They move effortlessly between joy and reality—celebrating Black brilliance, interrogating relationships, naming economic uncertainty, and reminding us that your next move might just be your most powerful one.

I See You, Girl

This week’s love is rooted in Black creativity and cultural excellence.

Jayne gives flowers to the Black women who shaped the Met Gala narrative, highlighting the full-circle moment of Beyoncé’s leadership and the long arc from wearable art to high fashion dominance. It’s about honoring the lineage—the quiet rooms where culture was built before the spotlight ever arrived.

Nikki brings us to the future with Kamira Johnson, a young finalist in Google’s national “Doodle for Google” competition. Her piece, centered on Black hair as power, transforms identity into art—literally shaping the word “Google” through curls and connection. A crown that grows from us.

This is legacy in motion—past, present, and becoming.

What We’re On Right Now

Jayne is deep in her Summer Writing Kickstart era, responding to layoffs, uncertainty, and shifting economies with something radical: ownership. She breaks down how writing a book became her entry point into entrepreneurship—and how she’s now teaching others to do the same.

Key idea: Your experience is not ordinary—it’s intellectual property.

She reframes books as more than art:

They are income streams, credibility builders, and doors.

Nikki, meanwhile, is in a season of intentional intake—reading, learning, healing, and making sure that whatever she consumes actually transforms her. Not just doing the work—but asking, did it change me?

Together, they land on a shared truth:

In uncertain times, skill-building is survival.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Nikki introduces us to Zelda Wynn Valdes, a pioneering Black designer who opened her own boutique in 1948 and dressed legends like Josephine Baker and Ella Fitzgerald.

And then—because history loves to hide its receipts—she drops the gem:

Zelda Wynn Valdes designed the original Playboy Bunny costume.

Jayne expands the conversation into modern entrepreneurship, spotlighting Curl Days, a Black-owned haircare brand born from one woman solving her own problem.

The throughline:

Start small. Stay consistent. Build something that answers a need.

Because what begins as a solution for you can become infrastructure for others.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Nikki sounds the alarm (lightly, but not really) on a viral outbreak tied to a cruise ship, reminding us how quickly things can escalate in a globally connected world.

It’s not panic—it’s awareness.

Protect your body. Stay ready.

Jayne shifts the energy into emotional territory with a cultural breakup that hit deeper than expected—using it as a doorway into a larger truth about relationships:

It’s not always you.

She unpacks the psychology of high-performing men and ego-based coping mechanisms, naming a reality many women experience but struggle to articulate:

When someone’s way of handling pain is destructive,

there is nothing you can do to love them out of it.

That’s not failure. That’s clarity.

Health & Healing

This moment becomes a quiet offering—almost a whisper to anyone who needs it:

Check your breath. Check your body. Check your thoughts.

They explore breathwork as a tool for regulation and release, grounding themselves in something simple but powerful:

Inhale for five. Hold for five. Exhale for five.

Because sometimes healing doesn’t require a breakthrough.

It requires a pause.

What’s Good

There is innovation in the air—and it sounds like music.

Jayne introduces Suno, an AI-powered platform where people are turning everyday moments—text threads, jokes, family conversations—into full songs.

It’s funny. It’s strange. It’s a little uncanny.

But more than anything, it signals a shift:

Creativity is becoming more accessible—and more personal—than ever before.

Nikki closes with global perspective:

Mexico is rolling out universal healthcare for over 120 million people.

A reminder that systems can change.

That access can expand.

That different futures are always being built—somewhere.

Final Word

Jayne: Outside.

Inside learning, outside living—holding both at once.

Nikki: Just breathe.

Because in the middle of everything—noise, pressure, movement—

your breath is still yours.

Show Links:

Kameirah Johnson is a Finalist for Doodle for Google

Jayne's Teaching a Summer Writer's BlockBuster at BookGenius

That CurlDaze Gel Jayne Was Talking About...

Zelda Wynn Valdez’ Story

Mexico announced universal healthcare

15 minute breathwork

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: catching up like public girlfriends before settling into the conversation. Nikki is navigating a full content rotation—from television to cultural moments—while Jayne arrives in what she calls “commentary mode,” observing more than reacting. That framing becomes the through-line for the episode: not everything requires a response, and not every moment deserves your energy.

From there, the conversation moves through cultural recognition, entrepreneurial pivots, hair care experimentation, media consumption, digital chaos, and the ongoing work of protecting your attention in a world that constantly tries to claim it.

I See You Girl

Jayne’s I See You Girl goes to Teyana Taylor for her Janet Jackson-inspired People Magazine shoot, a visual homage that was both intentional and meticulously executed. The moment was elevated even further when Janet herself responded publicly, acknowledging Teyana’s tribute and celebrating her directly. It becomes less about the photos and more about the exchange—a real-time recognition that closes the gap between inspiration and influence.

Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to entrepreneur Danielle Leslie, who is currently navigating a very public transition out of the business model that made her successful. After building a multi-million dollar course brand, Danielle is now stepping back, questioning her identity, and sharing transparently about the financial and emotional realities behind the scenes. It’s not a clean or resolved story, but it’s an honest one—and that honesty is what makes it worth paying attention to.

What We’re On Right Now

Jayne is currently on a hair journey that centers on rethinking everything she has been taught about maintenance, moisture, and growth. Through daily washing, finger detangling, and simplifying her approach, she is developing a more direct relationship with her hair—one rooted in observation rather than assumption. It’s less about quick results and more about learning in real time.

Nikki is currently on Imperfect Women, a series that leans into complicated relationships, layered storytelling, and emotional tension. What initially feels like a familiar setup quickly reveals itself to be more nuanced, offering a reminder that not all narratives are meant to resolve neatly—and that sometimes the complexity is the point.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne’s Mindin’ My Black Business goes to Curly Proverbs, a brand built on years of natural hair research, Ayurvedic practices, and intentional experimentation. What began as shared knowledge has evolved into a line of products that reflect both discipline and lived experience, reinforcing the value of expertise that is cultivated over time.

Nikki’s Mindin’ My Black Business spotlights HyaPak, a Kenya-based company transforming invasive water plants into biodegradable plastic alternatives. By repurposing what was once an environmental burden, the company has created a sustainable solution that supports both ecological restoration and economic opportunity, offering a powerful example of innovation grounded in necessity.

Jesus Take the Wheel

This week’s moment begins with a surprising realization: a widely recognized early-2000s song carries a meaning far heavier than many listeners initially understood. What once felt nostalgic shifts into something more sobering upon closer reflection, reframing the way the music is experienced.

The conversation then takes an unexpected turn into the realities of the human body—specifically, aspects of female anatomy that were either misunderstood or never fully explained. The tone remains light, but the underlying sentiment is clear: there is a lot we are still learning, even about ourselves.

Health & Healing

This week’s Health & Healing centers on attention—how it is given, how it is used, and what it costs.

Using recent online discourse as a reference point, Nikki reflects on the intensity with which people engage in debates about individuals they do not know personally. The conversation highlights how easily identity becomes attached to opinion, and how quickly engagement escalates into emotional investment.

Jayne expands on this by naming attention as a form of currency. Every reaction—whether supportive or critical—feeds the same system, raising the question of whether participation is always necessary.

The takeaway is simple, but requires practice: not everything requires your response, and choosing not to engage is often the most grounded decision available.

What’s Good

Nikki’s What’s Good is a major cultural investment—a historic donation to NPR that reinforces the importance of journalism, storytelling, and access to information. In a moment where so much feels unstable, it serves as a reminder that there are still people choosing to invest in infrastructure that informs and connects us.

Jayne’s What’s Good is more personal: the quiet satisfaction of consistency. Whether it’s hair care, daily routines, or small acts of self-maintenance, she reflects on the value of tending to yourself in ways that are steady, intentional, and aligned.

Final Word

Nikki’s final word: You cannot hold yourself responsible for decisions you made while someone was misrepresenting who they were.

Jayne’s final word: This is a season of glowing and growing—of becoming more of who you are, with intention.

SHOW LINKS:

Janet has praise for Teyana

Danielle Leslie is a Broke Millionnaire

Imperfect Women on Apple TV

Curly Proverbz Coffee MSM Fenugreek Elixir Hair Oil

Joseph Nguthiru’s Hyapak

NPR receives $113 million in gifts!

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: catching up like public girlfriends before finally turning on the microphones. Nikki is fully locked into the wonder of the Artemis II mission, celebrating the crew’s safe return from orbiting the moon and reflecting on what it means to see Earth from the outside. Jayne, meanwhile, arrives with a deeply relatable out-of-office reply: she is currently under-functioning because she got tired of over-functioning — a phrase that sets up one of the episode’s most resonant conversations.

From there, the conversation moves through international dating, Black women in space, fasting and autophagy, Black-owned haircare, deepfake violations, burnout, boundaries, music, Mardi Gras Indian artistry, and the emotional labor of finally telling the truth to yourself.

I See You Girl

Jayne’s I See You Girl goes to Nia Moore, the endlessly entertaining private flight attendant, foodie, and globe-trotting auntie who is documenting her international dating adventures with boldness, humor, and zero apology. From London to Barcelona to LA, Nehamore is trying different dating apps, inviting handsome men out on dates she plans herself, and showing what it looks like to create your own fun instead of waiting to be chosen. For Jayne, it’s both aspirational and refreshing — an example of a woman fully living.

Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to Kiari Dools, the NASA exploration scientist and flight controller who became a Threads favorite during the Artemis II mission. As one of the Black women helping guide the mission from the ground, Kiari became a symbol of brilliance, representation, and modern-day hidden figures no more.

What We’re On Right Now

Jayne is currently on autophagy — the body’s process of cellular cleanup and renewal — and specifically the role fasting can play in activating it. She shares her fascination with Fast Life Jay, who has been publicly documenting an extended fast and dramatic health transformation, and reflects on how that conversation intersects with her own wellness and body-composition journey.

Nikki is currently on space exploration, and not casually. She is all the way in on Artemis II, from the astronauts’ reflections to the emotional symbolism of the mission to the generations of Black brilliance that made it possible. For Nikki, this mission was more than science — it was hope, perspective, humility, and a reminder that we are all riding this same fragile spaceship together.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne’s Mindin’ My Black Business goes to Camille Rose Naturals, the Black-founded natural haircare company still owned by its original founder, Janell Stephens. As Jayne continues her daily wash-and-go experiment and deepens her relationship with her hair, she spotlights the brand’s ingredient integrity, founder story, and commitment to natural formulations rooted in care.

She also gives love to TGIN, another Black-founded haircare line with deep personal significance, as she reflects on the importance of supporting companies that remain rooted in their original mission and legacy.

Nikki’s Mindin’ My Black Business spotlights the DualShot app, created by Derrick Downey Jr., which allows creators to record vertical and horizontal video at the same time. Born from Derrick’s own creative needs — and after many people first came to know him through his beloved squirrel content — the app is a smart, useful reminder that innovation often starts with solving your own problem first.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes out of Germany, where a television presenter and actress has alleged that for years, pornographic deepfakes, fake social profiles, and AI-generated voice impersonations of her were being spread online — and that the person behind it may have been her own husband. The story becomes a chilling meditation on digital abuse, humiliation as a fetishized form of control, and the terrifying reality that some of the chaos women experience may be coming from inside the house.

The conversation then broadens into a larger reflection on insecurity, manipulation, and the unsettling emotional pattern of people harming the very person they are supposed to love.

Health & Healing

This week’s Health & Healing centers on a powerful question:

What happens when you stop over-functioning?

Jayne opens up about realizing just how much of her life has been shaped by over-functioning — managing other people’s comfort, suppressing her own pain, dulling her honest reactions, and carrying emotional burdens that should never have been hers to hold. Triggered by a recent piece of information that opened a much older wound, she reflects on the compassion she now feels for past versions of herself and the cost of constantly staying regulated for everyone else.

Nikki meets her there with sharp clarity, connecting Jayne’s revelation to her own experience of leaving a job that required too much and gave too little back. Together, they talk about the long arc of burnout recovery, the challenge of staying honest once you’ve finally named the problem, and the active work of under-functioning after years of doing too much.

The takeaway is clear:

sometimes healing is not about doing more.

Sometimes it is about finally stopping.

What’s Good

Nikki’s What’s Good is Demond Melancon, the New Orleans artist and Big Chief of the Young Seminole Hunters tribe whose hand-beaded Mardi Gras suit this year told the story of the Amistad. Through an explanation of Black masking culture, Mardi Gras Indian tradition, and the artistry behind the suits, Nikki highlights a breathtaking example of Black craftsmanship, cultural memory, and living art. Demond’s work is now headed to the Venice Biennale, and rightly so.

Jayne’s What’s Good is simple but resonant: the beauty of seeing the culture continue to create, endure, and expand — from music to style to spiritual resilience. And if there is a through-line in this episode, it is that Black creativity remains one of the most enduring forms of survival and joy we have.

Final Word

Nikki’s final word:

One love, one heart. Let’s join together and feel all right.

Jayne’s final word:

The joy that I have, the world didn’t give it to me — and the world can’t take it away.

Episode Links:

Nia Moore on Dating and Dining Around the Globe

Kiarre Dumes x Artemis II

Artemis II

Fast Life Jay on His 99th Day of Water Fasting

Derrick Downey Jr x DualShot App

Camille Rose Naturals

Big Chief Demond Melancon’s 25K Suit

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and catching up like the public girlfriends they are. Jayne is still in mourning over Duke’s devastating NCAA loss to UConn — a loss so painful it reopened a very specific 1999 college-era wound. Nikki, meanwhile, is fully tapped into the Bravo discourse and gives Jayne a live update on the latest Summer House chaos, friendship betrayal, and why the girls are currently riding at dawn for Sierra.

From there, the conversation moves through Black excellence, Women’s History Month, the WNBA, music, natural hair, vacation dreams, AI theft, disappointing public figures, and the healing work of learning to protect your peace without explanation.

I See You Girl

Jayne’s I See You Girl goes to Megan Thee Stallion, whose latest era continues to be one of expansion, reinvention, and undeniable elevation. This week, Jayne spotlights Megan’s historic Broadway run in Moulin Rouge, where she is playing the role of Zidler — a role traditionally played by a man — making her the first woman to take it on in the production. Even with a brief health scare caused by exhaustion, Meg remains a force, and Jayne gives her flowers for continuing to level up in public, in real time, and on her own terms.

Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to Claudia Goldin, the Nobel Prize-winning economist whose volunteer work helped the WNBA Players Association secure one of the biggest labor wins in sports history. From salary increases to better benefits and long-overdue structural correction, Claudia’s work reminds us that math, rigor, and advocacy can absolutely change lives — especially for women whose labor has long been undervalued.

What We’re On Right Now

Nikki is currently on music — specifically a run of artists who are making her life better in real time. She shouts out RAYE, whose new album has only deepened her admiration, and also puts listeners onto Naomi Scott’s album Fallen to Grace, a polished, soulful, pop-forward project with texture, restraint, and a boutique-coffeehouse kind of cool. For Nikki, this is music to drive to, live with, and return to.

Jayne is currently on daily washing for natural hair — a full-on experiment inspired by the idea that Black textured hair may thrive with more moisture than many of us have been taught to give it. She talks about washing, finger-detangling, trying products, and building a new relationship with her hair in real time. It’s part beauty journey, part discipline, part curiosity, and fully a reminder that sometimes growth requires unlearning.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne spotlights Amina Jillil, the luxury shoe designer whose sculptural, hyper-feminine, instantly recognizable footwear has become a fashion force. From oversized bows to statement gems to thigh-high leather boots that may or may not become a post-Duke-loss consolation gift to herself, Jayne celebrates Amina’s rise from dancer to global designer and the vision it took to build a brand that feels both glamorous and unmistakable.

Nikki highlights Finger Lakes Treehouse, founded by Daryl and Patrice Maxam, a Black-owned hospitality concept that grew from an Airbnb room rental into a full experience-driven getaway brand. With treehouses, cabins, Airstreams, nature, fire pits, and a whole different pace of living, the property becomes a symbol of what can happen when you start small, stay consistent, and build toward something bigger.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the bizarre and deeply troubling story of a white influencer who allegedly used AI to put her face onto the body of a Black woman in a tennis-stadium photo and then posted it as her own. The conversation becomes a larger meditation on theft, digital fraud, entitlement, and the exhausting familiarity of seeing Black creators and Black women treated as raw material for somebody else’s image.

From there, the ladies also touch on the disappointment of public figures like Chilli and Nick Cannon, using those examples to ask a bigger question: what do you do when people you once rooted for reveal themselves to be out of alignment with your values?

Jayne’s answer is simple: vote with your feet.

Health & Healing

This week’s Health & Healing centers on disappointment fatigue, boundaries, and the emotional maturity of knowing when not to save people.

Nikki reflects on the reality that some people do not want to be saved, corrected, or called in — and exhausting yourself trying to do so only drains your own peace. Jayne builds on that by naming something many Black women are actively unlearning: the idea that we are responsible for carrying, defending, and rehabilitating everyone around us, even when they are causing harm.

Together, they talk about what it means to let people sit in the consequences of their own choices, to stop overexplaining distance, and to understand that not every apology deserves reentry.

Sometimes healing looks like clarity.

Sometimes it looks like grief.

Sometimes it looks like boundaries.

And sometimes it just looks like leaving.

What’s Good

Nikki highlights Nia DaCosta and Connor Story’s branded horror short, Look Behind You, created in partnership with Verizon. Stylish, sharp, and far more cinematic than anyone might expect from branded content, the short becomes a celebration of creative range, inventive storytelling, and what’s possible when artists are allowed to make something compelling even inside commercial work.

Jayne’s What’s Good is actually a continuation of Nikki’s earlier point about music, but with a specific spotlight on Elmiene, whose forthcoming album Sounds for Someone has her fully locked in. For anyone who misses real soul, vocal depth, and artists who sound like they mean every note, Elmiene remains one to watch.

Final Word

Jayne’s final word:

Hold yourself in loving kindness, care, and compassion — and keep finding new ways to do that.

Nikki’s final word:

When you lose a parent, life doesn’t get harder. It gets bigger.

Show Links:

Claudia Goldin & WNBA

Aminah Jillil Shoes

The Gravest Crime

Naomi Scott's new album

FingerLake TreeHouse by the Maxams

Verizon's Look Behind You Starring Connor Storrie

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and letting the conversation unfold from there. Nikki is busy watching QVC and reflecting on the unexpected entertainment value of daytime television, while Jayne shares a deeper lesson from her own QVC experience — that manifestation requires aiming beyond the moment you think you want, because getting exactly what you asked for is not always the same as arriving where you’re meant to be.

From there, the conversation moves through beauty, Black history, fitness, haircare, loneliness, friendship, truth-telling, and the discipline of choosing yourself again and again.

I See You Girl

Jayne’s I See You Girl goes to Chaka Khan, who at 73 is still glowing, radiant, and completely herself. After hearing Chaka casually reveal that her beauty “secret” is simply slathering her face with oil or heavy lotion before bed, Jayne takes the moment as both a practical skincare tip and a broader reminder that consistency, moisture, and keeping it simple may still be some of the best anti-aging wisdom there is.

Nikki spotlights Biddy Mason, the formerly enslaved woman who became one of the wealthiest Black women in Los Angeles. From winning her freedom in court to building a real estate empire, founding institutions, and leaving behind a legacy of generosity and civic power, Biddy Mason becomes this week’s reminder that Black history is full of women who transformed survival into ownership, influence, and lasting community impact.

What We’re On Right Now

Nikki is currently on Tae Bo with Billy Blanks, rediscovering the joy of old-school workouts that still get the job done. Between YouTube Tae Bo sessions and figure-eight resistance bands, she’s focused on toning, moving with intention, and reconnecting with a kind of fitness that feels fun, effective, and sustainable.

Jayne is on Cécred, Beyoncé’s haircare line, and specifically has her eye on what appears to be a quietly excellent formulation strategy. After trying the Silk Protein Rinse and reviewing the ingredient deck through the lens of her own beauty industry background, she suspects the line may be doing much more than it initially lets on — and is preparing to test the styling products next, wash-and-go included.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne brings a twofer this week, highlighting both Cécred and Grow Good, Cardi B’s newly launched haircare line. With one brand positioned as luxurious and ingredient-forward and the other appearing more affordable and accessible, the ladies are interested in seeing how both lines perform — especially for women on real-life healthy hair journeys.

Nikki spotlights Cedric Mitchell Design, the work of Black glassblower Cedric Mitchell, whose sculptural glassware blends art, function, nostalgia, and what he calls modern funk. His kinetic glasses feel equal parts conversation starter and design object, and the whole collection is a reminder that Black creativity continues to expand the definition of luxury, beauty, and everyday ritual.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Jayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes from a trend she finds both unsettling and deeply sad: people using AI for romance. What begins as a conversation about AI “boyfriends” and digital companionship becomes a broader reflection on loneliness, emotional avoidance, and the ways people are increasingly turning to simulation over actual intimacy. For Jayne, it’s a sharp reminder that AI may be a tool, but it cannot replace the humanity of being seen, challenged, and loved by another real person.

Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the bizarre story involving Alan Ritchson, a bike ride, a neighbor dispute, and a body-cam reveal that changed the whole narrative. What initially looked like one story became another entirely once more footage surfaced, and Nikki is left asking the obvious question: why are people this committed to schemes, setups, and self-inflicted chaos in the first place?

Health & Healing

This week’s Health & Healing centers on a hard truth: not everyone who says they want honesty is actually ready to receive it.

Nikki reflects on a pivotal moment when her father-in-law lovingly but directly called her out for not being present enough with her daughter — a truth that was painful to hear, but powerful enough to change her life. Jayne builds on that by reflecting on the friendships she has lost in the act of being honest with people about their own misalignment, and the courage it takes to tell someone the truth not because you want to hurt them, but because you care enough not to lie.

Together, they explore the difference between judgment and loving accountability, and the rare value of the people willing to tell you when you are falling short of your own standards.

What’s Good

Jayne shouts out Elmiene, the British soul singer whose new album Sounds for Someone is on the way. Blending the emotional texture of artists like Maxwell, Raphael Saadiq, and D’Angelo, Elmiene remains one to watch for anyone craving real voice, real feeling, and a return to musical artistry.

Nikki highlights Alexis Coakley, whose mantra loops have become part affirmation, part soundtrack, part energetic reset. Between the catchy abundance mantras and her discovery of so-called songs that “hack the matrix,” Nikki is fully leaning into sound as vibration, intention, and maybe even a little magic.

Final Word

Nikki’s final word:

Some of you think you need a business mentor when you really need a business midwife. A mentor gives you steps. A midwife helps you deliver.

Jayne’s final word:

I’m choosing me. Every time.

Show Links:

Chaka Khan on Table Manners Podcast

Women's History- Meet Biddy Mason

Resistance Bands Workout

Cedric Mitchell Design Glassware

Elmiene Tiny Desk (You're Welcome)

Alexus Cokley Mantra-Honey Getting Money

Song Matrix Hack

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and setting the tone. Jayne is focused on growing her hair, regulating her sleep, and shortening her manifestation window, while Nikki declares herself busy creating propaganda—the kind rooted in equity, storytelling, and shaping narratives that actually serve people.

From there, the conversation moves through Oscars discourse, Black excellence, mirror work, renesting, AI-fueled innovation, and the emotional labor of reclaiming joy without apologizing for it.

I See You Girl

Jayne’s I See You King goes to Michael B. Jordan, whose Best Actor Oscar win becomes a larger meditation on talent, truth, and what it means to beat the machine. Rather than centering the usual industry narratives, Jayne breaks down how Sinners and its team stayed rooted in the truth of their work—despite the noise, despite the positioning, and despite the systems designed to uplift someone else.

Nikki spotlights Quenlin Blackwell, the internet personality and host whose chaotic, compelling energy made her one of the breakout standouts of Oscars red carpet coverage. Funny, unfiltered, and impossible to ignore, Quenlin becomes a case study in what happens when personality, presence, and platform collide in real time.

What We’re On Right Now

Jayne is currently on re-nesting—the act of intentionally simplifying your life, moving closer to yourself, and rejecting the external trappings of success in favor of healing, focus, and alignment. She reflects on what it means to leave behind peacocking and performance in order to build something quieter, truer, and more sustainable.

Nikki is on mirror work, inspired by a wildly insightful nine-year-old who described the mirror as a gateway to infinite versions of yourself. By whispering affirmations and truths to her reflection, Nikki has found a playful but powerful way to shift her mood, check her energy, and reconnect to herself with intention.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne highlights The Best Man: Unfinished Business, Book One, inviting book clubs to slide into the DMs and invite her and Malcolm D. Lee into their discussions. The response has already been strong, and the authors are eager to join readers in unpacking the story together.

Nikki spotlights The Meridian Club, founded by Nany, a private travel and spa club for women centered on rest, restoration, and low-demand luxury. Built around healing water traditions, pleasure-driven food, and soft community, it’s the kind of wellness concept that feels deeply aligned with the moment.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Jayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes from an unsettling documentary about men who spend thousands renting girlfriends—not for companionship, but for control, compliance, and the illusion of relational ease without another person’s actual humanity. The conversation becomes a sharp examination of entitlement, emotional underdevelopment, and the danger of wanting a relationship without the existence of another will.

Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to Tasha K, following the latest developments in her ongoing legal and financial fallout after losing a defamation case to Cardi B. From alleged asset shielding to a GoFundMe aimed at helping pay the judgment, the situation becomes a case study in consequences, ego, and what happens when sorry could have saved everybody time.

Health & Healing

Jayne offers a powerful word this week: wake up.

Not to fear—but to yourself. To your own truth. To your own story. Using Ryan Coogler and the Sinners campaign as the example, she reflects on what happens when you refuse to let the loudest lie become your reality. If you stay rooted in the truth of your work, your gifts, your effort, and your story, then even the machine eventually has to face what’s real.

Nikki builds on that with a needed reminder: if someone else’s joy makes you uncomfortable, that discomfort is information. Using the reaction to Teyana Taylor’s visible joy as an example, she unpacks how deeply many of us have internalized the policing of Black joy—and how healing requires expanding ourselves, not shrinking other people.

What’s Good

Jayne shouts out the new WNBA collective bargaining agreement, which dramatically increases average salaries, minimum salaries, and revenue share for players. The numbers tell the story clearly: women’s professional basketball has long been undervalued, and this new agreement is a major step toward correcting that.

Nikki highlights a wild but hopeful story out of Australia, where a man used AI and determination to help create a custom vaccine for his dog Rose after a devastating diagnosis. It’s a reminder that technology, used well, can still reflect the best of human ingenuity and love.

Final Word

Nikki’s final word: be blessed.

Jayne’s final word:

Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.

Epsisode Links:

Quenlin Blackwell YouTube Channel

An Article About Why the Loser Lost

Young Mensa Member talks Mirror Work!

Spa Travel Group w. The Meridian Club

Wait, Now They’re Renting Girlfriends?

Man uses to ChatGPT to develop vaccine

New Agreement for WNBA Players

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The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and naming the energy. With the world worlding as usual, Jayne is busy reading up on the latest developments in community collective action, while Nikki enters her birthday month with one clear instruction: talk to her nice.

From there, the conversation moves through brilliance in marketing, creativity, entrepreneurship, internet foolishness, and the quiet power of building a life that doesn’t require over-explaining, over-proving, or begging to be believed.

I See You Girl

Nikki spotlights Dara Treseder, the powerhouse marketing executive currently serving as Chief Marketing Officer at Autodesk. From helping drive Peloton’s explosive growth to turning software into story-driven cultural messaging, Dara is a reminder that the best marketing doesn’t just sell products — it sells identity, possibility, and belonging.

Jayne highlights Viola Davis, who now adds novelist to her already-iconic résumé with the release of Judge Stone, a courtroom thriller co-written with James Patterson. Viola also narrates the audiobook herself, because of course she does — and the hosts reflect on what it means to witness a woman continue to evolve at the highest level of her craft.

What We’re On Right Now

Jayne is currently on facial massage — and not in a frivolous way. After noticing puffiness and fluid retention from travel, stress, and changing routines, she’s been deep in the world of lymphatic drainage and facial massage, discovering just how much a few intentional minutes can shift how you look and feel.

Nikki, meanwhile, is deep in another internet rabbit hole — or rather, several. From “attic lady” and “birthday cake lady” to a wedding canceled under mysterious circumstances and a husband allegedly stranded overseas with his sneaky link, Threads continues to prove itself as one of the most chaotic storytelling platforms on the internet.

The ladies also take a moment to praise Paradise, which Nikki says is doing the rare thing: delivering a season two that may actually be just as strong as the first.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne brings listeners a Black-owned coffee brand: Kahawa 1893, founded by Margaret Nyamumbo, a Kenyan-born entrepreneur who transformed her family’s coffee legacy into a growing business now generating millions in annual sales. Her discovery began with fear-mongering around mycotoxins in coffee and ended in a much more useful place: supporting a Black woman-owned company doing the work right.

Nikki highlights Gracie’s Cakes, the stunning cake artistry business of Ronique Briggs, a Bahamian-born, Ontario-based hyper-realistic cake artist whose sculptural creations are almost too beautiful to cut. Between her Netflix appearance on Is It Cake? and her online courses, this is artistry, entrepreneurship, and sweetness all in one.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Jayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the rollout surrounding Reverend Jamal Bryant's announcement of the conclusion of the latest retail boycott. The hosts unpack whether collective action can simply be declared over, and how accountability, results, and respect are required for the community involved.

Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes out of Bakersfield, California, where a college basketball coach is under investigation for allegedly trafficking women across multiple states while simultaneously serving as an assistant coach. Combined with a separate investigation involving another athletic program at the same school, the hosts raise the larger question: what is happening inside these institutions that are supposed to protect young people?

Health & Healing

This week, Jayne is in a real-time healing space and gives herself permission not to force clarity before it’s ready. Sometimes healing takes longer than a week, and sometimes the healthiest thing to do is to pause, process, and return when there’s something real to say.

Woven throughout the episode is a larger truth: the life you’re building should not require begging — not for respect, not for resources, not for clarity, and not for permission to trust what you already know.

What’s Good

Nikki shouts out Professor Jason Arday, the youngest Black professor in the history of the University of Cambridge — and a man who did not speak until age 11 and did not learn to read and write until age 18. His story is a stunning reminder that timelines are not destiny.

Jayne recommends an episode of Shan Boodram’s Lovers podcast featuring Melissa Ford, centered around the question: What if you never meet the one? The conversation explores wholeness, happiness, decentering men, and the growing cultural shift toward women building lives so full and joyful that partnership becomes an addition — not the point.

Final Word

Nikki’s final word: the universe be knowing. Pay attention.

Jayne’s final word:

If it doesn’t cost you, it won’t change you. Information alone doesn’t change your life — habits do.

Show Links:

Dara Tresseder of Autodesk

Viola Davis is an Author - Judge Stone on Goodreads

Attic Lady

Birthday Cake Lady

Wedding Cancellation Thread

Kahawa 1893 - Black Woman Owned Coffee Company

Jason Arday- Cambridge’s Youngest Professor

Lovers by Shan - Melyssa Ford Episode - What if You Never Find the One

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Jayne shares insights from a week spent between Los Angeles, Palo Alto, and Stanford, including a striking realization after meeting an Uber driver who moved to Silicon Valley through the green card lottery: sometimes success isn’t just about talent or effort — sometimes it’s geography. Being in the right environment, surrounded by people who believe in ideas, can change the trajectory of what’s possible.

Meanwhile Nikki reflects on a packed week in Los Angeles celebrating Black excellence — from producing a Hollywood Confidential fireside chat with legendary actress Loretta Devine to attending celebrations surrounding the NAACP Image Awards, including honoring powerhouse creator Mara Brock Akil.

From culture and creativity to healing and entrepreneurship, the conversation explores what it means to keep moving forward — even when you’re still figuring things out.

I See You Girl

Jayne honors Susan L. Taylor, the legendary former Essence editor-in-chief whose “In the Spirit” column shaped generations of Black women. A recent interview reminded Jayne of Taylor’s powerful message: you already have everything you need for this journey — even the moments when you lose your way.

Nikki spotlights Wilglory Tanjong, founder of luxury handbag brand Anima Iris, who has launched a bold social campaign asking billionaire philanthropist MacKenzie Scott to invest $1 billion into 1,000 Black women founders. The numbers behind Black women entrepreneurship are undeniable — yet the venture capital funding gap remains staggering.

What We’re On Right Now

Nikki shares how somatic exercises have become part of her healing routine while navigating grief. These small, intentional movements help regulate the nervous system and release stress stored in the body.

Jayne breaks down the surprisingly simple routine behind her ongoing body recomposition journey, including daily eggs for complete protein, intermittent fasting, and consistent movement. Her takeaway: sometimes transformation isn’t about extreme measures — it’s about trusting the process and staying consistent.

Mindin’ My Black Business

Jayne highlights Genesis House in Sedona, a beautiful Black woman–owned wellness estate created by Genesis Lafourcade. The retreat blends sound healing, yoga, restorative practices, and intentional design into a luxury healing experience.

Nikki sends New York listeners on assignment: visit Marquette Restaurant in Chelsea, a Caribbean fine-dining concept by Michelin-starred chef India Doris that deserves far more attention from food lovers and creators alike.

Jesus Take the Wheel

Nikki introduces the internet’s newest relationship horror story: “Alpine Divorce.”

The viral term describes people who take their partner on a hike or into nature… and abandon them there instead of simply communicating that the relationship is over.

The hosts have questions. Many questions.

Health & Healing

Nikki reflects on learning to live in what she calls the liminal space — the hallway between the life you’ve left behind and the life you’re building next. It’s uncomfortable, uncertain, and often where the most important growth happens.

Jayne shares a powerful memory of hearing Iyanla Vanzant speak at Agape during a difficult transition in her own life — and the message that stayed with her: sometimes the darkness of the well is preparation for what comes next.

Both hosts reflect on the challenge — and the radical joy — of trusting the process even when the outcome isn’t visible yet.

What’s Good

Jayne introduces listeners to rising neo-soul artist Johnny Burgos, whose smooth sound blends 90s soul with modern R&B.

Nikki celebrates Michael B. Jordan and the cast of Sinners winning at the SAG Awards, adding momentum to the film’s powerful awards-season run.

Final Word

Jayne’s closing reminder: Show love anyway.

Nikki’s reflection: Sometimes the universe asks you to find peace where you are before it moves you forward.

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Show Links:

Wilglory Tanjong x MacKenzie Scott!

Susan L. Taylor Has Always Been That "IT" Woman

Somatic Exercises w. The Workout Witch

Markette Restaurant Review

The Jenesis House in Sedona, Arizona

Alpine Divorce?!?

Brooklyn's Daniel Burgos Gives us NeoSoul Jamiroquai Meets Justin Timberlake

The ladies kick things off celebrating the chaotic brilliance of Threads (because Black History Month online is truly a different universe), then shout out their recent first-ever interview episode with Candice Marie—the woman behind the viral vertical series “Your Type Might Be the Korean Barista Who Don’t Speak English.” If you haven’t watched Episode 52 yet, they make the case: it’s a must.

From there, it’s I See You, Girl time: Jayne spotlights Alexis Barber and her real-world “alignment edit” experience blending ambition, community, and goals—while Nikki celebrates Charm La’Donna, the powerhouse choreographer/creative director behind major halftime show moments (The Weeknd, Kendrick, Beyoncé Bowl, and Bad Bunny).

Then the episode turns—Jesus Take the Wheel is supersized this week. Nikki breaks down why the America’s Next Top Model Netflix documentary stirred up real anger: the show shaped a generation, but the harm was real—and she’s calling out the difference between “it was a different time” and true ownership. Jayne adds her own lens, unpacking a viral roundtable clash as a case study in generational trauma, emotional triggering, and what happens when accountability shows up without safety or context.

In Health & Healing, both hosts get personal: Nikki reflects on moments she stayed silent in non-melanated spaces to feel “chosen,” and Jayne speaks on growth, past relationship patterns, and the journey of reclaiming full humanity beyond checklists. The through-line is clear: healing requires truth—but truth also needs space.

They wrap with what’s good (including an athlete shutting down a ridiculous interview question) and Jayne’s joyful Detroit love letter: the Wright Museum social content is giving mockumentary brilliance and Black culture excellence.

Final Word: “Own it.”

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Show Links:

Charm La’Donna Interview w. The Grio

The Real Origins of Betty Boop

Darnell Davis The Wig Engineer

Eileen Gu, the most decorated female free skier, claps back!

Actor Clifton Powell Takes Accountability But Is Interrupted

Airbnb Does Experiences - Life Edit with Alexis Barber in NYC

But this conversation goes beyond the café.

Candice takes us all the way back—sharing how she first moved to Korea in 2005, what it was like to build a life overseas, and how she’s turned her lived experience into a platform and business helping others move abroad through Shy Girls Fly. She breaks down the difference between leaving to escape and leaving to choose joy, and why many of us don’t realize how much freedom is available on the other side of fear.

A major theme lands with clarity: permission isn’t something you receive—it’s something you decide. Candice shares a line that stopped us in our tracks:

“No one gave me permission… they just didn’t give me limits. So I allowed myself.” (00:41:48–00:42:32)

The conversation moves through community, dating, self-trust, and cultural contrast—especially what it feels like as a Black woman to be in environments where you’re not required to constantly prove your worth. Candice reflects on how energy changes when you’re not spending your life convincing people you’re capable—how that frees you to create, build, and live expansively.

This episode is about:

1. Not waiting to be chosen—choosing yourself
2. The courage it takes to move without consensus
3. Why transition can hurt even when it’s your dream
4. Building community abroad (especially among Black women)
5. A real-time reminder that Black women deserve soft, intentional love—and full lives

They close with a powerful image: when you stop waiting for permission and take the leap anyway, you may find yourself on the other side in “a whole garden” of freedom, acceptance, and possibility. (01:07:27–01:08:39)

Find Candice on Social Media:

@ShyGirlsFly on TikTok

@ShyGirlsFly on Instagram

And on the Web:

www.ShyGirlsFly.com

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With the out-of-office replies still firmly on, the episode centers on a liberating idea: you don’t need more information, permission, or perfect conditions to move forward—you need to recognize when the present moment is already enough. Nikki and Jayne explore how often we postpone peace, clarity, and action while waiting for things to feel safer, clearer, or more resolved, and how much power is reclaimed when you decide that now is your hour.

The conversation moves fluidly through relationships, work, creativity, and culture, naming how hesitation often disguises itself as preparation. Together, the hosts unpack the difference between patience and delay, reflection and avoidance, and how discernment sometimes sounds like a simple, internal yes.

In Health & Healing, the focus turns to nervous system regulation and self-trust. Jayne reflects on how choosing now reduces anxiety by ending endless internal negotiations, while Nikki speaks to the confidence that grows when you stop deferring your own authority. The episode reframes “right timing” as something you participate in—not something you wait to be granted.

The episode also includes:

1. Insight into why clarity often arrives through decision, not contemplation
2. Honest reflection on momentum, maturity, and emotional readiness
3. Cultural observations about productivity, control, and urgency
4. Reminders that power doesn’t always announce itself—it often whispers

They close with a resonant truth: the present moment becomes powerful the instant you choose it.

This is a calm, affirming, culture-forward episode about agency, self-trust, and the radical joy of deciding that now is enough.

Show Links:

Toni Bravo (@bonitravo) | TikTok

Gullah Geeche Wins!

New Life Working Dogs

Dee Starks aka "Granny Love" on Instagram

Non-Alcoholic Sensori (Black Woman Owned)

Usher and Big Sean Invest Big in Detroit's Kids

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This milestone episode centers on emotional closure without permission—what it means to move forward without acknowledgment, accountability, or validation from the people who hurt you. Nikki and Jayne explore how waiting on an apology can quietly tether you to disappointment, keeping your nervous system in negotiation long after the relationship, situation, or season has ended.

The conversation moves through work, relationships, creativity, and cultural dynamics, naming a truth many people avoid: not every harm will be named, and not every wound will be repaired by the person who caused it. But healing doesn’t have to wait.

Together, the hosts unpack how maturity often looks like releasing the fantasy of repair, choosing peace over resolution, and reclaiming energy that’s been stuck in expectation. They talk candidly about how apology culture can sometimes mask avoidance—and how closure is something you can give yourself.

In Health & Healing, the episode reframes forgiveness as a personal decision, not a public performance. Jayne reflects on how self-trust grows when you stop rehearsing conversations that will never happen, while Nikki speaks to the relief that comes from no longer needing someone else to “get it” before you move on.

The episode also includes:

1. Insight into why apologies aren’t always the healing we imagine
2. Honest reflection on grief, accountability, and acceptance
3. Cultural observations on emotional labor and expectation
4. Grounded reminders that peace doesn’t require agreement

They close with a liberating truth: you don’t need an apology to be free—you need clarity.

This is a deeply introspective, culture-forward episode about release, self-trust, and the radical joy of choosing yourself without waiting.

Show Links:

Scientists Prove Discrimination Shortens Lives

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Recorded on MLK Day, this episode moves with intention—blending pop culture, media critique, personal transparency, and community reflection to examine the human cost of silence, especially for Black creators, founders, and artists navigating under-resourced systems. From viral conversations about fashion brand shipping delays to broader industry contractions in publishing, fashion, and media, Nikki and Jayne unpack the difference between accountability and dogpiling—and why outrage so often lands hardest on those closest to us.

A central theme emerges clearly: saying something is hard is not complaining—it’s transparency. Jayne reflects deeply on the cost of being a Black woman creator in industries that benefit from our labor while underfunding our sustainability. She shares personal insight into the emotional, physical, and financial toll of creating work that matters—and how community support, particularly from Black women, has been the difference between burnout and continuation.

Nikki expands the lens, contextualizing current cultural moments—from luxury retail collapses to social media pile-ons—reminding us that not every frustration deserves collective rage, and not every mistake should become a referendum on someone’s worth. Together, they call for a do no harm era: one rooted in discernment, grace, and a healthier relationship to anger.

In Health & Healing, the conversation turns toward solutions. Jayne reframes transparency as a survival tool and a rallying cry, while Nikki introduces “vision boarding in real life”—practicing the life you want now, not waiting for permission later. From touring open houses to normalize abundance, to redefining what belonging actually feels like, the episode offers grounded ways to move forward without abandoning yourself.

The episode also delivers joy and discovery, including:

1. Celebrating innovative Black women founders and creators
2. A thoughtful breakdown of media consolidation and why it matters
3. Food, beauty, and wellness finds worth knowing about
4. Reflections on culture as a survival technology
5. And a reminder that community support has always been our quiet superpower

They close with a powerful truth: our “ouch” is not a complaint—it’s information, and it’s an invitation.

This is a politics-light, culture-forward episode, rooted in healing, discernment, and the radical act of telling the truth about what hurts—together.

Episode Links:

Get Mara’s iWig Here!

Jarrod Jenkins Puts You On!

The Brown Butter Supper Club!

Bodylove by Tal - Magnesium Butter Sleepytime?

Check Out Shirlene Obuobi - Romance Author, Cardiologist, Cartoonist

Jayne Allen's new Camelbelly Substack

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From celebrating small wins (like New York’s new mayor delivering on childcare promises in just eight days) to shouting out women thriving after choosing themselves, the episode is a love letter to momentum, consistency, and doing the work that actually matters.

The conversation weaves through pop culture, politics, and personal growth—touching on viral moments, reality-TV romances, Black-owned beauty brands, and the ways women’s excellence is often undervalued in public life. Nikki breaks down why responsible political commentary matters more than ever, while Jayne reflects on how internalized bias can quietly shape who gets supported—and who gets sidelined.

In the Health & Healing segment, Jayne delivers a powerful reminder: it’s not about January—it’s about consistency. Whether you’re writing a book, rebuilding your body, or trying to change your life, the real transformation comes from showing up again and again, not from perfection. Nikki echoes this with stories of creators who’ve quietly transformed themselves over a year—proof that sustainable change beats crash-and-burn hustle every time.

The episode also brings joy with:

1. A swoon-worthy real-life K-drama about a Korean barista and a shy Black woman
2. A behind-the-scenes peek at Jayne’s new paranormal romance novel
3. Sharp, funny takes on celebrity culture, dating, and why some people stay mad instead of healing

They close with a powerful truth:

Some people aren’t your friends—they just don’t have the confidence to be your enemy.

And a reminder to stop chasing validation from systems that were never designed to recognize your greatness—and start building the life, body, and joy you actually want.

This is a politics-medium episode with some general mentions of politics from a cultural lens and contextualized call for healing! Nothing heavy, this episode is a safe space for self discovery and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Zohran Mamdani Delivers on Universal Childcare Promise

Meghan’s As Ever is a HUGE success!

Druski’s Megachurch Sketch got some folks upset

Miche Beauty Has a Viral Winner With Anti-Humidity Gel

Cam Newton Creates a New Word and Way to Spell

Maybe Your Type is a Korean Barista?

Amber Desiree and her baby bump journey

The best way to measure progress is to interview yourself?

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In this heartfelt conversation filled with laughter and insights, Nikki T and Jayne Allen reflect on the new year, discussing personal growth, inspiration from successful figures, and the importance of self-care and recovery. They share stories of overcoming challenges, the significance of supporting black-owned businesses, and the value of mindfulness practices like Qigong. The discussion emphasizes the entrepreneurial spirit and the need for community support, making it a motivating and insightful episode for listeners looking to embrace 2026 with positivity and purpose.

The episode educates on the importance of supporting Black entrepreneurship and the challenges faced by Black-owned businesses, including the particular need for community support. They explore representation in various fields, including aviation, and the significance of embracing new opportunities. The conversation shifts to personal growth, navigating career transitions, and the lessons learned from achievements and dissatisfaction.

They emphasize the importance of choosing joy as a strategy and developing a healthy relationship with anger, ultimately encouraging listeners to reflect on their own journeys and aspirations.

Learn about:

1. Why it's important to take risks and put yourself out there
2. Investing in workout recovery
3. Mindfulness practices like Qigong and its role in emotional healing.
4. Why supporting black-owned businesses is crucial for community growth.
5. How Black-owned businesses face unique challenges in funding and resources.
6. Why Choosing joy should be a strategy, not just a reward.
7. How Developing a healthy relationship with anger is essential for self-awareness.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode with few uncomfortable topics, and a heavy dose of healing! A safe space for self discovery and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Kayla Rowe’s Her Fantasy Box

Continue and Win QiGong Exercises

Protect CurlMix Hair Care Product Bundles

Look Up Flight Academy

OMGAdrian’s made a Birkin for his GF!

Tunde Oyeneyin in Coveteur

Business Ideas on CNBC's Make It YouTube Channel

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In this engaging conversation, Nikki T and Jayne Allen explore a variety of themes, from the joy of holiday music (and the disturbing history of one of our favorite songs) to the importance of long-form expression in today's media landscape. They discuss the historical context of "Jingle Bells," celebrate trailblazers like Jennifer Jones, and delve into the significance of supporting black-owned businesses. The conversation also touches on personal health, the challenges of success, and the need for healing in a fast-paced world. With humor and insight, they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for the new year of 2026 to come.

Learn about:

• Robert Glasper's version of 'Joy to the World' is a favorite.
• The origins of 'Jingle Bells' that reveals an uncomfortable truth.
• Lizzo's new Substack in a brave move to long-form.
• How Jennifer Jones broke barriers as the first black Rockette.
• The Harlem Candle Company and its unique Holiday gift offerings.
• The Innovative dental care that can change our brushing habits.
• What to Expect in Season 2 of the Telepathy Tapes Podcast
• How Humming can stimulate the vagus nerve and promote calmness.
• What it means to be "Dysfunctionally Successful" and how to avoid it
• Thoughts on leaving behind dogma to lead to greater peace.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-medium episode with some uncomfortable topics, but heavy on the healing! A safe space for self discovery and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Jingle Bells origins

Becoming Spectacular by Jennifer Jones

Harlem Candle Company

3-in-1 Toothbrush

Lizzo's Substack

Telepathy Tapes Season 2

Sherrone Moore 

Somalis Gain Support after being called “Garbage" by Trump

The Story of the Heart Shaped Ring

Oprah on Protecting Your Energy

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Learn about:

1. Creating Opportunities for Yourself
2. Our takes on the Diddy Documentary
3. How Meghan Markle Sussex Owns the Holidays
4. What the Netflix Warner merger could mean for Hollywood and Independent Creators
5. Feel good father/daughter dance vibes
6. How to make the Holidays your Own Rather than Living Up to Expectations

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Meghan Markle Holiday Special Trailer

Admiral Alvin Holsey Resigns

Sean Combs: The Reckoning Trailer

Pierre LaBorde Bags

Daddy Daughter Dance at Angola Prison Documentary

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Learn about:

1. The power of Gratitude
2. How externally-imposed beauty standards affect our lives
3. Quick gift ideas from black-owned businesses
4. How Oprah served hot tea to haters
5. What to do for opportunity instead of waiting for the phone to ring

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

You, Me and Tuscany Trailer

Macys Thanksgiving Day Parade

Estelle Colored Glass

Essence Celebrates Miss Cote d’Ivoire

Oprah Shows Us (Again) How To Address Haters

Leslie Odom Tells Us What To Do When the Phone Isn’t Ringing for You

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Learn about:

• The fitness influencers you should really be following
• What's really good at the Brandy and Monica Boy is Mine Tour
• How to get an entertaining and essential history lesson in 10 minutes or less
• What's happening in the world of diamonds
• What's good to watch on Netflix?

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Sheryl Grant - 63 Year Old Fitness Influencer

TK Wonder 100+ Pound Weight Loss at 47 Years Old

Brandy and Monica on Tour!

PBS Origins: American History Done Right!

Botswana and Angola in talks to own DeBeers

Baby Formula Church Experiment

Everything Does Not Deserve Your 100 Percent

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In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Humanoid for Sale!

The Luncheon Lawyer

Africa’s Most Ambitious Project Yet!

Fmr Vice President Kamala Harris on Diary of a CEO Podcast

Donate to Heretic Coffee

Audiobooks, Walking, and Community

Little Debbie is the Devil

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Join Nikki T and Jayne as they explore various themes including health and healing, the significance of HBCU homecomings, the impact of fashion through designers like Grace Wells Bonner, and the legacy of Misty Copeland. They also discuss the recent robberies in Europe, the societal implications of reality TV, and the importance of affirmations in reshaping one's mindset. The episode concludes with reflections on travel dreams and the idea of blowing up one's life for personal growth.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Meg Thee Stallion's Lover Girl Era

Graces Wales Bonner’s new job!

The Louvre Heist

Picasso Missing

The Halo Braid

Your Brain Believes What You Repeat

Venice-Simplon Orient Express Train

Black Woman finds Korean Mom after 40 years!

Blow Up Your Life!

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Join Nikki T and Jayne as they explore various themes including the impact of loss, the importance of voting rights, and the celebration of body positivity. They reflect on the significance of representation in politics, particularly through the lens of Janai Nelson's work. The conversation also touches on the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, the power of inclusivity in fashion, and the joy found in lighthearted content. Additionally, they discuss the importance of self-care, setting boundaries, and the need to step back for mental health. The episode concludes with a celebration of their 40th episode and a reminder to allocate responsibilities appropriately.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Janai Nelson Makes First Supreme Court Argument to Protect the Vote

Angel Reese Makes History at Victoria's Secret Fashion Show

Save Your Relationship with a Couples Offsite

Kosmothetalkingcat

Trey Songz gives OT Genasis Singing Lessons

Brewers fan loses job after saying “Call Ice” to a dodger fan during game

Aaliyah Doll Returns!

Man signing in an accent when he doesn’t have one

Nia Long and Larenz Tate Re-Team for Another Big Screen Lovestory?

Khiry x J Crew Jewelry Collection

Teens Are In Love With AI?

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Join Nikki T and Jayne as they explore themes of self-empowerment, the importance of self-sufficiency for women, and the impact of societal expectations on personal happiness. They celebrate Tracy Ellis Ross for her single life and Melissa Butler for her success with The Lip Bar. The conversation also delves into the toxicity of reality TV relationships, the significance of vulnerability in love, and the challenges of comparison in the entertainment industry. They highlight the entrepreneurial spirit of women like Pinky Cole and discuss the importance of defining personal success on one's own terms.

Overall, the episode is a heartfelt reminder of the power of owning your own unique journey.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Tracee Ellis Ross Explains Why She's Single...Yet Again

Melissa Butler’s Lip Bar is a success despite Target boycott

AI Covers!

Hello Beauty by Chantal Francis

Slutty Vegan is Now a Franchise Opportunity

Alexis Ohanian Claps Back

@ItsDrew on Instagram

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Join Nikki and Jayne as they discuss a variety of topics ranging from community celebration, what shapes our self-perception, and the importance of grounding in nature. They discuss the significance of uplifting black women in media, share personal experiences from a recent trip to Valle de Guadalupe, and emphasize the need for acknowledgment and encouragement in creative spaces. The conversation also touches on the impact of shame on self-esteem and the importance of writing down dreams to manifest them. Overall, the episode is a heartfelt reminder of the power of community and self-love.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

The Root goes back to its Roots

Jayne Kennedy Overton's New Memoir

Mes Amis Toys

Discover Valle de Guadelupe

Mayor Bowser gets called out

Critical Mom Holding External Standards Against Daughter

3BRAND By Ciara and Russel Wilson Does $100 Million

Iconic Girlfriends Dinner/Celebrating Mara Brock Akil

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Join Nikki and Jayne as they discuss a variety of topics ranging from Kayla Nicole's empowering performance at a Chris Brown concert to Mackenzie Scott's philanthropic efforts and Cardi B's new album. They also touch on skincare tips, the revolutionary M-Pesa service in Africa, the censorship controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel, and the importance of recognizing mental health struggles. The episode concludes with a celebration of art and community contributions, emphasizing the need for trust and self-care.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Kayla Nicole Does it For Us All With Chris Brown

Mackenzie Scott & HBCUs

Am I The Drama by Cardi B

Clinique Vitamin C Face Wash Powder

M-pesa

Harmonia Rosales’ Unbound

Fabio Gomes Trindade's Art

Black Women and Quiet Cracking

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Join Nikki and Jayne as they discuss the importance of self-appreciation, the impact of stress on health, and the power of setting boundaries. They also explore the dynamics of cultural contributions and the significance of healing within the community.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-light episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Temi’s wedding(s)

Heather Cox Richardson on POD SAVE America

Black Girl Hug Experience Cards

Margs explains why he fired Ginga Jay

Nike x Agbobly at NYFW

Tulsa Remote

No Idea She Was Pregnant

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In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Meditation and Mindfulness in Baltimore Schools

Taylor Townsend is That Girl

Picnics by Peace

Dwight Williams 76 and Fit!

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The ladies are back with their regular segments, focusing this week's episode on the importance of building community as a source of radical joy. Also, the co-hosts discuss joy itself as a survival tool. Nikki T is still a card-carrying NicOlandrian and you can expect an update on the latest, including when is the best time this week to shop for Costco gas.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Why Watermelon is SO Good For You

A $100 Apple?

Steph the Founder - Startup Jobs

Race Against Time: Hurricane Katrina

“The Next Uber” Series by Steph the Founder

Amanda Seales on Jubilee

34 Senses?

Tamia Can't Get Enough Line Dance

Namibian Teacher Private Parts Song

Ciara's Prayer Strategy

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The ladies are back with the regular segments, but with an ongoing focus on new ideas for the future, including entrepreneurship as a career strategy (i.e., buying rather than building your next job), places to go if you'd like to become an ex-pat, and AI as a relationship counselor? Also, there is guaranteed to be at least one mention of NicOlandria as only Nikki T can be counted on to deliver.

In this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a completely politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Alice Augusta Ball

Blair Cadet in Serbia

SBA on Buying An Existing Business or Franchise

Small Business Administration (SBA) 7(a) Loan Information

Titus O'Neal on Kings Court Discussing Trauma

Sherri Shepherd on Journee Smollett Divorce

Black Aliens?

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The ladies are back with the regular segments, but with yet another a supersized Health and Healing that celebrates each of the co-hosts working to bring about a personal "gilded age" in her own life. Not only is Nikki T a card-carrying member of the NicOlandria fan club, but she is also a "Gildie" as a member of the Gilded Age fan hive. You'll learn a lot, laugh quite a bit, and leave with some valuable insight to start off your week.

Also, this episode, like always, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Anna Murray Douglas (First Wife to Frederick Douglas) Watch the Breakdown

Emelyn Stuart Opened a Movie Theater

Olivia Dean "Be My Own Boyfriend" in London Jazz Cafe

Buy Your Next Job

The Original Shoulder Strap Bookmark

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The ladies are back with the usual segments, but with a supersized Health and Healing this time focused on dating differently. Actually, this episode is just a little different itself because both of the co-hosts decided to share deeply this week--as we all know by now that Nikki T is a card-carrying NicOlandrian. But the cultural moment caused by the couple delivers so much food for thought and has been inspiring a much needed conversation, particularly amongst black women about "dating differently" to get the soft love, soft life, romance that we desire.

Also, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

The Best Man Unfinished Business on Ratchet & Respectable with Demetria Lucas

Jacquelyn Joyce 

Gwyneth Paltrow for Astronomer

Thomas Morgan - 70+ and FIT

Judgey Series with Amber Singletary

Nadine’s Hair Braiding

Storehouse Voices Book Manuscript Submission Page

Shannon Sharpe Retirement Plan

Ralph Lauren Oak Bluffs

NicOlandria - The Movie

Benin Grants Citzenships to all descendants of the slave trade!

Jeremiah 29:11 Quick Reference

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The ladies are back with the usual segments, plus a supersize dose of NicOlandria and why this is particularly healing for black women.

Also, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Protect Yourself from Scammers! Take 9

Red Lobster's Comeback

Don't Crash Out Song

Lore Bookstore

Relax Max Supplement

Nicolandria Core

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The ladies are back after a week away, with a full recap of Essence Fest, and Jayne Allen's adventures so far on The Best Man Unfinished Business Book tour being "booked" and busy. We talk about about some insights from conversations on manhood that came from the "men folk" who dropped into the DC tour events.

Nikki T gives her "Love Island" recommendation for "What's Good."

Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated 2025 Honorary Members

The Best Man Unfinished Business NYC Recap

Essence Fest Recap

The Best Man Unfinished Business DC Recap

The Best Man Unfinished Business Book Tour Remaining Dates

Glizzy Street Dogs

12pm studios

Woman to Woman on Threads

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This is another poignant and impactful "hour of power" shared with your co-hosts talking about life transitions and how you can make sure that your best years are always still ahead of you. This episode is truly the break you need from the madness, to reset your mind and spirit with higher vibe than when you started. If inner peace had a podcast, this would be it. Again, the co-hosts go deep, make it personal, and get transparent on the challenges of life that led them each to understand what it means to say "I get to choose differently this time."

Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, share another black-owned business discovery, and provide their thoughts on the cultural happenings we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

The Blueprint! (Sigin Ojulu)

Captain Theresa Claiborne

Chante Moore and The Bodysuit

Mama Duke "Feels So Good To Be You!"

Tyra Banks’ Mommy and Ice Cream

Jordan Armstrong’s It Girl Season

Zippy!

How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie

Harlem Black Excellence in the 70’s

Drink Sensori!

The Guru!

Michelle/Facelift in Mexico

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This is a powerful can't miss episode: the co-hosts go deep, make it personal, and get transparent on the challenges of life that led them each to understand what it means to say "my best is enough." Nikki and Jayne explore what rest looks like, particularly for black women, when it is time to take a break, or as Jayne Allen says, "Perhaps now is the time to cry."

Share the challenges and the celebrations as Jayne also gets candid on her latest ChatGPT prompts for the most incredible manifestation tool you'll have to try for yourself to believe.

Nikki T shares her fun finds and insights like Suit-jitsu, another fantastic black beauty brand, the new club she's joined, and tells listeners who she might have become if she had stopped caring sooner.

Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. This is a mostly politics-free episode and a safe space for healing, self discovery, and the personal pursuit of radical joy.

Episode Links:

Beyonce Fans in Paris 

When The Music Hits by Amber Oliver

Hoda Kotb’s ChatGPT Prompts for Manifesting

AI gone wrong

Beenie Man Tiny Desk Concert

We Do Not Care Club 

Suit Jitsu

Sabrina Elba's Sable Labs Quasil Exfoliating Mask

Florae Beauty

Career Therapist

AI done right!

The War and Treaty in Concert

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Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Episode Links:

Coco Gauff wins French Open

Ananda Lewis :(

Harvard Standard Time

Rachel Chinouriri-Never Need Me

Malcolm Gladwell Reviews "Unforgiving Places" book

Jamie Foxx Tribute

Davida Selby - Kate, Lynn & Adwoa

Solo Scoop Creamery!

Tix for The Best Man Book Tour!

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Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Episode Links:

Nijaree Canady 

Patricia Sias Ellis Graduates College at 79 Years Young

Cécile McLorin Salvant - NPR Tiny Desk

Cécile McLorin Salvant - Ghost Song Live

Black Music History Month Facts!

The Laughing Song from George W. Johnson (1890)

Capital City Mambo Sauce in Costco

Demetria Lucas Does Capetown and Takes Us Along

Birthday outfit crashout

Tenickab blocks friend

Natasha Rothwell isn't Waiting to Live Her Best Life

Gen Z docs FTW! 

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Jayne finally surprises Nikki T with a new I See You Girl discovery. Nikki T gives us wonderful food for thought and a new challenge during Health and Healing - "Sandpaper People" anyone? Listen to discover the new phrase you'll be using when someone starts tapping on that very last nerve. Plus, sugar-free rosé? Yes, please! Check out Nikki T's latest irresistible find during What I'm On Right Now. Health and Healing takes a beautiful turn into a powerful discussion between the co-hosts about Radical Faith being really just a journey of incremental faith. You'll have to listen to get it and it's worth every minute.

Plus, this week, like every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack. Ahem, the Diddy Trial? Yes. That too.

Episode Links:

Teyana Taylor is Having a MOMENT with Her Visual Album Trailer

Akialh Releford Gould and Bloom Ranch

What about that sugar-free rosé though? (We got you!)

Homeworthy - Your newest addiction on YouTube

Did you say power outage in Spain? In the whole country region?

Savannah Space Kenya

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Jayne talks about her new exercise regimen and the daily time she allocates to herself while Nikki T gives an update on her skincare regimen to address her hyperpigmentation. This all dovetails nicely into the co-hosts discussion of time and taking time for yourself. Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Minding My Black Business

Jesus Take The Wheel

Health and Healing

and

A super thought-provoking Final Word with food for thought until next week!

Episode Links:

Truesdale Time Machine (Dr. Carl Truesdale)

Discoloration Defense

Youth to the People

The Best Man Book - Free Chapter Pre Order

Jamal Roberts Greatest Hits

DexterMimsJr Cutting up

Black Men Saying Goodnight

World's First Sperm Race

Supporting Black Business - Concept of "Fargin"

Throwback Hamilton on Youtube

Dexter Simms Jr. - When the Video Doesn't Match the Song

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Jayne talks about leaving LA and Nikki T gives an update on her health journey. Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Minding My Black Business

Jesus Take The Wheel

Health and Healing

and

A super thought-provoking Final Word with food for thought until next week!

Episode Links:

Africa Magic Viewer's Choice Awards

Chocolate Cottage Cheese Ice Cream

Pam shows us how to adult

Stay at Home Daughter

Imani Ellis on She's So Lucky Podcast

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Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Minding My Black Business

Jesus Take The Wheel

Health and Healing

and

A super thought-provoking Final Word with food for thought until next week!

Episode Links:

OneStrongBrotherhood

Tia Mowry Living Her Best Life as Usual

Dominique "I don't believe in suffering" Defoe

Big Hoops to Fill!

In Your Eyes Remix Dance Trend #1

In Your Eyes Remix Dance Trend #2

In Your Eyes Remix Dance Trend #3

Ibrahim Traoré Military Coup

Canva Code

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Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Minding My Black Business

Jesus Take The Wheel

Health and Healing

and

A super thought-provoking Final Word with food for thought until next week!

Episode Links:

Dr. Toyin Ajayi

Ryan Coogler on Democracy Now!

USA Today on Nigerian artist Kelani Fatai

Michel Martin Interview with Tina Knowles on NPR (Free Coding course for beginners)

Tina Knowles Matriarch Book tour

Stanford's Code In Place Program (Free Coding course for beginners)

Chip Conley on Becoming a Beginner Again

Miles Caton learning the guitar for Sinners

Coogler's decision to make the character "Remmick" Irish

Two Friends ended up dating the same guy!

Chidi of Luxetribes is opening a resort in Morocco!

States and Canadian Provinces that Offer Licensed Naturopathic Doctors

Time 100 List 2025

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Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Minding My Black Business

Jesus Take The Wheel

Health and Healing

and

A super thought-provoking Final Word with food for thought until next week!

Episode Links:

Sheryl Lee Ralph

The Telepathy Tapes Podcast

South African Antartica

Los Hermanos Tequila

Time 100

Lisa Grain , French Barrelettes and the Wedding at the Compound

Diary of a CEO Podcast Episode on Nitric Oxide

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Episode Links:

The Best Man Book and Playlist!

Tim Wise

Visit Mallorca

Camp Yoshi!

Plant-Based Hair Extensions - Rebundle

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Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments this week include:

I See You Gurl

Minding My Black Business

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately! - No Gatekeeping here)

Health and Healing

What's Good

Jesus, Take the Wheel,

and, the usual close of a powerful Final Word to last you through another week.

Show Links:

(Final Word) Generational Curse

Anne Lowe

Riri Grahamm

Michelle Garabito aka The Lux Nomad

Chris Viaud

Corey Booker's Epic Speech on the Senate Floor

Plants That Clear the Air According to NASA

Pinky Cole and Slutty Vegan

Bread Beauty Supply Acquisition News and Company Film

Never Saw Me Coming by Tanya Smith

Every week, the ladies catch each other up on their life discoveries, what their "algorithm" has shown them, and their thoughts on the cultural happenings that we've all seen and desperately need to unpack.

Segments include:

I See You Girl

What I'm On Right Now (aka Tell Me Immediately!)

Life in Delulu Land

A super thought-provoking Health and Healing

Minding My Black Business

and

Jesus Take the Wheel

Episode Links:

Luke Ranieri on the full Destinos language-learning background

Destinos Episodes (Learn Spanish for free with a special Telenovela Series)

Digital "Green Book"

People of Color Beauty Nail Polish Gift Sets

Jacque Carrington's post about People of Color Beauty

Descending the Corporate Ladder

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Anthony Mackie as Captain America on (Re)Defining Success

Envy vs. Jealousy and Staying Sane on Social Media

The End of an Era

How to Continue to Support (Black) Businesses During the Retail and Shopping Boycotts

Plus, big laughs and interesting information in usual segments:

I See You Gurl

Jesus Take the Wheel

Minding My Black Business

What's Good

Health and Healing

The new: Happy Times in Delulu Land!

and a Final Word that will give you food for thought for the week ahead.

Show Links:

Black Vegan Man

Diana Salazar Méndez

Jennifer Lewis Storytime

Grow w. Jo

Alodia Haircare

Anthony Mackie on THE PIVOT (Success)

Colman Domingo Love Story

Learn the Tamia Can't Get Enough Line Dance (Finally)

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This week, the co-hosts catch each other up on their respective discoveries for the week, including Nikki T's take on With Love, Meghan, the new Netflix offering from the newly-minted "Meghan Sussex" as she delights us all from Planet Montecito with her country kitchen, sprawling acreage, and of course- the bees. And Jayne Allen shares her discovery of a "Joy Bubble" that has changed the way she experiences her days, and also tells us how the Statue of Liberty, is actually standing on business.

Plus, big laughs and interesting information in usual segments:

I See You Gurl

Jesus Take the Wheel

Minding My Black Business

What's Good

Health and Healing

and a Final Word that will give you food for thought for the week ahead.

Show Links:

With Love, Meghan on Netflix

Dr. Joy DeGruy on the Statute of Liberty and Her Website

Mara S. Campo interviewing James Rogers from Consumer Reports

School of Hard Knocks Interview with TJ (Todd Johnson)

Stanford University Code In Place Free Coding Course

Infinity Song

Lady Gaga's New "Mahem" Album

Troye Sivan

Dr. Joe Dispenza (On Diary of a CEO Podcast) and how memory works

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This episode highlights some of the red carpet high-points from awards season, the Consumer Reports report on toxicity in braiding hair extensions, black businesses to support, and food for thought.

You will definitely laugh in this episode and leave replenished with your heart full and a smile on your face.

Segments Include:

I See You Gurl

Jesus Take the Wheel

Minding My Black Business

What I'm on Right Now

Health and Healing

What's Good

And of course, our Final Word

And if you heard something in the podcast you'd like to explore further, we got you! The Show Links are below.

Show Links:

Doecii at DSquared

Follow Joy Ried on Instagram

The Creation Frequency Book

Good Girl Chocolates

Demetria Lucas on the end of Respectability Politics

Flying Cars

Ashley Raeneil - AAC Bible Translation and Donation Page

Bolu Babalola - Sweet Heat New Book

Nozipho Tshabalala - On Leadership Lessons

Luvvie's Quote - Trust in Ease

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Segments include:

I SEE YOU GIRL - The hosts shout out the faves of the week doing big positive things that you may not have heard about yet, but definitely should know about.

WHAT I'M ON RIGHT NOW - In the month of Feburary, the co-hosts are especially on important topics in Black History and meaningful thoughts for Black Future.

MINDING MY BLACK BUSINESS - This week is a focus on Black-founded hair extension companies for irritation-free braids of all types at at all price points. Also, Jayne Allen breaks down the importance of the Black Bookstore Coalition's new Bestseller List and how you can help amplify books by black authors.

HEALTH AND HEALING - This is a Special segment that you don't want to miss. Nikki T talks about the lesser known "Law of Attention" and Jayne Allen talks about the importance of knowing what we're healing from so that we can decide what learned and passed-down behaviors we definitely don't want to keep.

And as always the ladies kick off the show with each of their Out of Office Replies - saying it for you when you can't, and of course, the Final Word as food for thought until the next time we all join the group chat.

Show Links:

Courtney Sanders

Blessed Little Bungalow - Amber Guyton

Janelle Monae's New Project - Never Saw Me Coming (Book Link)

We Don't Always Agree Podcast

Rebundle Plant Fiber Braiding Hair

Gyal Braiding Hair

9 Learned Behaviors Rooted In Slavery

Black Bookstore Coalition Bestseller List (Pls post on social, share, and amplify!)

Also, Jayne Allen highlights new February book releases and Nikki T shares her secrets for the perfect matte finish makeup.

Plus, this episode contains a super-charged "Minding Our Black Business" segment with two black-owned fashion companies you'll definitely want to know about.

Find out what's up and what's good in regular segments: What's Good, What I'm On Right Now, and Health and Healing.

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Show Links:

Kendrick Lamar's Superbowl Halftime Show

Don Julio x Popeye's Chicken Collab

Hanifa

Corine (The Bookmark Bag Strap)

Russell Hartley

Adore Me Lingerie Fashion Show

Glucose Doctor (Dr. Benjamin Bikman) On Diary of a CEO

You, Uninterrupted - Felicia Hatcher

The word for this week is officially, "Delusional." The ladies start "Onijah"-watch and discuss the discovery of the incredibly wondrous journey of our new favorite social media reality show courtesy of Ms. (or Mrs.) Onijah Robinson.

Also, the lades place a focus on "Minding my Black Business" with an inspirational celebration of businesses with Black founders and ownership, including the story of The Storygraph app creator Nadia Odunayo. Despite Jayne's best efforts, she completely mispronounced Ms. Odunayo's last name, but will make corrections next episode! Check out the Storygraph in the show links.

Nikki T shares a "Black Fact" for Black History Month and Jayne shares a Black Future meditation.

And finally, the ladies discuss Doecii's win at the Grammys and what do in Los Angeles if you want to live out your own rockstar/rap star/DJ delusions.

Everyone says "fake it 'till you make it," but who knew that delusion was the way to your epic 2025 next level glow up?

Make sure to like and subscribe to this podcast so you never miss an episode!

Episode Links:

Doechii manifesting => LINK

Doechii breaking down her creative business plans => LINK

Dr. Jessica Maria Johnson's Substack Essay - Must Read => LINK

Spend one day in delusion Inspo => LINK

Onijah Robinson in Pakistan => LINK

Sweet Ginger Vapor Rub => LINK

The Storygraph and Nadia Odunayo => LINK

The conversation is spontaneous and fresh, but creates a true highlight in the ladies' discussion of black business and carving a new path forward despite the events of the current landscape and environment.

Other segments include, "What's Good" and "Health and Healing" plus a special affirmation for listeners at the end.

You'll leave this episode feeling uplifted, hopeful, and ready for the week ahead!

Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!

Show Links:

Blue Telusuma on Black Business and DEI "Rollbacks"

Kellis in Africa!

The Women Stealing the Show at Pitti Uomo 107

Hillmantok University Info

Hillmantok University Official Website

Salad Tower

Dr. Boz's Sardine Fast

Rich Homie Kwanza's White Excellence Wednesday

Everything is Working Out For Me

The co-hosts talk about chasing your dreams, what it looks like to pursue your dream career, and how to write a new story for yourself. Nicole uses her own story to provide the blueprint she used for creating the career and life she always wanted.

Episode Segments:

I See You Girl

What I'm on Right Now

What's Good

Health and Healing

Final Word

Links:

Casey Gerald on Morning Joe - https://www.instagram.com/p/DCSBjDGSsFF/

Bill Weir's Segment on the Eco-Conscious Palisades Home that Did Not Burn

Glamour Magazine on Michelle Obama Staying Home - https://www.instagram.com/p/DE8YqJpxk27/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Faith Chappelle on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/faithchappelle/

Kev on Stage Favorite Units of Black Measurement

Costco Membership with Cash Card - https://www.groupon.com/deals/n-costco-membership

Fermented Iron Complex - https://newchapter.com/products/iron-complex?srsltid=AfmBOoppQ6KN6kwJDrS5QV_HUAIKChnuCoSHRe0NxBO7x7YDdop4xrD6

Dr. Boz on Keto Diet - https://www.instagram.com/drboz_annettebosworthmd/

Casey Gerald on Living a Big Beautiful Life - https://www.instagram.com/p/CQb0v9xr9XT/

#JOMOin2025

A great conversation as usual - some highlights for this episode include:

I See You Girl - New Year/Holiday Hangover Edition (Simone Biles Owens, Congrats to Zendaya and Tom, Golden Globes Lewks)

What I'm On Right Now - Jayne's Era of Being Uncomfortable and Looking Amazing

Jesus Take the Wheel - DEI Rollbacks and the power of the Black Amercian Dollar.

What's Good - TV, Streaming, and Film Recs

Health and Healing

And Final Word

Links:

Air Light Pro Dryer

Zendya and Issa Rae on her Rebranding Through Fashion

Switching Tasks for Creatives - Video

Black Art In the Absence of Light - Documentary

65-Year-Old Pullup Legend

Los Angeles Fires - Donation Center - Walk Good LA Yard

Pluto TV - UPN Content Library

Links:

Anwar Dating Coach

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDIXm4DsCjC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Coach Kev

https://www.instagram.com/fromcasualtoserious?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Diary of CEO w. Jaspreet Singh

The Savings Expert: Are You Under 45? You Won't Get A Pension! Don't Buy A House! - Jaspreet Singh

Links:

Writer-Friendly OPI Press On Instant Manicure:

https://www.ulta.com/p/xpresson-metallic-mega-mix-press-on-nails-collection-pimprod2047823?sku=2628754

Alice Randall's New Book - "My Black Country":

https://bookshop.org/p/books/my-black-country-a-journey-through-country-music-s-black-past-present-and-future-alice-randall/20793013?ean=9781668018408

"Dough Dash" YouTube Channel

https://youtu.be/AfTaJ4Y_Nfk?si=C2WO4AjTKCZ0KULr

"Radical Acceptance" - Dr. Shanté

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCFQfqZSfGt/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

The Good Shepherd - Wesley Adii on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCCGAQOMRjA/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Tavis Smiley - Jayne Allen Interview

https://www.youtube.com/live/OBJZ-q3jOq8?feature=shared

Hassan Hates Portland

(https://www.instagram.com/hasaanhatesportland/?hl=en)

Episode Links:

CEO of Your Own Sh*t:

https://eshap.substack.com/p/ceo-of-your-own-sht

Nia Moore- Private Jet Flight Attendant/Content Creator:

https://www.instagram.com/therealniamoore/

California Wine Advent Calendar:

https://ingoodtaste.com/products/boisset-collection-advent

Eric Adjepong's Elimina Restaurant:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2024/10/24/star-chef-eric-adjepong-is-opening-an-upscale-ghanaian-restaurant-in-dc/

Links to Topics Mentioned:

Haka on the floor of the Legislature: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCZ8j9uPxJm/

Jodie Turner-Smith @ MTV EMA

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mYyX1xehWeY?app=desktop

Black Dollar Index

https://blackdollarindex.com/

Meet Me Next Christmas Netflix Holiday Movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdGiO-zZC_o