<![CDATA[Enneagram Interviews: What It's Like To Be You]]>0ef72d15-bb47-5d7d-9774-23475f21ad09Thu, 05 Feb 2026 02:53:22 +0000Captivate.fmJosh Lavinehttps://artwork.captivate.fm/282e5ea3-f21c-4627-9b09-3c766b2bc830/Podcast-Cover-What-It-s-Like-To-Be-You-1.pngEnneagram Interviews: What It's Like To Be YouJosh LavineJosh LavineIntimate interviews with all Enneagram types. Produced by The Enneagram School & hosted by Josh Lavine. Watch on YouTube @TheEnneagramSchool. https://www.theenneagramschool.com/podcasts/what-it-s-like-to-be-youtrueepisodichttps://feeds.captivate.fm/what-its-like-to-be-you/nopodcast#64: Enneagram Type 9 Panel#64: Enneagram Type 9 PanelDo you ever feel like you're trying to keep it cool, but you’re secretly raging under the surface?

If you're a Type 9, or close to one, you’ve likely wrestled with feeling overlooked, overextended, and underboundaried. This rich panel conversation dives into the lived experience of core Type 9s, shedding light on how the desire for peace often masks struggles with anger, identity, and merging with others.

Learn how the different wings (9w1 vs. 9w8) shape how Nines handle conflict, personal space, and boundaries.

Hear real Enneagram 9s describe how “merging” actually feels in the body, and why it’s not just a metaphor.

Discover the surprising assertiveness that emerges when a Nine feels truly safe and situated.

Tune in now to hear this heartfelt, funny conversation that will transform how you understand and embody the Nine experience.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


01:03 - Introduction of our 9 panel, type 9 description, topics of merging; boundaries, the body center


19:42 - Managing our sensory availability, handling 'violations', individuating while not dissolving, anger revealing needs/attention and performance


54:03 - ‘Premature buddha', 9s coming in to their power


01:04:42 - Type 9 in leadership, comfort vs 'finding the grooves' to fit in, being a part of the environment vs feeling energetic force fields


01:19:13 - Distinctions between 9w1 and 9w8, how a wing supports attachment, different forms of 'peacekeeping', frustration or rejection


01:46:30 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Do you ever feel like you're trying to keep it cool, but you’re secretly raging under the surface?

If you're a Type 9, or close to one, you’ve likely wrestled with feeling overlooked, overextended, and underboundaried. This rich panel conversation dives into the lived experience of core Type 9s, shedding light on how the desire for peace often masks struggles with anger, identity, and merging with others.

Learn how the different wings (9w1 vs. 9w8) shape how Nines handle conflict, personal space, and boundaries.

Hear real Enneagram 9s describe how “merging” actually feels in the body, and why it’s not just a metaphor.

Discover the surprising assertiveness that emerges when a Nine feels truly safe and situated.

Tune in now to hear this heartfelt, funny conversation that will transform how you understand and embody the Nine experience.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


01:03 - Introduction of our 9 panel, type 9 description, topics of merging; boundaries, the body center


19:42 - Managing our sensory availability, handling 'violations', individuating while not dissolving, anger revealing needs/attention and performance


54:03 - ‘Premature buddha', 9s coming in to their power


01:04:42 - Type 9 in leadership, comfort vs 'finding the grooves' to fit in, being a part of the environment vs feeling energetic force fields


01:19:13 - Distinctions between 9w1 and 9w8, how a wing supports attachment, different forms of 'peacekeeping', frustration or rejection


01:46:30 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>66f782b8-8a7f-40b0-ad13-dd5181797cabTue, 25 Nov 2025 06:00:00 -050001:47:38falsefull#63: Omar (SO/SP 6w7 693) – Being the “Hell Side of Attachment”, Punk Scene Irony, Finding Truth in the Split, and Crawling Back to Life#63: Omar (SO/SP 6w7 693) – Being the “Hell Side of Attachment”, Punk Scene Irony, Finding Truth in the Split, and Crawling Back to LifeOmar Sullivan (SO/SP 6w7 693) is an absolutely hilarious and insightful person, sharing how being a Type 6 and growing up with a loyalty to “doing the right thing” collided with an internal drive to poke holes in systems, ideologies, and even his own beliefs. We trace how a Type 6 mind pings between self-doubt and defiant clarity, often using humor as both camouflage and truth-teller—a sort of “jester’s privilege” that lets him say what others won’t. We talk about the contradictions within punk culture, the irony of the sustainability industry, and the emotional truths that surface when a 6 splits inward instead of seeking answers outside. We also touch on the mental gymnastics of manufacturing certainty, ego fixation in relationships, and how being “the man behind the memes” reveals the necessity of division before integration.This is a loaded conversation exploring the energy of 6, the comedy of self-awareness, and how creative life often begins at the fracture point.


LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:52 - Improv in college and creating a lasting impact, anti-elitism and 6 leadership, super-ego and doing the 'right thing'


14:39 - Making self laugh, ping-ponging, the humor of 6w7, "the jester's privilege", irony and playing offense to play defense, 3w2 vs 3w4 exploration


28:15 - Pointing out the contradictions and irony of the punk scene, so/sp call-outs within the culture, questioning authenticity

37:34 - Holding contradictions within self, community orientation of 6, finding resonances within 'scenes', frustration turns to the eternal seeker, taking things to the extreme to understand it


45:02 - Creative tension: the duality of 6s, inner split exposing emotional truths in creativity, getting into Omar's novel and the so/sp 6 arch


58:07 - Humor as a survival mechanism, intellectual and detached comparative to 'fighter', relationship to confidence and the 'dark truth'


01:06:01 - Manufacturing a sense of certainty through the mental center, better understanding reality, feeling social stability versus rejection


01:16:08 - Not pinning self to external explanation: bermuda's tuning inward, so/sp not contextualizing actions in the collective sense, being affected causing alienation


01:21:57 - Reinventing self, 'letting loose', being creatively fueled through adventures, the mental imagery of crawling back to life


01:31:19 - Navigating relationships and ego fixations, "the truth won't save you", 6 being the hell side of attachment type; roasting 6s


01:42:34 - 6's splitting showing ugly necessity of division prior to integration, “the man behind the memes”


01:47:57 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Omar Sullivan (SO/SP 6w7 693) is an absolutely hilarious and insightful person, sharing how being a Type 6 and growing up with a loyalty to “doing the right thing” collided with an internal drive to poke holes in systems, ideologies, and even his own beliefs. We trace how a Type 6 mind pings between self-doubt and defiant clarity, often using humor as both camouflage and truth-teller—a sort of “jester’s privilege” that lets him say what others won’t. We talk about the contradictions within punk culture, the irony of the sustainability industry, and the emotional truths that surface when a 6 splits inward instead of seeking answers outside. We also touch on the mental gymnastics of manufacturing certainty, ego fixation in relationships, and how being “the man behind the memes” reveals the necessity of division before integration.This is a loaded conversation exploring the energy of 6, the comedy of self-awareness, and how creative life often begins at the fracture point.


LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:52 - Improv in college and creating a lasting impact, anti-elitism and 6 leadership, super-ego and doing the 'right thing'


14:39 - Making self laugh, ping-ponging, the humor of 6w7, "the jester's privilege", irony and playing offense to play defense, 3w2 vs 3w4 exploration


28:15 - Pointing out the contradictions and irony of the punk scene, so/sp call-outs within the culture, questioning authenticity

37:34 - Holding contradictions within self, community orientation of 6, finding resonances within 'scenes', frustration turns to the eternal seeker, taking things to the extreme to understand it


45:02 - Creative tension: the duality of 6s, inner split exposing emotional truths in creativity, getting into Omar's novel and the so/sp 6 arch


58:07 - Humor as a survival mechanism, intellectual and detached comparative to 'fighter', relationship to confidence and the 'dark truth'


01:06:01 - Manufacturing a sense of certainty through the mental center, better understanding reality, feeling social stability versus rejection


01:16:08 - Not pinning self to external explanation: bermuda's tuning inward, so/sp not contextualizing actions in the collective sense, being affected causing alienation


01:21:57 - Reinventing self, 'letting loose', being creatively fueled through adventures, the mental imagery of crawling back to life


01:31:19 - Navigating relationships and ego fixations, "the truth won't save you", 6 being the hell side of attachment type; roasting 6s


01:42:34 - 6's splitting showing ugly necessity of division prior to integration, “the man behind the memes”


01:47:57 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>036eb9bc-bd1a-4f15-9abe-bceac046a8beTue, 26 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -050001:50:07falsefull#62: Celia Murnock (SP/SO 6w5 613) - Wearing a Seatbelt Through Life, Making Things More Good (Not Just Less Bad), and Certainty as a Moving Target#62: Celia Murnock (SP/SO 6w5 613) - Wearing a Seatbelt Through Life, Making Things More Good (Not Just Less Bad), and Certainty as a Moving TargetCelia Murnock (SP/SO 6w5 613) is a Type 6 whose intellectual clarity and emotional precision root our conversation in complexity: her passion for biomedical anthropology becomes a metaphor for her life’s work — finding and teasing out gray areas in a world that demands black-and-white answers. We trace the architecture of Six through her eyes: the struggle to trust her own mind, the looping vigilance against being naïve, and the quiet grief of feeling like the adult in the room since childhood. The conversation moves fluidly between micro and macro, from early recognitions of injustice to the moral orientation that propels her forward — often at great personal cost. We explore the distinctions between 6w5 and 6w7: the cagey inner withdrawal, the instinct to "snip the threads" before attachment hurts too much, and the quiet resistance to being shaped by others’ expectations.


LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:42 - Interests and pathways in education and career. Biomedical anthropology: finding and teasing out the gray areas, solving intricate/systemic problems


12:28 - Not trusting the human mind; the finite and subjective experience, 6s horrified awareness, understanding and orienting to reality and certainty


21:27 - 6w5 versus 6w7, 5 wanting to 'snip the threads', sensitivities to attachment 'mismatches'


26:05 - Childhood recognitions of morality, 6s realism and 'calling out the thing', an inherent obligation to not be short-sighted by clarity and subjectivity, self-justification to 'making a stink'


39:09 - Structural rigidity, macro vs micro and personal philosophies of life, stepping away from the microscope, injustices of the world


47:33 - "Too many arteries bleeding"; super-ego of 6, being a porcupine or a bottle of soda that's been shaken, inner pressure, wearing a seatbelt in life


56:51 - Struggling to find serenity, current life situation and tracking decisions through type structure, identity wrapped up into being the certainty


01:11:35 - Making things more good instead of less bad, 'soul purpose'; depth over breadth

01:22:20 - 6w5 cagey nature, "I'm not trying to not touch you, I'm trying to keep you from touching me", private internal withdrawal, not signing the contract, expectations vs responses


01:30:48 - Making a mess, cleaning up after ourselves, 6-1 stem reflections, resignation with attachments


01:37:10 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Celia Murnock (SP/SO 6w5 613) is a Type 6 whose intellectual clarity and emotional precision root our conversation in complexity: her passion for biomedical anthropology becomes a metaphor for her life’s work — finding and teasing out gray areas in a world that demands black-and-white answers. We trace the architecture of Six through her eyes: the struggle to trust her own mind, the looping vigilance against being naïve, and the quiet grief of feeling like the adult in the room since childhood. The conversation moves fluidly between micro and macro, from early recognitions of injustice to the moral orientation that propels her forward — often at great personal cost. We explore the distinctions between 6w5 and 6w7: the cagey inner withdrawal, the instinct to "snip the threads" before attachment hurts too much, and the quiet resistance to being shaped by others’ expectations.


LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:42 - Interests and pathways in education and career. Biomedical anthropology: finding and teasing out the gray areas, solving intricate/systemic problems


12:28 - Not trusting the human mind; the finite and subjective experience, 6s horrified awareness, understanding and orienting to reality and certainty


21:27 - 6w5 versus 6w7, 5 wanting to 'snip the threads', sensitivities to attachment 'mismatches'


26:05 - Childhood recognitions of morality, 6s realism and 'calling out the thing', an inherent obligation to not be short-sighted by clarity and subjectivity, self-justification to 'making a stink'


39:09 - Structural rigidity, macro vs micro and personal philosophies of life, stepping away from the microscope, injustices of the world


47:33 - "Too many arteries bleeding"; super-ego of 6, being a porcupine or a bottle of soda that's been shaken, inner pressure, wearing a seatbelt in life


56:51 - Struggling to find serenity, current life situation and tracking decisions through type structure, identity wrapped up into being the certainty


01:11:35 - Making things more good instead of less bad, 'soul purpose'; depth over breadth

01:22:20 - 6w5 cagey nature, "I'm not trying to not touch you, I'm trying to keep you from touching me", private internal withdrawal, not signing the contract, expectations vs responses


01:30:48 - Making a mess, cleaning up after ourselves, 6-1 stem reflections, resignation with attachments


01:37:10 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>974cf3b1-39a9-4eaf-9f29-4dc75654e602Tue, 19 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -050001:39:06falsefull#61: Elisa (SP/SX 3w2 378) - Erotic Atmospheres, Mastering the Social Game, and Building a Business from the Bones of Hyper-Independence#61: Elisa (SP/SX 3w2 378) - Erotic Atmospheres, Mastering the Social Game, and Building a Business from the Bones of Hyper-IndependenceElisa (SP/SX 3w2 378) joins us for a rich and layered conversation that weaves together identity, performance, and the relentless pursuit of autonomy. A pole and circus studio founder with a deep instinct for self-reinvention, Elisa moves through life like a well-rehearsed act — equal parts precision and provocation. We talk about what it means to build a life around something still stigmatized by the mainstream, the tension between personal truth and social acceptability, and how visibility can be both a risk and a reclamation. Throughout, Elisa reflects on the roots of her drive — a childhood that demanded self-reliance, an early mistrust of authority, and a bone-deep resistance to being boxed in. We explore the challenges of delegation when control has always been survival, and the vulnerability required to teach, lead, and create in front of others. There’s a powerful thread here about embodiment as empowerment: how performance can become a site of healing, defiance, and radical honesty.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


03:30 - Social blind 3 running a circus & pole studio, 'expansion' definition as triple assertive, 3's pride of business


09:19 - Perception as a social blind 3, trust and autonomy in business, being an 'idea machine'


16:34 - Sp/sx importance of atmosphere, eroticism within career


26:19 - Approval of parents as a type 3, being consumed with a fire to fulfill 'who I am', struggling during COVID and taking things personally


35:59 - Core 3 'keeps a lid' on energetic 7 and 8 fixes, 3 believing "I can do anything", learning the 'social game' in business


42:31 - Being curious in the social instinct, tracking others' gaze/values, 3w2 anticipating others' needs but not clocking social nuances


50:29 - Instructor experience, impersonal impact on others, relating to control in relationships


61:15 - Separation/boundaries in professional relationships, seeking or deflecting validation, vulnerability in the sexual instinct and performance


01:13:18 - Being a competence type, honing your craft, having an interest vs running a business, obsession with self-improvement


01:24:26 - Childhood reflections; energetic and unfiltered, not participating in early school institutions


01:34:59 - Self-worth vs social accolades, the role of teachers, seeking essential value through productivity


01:43:07 - Not identifying with victimhood, difficulties accepting help/delegation, being an emotional support child, hyper-independence


01:52:54 - Putting whole self into work, delivering excellence, 3w2 empathy can override necessary negative interactions


02:00:05 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram3

]]>Elisa (SP/SX 3w2 378) joins us for a rich and layered conversation that weaves together identity, performance, and the relentless pursuit of autonomy. A pole and circus studio founder with a deep instinct for self-reinvention, Elisa moves through life like a well-rehearsed act — equal parts precision and provocation. We talk about what it means to build a life around something still stigmatized by the mainstream, the tension between personal truth and social acceptability, and how visibility can be both a risk and a reclamation. Throughout, Elisa reflects on the roots of her drive — a childhood that demanded self-reliance, an early mistrust of authority, and a bone-deep resistance to being boxed in. We explore the challenges of delegation when control has always been survival, and the vulnerability required to teach, lead, and create in front of others. There’s a powerful thread here about embodiment as empowerment: how performance can become a site of healing, defiance, and radical honesty.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


03:30 - Social blind 3 running a circus & pole studio, 'expansion' definition as triple assertive, 3's pride of business


09:19 - Perception as a social blind 3, trust and autonomy in business, being an 'idea machine'


16:34 - Sp/sx importance of atmosphere, eroticism within career


26:19 - Approval of parents as a type 3, being consumed with a fire to fulfill 'who I am', struggling during COVID and taking things personally


35:59 - Core 3 'keeps a lid' on energetic 7 and 8 fixes, 3 believing "I can do anything", learning the 'social game' in business


42:31 - Being curious in the social instinct, tracking others' gaze/values, 3w2 anticipating others' needs but not clocking social nuances


50:29 - Instructor experience, impersonal impact on others, relating to control in relationships


61:15 - Separation/boundaries in professional relationships, seeking or deflecting validation, vulnerability in the sexual instinct and performance


01:13:18 - Being a competence type, honing your craft, having an interest vs running a business, obsession with self-improvement


01:24:26 - Childhood reflections; energetic and unfiltered, not participating in early school institutions


01:34:59 - Self-worth vs social accolades, the role of teachers, seeking essential value through productivity


01:43:07 - Not identifying with victimhood, difficulties accepting help/delegation, being an emotional support child, hyper-independence


01:52:54 - Putting whole self into work, delivering excellence, 3w2 empathy can override necessary negative interactions


02:00:05 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram3

]]>3376fa7c-8760-4c20-9f43-d74595d7dd80Tue, 12 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -050002:02:06falsefull#60: Alex (SO/SP 6w7 693): Changing Inherited Reality Perspectives, Having “Mental Real Estate”, and the Exhaustion of Being One’s Own Vetting System#60: Alex (SO/SP 6w7 693): Changing Inherited Reality Perspectives, Having “Mental Real Estate”, and the Exhaustion of Being One’s Own Vetting SystemAlex (SO/SP 6w7 693) joins us for a deep dive into the often-misunderstood inner terrain of the Social Six — where loyalty is a vigilant scan for danger, and the mind’s ceaseless activity is less about worry than about building a livable world. From the outset, Alex speaks to the dissonance of being typed as a Six, resisting the caricatures and one-dimensional projections that cling to the type. 

We explore the deep patterns of fear and mental over-responsibility that began in childhood: a sense of being a small, visible target in a world ruled by unseen authority. Alex opens up about health anxiety, asexuality, and the complexity of labels — both how they can offer coherence and how they can confine. 

Alex also brings in the character of Zuko from our shared favorite show Avatar: The Last Airbender as a mirror of his own journey — from rigid loyalty to false authority, through crisis, to a reclamation of inner truth. Together, we explore how Six navigates the labyrinth of mental gates that must be opened before love can be received, and how trust — in the self, in others, in life — is painstakingly built, tested, and sometimes, finally, allowed.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram 



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:31 - Participating in Enneagram communities, creating memes while waiting for typing results, reacting to being type 6, unpacking the projections onto 6, "finding a mental home"


12:27 - Being a 'cog in the machine', erasing individualization, a "thought-terminating cliche", having mental tweezers 


17:10 - Childhood memories, fearing authority larger than parents, fear/anxiety of being a "sitting duck" to external powers


23:36 - "Going haywire", the vetting mechanism of 6, fearing and joking about death


29:01 - Ketamine treatment, expanding perspectives assisting with anxiety, limited "mental real estate", social narratives and afterthoughts, an unreliable narrator


38:09 - 6s not taking responsibility for personal perspectives, pinging off of others, judgment off of 'needing others', self-honoring and life-giving, self-sufficiency narratives


46:03 - 6s archetypal connection to labels, being asexual, attention to collective ideals/gaze


52:30 - self-deprecation being limiting, therapy, social rejection, deconstructing 'what I deserve to have/want", identifying the super-ego


59:11 - not making progress, fear of social vulnerability, 6's inner splitting, exploring the underdog position


01:06:59 - Avatar the Last Airbender; relating to the Zuko character arch, shedding the false authorities, enacting personal will, changing inherited reality perspectives


01:16:22 - 'vetting' self-love, matrix of mental gates, a core need to have 'right'...]]>Alex (SO/SP 6w7 693) joins us for a deep dive into the often-misunderstood inner terrain of the Social Six — where loyalty is a vigilant scan for danger, and the mind’s ceaseless activity is less about worry than about building a livable world. From the outset, Alex speaks to the dissonance of being typed as a Six, resisting the caricatures and one-dimensional projections that cling to the type. 

We explore the deep patterns of fear and mental over-responsibility that began in childhood: a sense of being a small, visible target in a world ruled by unseen authority. Alex opens up about health anxiety, asexuality, and the complexity of labels — both how they can offer coherence and how they can confine. 

Alex also brings in the character of Zuko from our shared favorite show Avatar: The Last Airbender as a mirror of his own journey — from rigid loyalty to false authority, through crisis, to a reclamation of inner truth. Together, we explore how Six navigates the labyrinth of mental gates that must be opened before love can be received, and how trust — in the self, in others, in life — is painstakingly built, tested, and sometimes, finally, allowed.

LINKS


Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/


Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram 



TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


02:31 - Participating in Enneagram communities, creating memes while waiting for typing results, reacting to being type 6, unpacking the projections onto 6, "finding a mental home"


12:27 - Being a 'cog in the machine', erasing individualization, a "thought-terminating cliche", having mental tweezers 


17:10 - Childhood memories, fearing authority larger than parents, fear/anxiety of being a "sitting duck" to external powers


23:36 - "Going haywire", the vetting mechanism of 6, fearing and joking about death


29:01 - Ketamine treatment, expanding perspectives assisting with anxiety, limited "mental real estate", social narratives and afterthoughts, an unreliable narrator


38:09 - 6s not taking responsibility for personal perspectives, pinging off of others, judgment off of 'needing others', self-honoring and life-giving, self-sufficiency narratives


46:03 - 6s archetypal connection to labels, being asexual, attention to collective ideals/gaze


52:30 - self-deprecation being limiting, therapy, social rejection, deconstructing 'what I deserve to have/want", identifying the super-ego


59:11 - not making progress, fear of social vulnerability, 6's inner splitting, exploring the underdog position


01:06:59 - Avatar the Last Airbender; relating to the Zuko character arch, shedding the false authorities, enacting personal will, changing inherited reality perspectives


01:16:22 - 'vetting' self-love, matrix of mental gates, a core need to have 'right' orientation, observing the other center's participation


01:23:54 - Outro


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine 

Edited by Kristen Oberly 

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay 

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ 

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ 


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]]>c386c505-60f1-42e3-983a-de16153a5dc7Tue, 05 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -050001:26:07falsefull#59: Aurel (SO/SP 6w7 693) – Understanding/Expressing Identity, Reliable Orientation with Memory Loss, and Sounding the Alarm#59: Aurel (SO/SP 6w7 693) – Understanding/Expressing Identity, Reliable Orientation with Memory Loss, and Sounding the AlarmAurel (SO/SP 6w7 693) experienced a major stroke in early adulthood—an event that unraveled his sense of self and fractured his memory. What happens when your personal history goes missing? In this conversation, Aurel reflects on the slow, painful reconstruction of identity and how trauma rewrites not just the past, but the present narrative. We talk about radical empathy, activism, and the emotional labor of confronting systemic injustice while piecing together who you are. This is a deep dive into Type 6 themes—humility, doubt, the search for expertise, and the existential anxiety that rides alongside all of it. Aurel also shares how role-playing games became a surprising avenue for self-exploration, offering both escape and insight. Gender, memory, social responsibility, and the long arc of healing—it’s all here, held together by a steady curiosity about what it means to tell the truth, especially when the truth feels scattered.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


05:45 - Grounding to a sense of reliable orientation as a core mental type carrying significant memory loss


09:37 - Mosaic of identity: pieces of Aurel's life, "firming up" to actually get better attachments


14:56 - Being 'proactively solid', having a passionate moral compass, feeling guilt backlash


19:36 Anti-fascism, practicing good discernment, community care-taking


21:01 "Can we put a time stamp on this so people who aren't white don't have to hear about how I learned to care about racism if they don't want to?"


23:44 - Social core 6 'sounding the alarm' to this reality, searching for and spreading truth through the 'best information'


31:55 - A fascination with information, 6 wing 7 'play mode', anti-arrogance of 6, "I don't want to be responsible for your orientation"


35:17 - Navigating influence and value, proselytizing mode, anti-elitism and self-erasure of the 6-9 stem


46:17 - Role-playing games as an artistic form to navigate different aspects of self and identity


53:07 - Intersection of memory loss and identity, "none of us hold all of ourselves", not being certain of self-perceptions


01:02:14 - Gender Identity, re-inventing yourself, the complexities of social labels, 6s ability to see the categories held by the collective mind


01:11:44 - Gender expression through the sexual instinct, sexual blind 6 afraid of 'being caught', sexual versus social attunement, finding 'flavor' through the arts but having 3 last


01:26:43 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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]]>Aurel (SO/SP 6w7 693) experienced a major stroke in early adulthood—an event that unraveled his sense of self and fractured his memory. What happens when your personal history goes missing? In this conversation, Aurel reflects on the slow, painful reconstruction of identity and how trauma rewrites not just the past, but the present narrative. We talk about radical empathy, activism, and the emotional labor of confronting systemic injustice while piecing together who you are. This is a deep dive into Type 6 themes—humility, doubt, the search for expertise, and the existential anxiety that rides alongside all of it. Aurel also shares how role-playing games became a surprising avenue for self-exploration, offering both escape and insight. Gender, memory, social responsibility, and the long arc of healing—it’s all here, held together by a steady curiosity about what it means to tell the truth, especially when the truth feels scattered.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course


Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/


Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994


House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS


00:00 - Intro


05:45 - Grounding to a sense of reliable orientation as a core mental type carrying significant memory loss


09:37 - Mosaic of identity: pieces of Aurel's life, "firming up" to actually get better attachments


14:56 - Being 'proactively solid', having a passionate moral compass, feeling guilt backlash


19:36 Anti-fascism, practicing good discernment, community care-taking


21:01 "Can we put a time stamp on this so people who aren't white don't have to hear about how I learned to care about racism if they don't want to?"


23:44 - Social core 6 'sounding the alarm' to this reality, searching for and spreading truth through the 'best information'


31:55 - A fascination with information, 6 wing 7 'play mode', anti-arrogance of 6, "I don't want to be responsible for your orientation"


35:17 - Navigating influence and value, proselytizing mode, anti-elitism and self-erasure of the 6-9 stem


46:17 - Role-playing games as an artistic form to navigate different aspects of self and identity


53:07 - Intersection of memory loss and identity, "none of us hold all of ourselves", not being certain of self-perceptions


01:02:14 - Gender Identity, re-inventing yourself, the complexities of social labels, 6s ability to see the categories held by the collective mind


01:11:44 - Gender expression through the sexual instinct, sexual blind 6 afraid of 'being caught', sexual versus social attunement, finding 'flavor' through the arts but having 3 last


01:26:43 - Outro



CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/


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]]>b3bfc7b7-6ef5-4418-a9c5-4feacf7b0866Tue, 29 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -050001:29:26falsefull#58: Mar (SP/SX 7w6 794) – Impulsive Vision, Finality in Fiction, and the Existential Weight of Losing Sea Monkeys#58: Mar (SP/SX 7w6 794) – Impulsive Vision, Finality in Fiction, and the Existential Weight of Losing Sea MonkeysMar (SP/SX 7w6 794) joins us for a luminous, chaotic dive into the inner world of an SP Seven — where optimism burns like a flare, vision outpaces feasibility, and connection is often a puzzle missing key pieces. Mar touches on her social blindness — the kind that makes small talk feel like calculus and leads to well-meaning intensity that others don't always know how to receive. We explore her writing, which orbits themes of fate, finality, and surrealism — what she calls “pocket knife stories” for their compact emotional heft. This conversation also opens space for harder truths: her relationship with alcohol as both amplifier and isolator, the tension between reckless vitality and the longing for groundedness, and the ongoing work of integrating a self built on speed with one that can sit still. At the heart of it all is a question familiar to many Sevens: What does it mean to choose presence, when flight feels like freedom?

Link to Mar's writing; https://www.marovsheid.com/

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:28 - Understanding enneagram typing before knowing the enneagram, something the personality is doing that isn't 'baseline', being different from the average mold

07:56 - Navigating social interactions as a social blind, blindspot not holding nuance

14:47 - Social dismissal, writing as self-value, 4 fix misattunement

22:36 - Type 7 instant gratification seeking, getting what you want from a young age, objects of desire, the dachshund story

32:42 - Making luck: balancing action/faith, assertiveness without pragmatism

40:19 - Vision of a solar-powered future, self-preservation 7 lacking stick-to-itiveness

48:12 - Fragility of dreams/weight of the past, looking to be optimally nourished, difficulty reflecting

59:37 - Mar's relationship to writing, type 7 always looking to the next thing, 4w5 constantly reworking self

01:04:28 - Finality and tragedy in art, fragility of existence

01:17:51 - Nature of writing and self-expression, 'giving the symbols legs', the inner tension between 2 poles

01:26:58 - Staying power of writing while being a 7

01:37:32 - Navigating alcohol as a tool, sp/sx not feeling answerable to social, curling into self

01:54:12 - Outro


CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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]]>Mar (SP/SX 7w6 794) joins us for a luminous, chaotic dive into the inner world of an SP Seven — where optimism burns like a flare, vision outpaces feasibility, and connection is often a puzzle missing key pieces. Mar touches on her social blindness — the kind that makes small talk feel like calculus and leads to well-meaning intensity that others don't always know how to receive. We explore her writing, which orbits themes of fate, finality, and surrealism — what she calls “pocket knife stories” for their compact emotional heft. This conversation also opens space for harder truths: her relationship with alcohol as both amplifier and isolator, the tension between reckless vitality and the longing for groundedness, and the ongoing work of integrating a self built on speed with one that can sit still. At the heart of it all is a question familiar to many Sevens: What does it mean to choose presence, when flight feels like freedom?

Link to Mar's writing; https://www.marovsheid.com/

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:28 - Understanding enneagram typing before knowing the enneagram, something the personality is doing that isn't 'baseline', being different from the average mold

07:56 - Navigating social interactions as a social blind, blindspot not holding nuance

14:47 - Social dismissal, writing as self-value, 4 fix misattunement

22:36 - Type 7 instant gratification seeking, getting what you want from a young age, objects of desire, the dachshund story

32:42 - Making luck: balancing action/faith, assertiveness without pragmatism

40:19 - Vision of a solar-powered future, self-preservation 7 lacking stick-to-itiveness

48:12 - Fragility of dreams/weight of the past, looking to be optimally nourished, difficulty reflecting

59:37 - Mar's relationship to writing, type 7 always looking to the next thing, 4w5 constantly reworking self

01:04:28 - Finality and tragedy in art, fragility of existence

01:17:51 - Nature of writing and self-expression, 'giving the symbols legs', the inner tension between 2 poles

01:26:58 - Staying power of writing while being a 7

01:37:32 - Navigating alcohol as a tool, sp/sx not feeling answerable to social, curling into self

01:54:12 - Outro


CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

---
#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram7

]]>Kajabi-2149060389Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:00:00 -050001:56:26falsefull#57: Cassandra Carol (SP/SO 9w8 972): Navigating Trauma as a Triple-Positive Type, the High Energy of 9w8, and Putting the Pieces of Self Back Together#57: Cassandra Carol (SP/SO 9w8 972): Navigating Trauma as a Triple-Positive Type, the High Energy of 9w8, and Putting the Pieces of Self Back TogetherCassandra Carol (SP/SO 9w8 972) joins us for a raw and resonant conversation about what it means to carry deep emotional weight while moving gently through the world. Cass, a high-energy and incredibly polite Nine, opens up about surviving childhood abuse, navigating a turbulent past marriage, and understanding the complex aspects of her unique Enneagram type with precision. We explore the paradox of a Nine who feels “too much” in a world that asks her to be less — the push-pull of wanting to merge without disappearing, of protecting others without burning out. Cass’s Enneagram journey (including strong 7 and 2 fixes) becomes a map for understanding her deep instincts to nurture, accommodate, and endure — even at great personal cost. Cass’s episode is an expression of what it means to hold both ferocity and fragility — and to choose growth anyway.


LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Intro

03:17 - Looking at the typing as a whole - 9w8 7w8 2w3 - how the fixes ‘give energy’ to the 9 core. Interpersonal positioning, reacting to and processing early trauma, not presenting the ‘real me’.

11:35 - Being triple positive, each type doesn’t want sadness. Rejection in type cuts off irritants.

16:56 - Divorce, talking about trauma with a fun ‘poppy’ energy, nature versus nurture and resiliency levels in type. (intro clip around 15:00)

22:19 - Body center ‘testing’ its own strength after past trauma, reflecting on 8’s influence on self-judgement, fluctuating between personal emotional control and porousness.

37:16 - Boondock Saints, religion, and past relationships

46:12 - 6 versus 9w8 relationship history and dynamic, 7s aversion to controlling others, speaking truth

55:11 - ‘putting on’ the bad bitch energy, taking on motherhood having mama bear energy, 9’s endurance

59:10 - understanding 2 energy, 2 fix glorified in christian culture, 9w8 sensitivity to being ‘too much’

1:17:12 - positive fantasy, parenting with rejection influences, contradicting parts of type creating inner narratives

1:26:50 - dazzling therapists without getting to the heart, self-soothing obsessions, coming to a close


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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]]>Cassandra Carol (SP/SO 9w8 972) joins us for a raw and resonant conversation about what it means to carry deep emotional weight while moving gently through the world. Cass, a high-energy and incredibly polite Nine, opens up about surviving childhood abuse, navigating a turbulent past marriage, and understanding the complex aspects of her unique Enneagram type with precision. We explore the paradox of a Nine who feels “too much” in a world that asks her to be less — the push-pull of wanting to merge without disappearing, of protecting others without burning out. Cass’s Enneagram journey (including strong 7 and 2 fixes) becomes a map for understanding her deep instincts to nurture, accommodate, and endure — even at great personal cost. Cass’s episode is an expression of what it means to hold both ferocity and fragility — and to choose growth anyway.


LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Intro

03:17 - Looking at the typing as a whole - 9w8 7w8 2w3 - how the fixes ‘give energy’ to the 9 core. Interpersonal positioning, reacting to and processing early trauma, not presenting the ‘real me’.

11:35 - Being triple positive, each type doesn’t want sadness. Rejection in type cuts off irritants.

16:56 - Divorce, talking about trauma with a fun ‘poppy’ energy, nature versus nurture and resiliency levels in type. (intro clip around 15:00)

22:19 - Body center ‘testing’ its own strength after past trauma, reflecting on 8’s influence on self-judgement, fluctuating between personal emotional control and porousness.

37:16 - Boondock Saints, religion, and past relationships

46:12 - 6 versus 9w8 relationship history and dynamic, 7s aversion to controlling others, speaking truth

55:11 - ‘putting on’ the bad bitch energy, taking on motherhood having mama bear energy, 9’s endurance

59:10 - understanding 2 energy, 2 fix glorified in christian culture, 9w8 sensitivity to being ‘too much’

1:17:12 - positive fantasy, parenting with rejection influences, contradicting parts of type creating inner narratives

1:26:50 - dazzling therapists without getting to the heart, self-soothing obsessions, coming to a close


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

---
#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Kajabi-2149057895Tue, 15 Jul 2025 10:00:00 -050001:45:18falsefull#56: Ruth (SX/SO 9w1 973): Seductive Merging with the Divine, the Rude Awakening of Self-Care, and Reclaiming Sensation Through the Body#56: Ruth (SX/SO 9w1 973): Seductive Merging with the Divine, the Rude Awakening of Self-Care, and Reclaiming Sensation Through the BodyRuth (SX/SO 9w1 973) joins us for a luminous and radical exploration of the Sexual 9's longing for union — with God, with others, and, ultimately, with herself. From an early age, Ruth’s life was shaped by profound mystical experiences: claiming Jesus at three, and at nine, encountering a vision of him entering her body — not metaphorically, but viscerally, as a wave of physical love. These moments left an imprint, becoming the compass by which she navigated the world — always reaching for a love that could hold her entire being. We explore how this early spiritual intensity tethered her to external sources of nourishment — church, relationships, ideals — while a deeper hunger for selfhood remained dormant, waiting to be reclaimed. Her story takes a sharp turn in her late 30s, when a “rude awakening” forced her to prioritize self-care and embodiment. What unfolds is a quiet revolution: the shift from merging to individuation, from numbing to sensation, from floating in spirit to landing in body.

Google Doc containing all of Ruth’s poems, art, and links; https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_HCMlPkNOTMyt87PAmhI36jPTIIR71PaTxFw6oYDa5A/edit?usp=sharing


LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:20 - Unburdening the self from a narrative arch

13:07 - Self-preservation blind externalizing the body through the church

30:57 - Abandoning will and choice in areas of life

34:59 - Sexual dominant; ecstatic states causing self-abandonment

45:55 - ‘Go find your mountain’; stepping into the world with confidence

50:44 - Questioning faith, ‘the fall’ to Earth and becoming a person

1:00:50 - Building a tolerance to regulating stress

1:11:44 - Connecting with the mundane self-preservation independently

1:21:28 - Understanding the natural rhythms and life force of the body

1:39:16 - Outro


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Ruth (SX/SO 9w1 973) joins us for a luminous and radical exploration of the Sexual 9's longing for union — with God, with others, and, ultimately, with herself. From an early age, Ruth’s life was shaped by profound mystical experiences: claiming Jesus at three, and at nine, encountering a vision of him entering her body — not metaphorically, but viscerally, as a wave of physical love. These moments left an imprint, becoming the compass by which she navigated the world — always reaching for a love that could hold her entire being. We explore how this early spiritual intensity tethered her to external sources of nourishment — church, relationships, ideals — while a deeper hunger for selfhood remained dormant, waiting to be reclaimed. Her story takes a sharp turn in her late 30s, when a “rude awakening” forced her to prioritize self-care and embodiment. What unfolds is a quiet revolution: the shift from merging to individuation, from numbing to sensation, from floating in spirit to landing in body.

Google Doc containing all of Ruth’s poems, art, and links; https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_HCMlPkNOTMyt87PAmhI36jPTIIR71PaTxFw6oYDa5A/edit?usp=sharing


LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:20 - Unburdening the self from a narrative arch

13:07 - Self-preservation blind externalizing the body through the church

30:57 - Abandoning will and choice in areas of life

34:59 - Sexual dominant; ecstatic states causing self-abandonment

45:55 - ‘Go find your mountain’; stepping into the world with confidence

50:44 - Questioning faith, ‘the fall’ to Earth and becoming a person

1:00:50 - Building a tolerance to regulating stress

1:11:44 - Connecting with the mundane self-preservation independently

1:21:28 - Understanding the natural rhythms and life force of the body

1:39:16 - Outro


CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Kajabi-2149055211Tue, 08 Jul 2025 10:00:00 -050001:41:40falsefull#55 Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) - Music as Mirror, Emotional Fragmentation, and the Integrative Pulse of the Body Center#55 Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) - Music as Mirror, Emotional Fragmentation, and the Integrative Pulse of the Body CenterAnna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) returns for a second conversation—this time reflecting on the shifts she's experienced since our last recording. We begin with a live performance of her original song Wings for the Heart, a piece that emerged in the wake of personal rupture and now stands as both witness and balm. What follows is a layered exploration of emotional fragmentation, the disorienting effects of internal and external turbulence, and the slow, deliberate work of reweaving oneself from the inside out. Anna speaks candidly about a transformative road trip with her family that cracked something open—making space for parts of herself she’d long kept at bay. We discuss the cost of emotional suppression, the subtle tensions in relational dynamics, and the grounded power that comes from living with greater authenticity. What emerges is the portrait of a Nine learning to inhabit her full aliveness, not by transcending conflict but by letting all the pieces have a seat at the table.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Intro

7:31 - Following the bird song, the healing power of music, Performance of 'Wings for the Heart'

16:20 - Embracing vulnerability in art, heart receiving, a 9 in her element

20:36 - 9s line to 3, saturating a space with energy, showing up as 'I Am'

23:10 - Reflections since the previous interview, coping between internal and external world, "competency cringe"

28:03 - Noticing 'numbness' in presence, self-location versus fragmented states, 'needing time to arrive'

36:03 - Incongruences with life force, realignment with self by taking on a solid form, family road trip

47:43 - Not having a backlog of emotions or rage, 'bigness' of 9, transforming the need to manage oneself

52:34 - Embracing conflict and personal sovereignty, living in the space between myself and others

55:28 - Journaling/posting during travel leads to finding inner voice and framing of experience, feeling at home in my world

61:15 - Parenting with presence and clarity, "I'm more than just 'mom'", allowing struggles to exist in a child's life

01:08:30 - Integration of different threads of self, congruence within relationships

01:11:43 - Surrendering to self-authenticity, attachment dynamics shifting, a new energetic body

01:23:04 - Outro

CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) returns for a second conversation—this time reflecting on the shifts she's experienced since our last recording. We begin with a live performance of her original song Wings for the Heart, a piece that emerged in the wake of personal rupture and now stands as both witness and balm. What follows is a layered exploration of emotional fragmentation, the disorienting effects of internal and external turbulence, and the slow, deliberate work of reweaving oneself from the inside out. Anna speaks candidly about a transformative road trip with her family that cracked something open—making space for parts of herself she’d long kept at bay. We discuss the cost of emotional suppression, the subtle tensions in relational dynamics, and the grounded power that comes from living with greater authenticity. What emerges is the portrait of a Nine learning to inhabit her full aliveness, not by transcending conflict but by letting all the pieces have a seat at the table.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram


TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Intro

7:31 - Following the bird song, the healing power of music, Performance of 'Wings for the Heart'

16:20 - Embracing vulnerability in art, heart receiving, a 9 in her element

20:36 - 9s line to 3, saturating a space with energy, showing up as 'I Am'

23:10 - Reflections since the previous interview, coping between internal and external world, "competency cringe"

28:03 - Noticing 'numbness' in presence, self-location versus fragmented states, 'needing time to arrive'

36:03 - Incongruences with life force, realignment with self by taking on a solid form, family road trip

47:43 - Not having a backlog of emotions or rage, 'bigness' of 9, transforming the need to manage oneself

52:34 - Embracing conflict and personal sovereignty, living in the space between myself and others

55:28 - Journaling/posting during travel leads to finding inner voice and framing of experience, feeling at home in my world

61:15 - Parenting with presence and clarity, "I'm more than just 'mom'", allowing struggles to exist in a child's life

01:08:30 - Integration of different threads of self, congruence within relationships

01:11:43 - Surrendering to self-authenticity, attachment dynamics shifting, a new energetic body

01:23:04 - Outro

CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Kajabi-2149052789Tue, 01 Jul 2025 10:00:00 -050001:25:50falsefull#54 Bjarne (SO/SP 8w9 3w2 6w7): Will Over Emotion, the Fight Against Corruption, and the Longing to Galvanize Others#54 Bjarne (SO/SP 8w9 3w2 6w7): Will Over Emotion, the Fight Against Corruption, and the Longing to Galvanize OthersBjarne is an SO/SP 8w9 with 3w2 and 6w7 fixes, though in this episode, he questions whether he might be a core Six. What emerges regardless is a portrait of a powerful, self-directed psyche shaped by an early awareness of exploitation, corruption, the failure of collective systems to protect the dignity of life. From political dreams as a child to his drive to awaken others to their own strength, Bjarne speaks about what it means to live with a sense of self-respect and moral propulsion. We talk about betrayal and its lasting scar: how one relational rupture cost him his emotional faith in others, replacing it with vigilance and paranoia. We also explore the engine behind his ambition, his disdain for comfort zones, and the sadness he feels watching others give up on their dreams. Despite his tough exterior, what drives him is a longing to ignite others into action and distribute his own fire so that others might reclaim their agency. This is a conversation about will, self-respect, the cost of vigilance, and the restless drive to feel truly alive.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram 

 

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:33 - What it means to ‘be excited’, decided which emotions are experienced

10:19 - Cut off from vulnerability causes inauthentic connection with others; the significance of self-betrayal

12:57 - Bjarne’s core 6 theory; ruling with anxiety. Clarifying ‘being taken advantage of’

15:23 - Corruption, weakness, and politics

16:52 - An instinctual repulsion over disrespect of life

25:31 - Social 8 helping others see their power, recognizing individual impact can be a way of carrying on legacy

29:12 - Personal peeve on people asking for reassurance

32:44 - Taking risks, not being a slave to the system

40:27 - Self-actualization and potential; 836 trifix outlook of ‘this is what you have, this is what you work with’

42:03 - Emotional impacts and processing of being betrayed

53:15 - The personal importance and societal use of ‘diplomacy’

59:08 - 8’s boundlessness of motivation and reserves of energy

1:07:12 - ‘Vivifying’ the collective, channeling energy into others’ potential

1:17:25 - Outro

 

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine 

Edited by Kristen Oberly 

...]]>Bjarne is an SO/SP 8w9 with 3w2 and 6w7 fixes, though in this episode, he questions whether he might be a core Six. What emerges regardless is a portrait of a powerful, self-directed psyche shaped by an early awareness of exploitation, corruption, the failure of collective systems to protect the dignity of life. From political dreams as a child to his drive to awaken others to their own strength, Bjarne speaks about what it means to live with a sense of self-respect and moral propulsion. We talk about betrayal and its lasting scar: how one relational rupture cost him his emotional faith in others, replacing it with vigilance and paranoia. We also explore the engine behind his ambition, his disdain for comfort zones, and the sadness he feels watching others give up on their dreams. Despite his tough exterior, what drives him is a longing to ignite others into action and distribute his own fire so that others might reclaim their agency. This is a conversation about will, self-respect, the cost of vigilance, and the restless drive to feel truly alive.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School

https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed

https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram

https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram 

 

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:33 - What it means to ‘be excited’, decided which emotions are experienced

10:19 - Cut off from vulnerability causes inauthentic connection with others; the significance of self-betrayal

12:57 - Bjarne’s core 6 theory; ruling with anxiety. Clarifying ‘being taken advantage of’

15:23 - Corruption, weakness, and politics

16:52 - An instinctual repulsion over disrespect of life

25:31 - Social 8 helping others see their power, recognizing individual impact can be a way of carrying on legacy

29:12 - Personal peeve on people asking for reassurance

32:44 - Taking risks, not being a slave to the system

40:27 - Self-actualization and potential; 836 trifix outlook of ‘this is what you have, this is what you work with’

42:03 - Emotional impacts and processing of being betrayed

53:15 - The personal importance and societal use of ‘diplomacy’

59:08 - 8’s boundlessness of motivation and reserves of energy

1:07:12 - ‘Vivifying’ the collective, channeling energy into others’ potential

1:17:25 - Outro

 

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine 

Edited by Kristen Oberly 

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay 

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ 

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ 

--- 

#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram5

]]>Kajabi-2149041590Tue, 10 Jun 2025 10:00:00 -050001:20:01falsefullMoses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – Social 5-ness on the Spectrum, Sexual Blindness, and the Dangerous Hope for Mutual DesireMoses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – Social 5-ness on the Spectrum, Sexual Blindness, and the Dangerous Hope for Mutual DesireMoses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) is back for round two, and we dive straight into what he calls “the mortifying stuff.” We explore the dissonance of being autistic and socially wired — craving connection but feeling like a fish trying to fly. Moses speaks candidly about navigating sexual arousal alongside the fear of being seen as creepy or delusional, and what it’s like to experience intense desire as someone who’s sexual blind. He names his instinct to hide, control, and strategize, and what happens when that scaffolding starts to crack. We talk about being a triple competency type (513), the impulse to do everything alone, and the sharp suspicion that other people just get in the way. But then something unexpected happens: Moses softens. What starts as a conversation about childhood patterns and self-analysis ends in a rare emotional opening, as Moses entertains the dangerous hope that someone might actually want to stay.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

11:33 - Differentiating type 5 and autism

22:09 - Social needs and a fascination with psychology

24:44 - Moses shares personal stories relating to early forms of type structure

32:33 - Giving sexual preferences space as opposed to suppressing

42:00 - Taking responsibility for the self

47:03 - Type 5 expanding on the obsession with animals

54:54 - Social hexad displaying ‘shocking’ parts up front

59:20 - Triple competency’s reliance on self and mistrust in others

1:07:49 - The spirit of collaboration as a competency type

1:15:03 - Releasing hope hiding underneath strategy

1:31:24 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

---

#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram5

]]>Moses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) is back for round two, and we dive straight into what he calls “the mortifying stuff.” We explore the dissonance of being autistic and socially wired — craving connection but feeling like a fish trying to fly. Moses speaks candidly about navigating sexual arousal alongside the fear of being seen as creepy or delusional, and what it’s like to experience intense desire as someone who’s sexual blind. He names his instinct to hide, control, and strategize, and what happens when that scaffolding starts to crack. We talk about being a triple competency type (513), the impulse to do everything alone, and the sharp suspicion that other people just get in the way. But then something unexpected happens: Moses softens. What starts as a conversation about childhood patterns and self-analysis ends in a rare emotional opening, as Moses entertains the dangerous hope that someone might actually want to stay.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

11:33 - Differentiating type 5 and autism

22:09 - Social needs and a fascination with psychology

24:44 - Moses shares personal stories relating to early forms of type structure

32:33 - Giving sexual preferences space as opposed to suppressing

42:00 - Taking responsibility for the self

47:03 - Type 5 expanding on the obsession with animals

54:54 - Social hexad displaying ‘shocking’ parts up front

59:20 - Triple competency’s reliance on self and mistrust in others

1:07:49 - The spirit of collaboration as a competency type

1:15:03 - Releasing hope hiding underneath strategy

1:31:24 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

---

#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram5

]]>Kajabi-2149036063Tue, 27 May 2025 10:00:00 -050001:34:14falsefullMoses WIlliams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – The Horror of Naivety, Fascination with Taboo, and the Obsessive Drive to Self-EducateMoses WIlliams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – The Horror of Naivety, Fascination with Taboo, and the Obsessive Drive to Self-EducateMoses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didn’t. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topics—pornography, sexual deviance, violence—not to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: “Am I stupid for not knowing this already?” He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.  

LINKS  

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/ 

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course  

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/  

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994  

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@houseofenneagram⁩     


TIMESTAMPS 

00:00 - Intro  

02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people  

06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear  

09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs  

13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy  

15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions  

22:56 - ‘Worst moment of life’, social incompetence  

28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it ‘my way’ and making it work, “the way I do teamwork is by not working with people”  

31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, ‘becoming sanitized’, stripping out people’s assumptions  

35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility  

42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real  

45:47 - Social relationships allow ‘getting to the heart’, loneliness and regret  

50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image  

58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isn’t actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an...]]>Moses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didn’t. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topics—pornography, sexual deviance, violence—not to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: “Am I stupid for not knowing this already?” He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.  

LINKS  

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/ 

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course  

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/  

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994  

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@houseofenneagram⁩     


TIMESTAMPS 

00:00 - Intro  

02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people  

06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear  

09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs  

13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy  

15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions  

22:56 - ‘Worst moment of life’, social incompetence  

28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it ‘my way’ and making it work, “the way I do teamwork is by not working with people”  

31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, ‘becoming sanitized’, stripping out people’s assumptions  

35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility  

42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real  

45:47 - Social relationships allow ‘getting to the heart’, loneliness and regret  

50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image  

58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isn’t actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an abstraction  

1:05:40 - Differing energies with self and others, divine resonating frequencies, obsessions  

1:09:04 - Coming out story, viewing family as a collection of people forced to live together, “this is who I am, deal with it”  

1:17:22 - Transformation of current social dynamics, ‘shutting up’, finding the people who ‘tolerate me’  

1:23:22 - Differences between being on the autism spectrum and being a type 5  

1:30:57 - Outro   


CREDITS 

Interview by Josh Lavine  
Edited by Kristen Oberly  
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay  
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/  
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/  

 ---  

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]]>Kajabi-2149033189Tue, 20 May 2025 10:00:00 -050001:32:40falsefull#50: Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126): The Double-Edge Sword of Competence, Overextending for a Cause, and Trusting the Felt-Sense Yes#50: Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126): The Double-Edge Sword of Competence, Overextending for a Cause, and Trusting the Felt-Sense YesJulie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt you’re riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence — in painting, music, and even dog training — brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what it’s like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic “yes,” and how her 2-fix allows her to “see people’s souls.” Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.   

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/  

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course  

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/  

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994  

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram    

TIMESTAMPS  

00:00 - Intro  

03:04 - Julie’s journey as an artist  

17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1  

22:43 - 1’s rigidity in music  

28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center  

31:44 - 1w2 “rightness of action”  

34:18 - Type 2/2fix “tracking emotional data points”  

44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?  

49:27 - Julie’s relationship to criticality  

57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health  

1:00:47 - “Primordial Perfection”  

1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type  

1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1  

1:17:25 - Outro   

CREDITS 

Interview by Josh Lavine  
Edited by Kristen Oberly  
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay  
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/  
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/   

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram1

]]>Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt you’re riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence — in painting, music, and even dog training — brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what it’s like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic “yes,” and how her 2-fix allows her to “see people’s souls.” Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.   

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/  

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course  

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/  

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994  

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram    

TIMESTAMPS  

00:00 - Intro  

03:04 - Julie’s journey as an artist  

17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1  

22:43 - 1’s rigidity in music  

28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center  

31:44 - 1w2 “rightness of action”  

34:18 - Type 2/2fix “tracking emotional data points”  

44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?  

49:27 - Julie’s relationship to criticality  

57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health  

1:00:47 - “Primordial Perfection”  

1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type  

1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1  

1:17:25 - Outro   

CREDITS 

Interview by Josh Lavine  
Edited by Kristen Oberly  
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay  
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/  
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/   

---  

#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram1

]]>Kajabi-2149027607Tue, 13 May 2025 10:00:00 -050001:19:34falsefull#49: Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) – Gatekeeping my Reality, Blaming Myself for Naivety, and Protecting My Severed Soul#49: Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) – Gatekeeping my Reality, Blaming Myself for Naivety, and Protecting My Severed SoulKim (SO/SP 8w7 863) joins us for an intimate and unguarded exploration of the inner world of Eight — where sovereignty is survival, connection is a gamble, and straight talk is an act of love. From the first moments, Kim’s presence is unmistakable: a force of nature, all-in from the outset, inviting others to meet her at full throttle. We explore the emotional paradox at the heart of the Social Eight — the innocent hope that others will meet her with the same raw honesty she offers, the crushing self-blame that follows when that trust proves misplaced, and the instinct to amputate not just relationships but parts of her own soul in self-protection. We delve into the Eight’s preemptive numbing, the hardened stance of being the gatekeeper of her world, and the quiet grief of being valued only for what she gives — not for who she is. Kim’s story is a vivid portrait of Eight’s vulnerability beneath the armor, and of the slow, courageous return to wholeness.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@UCPiABQQQE4Ret7cwmy-GmRA

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:08 - BOOM; here it is, 8w7 energy

6:41 - “I’m not a law of nature, I’m a force of it"

14:31 - Rejection core; cutting parts off, self-hatred

20:16 - Living as a social hexad type in a world of attachment types

26:41 - 8 and naiveté

34:35 - Social controlling, “I’m the queen of the chess board”

45:40 - Black and white mindset, 8s relationship to anger

54:07 - “You care about what I am, not who I am”, rejection and usefulness

1:02:08 - Anger vs. indifference and their role in care

1:06:52 - Understanding delusional or realistic boundaries

1:13:16 - Apologetic 8, integrity

1:22:00 - Forgiveness and innocence

1:26:11 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

---
#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram8

]]>Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) joins us for an intimate and unguarded exploration of the inner world of Eight — where sovereignty is survival, connection is a gamble, and straight talk is an act of love. From the first moments, Kim’s presence is unmistakable: a force of nature, all-in from the outset, inviting others to meet her at full throttle. We explore the emotional paradox at the heart of the Social Eight — the innocent hope that others will meet her with the same raw honesty she offers, the crushing self-blame that follows when that trust proves misplaced, and the instinct to amputate not just relationships but parts of her own soul in self-protection. We delve into the Eight’s preemptive numbing, the hardened stance of being the gatekeeper of her world, and the quiet grief of being valued only for what she gives — not for who she is. Kim’s story is a vivid portrait of Eight’s vulnerability beneath the armor, and of the slow, courageous return to wholeness.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@UCPiABQQQE4Ret7cwmy-GmRA

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:08 - BOOM; here it is, 8w7 energy

6:41 - “I’m not a law of nature, I’m a force of it"

14:31 - Rejection core; cutting parts off, self-hatred

20:16 - Living as a social hexad type in a world of attachment types

26:41 - 8 and naiveté

34:35 - Social controlling, “I’m the queen of the chess board”

45:40 - Black and white mindset, 8s relationship to anger

54:07 - “You care about what I am, not who I am”, rejection and usefulness

1:02:08 - Anger vs. indifference and their role in care

1:06:52 - Understanding delusional or realistic boundaries

1:13:16 - Apologetic 8, integrity

1:22:00 - Forgiveness and innocence

1:26:11 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram8

]]>Kajabi-2149022943Tue, 06 May 2025 10:00:00 -050001:27:38falsefull#48: Alice (SO/SP 9w1 973) – Opting In to Existence, Disturbing the World by Existing, and Aching to Crawl Back into a Dead Womb#48: Alice (SO/SP 9w1 973) – Opting In to Existence, Disturbing the World by Existing, and Aching to Crawl Back into a Dead WombAlice (SO/SP 9w1 973) joins us for a profound and poetic exploration of the inner world of Nine — where the background environment can overshadow the self, and the longing isn’t for pleasure, but for the peace of never having been born. We dive into the quiet ache for pre-conscious coziness, the hesitance to disturb reality with one’s presence, and the existential ambivalence at the heart of Nine structure: Do I really want to exist? Alice reflects on the invisible toll of absorbing the world’s energies, the disorienting effects of nightlife work, and the shattering aftermath of real connection gone silent. Her story is a journey of individuation and the slow integration of disparate parts of herself — from coming out as trans, to seeing herself mirrored in others’ self-suppression, and ultimately, to saying yes to life.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:24 - Alice’s current life context

08:17 - Being an extremely sensitive person, social 9 absorbing the environment

17:25 - “Swirling in your own cauldron” of the 9-7 stem

28:17 - “Ruining” the tapestry, 9w1 ethics

35:03 - 9s return to the womb; the desire to be unborn

44:03 - Saying ‘yes’ to experience

46:36 - Childhood

53:27 - Living as a trans woman

1:05:28 - Submitting my whole self to gaze - social instinct, type 3, type 9

1:11:11 - Seeing myself in another’s self-suppression

1:33:53 - Opting out of autopilot and serving a new vision for life

1:49:31 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ --- #enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Alice (SO/SP 9w1 973) joins us for a profound and poetic exploration of the inner world of Nine — where the background environment can overshadow the self, and the longing isn’t for pleasure, but for the peace of never having been born. We dive into the quiet ache for pre-conscious coziness, the hesitance to disturb reality with one’s presence, and the existential ambivalence at the heart of Nine structure: Do I really want to exist? Alice reflects on the invisible toll of absorbing the world’s energies, the disorienting effects of nightlife work, and the shattering aftermath of real connection gone silent. Her story is a journey of individuation and the slow integration of disparate parts of herself — from coming out as trans, to seeing herself mirrored in others’ self-suppression, and ultimately, to saying yes to life.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

02:24 - Alice’s current life context

08:17 - Being an extremely sensitive person, social 9 absorbing the environment

17:25 - “Swirling in your own cauldron” of the 9-7 stem

28:17 - “Ruining” the tapestry, 9w1 ethics

35:03 - 9s return to the womb; the desire to be unborn

44:03 - Saying ‘yes’ to experience

46:36 - Childhood

53:27 - Living as a trans woman

1:05:28 - Submitting my whole self to gaze - social instinct, type 3, type 9

1:11:11 - Seeing myself in another’s self-suppression

1:33:53 - Opting out of autopilot and serving a new vision for life

1:49:31 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ --- #enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Kajabi-2149018782Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -050001:52:08falsefull#47: Sarah Fair (SP/SO 6w7 693) – Disarming Others, Reigning in Unchecked Reactivity, and Overcoming Victim Mentality#47: Sarah Fair (SP/SO 6w7 693) – Disarming Others, Reigning in Unchecked Reactivity, and Overcoming Victim MentalitySarah’s Type 6 mind moves fast—so fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.

LINKS

Sarah's Music https://open.spotify.com/artist/6VAheMN9FSGheExTVAlBXD?si=rbz8XlbPQqaQx3mEr9De0A

The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Reviewing the “bullet points”

07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others

10:07 - What’s hard about ‘touching ground’

25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 ‘underdog’

32:43 - Reactive attachment

39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners

47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center

52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective ‘markers’

1:02:42 - The horror of “it’s all 6, it always has been”

1:17:50 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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]]>Sarah’s Type 6 mind moves fast—so fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.

LINKS

Sarah's Music https://open.spotify.com/artist/6VAheMN9FSGheExTVAlBXD?si=rbz8XlbPQqaQx3mEr9De0A

The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Reviewing the “bullet points”

07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others

10:07 - What’s hard about ‘touching ground’

25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 ‘underdog’

32:43 - Reactive attachment

39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners

47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center

52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective ‘markers’

1:02:42 - The horror of “it’s all 6, it always has been”

1:17:50 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Kajabi-2149012542Tue, 15 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -050001:20:58falsefull#46: Kalla Mort (SO/SP 6w7 639) – Escaping High Control Religion, Coming Out as Queer, and Learning to Orient Myself#46: Kalla Mort (SO/SP 6w7 639) – Escaping High Control Religion, Coming Out as Queer, and Learning to Orient MyselfKalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

 

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center

8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, ‘selling out’ in religion, theater life

10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture

13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals

24:56 - Awakening to identity

33:15 - Christian ‘beacon of love’ vs. personal visceral truth

46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types

50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy

55:10 - 6 ‘copy-paste’ discernment

1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence

1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart

1:31:45 - Deconstruction

1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith

1:51:02 - Getting ‘too big’ for old constructs

1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods

2:02:25 - 6’s mistrust of the mental center

2:18:38 - “My biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivity”

2:25:56 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

--- #enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Kalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

 

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center

8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, ‘selling out’ in religion, theater life

10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture

13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals

24:56 - Awakening to identity

33:15 - Christian ‘beacon of love’ vs. personal visceral truth

46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types

50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy

55:10 - 6 ‘copy-paste’ discernment

1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence

1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart

1:31:45 - Deconstruction

1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith

1:51:02 - Getting ‘too big’ for old constructs

1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods

2:02:25 - 6’s mistrust of the mental center

2:18:38 - “My biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivity”

2:25:56 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

--- #enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Kajabi-2149006704Tue, 01 Apr 2025 11:00:00 -050002:27:25falsefull#45: Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614) - Curating Delicious Environments, Raging About Rotten Bananas, Being Accidentally Available,& Zig-Zagging as I Talk#45: Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614) - Curating Delicious Environments, Raging About Rotten Bananas, Being Accidentally Available,& Zig-Zagging as I TalkSara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quota—forcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy. 

LINKS

Sara’s Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
https://www.sarapryde.com/

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Nervous interview ‘bubbling’, 6-1 stem not managing the stress

09:28 - Social blind “I don’t like being a person”, being perceived, “I have to be mythic”

17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment

22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 can’t cut off from service and security 

29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx

33:41 - “Security” as Self-preservation 6

34:55 - “Muffin Madness”: social blind frustration

49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning

57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind

1:01:19 - Childhood

1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps

1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different ‘parts’ conflicting thoughts/statements

1:30:48 - Outro




CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine 

Edited by Kristen Oberly 

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay 

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ 

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ 

 

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]]>Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quota—forcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy. 

LINKS

Sara’s Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
https://www.sarapryde.com/

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Nervous interview ‘bubbling’, 6-1 stem not managing the stress

09:28 - Social blind “I don’t like being a person”, being perceived, “I have to be mythic”

17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment

22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 can’t cut off from service and security 

29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx

33:41 - “Security” as Self-preservation 6

34:55 - “Muffin Madness”: social blind frustration

49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning

57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind

1:01:19 - Childhood

1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps

1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different ‘parts’ conflicting thoughts/statements

1:30:48 - Outro




CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine 

Edited by Kristen Oberly 

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay 

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ 

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/ 

 

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram6

]]>Kajabi-2149002366Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -050001:32:39truefull#44: Kate Ortega (SO/SX 7w8 793) - "Fun Negativity" vs Real Negativity, Entitled Spoiled Brattiness, the Dream of Being a Kept Woman#44: Kate Ortega (SO/SX 7w8 793) - "Fun Negativity" vs Real Negativity, Entitled Spoiled Brattiness, the Dream of Being a Kept WomanIn this candid Enneagram interview, Kate (SO/SX 7w8 793) discusses her identity as an "entitled brat," her allergy to drudgery and limitation, and her dream (since she was young) of being a "kept woman." She also shares how therapy helped her distinguish between "fun negative" (entertainment) and "real negative" (trauma), allowing her to process difficult emotions rather than "bouncing" away from them. Enjoy.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps 

00:00 - Intro 

03:59 - Outlook on what Kate does in life, not tracking self-preservation linearly 

07:03 - Frustration of 7, not ‘hippy dippy’ 

13:22 - “I live in the land of Kate”, Type 7 relationship to freedom, theater of negativity masks "real" negativity 

20:34 - No super-ego; fighting reality 

22:13 - Friendship as a social 7, having fun and dealing with shit, reciprocity 

28:01 - Being a ‘brat’, wanting to be a ‘kept woman’, freedom from ‘have-to’s’ 

33:29 - SP blind 7: no shame in others caring for them

37:31 - Being assertive, getting ‘in trouble’ as a framework 

42:10 - Being loved more than loving 

45:23 - Harry Potter addiction, proxy for SP grounding 

48:31 - Therapy, letting in past hurts, not bouncing out of pain 

55:21 - Seeing memories in new light, somatic connections 

1:09:40 - Outro  

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CREDITS 

Interview by Josh Lavine  

Edited by Kristen Oberly  

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay  

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/  

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/   

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]]>In this candid Enneagram interview, Kate (SO/SX 7w8 793) discusses her identity as an "entitled brat," her allergy to drudgery and limitation, and her dream (since she was young) of being a "kept woman." She also shares how therapy helped her distinguish between "fun negative" (entertainment) and "real negative" (trauma), allowing her to process difficult emotions rather than "bouncing" away from them. Enjoy.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps 

00:00 - Intro 

03:59 - Outlook on what Kate does in life, not tracking self-preservation linearly 

07:03 - Frustration of 7, not ‘hippy dippy’ 

13:22 - “I live in the land of Kate”, Type 7 relationship to freedom, theater of negativity masks "real" negativity 

20:34 - No super-ego; fighting reality 

22:13 - Friendship as a social 7, having fun and dealing with shit, reciprocity 

28:01 - Being a ‘brat’, wanting to be a ‘kept woman’, freedom from ‘have-to’s’ 

33:29 - SP blind 7: no shame in others caring for them

37:31 - Being assertive, getting ‘in trouble’ as a framework 

42:10 - Being loved more than loving 

45:23 - Harry Potter addiction, proxy for SP grounding 

48:31 - Therapy, letting in past hurts, not bouncing out of pain 

55:21 - Seeing memories in new light, somatic connections 

1:09:40 - Outro  

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CREDITS 

Interview by Josh Lavine  

Edited by Kristen Oberly  

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay  

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/  

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/   

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram7  

]]>Kajabi-2148997037Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -050001:11:10truefull#43: Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) — The Type 9 Mother & Type 6 Daughter Dynamic, Positive Outlook vs. Reactivity, the Challenges of Un-Enmeshing#43: Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) — The Type 9 Mother & Type 6 Daughter Dynamic, Positive Outlook vs. Reactivity, the Challenges of Un-EnmeshingAnna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) is a Type 9 mother who has been undergoing a profound transformation—untangling herself from patterns of enmeshment and reconnecting with her own life-force. In this episode, we focus on Anna’s relationship with her Type 6 daughter and how her Type 9 tendency to merge initially obscured her ability to be present with her daughter's reactivity. We also explore the Positive Outlook reflex of Type 9 and its dynamic tension with the "point-out-the-problem" and "raise-the-alarm" tendency of Type 6. Anna brings remarkable clarity, grace, and self-awareness to this discussion, offering a rare, high-resolution look at the inner experience of a 9 navigating parenthood and the individuation journey. Enjoy this powerful conversation.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro 04:53 - Anna's attachment journey as a mom

08:21 - 9 mom absorbing 6 daughter's reactive processing

12:02 - Slowing down & attuning to self

13:40 - Holding boundaries as a gut type, anchoring to self

16:36 - "An incredible return of energy"

18:36 - The porousness of 9's nervous system, fogginess & infusion

20:56 - Positive type reframe (2, 7, 9) amputates emotional experiences

21:48 - Attachment type fusion (3, 6, 9)

27:28 - Going on autopilot, 9 dissociation

28:26 - 9w8 rejection, shutting down of external stimuli

30:16 - Self-locating via music and art

33:04 - Why it's hard for 9s to be with someone else's pain

36:07 - Josh's mom is a 9w8

40:56 - Positive reframe to keep hope alive, not get "lost" in pain

43:36 - Resensitizing means being more aware of misses

45:19 - Can my relationships bear the new me? -- Hurdles of attachment types returning to themselves

47:40 - 9w8 bluntness shuts down communications

52:48 - Relationship dynamics changing, not needing to be on the same page

55:12 - Saying yes & no without over-explaining

55:46 - Loyalty to self a valuable thing

1:03:11 - 9s integration line to types 3 and 6, valuing oneself & being awake

1:06:45 - New level of relaxation, not trying so hard to keep inner and outer world separate

1:10:47 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) is a Type 9 mother who has been undergoing a profound transformation—untangling herself from patterns of enmeshment and reconnecting with her own life-force. In this episode, we focus on Anna’s relationship with her Type 6 daughter and how her Type 9 tendency to merge initially obscured her ability to be present with her daughter's reactivity. We also explore the Positive Outlook reflex of Type 9 and its dynamic tension with the "point-out-the-problem" and "raise-the-alarm" tendency of Type 6. Anna brings remarkable clarity, grace, and self-awareness to this discussion, offering a rare, high-resolution look at the inner experience of a 9 navigating parenthood and the individuation journey. Enjoy this powerful conversation.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro 04:53 - Anna's attachment journey as a mom

08:21 - 9 mom absorbing 6 daughter's reactive processing

12:02 - Slowing down & attuning to self

13:40 - Holding boundaries as a gut type, anchoring to self

16:36 - "An incredible return of energy"

18:36 - The porousness of 9's nervous system, fogginess & infusion

20:56 - Positive type reframe (2, 7, 9) amputates emotional experiences

21:48 - Attachment type fusion (3, 6, 9)

27:28 - Going on autopilot, 9 dissociation

28:26 - 9w8 rejection, shutting down of external stimuli

30:16 - Self-locating via music and art

33:04 - Why it's hard for 9s to be with someone else's pain

36:07 - Josh's mom is a 9w8

40:56 - Positive reframe to keep hope alive, not get "lost" in pain

43:36 - Resensitizing means being more aware of misses

45:19 - Can my relationships bear the new me? -- Hurdles of attachment types returning to themselves

47:40 - 9w8 bluntness shuts down communications

52:48 - Relationship dynamics changing, not needing to be on the same page

55:12 - Saying yes & no without over-explaining

55:46 - Loyalty to self a valuable thing

1:03:11 - 9s integration line to types 3 and 6, valuing oneself & being awake

1:06:45 - New level of relaxation, not trying so hard to keep inner and outer world separate

1:10:47 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram9

]]>Kajabi-2148993920Tue, 11 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -050001:13:50falsefull#42: Janice (SP/SO 3w2 379) - Being an Amazon Woman at 84, Freedom from Expectation, & the Paradox of Self-Acceptance & Self-Development#42: Janice (SP/SO 3w2 379) - Being an Amazon Woman at 84, Freedom from Expectation, & the Paradox of Self-Acceptance & Self-DevelopmentJanice is a life-coach and an Enneagram 3, and at the time of this interview she is 84 years old. We explore her past relationships, the life-long inner tension between doing "what's expected of me" vs "what I want," and what parts of the Type 3 structure still drive her at her life stage. Enjoy.

The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Our Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro

2:40 - Janice's Enneagram history

6:40 - "I can do anything I want to do", the little engine that could

10:00 - Freedom vs the 'shoulds' of life

11:51 - Stances of 'withholding' throughout life; power or protection

13:50 - Rebelling against pressures, superego vs authentic kindness

16:03 - Being nice or feeling responsible, 'not needing' blocks ability to receive

17:08 - "I'm an Amazon woman"... NOT a "little old lady" -- and, shifting to receive

22:07 - Type 3 framework, needing to be seen as valuable and admirable, "the drive for the fundamental"

29:25 - Janice's relationship with growing old, trusting the body, growing intensity

32:55 - Memory, removing the clutter, trusting in presence

36:19 - Relationships, frustration/anger, 7's difficulty with processing 'darker' emotions

39:57 - Going through Janice's four relationships

43:49 - Getting out of a depression, looking at mindsets objectively

46:22 - Taking care of someone in decline, the freedom of stepping back

49:02 - Being in the happiest time of life, having no shame in answering questions, being at peace with the 'lacking' parts of self

58:25 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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#enneagram #enneagramtypes #enneagram3 #enneagramtype3 #enneagraminterview

]]>Janice is a life-coach and an Enneagram 3, and at the time of this interview she is 84 years old. We explore her past relationships, the life-long inner tension between doing "what's expected of me" vs "what I want," and what parts of the Type 3 structure still drive her at her life stage. Enjoy.

The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Our Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro

2:40 - Janice's Enneagram history

6:40 - "I can do anything I want to do", the little engine that could

10:00 - Freedom vs the 'shoulds' of life

11:51 - Stances of 'withholding' throughout life; power or protection

13:50 - Rebelling against pressures, superego vs authentic kindness

16:03 - Being nice or feeling responsible, 'not needing' blocks ability to receive

17:08 - "I'm an Amazon woman"... NOT a "little old lady" -- and, shifting to receive

22:07 - Type 3 framework, needing to be seen as valuable and admirable, "the drive for the fundamental"

29:25 - Janice's relationship with growing old, trusting the body, growing intensity

32:55 - Memory, removing the clutter, trusting in presence

36:19 - Relationships, frustration/anger, 7's difficulty with processing 'darker' emotions

39:57 - Going through Janice's four relationships

43:49 - Getting out of a depression, looking at mindsets objectively

46:22 - Taking care of someone in decline, the freedom of stepping back

49:02 - Being in the happiest time of life, having no shame in answering questions, being at peace with the 'lacking' parts of self

58:25 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

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]]>Kajabi-2148977002Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:00:00 -050001:00:02falsefull#41: Mariona (SX/SO 9w1 973) - Flirting with Life, Crying as SX/SO "Loss of Self," Settling Compulsive Introspection#41: Mariona (SX/SO 9w1 973) - Flirting with Life, Crying as SX/SO "Loss of Self," Settling Compulsive IntrospectionMariona M (SX/SO 9w1 973) is a language activist in Catalonia. In the first phase of this conversation, we explore her complex relationship with crying to process emotional backlog, and how her type's pattern of reaching for deeper self-understanding in order to soothe herself can, ironically, create more inner turbulence. In the second phase, we ground ourselves, and Mariona's essence as an SX 9 comes through. Enjoy.

Mariona's Link Tree
https://linktr.ee/marionamiretlanguages

Browse Interviews by Type & Instinct
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

The Enneagram School
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/

Master the Enneagram (Online Course)
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

 

Timestamps 

00:38 - Intro

03:56 - Self-preservation blind interview set-up

05:51 - Personal process 'is precious', "I am my own home now"

08:24 - Taking self-responsibility for stress, experiencing exhaustion, being sensitive

10:35 - 'The base is always a fragility', crying as a helpful workout

18:18 - Type 9 absorption, sexual instinct need for a discharge

21:56 - Pain "wanting" to be experienced

25:17 - Reaching catharsis, expressing 'messages' of feeling and truths

28:51 - Being a channel for personal discoveries

33:54 - The 'Snow Globe' Effect, living in fantasy rather than enacting it in reality

40:22 - Settling the snow globe of the interview

47:44 - Type 3 attached to conversation productivity, 7 fix flipping tables, Mariona sings from a book

53:38 - Seduction/hooking or flirting with life

57:25 - Demanding/needing attention, sharing openly and being oneself

1:01:37 - Being seduced by creative spontaneity

1:06:16 - Taking ownership of qualities that shine

1:08:27 - Reflection and coming to a close

1:11:41 - Outro

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]]>Mariona M (SX/SO 9w1 973) is a language activist in Catalonia. In the first phase of this conversation, we explore her complex relationship with crying to process emotional backlog, and how her type's pattern of reaching for deeper self-understanding in order to soothe herself can, ironically, create more inner turbulence. In the second phase, we ground ourselves, and Mariona's essence as an SX 9 comes through. Enjoy.

Mariona's Link Tree
https://linktr.ee/marionamiretlanguages

Browse Interviews by Type & Instinct
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

The Enneagram School
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/

Master the Enneagram (Online Course)
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

 

Timestamps 

00:38 - Intro

03:56 - Self-preservation blind interview set-up

05:51 - Personal process 'is precious', "I am my own home now"

08:24 - Taking self-responsibility for stress, experiencing exhaustion, being sensitive

10:35 - 'The base is always a fragility', crying as a helpful workout

18:18 - Type 9 absorption, sexual instinct need for a discharge

21:56 - Pain "wanting" to be experienced

25:17 - Reaching catharsis, expressing 'messages' of feeling and truths

28:51 - Being a channel for personal discoveries

33:54 - The 'Snow Globe' Effect, living in fantasy rather than enacting it in reality

40:22 - Settling the snow globe of the interview

47:44 - Type 3 attached to conversation productivity, 7 fix flipping tables, Mariona sings from a book

53:38 - Seduction/hooking or flirting with life

57:25 - Demanding/needing attention, sharing openly and being oneself

1:01:37 - Being seduced by creative spontaneity

1:06:16 - Taking ownership of qualities that shine

1:08:27 - Reflection and coming to a close

1:11:41 - Outro

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]]>Kajabi-2148977091Tue, 18 Feb 2025 11:00:00 -050001:13:55falsefull#40: INTRO ENNEAGRAM COURSE RELEASE#40: INTRO ENNEAGRAM COURSE RELEASEJohn Luckovich and I (Josh Lavine) are RELEASING OUR INTRO ENNEAGRAM COURSE. In this conversation, we talk about what it was like working together as a Social 3 and a Sexual 4.

We're very proud of the course. Official release is Jan 6, 2025, but you can buy it during our holiday presale at 50% OFF of the founding members price(through Dec 31). Link below.

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

01:57 Josh is burned out, editing is done, intro course is ready

04:17 Josh and John "access" the Enneagram differently

08:35 Josh's SO 3 ability to organize and communicate effectively

10:36 John's 4w5 way of teaching from the inner labyrinth

14:00 How the Enneagram lives inside us

15:30 Two heart type teachers, attention to identity and emotional landscape

18:03 Clarifying unexplored Enneagram terms

20:06 How surprisingly hard it was to create an intro course

24:23 Next steps for the Enneagram School

31:39 Why we did audio not video course

37:33 The course e-book

40:45 Why you should listen to this thing that we worked on!

43:07 Enneagram not just useful "at work" or "in relationships," but wherever people are

45:18 Use this course to start from the roots

49:09 Outro

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]]>John Luckovich and I (Josh Lavine) are RELEASING OUR INTRO ENNEAGRAM COURSE. In this conversation, we talk about what it was like working together as a Social 3 and a Sexual 4.

We're very proud of the course. Official release is Jan 6, 2025, but you can buy it during our holiday presale at 50% OFF of the founding members price(through Dec 31). Link below.

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

01:57 Josh is burned out, editing is done, intro course is ready

04:17 Josh and John "access" the Enneagram differently

08:35 Josh's SO 3 ability to organize and communicate effectively

10:36 John's 4w5 way of teaching from the inner labyrinth

14:00 How the Enneagram lives inside us

15:30 Two heart type teachers, attention to identity and emotional landscape

18:03 Clarifying unexplored Enneagram terms

20:06 How surprisingly hard it was to create an intro course

24:23 Next steps for the Enneagram School

31:39 Why we did audio not video course

37:33 The course e-book

40:45 Why you should listen to this thing that we worked on!

43:07 Enneagram not just useful "at work" or "in relationships," but wherever people are

45:18 Use this course to start from the roots

49:09 Outro

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]]>Kajabi-2148923969Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:00:00 -050051:28falsefull#39: Nicholas (SP/SO 9w1 936): Inner Envelop Functions, Dispersing Attention, & Learning to Focus#39: Nicholas (SP/SO 9w1 936): Inner Envelop Functions, Dispersing Attention, & Learning to FocusIn this episode, Nicholas (SP/SO 9w1 936) talks about 9's passivity in relation to their dominant instinct and how they can "hope things just work themselves out." He also talks about how he learned to focus, take himself seriously, and summon the discipline to manifest his life vision.

He also works through an intense caffeine spike in self-pres 9 fashion, so you can see in realtime as Nicholas narrates his 9 way of containing the intensity of his experience within an acceptable window of tolerance, or "envelope function."

Couldn't have written it better. Enjoy!

Watch this interview on YouTube to observe body language and other type cues

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

4:11 Learning the Enneagram & mistyping

5:48 Enneagram as weed addiction substitute; something to "latch onto" - body attachment

7:13 9 "leveling" of experience, finding the optimal intensity

9:09 body vs image - what I say depends on how it feels in my body

10:05 Celcius caffeine hitting now, suppressing it within the 9 envelop function

15:24 Time Management, Discipline creates freedom

19:01 freedom as autonomy of the body center

22:16 Being mental last, mind vs body agendas battling; "crazy concept called a budget"

26:04 taking my projects seriously rather than letting it "figure itself out"; 9 passivity relative to dominant instinct

30:06 Relationship motivation to make life improvements - not wanting to be told what to do, but to come to it myself

34:01 What happens when you're told what to do?

40:18 golf is life?

42:03 9 line to 3 - Nicholas' life vision

49:41 Domains of obsessiveness

53:44 9 dispersion of attention keeps life force diffuse; 9 -> 3 is focusing attention

1:00:08 Josh's similarities; 3-9 stem up front

1:03:04 Prioritizing as 9 Engagement, yet paradox -- beware priorities coming from 9-3 ego vs God, grace, higher self

1:10:08 9 "I don't matter" --> others should prioritize ME more; 9 ego - not wanting to be ignored (disrespected)

1:12:58 faith as anchor for self-remembering

1:16:00 How enneagram can reinforce personality instead of liberate to focus on what's really important

1:20:31 The Celsius Drink Finale!

 

]]>In this episode, Nicholas (SP/SO 9w1 936) talks about 9's passivity in relation to their dominant instinct and how they can "hope things just work themselves out." He also talks about how he learned to focus, take himself seriously, and summon the discipline to manifest his life vision.

He also works through an intense caffeine spike in self-pres 9 fashion, so you can see in realtime as Nicholas narrates his 9 way of containing the intensity of his experience within an acceptable window of tolerance, or "envelope function."

Couldn't have written it better. Enjoy!

Watch this interview on YouTube to observe body language and other type cues

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

4:11 Learning the Enneagram & mistyping

5:48 Enneagram as weed addiction substitute; something to "latch onto" - body attachment

7:13 9 "leveling" of experience, finding the optimal intensity

9:09 body vs image - what I say depends on how it feels in my body

10:05 Celcius caffeine hitting now, suppressing it within the 9 envelop function

15:24 Time Management, Discipline creates freedom

19:01 freedom as autonomy of the body center

22:16 Being mental last, mind vs body agendas battling; "crazy concept called a budget"

26:04 taking my projects seriously rather than letting it "figure itself out"; 9 passivity relative to dominant instinct

30:06 Relationship motivation to make life improvements - not wanting to be told what to do, but to come to it myself

34:01 What happens when you're told what to do?

40:18 golf is life?

42:03 9 line to 3 - Nicholas' life vision

49:41 Domains of obsessiveness

53:44 9 dispersion of attention keeps life force diffuse; 9 -> 3 is focusing attention

1:00:08 Josh's similarities; 3-9 stem up front

1:03:04 Prioritizing as 9 Engagement, yet paradox -- beware priorities coming from 9-3 ego vs God, grace, higher self

1:10:08 9 "I don't matter" --> others should prioritize ME more; 9 ego - not wanting to be ignored (disrespected)

1:12:58 faith as anchor for self-remembering

1:16:00 How enneagram can reinforce personality instead of liberate to focus on what's really important

1:20:31 The Celsius Drink Finale!

 

]]>Kajabi-2148918684Sun, 08 Dec 2024 16:30:00 -050001:23:43falsefull#38: Somatic Experiencing® & Alexander Technique with Tracy Einstein — Opening the Brain-Body Superhighway#38: Somatic Experiencing® & Alexander Technique with Tracy Einstein — Opening the Brain-Body SuperhighwayTracy Einstein is a Somatic Experiencing® practitioner and Alexander Technique teacher. We talk all about the body, how it holds and releases trauma, and how she works with clients.

Tracy's Enneagram type is SPSO (Self-preservation / Social) 9w1. 

Enjoy!

Links
Tracy's Website
The Enneagram School
Deb Dana's website (Teacher of Polyvagal Theory)

Book mentioned
Nurturing Resilience: Helping Clients Move Forward from Developmental Trauma--An Integrative Somatic Approach by Kathy Kain & Stephen Terrell

Resources to Go Deeper
Body Learning -- a book about Alexander Technique
In an Unspoken Voice by Peter Levine -- a book about Somatic Experiencing

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:49 Our Body-blind culture

4:22 Tracy's journey to body work

7:44 The Preverbal universe

11:22 What is Alexander Technique?

15:00 Debauched Kinsethesia

18:03 Optimal Use

27:22 Endgaining -- how being too results oriented sabotages the work

30:37 The Enneagram Centers (Body, Heart, Mind)

32:22 Opening up superhighway between brain and body

34:48 What is somatic experiencing? (Letting body process without mental self-consciousness) 40:00 Tracy's practitioner lens -- what she notices

47:50 What is Polyvagal Theory?

51:31 You have to disengage social posturing to sense within

54:09 Many paths to regulation -- arguably the point of all modalities

56:46 Centering your own healing as practitioner is crucial; very clear lesson from AT because of body to body transference

58:57 Alexander Training

1:02:17 Having kid -- noticing what we learn before words -- the preverbal universe is the foundation of our lives

1:05:01 The terrible gift of trauma -- & the structure of society creates impossible parenting situations

1:09:07 You might not understand what's shifting somatically but don't need to -- body vs mental intelligence (or left vs right brain)

1:12:04 Final reflections

...]]>Tracy Einstein is a Somatic Experiencing® practitioner and Alexander Technique teacher. We talk all about the body, how it holds and releases trauma, and how she works with clients.

Tracy's Enneagram type is SPSO (Self-preservation / Social) 9w1. 

Enjoy!

Links
Tracy's Website
The Enneagram School
Deb Dana's website (Teacher of Polyvagal Theory)

Book mentioned
Nurturing Resilience: Helping Clients Move Forward from Developmental Trauma--An Integrative Somatic Approach by Kathy Kain & Stephen Terrell

Resources to Go Deeper
Body Learning -- a book about Alexander Technique
In an Unspoken Voice by Peter Levine -- a book about Somatic Experiencing

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:49 Our Body-blind culture

4:22 Tracy's journey to body work

7:44 The Preverbal universe

11:22 What is Alexander Technique?

15:00 Debauched Kinsethesia

18:03 Optimal Use

27:22 Endgaining -- how being too results oriented sabotages the work

30:37 The Enneagram Centers (Body, Heart, Mind)

32:22 Opening up superhighway between brain and body

34:48 What is somatic experiencing? (Letting body process without mental self-consciousness) 40:00 Tracy's practitioner lens -- what she notices

47:50 What is Polyvagal Theory?

51:31 You have to disengage social posturing to sense within

54:09 Many paths to regulation -- arguably the point of all modalities

56:46 Centering your own healing as practitioner is crucial; very clear lesson from AT because of body to body transference

58:57 Alexander Training

1:02:17 Having kid -- noticing what we learn before words -- the preverbal universe is the foundation of our lives

1:05:01 The terrible gift of trauma -- & the structure of society creates impossible parenting situations

1:09:07 You might not understand what's shifting somatically but don't need to -- body vs mental intelligence (or left vs right brain)

1:12:04 Final reflections

1:12:50 Plugs & Resources!

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]]>Kajabi-2148868622Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:00:00 -050001:15:42falsefull#37: Dreams & the Enneagram — Kristen Oberly & Kaisa Jauhiainen#37: Dreams & the Enneagram — Kristen Oberly & Kaisa JauhiainenKristen Oberly & Kaisa Jauhiainen -- aka The Dream Girls (minus Sammy!) -- are brilliant pioneers who have discovered the connection between their unconscious dream worlds and their instinctual drives and Enneagram type, and they have convinced me of the power of working with Dreams for personal transformation. They are offering a class through the Enneagram School starting 9/15 to help you develop a creative relationship with your unconscious. Enjoy!

Links
Connect with Kristen for Dream Analysis
Sinsomnia Podcast on Apple
Dreams Class Webinar
Sign up for their class

Enneagram Resources
The Enneagram School Website
Longform Interviews with Each Enneagram Type

Timestamps

0:00 intro

3:37 Interview Start

4:15 Josh's Dream

17:12 Dream Ego vs what the unconscious is really saying

24:24 social 3 material in Josh's dream

27:59 Josh's skepticism -- are dream symbols really universal?

33:08 Dreams create your personal mythology

38:41 What the unconscious perspective adds to Enneagram

45:22 Kaisa's life since working with dreams

48:51 FIRST to apply jungian dream analysis to personality in this way

51:01 Dreamgirls' synchronized dreaming, unconscious to unconscious connections

55:22 Dreamwork as path to individuation and, surprisingly, the body

58:56 Individuation needs the unconscious perspective

1:02:44 Dreams are creative and freeing; Overcoming inner work fatigue

1:06:49 Kaisa's creative relationship with dreams -- becoming more grounded

1:13:07 All about their class

1:21:25 Outro & Plugs!

#dreams #enneagram #innerwork #growth #dreams

]]>Kristen Oberly & Kaisa Jauhiainen -- aka The Dream Girls (minus Sammy!) -- are brilliant pioneers who have discovered the connection between their unconscious dream worlds and their instinctual drives and Enneagram type, and they have convinced me of the power of working with Dreams for personal transformation. They are offering a class through the Enneagram School starting 9/15 to help you develop a creative relationship with your unconscious. Enjoy!

Links
Connect with Kristen for Dream Analysis
Sinsomnia Podcast on Apple
Dreams Class Webinar
Sign up for their class

Enneagram Resources
The Enneagram School Website
Longform Interviews with Each Enneagram Type

Timestamps

0:00 intro

3:37 Interview Start

4:15 Josh's Dream

17:12 Dream Ego vs what the unconscious is really saying

24:24 social 3 material in Josh's dream

27:59 Josh's skepticism -- are dream symbols really universal?

33:08 Dreams create your personal mythology

38:41 What the unconscious perspective adds to Enneagram

45:22 Kaisa's life since working with dreams

48:51 FIRST to apply jungian dream analysis to personality in this way

51:01 Dreamgirls' synchronized dreaming, unconscious to unconscious connections

55:22 Dreamwork as path to individuation and, surprisingly, the body

58:56 Individuation needs the unconscious perspective

1:02:44 Dreams are creative and freeing; Overcoming inner work fatigue

1:06:49 Kaisa's creative relationship with dreams -- becoming more grounded

1:13:07 All about their class

1:21:25 Outro & Plugs!

#dreams #enneagram #innerwork #growth #dreams

]]>Kajabi-2148817979Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:30:00 -050001:24:18truefull#36: Kim (SP/SO 7w6 712) - Surviving Trauma, EMDR Therapy, Avoiding Entrapment, and Settling the Mental Froth#36: Kim (SP/SO 7w6 712) - Surviving Trauma, EMDR Therapy, Avoiding Entrapment, and Settling the Mental Froth"I'm a manifester like nobody is.... No doesn't work for me. I don't even know what no means. No means I gotta think about it in a different way." ~ Kim Jozwiak

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WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE 

The Enneagram School Website

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Kim Jozwiak [SP/SO 7w6 712] is a therapist and trauma survivor whose life story blew me away. As a therapist, she works with EMDR therapy, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and various forms of mindfulness. We discuss her life story, her trauma, and how she settled her mental center and grounded herself. Enjoy.   

Links
Kim's Website for EMDR & Equine Therapy
Interviews with other Enneagram Types

Timestamps: 

0:00 Intro

3:48 Sweaty hands to start, nervous, "I've always been a runner"

6:08 7 interpretation of arousal unlikely to be "I'm anxious," more positive framing, buzzing exhilaration

9:01 Haircutting after trauma; mom's response, "Just trust in the Lord!"

11:24 Kim's "parts" consent to tell her life story; mom's brain injury 1 year before pregnant with me

15:41 Being molested & later symptoms, social anxiety

20:22 7 with triple super-ego (1, 2, 6) + disorganized attachment; repulsed when others merge with me

24:25 True crime fascination as counter-phobic response to be near psychological pay-dirt; "President of the misfits"

27:11 Traumatic middle school years: "instant love affair" with pot, alcohol; being taken advantage of; dad dies, religious gaslighting

33:43 Hiding overwhelmed self; NO ONE KNEW; checked out mother praying over me in tongues

37:09 "I'm amazing at not getting caught." 7 ability to get what I want; "I will not be trapped by not having enough money" -- the only friend with a job; SP awareness

41:55 From insincere faker to genuine "Jesus freak" - The Billy Graham Crusade and Kim's religious awakening (at 16)

46:43 Josh making sense of Kim's awakening, given previous religious gaslighting

50:32 Despite being pied piper leader, so disconnected that barely remember those people

52:55 The risky 7 way she moved to Chicago after high school

55:47 Flight energy -- "I can't be here. It'll be better somewhere else." Keep moving, "No one's gonna trap me."

58:28 Personality as survival mechanism

1:00:07 "I meet a boy" -- Christian morality, get married bc we're having sex (6 wing); inner split; difficult marriage, intensified drinking; "I kept moving, job to job, skimmed it all, didn't leave room for digestion"

1:06:03 Couples therapy - first time in therapy at all -- then met Joe 1:09:58 Self-abandonment, trauma-based; "should" vs "want"

1:13:41 7 mental "digitization" of others, not truly seeing others, creating suffering; 7-2 stem; in relationship with a 2

1:16:48 The conscious practice of connecting -- can only connect to other when I'm connected to my body

...]]>"I'm a manifester like nobody is.... No doesn't work for me. I don't even know what no means. No means I gotta think about it in a different way." ~ Kim Jozwiak

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WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE 

The Enneagram School Website

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Kim Jozwiak [SP/SO 7w6 712] is a therapist and trauma survivor whose life story blew me away. As a therapist, she works with EMDR therapy, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and various forms of mindfulness. We discuss her life story, her trauma, and how she settled her mental center and grounded herself. Enjoy.   

Links
Kim's Website for EMDR & Equine Therapy
Interviews with other Enneagram Types

Timestamps: 

0:00 Intro

3:48 Sweaty hands to start, nervous, "I've always been a runner"

6:08 7 interpretation of arousal unlikely to be "I'm anxious," more positive framing, buzzing exhilaration

9:01 Haircutting after trauma; mom's response, "Just trust in the Lord!"

11:24 Kim's "parts" consent to tell her life story; mom's brain injury 1 year before pregnant with me

15:41 Being molested & later symptoms, social anxiety

20:22 7 with triple super-ego (1, 2, 6) + disorganized attachment; repulsed when others merge with me

24:25 True crime fascination as counter-phobic response to be near psychological pay-dirt; "President of the misfits"

27:11 Traumatic middle school years: "instant love affair" with pot, alcohol; being taken advantage of; dad dies, religious gaslighting

33:43 Hiding overwhelmed self; NO ONE KNEW; checked out mother praying over me in tongues

37:09 "I'm amazing at not getting caught." 7 ability to get what I want; "I will not be trapped by not having enough money" -- the only friend with a job; SP awareness

41:55 From insincere faker to genuine "Jesus freak" - The Billy Graham Crusade and Kim's religious awakening (at 16)

46:43 Josh making sense of Kim's awakening, given previous religious gaslighting

50:32 Despite being pied piper leader, so disconnected that barely remember those people

52:55 The risky 7 way she moved to Chicago after high school

55:47 Flight energy -- "I can't be here. It'll be better somewhere else." Keep moving, "No one's gonna trap me."

58:28 Personality as survival mechanism

1:00:07 "I meet a boy" -- Christian morality, get married bc we're having sex (6 wing); inner split; difficult marriage, intensified drinking; "I kept moving, job to job, skimmed it all, didn't leave room for digestion"

1:06:03 Couples therapy - first time in therapy at all -- then met Joe 1:09:58 Self-abandonment, trauma-based; "should" vs "want"

1:13:41 7 mental "digitization" of others, not truly seeing others, creating suffering; 7-2 stem; in relationship with a 2

1:16:48 The conscious practice of connecting -- can only connect to other when I'm connected to my body

1:19:02 Therapy with Steve the 8 -- into the body; Being a mental type in therapy, getting past the "froth" to the substance

1:24:31 EMDR therapy -- a method for mental types! 1:32:26 Asking for what I want at my job

1:37:40 Equine therapy, "I'm a manifester" "No doesn't work for me"; drinking a lot of wine...; couldn't crawl out of depression

1:41:39 Confronting my alcohol addiction in therapy school; Going to AA, "something pierced through"; Gluttony leads to entrapment

1:53:49 Sober, vegan therapist -- living from inside out now, aligned to heart

1:57:30 7 Virtue of Sobriety, settled inner state "vs" the frothy mental center activity; IFS helps (!)

2:01:11 IFS similar to working with horses

2:05:03 7 awareness of darkness

2:08:31 How do you know when you're being wise and clear vs cluttered and frothy?

2:13:10 What's this been like?

2:15: 31 Kim's "Angel of Death" -- the part that gave Kim permission

2:17:49 Final Reflections

2:19:06 Plugs

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]]>Kajabi-2148754260Fri, 19 Jul 2024 10:00:00 -050002:21:39truefull#35: How to Activate Your Sexual Instinct — John Luckovich & Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo#35: How to Activate Your Sexual Instinct — John Luckovich & Alexandra Arroyo-AcevedoJoin John Luckovich and Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo for a Summertime class on the Sexual Instinct at The Enneagram School.

Links
The Sexual Instinct Class at The Enneagram School
The Enneagram School Home Page

John Luckovich [SX/SP 4w5] is Co-Founder of The Enneagram School, author of The Instinctual Drives and the Enneagram, and co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast.

Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo [SO/SP 9w1] is a co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast. She also does personal Astrology readings and Enneagram-based commentary on reality shows like the Bachelorette.

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:18 What are the instincts & instinctual stacking?

3:06 What the course is about

4:55 Interview Start — Inspiration for offering this class

7:33 Why develop your sexual instinct?

12:15 Sexual value vs social and self-pres value

14:10 Sexual energy is being your own fun

19:39 Sexual instinct is play; combatting societal shame for frivolous pleasure

21:20 What’s scary about the sexual instinct

26:43 Polarities — you have to be in yourself to occupy a pole

31:46 How different stackings approach sex

37:31 Heart & the instincts; being yourself and losing yourself

40:42 Purpose & sacredness in pleasure, surrendering to enjoyment

45:07 One way doors, loss of self and transformation

46:17 Masculine & feminine polarity

55:14 Polarity is exciting, creates tension

58:59 Balancing the sexual instinct as SX blind vs SX dominant

1:08:31 Practices in the course; differentiating instincts via sensation; reinforcing sexual instinct through personal aesthetic and display

1:15:49 Importance of this topic for society

1:18:20 Class Info

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]]>Join John Luckovich and Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo for a Summertime class on the Sexual Instinct at The Enneagram School.

Links
The Sexual Instinct Class at The Enneagram School
The Enneagram School Home Page

John Luckovich [SX/SP 4w5] is Co-Founder of The Enneagram School, author of The Instinctual Drives and the Enneagram, and co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast.

Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo [SO/SP 9w1] is a co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast. She also does personal Astrology readings and Enneagram-based commentary on reality shows like the Bachelorette.

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:18 What are the instincts & instinctual stacking?

3:06 What the course is about

4:55 Interview Start — Inspiration for offering this class

7:33 Why develop your sexual instinct?

12:15 Sexual value vs social and self-pres value

14:10 Sexual energy is being your own fun

19:39 Sexual instinct is play; combatting societal shame for frivolous pleasure

21:20 What’s scary about the sexual instinct

26:43 Polarities — you have to be in yourself to occupy a pole

31:46 How different stackings approach sex

37:31 Heart & the instincts; being yourself and losing yourself

40:42 Purpose & sacredness in pleasure, surrendering to enjoyment

45:07 One way doors, loss of self and transformation

46:17 Masculine & feminine polarity

55:14 Polarity is exciting, creates tension

58:59 Balancing the sexual instinct as SX blind vs SX dominant

1:08:31 Practices in the course; differentiating instincts via sensation; reinforcing sexual instinct through personal aesthetic and display

1:15:49 Importance of this topic for society

1:18:20 Class Info

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]]>Kajabi-2148713074Mon, 01 Jul 2024 10:00:00 -050001:19:17truefull#34: Chanti (SX/SP 7w6 794) — Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want#34: Chanti (SX/SP 7w6 794) — Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want"I think it's my purpose in life to leave an imprint on people or places I go. Maybe it's like little seeds that I plant or pixie dust I spread around and it blooms a little bit. I just love that."

Full Title: Chanti, Type 7 - Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want

Chanti [SX/SP 7w6 794] is a fascinating and magical human being living in Belgium. We explore how how assertive Chanti can be about her priorities, the difference between frustration and attachment perspectives, and the centrality of her aesthetic impact to her identity. Enjoy. Note: I make a mistake in the first minute, calling Chanti "social first." She is sexual first.

Chanti's Links
YouTube: @MOONFLOWER_asmr
Insta: @moonflowerchanti

The Enneagram School

 

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

3:10 Magically enhancing the space between us

10:57 Bumping heads with 6s, being assertive about standards of art, creativity

14:12 Frustration with 6 colleague about "having to be grateful to boss" for being "allowed" to go on a trip

16:43 Chanti vs Josh's "rule-following" disposition (Frustration vs Attachment)

20: 14 "When people like me I can do whatever I want"; but when charm doesn't work, gets under my skin

26:11 Social blind 7 moment

36:05 Being low superego, story of family, brother's expectation (Frustration vs Attachment) -- low "obligation" energy

44:35 Rationalizing vs coming from sincere inner place

48:27 Chanti's values "vs" Responsibility

52:42 Other's "shoulds" about contraint, my "shoulds" about freedom

56:24 Convincing myself "why I should do something," asking for permission til I get yes (6 wing)

59:41 New nourishment -- social, listening, attunement in relationship

1:08:32 Hidden Social/Heart suffering when others don't value me for my aesthetic contributions

1:18:27 Our SO/SP 3 vs SX/SP 7 conversation dynamic

1:21:12 Chanti's ASMR

1:26:48 Not fun to be social or 6-fixed? ...

1:30:44 Outro & plugs!

 

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]]>"I think it's my purpose in life to leave an imprint on people or places I go. Maybe it's like little seeds that I plant or pixie dust I spread around and it blooms a little bit. I just love that."

Full Title: Chanti, Type 7 - Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want

Chanti [SX/SP 7w6 794] is a fascinating and magical human being living in Belgium. We explore how how assertive Chanti can be about her priorities, the difference between frustration and attachment perspectives, and the centrality of her aesthetic impact to her identity. Enjoy. Note: I make a mistake in the first minute, calling Chanti "social first." She is sexual first.

Chanti's Links
YouTube: @MOONFLOWER_asmr
Insta: @moonflowerchanti

The Enneagram School

 

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

3:10 Magically enhancing the space between us

10:57 Bumping heads with 6s, being assertive about standards of art, creativity

14:12 Frustration with 6 colleague about "having to be grateful to boss" for being "allowed" to go on a trip

16:43 Chanti vs Josh's "rule-following" disposition (Frustration vs Attachment)

20: 14 "When people like me I can do whatever I want"; but when charm doesn't work, gets under my skin

26:11 Social blind 7 moment

36:05 Being low superego, story of family, brother's expectation (Frustration vs Attachment) -- low "obligation" energy

44:35 Rationalizing vs coming from sincere inner place

48:27 Chanti's values "vs" Responsibility

52:42 Other's "shoulds" about contraint, my "shoulds" about freedom

56:24 Convincing myself "why I should do something," asking for permission til I get yes (6 wing)

59:41 New nourishment -- social, listening, attunement in relationship

1:08:32 Hidden Social/Heart suffering when others don't value me for my aesthetic contributions

1:18:27 Our SO/SP 3 vs SX/SP 7 conversation dynamic

1:21:12 Chanti's ASMR

1:26:48 Not fun to be social or 6-fixed? ...

1:30:44 Outro & plugs!

 

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]]>Kajabi-2148689373Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:00:00 -050001:32:54truefull#33: Russ Hudson, Type 5: Isolation, Hyperfocus, & Escaping to Emptiness#33: Russ Hudson, Type 5: Isolation, Hyperfocus, & Escaping to Emptiness"When we live inside a pattern, we don't know that we're living inside a pattern, which is why it's hard for people to type themselves. We just think that's reality. It's like the Johari box, there's what we don't know what we don't know. And I didn't know how desperately disconnected I was. I didn't feel as a child that was missing out on anything. I thought I was just fine. I thought watching the ants was more interesting."

Russ Hudson co-authored The Wisdom of the Enneagram and other Enneagram classics with his longtime collaborator Don Riso. He is also the Co-Founder of the Enneagram Institute and the Founding Director and former Vice President of the International Enneagram Association. Russ has appeared on Good Morning America and The CBS Morning Show and is a popular speaker at conferences and retreat centers around the world including the Esalen Institute, the Wisdom 2.0 Conference, and the Science and Non-Duality Conference (SAND).

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Russ Hudson's Website & Teachings
The Enneagram School Website

Time Stamps

0:00 Intro

2:52: Interview Start — Discovering I was a 5

8:41 The “Ouch” of facing my disconnection

11:03 Spending time alone in childhood, not feeling like I was missing out

14:03 Hard to feel genuine connection or belonging

16:49 Connection problem not fixable on level of personality; not "safe" around people

18:08 Russ' emotional breakthrough & receiving holding

23:35 Love present even when people are deluded or in personality

25:15 Reconciling science & religion since childhood

30:03 Mystery: why some people shrug off experiences but others are transformed -- 5 judgement of others’ valuing their ignorance

32:43 Touch overwhelming as kid — complicates romance & sex; Somatic tightness cementing social isolation

37:24 5 fear the "overwhelm of being"

40:29 Inner experience of escaping to emptiness

43:05 Mental density or emptiness polarity — penetrating into the void

47:30 The experience of discovery, illumination

50:32 The gift & danger of Russ's meticulous memory

52:48 Romance & relationships; merging with ambivalence

57:04 Unsentimental realism / non-attachment "vs" nihilism, cynicism, eject from world

1:00:27 5 Uncooperativeness “vs” flexing for relationship

1:03:51 How Russ relate to your publicness as a 5?

1:06:26 Avarice, withholding of self; withdrawal is rapid and intense

1:11:20 Growing edge: SP blindspot; keeping hope, fighting natural tendency for cynicism; "reasons to be cheerful”

1:17:40 Are you still interested in the enneagram?

1:19:36 The practical angle of creativity

1:21:55 Impractical interests

1:25:46 Plugs

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]]>"When we live inside a pattern, we don't know that we're living inside a pattern, which is why it's hard for people to type themselves. We just think that's reality. It's like the Johari box, there's what we don't know what we don't know. And I didn't know how desperately disconnected I was. I didn't feel as a child that was missing out on anything. I thought I was just fine. I thought watching the ants was more interesting."

Russ Hudson co-authored The Wisdom of the Enneagram and other Enneagram classics with his longtime collaborator Don Riso. He is also the Co-Founder of the Enneagram Institute and the Founding Director and former Vice President of the International Enneagram Association. Russ has appeared on Good Morning America and The CBS Morning Show and is a popular speaker at conferences and retreat centers around the world including the Esalen Institute, the Wisdom 2.0 Conference, and the Science and Non-Duality Conference (SAND).

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Russ Hudson's Website & Teachings
The Enneagram School Website

Time Stamps

0:00 Intro

2:52: Interview Start — Discovering I was a 5

8:41 The “Ouch” of facing my disconnection

11:03 Spending time alone in childhood, not feeling like I was missing out

14:03 Hard to feel genuine connection or belonging

16:49 Connection problem not fixable on level of personality; not "safe" around people

18:08 Russ' emotional breakthrough & receiving holding

23:35 Love present even when people are deluded or in personality

25:15 Reconciling science & religion since childhood

30:03 Mystery: why some people shrug off experiences but others are transformed -- 5 judgement of others’ valuing their ignorance

32:43 Touch overwhelming as kid — complicates romance & sex; Somatic tightness cementing social isolation

37:24 5 fear the "overwhelm of being"

40:29 Inner experience of escaping to emptiness

43:05 Mental density or emptiness polarity — penetrating into the void

47:30 The experience of discovery, illumination

50:32 The gift & danger of Russ's meticulous memory

52:48 Romance & relationships; merging with ambivalence

57:04 Unsentimental realism / non-attachment "vs" nihilism, cynicism, eject from world

1:00:27 5 Uncooperativeness “vs” flexing for relationship

1:03:51 How Russ relate to your publicness as a 5?

1:06:26 Avarice, withholding of self; withdrawal is rapid and intense

1:11:20 Growing edge: SP blindspot; keeping hope, fighting natural tendency for cynicism; "reasons to be cheerful”

1:17:40 Are you still interested in the enneagram?

1:19:36 The practical angle of creativity

1:21:55 Impractical interests

1:25:46 Plugs

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]]>Kajabi-2148631015Tue, 14 May 2024 10:00:00 -050001:27:49falsefull#32: Bob Fecas (SO/SP 2w1 279) — Personal Touch, Saintly Inspiration, & Having a Special Place in Others' Life#32: Bob Fecas (SO/SP 2w1 279) — Personal Touch, Saintly Inspiration, & Having a Special Place in Others' Life“I simply drove to this person’s house right away when I was feeling this rejection and said, listen I’m sitting outside in the car if you want to come out and talk. You know, but I didn’t go to the door and knock. I didn’t want to intrude. I want to respect his freedom. But at the same time I want to say “Hey let’s move on and see what’s happening, and if things need to shift and if I have missed some things, please.”

Bob Fecas [SO/SP 2w1 279] is a spiritual advisor, mentor, and teacher of philosophy and theology in the Atlanta area for over 25 years.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Bob’s Website for Spiritual Mentorship
The Enneagram School Website
Get Officially Typed by Enneagrammer

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:54 Losing Friends & having a "special place" others' life

5:22 Relational disappointment on 70th birthday

7:36 Response when others become “removed"; driving to their house

12:32 Hand on student's shoulder

15:05 Positive Outlook: Expecting relational patch ups

16:53 Helping to help or to feel appreciated?

19:12 Faith — human disappointments couched by a higher love

24:53 Grief & exploring the insincerity of 2

30:36 Being inspired by the Saints; goodness, giving

35:14 Being a teacher — students over content

38:30 Bob's 2-ish compliment to Josh

39:37 Bob's joi d'vivre; physical contact with all

42:15 Gift of making personal contact, even in “discipline"

44:54 Teaching philosophy, relationship with student central

47:59 Relationship as reason to live; as teacher, engaging the unengaged

54:22 The 4 types of teachers 56:38 Another compliment from Bob

57:11 Excellent 2 superego example

58:32 2s being "hypocrites," insincere; 2 image vs identity

1:00:35 Bob's humanness relative to inspiring saints

1:04:00 Owning vs avoiding negative emotions; real vs fake positivity

1:10:42 How do you know when you're spiritually bypassing

1:16:05 What's the most unhealthy you've been psychologically?

1:20:58 Parsing Crises of Meaning vs "going down the levels"

1:25:00 Emptiness underneath the image

1:29:14 Thanks & Salutations

1:31:16 Plugs

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]]>“I simply drove to this person’s house right away when I was feeling this rejection and said, listen I’m sitting outside in the car if you want to come out and talk. You know, but I didn’t go to the door and knock. I didn’t want to intrude. I want to respect his freedom. But at the same time I want to say “Hey let’s move on and see what’s happening, and if things need to shift and if I have missed some things, please.”

Bob Fecas [SO/SP 2w1 279] is a spiritual advisor, mentor, and teacher of philosophy and theology in the Atlanta area for over 25 years.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Bob’s Website for Spiritual Mentorship
The Enneagram School Website
Get Officially Typed by Enneagrammer

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:54 Losing Friends & having a "special place" others' life

5:22 Relational disappointment on 70th birthday

7:36 Response when others become “removed"; driving to their house

12:32 Hand on student's shoulder

15:05 Positive Outlook: Expecting relational patch ups

16:53 Helping to help or to feel appreciated?

19:12 Faith — human disappointments couched by a higher love

24:53 Grief & exploring the insincerity of 2

30:36 Being inspired by the Saints; goodness, giving

35:14 Being a teacher — students over content

38:30 Bob's 2-ish compliment to Josh

39:37 Bob's joi d'vivre; physical contact with all

42:15 Gift of making personal contact, even in “discipline"

44:54 Teaching philosophy, relationship with student central

47:59 Relationship as reason to live; as teacher, engaging the unengaged

54:22 The 4 types of teachers 56:38 Another compliment from Bob

57:11 Excellent 2 superego example

58:32 2s being "hypocrites," insincere; 2 image vs identity

1:00:35 Bob's humanness relative to inspiring saints

1:04:00 Owning vs avoiding negative emotions; real vs fake positivity

1:10:42 How do you know when you're spiritually bypassing

1:16:05 What's the most unhealthy you've been psychologically?

1:20:58 Parsing Crises of Meaning vs "going down the levels"

1:25:00 Emptiness underneath the image

1:29:14 Thanks & Salutations

1:31:16 Plugs

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]]>Kajabi-2148592678Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:00:00 -050001:33:58falsefull#31 The Work of Byron Katie with Todd Smith — How to Question Stressful Thoughts#31 The Work of Byron Katie with Todd Smith — How to Question Stressful Thoughts"I've often heard people talk about The Work of Byron Katie as the "how"... there's the "what" of spiritual development... you know freedom, what it looks like... it's described so well in terms of Essence in the Enneagram. There are many ways to talk about it in many traditions. And there are many ways in terms of the how. But Byron Katie's is such a simple and accessible how. Like, take this step, follow this step, go through these little points... and there's often some evolution happening in just 20-30 minutes."

Todd Smith is a facilitator of The Work of Byron Katie -- one of the most powerful methods of inner work I've encountered. We discuss what it is, demo it, and debrief. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Do The Work With Todd
Listen to Todd to The Work with others in his Podcast

The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:21 Overview of The Work

6:22 Starting The Work -- Josh's stressful dinner

14:21 Unpacking the stressful moment - emotional interpretation, finding the right words

17:25 Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet Line 1 (there are 6 lines total)

20:49 Line 2

22:33 Line 3

28:27 Line 4

31:32 Line 5

33:35 Line 6

37:42 The 4 Questions - "Be in that moment" as you answer

39:21 Question 1

42:44 Question 3

44:37 Catching myself "performing"

55:19 The Turnarounds

56:47 Turnaround 1

1:02:14 Turnaround 2

1:11:06 Heart Center "Image" in the work

1:14:12 Turnaround 3

1:15:36 Summary of The Work

1:20:01 The Work is top practice but resisted; attachment to suffering

1:27:02 Todd's reflection on enneagram & the work

1:31:20 The 3 Centers & The Work

1:39:07 The Work & Gendlin's Focusing (finding the right words)

1:48:34 The power of allowing the tantrum

1:47:09 The practice vs "image" of having an open mind

1:51:13 Diagnosis not same as cure

1:56:23 The Work & Adult Ego Development

2:02:44 We approach inner work in the style of our type

2:09:45 Salutations

2:12:55 Plugs 

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]]>"I've often heard people talk about The Work of Byron Katie as the "how"... there's the "what" of spiritual development... you know freedom, what it looks like... it's described so well in terms of Essence in the Enneagram. There are many ways to talk about it in many traditions. And there are many ways in terms of the how. But Byron Katie's is such a simple and accessible how. Like, take this step, follow this step, go through these little points... and there's often some evolution happening in just 20-30 minutes."

Todd Smith is a facilitator of The Work of Byron Katie -- one of the most powerful methods of inner work I've encountered. We discuss what it is, demo it, and debrief. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Do The Work With Todd
Listen to Todd to The Work with others in his Podcast

The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:21 Overview of The Work

6:22 Starting The Work -- Josh's stressful dinner

14:21 Unpacking the stressful moment - emotional interpretation, finding the right words

17:25 Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet Line 1 (there are 6 lines total)

20:49 Line 2

22:33 Line 3

28:27 Line 4

31:32 Line 5

33:35 Line 6

37:42 The 4 Questions - "Be in that moment" as you answer

39:21 Question 1

42:44 Question 3

44:37 Catching myself "performing"

55:19 The Turnarounds

56:47 Turnaround 1

1:02:14 Turnaround 2

1:11:06 Heart Center "Image" in the work

1:14:12 Turnaround 3

1:15:36 Summary of The Work

1:20:01 The Work is top practice but resisted; attachment to suffering

1:27:02 Todd's reflection on enneagram & the work

1:31:20 The 3 Centers & The Work

1:39:07 The Work & Gendlin's Focusing (finding the right words)

1:48:34 The power of allowing the tantrum

1:47:09 The practice vs "image" of having an open mind

1:51:13 Diagnosis not same as cure

1:56:23 The Work & Adult Ego Development

2:02:44 We approach inner work in the style of our type

2:09:45 Salutations

2:12:55 Plugs 

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]]>Kajabi-2148575326Tue, 16 Apr 2024 10:00:00 -050002:16:44falsefull#30: Gendlin's Focusing with Sandy Jahmi Burg — How to Listen to Your Body#30: Gendlin's Focusing with Sandy Jahmi Burg — How to Listen to Your BodySandy Jahmi Burg is a facilitator of Gendlin's Focusing -- the most powerful method of tapping into body intelligence that I've encountered. In this interview, we define it, demo it, and debrief. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn Focusing with Sandy
The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

3:46 What is Focusing?

6:30 The "felt-sense" implies "life-forward" movement

10:02 The importance of being "in relationship" with the felt sense

12:13 Making an invitation as you enter a Focusing session

13:35 Demo - Lead in & invitation, creating conditions for a felt sense to arrive

18:33 Demo - The first felt sense, "taking our understanding back" to our bodies

20:08 Demo - Making contact & letting it know you hear it, "Getting into relationship"

24:06 Demo - Acknowledging & getting "bigger than"

25:37 Demo - Responding to how it sees you

28:19 Demo - It's "message" for me

32:11 Wordless metabolizing; sitting in the "solution" state, not the problem

35:00 Setting an intention vs inhabiting a way of being

38:26 What the hell just happened? - The "steps" in a Focusing Journey

39:24 The grocery store analogy; Discovering, making contact, coming into relationship, experiencing shift

49:12 The leap of faith -- acknowledging what arises as sentient entities

51:00 Parts Work & the "Self" (capital S); on being merged with a part & getting "bigger than" it

54:58 The "result" of a focusing session: before, merged; after, in relationship

59:50 The facilitator's POV: tracking, giving prompts, helping Focuser get into relationship

1:08:29 On "checking back" with the body; when something feels understood and accepted for how it is now, that's what releases it to shift

1:11:56 when something feels understood and accepted for how it is now, that's what releases it to shift

1:20:15 How to work with Sandy

1:21:59 Plugs

]]>Sandy Jahmi Burg is a facilitator of Gendlin's Focusing -- the most powerful method of tapping into body intelligence that I've encountered. In this interview, we define it, demo it, and debrief. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn Focusing with Sandy
The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

3:46 What is Focusing?

6:30 The "felt-sense" implies "life-forward" movement

10:02 The importance of being "in relationship" with the felt sense

12:13 Making an invitation as you enter a Focusing session

13:35 Demo - Lead in & invitation, creating conditions for a felt sense to arrive

18:33 Demo - The first felt sense, "taking our understanding back" to our bodies

20:08 Demo - Making contact & letting it know you hear it, "Getting into relationship"

24:06 Demo - Acknowledging & getting "bigger than"

25:37 Demo - Responding to how it sees you

28:19 Demo - It's "message" for me

32:11 Wordless metabolizing; sitting in the "solution" state, not the problem

35:00 Setting an intention vs inhabiting a way of being

38:26 What the hell just happened? - The "steps" in a Focusing Journey

39:24 The grocery store analogy; Discovering, making contact, coming into relationship, experiencing shift

49:12 The leap of faith -- acknowledging what arises as sentient entities

51:00 Parts Work & the "Self" (capital S); on being merged with a part & getting "bigger than" it

54:58 The "result" of a focusing session: before, merged; after, in relationship

59:50 The facilitator's POV: tracking, giving prompts, helping Focuser get into relationship

1:08:29 On "checking back" with the body; when something feels understood and accepted for how it is now, that's what releases it to shift

1:11:56 when something feels understood and accepted for how it is now, that's what releases it to shift

1:20:15 How to work with Sandy

1:21:59 Plugs

]]>Kajabi-2148575319Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:00:00 -050001:24:08falsefull#29 Yamira (SO/SX 5w4 531) — High Stakes Art, Grief & Creativity, & Crossing the Bridge to an "Other"#29 Yamira (SO/SX 5w4 531) — High Stakes Art, Grief & Creativity, & Crossing the Bridge to an "Other"Yamira [SO/SX 5w4 531] is an artist in New York. Watch this interview on YouTube so you can see Yamira's art as she talks about it.

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Yamira's Art

Yamira's Social

  • @mossyscabs
  • @_brujaja

The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:49 Why make art?

7:34 Grief losing whole portfolio of art (!)

10:49 What was the Grief like?

12:09 On delaying "dealing with the grief"

13:55 Facing fear and becoming a more "public" person

15:15 5 themes - cerebralizing emotions; privacy

16:50 Becoming more "public" by working at a restaurant

19:51 Wanting to be known; (re)-introducing myself through art

23:19 High stakes art has my Self in it (vs impersonal, low stakes art)

24:29 Example of "lower stakes" art

28:44 Yamira's burrowing 5 mind; getting to more clarity & precision

30:59 What did you learn about grief? -- and how that changed the art

36:13 Yamira's redemptive post-grief arc

37:35 Tattooing, want my art to help people (Though not the why)

40:16 Beauty inherently helps people

41:45 The intimacy of tattoo art; how collaborative?

46:01 Realizing it can be good to share yourself with others. "Didn't used to care about it"

51:22 Overcoming natural tendency NOT to share; childhood memories of rejection

55:49 Social life as an adult

58:55 Others as "aliens"

1:01:30 From isolation to intimacy; "can't respect everyone" (& inner critic backlash); I want to have

fun together but not be clowns

1:06:42 Merriment! - SO/SX with 1 fix - "We should be enjoying ourselves!"

1:11:06 What's this been like?

1:14:48 Plugs

]]>Yamira [SO/SX 5w4 531] is an artist in New York. Watch this interview on YouTube so you can see Yamira's art as she talks about it.

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Yamira's Art

Yamira's Social

  • @mossyscabs
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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:49 Why make art?

7:34 Grief losing whole portfolio of art (!)

10:49 What was the Grief like?

12:09 On delaying "dealing with the grief"

13:55 Facing fear and becoming a more "public" person

15:15 5 themes - cerebralizing emotions; privacy

16:50 Becoming more "public" by working at a restaurant

19:51 Wanting to be known; (re)-introducing myself through art

23:19 High stakes art has my Self in it (vs impersonal, low stakes art)

24:29 Example of "lower stakes" art

28:44 Yamira's burrowing 5 mind; getting to more clarity & precision

30:59 What did you learn about grief? -- and how that changed the art

36:13 Yamira's redemptive post-grief arc

37:35 Tattooing, want my art to help people (Though not the why)

40:16 Beauty inherently helps people

41:45 The intimacy of tattoo art; how collaborative?

46:01 Realizing it can be good to share yourself with others. "Didn't used to care about it"

51:22 Overcoming natural tendency NOT to share; childhood memories of rejection

55:49 Social life as an adult

58:55 Others as "aliens"

1:01:30 From isolation to intimacy; "can't respect everyone" (& inner critic backlash); I want to have

fun together but not be clowns

1:06:42 Merriment! - SO/SX with 1 fix - "We should be enjoying ourselves!"

1:11:06 What's this been like?

1:14:48 Plugs

]]>Kajabi-2148567252Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -050001:17:08falsefull#28: Kelly (SO/SX 5w6 512) — Unnecessary Emotions, Rejection-Attachment Relationship Dynamics, Doing My Own Thing#28: Kelly (SO/SX 5w6 512) — Unnecessary Emotions, Rejection-Attachment Relationship Dynamics, Doing My Own ThingKelly Ayadi [SO/SX 5w6 512] is frequenter of online Enneagram forums and a somewhat more "relational" type 5 than might be typical, given her double-people instinctual stacking and 2 fix. In this conversation, we talk about her childhood "doing her own thing" and her relationship with her 9 partner, her kids, and her family. Kelly's framing of certain emotions as "unnecessary" is illuminating, as is her relationship with expressing love in a way that reaches the other person and appreciation for acts of kindness from her partner. I feel this conversation is very helpful in showing how 5s differ from 9s, and more broadly how 5s operate in relationship via rejection in the mental center.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:42 Little Kelly

5:45 Kelly's work at dept of human services

8:19 Conversation anchorpoints

9:13 "Professional student," doing my own path, not having to deal with outside noise & relationships

13:13 People-y stacking "vs" 5 private, uncooperative

15:51 Drone operator as 5 metaphor

17:26 Not wanting to be touched; doing own thing

21:58 What is my "own thing"? People fascination

24:32 Partner as specimen(?)

27:18 Withdrawing in relationship, won't compromise self

30:35 Our Courtship; defending me online was "unnecessary"

35:16 Rejection-Attachment dynamic in relationship; appreciating "unnecessary" kindness

41:52 Untouchable independence; emotional neutrality

44:19 Unpacking "Unnecessary"

46:54 Fantasy of lower emotionality everywhere

49:43 Not entering other's frame (Avarice); non-reciprocal expectations: "you come to me, I don't go to you"

53:15 First relationship I *want* to make work; becoming more flexible?

59:37 Entering others frame as rejection type

1:02:16 Painful learning I wasn't a "Nurturing" mom

1:05:27 I want to be loving but don't know how

1:10:15 Were you nurtured? Did it matter?

1:13:46 Pain of not being seen as competent; disconnect about "What matters?"

1:20:26 Pain being the black sheep the "off" one

1:22:00 A good moment with her father

1:24:36 Kelly/Josh's responses to her "heartwarming" story

1:29:43 Intellectually framing experience before I can feel it - what's helped?

1:33:05 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Kelly Ayadi [SO/SX 5w6 512] is frequenter of online Enneagram forums and a somewhat more "relational" type 5 than might be typical, given her double-people instinctual stacking and 2 fix. In this conversation, we talk about her childhood "doing her own thing" and her relationship with her 9 partner, her kids, and her family. Kelly's framing of certain emotions as "unnecessary" is illuminating, as is her relationship with expressing love in a way that reaches the other person and appreciation for acts of kindness from her partner. I feel this conversation is very helpful in showing how 5s differ from 9s, and more broadly how 5s operate in relationship via rejection in the mental center.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:42 Little Kelly

5:45 Kelly's work at dept of human services

8:19 Conversation anchorpoints

9:13 "Professional student," doing my own path, not having to deal with outside noise & relationships

13:13 People-y stacking "vs" 5 private, uncooperative

15:51 Drone operator as 5 metaphor

17:26 Not wanting to be touched; doing own thing

21:58 What is my "own thing"? People fascination

24:32 Partner as specimen(?)

27:18 Withdrawing in relationship, won't compromise self

30:35 Our Courtship; defending me online was "unnecessary"

35:16 Rejection-Attachment dynamic in relationship; appreciating "unnecessary" kindness

41:52 Untouchable independence; emotional neutrality

44:19 Unpacking "Unnecessary"

46:54 Fantasy of lower emotionality everywhere

49:43 Not entering other's frame (Avarice); non-reciprocal expectations: "you come to me, I don't go to you"

53:15 First relationship I *want* to make work; becoming more flexible?

59:37 Entering others frame as rejection type

1:02:16 Painful learning I wasn't a "Nurturing" mom

1:05:27 I want to be loving but don't know how

1:10:15 Were you nurtured? Did it matter?

1:13:46 Pain of not being seen as competent; disconnect about "What matters?"

1:20:26 Pain being the black sheep the "off" one

1:22:00 A good moment with her father

1:24:36 Kelly/Josh's responses to her "heartwarming" story

1:29:43 Intellectually framing experience before I can feel it - what's helped?

1:33:05 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371288Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -050001:35:15falsefull#27 BONUS EP: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Engagement in the Mental Center, Finding Truth in the Body, & Cultivating Inner Authority#27 BONUS EP: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Engagement in the Mental Center, Finding Truth in the Body, & Cultivating Inner AuthorityI present to you the audio of the infamous Mascara Incident (which we don't talk about). This was recorded in December 2022, about 9 months before Courtney's official video interview. In this conversation, we explore Courtney's experience as an Attachment type in the Mental center, her typing journey (starting at 1, landing on 6), and her 6-ish journey to uncovering original insights about Object Relations and sharing them on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast. We also touch on Alexander Technique and other grounding practices that helped Courtney discover her Inner Authority and her body's ability to discern Truth. 

Courtney's Coaching & Enneagram Consulting Website

The Enneagram School's Website

Courtney on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast -- their most popular episodes on Object Relations

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:27 Enneagram origin story; conscious leadership group; resisting 6, mistyping as 1 (hopeful identification, similar to 9->4)

8:17 How'd you realize you were a 6?

11:40 Complexity around 6 & "Inner Guidance" --> journey to 6 demonstrating 6's relationship with "authority," attachment & reactivity together, argumentativeness, "pressure-testing"

15:47 What builds trust -- ENGAGEMENT, willingness to engage -- "Are you gonna play that game with me?"; wanting other to be certain, yet also willing to meet me in uncertainty

19:19 Stamina for this kind of "engaging"

20:33 Looking for stability, "up there" in the mental space, where you can't find it

24:25 What's helped you ground? Footwork, balance, improving sensation, Alexander Technique, Letting the breath catch up with the mind

28:12 What is Alexander Technique? Why good for 6?

33:40 "Over-muscling": the body creating a false anchor from the mind being overused

38:02 Working with 6s, coach's pov; kinesthetic modeling; how are *you* showing up as coach?

41:53 Exploring: being settled in your own energy as a coach vs "entering their storm"

45:27 On Courtney claiming her inner authority, making discoveries in Object Relations, sharing on BHE

50:27 6 seeking coherence in the map

55:28 Why so important for things to make sense? Fear of randomness; "Faith" that "the pieces should fit together

58:30 Exploring attachment, Courtney's obsessive journey of discovering her insights; attachment, denial of self, responding to parental failure

1:02:21 Courtney's Object Relations insights applied to herself; energy towards maintaining "good relationships," but "on what terms?"

1:04:28 Examples!: mindful of teacher's perspectives, wary to contradict, assuming my ideas are derivative; how do I say something without saying others are wrong? (which compromises relationship)

1:10:49 Putting relationship at risk by having a different view

1:14:26 Courtney's 5 wing

1:21:50 What's it like now to have "exposed yourself as an authority?" .. Resistance to claiming it 

1:26:26 Why does someone *want* to be an authority?

1:29:35 Tension between my 3 & Courtney's 6 in seeing her as an authority

1:36:29 Texture on words that originally had no juice for Courtney:...]]>I present to you the audio of the infamous Mascara Incident (which we don't talk about). This was recorded in December 2022, about 9 months before Courtney's official video interview. In this conversation, we explore Courtney's experience as an Attachment type in the Mental center, her typing journey (starting at 1, landing on 6), and her 6-ish journey to uncovering original insights about Object Relations and sharing them on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast. We also touch on Alexander Technique and other grounding practices that helped Courtney discover her Inner Authority and her body's ability to discern Truth. 

Courtney's Coaching & Enneagram Consulting Website

The Enneagram School's Website

Courtney on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast -- their most popular episodes on Object Relations

Get typed by Enneagrammer

 

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:27 Enneagram origin story; conscious leadership group; resisting 6, mistyping as 1 (hopeful identification, similar to 9->4)

8:17 How'd you realize you were a 6?

11:40 Complexity around 6 & "Inner Guidance" --> journey to 6 demonstrating 6's relationship with "authority," attachment & reactivity together, argumentativeness, "pressure-testing"

15:47 What builds trust -- ENGAGEMENT, willingness to engage -- "Are you gonna play that game with me?"; wanting other to be certain, yet also willing to meet me in uncertainty

19:19 Stamina for this kind of "engaging"

20:33 Looking for stability, "up there" in the mental space, where you can't find it

24:25 What's helped you ground? Footwork, balance, improving sensation, Alexander Technique, Letting the breath catch up with the mind

28:12 What is Alexander Technique? Why good for 6?

33:40 "Over-muscling": the body creating a false anchor from the mind being overused

38:02 Working with 6s, coach's pov; kinesthetic modeling; how are *you* showing up as coach?

41:53 Exploring: being settled in your own energy as a coach vs "entering their storm"

45:27 On Courtney claiming her inner authority, making discoveries in Object Relations, sharing on BHE

50:27 6 seeking coherence in the map

55:28 Why so important for things to make sense? Fear of randomness; "Faith" that "the pieces should fit together

58:30 Exploring attachment, Courtney's obsessive journey of discovering her insights; attachment, denial of self, responding to parental failure

1:02:21 Courtney's Object Relations insights applied to herself; energy towards maintaining "good relationships," but "on what terms?"

1:04:28 Examples!: mindful of teacher's perspectives, wary to contradict, assuming my ideas are derivative; how do I say something without saying others are wrong? (which compromises relationship)

1:10:49 Putting relationship at risk by having a different view

1:14:26 Courtney's 5 wing

1:21:50 What's it like now to have "exposed yourself as an authority?" .. Resistance to claiming it 

1:26:26 Why does someone *want* to be an authority?

1:29:35 Tension between my 3 & Courtney's 6 in seeing her as an authority

1:36:29 Texture on words that originally had no juice for Courtney: Attachment, Support, Loyalty, Duty, Responsibility

1:42:44 Heart vs Head Center main preoccupation

1:45:41 Thank you's

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]]>Kajabi-2148371289Tue, 10 Oct 2023 16:00:00 -050001:46:47falsebonus#26: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Outsourcing Agency, the Call to Self-Responsibility, Playfulness#26: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Outsourcing Agency, the Call to Self-Responsibility, PlayfulnessCourtney Smith [SO/SP 6w5 631] is a brilliant & original Enneagram thinker who has contributed hugely to our understanding of Object Relations. In this conversation, we explore her life as a 6 navigating her desire to work within systems and to rebel against them, and ultimately cultivating a more grounded relationship to her inner authority. Courtney's insights are illuminating and penetrating as always.

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Courtney's Coaching & Enneagram Consulting Website

The Enneagram School's Website

Courtney on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast -- their most popular episodes on Object Relations

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:15 Interview Start & Josh's messy hair

4:30 Setting up Courtney's biography

5:36 Do you hold a sense of your life story as a 6?

6:53 Professional trajectory as the way in; family all doctors & lawyers roles, safe, traditional

8:22 Law school, annoying incongruence, "It'd be easier if I liked this!"

9:23 Gender & Enneagram lens in college, split & trying to integrate analytical & quantitative, only-women-in-math-class and no-men-in-women's-studies; what's my place?

10:30 8 yrs old, "Mom, I'm not gonna stay here" -- wanting out, but not knowing "What do you want to go toward?"

13:20 Courtney's choice of major and minor mathematical economics & women's studies, navigating polarities; qualitative/quantitative, men/women

17:20 "Trying to have it both ways": high achieving within a system & rebelling against the system

20:23 At McKinsey, working super hard, doing what I'm "supposed to do," and disagreeing with it all

25:44 "If it's listened to..."; 6s feeling a lack of agency to shape reality, not willing to risk external authority's alliance; "There's nothing I can do about this. I have no choice."

31:16 Josh's 6 fix relating

33:52 Considered med school, then had baby - focus on reproductive justice, planned parenthood

36:09 focusing only on family was a "bad choice for me" -- left behind key aspects of self

38:33 Self-abandonment: Not taking responsibility for poor choices; "I had no choice!"; none of the credit, none of the blame

43:12 Shift of personal development work, conscious leadership group; "I have to take responsibility" for where I am

46:19 Before and after inner work; changed my life, but "your shit is your shit," esp in "real life" raising kids, home during covid, etc -- you get a new relationship to your patterns

52:11 Relationship now to public health, new life as coach

54:11 New relationship to the inner storm, reactivity; part of me watching myself have a tantrum, not taking it too seriously

57:39 Courtney's playfulness 1:00:30 6s & body work; getting lost in idea-space and finding the inner compass somatically; "Truth lies in the body"

1:07:47 Compulsive reading; skepticism: "I wanna check this out for myself," check people's sources, put the picture together from the ground up

1:11:32 6's devotional heart, contributing to greater whole

1:13:34 On working alone; not questioning life path any more, but still micro-questions about form of current work

1:16:37 Courtney the dragon; being myself the biggest gift I can...]]>Courtney Smith [SO/SP 6w5 631] is a brilliant & original Enneagram thinker who has contributed hugely to our understanding of Object Relations. In this conversation, we explore her life as a 6 navigating her desire to work within systems and to rebel against them, and ultimately cultivating a more grounded relationship to her inner authority. Courtney's insights are illuminating and penetrating as always.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Courtney's Coaching & Enneagram Consulting Website

The Enneagram School's Website

Courtney on the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast -- their most popular episodes on Object Relations

Get typed by Enneagrammer

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:15 Interview Start & Josh's messy hair

4:30 Setting up Courtney's biography

5:36 Do you hold a sense of your life story as a 6?

6:53 Professional trajectory as the way in; family all doctors & lawyers roles, safe, traditional

8:22 Law school, annoying incongruence, "It'd be easier if I liked this!"

9:23 Gender & Enneagram lens in college, split & trying to integrate analytical & quantitative, only-women-in-math-class and no-men-in-women's-studies; what's my place?

10:30 8 yrs old, "Mom, I'm not gonna stay here" -- wanting out, but not knowing "What do you want to go toward?"

13:20 Courtney's choice of major and minor mathematical economics & women's studies, navigating polarities; qualitative/quantitative, men/women

17:20 "Trying to have it both ways": high achieving within a system & rebelling against the system

20:23 At McKinsey, working super hard, doing what I'm "supposed to do," and disagreeing with it all

25:44 "If it's listened to..."; 6s feeling a lack of agency to shape reality, not willing to risk external authority's alliance; "There's nothing I can do about this. I have no choice."

31:16 Josh's 6 fix relating

33:52 Considered med school, then had baby - focus on reproductive justice, planned parenthood

36:09 focusing only on family was a "bad choice for me" -- left behind key aspects of self

38:33 Self-abandonment: Not taking responsibility for poor choices; "I had no choice!"; none of the credit, none of the blame

43:12 Shift of personal development work, conscious leadership group; "I have to take responsibility" for where I am

46:19 Before and after inner work; changed my life, but "your shit is your shit," esp in "real life" raising kids, home during covid, etc -- you get a new relationship to your patterns

52:11 Relationship now to public health, new life as coach

54:11 New relationship to the inner storm, reactivity; part of me watching myself have a tantrum, not taking it too seriously

57:39 Courtney's playfulness 1:00:30 6s & body work; getting lost in idea-space and finding the inner compass somatically; "Truth lies in the body"

1:07:47 Compulsive reading; skepticism: "I wanna check this out for myself," check people's sources, put the picture together from the ground up

1:11:32 6's devotional heart, contributing to greater whole

1:13:34 On working alone; not questioning life path any more, but still micro-questions about form of current work

1:16:37 Courtney the dragon; being myself the biggest gift I can give

1:20:37 Safari experience: "What you're transmitting is amazing and has nothing to do with your words"; Ian McGilchrist book, left-right brain language - non-language communication

1:28:00 What's this been like?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371290Tue, 03 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -050001:30:25falsefull#25: Siena (SX/SO 8w7 827) — Immediacy in Movement Art, the Mystery of Fighting, & the Innocent Heart of the 8#25: Siena (SX/SO 8w7 827) — Immediacy in Movement Art, the Mystery of Fighting, & the Innocent Heart of the 8Siena Hassett [SX/SO 8w7 827] is a Theatre Maker, Movement Artist, and someone who really embodies the virtue of the 8 -- Innocence: the joyful unselfconscious expression of one's life-force, and the willingness to be affected by one's environment. Siena is so alive and engaging, and I couldn't help but be moved by her wide open presence in this conversation. I really appreciate how we moved from "caricaturing" her 8ness in the first 15 minutes to unveiling her real sensitivity and heart, especially as we explore her relationship to her art -- and how we navigated that transition together. I'm very proud to release this conversation. This is what it's all about. Enjoy.

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Links
Sienna's website for movement art
The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:54 Open ended start: what's your type and why is it true? "Going through the object"

7:10 8 connection to action

11:20 Fear of "deadness," Amping up the situation

15:11 Taking a minute; new direction: life story from college

20:13 Movement art; why apply to corporeal mime school?

21:44 Professor: "I miss having you cry in class."

23:33 Radical decision, moving for this program; "It's what the work needed," SX instinct

26:45 Program before/after, sense of ease, freedom

29:22 Why so passionate about movement art? "It's what my body wants to do"

31:23 Alive moments with the audience; being with the people that night -- my favorite thing

34:08 "What it is tonight"; "What's here right now?"

39:05 Enneagram boxiness vs aliveness -- exploring Siena as an *artist* reveals her 8 gifts; exploring Siena as an *8* lends to caricature

42:58 Being in the river; quality of stillness

43:55 What does it feel like when the search (for aliveness) isn't going well?

47:05 Legs

51:32 This moment feels really beautiful

56:42 Why do we forget to be present? 58:47 Picking fights -- what's it like? why does it happen?

1:05:47 Mystery of fighting -- sometimes useful, sometimes not; over- and under-expressing anger

1:08:24 "My body gets so hot inside so fast"; Hard to sit with the anger; 2 stories - retail, & guy with a dog

1:12:39 Inner work for 8; expanding window of tolerance for the heat, not being run by the reflex

1:18:21 Innocence of the 8

1:19:39 What was this like for you?

1:21:26 Birth story -- fighting for my life

1:25:14 When I feel received, I can receive

1:26:41 Final thoughts & thank yous

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]]>Siena Hassett [SX/SO 8w7 827] is a Theatre Maker, Movement Artist, and someone who really embodies the virtue of the 8 -- Innocence: the joyful unselfconscious expression of one's life-force, and the willingness to be affected by one's environment. Siena is so alive and engaging, and I couldn't help but be moved by her wide open presence in this conversation. I really appreciate how we moved from "caricaturing" her 8ness in the first 15 minutes to unveiling her real sensitivity and heart, especially as we explore her relationship to her art -- and how we navigated that transition together. I'm very proud to release this conversation. This is what it's all about. Enjoy.

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Links
Sienna's website for movement art
The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:54 Open ended start: what's your type and why is it true? "Going through the object"

7:10 8 connection to action

11:20 Fear of "deadness," Amping up the situation

15:11 Taking a minute; new direction: life story from college

20:13 Movement art; why apply to corporeal mime school?

21:44 Professor: "I miss having you cry in class."

23:33 Radical decision, moving for this program; "It's what the work needed," SX instinct

26:45 Program before/after, sense of ease, freedom

29:22 Why so passionate about movement art? "It's what my body wants to do"

31:23 Alive moments with the audience; being with the people that night -- my favorite thing

34:08 "What it is tonight"; "What's here right now?"

39:05 Enneagram boxiness vs aliveness -- exploring Siena as an *artist* reveals her 8 gifts; exploring Siena as an *8* lends to caricature

42:58 Being in the river; quality of stillness

43:55 What does it feel like when the search (for aliveness) isn't going well?

47:05 Legs

51:32 This moment feels really beautiful

56:42 Why do we forget to be present? 58:47 Picking fights -- what's it like? why does it happen?

1:05:47 Mystery of fighting -- sometimes useful, sometimes not; over- and under-expressing anger

1:08:24 "My body gets so hot inside so fast"; Hard to sit with the anger; 2 stories - retail, & guy with a dog

1:12:39 Inner work for 8; expanding window of tolerance for the heat, not being run by the reflex

1:18:21 Innocence of the 8

1:19:39 What was this like for you?

1:21:26 Birth story -- fighting for my life

1:25:14 When I feel received, I can receive

1:26:41 Final thoughts & thank yous

--

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]]>Kajabi-2148371291Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -050001:28:12falsefull#24: Alexandra (SO/SP 9w1 963) — Triple-Attachment Life, Choosing What's "Mine," & Discovering Friendship Intimacy#24: Alexandra (SO/SP 9w1 963) — Triple-Attachment Life, Choosing What's "Mine," & Discovering Friendship IntimacyAlexandra Arroyo-Acevedo [SO/SP 9w1 963(154)] is a brilliant Enneagram thinker with a very evocative and inspiring triple attachment life story. There’s no one I trust more to explain Attachment from the inside. Alexandra’s insights have been transformative for me, and for many in our community. Find her on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast, on YouTube doing Enneagram breakdowns of the Bachelorette, and on her website, where you can book a natal chart reading with her as well.

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Links
Alexandra's Website for Astrology & Enneagram
Alexandra's YouTube Channel for Bachelorette Enneagram Analysis
Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast

For Enneagram Students
The Enneagram School Home Page

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:49 Attachment Support Group Plug

6:03 What happened the first time we tried this interview

10:05 What's different now?

13:23 The importance of being witnessed in playful unself-conscious states

17:08 Prompt: Alexandra’s life story as an SO Bermuda 9

18:56 I was passively accepting, not "choosing" friends / romantic partners

20:42 "Who am I to say no?" - absence of red flags, not looking for green flags; unpacking the word “danger”

24:43 Ex-fiance was "safe"; passively accepted his proposal (!); Attachment: saying yes to the possibility that we could one day be on the same page

29:50 Social 9 -- Not revealing my full mind when others’ eyes gloss over; my inner self not a match for my environment, so I don't put it out there; why 9 needs to go to 3

35:22 Attachment victimhood self-deception: "You're not making space for me" vs I'm withholding myself

37:24 Prolonging relationship: "I was really good at dividing myself”

39:03 The "atomic bomb,” meeting John; Alexandra’s self-revival through online chats about Enneagram; going to New York “the first real action ever took for myself;” framing it to myself as "It's no big deal, if it doesn't work out, I'll just come back home" preemptive defense against being affected

46:20 Numbness prevents 9 from realizing how hungry their soul is; lifeforce has intelligence independent of personality re: what's nourishing / renewing for it

50:58 The lightning strike moment, radical (fast!) change, and the illusion that I've conquered attachment

57:01 How Attachment patterns crept back in

1:00:45 Being anchored to a new rung on the consciousness ladder; not wanting to abandon your new self-sense

1:02:48 Ambivalence toward astrology from being pinned as an "astrology person" -- private sacred interest now exposed to gaze that revs attachment/performance engine

1:08:55 The "practice" of unself-conscious play

1:10:28 Autonomy insistence of 9; making free choices without pressure; knowing that a choice is "mine," made by me

1:13:59 John's mirroring of me to myself, yet constantly re-attuning to what I'm excited by

1:19:05 Social intimacy, choosing and being chosen from your constituted center, grief about emotionally distant friendships, that pattern changing

1:27:41 Sweet Friendship moments

1:30:47 What's this been like? (& how long it took to get this interview, ha!; sign off)

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Coma-Media: Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo [SO/SP 9w1 963(154)] is a brilliant Enneagram thinker with a very evocative and inspiring triple attachment life story. There’s no one I trust more to explain Attachment from the inside. Alexandra’s insights have been transformative for me, and for many in our community. Find her on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast, on YouTube doing Enneagram breakdowns of the Bachelorette, and on her website, where you can book a natal chart reading with her as well.

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Links
Alexandra's Website for Astrology & Enneagram
Alexandra's YouTube Channel for Bachelorette Enneagram Analysis
Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast

For Enneagram Students
The Enneagram School Home Page

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:49 Attachment Support Group Plug

6:03 What happened the first time we tried this interview

10:05 What's different now?

13:23 The importance of being witnessed in playful unself-conscious states

17:08 Prompt: Alexandra’s life story as an SO Bermuda 9

18:56 I was passively accepting, not "choosing" friends / romantic partners

20:42 "Who am I to say no?" - absence of red flags, not looking for green flags; unpacking the word “danger”

24:43 Ex-fiance was "safe"; passively accepted his proposal (!); Attachment: saying yes to the possibility that we could one day be on the same page

29:50 Social 9 -- Not revealing my full mind when others’ eyes gloss over; my inner self not a match for my environment, so I don't put it out there; why 9 needs to go to 3

35:22 Attachment victimhood self-deception: "You're not making space for me" vs I'm withholding myself

37:24 Prolonging relationship: "I was really good at dividing myself”

39:03 The "atomic bomb,” meeting John; Alexandra’s self-revival through online chats about Enneagram; going to New York “the first real action ever took for myself;” framing it to myself as "It's no big deal, if it doesn't work out, I'll just come back home" preemptive defense against being affected

46:20 Numbness prevents 9 from realizing how hungry their soul is; lifeforce has intelligence independent of personality re: what's nourishing / renewing for it

50:58 The lightning strike moment, radical (fast!) change, and the illusion that I've conquered attachment

57:01 How Attachment patterns crept back in

1:00:45 Being anchored to a new rung on the consciousness ladder; not wanting to abandon your new self-sense

1:02:48 Ambivalence toward astrology from being pinned as an "astrology person" -- private sacred interest now exposed to gaze that revs attachment/performance engine

1:08:55 The "practice" of unself-conscious play

1:10:28 Autonomy insistence of 9; making free choices without pressure; knowing that a choice is "mine," made by me

1:13:59 John's mirroring of me to myself, yet constantly re-attuning to what I'm excited by

1:19:05 Social intimacy, choosing and being chosen from your constituted center, grief about emotionally distant friendships, that pattern changing

1:27:41 Sweet Friendship moments

1:30:47 What's this been like? (& how long it took to get this interview, ha!; sign off)

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]]>Kajabi-2148371292Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:00:00 -050001:36:41falsefull#23: Kristen Oberly (SO/SP 9w1 963) – Dreamwork, Depersonalization, and Coming (Back to) Life via the Unconscious [SO/SP 9w1 963]#23: Kristen Oberly (SO/SP 9w1 963) – Dreamwork, Depersonalization, and Coming (Back to) Life via the Unconscious [SO/SP 9w1 963]Kristen Oberly [SO/SP 9w1 963(172)] is an exceptionally gifted dream analyst, artist, and guide for the unconscious realm. We explore her misdiagnosis with paranoid schizophrenia, her bouts with depersonalization, and the way she has come back home to herself by following her fascination with the unconscious. A very interesting and particular case of Social Bermuda 9, but the core 9 themes are certainly here: numbness, dissociation, and coming back to life by following the natural flow of my life force.

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Kristen's Website for Art and Dream Analysis
Sinsomnia Podcast

The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

5:27 When two bermudas meet; You've made a spash; original contributions: dreams, trifix art -- SO tracking "how people earn respect in this group," getting typed

9:48 Lurking in groups; do you feel like one now? "in shock" that my contribution went anywhere

12:55 Interview anchor points: typing, misdiagnosis paranoid schizophrenia; depersonalization; living in "alternate dimension"

15:22 "She's in her own little world" growing up; hallucinations

19:40 What is paranoid schizophrenia?; relief in diagnosis, being located, "this is what I am," a thing to tell others

23:11 "Betrayal of all 3 centers"

26:10 Timeline of diagnosis & symptoms; what's depersonalization?

32:10 9-ness and depersonalization

35:35 What's helped?

37:30 Guinea pigs screaming -- a dream example that helped you come home to your body

42:31 Physical reality not affecting me, but unconscious dream world waking me up (literally)

45:02 Toggling on/off of existing; checking out

48:05 Genuine inspiration of dreams calling you back alive; Avatar Kristen, interfacing spirit world and physical reality

54:12 SO 9 - fear of making others uncomfortable?

58:38 Kristen's flow state; mastery & precision, poking the nerve, freedom from typology in her moments of interpreting dreams

1:04:52 Kristen's dark witchy vibe & "bite" contrasted with "harmonious" 9 vibe

1:10:16 Kristen's 9 Bermuda Swirl vs Josh's 3 version

1:15:48 Kristen's Art Bermuda Swirl, honing in on "archetypal" art

1:19:46 The Bermuda Swirl's Intelligence

1:26:37 What’s this been like?

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]]>Kristen Oberly [SO/SP 9w1 963(172)] is an exceptionally gifted dream analyst, artist, and guide for the unconscious realm. We explore her misdiagnosis with paranoid schizophrenia, her bouts with depersonalization, and the way she has come back home to herself by following her fascination with the unconscious. A very interesting and particular case of Social Bermuda 9, but the core 9 themes are certainly here: numbness, dissociation, and coming back to life by following the natural flow of my life force.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Kristen's Website for Art and Dream Analysis
Sinsomnia Podcast

The Enneagram School's Website

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

5:27 When two bermudas meet; You've made a spash; original contributions: dreams, trifix art -- SO tracking "how people earn respect in this group," getting typed

9:48 Lurking in groups; do you feel like one now? "in shock" that my contribution went anywhere

12:55 Interview anchor points: typing, misdiagnosis paranoid schizophrenia; depersonalization; living in "alternate dimension"

15:22 "She's in her own little world" growing up; hallucinations

19:40 What is paranoid schizophrenia?; relief in diagnosis, being located, "this is what I am," a thing to tell others

23:11 "Betrayal of all 3 centers"

26:10 Timeline of diagnosis & symptoms; what's depersonalization?

32:10 9-ness and depersonalization

35:35 What's helped?

37:30 Guinea pigs screaming -- a dream example that helped you come home to your body

42:31 Physical reality not affecting me, but unconscious dream world waking me up (literally)

45:02 Toggling on/off of existing; checking out

48:05 Genuine inspiration of dreams calling you back alive; Avatar Kristen, interfacing spirit world and physical reality

54:12 SO 9 - fear of making others uncomfortable?

58:38 Kristen's flow state; mastery & precision, poking the nerve, freedom from typology in her moments of interpreting dreams

1:04:52 Kristen's dark witchy vibe & "bite" contrasted with "harmonious" 9 vibe

1:10:16 Kristen's 9 Bermuda Swirl vs Josh's 3 version

1:15:48 Kristen's Art Bermuda Swirl, honing in on "archetypal" art

1:19:46 The Bermuda Swirl's Intelligence

1:26:37 What’s this been like?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371293Fri, 21 Jul 2023 19:00:00 -050001:28:37falsefull#22: Sarah Round 2 MetaConvo (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Attachment Games, Rupture & Repair Cycles, and Realtime Conversation Dynamics [SO/SP 9w1 937]#22: Sarah Round 2 MetaConvo (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Attachment Games, Rupture & Repair Cycles, and Realtime Conversation Dynamics [SO/SP 9w1 937]Round 2 with Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937]. A conversation ABOUT our last conversation, and a very personal look at both of our attachment games. I loved this.

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Sarah's Links
Sarah's Music 1
Sarah's Music 2
Sarah's Podcast
Sarah's Instagram

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:29 Setting up the convo -- why we're here

7:56 First clip

9:53 Sarah pauses. "Floating on the river of meaning" swirling & managing the swirls

15:36 Second clip

16:45 Josh pauses. The moment I almost interrupted, and Sarah feels it.

17:38 More clip

20:16 Sarah pauses. Sarah's SO/SP "preachiness," desire to embrace universal themes

23:27 Sarah: "I kept going because I wasn't sure if you agreed with me"

25:54 "It's all good babe just hold on!"

27:11 The need to have all parts of me known and held (9)

29:48 More clip -- The Shift moment 31:13 Josh pauses. His skepticism that Sarah was connected to herself

33:22 Sarah: the insecurity around being perceived as insincere; calling out 9 dispersion

34:59 SO 9 desperation for social holding; Schema: want social holding -- don't get it -- disperse & numb -- harder to feel if/when I get held now

40:58 You want holding from me, but also you're angry with me -- Attachment games

44:59 Sarah getting social holding back by playing into my frame, "impressing me"

48:54 More clip -- Sarah: "I felt like I was being called a phony"

50:18 More clip -- Josh's "unskillful question"

54:20 Josh takes a breath -- his attachment pattern alive right now

59:09 More clip: "I'm saying what I think you want me to say"

1:00:28 Sarah's desire for more bobble-headedness (familiar social holding); Josh's reflex to self-recrimination when I made someone angry, "what could I have done better?" -- that question being self-abandoning in service of re-attachment strategy!; Josh's version of sarah's "cozying up"

1:06:00 The last 3 min; "I feel like I passed your test"

1:09:27 Attachment 101: Rupture and Repair Cycles; Complexity around Sincerity

1:11:12 Final moments of the interview & the necessity of *this* conversation to complete the repair

1:15:51 What is trust?

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]]>Round 2 with Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937]. A conversation ABOUT our last conversation, and a very personal look at both of our attachment games. I loved this.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Sarah's Links
Sarah's Music 1
Sarah's Music 2
Sarah's Podcast
Sarah's Instagram

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:29 Setting up the convo -- why we're here

7:56 First clip

9:53 Sarah pauses. "Floating on the river of meaning" swirling & managing the swirls

15:36 Second clip

16:45 Josh pauses. The moment I almost interrupted, and Sarah feels it.

17:38 More clip

20:16 Sarah pauses. Sarah's SO/SP "preachiness," desire to embrace universal themes

23:27 Sarah: "I kept going because I wasn't sure if you agreed with me"

25:54 "It's all good babe just hold on!"

27:11 The need to have all parts of me known and held (9)

29:48 More clip -- The Shift moment 31:13 Josh pauses. His skepticism that Sarah was connected to herself

33:22 Sarah: the insecurity around being perceived as insincere; calling out 9 dispersion

34:59 SO 9 desperation for social holding; Schema: want social holding -- don't get it -- disperse & numb -- harder to feel if/when I get held now

40:58 You want holding from me, but also you're angry with me -- Attachment games

44:59 Sarah getting social holding back by playing into my frame, "impressing me"

48:54 More clip -- Sarah: "I felt like I was being called a phony"

50:18 More clip -- Josh's "unskillful question"

54:20 Josh takes a breath -- his attachment pattern alive right now

59:09 More clip: "I'm saying what I think you want me to say"

1:00:28 Sarah's desire for more bobble-headedness (familiar social holding); Josh's reflex to self-recrimination when I made someone angry, "what could I have done better?" -- that question being self-abandoning in service of re-attachment strategy!; Josh's version of sarah's "cozying up"

1:06:00 The last 3 min; "I feel like I passed your test"

1:09:27 Attachment 101: Rupture and Repair Cycles; Complexity around Sincerity

1:11:12 Final moments of the interview & the necessity of *this* conversation to complete the repair

1:15:51 What is trust?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371294Wed, 14 Jun 2023 14:00:00 -050001:18:49falsefull#21: Sarah (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Positive Outlook Spin, Blurring Fantasy & Reality (and Gaslighting), and Finding Your No [SO/SP 9w1 937]#21: Sarah (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Positive Outlook Spin, Blurring Fantasy & Reality (and Gaslighting), and Finding Your No [SO/SP 9w1 937]Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937] is getting her PhD in psychology en route to becoming a therapist. In this conversation, Sarah is quite open and courageous in sharing what it's like for her on the inside of her "swirly 9-7 stem" energy and speaking style and her positive outlook vibes. We also how she accidentally gaslights partners without knowing it, because of how she can blur inner fantasy with outer reality. (I love this part.) We also hit a really interesting conversational glitch that put both of our type patterns on display. We unpack this in a follow up conversation, so stay tuned for round 2.

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Sarah's Links
Sarah's Music 1
Sarah's Music 2
Sarah's Podcast
Sarah's Instagram

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

2:16 Getting typed, Sarah's typing journey

12:35 Positive outlook of Sarah's 9-7 stem; the facebook group's reaction to her "was an emotional event"

15:56 3 fix, wanting to be / be seen as competent, "let me join the cool kids," show people I can hang

20:02 Sarah's swirling inner cauldron of associations speaking style

22:22 One reason 9s identify as 4

23:23 Eating disorder, psychological function of controlling my attractiveness... but being labeled "sexual blind"; beauty standards more social than sexual

25:39 Why are you a 9 and not a 4? Attachment

29:14 Tone policing as SO 9w1 "asking" the environment to hold me better (socially)

30:24 Attachment to disconnect in long-term relationship; Fantasy & wanting/hoping others will show up differently

36:16 Anger as "no," finding your no

39:12 Positive Outlook "spin"; "People can't worry about me" -- I have to be okay; performative empathy/positivity "vs" sincere optimism

45:42 Unprocessed negativity comes out in close relationships (mom, partner); "I would save that all for them"; the Security Point

53:50 The fantasy image of a relationship, blurring fantasy and reality

57:17 Gaslighting & fantasy; the little girl hoping, "maybe maybe maybe," wishing reality will manifest my fantasy; "But it's always been this way" in my mind

1:03:20 The moment: How are you feeling right now? A disconnect -- a splash, a disruption of the social groove ... and the next few minutes, navigating this

1:05:34 I need others to be listening to me well, so I can be clear in my thinking

1:09:31 Saturated in presence vs dispersed

1:14:29 Power being grounded, concentrated, or "up" and dispersed; tapering

1:18:47 Sarah expressing anger at me! (yes!)

1:20:36 Tapering demo; attachment dynamic: building bridges to others' inner worlds, not trusting they'll want to come to mine

1:23:26 The pain of...]]>Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937] is getting her PhD in psychology en route to becoming a therapist. In this conversation, Sarah is quite open and courageous in sharing what it's like for her on the inside of her "swirly 9-7 stem" energy and speaking style and her positive outlook vibes. We also how she accidentally gaslights partners without knowing it, because of how she can blur inner fantasy with outer reality. (I love this part.) We also hit a really interesting conversational glitch that put both of our type patterns on display. We unpack this in a follow up conversation, so stay tuned for round 2.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Sarah's Links
Sarah's Music 1
Sarah's Music 2
Sarah's Podcast
Sarah's Instagram

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

2:16 Getting typed, Sarah's typing journey

12:35 Positive outlook of Sarah's 9-7 stem; the facebook group's reaction to her "was an emotional event"

15:56 3 fix, wanting to be / be seen as competent, "let me join the cool kids," show people I can hang

20:02 Sarah's swirling inner cauldron of associations speaking style

22:22 One reason 9s identify as 4

23:23 Eating disorder, psychological function of controlling my attractiveness... but being labeled "sexual blind"; beauty standards more social than sexual

25:39 Why are you a 9 and not a 4? Attachment

29:14 Tone policing as SO 9w1 "asking" the environment to hold me better (socially)

30:24 Attachment to disconnect in long-term relationship; Fantasy & wanting/hoping others will show up differently

36:16 Anger as "no," finding your no

39:12 Positive Outlook "spin"; "People can't worry about me" -- I have to be okay; performative empathy/positivity "vs" sincere optimism

45:42 Unprocessed negativity comes out in close relationships (mom, partner); "I would save that all for them"; the Security Point

53:50 The fantasy image of a relationship, blurring fantasy and reality

57:17 Gaslighting & fantasy; the little girl hoping, "maybe maybe maybe," wishing reality will manifest my fantasy; "But it's always been this way" in my mind

1:03:20 The moment: How are you feeling right now? A disconnect -- a splash, a disruption of the social groove ... and the next few minutes, navigating this

1:05:34 I need others to be listening to me well, so I can be clear in my thinking

1:09:31 Saturated in presence vs dispersed

1:14:29 Power being grounded, concentrated, or "up" and dispersed; tapering

1:18:47 Sarah expressing anger at me! (yes!)

1:20:36 Tapering demo; attachment dynamic: building bridges to others' inner worlds, not trusting they'll want to come to mine

1:23:26 The pain of separating, having melded into this conversation. A mini grief.

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]]>Kajabi-2148371295Wed, 07 Jun 2023 14:00:00 -050001:27:45falsefull#20: Emily (SO/SP 8w9 836) — Enneagram Skepticism, Social Power Dynamics, Untouchable Independence, Sensitivity#20: Emily (SO/SP 8w9 836) — Enneagram Skepticism, Social Power Dynamics, Untouchable Independence, SensitivityEmily [SO/SP 8w9 836] is a beautiful example of a heart-forward 8 who has done significant inner work and values her sensitivity. We get into what it means to be in a social "power position," why that's important for her, and what it means to value her vulnerability, among other things. Really good, high resolution introspection. Emily graduated from Yale undergrad and Oxford business school. She also rowed on the Irish national team. She currently works in a purpose-driven startup bringing smoother money transfer services to Africa and beyond.

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Links
The Enneagram School Website

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

0:43 Setting up the convo

3:49 Enneagram origin story; mistyping as 7; skepticism about Enneagram

10:27 8 Basic Fear & Desire, feeling "uncomfortably seen"

11:51 Leaning on being sought after socially; & the self-protection of being in a "power up posiiton"

15:21 the fear of being at the mercy of someone else's control; coming back to self-trust

16:51 Being protective of others; feeling "compelled" into action; "Rallying of every atom in my being"

19:34 Developing discernment, “letting go" when activated, what makes that hard

21:59 Feeling supported when others give their "truly honest opinion"; doing this for others

25:59 Picnic story - calling out a misogynistic joke

30:14 margaritas and bicycle story - "My independence is untouchable by you"

36:03 The appeal of doing a startup; Being alive through "Exerting your creative life force into the world through the lens of business"

41:19 need to feel like i'm on the edge of win or lose

42:04 solo training for a marathon, ice baths, pushing body to limits

43:28 Tough leadership lessons in sports and business

48:21 "I'm a sensitive person," friendship and vulnerability; my vulnerability is valuable

53:15 Why did you say yes to this?

55:16 Plugs!

56:10 Outro

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]]>Emily [SO/SP 8w9 836] is a beautiful example of a heart-forward 8 who has done significant inner work and values her sensitivity. We get into what it means to be in a social "power position," why that's important for her, and what it means to value her vulnerability, among other things. Really good, high resolution introspection. Emily graduated from Yale undergrad and Oxford business school. She also rowed on the Irish national team. She currently works in a purpose-driven startup bringing smoother money transfer services to Africa and beyond.

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Links
The Enneagram School Website

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

0:43 Setting up the convo

3:49 Enneagram origin story; mistyping as 7; skepticism about Enneagram

10:27 8 Basic Fear & Desire, feeling "uncomfortably seen"

11:51 Leaning on being sought after socially; & the self-protection of being in a "power up posiiton"

15:21 the fear of being at the mercy of someone else's control; coming back to self-trust

16:51 Being protective of others; feeling "compelled" into action; "Rallying of every atom in my being"

19:34 Developing discernment, “letting go" when activated, what makes that hard

21:59 Feeling supported when others give their "truly honest opinion"; doing this for others

25:59 Picnic story - calling out a misogynistic joke

30:14 margaritas and bicycle story - "My independence is untouchable by you"

36:03 The appeal of doing a startup; Being alive through "Exerting your creative life force into the world through the lens of business"

41:19 need to feel like i'm on the edge of win or lose

42:04 solo training for a marathon, ice baths, pushing body to limits

43:28 Tough leadership lessons in sports and business

48:21 "I'm a sensitive person," friendship and vulnerability; my vulnerability is valuable

53:15 Why did you say yes to this?

55:16 Plugs!

56:10 Outro

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]]>Kajabi-2148371296Thu, 11 May 2023 19:00:00 -050056:32falsefull#19: Czan (SO/SP 9w1 953) – Twice an Immigrant, Toggling "Existing" On/Off, & Owl Medicine#19: Czan (SO/SP 9w1 953) – Twice an Immigrant, Toggling "Existing" On/Off, & Owl MedicineCzan [SO/SP 9w1 953] is a software engineer for a gaming company and currently lives in the US. He's an original Enneagram thinker, and "Attachment to Disconnect" is his profound insight into how Attachment types create situations to continue reaching for connection, rather than stably connecting. Czan has experience with various inner work modalities and has excellent insights about being an Enneagram 9. I'll add that I experienced his 5 fix vividly in this conversation, which you'll see in the way Czan maintains intellectual separateness.

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 Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

2:32 Enneagram Origin Story

5:14 Twice an immigrant; adapting to new cultures; 5 fix figuring it out by myself; trauma from this pattern -- no one here like me; "The resolution needs to come in community"; Immigrant as metaphor for attachment

11:34 What grabbed you about the Enneagram? Mistyping as 5; Wanting to talk about the Enneagram without talking about the Enneagram

14:51 NOT an Ennea-vangelist; refuting Josh's suggestion that finding universal language is an attachment dynamic

17:10 Attachment vs Social & desire for belonging? Czan's idea: "The Existential Object" for 4, 5, & 9

20:30 Czan's loud 5-fix, not absorbing others' orientation; couldn't be an academic bc need to converse with other scholars

23:56 So why are you a 9, not a 5?; Czan's theory, 9's seeking "existence" in the world, 5's not

28:10 Toggling on and off; "when I'm observing, nothing's going on inside"

30:18 Dissociating -- when things "start to get muffled"; "Existing" or not existing in relationship

36:03 Merging with others, taking on their discomfort; Best thing I could do for my parents as a kid was "be okay" and not need a lot

37:54 Taking on mom's (& others') emotional burden; I'm helping them carry their heavy luggage, not realizing I have a limit to my emotional capacity

39:14 Internal Family Systems (IFS) & Psychedelics

42:01 The metaconversation (!); paradox 9 relational merging & 5 intellectual independence; Czan's 5 fix "vs" Josh's 6 fix 49:24 Josh's object relations theory & the body center

55:44 Ayahuasca and Owl Medicine; not opening to overwhelm or closing myself off, but preening and holding myself as I move through the world

1:00:26 Reflections; 9's virtue of engagement; taking responsibility for washing myself, so I can stay open to be affected by things, to live

1:03:42 Not wasting anger, taking care of "the mud in me," and "using it to grow lotus flowers"; creativity, passion

1:10:16 Attachment to Disconnect

1:13:57 Fitness, getting into my body, trying to "live" the Enneagram and not just cerebralize it

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]]>Czan [SO/SP 9w1 953] is a software engineer for a gaming company and currently lives in the US. He's an original Enneagram thinker, and "Attachment to Disconnect" is his profound insight into how Attachment types create situations to continue reaching for connection, rather than stably connecting. Czan has experience with various inner work modalities and has excellent insights about being an Enneagram 9. I'll add that I experienced his 5 fix vividly in this conversation, which you'll see in the way Czan maintains intellectual separateness.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

 Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

2:32 Enneagram Origin Story

5:14 Twice an immigrant; adapting to new cultures; 5 fix figuring it out by myself; trauma from this pattern -- no one here like me; "The resolution needs to come in community"; Immigrant as metaphor for attachment

11:34 What grabbed you about the Enneagram? Mistyping as 5; Wanting to talk about the Enneagram without talking about the Enneagram

14:51 NOT an Ennea-vangelist; refuting Josh's suggestion that finding universal language is an attachment dynamic

17:10 Attachment vs Social & desire for belonging? Czan's idea: "The Existential Object" for 4, 5, & 9

20:30 Czan's loud 5-fix, not absorbing others' orientation; couldn't be an academic bc need to converse with other scholars

23:56 So why are you a 9, not a 5?; Czan's theory, 9's seeking "existence" in the world, 5's not

28:10 Toggling on and off; "when I'm observing, nothing's going on inside"

30:18 Dissociating -- when things "start to get muffled"; "Existing" or not existing in relationship

36:03 Merging with others, taking on their discomfort; Best thing I could do for my parents as a kid was "be okay" and not need a lot

37:54 Taking on mom's (& others') emotional burden; I'm helping them carry their heavy luggage, not realizing I have a limit to my emotional capacity

39:14 Internal Family Systems (IFS) & Psychedelics

42:01 The metaconversation (!); paradox 9 relational merging & 5 intellectual independence; Czan's 5 fix "vs" Josh's 6 fix 49:24 Josh's object relations theory & the body center

55:44 Ayahuasca and Owl Medicine; not opening to overwhelm or closing myself off, but preening and holding myself as I move through the world

1:00:26 Reflections; 9's virtue of engagement; taking responsibility for washing myself, so I can stay open to be affected by things, to live

1:03:42 Not wasting anger, taking care of "the mud in me," and "using it to grow lotus flowers"; creativity, passion

1:10:16 Attachment to Disconnect

1:13:57 Fitness, getting into my body, trying to "live" the Enneagram and not just cerebralize it

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]]>Kajabi-2148371297Fri, 28 Apr 2023 14:00:00 -050001:15:43falsefull#18: Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) — Being Good at Things, Identity Experiments, and Choosing to Live#18: Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) — Being Good at Things, Identity Experiments, and Choosing to LiveTRIGGER WARNING: sensitive content. Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) is a co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast and is currently navigating graduate school in genetics. In this extremely candid interview, we talk about Nancy's childhood, wrestling with severe depression and mental health issues (possibly undiagnosed autism, according to her), her self-discovery through competence in knife salesmanship and sugaring, and the road trip that cemented her choice to live. Enjoy!

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The Enneagram School's Website 

 

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro 

3:51 Interview Start -- Childhood depression, mental health, and the road trip that changed everything 

7:18 Putting on a show" for my therapist at 15 yrs old; fooling the therapist 

14:18 The Road Trip & 3-ness - poetic, redemptive, rejuvenating; being by yourself, outside others' expectations 

16:44 When the fog began to lift, and I began to "choose to be here" 

19:18 Selling cutting knives and going "full 3", then getting sick & having to quit 

22:54 New desk job at gun store 

24:42 Selling knives giving Nancy a chance to feel good at something; contrasting Josh's 3 story with Nancy's; Nancy's mental health condition delaying her 3-ness 

27:27 Quitting selling knives -- framed as an act of self-care, rebellion against sexist workplace, "I wanna do something I wanna do." 

32:47 Sugaring and 3-ness; being good at making old white men like me & pay me; becoming another person for 4 hours, then going home -- in an empowering way 

39:12 The joy of "identity experiments"; self-discovery in sugaring 

43:45 On how important it is for 3s to feel good at something 

46:48 Grief on the road trip; SP looking for home, leading back to yourself; 3s need to find themselves alone in their silence 

50:56 Discovering authentic self through performative relationship; following your nose about what I'm good at 

55:38 Josh's bermuda questions 

58:14 Choosing life path after the road trip? discovering I want to go to school, despite "I don't need school!" 3 persona/image.

1:03:34 Reconstituting identity to "fit this in" -- wanting to go to school 

1:05:23 Practicals of going back to school; discovering I love science, want to study genetics 

1:10:52 Living from "I like this!" instead of "I'm good at this" now 

1:13:05 Now back in Virginia; "Fix first, then mourn"  

1:14:53 What's this been like for you?  

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]]>TRIGGER WARNING: sensitive content. Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) is a co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast and is currently navigating graduate school in genetics. In this extremely candid interview, we talk about Nancy's childhood, wrestling with severe depression and mental health issues (possibly undiagnosed autism, according to her), her self-discovery through competence in knife salesmanship and sugaring, and the road trip that cemented her choice to live. Enjoy!

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

The Enneagram School's Website 

 

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro 

3:51 Interview Start -- Childhood depression, mental health, and the road trip that changed everything 

7:18 Putting on a show" for my therapist at 15 yrs old; fooling the therapist 

14:18 The Road Trip & 3-ness - poetic, redemptive, rejuvenating; being by yourself, outside others' expectations 

16:44 When the fog began to lift, and I began to "choose to be here" 

19:18 Selling cutting knives and going "full 3", then getting sick & having to quit 

22:54 New desk job at gun store 

24:42 Selling knives giving Nancy a chance to feel good at something; contrasting Josh's 3 story with Nancy's; Nancy's mental health condition delaying her 3-ness 

27:27 Quitting selling knives -- framed as an act of self-care, rebellion against sexist workplace, "I wanna do something I wanna do." 

32:47 Sugaring and 3-ness; being good at making old white men like me & pay me; becoming another person for 4 hours, then going home -- in an empowering way 

39:12 The joy of "identity experiments"; self-discovery in sugaring 

43:45 On how important it is for 3s to feel good at something 

46:48 Grief on the road trip; SP looking for home, leading back to yourself; 3s need to find themselves alone in their silence 

50:56 Discovering authentic self through performative relationship; following your nose about what I'm good at 

55:38 Josh's bermuda questions 

58:14 Choosing life path after the road trip? discovering I want to go to school, despite "I don't need school!" 3 persona/image.

1:03:34 Reconstituting identity to "fit this in" -- wanting to go to school 

1:05:23 Practicals of going back to school; discovering I love science, want to study genetics 

1:10:52 Living from "I like this!" instead of "I'm good at this" now 

1:13:05 Now back in Virginia; "Fix first, then mourn"  

1:14:53 What's this been like for you?  

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]]>Kajabi-2148371298Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:00:00 -050001:16:26truefull#17: Charles (SO/SP 9w8 963) — Resensitizing After 20 Numb Years, the Goldilocks Zone, Being “Cool” Not Meticulous#17: Charles (SO/SP 9w8 963) — Resensitizing After 20 Numb Years, the Goldilocks Zone, Being “Cool” Not MeticulousCharles is a 42 year old father of four that's been married for more than half his life. He’s started multiple businesses and currently runs a small internet marketing and web agency. He self-describes as a “body type that speaks from the gut while trying to make social connections.”

In this interview, we explore what his 8 “rejection” wing does to his core 9 attachment, his meandering, relaxed conversational style, and what it was like to realize that he’s been operating on autopilot for over 20 years. (!!) We also explore his striking tattoos, the enlivening physicality of getting them, and the way they help him declare his location amidst the murky, triple attachment 9-land. An honest and open glimpse into the inner world of a 9w8.

Note: there was an internet issue during recording, so Charles accidentally spoke over me a few times that I tried to ask a question. He wanted to note that he's not that obtuse :) -- he just couldn't hear.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

0:41 Plugs: Enneagram School & Expression Library

1:50 Intro to Charles; SO/SP 9w8 963

3:27 Interview Start

5:15 Charles' recent "resensitization" transformation; not crying for 20 years; autopilot

10:28 Josh's question and Charles' "off-road" response

12:33 Coming back to life; what's happened recently, resensitization; from numb to being flooded with emotions, randomly

17:29 Decades of putting myself aside, fulfilling "roles," being in the groove; setting up projections onto other people, resentments about pressure

22:59 The numb state; not noticing butterflies in my stomach; "shutting off"

27:39 What would other people notice if you're numb?

28:29 Feelings being too much for me; even good feelings; seeking the goldilocks state

32:09 Comparing 8, 9, 1's relationship to numbing

33:31 Tattoo's! -- locating myself & my positions, socially abrasive to my conservative neighborhood

39:03 The physical nature of getting tattoos; sensory awakening, un-numbing, bringing me back to life; some pain as "good" feeling

41:58 Using sense of smell more

43:37 Relationship with anger

48:19 Exploring the volume of Charles' voice

49:49 The meandering conversational style; outer swirling mimics inner swirling

54:17 Are you motivated to be more "focused" in your speaking?

58:44 A la David Gray: 8 wing giving 9 permission to be as 9 as it wants to be

1:02:56 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Charles is a 42 year old father of four that's been married for more than half his life. He’s started multiple businesses and currently runs a small internet marketing and web agency. He self-describes as a “body type that speaks from the gut while trying to make social connections.”

In this interview, we explore what his 8 “rejection” wing does to his core 9 attachment, his meandering, relaxed conversational style, and what it was like to realize that he’s been operating on autopilot for over 20 years. (!!) We also explore his striking tattoos, the enlivening physicality of getting them, and the way they help him declare his location amidst the murky, triple attachment 9-land. An honest and open glimpse into the inner world of a 9w8.

Note: there was an internet issue during recording, so Charles accidentally spoke over me a few times that I tried to ask a question. He wanted to note that he's not that obtuse :) -- he just couldn't hear.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE
The Enneagram School Website

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

0:41 Plugs: Enneagram School & Expression Library

1:50 Intro to Charles; SO/SP 9w8 963

3:27 Interview Start

5:15 Charles' recent "resensitization" transformation; not crying for 20 years; autopilot

10:28 Josh's question and Charles' "off-road" response

12:33 Coming back to life; what's happened recently, resensitization; from numb to being flooded with emotions, randomly

17:29 Decades of putting myself aside, fulfilling "roles," being in the groove; setting up projections onto other people, resentments about pressure

22:59 The numb state; not noticing butterflies in my stomach; "shutting off"

27:39 What would other people notice if you're numb?

28:29 Feelings being too much for me; even good feelings; seeking the goldilocks state

32:09 Comparing 8, 9, 1's relationship to numbing

33:31 Tattoo's! -- locating myself & my positions, socially abrasive to my conservative neighborhood

39:03 The physical nature of getting tattoos; sensory awakening, un-numbing, bringing me back to life; some pain as "good" feeling

41:58 Using sense of smell more

43:37 Relationship with anger

48:19 Exploring the volume of Charles' voice

49:49 The meandering conversational style; outer swirling mimics inner swirling

54:17 Are you motivated to be more "focused" in your speaking?

58:44 A la David Gray: 8 wing giving 9 permission to be as 9 as it wants to be

1:02:56 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371299Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:00:00 -050001:05:44falsefull#16: Kier (SO/SP 3w2 358) — Hiddenness and Secrecy, Avoiding Introspection Through Constant Activity, and Not Giving Up on the Heart#16: Kier (SO/SP 3w2 358) — Hiddenness and Secrecy, Avoiding Introspection Through Constant Activity, and Not Giving Up on the HeartKier  [SO/SP 3w2 358(267)] is a trial lawyer, dad, and frequent commenter on Enneagram discussion boards like the Enneagrammer Universe Facebook group. This is our second conversation — we didn’t publish the first one for reasons we explore in the interview. This is a really special conversation that captures a 3 (and 3w2, 358 trifix no less) freshly embarking on the journey of interior excavation, exploring his sensitivity, and asking questions like, “Why the secrecy?” “What am I really afraid of?” Really, really good stuff.

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The Enneagram School Website

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:30 Plugs: The Enneagram School & Enneagram Expressions Library
3:21 Intro to Kier
5:02 Interview Start
8:50 The email exchange btwn me and Kier; his desire to prepare, then softening towards having a more "spontaneously authentic" conversation
11:40 Difficulty with spontaneous authenticity; "I don't spend much time processing my internal state"; avoidance through activity
14:54 Mistyping as 8 & "Coming out as a 3"; Kier's childhood, family history of depression, a major car crash
19:16 Needing to be the strong one very young; didn't have a chance to be a vulnerable little kid; trained myself not to need what I wasn't getting
25:26 This being fresh / new territory for Kier; lots to excavate; my life set up to PREVENT excavation
30:08 ”Coming out as a 3" -- Kier's email; "I feel like a cat that's used up 7 lives already." "I'm just a bleeding heart type, I hope nobody notices”
32:42 What was it like to been seen through, and what's the nature of your sensitivity?; Sensitivity to being surprised, resistance to spontaneity... (image commentary here?)
38:22 Kier’s softening over our email exchange; the importance for Kier of Josh letting Kier's concerns be okay
41:00 Hiddenness, secrecy, paranoia; ”The heart can be so easily denied"; "People can always thwart a 3's objective by refusing to give admiration”
46:20 Cultural dynamics regarding the Heart
51:44 3 as heart blind heart type being “part of the problem”
55:20 workaholism, being "human doing"
59:39 what would surface if you slowed down? are you motivated to keep digging?
1:03:50 Kier’s "I'm not giving up speech" (see end)
1:08:37 The yolk
1:10:44 how are you feeling now?
1:13:55 More on conversational dynamics from last time
1:18:31 Thanks for pulling back the hood; we've done our job because it's uncomfortable
1:19:59 Kier’s Oscar Winning "I'm Not Giving Up" Speech

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]]>Kier  [SO/SP 3w2 358(267)] is a trial lawyer, dad, and frequent commenter on Enneagram discussion boards like the Enneagrammer Universe Facebook group. This is our second conversation — we didn’t publish the first one for reasons we explore in the interview. This is a really special conversation that captures a 3 (and 3w2, 358 trifix no less) freshly embarking on the journey of interior excavation, exploring his sensitivity, and asking questions like, “Why the secrecy?” “What am I really afraid of?” Really, really good stuff.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE
The Enneagram School Website

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:30 Plugs: The Enneagram School & Enneagram Expressions Library
3:21 Intro to Kier
5:02 Interview Start
8:50 The email exchange btwn me and Kier; his desire to prepare, then softening towards having a more "spontaneously authentic" conversation
11:40 Difficulty with spontaneous authenticity; "I don't spend much time processing my internal state"; avoidance through activity
14:54 Mistyping as 8 & "Coming out as a 3"; Kier's childhood, family history of depression, a major car crash
19:16 Needing to be the strong one very young; didn't have a chance to be a vulnerable little kid; trained myself not to need what I wasn't getting
25:26 This being fresh / new territory for Kier; lots to excavate; my life set up to PREVENT excavation
30:08 ”Coming out as a 3" -- Kier's email; "I feel like a cat that's used up 7 lives already." "I'm just a bleeding heart type, I hope nobody notices”
32:42 What was it like to been seen through, and what's the nature of your sensitivity?; Sensitivity to being surprised, resistance to spontaneity... (image commentary here?)
38:22 Kier’s softening over our email exchange; the importance for Kier of Josh letting Kier's concerns be okay
41:00 Hiddenness, secrecy, paranoia; ”The heart can be so easily denied"; "People can always thwart a 3's objective by refusing to give admiration”
46:20 Cultural dynamics regarding the Heart
51:44 3 as heart blind heart type being “part of the problem”
55:20 workaholism, being "human doing"
59:39 what would surface if you slowed down? are you motivated to keep digging?
1:03:50 Kier’s "I'm not giving up speech" (see end)
1:08:37 The yolk
1:10:44 how are you feeling now?
1:13:55 More on conversational dynamics from last time
1:18:31 Thanks for pulling back the hood; we've done our job because it's uncomfortable
1:19:59 Kier’s Oscar Winning "I'm Not Giving Up" Speech

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]]>Kajabi-2148371300Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:00:00 -050001:27:14falsefull#15: Emma Scott (SO/SP 6w7 612) — Resentful Accommodation, Making Things a Bigger Problem Than They Need To Be, and Getting Present in the Mental Center#15: Emma Scott (SO/SP 6w7 612) — Resentful Accommodation, Making Things a Bigger Problem Than They Need To Be, and Getting Present in the Mental CenterEmma is an Enneagram coach and mom, and she has her own podcast called There Are No Tangents. In this conversation, you get to see Emma model presence in the mental center as she incorporates a new insight about herself with rather amazing openness. Her self-owns about accommodating people resentfully and "throwing a stink" are charming and helpful distinctions regarding 6s duality of being both an Attachment and a Reactive Type. A pleasure of an interview. Enjoy.

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Links
Emma's Coaching Website
Emma's podcast
Emma's instagram: @theenneagramconnection

The Enneagram School Homepage
Class on the Centers

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

0:34 The Enneagram School is live! First class Jan 19

1:57 Intro to Emma

4:47 Interview start; her hours leading up to the interview, SO 6 strategy of stating "I'm nervous" to give yourself slack / wiggle room from self-imposed standards

8:19 enneagram origin story

12:25 Niklas's 2 Interview revealing her 2 fix

15:17 1 fix vs 9 fix; talking with my hands; 6 verbal style, 1 precision motions

20:15 People Pleasing -- an amazing journey on this word; going along with other but making a stink about it

29:03 "Maybe we've realized I'm not a people pleaser after all"; therapist authority said so -- how I came to believe it in the first place

31:43 "Resentful accommodation" - 6 self-image of adapting to others, not realizing how much space I'm taking up with my stink-throwing

36:25 6 not "swallowing truth whole" from authorities -- finding evidence, making it fit, etc

41:11 Planning, preparing; "Making everything is a bigger problem than it needs to be."

46:45 6ness as "Problem solving" -- what it means for something to be a problem

51:53 Amplification of the problem depends on my "state"

55:02 Anxiety as a "baseline heigtening of the nervous system"; alertness

1:00:46 Settling mental activity to be present with my kids

1:03:40 being present with your kids from each of the centers

1:09:05 what's this been like for you?

 

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]]>Emma is an Enneagram coach and mom, and she has her own podcast called There Are No Tangents. In this conversation, you get to see Emma model presence in the mental center as she incorporates a new insight about herself with rather amazing openness. Her self-owns about accommodating people resentfully and "throwing a stink" are charming and helpful distinctions regarding 6s duality of being both an Attachment and a Reactive Type. A pleasure of an interview. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Links
Emma's Coaching Website
Emma's podcast
Emma's instagram: @theenneagramconnection

The Enneagram School Homepage
Class on the Centers

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

0:34 The Enneagram School is live! First class Jan 19

1:57 Intro to Emma

4:47 Interview start; her hours leading up to the interview, SO 6 strategy of stating "I'm nervous" to give yourself slack / wiggle room from self-imposed standards

8:19 enneagram origin story

12:25 Niklas's 2 Interview revealing her 2 fix

15:17 1 fix vs 9 fix; talking with my hands; 6 verbal style, 1 precision motions

20:15 People Pleasing -- an amazing journey on this word; going along with other but making a stink about it

29:03 "Maybe we've realized I'm not a people pleaser after all"; therapist authority said so -- how I came to believe it in the first place

31:43 "Resentful accommodation" - 6 self-image of adapting to others, not realizing how much space I'm taking up with my stink-throwing

36:25 6 not "swallowing truth whole" from authorities -- finding evidence, making it fit, etc

41:11 Planning, preparing; "Making everything is a bigger problem than it needs to be."

46:45 6ness as "Problem solving" -- what it means for something to be a problem

51:53 Amplification of the problem depends on my "state"

55:02 Anxiety as a "baseline heigtening of the nervous system"; alertness

1:00:46 Settling mental activity to be present with my kids

1:03:40 being present with your kids from each of the centers

1:09:05 what's this been like for you?

 

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]]>Kajabi-2148371301Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:00:00 -050001:11:14falsefull#14: Jamie Eichar (SP/SO 9w1 963) — Being a Comforting Presence, Making Space For Yourself in Conversations, Rebelling Against Pressure#14: Jamie Eichar (SP/SO 9w1 963) — Being a Comforting Presence, Making Space For Yourself in Conversations, Rebelling Against PressureJamie (SP/SO 9w1 963) is an gifted cinematographer, an aspiring therapist, and a good friend that I met in my first Enneagram class. He has committed to his inner work in extremely courageous ways and has great language for the inner experience of 9-ness, especially what it's like to "numb out," to drift into invisibility, and to speak up for himself in relationships. This is a great, user friendly introduction to 9ness. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE
Jamie's Website
The Enneagram School

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:52 Easing into the interview

4:19 Enneagram origin story; the comfort of discovering my type; "felt like a blanket"

8:42 Feeling left behind wanting to be noticed, “nobody special”

11:54 "why aren't people asking me questions?" -- being in this interview now. "I'm talking a lot right now"; wanting attention and being terrified of it

14:28 Anger & “It’d be nice if people asked me questions.”

21:21 Being a nice guy, being a comforting presence, someone you trust; my “power” as a 9, when people feel like they can talk to me

25:34 People open up to me, but sometimes steamroll me; My trouble knowing what I have to say

29:35 the difficulty of Interrupting people; Conversational dynamics with 9s; 9s discovering their preferences by waiting

33:48 Speaking up; Taking responsibility to make the conversation safe for me

38:14 What fitness does for Jamie, 9s in the body center, susceptible to numbness, forgetting about the body, then “feeling” anger more

40:52 Numbness, avoiding problems, “forgetting I exist,” “I become the ipad”; YouTube Rabbit Holes; the rhythm of cycling through apps

47:09 Rebelling against "What I need to do"; sensitivity to pressure; difficulty of getting started

52:21 What gets you going?; hitting plateaus; creative inspiration

56:52 Empathy “out of my control” - merging, “getting caught up” in other’s emotions and what it means to have emotional boundaries; the complicated “niceness” of getting lost in an experience

1:02:03 On Commitment to practices, etc

1:04:43 Blending in vs standing out; "What's it like to own your coolness?"

1:08:22 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Jamie (SP/SO 9w1 963) is an gifted cinematographer, an aspiring therapist, and a good friend that I met in my first Enneagram class. He has committed to his inner work in extremely courageous ways and has great language for the inner experience of 9-ness, especially what it's like to "numb out," to drift into invisibility, and to speak up for himself in relationships. This is a great, user friendly introduction to 9ness. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE
Jamie's Website
The Enneagram School

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:52 Easing into the interview

4:19 Enneagram origin story; the comfort of discovering my type; "felt like a blanket"

8:42 Feeling left behind wanting to be noticed, “nobody special”

11:54 "why aren't people asking me questions?" -- being in this interview now. "I'm talking a lot right now"; wanting attention and being terrified of it

14:28 Anger & “It’d be nice if people asked me questions.”

21:21 Being a nice guy, being a comforting presence, someone you trust; my “power” as a 9, when people feel like they can talk to me

25:34 People open up to me, but sometimes steamroll me; My trouble knowing what I have to say

29:35 the difficulty of Interrupting people; Conversational dynamics with 9s; 9s discovering their preferences by waiting

33:48 Speaking up; Taking responsibility to make the conversation safe for me

38:14 What fitness does for Jamie, 9s in the body center, susceptible to numbness, forgetting about the body, then “feeling” anger more

40:52 Numbness, avoiding problems, “forgetting I exist,” “I become the ipad”; YouTube Rabbit Holes; the rhythm of cycling through apps

47:09 Rebelling against "What I need to do"; sensitivity to pressure; difficulty of getting started

52:21 What gets you going?; hitting plateaus; creative inspiration

56:52 Empathy “out of my control” - merging, “getting caught up” in other’s emotions and what it means to have emotional boundaries; the complicated “niceness” of getting lost in an experience

1:02:03 On Commitment to practices, etc

1:04:43 Blending in vs standing out; "What's it like to own your coolness?"

1:08:22 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371302Tue, 29 Nov 2022 15:00:00 -050001:10:21falsefull#13: Kaisa Jauhiainen (SX/SO 9w8 935) — Hooked or Catatonic, Erotic Releases of Anger, Seeking Essential Harmony through the SX Instinct#13: Kaisa Jauhiainen (SX/SO 9w8 935) — Hooked or Catatonic, Erotic Releases of Anger, Seeking Essential Harmony through the SX InstinctUPDATE: Kaisa's Heart Fix has been updated from 3w4 to 3w2.

Kaisa is a psychology and neuroscience graduate student and Enneagram enthusiast with an exceptional ability to articulate her experience of being a Sexual 9w8. Enjoy.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:56 Kaisa's typing

5:10 Flatline (935) vs triple reactive (846) overlay, 9 core withdrawn vs 8 wing assertive + sexual dom need to broadcast self

9:53 SX 9 being hooked by something or catatonic

13:31 "When there's no juice, I go catatonic;" Using sharp objects to keep myself awake at school; Kaisa's flatline delivery of severe subjects

19:11 Head last energy

21:26 How are you feeling right now? (Regrounding, getting back to we-space)

24:33 Body vs head types processing in real-time

26:11 Difficult to rev my own engine, but it gets revved by SX things (SX 9 receptivity)

29:37 SX + double competence; collecting SX resources; eating so I smell good, sensitivity to smells

35:20 SX competency story -- collecting data; fulfilling SP blind needs via SX dom motivations 

42:33 Out of body vs in body experience; re-inhabiting my body -- the 9 growth journey

45:29 Exploring SP blind; not recognizing mortality in our body

49:12 "Assertive" SX pursuit of crush with double withdrawn energy; & the SX/SO targeted magnetism dance

50:50 the urgency of SX dom

54:17 Boundaries & experiencing my distinctness

1:00:28 SX/SO "blurry friendships," different from Social

1:01:57 SX ecstasy, loss of self, now I can die in peace; Seeking "Essential Harmony" through SX

1:12:21 Renewing SX chemistry in stable relationships

1:16:48 Sexual chess; Advice for SX blinds

1:21:34 Closing, final reflections

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]]>UPDATE: Kaisa's Heart Fix has been updated from 3w4 to 3w2.

Kaisa is a psychology and neuroscience graduate student and Enneagram enthusiast with an exceptional ability to articulate her experience of being a Sexual 9w8. Enjoy.

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The Enneagram School

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:56 Kaisa's typing

5:10 Flatline (935) vs triple reactive (846) overlay, 9 core withdrawn vs 8 wing assertive + sexual dom need to broadcast self

9:53 SX 9 being hooked by something or catatonic

13:31 "When there's no juice, I go catatonic;" Using sharp objects to keep myself awake at school; Kaisa's flatline delivery of severe subjects

19:11 Head last energy

21:26 How are you feeling right now? (Regrounding, getting back to we-space)

24:33 Body vs head types processing in real-time

26:11 Difficult to rev my own engine, but it gets revved by SX things (SX 9 receptivity)

29:37 SX + double competence; collecting SX resources; eating so I smell good, sensitivity to smells

35:20 SX competency story -- collecting data; fulfilling SP blind needs via SX dom motivations 

42:33 Out of body vs in body experience; re-inhabiting my body -- the 9 growth journey

45:29 Exploring SP blind; not recognizing mortality in our body

49:12 "Assertive" SX pursuit of crush with double withdrawn energy; & the SX/SO targeted magnetism dance

50:50 the urgency of SX dom

54:17 Boundaries & experiencing my distinctness

1:00:28 SX/SO "blurry friendships," different from Social

1:01:57 SX ecstasy, loss of self, now I can die in peace; Seeking "Essential Harmony" through SX

1:12:21 Renewing SX chemistry in stable relationships

1:16:48 Sexual chess; Advice for SX blinds

1:21:34 Closing, final reflections

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]]>Kajabi-2148371303Tue, 08 Nov 2022 15:00:00 -050001:24:39falsefull#12: Gray Cietek (SO/SP 3w4 368) — Socially Tracking Others, Truly "Seeing" Others, and the Heart's Silent Communication Underneath Words#12: Gray Cietek (SO/SP 3w4 368) — Socially Tracking Others, Truly "Seeing" Others, and the Heart's Silent Communication Underneath WordsGray and I have similar typing, and in this episode we explore what social 3 is "really wanting," underneath the stereotypical social 3's polish and comportment. This conversation gets to the heart of the Social 3 in a way that meant a lot to me personally. Enjoy.

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Gray's YouTube Channel

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:05 Dropping in as social 3s; "camera on!" "I want to be real, but that doesn't mean my brain agrees that that's safe"; comfort in the metaconversation

6:22 Enneagram origin story; "essence" orientation & you're doing your type every 5 seconds; "I have to be an emblem of value"

13:07 3 going to 6; Sense of responsibility to bring this knowledge into the world; Surrendering your sword to something higher..

21:29 Triple-reactive adjacent 3 -- romanticizing my reactivity to make it an image I want to have, to give myself permission to be that way

30:57 Tracking other people

34:09 Gray's 6-fix inner ping pong ball, saying something and then reacting to what she just said, without prompting

36:14 9-fix vs 8-fix experience of social "vibe"; how secondary 6-fix supports Gray's "tracking"

44:40 Awareness of eyes on you; 8th grade performance story

50:15 Heart center & the gaze; when we're looking from behind our eyes at each other, all of a sudden, here we are together

52:56 What the social 3 is *really* wanting (!) beyond the song and dance (which is a bid for this)

56:45 Grief that the world is so dry of heart; frustration in the heart space

1:03:34 The "role and purpose of 3," according to Gray; seeing people accurately

1:09:55 Seeing & admiring preciousness; yet resisting "going there" with people

1:14:33 3's need for psychological safety as a precondition to show up -- and the growth for 3s to be authentic to BRING ABOUT psychological safety; risking being missed (the initial miss, to happen again)

1:21:12 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Gray and I have similar typing, and in this episode we explore what social 3 is "really wanting," underneath the stereotypical social 3's polish and comportment. This conversation gets to the heart of the Social 3 in a way that meant a lot to me personally. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Gray's YouTube Channel

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:05 Dropping in as social 3s; "camera on!" "I want to be real, but that doesn't mean my brain agrees that that's safe"; comfort in the metaconversation

6:22 Enneagram origin story; "essence" orientation & you're doing your type every 5 seconds; "I have to be an emblem of value"

13:07 3 going to 6; Sense of responsibility to bring this knowledge into the world; Surrendering your sword to something higher..

21:29 Triple-reactive adjacent 3 -- romanticizing my reactivity to make it an image I want to have, to give myself permission to be that way

30:57 Tracking other people

34:09 Gray's 6-fix inner ping pong ball, saying something and then reacting to what she just said, without prompting

36:14 9-fix vs 8-fix experience of social "vibe"; how secondary 6-fix supports Gray's "tracking"

44:40 Awareness of eyes on you; 8th grade performance story

50:15 Heart center & the gaze; when we're looking from behind our eyes at each other, all of a sudden, here we are together

52:56 What the social 3 is *really* wanting (!) beyond the song and dance (which is a bid for this)

56:45 Grief that the world is so dry of heart; frustration in the heart space

1:03:34 The "role and purpose of 3," according to Gray; seeing people accurately

1:09:55 Seeing & admiring preciousness; yet resisting "going there" with people

1:14:33 3's need for psychological safety as a precondition to show up -- and the growth for 3s to be authentic to BRING ABOUT psychological safety; risking being missed (the initial miss, to happen again)

1:21:12 What's this been like for you?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371304Tue, 01 Nov 2022 14:00:00 -050001:24:46falsefull#11: Sam Leuenberger (SP/SO 7w6 712) — The (Avoidant) "Fun" of Talk Therapy; Vulnerability as an Attraction Strategy; & Going Back to Feelings School#11: Sam Leuenberger (SP/SO 7w6 712) — The (Avoidant) "Fun" of Talk Therapy; Vulnerability as an Attraction Strategy; & Going Back to Feelings SchoolSam is an essayist and poet who recently discovered he is a 7, having mistyped as a 4 for years. Before this interview, Sam sent me his beautifully articulated thoughts on being a 7 -- a link to which is below. This conversation explores the Gestalt Therapy session that "got underneath" Sam's mental buzzing and helped him encounter his lonely inner child. Sam is mid-process in a tectonic shift in his self-concept as he reconciles with his 7-ness and goes "back to feelings school." Sam lays our for us often hidden aspects of the 7 type structure -- especially the way talking about pain can *prevent* feeling it and the terror 7s feel of being with pain in a genuine way. A raw and courageous conversation, and a privilege to share it.

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Sam's writing
"Ocean: Notes on a Type 7 Flavored Attachment to Frustration"
Collage Poetry Collection: "Questions Children Ask"

The Enneagram School Website

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:20 "Re-intro"

4:36 Enneagram origin, Mistyping as a 4, Learning his 7-ness

9:37 Sam's 7-ish "audition" for this interview; video & email

14:18 The therapy class that broke me (here through

20:24 The performative fun of therapy, excitement "like feeling carbonated in your body"

22:07 Gestalt Therapy: you're not talking about what I said, you're looking at the way that I "am" -- "Where's the loneliness in your body" -- "everywhere"

25:00 Vulnerability as an attraction strategy; "this is part of who I am, but I haven't wanted to know it for a long time"

29:24 The inner 12 year old boy wanted a hug; empty chair exercise

33:21 Pain as pleasure vs pain as pain; "Do you want me to live there? there's no oxygen, I can't breathe."

37:47 Confirmation bias re 7; "Life is sending me back to feelings school"; mental center good at language, feelings are preverbal

41:19 Knowing when feelings are real; 7 buoyancy vs 4... what? -- 4 energy as "fun" in doses

44:03 What will help you? "When it is appropriate to allow yourself to become undone?"

46:55 The difficulty of "being" in the same room as someone; relationships

49:59 Delaying pain by describing it skillfully -- the describing becomes primary, eclipsing the process

51:20 7 as "spraying" & superimposing interpretations, tone, mood, over the object of consideration

57:19 7 core with triple compliant (612) adjacent; freedom of expression "vs" self-censorship

1:02:41 Giving myself to writing & failing leading to transformation, participation in Creativity (capital C)

1:13:34 Reframing Sam's story through 7 lens (not 4)

1:19:27 How are you feeling & what's this been like?

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]]>Sam is an essayist and poet who recently discovered he is a 7, having mistyped as a 4 for years. Before this interview, Sam sent me his beautifully articulated thoughts on being a 7 -- a link to which is below. This conversation explores the Gestalt Therapy session that "got underneath" Sam's mental buzzing and helped him encounter his lonely inner child. Sam is mid-process in a tectonic shift in his self-concept as he reconciles with his 7-ness and goes "back to feelings school." Sam lays our for us often hidden aspects of the 7 type structure -- especially the way talking about pain can *prevent* feeling it and the terror 7s feel of being with pain in a genuine way. A raw and courageous conversation, and a privilege to share it.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Sam's writing
"Ocean: Notes on a Type 7 Flavored Attachment to Frustration"
Collage Poetry Collection: "Questions Children Ask"

The Enneagram School Website

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:20 "Re-intro"

4:36 Enneagram origin, Mistyping as a 4, Learning his 7-ness

9:37 Sam's 7-ish "audition" for this interview; video & email

14:18 The therapy class that broke me (here through

20:24 The performative fun of therapy, excitement "like feeling carbonated in your body"

22:07 Gestalt Therapy: you're not talking about what I said, you're looking at the way that I "am" -- "Where's the loneliness in your body" -- "everywhere"

25:00 Vulnerability as an attraction strategy; "this is part of who I am, but I haven't wanted to know it for a long time"

29:24 The inner 12 year old boy wanted a hug; empty chair exercise

33:21 Pain as pleasure vs pain as pain; "Do you want me to live there? there's no oxygen, I can't breathe."

37:47 Confirmation bias re 7; "Life is sending me back to feelings school"; mental center good at language, feelings are preverbal

41:19 Knowing when feelings are real; 7 buoyancy vs 4... what? -- 4 energy as "fun" in doses

44:03 What will help you? "When it is appropriate to allow yourself to become undone?"

46:55 The difficulty of "being" in the same room as someone; relationships

49:59 Delaying pain by describing it skillfully -- the describing becomes primary, eclipsing the process

51:20 7 as "spraying" & superimposing interpretations, tone, mood, over the object of consideration

57:19 7 core with triple compliant (612) adjacent; freedom of expression "vs" self-censorship

1:02:41 Giving myself to writing & failing leading to transformation, participation in Creativity (capital C)

1:13:34 Reframing Sam's story through 7 lens (not 4)

1:19:27 How are you feeling & what's this been like?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371305Tue, 25 Oct 2022 14:00:00 -050001:21:00falsefull#10: Joseph Stalteri (SO/SX 4w3 461) — Frustration in the Heart Center, the Resting Attitude of Disdain, & Seeking Refined Social Intimacy#10: Joseph Stalteri (SO/SX 4w3 461) — Frustration in the Heart Center, the Resting Attitude of Disdain, & Seeking Refined Social IntimacyJoseph Salteri is a Type 4 (SO/SX 4w3 461) and is part of the team that runs Enneagrammer.com. He wrote all of the (excellent) content on the Enneagrammer website, including the written typing test, and he is one of the trio of typing experts that runs Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where they take you under the hood of their experiential typing process by typing a celebrity in real-time. This conversation explores how Joseph experiences being a core frustration type in the heart center and why that results in a "resting attitude of disdain." The heart center is fundamentally about how we experience and express our identity, and Joseph's opening quote strikes me as what the 4 as a heart type is about: expressing my likes and dislikes as a way of "showing you who I am."

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Links
Enneagrammer Website
Watch Joseph Type Celebrities in Realtime
Enneagram[mer] Universe Facebook Group

The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

4:14 Enneagram origin story

10:07 What makes you care so much about the Enneagram?

14:14 Disdain as a "natural resting state," but sometimes things surprise me

17:40 Enneagram at a head vs heart level; "as a heart type, the heart is blocked;" 4s are emotionally guarded, not "emotionally wet and open"

19:50 Not expecting to be "seen," only wanting to be seen by a certain kind of person (that I like)

22:17 What feeds your heart? -- music; also, heart talk making me want to vomit

24:48 On playing classical piano: I didn't "cultivate" musicianship -- "If it's work, I don't do it;" 3 vs 4 orientation to "work" or where I spend time

26:40 On playing piano for others: "Audiences are trash;" 4 not expecting to be seen, yet "I'd love for someone to hear/pay attention to me playing music that I love:" "The music IS me."

29:39 Joseph's love for classical music, Beethoven

31:16 Sincere love of X "vs" the image of being the kind of person who loves X

33:12 things you love that don't fit your image, and things that fit your image that you don't love; (e.g. admitting that I like harry potter -- "ew" why? retrospectively justifying it within my self-image)

37:31 Relationship with inner work: not doing inner work consciously... not really connecting with the spiritual side of the enneagram (& how that's helped with typing)

43:19 Journey as a gay man; coming out as a 4 vs 3; not being capable of lying for long; the gay "brand" being 7-ish; not attaching to staples of the gay world (frustration)

47:32 4's relationship with community and belonging -- subconsciously not feeling like I belong anywhere; social type fomo, wanting to have social contact, but only of a certain kind

50:58 Belonging I n Enneagrammer Universe community? wanting to curate an uncontaminated social place where there's nothing I don't like; the fantasy of a boundaried, space

55:50 Participating in public forums vs participating in "your" community that you helped create -- similar fantasy still at play, similar frustration and expectation of disappointment

57:34 Frustration as a powerful motivator

58:55 The image of being disdainful -- "It feels true" -- the importance of it being true; a way of revealing myself

1:03:21 Expressing that you love or hate something both showing you who I am

1:04:44 Catching myself being inauthentic (3 vs 4)

1:07:31 If I'm not telling you...]]>Joseph Salteri is a Type 4 (SO/SX 4w3 461) and is part of the team that runs Enneagrammer.com. He wrote all of the (excellent) content on the Enneagrammer website, including the written typing test, and he is one of the trio of typing experts that runs Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where they take you under the hood of their experiential typing process by typing a celebrity in real-time. This conversation explores how Joseph experiences being a core frustration type in the heart center and why that results in a "resting attitude of disdain." The heart center is fundamentally about how we experience and express our identity, and Joseph's opening quote strikes me as what the 4 as a heart type is about: expressing my likes and dislikes as a way of "showing you who I am."

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Links
Enneagrammer Website
Watch Joseph Type Celebrities in Realtime
Enneagram[mer] Universe Facebook Group

The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

4:14 Enneagram origin story

10:07 What makes you care so much about the Enneagram?

14:14 Disdain as a "natural resting state," but sometimes things surprise me

17:40 Enneagram at a head vs heart level; "as a heart type, the heart is blocked;" 4s are emotionally guarded, not "emotionally wet and open"

19:50 Not expecting to be "seen," only wanting to be seen by a certain kind of person (that I like)

22:17 What feeds your heart? -- music; also, heart talk making me want to vomit

24:48 On playing classical piano: I didn't "cultivate" musicianship -- "If it's work, I don't do it;" 3 vs 4 orientation to "work" or where I spend time

26:40 On playing piano for others: "Audiences are trash;" 4 not expecting to be seen, yet "I'd love for someone to hear/pay attention to me playing music that I love:" "The music IS me."

29:39 Joseph's love for classical music, Beethoven

31:16 Sincere love of X "vs" the image of being the kind of person who loves X

33:12 things you love that don't fit your image, and things that fit your image that you don't love; (e.g. admitting that I like harry potter -- "ew" why? retrospectively justifying it within my self-image)

37:31 Relationship with inner work: not doing inner work consciously... not really connecting with the spiritual side of the enneagram (& how that's helped with typing)

43:19 Journey as a gay man; coming out as a 4 vs 3; not being capable of lying for long; the gay "brand" being 7-ish; not attaching to staples of the gay world (frustration)

47:32 4's relationship with community and belonging -- subconsciously not feeling like I belong anywhere; social type fomo, wanting to have social contact, but only of a certain kind

50:58 Belonging I n Enneagrammer Universe community? wanting to curate an uncontaminated social place where there's nothing I don't like; the fantasy of a boundaried, space

55:50 Participating in public forums vs participating in "your" community that you helped create -- similar fantasy still at play, similar frustration and expectation of disappointment

57:34 Frustration as a powerful motivator

58:55 The image of being disdainful -- "It feels true" -- the importance of it being true; a way of revealing myself

1:03:21 Expressing that you love or hate something both showing you who I am

1:04:44 Catching myself being inauthentic (3 vs 4)

1:07:31 If I'm not telling you the truth, it's because I don't care enough to get into it with you

1:11:03 3 vs 4 navigating moment to moment the desire to be seen in a particular way

1:14:17 Awareness of how you're seen in the facebook group; assuming people love David and Emeka more

1:17:25 Fearing I'll get into a conversation with someone and be disgusted by them, or disappointed by their taste; 4-1 stem severity, avoiding contamination, everything is a likely contaminant

1:23:00 What's this been like for you? Hard talking about myself, not about "types" in abstractions; my instinct is to hide, to not want to expose myself; have to get past the assumption that you won't understand me & the disdain layer (of you, of this, etc) in order to answer the question from a real place

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]]>Kajabi-2148371306Tue, 18 Oct 2022 14:00:00 -050001:28:14falsefull#9: Ikraam Ali (SO/SX 7w6 793) — Procrastinating Darkness, Frustration with Negativity AS Negativity, and Giving an "Honest Try" at Positivity#9: Ikraam Ali (SO/SX 7w6 793) — Procrastinating Darkness, Frustration with Negativity AS Negativity, and Giving an "Honest Try" at PositivityIkraam Ali is a Type 7 (SO/SX 7w6 793) who works in local politics. She also has her own YouTube channel focused on Objective Personality System (OPS). This conversation challenged the stereotype of 7s as “positive” types and reframed the 7 pattern “positive outlook” way of being from a frustration lens — in particular, frustration with negativity, which paradoxically creates its own kind of negativity. We get into deep territory here: Ikraam’s relationship with negativity itself and her bout with depression, and aspects of her telling of the story surfaced aspects of the 7 personality, which Ikraam explored gracefully in real time.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Ikraam’s YouTube Channel, skib n mope
Enneagram[mer] Universe Facebook Group

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro
2:53 Enneagram origin story
5:22 "Taste Testing" her way to the Enneagram; OPS & Enneagram really capturing her
8:54 Being satiated by an interest; 7 line to 5; a funny moment: "can I swear here?”
11:56 Enneagram as "depressing," it's a "horrifying hobby" not a fun one
15:48 7 not exactly 'positive'; procrastinating darkness, not metabolizing negativity (really good definitional stuff)
18:05 Using the word "depression" lightly yet referencing deep pain;
19:07 Seeing negativity and wanting to be positive "makes you negative"; sensitivity to others "giving up" on being happy
20:38 7 as frustration type, contrasts with 1 & 4
22:42 Envisioning a better future; Kid Cudi's (a 7) songs get negative but focus or "tend toward" an uplifting vision or possibility
26:04 Somatic buoyancy, inner teflon; “How do you feel right now, talking about negativity?”
29:02 Fixated on "keeping things interesting"; the horror of boredom. Religious stories -- "stimulating" hellfire & brimstone vs boring repeats
34:50 Freedom vs Joy / Delight; 7 as "The Freedom Seeker”
36:12 Comparing head types 5, 6, 7; attachment vs frustration in the mental center (6 vs 7); "I'm on my own roller coaster”
39:42 On metabolizing negativity; growing up & seeing unfairness in the world, needing to reframe it, hold a positive vision for it
46:16 What helped you face the grief / dissoance between positive vision and reality / the feeling of being trapped in negative life?
49:43 Scary to talk about negative things happening now -- easier to reflect retrospectively, because it's over
51:38 7 assertiveness helping me deal with / move through depression
54:35 Jittery in sharing the story; discomfort that "i'm not feeling it." What's underneath the jitters?
59:25 The undercurrent of suffering that has defined her life trajectory; "An honest try at bringing positivity"; addicted to volunteering
1:04:20 How do you feel right now? Vulnerable to talk about this stuff.
1:05:50 The soul of the 7 - transforming suffering into something uplifting
1:06:58 Final comments

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]]>Ikraam Ali is a Type 7 (SO/SX 7w6 793) who works in local politics. She also has her own YouTube channel focused on Objective Personality System (OPS). This conversation challenged the stereotype of 7s as “positive” types and reframed the 7 pattern “positive outlook” way of being from a frustration lens — in particular, frustration with negativity, which paradoxically creates its own kind of negativity. We get into deep territory here: Ikraam’s relationship with negativity itself and her bout with depression, and aspects of her telling of the story surfaced aspects of the 7 personality, which Ikraam explored gracefully in real time.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Ikraam’s YouTube Channel, skib n mope
Enneagram[mer] Universe Facebook Group

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro
2:53 Enneagram origin story
5:22 "Taste Testing" her way to the Enneagram; OPS & Enneagram really capturing her
8:54 Being satiated by an interest; 7 line to 5; a funny moment: "can I swear here?”
11:56 Enneagram as "depressing," it's a "horrifying hobby" not a fun one
15:48 7 not exactly 'positive'; procrastinating darkness, not metabolizing negativity (really good definitional stuff)
18:05 Using the word "depression" lightly yet referencing deep pain;
19:07 Seeing negativity and wanting to be positive "makes you negative"; sensitivity to others "giving up" on being happy
20:38 7 as frustration type, contrasts with 1 & 4
22:42 Envisioning a better future; Kid Cudi's (a 7) songs get negative but focus or "tend toward" an uplifting vision or possibility
26:04 Somatic buoyancy, inner teflon; “How do you feel right now, talking about negativity?”
29:02 Fixated on "keeping things interesting"; the horror of boredom. Religious stories -- "stimulating" hellfire & brimstone vs boring repeats
34:50 Freedom vs Joy / Delight; 7 as "The Freedom Seeker”
36:12 Comparing head types 5, 6, 7; attachment vs frustration in the mental center (6 vs 7); "I'm on my own roller coaster”
39:42 On metabolizing negativity; growing up & seeing unfairness in the world, needing to reframe it, hold a positive vision for it
46:16 What helped you face the grief / dissoance between positive vision and reality / the feeling of being trapped in negative life?
49:43 Scary to talk about negative things happening now -- easier to reflect retrospectively, because it's over
51:38 7 assertiveness helping me deal with / move through depression
54:35 Jittery in sharing the story; discomfort that "i'm not feeling it." What's underneath the jitters?
59:25 The undercurrent of suffering that has defined her life trajectory; "An honest try at bringing positivity"; addicted to volunteering
1:04:20 How do you feel right now? Vulnerable to talk about this stuff.
1:05:50 The soul of the 7 - transforming suffering into something uplifting
1:06:58 Final comments

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]]>Kajabi-2148371307Tue, 02 Aug 2022 14:00:00 -050001:08:09falsefull#8: Dr. Mary Bates (SP/SO 6w7 692) — Core Sense of Responsibility, the Practice of Making Deliberate Mistakes, and How to Know When to Stop Brushing the Dog#8: Dr. Mary Bates (SP/SO 6w7 692) — Core Sense of Responsibility, the Practice of Making Deliberate Mistakes, and How to Know When to Stop Brushing the DogDr. Mary Bates is a Type 6 (SP/SO 6w7 692) primary care doctor, writer, and mother of 2. Mary discovered she is a 6 with the help of the Enneagrammer typing team after having mistyped as a 2 and a 9, the other two types in her trifix. More than anything, this conversation awoke in me a new reverence the 6’s sense of sacred responsibility and “core of humanity,” which permeates Mary’s life and way of being — both as a doctor, and as an inner anchor for her in surviving major childhood trauma. Our conversation also opened up interesting questions about what anxiety “really” is. Enjoy.

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:15 Enneagram Origin Story, mistyping as 2 and 9; discovering I’m a 6

10:17 “In my defense" - "I've thought of everything"; not wanting to be exposed for having not thought of something

12:17 On realizing I was an anxious person; finding better words for "anxiety" - what really is anxiety?

16:46 692 the "healing trifix" - doctor fit

18:51 How do I know when to stop brushing the dog? -- "Have I covered everything / thought of everything?"

19:49 The pleasure of looking behind the curtain, "what's really going on here?" (a hugely overlooked and essential gift of the 6)

21:46 Exploring anxiety as the question: "How do I know when to stop X?" E.g. stop over-analyzing, looking around the corner, finding another answer, etc

24:49 A perfect 6 story - "Should I pull over to read the text?"

27:03 What helps with the indecision of 6? "Taking yourself by the hand and doing it even though it's scary" 

29:25 The practice of making deliberate mistakes; what a "practice" really is, custom practices for your nervous system

32:03 Reactivity, being provocative, negative; "If something needs to be said, I'll say it"

38:28 Duty, responsibility, and concern as core ways of being

41:04 Double super-ego trifix. "If I feel I can, I must”; Why is it hard to shirk responsibility?

43:51 6-9 stem and anti-narcissism - "Whatever you want for dinner" -- "sure" -- realizing that it's annoying!

47:59 Justifying localizing myself by the reasoning that it makes me less burdensome to others

53:07 Silence (a beautiful moment of...)

57:14 Mary's survival of capital “T” Trauma, - the “inner core of humanity” that sustained her

1:01:11 Doctor as vocation; the "gnosis" of realizing: “I could be a doctor!”; 692 trifix singing through your life

1:06:16 "You didn’t ask me what it’s like to be introduced!" (ha!) 6-ish anticipation & response

1:08:27 Conclusion

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]]>Dr. Mary Bates is a Type 6 (SP/SO 6w7 692) primary care doctor, writer, and mother of 2. Mary discovered she is a 6 with the help of the Enneagrammer typing team after having mistyped as a 2 and a 9, the other two types in her trifix. More than anything, this conversation awoke in me a new reverence the 6’s sense of sacred responsibility and “core of humanity,” which permeates Mary’s life and way of being — both as a doctor, and as an inner anchor for her in surviving major childhood trauma. Our conversation also opened up interesting questions about what anxiety “really” is. Enjoy.

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

3:15 Enneagram Origin Story, mistyping as 2 and 9; discovering I’m a 6

10:17 “In my defense" - "I've thought of everything"; not wanting to be exposed for having not thought of something

12:17 On realizing I was an anxious person; finding better words for "anxiety" - what really is anxiety?

16:46 692 the "healing trifix" - doctor fit

18:51 How do I know when to stop brushing the dog? -- "Have I covered everything / thought of everything?"

19:49 The pleasure of looking behind the curtain, "what's really going on here?" (a hugely overlooked and essential gift of the 6)

21:46 Exploring anxiety as the question: "How do I know when to stop X?" E.g. stop over-analyzing, looking around the corner, finding another answer, etc

24:49 A perfect 6 story - "Should I pull over to read the text?"

27:03 What helps with the indecision of 6? "Taking yourself by the hand and doing it even though it's scary" 

29:25 The practice of making deliberate mistakes; what a "practice" really is, custom practices for your nervous system

32:03 Reactivity, being provocative, negative; "If something needs to be said, I'll say it"

38:28 Duty, responsibility, and concern as core ways of being

41:04 Double super-ego trifix. "If I feel I can, I must”; Why is it hard to shirk responsibility?

43:51 6-9 stem and anti-narcissism - "Whatever you want for dinner" -- "sure" -- realizing that it's annoying!

47:59 Justifying localizing myself by the reasoning that it makes me less burdensome to others

53:07 Silence (a beautiful moment of...)

57:14 Mary's survival of capital “T” Trauma, - the “inner core of humanity” that sustained her

1:01:11 Doctor as vocation; the "gnosis" of realizing: “I could be a doctor!”; 692 trifix singing through your life

1:06:16 "You didn’t ask me what it’s like to be introduced!" (ha!) 6-ish anticipation & response

1:08:27 Conclusion

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]]>Kajabi-2148371308Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:00:00 -050001:10:08falsefull#7: Jess (SO/SP 5w6 538) — Risking Exposure, the Symbolic Objects I Put Between Us, and the Terror of Mindless, Soul-Dead Zombie-People#7: Jess (SO/SP 5w6 538) — Risking Exposure, the Symbolic Objects I Put Between Us, and the Terror of Mindless, Soul-Dead Zombie-PeopleJess is a Type 5 (SO/SP 5w6 538) writer and artist “based on the internet.” Like many 5s, she prefers her privacy and requested that I mention no signifiers of her identity beyond the above. She originally typed as a 7, which given the way she presents, is no surprise. Jess takes on a a whimsical romp through "pleasure gardens," symbolic objects, and the terror of soul-dead zombie-people. This conversation really challenged my understanding of 5-ness. It was fascinating to explore how her withdrawn, rejection core -- underpinned by two assertive fixes -- "deals with" the social drive for connection while maintaining separateness. Enjoy.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:24 Interview start; “living on the internet”; the desire not to be found

4:52 Avarice; contrasting social desire for connection & withdrawal of 5; being a stranger in a strange land

8:13 the pleasure garden, disappointment that the other can’t see they’re in a garden; loneliness

12:08 Enneagram origin story, thinking I was a 7, getting typed as 5

14:58 The symbolic object that I place between us

19:43 My hidden intellectual agenda (or, unspoken hope); the 5 tendency to provoke

22:43 Seeking connection through the mind; “can you withstand this” - they probably can’t but might as well fuck around and find out

25:03 Missing connection through the body during pandemic; yet sensory overload of physical presence

26:58 Social instinct yearnings vs 5-ness; the “something” I’m looking for

31:35 “Fuck it” energy; whimsy

33:28 What “MATTERS” and what it means for something to be “MINE” - I’m the source of it; What matters is autonomy to learn, research, process, create — the tinkering itself, not the result

40:47 Where do you locate your “self” internally? Body awareness in space

46:49 Inner work? Creativity, dream analysis, meditation.

50:23 Her art & thematic underpinnings: “I don’t do anything that doesn’t also mean something else.”

52:19 Alchemy of art; art as self-discovery; 5 impulse for discovery pointed inward

56:28 Not important that others see my art; the expectation that others will fail to see “it” or “me”

1:03:03 538 trifix; 3 fix as “tether to reality — can’t forget about the other”; conflict between 5 and 3 fix — want to be seen, but uncomfortable

1:05:53 On protecting my heart; hoops to jump through before i reveal it

1:08:49 Terror & mindless, soul-dead zombie-people; FEAR in general — I be drained, inconvenienced by other humanS

1:15:13 The risk of exposure - “a thread would be pulled and everything would come apart at the seams”

1:18:41 Zombie fear reprise: terrifying because what?? they’ll unknowingly suck something away from me in “reckless, heartless consumption”; head types: “fear all the way down”

1:22:01What’s this like for you?

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]]>Jess is a Type 5 (SO/SP 5w6 538) writer and artist “based on the internet.” Like many 5s, she prefers her privacy and requested that I mention no signifiers of her identity beyond the above. She originally typed as a 7, which given the way she presents, is no surprise. Jess takes on a a whimsical romp through "pleasure gardens," symbolic objects, and the terror of soul-dead zombie-people. This conversation really challenged my understanding of 5-ness. It was fascinating to explore how her withdrawn, rejection core -- underpinned by two assertive fixes -- "deals with" the social drive for connection while maintaining separateness. Enjoy.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE
Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:24 Interview start; “living on the internet”; the desire not to be found

4:52 Avarice; contrasting social desire for connection & withdrawal of 5; being a stranger in a strange land

8:13 the pleasure garden, disappointment that the other can’t see they’re in a garden; loneliness

12:08 Enneagram origin story, thinking I was a 7, getting typed as 5

14:58 The symbolic object that I place between us

19:43 My hidden intellectual agenda (or, unspoken hope); the 5 tendency to provoke

22:43 Seeking connection through the mind; “can you withstand this” - they probably can’t but might as well fuck around and find out

25:03 Missing connection through the body during pandemic; yet sensory overload of physical presence

26:58 Social instinct yearnings vs 5-ness; the “something” I’m looking for

31:35 “Fuck it” energy; whimsy

33:28 What “MATTERS” and what it means for something to be “MINE” - I’m the source of it; What matters is autonomy to learn, research, process, create — the tinkering itself, not the result

40:47 Where do you locate your “self” internally? Body awareness in space

46:49 Inner work? Creativity, dream analysis, meditation.

50:23 Her art & thematic underpinnings: “I don’t do anything that doesn’t also mean something else.”

52:19 Alchemy of art; art as self-discovery; 5 impulse for discovery pointed inward

56:28 Not important that others see my art; the expectation that others will fail to see “it” or “me”

1:03:03 538 trifix; 3 fix as “tether to reality — can’t forget about the other”; conflict between 5 and 3 fix — want to be seen, but uncomfortable

1:05:53 On protecting my heart; hoops to jump through before i reveal it

1:08:49 Terror & mindless, soul-dead zombie-people; FEAR in general — I be drained, inconvenienced by other humanS

1:15:13 The risk of exposure - “a thread would be pulled and everything would come apart at the seams”

1:18:41 Zombie fear reprise: terrifying because what?? they’ll unknowingly suck something away from me in “reckless, heartless consumption”; head types: “fear all the way down”

1:22:01What’s this like for you?

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]]>Kajabi-2148371309Tue, 19 Jul 2022 14:00:00 -050001:24:36falsefull#6: John Luckovich (SX/SP 4w5) — The Inner Middle Finger, the Crushing Gloss of Artifice, and the Sourcing of Identity in Depth Itself#6: John Luckovich (SX/SP 4w5) — The Inner Middle Finger, the Crushing Gloss of Artifice, and the Sourcing of Identity in Depth ItselfJohn Luckovich is one of the most brilliant and authentic Enneagram teachers of my generation. His teaching is clear, challenging, thought-provoking, and comes from sincere desire to illuminate the psyche and immersion in his own inner work. His book, The Instinctual Drives and the Enneagram, presents the first ever coherent theory of instincts that incorporates evolutionary biology and developmental psychology, and it successfully argues for the instincts' centrality in spiritual transformation. I think very highly of John, and I'm excited for you to learn from him in this conversation.

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Timestamps

00:00 Intro
2:54 What’s it like to be introduced? Silly, cartoonish
4:01 Enneagram origin story
6:11 Contrasting how 3 & 4 experience identity - John's professional journey in Enneagram world
11:21 The Enneagram’s sacred, eternal insight & way it renders reality
15:11 Growing up in Atlanta “everything was like a giant mall..." dead, glossy, lifeless artifice
18:11 The Enneagram humiliates the personality; “Where else do you go to locate identity?”
20:56 Inner work for John; becoming more “open”; expanding the 4’s narrow emotional range
25:50 Contrasting 2, 3 & 4. 4 is part of identity that is “singularly my own.” The inner life of 4s.
33:21 4s showing you that “I’m different”; 4’s natural allergy to other’s trying to get them to “be on the same page”; the inner middle finger
38:31: What is "Depth?" a sense of mystery, reaching, a “saturation of one’s experience,” “a beauty that moves your soul”
44:10 Why doing taxes feels "not deep,” and what it means to relax the “grasping” for depth
47:10 John’s book -- promoting it vs writing it; 4’s “resistance to functioning,” the writing & research motivated by self- and topic-discovery
58:50 The 4’s appreciation of others’ depth; misunderstandings of “authenticity”; sensing when other people are “resonating with themselves”
1:07:10 “Does that make sense?” - what’s that about? - social blind, not sensing if we’re on the same page
1:09:25 “What’s this been like for you?” some bro love

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]]>John Luckovich is one of the most brilliant and authentic Enneagram teachers of my generation. His teaching is clear, challenging, thought-provoking, and comes from sincere desire to illuminate the psyche and immersion in his own inner work. His book, The Instinctual Drives and the Enneagram, presents the first ever coherent theory of instincts that incorporates evolutionary biology and developmental psychology, and it successfully argues for the instincts' centrality in spiritual transformation. I think very highly of John, and I'm excited for you to learn from him in this conversation.

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Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

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Timestamps

00:00 Intro
2:54 What’s it like to be introduced? Silly, cartoonish
4:01 Enneagram origin story
6:11 Contrasting how 3 & 4 experience identity - John's professional journey in Enneagram world
11:21 The Enneagram’s sacred, eternal insight & way it renders reality
15:11 Growing up in Atlanta “everything was like a giant mall..." dead, glossy, lifeless artifice
18:11 The Enneagram humiliates the personality; “Where else do you go to locate identity?”
20:56 Inner work for John; becoming more “open”; expanding the 4’s narrow emotional range
25:50 Contrasting 2, 3 & 4. 4 is part of identity that is “singularly my own.” The inner life of 4s.
33:21 4s showing you that “I’m different”; 4’s natural allergy to other’s trying to get them to “be on the same page”; the inner middle finger
38:31: What is "Depth?" a sense of mystery, reaching, a “saturation of one’s experience,” “a beauty that moves your soul”
44:10 Why doing taxes feels "not deep,” and what it means to relax the “grasping” for depth
47:10 John’s book -- promoting it vs writing it; 4’s “resistance to functioning,” the writing & research motivated by self- and topic-discovery
58:50 The 4’s appreciation of others’ depth; misunderstandings of “authenticity”; sensing when other people are “resonating with themselves”
1:07:10 “Does that make sense?” - what’s that about? - social blind, not sensing if we’re on the same page
1:09:25 “What’s this been like for you?” some bro love

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]]>Kajabi-2148371310Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:00:00 -050001:13:04falsefull#5: Kelsey Bishop (SP/SO 3w2 378) — Chasing "The Dream" vs "My Dream," Authenticity at Work, and Learning How to Rest#5: Kelsey Bishop (SP/SO 3w2 378) — Chasing "The Dream" vs "My Dream," Authenticity at Work, and Learning How to RestKelsey Bishop is a Type 3 (SP/SO 3w2 378) whose shift from chasing "The Dream" to discovering her dream tangibly illustrates the 3's growth journey. She is the Founder of Candor, a new kind of professional network dedicated to increasing fulfillment at work by helping you discover and share "how you work." I find Kelsey inspiring and refreshingly self-revealing. We get into some good core 3 stuff like work/activity as self-regulation and what it means to rest and restore oneself. This convo is a really good, "straight down the middle" intro to the Type 3.

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Kelsey's Links
Check out Candor
Kelsey’s Twitter: @kelseyCBishop

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro
3:47 What’s it like to be introduced?
5:00 Learning the Enneagram at work, discovering I was a 3
7:50 Work as self-regulation; “My desired mode is to be working”; checking things off, feeling accomplished; the “safe haven” of work (from emotions)
10:50 Contrasting work I love and work I don’t love; “It’s so easy to see what people want me to do”
12:35 On chasing “The Dream,” joining a rocketship, not liking it
20:15 Quit the company she didn’t like and took time for reflection: “That wasn’t me. So... what is me?” - how do you know?
22:45 Oil painting practice: “I feel good when I paint”; struggling with not feeling productive, but doing it anyway. “What makes me feel grounded?”
25:05 Founding Candor “feels like the most me thing I’ve ever done.’ “It’s definitely not The Dream. It’s definitely my dream.
27:15 What’s Candor? Why it’s “my dream.” Candor’s 3-ish flavor. Celebrating people. Bringing our full selves to work. Fulfilling potential.
31:10 3 integrating to 6. “For so long I thought work was checking things off a list and feeling accomplished. But when it’s tied to a deeper mission, it feels like magic.”
34:20 On feeling emotions. “In college I was human doer.” The fear that if I feel my emotions, “I’ll never stop crying.” The tradeoff — feel my emotions now or deal with the backlog later.
41:45 Body-mind / heart separation in the 3 44:45 Relationship with rest. Feeling “indulgent,” self-critical. Trying more unplanned “restorative” days, not overplanned “vacation.”
47:45 What it means to be restored. “Giving my brain a rest”; the discipline to meditate and the excuses that come up
50:30 3 as founder, raising money, being rejected by investors is like they’re rejecting “me”; getting comfortable with “failing”
58:50 3 as leader/CEO. Leading a team. Openness and authenticity as part of the culture.
1:03:45 Vulnerable retro after letting someone go; “Here’s where I messed up.” Setting a precedent for honest self-reflection. High side of 3
1:09:00 Conclusion

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]]>Kelsey Bishop is a Type 3 (SP/SO 3w2 378) whose shift from chasing "The Dream" to discovering her dream tangibly illustrates the 3's growth journey. She is the Founder of Candor, a new kind of professional network dedicated to increasing fulfillment at work by helping you discover and share "how you work." I find Kelsey inspiring and refreshingly self-revealing. We get into some good core 3 stuff like work/activity as self-regulation and what it means to rest and restore oneself. This convo is a really good, "straight down the middle" intro to the Type 3.

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Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Kelsey's Links
Check out Candor
Kelsey’s Twitter: @kelseyCBishop

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro
3:47 What’s it like to be introduced?
5:00 Learning the Enneagram at work, discovering I was a 3
7:50 Work as self-regulation; “My desired mode is to be working”; checking things off, feeling accomplished; the “safe haven” of work (from emotions)
10:50 Contrasting work I love and work I don’t love; “It’s so easy to see what people want me to do”
12:35 On chasing “The Dream,” joining a rocketship, not liking it
20:15 Quit the company she didn’t like and took time for reflection: “That wasn’t me. So... what is me?” - how do you know?
22:45 Oil painting practice: “I feel good when I paint”; struggling with not feeling productive, but doing it anyway. “What makes me feel grounded?”
25:05 Founding Candor “feels like the most me thing I’ve ever done.’ “It’s definitely not The Dream. It’s definitely my dream.
27:15 What’s Candor? Why it’s “my dream.” Candor’s 3-ish flavor. Celebrating people. Bringing our full selves to work. Fulfilling potential.
31:10 3 integrating to 6. “For so long I thought work was checking things off a list and feeling accomplished. But when it’s tied to a deeper mission, it feels like magic.”
34:20 On feeling emotions. “In college I was human doer.” The fear that if I feel my emotions, “I’ll never stop crying.” The tradeoff — feel my emotions now or deal with the backlog later.
41:45 Body-mind / heart separation in the 3 44:45 Relationship with rest. Feeling “indulgent,” self-critical. Trying more unplanned “restorative” days, not overplanned “vacation.”
47:45 What it means to be restored. “Giving my brain a rest”; the discipline to meditate and the excuses that come up
50:30 3 as founder, raising money, being rejected by investors is like they’re rejecting “me”; getting comfortable with “failing”
58:50 3 as leader/CEO. Leading a team. Openness and authenticity as part of the culture.
1:03:45 Vulnerable retro after letting someone go; “Here’s where I messed up.” Setting a precedent for honest self-reflection. High side of 3
1:09:00 Conclusion

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]]>Kajabi-2148371311Tue, 05 Jul 2022 15:00:00 -050001:11:04falsefull#4: Niklas Wilkens (SO/SP 2w3 269) — The Inner Hope Machine, Power Tripping as "Super Jesus," and Seeing Through Ego Pride#4: Niklas Wilkens (SO/SP 2w3 269) — The Inner Hope Machine, Power Tripping as "Super Jesus," and Seeing Through Ego PrideNiklas Wilkens is a humanistic depth psychologist practicing in Germany, and he’s been working with the Enneagram for 14 years, although only 2 years ago realized that he was an Enneagram 2. Niklas honestly blew me away with his very personal and high resolution description of his 2-ness (despite mistyping as a 5 for 11 years!). We get into why 2 is a rejection type, the "inner hope machine," why 2s can come across as creepy, and what it took for him to start really seeing himself. Really (really) good stuff.

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Niklas' Blog

Want to work with Niklas? Email him at: psychotherapie.wilkens@gmx.de

 

Time stamps

0:00 Intro, Type 2 Pride & Humility

1:48 Object Relations Intro

3:49 Meet Niklas, his mistyping journey, & landing on 2

9:30 How mistyping changes the value you see in the enneagram

14:02 Discovering 2, can’t delude myself I’m coming from a purely selfless place

17:20 2 as rejection type; hopelessness and the “hope machine”

27:50 When someone tries to love me…

32:10 When the image “shatters” and the most sensitive part of you is exposed

37:40 The autonomous heart beneath self-image

38:22 Type 2 Trouble with Birthdays

41:08 Being a Type 2 therapist, gifts and liabilities; the nourishment of mattering to someone

47:45 Have to watch using clients as evidence for my hope machine

51:25 Delusions of being “Super Jesus”; addiction to loving others; not seeing contradiction in my “selflessness” and my indignation that others don’t reciprocate

55:33 On being truly loved, when people really do see me

56:10 My path to ego transparency; phase of NVC militancy (ha!); therapy & becoming a therapist

1:04:08 The Vigilance of image types, flow state when we lose sight of the image

1:08:00 - The image specificity of 2 vs adaptability of 3

1:10:45 Aspects of Therapy that conflict with my 2 image (e.g. money, taking clinical notes)

1:14:00 Being a 2 Therapist in the wild - withdrawing when ppl don’t want to go deep, and accidentally imposing, sensing for receptivity

1:17:58 2s are “honest” when they only see loving motivation — it’s all they can see

1:18:40 - The gift I gave this woman; the pressure 2s put on others, why it feels “creepy; pressure to reciprocate is 2 security, leverage; but this is *not conscious*

1:24:00 What it takes to wake up as a 2; the question, “Why isn’t this working?”; the woman who resisted anything given from the pattern, but stayed interested anyway

1:29:53 What was this like for you?

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In this conversation, we get into some REALLY good stuff:

- Realizing I thought my type was “universal," & how mistyping influences the value you see in the enneagram and the way you think of typology in general
- Realizing I was a 2, shaking and crying, no longer being able to delude myself that I was coming from a purely selfless, loving place
- 2 as a rejection type, not attachment type; “the hope machine” — I don’t believe being loved is possible, but I’m going go out to you anyway, hoping it reflects...]]>Niklas Wilkens is a humanistic depth psychologist practicing in Germany, and he’s been working with the Enneagram for 14 years, although only 2 years ago realized that he was an Enneagram 2. Niklas honestly blew me away with his very personal and high resolution description of his 2-ness (despite mistyping as a 5 for 11 years!). We get into why 2 is a rejection type, the "inner hope machine," why 2s can come across as creepy, and what it took for him to start really seeing himself. Really (really) good stuff.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Niklas' Blog

Want to work with Niklas? Email him at: psychotherapie.wilkens@gmx.de

 

Time stamps

0:00 Intro, Type 2 Pride & Humility

1:48 Object Relations Intro

3:49 Meet Niklas, his mistyping journey, & landing on 2

9:30 How mistyping changes the value you see in the enneagram

14:02 Discovering 2, can’t delude myself I’m coming from a purely selfless place

17:20 2 as rejection type; hopelessness and the “hope machine”

27:50 When someone tries to love me…

32:10 When the image “shatters” and the most sensitive part of you is exposed

37:40 The autonomous heart beneath self-image

38:22 Type 2 Trouble with Birthdays

41:08 Being a Type 2 therapist, gifts and liabilities; the nourishment of mattering to someone

47:45 Have to watch using clients as evidence for my hope machine

51:25 Delusions of being “Super Jesus”; addiction to loving others; not seeing contradiction in my “selflessness” and my indignation that others don’t reciprocate

55:33 On being truly loved, when people really do see me

56:10 My path to ego transparency; phase of NVC militancy (ha!); therapy & becoming a therapist

1:04:08 The Vigilance of image types, flow state when we lose sight of the image

1:08:00 - The image specificity of 2 vs adaptability of 3

1:10:45 Aspects of Therapy that conflict with my 2 image (e.g. money, taking clinical notes)

1:14:00 Being a 2 Therapist in the wild - withdrawing when ppl don’t want to go deep, and accidentally imposing, sensing for receptivity

1:17:58 2s are “honest” when they only see loving motivation — it’s all they can see

1:18:40 - The gift I gave this woman; the pressure 2s put on others, why it feels “creepy; pressure to reciprocate is 2 security, leverage; but this is *not conscious*

1:24:00 What it takes to wake up as a 2; the question, “Why isn’t this working?”; the woman who resisted anything given from the pattern, but stayed interested anyway

1:29:53 What was this like for you?

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#enneagram #enneagram2 #enneagramtypes #enneagramtype2 #enneagraminterview #enneagramcoach

 

In this conversation, we get into some REALLY good stuff:

- Realizing I thought my type was “universal," & how mistyping influences the value you see in the enneagram and the way you think of typology in general
- Realizing I was a 2, shaking and crying, no longer being able to delude myself that I was coming from a purely selfless, loving place
- 2 as a rejection type, not attachment type; “the hope machine” — I don’t believe being loved is possible, but I’m going go out to you anyway, hoping it reflects back to me
- what happens when someone tries to love me, to pierce through my own hopelessness
- what happens when the “image” is pierced through and shattered, and the most sensitive part of you is exposed
- The realization that there is an autonomous heart organ underneath my image
- The trouble of organizing birthdays, when I don’t have anything to offer other than myself
- Watching myself as a 2 therapist — the compulsion to move into others’ psychological space; sensing the other person’s readiness for the work; the beauty of seeing others’ vulnerability
- The heart nourishment of mattering to someone in therapy; when someone’s vulnerability is exposed, it matters how I treat you (in contrast to “the world” where people are numb)
- Watching for when I’m using clients as evidence for my hope machine. “If I can help this person, maybe all is not lost. And maybe my interventions (which “are me”) work!
- Power tripping as “Super Jesus,” the “power of love,”
- Contact with Essential Love when someone really does see me
- 2s talk about doing something out of selflessness, they’re usually honest, since that’s all they’re aware of (!)
- not seeing the contradiction between being selfless and morally indignant that my efforts aren’t reciprocated
- the path to ego transparency — marshall rosenberg & NVC; being with spontaneous emotions that aren’t necessarily shaped by my image with therapist help; - the vigilance of image types
- 2s being creepy & the pressure they put on you to reciprocate; “leverage”

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]]>Kajabi-2148371312Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:00:00 -050001:31:12falsefull#2: David Gray (SP/SX 9w1 974) — Gathering Himself, Online Combativeness, and the Diffusion of Identity#2: David Gray (SP/SX 9w1 974) — Gathering Himself, Online Combativeness, and the Diffusion of IdentityDavid Gray is the most original voice in the Enneagram world today. His impressionistic, symbolic, elemental thinking style has produced utterly fresh insights about the Instincts, trifixation, typing processes, and the Enneagram symbol itself. David kindly emerged from the cave of primordial darkness to subject himself to invasive questioning for about an hour. His purple shirt on purple background is a genius artistic statement that only certain types will be able to understand.

You can buy David's "trifix" booklet on Enneagrammer.com, which he co-runs. David also co-hosts the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast and the Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where you can watch the Enneagrammer team type a celebrity live.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Enneagrammer Website & Typing Services
Watch David & crew type celebrities in realtime in their member's area

David's Personal Enneagram Site
Check out David's Trifix Booklet

The Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast (BHE)

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Timestamps
00:00 Intro to David Gray 
3:06: What it's like to be introduced; being “located” as a 9
6:52 Enneagram origin story, seeing that each author has their own subjective “take” on the Enneagram
12:12 The difficulty of discipline and writing a book as a 974 trifix; The difficulty of writing the book as a type 9; plus the the overlapping, spread out, nature of David’s ideas, “where do you start?” David’s discovery of the instinct’s relations to the 4 elements
17:56 “Rambling” nature of 9s; "gathering” himself to write and getting clear on “what am I saying right now?”
19:36 Unpacking David’s trifix and instinctual stack in David’s way: 974, SP/SX; being a withdrawn body type, “doing body internally” 
26:12 Why David looked at trifix, given it’s not really “Enneagram mainstream”
29:36 David’s use of language, creating an “experiential landscape” with words, wanting people to experience resonance in their body of what I’m trying to say, to have their own creative experience with it
36:00 How David (doesn't) experiences his "identity" as a social blind, "heart-last" 9
41:30 David's non-Enneagram work, his daily work/break rhythm as a 9
51:10 "What do you get out of withdrawing?"- a way to get my own way without speaking up to get my own way; on absorbing others’ energetic field
55:20 On deadlines, getting the book out; self-pres distractions
58:40 Inner work, Rage “localizing” me; Observing my patterns, identifying with the observer more than the pattern. Internal Family Systems. Family Constellations. 
1:03:45 David’s combativeness online, 9s as a repressed rage type
1:07:00 - The "practice" of being on camera, speaking, "spotlight on me" as a 9

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]]>David Gray is the most original voice in the Enneagram world today. His impressionistic, symbolic, elemental thinking style has produced utterly fresh insights about the Instincts, trifixation, typing processes, and the Enneagram symbol itself. David kindly emerged from the cave of primordial darkness to subject himself to invasive questioning for about an hour. His purple shirt on purple background is a genius artistic statement that only certain types will be able to understand.

You can buy David's "trifix" booklet on Enneagrammer.com, which he co-runs. David also co-hosts the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast and the Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where you can watch the Enneagrammer team type a celebrity live.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Enneagrammer Website & Typing Services
Watch David & crew type celebrities in realtime in their member's area

David's Personal Enneagram Site
Check out David's Trifix Booklet

The Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast (BHE)

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Timestamps
00:00 Intro to David Gray 
3:06: What it's like to be introduced; being “located” as a 9
6:52 Enneagram origin story, seeing that each author has their own subjective “take” on the Enneagram
12:12 The difficulty of discipline and writing a book as a 974 trifix; The difficulty of writing the book as a type 9; plus the the overlapping, spread out, nature of David’s ideas, “where do you start?” David’s discovery of the instinct’s relations to the 4 elements
17:56 “Rambling” nature of 9s; "gathering” himself to write and getting clear on “what am I saying right now?”
19:36 Unpacking David’s trifix and instinctual stack in David’s way: 974, SP/SX; being a withdrawn body type, “doing body internally” 
26:12 Why David looked at trifix, given it’s not really “Enneagram mainstream”
29:36 David’s use of language, creating an “experiential landscape” with words, wanting people to experience resonance in their body of what I’m trying to say, to have their own creative experience with it
36:00 How David (doesn't) experiences his "identity" as a social blind, "heart-last" 9
41:30 David's non-Enneagram work, his daily work/break rhythm as a 9
51:10 "What do you get out of withdrawing?"- a way to get my own way without speaking up to get my own way; on absorbing others’ energetic field
55:20 On deadlines, getting the book out; self-pres distractions
58:40 Inner work, Rage “localizing” me; Observing my patterns, identifying with the observer more than the pattern. Internal Family Systems. Family Constellations. 
1:03:45 David’s combativeness online, 9s as a repressed rage type
1:07:00 - The "practice" of being on camera, speaking, "spotlight on me" as a 9

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]]>Kajabi-2148371314Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:00:00 -050001:08:54falsefull#1: Emeka Okorafor (SX/SP 8w7 854) — Typing Others, Not Knowing I'm Being Provocative, Advice for Relationships with 8s#1: Emeka Okorafor (SX/SP 8w7 854) — Typing Others, Not Knowing I'm Being Provocative, Advice for Relationships with 8sEmeka Okorafor is a Sexual 8, and he is a world expert in Enneagram typing. He co-runs Enneagrammer.com, co-hosts the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast and the Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where you can watch the Enneagrammer team type a celebrity live.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Enneagrammer Website & Typing Services
Watch Emeka & crew type celebrities in realtime in their member's area

The Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast (BHE)

Timestamps: 
00:00 Intro to What It's Like To Be You 
1:35 Intro to Emeka 
6:05 Emeka's Enneagram Origin Story
8:27 Learning as an 8, needing it to be “real," alive; discovering my own type 
15:30 "I'm gonna leave a mark on you"; Creating a before and after; "making it happen" 
18:27 Ppl getting upset, cutting through bullshit as an 8 teacher, making the Enneagram unignorable
21:40 The inner experience of 8ness right now 
25:00 Feeling "separate from my experience"
28:00 "Getting high on my own momentum"
30:07 Inner work for me as an 8: getting in touch with my heart, letting people in, allowing things to happen (not “making” them happen)
36:00 On boundaries, the terror of being violated; the inner circle, "my box"
39:27 8s and Protectiveness
43:00 Instinctual understanding of consequences, intimidation; Having others rely on me while I’m not relying on them
45:42 Not realizing I'm being provocative or pushing people into psychological corners
51:23 #nota4 and why it matters; common delusions in typology circles
55:09 On typing people, and the controversy of telling someone their type; the skill of seeing type
1:02:00 - the wisdom and soul of the 8; making something invisible visible; making it “real”
1:08:44 - Advice for 8s, allowing for things to happen
1:12:00 - Advice if you have an 8 boss, partner, friend, etc; not triggering the “well I didn’t care about this anyway” response 
1:20:00 Conclusion & Where to find Emeka

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]]>Emeka Okorafor is a Sexual 8, and he is a world expert in Enneagram typing. He co-runs Enneagrammer.com, co-hosts the Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast and the Dark Arts Academy -- weekly classes where you can watch the Enneagrammer team type a celebrity live.

WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE

Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School

Enneagrammer Website & Typing Services
Watch Emeka & crew type celebrities in realtime in their member's area

The Big Hormone Enneagram Podcast (BHE)

Timestamps: 
00:00 Intro to What It's Like To Be You 
1:35 Intro to Emeka 
6:05 Emeka's Enneagram Origin Story
8:27 Learning as an 8, needing it to be “real," alive; discovering my own type 
15:30 "I'm gonna leave a mark on you"; Creating a before and after; "making it happen" 
18:27 Ppl getting upset, cutting through bullshit as an 8 teacher, making the Enneagram unignorable
21:40 The inner experience of 8ness right now 
25:00 Feeling "separate from my experience"
28:00 "Getting high on my own momentum"
30:07 Inner work for me as an 8: getting in touch with my heart, letting people in, allowing things to happen (not “making” them happen)
36:00 On boundaries, the terror of being violated; the inner circle, "my box"
39:27 8s and Protectiveness
43:00 Instinctual understanding of consequences, intimidation; Having others rely on me while I’m not relying on them
45:42 Not realizing I'm being provocative or pushing people into psychological corners
51:23 #nota4 and why it matters; common delusions in typology circles
55:09 On typing people, and the controversy of telling someone their type; the skill of seeing type
1:02:00 - the wisdom and soul of the 8; making something invisible visible; making it “real”
1:08:44 - Advice for 8s, allowing for things to happen
1:12:00 - Advice if you have an 8 boss, partner, friend, etc; not triggering the “well I didn’t care about this anyway” response 
1:20:00 Conclusion & Where to find Emeka

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]]>Kajabi-2148371315Tue, 07 Jun 2022 15:00:00 -050001:23:07falsefull