now be accepted into the program.</p>
<p>So, put up your dukes and string up the gloves and listen to this episode. Then, please share it. When you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website<br />
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<h2>Detroit&#8217;s Place For Champion Kids</h2>
<h3>The Downtown Youth Boxing Gym</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3787886/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>On this episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global we visit the <a href="http://downtownyouthboxing.org/" target="_blank">Downtown Youth Boxing Gym in Detroit, Michigan</a>. Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program executive director Jessica Hauser tells the story of the program. She tells why founder, Coach Kahli Sweeney started the boxing gym and chronicles its incredible growth in popularity and its move to much bigger facilities in downtown Detroit. The program has its fans and supporters including athletes like Tahir Whitehead of the Detroit Lions, and a couple of “stars” and Detroit natives, Madonna, and Eminem.</p>
<p>Romy and Jessica also explore why Kahli decided that boxing was the best way to attract kids, from the ages of 7 through 18, to his gym. They also discuss how the Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program helps boys and girls achieve academically and learn life skills. Much to the delight of Romy Gingras, she also learns about the business and fundraising skills that the kids are encouraged to develop.</p>
<p>Previously the Youth Program could only accommodate 65 children when it was based in a former carwash. Now it’s in a much larger place that was once a book bindery building, and more of the 500 children on its waiting list can now be accepted into the program.</p>
<p>So, put up your dukes and string up the gloves and listen to this episode. Then, please share it. When you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website<br />
Get Social with the Bonfires of Social Enterprise crew here:<br />
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/downtown-youth-boxing-gym]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=311</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/ff25627f-e854-44fb-979f-6fb9b53ac9db/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 01:52:32 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bd8eb2d7-add9-40ef-8dca-a8d574a9ad59/downtownyouthboxinggym.mp3" length="29291674" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>30:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit’s Place For Champion Kids The Downtown Youth Boxing Gym On this episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global we visit the Downtown Youth Boxing Gym in Detroit, Michigan. Downtown Boxing Gym Youth Program executive director Jessica Hauser tells the story of the program. She tells why founder, Coach…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Marion Janner United Kingdom#36</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Marion Janner United Kingdom#36</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_377" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MarionJanner.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-377" class="wp-caption-text">Marion who has mental illness and her support dog Buddy</p></div>
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<h2>Founder of Star Wards and Wardepedia</h2>
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<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise talked to the North London based, one-woman dynamo, behind the social enterprise called <a href="http://www.starwards.org.uk/about-3/" target="_blank">Star Wards</a>. Marion Janner and Bonfires-lady Romy Gingras, talk about how mental healthcare providers throughout the United Kingdom have come to embrace Star Wards as a benchmark for creating positive workplaces for health care practitioners, and patients.</p>
<p>Currently, Star Wards is funded by a group of charities that are devoted to its mission. They include British-based Comic Relief, The Allen Lane Foundation, London’s Department of Health, to name but a few.<br />
Marion Janner says she’s in debt to <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/christmas-charity-appeal-2014" target="_blank">The Guardian Newspaper</a>, which, last year, named it as one of nine mental health-related charities in its annual Christmas charity appeal.</p>
<p>Listen in as Romy and Marion talk about a Guardian article, <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/28/-sp-buddy-mental-health-treatment-marion-janner-star-wards-dog" target="_blank"> “The Buddy Effect, Improving mental health treatment, one pet at a time.”</a> Buddy isn’t just Janner’s dog, but Star Ward’s chief mascot, and honorary editor of Star Wards’ online wiki called Wardepedia , a free resource of positive ideas for change for inpatient mental health wards.</p>
<p>Marion Jenner credits<a href="http://www.happy.co.uk/about-happy/founders/" target="_blank"> Henry Stewart</a>, the founder of London-based business training company called <a href="http://www.happy.co.uk/about-happy/founders/" target="_blank">Happy</a> for validating her positive approach to empowering mental healthcare-inpatient service providers to make the changes they need to keep staff and patient morale up. A better work environment for mental health care practitioners gets better outcomes for patients.</p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_377" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/MarionJanner.jpg"></a><p id="caption-attachment-377" class="wp-caption-text">Marion who has mental illness and her support dog Buddy</p></div>
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<h2>Founder of Star Wards and Wardepedia</h2>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3777943/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise talked to the North London based, one-woman dynamo, behind the social enterprise called <a href="http://www.starwards.org.uk/about-3/" target="_blank">Star Wards</a>. Marion Janner and Bonfires-lady Romy Gingras, talk about how mental healthcare providers throughout the United Kingdom have come to embrace Star Wards as a benchmark for creating positive workplaces for health care practitioners, and patients.</p>
<p>Currently, Star Wards is funded by a group of charities that are devoted to its mission. They include British-based Comic Relief, The Allen Lane Foundation, London’s Department of Health, to name but a few.<br />
Marion Janner says she’s in debt to <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/christmas-charity-appeal-2014" target="_blank">The Guardian Newspaper</a>, which, last year, named it as one of nine mental health-related charities in its annual Christmas charity appeal.</p>
<p>Listen in as Romy and Marion talk about a Guardian article, <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/28/-sp-buddy-mental-health-treatment-marion-janner-star-wards-dog" target="_blank"> “The Buddy Effect, Improving mental health treatment, one pet at a time.”</a> Buddy isn’t just Janner’s dog, but Star Ward’s chief mascot, and honorary editor of Star Wards’ online wiki called Wardepedia , a free resource of positive ideas for change for inpatient mental health wards.</p>
<p>Marion Jenner credits<a href="http://www.happy.co.uk/about-happy/founders/" target="_blank"> Henry Stewart</a>, the founder of London-based business training company called <a href="http://www.happy.co.uk/about-happy/founders/" target="_blank">Happy</a> for validating her positive approach to empowering mental healthcare-inpatient service providers to make the changes they need to keep staff and patient morale up. A better work environment for mental health care practitioners gets better outcomes for patients.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/marion-janner]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=305</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/b6001b22-3e8c-42f9-ac6a-b1528bab2ae9/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:02:06 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c9215a62-736d-473a-80ad-3d4fc8869e1c/starwardsmarionjanner.mp3" length="27339757" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:15</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>  Founder of Star Wards and Wardepedia The Bonfires of Social Enterprise talked to the North London based, one-woman dynamo, behind the social enterprise called Star Wards. Marion Janner and Bonfires-lady Romy Gingras, talk about how mental healthcare providers throughout the United Kingdom have come to embrace Star Wards as a benchmark for creating positive…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Owen &amp; Abbey#35</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Owen &amp; Abbey#35</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/OwenAbby2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3773574/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Creating Tables and Accessories from Reclaimed Lumber from Detroit and other Michigan Cities</h2>
<p>Kimberly Watts shared her story that takes the phrase, &#8220;If you want something done right, do it yourself,&#8221; to a whole new level. She explains how she added table maker and social entrepreneur to her impressive resume that includes more than 25 years in marketing, operations and financial development. She&#8217;s the owner and chief sander, wood carver and hole driller of Owen &amp; Abbey. Watts tells Romy Gingras why she decided that she needed to take on the role of woodworker after an unhappy shopping experience for a table. Now she makes tables and an assortment of home furnishings from wood reclaimed from deconstructed homes in Detroit and Pontiac. Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, sat across the very first table Watts created from reclaimed wood. She explained where the name Owen and Abbey came from, and the personal experiences that brought her to a new career as a social entrepreneur.</p>
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<h2>Creating Tables and Accessories from Reclaimed Lumber from Detroit and other Michigan Cities</h2>
<p>Kimberly Watts shared her story that takes the phrase, &#8220;If you want something done right, do it yourself,&#8221; to a whole new level. She explains how she added table maker and social entrepreneur to her impressive resume that includes more than 25 years in marketing, operations and financial development. She&#8217;s the owner and chief sander, wood carver and hole driller of Owen &amp; Abbey. Watts tells Romy Gingras why she decided that she needed to take on the role of woodworker after an unhappy shopping experience for a table. Now she makes tables and an assortment of home furnishings from wood reclaimed from deconstructed homes in Detroit and Pontiac. Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, sat across the very first table Watts created from reclaimed wood. She explained where the name Owen and Abbey came from, and the personal experiences that brought her to a new career as a social entrepreneur.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/owenandabbey]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=301</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/0a8ca7cb-8ead-4338-86e9-05d0d6cc4eb2/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2015 00:39:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3bb05aa1-f305-4bb2-9750-d2c8945be824/owenabbey.mp3" length="20533292" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>21:09</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Creating Tables and Accessories from Reclaimed Lumber from Detroit and other Michigan Cities Kimberly Watts shared her story that takes the phrase, “If you want something done right, do it yourself,” to a whole new level. She explains how she added table maker and social entrepreneur to her impressive resume that includes more than 25…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Catherine Johnson#34</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Catherine Johnson#34</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Catherine_20pic.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Catherine Johnson, Assistant Director of the University of Michigan Center for Social Impact</h2>
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<p>Catherine Johnson came home to Michigan, from Portland, Oregon, to take an important job. She&#8217;s the assistant director of the University of Michigan&#8217;s Center for Social Impact, which is &#8220;housed&#8221; at the Ross School of Business. This episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, with Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, explores the campus-wide interest in businesses that have a social impact.</p>
<p>Johnson and Romy discuss how Michigan graduate students, who are getting degrees in a wide variety of disciplines, participate in the <a href="http://socialimpact.umich.edu/" target="_blank">Center for Social Impact</a> programs and competitions. The concept of social impact is attractive to those pursuing degrees in law, social work as well as an MBA at the world famous Ross School of Business in Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>Catherine Johnson and Romy Gingras also briefly touch on what it&#8217;s like to be working within the realm of Social Enterprise, even though many of their colleagues and associates didn&#8217;t understand their attraction. They feel like they are the pioneers of social impact consulting services, as both women have vast experiences in the field, both here in the United States, and abroad.</p>
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<h2>Catherine Johnson, Assistant Director of the University of Michigan Center for Social Impact</h2>
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<p>Catherine Johnson came home to Michigan, from Portland, Oregon, to take an important job. She&#8217;s the assistant director of the University of Michigan&#8217;s Center for Social Impact, which is &#8220;housed&#8221; at the Ross School of Business. This episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, with Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, explores the campus-wide interest in businesses that have a social impact.</p>
<p>Johnson and Romy discuss how Michigan graduate students, who are getting degrees in a wide variety of disciplines, participate in the <a href="http://socialimpact.umich.edu/" target="_blank">Center for Social Impact</a> programs and competitions. The concept of social impact is attractive to those pursuing degrees in law, social work as well as an MBA at the world famous Ross School of Business in Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>Catherine Johnson and Romy Gingras also briefly touch on what it&#8217;s like to be working within the realm of Social Enterprise, even though many of their colleagues and associates didn&#8217;t understand their attraction. They feel like they are the pioneers of social impact consulting services, as both women have vast experiences in the field, both here in the United States, and abroad.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/catherine-johnnson]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=294</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/9be4f67f-2c99-4604-870d-eea3587009b4/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:15:55 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bb5a0545-aea9-471b-80c6-26277b7f9649/catherinejohnsonuofmcenterforsocialimpact1.mp3" length="18856649" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:38</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Catherine Johnson, Assistant Director of the University of Michigan Center for Social Impact Catherine Johnson came home to Michigan, from Portland, Oregon, to take an important job. She’s the assistant director of the University of Michigan’s Center for Social Impact, which is “housed” at the Ross School of Business. This episode of the Bonfires of…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Buckets of Rain Detroit#33</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Buckets of Rain Detroit#33</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BucketsOfRain2.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BucketsOfRain2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3751284/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Feeding Detroit’s Food Deserts and Shelters</h2>
<p>Find out about Nine-year-Old non-profit organization Buckets of Rain. Its home base is Traverse City, Michigan. From August 20th through Sunday, August 23rd downtown Traverse City is flooded with voices, all singing one song for the benefit of Buckets of Rain, This Land is Your Land. Skellenger is leading the sing-a-long. He told Romy that after singing the same song, for about 1,000 times, he can hardly see straight.</p>
<p>Skellenger and Romy met at a Buckets for Rain urban garden in the Highland neighborhood of Detroit, earlier this summer. If you listen carefully, you may hear the sound of the intermittent windshield wipers going across the glass of Skellenger’s truck. Romy and Chris had to dash into it during a summer storm, as they were talking amongst the raised bed vegetable garden, planted in what was the parking lot of an abandoned building.</p>
<p>Skellenger started Buckets of Rain as part of his mission work to feed hungry people in Africa. The name of the organization comes from an irrigation device that he and a colleague device to help capture rain and irrigate arid land so that food can be grown. He tells the tale of why he set up shop in Detroit, in some of its most blighted communities, which do not have grocery stores or access to fresh fruits and vegetables. These areas are called Food Deserts. Skellenger and Gingras also talk about the impact the garden is having on nearby residents and a handful of homeless shelters run by the Detroit Rescue Ministries.<br />
You are listening to a unique episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, as the emphasis is on the Social and not the enterprise. That’s because Buckets of Rain, as of this time, has no definitive plans to transition from its status as a non-profit organization. Hence, fundraising efforts are ongoing.</p>
<p>If you’d like to know more about the Woodie Guthrie-inspired sing-along in Traverse City from August 20th through the 23rd, you’ll find more information on the Buckets of Rain Website. If you’re nearby you should see if, after singing “This Land is Your Land” for about 1,000 times Chris Skellenger can tell the difference between a beet and a parsnip.</p>
<p>Meantime, don’t forget to take the Bonfires of Social Enterprise poll on our home page. We need to gather that “natural data” about who is listening and downloading our stories. It won’t take but a minute of your time.</p>
<p>Here’s where you can find us, and Gingras Global.<br />
For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BucketsOfRain2.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BucketsOfRain2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3751284/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Feeding Detroit’s Food Deserts and Shelters</h2>
<p>Find out about Nine-year-Old non-profit organization Buckets of Rain. Its home base is Traverse City, Michigan. From August 20th through Sunday, August 23rd downtown Traverse City is flooded with voices, all singing one song for the benefit of Buckets of Rain, This Land is Your Land. Skellenger is leading the sing-a-long. He told Romy that after singing the same song, for about 1,000 times, he can hardly see straight.</p>
<p>Skellenger and Romy met at a Buckets for Rain urban garden in the Highland neighborhood of Detroit, earlier this summer. If you listen carefully, you may hear the sound of the intermittent windshield wipers going across the glass of Skellenger’s truck. Romy and Chris had to dash into it during a summer storm, as they were talking amongst the raised bed vegetable garden, planted in what was the parking lot of an abandoned building.</p>
<p>Skellenger started Buckets of Rain as part of his mission work to feed hungry people in Africa. The name of the organization comes from an irrigation device that he and a colleague device to help capture rain and irrigate arid land so that food can be grown. He tells the tale of why he set up shop in Detroit, in some of its most blighted communities, which do not have grocery stores or access to fresh fruits and vegetables. These areas are called Food Deserts. Skellenger and Gingras also talk about the impact the garden is having on nearby residents and a handful of homeless shelters run by the Detroit Rescue Ministries.<br />
You are listening to a unique episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, as the emphasis is on the Social and not the enterprise. That’s because Buckets of Rain, as of this time, has no definitive plans to transition from its status as a non-profit organization. Hence, fundraising efforts are ongoing.</p>
<p>If you’d like to know more about the Woodie Guthrie-inspired sing-along in Traverse City from August 20th through the 23rd, you’ll find more information on the Buckets of Rain Website. If you’re nearby you should see if, after singing “This Land is Your Land” for about 1,000 times Chris Skellenger can tell the difference between a beet and a parsnip.</p>
<p>Meantime, don’t forget to take the Bonfires of Social Enterprise poll on our home page. We need to gather that “natural data” about who is listening and downloading our stories. It won’t take but a minute of your time.</p>
<p>Here’s where you can find us, and Gingras Global.<br />
For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
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<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/buckets-of-rain]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=284</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d8390d79-47ce-423c-98b4-84f3af718882/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:09:19 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1f3872e7-60d3-45b0-99f3-0ea122925fdf/bucketsofrain.mp3" length="26571639" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>This episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise emphasises the social. Listen how faith-based and big corporations are helping Buckets of Rain feed shelters.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Give Lyrics#32</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Give Lyrics#32</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/GiveLyrics.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3744467/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h1>Dig the Music.Support a Movement.</h1>
<h2>Make Money 24/7.</h2>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/woodardapril" target="_blank">April Woodard</a> is the winner of this summer&#8217;s Start Up Weekend in Detroit, where she met Bonfires host Romy Gingras.</p>
<p>Woodard won for presenting her latest business enterprise, called <a href="http://www.givelyrics.co/" target="_blank">Give Lyrics</a>.</p>
<p>Native Detroiter, Woodard has been a part of the urban music scene for many years, as a promoter, marketing strategist and an artist representative. She&#8217;s the founder of the company, <a href="http://digitallungz.co/" target="_blank">Digital Lungz</a> and is an expert in audio and video technology.</p>
<p>April shares with Romy the genesis of her idea for Give Lyrics. April says she created it because she&#8217;s a music fan. One of the first things she does when she goes to a concert is look for &#8220;the merch,&#8221; the T-shirts, posters, and other swag, that she can buy. But, Woodard saw a need for fans to express themselves with unique art on their apparel, and she also saw a great way to give back to the community as a whole. Give Lyrics will partner with the social-responsibility programs of music labels, and cause marketing, philanthropic programs launched by artists. Portions of each sale will go to these causes. The design of music art and purchases, of the merchandise, will be made through her new website, which is still in development.</p>
<p>Rock-Concert goers of all ages will understand why the Give Lyrics idea is an award winning one, as April and Romy talk about how T-Shirts get passed down from generation to generation. How many of us have concert paraphernalia that we just cannot bear to throw out, or give away?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a rap fan from way back, from old school, through to today you probably have seen April at performances, or have read quotes from her in Detroit area publications such as <a href="http://www.examiner.com/" target="_blank">The Examiner</a> or, you&#8217;ve read her posts on <a href="http://detroitrockcityusa.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>.</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
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<h1>Dig the Music.Support a Movement.</h1>
<h2>Make Money 24/7.</h2>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/woodardapril" target="_blank">April Woodard</a> is the winner of this summer&#8217;s Start Up Weekend in Detroit, where she met Bonfires host Romy Gingras.</p>
<p>Woodard won for presenting her latest business enterprise, called <a href="http://www.givelyrics.co/" target="_blank">Give Lyrics</a>.</p>
<p>Native Detroiter, Woodard has been a part of the urban music scene for many years, as a promoter, marketing strategist and an artist representative. She&#8217;s the founder of the company, <a href="http://digitallungz.co/" target="_blank">Digital Lungz</a> and is an expert in audio and video technology.</p>
<p>April shares with Romy the genesis of her idea for Give Lyrics. April says she created it because she&#8217;s a music fan. One of the first things she does when she goes to a concert is look for &#8220;the merch,&#8221; the T-shirts, posters, and other swag, that she can buy. But, Woodard saw a need for fans to express themselves with unique art on their apparel, and she also saw a great way to give back to the community as a whole. Give Lyrics will partner with the social-responsibility programs of music labels, and cause marketing, philanthropic programs launched by artists. Portions of each sale will go to these causes. The design of music art and purchases, of the merchandise, will be made through her new website, which is still in development.</p>
<p>Rock-Concert goers of all ages will understand why the Give Lyrics idea is an award winning one, as April and Romy talk about how T-Shirts get passed down from generation to generation. How many of us have concert paraphernalia that we just cannot bear to throw out, or give away?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a rap fan from way back, from old school, through to today you probably have seen April at performances, or have read quotes from her in Detroit area publications such as <a href="http://www.examiner.com/" target="_blank">The Examiner</a> or, you&#8217;ve read her posts on <a href="http://detroitrockcityusa.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">Tumblr</a>.</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/give-lyrics]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=278</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1d3bb95f-4638-4d8f-b9fd-7d315612776c/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:49:29 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9a97256e-b16a-4201-b024-65b62aee211d/givelyrics1.mp3" length="23879960" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit music scene pro, April Woodard is the winner of this summer&apos;s Detroit StartUp Weekend contest. That&apos;s where she met Romy Gingras, of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast. Romy and April talk about her award winning idea, called &quot;Give Lyrics.&quot;</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Pivot Point#31</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Pivot Point#31</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3730277/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Upcycling People and Things</h2>
<p>Romy Gingras, the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast, visited Tim Adams, in Midland, Michigan. Midland is the home of a new program of the 1016 Recovery Network, called Pivot Point. Adams is 1016&#8217;s director of recovery enterprises. He and Romy talk about all the services Pivot Point provides those who want to recover from substance and alcohol abuse.</p>
<p><a href="http://1016.org/our-services/esupports/pd" target="_blank">Pivot Point </a> provides classroom training, peer support and job-skills training. The job training comes from a shop that accepts donations of used washing machines, clothes dryers and other household appliances.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the social enterprise portion of Pivot Point &#8212;<br />
Upcycling stuff and keeping them out of landfills, or the side of the road and helping to train people who are considered unemployable.</p>
<p>One can say that this Midland, Michigan storefront is &#8220;upcycling&#8221; both people and things.</p>
<p>You can find out more about the Pivot <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pivot-Point/" target="_blank">Point via the organization&#8217;s Facebook page,</a> or by visiting the website of its parent organization, <a href="http://1016.org/" target="_blank">1016 Recovery Network.</a></p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p>
<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:<br />
<a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a><br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your listening support!<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/PivotPoint2.jpg"></a></p>
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<h2>Upcycling People and Things</h2>
<p>Romy Gingras, the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast, visited Tim Adams, in Midland, Michigan. Midland is the home of a new program of the 1016 Recovery Network, called Pivot Point. Adams is 1016&#8217;s director of recovery enterprises. He and Romy talk about all the services Pivot Point provides those who want to recover from substance and alcohol abuse.</p>
<p><a href="http://1016.org/our-services/esupports/pd" target="_blank">Pivot Point </a> provides classroom training, peer support and job-skills training. The job training comes from a shop that accepts donations of used washing machines, clothes dryers and other household appliances.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the social enterprise portion of Pivot Point &#8212;<br />
Upcycling stuff and keeping them out of landfills, or the side of the road and helping to train people who are considered unemployable.</p>
<p>One can say that this Midland, Michigan storefront is &#8220;upcycling&#8221; both people and things.</p>
<p>You can find out more about the Pivot <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pivot-Point/" target="_blank">Point via the organization&#8217;s Facebook page,</a> or by visiting the website of its parent organization, <a href="http://1016.org/" target="_blank">1016 Recovery Network.</a></p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p>
<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:<br />
<a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a><br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a><br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your listening support!<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/PivotPoint2.jpg"></a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/pivot-point]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=273</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/6b2c90dc-ac80-41d7-9efb-2cd7074a3956/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:16:56 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1047431c-b3fc-4c89-8a72-34a7c045c168/pivotpointtimadams.mp3" length="24063470" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:50</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Upcycling People and Things Romy Gingras, the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast, visited Tim Adams, in Midland, Michigan. Midland is the home of a new program of the 1016 Recovery Network, called Pivot Point. Adams is 1016’s director of recovery enterprises. He and Romy talk about all the services Pivot Point provides…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Garage Bands – Field Notes#30</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Garage Bands – Field Notes#30</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>Field Notes and Tips – A Series of Special Lessons from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise</h2><p>This is another of an occasional podcast by the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, that’s filed under Field Notes and Tips.</p><p>In this episode, Romy talks to social enterprise owners who worry about being a small enterprise and wonder when they can take off and grow their business, and hire more people.</p><p>In previous Field Notes and Tips, Romy discusses the perils of wanting to do too much of the social part of your business&nbsp;and not enough of the enterprise, <a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/bait_of_new_grape_field_note.mp3" target="_blank">in Bait of the New Grape.</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/1__What_Is_the_Bonfires_of_Social_Enterprise_.mp3" target="_blank">What Are Bonfires</a>, <a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/FieldNotesAndTips_natural_Data.mp3" target="_blank">and why collecting data isn’t scary</a>.</p><p>We encourage you to please listen to this episode and share it, and, when you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website</p><p>Get Social with the Bonfires of Social Enterprise crew here:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p><p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p><p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p><p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p><p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal </a></p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Field Notes and Tips – A Series of Special Lessons from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise</h2><p>This is another of an occasional podcast by the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, that’s filed under Field Notes and Tips.</p><p>In this episode, Romy talks to social enterprise owners who worry about being a small enterprise and wonder when they can take off and grow their business, and hire more people.</p><p>In previous Field Notes and Tips, Romy discusses the perils of wanting to do too much of the social part of your business&nbsp;and not enough of the enterprise, <a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/bait_of_new_grape_field_note.mp3" target="_blank">in Bait of the New Grape.</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/1__What_Is_the_Bonfires_of_Social_Enterprise_.mp3" target="_blank">What Are Bonfires</a>, <a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/FieldNotesAndTips_natural_Data.mp3" target="_blank">and why collecting data isn’t scary</a>.</p><p>We encourage you to please listen to this episode and share it, and, when you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website</p><p>Get Social with the Bonfires of Social Enterprise crew here:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p><p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p><p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p><p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p><p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal </a></p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/garage-bands]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=267</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/71ed11c1-7381-444f-a24a-1aee76b8df91/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2015 19:50:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ca796a62-652d-408f-9d6f-651599b82b58/fieldnotestipsgaragebands.mp3" length="14910845" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>15:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Field Notes and Tips – A Series of Special Lessons from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise This is another of an occasional podcast by the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, that’s filed under Field Notes and Tips. In this episode, Romy talks to social enterprise owners who worry about being…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Bonfires-Los Angeles, A Preview#29</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Bonfires-Los Angeles, A Preview#29</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h2>A Short Podcast to Preview Upcoming Episodes Recorded in L.A.</h2>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>This is a short podcast from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise, a preview of upcoming episodes about Romy Gingras&#8217; visit to Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Romy discusses the inspiring social entrepreneurs whom she met at the invitation of<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/our-team/cecily-jackson-zapata-2/" target="_blank"> Cecily Jackson-Zapata of the Sustainable Law Group</a>. Jackson-Zapata is the a director of <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/our-team/cecily-jackson-zapata-2/" target="_blank">the L.A. Kitchen</a>, and Vice Chair of the Sustainable Enterprise Alliance of Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Romy also had the chance to talk with <a href="http://urbanegallant.com/" target="_blank">Andrew Park of men&#8217;s clothier Urbane and Gallan</a>t as well as L.A. Kitchen founder and director <a href="http://www.robertegger.org/about" target="_blank">Robert Egger.</a></p>
<p>Be sure to check out our updated podcast feeds! Listen to Romy and Cecily co-interviewing Andrew Park of Urbane + Gallant, and talk about their experiences visiting Skid Row and the Downtown Women&#8217;s Center. Hear their conversation with the L-A Kitchen&#8217;s Robert Eggers.</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>A Short Podcast to Preview Upcoming Episodes Recorded in L.A.</h2>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3716458/height/70/width/640/theme/standard-mini/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>This is a short podcast from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise, a preview of upcoming episodes about Romy Gingras&#8217; visit to Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Romy discusses the inspiring social entrepreneurs whom she met at the invitation of<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/our-team/cecily-jackson-zapata-2/" target="_blank"> Cecily Jackson-Zapata of the Sustainable Law Group</a>. Jackson-Zapata is the a director of <a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/our-team/cecily-jackson-zapata-2/" target="_blank">the L.A. Kitchen</a>, and Vice Chair of the Sustainable Enterprise Alliance of Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Romy also had the chance to talk with <a href="http://urbanegallant.com/" target="_blank">Andrew Park of men&#8217;s clothier Urbane and Gallan</a>t as well as L.A. Kitchen founder and director <a href="http://www.robertegger.org/about" target="_blank">Robert Egger.</a></p>
<p>Be sure to check out our updated podcast feeds! Listen to Romy and Cecily co-interviewing Andrew Park of Urbane + Gallant, and talk about their experiences visiting Skid Row and the Downtown Women&#8217;s Center. Hear their conversation with the L-A Kitchen&#8217;s Robert Eggers.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/bonfires-los-angeles]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=261</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/894fb9f7-706f-49dc-b4bb-f47721c764b6/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2015 00:56:08 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/81926b02-df9a-4e7a-ac99-9321e16af8f8/losangelespreview08042015.mp3" length="4383999" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>04:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>A Short Podcast to Preview Upcoming Episodes Recorded in L.A.   This is a short podcast from The Bonfires of Social Enterprise, a preview of upcoming episodes about Romy Gingras’ visit to Los Angeles. Romy discusses the inspiring social entrepreneurs whom she met at the invitation of Cecily Jackson-Zapata of the Sustainable Law Group. Jackson-Zapata…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Cecily Jackson-Zapata#28</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Cecily Jackson-Zapata#28</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Cecily.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Cecily.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Two Sustainable Business Consultants Rapping About Social Enterprise</h2>
<h3>Los Angeles Attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata Joins Romy Gingras on Bonfires</h3>
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<p>In This Episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras and Los Angeles based attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata rap about the business of consulting and advising social enterprise businesses. You&#8217;ll be able to listen into a conversation between two colleagues and hear them compare notes about the struggles and scenearios that they share.</p>
<p>Romy explains that this was supposed to be a practice recording for upcoming podcast production sessons. But, we at Flatlands Avenue Productions enjoyed the banter so much we convinced her to let us share it with her podcast subscribers.<br />
<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">To find out more about Cecily Jackson &#8211; Zapata please click here.</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bcorporation.net/what-are-b-corps" target="_blank">To learn more about B-Corps please click here.</a></p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p>
<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal</a></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Cecily.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Cecily.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Two Sustainable Business Consultants Rapping About Social Enterprise</h2>
<h3>Los Angeles Attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata Joins Romy Gingras on Bonfires</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3697233/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>In This Episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras and Los Angeles based attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata rap about the business of consulting and advising social enterprise businesses. You&#8217;ll be able to listen into a conversation between two colleagues and hear them compare notes about the struggles and scenearios that they share.</p>
<p>Romy explains that this was supposed to be a practice recording for upcoming podcast production sessons. But, we at Flatlands Avenue Productions enjoyed the banter so much we convinced her to let us share it with her podcast subscribers.<br />
<a href="http://sustainable-lawyer.com/" target="_blank">To find out more about Cecily Jackson &#8211; Zapata please click here.</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bcorporation.net/what-are-b-corps" target="_blank">To learn more about B-Corps please click here.</a></p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p>
<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/GingrasGlobal" target="_blank">Twitter @GingrasGlobal</a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/cecilyjackson-zapata]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=250</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/490ab5b6-9575-41d6-a6e1-c4b48b697088/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:49:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/42c6a6a3-d48b-4e73-a023-0dd2270b5204/cecily.mp3" length="17323783" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Two Sustainable Business Consultants Rapping About Social Enterprise Los Angeles Attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata Joins Romy Gingras on Bonfires In This Episode of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras and Los Angeles based attorney Cecily Jackson-Zapata rap about the business of consulting and advising social enterprise businesses. You’ll be able to listen into a conversation…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Play-Place for Autistic Children#27</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Play-Place for Autistic Children#27</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Playplace2.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Playplace2.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Sterling Heights, Michigan Non-Profit Brings Community Together</h2>
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The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visited the non-profit social enterprise The Play-Place for Autistic Children. Host Romy Gingras talked with Shell Jones, who is President and CEO of this facility located in Sterling Heights, Michigan. Jones shared what inspired the idea for Play-Place and her goals for the future. The facility is meant to be a safe place where children and their parents are free to play, relax, and relate to those who understand the challenges of living with and raising a child on the Autism spectrum. Romy gained an understanding about the various revenue streams this social enterprise is developing, and the services they provide.</p>
<p>Shell Jones says she looked for a place that would encourage social involvement of her son who is on the Autism Spectrum near where she lives. But, she came to the realization that the teaching by play concept place that she desired wasn&#8217;t available. So, she set out to create a special place that caters not only to the kids, but also to all members of their families. Bonfires host Romy Gingras explores the commercial and union enterprises, teachers and social scients who are donating time, treasure and talent to build The Play-Place for Autistic Children.</p>
<p>Shell Jones can be reached via <a href="http://autisticplayplace.org/" target="_blank">The Play-Place for Autistic Children&#8217;s website</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TeamAutism" target="_blank">Facebook page</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/TeemAutism" target="_blank">on Twitter </a></p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Playplace2.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Playplace2.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>Sterling Heights, Michigan Non-Profit Brings Community Together</h2>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3691481/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visited the non-profit social enterprise The Play-Place for Autistic Children. Host Romy Gingras talked with Shell Jones, who is President and CEO of this facility located in Sterling Heights, Michigan. Jones shared what inspired the idea for Play-Place and her goals for the future. The facility is meant to be a safe place where children and their parents are free to play, relax, and relate to those who understand the challenges of living with and raising a child on the Autism spectrum. Romy gained an understanding about the various revenue streams this social enterprise is developing, and the services they provide.</p>
<p>Shell Jones says she looked for a place that would encourage social involvement of her son who is on the Autism Spectrum near where she lives. But, she came to the realization that the teaching by play concept place that she desired wasn&#8217;t available. So, she set out to create a special place that caters not only to the kids, but also to all members of their families. Bonfires host Romy Gingras explores the commercial and union enterprises, teachers and social scients who are donating time, treasure and talent to build The Play-Place for Autistic Children.</p>
<p>Shell Jones can be reached via <a href="http://autisticplayplace.org/" target="_blank">The Play-Place for Autistic Children&#8217;s website</a> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/TeamAutism" target="_blank">Facebook page</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/TeemAutism" target="_blank">on Twitter </a></p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/playplace]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=241</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1124ffe5-66ea-439f-b5ae-daff6ae0b1eb/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:46:19 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/cae5f346-b6bc-42ba-8242-572e97432d76/playplaceforautism.mp3" length="25803757" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>26:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Sterling Heights, Michigan Non-Profit Brings Community Together The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visited the non-profit social enterprise The Play-Place for Autistic Children. Host Romy Gingras talked with Shell Jones, who is President and CEO of this facility located in Sterling Heights, Michigan. Jones shared what inspired the idea for Play-Place and her goals for the…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Elvis &amp; Kresse, London#26</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Elvis &amp; Kresse, London#26</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ElvisKresse2.jpeg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3687869/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Elvis &amp; Kresse Make Beautiful Things Out of Discarded Fire Hoses</h2>
<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras talks with Kresse Wesling, who, with her love, Elvis (James) Henrit own Elvis &amp; Kresse. Kresse says she upcycles instead of recycles. She and Romy talk about why she works with discarded fire hoses and where she first found them.</p>
<p>Elvis &amp; Kresse has become well known for their sturdy belts, wallets, luggage and other products. The company donates 50% of their profits to fire fighter related charities in the UK. Romy and Kresse talk about the pros and cons of working with family; the tons and tons of fire hoses that get discarded and her hopes to expand her company, one day, to North America. They also touch briefly about how Kresse met Elvis in Hong Kong.</p>
<p>Kresse Wesling has been honored by the British monarchy for her work with social enterprises. In 2012 Kresse was awarded by Queen Elizabeth II the title of Member of the Order of the British Empire: an honor given to a person by the Queen for a particular achievement. Sources : Canada Gazette <a href="http://www.gazette.gc.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.gazette.gc.ca/</a> and The Financial Times of the UK<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/13d9b906-50f1-11e2-9623-00144feab49a.html#axzz3gTkqJpMe" target="_blank"> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/13d9b906-50f1-11e2-9623-00144feab49a.html#axzz3gTkqJpMe</a><br />
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ElvisKresse2.jpeg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3687869/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Elvis &amp; Kresse Make Beautiful Things Out of Discarded Fire Hoses</h2>
<p>The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras talks with Kresse Wesling, who, with her love, Elvis (James) Henrit own Elvis &amp; Kresse. Kresse says she upcycles instead of recycles. She and Romy talk about why she works with discarded fire hoses and where she first found them.</p>
<p>Elvis &amp; Kresse has become well known for their sturdy belts, wallets, luggage and other products. The company donates 50% of their profits to fire fighter related charities in the UK. Romy and Kresse talk about the pros and cons of working with family; the tons and tons of fire hoses that get discarded and her hopes to expand her company, one day, to North America. They also touch briefly about how Kresse met Elvis in Hong Kong.</p>
<p>Kresse Wesling has been honored by the British monarchy for her work with social enterprises. In 2012 Kresse was awarded by Queen Elizabeth II the title of Member of the Order of the British Empire: an honor given to a person by the Queen for a particular achievement. Sources : Canada Gazette <a href="http://www.gazette.gc.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.gazette.gc.ca/</a> and The Financial Times of the UK<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/13d9b906-50f1-11e2-9623-00144feab49a.html#axzz3gTkqJpMe" target="_blank"> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/13d9b906-50f1-11e2-9623-00144feab49a.html#axzz3gTkqJpMe</a><br />
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/elviskresse]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=231</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/05907afc-5637-4946-9b68-0416ea139915/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:12:28 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/bae5ad9b-d5af-4e0c-a0c2-81e5d2c95267/elviskresse.mp3" length="40495860" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>27:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Elvis &amp; Kresse Make Beautiful Things Out of Discarded Fire Hoses The Bonfires of Social Enterprise with Romy Gingras talks with Kresse Wesling, who, with her love, Elvis (James) Henrit own Elvis &amp; Kresse. Kresse says she upcycles instead of recycles. She and Romy talk about why she works with discarded fire hoses and where…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Detroit Ento#25</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Detroit Ento#25</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DetroitEnto.jpg"></a>Don&#8217;t Step on That Bug! They&#8217;re Making Food &amp; Medicine Out of Them!</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3677347/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
Detroit Ento is a a research and development firm that is doing research on all the things humankind can do with bugs, from crickets to meely worms to maggots, and more. Really. It&#8217;s about creating protein rich powders and other products from insects. The Bonfire of Social Enterprise&#8217;s Romy Gingras visited Detroit Ento&#8217;s Anthony Hatinger, while he was working on the garden Detroit Ento created, smack-dabb in the middle of Detroit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insectsarefood.com/what_is_entomophagy.html" target="_blank"> To quote insectsarefood.com </a>&#8220;According to the Entomological Society of America insects generally contain more protein and are lower in fat than traditional meats. In addition they have about 20 times higher food conversion efficiency than traditional meats. In other words they have a better feed-to-meat ratio than beef, pork, lamb or chicken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hatinger and Gingras discussed the potential for profit and the job creation aspects of Detrot Ento, while insect products for food and medicinal purposes are being researched and produced in Detroit.</p>
<p>Look for a Detroit Ento LLC Facebook page in the near future. To contact the firm email Hatinger at hatingan@gmail.com.</p>
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<p>Thanks for listening!</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DetroitEnto.jpg"></a>Don&#8217;t Step on That Bug! They&#8217;re Making Food &amp; Medicine Out of Them!</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3677347/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
Detroit Ento is a a research and development firm that is doing research on all the things humankind can do with bugs, from crickets to meely worms to maggots, and more. Really. It&#8217;s about creating protein rich powders and other products from insects. The Bonfire of Social Enterprise&#8217;s Romy Gingras visited Detroit Ento&#8217;s Anthony Hatinger, while he was working on the garden Detroit Ento created, smack-dabb in the middle of Detroit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insectsarefood.com/what_is_entomophagy.html" target="_blank"> To quote insectsarefood.com </a>&#8220;According to the Entomological Society of America insects generally contain more protein and are lower in fat than traditional meats. In addition they have about 20 times higher food conversion efficiency than traditional meats. In other words they have a better feed-to-meat ratio than beef, pork, lamb or chicken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hatinger and Gingras discussed the potential for profit and the job creation aspects of Detrot Ento, while insect products for food and medicinal purposes are being researched and produced in Detroit.</p>
<p>Look for a Detroit Ento LLC Facebook page in the near future. To contact the firm email Hatinger at hatingan@gmail.com.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
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<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p>
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<p>Thanks for listening!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/detroitento]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=213</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/bce712f5-24be-4377-a3d5-2fc194a15c7f/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2015 03:05:18 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f433cbe4-d54b-47ab-b1cc-fe5f30e6be2f/detroitento07092015.mp3" length="22640262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>23:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Don’t Step on That Bug! They’re Making Food &amp; Medicine Out of Them! Detroit Ento is a a research and development firm that is doing research on all the things humankind can do with bugs, from crickets to meely worms to maggots, and more. Really. It’s about creating protein rich powders and other products from…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Bamboo Detroit#24</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Bamboo Detroit#24</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/BambooDetroit.jpeg"></a>Exploring a Collaborative Workspace In Downtown Detroit</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3672097/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visits with Bamboo Detroit,a business incubator site in a historic Detroit building. Romy talks about why this place has a more &#8220;homey&#8221; feel to it than other businesses like it, with Bamboo Detroit&#8217;s &#8220;Community Lady&#8217; Amanda Lewan.<br />
Despite it&#8217;s name, Detroit Bamboo isn&#8217;t an exotic Asian restaurant. It&#8217;s a L3C company, located at 1442 Brush St, Suite 200, in downtown Detroit near the corner of Gratiot and Brush. <a href="http://bamboodetroit.com/" target="_blank">On the web Bamboo Detroit lives here.</a></p>
<p>According to the <a href="http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/small/Bo-Co/Business-Incubators.html" target="_blank">online sources</a> there are many benefits to working in a business incubator, which started becoming prevalent in some areas of the country in the 1970s and 1980s. These benefits include sharing basic operating costs; administrative assitance; and least but not last, comradship amongst your fellows who work in the same space.</p>
<p>Romy Gingras finds out why Bamboo Detroit was born, and what inspired it to be open 24 hours/7 days a week. The interview also explores why this work cooperative offers open workspaces and other amenities, and the types of small businesses that are attracted to work space. In addition Romy and Amanda talk about the types of events that Bamboo organizes and what is behind the scheduleing of these events.<br />
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/BambooDetroit.jpeg"></a>Exploring a Collaborative Workspace In Downtown Detroit</h3>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3672097/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visits with Bamboo Detroit,a business incubator site in a historic Detroit building. Romy talks about why this place has a more &#8220;homey&#8221; feel to it than other businesses like it, with Bamboo Detroit&#8217;s &#8220;Community Lady&#8217; Amanda Lewan.<br />
Despite it&#8217;s name, Detroit Bamboo isn&#8217;t an exotic Asian restaurant. It&#8217;s a L3C company, located at 1442 Brush St, Suite 200, in downtown Detroit near the corner of Gratiot and Brush. <a href="http://bamboodetroit.com/" target="_blank">On the web Bamboo Detroit lives here.</a></p>
<p>According to the <a href="http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/small/Bo-Co/Business-Incubators.html" target="_blank">online sources</a> there are many benefits to working in a business incubator, which started becoming prevalent in some areas of the country in the 1970s and 1980s. These benefits include sharing basic operating costs; administrative assitance; and least but not last, comradship amongst your fellows who work in the same space.</p>
<p>Romy Gingras finds out why Bamboo Detroit was born, and what inspired it to be open 24 hours/7 days a week. The interview also explores why this work cooperative offers open workspaces and other amenities, and the types of small businesses that are attracted to work space. In addition Romy and Amanda talk about the types of events that Bamboo organizes and what is behind the scheduleing of these events.<br />
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/bamboodetroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=207</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/814181d9-94e1-4ab4-9daf-4d20d2446b5b/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:35:43 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4031ef3b-c3eb-4e0a-a386-cc20815e5ddd/bamboodetroit.mp3" length="13211525" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>13:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Exploring a Collaborative Workspace In Downtown Detroit The Bonfires of Social Enterprise visits with Bamboo Detroit,a business incubator site in a historic Detroit building. Romy talks about why this place has a more “homey” feel to it than other businesses like it, with Bamboo Detroit’s “Community Lady’ Amanda Lewan. Despite it’s name, Detroit Bamboo isn’t…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: SPLT Rideshare#23</title><itunes:title>Season 1: SPLT Rideshare#23</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SPLT2.jpeg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SPLT2.jpeg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3663835/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>Romy Gingras, host of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, introduces us to the team behind a brand new app,SPLT Rideshare. <a href="http://www.splittingfares.com/" target="_blank">Splitting Fares.</a> She met them through an organization called <a href="http://www.techstars.com/program/locations/mobility/" target="_blank">Techstars Mobility,</a> which is mentorship driven business incubator, with locations in cities throughout the U.S. Romy&#8217;s venture into the field found her in Ford Field, the Detroit home of Techstars, and SPLT Rideshare.</p>
<p>You can sign up for the app, which is available for both iOS and Android. <a href="http://www.splittingfares.com/" target="_blank">here: </a> It&#8217;s born from a handful of premises including: you want to know who you&#8217;ll be sharing the small space of a car ride with; you want them vetted; you want to avoid having to buy your own car in the future because you&#8217;re a millenial and you live in a city. We hope you enjoy Romy&#8217;s round table discussion with SPLT founder and CEO Anya Babbitt, co-founder and COO Matt Farris, CTO Yale Zhang and the director of product development Ben McMillan.</p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SPLT2.jpeg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SPLT2.jpeg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3663835/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>Romy Gingras, host of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, introduces us to the team behind a brand new app,SPLT Rideshare. <a href="http://www.splittingfares.com/" target="_blank">Splitting Fares.</a> She met them through an organization called <a href="http://www.techstars.com/program/locations/mobility/" target="_blank">Techstars Mobility,</a> which is mentorship driven business incubator, with locations in cities throughout the U.S. Romy&#8217;s venture into the field found her in Ford Field, the Detroit home of Techstars, and SPLT Rideshare.</p>
<p>You can sign up for the app, which is available for both iOS and Android. <a href="http://www.splittingfares.com/" target="_blank">here: </a> It&#8217;s born from a handful of premises including: you want to know who you&#8217;ll be sharing the small space of a car ride with; you want them vetted; you want to avoid having to buy your own car in the future because you&#8217;re a millenial and you live in a city. We hope you enjoy Romy&#8217;s round table discussion with SPLT founder and CEO Anya Babbitt, co-founder and COO Matt Farris, CTO Yale Zhang and the director of product development Ben McMillan.</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/splt-rideshare]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=186</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/18e9c00b-c3b1-4c7f-afdf-392ad75d1a44/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2015 22:28:35 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7ec683c6-6126-4284-90f9-801be81190ef/bonfiresspltattechstar.mp3" length="43051218" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy Gingras, host of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, introduces us to the team behind a brand new app,SPLT Rideshare. Splitting Fares. She met them through an organization called Techstars Mobility, which is mentorship driven business incubator, with locations in cities throughout the U.S. Romy’s venture into the field found her in Ford Field, the…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Field Notes- Taking The Bait#22</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Field Notes- Taking The Bait#22</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3652612/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>This is another podcast by the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, that&#8217;s filed under &#8220;Field Notes and Tips.&#8221; We hope you enjoy listening to Romy Gingras'&#8221;Bait of the New Grape.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy talks about business owners, who focus on social goals, trying to do too much with the resources they have. In the case of those who run social enterprises, the bait of doing even more &#8220;good&#8221; or fulfilling more of the needs of their clients, with the hours and money they already have can be irresistable. Unfortunately, spreading yourself too thin can be disasterous, and can bankrupt your business. Romy discusses how to stay focussed and organized as you work toward your primary objectivies, while acknowledging that creative people often get tempted to bite off more than they can chew.</p>
<p>Check out previous Field Notes:<a title="What Are Bonfires?" href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/1__What_Is_the_Bonfires_of_Social_Enterprise_.mp3">What Are Bonfires</a></p>
<p>She also explains the need for collecting data, and takes the fear out of the term,<br />
<a title="Natural Data" href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/FieldNotesAndTips_natural_Data.mp3" target="_blank"><br />
Natural Data</a></p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3652612/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>This is another podcast by the Bonfires of Social Enterprise, and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, that&#8217;s filed under &#8220;Field Notes and Tips.&#8221; We hope you enjoy listening to Romy Gingras'&#8221;Bait of the New Grape.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy talks about business owners, who focus on social goals, trying to do too much with the resources they have. In the case of those who run social enterprises, the bait of doing even more &#8220;good&#8221; or fulfilling more of the needs of their clients, with the hours and money they already have can be irresistable. Unfortunately, spreading yourself too thin can be disasterous, and can bankrupt your business. Romy discusses how to stay focussed and organized as you work toward your primary objectivies, while acknowledging that creative people often get tempted to bite off more than they can chew.</p>
<p>Check out previous Field Notes:<a title="What Are Bonfires?" href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/1__What_Is_the_Bonfires_of_Social_Enterprise_.mp3">What Are Bonfires</a></p>
<p>She also explains the need for collecting data, and takes the fear out of the term,<br />
<a title="Natural Data" href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/bonfiresofsocialenterprise/FieldNotesAndTips_natural_Data.mp3" target="_blank"><br />
Natural Data</a></p>
<p>We encourage you to please listen to this episode, and share it, and, when you have the chance, please take some time to fill out the short survey found on the Bonfires Website</p>
<p>Get Social with the Bonfires of Social Enterprise crew here:</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/field-notes-and-tips_the-bait]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=172</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/7c87bbc7-c1bd-4b33-a937-18fb896b3012/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2015 19:49:44 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7a48fa4b-d63a-423e-a678-87d40307be01/1whatisthebonfiresofsocialenterprise.mp3" length="12070501" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>&quot;The Bait of the New Grape,&quot; is part of a series of &quot;Field Notes and Tips&quot;, presented by The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Romy talks about entrepreneuers taking the  bait of wanting to do more to help their customers or clients. But, unforunately, they sacrifice the time and cash they need to keep their current businesses going.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: City Girls Soap#21</title><itunes:title>Season 1: City Girls Soap#21</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/CityGirlsSoap2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3624685/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
Goat farming in Pontiac. It&#8217;s about making products with that milk, using the goats to eat the overgrowth of a previously vacant lot to restore the landscape to it&#8217;s native messa-plain state. But more importantly, it&#8217;s about building a social enterprise while cuddling up with a kid or two!</p>
<p>In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras visits with City Girls Soap and talks with co-founder Amy McIntire and one of her United Way funded summer interns at the urban goat farm and soap factory. This social enterprise aspires to not only provide training to urban area students about entrepreneurship,and raising farm animals, but ultimately the owners of City Girls Soaps want to raise a barn and make it an art and cultural center for Pontiac.</p>
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Goat farming in Pontiac. It&#8217;s about making products with that milk, using the goats to eat the overgrowth of a previously vacant lot to restore the landscape to it&#8217;s native messa-plain state. But more importantly, it&#8217;s about building a social enterprise while cuddling up with a kid or two!</p>
<p>In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras visits with City Girls Soap and talks with co-founder Amy McIntire and one of her United Way funded summer interns at the urban goat farm and soap factory. This social enterprise aspires to not only provide training to urban area students about entrepreneurship,and raising farm animals, but ultimately the owners of City Girls Soaps want to raise a barn and make it an art and cultural center for Pontiac.</p>
<p>Socialize with us!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thebonfireslady.tumblr.com" target="_blank">Check out The Bonfire Lady Blog</a></p>
<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Gingras Global Website</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/GingrasGlobal?fref=ts" target="_blank">Gingras Global Facebook</a></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/citygirlssoap]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=148</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/c14f4d2b-f61a-41da-bb1c-da79d0966c13/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2015 03:22:25 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/093bd281-71ac-48b5-a00f-dd38c2c222fb/citygirlssoap.mp3" length="26961777" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>18:34</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Goat farming in Pontiac. It’s about making products with that milk, using the goats to eat the overgrowth of a previously vacant lot to restore the landscape to it’s native messa-plain state. But more importantly, it’s about building a social enterprise while cuddling up with a kid or two! In this episode of Bonfires of…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Field Notes &amp; Tips – Natural Data#20</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Field Notes &amp; Tips – Natural Data#20</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FieldNotsGarageBand.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3611967/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
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<p>This is the first of a series of &#8220;Field Notes &amp; Tips,&#8221; from Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global Group, and the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast.</p>
<p>In this episode Romy takes the stress out of gathering data that some impact investors and funders often request from social enterprises, and other types of businesses. Romy is developing this series of podcasts from a list of frequently asked questions that she answers over and over again. If you&#8217;re an entrepreneuer, a small business owner, or somebody considering changing your career path we encourage you to listen to this and all the episodes of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. You&#8217;ll find that what you once felt was the intimidating details of business can be managed. Romy&#8217;s here to tell you that you can do it! <a title="Gingras Global's books page" href="http://gingrasglobal.com/books/">If you&#8217;d like to read more about Romy&#8217;s Notes from the Field, buy her books! </a></p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:<br />
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<p>This is the first of a series of &#8220;Field Notes &amp; Tips,&#8221; from Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global Group, and the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast.</p>
<p>In this episode Romy takes the stress out of gathering data that some impact investors and funders often request from social enterprises, and other types of businesses. Romy is developing this series of podcasts from a list of frequently asked questions that she answers over and over again. If you&#8217;re an entrepreneuer, a small business owner, or somebody considering changing your career path we encourage you to listen to this and all the episodes of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise. You&#8217;ll find that what you once felt was the intimidating details of business can be managed. Romy&#8217;s here to tell you that you can do it! <a title="Gingras Global's books page" href="http://gingrasglobal.com/books/">If you&#8217;d like to read more about Romy&#8217;s Notes from the Field, buy her books! </a></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/field-notes-tips-natural-data]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=142</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/621e567a-2297-4095-a423-452ca7139308/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:45:29 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/9271ed3a-3211-42a5-8718-acb3cfdddd5e/fieldnotesandtipsnaturaldata.mp3" length="23508951" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>16:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>This is the first of a series of “Field Notes &amp; Tips,” from Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global Group, and the host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise podcast. In this episode Romy takes the stress out of gathering data that some impact investors and funders often request from social enterprises, and other types of…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Kicks 4 Kids Foundation#19</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Kicks 4 Kids Foundation#19</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Kicks4Kids.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>How A Teacher Provides Athletic Shoes for Children</h2>
<h3>The Kicks for Kids Foundation</h3>
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<p>Romy visits her friend Chekeita Jones in Pontiac, Michigan. Ms. Jones is a teacher and talks about what inspired her to create the Kicks 4 Kids Foundation, which gives brand named sneakers for needy children. Romy and Chekeita talk about the impact this social enterprise makes on the children who get the sneakers. They also talk about the street sense of the kids and what this foundation needs to grow and expand its mission. It&#8217;s amazing what one teacher can do and how far reaching her efforts have been. Please share the link to this podcast to friends and family members, and to the teachers in your life.<br />
To donate to the Kicks for Kids Foundation please go to <a href="http://www.kicks4kidsfoundation.org" target="_blank">http://www.kicks4kidsfoundation.org/</a></p>
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<h2>How A Teacher Provides Athletic Shoes for Children</h2>
<h3>The Kicks for Kids Foundation</h3>
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<p>Romy visits her friend Chekeita Jones in Pontiac, Michigan. Ms. Jones is a teacher and talks about what inspired her to create the Kicks 4 Kids Foundation, which gives brand named sneakers for needy children. Romy and Chekeita talk about the impact this social enterprise makes on the children who get the sneakers. They also talk about the street sense of the kids and what this foundation needs to grow and expand its mission. It&#8217;s amazing what one teacher can do and how far reaching her efforts have been. Please share the link to this podcast to friends and family members, and to the teachers in your life.<br />
To donate to the Kicks for Kids Foundation please go to <a href="http://www.kicks4kidsfoundation.org" target="_blank">http://www.kicks4kidsfoundation.org/</a></p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/kicks-4-kids-foundation]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=133</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/613288ec-88f1-490c-a68d-436422c265df/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2015 04:43:13 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b9a19bc2-bcb8-4d2f-a42b-8c1d4a5c7395/kicks4kidschekita.mp3" length="28967787" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:58</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>How A Teacher Provides Athletic Shoes for Children The Kicks for Kids Foundation Romy visits her friend Chekeita Jones in Pontiac, Michigan. Ms. Jones is a teacher and talks about what inspired her to create the Kicks 4 Kids Foundation, which gives brand named sneakers for needy children. Romy and Chekeita talk about the impact…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Lips &amp; Hips#18</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Lips &amp; Hips#18</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/LipsHips2.jpg"></a></p>
<h2>A Place for and by the Sisters</h2>
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From &#8220;Sista Suppers,&#8221; to business skills training, Romy Gingras, host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise, talks about what inspired <a href="http://lipsandhips.org/" target="_blank">Lips &amp; Hips</a> founder, Detroit&#8217;s Yodit Mesfin Johnson, to roll up her sleeves and, &#8220;create a space where girls and women could dream, plan and do what they are supposed to do. Lips &amp; Hips is a company focused on women&#8217;s personal leardership development.&#8221; This is part of a series of interviews produced by Flatlands Avenue Productions, LLC, with Gingras Global. Gingras Global is a Limited Liability Company located in Auburn Hills, Michigan. The company was formed in 2011 by founder and current Managing Partner, Romy Gingras. Gingras Global is a social enterprise reporting and standards development firm. All products and services are directed to sustainability and best practices.</p>
<p>Additionally, Gingras Global Groups, L3C was formed in 2014 to serve the Impact Investing Communities.</p>
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<h2>A Place for and by the Sisters</h2>
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From &#8220;Sista Suppers,&#8221; to business skills training, Romy Gingras, host of The Bonfires of Social Enterprise, talks about what inspired <a href="http://lipsandhips.org/" target="_blank">Lips &amp; Hips</a> founder, Detroit&#8217;s Yodit Mesfin Johnson, to roll up her sleeves and, &#8220;create a space where girls and women could dream, plan and do what they are supposed to do. Lips &amp; Hips is a company focused on women&#8217;s personal leardership development.&#8221; This is part of a series of interviews produced by Flatlands Avenue Productions, LLC, with Gingras Global. Gingras Global is a Limited Liability Company located in Auburn Hills, Michigan. The company was formed in 2011 by founder and current Managing Partner, Romy Gingras. Gingras Global is a social enterprise reporting and standards development firm. All products and services are directed to sustainability and best practices.</p>
<p>Additionally, Gingras Global Groups, L3C was formed in 2014 to serve the Impact Investing Communities.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
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<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/lipships]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=127</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/24fcfa2d-b82e-4bb4-9f2c-22d19b0c1575/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2015 19:06:17 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/f39b0e26-ae21-4a79-b7bb-03fa00f901dd/lipships.mp3" length="28698397" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>19:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>From &quot;Sista Suppers,&quot; to business skills training, Romy Gingras talks about what inspired Lips &amp; Hips founder, Yodit Mesfin Johnson, to roll up her sleeves and, &quot;create a space where girls and women could dream, plan and do what they are supposed to do. Lips &amp; Hips is a company focused on women&apos;s personal leardership development.&quot;  For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your listening support!</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Karen Buscemi-Detroit Fashion#17</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Karen Buscemi-Detroit Fashion#17</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/KarenBuscemi2.png"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/KarenBuscemi2.png"></a></p>
<h2>Creating the Building Blocks for Detroit&#8217;s First Fashion District</h2>
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Thank you for listening to this fascinating story of a fashion writer turned job maker and social enterprise entrepreneuer trying to build a workforce pool for Detroit&#8217;s Garment and Fashion Industry. Meet Karen Buscemi, (boo-SHE-me) as she tells the story of the <a href="http://www.detroitgarmentgroup.org/" target="_blank">Detroit Garment Group.</a> DGG is in the process of creating Detroit&#8217;s first-ever Garment District in partnership with the Mayor&#8217;s Office, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, The Governor&#8217;s Office, and Michigan Economic Development Corporation, with DGG as the project lead.</p>
<p>Karen Buscemi is the founder of cut and sewn manufacturer <a href="http://detroitsewn.com/" target="_blank">Detroit Sewn</a> She also wrote for the now defunction Styleline Magazine which celebrated Detroit fashion.</p>
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]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/KarenBuscemi2.png"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/KarenBuscemi2.png"></a></p>
<h2>Creating the Building Blocks for Detroit&#8217;s First Fashion District</h2>
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Thank you for listening to this fascinating story of a fashion writer turned job maker and social enterprise entrepreneuer trying to build a workforce pool for Detroit&#8217;s Garment and Fashion Industry. Meet Karen Buscemi, (boo-SHE-me) as she tells the story of the <a href="http://www.detroitgarmentgroup.org/" target="_blank">Detroit Garment Group.</a> DGG is in the process of creating Detroit&#8217;s first-ever Garment District in partnership with the Mayor&#8217;s Office, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, The Governor&#8217;s Office, and Michigan Economic Development Corporation, with DGG as the project lead.</p>
<p>Karen Buscemi is the founder of cut and sewn manufacturer <a href="http://detroitsewn.com/" target="_blank">Detroit Sewn</a> She also wrote for the now defunction Styleline Magazine which celebrated Detroit fashion.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
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<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/karen-buscemi]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=122</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/68a44833-0d75-4eff-b080-f3e3b85e3e9e/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2015 01:44:27 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/3c508307-370e-4744-80bb-ba2ea4d8cff6/detroitfashiondistrictsewnkarenbuscemi.mp3" length="40740452" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy Gingras&apos; Bonfires Podcast features Karen Buscemi, who is working to create Detroit&apos;s first ever Garment District.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Build Institute-Detroit#16</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Build Institute-Detroit#16</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/BuildInstitute2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3546598/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Training The Next Gen of Detroit&#8217;s Business Owners</h2>
<p>The Build Institute of Detroit is the focus of this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Host Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, talks about programs, that over 450 business owners have taken, at the Build Institute in Detroit. Institute co-founder April Jones Boyle serves on various advisory boards that work to bring business and jobs to Detroit. She&#8217;s also co-owner and investor in the restaurant Gold-Cash-Gold. Romy and April talk about the passion that Institute students have for their city. They speak of the value of the contacts that students make at Build, and the networking opportunities that they get access to when they enrol in Build Institute. To listen to a previous podcast featuring April Boyle from Gold Cash Gold, which is in a former pawn shop visit<br />
<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com" target="_blank">bonfiresofsociaenterprise.com</a>. Please also visit <a href="http://buildinstitute.org" target="_blank">http://buildinstitute.org/ </a> to find out more about signing up for the programs.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
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<p>Email us bonfires@gingrasglobal.com</p>
<p>For more information on Gingras Global please visit us at:</p>
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<p>Thanks for your listening support!</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/BuildInstitute2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3546598/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>Training The Next Gen of Detroit&#8217;s Business Owners</h2>
<p>The Build Institute of Detroit is the focus of this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Host Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, talks about programs, that over 450 business owners have taken, at the Build Institute in Detroit. Institute co-founder April Jones Boyle serves on various advisory boards that work to bring business and jobs to Detroit. She&#8217;s also co-owner and investor in the restaurant Gold-Cash-Gold. Romy and April talk about the passion that Institute students have for their city. They speak of the value of the contacts that students make at Build, and the networking opportunities that they get access to when they enrol in Build Institute. To listen to a previous podcast featuring April Boyle from Gold Cash Gold, which is in a former pawn shop visit<br />
<a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com" target="_blank">bonfiresofsociaenterprise.com</a>. Please also visit <a href="http://buildinstitute.org" target="_blank">http://buildinstitute.org/ </a> to find out more about signing up for the programs.</p>
<p>For more information on other podcasts please visit us on:</p>
<p>Bonfires Website</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/BonfiresofSocialEnterprise?fref=ts" target="_blank">Facebook at Bonfires Facebook Page</a></p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/BonfiresPodcast" target="_blank">Twitter @BonfiresPodcast</a></p>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/build-institute-detroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=104</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/79eda7a2-872c-4ac5-b814-dc2ee1a0b0d2/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2015 16:25:45 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/d53957a7-cae2-4c90-8516-7d03091f4159/buildinstituteapril.mp3" length="32488512" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>22:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Training The Next Gen of Detroit’s Business Owners The Build Institute of Detroit is the focus of this episode of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise. Host Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global, talks about programs, that over 450 business owners have taken, at the Build Institute in Detroit. Institute co-founder April Jones Boyle serves on various…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Welding Artisan Center Part 2#15</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Welding Artisan Center Part 2#15</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/WAC.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3546456/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe>Bonfires of Social Enterprise host, Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global and Gary Hendrickson of the Welding Artisan Center discusses issues social enterprises and other businesses have when trying to get space in the city of Detroit including: mass transit; buying real estate in Detroit; reentry of released inmates to the workplace; the three tiered structure of Welding Artisan&#8217;s training program, and preserving the graffiti on the outside of the building. Find out more about this podcast by going to To inquire about opportunities for training at the Welding Artisan Center please visit their website here</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/WAC.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3546456/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/yes/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe>Bonfires of Social Enterprise host, Romy Gingras, of Gingras Global and Gary Hendrickson of the Welding Artisan Center discusses issues social enterprises and other businesses have when trying to get space in the city of Detroit including: mass transit; buying real estate in Detroit; reentry of released inmates to the workplace; the three tiered structure of Welding Artisan&#8217;s training program, and preserving the graffiti on the outside of the building. Find out more about this podcast by going to To inquire about opportunities for training at the Welding Artisan Center please visit their website here</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/challenges-of-building-a-business-in-detroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=98</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/00b8f208-c693-471b-bdb6-68b606e2f38b/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 03:04:31 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/91befdd7-abcc-4c6f-976d-dc761af8b554/hendricksonweldingartisan2.mp3" length="28021536" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:57</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy and WAC&apos;s Gary Hendrickson discuss the challenges of acquiring graffiti filled surplus property from the City of Detroit, and the extensive training the Welding Artisan Center gives to it&apos;s students.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Andrew Goldberg: Bonfires Need Attorneys#14</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Andrew Goldberg: Bonfires Need Attorneys#14</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Goldberg.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Goldberg.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3525627/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
Every business needs an attorney, right? In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras hosts Detroit-based attorney Andrew Goldberg who has extensive experience working with entrepreneurs and small business owners. Romy and Goldberg discuss the qualities of the social impact investor and why so many are inspired by the resurgence of downtown Detroit. Romy also discusses how much work needs to be done in the outlying neighborhoods and communities of the Motor City, and why social enterprise businesses are trying to gain traction there.</p>
<p>Please tell a friend about <a href="http://In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras hosts Detroit-based attorney Andrew Goldberg who has extensive experience working with entrepreneurs and small business owners. Romy and Andy discuss the qualities of the social impact investor and why so many are inspired by the resurgence of downtown Detroit. Romy also discusses how much work needs to be done in the outlying neighborhoods and communities of the Motor City, and why social enterprise businesses are trying to gain traction there. Please tell a friend about www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global " target="_blank">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a> and <a href="http://gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Romy Gingras of Gingras Global </a></p>
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Every business needs an attorney, right? In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras hosts Detroit-based attorney Andrew Goldberg who has extensive experience working with entrepreneurs and small business owners. Romy and Goldberg discuss the qualities of the social impact investor and why so many are inspired by the resurgence of downtown Detroit. Romy also discusses how much work needs to be done in the outlying neighborhoods and communities of the Motor City, and why social enterprise businesses are trying to gain traction there.</p>
<p>Please tell a friend about <a href="http://In this episode of Bonfires of Social Enterprise Romy Gingras hosts Detroit-based attorney Andrew Goldberg who has extensive experience working with entrepreneurs and small business owners. Romy and Andy discuss the qualities of the social impact investor and why so many are inspired by the resurgence of downtown Detroit. Romy also discusses how much work needs to be done in the outlying neighborhoods and communities of the Motor City, and why social enterprise businesses are trying to gain traction there. Please tell a friend about www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com and Romy Gingras of Gingras Global " target="_blank">www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a> and <a href="http://gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">Romy Gingras of Gingras Global </a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/goldberg-bonfires-need-attorneys]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=91</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/f7c2f03c-88d4-4ab4-9591-c28dbe71fa79/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 23:00:14 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4698de1d-2ecd-4b84-961a-fdf8a98e15b5/andygoldbergbonfires.mp3" length="30022690" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:51</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Detroit attorney Andrew J. Goldberg and Romy Gingras, host of the Bonfires of Social Enterprise talk about the traits of some investors in Detroit.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Impact3 Investment Co Talks With Romy in Detroit#13</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Impact3 Investment Co Talks With Romy in Detroit#13</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Impact-T3.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3524323/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, known throughout the Social Enterprise scene as &#8220;The Bonfire Lady&#8221; hosts Jeff Petherick, an impact investor, and partner of the Impact3 Investment Group. Learn more about Patherick&#8217;s mission to share Time, Treasure and Talent with Detroit entrepreneurs who are moving into communities that are hardest hit by the Motor City&#8217;s bankruptcy. Visit <a title="The Bonfires of Social Enterprise" href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/" target="_blank">bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a> for more stories and please share the link.</p>
<p>Romy and Jeff talk about the creation of Impact3s genesis and we find out more about Petherick&#8217;s background in the world of finance. For more information about Impact3 please go to the following URL: <a href="http://impactt3.strikingly.com/">http://impactt3.strikingly.com/</a></p>
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<p>Romy Gingras of Gingras Global, known throughout the Social Enterprise scene as &#8220;The Bonfire Lady&#8221; hosts Jeff Petherick, an impact investor, and partner of the Impact3 Investment Group. Learn more about Patherick&#8217;s mission to share Time, Treasure and Talent with Detroit entrepreneurs who are moving into communities that are hardest hit by the Motor City&#8217;s bankruptcy. Visit <a title="The Bonfires of Social Enterprise" href="http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/" target="_blank">bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a> for more stories and please share the link.</p>
<p>Romy and Jeff talk about the creation of Impact3s genesis and we find out more about Petherick&#8217;s background in the world of finance. For more information about Impact3 please go to the following URL: <a href="http://impactt3.strikingly.com/">http://impactt3.strikingly.com/</a></p>
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<strong>Jay Rayford's Enthusiastic About His Social Enterprise Being Housed in Shipping Containers in Corktow</strong>n</code></p>
<p>Another in a series of great podcasts from <strong>Romy Gingras of Gingras Global</strong> that you can find at<a href="www.thebonfiresofsocialenterprise.com" target="_blank"> www.thebonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a>. Romy hears the story of a collaboration between a pop-up sushi caterer, called Social-Sushi, and the social networks that they created, with the goal of reinvigorating Detroit as it recovers from that city&#8217;s bankruptcy. A group of Lawrence Tech University and Western International High School students picked SocialSushi-Detroit to house, in part of its project to find inventive ways to reuse abandoned shipping containters, to house, the brick and mortar headquarter of this wandering-networking-bistro.</p>
<p>Social Sushi will be based near the historic, and currently, under utilized Roosevelt Park,in the Corktown section of Detroit. While the internal space of the restaurant is expected to be able to seat just 35, Rayford says that the city is allowing the surrounding outdoor area to be used for social functions that feature his world famous sushi, and it&#8217;s special dipping sauce. Thank you Jay Raford for sharing your enthusiasm for Detroit.</p>
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<strong>Jay Rayford's Enthusiastic About His Social Enterprise Being Housed in Shipping Containers in Corktow</strong>n</code></p>
<p>Another in a series of great podcasts from <strong>Romy Gingras of Gingras Global</strong> that you can find at<a href="www.thebonfiresofsocialenterprise.com" target="_blank"> www.thebonfiresofsocialenterprise.com</a>. Romy hears the story of a collaboration between a pop-up sushi caterer, called Social-Sushi, and the social networks that they created, with the goal of reinvigorating Detroit as it recovers from that city&#8217;s bankruptcy. A group of Lawrence Tech University and Western International High School students picked SocialSushi-Detroit to house, in part of its project to find inventive ways to reuse abandoned shipping containters, to house, the brick and mortar headquarter of this wandering-networking-bistro.</p>
<p>Social Sushi will be based near the historic, and currently, under utilized Roosevelt Park,in the Corktown section of Detroit. While the internal space of the restaurant is expected to be able to seat just 35, Rayford says that the city is allowing the surrounding outdoor area to be used for social functions that feature his world famous sushi, and it&#8217;s special dipping sauce. Thank you Jay Raford for sharing your enthusiasm for Detroit.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/social-sushi-detroit-talks-with-bonfires-of-social-enterprise]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=79</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1a50b238-9b5a-46a6-9f5c-cee0a7e2f36f/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:30:51 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/36199a21-95e1-455d-9029-9ab8506c1658/socialsushibonifres.mp3" length="25177552" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>17:29</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy Gingras talks with Jay Rayford about Social-Sushi, a pop-up caterer that brought a taste for sushi to Detroit&apos;s up and comers who are working to rebuild neighborhoods and communities in Detroit.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: His Hands Auto Care#11</title><itunes:title>Season 1: His Hands Auto Care#11</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/HisHands2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3498516/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe><br />
Romy Gingras visits this unique garage in Midland, Michigan that is one of the ministries of the Messiah Church. She talks about the social impact of discounted auto service, and finding affordable vehicles for low-income community members. Romy surprises the managers of this garage by telling them that they are, indeed, a Social Enterprise business. <a href="http://hishandsautocare.com" target="_blank"> Visit His Hands Auto Care on the web here.</a></p>
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Romy Gingras visits this unique garage in Midland, Michigan that is one of the ministries of the Messiah Church. She talks about the social impact of discounted auto service, and finding affordable vehicles for low-income community members. Romy surprises the managers of this garage by telling them that they are, indeed, a Social Enterprise business. <a href="http://hishandsautocare.com" target="_blank"> Visit His Hands Auto Care on the web here.</a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/his-hands-auto-care]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=68</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/eb35b0c0-81d8-4d07-b05e-b938ca2ad902/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:33:06 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b09b4af9-f4de-487b-a52b-c895b1e8c85d/hishandsauto.mp3" length="24728858" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>25:45</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Romy Gingras visits this unique garage in Midland, Michigan that is one of the ministries of the Messiah Church. She talks about the social impact of discounted auto service, and finding affordable vehicles for low-income community members. Romy surprises the managers of this garage by telling them that they are, indeed, a Social Enterprise business.…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Nate Griswold-Inhabitect#10</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Nate Griswold-Inhabitect#10</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Inhabitect.png"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3455837/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
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<li>Traverse City based Nate Griswold, owner of Inhabitect builds green roofs.Romy Gingras visited with Nate in a re-purposed Traverse City landmark to learn more social enterprise aspects of his small business. Social Enterprise is the most rapidly growing business sector in the United States. They are known for employing people who typically have a hard time finding work; educational programs; training programs; reinvesting profits within their communities; adding a new employer base to their regions and fulfilling other social needs.</li>
<li>Whether you are looking to make your high rise LEED certified, or your home more energy efficient, you&#8217;ll want to know more about vegetation roofing ideas. If you&#8217;re a small business owner looking for an inspiring story about doing what you love, in a place you love, you&#8217;ll want to hear how Nate, who had an established green architect career in Chicago, made the brave move back to his hometown, Traverse City, Michigan. Find out more at <a title="Inhabitect's Website " href="http://inhabitect.com/" target="_blank">http://inhabitect.com/</a> You&#8217;ll discover how Griswold&#8217;s business is sustainable, not only for Michigan, but, for the environment.</li>
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<li>Traverse City based Nate Griswold, owner of Inhabitect builds green roofs.Romy Gingras visited with Nate in a re-purposed Traverse City landmark to learn more social enterprise aspects of his small business. Social Enterprise is the most rapidly growing business sector in the United States. They are known for employing people who typically have a hard time finding work; educational programs; training programs; reinvesting profits within their communities; adding a new employer base to their regions and fulfilling other social needs.</li>
<li>Whether you are looking to make your high rise LEED certified, or your home more energy efficient, you&#8217;ll want to know more about vegetation roofing ideas. If you&#8217;re a small business owner looking for an inspiring story about doing what you love, in a place you love, you&#8217;ll want to hear how Nate, who had an established green architect career in Chicago, made the brave move back to his hometown, Traverse City, Michigan. Find out more at <a title="Inhabitect's Website " href="http://inhabitect.com/" target="_blank">http://inhabitect.com/</a> You&#8217;ll discover how Griswold&#8217;s business is sustainable, not only for Michigan, but, for the environment.</li>
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]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/nate-griswold-inhabitect]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=57</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/5809fe92-e621-4ec7-9a54-fe67e55c0152/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:11:52 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/21a6861a-1184-4d9c-b79a-80b51ab751b7/nategriswold.mp3" length="29277480" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>20:20</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Traverse City based Nate Griswold, owner of Inhabitect builds green roofs.Romy Gingras visited with Nate in a re-purposed Traverse City landmark to learn more social enterprise aspects of his small business. Social Enterprise is the most rapidly growing business sector in the United States. They are known for employing people who typically have a hard…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Gold Cash Gold Restaurant in Detroit#9</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Gold Cash Gold Restaurant in Detroit#9</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Gold Cash Gold Restarantula of Detroit</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/GoldCashGold2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3447863/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>Romy shares a great discussion with Chef Josh Stockton and one of the owner/partners April Boyle of Gold Cash Gold, a Detroit restaurant that opened up in what was a vacant pawn shop in Detroit&#8217;s Corktown neighborhood.</p>
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<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/GoldCashGold2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3447863/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>Romy shares a great discussion with Chef Josh Stockton and one of the owner/partners April Boyle of Gold Cash Gold, a Detroit restaurant that opened up in what was a vacant pawn shop in Detroit&#8217;s Corktown neighborhood.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/goldcashgold-restaurant]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=53</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/60d0c7af-234c-4b5e-bf46-c66574409c30/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:57:57 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/7fe7d22f-43d2-481b-b000-f3030750f74d/goldcashgoldfinal.mp3" length="23253997" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>24:13</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>community investing, renovation of a famous pawn shop into a great restaurant</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Vehicle City Tacos – Part 2#8</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Vehicle City Tacos – Part 2#8</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/VCityTacos2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3427184/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe>In part two of Romy&#8217;s talk with Vehicle City Tacos she finds out what gourmet dishes are being dispensed out of the food truck, in Flint, Michigan. VCT is owned by Flint enthusiasts who are getting people outdoors, away from their bar stools and TV sets and couches, and feeding them great, locally sourced food.</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/VCityTacos2.jpg"></a><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3427184/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe>In part two of Romy&#8217;s talk with Vehicle City Tacos she finds out what gourmet dishes are being dispensed out of the food truck, in Flint, Michigan. VCT is owned by Flint enthusiasts who are getting people outdoors, away from their bar stools and TV sets and couches, and feeding them great, locally sourced food.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/vehicle-city-tacos-part-2]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=44</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a4a6804a-9e35-454c-850f-edfb21c9cbff/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2015 20:34:58 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/ec00ce6a-efbb-41b5-a80e-80475410d4a1/8vehiclecitytacospart2.mp3" length="14282000" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>14:28</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>In part two of Romy’s talk with Vehicle City Tacos she finds out what gourmet dishes are being dispensed out of the food truck, in Flint, Michigan. VCT is owned by Flint enthusiasts who are getting people outdoors, away from their bar stools and TV sets and couches, and feeding them great, locally sourced food.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Welding Artisan Center of Detroit #7</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Welding Artisan Center of Detroit #7</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h4 style="text-align: center;">Welding Artisan Center Interview with Gary Hendrickson</h4>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3407592/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>An introduction to the social enterprise by co-founder Gary Hendrickson. Businessman Gary Hendrickson and partner, Don Martin, decided to open up a welding training certification center in Detroit to find a way to help the at-risk urban youth gain skilled trade certifications. Learn about the center and gallery that will cater to hobbyists and create a welding pool of talent to support the local infrastructure growth of Detroit.</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4 style="text-align: center;">Welding Artisan Center Interview with Gary Hendrickson</h4>
<p><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3407592/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<p>An introduction to the social enterprise by co-founder Gary Hendrickson. Businessman Gary Hendrickson and partner, Don Martin, decided to open up a welding training certification center in Detroit to find a way to help the at-risk urban youth gain skilled trade certifications. Learn about the center and gallery that will cater to hobbyists and create a welding pool of talent to support the local infrastructure growth of Detroit.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/welding-artisan-center-interview-with-gary-hendrickson]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=33</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d4cb0773-0c8d-4e82-9c4d-2a349d9ba4d6/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:59:56 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/c13d6190-41b3-464d-bbbc-f292a3e4abbe/7weldingartisancenterinterviewwithgaryhendricksonpart1.mp3" length="15429799" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>15:40</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Welding Artisan Center Interview with Gary Hendrickson An introduction to the social enterprise by co-founder Gary Hendrickson. Businessman Gary Hendrickson and partner, Don Martin, decided to open up a welding training certification center in Detroit to find a way to help the at-risk urban youth gain skilled trade certifications. Learn about the center and gallery…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Vehicle City Tacos – Part 1#6</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Vehicle City Tacos – Part 1#6</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Vehicle City Tacos &#8211; Part 1</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3396329/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the founder about his hip and energetic food truck renovating the community of Flint, Michigan. Dan discusses the origin of the idea and business model. This is part one of a two part introduction.</p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Vehicle City Tacos &#8211; Part 1</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3396329/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the founder about his hip and energetic food truck renovating the community of Flint, Michigan. Dan discusses the origin of the idea and business model. This is part one of a two part introduction.</p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/vehicle-city-tacos-part-1]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=20</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/251ae839-84a0-4aa0-a55f-771a54dbad99/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 04:30:47 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8494c5f8-1206-4ab0-86fa-7642b57737a3/6vehiclecitytacospart1.mp3" length="10375102" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:24</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Vehicle City Tacos – Part 1 An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the founder about his hip and energetic food truck renovating the community of Flint, Michigan. Dan discusses the origin of the idea and business model. This is part one of a two part introduction.</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Bonfires of Social Enterprise Intro: Romy Gingras#5</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Bonfires of Social Enterprise Intro: Romy Gingras#5</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Bonfires of Social Enterprise Intro: Romy Gingras</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381494/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Arial; color: #1a1a1a;">Storytelling by Romy Gingras about the Social Enterprise activity in Detroit and broader Michigan.<br />
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Romy Gingras, Managing Partner, of Gingras Global, LLC and Gingras Global Groups, L3C has been in the financial industry since 1988 and has a passion for efficient, profitable, social enterprises and the impact investors who support them. Listen in on the interesting interviews with some of the burgeoning social entrepreneurs. During many of the interviews Romy takes the time to highlight a concept or note from the field specific to social enterprise. Learn about all of the different elements of a social enterprise and connect to the front lines in this great show.</span> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Visit <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> for more information.</span></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Bonfires of Social Enterprise Intro: Romy Gingras</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381494/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Arial; color: #1a1a1a;">Storytelling by Romy Gingras about the Social Enterprise activity in Detroit and broader Michigan.<br />
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Romy Gingras, Managing Partner, of Gingras Global, LLC and Gingras Global Groups, L3C has been in the financial industry since 1988 and has a passion for efficient, profitable, social enterprises and the impact investors who support them. Listen in on the interesting interviews with some of the burgeoning social entrepreneurs. During many of the interviews Romy takes the time to highlight a concept or note from the field specific to social enterprise. Learn about all of the different elements of a social enterprise and connect to the front lines in this great show.</span> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Visit <a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> for more information.</span></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/bonfires-of-social-enterprise-intro-romy-gingras]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=16</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/22c93aa4-add0-4f9d-83f8-f6800efc8c49/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:58:31 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/6b5a1b3e-b46f-4701-bd25-2c4a7125ad31/1whatisthebonfiresofsocialenterprise.mp3" length="12070501" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Bonfires of Social Enterprise Intro: Romy Gingras Storytelling by Romy Gingras about the Social Enterprise activity in Detroit and broader Michigan. Romy Gingras, Managing Partner, of Gingras Global, LLC and Gingras Global Groups, L3C has been in the financial industry since 1988 and has a passion for efficient, profitable, social enterprises and the impact investors…</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1- Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, L3C  Detroit #1</title><itunes:title>Season 1- Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, L3C  Detroit #1</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RebellNell2.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Interview with Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, L3C</strong></h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381514/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Calibri;">An introduction to the social enterprise making jewelry from the fallen graffiti of Detroit and employing women from the homeless shelter. Learn how Amy began her business along with her grand plans to help homeless women learn the retail business and launch into their own endeavors.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></span></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RebellNell2.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Interview with Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, L3C</strong></h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381514/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Calibri;">An introduction to the social enterprise making jewelry from the fallen graffiti of Detroit and employing women from the homeless shelter. Learn how Amy began her business along with her grand plans to help homeless women learn the retail business and launch into their own endeavors.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></span></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/interview-with-amy-peterson-of-rebel-nell-l3c-jan-15-2015]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=14</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/00ecd9d4-5984-4aeb-84d6-ff28b1ab3930/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:55:21 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/501efb39-f77d-4400-a307-ce7ef90bf590/2interviewwithamypetersonofrebelnelll3c.mp3" length="12776705" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:54</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Interview with Amy Peterson of Rebel Nell, L3C An introduction to the social enterprise making jewelry from the fallen graffiti of Detroit and employing women from the homeless shelter. Learn how Amy began her business along with her grand plans to help homeless women learn the retail business and launch into their own endeavors. www.gingrasglobal.com</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1- Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms of Detroit #4</title><itunes:title>Season 1- Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms of Detroit #4</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/artesian_logo.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms of Detroit</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381537/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise by farmer founder, Jeff Adams.  The interview explores the rationale of the hydroponics business and the social impact of hiring within the local neighborhood of Brightmoor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/artesian_logo.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms of Detroit</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381537/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise by farmer founder, Jeff Adams.  The interview explores the rationale of the hydroponics business and the social impact of hiring within the local neighborhood of Brightmoor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/interview-with-jeff-adams-of-artesian-farms-of-detroit]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=12</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/89138106-5a19-4129-b73b-7ea76d86709c/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:42:03 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4e60f42f-4d15-4d0a-b5c3-282a72c04b33/5interviewwithjeffadamsofartesianfarmsofdetroit.mp3" length="12343753" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>12:27</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Interview with Jeff Adams of Artesian Farms of Detroit An introduction to the social enterprise by farmer founder, Jeff Adams.  The interview explores the rationale of the hydroponics business and the social impact of hiring within the local neighborhood of Brightmoor. www.gingrasglobal.com</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1: Josh York of York Project, LLC#3</title><itunes:title>Season 1: Josh York of York Project, LLC#3</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/YorkProject.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/YorkProject.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with founder Josh York of York Project, LLC</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381531/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the MSU junior on his hat making business and heart for the homeless. Josh explains his humble beginnings and growth plans to hire the homeless. Selling hats around the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/YorkProject.jpg"></a><a href="http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/YorkProject.jpg"></a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with founder Josh York of York Project, LLC</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381531/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center>An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the MSU junior on his hat making business and heart for the homeless. Josh explains his humble beginnings and growth plans to hire the homeless. Selling hats around the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com">www.gingrasglobal.com</a></p>
]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[http://bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/interview-with-founder-josh-york-of-york-project-llc-jan-15-2015]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.bonfiresofsocialenterprise.com/?p=9</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/68e12482-cd8e-40c7-899d-dbaa497aa569/podcast-art-cover.jpg"/><dc:creator><![CDATA[Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:37:03 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/4c7e5a9d-d988-43c7-97ce-d4d66a44cb84/4interviewwithfounderjoshyorkofyorkprojectllc.mp3" length="10354818" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>10:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:summary>Interview with founder Josh York of York Project, LLC An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the MSU junior on his hat making business and heart for the homeless. Josh explains his humble beginnings and growth plans to hire the homeless. Selling hats around the world. www.gingrasglobal.com</itunes:summary><itunes:author>Romy Kochan | Gingras Global | Social Enterprise | Detroit Entrepreneurs</itunes:author></item><item><title>Season 1- Christian Birky of Lazlo, LLC  Detroit #2</title><itunes:title>Season 1- Christian Birky of Lazlo, LLC  Detroit #2</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with Founder Christian Birky of Lazlo, LLC</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381520/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Calibri;">An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the founder, designer, model, and Princeton grad, Christian Birky. Hear the story about the making of a high end men’s T-shirt and how he plans to bring fashion manufacturing to Detroit and reduce the mistreatment of human beings in sweatshops around the world. Learn the connection with returning men from the prison systems.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.gingrasglobal.com" target="_blank">www.gingrasglobal.com</a> </span></p>
]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">Interview with Founder Christian Birky of Lazlo, LLC</h3>
<p><center><iframe style="border: none;" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/3381520/height/70/width/640/theme/standard/direction/no/autoplay/no/autonext/no/thumbnail/no/preload/no/no_addthis/no/" width="640" height="70" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></center><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family: Calibri;">An introduction to the social enterprise and interview with the founder, designer, model, and Princeton grad, Christian Birky. Hear the story about the making of a high end men’s T-shirt and how he plans to bring fashion manufacturing to Detroit and reduce the mistreatment of human beings in sweatshops around the world. Learn the connection with returning men from the prison systems.</span></span></p>
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