The Upside to Grief

Exploring the Transformative Power of Grief

Sat, 23 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The central theme of this podcast is the exploration of grief as a potentially transformative force in our lives. We, the hosts, Story and Erika, have established this podcast to delve into the complexities surrounding grief and to investigate whether there exists an upside to this profound experience. Throughout our discussions, we share our personal narratives and engage candidly with our guests, aiming to redefine societal perspectives on grief and challenge prevailing cultural norms. Furthermore, we introduce unique segments that highlight various dimensions of the grieving process, encouraging a more nuanced understanding of this often-avoided topic. We invite listeners to accompany us on this deeply personal journey, as we collectively seek to normalize the discourse surrounding grief while acknowledging its inherent difficulties.

Grief, a universal experience, is often perceived through a singular lens of pain and sorrow. However, the Upside to Grief Podcast offers a compelling alternative perspective, one that recognizes grief as a multifaceted phenomenon with the potential to elicit profound personal growth. I, alongside my co-host Erika, invite our listeners to embark on a journey of exploration and discovery, where we share our own encounters with grief while also welcoming guests who enrich our discussions with their diverse experiences. Our overarching aim is to illuminate the transformative power of grief, emphasizing that amidst the heartache, there exists the possibility for renewal and change.

In our dialogues, we delve into the often-unspoken narratives surrounding grief, tackling the societal expectations and cultural taboos that can inhibit meaningful conversations. We strive to redefine how grief is discussed, advocating for a more open approach that embraces vulnerability and authenticity. Each chapter will not only features personal stories but also introduces various thematic segments, including reflections on the quirks of grief and the sometimes inexplicable decisions we make in our grief journeys, which we refer to as 'questionable grief decisions.' These segments serve to humanize the grieving process, allowing listeners to find connection and solace in shared experiences.

The essence of our podcast lies in our commitment to fostering a supportive community where listeners can feel empowered to confront their grief without fear of judgment. We do not shy away from the discomfort inherent in loss; instead, we embrace it as a vital aspect of our collective humanity. By facilitating these important conversations, we hope to challenge the prevailing narratives that often marginalize grief, ultimately allowing for a more compassionate understanding of the complexities of loss and the potential for growth that can emerge from it.

Chapter 1: Ken

Sun, 31 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The inaugural chapter of 'The Upside of Grief' presents an intimate exploration of Story's profound journey through the labyrinth of grief following the untimely demise of her husband, Ken. This chapter serves as a testament to the enduring nature of the unforgiving cycles of life and death. In this candid conversation with co-host Erika, Story recounts the evolution of her relationship with Ken, detailing their shared moments, challenges, and the indelible impact he had on her life. The discussion encompasses not only the immediate aftermath of Ken's passing but also the ongoing struggle to navigate life in his absence. Story delves deep into her emotional landscape, articulating the raw realities of navigating life after Kens death. The discussion touches on the nuances of grief, the societal perceptions surrounding it, and the importance of honoring one's journey through this painful yet transformative experience. As the chapter unfurls, listeners are invited to reflect on their own experiences of loss and the ways in which they can find meaning amidst the sorrow. The chapter concludes with a message of hope and resilience, emphasizing the necessity of community support in the grieving process, thereby fostering a sense of connection and understanding among listeners who may share similar experiences.

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Questionable Grief Decisions aka QGD'S: Are we talking about babies?

Sun, 07 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0700

We are very excited to share our first Questionable Grief Decision Segment! We like to refer to them as QGD'S. In this segment of QGD'S we discuss Story's questionable grief decision, reflecting on the lessons learned and the personal growth that emerged from that tumultuous period. Story candidly expresses gratitude for the support she received, despite the questionable nature of her choices at the time, and emphasizes the importance of maintaining connections with those who stood by her side. The conversation culminates in a broader discussion about the normalization of sharing one's QGD's, advocating for a culture where individuals feel safe to express their vulnerabilities and the complexities of their grief without the burden of shame. This narrative not only provides a space for reflection but also encourages listeners to engage in open dialogues about their own experiences with grief and the questionable decisions they may have faced, fostering a sense of community and understanding amidst the often isolating experience of mourning. Through this episode, Story and Erika illuminate the path toward healing, underscoring that while grief can lead to questionable decisions, it is also a shared human experience that warrants compassion and open conversation.

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Chapter 2: Erika's Dad - The Gift of Grief

Sun, 14 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0700

In this chapter our lovely co-host Erika shares her deeply personal and multifaceted nature of her grief journey, centering on the profound loss of her dad. She speaks candidly about her dad's influence on her life and the void left in the wake of his passing, emphasizing that he was her first real experience with loss. This chapter serves as an exploration of the emotional landscape of grief, where feelings of admiration, longing, and sorrow intermingle, forming an intricate tapestry of her relationship with her dad.

As the conversation unfolds, Erika delves into the challenges posed by her dad's illness. The narrative highlights the importance of recognizing that grief can coexist with joy and gratitude, as she reflects on the lessons learned from her dad and the values he instilled within her. Through her personal anecdotes, listeners gain insight into the dual nature of grief—a journey that can encompass both heartache and moments of profound connection. Erika's resilience shines through as she navigates the complexities of her emotions, paving the way for healing in the aftermath of loss.

The chapter emphasizes the significance of rituals in honoring the deceased, as Erika shares her practices of remembrance that help keep her dad's spirit alive in her daily life. Whether it be through cooking his favorite meals or creating a dedicated space of remembrance, these rituals become a source of comfort and connection. As listeners engage with Erika's story, they are invited to reflect on their own experiences with grief, recognizing that it is a shared human experience that, while deeply personal, can also foster connections and understanding among us. This chapter ultimately illuminates the intricate dance of love and loss, encouraging a compassionate and open dialogue about the realities of grief.

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Grief Deck Pulls: That sounds like waterboarding yourself!

Sun, 21 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0700

We are excited to Introduce one of the many segments on the podcast "Grief Deck Pulls". This segment elucidates the therapeutic utility of engaging with grief through the practice of "Grief Deck Pulls." We, as hosts, delve into the significance of utilizing specialized decks that encompass rituals, meditations, and tools aimed at navigating the tumultuous waters of loss. In our discussion, we share personal anecdotes that highlight how these practices facilitate grounding and provide actionable insights during moments of emotional disarray. The segment further explores the metaphor of water as a transformative element, emphasizing the necessity of confronting grief rather than circumventing it. Ultimately, we invite our listeners to reflect on the importance of self-compassion and nurturing during their own grief journeys.

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Chapter 3: Embracing Grief as a Doorway

Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0700

Chapter three delves into the intricate interplay between grief and love, positing that they are not adversaries but rather interconnected experiences. We engage in a profound dialogue about the notion that grief may serve as a doorway to deeper love and understanding, challenging the conventional belief that love is the antithesis of grief. Throughout this chapter, we also introduce the idea that grief, while often perceived as a finite emotion, can be cyclical and transformative, continually shaping our realities. Moreover, we reflect upon the impact of unhelpful platitudes surrounding grief and their implications, inviting listeners to reconsider their perceptions and language regarding loss. Join us as we explore these complex themes and share personal anecdotes that illuminate the multifaceted nature of grief and love.

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The "What Ifs": Navigating Grief's Unanswered Questions

Sun, 05 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The exploration of the "what ifs" in our lives serves as the focal point of our discussion today. In this segment, we delve deeply into the myriad questions that arise from grief—those lingering thoughts of regrets, missed opportunities, and unexpressed sentiments. As we navigate this complex landscape, we aim not to resolve these uncertainties but rather to create a space for the intricate emotions associated with loss. This segment illuminates the dual nature of "what ifs," revealing that while they can lead us down somber paths, they also possess the potential to offer moments of introspection and even solace. Together, Story and Erika encourage listeners to engage with their own "what ifs," acknowledging the power they hold in helping us regain a sense of autonomy in our grief journey.

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Chapter 4: RoseAnne - When Faith Takes Over

Sun, 12 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0700

In chapter four of the podcast, Story talks with RoseAnne about the death of her father and her faith that carries her on the daily. Through her reflective recounting, we are offered a glimpse into the multifaceted nature of grief, characterized by moments of despair as well as unexpected revelations of love and connection. Story and RoseAnne engage in a candid dialogue about their respective journeys with grief. RoseAnne’s journey is particularly compelling, as she shares the emotional weight of her father's illness on short notice and the intimate moments shared during his final days. This exploration illuminates her personal journey but also fosters a sense of shared understanding and connection among listeners. Overall, the chapter captures the essence of grief as a complex and deeply personal experience, while also emphasizing the importance of communication and reflection in the healing process.

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Moments of Knowing: Hi Dad!!

Sun, 19 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0700

Introducing our segment "Moments of Knowing" In this segment, Story engages in a profound dialogue with our esteemed guest, RoseAnne, as we delve into the intimate and often ineffable experiences that accompany the process of grief and remembrance. Central to our discussion are the "moments of knowing," which encapsulate those extraordinary instances when one feels a visceral connection to a departed loved one, often manifesting through signs or serendipitous occurrences. RoseAnne shares poignant anecdotes, such as the striking coincidence of donning her father's shirt on the anniversary of his passing, which evokes a profound sense of connection and presence. We explore the subtle yet powerful ways in which our departed loved ones communicate with us, be it through dreams or unexpected encounters with nature, such as birds that evoke cherished memories. Through this segment, we illuminate the significance of recognizing and cherishing these moments, offering solace to those navigating the complexities of loss.

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Chapter 5: Sherie Honarvar - My dad is a warrior.

Sun, 26 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0700

Trigger Warning: This chapter contains discussions about suicide which may be distressing for some listeners. Please take care of yourself and skip this chapter if you need. Sherie will be joining us next week for the segment "Moments of Knowing", we encourage you to join us next week if this subject is triggering for you.

We are honored to have Sherie, the founder of Azadi Healing, join us for chapter five of our podcast. Sherie shares her experiences surrounding the loss of her dad to suicide, providing insight into the complexities of grief and the moments that define our understanding of loss. As she recounts the events leading to her dad's passing, she highlights the importance of presence and connection in times of sorrow. This conversation is not merely a recounting of pain but a testament to the love and memories that endure beyond loss. We invite you to tune in next week for Sherie's segment, "Moments of Knowing," where she will delve deeper into these themes.

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Moments of Knowing: The Power of Presence with Sherie

Sun, 02 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0700

This week's segment of "Moments of Knowing" features Sherie from Azadi Healing, who shares profound experiences of connection with her father, particularly surrounding the moments of his passing. Sherie articulates the ineffable nature of these experiences, wherein the energy of her father manifests in ways that are deeply empowering and transformative. A pivotal moment she recounts is the night of her father's death, which marked a significant alteration in her life and understanding of existence. Throughout the discussion, both Story and Erika engage with Sherie's insights, exploring how these moments serve as affirmations of love and guidance from those we have lost. This segment poignantly illustrates how grief can facilitate moments of knowing that transcend ordinary understanding, fostering a sense of continuity and connection beyond physical presence.

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Chapter 6: Learning to be someone they will never know

Sun, 09 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The core of this chapter revolves around the profound notion of "learning to be someone they will never know," which reflects the transformative journey individuals embark upon following the loss of a significant person in their lives. We delve into the complexities of grief, acknowledging the inevitable changes that accompany such loss and the challenge of reconciling one's evolving identity with the absence of that loved one. In conjunction with this theme, we explore the poignant acceptance of how life can still hold goodness in the absence of those we mourn. This acceptance does not diminish the void left behind but rather invites an exploration of gratitude and growth amidst the sorrow. Ultimately, we engage in a candid discussion about the intricacies of navigating grief, emphasizing the importance of connection and dialogue in this shared human experience.

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Moments of Knowing: Unveiling the Spiritual Connections in Grief

Sun, 16 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The salient point of today's segment revolves around the profound concept of "moments of knowing," which we explore in depth. These moments are characterized by inexplicable experiences that connect us to the energies of those we have lost, often manifesting as sensations that transcend the physical realm. Story recounts a particularly significant experience during a trip to San Francisco, where she felt the presence of her late husband while scattering his ashes at a beach. This event was punctuated by a remarkable and synchronistic occurrence: as she released his ashes, the weather shifted dramatically, illuminating the spiritual essence of the moment. Erika and Story engage in a thoughtful discussion about the nature of these moments, emphasizing their importance in the context of grief and healing, and inviting listeners to reflect on their own experiences of knowing.

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Chapter 7: Jo Story - Growing with Grief

Sun, 23 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The focus of this chapter is the profound exploration of grief as we engage in a heartfelt dialogue with Jo Story, the mother of our host, Story. Jo recounts the harrowing experience of losing her younger brother, Leroy, who succumbed to stage four colon cancer at the age of 42. This poignant conversation delves into the complexities of familial relationships, the burdens of guilt, and the emotional landscape that accompanies such a significant loss. Jo reflects on her evolving relationship with Leroy, from a nurturing sibling dynamic to the challenges posed by distance and life circumstances. Through this intimate exchange, we gain insight into the enduring impact of loss and the intricate pathways of healing that emerge in its wake.

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Questionable Grief Decisions: Wedding Bells Amidst Heartbreak

Sun, 30 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0700

In this segment of "Questionable Grief Decisions" we explore the intricate and often tumultuous relationship between grief and decision-making. Jo Story, our guest and host’s mother, divulges her deeply personal experience of choosing to start wedding planning merely two days following the death of her brother. This decision, made amidst the fog of profound grief, epitomizes the complexities of human emotion and the often irrational choices we make in times of sorrow. Through candid reflection, Jo articulates the conflicting feelings that accompanied her choice, ultimately recognizing it as a manifestation of her grief and a misguided attempt to assert control over an uncertain future. This segment invites listeners to contemplate their own experiences with grief and the decisions made in its wake, while fostering an understanding of the shared struggles inherent in the grieving process.

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Chapter 8: Luis Romero - Maddog Gus & Fuck Fentanyl

Sun, 07 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0700

Luis Romero’s grief journey is marked by the interplay between loss, memory, and the struggle for redemption. In this engaging dialogue with hosts Story and Erika, Luis reflects on the transformative effect of his father's death when he was only ten years old. He articulates the duality of his father's legacy—a man who battled personal demons yet emerged as a source of love and guidance. This complex relationship serves as the foundation for Luis's subsequent journey through grief, which spiraled into addiction. After getting clean Luis recounts the painful moments of losing his best friend Phil to an overdose, Luis talks about the cyclical nature of grief and addiction, revealing how these experiences have intertwined to shape his present. The discussion evolves to address the societal stigma surrounding addiction and the importance of creating spaces for open conversations about grief. By sharing his experiences, Luis not only honors the memory of his loved ones but also strives to foster a greater understanding of the impact of loss on mental health and community support.

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Grief in the Wild: Confronting Emotion in Everyday Spaces

Sun, 14 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0700

We are excited to introduce one of the five segments on our podcast, "Grief in the Wild". In grief we often experience unexpected manifestations of grief in public spaces. Luis shares the harrowing experience of mourning his best friend, Paul, who died in December 2021.

Throughout the conversation, Luis recounts a particularly striking incident that exemplifies the unpredictability of grief, wherein he found himself overtaken by emotion in a seemingly mundane circumstance—a parking lot visit to a fast-food restaurant. This moment serves as a powerful illustration of how grief can manifest unexpectedly, disrupting the normalcy of life's routines and plunging individuals into a whirlwind of emotion. The discussion unfolds to explore the societal implications of public grief, addressing the often unspoken expectation to remain composed in the face of sorrow.

Through this lens, Story and Erika facilitate a deeper understanding of the internal struggles faced by those in mourning, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and validating such experiences. As we embark on this new segment, we invite listeners to reflect on their own experiences with grief as we navigate the intricate landscape of loss together.

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Chapter 9: Navigating the Firsts of Grief, Holidays and Anniversaries.

Sun, 21 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0700

Chapter 9 delves into the intricate and multifaceted experience of navigating the initial milestones of grief, particularly during significant temporal markers such as holidays and anniversaries. Story and Erika, articulate their personal encounters with these moments, revealing the emotional complexities that accompany the first holiday and other notable dates following the loss of a loved one. They share candid reflections on how the 'firsts' are both reminders of absence and opportunities for introspection, demonstrating how grief can manifest in varying forms as the calendar turns.

As the chapter progresses, the hosts explore the concept of 'firsts' in grief with a nuanced lens, emphasizing that each individual's experience is distinct and laden with personal significance. They reflect on the anticipatory anxiety that precedes these dates and how, for many, the days leading up to an anniversary or holiday can evoke more profound emotions than the days themselves. This exploration serves as a reminder that grief is not linear; rather, it is a complex journey that evolves over time, with each 'first' presenting both challenges and opportunities for remembrance and healing. The chapter concludes with an invitation for listeners to share their own experiences, fostering a sense of community and connection among those navigating similar paths.

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Grief Deck Pulls: Healing With Ritual's

Sun, 28 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0700

The primary focus of this segment revolves around the practice of "grief deck pulls," wherein we, Story and Erika, engage in a reflective exploration of cards that symbolize various aspects of grief, healing, and grace. Through this practice, we aim to facilitate a profound conversation that delves into the intricate emotions associated with loss and the pathways toward healing. The spontaneity inherent in pulling cards serves as a catalyst for dialogue, allowing us to navigate our individual experiences and insights related to grief. We invite listeners to join us in this journey, fostering an atmosphere of openness and introspection. Ultimately, this segment is not merely about the cards themselves, but rather the deeper meanings they invoke and the conversations they inspire.

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Chapter 10: Two Deaths & Honoring Memories

Sun, 04 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0700

The central theme of this bonus chapter revolves around the strategies to honor our departed loved ones with more love than pain. In a heartfelt dialogue, Story, Erika and Storys mother Jo, delve into the significance of keeping the memories of our loved ones alive through the act of remembrance. We discuss the notion that a person experiences two deaths: the physical departure and the final time their name is spoken. This concept serves as a poignant reminder that, by sharing stories and memories, we can transform our grief into a celebration of life. Through our candid conversations, we aim to foster a more compassionate understanding of grief, encouraging listeners to embrace love and remembrance as integral components of the healing journey.

Grief Deck Pulls: Grounding Conversations

Sun, 11 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0700

The segment titled 'Grief Deck Pulls' introduces an engaging exploration of grief through the lens of card readings. Within this thought-provoking discourse, Story, the host, alongside co-host Erika and special guest Jo, delves into the intricate layers of grief while employing two unique oracle decks. Each card pulled serves as a catalyst for deeper reflection, encouraging the participants to share personal anecdotes and insights related to the themes presented. The conversation flows organically, revealing the multifaceted nature of grief and the importance of community support during such challenging times. As they navigate the readings, the trio emphasizes the notion that healing is not a linear process but rather a spiral journey that involves revisiting past wounds with compassion and understanding. The segment ultimately underscores the necessity of dialogue surrounding grief, advocating for openness and vulnerability as essential components of the healing journey.

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Chapter 11: Dan

Sun, 18 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0700

In Chapter 11, Story engages in a discussion with our guest, Eileen, as she recounts her intricate journey through grief, following the loss of her husband, Daniel Joseph Levine. Eileen articulates the emotional turmoil and existential challenges she faced during his battle with depression, which ultimately culminated in his tragic passing. Throughout our conversation, we explore the complex interplay between mourning and the pursuit of healing, emphasizing that while grief can be an all-consuming force, it may also serve as a catalyst for personal growth and connection with others. Eileen's reflections poignantly illustrate the paradox of finding solace in shared memories while grappling with the permanence of loss. As we navigate the delicate terrain of grief, we aspire to offer listeners insights that may illuminate their own paths through sorrow and towards resilience.

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Grief in the Wild: The Intersection of Grief and Daily Life with Eileen

Sun, 25 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0700

This segment of "Grief in the Wild" features an exploration of the unexpected moments when grief manifests in everyday life, as shared by our guest, Eileen. She articulates the poignant experience of encountering grief in public spaces, particularly through the medium of music, which often triggers overwhelming emotions amidst routine activities. Eileen recounts how certain songs evoke memories of her late husband, leading to moments of both joy and sorrow, thereby illustrating the intricate interplay between remembrance and grief. Together, we delve into the concept of "moments of knowing," where reminders of lost loved ones can elicit a sense of connection, even as they underscore their absence. This episode serves as a testament to the enduring impact of love and memory, encapsulating the bittersweet nature of grief as it intertwines with the fabric of daily life.

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Chapter 12: Navigating the labyrinth of loss with Dr.Karen

Sun, 01 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0700

Chapter 12 presents an enriching conversation featuring Dr. Karen, who shares her profound insights and personal experiences regarding the intricate nature of grief. As the dialogue unfolds, Dr. Karen delves into her tumultuous journey through multiple layers of loss, including the death of her father and her beloved pet, as well as the emotional upheaval accompanying her divorce. This chapter emphasizes the complex interplay of grief beyond mere bereavement, highlighting the psychological ramifications of various life events. Dr. Karen articulates how societal expectations often trivialize personal grief, coining the term 'disenfranchised grief' to describe losses that, while significant to the individual, are overlooked by broader society. This nuanced exploration invites listeners to reconsider their perceptions of grief, fostering a greater understanding of its multifaceted nature and encouraging a culture of empathy and recognition for all forms of loss.

The chapter also highlights the importance of acknowledging one’s feelings and the necessity of supportive environments in navigating grief. Dr. Karen's framework for 'Healthy Grief' serves as a valuable tool for individuals seeking to process their emotions, promoting the idea that grief is an ongoing journey rather than a discrete event. By sharing her personal anecdotes and professional insights, Dr. Karen inspires listeners to engage with their grief authentically, advocating for a compassionate approach to processing loss, which she argues is essential for healing and growth. As the chapter concludes, it becomes evident that through understanding and sharing our grief stories, we not only honor our experiences but also connect more deeply with ourselves and others, thereby enriching our collective human experience.

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Moments of Knowing: The Energy Beyond with Dr.Karen

Sun, 08 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0700

The segment titled "Moments of Knowing" features an enlightening dialogue between Story, Erika, and their esteemed guest, Dr. Karen, who shares profound personal experiences that elucidate the concept of unexplainable connections beyond the physical realm. The narrative unfolds as Dr. Karen recounts her unique upbringing, influenced by her engineer father and clairvoyant mother, which cultivated her sensitivity to the energies surrounding her. She elaborates on her own poignant moment of knowing, particularly following the passing of her father-in-law, where she vividly describes encountering his energy in a manner that transcends conventional understanding. This segment serves not only as an exploration of grief but as a testament to the enduring connections that persist beyond death, inviting listeners to reflect on their own moments of knowing and the profound implications of such experiences.

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Chapter 13: Me, Myself, and Ken.

Sun, 15 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0700

Chapter 13 is a poignant exploration of grief, featuring a heartfelt discussion between Story and her sister-in-law, Terri. This chapter confronts the concept of 'Grief of the Self,' with Terri sharing her deeply personal journey following her diagnosis of Goodpasture Syndrome and the subsequent loss of her brother Ken, who was also Story's late husband. The dialogue illuminates the multifaceted nature of grief, particularly as it intertwines with one’s health struggles and identity. Terri recounts the abrupt onset of her health issues at the age of 22—a shocking moment that thrust her into a battle with chronic illness and impending mortality. Her narrative intertwines with the anguish of losing Ken, exploring how grief can simultaneously fracture and forge connections, particularly within a family that has experienced profound loss. The emotional weight of her experiences is palpable, as she reflects on the shifts in her self-perception and the challenges of navigating her new reality while mourning the loss of her brother. As the chapter unfolds, listeners are drawn into the complexities of Terri's journey, witnessing the intersection of illness and grief. Her candid reflections serve as a powerful reminder that grief is not merely a response to loss, but a transformative experience that reshapes our understanding of ourselves and our relationships with others. This chapter encourages a deeper engagement with the themes of loss, identity, and the enduring impact of love that transcends even the most profound sorrow.

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Moments of Knowing: Embracing the Presence of the Departed

Sun, 22 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0700

Moments of Knowing features a deeply personal and contemplative conversation between Story and her sister-in-law, Terri, as they navigate the intricate landscape of grief and the profound connections that persist after a loved one has passed away. The segment introduces the concept of 'moments of knowing,' defined as those inexplicable experiences wherein one feels the unmistakable energy of a departed loved one. Terri shares an emotionally resonant story about her brother's passing, recounting a significant event that occurred shortly thereafter: awakening to find the clock displaying his birthday, a moment she interpreted as a sign of his enduring presence. As the discourse unfolds, the hosts explore the multifaceted nature of grief, acknowledging that individuals may experience a spectrum of connections with their deceased relatives. Terri elaborates on her feelings regarding her lost twins, conveying a sense of their omnipresence in her life. The conversation invites listeners to reflect on their own experiences with grief, encouraging an understanding that love and connection do not dissipate with death but rather transform into new forms of awareness that can manifest in various ways, from physical sensations to emotional intuitions. Throughout the segment, Story and Terri delve into the complexities of their individual journeys through grief, illustrating how these moments of knowing can serve as both comfort and challenge. Story articulates her own struggles with the notion of a constant presence, sharing her experience of feeling her husband with her during significant moments, yet grappling with the ambivalence of such connections. This reflective dialogue fosters a deeper appreciation for the enduring bonds that exist between the living and the dead, ultimately empowering listeners to embrace their grief journeys with openness and sensitivity.

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Chapter 14: In Search of the Truth with Naniece

Sun, 01 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0700

In Chapter 14 our guest, Naniece shares about the tragic and complex narrative surrounding her uncle, Maurilio, and his two children, Tony and Angelica, who were murdered in June 2012. As Naniece recounts her experiences, she reveals the profound impact of their deaths on her life and the subsequent emotional turmoil that ensued within her family. Through her introspective reflections, we delve into the multifaceted nature of grief, examining how it manifests in various forms and influences one's journey toward healing. This chapter serves not only as a testament to the enduring bonds of family but also as an exploration of the challenges that accompany the process of mourning, ultimately inviting listeners to contemplate their own experiences with loss.

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Grief Deck Pulls: Boundaries and Grace in Grief

Sun, 08 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0700

In this enlightening segment of Grief Deck Pulls, we are privileged to welcome back Naniece, who engages in a profound exploration of grief through the medium of card readings. Hosted by Story, the dialogue is both insightful and evocative, touching upon essential themes of grace, boundary-setting, and the intricate web of relationships that often become strained during periods of loss. The initial card drawn from the Grace, Grief, and Healing deck acts as a catalyst for deeper discussion, prompting a reflection on the necessity of establishing firm boundaries while also embodying kindness and compassion. This principle of maintaining a dignified detachment from negativity is a vital lesson for listeners who may find themselves navigating complex emotional landscapes. As the conversation unfolds, both Story and Naniece share personal narratives that resonate with the card’s message, illustrating how their individual experiences with grief have shaped their understanding of interpersonal dynamics. The hosts emphasize the importance of avoiding petty disputes and remaining steadfast in one’s values, even when faced with challenging individuals. This segment serves as a poignant reminder that while grief can be isolating, it also offers opportunities for self-discovery and growth through the practice of grace. The dialogue fosters a sense of community among listeners, encouraging them to consider their own boundaries and the impact of their choices on their healing journeys. Further enriching the discourse, the hosts introduce the concept of beauty as an essential component of healing. They discuss the therapeutic effects of engaging with nature and surrounding oneself with aesthetically pleasing environments, underscoring the notion that beauty can serve as a balm for the soul during times of distress. This exploration leads to a broader conversation about the duality of grief; while it can feel overwhelming, embracing the beauty in life’s simple moments can provide solace and inspire hope. The segment ultimately concludes with a powerful affirmation of purpose, reminding listeners that amidst the chaos of grief, there lies an opportunity for renewal and the rediscovery of joy.

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Chapter 15: Understanding Time and Shifting Realities in Grief

Sun, 15 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0700

The transition from the physical presence of a loved one to their spiritual existence constitutes the central theme of this chapter. We delve into the complex nature of acceptance, exploring the emotional intricacies that accompany the acknowledgment of a loved one’s death. The discourse further investigates the intertwining concepts of time and shifting realities, illustrating how these elements impact our personal grieving journeys. We engage in a thoughtful dialogue about the myriad ways individuals can experience and interpret their connections with those who have passed, emphasizing that acceptance does not imply complete emotional reconciliation. Through this exploration, we aim to shed light on the multifaceted nature of grief, encouraging listeners to navigate their feelings with compassion and understanding.

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Grief in the Wild: From Airports to Grocery Stores and everything in between.

Sun, 22 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0700

The focal point of this segment, Grief in the Wild, is the profound realization that grief often manifests unexpectedly in public settings, intruding upon the mundane aspects of daily life. In this installment, Story shares a deeply personal narrative centered around a recent airport experience, where the absence of her late husband's ashes became an overwhelming source of emotional turmoil amidst the backdrop of travel. Through this account, we explore the complexities of grieving in public spaces, as well as the often-unacknowledged struggles that accompany such moments. Erika complements the narrative by engaging in a reflective dialogue, inviting listeners to contemplate their own experiences with grief. Together, they illuminate the shared human experience of navigating loss, underscoring that grief does not adhere to a timetable and can arise at the most unexpected junctures.

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Chapter 16: The Legacy of Annaliese

Sun, 29 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0700

Leandra's poignant narrative revolves around the profound and heart-wrenching experience of losing her daughter, Annaliese, in a tragic accident. As the fourth anniversary of this tragic event approaches, Leandra reflects on the indelible impact her daughter's life continues to have, underscoring the importance of awareness in child safety, particularly concerning school buses. Throughout our conversation, we delve into the complexities of grief, exploring how it shapes our understanding of empathy and connection with others who endure similar losses. Leandra's journey is not solely one of sorrow; it is imbued with a sense of purpose as she transforms her pain into advocacy, striving to ensure that no parent endures the anguish she has faced. Ultimately, this chapter serves as a testament to resilience, the enduring bond between a mother and her child, and the imperative to cherish every moment with our loved ones.

Grief in the Wild: Real Stories of Loss and Resilience with Leandra

Sun, 05 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0700

In this poignant segment of "Grief in the Wild," we engage in a profound dialogue with our esteemed guest, Leandra, who shares her deeply personal experiences with grief in everyday settings. Central to our conversation is the notion that grief can unexpectedly manifest while engaging in routine activities, such as shopping or attending school events, thereby catching one off guard. Leandra recounts a particularly striking instance during back-to-school shopping, wherein the joyful anticipation of preparing her son for school prompted a cascade of memories of her late daughter, Annaliese. This emotional journey underscores the bittersweet reality of navigating life after loss, as Leandra reflects on the importance of cherishing the moments she has with her son, while simultaneously grappling with the absence of her daughter. We explore the complexities of grief and the necessity of acknowledging and discussing such experiences, fostering a space where individuals can feel less isolated in their sorrow.

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