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In this episode, we’re digging back into a conversation with Ed Engle, one of the longtime voices in fishing and tying small flies.

Ed has spent decades fishing technical trout water, and his approach is less about making things complicated and more about getting the fundamentals right.

We’re pulling out 14 of Ed’s best tips for fishing small flies, including why size comes before color, how close you should get to feeding trout, and why a longer leader isn’t always the answer.

You’ll also hear how Ed reads a trout’s position in the water before making a cast, why he wants an unweighted nymph somewhere in his rig, and how he uses movement when fishing small BWO nymphs.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

• Why you shouldn’t fish a smaller fly than the trout require
• Why simple patterns can be so effective in tiny sizes
• Why Ed often sticks with a 9- to 10-foot leader instead of going extra long
• How to adjust your hook set when presenting a dry fly downstream
• How Ed swings small wet flies to rising trout
• Why BWO nymphs don’t always need to be dead-drifted
• How a weighted fly can help an unweighted nymph move naturally
• What a trout’s vertical position tells you about whether it’s actively feeding
• Why actually seeing your tiny dry fly matters
• How to make your fly the first thing a trout sees
• Why slack-line casts become so important on technical water
• How the way a trout rises to your fly can tell you whether your presentation is right
• Why Ed wants to get as close to a trout as possible without changing its behavior
• Why matching the size of the natural is Ed’s #1 priority

Ed’s approach comes back to simplicity. When you find the natural insect, start by figuring out its size. Get that right first. If your fly also comes close in color and silhouette, even better but size is where Ed starts.

We’ll also hear why Ed believes small-fly fishing is ultimately about having as little as possible between you and the fish.

If you fish midges, BWOs, tricos, technical tailwaters, or selective rising trout, this episode gives you 14 ideas you can take straight to the water.

Presented by: Fly Fish with me Utah, FishHound Expeditions, Drifthook Fly Fishing

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Kara Knight is a steelhead angler, casting instructor, longtime lodge professional, and competitive caster based in British Columbia. We get into the Dean, Spey-O-Rama, steelhead conservation, casting practice, competition gear, and the lessons Kara has picked up from years spent around some of BC’s great steelhead rivers.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/976

Presented by: Gallatin River Lodge

Ask ten Montana anglers where to fish, and you’ll probably hear ten different answers. Every now and then, someone points you toward a stretch that still feels a little overlooked. Today, we’re heading into southwest Montana for some Gallatin River fly fishing with someone who has called Bozeman home for more than 30 years.

Ryan Kirt has lived in Bozeman for 32 years and has been connected with Gallatin River Lodge for more than a decade. He shares what makes the Gallatin different, from private-access fishing and wade fishing to late-summer terrestrials, streamers, and nymphs.

We also cover the best rods and flies for the Gallatin, how to build a three-day Montana fishing trip, and what makes Gallatin River Lodge a special base for exploring Southwest Montana.

Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/975

Presented by: Drifthook, AVC Rig, Redd's Flies, Golden Fly Shop

In this episode, Chris takes us from that first Alaska salmon encounter to some of the biggest conservation efforts Trout Unlimited has worked on, including the Roadless Rule, Bristol Bay, the Klamath, Yankee Fork restoration, and Apache trout recovery. More than anything, the conservation shows why Trout Unlimited believes anglers can make a real difference when they speak up, stay involved, and protect the waters they care about.

Show Notes https://www.wetflyswing.com/974

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Jerry Darkes has spent decades chasing lake trout across the Great Lakes as a manufacturer’s rep, guide, instructor, travel host, and author. He shares his experience finding lake trout in shallow and deep water and tracking their seasonal movements.

We cover the history and recovery of lake trout in the Great Lakes, the evolution of fly lines and patterns, boat and shoreline strategies, retrieves, hook sets, and what it takes to land a 10- to 20-pound lake trout on the fly.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/973

Presented by: Intrepid Camp Gear

In this episode, McCormick Snow takes us behind the scenes of outdoor gear design and shares how his product development background has changed how he thinks about the equipment we bring outdoors. McCormick studied Outdoor Product Design and Development at Utah State University before joining Intrepid Camp Gear and moving to Colorado. Fly fishing became an obsession along the way, giving him another way to connect to his career with the outdoors.

Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/972

Presented by: Patagonia

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Rachel Finn has spent decades guiding anglers on New York's famous Ausable River while building a career as an artist and conservation advocate. Our conversation covers everything from climate challenges facing trout streams to travel, art, saltwater adventures, and why curiosity never stops making us better anglers.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/971

Sponsors: Redd’s Flies, Fly Fish with Me Utah, Golden Fly Shop, Gallatin River Lodge

Today we’re bringing back one of the most-listened-to conversations in the Wet Fly Swing archive with Craig Mathews, a lifelong angler, author, conservationist, and founder of Blue Ribbon Flies. Craig has spent nearly seven decades fly fishing, and in this Re-Release episode from 2023, we cover everything from Yellowstone caddis hatches and trout fishing to conservation, fly tying, and some unforgettable stories from his years in West Yellowstone.

Craig takes us back to his early days in Michigan and the move that eventually landed him in Montana. What was supposed to be a one-year adventure turned into a new life when Craig became the police chief of West Yellowstone. A few years later, while making $9,000 a year as police chief, he started a wholesale fly-tying operation that employed people with disabilities. That business became Blue Ribbon Flies in 1979 and eventually grew to four fly shops.

Blue Ribbon Flies became a gathering place for anglers, fly tiers, writers, and some of the biggest personalities in fly fishing. Craig shares stories about Jack Gartside, Gary LaFontaine, and the constant flow of people through the shop. He remembers Gary as someone who could walk into a fly shop and immediately get everyone fired up about fishing, insects, and fly patterns.

Conservation is another major part of Craig’s story. He talks about his longtime friendship with Yvon Chouinard and how their shared commitment to giving back helped launch 1% for the Planet. Craig explains how businesses can support approved conservation organizations and shares examples of projects that have protected habitat and public access around the Madison River and Montana.

Then we get into one of Craig’s specialties: caddis and fishing caddis.

Craig breaks down several important Yellowstone-area caddis hatches and explains how anglers can better identify what trout are actually eating. His biggest lesson is simple: slow down and watch the river. Instead of immediately stepping into the water and casting, spend a few minutes observing rise forms, insect activity, and what’s moving through the water.

Craig also explains why fly pattern is often blamed when presentation is the real problem. Getting closer to the fish, choosing the right tippet, controlling drag, and making accurate casts can matter far more than constantly changing flies.

We also cover the X-Caddis, Iris Caddis, spent caddis patterns, pheasant tail flies, and why Craig uses pheasant tail for much more than nymphs.

Finally, Craig takes us into the wilder side of old West Yellowstone, sharing stories from his police chief days involving motorcycle gangs, organized crime, and the relationships he built with people passing through town. Decades later, one of those former encounters even turned into a day of fishing together.

This episode is part fly-fishing lesson, part Yellowstone history, and part reminder of how much can happen when you spend a lifetime paying attention to rivers, insects, conservation, and people.

Presented by: Patagonia

Today's guest has spent years guiding trout anglers in Colorado, but these days he's measuring success by something bigger than just the fish that make it to the net.

Austin Campbell is a Colorado fly fishing guide, Patagonia ambassador, and founder and executive director of Community Fly Fishing. He shares his approach to the South Platte, fishing the Deckers section, finding trout on dry flies, and knowing when to leave the bobber behind.

We cover George Daniel and the Penn State fly fishing program, warm-water challenges during a tough Colorado season, and how Community Fly Fishing is creating zero-barrier opportunities in Colorado, Chicago, Atlanta, the Bahamas, and Belize.

Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/969

Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Togiak River Lodge, TroutRoutes

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Pat Ehlers has been fly fishing since he was a kid exploring trout streams in Wisconsin's Upper Peninsula. Over the years, his curiosity expanded far beyond trout, leading him to become one of the leading voices in warmwater fly fishing and innovative fly design.

We dug into bass behavior, fly line selection, fly tying materials, electronics, and how lessons from conventional bass fishing continue to improve fly fishing techniques.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/968

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

The greatest fly patterns don’t just catch fish, they stand the test of time and become part of fly fishing history.

Fly tyer and author Al Ritt shares the stories behind his book, 25 Best Most Versatile Flies, and some of the most useful patterns in fly fishing. We explore classics including the Adams, Pheasant Tail, Hare's Ear, Royal Wulff, and Clouser Minnow.

We explore Al's long history in fly tying, the East Idaho Fly Tying Expo, his own fly patterns, and his approach to teaching beginners and learning the techniques behind fly tying.

Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/967

Presented by: TroutRoutes, FishHound Expeditions, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Jackson Hole Fly Company.

In this episode, we speak with longtime fly-fishing author Skip Morris about his latest published book, Imposters, and a collection of essays that brings together fly patterns, fishing history, personal stories, and artwork by his wife, Carol Ann Morris. Skip also shares practical lessons from decades on the water, including his “turn-down trick” for presenting a fly to rising trout, why action and size can matter more than constantly changing patterns, and how classic dry flies and wet flies still have a place in today's fly box.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/966

Sponsors: Sullivan Fly Rods, On DeMark Lodge, Redds Flies

Dave shares the story of his father, Doug Stewart, who recently passed away at 87. Doug was the person who introduced Dave to fly fishing, and his influence eventually helped lead to the creation of the Wet Fly Swing Podcast.

Doug’s own fly fishing story reaches back more than 70 years.

He first started fishing the Deschutes River with his father in the early 1950s, when seeing a dozen anglers on the river could make it feel crowded. He eventually became a longtime Deschutes guide, fly shop owner, fly tyer, rod builder, writer, and teacher who introduced countless people to fly fishing.

Doug was also the creator of the Max Canyon steelhead fly. He tells the story of sitting under the trees with Steve Dorn during a brutally hot day on the Deschutes. With fishing slowed down, they started tying flies to pass the time. Doug liked orange and black, put the colors together, and eventually refined the pattern that became the Max Canyon.

We also hear about the early days of Stewart’s Custom Tackle, which later became Stewart’s Fly Shop. Doug talks about building the business through word of mouth, teaching casting and fly tying, and watching A River Runs Through It bring a surge of new anglers into fly fishing.

But this episode goes well beyond the history of a fly shop or a famous steelhead pattern.

Doug shares stories from decades on the water, including hooking and releasing 58 steelhead with Jim Teeny during an incredible day of fishing, falling into the Deschutes while fighting a steelhead, encounters with bears in Alaska, and watching the fly fishing world change around him.

Teaching runs through much of Doug’s story. Before going full-time in fly fishing, he was a seventh and eighth grade teacher. He later brought that same mindset to the fly shop, guiding, casting lessons, fly tying classes, and the many anglers he helped along the way.

Dave also reflects on what that influence looks like today. Doug taught him to fish. Dave passed some of those lessons to friends, who then taught their own kids. That ripple effect may be one of Doug’s greatest legacies.

Near the end of their original conversation, Doug is asked what he would like to be remembered for. His answer comes back to the people: running the fly shop, teaching people to cast and tie flies, learning from others, and staying connected to the fly fishing community.

This episode is ultimately about more than fly fishing.

It’s about fathers, sons, teachers, friends, and the limited amount of time we get together.

If your dad, father figure, mentor, or fishing partner is still around, give them a call. And if you still have the chance to take another fishing trip together, don’t wait too long to make it happen.

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, AVC Rig, Fishhound Expeditions

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Paul Plum entered our Scott Lake Lodge giveaway without expecting much to happen. A few weeks later, he got the call that changed his summer. Together, we traveled deep into northern Saskatchewan, where world-class fishing, incredible hospitality, and untouched wilderness created an experience neither of us will forget.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/964

Presented by: Moccasin Fly Club

Big predator flies are built for explosive strikes, brutal fights, and anglers who live for the hunt.

From striped bass on Long Island to peacock bass in the Amazon, Max Rivetta has spent years tying flies for predator fish. As the in-house fly tyer and host of Moccasin Fly Club, he shares the techniques, materials, and lessons he's learned along the way.

We cover Bob Popovics' influence on modern fly design, choosing high-quality bucktail, preparing for destination trips, and why connecting with other fly tyers is one of the fastest ways to improve your skills.

Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/963

Presented By: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Togiak River Lodge, Drifthook, Blue Bonefish Lodge

Fly fishing has always been about more than catching fish; it's about building connections, sharing experiences, and protecting the waters that bring people together. In this episode, host Dave Stewart sits down with Kyle Schaefer, founder of Soulfly Co Outfitters, to discuss how his company is bringing those values to life through music, fly fishing, and conservation. Together, they explore how Soulfly Co. is creating a welcoming community that inspires both seasoned anglers and newcomers alike.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/962

One question we get all the time is, "What episodes should I start with?"

To answer that, we pulled together the 10 most-listened-to episodes of the year so far. Whether you're interested in casting, dry-dropper fishing, Euro nymphing, steelhead, fly rod design, or planning your next destination trip, this list is a great place to dive in.

The Top 10 Episodes of 2026:

10. Jason Randall – Dry Dropper Fishing Beyond the Basics (Episode 928)

Jason Randall breaks down the divot, pivot, and twist system while sharing practical ways to improve your dry-dropper fishing beyond the basics.

9. John Hazel – Origins of Spey Casting & the Deschutes River (Episode 934)

A fascinating conversation with one of the pioneers of Spey fishing on the Deschutes River, covering the history of steelhead fishing and how the sport evolved.

8. Paul Arden – Why Anglers Stop Improving (Episode 939)

Sexyloops founder Paul Arden shares fly casting insights, explains common mistakes, and discusses why many anglers eventually plateau.

7. Jeff Liskay – The Steelhead Swing System (Episode 898)

A special presentation recorded during one of our fly fishing boot camps that gives listeners a taste of a Wet Fly Swing masterclass.

6. Larry Kenney – Inside Scott Fly Rods (Episode 906)

Scott Fly Rods founder Larry Kenney shares the company's history, innovations, and what makes Scott rods unique.

5. Connor Quigley – Inside Thomas & Thomas (Episode 948)

Connor Quigley discusses fly rod design, innovation, and the development of travel-friendly six-piece Spey rods.

4. Ed Jaworowski – The Science of a Perfect Fly Cast (Episode 897)

One of fly fishing's legendary casting instructors returns to explain the principles behind a better, more efficient cast.

3. Devin Olsen & Jack Arnett – Competitive Dry Fly Fishing (Episode 922)

Members of Team USA discuss competitive dry fly fishing and how they prepare for international competition.

2. Jordan Larson – From Filmmaker to Togiak River Lodge Owner (Episode 947)

Jordan shares the unexpected journey that took him from filmmaking into owning one of Alaska's premier fly fishing lodges.

1. Mark Melnyk – Giant Northern Pike at Scott Lake Lodge (Episode 946)

Our most popular episode of the year features Mark Melnyk of The New Fly Fisher discussing giant northern pike, lake trout, and the incredible fisheries of northern Saskatchewan. It became even more meaningful after our own trip to Scott Lake Lodge confirmed just how special the destination really is.

Looking Ahead

The second half of the year is shaping up to be just as exciting. We're planning new schools, destination trips to places like Belize and Iceland, more YouTube content, and continued growth inside the Wet Fly Swing Pro community. We'll also continue bringing on some of the best guides, anglers, and innovators in fly fishing to help you become a better angler.

If you're looking for your next episode, start with this Top 10 list. These conversations resonated with thousands of anglers this year, and there's a good chance you'll find a few new favorites of your own.

Presented by: AVC Rig, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Togiak River Lodge,

Blue Bonefish Lodge

Experience doesn't end the learning; it just changes the questions you ask on the water. Today I'm joined by Jim Sens of Deadman's Guide Service to talk about why swinging flies for trout and summer steelhead has become one of his favorite ways to catch fish.

Jim spends much of his season guiding anglers on Oregon's McKenzie and Willamette rivers, where he blends summer steelhead, trout, Spey casting, dry flies, nymphing, and wet flies into one complete day on the water.

We also get into fishing summer steelhead from a drift boat, the trout flies that are always in Jim's box, and how he fishes seams and tailouts throughout the season.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/960

Presented by: Golden Fly Shop

Colorado offers far more than famous trout rivers. Michael Tolerton from Golden Fly Shop shares why the Front Range gives anglers access to an incredible range of fisheries within a short drive, along with tips on how changing water conditions can actually create new opportunities.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/959

Presented By: Golden Fly Shop, FishHound Expeditions, Fly Fish With Me Utah, Yellowstone Teton Territory – Visit Idaho

In this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Podcast, Rick Mikesell shares why Denver's South Platte has become a destination for fly anglers looking to challenge themselves with one of the smartest fish in freshwater. He explains how carp fishing improves your casting and presentation, how it closely resembles saltwater flats fishing, and what it takes to fool these powerful fish consistently.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/958

Presented By: Stone Fly Nets, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Togiak River Lodge, Golden Fly Shop

In this episode of In the Bucket, Brian Niska welcomes Dec Hogan, Jonathan Farmer, and Marty Howard for a thoughtful discussion about steelhead fly fishing and the values that keep the sport alive. Their conversation goes beyond flies and techniques, exploring how mentorship, craftsmanship, books, conservation, and community continue to shape fishing culture today.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/957

Presented by: Mountain Waters Resort

Stephen Brunt shares how a magazine assignment turned into a lifelong connection with Newfoundland. Along the way, we cover Atlantic salmon tactics, the legacy of Lee Wulff, the unique culture surrounding these rivers, and why this part of Canada has become one of his favorite places on earth.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/956

Presented by: Drifthook, Golden Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Few people have moved between the worlds of literature, fly fishing, film, and Western culture with a front-row seat to all of them.

In this episode, Dave sits down with Tom McGuane to talk about a lifetime of chasing fish, telling stories, and following his curiosity wherever it led. From tarpon in the Florida Keys to decades spent fishing the Dean River, Tom shares the experiences that shaped both his writing and his life.

We covered steelhead, Atlantic salmon, Spey casting, literature, Hollywood, Jimmy Buffett, Jeff Bridges, and what it feels like to keep chasing fish after decades on the water. If you've ever wondered what a lifetime devoted to fly fishing looks like, this episode is a master class.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/955

Presented By: Blue Bonefish Lodge, Pescador on the Fly

For many fly anglers, a trip to Belize means one thing—finally experiencing the thrill of chasing Bonefish across crystal-clear flats. But once you're standing on the bow of a skiff, you'll quickly realize that Bonefish are only part of the story.

In this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Podcast, Chris shares what it was like to fish the Belize flats for the first time. From landing his first Bonefish to taking shots at Tarpon and Permit, the trip became an unforgettable introduction to the world of saltwater fly fishing.

954 Show Notes: https://www.wetflyswing.com/954

Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, Fly Fish with me Utah, Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions

A good fish finder won't catch trout for you, but it will help you understand the underwater world in ways that simply weren't possible a few years ago.

In this episode, Wade Van Pelt and Phil Rowley dig into fish finder mounts, portable sonar systems, and how today's technology makes it easier than ever to use your electronics no matter what watercraft you fish from.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/953

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Jackson Hole Fly Company, On DeMark Lodge

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Will Godfrey has lived through nearly every major era of modern fly fishing. Along the way he built successful fly shops, guided legendary outdoor writers, traveled the world chasing trout and steelhead, and helped promote catch-and-release long before it became standard practice. This conversation is packed with stories that connect today's anglers to the people and places that built our sport.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/952

Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, AVC Rig, Patagonia

Fly fishing in Texas offers anglers much more than bass and trout. In this episode, Mitch Kemp shares why rivers like the Brazos, Devils, and Pecos have become must-visit destinations for anglers looking to target carp, gar, and other warmwater species.

Along the way, Mitch talks about building Fatty's on the Fly, planning overnight river trips, and the small adjustments that lead to more success on the water. Whether you're new to fly fishing in Texas or planning your next adventure, this episode is full of practical tips and memorable stories.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/951

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions

Nate Cathcart leads research focused on Pacific lamprey across Alaska, working with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game and partners to map habitat, understand migration patterns, and fill major knowledge gaps about this ancient fish. We also talk about how local communities, conservation groups, and anglers are helping collect data that could shape future management efforts.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/950B

Presented by: Fly Fish with me Utah, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Lake fly fishing is a different game. Finding trout in a river is one thing, but finding them in a thousand acres of open water is a whole different game.

Cody Burgdorff and Devin Olsen of Team USA joined the show to talk about lake fly fishing, one of the most important and most misunderstood parts of competitive fly fishing.

They broke down how they approach a brand new lake, how they work through the water column from shallow to deep, and how they systematically find trout when they have zero information to start with. They also got into the gear, lines, and leader setups they lean on most when the competition is on the line.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/950

Presented by: TroutRoutes, Golden Fly Shop, Toyota Prairies, Toyota Pacific

Some of the biggest changes in life don't come with a plan. They happen after an injury, a setback, or a moment that forces you to look for a new purpose.

In this episode, we're joined by Dana Lattery of Fly Fishing Bow River Outfitters, who shares how leaving professional hockey eventually led him to one of North America's great trout rivers.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/949

Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Golden Fly Shop, Fly Fish with me Utah, TroutRoutes

In this episode, Connor shares the history of Thomas & Thomas, explains what gives a fly rod its "soul," and offers practical tips for choosing the right rod for trout, stripers, Atlantic salmon, pike, and more.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/948

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

Jordan Larsen joins us to share the behind-the-scenes story of Togiak River Lodge, one of the most remote fishing destinations in Bristol Bay. We talk about Chinook fishing, spey programs, conservation, mentorship, filmmaking, and the unlikely road that led Jordan and his brother Zack to ownership during one of the most uncertain periods in modern history.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/947b

Presented by: TroutRoutes, Gallatin River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Toyota Prairies, Toyota Pacific

You can learn a lot about a person by looking in their cooler at the end of a fishing trip. In this episode, we're digging into Cast and Iron Camp Cooking and British Columbia Fly Fishing with Teddy Cosco.

Teddy is a steelhead angler, university professor, camp cook, and someone who has spent years exploring rivers across British Columbia, the Yukon, and beyond.

We get into steelhead fishing, Spey casting, camp cooking, and why some of the best memories from a trip happen back at camp after the rods are put away. Teddy shares his system for preparing meals before a trip, cooking over the fire, and making life on the river a whole lot easier.

If you love steelhead, good food, and the stories that come from time spent outdoors, you're going to enjoy this one.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/947

Presented By: TroutRoutes, AVC Rig, Jackson Hole Fly Company

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Paul Arden, founder of Sexyloops and one of the most respected fly casting instructors in the world, returns to the podcast to share lessons from more than three decades of teaching anglers how to cast more efficiently. From beginners learning loop control to experienced anglers searching for more distance and accuracy, Paul breaks down the fundamentals that separate average casters from great ones.

The conversation covers fly casting plateaus, loop control, back-cast awareness, the 170 cast, double-haul mechanics, fly line selection, and common misconceptions that hold anglers back. Paul also shares practical drills, coaching insights, and why understanding what happens behind you may be the fastest path to improving what happens in front of you.

#946 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/946

Presented By: AVC Rig, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Drew Evans of House of Fly returns to the podcast to share why carp may be one of the most underrated gamefish in fly fishing—and why they offer some of the best preparation for chasing bonefish, redfish, and other saltwater species. Drawing from years of experience fishing Idaho's rivers and traveling to the flats, Drew explains how sight fishing for carp builds the casting, presentation, and fish-spotting skills that translate almost anywhere in the world.

The conversation also explores choosing the right fly line, matching rods to your casting style, improving the double haul, and planning bucket-list steelhead trips into Idaho's remote Sheep Ranch. Along the way, Drew shares practical tips for reading carp behavior, building confidence on the flats, and discovering new fisheries when trout season slows down.

#945 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/945

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory

Paul Bowen has spent over 50 years fly fishing and tying flies throughout eastern Idaho. From the South Fork of the Snake to Henrys Lake, Hebgen Lake, and a variety of lesser-known reservoirs, he's developed a reputation for effective stillwater patterns and thoughtful fly design. This conversation covers his favorite lake tactics, fly modifications, and the long-running Eastern Idaho Fly Tying Expo.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/944B

Presented by: Blue Bonefish Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, AVC Rig Some rivers don't reward bigger boats. They reward smarter access.

Water Master Rafts have built a reputation for helping anglers reach water that bigger boats often can't. In this episode, Rich Stuber joins me to share the story behind the company, how he went from employee to owner, and why portability has become such a big part of the way many anglers fish today.

We get into what makes Water Master boats different, from their unique design and welded construction to rowing, fins, stability, and fishing rivers solo. Rich also shares some insights from his home waters in Montana, including the Bitterroot River, Salmonfly season, and a few surprises showing up in the fishery these days.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/944

Presented By: On DeMark Lodge, Pescador on the Fly, Togiak River Lodge, Jackson Hole Fly Company

In this episode, Davy Wotton discusses why many anglers are missing fish before their flies even land. While most anglers focus on casting farther, Davy argues that shorter, more controlled casts in traditional wet fly fishing often result in better presentations and more fish caught.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/943

Presented by: AVC Rig, TroutRoutes, Stonefly Nets, Drifthook Fly Fishing

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors/

Matt Thornton shares the story behind Wilderness Calling and how a simple conversation about conservation funding turned into one of the most ambitious steelhead research projects currently underway. We dig into satellite telemetry, Oregon steelhead fishing, Alaska guiding, and the challenge of understanding fish that spend most of their lives far from shore.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/942

Presented By: Gallatin River Lodge

A successful Montana fly fishing trip isn't just about choosing the right river—it's about building the right experience. Kathryn Bartlett, General Manager at Gallatin River Lodge, shares how thoughtful planning, flexible scheduling, great guides, and a comfortable home base can transform a fishing vacation into something much bigger. For anglers looking to explore Montana's legendary waters while still enjoying everything the region has to offer, Gallatin River Lodge provides a unique starting point.

#941B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/941B

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Stonefly Nets, Fly Fish with me Utah

What does it take to keep producing nine-pound trout year after year?

In this episode, we're heading to Henry's Lake with Kevin Skenandore of the Henry's Lake Foundation. Kevin has spent decades fishing these waters and is now helping lead conservation efforts aimed at protecting and improving one of the West's most iconic stillwater fisheries.

We talk about the new Feed the Fish program, how volunteers are restoring spawning habitat in tributary streams, and what water temperature and oxygen levels mean for trout survival. Kevin also shares some of his favorite stillwater tactics, including leech and chironomid setups that consistently produce fish on Henry's Lake.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/941

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory

Phil Rowley and Darren Huntsman share why Henry's Lake remains one of the premier stillwater fisheries in North America. More importantly, they explain how the techniques taught during the Henry's Lake Stillwater School can help anglers improve on lakes everywhere.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/940

Presented By: Stonefly Nets, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Fly Fish with me Utah

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Paul Arden, founder of Sexyloops and one of the most respected fly casting instructors in the world, returns to the podcast to share lessons from more than three decades of teaching anglers how to cast more efficiently. From beginners learning loop control to experienced anglers searching for more distance and accuracy, Paul breaks down the fundamentals that separate average casters from great ones.

The conversation covers fly casting plateaus, loop control, back-cast awareness, the 170 cast, double-haul mechanics, fly line selection, and common misconceptions that hold anglers back. Paul also shares practical drills, coaching insights, and why understanding what happens behind you may be the fastest path to improving what happens in front of you.

#939 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/939

Presented By: Pescador on the Fly

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Chris Teas joins Jeff Ditsworth of Pescador on the Fly to share lessons learned from more than five decades of fly fishing around the world. From growing up fishing Wisconsin and Colorado waters to traveling across South America and beyond, Chris explains why experience has taught him to simplify gear, focus on presentation, and stop overcomplicating fly fishing.

The conversation covers fly fishing travel mistakes, stolen gear, packable rods, Euro nymphing, guide tactics, and why Chris believes most anglers only need a handful of flies to catch fish almost anywhere. Along the way, he shares stories from Argentina, golf-course peacock bass adventures, and lessons on why fly fishing remains one of the best ways to connect with people and the outdoors.

#938B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/938B

Presented by: Patagonia

If tomorrow were your last day on the planet, would you feel like you left enough out on the water? That question sits at the heart of this conversation with Riverhorse Nakadate and his new book, Water Lines.

Riverhorse has spent decades exploring marshes, rivers, oceans, surf breaks, and wild places around the world. Today, he shares some of the stories, adventures, and lessons that came from a life spent following water wherever it leads.

We're talking about the making of Water Lines, what it was like working with Patagonia to bring the book to life, and the experience of recording the audiobook. We'll also get an update on conservation efforts in the Boundary Waters and hear a few stories from the road along the way.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/938

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Stonefly Nets

Fly fishing Eastern Idaho is all about timing. Hit the river during the right hatch, find the right feeding lane, and a good day can turn into one you'll remember for years.

I sat down with Elden Berrett, a longtime eastern Idaho guide, fly designer, and tier who spent more than 25 years guiding on the South Fork Snake, Henry's Fork, Yellowstone waters, Hebgen Lake, and the Teton.

We talked about the East Idaho Fly Tying Expo, some of his most productive fly patterns, the famous salmon fly hatch, and what he's learned from decades on some of the best trout water in the West.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/937B

Presented by: TroutRoutes, On DeMark Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

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In this episode, I sat down with Blake Merwin from Gig Harbor Fly Shop to talk about Puget Sound cutthroat fishing, steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula, and the small details that separate productive days from frustrating ones. We dug into beach structure, tide movement, chum fry migrations, topwater opportunities, and why standing still is often the biggest mistake anglers make.

Blake has spent decades guiding and exploring these waters. Along the way, he's developed a deep understanding of sea-run cutthroat behavior and how anglers can consistently find fish throughout the year.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/937

Presented By: TroutRoutes

In this episode, we head to Montana with Mike Pogoda from Rising Trout Fly Fishing to break down how to properly plan a fly-fishing trip in one of the best trout destinations in the West.

We dive into choosing between the Madison River, Yellowstone River, and Gallatin River, adapting during low water seasons, and making smarter on-the-go decisions so you're not second guessing once you step into the river.

Mike also shares insights from guiding these rivers every day and how local guides stay connected on river flows, hatches, and fish activity across Montana.

Show Notes https://wetflyswing.com/936

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing

Every angler has heard it before: this fly always works, this is my confidence fly, you have to have this pattern in your box. But when you're standing on the river with hundreds of flies to choose from, how do you know what actually matters?

Matt Bernhardt from Drifthook joins us to break down fly selection and share a simpler way to think about choosing flies.

We also talk about what drives good fly selection, why size and silhouette often matter more than exact imitation, and the differences between beginner, intermediate, and advanced approaches to choosing flies.

We'll also hear about the story behind Drifthook, his background in guiding, fly design, fly quality, sourcing materials, and what's next for the brand.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/935B

Presented by: TroutRoutes, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Fly Fish with me Utah

Jani Himanko owns Kellankoski Lodge in central Finland, where anglers target native brown trout, grayling, pike, and other species in a low-pressure river system connected by lakes and rapids. The fishery is known for aggressive trout feeding behavior, migrating baitfish, and a unique streamer technique centered around the surfboard fly.

This conversation digs into the technical side of streamer fishing, Finland's trout culture, and how protected private water helped preserve giant native browns in their original range.

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Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/935

#934 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/934

Presented By: Intrepid Camp Gear, Togiak River Lodge, Gallatin River Lodge

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What does it really take to film fly fishing at the highest level? In this episode, Todd Moen of Catch Magazine joins us to share the story behind some of the most iconic fly fishing films ever created—from steelhead rivers in the Pacific Northwest to remote destinations across the globe.

We dig into Todd's early production days filming for Fly Fishing the World, surviving a plane crash in the Bahamas, and how he eventually built Catch Magazine into one of the most respected visual storytelling brands in fly fishing. Todd also explains why steelhead may be the hardest species to film, how music shapes his editing process, and what most people never realize about the amount of work required to capture a single unforgettable fish on camera.

#934 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/934

Presented by: Golden Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, On DeMark Lodge, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

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Allie Cunningham from Science on the Fly breaks down how anglers can become community scientists by collecting water samples from their local rivers. The project focuses on tracking nutrients, water chemistry, and long-term watershed health while helping everyday anglers better understand what's happening in the places they fish.

This conversation also highlights how grassroots conservation can create real change. From polluted wastewater entering Texas rivers to monitoring watersheds in the Amazon, Science on the Fly is helping anglers move from simply caring about rivers to actively protecting them.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/933

Presented By: Togiak River Lodge

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In this episode, Tom Petry and Jorden Susewitz of Film The Hunt share their experience at Togiak River Lodge, where a filmmaking project turned into a deep dive into spey fishing, Alaska wilderness, and the people who make the lodge special. What started as a content trip documenting the Larsen family's journey quickly became something more as both Tom and Jorden picked up spey rods for the first time and discovered the addictive pull of swinging flies.

We dig into filmmaking in remote locations, learning to cast a two-handed rod, the challenges of capturing outdoor adventures on camera, and why Alaska has a way of changing your perspective. Whether you're interested in spey fishing, storytelling, photography, or simply experiencing wild places, this episode offers a unique look behind the scenes.

#932B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/932B

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, FishHound Expeditions, AVC Rig

There aren't many anglers left who were there when modern fly fishing was still being figured out. Jim Teeny and Dick Sagara lived through that era, helped shape it, and still have the stories to prove it.

In this episode, we dig into the early days of winter steelhead fly fishing in the Pacific Northwest, the birth of the Teeny fly lines, and the people who changed the sport along the way. We also talked about the famous "I spot 'em, I got 'em" philosophy that still sparks conversation today.

This one moves from steelhead to tarpon to fly line design and back again, with a bunch of classic stories packed in between. Let's go!

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/932

In this episode of Hunting with a Fly, Rick Kustich sits down with Vince Tobia of Cattaraugus Creek Outfitters to talk about one of the most overlooked predators in saltwater fly fishing—the barracuda. While many anglers head to the flats focused solely on bonefish, Vince explains why barracuda deserve a spot on every fly angler's radar. From sight-fishing tactics and presentation angles to gear setup and landing fish safely, Vince shares the lessons he's learned from years of chasing these aggressive apex predators across the Bahamas and beyond.

#931B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/931B

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions, Pescador on the Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Gallatin River Lodge

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Mia Sheppard has spent decades guiding and outfitting across the Pacific Northwest through Little Creek Outfitters. From steelhead rivers like the Deschutes and Grande Ronde to multi-day rafting adventures, she's built a career around rivers, community, and outdoor culture.

This episode covers the return of the Sandy River Spey Clave, Dutch oven camp cooking, the changing landscape on the John Day River, and a few classic stories from the river that longtime steelheaders will appreciate.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/931

Presented by: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Golden Fly Shop, Fish The Fly Guide Service, TroutRoutes

In this episode, our stillwater guru, Phil Rowley, sits down with Chris Callanan from Outcast Sporting Gear to talk about inflatable watercraft for lakes.

They dig into float tubes, pontoon boats, frameless boats, anchoring systems, safety, maintenance, storage, and how to choose the right setup for your fishing style.

Chris also shares the history behind Outcast and how portable watercraft evolved from the old donut-style float tubes into today's modern V-hull designs.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/930

Presented By: Gallatin River Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company

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What does it really take to film fly fishing at the highest level? In this episode, Todd Moen of Catch Magazine joins us to share the story behind some of the most iconic fly fishing films ever created—from steelhead rivers in the Pacific Northwest to remote destinations across the globe.

We dig into Todd's early production days filming for Fly Fishing the World, surviving a plane crash in the Bahamas, and how he eventually built Catch Magazine into one of the most respected visual storytelling brands in fly fishing. Todd also explains why steelhead may be the hardest species to film, how music shapes his editing process, and what most people never realize about the amount of work required to capture a single unforgettable fish on camera.

#929 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/929

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Mike Komara and Michael Bradley are two of the five starters representing Team USA at the upcoming World Fly Fishing Championships in Eastern Idaho. They've spent years refining modern Euro nymphing tactics, and this episode digs into one of the biggest changes in competitive fly fishing over the last decade: the move from traditional sighter systems to fully colored micro leaders.

The discussion also covers team strategy, competition preparation, dry-dropper adjustments, minimalist gear systems, and how presentation often matters more than the fly itself.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/928b

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, AVC Rig, FishHound Expeditions

Today, we're digging into dries and dry dropper fishing beyond the basics with Jason Randall. We talk about better drifts, longer leaders, strike detection, presentation, and the small rigging changes that can completely change how your flies fish on the water.

Jason also shares where dry droppers work best, where they fall apart, and a few subtle tricks that help your flies look more natural instead of just floating by.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/928

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Togiak River Lodge, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Drifthook Fly Fishing

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What happens when a family helps shape the history of drift boats for nearly a century? In this episode, Jeff Helfrich joins us to share stories from the early days of McKenzie River drift boats, how his grandfather Prince Helfrich helped evolve whitewater boat design, and what it's really like navigating technical rivers like the Middle Fork Salmon and Rogue River in wooden boats.

We dig into the transition from plank boats to plywood, the origins of the McKenzie-style drift boat, and why certain whitewater rapids still give experienced guides butterflies. Jeff also shares incredible stories from the Frank Church Wilderness, including flash floods that created entirely new rapids overnight, how drift boats handle technical water, and why these wilderness river trips remain some of the most unique fly fishing experiences in the country.

#927 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/927

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Sean McLendon guides out of Montana Fly Fishing near Absarokee, Montana, where anglers can fish everything from technical spring creeks to big freestone rivers like the Yellowstone and Stillwater. His specialty is small water fishing, especially the kind of creeks where stealth and presentation matter more than distance casting.

Throughout this conversation, Sean shared practical strategies for approaching selective trout, fishing dry flies on small streams, and covering water efficiently without spooking fish.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/926b

Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Gallatin River Lodge

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Greg Keenan is back on the podcast to talk all things stillwater fly fishing, from early season ice-off opportunities to advanced presentations for selective trout. Greg guides and teaches on the lakes around British Columbia and has become one of the go-to voices in stillwater education through his schools and YouTube content.

This conversation covers everything from reading lake structure and finding productive shoals to fishing chironomids, leeches, and naked line presentations more effectively.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/926

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Golden Fly Shop, On DeMark Lodge

Today, we take a look back at 50 years of Henry's Fork Anglers with Mike Lawson and some great stories from the early days of fly fishing on the Henry's Fork.

We talk about the rise of fly shops, graphite rods, matching the hatch, famous fly fishing writers, and how Henry's Fork helped shape modern fly fishing as we know it today.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/925

Presented By: Fly Fish with me Utah, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Smitty's Fly Box, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Some of the best water you'll ever fish is the water most people never reach. In this episode, Christian Pretorius joins us to share stories from a life spent guiding and traveling across some of the wildest fisheries on the planet—from Seychelles GTs and Kamchatka rainbows to giant Golden Dorado deep in the Bolivian jungle.

We dig into what makes remote fisheries so special, the tradeoffs between helicopter access and earning it on foot, and why the journey itself often matters just as much as the fish. Christian also shares lessons from decades of global travel, how pressure changes world-class fisheries over time, and why the best trips are ultimately about people, culture, and connection—not just catching fish.

#924 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/924

Presented By: FishHound Expeditions

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How does one of the largest free-flowing rivers in the United States end up back on the table for major development projects? In this episode, Margaret Stern from the Susitna River Coalition returns to the podcast to share what's happening right now across Alaska's Susitna watershed—from a proposed hydroelectric dam to a massive access road that could permanently change the region.

We talk about why the Susitna remains such a unique and accessible wild river system, how local communities are organizing around conservation, and why public comments matter more than most anglers realize. Margaret also shares details on the coalition's river cleanup efforts, citizen science projects, and practical ways anyone—whether you live in Alaska or not—can help protect these fisheries for future generations.

#923 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/923

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Dry fly fishing can look simple from the outside. Match the hatch, make a clean cast, and watch the eat. But once you dig into how top competitors approach it, you realize it's not about the fly nearly as much as everything around it.

In this episode, I sat down with Devin Olsen and Jack Arnot to break down what they're doing differently, especially with the Spanish dry fly system. This one gets into leader design, casting control, and why simplifying your flies might actually help you catch more fish. If you've ever struggled with drag, picky fish, or missed eats on dries, this one will open your eyes.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/922b

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions

Today, we're digging into what's happening right now across Alaska, from the fight over West Susitna and Alaska public lands to bycatch, mining, and road development, and why it matters to anyone who cares about wild fish.

I sat down with Rachel James and Ryan Astalos from SalmonState, along with Adam Cuthriell of Fishhound Expeditions. We talk about Bristol Bay, the proposed West Susitna Road, trawl bycatch, and how public lands decisions in Alaska ripple across the entire country.

This one goes beyond fly fishing. It's about protecting the future of wild fish and the places we all depend on.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/922

Presented By: On DeMark Lodge, Intrepid Camp Gear, Pescador on the Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company

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Why do some anglers seem to find fish instantly while others struggle all day on the same lake? In this episode, Gareth Jones, sales Director at Airflo Fishing, breaks down Stillwater fly fishing at a level most anglers never reach—from understanding exact sink rates to building repeatable systems that help locate fish quickly.

We dig into countdown systems, retrieves, line densities, and how wind, depth, and presentation all work together. Gareth also shares competition-proven tactics for fishing teams of flies, controlling drift with a drogue, and deciding when to fish attractor patterns versus imitative flies. If lakes have ever felt overwhelming or random, this episode gives you a framework to simplify the entire game.

#921 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/921

Presented by: Moccasin Fly Club

In this episode, I sat down with John Hunt from Moccasin Fly Club to dig into what these trips actually look like. We got into fly fishing Baja liveaboards, chasing trophy roosterfish, and the stuff most people don't think about until it's too late.

If Baja has been on your radar, this one gives you a clear picture of what to expect and how to do it right.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/920b

Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, Golden Fly Shop, AVC Rig, TroutRoutes

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What happens when you take fly fishing beyond your home water and start chasing it across the world? In this episode, we sit down with Emilie Björkman and Ted Logart from Loop to talk about Wild Fish, Wild Places, a global series focused on travel, culture, and conservation.

They share how the project came together, how they choose destinations, and what they've learned filming in places like Montana, Sweden, Iceland, and New Zealand. We also dig into the real challenges behind the scenes, why conservation issues are often global, and how anglers can take simple steps to make an impact right at home.

#920 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/920

Presented by: Golden Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, FishHound Expeditions

In this episode, we go inside the minds of world champion fly casters Whitney Gould, Rick Hartman, and Kalyn Hoggard to break down what really separates good from elite.

We talk about the World Fly Casting Championships, what it takes to carry 80+ feet of line in the air, and the biggest mistakes most anglers make when trying to cast farther.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/919

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Togiak River Lodge, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

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In today's episode of In the Bucket podcast, Brian Niska is joined by Adrienne Comeau and Eric Leininger for a candid conversation on what really drives success in steelhead fishing. What starts with fly choice and presentation quickly shifts into a bigger discussion around uncertainty, experience, and how much control anglers actually have on the water.

Eric shares a perspective shaped by years of guiding—that in certain conditions, especially when water temperatures are right, many of the details anglers focus on may not be as critical as they seem. Adrienne adds her experience from the river, highlighting the role of confidence, instinct, and pattern recognition, while also recognizing the randomness that shows up time and time again. Together, they unpack the balance between what we think we know and what remains unpredictable—and why that tension is part of what keeps steelhead fishing so compelling.

#918 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/918

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

Losing fish after a solid grab happens more than people talk about. You feel the eat, the rod loads up, maybe even a head shake, and then it's just gone.

Floyd Carter is back to break down what he's been seeing all season, from the Olympic Peninsula to Togiak. They get into what an actual take feels like, when to stay patient, and when it's time to hit it. They also dig into the loop vs drag debate, how small changes might keep fish pinned, and why even experienced anglers are still figuring this out in real time.

If you've been losing fish and can't quite figure out why, this one will hit close to home.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/917B

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In this short solo episode, Dave shares a spring check-in and gives you a look at everything happening behind the scenes at Wet Fly Swing right now.

You'll hear about the launch of a new show, Hunting with a Fly with Rick Kustich, plus updates on the growing podcast network including In the Bucket, The Great Lakes Dude, and The Littoral Zone. Dave also breaks down what's coming next with the Fly Fishing Bootcamp this summer and how you can get access to live sessions and replays.

He also talks about upcoming hosted trips across North America (with some new saltwater opportunities), what's happening inside the Wet Fly Swing Pro community, and how you can get early access to trips, live sessions, and more.

This episode is also your chance to help shape the future of the show. Dave is looking for honest feedback—what you want more of, what's working, and where things can improve.

If you've been listening for a while or just getting started, this is a quick way to get up to speed on everything going on—and where things are headed next.

Musky fishing has a way of forcing you to evolve. You can put in the hours, make good casts, fish the right water—and still feel like you're just missing something. In this episode, we break down a true musky fly fishing playbook with Rick Kustich, built from years of refining what actually works.

This isn't theory. It's a look at the exact adjustments Rick has made since writing his book—and how those changes have led to more consistency and more big fish.

If you want to tighten up your approach and fish more efficiently, this one hits the key areas.

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Fishing big bugs isn't just about throwing something large at the bank and hoping for an explosion. What really matters is precision, realism, and getting that fly exactly where it needs to be.

In this episode, I sat down with Ken Burkholder to dig into the details that separate a decent drift from one that actually gets eaten. We get into fly design, fishing tight banks, and why small tweaks can make a big difference when fish are locked in. Ken brings decades of experience from the South Fork of the Snake, plus a deep background in fly design with Fulling Mill. This one covers everything from stoneflies to cicadas and a whole lot in between.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/916

Presented by: Golden Fly Shop, TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company.

A music producer doesn't usually end up building a fly fishing podcast—but that's exactly how Pablo Signori got started. What began as a side project during the pandemic turned into The Newb and the Knower, a show built around learning fly fishing from the ground up.

Instead of positioning himself as an expert, Pablo leaned into being a beginner and documented the process in real time. That approach not only shaped the podcast but also opened the door to travel, deeper learning, and a completely new path in fly fishing.

Presented by: TroutRoutes

There's a stretch of the Midwest that a lot of anglers pass right by without ever realizing what's tucked into it. Beneath the farmland and rolling roads of the region sits one of the most underrated trout fisheries in the country. In this episode, John Van Vliet breaks down why the Driftless has become such a special place for anglers who love small streams, spring creeks, and big wild trout.

We get into the unique geology of the Driftless, why the region fishes so differently from freestone rivers, and how a creek that looks too small to hold fish can surprise you with a twenty-inch brown. John also shares practical tactics for approaching new water, finding fish faster, and fishing these clear creeks without blowing your chances.

This one is packed with useful takeaways whether you're planning your first trip to the Driftless or just want to become a better small stream angler.

Presented by: AVC Rig, TroutRoutes, On DeMark Lodge

James Frakes and Jackson Birrell break down what they're doing with the Salmonfly Project, a nonprofit focused on tracking aquatic insect populations across the West. They talk about why bugs like salmonflies, stoneflies, and mayflies matter, and how they can show what's really happening in a river.

You'll also hear how habitat, water quality, and insect life all connect, and what anglers can do to pay attention and get involved.

They also touch on Bug Fest, coming up soon, where you can learn more and connect with the project in person.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/914

Presented by: Fly Fish with Me Utah, Togiak River Lodge, Golden Fly Shop

We're putting together the Ultimate Leech Guide with Landon Mayer and Phil Rowley. We break down when to use leeches, how to fish them, and why they work so consistently across different lakes.

We also dig into presentation tactics, leader setups, and the leech life cycle so you can better understand what fish are keying on.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/913

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

In this episode on classic salmon fly tying, I sat down with Marvin Nolte, a guy who's been at the vise since the 1970s and has tied over 2,000 classic Atlantic salmon flies. We get into what it really takes to tie these patterns, why most people don't stick with it, and how a random Christmas gift turned into a decades-long obsession.

We also dig into one of the wildest stories in fly tying, the massive Granger collection, and what it says about craftsmanship, patience, and going deep into the details.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/912

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Jackson Hole Fly Company, and Montana Fly Fishing Lodge.

Fly fishing travel isn't what it used to be. The easy trips are getting crowded, and the places that still feel untouched take a little more effort to reach.

In this episode, we get a real look at what that next level of travel looks like. Will Blair walks through two very different fisheries—the remote flats of the Bahamas and the wild rivers of Kamchatka—and explains how both are evolving right now.

This is a full-on fly fishing travel guide, from logistics to species to what actually matters once you get there.

Presented by: Fly Fish with me Utah

Most anglers walk right past good water without even knowing it.

In this episode, we're digging into how to find trout and turn refusals into eats with Mike O'Brien. He shares how guides break down a river in the first few minutes and what they look for before making a single cast.

We also get into why trout refuse flies that look perfect, and how small changes in your drift and position can turn those refusals into eats. Mike talks about reading trout behavior, spotting high percentage water, and making simple adjustments when things aren't working.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/910B

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Togiak River Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Sponsors: https://www.wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Jonathan Farmer from Midnight Sun Custom Flies shares how this camp blends the comfort of a lodge with the authenticity of a true Alaska steelhead camp. It's built for anglers who want to fish hard, learn more, and experience Alaska in the fall.

From swing techniques to river behavior to camp life, this one is packed with insight for anyone chasing chrome.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/910

Sponsors: Grand Teton, AVC Rig, TroutRoutes

There's a whole world of trout food drifting beneath the surface that most anglers never fully notice. Tiny insects, short-lived hatches, and subtle movements quietly control how trout feed and where they hold.

In this episode, we dig into trout food — not just what they eat, but why it matters. Because once you start noticing bugs, the river starts making a whole lot more sense.

Maggie Heumann from Trout Unlimited joins me to break down aquatic entomology in a way that actually connects to your time on the water.

Presented by: Golden Fly Shop, Fly Fish with me Utah, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Pescador on the Fly

Do you remember when intruders took over with big profiles and tons of flash? But what if the real edge is going smaller? In this episode, we're digging into fishing smaller flies for Great Lakes steelhead and salmon, and what happens when you shift from bulk to balance and from heavy push to a more subtle presence.

Alex Belonga breaks it down, from Temple Dogs to sparse hair wings, plus how presentation, movement, and fly design all play into getting more eats.

908 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/908

Presented by: TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company

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What does it take to completely rethink how we carry gear on the water? In this episode, we dig into fly fishing innovation through the story of Fishpond and the mind behind it, Johnny Le Coq. From cassette tape cases to chest packs and carbon fiber nets, this one connects design, function, and purpose in a big way.

We get into the early days of Fishpond, how disruption shaped the brand, and why conservation became just as important as the gear itself. Jonny also shares what he's focused on now, including a powerful citizen science movement that's giving anglers a new way to protect the waters they love.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/907

Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Visit Idaho, Stonefly Nets, Drifthook Fly Fishing.

Fly fishing has always evolved, but some moments change everything.

From bamboo to fiberglass to graphite, each shift has redefined how anglers experience the water. In this episode, Larry Kenney shares what it was like to be at the center of one of the most important transitions in fly fishing history—the move to graphite fly rods.

Larry, co-founder of Scott Fly Rods, takes us through the early days of rod building, the rise of graphite innovation, and the lessons he's learned from decades in the industry. Along the way, he shares practical advice that challenges how anglers think about gear, casting, and improvement.

Presented by: On DeMark Lodge

We dig into what's happening on the Upper Missouri right now, from macroinvertebrate data to water management challenges. This episode with Josh Seckinger and David Stagliano from Upper Missouri Watershed Alliance (UMOWA) connects the dots between science, fishing, and long-term river health.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/904

Presented by: On DeMark Lodge

In this episode, Craig and Warren break down what really matters when you're fishing the Missouri during peak dry fly season. We get into fishing the Trico hatch, how timing and rhythm often beat perfect fly choice, and what anglers miss when targeting rising fish.

You'll also hear about the Missouri River Dry Fly School at On DeMark Lodge. Find out what you can expect on the water, and how to apply the techniques you'll learn there anywhere you fish.

903 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/903

Presented By: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Mountain Waters Resort.

Steelhead fishing rewards patience, repetition, and time on the water. In this episode, Dax Messett shares practical winter steelhead fishing tips on reading water, fishing near tidewater, choosing the right setup, and making better swings on coastal rivers.

We also get into the lower Rogue, the Klamath, leader strength, tide influence, and how to land fish cleanly without a net.

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

In this episode, Chase walks through Montana spring creek fly fishing — from the Yellowstone and Stillwater to spring creeks and the Shoshone. We dig into double-nymph rigs, streamer strategies, dry-dropper setups, and how fall fishing in Montana changes the whole game. If you're planning a Montana trip or just want to fish smarter on big western rivers, this one is packed with ideas.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/901b

Presented by: San Juan Rodworks, Pescador on the Fly, Togiak River Lodge, Toyota Prairies

In this episode, I sit down with Jim McLennan to explore Bow River fly fishing across generations. We talk about the shift from classic dry fly fishing to streamer fishing, increased boat traffic, and the challenges of managing a well-known tailwater fishery in Alberta.

We also get into key hatches like golden stones, how dam operations impact river conditions, and how fly fishing techniques have evolved on the Bow River. Jim shares stories about legends like Lefty Kreh and Gary LaFontaine, along with insights from his books, including Blue Ribbon Bow.

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In this episode, we dig deep into one of the most important but often misunderstood parts of fly fishing: entomology, or the study of aquatic insects, and how it directly connects to success on the water.

James Frakes and Jackson Birrell from the Salmonfly Project break this topic down in a way that makes it approachable, practical, and actually useful for anglers at any level. Instead of overwhelming you with scientific jargon or Latin names, they focus on what matters most: understanding bugs well enough to make better decisions when fish are feeding.

Right from the start, the conversation shifts the way you think about "matching the hatch." It's not just about picking the right fly—it's about understanding timing, behavior, and movement. When you start thinking not only like a fish, but also like the bug, everything begins to click.

Why Bugs Matter More Than You Think

One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation is that bugs are not just "fish food" they are the foundation of the entire river ecosystem.

Aquatic insects: Feed trout and drive feeding behavior Support birds and other wildlife Help clean and maintain healthy rivers Act as early warning signs for water quality

In fact, over 70% of freshwater species are insects, which puts into perspective just how important they are. The guys emphasize that it's not just about having a lot of bugs it's about diversity.

Different species hatch at different times, creating consistent feeding opportunities for trout throughout the year. Without that diversity, fishing becomes less predictable and often less productive. The Big 3: Mayflies, Stoneflies, and Caddisflies To simplify things, they focus on the three major insect groups every angler should understand: 1. Mayflies These are the classic "dry fly" bugs most anglers think of. They have a unique lifecycle that includes multiple fishable stages: Nymph Emerger Dun (adult) Spinner (final stage) Because mayflies take a long time to emerge and sit in the surface film, trout feed on them gently those classic sipping rises. A key insight: Mayflies are often most vulnerable during emergence, making emerger and cripple patterns incredibly effective.

2. Stoneflies Stoneflies behave very differently. Instead of emerging mid-river, they: Crawl to the banks Hatch out of the water Return to lay eggs by skittering or "splatting" on the surface This creates a completely different feeding response from trout: More aggressive, splashy eats One of the most surprising takeaways: During big hatches like salmonflies, fish may already be completely full from eating nymphs That's why sometimes fish ignore giant dry flies even when bugs are everywhere

3. Caddisflies Caddis are fast, active, and incredibly abundant. Their lifecycle includes: Larva Pupa (fast-rising stage) Adult (moth-like) Unlike mayflies, caddis emerge quickly and don't sit long on the surface. This leads to: Faster, more aggressive trout feeding (the classic "caddis rise") A big takeaway here: Fishing wet flies or pupae is often more effective than dry flies during caddis activity

Understanding Behavior Over Identification One of the most important themes in this episode is that you don't need to memorize every bug species. Instead, focus on: What type of bug it is (mayfly, stonefly, caddis) Where it lives (bottom, rocks, banks) How it moves (slow drift vs fast swim vs skitter) When it emerges If you understand those basics, you can: Anticipate feeding behavior instead of reacting to it

Hatch Timing and Strategy The episode also dives into how hatches actually happen and how to fish them. Key concepts: Hatches are driven by water temperature and seasonal timing Spinner falls are driven by air temperature Bugs emerge in predictable windows (morning, midday, evening) Some practical strategies: Fish nymphs before the hatch begins Switch to emergers right before activity Match surface patterns only when fish are clearly feeding up top They also highlight how: Cloudy, humid weather often improves mayfly fishing Sunny afternoons can be better for stoneflies Evening and even nighttime can be prime for caddis

Real Science Meets Real Fishing What makes this episode stand out is how the Salmonfly Project connects science directly to angling. Their work includes: Studying insect populations Tracking environmental changes Running angler-driven data collection They explain how insects act as "canaries in the coal mine"s howing early signs of river health changes before fish populations decline. This ties into a bigger message: Understanding bugs makes you not just a better angler—but a better steward of the river

The Wild Side of Bugs This episode also mixes in some unforgettable (and slightly crazy) insights: Caddis larvae build underwater nets and fight over territory Some stoneflies live underground and show up in people's wells Mayflies have been around longer than dinosaurs Certain bugs can literally "chirp" underwater to compete These moments highlight something important: There's an entire world happening beneath your feet that most anglers never see

The Big Takeaway If there's one idea to walk away with, it's this: You don't need to know everything about bugs— you just need to understand enough to predict what's happening. When you: Recognize the type of insect Understand its behavior Match your presentation accordingly You move from guessing… to fishing with purpose.

Final Thoughts This conversation is a reminder that fly fishing isn't just about casting or gear it's about awareness. The anglers who consistently find success aren't always using the fanciest flies—they're the ones paying attention to: What's happening in the water What stage the bugs are in How trout are responding And once you start seeing the river through that lens, everything changes.

Presented by: Patagonia, San Juan Rodworks, Intrepid Camp Gear

Henry's Lake fly fishing has a reputation that stretches across North America. Big trout, shallow water, legendary hatches, and a history filled with anglers chasing trophy fish.

In this episode, Phil Rowley sits down with Idaho native Darren Huntsman, a lifelong angler who has spent decades learning the nuances of this famous stillwater.

Darren grew up fishing nearby rivers and lakes, eventually falling in love with Henry's Lake for the same reason many anglers do—the chance to chase truly big trout in a bug-rich, shallow lake that fishes differently from almost anywhere else.

Sponsor: San Juan Rodworks

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Fly fishing in New Mexico offers an incredible range of water that many anglers overlook. From tiny mountain creeks hiding in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains to the famous San Juan River tailwater, the state delivers everything from technical dry fly fishing to big trout below dams.

In this episode, I sat down with Trisha Valdez to talk about growing up around the Mora River, how she found fly fishing later in life, and why local rivers often shape us more than destination trips. Trisha also shares the story behind New Mexico Lady Anglers, the community she founded to help more women get comfortable with fly fishing.

We get into small-stream fishing, the San Juan River, conservation challenges, and several New Mexico trout streams worth adding to your list.

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In this episode, Jeff Liskay breaks down the core ideas behind successful swung-fly steelhead fishing and why so many anglers struggle with it. Instead of focusing on gear or the perfect fly, Jeff explains that success starts with understanding where steelhead actually hold in a river. He shares lessons from decades of chasing steelhead across the Great Lakes, West Coast, and beyond, emphasizing how reading water, identifying structure, and recognizing current changes are the real keys to finding fish. Anglers need to think like hunters, targeting individual holding spots and learning to interpret the subtle clues the river gives about where steelhead are likely resting or traveling.

Jeff also dives into the mechanics of presentation—how casting angle, sink tips, fly depth, and swing speed determine whether your fly actually enters a steelhead's "strike window." Small adjustments in rod position, mending, and step-down pacing can keep the fly in the right zone longer and dramatically increase the odds of a grab. Throughout the masterclass, he explains how to evaluate conditions, execute a thoughtful swing, and adjust based on what the river and fish are telling you. The result is a practical framework that helps anglers move beyond random casting and start fishing each run with purpose and confidence.

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

In this episode, we dig into the science of a perfect fly cast with legendary casting instructor Ed Jaworowski. We talk about rod loading, loop control, timing, and the small mechanics that make a cast efficient and accurate.

Ed also shares how he learned alongside Lefty Kreh, and why mastering these details can keep anglers improving for decades.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/897

Sponsors: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Some fly tying skills come quickly. Others only show up after thousands of flies, years behind the vise, and a lot of mistakes along the way. Proportions, thread control, and material handling are things you really can't shortcut.

In this episode, I sat down with Dave Allison to talk about fly tying travel, the expo circuit across the West, and the patterns he loves tying when people sit down across the table. We also dug into the East Idaho Fly Tying Expo, one of the best tying events in the country.

Dave shared some great insights into dry flies, Quigley patterns, Wally Wings, the Found Link, and the small tricks that make a big difference when you're tying or fishing these flies.

Presented by: Fly Fish with me Utah, Drifthook Fly Fishing, TroutRoutes

Picture this. You're in Colorado with mountains in every direction, and the South Platte running just across the road.

In this episode, I sit down with Jason Pickerill and Jacquie Mosher from Mountain River Lodge. We talk about how this place began as a historic motor lodge and how they've upgraded it into a true base camp for anglers, hikers, hunters, and groups exploring some of the best water in the state.

We also dig into the Dream Stream, Mueller State Park, shoulder seasons, and why fall in Colorado is hard to beat.

This is the home base for our upcoming Landon Mayer trip, and we still have a couple of spots open. If you're interested, send me an email and put "Landon Mayer" in the subject line, and I'll get you the details.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/895

Presented by: AVC Rig, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Fish The Fly, Patagonia

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Long Island fly fishing isn't the first thing most people think of when they picture New York. Traffic, skyline, beaches maybe. But tucked behind all that is a network of spring creeks, salt marshes, kettle ponds, and over a thousand miles of shoreline that most anglers never see.

In this episode, I sat down with Paul McCain, owner of River Bay Outfitters — the only dedicated fly shop on Long Island. Paul's been building community, guiding anglers, and chasing everything from native brook trout to stripers for decades.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/894

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Fly fishing doesn't fall apart because it's too difficult. It falls apart because most anglers treat it like random casting instead of controlled hunting. Too many flies. Too many casts. Not enough intention.

In this first episode of Hunting with a Fly, I sat down with Joe to break fly fishing down to its core principle: approach it like a hunter. Read water like terrain. Move with purpose. Cast only when it matters.

Joe's message is simple. The anglers who consistently catch fish aren't guessing — they're stalking, positioning, and presenting with intention.

In this episode, we break down the full lineup of the Fly Fishing Bootcamp, a 12-session, multi-day event designed to cover the complete range of modern fly fishing skills. From fly casting mechanics with Kalyn Hoggard and Marty McVey, to steelhead strategy with Jeff Liskay, dry fly precision with Bob Lindquist, modern nymphing with Norman Maktima, trout fly tying with Mike O'Brien, two-handed casting with Jeff Putnam, bass tactics with Brian DeLoach, entomology with The Salmonfly Project, streamer strategy with James Garrettson, stillwater systems with Phil Rowley, fly tying mastery with Davie McPhail, and panfish tactics with Bart Lombardo.

This episode walks through what each instructor brings to the table, why these skills matter together as a complete system, and how you can join live to be part of the conversation. If you're looking for structure, clarity, and a full-spectrum approach to the season ahead, this is where it starts.

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Most anglers never think about where their flies actually come from or how an idea turns into something hanging on a fly shop wall. In this episode, Jesse Riding of Rainy's Flies takes us behind the scenes of commercial fly tying—from a small home operation started by his mother to one of the largest fly production companies in the world.

We dig into how flies are designed, how patterns move into large-scale production, and why materials like foam changed modern fly fishing forever. Jesse also shares insights on fly design royalties, innovation ethics, and what really determines quality when flies are tied across the globe.

#892 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/892

Sponsors: San Juan Rodworks

Gary founded San Juan Rod Works in 2020 out of his garage. Today, he's moved into a dedicated showroom and education space in Rio Rancho, New Mexico — built around community, casting, and conservation.

This episode walks through how to actually choose a fly rod without overcomplicating it — starting with species, then flies, then casting style.

Presented by: Patagonia, FishHound Expeditions, Fish The Fly, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

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Steelhead don't wait around long on the southern Oregon coast. They move with fresh water, travel tight to edges, and disappear as quickly as they show up. If you're thinking about Southern Oregon steelhead fishing, timing and water conditions matter more than hero casts.

In this episode, I sat down with James Sampsel of Humble Heron Fly Fishing to talk about winter steelhead on short coastal rivers, fall fish on the middle Rogue, and why Chinook on the swing isn't always the plan. James lives in Port Orford, guides year-round, and sees these rivers change daily. We covered storm timing, travel lanes, lighter sink tips, fall "Novembers," and even plein air painting between steelhead sessions.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/891

890 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/890

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge, Golden Fly Shop, On DeMark Lodge, Toyota Pacific

If you've ever swung a fly for steelhead and wondered where that pattern really came from, this one goes deep. In this episode, we dig into the history and evolution of Spey flies with John Shewey. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/890

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

Tim Sands is a fisheries management biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, focused on the Nushagak and Togiak districts of Bristol Bay. His primary job is managing commercial salmon fisheries — mostly sockeye — while also protecting Chinook, chum, pink, and coho moving through the system.

We covered how sonar counts guide daily decisions, what happens when too many salmon return, and why king salmon are struggling statewide.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/889

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Togiak River Lodge

I sat down with Bart Lombardo from Panfish On The Fly to talk about bluegill, pumpkinseed, crappie, perch, and all the warmwater species that are often overlooked.

We dig into why these fish are some of the best teachers in fly fishing, how they flatten the learning curve for new anglers, and why experienced anglers keep coming back to them. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/888

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Not every trout river fishes the same, and eastern Idaho might be one of the best places to see that firsthand. In this Traveled episode, we head back to Teton Valley Lodge with Brian Berry to explore how the South Fork Snake, Henry's Fork, and the Teton River each bring a completely different challenge depending on flows, seasons, and how you approach the water from a drift boat.

Brian walks us through how fishing changes throughout the year—from winter nymphing and streamer tactics to the explosive Mother's Day caddis hatch and summer dry-dropper fishing. We dig into boat positioning, reading subtle holding water on technical rivers like the Henry's Fork, and why staying flexible with river choices is often the key to a successful trip in eastern Idaho.

#887 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/887

Presented by: TroutRoutes, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Smitty's Fly Box

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Some people fall into fly fishing. Others get pulled in hard and never really come back out. Tim Arsenault fits squarely in that second camp.

From skipping school to chase salmon, to designing some of the most thoughtfully tuned Spey lines on the water, Tim's journey is all about curiosity, obsession, and learning how things really work. In this episode, we dig deep into Spey casting techniques, steelhead rivers, line design, and what happens when you stop accepting off-the-shelf answers.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/886

Presented by: Fly Fish with me Utah, Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes

For more than a century, bamboo fly rods have been built from the same bamboo. It was accepted as tradition, rarely questioned, and almost never tested.

Peer Doering-Arjes decided to test it.

Instead of relying on history or feel, he approached bamboo like a scientific problem. He traveled through Vietnam and China, worked with botanists and universities, and ran controlled tests on hundreds of bamboo samples. He measured strength, flexibility, and durability the same way engineers test modern materials.

What he found led to a different bamboo species that is lighter, easier to work with, and especially interesting for modern and two-handed bamboo rods. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/885

Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, TroutRoutes

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Progress in fly fishing often happens when you stop treating techniques as separate lanes and start combining them. In this episode, Brian DeLoach shares the hybrid system he's developed by blending Euro nymphing principles with heavy jig-style streamer fishing to efficiently target predatory fish.

Brian explains why stout leaders and heavier rods protect fish during the fight, why drift matters more than tippet visibility, and how changing retrieves—including dead drifts, jig motions, and active strips—can trigger aggressive eats. If you've ever wondered how to fish streamers more efficiently without sacrificing control, this episode gives you a complete system to try.

#884 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/884

Presented by: Patagonia

If you've ever wondered why some anglers seem to always be in the right spot at the right time, this episode digs straight into that idea. In this conversation with Simon Chu, we talk about New Zealand fly fishing, spring creeks in Montana, and why slowing down and walking often reveal what boat fishing hides.

Simon spends his seasons split between hemispheres, guiding and testing gear in some of the most demanding conditions on the planet. We get into Patagonia waders, sight fishing big browns, and the mindset shift that comes from hunting individual fish instead of covering water.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/883

Sponsors: Fly Fish with me Utah, TroutRoutes, and On DeMark Lodge.

Fly fishing has a way of making simple problems feel complicated. Your cast feels off, the presentation isn't doing what you want, and suddenly you're blaming everything in your hand.

In this episode, we dig into understanding fly line design with Zach McKnight from Cortland Line, and it's one of those conversations that can instantly clear the fog. Not by piling on more jargon, but by getting back to the one connection that quietly drives everything: rod to line to fly.

We also get into a little company history, why Cortland is working hard to be "the Cortland your grandpa remembers," and where fluorocarbon actually makes a difference when the water is clear and the fish are spooky.

Presented by: Mountain Waters Resort, AVC Rig, Togiak River Lodge, TroutRoutes

What if the hardest fly fishing in the world is not about numbers, but about patience, restraint, and waiting all day for one real chance? That is the game today's guest lives in.

Rick Kustich is back on the podcast. Rick has spent decades chasing some of the toughest fish on the planet, from Great Lakes steelhead and giant muskie to Atlantic salmon and windswept rivers in Patagonia.

He breaks down why strategy matters more than repetition, how small adjustments change everything, and what it really takes to fish at the highest level. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/882

Presented By: San Juan Rodworks, Fly Fish with me Utah, FishHound Expeditions

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Stillwater fly fishing rewards anglers who focus on presentation, depth, and efficiency rather than constantly changing flies. In this episode, Phil Rowley sits down with England's Howard Croston — former world champion, longtime England team member, Hardy product developer, and Fulling Mill fly designer — to unpack the tactical decisions that consistently put trout in the net.

From reading unfamiliar lakes and understanding stocked fish behavior to leader diameter, drift control, and eliminating "myths" about fly color, Howard explains how competition fishing sharpens efficiency and forces anglers to focus only on what truly matters. The result is a practical, systems-based approach any stillwater angler can apply immediately.

#881 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/881

Presented By: San Juan Rodworks , On DeMark Lodge, Toyota Canada

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There's a point in fly fishing where casting stops being the hard part, and decision-making takes over. In this episode, Dave Stewart is joined by Nick Elcheson from Scott Lake Lodge to break down sight fishing Northern Pike in shallow water, where patience, positioning, and timing matter more than power.

Nick explains why fly fishing for pike is essentially freshwater flats fishing, how seasonal water temperature controls fish location, and why waiting for the right fish often leads to better outcomes than covering water. You'll learn how small decisions near the boat affect success, how to approach shallow bays, and what separates a missed opportunity from a clean eat when targeting big pike.

#880 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/880

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions

In this episode, I'm joined by Orion Good, a Fishhound Expeditions guide who's quietly dialing in what actually works when the salmon don't show and the bead bite disappears. We dig into nymphing in Alaska trout nymphing, why the Duracell fly keeps producing when nothing else does, and how Orion locates fish in constantly changing systems.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/879

Presented by: Mountain Waters Resort

When people think about Newfoundland fly fishing, Atlantic salmon usually steal the spotlight. But tucked into the same rivers and lakes are some of the hardest-fighting brook trout you'll ever see, including sea-run fish pushing three to five pounds.

In this episode, I sat down with Les Wentzell to walk through brook trout fishing. We dug into timing, locations, flies, wind tactics, and why a simple dead-drift can outfish flashy presentations.

If you're heading to Newfoundland for salmon, this episode opens the door to a second fishery that's right under your feet.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/878b

Presented by: Smitty's Fly Box, Intrepid Camp Gear, Stonefly Nets, Togiak River Lodge

Today, we're digging into how fly rods are really designed. Not the marketing side, but what really goes into the design, the testing, and why some rods last for decades while others fall apart.

Zac Dalton from St. Croix Rods is on the podcast today, and he walks us through how fly rods are designed from the ground up.

We talk about rod action and why faster is not always better, what durability really means for anglers who fish hard, and how different actions change the way a rod fishes and casts. We also get into cork, handles, and we even touch on the conventional side toward the end.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/878

Presented By: San Juan Rodworks, FishHound Expeditions, Pescador on the Fly, TroutRoutes

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Fly fishing in Southern California looks nothing like a mountain river—and that's exactly why it works. In this episode, Frank Vargas breaks down how surf fly fishing actually functions, from reading tides and beach structure to understanding how species like perch, corbina, and leopard sharks use shallow water to feed and travel.

Frank shares how incoming and negative tides reveal feeding lanes, why anglers often walk past productive water, and how sight fishing in the surf can feel more like targeting carp than blind casting waves. This conversation covers gear, etiquette, safety, and why slowing down and learning to see the beach is the key to success in one of the most overlooked fly fisheries in the country.

#877 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/877

Presented by: AVC Rig

Most adventure rigs look great online. Fewer are built for real miles, real weather, and those long fishing days that end well after dark. In this episode, I sit down with Matt Dunkerly to talk about building camper vans that actually work for anglers.

Matt runs Adventure Vehicle Concepts, and his approach is refreshingly practical. This isn't about Instagram builds or overcomplicating things. It's about access, simplicity, and designing a rig that helps you fish more without getting in your own way.

If you've been thinking about a van for fly fishing trips, road travel, or long weekends chasing water, this episode will help you avoid the most common mistakes before you ever pick up a tool.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/876

Presented by: wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Streamer season is officially here in the Ozarks, and this one is all about slowing things down and fishing with intention. January kicks off the most aggressive window of the year, especially for big browns and smallmouth, and today Chad Johnson is digging deep into how they approach it.

He walks us through why post-spawn is such a key window for them, how aggression bites drive streamer eats, and why presentation matters more than fly choice.

If you fish the Ozarks (or any tailwater with changing flows) this is one you'll want to bookmark.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/875B

Sponsors: Togiak River Lodge and On DeMark Lodge

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Fly fishing doesn't fall apart because it's too hard. It falls apart because there's too much going on at once. Too many rods, too many flies, too many opinions, and not enough clarity about what actually matters on day one.

In this episode, I sat down with Phil Monahan to strip fly fishing back to its essentials. Phil's spent decades teaching, writing, guiding, and answering the same beginner questions over and over. His takeaway is simple. Most new anglers don't fail because they lack skill. They stall because they're overloaded with choices.

Phil's new book, The Orvis QuickStart Guide to Fly Fishing, is all about cutting through that noise and helping people catch their first fish faster.

Sponsors: Intrepid Camp Gear, Grand Teton Fly Fishing, and Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

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Most fly fishing gear is built for comfort. Some of it is built for performance. But very little of it is built with the assumption that conditions can turn from "kinda crappy" to "this could go bad" in a hurry.

That's where Grundéns comes in.

In this episode, I sat down with Justin Waters, who's right in the middle of translating nearly 100 years of commercial fishing toughness into gear that guides, steelheaders, and fly anglers lean on when the weather goes sideways. We dug into why durability beats "features," what guides actually do to destroy gear, and how the best product ideas still come from the hardest fishing jobs on Earth.

Presented by: Grand Teton Fly Fishing

This episode breaks entomology down into something you can actually use. Sawyer Finley, guide at Grand Teton Fly Fishing, explains how insects live, move, and emerge—and how trout respond to that reality, not just to textbook hatches. The focus is on observation, timing, and availability, not memorization. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/873

Presented by: Moccasin Fly Club

In this episode, I sat down with Nicolas Rivero to dig into fly fishing Patagonia. We covered the two-basin setup in Patagonia, the famous Limay River, giant brook trout in mountain lakes, and what a full April trip with Moccasin Fly Club looks like on the water.

If you're curious about swinging flies for migratory trout, fishing both lakes and rivers in one week, or planning your first Patagonia trip, this one's packed.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/872

Presented By: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Big Montana rivers can feel overwhelming, even for experienced anglers. In this episode, Alex from Montana Fly Fishing Lodge breaks down how he approaches iconic waters like the Yellowstone, Bighorn, and Stillwater Rivers—and why many anglers struggle to find consistency on large freestone systems. It's a practical conversation focused on simplifying decisions, reading water effectively, and understanding what really matters on big rivers.

We dig into fly fishing tactics like dry-dropper setups, nymphing adjustments, and streamer opportunities, along with how Alex adapts throughout the day as conditions change. Along the way, Dave also shares details on the Montana Fly Fishing Trip and Gear Giveaway, giving listeners a chance to turn these lessons into a real-world experience on Montana water.

#871 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/871

Presented by: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Fish The Fly, AVC Rig, Drifthook Fly Fishing

Somewhere deep in the Ozarks, Missouri splits in two. One side is farmland and highways. The other is the Eleven Point River, where everything goes quiet. No houses. No roads. Just cold, spring-fed water sliding through Mark Twain National Forest and miles of wild trout water where you can float for hours without seeing anyone.

In this episode, we dig into fly fishing the Eleven Point River and the surrounding Ozark streams with Justin Spencer. We talk about his indicator jig system, why movement matters more than anything, when the fishing is best, and how trout and smallmouth behave through the seasons. We also cover Missouri's trout parks, blue ribbon water, and how to plan a trip that actually fits the river. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/870

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Blooming olives were popping. Trout were rising everywhere. And Eric Johnson was sitting in a drift boat on the Missouri River, staring at one of those dry fly days you don't forget.

What makes this episode different is that Eric isn't a guide, brand rep, or longtime lodge regular. He's the actual winner of our On DeMark Dry Fly Giveaway, and this conversation is a full behind-the-scenes look at what happens when someone really does win one of these trips.

From the prize pack to the lodge vibe to the reach cast lessons and tiny flies fooling big rainbows, this is the whole picture, straight from the angler who lived it.

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Fly tying doesn't start at the vise. It starts standing midstream, watching bugs drift past your boots and paying attention to what trout actually eat. That idea runs through everything in this conversation.

In this episode, I sit down with Davie McPhail, one of the most influential fly tyers of our time. Davie grew up fishing Scottish rivers and lochs, learning fly tying the hard way. By watching insects, experimenting with materials, and tying flies that had to work.

We dig into traditional spiders, modern synthetics, proportions, durability, and why restraint at the vise still matters more than fancy materials.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/868

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

This Traveled episode connects with conversations sparked by the East Idaho Fly Tying Expo, where anglers gather to share patterns, techniques, and ideas that shape how we fish. Scott Sanchez joins us to break down one of the most important — and often misunderstood — feeding windows in fly fishing: the emerger stage.

We dig into how trout feed in the surface film, how to read rise forms correctly, and why classic wet flies and soft hackles remain so effective when fish aren't fully committing to dries. It's a thoughtful, observation-driven discussion rooted in time at the vise and on the water, and a reminder that good fishing starts with paying attention.

#867 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/867

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

Today's story bridges two very different worlds: the tight banks and icy tributaries of the Great Lakes, and the raw, tidal power of Western Alaska. Bailey Adamavich learned to fish where forty-foot casts matter and low water forces precision, then carried that foundation straight into blown-out rivers, chrome-bright kings, and some of the most intense Chinook grabs you can imagine.

Bailey was our guide on the Togiak River, and we talked through one of my best days ever swinging for king salmon. We also dig into how Great Lakes tactics translate to Alaska, why simple flies still win, and what it really feels like to guide a full Alaskan season. If you're curious about Chinook on the swing, Midwest steelhead and browns, or the leap from small water to truly big rivers, this one's for you.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/866

Presented by: Fish The Fly

Jason Balogh is back from Fish the Fly Guide Service to recap his season around Jackson Hole and break down how he introduces new anglers to fly fishing. We cover beginner-friendly gear, dry dropper setups, casting basics, and how to read water on big Western rivers like the Snake.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/865b

Sponsors: Togiak River Lodge, Smitty's Fly Box, and Jackson Hole Fly Company.

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Last month on the Madison, I watched a perfect example of why Trout Spey exists. Wind ripping. Skinny water. A high bank behind us. Indicator rigs are getting ripped out of the drift the second they touch down.

One angler finally stepped out of the rut, grabbed an 11-foot two-hander, and swung flies through water that had shut everyone else down. He wasn't being heroic. He was listening to what the river was asking for.

That moment frames this episode with Nick Conklin. We dig into Trout Spey setup, casting fundamentals, and why indicator fishing, high sticking, and swinging are all equal tools. The difference is knowing when to use each and being willing to adapt when conditions get ugly.

Presented By: Drifthook Fly Fishing, San Juan Rodworks, On DeMark Lodge, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Stillwater trout don't always eat because they're hungry — and that's where many anglers get stuck. In this solo episode of the Littoral Zone Podcast, Phil Rowley breaks down the power of attraction and explains why trout often strike flies for reasons that have nothing to do with feeding. When matching the hatch fails, attractor patterns can trigger responses rooted in curiosity, aggression, and territorial instinct.

Drawing from decades of stillwater experience, Phil explores when and why attractor flies work, how to fish them responsibly, and which patterns consistently provoke strikes from otherwise inactive trout. From blobs and boobies to FABs, worms, and exaggerated chironomids, this episode reframes how anglers should think about fly choice, presentation, and trout behavior in lakes.

#864 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/864

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

If you're trying to figure out where you can find giant stoneflies in July, chase technical midge eaters in March, and explore private spring creeks, all while staying in a five-star lodge that's not priced like Jackson Hole, this episode shows you exactly where that place exists.

Today we're heading into Swan Valley, right in the heart of one of the most epic fishing zones in the West, with John and Liz Douville, owners of River Retreat Lodge. We dig into how they ended up buying a lodge in the middle of COVID, why March might actually be one of the best fishing months of the year, and how this area quietly sits at the crossroads of the South Fork, spring creeks, big wildlife, and wide-open country. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/863

Sponsors: TroutRoutes, Fish The Fly, and Smitty's Fly Box.

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There's a certain kind of fly fishing knowledge you don't get from a quick scroll or a gear review. You get it from someone who's been there when the "new" stuff was being invented, watched it cycle back around, and saved the paper trail along the way. That's what this conversation with Jim Adams felt like: a walk through the hidden world of fly-fishing collectibles, rare books, and the history behind the gear we all obsess over.

Jim's story starts way back in 1943, tying his first fly at nine years old, and stretches through Florida Keys tarpon on bamboo, world travel, Alaska salmon research, and a lifetime of collecting and selling some of the rarest angling books and tackle out there. If you've ever wondered what makes a bamboo rod truly collectible, why some reels hit five figures, or how fly fishing keeps reinventing itself, this one's for you.

Presented By: Togiak River Lodge

Grant Wooldridge carries one of the most influential river-boating legacies in the West. As the great-grandson of Glen Wooldridge, who grew up on the Rogue River and helped pioneer early river boat innovation, Grant brings a family perspective shaped by generations of river travel and experimentation. While Grant was raised in Washington, the Rogue River stories and lessons passed down through his family remain central to the Wooldridge Boats legacy.

We dig into early wooden boats, the evolution of jet technology, and why Wooldridge Boats continues to balance innovation with durability and safety. From historic Rogue River runs to modern materials testing and restoration work, this conversation is about respecting river history while building boats designed for the future.

#861 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/861

Presented by: Intrepid Camp Gear, Togiak River Lodge, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Patagonia

Today, I sat down with Marcus Bohlin of Nam Products to talk through the things Scandinavian anglers think about differently. Rod length. True line weight. Leader diameter. Presentation. We get into why a 14-foot 7-weight can actually feel easier to fish on rivers like the Deschutes, how Baltic salmon behave compared to Atlantic salmon and steelhead, and why Sweden keeps coming up as a place more anglers should be paying attention to.

We also dig into Nám's leaders, why six-piece two-hand rods make more sense than most people expect, and how line choice matters less in some situations and more in others. This one reshaped how I think about modern spey gear and where it really comes from. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/860

Presented By: Mountain Waters Resort, San Juan Rodworks, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge

Tellis Katsogiannos has spent decades at the highest level of fly casting, earning world champion titles while helping shape how modern anglers think about efficiency, control, and simplicity. In this episode, Tellis shares how competitive casting sharpened his understanding of techniques, and how those lessons translate directly to real fishing situations.

We also head to Sweden and Atlantic salmon water, where Scandi systems and Spey-style thinking demand precision over power. From line design at Guideline to teaching anglers how to improve without overthinking, this conversation connects elite casting, salmon culture, and innovation into one clear framework for better fly fishing.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/859

Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Fly fishing has a way of pulling you back when you need it most. And for Mike O'Brien, those quiet hours on the water turned into a full-on career shift, from financial services to guiding full-time in Utah.

In this episode, we dig into what makes Utah such a sleeper fly fishing destination, why the Provo River is a legit year-round option, and the small tweaks that can turn a slow day into a "how is this even legal" kind of day. We also break down Mike's go-to winter and shoulder-season setup: the bounce rig.

If you've ever felt like you're "doing everything right" but the trout still aren't eating, Mike lays out exactly where to look, what to adjust, and how to slow things down enough to get the takes.

Presented by: Patagonia, Four Wheel Campers, Togiak River Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Josiah shares how subsistence fishing, military service, and conservation work brought him back home to build Bucks and Bones — a guiding program grounded in Hawaiian tradition, ecological responsibility, and world-class sight-fishing for big Hawaiian bonefish.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/858

Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Most anglers think they know Montana trout fishing until they stumble into the rivers nobody's talking about. No shuttle lines. No shoulder-to-shoulder boats. No mid-summer hoot owl closures shutting things down. Just cold water spilling off nearly 13,000-foot peaks and trout that still behave like trout.

That's exactly what we're digging into on this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Podcast. I sat down with Lincoln Power of Montana Fly Fishing Lodge to talk about a pocket of Montana that still fishes like the old days. Freestones, spring creeks, migrating browns and rainbows, and a lodge experience that goes way beyond the water.

If you've ever wondered what Montana looked like before the crowds, this one's for you.

Presented by: Pescador on the Fly

A fly rod that disappears in your pack but still fishes like your everyday rod sounds like a stretch. In this episode, we dig into why that idea actually works and why more anglers are turning to six-piece rods for travel, backup, and even daily use.

Jeff Ditsworth, founder of Pescador on the Fly, joins the show to break down how he rebuilt his rod lineup from the ground up. We talk about better blanks, tighter tolerances, and a new factory producing six-piece rods that feel just as smooth as a four-piece.

Jeff also shares stories from a recent trip to Austria, chasing wild brown trout in alpine creeks with a local guide who also happens to be the fish police.

If you travel with a carry-on, hike into water, or want a backup rod that doesn't feel like a compromise, this episode shows how six-piece fly rods fit into real fishing—from home waters to fly fishing in Austria. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/856B

Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Togiak River Lodge, Pescador on the Fly

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Steve Woit has spent years hunting down the stories behind fly-fishing's most influential figures — including Mary Orvis Marbury, whose Victorian-era writing documented flies and tiers before the modern industry existed. In this episode, Steve walks us through the research discipline behind Fly Fishing Treasures, his deep dive into letters, catalogs, photographs, and tackle provenance that reveal how anglers built a culture long before we arrived.

This conversation isn't about nostalgia — it's about protecting memory. Steve shows how writing, archiving, and conservation fundraising through donated tackle help safeguard fisheries and preserve the names and innovations that shaped our sport.

#856 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/856

Duane Hada joins Chad Johnson for a thoughtful conversation on what actually creates trophy trout fisheries—and why stocking alone isn't the answer. Duane breaks down the importance of catch-and-release regulations, managing pressure, and letting fish live long enough to reach their full potential. Drawing from rivers like the White River and the San Juan, he explains how conservation-first thinking shapes not only fish size, but the long-term health of entire fisheries.

Beyond fishing, Duane opens up about his life as an artist and how creativity, patience, and observation carry over from the studio to the river. He talks about seeing fisheries as living "gardens," the influence of Dave Whitlock on both his conservation mindset and artistic outlook, and why mentorship—on the water and off—matters just as much as catching fish. This episode is about legacy, restraint, and approaching both art and angling with intention.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/855B

Presented by: San Juan Rodworks, On DeMark Lodge, Four Wheel Campers

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

If you've ever stood knee-deep in a Western river wondering whether a trout spey rod might change your whole approach, this conversation with Howard Cole will get your wheels turning. Howard's spent a lifetime shaping flies, shaping cast loops, and shaping anglers at JD High Country Outfitters — and he brings a river-smart perspective on everything from trout spey dry flies to yellow sally emergers. Trout spey tips show up often in this episode, and they sneak into almost every story he tells from the Snake to the South Fork.

By the end of this episode, you'll probably be digging through your fly box looking for your own emerger patterns — or maybe even picking up a short spey rod for the next drift.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/855

Presented by: Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Intrepid Camp Gear, On DeMark Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Today, we're sitting down with someone who has lived two deep lives, one on the PGA Tour and one on the flats of South Texas. Phil Blackmar spent years competing against the best golfers in the world, studying pressure, tempo, and how to stay calm when everything speeds up.

Now he brings that same understanding to fly fishing, especially sight fishing for redfish and trout. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/854

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/smittys

Steve Smith breaks down the fundamentals of top trout flies, fly tying materials, and the patterns that continue to produce everywhere. We also get into how Smitty's Fly Box evolved, how he approaches local hatches, and why mastering proportions might be the most important part of tying a durable fly.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/853b

Presented By: TroutRoutes, Smitty's Fly Box, Four Wheel Campers

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

James Garrettson of About Trout takes us deep into the San Juan tailwater—well beyond the Instagram version—to show what really makes this river a world-class streamer fishery. He breaks down how big trout behave in frog water, why depth and stalls matter more than speed, and how his team consistently targets fish over 30 inches.

James shares the story behind a true San Juan giant, talks streamer setups, flow windows, guide etiquette, and why he spends every free day exploring the same river he's guided for a decade. If you've ever wondered how to fish deep, slow, technical water for outsized browns, this episode is the blueprint.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/853

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions

For the last ten years, today's guest has been fly fishing the Alaska road system and guiding the south central river, Lower Willow, Upper Willow, the Canyon water, and Montana Creek. He's one of the guides behind our recent Alaskan hosted trip and has a head full of stories that only come from rowing in a place where anything can happen.

In this episode, you'll hear what it was like from Will's seat on the sticks during our trip, why the bite shifted every day, how he chooses between bugs, beads, and buggers, and plenty of stories from the river.

Will breaks down how to actively jig, swing, and animate the Duracell and other flies while nymphing, and how they get trout, grayling, and even salmon to eat. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/851

#850B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/850B

Presented By: Intrepid Camp Gear

Sloan Hiatt, Manager at Intrepid Camp Gear, breaks down how his team designs rooftop tents and aluminum cargo boxes built for anglers, skiers, and backcountry travelers. He shares why Intrepid manufactures everything themselves instead of white-labeling, how they solved common space and durability problems, and what makes their gear stand out in the overlanding world.

We also get the story of Sloan's late-night bear encounter from a rooftop tent, plus a deep dive into his restored Land Cruisers, diesel swaps, and the 4x4 community that keeps these classic rigs alive. Whether you're camping, fishing, or chasing winter road trips, Sloan brings a builder's perspective shaped by miles of real-world use.

#850B Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/850B

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Four Wheel Campers, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

When you spend enough time around steelhead guides, you start to notice something: the truly fishy ones never stop learning. That's exactly the vibe I get every time I'm on the river with Pat Beahen. The guy reads water like it's printed in large font, and he's got this river-smart intensity that makes you believe a fish could grab at any second.

This episode pulls together decades of Pat's life chasing steelhead across BC — from Whistler beginnings to long seasons on the Bulkley and the Dean. If you're a Great Lakes angler looking to level up your swung-fly game, this one's packed with insight.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/850

Presented by: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Fish The Fly

Some stories follow you your whole life, and John MacLean grew up inside one of the most meaningful ones ever tied to fly fishing. In this episode, we look past the nostalgia and into the real heart of A River Runs Through It — the family, the grief, the responsibility, and the loss that shaped his father's writing.

John is a journalist and author of Home Waters, and the son of Norman MacLean. He's spent decades tracing the real events behind the book and the movie — the slow rise of the original printing, the truth of Paul's murder, the guilt Norman carried, and how writing became the only way to make sense of it all. This episode also follows John's own work, from fire investigations to his next book, marking fifty years of A River Runs Through It.

There's a lot here — family history, Montana stories, film moments, and the deeper current that still pulls at John today. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/849

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Chris Smith takes us inside the world of Team USA Fly Fishing, breaking down the systems, strategies, and Euro nymphing methods that have elevated American competitive angling over the last decade. From his first accidental competition in 2009 to mentoring youth anglers and preparing for the Idaho World Championships, Chris shares how confidence flies, rod-angle depth control, beat management, and communication across teams fuel the "medal mentality."

He explains the difference between French and Spanish presentations, how Team USA refined its intel-sharing model, and why volunteers at Worlds get front-row seats to world-class fishing. Whether you're learning Euro nymphing for trout or want to understand how top anglers think under pressure, this is a rare look behind the curtain of elite competition.

#848 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/848

Presented By: Mountain Waters Resort.

Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Atlantic Canada is home to some of the most storied salmon rivers in the world—and to one of the quiet powerhouses working behind the scenes to protect them. In this episode of the Wet Fly Swing Podcast, host Dave talks with Charline McCoy, executive director of the Foundation for Conservation of Atlantic Salmon (FCAS), about how a tiny team is helping safeguard Canada's wild Atlantic salmon across five provinces.

From replacing culverts and removing old dams to planting riparian trees and funding climate-focused research, Charline walks us through how FCAS has supported hundreds of conservation projects—and helped open up nearly 199 million square meters of salmon habitat. You'll also hear how warming rivers, shifting flows, and invasive species are changing the game for salmon, and why collaboration between governments, scientists, anglers, and local watershed groups has never been more important.

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Mountain Waters Resort, Togiak River Lodge, Smitty's Fly Box

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Marc Bale spent more than thirty years inside one of fly fishing's most influential companies. In this episode, he walks us through Far Bank history, the early Sage days, the rise of Rio, the Redington years, and the philosophies that kept everything from collapsing under its own growth.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/847

Presented by: Patagonia

If you've ever stood in a cold river and trusted your waders with your whole day, you know how much depends on them. This week, we unpack the story behind the Patagonia Swiftcurrent Waders, how they're built, why they matter, and what Patagonia is doing to make them better for both anglers and the planet.

Kate Hadeka and Nick Blixt join us to talk about how these waders are built, why they last, and what Patagonia is doing to make gear that's easier to repair, better for the planet, and still made for hard days on the water. We dig into the shift away from forever chemicals, how repairable panels actually work, and why durability is one of the biggest wins for conservation.

If you're curious what makes these waders different or where Patagonia is headed next, this conversation has plenty to chew on. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/846

Presented By: TroutRoutes, FishHound Expeditions, Montana Fly Fishing Lodge, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Lance Gray gives us a full guide-level breakdown of Northern California — from the Feather River steelhead runs to the stillwaters that shaped generations of Chico anglers. He talks about reading Davis and Almanor, when stillwaters light up, and why steelhead require technical knots, clean leaders, and perfect presentations. Lance also brings us into the heart of the Chico fly-fishing community, where teaching, mentorship, and his Guide School continue to shape new anglers. It's part NorCal fishing tour, part education deep-dive, and part love letter to the waters that raised him.

#845 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/845

Presented by: Intrepid Camp Gear, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

We sit down with Nick Chambers of The Conservation Angler to talk about the current state of wild steelhead. Nick has spent more than 20 years studying these fish in their home waters, from the Skagit River in Washington to the spring-fed systems of southern Oregon. He has snorkeled over reds, gathered juvenile dispersal data, and followed steelhead migrations across entire watersheds.

We dig into what the latest research is showing, why some rivers continue to support strong wild fish while others decline, and how early life history plays a major role in long-term survival. Nick also shares the surprising connection between steelhead and Atlantic salmon, and what it means for future management and conservation efforts.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/844

Presented by: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

When Kelly Galloup shows up, you know it's about to get good. In this episode, Chad sits down with one of the most influential voices in modern streamer fishing for a deep dive into Best Streamer Strategies for Giant Trout, wild eats, and the stories that shaped today's big-fly game.

If you've ever thrown a streamer and wondered how the masters make it look easy, this conversation is your front-row seat. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/843

Presented By: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho, Intrepid Camp Gear, Mountain Waters Resort.

Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

If you've been dreaming about Deschutes fly fishing with less pressure and more solitude, today's episode is your roadmap. We sit down with Warm Springs tribal member and guide Randy Nathan, owner of the Eagle Crossing Restaurant at the Deschutes River crossing, to talk about what it really takes to fish the reservation side: permits, timing, access, and the flies that consistently get eats. From steelhead season strategies to the famed salmonfly hatch, Randy shows why this river is one of the best classrooms in the world for anglers of every level.

You'll hear how Randy learned from pioneering Warm Springs guide Al Bagley, why he launched Native Adventures, and how he's teaching the next generation to do it right. We also cover rebounding steelhead numbers, how the Pelton dam "mixing" changed bugs and temps, and Randy's favorite trout and steelhead patterns (including his secret "Tiger Chubby"). If Deschutes River trout fishing or winter steelhead on the swing is on your list, this one's for you.

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

In this episode, we sit down with Joe Clark of Trout Yeah Guide Service to talk about his trout bum life. Joe has guided everywhere from Steelhead Alley to Pennsylvania spring creeks, and he's also coached Team USA Youth to three straight World Championship titles.

We dig into what it means to read new water with confidence, how to use drift angles instead of heavier flies, and why sensitivity and feel often matter more than the gear you're holding. Joe also shares stories from Idaho, Montana, and the Kootenays, along with his own experiences living the trout bum lifestyle one creek and one van trip at a time. If you're interested in becoming a more thoughtful angler and slowing down enough to see what the river is telling you, this episode has a lot to offer.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/841

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

There's nothing quite like chasing Alaska Chinook on the Swing. Imagine standing knee-deep in the Togiak, that wild pulse of Alaska running through your boots. The river's quiet and still... until a chrome-bright Chinook melts your 30-pound tippet like butter. Larry Richmann says it best: "All it takes is one swing."

Our guest today, Larry Richmann, is a Michigan-born guide who splits his year between swinging flies for kings in Alaska and chasing steelhead on the Saint Joe. In this episode, he shares how a self-taught spey caster found his home in Bristol Bay and why the Togiak remains one of the last true swing rivers for Chinook. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/840

Presented By: FishHound Expeditions, Smitty's Fly Box, Mountain Waters Resort, Jackson Hole Fly Company

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Ben Smith of Arizona Wanderings walks us across Arizona — from the high-country creeks that hold Apache trout to the canals and reclaimed ponds around Phoenix, where carp and tilapia lurk. He talks native-fish recovery efforts, the best shoulder-season windows for trout, small-stream tactics (long leaders, stealth, and micro presentations), and the surprisingly wide variety of warm- and cold-water opportunities within a few hours of the city. Along the way, Ben shares how he started blogging, why he still ties flies and furled leaders, and how junior angler programs are getting kids bitten by the fishing bug.

#839 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/839

Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory - Visit Idaho

Ever wonder what it's like to grow up where fly fishing isn't just a hobby — it's the family business?

Today we're heading to Eastern Idaho, where the Berry family has spent over a century guiding anglers through the waters of the Teton, Henry's Fork, and South Fork of the Snake. Our guest, Brian Berry of Teton Valley Lodge, shares the incredible story of how his great-grandfather turned a handful of guided trips in 1919 into one of the oldest operating lodges in the West.

Brian takes us deep into the history, craftsmanship, and conservation that have defined his family's life on the river — from wooden boats and stagecoach travelers to modern-day drift boats and the rebirth of wild trout in the Teton River. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/838

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Fish The Fly, TroutRoutes, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

In this episode, we dig into Central Texas fly fishing with guide and musician-turned-angler Alvin Dedeaux of All Water Guides. Alvin shares how his path from the music scene, where Nirvana once opened for his band, led him to become one of the top Orvis-Endorsed outfitters in the country.

We dive into the incredible diversity of Texas fly fishing, from Guadalupe bass on the Colorado and Llano Rivers to sight fishing for redfish on the Texas coast. Alvin breaks down when and where to find the best action, what makes Central Texas such a special place to fish, and how fly fishing here blends both fresh and saltwater adventures like nowhere else.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/837

Presented By: Togiak River Lodge, Fish The Fly, and Montana Fly Fishing Lodge.

Sponsors:https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Stillwater fly fishing in Alaska is one of the state's most underrated experiences — and George Krumm, editor of Fish Alaska Magazine, wants to change that. In this episode, George joins to share why Stillwater Fly Fishing in Alaska holds massive potential for trophy trout, and how understanding the lake's ecosystem can help anglers unlock consistent success throughout the season.

From post–ice-out timing and hover-line techniques to identifying scud-rich lakes and choosing the right presentation depth, George breaks down the essential strategies that make Alaska's stillwaters so rewarding. You'll also hear how local anglers can use stocking data, structure maps, and a little patience to find fish that rival the best rivers in the state — without leaving the road system.

Presented by: Visit Idaho

Nelson Ishiyama, owner of Henry's Fork Lodge, has spent over 50 years studying trout, bugs, and water, from the casting ponds of Golden Gate Park to the legendary pools of the Henry's Fork.

In this episode, Nelson shares how the lodge came to life with the help of a world-class architect and why he believes service and conservation should always be at the heart of a great fly fishing experience.

We also talk about:

• What it takes to build and protect a true fly fishing legacy
• His love for sight fishing on the Fork\
• The flies he trusts most

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/835

Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Intrepid Camp Gear, Stonefly Nets, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Kyle Glass (Trout Trap Flies) walks us through the strange, rewarding world of night mousing and trophy brown trout. He explains why big browns often feed at night, how tiny mouse imitations (the "Minnie Mouse") can out-fish giant patterns, and why glow tabs and glow lines are mainly tools for the angler—not bait for the fish. Kyle also breaks down his typical gear (6-wt setups, 9-ft rods, Maxima leaders), the logistics of night guiding on the White River, and how to present mice for the highest conversion rates (dead drifts with fast retrieves and deliberate pauses).

#834 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/834

Presented by: Smitty's Fly Box, Mountain Waters Resort, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Fresh off hosting our Steelhead School at the Skeena Spey Riverside Wilderness & Lodge, Jeff walks us through what makes the Skeena River such a magnetic place for traveling anglers.

We dig into the small details that make the biggest difference, like how shorter sink tips can unlock big water, why swing speed and fly angle matter more than you think, and how Great Lakes techniques translate perfectly to the wild rivers of BC. Whether you're new to two-handed casting or have been chasing chrome for years, you'll find plenty of tips and stories to level up your next swing.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/833

Presented By: Visit Idaho

Mike Komara walks us through the mindset of a competitor — and how that mindset makes you a better everyday angler. From hand-me-down rods in Pittsburgh to medals with Team USA, Mike explains why simplicity wins: a single-fly approach, smart microleader setups, and a handful of adaptable rods. We talk translating spring-creek precision to big western rivers, reading water and bugs the moment you step out of the car, and the small technical moves (tuck casts, inverted drifts, matching bottom speed) that turn drifts into fish. It's part practical how-to, part origin story, and a reminder that good fishing usually comes from thinking less about gear and more about the water.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/832

Presented by: Moccasin Fly Club

John Hunt of Moccasin Fly Club is back, and this time he'll walk us through two upcoming saltwater programs: the Double Haul Tournament in Xcalak, Mexico, and the Baja Blast in El Sargento, Baja California Sur. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/831B

Presented by: Mountain Waters Resort, Togiak River Lodge, Fish The Fly

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

We're diving into Newfoundland fly fishing with Kastine Coleman, a professional fly fishing guide, certified casting instructor, and leader of the Salmon Preservation Association for the Waters of Newfoundland and Labrador (SPAWN). She's also a board member with the Foundation for Conservation of Atlantic Salmon (FCAS) and has spent years balancing life on the water with hands-on conservation.

In this episode, Kastine shares how she's helping protect salmon runs through fish ladders, counters, and habitat restoration projects. We also dig into what it's like to guide across more than twenty salmon rivers in Newfoundland, her approach to teaching fly casting, and why late June is her favorite time to chase Atlantic salmon.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/831

Presented By: Mountain Waters Resort

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Few fishing experiences compare to the thrill of pursuing Atlantic salmon on a fly rod. In this episode, Calvin Tull shares his passion for Atlantic salmon fly fishing and the art of Spey casting, offering a glimpse into the patience, precision, and technique that define this timeless pursuit.

From scenic rivers to unforgettable encounters on the water, Calvin reflects on the lessons learned through years of fishing adventures and the subtle details that turn a good cast into a great one. Whether you're an experienced angler or just beginning your fly fishing journey, you'll find inspiration and practical insights in this conversation.

02:47 – He talks about how he transitioned from conventional gear to using fly rods and why that change completely reshaped his fishing journey. 05:28 – He recalls the moment he realized the power of the swing while learning to chase shad, describing how it sparked his obsession with fly fishing.

Fly fishing Photo Provided by - Calvin Tull

07:54 – He shares memories of his early mentors and how their patience and instruction helped him refine his casting and reading-the-water skills.

Watch How to Read The Water here.

10:36 – He discusses the excitement of planning his first major salmon trip and the nerves that came with trying something entirely new.

13:12 – He explains how preparation—fly selection, line setup, and practice—can make or break a trip before you ever step into the river.

Rifle Hitch Atlantic Salmon Tubes Photo Provided by Calvin Tull

15:47 – He tells a story about catching his first Atlantic salmon and the pure adrenaline that came with landing that unforgettable fish.

Atlantic Salmon photo Provided by Calvin Tull

18:34 – He laughs about the challenges of learning Spey casting and how it took dozens of tangled lines before things finally started to click.

Watch a 7-minute Spey Fishing Lesson for you! Click it here

21:05 – He opens up about the mistakes most new anglers make and how trial and error taught him lessons no book could ever explain.

24:02 – He shares his favorite types of flies, explaining why he prefers simple, durable patterns that hold up against powerful fish.

An assortment of expertly tied streamer flies, perfect for targeting Atlantic salmon in fly fishing

26:48 – He reflects on fishing local Pennsylvania waters, explaining how each season brings new species and fresh challenges to chase.

29:37 – He talks about how patience and rhythm matter more than technique when you're learning to feel the water's flow.

32:10 – He recalls one of his toughest fishing days when nothing went right—and how those experiences often teach more than perfect ones.

Fly fishing in a pristine river surrounded by scenic wilderness — an unforgettable outdoor experience.

38:09 – He opens up about the community aspect of fishing and the importance of sharing stories, tips, and time on the water with others.

41:03 – He explains the subtle connection between casting and mindfulness, saying both require focus, timing, and presence.

Tips on How to Focus and See More Fish - Click here!

43:57 – He shares his love for exploring new rivers and the excitement of not knowing what each cast might bring.

46:44 – He gives practical advice to beginners—keep your gear simple, watch the water, and don't rush the process.

49:22 – He tells a story about mentoring a young angler and how seeing others grow reignited his own passion for teaching.

52:15 – He reflects on how fishing has evolved for him—from catching fish to appreciating the journey, nature, and the friendships built along the way.

stunning Coho salmon freshly landed during a fly fishing adventure

52:15 – He reflects on how fishing has evolved for him—from catching fish to appreciating the journey, nature, and the friendships built along the way.

55:03 – He wraps up by sharing what keeps him returning to the water year after year: the peace, the challenge, and the endless lessons the river offers.

57:36 – He ends on an inspiring note, encouraging listeners to find their own rhythm, stay curious, and never stop learning from the water.

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge, TroutRoutes, Visit Idaho, FishHound Expeditions

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

In this episode, host Jeff Liskay and Dave Whitey Evans takes us into Bulkley River Fly Fishing. They dive into stories from the Bulkley River system, talk about what makes this water so special for steelhead, and share what life is like running a world-class fishing lodge in British Columbia. With Dave's humor and deep experience, this episode is a mix of laughs, wisdom, and a genuine love for fishing and community.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/829

Presented By: Smitty's Fly Box, Four Wheel Campers, Mountain Waters Resort, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Evan Griggs, founder of Fishing For All, walks us through Minnesota's surprising, varied fisheries — from tight spring-fed trout creeks to the big, free-flowing Saint Croix and the Mississippi in the Twin Cities. He explains why smallmouth migrate up to 80–100 miles each season, how guide days look (drift boats, 8-wts, mice and popper windows), and why locals are seeing epic multi-species opportunities — muskie, pike, carp, native sunfish, and big smallmouth. Evan mixes practical trip planning, conservation wins (catch-and-release protections), and stories about teaching new anglers and building a guiding business that shows people how close great fishing can be.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/828

Presented by: Visit Idaho, Fish The Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Patagonia

Ever wonder why some anglers swear by tube flies or why that little hitch on the surface can make a salmon go wild?

Today, we're hanging out with Jesper Fohrmann, the creative mind behind Fishmadman and one of the most passionate salmon anglers out there. Jesper's spent decades chasing Atlantic salmon and sea trout across Denmark, Norway, and the UK, perfecting flies and techniques that have earned a cult following from Scandinavia to Newfoundland.

We dig into why tube flies can outfish hooks, what makes the riffle hitch so deadly in cold water, and how Jesper approaches leaders, rods, and presentation. Plus, we talk about his favorite patterns, the Scandinavian underhand style, and how all of it connects to steelhead fishing around the world. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/827

Presented By: Mountain Waters Resort, On DeMark Lodge, San Juan Rodworks, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Texas Hill Country is its own little ecosystem — limestone banks, spring-fed creeks, and a species list that reads like a road map of surprises. Chris Johnson of Living Waters Fly Fishing walks us through why central Texas fishes year-round: the state-endemic Guadalupe bass, the only U.S. native Rio Grande cichlid, water that fishes like trout one month and bass the next, and a shop-led conservation program (Fly Fish the Republic) that's funding real science. We get practical rigging and fly choices (sink-tips and diving hair bugs for big bass, tiny jigs for picky cichlids), how to read fall windows for multi-species trips, and the backstory on a Texas-built fly line — the Texas Taper — developed with Scientific Anglers and sold through the shop.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/826

This episode of CJ's Reel Southern Podcast brings together two seasoned Arkansas guides, Morgan Guss of Diamond State Fly Co. and Matt Millner of Rising River Guides. They'll walk us through the White River's changing seasons and the strategies that keep anglers successful year-round. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/825

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/patagonia

In this episode, we sit down with legendary fly angler Craig Mathews to explore their new book Pheasant Tail Simplicity. Craig shares why fewer flies, better observation, and thoughtful presentation often lead to more success on the water. From fishing caddis hatches to choosing the right dry fly, this conversation is full of practical tips and timeless wisdom for anglers of all skill levels.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/824

Presented By: TroutRoutes

Erik Johnson of TroutRoutes (now part of OnX) returns to share how digital mapping is transforming trout fishing across the country. He walks us through new features like integrated OnX cartography, live stream gauges, offline maps, custom markers, and Android/iOS upgrades

Erik also talks about trout lakes, stream classifications, and how anglers can use TroutRoutes for everything from blue-lining in the Driftless to planning multi-day backcountry trips. Along the way, he shares insights on safety, boats and rowing, fly shop shoutouts, and what it's like to grow from a 5-person startup into part of a 400+ employee mapping powerhouse.

#823 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/823

Presented By: Pescador on the Fly

From shoulder surgery rehab to 10 guiding seasons across Rock Creek, the Blackfoot, and the Big Hole, Montana guide and photographer Drew Baker shares how he turned days on the oars into a career behind the lens. In this episode, Drew shows why the best Montana fly fishing photography tips aren't about megapixels—they're about telling a real story on the water.

You'll learn how to capture authentic moments (not just grip-and-grins), build a simple kit that travels well, and plan your shots so you protect fish and still come home with wall-worthy images. We also dig into summer strategy across Montana, when to pivot rivers, and the underrated power of the point-and-shoot in your waders.

Show Notes with Drew Baker on Fly Fishing Photography

02:57 - Drew shared how photography became his focus, noting that breaking into the hunting industry was easier than fly fishing since many fishing content creators were established early, but his passion for photos began with fly fishing.

04:30 - He recounted how rehabbing a shoulder surgery in college led him to daily fly fishing, on the advice of his physical therapist, which eventually turned into guiding in 2015.

06:08 - Drew explained that Philipsburg, Montana offers access within 90 minutes to major rivers like the Bitterroot, Blackfoot, Clark Fork, Big Hole, and Beaverhead, giving guides flexibility depending on flows and client lodging.

07:19 - He described guiding on the upper 14 miles of Rock Creek, where outfitters without Forest Service permits are restricted, and how this stretch provides prime opportunities close to town.

09:11 - Drew talked about his collaboration with Jeff from Pescador on the Fly, capturing lifestyle product photography and storytelling video while fishing on the Missouri.

10:28 - He discussed filming Happy Hustle masterminds, where entrepreneurs combine survival skills, fishing, and camping with business problem-solving, which has shaped how he organizes his own guiding and photography business.

14;21 - Drew explained that while phones can work for casual anglers, carrying a small point-and-shoot camera can inspire more creativity and story-driven photos.

16:19 - He detailed his pro setup: two Sony bodies, one wide-angle lens for scenery and one telephoto for wildlife or tight fishing shots, since swapping lenses mid-float risks water damage.

18:12 - On the Pescador shoot, Drew used his Sony A7 IV, a wide and tight lens, a DJI Pocket 3 gimbal camera for stabilized boat footage, and a drone to capture varied perspectives.

19:58 - He described how gimbals stabilize video, eliminating distracting shake, and why the DJI Pocket 3 has become a game-changer for filming on water.

22:03 - Drew highlighted the DJI Pocket 3's "creator combo," which includes a wireless mic with 10-bit float audio, ensuring clear sound even in high wind conditions.

24:31 - He emphasized must-have accessories like a circular polarizer filter to cut water glare, an air puffer to clear droplets before wiping a lens, and a waterproof camera bag to safely store gear but keep it accessible.

26:46 - Drew encouraged anglers to document the whole story of a day-sunrise, fly selection, facial expressions, net shots, and release rather than just grip-and-grin photos.

31:22- When asked whether photography or video tells a better story, Drew chose photography, explaining that a single strong image can convey a complete narrative.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/822

Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, TroutRoutes, Four Wheel Campers,

Drifthook Fly Fishing

Big browns don't always fall for big flies. Sometimes the secret is going smaller. On today's episode, we're digging into the world of fishing micro streamers with Brian from Trout Tornado.

Brian shares how downsizing can unlock the biggest fish in the system, why two-fly rigs shine during the minnow hatch, and the loop knot trick that makes streamers swim like they're alive. We'll also get into reading water, knowing when browns are staging, and how to fish them right. Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/821

Presented by: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Smitty's Fly Box, Intrepid Camp Gear, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Mike Bachkosky has spent more than fifty years on the Delaware River, watching hatches, studying rise forms, and learning every detail of this legendary fishery. As a signature fly tyer for Umpqua and a dedicated dry fly angler, Mike brings deep knowledge of sulphur hatches, rise form reading, and the history of classic patterns like the Haystack and the Unusual. In this episode, he shares his simple one-minute fly approach, why presentation often matters more than pattern, and his personal philosophy on dry fly design. We also discuss his work with the Delaware River Labradors and how dogs and trout have shaped his life on the water.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/820

Presented By: Visit Idaho, Smitty's Fly Box, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Kelly Reaume, co-founder of Backcountry Skinz, takes us inside the story of how a garage idea turned into a company that's reshaping how anglers wade. From breathable neoprene leggings to waterproof socks and lightweight pack-raft setups, Kelly explains why Skinz are becoming a go-to for float trips, alpine lakes, and backcountry anglers who don't want the bulk of waders.

We hear how the first 2 mm prototype gave way to a 1.5 mm design, why guides and DIY anglers alike are using them, and how he and his brother built the brand during COVID. The episode drifts through product strategy, pack-raft stories, marketing lessons, and the pride of keeping things personal as they expand into new markets.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/819

Presented by: Togiak River Lodge

For most of us, the spark that leads to fly fishing is a fish, a mentor, or maybe a trip. For Aaron Berg, it was a fire. When his house burned down, it forced a choice: keep welding or go all-in on guiding.

In this episode, Aaron shares how that turning point led him from fixing boats at Togiak River Lodge to running them, what he's learned chasing kings and silvers in Alaska, and how spey casting reshaped the way he fishes back home in Washington.

If you've ever wondered how passion turns into purpose—or how swinging a fly can shift the way you see fishing—this one's for you.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/818B

Presented By: Waters West

In today's episode of In the Bucket podcast, we're joined by Trevor Covich and Ed Fuhrken of Waters West Fly Fishing Outfitters. Both are long-time stewards of Pacific Northwest steelhead, guiding anglers while battling issues like habitat loss, hatchery impacts, and river access.

They talk about what it's like behind the fly shop counter: the tension between preserving wild runs and serving a growing demand for steelhead experiences. You'll hear stories about closures, managing stock versus wild fish, and how trout tactics don't always translate to steelhead crisis zones. Trevor and Ed also reveal the subtle art of timing your swings, staying wet when it counts, and treating every steelhead encounter like it matters—not just for you, but for the rivers downstream.

Along the way, you'll pick up practical advice: what fly anglers can do to reduce mortality, how to engage with managers and neighbors about river health, and why education and access matter just as much as gear. If you care about fish, fair futures for rivers, and how fly fishing can be part of the solution, this episode lands hard and hopeful.

#818 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/818

Presented by: Mountain Waters Resort, San Juan Rodworks, Pescador on the Fly, Fish The Fly

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Fly fishing Northern California means stepping into rivers rich with history and wild steelhead, and the Trinity River is one of the crown jewels. Tom Mahan of Swingwater Fly Fishing has built his career on these waters, chasing steelhead the classic way—on the swing. In this episode, Tom talks about why he loves transitional seasons, how grease line presentations and custom furled leaders move fish in clear water, and why the Lower Trinity feels like a "mini BC" when the fall fog sets in. If you're curious about targeting spooky steelhead in light flows, this is a must-listen.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/817

Presented By: Pescador on the Fly, Jackson Hole Fly Company, TroutRoutes, Intrepid Camp Gear

Sponsors: http://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Cuba has long carried a sense of mystery for travelers, and when you put a fly rod in your hand, that mystery only deepens. In this episode, Jon Covich talks about chasing bonefish, tarpon, and permit on the Cuban flats, the realities of travel restrictions, and how the culture of the island is just as important as the fish.

Jon shares what it's like to guide and host trips through World Fly LLC, why South America deserves more attention from anglers, and the practical lessons you need before booking a saltwater trip. The conversation drifts between history, people, gear, and stories that remind us why fishing new water is about far more than checking a species off a list.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/816

Presented by: FishHound Expeditions, Grand Teton Fly Fishing, Togiak River Lodge

Steelhead fishing on the Skeena has become a new backcountry for Riley Leboe. After years chasing podiums as a professional skier, he discovered a different rhythm on the water. One that carried the same adrenaline and spirit of exploration, but with a reward that felt deeper.

From his first chum salmon in Squamish to documenting Skeena Spey Lodge with Brian Niska, Riley has followed the pull of steelhead north. On today's episode, we trace his journey from filming ski lines to capturing the drama of swinging flies, and why the chase for steelhead keeps calling him back.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/815

Presented by: San Juan Rodworks, Intrepid Camp Gear, FishHound Expeditions, Pescador on the Fly

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

On this episode, we're heading to one of the most iconic steelhead destinations in the world—the Skeena River. Brian Niska, owner of Skeena Spey Riverside Wilderness & Lodge, talks all about Skeena steelhead fishing. Brian shares what makes the Skeena so unique, how the steelhead season is shaping up this year, and why having John McMillan and Jeff Liskay at the lodge is such a big deal. We also get into tips for adjusting your approach based on river conditions and how to get the most out of your steelhead trip.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/814

In this episode of CJ's Reel Southern Podcast, Chad Johnson sits down with Colorado guide, fly designer, and author Landon Mayer to dig deep into the art of hunting trophy trout. Landon shares how leeches became the centerpiece of his fly box, recounting the day a broken Slumpbuster pattern forever changed the way he approached big fish. The two swap stories about fishing together, the lessons passed down from mentors like Dave Whitlock, and the subtle craft of teaching casting fundamentals that can make or break a day on the water.

From Colorado stillwaters to Arkansas tailwaters, Landon explains how leech patterns double as damsels, baitfish, or crayfish depending on how they're fished — a versatile key for turning followers into eaters. Chad adds his own Ozark perspective, highlighting the region's emerging sulfur hatch and how local anglers are discovering a brand-new dry-fly game for giant browns. Together, they dig into small-stream tactics, big-river strategies, and why introducing overlooked food sources — whether a micro leech or a catalpa worm — can unlock fisheries in unexpected ways. It's a rich mix of tactical tips, storytelling, and philosophy on staying a lifelong student of fly fishing.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/813

Presented by: Visit Idaho

Today we're hanging out with Norman Maktima: world champ fly angler, guide, and all-around fishy guy. Norman grew up in Pueblo tradition, fished his way onto the international stage, and knows how small details can make a huge difference.

In this episode, he shares tips on reading water, watching for subtle changes in water levels, and selecting flies that work well in both competition and everyday fishing. We also get into how to stay sharp when every single cast might be the one.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/812

Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Mountain Waters Resort, Four Wheel Campers, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

If you've ever wondered about the rare trout swimming in North America's wildest waters, this episode is for you. Today, we chat with Gary Marston of Native Trout Fly Fishing, a lifelong angler on a mission to find and photograph every native trout species across the country. From high alpine lakes to remote desert creeks, Gary shares what it takes to chase these fish, why protecting their habitat matters, and how photography and storytelling can help us all care a little more.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/811

Presented By: TroutRoutes

Cameron Mortenson is back on the podcast as he walks us through the quiet revival of fiberglass rods, why glass still connects you to the line, and how a lifetime of tinkering with rods turned into a giant, searchable blog that helps anglers choose gear and find water. We talk about the TroutRoutes mapping app on a big Driftless trip, five practical questions to ask before you buy a fiberglass rod, travel-packing rules for bringing a quiver, and the joy of slowing down to feel the rod load again. It's practical, curious, and full of those gear-and-travel moments anglers love.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/810

Sponsor: https://www.wetflyswing.com/moccasin

Saltwater Fly Fishing is more than just chasing fish—it's about immersing yourself in incredible locations, learning new techniques, and building lifelong connections. Today's episode takes us deep into the marshes of Louisiana and beyond, exploring the magic of redfish, permit, and tarpon with a focus on both adventure and community.

Our guest, John Hunt of Moccasin Fly Club, has built one of the most unique travel-minded fly fishing communities in the world. From hosted trips and conservation efforts to unforgettable cultural experiences, John shares how the journey is just as important as the fish. By the end, you'll know when to chase bull reds, why the Double Haul Tournament is different, and how it can change the way you see travel.

Show Notes with John Hunt on Saltwater Fly Fishing

01:17 - John Hunt shares fishing reports from Colorado and New Mexico, plus how his lodges adapt to summer heat and the upcoming hunting season.

02:20 - Insight into the upcoming Double Haul Tournament in Xcalak, Mexico, blending saltwater fly fishing with community impact. Check it here.

06:37 - A weeklong experience with training days, three days of competitive fishing, prizes, and sponsor support for local guides.

08:03 - How Moccasin Fly Club lowers costs so anglers can chase permit and tarpon without a $10k+ price tag.

12:23 - John highlights his Louisiana program: three days of guided bull redfish fishing, affordable pricing, and an easy domestic travel plan. Check it out here.

14:58 - Redfish trips help anglers prepare for tarpon, permit, and other saltwater species by teaching heavy rod handling, sight casting, and fish fighting.

16:22 - John breaks down what anglers can expect: casting in wind, tailing fish, adrenaline pressure, and listening to guides.

18:18 - The Louisiana experience includes Cajun food, cultural exploration, and the history of communities shaped by hurricanes. Learn more here.

19:55 - Why 20–30 pound bull redfish return to the marsh after spawning and why late fall/winter is the best time to target them.

23:48 - How hosted trips turn strangers into lifelong fishing friends, with anglers often mixing boats to learn from each other.

26:00 - John walks through a sample Louisiana trip: airport pickup, group dinners, three days of fishing, and easy departure.

34:37 - John explains how Moccasin Fly Club fosters connections that extend beyond trips, building a travel-minded fishing community.

If you want to learn more. Click it here!

36:47 - John was talking about the Top 3 Tips for Redfish. Ask questions before casting, Don't rip line out too fast — it spooks fish more than a bad cast and Keep it light and fun — attitude impacts success as much as skill.

Wanted to Learn more about Fishing, Hunting, and Gear Trips. Check this out!

Watch the Moccasin Fly Club - Fishing, Hunting, and Gear Trips Around the World

50:30 - Why community is key — sharing spots, travel advice, and trust only works when anglers become friends through these trips.

56:56 - John explains how Moccasin supports both hosted and independent travel — helping anglers find guides, DIY fish, or build their own trips.

58:15 - The mission — Moccasin Fly Club lowers barriers to travel, offers affordable programs, and helps more people get on the water.

You can find the guest on Moccasin Fly Club Instagram and Moccasin Fly Club Website

Top 10 tips of Redfish Saltwater Fly Fishing Bullet Points for Blog Post:

Ask questions and communicate with your guide before casting.

Don't rip your line out immediately if you miss—let the fish react first.

Keep the mood light; attitude matters as much as accuracy.

Redfish trips are the best training ground for future saltwater adventures.

Timing is key—mid-October to January offers the best shots at bull reds.

Practice casting with 9- and 10-weight rods to prepare for big saltwater species.

Pay attention to local culture—food, music, and community add to the experience.

Mix up boat groups to learn from others and build friendships.

Be ready for multiple species: redfish, black drum, sheepshead, and even sharks.

Remember—it's fishing, not catching. Stay positive and enjoy the hang. Moccasin Fly Club Saltwater Fly Fishing

Conclusion with John Hunt on Saltwater Fly Fishing

Saltwater fly fishing offers so much more than just a shot at the "bucket list" species. As John Hunt shared, trips like the Louisiana bull redfish adventure provide one of the best entry points for anglers new to the salt. From casting nine-weights at 20+ pounds saltwater redfish to building confidence for bigger species like tarpon and permit, these experiences are both affordable and action-packed. Add in Cajun food, cultural richness, and the community vibe created on hosted trips, and it's clear why anglers return year after year.

Whether your goal is chasing bull reds in the Louisiana marsh or preparing for international adventures like the Double Haul Tournament in Mexico, John's insights remind us that saltwater fly fishing is about growth, connection, and the joy of the journey.

Have you fished for Saltwater Redfish before, or is it still on your list? Share your experience in the comments — we'd love to hear your story.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/809

Presented by: Drifthook Fly Fishing, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Patagonia, Togiak River Lodge

What makes an angler who's fished around the world still pick the ankle-deep Bahamas flats fishing?

For Bruce Chard, the answer is bonefish. In this episode, Bruce shares why they're his favorite species, what makes South Andros so special, and how to handle quick-fire shots in windy conditions.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/808

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

In this episode, Jeff Liskay, your "Great Lakes Dude", dives deep into the skunked angler's survival guide. From steelhead slumps to blown-out lake days, Jeff shares how he adjusts on the fly, learns from tough conditions, and finds success even when the odds are stacked against him. This episode was inspired by real conversations at the boat ramp with anglers wondering what to do after getting skunked. Jeff's answer? Start solving the puzzle.

Whether you're struggling with fly selection, pressure, or just can't seem to find fish, this episode is packed with tactical tips and hard-earned wisdom from 250 days a year on the water.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/807

Presented by: On DeMark Lodge, Drifthook Fly Fishing, Jackson Hole Fly Company, Patagonia

In this episode, we dive into Jeff Putnam's straightforward approach to spey casting, built on feel, timing, and simplicity. Jeff walks us through the four steps to better spey casting, common mistakes he sees on the water (and how to fix them), and what to do when your confidence takes a hit mid-swing. (We've all been there!)

We also get into the evolution of spey lines and rods, the Rogue River, Northern California, and tips for everything from trout with a three-weight to winter steelhead on big rivers.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/806

Presented By: Stonefly Nets, Intrepid Camp Gear, Mountain Waters Resort, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Ever find yourself standing on a river's edge, the line in the water, and somehow everything makes sense, even when nothing should? That's where I landed with Jonathan "Jon" Gluck, a writer, editor, and fly-fishing lifer—or at least, someone whose lifeline came through steelhead-strength treatments and the quiet grace of a swing.

Jon was told he had about 18 months to live after a multiple myeloma diagnosis more than two decades ago. Instead of slowing down, he found healing where you'd expect it least—in the gentle arc of a cast, the flash of the fly, the now. There's a lot of power in An Exercise in Uncertainty, his memoir, but even more in the way Jon leans into what fishing gives us: calm, clarity, and a reminder that presence is everything.

#805 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/805

Presented by: Stonefly Nets, Intrepid Camp Gear, San Juan Rodworks

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Phil Rowley breaks down the world of sinking lines—why and when to use them, how to pick the right one, and the tricks that make them effective. From understanding sink rates and densities to choosing leaders and rigging setups, Phil shares practical tactics that can help you fish deeper and smarter on lakes.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/804

Presented by: TroutRoutes

If you're curious about Michigan steelhead and salmon fishing, this episode is for you.

Christian Gradowski swings streamers under city bridges, strips flies for kings in water warmer than most trout would tolerate, all while capturing it all on film.

You'll learn how to read tricky currents without obvious structure, get prepped for Great Lakes kings, and why July bass fishing can actually teach you how to swing in November. Christian keeps it real, sharing stories from the gravel runs of the Muskegon to the busy Grand River, where steelhead stack up under freeway overpasses.

Find out why stripping streamers could be your new go-to and how glow-headed flies help get bites in cold water.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/803

Presented By: Intrepid Camp Gear

Mckenzie Johns' fly fishing road trips have taken her from small Pennsylvania streams to epic solo journeys across the Rockies. On her recent fly fishing road trip from Colorado to Alberta, Mckenzie combined her passion for trout fishing with the freedom of rooftop tent camping, traveling with her blue heeler, and testing the Intrepid Geo Solo tent. Along the way, she shared how fitness helps her stay strong and confident outdoors, making long days on the river and setting up camp effortless. Her approach blends gear know-how, solo travel safety, and a love for exploring wild, beautiful places.

For women looking to plan their own fly fishing road trips, Mckenzie's story shows it's possible to merge fishing, camping, and fitness into one unforgettable experience. From choosing the right tent and packing fly fishing essentials to embracing solo travel and building outdoor strength, her advice encourages confidence on and off the water. Whether on a calm lake, a fast-moving river, or a mountain campsite, Mckenzie Johns proves that fly fishing road trips—when combined with skill, preparation, and passion—lead to adventures worth remembering.

01:14 - Mckenzie Johns was introduced to fly fishing by her father in Pennsylvania, stepped away from it for years, and reignited her passion after catching her first trout at Deckers, Colorado, about 7–8 years ago. She is now in Canmore, Alberta, preparing for her first fishing trip with her father since 2019, highlighting the deep bond they share through the sport.

05:46 - Mckenzie Johns discussed her Intrepid Camp Gear setup, which she tested during an eight-day solo road trip from Colorado to Canada. She uses a 2024 Toyota 4Runner equipped with a Geo Solo rooftop tent and a 190 cargo box, a combination that keeps her organized, allows for quick setup in under two minutes, and provides safety and comfort, especially valuable for solo female travel in remote, scenic locations. For more information, view here.

12:45 - Mckenzie Johns explained that when she first committed to fly fishing, she relied on guidance from her then-partner, supplemented by podcasts, YouTube tutorials, and self-study, but ultimately improved through hands-on practice. She identified casting as her biggest early challenge, starting with Euro-nymphing before transitioning to traditional fly fishing, and now relies on a few "confidence" patterns—especially a size 18 perdigon, flashback hare's ear, and hopper-dropper rigs with a chubby Chernobyl and egg pattern—favoring an intuitive approach over strict hatch-matching.

19:03 - Mckenzie Johns shared that she hasn't been Euro-nymphing much lately, instead fishing with an indicator setup holding two to three subsurface flies—often using a bright pink indicator for visibility. With rivers blown out from recent rain, she's considering lakes while enjoying the rare chance to fish alongside her father, a dedicated trout angler from Connecticut who's always ready to pull out a fly rod whenever he's near water.

22:18 - Mckenzie Johns said road trips let her explore beyond Colorado into places like Wyoming, Montana, and now the Canadian Rockies—finding beauty in the landscapes and the waters she fishes. Her tip for a long journey is to research for safety but embrace solo travel for its empowerment, noting that a reliable vehicle like her Toyota 4Runner makes it easier to be ready for adventure anywhere.

29:15 - Mckenzie Johns described how her fitness journey began from a low point in her life, where hiking in New Hampshire sparked the realization that better physical health would let her enjoy the outdoors more fully. After moving to Colorado, she shifted her mindset from exercising for appearance to training for strength, endurance, and mental clarity—eventually embracing home workouts and even coaching other women to build the fitness needed to explore and adventure confidently.

35:00 - Mckenzie Johns explained that anyone can start a fitness journey at home with just a yoga mat, a few sets of dumbbells, and a focus on weightlifting mixed with some cardio, noting that expensive equipment or a gym membership isn't necessary. She also shared how the fly fishing community has become more inclusive for women in recent years, though challenges remain, and emphasized the importance of female-led groups that create safe, welcoming spaces for beginners to learn and grow in the sport.

46:18 - Mckenzie Johns advised that anyone looking to improve their health can start small with regular walking for low-impact cardio and basic stretching to keep muscles limber before and after activities. She also shared about her blue heeler, Sari—nicknamed "Smooch" for her affectionate nature—who often joins her adventures and enjoys relaxing in their rooftop Geo Solo tent, where she can watch the outdoors through the open windows.

50:26 - Mckenzie Johns shared that she still uses her first fly rod, a nine-foot five-weight Orvis Clearwater, which has proven versatile for Colorado waters, and that she often wet wades in warm weather but relies on her well-patched Patagonia waders—purchased secondhand—when conditions call for it. On the road, she enjoys a collaborative Spotify playlist she created with her social media followers, featuring a mix of genres from classic rock to pop, including songs by Kansas that bring back fond memories of time spent with her dad. If you're looking for the playlist, go here.

57:43 - Mckenzie Johns said this Canadian Rockies road trip has inspired her to return next summer for a longer stay when the fishing conditions are at their peak. She took eight days to make the nearly 2,000-mile drive from Boulder, savoring stops in Wyoming, Montana, and along the scenic Trans-Canada Highway through British Columbia before arriving in Canmore.

Conclusion with Mckenzie John on Fly Fishing Camping

In this episode, Mackenzie Johns shares her journey into fly fishing and camping, from her solo road trip across the Rockies to testing the Intrepid Geo Solo rooftop tent. She talks about her blue heeler travel companion, how fitness plays a role in her outdoor adventures, and tips for women looking to start their own fishing and camping journeys. Along the way, Mackenzie offers gear advice, safety insights, and encouragement for embracing the outdoors with confidence.

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