<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/then-now-with-babbatu/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Then & Now with Babatúndé and Leonie Aléshé]]></title><podcast:guid>c78f1b1a-9990-52d2-8fc7-439e47d8cef2</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 01:00:23 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 We Are L17 & Global]]></copyright><managingEditor>We Are L17 &amp; Global</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[TV’s stand up comedian Babatunde Aléshé and his wife Leonie discuss parenting a young family. The pair reminisce about their childhoods and compare to their experiences as parents. Was life better way back when, or is modern life much better? Listen now to find out, on Global Player. Go to globalplayer.com or search for Global Player on your app store.]]></itunes:summary><image><url>https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg</url><title>Then &amp; Now with Babatúndé and Leonie Aléshé</title><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link></image><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><itunes:owner><itunes:name>We Are L17 &amp; Global</itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author>We Are L17 &amp; Global</itunes:author><description>TV’s stand up comedian Babatunde Aléshé and his wife Leonie discuss parenting a young family. The pair reminisce about their childhoods and compare to their experiences as parents. 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We'll see you guys soon.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">c505c37b-b669-4599-a971-da77b9dbc8eb</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c505c37b-b669-4599-a971-da77b9dbc8eb.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=c505c37b-b669-4599-a971-da77b9dbc8eb" length="43183230" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>44:42</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>78</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>78</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>KIDS CAN HUMBLE YOU!</title><itunes:title>KIDS CAN HUMBLE YOU!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Nothing humbles you like becoming a parent. </p><p>On this episode, Baba and Leonie speak on the most humbling moments since having kids and what having kids does to your ego and identity.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing humbles you like becoming a parent. </p><p>On this episode, Baba and Leonie speak on the most humbling moments since having kids and what having kids does to your ego and identity.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">19fa5349-a20a-4253-ad29-468338ba354d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/19fa5349-a20a-4253-ad29-468338ba354d.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=19fa5349-a20a-4253-ad29-468338ba354d" length="40697855" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:08</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>77</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>77</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>KIDS ARE TOO CAREFUL NOWADAYS!!</title><itunes:title>KIDS ARE TOO CAREFUL NOWADAYS!!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>When was the last time you saw a kid with a cast on?</p><p>Is the adventurous trait been lost in kids these days. 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With the conversation of the Beckhams. They speak about the issues that are faced when parents dont get along with the relationships in the family.</p><p>We're also given a few issues so stay tuned.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On todays episode, Baba and Leonie go into family drama. With the conversation of the Beckhams. 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Hope you had a wonderful welcoming into the new year!</p><p>We're back and we're talking about how we spent our lil break with the kids. We also are back with some confessions and dilemmas so stay tuned!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year Guys! Hope you had a wonderful welcoming into the new year!</p><p>We're back and we're talking about how we spent our lil break with the kids. We also are back with some confessions and dilemmas so stay tuned!</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">55d72584-ff07-42e2-b31c-6cba267cff3b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/55d72584-ff07-42e2-b31c-6cba267cff3b.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=55d72584-ff07-42e2-b31c-6cba267cff3b" length="49440158" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:10</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>70</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>12 DAYS OF PARENTING</title><itunes:title>12 DAYS OF PARENTING</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode. 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Theres so many to choose from we couldnt decide! Let us know if you have any confessions that you want to speak on and we'll bring it up on the pod.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys liked the confessions so much we did another episode. Theres so many to choose from we couldnt decide! 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With hilarious stories and heartfelt reflections, they unpack why the teen years feel like “war at home” and how parents can survive the chaos with love, humour, and perspective.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Then and Now</em>, Leonie and Baba tackle the raw truth of raising teenagers — from backchat and slammed doors to moments that test every ounce of patience. With hilarious stories and heartfelt reflections, they unpack why the teen years feel like “war at home” and how parents can survive the chaos with love, humour, and perspective.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1a10adb2-6652-480f-9e29-2f9f6c92f243</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1a10adb2-6652-480f-9e29-2f9f6c92f243.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=1a10adb2-6652-480f-9e29-2f9f6c92f243" length="48384420" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>50:23</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>52</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>PARENTING INFO OVERLOAD</title><itunes:title>PARENTING INFO OVERLOAD</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Then and Now</em>, Leoni and Baba dive into the chaos of parenting in the age of <strong>information overload</strong>. From old-school wisdom passed down by grandparents to modern-day Google searches, they explore whether knowing too much actually makes parenting harder. Expect honesty, laughter, and real talk about how parents can strike a balance between tradition, tech, and trusting themselves.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>Then and Now</em>, Leoni and Baba dive into the chaos of parenting in the age of <strong>information overload</strong>. From old-school wisdom passed down by grandparents to modern-day Google searches, they explore whether knowing too much actually makes parenting harder. Expect honesty, laughter, and real talk about how parents can strike a balance between tradition, tech, and trusting themselves.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">89fce126-e19a-4c21-adb3-2beab39882ce</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/89fce126-e19a-4c21-adb3-2beab39882ce.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=89fce126-e19a-4c21-adb3-2beab39882ce" length="37120244" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>38:39</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>51</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>PARENTING DILEMMAS</title><itunes:title>PARENTING DILEMMAS</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Then and Now, Baba and Leonie discuss some Parenting Dilemmas. From in-laws discipline on children and what would you do if your child acts up on the street.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Then and Now, Baba and Leonie discuss some Parenting Dilemmas. From in-laws discipline on children and what would you do if your child acts up on the street.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">222b1018-d58f-4fed-bd30-1933513de35a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/222b1018-d58f-4fed-bd30-1933513de35a.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=222b1018-d58f-4fed-bd30-1933513de35a" length="41150999" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>42:36</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>50</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>PARENTING METHODS PART TWO</title><itunes:title>PARENTING METHODS PART TWO</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <em>Then and Now Podcast</em>, Leonie and Babatunde dive into the evolving world of parenting — from feral summers and gentle parenting to AI-influenced trends like FAFO and Type C parenting. With humour, honesty, and a whole lot of real talk, they unpack the pressures, myths, and everyday hilarity of raising kids in today’s world. Whether you’re a free-flowing dolphin parent or a no-nonsense tiger, this one’s for every caregiver just trying to figure it out.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the <em>Then and Now Podcast</em>, Leonie and Babatunde dive into the evolving world of parenting — from feral summers and gentle parenting to AI-influenced trends like FAFO and Type C parenting. With humour, honesty, and a whole lot of real talk, they unpack the pressures, myths, and everyday hilarity of raising kids in today’s world. Whether you’re a free-flowing dolphin parent or a no-nonsense tiger, this one’s for every caregiver just trying to figure it out.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">bf419a18-6999-47d4-a51f-682a0b3d154d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/bf419a18-6999-47d4-a51f-682a0b3d154d.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=bf419a18-6999-47d4-a51f-682a0b3d154d" length="46426013" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:53</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>49</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Highs and Lows of Parenting</title><itunes:title>The Highs and Lows of Parenting</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Leonie and Baba open up about the raw, joyful, and emotional journey of parenthood. From sleepless nights and fertility struggles to laughter-filled moments and teaching kids about identity, this heartfelt episode is for every parent in the trenches — and every listener who wants to understand the beauty and weight of raising children.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonie and Baba open up about the raw, joyful, and emotional journey of parenthood. From sleepless nights and fertility struggles to laughter-filled moments and teaching kids about identity, this heartfelt episode is for every parent in the trenches — and every listener who wants to understand the beauty and weight of raising children.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">9994d19d-4385-421a-aac6-a9dc27bb2338</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9994d19d-4385-421a-aac6-a9dc27bb2338.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=9994d19d-4385-421a-aac6-a9dc27bb2338" length="33422569" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>34:49</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>48</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>SUMMER HOLIDAYS</title><itunes:title>SUMMER HOLIDAYS</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Leonie and Baba compare summer holidays then vs now in this fun and relatable episode. From wild childhood memories and playing out all day to today’s screen-obsessed kids, expensive camps, and parenting guilt, they unpack it all. Expect laughs, nostalgia, and honest takes on juggling work, fun, and family. Whether you’re a free-range kid at heart or a modern parent just trying to survive the holidays, this is the ultimate summer holiday survival guide.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonie and Baba compare summer holidays then vs now in this fun and relatable episode. From wild childhood memories and playing out all day to today’s screen-obsessed kids, expensive camps, and parenting guilt, they unpack it all. Expect laughs, nostalgia, and honest takes on juggling work, fun, and family. Whether you’re a free-range kid at heart or a modern parent just trying to survive the holidays, this is the ultimate summer holiday survival guide.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">b4dabc57-2b77-4a1e-bece-12d476513d0d</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b4dabc57-2b77-4a1e-bece-12d476513d0d.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=b4dabc57-2b77-4a1e-bece-12d476513d0d" length="50033290" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:06</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>47</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Maternity and Paternity Problems</title><itunes:title>Maternity and Paternity Problems</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and hilarious episode of the <em>Then and Now</em> podcast. Leonie and Baba tackle a topic they’ve never fully explored before: <strong>maternity and paternity leave</strong>, both from a personal and cultural lens. The conversation dives deep into:</p><ul><li>🍼 <strong>How family and community supported childcare “back in the day”</strong></li><li>🧾 The <strong>realities of statutory maternity and paternity leave in the UK</strong></li><li>🔄 The <strong>emotional and financial pressures</strong> that parents face returning to work too early</li><li>👶🏾 The <strong>disparities between countries</strong> like Sweden, Japan, the USA, and the UK in parental leave policy</li><li>💬 A candid and funny look at <strong>fatherhood, responsibilities, and bonding time</strong></li><li>🧠 Mental health and the cultural stigma around fathers taking leave</li><li>💔 Why many parents feel unsupported by the system – and why that might be leading to fewer children</li></ul><br/><p>Throughout, Leonie and Baba share personal stories – from growing up in multigenerational households to wild moments like a four-year-old Bubba sneaking out to find his mum – and open up about how different things were when they had their son vs their daughter.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this heartfelt and hilarious episode of the <em>Then and Now</em> podcast. Leonie and Baba tackle a topic they’ve never fully explored before: <strong>maternity and paternity leave</strong>, both from a personal and cultural lens. The conversation dives deep into:</p><ul><li>🍼 <strong>How family and community supported childcare “back in the day”</strong></li><li>🧾 The <strong>realities of statutory maternity and paternity leave in the UK</strong></li><li>🔄 The <strong>emotional and financial pressures</strong> that parents face returning to work too early</li><li>👶🏾 The <strong>disparities between countries</strong> like Sweden, Japan, the USA, and the UK in parental leave policy</li><li>💬 A candid and funny look at <strong>fatherhood, responsibilities, and bonding time</strong></li><li>🧠 Mental health and the cultural stigma around fathers taking leave</li><li>💔 Why many parents feel unsupported by the system – and why that might be leading to fewer children</li></ul><br/><p>Throughout, Leonie and Baba share personal stories – from growing up in multigenerational households to wild moments like a four-year-old Bubba sneaking out to find his mum – and open up about how different things were when they had their son vs their daughter.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1279d2bd-ba27-4ba8-b82e-4b68acbd0f5a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/1279d2bd-ba27-4ba8-b82e-4b68acbd0f5a.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=1279d2bd-ba27-4ba8-b82e-4b68acbd0f5a" length="54963583" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>57:14</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>46</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>The Annoying Things People Say to Parents</title><itunes:title>The Annoying Things People Say to Parents</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this hilarious and unfiltered episode of&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie tackle the often unsolicited, frequently irritating, and occasionally outrageous things people say to parents. From “cherish every moment” to “when’s the next baby?” – the Aleshes break down the pressures, toxic positivity, and blunt comments that come from strangers, family, and even friends.</p><p>They share their personal experiences as parents of two, explore the reality behind social media myths, and open up about how they handle advice, judgment, and that constant “outside noise.” It’s raw, relatable, and ridiculously funny – perfect for anyone who’s ever been on the receiving end of questionable parenting commentary.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this hilarious and unfiltered episode of&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie tackle the often unsolicited, frequently irritating, and occasionally outrageous things people say to parents. From “cherish every moment” to “when’s the next baby?” – the Aleshes break down the pressures, toxic positivity, and blunt comments that come from strangers, family, and even friends.</p><p>They share their personal experiences as parents of two, explore the reality behind social media myths, and open up about how they handle advice, judgment, and that constant “outside noise.” It’s raw, relatable, and ridiculously funny – perfect for anyone who’s ever been on the receiving end of questionable parenting commentary.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">01b4f720-0476-4c5e-83c0-717b0b972615</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/01b4f720-0476-4c5e-83c0-717b0b972615.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=01b4f720-0476-4c5e-83c0-717b0b972615" length="45290520" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:11</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>45</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Question Time!</title><itunes:title>Question Time!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie dive into the hilarious, heartfelt, and often awkward world of parenting’s toughest moments – answering the wild questions kids love to ask. From “Can I say that word?” to “Where do babies come from?” the couple share honest conversations, cultural contrasts, and laugh-out-loud stories from their own parenting experiences. With their signature humour and warmth, they explore how to navigate language, growing up, faith, and family – all while raising two very curious kids. Whether it’s “lady gardens,” fart etiquette, or the chaos of football fandom, this episode is packed with relatable gems for parents at any stage.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie dive into the hilarious, heartfelt, and often awkward world of parenting’s toughest moments – answering the wild questions kids love to ask. From “Can I say that word?” to “Where do babies come from?” the couple share honest conversations, cultural contrasts, and laugh-out-loud stories from their own parenting experiences. With their signature humour and warmth, they explore how to navigate language, growing up, faith, and family – all while raising two very curious kids. Whether it’s “lady gardens,” fart etiquette, or the chaos of football fandom, this episode is packed with relatable gems for parents at any stage.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">25469f5e-ebd4-467f-a27f-6825a0662e4a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/25469f5e-ebd4-467f-a27f-6825a0662e4a.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=25469f5e-ebd4-467f-a27f-6825a0662e4a" length="40260381" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>41:56</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>44</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>New Parenting Social Trends</title><itunes:title>New Parenting Social Trends</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie Aleshe dive into the wild world of modern parenting trends. From baby raves and nesting parties to house-moving “parties” and child-friendly beach clubs, they explore how millennial and Gen Z parents are redefining family fun. Expect big laughs as the couple weigh in on strobe lights for toddlers, assembling baby furniture with friends, and whether a DJ-less house move really counts as a party. As always, they share personal stories, sharp observations, and plenty of playful banter — all wrapped in a heartfelt reminder of how vital community is in parenting today.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, Babatunde and Leonie Aleshe dive into the wild world of modern parenting trends. From baby raves and nesting parties to house-moving “parties” and child-friendly beach clubs, they explore how millennial and Gen Z parents are redefining family fun. Expect big laughs as the couple weigh in on strobe lights for toddlers, assembling baby furniture with friends, and whether a DJ-less house move really counts as a party. As always, they share personal stories, sharp observations, and plenty of playful banter — all wrapped in a heartfelt reminder of how vital community is in parenting today.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">a0437bfd-c598-4fef-b765-0ae132727343</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/a0437bfd-c598-4fef-b765-0ae132727343.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=a0437bfd-c598-4fef-b765-0ae132727343" length="44668596" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>46:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>43</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Fathers Day with Eddie Kadi!</title><itunes:title>Fathers Day with Eddie Kadi!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, we’re celebrating Father’s Day the only way we know how — with laughter, real talk, and a little chaos. Joining Babatunde and Leonie is comedian, broadcaster, &nbsp;<strong>Eddie Kadi</strong>.</p><p>From proud dad moments to parenting flops, cultural clashes to soft parenting debates, nothing is off-limits. Expect hilarious stories, sharp perspectives, and a look at how fatherhood has evolved (and how much has stayed exactly the same).</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you’re a dad, have a dad, or are just trying to survive parenting — this one’s for you.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>, we’re celebrating Father’s Day the only way we know how — with laughter, real talk, and a little chaos. Joining Babatunde and Leonie is comedian, broadcaster, &nbsp;<strong>Eddie Kadi</strong>.</p><p>From proud dad moments to parenting flops, cultural clashes to soft parenting debates, nothing is off-limits. Expect hilarious stories, sharp perspectives, and a look at how fatherhood has evolved (and how much has stayed exactly the same).</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you’re a dad, have a dad, or are just trying to survive parenting — this one’s for you.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">73020142-ceda-44d9-835d-eb5fba58e14b</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/73020142-ceda-44d9-835d-eb5fba58e14b.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=73020142-ceda-44d9-835d-eb5fba58e14b" length="45826343" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>42</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Parenting and Cost of Living</title><itunes:title>Parenting and Cost of Living</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re talking about parenting in the cost of living crisis. 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How do you prepare your kids for a future that’s still being written? What do you pass down when the rulebook keeps changing? And how do you find balance between protecting your children and empowering them?</p><p>It’s a raw, thoughtful conversation about navigating uncertainty, holding onto hope, and parenting with purpose in a world that’s shifting beneath our feet.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this eye-opening episode of&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>,&nbsp;<strong>Babatunde Aléshé</strong>&nbsp;and his wife&nbsp;<strong>Leonie</strong>&nbsp;dive into the modern fears that come with raising children today—from the rise of AI to the realities of climate change.</p><p>With their signature honesty and warmth, they explore what it means to parent in a world that feels unpredictable and fast-moving. How do you prepare your kids for a future that’s still being written? What do you pass down when the rulebook keeps changing? 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With honesty, warmth, and a touch of humour, they explore how parenting isn’t just about the “now,” but about planting seeds for the future.</p><p>A relatable, thought-provoking conversation for any parent trying to do their best—one decision at a time.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of&nbsp;<em>Then and Now</em>,&nbsp;<strong>Babatunde Aléshé</strong>&nbsp;and his wife&nbsp;<strong>Leonie</strong>&nbsp;get real about the everyday (and not-so-everyday) decisions they make as parents—and how those choices shape their children in the long run.</p><p>From cultural values and discipline to emotional well-being, the couple reflect on their own upbringings, what they’ve carried forward, and what they’ve chosen to do differently. 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As they anticipate their children entering their teen years, they reflect on their own experiences growing up, comparing the unique challenges and freedoms they faced. Babatunde and Leonie will share their hopes, fears, and strategies for navigating this pivotal stage of life, while also discussing how the world has changed since their teenage years. Tune in for a candid conversation filled with nostalgia, laughter, and practical advice for embracing the teenage years with grace and understanding!</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Babatunde Aleshe and his wife, Leonie, in this engaging episode of their podcast as they dive into the exciting yet challenging journey of parenting teenagers! As they anticipate their children entering their teen years, they reflect on their own experiences growing up, comparing the unique challenges and freedoms they faced. Babatunde and Leonie will share their hopes, fears, and strategies for navigating this pivotal stage of life, while also discussing how the world has changed since their teenage years. 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The conversation shifts towards practical tips for families looking to incorporate fitness into their daily routines, highlighting the joy found in simple activities like family walks and outdoor games. 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Leonie and Baba reflect on their own childhood experiences, contrasting them with the present where outdoor play has significantly diminished among children. Baba recalls how, as a child, fitness was an inherent part of life, stemming from playing outside, running around with friends, and engaging in spontaneous games. In stark contrast, today’s children often require structured activities to stay active, leading to a discussion about the necessity of intentional family fitness planning.  </p><p>The couple shares personal anecdotes about their son’s journey through various activities, including kickboxing, and how they’ve had to adapt their approach to ensure he remains active. As they discuss the role of technology and the shift in parenting styles over generations, they emphasize the importance of not only encouraging physical activity but also being active participants themselves. 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This episode serves as a reminder that while times change, the essence of family bonding through physical activity remains timeless, encouraging listeners to find creative ways to stay fit together as a family.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The podcast discusses how fitness has changed over generations, emphasizing the shift in children's outdoor play. </li><li> Parents now feel the need to actively involve their children in fitness activities like sports and martial arts. </li><li> Accountability and community support are crucial for maintaining fitness goals as parents. </li><li> The hosts reflect on their own childhoods, highlighting how active lifestyles were commonplace back then. </li><li> Finding time for fitness amidst parenting responsibilities can be challenging but is essential for well-being. </li><li> Incorporating fun and varied activities can help keep fitness enjoyable for the whole family. </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">664d0d73-77e4-434e-bd13-a5df2940672a</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dax.captivate.fm/f29b6812-e1bc-4e83-aafa-86c7ae1ffba0/Then-and-now-episode-22-PT-Session-with-ads-encoded.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=664d0d73-77e4-434e-bd13-a5df2940672a" length="46781033" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>48:44</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>Traveling with Kids: The Chaos and Joy of Family Holidays</title><itunes:title>Traveling with Kids: The Chaos and Joy of Family Holidays</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Navigating the complexities of family travel, Leonie and Baba dive deep into the joys and challenges of parenting on the go. 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Ultimately, they encourage listeners to embrace the chaos of family vacations, reminding them that the memories created, no matter how imperfect, are what truly matter.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> Traveling with kids can be chaotic, but embracing the journey brings joy. </li><li> Planning for a holiday involves balancing children's needs with adult relaxation time. </li><li> Staycations can be just as enjoyable as overseas trips, providing quality family time. </li><li> It's important to manage expectations when traveling, as holidays aren't always perfect. </li><li> Packing for children requires careful consideration to avoid unnecessary stress and weight. </li><li> Using technology, like iPads, can help keep children entertained during travel. </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navigating the complexities of family travel, Leonie and Baba dive deep into the joys and challenges of parenting on the go. 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Ultimately, they encourage listeners to embrace the chaos of family vacations, reminding them that the memories created, no matter how imperfect, are what truly matter.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> Traveling with kids can be chaotic, but embracing the journey brings joy. </li><li> Planning for a holiday involves balancing children's needs with adult relaxation time. </li><li> Staycations can be just as enjoyable as overseas trips, providing quality family time. </li><li> It's important to manage expectations when traveling, as holidays aren't always perfect. </li><li> Packing for children requires careful consideration to avoid unnecessary stress and weight. </li><li> Using technology, like iPads, can help keep children entertained during travel. </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">42bfefae-81e1-4a20-a7f8-8e3ed5c999b2</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dax.captivate.fm/73d97e37-3bc7-4d5a-9445-97f1d7617736/EPISODE-21-with-ad-markers-encoded.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=42bfefae-81e1-4a20-a7f8-8e3ed5c999b2" length="47567979" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>49:33</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>2014 vs 2024: 10 Years of Love, Laughter, and Lessons in Parenting</title><itunes:title>2014 vs 2024: 10 Years of Love, Laughter, and Lessons in Parenting</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This podcast episode delves into the transformative journey of Leonie and Baba as they reflect on their ten years of marriage. 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A central theme is the importance of creating a supportive and nurturing family environment, which has become their primary focus and purpose. Leonie shares her experience of starting a travel business that allowed her to achieve financial independence while being present for their children. 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Ultimately, the conversation underscores the significance of patience and intentionality in personal growth and family dynamics.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The importance of setting realistic resolutions and breaking them down into achievable steps is emphasized. </li><li> Social media can create unrealistic expectations for parenting, but it's important to stay true to oneself. </li><li> Delayed gratification is vital; achieving goals takes time and consistent effort, not instant results. </li><li> In parenting, understanding each child's unique personality is crucial for setting appropriate goals. </li><li> Taking time to reflect and plan for personal growth at the start of the year is essential. </li><li> Ultimately, maintaining a positive mindset while accepting the hard work involved leads to success. </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on the Then and Now podcast, Leonie and Baba delve into the concept of New Year's resolutions and the evolving nature of goal-setting in their lives as parents. 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Ultimately, the conversation underscores the significance of patience and intentionality in personal growth and family dynamics.</p><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> The importance of setting realistic resolutions and breaking them down into achievable steps is emphasized. </li><li> Social media can create unrealistic expectations for parenting, but it's important to stay true to oneself. </li><li> Delayed gratification is vital; achieving goals takes time and consistent effort, not instant results. </li><li> In parenting, understanding each child's unique personality is crucial for setting appropriate goals. </li><li> Taking time to reflect and plan for personal growth at the start of the year is essential. </li><li> Ultimately, maintaining a positive mindset while accepting the hard work involved leads to success. </li></ul><br/>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">f16c82df-11b4-41db-bfcf-8fbc2ab80e85</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dax.captivate.fm/07df0db6-8189-468e-8317-4ee1fd37aeb4/EPISODE-19-THEN-AND-NOW-WITH-AD-MARKERS-encoded.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=f16c82df-11b4-41db-bfcf-8fbc2ab80e85" length="48982353" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>51:01</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>New Year&apos;s Eve: Church Countdown or Family Chill?</title><itunes:title>New Year&apos;s Eve: Church Countdown or Family Chill?</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode of the Then and Now podcast dives into the contrasting experiences of celebrating New Year's Eve, exploring the shift from church gatherings to more relaxed family celebrations. Leonie and Baba reflect on their childhood traditions, specifically how church services shaped their views on the new year, while also grappling with the pressures of modern celebrations influenced by social media. They discuss the importance of genuine connections and the desire for a more peaceful, meaningful way to welcome the new year, rather than succumbing to societal expectations. The conversation highlights the joy of being with family, enjoying good food, and the value of personal reflection as they usher in a fresh start. Ultimately, they emphasize that the best moments are those filled with authenticity, laughter, and gratitude, regardless of how they appear to the outside world.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode of the Then and Now podcast dives into the contrasting experiences of celebrating New Year's Eve, exploring the shift from church gatherings to more relaxed family celebrations. 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The couple explores the contrasts between their childhood experiences and the joys of celebrating the holiday with their own children today. From grand meal preparations and festive family gatherings to the excitement of Christmas presents, they share heartfelt anecdotes that highlight the essence of family togetherness during the holiday season. Leonie reflects on the importance of food, not just as a meal but as a focal point that brings everyone together, while Baba Tunde humorously shares his thoughts on the chaos that often accompanies family gatherings. With a mix of humor and warmth, they invite listeners to connect with their own holiday memories and embrace the joy of the season.</p><p>CHRISTMAS</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Leonie and Baba Tunde as they delve into the nostalgic and vibrant world of Christmas traditions in their latest podcast episode. The couple explores the contrasts between their childhood experiences and the joys of celebrating the holiday with their own children today. From grand meal preparations and festive family gatherings to the excitement of Christmas presents, they share heartfelt anecdotes that highlight the essence of family togetherness during the holiday season. Leonie reflects on the importance of food, not just as a meal but as a focal point that brings everyone together, while Baba Tunde humorously shares his thoughts on the chaos that often accompanies family gatherings. 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They reminisce about the vibrant market culture of their youth, where the sights, sounds, and smells created a rich shopping experience that fostered community connections. The couple discusses the challenges of modern online shopping, particularly how it impacts their children's understanding of money management and product selection. They advocate for more hands-on shopping trips with their kids to instill valuable lessons about quality, value, and personal interaction. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the nostalgia for the past while recognizing the need to adapt and teach the next generation amidst the conveniences of today’s digital age.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonie and Babatunde explore the evolution of shopping experiences from their childhood to the present day, emphasizing the importance of in-person shopping for teaching children essential life skills. 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How they dress now compared to how kids and young adults dress now. </p><p>Back then, people tailored their own clothes,How will that impact their son's fashion choices moving forwards. </p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://then-now-with-babbatu.captivate.fm]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">1d03b425-0b68-4139-882e-25995126db04</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/67964292-2bb7-41fe-91ee-3bdb076e6d52/7YKtOP6Y3muXIfXhAlFvRWL7.jpg"/><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dax.captivate.fm/1e617aaf-7b63-465d-ae81-7b308be295f9/EPISODE-8-WITH-AD-MARKERS-THEN-AND-NOW-encoded.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=85b9352f-39e1-488a-b8da-45ac4f608d24&amp;aw_0_1st.episodeid=1d03b425-0b68-4139-882e-25995126db04" length="58839502" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:01:17</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>KIDS PARTIES!</title><itunes:title>KIDS PARTIES!</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>Baba and Leonie tackle the issue of kids parties. </p><p>It's easy to do too much. Do you expect other parents to pay their way? The whole subject is a minefield!</p><p>When were kids parties better? Then or now? </p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baba and Leonie tackle the issue of kids parties. </p><p>It's easy to do too much. Do you expect other parents to pay their way? The whole subject is a minefield!</p><p>When were kids parties better? 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They reflect on the freedom and creativity of their playtime as children, emphasizing the importance of unstructured play and imagination, which seems to be lacking in today's children who often rely on screens for entertainment. The conversation highlights specific childhood games and activities, such as jumping gullies and playing Dandy Shandy, that fostered resilience and creativity. Both hosts express concern about the changes in children's play and the impact of over-scheduling and safety concerns that limit exploration. Ultimately, they celebrate the joys of parenting while acknowledging the challenges of raising children in a different era, where they strive to incorporate elements of their own joyful childhoods into their children's lives.</p><p class="ql-align-center">In the first Episode, TV's Babatunde Aléshé and his entrepreneur wife, Leonie talk about the games they played growing up. </p><p>As kids, they used to disappear for hours without their parents knowing what they were up to,  but skip to the present day and their children want to actually spend time with them?! </p><p>So when was it better, then or now?</p><h6><br></h6><p>Takeaways:</p><ul><li> Leonie and Bubba reflect on their childhood experiences and compare them to parenting today. </li><li> The podcast aims to explore how parenting has evolved from their childhoods to now. </li><li> They discuss the importance of play and how children today lack outdoor playtime. </li><li> Leonie shares her Jamaican upbringing and the freedom she experienced growing up. </li><li> Bubba emphasizes the shift in children's play, highlighting the presence of technology. </li><li> The hosts express concern about children not being able to explore their imaginations as freely. </li></ul><br/>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This podcast episode delves into the contrasts between childhood experiences of the hosts, Leonie and Bubba, and how those experiences shape their parenting styles today. 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