Wallowing in the Shallows

WITS chats 'Project Hail Mary' | dir. Phil Lord and Christopher Miller | 2026

Thu, 09 Apr 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about 'Project Hail Mary.' If the audio is weird, we apologize but we recorded right after we left the theater and have done minimal editing to keep it real, i.e., like you're listening to us talk about the movie live. We still manage to include spoilers.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Brothers in Arms clip | Dire Straits | Brothers in Arms (Official Music Video) | 23 Feb 2010 | YouTube

Project Hail Mary clip

Amazon MGM Studios | Project Hail Mary | “Roommates” - Official Clip | 12 Mar 2026 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chat 'Dogma' | dir. Kevin Smith | 1999

Sat, 04 Apr 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the 1999 film, 'Dogma,' directed by Kevin Smith. We talk the impact of the movie on us, our thoughts about beliefs and organized religion (don't come for us--it's our opinions based on our personal experiences). We tangent, so be prepared.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis-Pavlov-Music from Pixabay

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Explicit

It's a Kevin Smith film. We cuss. We talk about some controversial things.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Welcome

00:36 Overview of Dogma and Its Significance

01:17 Cast and Characters: Angels, Humans, and Mythology

03:08 Kevin Smith's Inspiration and Creative Process

07:01 Kevin Smith's Personal Connection to Dogma

07:47 Favorite Scenes and Character Highlights

11:54 Casting Choices and Actor Insights

16:26 Symbolism: Loki as Angel of Death

19:57 Humor, Homages, and Cultural References

23:17 Themes of Faith, Doubt, and Organized Religion

34:36 Visual and Symbolic Elements in the Film

40:18 Metatron and Divine Representation

46:09 Philosophical Questions and Ethical Dilemmas

51:06 Final Thoughts and Personal Reflections

02:21 Kevin Smith's Approach to Religious Themes

04:41 Character Deep Dive: Bethany and Serendipity

09:41 Symbolism and Easter Eggs in the Film

14:19 Social Issues and Cultural Commentary

19:07 Behind-the-Scenes Insights and Anecdotes

23:43 The Impact of 'Dogma' on Pop Culture

26:28 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

Sources

WITS chats 'pina' | dir. Wim Wenders | 2011

Fri, 27 Mar 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue their Recommended By series, Picks from the Criterion Closet, with the 2011 documentary, 'pina.' Recommended by Katya Zamolodchikova, we venture on a journey to interpret contemporary dance. As self-professed dance Luddites, we can only discuss our interpretations using our meager knowledge of the language of dance. Forgive us if we get it entirely wrong.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis Pavlov music on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Clip

Katya Zamolodchikova name pronunciation | RuPaul’s Drag Race | Best of Katya | 9 Feb 2021 | YouTube

Print Source

Climenhaga, Royd. 2018. Pina Bausch. 2nd edition. New York: Routledge, Taylor and Francis Group.

Explicit

Some of our dance interpretation touches on various types of physical and sexual abuse.

Sources

The Telegraph | Director wim Wenders on his film Pina | 21 Apr 2011

WITS chats 'Waking Ned Devine' | dir. Kirk Jones | 1998

Thu, 19 Mar 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the 1998 Kirk Jones film, 'Waking Ned Devine." We discuss community, morality, and our mutual love of Maurice.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis-Pavlov-Music on Pixabay

Clip

Kev Walsh | Waking Ned Devine (1998) BluRay | 17 Dec 2024 | YouTube

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Explicit

We somehow wander into a discussion of Vladimir Nabokov's novel, Lolita. By default, adult topics are addressed.

Sources

WITS chats 'The Watermelon Woman' | dir. Cheryl Dunye | 1996

Fri, 13 Mar 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat their next Recommended By flick from the Criterion Collection, 'The Watermelon Woman.' We discuss issues related to the social construct of 'race,' queerness, identity, and white privilege and gatekeeping.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Clips

Minnie Riperton clip: Minnie Riperton - Topic | 7 Aug 2018 | ‘Lovin’ You’ | YouTube

'The Watermelon Woman' | Criterion Channel

Explicit

We talk about sex, bay-bee.

Sources

WITS chats 'Hamnet' | dir. Chloe Zhao | 2025

Thu, 05 Mar 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the recent Golden Globe winner for Best Motion Picture - Drama and Oscar Best Picture nominee, 'Hamnet.' Spoiler alert: we love it!

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis Pavlov Music from on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Leaves Rustling in Wind: Sound Effect by storegraphic from Pixabay

Hamnet Clip

Zhao, Chloé and Maggie O'Farrell. 2025. Hamnet. Directed by Chloé Zhao. Los Angeles: Focus Features. Streaming on Fandango, February 2026. [1:03.45-1:05.04]

Sources

WITS chats 'Black Girl' (1966)

Thu, 26 Feb 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori don't chat, we dive deep into Ousmane Sembene's 1966 classic, 'Black Girl.' This is the next installment of our Recommended By series based on the Criterion Collection Closet Picks. In this podcast, we get political as we discuss colonialism, post-colonialism, economic slavery, racism, and abuse.

For the first time, we are spoiler-free for the first 25-ish minutes because we encourage you to listen to us for the spoiler-free segment, go watch the film if you haven't seen it, then come back and listen to the rest of the podcast. We were so engrossed in our conversation that we forgot to pick both our Shining Star and Spotlight Scene.

PS: We mention in the podcast that two of the characters don't have names. It was only in editing the podcast that we found out they do. Our bad.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Movie Clips

Benjamin James | 21 Feb 2020 | Black Girl (1966) | YouTube

Sound Effect

Countdown | by freesound_community from Pixabay

Restricted Sources

"Senegal." In Political Handbook of the World 2022-2023, edited by Tom Lansford, Jorge Brown, Jack Covarrubias, David Harms Holt, and Robert J. Pauly, Jr., 1523-1535. Vol. 2. Thousand Oaks, CA: CQ Press, 2023. Gale eBooks (accessed February 16, 2026). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX8521500175/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=bd4c4fb9.

Klein, Martin. "France's African Colonies." In Encyclopedia of Western Colonialism since 1450, edited by Thomas Benjamin, 490-493. Vol. 2. Detroit, MI: Macmillan Reference USA, 2007. Gale eBooks (accessed February 16, 2026). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX2587300177/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=757682b4.

"Senegal." In New Encyclopedia of Africa, 2nd ed., edited by John Middleton and Joseph C. Miller, 383-395. Vol. 4. Detroit, MI: Charles Scribner's Sons, 2008. Gale eBooks (accessed February 16, 2026). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3049000597/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=39b4b36d.

WITS chats a Double Feature | The Pink Panther (1963) & A Shot in the Dark (1964)

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Blake Edwards' 1963 classic, 'The Pink Panther,' and its follow-up, the 1964, 'A Shot in the Dark.' In our most spoiler-free episode to date, we discuss Peter Sellers' life, scenes that made us laugh the most, what didn't age well, and what was ludicrous. We kind of sing too.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music by Denis-Pavlov-Music on Pixabay

Movie Clip

ctpatant | A Shot in the Dark | 27 Jan 2012 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats 'Evolution' | dir. Ivan Reitman (2001)

Thu, 12 Feb 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori celebrate the anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth by chatting about the 2001 flick, 'Evolution.' We discuss some high points and some low points, overuse a couple of catch-phrases, and question some of the science.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Smooth Criminal clip: Michael Jackson | Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal (Official Video - Shortened Version) | 2 October 2009 | YouTube

Evolution clip: UltraScheiben | EVOLUTION Seann William Scott Bird Calling | 27 Aug 2012 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats 'Best in Show' | REPLAY

Thu, 05 Feb 2026 00:15:00 -0700

We're re-releasing our episode for 'Best in Show' in honor of Catherine O'Hara.

We'll be back next week with a new episode!

WITS chats 'Black Narcissus' (1947)

Sun, 01 Feb 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about their second recommendation from the Criterion Closet Picks, 'Black Narcissus.' Recommended by director Edgar Wright, we discuss British colonialism, emotional repression, and the many mirror representations between characters.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis-Pavlov-Music | Pixabay

Twinkle Twinkle Little Star | by Maksym Dudchyk Music | Pixabay

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Movie Clip

Shout! Studios | Black Narcissus Full Movie | 13 Nov 2025 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats 'Casablanca'

Thu, 22 Jan 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the 1942 classic film, 'Casablanca.' We cover some production history as well as character development and plot points. We chat some about the continuing relevance of the film.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Typing: from Pixabay

Movie Clip

Raindog's House of Oddities | Shocked that Gambling Is Happening - Casablanca (1942) | 16 Jun 2022 | YouTube

Sources

Casablanca Documentary. Warner Bros. Pictures, presenter, Julius J Epstein, Philip G Epstein, Howard Koch, Hal B Wallis, Michael Curtiz, Humphrey Bogart, et al. 1942. Casablanca. Burbank, CA: Warner Bros. Pictures. http://digitalcampus.swank.com/0011026.

WITS chats Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' | 1995

Thu, 15 Jan 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and returning guest host, Louise, chat the 1995 movie, 'Persuasion.' We can't believe it took us this long to get around to Austen!

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

'Persuasion' clip

Mistress of Pemberley | "Frederick Wentworth's Letter (full scene) - Persuasion (1995) ES/PT-BR | 15 Dec 2024 | YouTube

WITS chats The Criterion Collection | 'Room with a View' (1995)

Fri, 09 Jan 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori begin a new series: Recommended By: Recommendations from the Criterion Closet. This week, our movie, "Room with a View,' is recommended by Nick Offerman. We rave about characters, performances, and production.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Sources

Clip Source: Dwyer, Elizabeth | ‘Room with a View Clip’ | 19 Sep 2012 | YouTube | https://youtu.be/8eE7FR8q8tg?si=BMWElU1NQ0TjHQ_z

WITS chat Diner (1982)

Thu, 01 Jan 2026 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori ring in the New Year chatting about the 1982 movie, Diner, written and directed by Barry Levinson. We discuss gender dynamics and the transition into adulthood, while Tori waxes nostalgic about how the movie relates to her family. We get into some character development, the portrayal of women, and the cultural context of the 1950s.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay

Typing: Sound Effect from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Scrooge-Off 2025 | Round 4

Thu, 25 Dec 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori along with guest host, Debra, wind up Scrooge-Off 2025. This final round finds us discussing the 1984 'A Christmas Carol,' starring George C. Scott and the 1951 version starring Alastair Sim. Who will take the crown?

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

A Christmas Tale by Aleksey Voronin on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Scrooge-Off 2025 | Round 3

Thu, 18 Dec 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined by Debra to delve into Round 3 of the 2025 Scrooge-Off. This episode's contenders are the Patrick Stewart and George C. Scott. And, the winner is...

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

A Christmas Tale by Aleksey Voronin on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Scrooge-Off 2025 | Round 2

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Debra to continue with Scrooge-Off 2025. Guy Pearce returns after trouncing Reginald Owens in Round 1. Pearce is up against Patrick Stewart. Who will emerge the winner of Round 2?

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

A Christmas Tale by Aleksey Voronin on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Scrooge-Off 2025 | Round 1

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined by Christmas movie aficionado, Debra, in our first ever Scrooge-Off. We pit a couple of versions of "A Christmas Carol" in a head-to-head competition. Round 1 finds the 1938 Reginald Owens version against the 2019 Guy Pearce version. The 2019 version takes us to some unexpected, dark places. Merry Christmas?

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music

A Christmas Tale by Aleksey Voronin available on Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch available on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chat the Star Wars Holiday Special 1978

Thu, 27 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined by Nancy and Jeff to watch and chat about the 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special. The first part of the podcast has some of our live reactions and the last part is our discussion. If you want to skip the reaction, the discussion starts at 22:00.

1978 Star Wars Holiday Special clips

Star Wars Coffee | The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978 (Full) (No Commercials)| 9 Oct 2021 | YouTube

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

A Christmas Tale by Amaksi free on Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Marvel Zombies | S1 E3-4

Sun, 23 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori wrap up their chat about Marvel Zombies season 1. We discuss the animation style, character connections, and the intense themes of hope and despair. We love it.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Celebratory Music: #Uppbeat (free for Creators!) | Upbeat.io

B’Max | Thor Ragnarok | It's my birthday | 23 Jan 2018 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats Marvel Zombies | S1 E1-2

Thu, 20 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Marvel Zombies, season 1, episodes 1 and 2. We mispronounce several names and get on a tangent about Mahershala Ali. We skim the major themes, ponder the various characters, discuss the animation design, and school ourselves on zombie lore.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Mocktober | Spinal Tap II

Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Spinal Tap II: The End Continues. We compare it to the original and talk about the scenes and cameos that we liked. We bring in some information from a number of interviews with the cast.

WITS chats Mocktober | This Is Spinal Tap

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sources

WITS chats Mocktober | What We Do in the Shadows

Thu, 30 Oct 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the mockumentary, "What We Do in the Shadows." We discuss the origins of the movie, chose a word to describe each of the main characters, vampire tropes, and production style. Throughout the podcast we talk about what we loved about the production style and revel in the mundanity.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effects

Flight of the Conchords clip: Kenneth Lloyd | Flight of the Conchords - The Most Beautiful Girl (in the Room) | Jan 30, 2011 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats Mocktober | Incident at Loch Ness

Thu, 23 Oct 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the 2003 mockumentary, 'Incident at Loch Ness.' We discuss cameos, characters, the funny, and we tangent. We land on "...it's a movie."

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effect

'We Interrupt' by Otto from Pixabay

News clip: Alaska’s New Source | The Winner of Fat Bear Week 2025 Has Been Chosen | Sep 30, 2025 | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats Mocktober | This Is Spinal Tap

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue Mocktober with a chat about the iconic mockumentary, 'This Is Spinal Tap.' We discuss each of the band members and highlight our favorite lines. We also manage a tangent about David Hasselhoff. In general, we laugh a lot.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

WITS chats Best in Show | Mocktober 2025

Thu, 09 Oct 2025 00:15:00 -0700

WITS starts off Season 3 with Mocktober, a series of chats about mockumentaries. Rebecca and Tori begin with the classic 'Best in Show.' We take a wee dive into each of the main characters (including the dogs) and rave about Fred Willard's performance.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sources

WITS re-releases Shakespeare | Richard III

Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Hello WITSy people, Rebecca and Tori have work and family obligations to take care of this week, so we are re-releasing our Richard III episode to wind up Shakespeare in September. In the second week of October, we'll be back with new episodes created especially for the month of October and in November and December, we'll be doing some Jane Austen and a few Christmas podcasts. We hope you'll join us!

WITS chats Shakespeare | Hamlet

Sun, 21 Sep 2025 00:15:00 -0700

We're late posting our latest episode...life. What can we say. This week, Louise joins us again to chat about two productions of Shakespeare's 'Hamlet,' Grigori Kozintsev's 1964 and Gregory Doran's 2009 productions. We talk about the different approaches the directors and actors take, what our expectations are for productions of Hamlet, and relate Hamlet to 'Gilligan's Island' (iykyk).

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | by Mid-Air Machine; licensed under a Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License available on Free Music Archive

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Shakepeare's "Much Ado About Nothing"

Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and special guest, Louise, return to chat about the 1993 Kenneth Branaugh and 2013 Josh Whedon productions of Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing." We delve into some character analysis, performance comparisons, and Shakespearean themes. We discuss gender dynamics, visual aesthetics of the adaptations, and identify our spotlight scenes and shining stars. And, we have a lot of fun.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine | licensed under a Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License at Free Music Archive

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Orchestral win | Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Cinematic Logo-DHcz | Sound Effect by Dzianis Honczarow from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Shakespeare's 'Julius Caesar'

Thu, 04 Sep 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and special guest, Louise, chat about two different productions of Shakespeare's 'Julius Caesar,' the 1953 Joseph Mankiewicz classic film and the 2019 Phyllida Lloyd all-female cast based on the 2012 adaptation. We compare the two productions, touching on what we identify as high and low points in each, character relationships, and production.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine; from Free Music Archive

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Chief of War | Season 1 Episodes 3-5

Thu, 28 Aug 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue their wallow in the Apple TV+ series, Chief of War. We chat about the politics, colonialism, cultural representation, and the various personal relationships. Rebecca continues to bring in the wisdom of the hosts of the podcast Feathers and Fire.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

Sound Effects

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by Dzianis Honczarow from Pixabay

Print Source

Linnekin, Jocelyn. "Hawaiians." In Oceania, 95-97. Vol. 2 of Encyclopedia of World Cultures. New York, NY: Macmillan Reference USA, 1996. Gale eBooks (accessed August 24, 2025).

Sources

WITS chats Ironhearat | Season 1 Episodes 3-6

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori finish Marvel's series, Ironheart, episodes 3-6. We discuss representation, moral choices, and the impact of father figures. We delve into our thoughts about criticism of the show, and we talk about Casey Kasem.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay

Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by Dzianis Honczarow from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Chief of War | Season 1 Episodes 1 & 2

Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about AppleTV's 'Chief of War.' We apologize for butchering the Hawai'ian names. We're going to practice. We talk some of the buzz about the series, work on getting the characters' relationships and story lines straight, and discuss what is historically accurate and inaccurate based on our own research and that of the podcast, Feathers and Fire.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

Sources

WITS chats Ironheart | Season 1 Episodes 1 & 2

Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Marvel's Ironheart, season 1, episodes 1 and 2. We do make a bit of social commentary so if that's not your jam, we understand. We discuss casting, characters, along with strong and weak points. Overall, we both enjoyed the first two episodes.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Marvel | The Fantastic 4: First Steps

Thu, 31 Jul 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the newest Fantastic 4 flick, 'The Fantastic 4: First Steps.' We introduce a couple of new segments to the podcast (we experiment, what can we say). We do a little comparison with the older Fantastic 4 movies, discuss the character dynamics, and educate ourselves a little on the comics.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Interstitial music generated by Vozart.ai

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Murderbot | Season 1 Episode 10

Thu, 24 Jul 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori wind up their wallow in Apple TV's Murderbot. We chat about how we feel about the final episode and spend some time doing a character arc review. We discuss what we hope to see in Season 2.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effect

Crickets | Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay

Sources

All Systems Red Summary And Themes By Martha Wells

WITS chats Murderbot | Season 1 Episodes 8-9

Thu, 17 Jul 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat episodes 8 and 9 of the Apple TV series, Murderbot. We discuss the differences between the two episodes and the novella and touch on what we consider the high points. We also try to figure out when Murderbot began to obtain his humanity.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

WITS chats Star Wars Rogue One & Andor Season 2 Wrap-Up

Thu, 10 Jul 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Tori is joined by Nancy and Jeff to chat about Rogue One post-Andor and wrap-up their discussion of Andor season 2. We go off the rails a couple of times, but manage to convey our thoughts about how Rogue One was different after the Andor series.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Murderbot | Season 1 Episodes 5-7

Wed, 02 Jul 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue their wallow in the Apple+ series, Murderbot. We chat about differences between the series and the novella, especially Leebeebee. We dive into a discussion about Arada's and Ratthi's character development.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sources

Nerdy Show | 20June2025 | Murderbot Season 1Episode 7 Ending Explained | Murderbot vs. Grathin | YouTube

WITS chats Murderbot | Season 1 Episodes 3-4

Thu, 05 Jun 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Murderbot season one, episodes 3 and 4. We discuss how the TV adaptation expands upon the original novella, adding depth to the characters and themes. We begin a discussion of the ethics of the fabrication of sentient units and broach the philosophical question about what it means to be human. Tori would like to mention that she is aware that "indentured servitudes" is not a thing and that she should have said servants.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sound Effect

A Few Moments Later | Ms Nonette | Oct. 4, 2020 | YouTube

Sources

The Parting Shot with H Alan Scott | May 14, 2025 | Alexander Skarsgård Says Being ‘Emotionally Unavailable’ Prepared Him for ‘Murderbot’

WITS chats MurderBot | Season 1 Episodes 1-2

Thu, 29 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca is back from vacation and we talk about Apple TV's MurderBot, starring Alexander Skarsgård. We discuss the series in comparison to Martha Wells' novella, All Systems Red, the source material for the series. We delve into some key character elements that are rarely seen on television: neurodivergence and polyamory.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Sources

WITS chats Andor | Season 2 Episodes 10-12

Sat, 24 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Tori, Nancy, and Jeff wrap up their chat about Andor. In this episode, we discuss the final episodes of Andor Season 2, focusing on the weight of choices and the impact of loss. We also get into discussions about loyalty, power dynamics, and the consequences of character actions and decisions. We chat about the use of humor, tension, and production choices that enhance the depth of the narrative, and the new standards that Andor season 2 set in TV storytelling.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Star Wars' Andor | Season 2 Episodes 7-9

Sun, 18 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Tori, Nancy, and Jeff continue their chat about Andor season 2, episodes 7-9. We discuss the World War II references, and vibes from movies such as 'Casablanca and 'Close Encounters.' We spend a bit of time talking about the amazing performances and the excellent production. This arc made us have all the feels.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Star Wars Andor | Season 2 Episodes 4-6

Thu, 08 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Tori, Nancy, and Jeff chat episodes 4-6 of Andor. We delve into the moral ambiguities of the characters, the rising tensions within the galaxy, and the consequences of characters' actions. We are into the intricate character dynamics and brilliant directing in these latest episodes.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Star Wars Day

Sun, 04 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Jeff, Nancy, and Tori commemorate Star Wars Day while Rebecca is on vacation. We play a version of bang, marry, kill and chat a little about the recent Star Wars Celebration.

May the 4th be with you!

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Baa Baa Black Sheep-Star Wars Mash Up | editingsithlord | YouTube

WITS chats Star Wars Andor | Season 2 Episodes 1-3

Thu, 01 May 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca is on vacation, but Tori, Jeff, and Nancy chat about Andor season 2, episodes 1-3. We discuss the strength of the character arcs in the episodes and ponder if anyone will change sides during the season. Shakespearean influence is identified as are some vibes from other science fiction properties like 'BSG,' 'Independence Day,' and 'Star Trek.' We work on getting the timeline straight--what events are happening in these episodes in comparison to other events that are happening in other Star Wars properties. We are enjoying the season so far and are excited to see what happens next.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sources

New Rock Stars | Andor Season 2 Premiere Breakdown! | YouTube

WITS chats Shakespeare's 'The Tempest' | 2010 adaptation by Julie Taymor

Fri, 25 Apr 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined once again by Louise for the last episode of this Shakespeare series. We have some conflicting opinions about the play as we delve into characters and performances. Colonialism, power dynamics, and the impact of casting choices on the portrayal of characters are all topics of conversation. Because Russell Brand is one of the actors, we touch on his recent legal issues.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine | Free Music Archive

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

The Tempest Quote from the 2010 adaptation by Julie Taymor | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats Shakespeare's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' | 1968 and 2016 productions

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Louise discuss two productions of Shakespeare's 'Midsummer Night's Dream'—the 1968 Royal Shakespeare Company version and the 2016 adaptation directed by David Kerr. We explore these productions of Shakespeare's 'A Midsummer Night's Dream', focusing on character analyses, particularly of Bottom and Theseus, and the dynamics of love and friendship within the story. We make some pop culture connections such as Dr. Who, Hannibal Lecter, and 'The Wizard of Oz.'

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the way | Mid-Air Machine | Free Music Archive

The Vipers Skiffle Group. 1957. Non-Commercial-NoDerivs 4.0 International. https://archive.org/details/vipers-skiffle-group-dont-you-rock-me-daddy-o

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Shakespeare's King Lear | 2018 Richard Eyre production

Thu, 10 Apr 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and returning guest, Louise, delve into the 2018 production of Shakespeare's King Lear, discussing our personal experiences with the play, character dynamics, and the performances of the cast. We discuss various interpretations that arise from different adaptations and how Eyre's choices of what to cut cause confusion in some of the action. We gush over the performances of (most) of the cast, particularly Thompson, Watson, and Pugh's portrayals of the three sisters.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the Way | by Mid-Air Machine; Free Music Archive

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Print Source

Anderson, John. 2018. 'King Lear' Review: A Timeless Tale with a Modern King; Anthony Hopkins's Lear is a Frightening, Ego-Driven Autocrat in 21st-Century Britain. New York, N.Y.: Dow Jones & Company Inc. https://www.proquest.com/blogs-podcasts-websites/king-lear-review-timeless-tale-with-modern/docview/2112753139/se-2.

Sources

WITS chats Shakespeare's Richard III | 1955 Olivier adaptation

Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and guest host Louise embark on a wallow into Shakespeare in honor of the Bard's April birthday. We delve into the 1955 Laurence Olivier adaptation of Shakespeare's Richard III. We chat about Richard's complex character, the portrayal of women, and the historical context surrounding the play. We discuss production choices like what was cut from the play and the use of color and shadow. We can't help but critique character portrayals, including the miscasting of King Edward and the performance of child actors. We end with some reflections on Olivier's vocal performance and its impact on the overall experience of the play.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Remember the Way | by Mid-Air Machine on the Free Music Archive

Sound Effect

Record Scratch Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 7-8

Thu, 27 Mar 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, Nancy, and Jeff chat about the last two episodes of The Mandalorian season 3. We explore some reactions of YouTube reactors before wallowing in discussions about character development, themes, and some speculation about the upcoming "The Mandalorian and Grogu movie." We get into the reeds when looking at a memorable sock commercial featuring Pedro Pascal. At the end, we express satisfaction with the season ending while looking forward to future developments.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect from Pixabay

More than a few moments | YouTube

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Pedro Pascal | Happy Feet Sock Commercial | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 5-6

Thu, 20 Mar 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Jeff, Nancy, and Tori wade into Season 3, episodes five and six of The Mandalorian. We start with a short reaction to the Andor Season 2 trailer before chatting about the episode. We explore the importance of community and communication in rebuilding Mandalorian culture, the significance of Paz Vizsla's support, and the portrayal of leadership through characters like the Armorer. Moreover, we chat pop culture references and cameos.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 3-4

Thu, 13 Mar 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Jeff and Nancy to chat about episodes 3 and 4 of The Mandalorian season 3. We critique the Republic's dehumanizing practices, G68's manipulative tactics and Pershing's vulnerability. We venture closer to the deep end while discussing Mandalorian theology and their concept of family.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Typing: from Pixabay

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 3 Episodes 1-2

Thu, 06 Mar 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, Jeff, and Nancy explore various themes from The Mandalorian Season 3, episodes 1 and 2, including the humor found in character interactions, the evolution of Navarro City, and the significance of Din Djarin's relationships. We discuss the comedic moments with the Anzellins, touching on the blend of humor and drama in the series, showcasing the talents of the actors involved. We rave about the practical effects and creature design in the Mandalorian series. We also chat about some recent Star Wars news.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sound Effect

Kitchen timer Sound Effect from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Marvel One Shots

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the MCU's One Shots. We discuss how they connect with the movies and television shows, plugging some plot holes and setting up what at the time were future properties.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sing Sing Sing: by Benny Goodman free on Internet Archive

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Captain America | Brave New World

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about their initial reactions to the new Captain America movie, including character utilization and the connections to the broader Marvel universe. We manage to get some Shakespeare into the discussion. Tori apologizes for mispronouncing Giancarlo Esposito's first name; it made Rebecca mispronounce it as well. Tori blames her Spanish lessons.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 6-8

Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the final three episodes of Marvel's What If? We start off a bit off topic with the Fantastic Four teaser trailer. Rebecca schools Tori on the fifth dimension and Marvel Snap. Tori returns the favor with a lesson on "spaghetti" westerns. We debate moral ambiguity, discuss the ethics of observation, and sing a little Ethel Merman.

Tori apologizes for her audio. New set-up didn't work too well.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sound Effects

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Slaps: Sound Effect by freesound_community from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 3-5

Thu, 06 Feb 2025 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori chat about episodes 3, 4, and 5 of Marvel's animated series, What If? We're a bit confused over certain character actions and the pacing of the episodes, but love the mayhem and chaos in episode 4.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Skeleton Crew | Season 1 Episodes 5-8

Thu, 30 Jan 2025 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of 'Wallowing in the Shallows', Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Nancy and Jeff, dive into a detailed discussion of the final episodes of 'Skeleton Crew'. In this conversation, we delve into family dynamics and character growth, and the emotional depth of scenes directed by Bryce Dallas Howard. We bemoan unanswered questions left by the narrative. We learn that Tori continues to love Neel.

Music & Sound Effects

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Print Source

"Elephants: Proboscidea." In Mammals: Volume 4, edited by Catherine Judge Allen, Arthur V. Evans, Melissa C. McDade, Neil Schlager, Leslie A. Mertz, Madeline S. Harris, and Jayne Weisblatt, 808-819. Vol. 17 of Grzimek's Student Animal Life Resource. Detroit, MI: UXL, 2005. Gale eBooks (accessed January 17, 2025). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3447500609/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=e14c8511.

Other Sources

WITS chats What If? | Season 3 Episodes 1-2

Thu, 16 Jan 2025 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the bizarre world of Marvel's 'What If' series, discussing the first two episodes of season three. We explore references to other cinematic works, including 'Apocalypse Now,' and Joseph Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'. We chat a bit about character portrayals, animation styles, and the overall narrative structure of the episodes.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Sound Effect

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats Skeleton Crew | Season 1 Epsiodes 1-4

Mon, 13 Jan 2025 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode, Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Jeff and Nancy, delve into the first four episodes of the Star Wars series 'Skeleton Crew.' We discuss the show's premise, character dynamics, and the balance between Disney's influence and the essence of Star Wars. We also delve into the portrayal of pirates and the dystopian elements that reflect corporate culture. Our conversation also references various nostalgic elements from pop culture. We have a blast speculating about Jod's background and learn that Tori loves Neel.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats 'The Bishop's Wife'

Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori wallow in the classic Christmas film, 'The Bishop's Wife.' We discuss the film's portrayal of angels and the historical context of its release in 1947. We discuss the nuances of relationships portrayed in the film, the significance of Dudley's character, and fruit cocktail.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Christmas Tale | by Amaksi; royalty free from Pixabay

Sources

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 7-8

Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in Shallows, Rebecca, Tori, Jeff, and Nancy, delve into The Mandalorian's season two episodes, 'The Believer' and 'The Rescue.' We touch on the themes of family, sacrifice, and the nature of rebellion versus piracy in the Star Wars universe. We delve into Darksaber lore, personal codes, and the bad a$$ness of several characters like Cara Dune, Fennec, and Moff Gideon. We absolutely love the season finale.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

Reaction Clip

pReview'd | December 18, 2020 | The Mandalorian - Season 2 Eps 8 Reaction | YouTube

Sources

WITS chats Candy Cane Lane

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode, Rebecca and Tori discuss the Amazon MGM Studios film 'Candy Cane Lane' starring Eddie Murphy. We discuss how even though the movie starts out a bit slow, it picks up and mayhem ensues. We rave about the sets and the portrayal of 'The Twelve Days of Christmas.' An enjoyable holiday flick!

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 4-6

Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Nancy and Jeff, delve into the episodes 4-6 of The Mandalorian. We discuss how Mando is still learning how to parent the oh-so-impish, Grogu. We make lots of connections to other Star Wars properties and sci-fi megaflicks like Alien. We RIP James Earl Jones and Carl Weathers. We educate ourselves on important things such as a group of walruses is called a huddle.

WITS chat Noelle

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows, Rebecca and Tori dive into the Disney Plus movie 'Noelle.' We chat about character performances and production design while bemoaning the underutilization of talent and the heavy-handed product placement. However, we ultimately conclude that it is an enjoyable holiday watch, especially for families.

'The First Noel' by Krzysztof Szymanski from Pixabay

Reindeer sound effects: Maktub_ytv. 2023. "Reindeer Sound Effects." YouTube.

Sources

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 2 Episodes 1-3

Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori, along with guests Jeff and Nancy, delve into the intricacies of The Mandalorian Season 2, Episodes 1-3. We talk about our love of Tatooine, the Old Western themes in the show (The Marshal!), and the insight we start to get about Jawas and Tusken Raiders. We converse about fundamentalism and extremism in The Mandalorian universe.

WITS chats Red One

Mon, 02 Dec 2024 00:15:00 -0700

In this bonus holiday edition of 'Wallowing in the Shallows', Rebecca and Tori dive into a review of the 2024 movie 'Red One', featuring Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evans. We discuss our initial impressions, character performances, and the film's entertainment value, while also exploring the thematic elements of Christmas and the lore surrounding figures like Krampus and Grýlla. We chat about the film's climactic moments, character redemption arcs, and the moral complexities presented.

PS - We were having some audio difficulties.

Sound Effect Sources

Record Scratch from Pixabay

Crickets from chieuk on Pixabay

Santa Ho Ho Ho from Cloud10 [Creative Commons 0.0] on Freesound

Print Source

Babb, Stefanie A. "Krampus and Christmas." In They Do What? A Cultural Encyclopedia of Extraordinary and Exotic Customs from around the World, edited by Javier A. Galván, 161-164. Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO, 2014. Gale eBooks (accessed November 15, 2024).

Other Sources

Mythical Factory 2022 Dec 23 MF#56: Grýla, the Christmas Witch [Icelandic folklore] | YouTube

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Retrospective

Fri, 29 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori review season 3 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We discuss character arcs, Jungian archetypes, award some best of thingies, and say farewell to Principal Snyder.

Sad Music by Samuel F. Johanns from Pixabay

Award Music by Denis Maksimov from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episodes 21 & 22

Sun, 24 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Graduation Day. Remarkably, we do not go off on tangents about our own high school graduations. We do engage in debate on icees vs slushies, and rapiers vs sabers vs epeés, and whether the arrow Faith shot into Angel was wooden or not.

Sound Effects

Kitchen timer from Pixabay

SpongeBob Time Cards. 2017. A Few Moments Later | SpongeBob Time Card #8 | YouTube

Sources

K Morgan. 2013. Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Joss Whedon on "Graduation Day" (Season 3) | YouTube

WITS special message

Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Hey, hello peeps. A short announcement from Wallowing in the Shallows. Our Buffy episode will be late this week. We had the mother of all windstorms here in the Pacific Northwest and we lost power and internet a couple of days ago. Of course, that meant we couldn’t get the episode edited and uploaded. Now that power and internet are restored (thanks Seattle Power and Light for busting a##!), and once we get caught up with real-life things like cleaning out the fridge of spoiled goods and, oh, you know, paid work, we’ll get the episode uploaded. Soon we’ll be dropping our holiday episodes so check for those in December. And now all that’s left to do is say bye.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 20

Thu, 14 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat The Prom. We discuss The Break-Up while Rebecca rails against Angel and Tori goes off on Joyce. Winking Girl's friend-watch pays off as she shows up at the prom. Snaps to SGM and David Boreanaz for their acting chops during the break-up scene.

Sources

WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 7-9

Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the final three episodes of Agatha All Along. We rave about episode 7 and discuss if what happened on the road was all Billy or did the women have some agency. We also speculate about the future of Billy and Agatha.

Music

Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music.

The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay

Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 19

Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Choices. We discuss the many choices made in the episode and choose to go on a few tangents about important things such as hard candy and child development theory.

Print Source

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Other Sources

Storytelling song created by Tori using ChatGPT and Suno AI.

Christmas Tale by Amaksi on Pixabay.

WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 4-6

Mon, 04 Nov 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Agatha All Along episodes 4-6. We speculate about what is going on with the story while saying "I don't know" a lot. We identify various vibes we get about other properties like ET and Harry Potter, and agree that we're both enjoying the show.

Sources

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 18

Thu, 31 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Content Advisory: This episode of Wallowing in the Shallows includes discussion of mass shootings and attempted murder. Listener discretion is advised. If you need help, you can contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, by dialing 988. Calls are free and confidential.

Rebecca and Tori chat about Earshot. We do have a longish discussion about school violence, including some history into the 1800s. We also discuss the food babysitters fed us, the definition of a mulligan, Pierce Brosnan, and Othello.

Sources

WITS chats Agatha All Along | Season 1 Episodes 1-3

Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the first three episodes of Marvel Television's 'Agatha All Along.' We make some connections to 'Wandavision' and educate ourselves about comic book Agatha. We explore the trials faced by Agatha's coven and speculate about Teen. Both of us dig the nods to other pop culture properties like the 'Wizard of Oz' and Japanese horror. We're hooked on this show that "nobody knew they wanted."

Sources

Entire History of Agatha Harness | ZapZoomZing | YouTube

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 17

Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Enemies. We once again get into some Jungian theory of personality while discussing Faith's slide into the dark side and debate whether Angel and Faith had sex.

Sources

Retrobox | Dec 10 2012 | YouTube | Kibbles and Bits and Bits (80s)

Waiting for Godot - Wikipedia

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 16

Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Doppelgangland. We get Jungian about Willow's identity crisis and rhapsodize about all of the great quotes in the episode.

Sources

The Passion of the Nerd | Doppelgangland S03E16 - TPN's Buffy Guide | YouTube

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episodes 14 & 15

Sun, 13 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

We're late (sickness and technical problems), but we're finally able to upload this week's episode. Rebecca and Tori chat about Bad Girls and Consequences. We touch on the introduction of a new Watcher, how Faith leads Buffy astray, Scooby dynamics gone off kilter, and how the main differences between the Slayers is clear by the end of the two episodes.

Other References

Chemical Party | addyson99 | YouTube

Bad Girls S03E14 | The Passion of the Nerd | YouTube

Consequences S03E15 | The Passion of the Nerd | YouTube

Sound Effects

Thinking Marimba | by Marlys.aif by ohforheavensake -- License: Attribution 4.0

Suspense music Sound Effect from Pixabay

Announcement Oct. 10

Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Just a short announcement.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 13

Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Zeppo. We talk a bit of history about Zeppo Marx, Xander's spiral, and the undead crew. We cover everything we loved about the structure of the episode.

Resources

Suspense music sound effect from Pixabay

Kitchen timer Sound Effect from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 12

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Helpless. We get into some weighty subjects like toxic masculinity, character relationships, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, and laundry chutes.

Sources

YouTube: Polaroid Camera Sound Effects | needed short | Mar 1 2022

Elizabeth Barrett Browning - Wikipedia

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 11

Thu, 19 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Gingerbread. Fairy tales and witch trials come to Sunnydale.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | S3 E10

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are back from their hiatus and chat Amends to start their second season of WITS. We're trying out something new this season, Storytelling. We'll see how it goes!

Sound Effects

Kitchen timer from Pixabay

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season Review

Sun, 08 Sep 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Acolyte with Nancy and Jeff Tatarek. We cover all the things we liked and didn't like about this Star Wars series.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 9

Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about "The Wish." We welcome Anyanka and the return of The Master. We discuss the differences between a wish-granting vengeance demon and a genie, and animal attraction. We make a connection to vintage Saturday night Live, and have a confusing conversation about Cordelia.

Print Sources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

South, James B., ed. 2003. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale. Chicago (IL): Open Court.

Vlog Source

Passion of the Nerd. 2016. "The Wish: S03E09 | TPN's Buffy Guide. https://youtu.be/vQ5EhmO4YVk?si=rQxW8yd0nTZFcGRr

Sound Effects

Suspense music from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 8

Thu, 08 Aug 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Lovers Walk. We are stoked that Spike returns! We chat about philosophy and Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) while making up some of our own head canon.

Print Resources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

South, James B., ed. 2003. Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Philosophy: Fear and Trembling in Sunnydale. Chicago (IL): Open Court.

Sound Effects

Battlestar Galactica clip: https://youtu.be/EisvM8F_5PE?si=yNFc7pjtpqDxIQpq

Research Links

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 7

Thu, 01 Aug 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Revelations. We discuss important things such as if anyone can go to the bathroom again if they put on the glove of Myneghon and Buffy and Faith's relationship. We also wander into the Olympics, Sir Robert Kane, Koumpounophobia, and Scientomony.

Print Sources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Sound Effects

We Interrupt/Back to Show: RainbowRetro Wolf. 2023. "Freakazoid: We Interrupt Our Program Compilation. YouTube. https://youtu.be/IhQ5_nDuFNU?si=4sbASPezNAUQzzmH.

Typing: Sound Effect from Pixabay.

WITS chats the Marvel Cinematic Universe | Deadpool and Wolverine

Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about their impressions of Deadpool and Wolverine. It is spoiler enriched, so if you haven't seen the movie yet, you might want to wait to listen to us.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 6

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Band Candy. In short, we have a lot of fun with this episode. We discuss Billy Joel, Lycra pants, and the plethora of quotable lines. We debate who is a better choice, Burt Reynolds vs. Tom Selleck?

Resources

Ticking clock and cell phone message sound effects from Pixabay

Rolling Stone Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes ratings

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 8

Fri, 19 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the final episode of The Acolyte Season 1. We get into the biology of multiple births, the Book of Sith, Darth Plagueis, and all the things left hanging. We end by agreeing that we want a second season.

eBook

Wallace, Daniel. 2013. Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side. San Francisco (CA): Chronicle Books.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 5

Thu, 18 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Homecoming. We debate who is meanest in this episode, Buffy or Cordelia, and manage not to wallow in the weeds too much.

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 1 Episodes 7 & 8

Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined again by Nancy and Jeff. We discuss deep questions like how do Jawas make sand crawlers look the same on different planets using different junk and what does the humanization of droids in Star Wars mean for humanity and our expectations of AI.

Music

Star Wars Style Battle music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 7

Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Choices. We discuss whether we were satisfied with answers provided in this episode of the Acolyte and the issues we're having with the Jedi.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 4

Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Content Advisory

This episode of Wallowing in the Shallows includes discussion of intimate partner violence. Listener discretion is advised. If you need help, you can contact the National Domestic Violence hotline at 1.800.799.SAFE (7233), text START to 88788, or chat online with an advocate at https://www.thehotline.org.

Rebecca and Tori chat about Beauty and the Beasts. We discuss Rebecca's 8th grade reading list, learn about William Congreve, and break down the things we really dislike about the episode.

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 1 Episodes 4-6

Mon, 08 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori welcome back Nancy and Jeff to discuss The Mandalorian season 1, episodes 4-6. We discuss guest stars, weak plot points, call backs, beskar diapers, and whether or not Cara Dune was on Endor with Han Solo. We wax philosophical about motivation and Mando's growth as a new "parent."

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 6

Fri, 05 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Teach/Corrupt. We bemoan the fact that we still don't know what happened on Brendok and discuss possible paths the show is going to take.

Clock ticking Sound Effect from Pixabay

Children of the Watch podcast

WITS 4th of July annoucement

Thu, 04 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Hey valued listener, this is Tori, one of your hosts for Wallowing in the Shallows. We won’t be dropping a Buffy episode this week as we take off for the 4th of July and focus on getting the next episode of The Acolyte out. Tune in next week for Buffy Season 3 Episode 4 along with a couple of bonus episodes. Enjoy your holiday!

WITS chats The Mandalorian | Season 1 Episodes 1-3

Mon, 01 Jul 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori are joined by some special guests, including Zebby the dog, to discuss the first three episodes of The Mandalorian Season 1. We get to hear a great Werner Herzog imitation, identify Easter eggs, and simply have a blast talking about the episodes with our guests.

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 5

Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat 'Night.' In this episode, we chat fight scenes and bad reviews. We make up some new words, and Tori tries not to gloat that she called The Potion Master.

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 4

Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about 'Day.' We make further predictions, bemoan the lack of explanation (still), and discuss the symbolism of spirals. We even manage to make a connection to 'The Music Man.'

Sound Effect

Ding Dong Darling | Glow Up

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 3

Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

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Rebecca and Tori chat about 'Faith, Hope, and Trick.' We discuss the origins of the phrase "naked as a j-bird," Boston accents, and the kakisticracy. Tori outs herself as Team Angel.

Kitchen timer Sound Effect from Pixabay

Chris Evans, Rachel Dratch, John Krazinski clip

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 2

Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat 'Dead Man's Party.' We discuss zombies, childhood toys, and Scoobies behaving badly.

Print Source

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Sound Effects

Horn sound effect from Pixabay

Cat sound effect from Pixabay

Dead Man's Party | Buffyverse Wiki | Fandom

WITS chats The Acolyte | Season 1 Episode 3

Fri, 14 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the third episode of 'The Acolyte.' Tori lets us know whether or not she's found a character to latch onto, while Rebecca lays out her new hypothesis about who the Sith lord is.

Sound Effects

Bossa Nova Music by Denis Pavlov from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer | Season 3 Episode 1

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about "Anne." In this episode, we confabulate about the new title sequence, the 'Jaws' franchise, and Tim Conway. We also debate what constitutes an exotic mushroom and we display our ignorance about medieval weapons.

Print Sources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Sound Effects

Bossa Nova Music by Denis Pavlov from Pixabay

Crickets by felix_quinol from Pixabay

Tim Conway on Carol Burnett clip | YouTube

WITS chats The Acolyte | Episode 1 & 2

Fri, 07 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Acolyte episodes 1 and 2. Fair warning...this is a spoiler abundant episode. We try to get the timeline right in our heads. We propose some hypotheses about what is going to happen, and we disagree a little about the series itself.

Star Wars Style March & Battle Music | Humanoide Media Music by Luis Humanoide from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 2 | Retrospective

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori review season 2 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. We bid Jenny Calendar adieu as we discuss the season of love and misogyny, character arcs, award some best of thingies, and Bridgerton. Yes, Bridgerton. We tangent. No surprise.

Print Source

Owens, A. Susan. 1999. "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Vampires, Postmodernism, and Postfeminism. Journal of Popular Film and Television 27 (2): 24-31.

Sad Music by Samuel F. Johanns from Pixabay.

Award Music by Denis Maksimov from Pixabay

Crickets Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay.

Infantilize pronunciation from Merriam Webster

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E21 & E22

Thu, 30 May 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Becoming Parts 1 & 2. We discuss things about The Curse that confuse us. Rebecca goes on a diatribe about palm wounds, and we both go off on a tangent about "What We Do In the Shadows."

Crickets: Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay

Flight of the Conchords clip from YouTube

Print Resource

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E20

Thu, 23 May 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori play, I mean chat Go Fish. We try to find some depth to the episode, but instead tangent on women who swam the English Channel and Russian DNA experiments, especially the Humanzee.

Crowd cheering sound effect from Pixabay

Print Resource

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E19

Thu, 16 May 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about "I Only Have Eyes for You." We leave the shallows to take a deep dive into what we think is an under-appreciated episode.

Print Resource

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Sound Clip

Crickets: Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E18

Thu, 09 May 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Killed by Death. We wax philosophical as we discuss Der Kinderstad, or as we like to call it Der Kinderstalken. We get a bit off the rails as we educate ourselves about schedule 4 drugs and the plagues of Egypt.

Print Resources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Sound Clip

Interrupt this program

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E17

Thu, 02 May 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Passions. Rebecca rages and we manage to bring Laverne and Shirley into the conversation.

Print Source

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E16

Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered. What can we say? We really like this episode.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2 | Buffyverse Wiki | Fandom

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E15

Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:30:00 -0700

Sorry for the late upload. Tori thought she'd already uploaded the episode. oops.

Rebecca and Tori discuss Phases. Werewolf lore and toxic masculinity dominate (MD)our chat. One of us likes the episode despite the MD and one of us does not. Who will it be now?

Forbes article

Spanish Inquisition clip

Print Reference

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E13 & E14

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Surprise and Innocence. We ponder what it would be like to kiss a vampire, remark on the scariness of Dru, the a**-holeyness of Bad Angel, and a bunch of other stuff.

Print Resources

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

Pantalon sound clip: https://youtu.be/p23tUjoUL3w?si=MGQadK6Nb9aXaE1Y

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E12

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Bad Eggs. We are all over the place in this episode...from the vagina dentata to Poltergeist spoilers. Do we actually discuss the Buffy episode? Yes. We chat about the various characters as aspects of Buffy and how mad we get with Joyce.

Print Resource

Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E11

Thu, 28 Mar 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Content Guidance: In this episode we touch on aspects of domestic partner violence. Listen with care.

Rebecca and Tori chat about Ted. We spend a fair amount of time discussing the 1950s vibes, including the patriarchal and misogynistic actions of Ted. Rebecca learns about The Captain and Tennille.

"No" clip from https://youtu.be/XlJuxpeTats?si=A0xZFM0BItuS8Bvq

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E9 & E10

Thu, 21 Mar 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat What's My Line parts 1 and 2. We ship Spike and Drusilla, tangent on ice skating, and discuss Buffy's continuing growth arc. We also spend too much time talking about what season we are according to Color Me Beautiful.

Shakespeare clip: https://youtu.be/LsESSyMnwmU?si=PYsFkqZG55MI-f88

Print Source

Field, Mark. 2013. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E8

Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Dark Age. We run the gamut here, chatting about the Etruscans, the movie "To Sir with Love," and Tiffany Lamps. We play a round of 'anywhere but here,' the results of which will surprise none of our regular listeners. We engage in a debate about the book Giles lent Jenny--was it written by Forrester or Forster.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E7

Thu, 07 Mar 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Lie to Me. We tangent as usual covering childhood in the 1970s and 80s, the Jolly Chimp, Elizabeth Bathory, Jason Isaac, and the origin of "don't drink the Kool-Aid."

Elizabeth Bathory: Biography, Hungarian Countess, Serial Killer

WITS chats The Marvels

Mon, 04 Mar 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat The Marvels. We continually get Kamala's brother's name wrong as we discuss the critics' reaction compared to our own. We also chat about Deadpool, Tom Hiddleston, Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman, Taron Egerton, and Michael Bublé (yes, you read that right).

Record Scratch Sound Effect from Pixabay

New Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E6

Thu, 29 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Halloween. Some references to Good Omens may sound odd, but we recorded this back in August 2023 so take those in context.

This week we wax nostalgic about Halloweens past, while chatting about Larry Bagby III and, surprise, Shakespeare's "The Tempest." We tangent about 1800s women's rights and smells of the past.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E5

Thu, 22 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Content Guidance: In this episode we touch on aspects of sexual violence. Listen with care.

Rebecca and Tori chat about the Reptile Boy. We lament at how Cordy is portrayed in this episode, discuss 1950s social norms, Little Abner, Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida, and Nāgas. As always, we tangent.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E4

Thu, 15 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Inca Mummy Girl. Tori brings in some archaeological deets. Rebecca decides "Peru Man," played by Gil Birmingham, will simply be referred to as Thomas Rainwater for the entirety of the episode (IYKYK). Yeah, we get into cultural appropriation a bit.

Restricted Access Resource

Campbell, Roselyn. "Juanita, the Inca Ice Maiden." In Mummies Around the World: An Encyclopedia of Mummies in History, Religion, and Popular Culture, edited by Matt Cardin, 190-193. Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO, 2015. Gale eBooks (accessed February 14, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX6175800070/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=ac76dd38.

Sound Effect from Pixabay

WITS chats Echo E5

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori wrap up their love affair with the Echo series. The series, and especially this episodes, gave us all the feels. We try to make sense of the Marvel schedule and story lines moving forward and We Tangent.

Restricted Access Resources

Pearce, Edison Doyle. 2021. “Examining the Viability of Native American Stickball as a Comprehensive Indigenous Peace System.” ProQuest Dissertations Publishing.

Welch, Natalie M., Jessica Siegele, Zachary T. Smith, and Robin Hardin. 2021. “Making Herstory: Cherokee Women’s Stickball.” Annals of Leisure Research 24 (1). Routledge: 51–71. doi:10.1080/11745398.2019.1652104. https://digitalcommons.linfield.edu/busnfac_pubs/1/

WITS chats Echo E3 & E4

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue to chat about Echo, this time episodes 3 and 4. We cover the history of the Lighthorsemen, discuss the psychology of various things, ponder the nature of Maya's powers and continue our love affair with the series.

Restricted Access Resources

"Choctaw." In Americas, 3rd ed., 152-157. Vol. 2 of Worldmark Encyclopedia of Cultures and Daily Life. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale, 2017. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3648200147/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=725a5fe6.

Davis, Karl, and Rose Stremlau. "Pitchlynn, Peter (Choctaw, 1806–1881)." In Perdue, Theda, and Michael D. Green, The Columbia Guide to American Indians of the Southeast, 191-192. The Columbia Guides to American Indian History and Culture. New York, NY: Columbia University Press, 2001. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX2537200133/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=03b8a1b0.

"Five Civilized Tribes." In Gale Encyclopedia of U.S. Economic History, 2nd ed., edited by Thomas Riggs, 444-445. Vol. 1. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale, 2015. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3611000320/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=0375dc04.

Fixico, Donald L. "The BIA in the Department of the Interior and Grant’s Peace Policy." In Bureau of Indian Affairs, 23-43. Landmarks of the American Mosaic. Santa Barbara, CA: Greenwood, 2012. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX2721200012/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=250fc8ce.

WITS chats Echo E1 & E2

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat the first two episodes of the Marvel Spotlight show, Echo. We gush, we praise, we applaud (not literally), and rave about the first two episodes. Forgive us if we mispronounce Choctaw words.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E3

Thu, 08 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat School Hard, a thing they know to be true. We continue to question why Sunnydale High has so many axes available on campus and discuss a couple of our pet peeves. We both are chuffed that Spike has arrived and the annoying one esta muerto.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E2

Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori ponder the eternal question, "Why does anyone go into the girls locker room at Sunnydale High?" They also chat about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Mel Brook's "Young Frankenstein," "The Walking Dead," and the 80s classic, "Weird Science."

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E1

Thu, 25 Jan 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat When She Was Bad. This week we chat about an author other than Shakespeare, although that doesn't mean we don't chat about The Bard. We debate Xander's behavior towards Willow and discuss how it is difficult to like Buffy in this episode.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 1 Retrospective

Thu, 18 Jan 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori reflect on Season 1 and bestow some WITS awards for their favorites and bests. We cover the gamut of topics from The Divine Comedy and Shakespeare to "Night of the Comet," the heroines journey, and post-feminist theory.

Citations

Galati, C. A. (2022). Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter...High School? Dante’s Commedia and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The Journal of Popular Film and Television, 50(2), 80–92. https://doi.org/10.1080/01956051.2022.2057406

Owen, A Susan. 1999. “Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Vampires, Postmodernity, and Postfeminism.” The Journal of Popular Film and Television 27 (2). Washington, D. C: Taylor & Francis Inc: 24–31.

Stratton, Jon. 2005. “Buffy the Vampire Slayer: What Being Jewish Has to Do with It.” Television & New Media 6 (2). Thousand Oaks, CA: SAGE Publications: 176–99. doi:10.1177/1527476403255828.

Award Music by Denis Maksimov from Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E12

Thu, 11 Jan 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Prophecy Girl. This week in a surprising move (not), we manage to chat about Shakespeare along with near death experiences, Harry Potter, and the Richter scale. We debate whether Buffy's spring fling dress was appropriate for fighting.

Blooper sound effect from Orange Free Sounds.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E11

Thu, 04 Jan 2024 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Out of Sight, Out of Mind. We run the gamut from physics, to "young people band world," Shakespeare, Charles Galloway, and The Beatles.

The Beatles – Happiness is a Warm Gun Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

WITS Announcement

Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

A short announcement.

WITS chats It's a Wonderful Life

Mon, 25 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Content Advisory: This movie portrays a man contemplating suicide, which is a topic of discussion. Listen with care.

Rebecca and Tori chat It's a Wonderful Life. If you have any expectations for what a podcast about this movie will be, this will probably subvert those expectations. It also is evidence that we should not drink while recording.

Merry Christmas!

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E10

Thu, 21 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat Nightmares. No pithy overview today. Rebecca is traveling and Tori has Holiday COVID.

Monty Python clip

WITS chats Miracle on 34th Street

Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue their holiday wallow with Miracle on 34th Street (yes the black and white version!).

Music

Apache Rock (Instrumental) by Soundatelier on http://www.jamnedo.com cc_standard

Christmas Tale by Amaksi via Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E9

Thu, 14 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat The Puppet Show.

We make all sorts of pop culture references, from Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy to Chucky, Dirty Dancing, Deep Space Nine, and SG-1.

WITS chats Christmas with Holly

Mon, 11 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori continue their holiday wallow with Christmas with Holly. We generalize a lot about parenthood and grand-parenthood. We debate Shelby's motives, nit-pick about the movie's nods to the Pacific Northwest, bemoan Irish dance (sorry), and somehow make a connection to Fiddler on the Roof.

Intro/outro music "Christmas Tale" by Amaksi on Pixabay

Needle scratch sound effect on Pixabay

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E8

Thu, 07 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat I Robot, You Jane. We make the requisite connection to Tarzan, bring in some research from Judaic literature, and gush about Jenny Calendar.

The Cult of Moloch

WITS chats The Holiday

Mon, 04 Dec 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca, Tori, and surprise guest chat about The Holiday. We discuss the actors in the main roles, the supporting characters, along with Dustin Hoffman's cameo. Tori and our guest school Rebecca on the holiday rom-com, while Rebecca brings in a fresh, Christmas-movie novice insight.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E7

Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Angel and somehow are able to bring Carol Burnett into the conversation.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E6

Thu, 23 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Content Guidance: This episode contains discussion of sexual assault and endocannibalism. Listen with care.

Rebecca and Tori chat about The Pack. We bid fare thee well to Principal Flutie and Herbert and try to figure out why paralegals are still in high school. We wonder if this is the first time "Scully" is used as a verb and criticize how certain things are portrayed in the episode.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E5

Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about how to Never Kill a Boy on the First Date. We discuss Owen's contradictory characterization and Rebecca misses finding the iconic quote in the episode.

WITS chats Loki S2E6

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about Glorious Purpose. One of us is quite satisfied with the season ending and one of us is not. We discuss the Ground Hog Day aspects of the episode and Loki's character arc throughout the MCU. We even discuss Cinderella before pondering how this all fits into the MCU moving forward.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E4

Thu, 09 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the Teacher's Pet. We bemoan the loss of Dr. Gregory and the scandalous behavior of Miss French. Joseph Conrad's hero's journey enters the discussion along with a couple of more female-friendly approaches. Somehow we once again figure out how to bring in Mortal Kombat.

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E3

Thu, 02 Nov 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about magic, vocabulary, and creepy dolls in this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows. Rebecca throws out a great hypothesis about Amy's dad and we both wonder about the availability of an axe in the high school.

WITS chats Loki S2 E4

Mon, 30 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat about the Heart of the TVA. We discuss various hypotheses we've heard, sing a little Aretha, and try to describe space ragtime music. Tori apologizes to Warren at CosmicWonder for calling him Wayne throughout this episode. Can we blame lack of coffee for the faux pas?

WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E1 & E2 Rewatch

Thu, 26 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori start their venture into the Buffyverse. While we have both watched the series before, Rebecca has only watched it once a long time ago. In this episode, we chat about Buffy episodes 1 and 2. We discuss an ensemble learning their characters, female empowerment, and how getting chased by vampires can create strong bonds in a relatively short period of time.

WITS chats Loki S2E3

Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori explore 1893 as the Loki episode spurs them to do a wee bit of research into history. We discuss various hypotheses we've heard and throw out a few of our own. We propose a new shot game--every time OB says "we're all going to die," you drink a shot. Rebecca explains thermodynamics for dummies (Tori) and Tori spouts a bit of Carl Sandburg.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E6 Part II | Credits

Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

As promised, here is our breakdown of the opening credit sequence for Good Omens season 2.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E6 Part I

Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Every Day since watching the season finale of Good Omens, Rebecca and Tori have bemoaned the state we find Crowley and Aziraphale at the end of the episode. We're too sad to say more (not really...we say quite a lot!).

Full Episode

WITS chats Loki S2E2

Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori have a palaver about Breaking Brad. From Marvel criticism, to 70s hairstyles, including the history of the mullet, and Tori's Philosophy of Pie, we continue our journey to geekdom.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E5

Thu, 12 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori did not get invited to The Ball, much to their chagrin. In this episode we praise Miranda Richardson's portrayal of Shax and are gleeful that Mrs. Sandwich is back. We disagree about Crowley's reaction to Nina's suggestion that he and Aziraphale are a couple, nonetheless, we love, love, love this episode, especially Jim's coat.

WITS chats Loki S2E1

Mon, 09 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Loki returns! Rebecca and Tori (mostly Rebecca) rhapsodize about Tom Hiddleston and his hair flips in Loki Season 2, episode 1 Ouroboros. We discuss Marvel fatigue (Tori no/Rebecca yes) and ponder the relationship between General Dox and X5 (anyone else find it creepy?). From religion to confusing timelines to how to correctly pronounce Ke Huy Quan and Jörmungandr, we land on how much we loved this episode!

References

"The Worm Ouroboros." In Critical Survey of Science Fiction & Fantasy Literature, edited by Paul Di Filippo, 1360-1362. Vol. 3. Ipswich, MA: Salem Press/Grey House, 2017. Gale eBooks (accessed October 6, 2023). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX7383100846/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=31909f28.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E4

Thu, 05 Oct 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Rebecca and Tori chat "The Hitchhiker and the minisode Nazi Zombie Flesh Eaters." From the tone to the zombies to the toilet humor, we make it clear this is not our favorite episode. We gab about Shax's Hell hair and the continuing Monty Python vibes, while gushing (as usual) about Aziraphale and Crowley's relationship. We apologize for the intermittent crappy audio--we had some connectivity issues.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E3

Thu, 28 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

"I Know Where I Am Going with the minisode The Resurrectionist" has us spending (too much?) time discussing the history of resurrectionists, Mrs. Sandwich's occupation, the myth of the meritocracy, and Social Darwinism. Rebecca takes umbrage with Crowley's ideas about gravity and puts her tinfoil hat on, while Tori laments Aziraphale's actions and Gabriel's purple eyes.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E2

Thu, 21 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

The Clue featuring the minisode A Compantion to Owls has Rebecca and Tori stumped about how to pronounce "Uz." Tori is confused by several things and Rebecca hazards a guess as to what 25 Lazarii equals. We make some surprisingly accurate predictions and unsurprisingly, some inaccurate predictions.

WITS chats Good Omens S2E1

Thu, 14 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

The Arrival of season 2 has Rebecca and Tori making the inevitable comparisons to season 1 and pondering what the next episodes will bring. Tori butchers French (sorry) and confirms that ducks do like peas. We rave over the beauty of Crowley's creation and decide we need to try Eccles cakes. Oh, and we mention that we like Jon Hamm's bum.

WITS chats Good Omens S1E6

Wed, 13 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Ye saga continues as Rebecca and Tori discuss The Very Last Day of the Rest of Their Lives. We take a deep dive into the opening credit sequence (if that's not your jam, jump ahead to 39:40--we said it's a deep dive!). We lament the fate of Hell's usher and learn Tori is a Jane Austen buff. Can either of us rhapsodize more about the badassness of Pepper or Miranda Richardson's acting chops? Probably, but we do enough of it in this episode. We breath a sigh of relief that we find out why Newton named his car Dick Turpin

WITS chats Good Omens S1E5

Tue, 12 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

Aieeee! It's The Doomsday Option. Is it Shadwell's finger or not? Time will tell. Rebecca tries to stop calling Madame Tracy, Lucy, and we both marvel over Madame Tracy's plethora of stuffed animals. We get on a short tangent about Pirates of Penzance and Gary Oldman before we ponder fate versus agency. We both gush about Miranda Richardson's acting chops.

WITS chats Good Omens S1E4

Mon, 11 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

It's Saturday Morning Fun Time! Rebecca and Tori follow-up on Zingiber and the archangel Gabriel and figure out how Tori missed the opening scene. Rebecca debunks herself about Ligur's baby hands, and we discuss excommunication by anathema. We finally connect the Them to the Horsemen.

Hastur la Vista, baby.

WITS chats Good Omens S1E3

Sun, 10 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

WITS' Rebecca and Tori reflect on Hard Times...but, fortunately for listeners, not their own. Tori butchers the Turkish language (sorry!) and attempts a Cartman imitation. Rebecca's love of the Bard is revealed.

WITS chats Good Omens S1E2

Sat, 09 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

WITS' Rebecca and Tori discuss The Book and dive into some not so deep research about religion and Baskin-Robbins. Rebecca catches a Psycho reference and schools Tori on connections between the episode and the opening credits sequence.

WITS chats Good Omens S1E1

Fri, 08 Sep 2023 00:15:00 -0700

In the Beginning, Rebecca and Tori of Wallowing in the Shallows (WITS) chat after re-watching Good Omens season 1 episode 1. We talk Crowley and Aziraphale, quantum mechanics, paleontological dating techniques, witch trials, and a bit of etymology while breaking down the episode.

WITS can be reached at witstvpod@gmail.com.