<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/style.xsl" type="text/xsl"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><atom:link href="https://feeds.captivate.fm/working-together/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title><![CDATA[Working Together]]></title><podcast:guid>f955b3a0-13fb-57df-a085-a85b7d1c9824</podcast:guid><lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 09:30:03 +0000</lastBuildDate><generator>Captivate.fm</generator><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><copyright><![CDATA[Copyright 2026 Brick & Wonder]]></copyright><managingEditor>Brick &amp; Wonder</managingEditor><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted by Drew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.

Join us as we sit down with interdisciplinary professionals at the forefront of their fields, uncovering the paths to effective collaboration and successful entrepreneurship. 

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Join us as we sit down with interdisciplinary professionals at the forefront of their fields, uncovering the paths to effective collaboration and successful entrepreneurship. 

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We talk about how fear and regret get in the way, and that ultimately, how successful we are depends not only on the goals we set, but whether or not we act or succumb to our fears.</p><p>After interviewing the world’s leading creatives for 21 years on her podcast, Design Matters, Debbie brings a deep understanding of how to lead a creatively fulfilling life.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we are joined by Debbie Millman, a graphic designer, podcaster, and the chair and co-founder of the Masters in Branding program at the School of Visual Arts. </p><p>The episode focuses on the theme of designing your life, and Debbie’s unique framework for doing so. We talk about how fear and regret get in the way, and that ultimately, how successful we are depends not only on the goals we set, but whether or not we act or succumb to our fears.</p><p>After interviewing the world’s leading creatives for 21 years on her podcast, Design Matters, Debbie brings a deep understanding of how to lead a creatively fulfilling life.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">0827aa8e-a533-49d3-afe6-ab7f2ccba069</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/8e553f0a-4ed3-467b-a7d0-55e8f787661f/25-Episode-Artwork-S-03-EP-02.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 05:30:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/0827aa8e-a533-49d3-afe6-ab7f2ccba069.mp3" length="76297726" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>52:30</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Why Architecture Doesn’t Matter (But Should)</title><itunes:title>Why Architecture Doesn’t Matter (But Should)</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week we are kicking off season three of the podcast with the urbanist and real estate developer <a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/coby-lefkowitz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coby Lefkowitz</a>.</p><p>The conversation explores what it would take to develop new housing at scale today, why fashion commands public imagination in ways that real estate and design rarely do, and more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.maderasurfaces.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MADERA</a>, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we are kicking off season three of the podcast with the urbanist and real estate developer <a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/coby-lefkowitz/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Coby Lefkowitz</a>.</p><p>The conversation explores what it would take to develop new housing at scale today, why fashion commands public imagination in ways that real estate and design rarely do, and more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.maderasurfaces.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MADERA</a>, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">753719f0-cebc-4fcd-815e-d83b02e56be8</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/1fd535fc-18ac-4c95-a48e-51a169235a52/resized-3000px-under2MB-v2.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/753719f0-cebc-4fcd-815e-d83b02e56be8.mp3" length="69270756" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:32</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>3</podcast:season></item><item><title>Matt Berman &amp; 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the joy of working with open, supportive&nbsp;collaborators; how hospitality design demands flexing brands to meet context; and the unexpected paths that shaped their design careers.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, and&nbsp;Madera, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on the Brick &amp; Wonder podcast, our hosts sit down with two design leaders in the hospitality world: <a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/aliya-khan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Aliya Khan</strong></a>, Vice President of Global Design Strategy &amp; Product Development at <a href="https://www.marriott.com/default.mi?nst=paid&amp;cid=PAI_GLB0004YXD_GLE000D7HH_GLF000TS7E&amp;ppc=ppc&amp;pId=ustbppc&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=21365863366&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADilnicxCwqk8S5T6FWPZqDtFiRc0&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAosrJBhD0ARIsAHebCNoGMtJyS_QJNrQuOhNg3b-5m_RVqZEXGpfg4lUxsyw0M3A98bJFHkYaApIyEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marriott International</a>, and <a href="https://www.workshopapd.com/about/team/mdb/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Matt Berman</strong></a>, Founding Principal at <a href="https://www.workshopapd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Workshop/APD</a>.</p><p>Together, they explore their collaboration on the Moxy hotel in Banff, Alberta; the joy of working with open, supportive&nbsp;collaborators; how hospitality design demands flexing brands to meet context; and the unexpected paths that shaped their design careers.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, and&nbsp;Madera, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">579f0017-dbea-4776-ad5a-ace7b56dd1c3</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/be4bc407-6c14-4152-8d12-36900c0229c9/resized-episode-3000.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/579f0017-dbea-4776-ad5a-ace7b56dd1c3.mp3" length="198512566" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>01:22:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Nick Schiffer &amp; 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He and Josef are longtime collaborators, having completed five deals together to date.</p><p>This episode of Working Together is sponsored by <a href="https://www.reillyarch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reilly Architectural</a>, a custom manufacturer of windows and doors.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we were joined by Seth Weissman, founder and president of Urban Standard Capital, a real estate private equity firm focused on debt and equity investments, and Josef Goodman, founder and principal of Haussmann Development, a New York City–based residential real estate developer.</p><p>Seth shared that he aims to go on rewarding, challenging, and collaborative journeys with his clients—and to do so repeatedly with people he likes and trusts. He and Josef are longtime collaborators, having completed five deals together to date.</p><p>This episode of Working Together is sponsored by <a href="https://www.reillyarch.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reilly Architectural</a>, a custom manufacturer of windows and doors.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">43536e9d-7cc6-4ee5-bba4-ddeeb86fef90</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/d1ebedd5-9a05-4abf-808f-e4fe15e2723a/xbBaiFpg0p9577CoOlWDIQ78.jpg"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/43536e9d-7cc6-4ee5-bba4-ddeeb86fef90.mp3" length="114910091" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>47:55</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode><podcast:season>2</podcast:season></item><item><title>Brad Hargreaves &amp; Paul Stanton</title><itunes:title>Brad Hargreaves &amp; Paul Stanton</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>This week on the Working Together podcast we were joined by Brad Hargreaves, a serial entrepreneur whose latest company, Thesis Driven, publishes content and offers courses for people in or aspiring to be in real estate. 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Matt Schroeder is the co-founder and CEO of&nbsp;<a href="https://thecosine.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cosine</a>, an architectural lighting and procurement company.&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/everett-hollander/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everett Hollander</a>&nbsp;is a partner at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.billyclark.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Billy Clark Creative Management</a>, a strategy and talent advisor to creative companies in the built environment industry.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the <a href="https://brickandwonder.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Brick &amp; Wonder</a> podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted by&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/drew-lang/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Drew Lang</a>, founder of Brick &amp; Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us.</p><p>In this episode we spoke with two people who came together in a successful and enduring business consulting engagement. Matt Schroeder is the co-founder and CEO of&nbsp;<a href="https://thecosine.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Cosine</a>, an architectural lighting and procurement company.&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/everett-hollander/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everett Hollander</a>&nbsp;is a partner at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.billyclark.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Billy Clark Creative Management</a>, a strategy and talent advisor to creative companies in the built environment industry.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/the-third-win/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">62e5a2c6-77cf-49a9-8355-8412d9fe3673</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a95d16e6-41e5-470b-bbbf-558d5ce3b1ee/6UxltwlwJ9bqEci-LG4Id8GE.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/1e9b3c8b-6a73-489c-9464-7966415a978d/E03-Everett-Hollander-Matt-Schroeder-master-v3-converted.mp3" length="89555508" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>37:21</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Passport to Usonia: Two perspectives on Frank Lloyd Wright’s suburbia</title><itunes:title>A Passport to Usonia: Two perspectives on Frank Lloyd Wright’s suburbia</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode we spoke with two people whose values and objectives aligned to create a book about the&nbsp;Usonia residential community.&nbsp;Usonia was a planned community and is now a national historic district located in Mount Pleasant, New York, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.&nbsp;<a href="https://michaelbiondo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Michael Biondo</strong></a>&nbsp;is an architectural photographer who has extensively photographed the Usonia homes. Michael joined forces with&nbsp;<a href="https://gideonfinkshapiro.com/info-contact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Gideon Fink Shapiro</strong></a>, an architectural historian and writer to put together a book celebrating the design and history of this famous residential development.</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode we spoke with two people whose values and objectives aligned to create a book about the&nbsp;Usonia residential community.&nbsp;Usonia was a planned community and is now a national historic district located in Mount Pleasant, New York, designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.&nbsp;<a href="https://michaelbiondo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Michael Biondo</strong></a>&nbsp;is an architectural photographer who has extensively photographed the Usonia homes. Michael joined forces with&nbsp;<a href="https://gideonfinkshapiro.com/info-contact" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Gideon Fink Shapiro</strong></a>, an architectural historian and writer to put together a book celebrating the design and history of this famous residential development.</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/usonia-two-perspectives-on-frank-lloyd-wrights-suburbia/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">04eda097-b589-4f19-bad2-de178924d0ee</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a95d16e6-41e5-470b-bbbf-558d5ce3b1ee/6UxltwlwJ9bqEci-LG4Id8GE.png"/><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2024 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/87852d50-4d42-431d-90e6-2b628bef8900/E02-Michael-Biondo-Gideon-Fink-Shapiro-master-v4-converted.mp3" length="71432712" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>29:47</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item><item><title>A Brooklyn Collaboration: Values-Driven Business in the Built Environment</title><itunes:title>A Brooklyn Collaboration: Values-Driven Business in the Built Environment</itunes:title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Working Together we spoke with two people whose values and brands aligned in the construction of a Brooklyn condominium building&nbsp;<a href="https://butlerbk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>350 Butler Street</strong></a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/bill-caleo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Bill Caleo</strong></a>&nbsp;is a real estate developer and the founder of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thebrooklynhomecompany.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Brooklyn Home Company</strong></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/rachelle-louis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Rachelle Louis</strong></a>&nbsp;is the Luxe Business Development Lead at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jennair.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>JennAir Appliances</strong></a>.&nbsp;</p>]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Working Together we spoke with two people whose values and brands aligned in the construction of a Brooklyn condominium building&nbsp;<a href="https://butlerbk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>350 Butler Street</strong></a>.&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/bill-caleo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Bill Caleo</strong></a>&nbsp;is a real estate developer and the founder of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thebrooklynhomecompany.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Brooklyn Home Company</strong></a>, and&nbsp;<a href="https://brickandwonder.com/collective/rachelle-louis/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Rachelle Louis</strong></a>&nbsp;is the Luxe Business Development Lead at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jennair.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>JennAir Appliances</strong></a>.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><link><![CDATA[https://brickandwonder.com/bill-caleo-rachelle-louis/]]></link><guid isPermaLink="false">4f37a85f-cf52-4b51-98de-aaebf54f56b7</guid><itunes:image href="https://artwork.captivate.fm/a95d16e6-41e5-470b-bbbf-558d5ce3b1ee/6UxltwlwJ9bqEci-LG4Id8GE.png"/><pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate><enclosure url="https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/8c30cc60-cac1-427c-a2b6-376e9849dfec/E01-Bill-Rachelle-master-v5-converted.mp3" length="68167077" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:duration>28:26</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode><podcast:season>1</podcast:season></item></channel></rss>